Today, we're joined by Tony Fadell, the inventor of the iPod and co-inventor of the iPhone. Tony is the founder of Nest (the smart thermostat acquired by Google) and the New York Times best-selling author of Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making.

In this second episode, Tommy Stadlen talks to Tony about his years working alongside Steve Jobs and what he's learned about building a career, why he thinks saying "no" is the most underrated skill in product, and why giving credit away is the thing most leaders get wrong.

He speaks about:

what Steve Jobs was truly great at, and the one thing he was bad at
the two types of assholes, and how to tell ego from mission
why giving credit to your team is the most joyful part of leading
hustling his way into General Magic with seven months of letters and cold calls
chasing heroes instead of brands early in your career
why the best mentors (like Bill Campbell) know people, not tech
the General Magic crash at 25 that taught him to stay grounded

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Music credits: Bubble King written and produced by Cameron McLain and Stevan Cablayan aka Vector_XING.

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