Giggling about awards, aging, and big announcements

Summary

Giggly Squad Podcast Summary

Episode: Giggling about awards, aging, and big announcements
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: March 20, 2026

---

Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo dive into the chaos of winning Podcast of the Year, recount the anxiety-inducing airport journey that nearly derailed their trip, and reflect on the realities of growing older—complete with a frank discussion about Botox and self-image. The duo also shares Paige’s surreal experience collaborating with Kourtney Kardashian and Lemme, and offers listeners a glimpse behind the scenes of their big award win. Characteristically, they roast themselves, joke about the industry, and offer heartfelt (and hilarious) wisdom about aging, beauty, and friendship.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Award Show Chaos: The Journey to Podcast of the Year

(01:13–15:36)

• Belief and Manifestation:

  • Paige opens by announcing their win:
    “Coming to you Live is your 2026 podcast of the Year winners.” (03:13)
  • Hannah’s skepticism and Paige’s faith play off each other:
    • Hannah: “I don’t believe in myself.” (02:20)
    • Paige: “I felt it in my gut when we walked in there. I was like, oh, we won.” (02:47)

• Airport Struggles & Anxiety:

  • The morning of their flight was pure chaos:
    • Hannah describes the panic: “When I tell you the lines were out the door…I was like, this is some God shit.” (04:24–05:13)
    • Paige is the planner; Hannah is too chill: “You were right. Like, the whole time, you were right.” (14:30)
  • “It didn’t matter how many people I skipped—no one was moving.” (09:51 - Hannah)

• Gigglers in the Wild:

  • Hannah runs into fans even in her panic: “I see a giggler…she’s like, hey, I just want to say like, I love your pod. And I’m like, hey, Paige is gonna kill me.” (07:36)

• Rom-com Moments:

  • Paige: “Should I get off?…Like, I wasn’t doing that without you.” (12:30)
  • Hannah barely makes her flight amidst madness, then loses her first-class seat and ends up in coach, “cuddling” with a stranger named Andre.
    “For sleeping in and being a little bitch is what I deserve.” (15:31)

• Arrival & Survival:

  • Still in airport clothes, they rush to a business meeting, where Hannah (“I want an omelet, a water, an iced latte, and a side of sausage.” [16:30]) gets the wrong order—and Paige shares her breakfast sandwich.
  • “We finish each other’s sandwiches.” (20:07 - Hannah).
  • “You guys have really good podcast chemistry.” (19:15 - Executive at meeting)

---

2. Awards Night: Social Battery Woes & Gigglers’ Victory

(24:01–31:09)

• Pre-Event Nerves Turn Social Butterfly

  • Hannah: “I was like, look, I’m not really in a social mood…by the way, I’m nervous. I can’t do this.” (24:09–24:39)
  • Paige observes: “We get there, Hannah is now the mayor of the event.” (24:43)

• Presenting & Accepting the Award

  • On going off-script:
    Paige: “I’m like, no—read the teleprompter!” (27:13)
  • Award hand-off fumble:
    Hannah: “I went to give it to you…then I pulled it back.” (29:16) Paige: “You literally faked me out on stage.” (29:23)

• Gratitude for a Small Team

  • “Our team is literally me, you, and Grace.” (30:19 - Hannah)
  • “The gigglers make this podcast. All of you won this award.” (30:49 - Hannah/Paige)

---

3. Big Announcements: Paige’s Lemme & Kourtney Kardashian Day

(32:24–39:09)

• Manifesting Dreams
  • Paige gushes about working with the Kardashians:
    “Love them… There is nothing they could do to make me hate them. I’m obsessed.” (32:43)
  • The day she filmed for Lemme Sleep with Kourtney Kardashian:
    “It was my favorite day of my entire life.” (32:28) “For anyone who says that Kourtney doesn’t work, she is one of the most efficient workers I’ve ever met in my life…she showed up, she was ready, professional.” (36:26)
  • On the surreal experience:
    “No, she turns to me…and I go, second base. You have a really relaxing presence. And she’s like, thank you so much.” (37:32)
  • Reflections on celebrity kindness and working environments.

---

4. Aging, Botox & Self-Image Real Talk

(44:25–54:54)

• Paige’s Botox Journey

  • “I don’t think I’ll ever get Botox ever again for the rest of my life.” (44:25)
  • “I think it made me uglier, honestly.” (45:33)
  • On the pressure and visibility:
    “I feel like I am going to be back to my normal face by the summer, and I don’t think anyone could ever convince me to go back.” (46:36)
  • “You might see lines on your face, which I personally love my lines because, one, they get me more respect in the boardroom…” (47:18 - Hannah)

• Aging Is Not “Uglier”

  • “Aging is growth, is knowledge.” (48:03 - Hannah)
  • “I don’t want to look like I’m that young because I’ve been through too much to get disrespected.” (47:41 - Paige)
  • “Let me hate myself in peace.” (53:36 – Paige)

• Wisdom for Listeners

  • “Stop looking in the mirror so much, girls…you’re not seeing—it is dysmorphia at some point.” (52:28 – Hannah)

• General Beauty Chat

  • Warnings about other procedures (filler) and the importance of not being swayed by trends or influencer pressure.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you want me to look pretty, I will be 10 minutes late. If you want me to look ugly, I'll be early. Pick your poison."
  – Hannah (01:34)

• "You literally faked me out on stage."
  – Paige (29:23)

• "We finish each other's sandwiches."
  – Hannah (20:07)

• "I felt it in my gut when we walked in there. I was like, oh, we won."
  – Paige (02:47)

• "For sleeping in and being a little bitch is what I deserve."
  – Hannah (15:31)

• "I don't want to look like I'm that young…I've been through too much to get disrespected."
  – Paige (47:41)

• "Let me hate myself in peace."
  – Paige (53:36)

---

Useful Timestamps for Key Segments

• Day-of-the-Awards Chaos / Airport Saga: 03:13–15:36
• The Breakfast Meeting / Sandwich Moment: 15:35–20:07
• Awards Night & Aftermath: 24:01–31:09
• Paige’s Kourtney Kardashian/Lemme Collab: 32:24–39:09
• Botox, Beauty, and Aging Segment: 44:25–54:54

---

Episode Tone

Irreverent, self-deprecating, energetic, full of pop-culture references and inside jokes. Always honest—sometimes brutally—about insecurities, beauty standards, and the realities of adulting, fame, and friendship.

---

Summary

This episode captures what makes Giggly Squad beloved: honest chaos, unfiltered friendship, and advice grounded in real experience and humor. Hannah and Paige’s award win is just the jumping-off point as they traverse industry drama, beauty truths, and the quirks of self-acceptance—with memorable stories, wild detours, and plenty of laughs along the way.

---

For more behind-the-scenes, check out the Buffalo Wild Wings ad and be ready for more adventures next episode.

Transcript

[Sponsor Voice]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to progressive and save hundreds. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states or situations.

[Adam Grant]

Hey, this is Adam Grant, host of ted's podcast, Rethinking with Adam Grant. Have you heard of Bill? It's the intelligent finance platform that uses AI to help you avoid costly errors and optimize cash flow. In fact, Bill reports that over 90 of the top 100 US accounting firms trust them to manage, move and maximize money. Proven by over a trillion dollars in secure transactions. Eliminate the friction and start scaling with the proven choice. Visit bill.compenven to talk with an expert about automating your business finances and get a $250 gift card as the thank you. That's bill.com proven terms and conditions apply. See offer page for details.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

Sup, Gigglers?

[Paige]

Gary, fix your WI Fi.

[Hannah]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

[Paige]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah]

What's up, my glossy Giglas? Oh, I don't know.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

I don't know. I'm having fun.

[Paige]

You look so gorgeous today. And I came in being like, it's Friday. I'm going to be like in sweats. I'm doing like no makeup.

[Hannah]

I'm wearing a see through poncho.

[Paige]

I know. You sat down and I was like, oh.

[Hannah]

I was also 10 minutes late. And I said, look, if you want me to look pretty, I will be 10 minutes late. If you want me look ugly, I'll be early. Pick your poison.

[Paige]

You know what I used for the first time? You know that it's like this makeup. It's called Ella Roses. I used a little bit of their, like, blush and eyebrow gel.

[Hannah]

Obsessed.

[Paige]

They were just like, it's a Friday morning. I'm not trying to do too much.

[Hannah]

I know. I think less is more.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Especially with your cheekbones.

[Paige]

And it was like rainy and cold. And I was like, gotta go.

[Hannah]

Should we get into it?

[Paige]

Enough of the niceties.

[Hannah]

Should we just start with like our

[Paige]

day, our raw, real emotions?

[Hannah]

Oh, sorry.

[Paige]

Coming to you Live is your 2026 podcast of the Year winners. Which.

[Hannah]

So I was, are we sure we're not gonna win? And she was like, just like, believe in ourselves. And I'm like, I don't believe in myself.

[Paige]

I didn't just like, buy a Ferragamo dress to not fudgeing win.

[Hannah]

They started Announcing everyone who's nominated. And I kept just. They'd be like, the daily. And I'd look at Paige and be like, we're not being at the daily. And she's just like, why are you being so negative? I'm like, because I don't want you to get upset when we lose and then, like, have a little tantrum and then I have to calm you down in the car.

[Paige]

No. I, like, felt it in my gut. You know, I'm a witch.

[Hannah]

You are.

[Paige]

So I felt it in my gut when we walked in there. I was like, oh, we won. And it's so giggly coded that the gigglers were like, didn't even know.

[Hannah]

They go. None of us voted. We don't even know what happened.

[Paige]

None of my business. Didn't come across my desk. None of my business.

[Hannah]

But let's rewind to how we got to that moment. Let's. Because obviously it wasn't smooth, it wasn't easy.

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

And I'm talking about that actual day, not the full journey.

[Paige]

So we have a flight.

[Hannah]

Paige and I decide we're going to Austin for the day.

[Paige]

Just for the day.

[Hannah]

I knew it was going to be a problem when you texted me asking when you should leave. And I was like, that's. You should never leave.

[Paige]

I'm like, looking for an adult in the room. And I'm like, I'll text Hannah. When should I. When should we leave for the airport?

[Hannah]

And we leave very close. We live. We live very close to the airport. Also, I fly, so six times a week.

[Paige]

Our flight was at 7:20. We're boarding at 6:40.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

I leave at 5:30.

[Hannah]

I. Yes.

[Paige]

Hannah's like, I'm going to leave at 5:50. I'm like, okay. Something in my gut is.

[Hannah]

So I woke up at 5:50.

[Paige]

I'm FaceTiming her in the line. I'm like, it's not good here. It's not good.

[Hannah]

And I'm in the elevator. So I'm like, oh, can't hear you. I'm in the elevator. Hang up on her. And you text me. And you're like, it's really bad. Which reminds me of my mom who, like, has to be at the airport four hours early. And I'm like, you silly mom. You don't have to be there. So I'm like, I'm glad that Paige is being, like, prepared. One of us has to. But, like, I live 10 minutes from the airport. I'll see you soon, right? It's before 7:00am Right? Like, there's Nothing.

[Paige]

What could happen?

[Hannah]

What could possibly happen? So first of all, we, you know when you get to the place and, like, there's so many cars that you can't get out of the Uber. And also, I didn't have an Uber driver that was, like, on my team. Like, he was very relaxed.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, it was like there were openings. He wasn't taking it.

[Paige]

And I was like, you're the first flight out. You're fine.

[Hannah]

So then I. We're not even parked. And I'm like, sir, I need to get out. And he was like, you can't get out here. And I'm like, yeah. Again, like, watch me. So I got out. I was like, five stars. Thank you. Get to the front. Now, when I tell you the lines were out the door, I fly a lot. Instead of me just being like, let's go in a line, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna outsmart this. I'm gonna strategize. But I look down and I don't have my pre check on, which is like, boarding pass. That was like some. Some God shit. Like, they were like, actually, Mercury is in retrograde.

[Paige]

Oh, I know. No, I felt it.

[Hannah]

So I decide, okay, I can wait in line to try to get them to put pre check on it. So I start with that. Also, I went to the kiosk and the kiosk said, go yourself. Yeah. You ever try a kiosk? And they're like, no. Has a kiosk ever worked for anyone?

[Paige]

I get that TSA is having a moment. They're having a problem. I'm not even coming to TSA's fault.

[Hannah]

This is the government's fault.

[Paige]

The people that work, though, for the airline, that some of the rudest, some of the meanest people I've actually met.

[Hannah]

And by the way, when I'm at an airport, it's fight or flight. Like, I'm not thinking logically. I'm. So you're texting me and you're like, I just got through. Are you okay? And I'm like, I'm locked in. I'm figuring this out. So the kiosk doesn't work. I'm like, I'm going to wait, get pre check. And then the pre check line is long, though, but. But I'm like, this is my only way, right? So I'm waiting in line. It's not moving. So I'm like, okay. Then I go to the pre check line and I ask the guy, like, can I go here? And he goes, no, you don't have Pre check. And I'm like. And he's like, shut up, bitch. And I'm like. So then I'm like, okay, I overhear someone saying that there's clear somewhere. And I'm like, where's clear? And they're like, Door 752. And I'm like, I'm going. So I'm walking down.

[Paige]

I feel like clear is the biggest scale scam ever.

[Hannah]

Shout out to clear. Save my life though.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

But anyway.

[Paige]

But now that everyone has it, the line is almost like, yeah, but I

[Hannah]

feel like they've gotten better where now? Anyway, long story short, I finally see Clear now, mind you, Paige is texting me. She goes, how's it going? And I realized, Paige, I've been here for 30 minutes. I'm still not even in a line.

[Paige]

You've just been standing in the airport for 25 minutes. What should we do? Because that decision is make or break of if you're getting on the plane.

[Hannah]

If I committed to the wrong line, I'm fucked. So instead I was just walking in a little circle, fighting with myself.

[Paige]

I get so.

[Hannah]

And you're texting me, like, are we doing well?

[Paige]

Any update?

[Hannah]

I'm like, I'm actually farther than I was when I first got to the airport.

[Paige]

Like, I'm actually back in the Uber and I'm going home.

[Hannah]

Like, I'm not now, mind you, at this point it's 6:40. So we're boarding, we're boarding and I'm still haven't gotten on a line. I'm trying to find where this clear line is. I go, I find the clear line and they're like, this is pre check. And I'm like, I. I do it pre check. And they're like, we don't care. So I find the non clear pre check. It's like 6:50 by now. And I see a giggler. And she's like, hey, I just want to say like, I love your pod. And I'm like, hey, Paige is gonna kill me.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like she's on this flight alone. I can't let her fly alone. Also, like, my flight's boarding. And they're like, when? I'm like 15 minutes ago.

[Paige]

And then she's like, I'm sitting on the plane asking the flight attendant like, hey, like, do you think you guys are like running on time? Or like, what's your vibe for shutting the door? And she looks at me and she goes. And she's like, what? And I'm like, my friend, she's coming. And she looks me Dead in the face and goes, we're not holding the plane for your friend. And I'm like, oh, this is my thing.

[Hannah]

You're very powerful. So I was like, paige, work your fucking magic.

[Paige]

You get that plane to stop.

[Hannah]

Tell them there's a VIP who wakes, who sleeps too late. But by the way, you're, like, comfortable.

[Paige]

Mind you, they were late shutting the

[Hannah]

door and they did wait for my friend.

[Paige]

So.

[Hannah]

So by the way, I finally get to. I get to the right line and now I'm like, sorry, I'm boarding. And people. But I look around me, I'm like, I feel like everyone's missing their flight. So then I kind of. You can't just skip people. Everyone's missing their flight. But then I asked one person, I was like, hey, I'm boarding. They're like, what time's you boarding? And I was like, 30 minutes ago.

[Paige]

It was a great day for people on standby.

[Hannah]

Yes. Yes.

[Paige]

Because so many people, I feel like, missed their flights. And then those people got on.

[Hannah]

Yeah. And as you know, like, we don't always feel good about men. But there was like a 38 year old man and he was like, at the front of the clear line. And, like, I really don't like cutting the line, but this was like, this is an emergency. This was your life on the line too.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

It didn't just affect me.

[Paige]

No. I'm sitting on the plane thinking, like, okay, I'm not going to Texas. By my goddamn.

[Hannah]

You literally, like, should I get off?

[Paige]

I'm like, if you're not making it, I'm getting off the plane.

[Hannah]

So I'm still. I'm. It's 15 minutes, we've already been boarding. So I go to this guy and I go, hey, do you mind if I cut in front of you? And he goes, you, of course, hate when that happens. And I go, I don't know where this came from. I go, thank you, my king. I said, thank you, my king. Like, what is I become a girl?

[Paige]

Men are better than women. We need you guys.

[Hannah]

I go, thanks for inventing airports. And then a giggler was like, can I get a photo? I'm like, yeah, I'm missing my flight. And we take the photo and she's like, that's so Hannah coded. I skipped this guy. And I'm like, great. Still the lines not moving. Like, TSA is not functioning right now. And it's not their fault because people are not getting paid. So when I tell you, like, it didn't matter how many people I skipped no one was moving. Yeah, who cares if you're in the

[Paige]

front if the front stop anywhere.

[Hannah]

So then finally I put my stuff in the security, the baggage, whatever, and it gets through and I'm with another guy and. But it's not going through. And some guy goes, did you leave your laptop in the bag? And this is for the other guy. And he's like, no, no one told me. And then I'm like, oh, you left

[Paige]

your laptop in the back?

[Hannah]

Yeah, cuz I'm a TSA pre princess.

[Paige]

Oh, so you didn't. Did your bag have to go back through?

[Hannah]

So his bag has to go back through. And I know that's gonna happen to mine. And I'm like, I don't have this kind of time. Yeah, like Paige is literally scared and alone and fighting with the thing on TikTok.

[Paige]

And like I was like, sure, I'll have a glass of champagne. And then I said, thank you so much. I'm.

[Hannah]

I'm d. Oh, wait. One of the guys was like, ma', am, you have to stand back a little. You know when they get weird with like where your foot is? And I just look at him and I go, My flight's boarding 30 minutes ago. And he's like, oh, damn. Finally my bag comes and I become like a 4 year old. I'm like, I'm sorry, my laptop is there. I just, I'm gonna miss my flight. And they're like, you dumb bitch, we don't care. We're not getting paid. And I'm like, valid, valid. This is all happening. I'm not telling you these details because I don't want to stress you out further. When I tell you they put it back in. They. They took the laptop out. I grabbed my laptop, grabbed my backpack, just holding my laptop bare. I'm raw, dogging my laptop. And we're back at it again, running through the airport.

[Paige]

We were, and I, I texted you and I was like, and I don't want to make matters worse, but we're the last possible gate. We're like 55 with this airport run.

[Hannah]

I put my phone in my pocket, cuz we're 30 minutes past boarding now. Like, that's. The door's closed. Yeah. But I'm like, we're in Texas. In Texas. But I'm giving it like a last ditch and I go, I don't even want to know that I failed yet. I'm just going to try. And I'm thinking, knees up. I'm like, knees up. Knees up. I get so tired. I Have to stop, catch my breath. That is the most embarrassing when people see you stop and then start again. I'm running, I'm running, I'm running, I'm running. It goes. It felt like I was running for two hours.

[Paige]

Even when I was walking there, I stopped. It's a far gate. It's long.

[Hannah]

Now we're 35 minutes past boarding, you guys. Like, I'm not making this flight. I'm texting Grace and she's like, there's no other flight. Flights to Austin. And I'm like, damn, I bought this, like, crazy dress. I'm not gonna be able to wear it. Paige is gonna be there all scared, alone.

[Paige]

No, I would have gotten. I would have landed in Austin and gotten on another flight back home. Like, I wasn't doing that without you.

[Hannah]

But you also were like, should I get off this plane? And it gave a really romantic rom com moment. Like, should I get off the plane and just be with you?

[Paige]

And then Grace was also like, my flight's delayed. And I was like, I'm not being the representative. That would happen to you by myself.

[Hannah]

You're like, I'm not accepting Podcasts of the Year board alone.

[Paige]

Then.

[Hannah]

Then I get to the gate, everything's like, closed. And I'm like, can I get on? And the guy's like, yes. So in that moment, I'm like, this. This was out of my power. Like, that was. That was Jesus Christ. Like, that was God, I think, because I accepted my fate, I was like, I've missed my flight. That the universe was like, now we'll give it to you because you're not fighting us. And the government lockdown.

[Paige]

When get on. The flight attendant looked at me and was like, is that your friend? I was like, never seen her before?

[Hannah]

No.

[Paige]

But the girl sweating and panting. Nope.

[Hannah]

Also, by the way, I have. I'm not going to brag. I'm going to brag. I'm a diamond medallion. Yeah, okay, give me some. I'm a diamond. Like, they go, thank you for being a diamond medallion.

[Paige]

Like, wherever I respect. On my name, wherever I go, I

[Hannah]

say, say, thank you for being a diamond medallion. They say, and I say, thank you. So I get upgrades a lot. And I. I had a. I was sitting in 2A.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I get there and they're like, oof, we have a problem. And immediately I'm like, I'm not going to make the flight. And they go, we gave your seat to someone else. And I was like, at this point, I don't give a fuck. Put Me in the back. And he's like, you are in the back. You're in.

[Paige]

See, like, in that situation, it feels like they should have switched you guys.

[Hannah]

Yeah. I'm thinking it's because I wasn't even past security maybe when they needed. I don't know. And I'm just like, as long as

[Paige]

I deal with a lot. Right now, they're dealing with a lot.

[Hannah]

So I walk in, and, yeah, you're sitting there, and you don't even make eye contact with me. You're like, I can't with you.

[Paige]

Well, because I knew in the morning. I was like, no, I think we should leave a little bit earlier when

[Hannah]

I tell you I'm so sorry. And you're right.

[Paige]

Thank you. Oh, my gosh. Thank you.

[Hannah]

You're right. Like, the whole time, you were right.

[Paige]

My favorite part of that whole day, though, was then we landed in Austin. We had to immediately go because we were late leaving. We had to immediately go to a meeting. Airport clothes. Didn't have time to change. We've got luggage. We're starving. We where like, also, it's freezing.

[Hannah]

I was seat 20 next to the two biggest men, and the guy was actually sitting in my seat. The. Because I got the window seat, and there was an empty seat in the middle, and the other guy was in the aisle. So I was like, sorry, bro, you got to move. I'm sitting in the window seat. I shouldn't even fucking be here right now.

[Paige]

Yeah. And did he give it to you?

[Hannah]

He gave it to me, but, like, begrudgingly. And then he's also wearing a leather jacket, so, like, it makes it worse that your leather jacket. Your big shoulder leather jacket is, like, in my neck. And then, of course, he falls asleep

[Paige]

on your shoulder, snoring.

[Hannah]

But also in that moment, I said, this is what I deserve.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

For sleeping in and being a little bitch is what I deserve. So then me and him are cuddling.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I was like, get in here. At one point, I leaned forward, and he just, like, fell behind me. And I was like, I just.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

Me.

[Hannah]

And he's on my lap. I was sitting on his lap, and we had a fun. Kiki. Yeah, his name was Andre. But we. We land.

[Paige]

We land. We go to our meeting straight from. And, like, serious meeting.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

Like, people, like, people were contacting us

[Paige]

prior to this meeting being like, hey, do you want to, like, go over anything? Should we prep? And we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we got it.

[Hannah]

There were executives there.

[Paige]

We're sitting there, and we're like, we're going to order food because we're starving. And mind you, it's like a. It's like 11:30. It's like brunch time.

[Hannah]

And brunch is a whole different kind of order. You don't just order a sandwich.

[Paige]

Like, I actually got a baguette for the table, and no one was.

[Hannah]

No one else was eating but me and you.

[Paige]

But it was for us. I mean, they had jam on the side. Like, I'm not just seeing baguette and jam on a menu and saying, no, thank you. Like, that's rude.

[Hannah]

And I ordered. I said, I want an omelette, I want a water. I want iced latte with vanilla and oatmeal drinks, and I want orange juice and. And a side of sausage. Now, the waiter.

[Paige]

Sometimes waiters do this thing where they're like, I've been a waiter for so long, you tell me your order, I'm memorizing it.

[Hannah]

Or they go, let's see what I remember.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I'm like, I don't want to play

[Paige]

whenever they say, I'm like, I didn't sign up to test your memory.

[Hannah]

I don't want to play Russian roulette.

[Paige]

Yeah. I'm just trying to order breakfast.

[Hannah]

The guy didn't write it down. And I looked at him, I said, this is going to be an order.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And he was like, he's like, okay, let me know if I get anything wrong. I'm like, no, that's not my job.

[Paige]

So Hannah gets the omelette, I get the breakfast sandwich. They're bringing over our. I spot the waiter bringing Hannah's over, and in my head, I'm like, that's not what she ordered. But we're in the middle of this meeting and she,

[Hannah]

okay, there's five executives talking, like, serious stuff about, like, the art of podcasting. As they put our food down. The guy brought bread with, like, tons. It was a salad, you know, I didn't order that with just one hard boiled egg with, like, curry on it. So it comes down and immediately this guy's talk. The executive's talking to me. I'm seeing colors, like, I don't know what's going on.

[Paige]

You're furious. I'm, like, picking up my breakfast sandwich so daintily. I'm taking a bite. I'm looking over at Hannah.

[Hannah]

She's aghast now, gigglers. In that moment, would you tell the executive to stop talking? So in front of everyone, you could say, this isn't what I ordered. I'm not a fucking Monster. Also, I'm lucky to be there. I barely made it that morning, so I decided to suck it up. And I'm slowly eating these, like, gross leaves of fucking, like, arugula. And then for brunch. Who wants arugula for brunch? And the guy's like, oh, that looks really good.

[Paige]

Everyone was like, oh, my God, I'm gonna get that next time. And in my head, I'm like, she fucking hates it. Then. Then I'm done eating. Like, I kind of, like, push my plate forward a little, like, okay. Like, I'm finished with this. We're still talking in the meeting. Hannah's sitting, like, directly next to me.

[Hannah]

Very serious meeting, by the way.

[Paige]

I just feel her elbow. I feel her elbow, like, brush up against me, and I, like, look over at her in the corner of my eye because this man is speaking to us.

[Hannah]

Eyes locked.

[Paige]

And I look over in the corner of my eyes. She looks at me, and she. Then she looks at my breakfast. She looks at my breakfast sandwich, and I know she's asking me if she can eat the rest of it. And so I don't say anything, and I just move my.

[Hannah]

Like, you touch the plate slightly, and

[Paige]

I push it over to her. And then she starts eating it. And the executive goes, oh, so you guys are close.

[Hannah]

He goes, did you just ask her to eat her sandwich and then start eating it? And I was like, yep, but with no words. No words. And then I swear to God, he goes, you guys have really good podcast chemistry. And I was like, and that's just another reason Giggly squad is working. Also, by the way, I was talking throughout this whole thing. I was like, yeah. And then the logistics of.

[Paige]

But we had a full conversation. You were like, the waiter didn't write it down. I'm pissed. I knew he was gonna do this. He up my order. I. We had that full conversation while we were sitting there.

[Hannah]

Also, like, if you invite us to a breakfast meeting, we're getting full girl brunch. Yeah.

[Paige]

And nobody else ate.

[Hannah]

No one else ate. And they were just watching me, like, have a fight with the food. He didn't have to call us out. That was funny, though. Also, we finish each other's sandwiches.

[Paige]

Nothing is worse than getting sick at a very inconvenient time. That's why you need wisp.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

It's a leading telehealth provider in the US for women and their partners. Through discreet online care, WISP supports women's health at every stage of life, from birth control and fertility to menopause. STI testing and beyond. You know I'm prone to a UTI and that's why we have been partnering with Wisp for a while and we trust their products. I recently ordered their whole body deodorant and balancing wash which actually is amazing and the PH balancing wipes. Not enough people talk about the importance of your PH balance so I've been so excited to try these. You can go to hellowisp.com to explore your care options and check out with a prescription over the counter or testing product you need if needed for a prescription. A licensed medical provider will follow up the same day by phone or secure private chat to ensure you receive safe and effective care. And I'm so busy randomly all the time. So WISP is perfect because you're able to easily and quickly connect with a provider to get the meds you need and there's nothing worse than waking up in the morning feeling like you're getting sick, knowing you have a full day. The checkout process was easy and straightforward. Wisp provides options for discreet delivery to your home for free in all 50 states or having a prescription sent to your local pharmacy to pick up within three hours or less. Try Wisp for yourself and see how they're changing the game. For access to Women's Health, take 15% off your first order with code GIGGLY [e-mail] that's hello wisp.com Prescription products require a consultation with a healthcare provider and medications are available if medically appropriate. Must be 18 or older. Restrictions apply. See website for full details. Today's episode is sponsored by Victoria's Secret, the iconic brand behind the world's most comfortable bras. And can we talk about the goddess effect for a second? Because some days I wake up feeling like a gremlin and then I put on the right bra and suddenly I'm texting people back. I'm standing taller, I have opinions and that's power. I've been wearing the Dream Angels Wicked bra from Victoria's Secret and first of all we need to discuss. It's one of their best selling bras. It has thousands of five star reviews and now I get why. The design is actually genius. It has this innovative sling that gives you lift without padding so you're supported but it feels light and comfortable. We love engineering, we love a thoughtful queen and the lace, the embroidery, the new colors. It's romantic, it's confident, it's giving main character who has their life together. Even if you absolutely do not enter your goddess era with a bra that feels as amazing as it looks. Visit a store or go to Victoria's Secret.com today.

[Sponsor Voice]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever think about switching your insurance companies to see if you could save some cash? Progressive makes it easy. Just drop in some details about yourself and see if you're eligible to save money when you bundle your home and auto policies. The process only takes minutes and it could mean hundreds more in your pocket. Visit progressive.com after this episode to see if you could save Progressive Casualty Insurance company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states.

[Adam Grant]

Hey, this is Adam Grant, host of ted's podcast, Rethinking with Adam Grant. Let me share with you why smart finance leaders turn to Bill. They know that clarity isn't just helpful, it's strategic. As the intelligent finance platform, Bill uses AI to automate the busy work for nearly half a million businesses so they can focus on intentional growth, eliminate the friction and start scaling with the proven choice. Visit bill.com proven to talk with an expert about automating your business finances and get a $250 gift card as a thank you. That's bill.com proven terms and conditions apply. See offer page for details.

[Paige]

So then we go to the hotel, we get ready, we do glam, we take pictures, we go to the awards.

[Hannah]

And by the way, I'm like, I'm tired. Even though I slept late, I still only got four hours of sleep. You know, I hate glam. And I tell you, I was like, look, I'm like, not really in a social mood. Like, let's just, we can do this.

[Paige]

You literally said to both of our assistants, Grace and Josephine, just like the perfect people. Hannah goes, hey, you guys, sit on either side of me so that I don't really have to socialize a lot tonight. And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, mm, Mm.

[Hannah]

I'm like, I'm getting in my head. Like, I'm nervous. I don't have it in me. I'm really tired. I can't do this.

[Paige]

We get there, Hannah is now the mayor of the event. Okay? She's going over to people's tables. She's checking on them. She's asking if they need anything. She's taking selfies with everyone. She's like, I'm sitting at the chairs, just being like. She's going to walk over and say, why did you guys let me do this? And you literally, you walk over and you're like, guys, I'm socializing so much. Then the awards Start. Okay, the awards start. We present an award to the basement yard. They win, which we love their wives too. It's our turn. Like, our. Is the last award we win. Amazing. We have a flight to catch after.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

Okay.

[Paige]

We have to leave immediately and go to the airport. I'm looking around and, like, where the is Hannah? She's in the middle of, like, a mosh pit. Like, she's. Honestly. She's, like, turning. She's talking so many people. You're, like, turning. Yep. One second. Let me just finish over here. I've now put myself just behind a curtain, just a random curtain that I've found. I'm like, I'm just gonna stand behind here. I text Grace, and I'm like, we have to go.

[Hannah]

To me is like, paige is really upset. She. And I'm like, fazes is so over me in this moment.

[Paige]

No, because you say one thing, you do another.

[Hannah]

Well, what I realized is I. When I can either be 150 or nothing.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I do get social anxiety where I'm like, I don't want to have to turn it on. Like, I don't want to have to be that girl.

[Paige]

But once it's on, it's on.

[Hannah]

It's on. I can't.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I can't scale back on her. And look, Eliza Schlesinger was there, and I was catching up with her. We said the basement yard. We were just, like, meeting random people in the podcast space. And next thing you know, I'm like, I love socializing. This is where I shine. Like.

[Paige]

But, okay, Grace, like, found me in the corner. I'm just, like, covering my face with a napkin. I'm like, we have to go.

[Hannah]

You were like, I committed to the plan. I didn't talk to anyone. So then when we first were announcing the first award, by the way, we're standing backstage, and it was a. It gave you, like, a little moment of, like, when we were on tour, and you were like, I'm a little bit nervous to go on stage. And I just look at you, and I go, by the way, I'm not reading the teleprompter.

[Paige]

And no, she turns to me, and she goes, hey, you know that, like, the lines that I wrote and, like, gave to the guy to put in the teleprompter? Yeah. I actually just decided I don't like any of it. I'm like, no, no, read the teleprompter. She's like, yeah, I'm not gonna.

[Hannah]

If I go off script, just go with it. And you're like, can you. Just saying, not the time to go off script. I'm feeling a creative urge, just, like, express myself in a different way.

[Paige]

So we're out there off script. Completely off script.

[Hannah]

No, but before we go out there.

[Paige]

Oh, yeah, the stage manager, he goes, okay, you guys are going to walk out there. Paige, you're on the left. Hannah, you're on the right. Hand goes, quick question. Is that changeable? Can I go on the right? And he goes. And he's, like, looking at his papers, and he's like, absolutely. Specifically that you must be on the right and Paige must be on the left. And you're like, okay, I'm going to need to talk to your boss real quick.

[Hannah]

I said, who are you working for? Because that's crazy that you're like, the only thing you have to do is Hannah needs to stand on her monster side. And the guy starts laughing. And I go, my enemy's out to get me. Who's your boss? Let me talk to them. And he's dying laughing, and he thinks it's funny. And I'm like, when does this matter where we stand? Yeah. And, you know, the only thing I care about is not wearing my hair in a ponytail.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And not standing on the right side.

[Paige]

You're extremely passionate about not wearing your

[Hannah]

hair and anything else. I'm very laid back about.

[Paige]

Totally.

[Hannah]

Arguably, very chill. Except I don't like reading teleprompters.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

Right.

[Paige]

Which, See, I love a teleprompter.

[Hannah]

Yes. Because you like organization preparation.

[Paige]

Yes. I'm like, there it is. I don't have to think about it.

[Hannah]

Like, showing that you can read.

[Paige]

Yes. It is always a plus.

[Hannah]

It is a plus. And you're like, see all my haters, including me? So the guy's, like, laughing, and I'm like, it's not funny.

[Paige]

Like, I really like.

[Hannah]

Sir.

[Paige]

I feel like I'm not actually being a comedian right now. Like, I'm.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

I'm.

[Hannah]

I literally looked him like, what would happen if I just, like, went on the left side and he's, like, laughing? I'm like, well, I'm not.

[Paige]

I think it was the lower thirds when you were streaming it, but I also.

[Hannah]

Yeah. So we go out. But, yeah, I was going rogue out there, and I blacked out. I don't know what I said. And I do have to say they posted our speech, and it was really, really fun and cute. But I want to announce. I don't think anyone called it out, but there's a moment where, like, they gave me the award And I went to give it to you when you were speaking. Yeah. And then I pulled it back.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And afterwards you're like, what was that? It was really heavy. And as I was giving it to you, I was like, she's going to like.

[Paige]

You literally faked me out on stage.

[Hannah]

I was like, no.

[Paige]

I'm like, actually, this is my award.

[Hannah]

No. But it looked like I literally was like, faking funny.

[Paige]

Too slow. Couldn't take it.

[Hannah]

But it was like very heavy.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I was like, as the man won, I was like, I'll hold it while you can, like, speak.

[Paige]

When we were done presenting, we were like going back out to sit for the rest of the awards and we saw both of our assistants sitting on the couch and we just were like, how cute are they?

[Hannah]

How adorable.

[Paige]

Just.

[Hannah]

So shout out Grace and Josephine for literally being the best.

[Paige]

We had the best, best time. Then we all flew home together and we just had like the best time yapping.

[Hannah]

I also think it is crazy. There are like some podcasts that have like huge productions which, yeah, people are going on stage with like seven people behind them.

[Paige]

Everyone was thinking, a lot of people. I was like, wait, who are these people? What did they do?

[Hannah]

But I just have to say, our team is literally me, you and Grace.

[Paige]

Yeah. Or Giggly Squad.

[Hannah]

Grace hasn't slept in years, but we spoil her, I promise. And I forced her to get a cat.

[Paige]

We got her quesadillas on our way home.

[Hannah]

But shout out to, like such a small operation. I think if you try to make your operation too big, sometimes not to talk business, but like, you can lose quality control.

[Paige]

Yeah. And too many cooks in the kitchen.

[Hannah]

Too many cooks in the kitchen. And also people who might not, like, care.

[Paige]

Giggly is a well oiled machine.

[Hannah]

It's a well oiled, small, simple machine. But we have to say it's all the Gigglers. Yeah, like the, the gigglers make this podcast. All of you won this award. Yeah, like, this is for you guys being the funniest, smartest, hottest, most beautiful girls and gays in the world.

[Paige]

And I actually said that about you guys in the meeting.

[Hannah]

Oh, I did.

[Paige]

Well, I, I like, you're like, you're not gonna believe it, but like, they're all beginners, have jobs. No, you're like, they have professions, which

[Hannah]

I have to make a quick edit. Obviously. I messed up something last week again about the Smithsonian. Also, people have to talk about when you have nubby fingers, it really is harder to text. And also just us. Do you know when you flush A bathroom. And they have those fancy ones that are like a circle. You press down the circle.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

When you have long nails.

[Paige]

Yeah, I do my knuckle, but, like,

[Hannah]

that's not good for women.

[Paige]

No, it's not made for women.

[Hannah]

It's not. Oh, yeah. So she said. Died over the shout out. I work at the African American History Smithsonian. Smithsonian. I work at the African American History Smithsonian. They want to give us a tour if we ever go to D.C. they have exhibits on sports and fashion that can be catered to our respective interests. And that's. That is so sweet, being a giggler. They're all, like, genius women.

[Paige]

They really are. And we didn't even know what a Smithsonian was.

[Hannah]

I thought that was, like, a man. Maybe it is a man. How are you?

[Paige]

Good. How are you? Wait, I need to talk about my Lemme Day.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

Yes. It was my favorite day of my entire life. Like, it was truly the best day of my whole life.

[Hannah]

Knowing you and, like, stuff you used to talk about before these things happened to you makes it more magical. Like, you love the Kardashians.

[Paige]

Love them.

[Hannah]

It's always on in your apartment.

[Paige]

I've never been a hater of them. You. There is nothing they could do to make me hate them. I'm obsessed with every single one of them. So when we first got an email that Lemmy wanted to collab with us, we were actually sitting in a Daphne office, like, around the table, and one of the our Daphne people was like, okay, this is gonna sound crazy, but, like, Lemmy wants to collab, and I, like, lost my mind. And they were like, we didn't know, like, if you were gonna want to do it. And I was, like, gonna wanna do it. Are you kidding?

[Hannah]

When you texted me, it was like, the most, like, starstruck I've been.

[Paige]

They were like, something sleep week. She thought it would be cute if we, like, collabed on Let me Sleep, like, perfect. I was like, no, perfect. The marketing rights itself. Also just like, thank God I created a brand that's, like, in the bed. Because anytime I go somewhere, they're like, okay, and the first shot is you in the bed. I'm like, perfect. Thank you.

[Hannah]

It wasn't just you, like, holding a Lemme Gummy. It was you spending a day with Courtney.

[Paige]

So we pull up. Okay, first, I obviously get glam. I like taking pictures. Like, love my outfit. We pull. We drive to Calabasas. We pull up. When you pull up. It wasn't what I was expecting it to look like on the outside. Like, it looks like a very, like, just professional, I don't know, like, complex.

[Hannah]

Have you ever been to Calabasas?

[Paige]

No, never been to Calabasas.

[Hannah]

I didn't know it was a real thing. I thought it was just part of this.

[Paige]

Very sweet. It's very cute. It's far, though.

[Hannah]

But, like, they must live near it.

[Paige]

They live near it.

[Hannah]

Convenient.

[Paige]

So we get there, we're in the parking lot. We're like about to walk in. And we walk in, two, like, girls sitting at the front desk. And they're like, hey, welcome to Kim's studio. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Hannah]

You're like, kim who?

[Paige]

So you. There's like a little computer in the front and it's like, like you click.

[Hannah]

It's a fake computer. It.

[Paige]

Hannah. It felt like Barbie life size. I was like, this is not real. There's no way this can be real. So it's a little computer and you click like Kim's office or. Or Kim's studio. And so we click like Kim Studio. You're immediately you're signing an NDA on top of the NDA that you've already signed to even, like, agree to get the address.

[Hannah]

NDA about your NDA. Yeah, they're like, you're breaking right now.

[Paige]

No, you can say you signed an NDA.

[Hannah]

So for your lawyers.

[Paige]

So you walk in, it's stunning, beautiful. Like, everything is exactly what you think it's going to be. And so then we, like, keep walking back. And then we like, enter into, like, the glam room. It's just.

[Hannah]

Which, of course, they have.

[Paige]

It's just rows of. It's my dream.

[Hannah]

There's just makeup artists in every room, like, giving touch ups to you.

[Paige]

It's a rows of glam chairs with, like, mirrors. Light, perfect light on the other side. It's just like a massive couch that looks like, like a bed. And then it's just like lines of Daphne clothes. And then like inside the studio is like, the bed and everything.

[Hannah]

You know what? I have to say that you have to be proud of the Kardashians. That is a business run by woman. Women.

[Paige]

Oh, yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, every single decision is made by a woman. It's not women written by men. And, like, these are powerhouses making those decisions.

[Paige]

There was, like, random people in different parts, like, working on different stuff that you could, like, tell there's a lot of people.

[Hannah]

Well, they're running 4,000 businesses.

[Paige]

Businesses. And not every of their business is even in that one building. I don't think so. Then one Of Courtney's, like, people come over and they're like, okay, Courtney's pulling up. Like, we'll start in a little. And so I'm like, okay, let me pee. Like, before we really start. And mind you, they wrapped our phone so, like, we couldn't take any pictures. So we were, like, very present in the moment because we could only look at each other like, we had nowhere to look.

[Hannah]

And you go, hi. Who are you guys?

[Paige]

I go, nice to meet you, Paige. So nice to meet you. And there's one moment I knew you had blue eyes. There's one moment, like, I go in the bathroom and I, like, had a. Not a panic attack, but I was like, oh, my God. Like, I'm at the Kardashians office. I'm about to shoot with Courtney. And you've met her before. I never met her before. For anyone who says that Courtney doesn't work, she is one of the most efficient workers I've ever met in my life. She showed up, she was ready. We professional, professional. Shot for like, an hour, maybe an hour and a half. Got everything. Her team, the nicest people ever. Like, it was truly so much more down to earth and normal than I was expecting. Like, we were just kikiing.

[Hannah]

One thing I have to say about the Kardashians is they have longevity, and you don't have longevity unless you're, like, good to work with and work efficiently.

[Paige]

No, there was a moment where they were like, okay, heads closer together, and, like, I'm, like, in Courtney's bosom, you know?

[Hannah]

Like, I'm like, you're in bed with her.

[Paige]

Like, I'm literally, literally laying on her. And I turned to her and I go, second base. You have a really relaxing presence. And she's like, thank you so much.

[Hannah]

She goes, thanks, I'm sleeping.

[Paige]

Like, she. She felt very, like, maternal. Like, I was just like, she is. Yeah. I was just like, wait, you're very, like, calm.

[Hannah]

Was there anything about her that was different than what you thought it would be?

[Paige]

Not at all. She, like, went into, like, some long winded story that, like, I don't even remember now, but I'm like, I'll listen to you for hours.

[Hannah]

I think she, like, Chloe is by far, like, the comedian. Yeah. But Kourtney makes me laugh.

[Paige]

No, she's. She's unintentionally, really funny.

[Hannah]

She's so dry and so honest. She does remind me of you in a way where, like, she'll just say it and own it.

[Paige]

Yeah. Like, she'll just be, like, gross. And I. I love it. I'm just, like, obsessed with her.

[Hannah]

That is so cool. And it just shows. Live your dreams. Manifestation is real.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

No.

[Paige]

I was on such a high after that. Then, like, my whole team, we all went to the Beverly Hills hot hotel. I even got, like, an alcoholic drink I was on.

[Hannah]

Celebrated.

[Paige]

Yeah. I had a glass of wine. No, it was so fun. And that was before I did sag. So I was out there and we shot Lemmy.

[Hannah]

When it comes to meeting, like, people you admire, there's one thing to, like, get a selfie with them, but to actually spend quality time with them and see how their brain works and, like,

[Paige]

be like, she was just so nice. Like, and she didn't have to be as overly nice to me as she was. She could have just been like, yeah, we're doing this thing. It's, like, for my brand. Like, let's get it done. Like, great to meet you, Sia. But she was very, like, warm and welcoming.

[Hannah]

And that means the world.

[Paige]

It really does.

[Hannah]

It really does. So everyone remember to be kind, honestly, around the worst day. And, like, if a random person, like, says they like my poncho, like, like, my days turned around, go up to

[Paige]

a random person and say, like, their poncho.

[Hannah]

I'm like, I believe in humanity again.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

This episode is presented by Depop. Okay, Gigglers, can we talk about the fact that we all have a section in our closet that basically is just vibes and illusion? Like, I bought it for a version of me that goes to Paris Fashion Week, but she hasn't checked in recently. Instead of letting those pieces emotionally support you from the hanger, you could be making money on Depop. Depop is a fashion resale app where your personal taste actually has value. And before you're like, ugh. So selling sounds like admin. Relax. You can list an item in just a few taps. On Depop, you snap a photo, and their AI listing tool helps fill in the details. They even suggest smart pricing, which is giving efficiency. And the best part, no seller fees. I'm obsessed. Make money easily with no seller fees. On Depop, that means what you earn is yours. Even if you sell one thing, that's a win. Also, Depop has built in tools like offers and boosted listings so your pieces actually get seen by people who share your taste. Because trust, someone out there is searching for the exact jacket you're saving. So download the Depop app, list one item, and let your closet start paying you back. It's chic, it's productive. It's Depop. Did you know? Fast Growing Trees is America's largest and most trusted online nursery with thousands of trees and plants and over 2 million happy customers. They have all the plants your yard and home needs, including fruit trees, privacy trees, flowering trees, shrubs and houseplants, all grown with care and guaranteed to arrive healthy. It's like your local nursery, but anywhere you live with more plants than you'll find anywhere else. Whatever you're looking for, Fast Growing Trees helps you find options that actually work for your climate, space and lifestyle. Fast Growing Trees makes it easy to get your dream yard. Just click, order, grow and get healthy, thriving plants delivered to your door. Their Alive and Thrive guarantee promises that your plants arrive happy and healthy. No green thumb required, just quality plants you can count on. Plus, get ongoing support from trained plant experts who can help you plan your landscape, choose your right plants and learn how to care for them every step of the way.

[Paige]

I don't want to brag or anything,

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

but I've kept a plant alive for over five years. Actually I think we're going on our

[Paige]

six year anniversary so I'm very passionate

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

about plants and you definitely don't need a big yard or a lot of space. You can grow lemon, avocado, olive or fig trees indoors along with a wide variety of house plants, all grown with care and hand selected to thrive in your home. Right now they have great deals on spring planting essentials, up to half off on select plants and listeners of our show get 20% off their first purchase when using the code Giggly at checkout. That's an additional 20% off. Better plants and better growing at fastgrowingtrees.com using the code giggly at checkout fast growingtrees.com code giggly now's the perfect time to plant. Let's grow together and use Code Giggly to save. Offer is valid for a limited time. Turns and conditions may apply. Gigglers. You know I love a matching moment. From my shoes to my accessories, even down to my phone case. So when I found Velvet Caviar and saw how cute their cases were, I immediately knew you guys would love them too. Right now they're giving our listeners an exclusive Buy one, get one free deal on all their best selling phone cases and matching accessories. With Code Giggly. Spring is the perfect time for a fresh reset. So open all the windows in your apartment and go to Velvet Caviar. They have all the trendy styles, fun prints, brand collabs and really chic neutrals. You're sure to find a case that you'll love Every Velvet Caviar case is drop tested up to 10ft so you don't have to worry even if you drop your phone daily like I do. If you're obsessed with a matching moment like me, you'll love their matching magsafe accessories like grip rings, wallets, battery packs and more. We have an exclusive deal for our listeners to buy one, get one free on all of Velvet Caviar's phone cases and matching accessories. Use code Giggly. The deal lasts for 24 hours only so visit velvet caviar.com and use code Giggly at checkout. That's V E L V E T C A v I a r.com use code giggly for buy one get one free on phone cases, accessories and more.

[Sponsor Voice]

This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game? Shifting a little money here, a little there and hoping it all works out? Well, with the name your price tool from Progressive, you can be a better budgeter and potentially lower your insurance bill too. You tell Progressive what you want to pay for car insurance and they'll help you find options within your budget. Try it [e-mail], progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. Not available in all states.

[Paige]

Can I say something crazy and controversial please? It's actually not but like whatever. Yeah, I don't think I'll ever get Botox ever again for the rest of my life. Like I'm never get. I don't think I will ever inject my fate. I don't think I'll ever do any anti aging like at a doctor ever again.

[Hannah]

Us Weekly's freaking out right now. They're like, send it to the press.

[Paige]

Here's what I'll say. I'm sorry. Thankful. I'm so thankful that I have the mom that I have. That was like if you ever touch your face, I'll fudgeing kill you.

[Hannah]

Well, you were kind of the test rat for us.

[Paige]

Totally.

[Hannah]

I was like, yeah, go get botanics. Tell me how it goes, you guys. And I waited a couple set me the fuck up.

[Paige]

Well, you went, you went overboard.

[Hannah]

Tell me where you made the mistake.

[Paige]

So when I first got so I was like, I'm 33, you're perfect.

[Hannah]

You've never made a mistake.

[Paige]

I was like, I'm 33, I really want to try it. So I'm happy that I waited until I was 33 years old.

[Hannah]

Also your feed is just full of women being like and I got botox here and I got buttocks here, and this is how I look at Botox. And they're just, like, looking stunning and whatever.

[Paige]

I just don't think it's worth it. Like, I think there are so many pros, but I think there are so many cons. Like, I think it made me uglier, honestly. Like, ultimately, I think my experience with it is I think it was. Made my face look worse than it did better. And I think not, like, for who injected me. None of that. I just think for my own face, I didn't like. I don't like it at all.

[Hannah]

So first you got your forehead, and your initial reaction was, I love it. I'm obsessed with it.

[Paige]

I got my forehead, and then I

[Hannah]

got, like, right here, and why.

[Paige]

And I got my chin, and you got your chin. Then I went back three months later, got, like, a little bit more in my forehead, a little bit more in my chin, which messed up my mouth for the whole time. Like, since I've had. Which I think that was, like, in January now we're almost in March. And I just. I think it just puts such a bad taste in my mouth because it's like, you go to get something and then you hate. You have more problems than to get proper.

[Hannah]

More insecure about your face.

[Paige]

100%. And so, like, I feel like it'll be almost pretty much dissolved by, like, I would say by the summer, I'll probably be, like, back to my normal face. And I don't think anyone could ever convince me to go back and get Botox. And the only reason I want to say that is because I know that so many girls might have gotten it when you might have gotten it because they were like. Because I did it. Like, okay, like, maybe it's time. Because we're all, like, pretty much all the same age.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

But I know there's so many girls that listen to us who are in college and sometimes even a little bit younger. I don't think they should get it.

[Hannah]

That is so powerful of you to say. And I appreciate it as someone who hasn't gotten Botox yet, because I want to see what your experience is going to be perfect.

[Paige]

What a friend.

[Hannah]

Yes. You might see lines on your face, which I personally love my lines because, one, it gets me more respect in the boardroom when I'm stuffing my face with a croissant sandwich that I stole from you and telling them about.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Strategy. They can tell I've seen some.

[Paige]

I feel like I've also kind of hit in age where I'm like, well, one, I feel like I'm, like, hotter than I was when I was, like, 25.

[Hannah]

So much.

[Paige]

But two, I also feel like I've hit an age where I don't want to look like a young girl in their 20s because I'm like, wait, do you know how awful girls in their 20s are treated? Like, I don't want to look like I'm that young because I've been through too much to get disrespected.

[Hannah]

Like, it's horrible. But there is also a thing aging does not mean uglier.

[Paige]

Right?

[Hannah]

Let's normalize that. Aging is growth, is knowledge, is also. Like, Grace literally said to us the other day, we're in the elevator, and she was like, I can't wait to be your age. And we were like, why? And she was like, because you guys are so pretty. And I. She said that to us. You weren't listening.

[Paige]

No, I don't think.

[Hannah]

But, like, we're inspiring her. As in, like, I mean, I've lost my baby fat. I also know my face better. I found the right hair color.

[Paige]

Like, I'm evolving, Have found the right hair color.

[Hannah]

I also come from a line of women who are fucking gorgeous in every decade. Like, I look at my mom in her 30s or 40s, her 50s, and it's just, like, epic. Every single one.

[Paige]

Um, but also, like, when I see a man on the street who has, like, gray hair or, like salt and pepper beard or something, I'm like, oh, hot.

[Hannah]

Like it to me.

[Paige]

Yeah. Like, that guy's, like, older and hot and knows things. And not that I'm saying, like, I'm not going to. I would never die. Like, I would never have gray hair. That's one thing that I wouldn't do.

[Hannah]

It can be chic.

[Paige]

Like, it can be chic, but, like, I will dye my hair when I get to that point.

[Hannah]

But go blonde.

[Paige]

No, Like, I'll be a brunette, but I just don't think I will, like, okay, anti aging. Like, eye cream, great. But I don't think I'll ever go. But again, I would argue stick surgeon and get something anti aging until I'm like, in my 50s.

[Hannah]

I would argue that a lot of these products, though, like, I'm so sick of girls putting on products and tick tock and being like, look how glossy my skin looks. I'm like, yeah, you just put something shiny on it.

[Paige]

Yeah, that's an oil.

[Hannah]

That's an oil. Like, people like, look how shiny my skin is. I'm like, because you put an Oil on it, it didn't actually change, but. And even like the under eye stuff, it's so expensive. And I'm like, is it that different than like the other stuff?

[Paige]

Now when I got Botox, do I think it was phenomenal for my crow's feet? Totally. But I think the cons outweighed that.

[Hannah]

Like, one benefit and not to talk. But sometimes when people have too much Botox and they smile and they don't have crows feet, it looks like a horror movie smile where they're like, yeah. Yes.

[Paige]

So I just don't think I'll ever do it again. And. But I'm happy. I actually am happy that I was the guinea pig for this because I do feel like a lot of gigglers were like, I had like, a lot of women even in my real life be like, wait, I think I'm gonna get it now. Like, where'd you go? Or like, how did you like it? And so I'm just like.

[Hannah]

So you wouldn't even get a little forehead?

[Paige]

Honestly, I don't think so. I don't know.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Okay. Maybe like next fall if I'm like, oh, maybe I'll just get like a little in my forehead. Okay. But I don't think I'll ever do it the way I did it.

[Hannah]

I also think you have a particular job where you're speaking. You're a comedian.

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

You're promoting. So you're interviewing.

[Paige]

Like, host talk.

[Hannah]

When you're hosting with. With too much Botox, it's difficult.

[Paige]

The amount of things I've been I've googled for the past three months. Like, I actually think it almost made me feel like it looked like I. It didn't look like I got lip filler because my lips didn't, like, get bigger. But it almost made me feel like the shape of my lip change changed for some reason.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And I hated it. I was like, I have amazing lips and I have an amazing mouth. Like, I don't know.

[Hannah]

Speaking of the Kardashians, there was a time where Kim did something to her chin where, like, the. Her lips looked, like, lower. Yeah. Than they were. And she, like, fixed.

[Paige]

The only thing I could think about was, wow, how many girls get suckered into getting, like, filler and then that doesn't go away. I was so thankful. Like, I kept just reminding myself, like, okay, it's Botox. So, like, it's gonna go away. You're not gonna be like this forever. And thank. So if you're contemplating filler or Botox, don't Do it.

[Hannah]

I'm obsessed with you. My biggest piece of advice, too, is stop looking in the mirror so much. Girls. Okay, no, like, people are looking in the mirror, trying to, like, find issues.

[Paige]

Sorry, that's my hobby. No, but, like, the other night, Hannah was at my apartment. I was like, sorry, I think I'm going to go do my hobby. And Grace was like, you're going to read? And I was like, I'm going to shower, do a face mask, do my skincare.

[Hannah]

You would do skincare all day if you. If you could. Yeah, where I'm like, the person, like, who's on the couch at night, and

[Paige]

I'm like, no, Hannah, I need a full hour before I get into bed.

[Hannah]

We live such different lives.

[Paige]

Thanks, Joe. It's a red light.

[Sponsor Voice / Narrator]

I have to.

[Paige]

I have to tune fork.

[Hannah]

And Kitty loves.

[Paige]

Loves tuning forks. She loves them.

[Hannah]

I also have to say, though, when you're always looking in the mirror and you're always picking yourself apart like, you're. You're not seeing, like, it is dysmorphia at some point. And at one point, let's say you're like, oh, I hate these lines on my face.

[Paige]

You think I fully have body dysmorphia.

[Hannah]

You do have body dysmorphia. And I try my best, and I say that you're beautiful. And you're like, you're my best friend.

[Paige]

Of course you say that.

[Hannah]

Shut up.

[Paige]

I'm like, contractually, you have to say that in Potsdam.

[Hannah]

You're like, I'm surrounded by yes people.

[Paige]

No, that's when I call my mom. Whenever I feel like I'm surrounded by yes people, I just call my mom. I'm like, what do you think she said? Get your mouth. That's up.

[Hannah]

Yeah, but there is a moment where, like, okay, let's say I have some lines on my face. Yeah, but then in your situation, I get Botox. Now I hate myself in a different way that feels unfamiliar to me.

[Paige]

And you get even more mad because you're like, this isn't even me. I wasn't born.

[Hannah]

This isn't my fault.

[Paige]

This isn't my mess up outer thing.

[Hannah]

And then you feel like you're not even your true self. I'd rather be my true self. And ugly.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Than someone else making me ugly.

[Paige]

No, that's. That's what it is. I'm like, I rather hate myself the way I was made than hate myself for what I did.

[Hannah]

Hate yourself authentically.

[Paige]

Let me hate myself in peace.

[Hannah]

And some girls, you put so much On. I don't even see their soul anymore. Yeah, Blocked.

[Paige]

That's why I'm just. I feel like I wanted to say this because I know there's so many girls that get filler, and that's so not repairable the way, like, Botox is. And so I didn't even want. Not that I ever thought about getting filler, because it truly does scare me.

[Hannah]

But there's also a, like, idea of when you do filler, like, you're trying to look how you used to be, which is what we were saying. We're like, what if you discover what you're gonna look like? Why are we always trying to be like what we were?

[Paige]

And honestly, I'm actually low key, not that worried about aging. Like, I've never really been that nervous about aging because, like, we don't drink. Like, we really don't. Like, we are not people that, like, have a drink every single day.

[Hannah]

I had, like, three quesadillas the other night. I woke up with a hangover. Like, that was crazy.

[Paige]

No, we were hungover from the Mexican.

[Hannah]

Well, I also was hungover from socializing so much, being the bell of the ball, which is exhausting.

[Paige]

But I never really think about aging like that because I know that I have a drink maybe, like, once a month.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Well, this. This episode has been so informative, and I really love that you said that. Like, that was. You were like, I tried it with a whole open heart.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And this is my feedback, and this is my.

[Paige]

This was my journey.

[Hannah]

And if you want Paige to try out anything else, she will just DM her.

[Paige]

I will. I do think I am gonna go get Micro needling. But anyway,

[Hannah]

also, before we wrap up, I want to let you guys know that my Buffalo Wild Wings commercial is out.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Now, this is my first ever TV commercial, and it's so funny because I feel like it's so glamorous. Paige versus Hannah coated. Like, Paige is like, if I could

[Paige]

make commercials all year or for the rest of my life, I would.

[Hannah]

But you're like, I have a tresma. I'm doing Lemmy. I'm doing. You know, I'm on a spaceship.

[Paige]

We love branding at Paige's Orbo headquarters.

[Hannah]

But then I literally got a call, and I'm like, I'm obsessed with B dubs. I also, Hank, I shot with Beck Bennett from snl, who does the voice of Hank, and we riff the whole time. It was so much fun. I'll tell you guys more about next episode. Check it out. I just posted. But shout out to BDubs and shout out to Botox. We'll see you next week and we love you guys so much. Bye.

[Adam Grant]

Hey, this is Adam Grant, host of ted's podcast Rethinking with Adam Grant. Have you heard of Bill? It's the intelligent finance platform that uses AI to help you avoid costly errors and optimize cash flow. In fact, Bill reports that over 90 of the top 100 US accounting firms trust them to manage, move and maximize money proven by over a trillion dollars in secure transactions. Eliminate the friction and start scaling with the proven choice. Visit bill.com proven to talk with an expert about automating your business finances and get a $250 gift card as a thank you. That's bill.com proven terms and conditions apply. See Offer page for details. Guys, it's no use putting it off. The best time for an underwear refresh is now. Tommy John Underwear is designed for a perfect fit that stays put all day. There's zero chafe, thanks to four times more stretch than competing brands and their innovative horizontal quickdraw fly is a game changer. With over 30 million pairs sold, there are thousands of men out there more comfortable than you. Don't settle for less. Go to tommyjohn.com today for 25% off your first order with code comfort. That's tommyjohn.com comfort Tommy John comfort Perfected.