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- [00:00]
Paige DeSorbo
Lemonade sings a pet insurance customer review.
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Hannah Berner
My new puppy swallowed a bone. Still a good boy though. And boy was I glad that I had lemonade. I was pay back quickly and efficiently. Everyone was so nice. Got this pet insurance and get a quote@lemonade.com pet.
- [00:32]
Unknown
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- [00:59]
Paige DeSorbo
Easy cleanup.
- [01:00]
Unknown
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- [01:58]
Hannah Berner
Sup, gigglers? Gary, fix your Wi Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be manic. I mean, the day just got away from me.
- [02:12]
Paige DeSorbo
Hello?
- [02:14]
Hannah Berner
Like, what? No, you guys were not okay.
- [02:18]
Paige DeSorbo
No, I'm not okay.
- [02:21]
Hannah Berner
If our audio isn't perfect, it's because we're not perfect. We're not perfect people. I'm in la.
- [02:29]
Paige DeSorbo
We've been so giggly squad coded this week. It's not even insane.
- [02:34]
Hannah Berner
We went to the bit has gone too serious.
- [02:38]
Paige DeSorbo
It's gotten to way too serious.
- [02:40]
Hannah Berner
Paige. I, like forgot my phone and an Uber and then I almost forgot my my MacBook in an Uber. And then I walked in, realized I forgot my library. Like, you know when you've literally forgot your torso? Like, I forgot my card. I just said library card in my hotel card. And I Literally was just naked. And they were like, what's going on? And I'm like. And it was like 1am after our shows. So I do have to say, before we get into it, that our shows have been. I'm biased. Unfucking believable. Like, the crowds, the content, like, I'm so proud. I think it's one of the funniest. I think it's the funniest show we've done.
- [03:20]
Paige DeSorbo
Sorry. I'm still thinking about your library card.
- [03:24]
Hannah Berner
I literally haven't been to a library since I was nine.
- [03:26]
Paige DeSorbo
No, I'm trying to think, like, if I ever had a library card.
- [03:31]
Hannah Berner
No, I could smell the, like, back of the book. And then I always get afraid how. Wait. I was so afraid that I wouldn't return the book or I'd lose the book and then my family would be in debt forever to the library.
- [03:42]
Paige DeSorbo
That's why I never took any out.
- [03:44]
Hannah Berner
Yeah, you're smart. So anyway, long story short, the actual show has been fucking unbelievable.
- [03:51]
Unknown
So fun.
- [03:52]
Hannah Berner
Everything else has been chaos.
- [03:56]
Paige DeSorbo
No. Truly chaotic. This is why we belong on reality tv, because it's just been true chaos behind the scenes. I also will say we've been getting really good guys for Is He Trash?
- [04:09]
Hannah Berner
But is that good or bad for society?
- [04:11]
Paige DeSorbo
No.
- [04:13]
Hannah Berner
The fact that the hit rate is getting higher for trashy dudes.
- [04:18]
Paige DeSorbo
No. It's so funny because, like, when we first started doing the segment, Is He Trash? I was like, how is this going to go? Because this is, like, completely by chance. But it ends up always being funny because it's so, like, raw and real. And, like, I feel like when you're on stage, like, you can, like, if you've never been on stage or do that type of thing, you can only really be yourself because you are so stunned that you're, like, in front of, like, 3,000 people.
- [04:47]
Hannah Berner
No. It's literally like getting a zoo animal and putting them, like, in a cage, and they're like, what the fuck is going on? And then you start.
- [04:56]
Paige DeSorbo
It's literally chim crazy.
- [04:58]
Hannah Berner
And therapy. It's chimp crazy. Also, the best part is when they say something that's not trash. And I love looking at you and being like, Paige. And you go, trash.
- [05:06]
Paige DeSorbo
Trash. I love. I love when other men in the crowd try and form an alliance with, like, the guy on stage.
- [05:17]
Hannah Berner
I like getting the men to feel. Finally feel comfortable. And then when they feel comfortable, putting them, like, right back in their place. Honestly, it's emotional terrorism, what we do on stage. The boys. And then.
- [05:28]
Paige DeSorbo
No, it Makes me think of, like. It makes me think of, like, Theo Vaughan, where he's like, I think women should be able to kill, like, one man a month. I feel like that's our version of, like, bringing a man's confidence down at least once a week.
- [05:42]
Hannah Berner
My favorite is when the gigglers, like, turn on the man so much that I'm like, look, I had a method, but, like you, we've lost control of the gigglers. And now I can't help you because we can't control the gigglers. So this is on you, babe.
- [05:56]
Paige DeSorbo
This is so funny.
- [05:56]
Hannah Berner
So anyway, that's one of our favorite segments that we've been doing. Do you want to give them an update, Paige? Wait. This is so page coded. She literally is like, I can't wait to tell the gigglers how I'm feeling. And she goes, let's talk about library cards. Are you crying?
- [06:16]
Paige DeSorbo
If I don't laugh, I'll cry. It's just. That's where I'm at right now. Okay? Obviously, like, we did a tour last year, and I. Fine, amazing, great, walked out on stage, no problems. And for whatever reason, like, this tour, I've never really. I've always said, like, oh, I have, like, general anxiety. Like, I get nervous about certain things, and I'm just like a basic human. I never really felt panic attacks the way, like, people would describe them. Like, I would listen to people and be like, that's so crazy, and that's insane, and I feel so bad for you. But never have I personally experienced that's crazy for you. That's crazy for you. She got a handle on that. Maybe talk to someone. And so I had my first, like, real legit panic attack. And the crazy thing about anxiety is it's. You don't know what it's about. And, yes, obviously, like, I was about to go on stage in front of 3,000 people, so you could be like, oh, yeah, it's stage frightened. Except that I've done that 50 times before. Like, I. Yeah, I've been on reality TV for six years. You can't say anything to me that's, like, gonna rattle me at this point. So I think I was, like, part frustrated of, like, what the is going on with my body. I just want to say that the gigglers are some of, like, the realest people in the world. I had a giggler. DM me. She's a judge. Like, a full fucking judge. And she goes, I have to take a beta blocker before every court case I do. And I was like, that's that's just like, such. Being such a girl. That's such girlhood. And so I've never been on medicine for anxiety before. I. Not that I've obviously against medicine for people. Like, if you need medicine, you should take it. For myself, I always was like, I'm stronger than that. I don't need something. Like, this is all in my head. I'm strong enough to tell myself to snap out of it, and I just wasn't. And I think admitting that to yourself is part of the battle. So I'd never taken a beta blocker before. I didn't know what it was. It's actually for high blood pressure, and luckily my makeup artist had one of them. It takes away the physical symptoms of a panic attack because that's pretty much your brain telling your body, like, hey, I actually think we're dying. So, like, prepare for it. And so it takes away that. And so when I took a beta blocker and went out and did the show, I was completely fine. At one point at one of the shows, then, like, I psyched myself out. Like, oh, my God, is it going to happen again the next night? And sure, it. Sure enough, it did, because I think I psyched myself out at one point. I took half a Xanax. I do not like Xanax. I am not a Xanax, girly. It was not for me. The beta blocker worked way better. I felt way better on it. Xanax. If you're on Xanax, obviously, like, and it works for you, that's amazing. For me, it, like, I didn't like the way it made my brain feel compared to the beta blocker. The beta blocker. And you were nothing to my brain. No, not. I don't. Yeah. This is just raw.
- [09:42]
Hannah Berner
Can we acknowledge that I've turned into a full drug dealer in the last three days?
- [09:45]
Paige DeSorbo
No, literally. I've never done more drug deals in my life. I've never gotten pills in an envelope to my fucking hotel room.
- [09:56]
Hannah Berner
No. It was wrapped in, like, a collegiate sweatshirt. Someone was like, who got a collegiate sweatshirt? I was like, not Paige.
- [10:02]
Paige DeSorbo
Oh, that's half a Xanax in there. No. It's so crazy. And I just want to say to the gigglers that were commenting and being like, thank you for normalizing this. I guess I never, like, when people would be like, oh, we need to normalize this, or someone needs to talk about this more. I guess in my head, I always thought, like, well, would someone have, like, a problem with, like, that your body feels this way. And they do. Like, I. I think people really do see it as, like, such a weakness. And it's like, then figure your shit out. And it's like, okay, well, obviously I didn't plan for this to happen, and this is my job, so, like, I know I can do it. It's obviously something that's, like, happening in me that I need to, like, figure out. And I couldn't figure it out in 20 minutes before I had to be on stage, but luckily I did. And I'm just so thankful to the other gigglers for being like, I take beta blockers, too. Don't worry about it. Because I did feel less alone. I did feel less crazy. Honestly, I felt crazy.
- [11:05]
Hannah Berner
Well, I love that the judge messaged you because that, like, the Googles are so strong. Because it's like, you can go two ways. You can go, okay, my body's nervous. I'm having struggles. This is not what I meant to do or be. Like, this is what I meant to do, and I'm going to fucking figure it out and battle some demons to get to the next level. And I do.
- [11:24]
Paige DeSorbo
Giving up was not. Giving up is not an option.
- [11:28]
Hannah Berner
I do have to say, Paige had, like, in our Denver second show, you had, like, Paige had a panic attack to the point that, like, we were. I had to look at her and be like, I don't give a fuck. We can cancel the show. The gigglers don't care. And she got this look in her eye, like, eye of the tiger. And I put. I kept.
- [11:50]
Paige DeSorbo
I was like, I can't do that to the girls. I could never do that to the girls.
- [11:55]
Hannah Berner
Giving her ice, like, I don't know why I thought. I was like, hold the ice. And she was like, no. Like, I'm.
- [12:02]
Paige DeSorbo
At one point, you go, touch the rug. Feel. Feel how. Be in the moment of how the rug feels. I go, what the fuck is that gonna do? No, But I go, I'm literally screaming, crying, throwing up, and you're telling me to touch the fucking rug.
- [12:16]
Hannah Berner
She's actually screaming, crying, throwing up. And I'm like, this rug is soft. No. Cause someone told me that.
- [12:21]
Paige DeSorbo
No. Hannah started playing spa music at one point. I go, I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.
- [12:27]
Hannah Berner
I started playing sp. I was doing military box breaths with her. Like, I was going full. But this is the problem. Once you get into a panic attack, you've kind of, like, lost the plot already, where it's like. It's more. We needed the drugs to kick in. And this bitch. The second we get on stage, and the adrenaline hits from the Gigglers, and I'm just, like, pretending everything's fine.
- [12:49]
Paige DeSorbo
Performed the best they've ever performed.
- [12:51]
Hannah Berner
It was the best performance. Also, at one point, Paige was like. I think she was throwing up. Yeah, I had. I was taking selfies, and Grace was.
- [12:59]
Paige DeSorbo
Like, your sister's going.
- [13:03]
Hannah Berner
And I. I swear to God, I looked her, and I go, this is what Paige would have wanted. My outfit looks good, except. Tell them what you did. Mid panic attack.
- [13:11]
Paige DeSorbo
When I was getting mid panic attack, there was so much commotion. Like, my. My nerves would start to set in when we were, like, leaving the hotel to go to the venue. So, like, I was in my own head. So, like, a lot was going on. So Hannah had forgotten her top to her outfit.
- [13:28]
Hannah Berner
I was like, I had too much on my plate. She was freaking out, and I forgot my fucking top.
- [13:35]
Paige DeSorbo
Forgot. You're, like, your whole outfit. And in Denver, in the green room, the venue had made us these, like, silk pajamas with, like, Daphne's face on it and Butter's face on it, and they were so cute. So they were in the green room. So Hannah just, like, puts on.
- [13:50]
Hannah Berner
I was like, perfect.
- [13:51]
Paige DeSorbo
The pajama top. She's like, perfect. I'm just gonna wear this with my skirt. I'm literally trying to box, breathe hysterically crying, and the only words I can get out is, you can't wear that.
- [14:07]
Hannah Berner
Literally. Paige is blacked out, comes out of her blackout to say, please don't wear that on stage. You're embarrassing me. And then goes back into having a full anaphylactic shot.
- [14:18]
Paige DeSorbo
No. Literally needed an EpiPen. I pull a white T shirt out of my bag. I go put this on. Our makeup artist, Madeline, saved the fucking day. She got me a beta. She gave you her belt.
- [14:32]
Hannah Berner
Glam by Gibbs really was there for us.
- [14:34]
Paige DeSorbo
Glam by Gibbs saved our whole fucking life.
- [14:37]
Hannah Berner
Meanwhile, also, shout out to Grace for, like, running the show. Then Paige basically is looking at me, and I'm just like. I actually was, like, a little too confident in you. I was like, she's being dramatic, but, like, she's gonna be good.
- [14:49]
Paige DeSorbo
No, it actually, now that I think back to it, thank God, because you were acting so, like, you're gonna be fine that I wasn't freaking out more.
- [15:00]
Hannah Berner
Well, I also know you, like, at the end of the day, you are a performer, and, like, I've seen what you've done at these reunions. I'm, like, going on stage for Giggly Squad. Like, I. And I also am someone who's dealt with really bad performance anxiety. And I know how, like, the beforehand is the worst, and then once you're in it, you're in it. I also think this is a beautiful full circle moment, because when I was about to shoot my Netflix special, do you guys remember the episode that I sat down, I just started crying, and you were like, you good, bro? And I was just like, yeah. No. And I was. I was in my. Like, this happens. Like, we have these waves.
- [15:38]
Paige DeSorbo
No. Like, everyone is a human. Everyone is a human. And it's so. Like, life is such a wave. Like, sometimes you're really up and sometimes you're fucking down. And when you're down, it does not mean. Mean that something's wrong with you. It does not mean your whole life is a sham, your whole career is a sham. Like, thinking about that giggler who's the judge. Like, imagine she had one panic attack before a court case, and she was just like, and now I'm not doing this anymore. And it's like, no, this was your dream. You can do this. You're just psyching yourself out a little.
- [16:10]
Hannah Berner
And also, what makes you so funny is that you're actually an overthinker and you're anxious and you overanalyze stuff, and that's what makes you so funny. So that's why, like, a lot of comedians. Paige is a comedian. No. Yeah. So, like, you wouldn't even. We wouldn't have this podcast if we both were, like, normal.
- [16:30]
Paige DeSorbo
No, if I. If I was normal, I wouldn't be on reality TV the past five years. I'd be a normal person.
- [16:39]
Hannah Berner
I do have to say one thing about reality tv. I think the people who do best on it have, like, actual personality disorders. And I think you're actually healthy. And I think that you finish filming Summer House and immediately went on the road. And, like, anxiety comes from. Anxiety comes from a loss of control, whether it's a control your identity or control of results. And, like, I'm sorry, shooting reality TV is. While you're waiting for it to be edited, you're just rethinking everything you said and how everything could be spun and how anything could be put in a different context.
- [17:13]
Paige DeSorbo
So I think it become anything, and you're just like, I don't know, we'll.
- [17:17]
Hannah Berner
See, and you don't know. And so I do have to say, for the gigglers who suffer from anxiety, you could sit at home, do nothing, and not deal with anxiety. But arguably, that gives me more anxiety when I'm alone with My thoughts. But, like, if you're chasing a dream and you're putting yourself out there, you're going to deal with crazy moments like this. Yeah. And I did. I remember when I said it to you that it wasn't helpful at the time, but I said, like, this is not going to last forever. And I basically was like, treat it like a bad high. Like, you were literally having a bad high.
- [17:50]
Paige DeSorbo
Exactly how I would explain it. It was like I was having a bad trip and I was like, and life is like this forever. And this is how I see the world now. Like, I couldn't even, like, look.
- [18:02]
Hannah Berner
Yeah. You're like, I can't function anymore. And this is me.
- [18:05]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah. I can't function in society. Like, I have to, like, become a recluse. I'm like, thinking about, like, like, okay, I'm going to have to move out of my apartment. I have to go back to Albany. Like, I just. I felt. I felt insane. And I think that also psychs you out because.
- [18:23]
Hannah Berner
Yeah. Well, then you're scared of yourself.
- [18:26]
Paige DeSorbo
Yes.
- [18:26]
Hannah Berner
And then you're also mad at yourself.
- [18:28]
Paige DeSorbo
One of my biggest fears is going crazy one day. You just, like, go crazy and you can't control it. Like, the human brain is the scariest thing in the world to me because they don't know anything about it. Like, I think.
- [18:41]
Hannah Berner
No. Like, I saw the schizophrenic documentary.
- [18:45]
Paige DeSorbo
Like, when people get into, like, car accidents, they're like, well, we don't know, they might wake up, they might not. We don't know that much about the brain. Like, I always find that to be so terrifying.
- [18:55]
Hannah Berner
I do have to say, my really bad anxiety moments, they're the fucking worst. But I always become, like, stronger after in that I have more gratitude for when I'm just fucking okay. Yes.
- [19:07]
Paige DeSorbo
Because normally. Oh, my God.
- [19:09]
Hannah Berner
Like, you know, like, back like maybe two weeks ago, you were like, why is this not working? And why is that not working? Then once you are anxious, you're like, can I just be surviving here with my heart rate at a normal rate and I will be happy to be alive and once again, that zone life can throw anything at you.
- [19:27]
Paige DeSorbo
And like, no, you're so fucking right. You're so right. And I also feel like I am very. I think I'm a Scorpio. I'm a fucking cat. Like, I think I am. I'm psychic. I think I'm very in tune with my body, maybe a little tiny bit more than the average person. Like, I know when something's going on with my body. Like, I knew when I had a cyst on my ovaries. Like, I knew I wasn't getting my period. No, Like, I. Like, I know when things are going on with my own body. I feel very connected to my body. I always have. And that was, I think, one of the scariest parts, because I couldn't talk myself out of it or convince myself of anything else. When I'm very good at, like, manipulating myself. Like, I can psych myself out. I can ignore certain things in the room to, like, not infiltrate my brain. Like, I am very good at protecting myself, I feel like.
- [20:25]
Hannah Berner
But also. But the fact you're so good at that, I think, is why your body basically was like, stop lying. You're nervous. We are fudgeing. And, like, we're not. Like, your brain can only lie to your body for so long before your body's like, I'm fucking not. Not doing this. I'm not doing this.
- [20:43]
Paige DeSorbo
And I, like, now looking back, like, I just literally have to laugh so hard because I just have the most Italian parents.
- [20:50]
Hannah Berner
Wait, can we. This is my favorite story.
- [20:53]
Paige DeSorbo
Please, world.
- [20:54]
Hannah Berner
This is my favorite part of the night. Oh, my God. It's my favorite part of the night.
- [20:57]
Paige DeSorbo
My mom is the. My mom is the best mom in the entire world. She is the most nurturing, the most loving. She would literally drop everything and fly to fucking Africa right now if I was like, I need you to pick me up. I. And I don't like to tell her about my anxiety sometimes because, like, you think of, like, your mom, and, like, your mom's getting older, and you don't want to, like, burden her with certain things because it's like, you don't. You shouldn't have to be a mom anymore. I'm in my.
- [21:25]
Hannah Berner
If I tell my mom I'm anxious, then she's going to be anxious with me. And I'm like, she doesn't deserve that.
- [21:31]
Paige DeSorbo
No, she doesn't deserve that.
- [21:31]
Hannah Berner
Let her enjoy dinner. Let her enjoy one night of peace.
- [21:35]
Paige DeSorbo
I just. I always think, like, I'm closer to being a mom than I am to being her child.
- [21:41]
Hannah Berner
You're basically two years away from a geriatric pregnancy. Continue. No, it's gross.
- [21:48]
Paige DeSorbo
And so sometimes I'm like, I can't put this on my poor mother. She takes on everyone else's shit. But in this moment, it's crazy when, like, you get hurt or you get sick, like, you truly do revert to being a little kid, and you're like, all I want is my mom.
- [22:03]
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
- [22:04]
Paige DeSorbo
So I. She knew I was having.
- [22:07]
Hannah Berner
She goes, I need to call my mom. And I go, great idea. Great idea. FaceTime her. Great idea.
- [22:14]
Paige DeSorbo
This woman, this bitch gets on fucking FaceTime. I go, Mom, I'm having a really bad panic attack. She goes, no, you're not. No.
- [22:25]
Hannah Berner
Stop, Paige. Stop. Paige. Stop it.
- [22:29]
Paige DeSorbo
Stop it.
- [22:29]
Hannah Berner
Don't do this to yourself. Stop.
- [22:31]
Paige DeSorbo
You're in your own. Oh, come on, Page. Stop, Paige. Stop. I felt like I was immediately back to being a little kid and, like, I was being dramatic about something. And she's like, I don't have the time for it today. And it did really help me. And then my dad sent me the most dad text message I've ever gotten in my life. He goes, look. He always start. Whenever he's going to say something serious, he starts the sentence out with looks. Like, look, look at me.
- [23:03]
Hannah Berner
Look, look here.
- [23:06]
Paige DeSorbo
Like, this is the best advice you're ever going to get in your life. Everyone has. Even athletes have a bad game. Some even go into a slump. Look at Tom Brady. They fucking hated him. He just kept going, and now he's the best. You're the best. Just keep going.
- [23:26]
Hannah Berner
But honestly, that is so fucking sweet of him. Has zero context for what's going on. But I. So sweet of him.
- [23:34]
Paige DeSorbo
No, he's the best dad in the world. Like, he. He's literally. He's just such a quintessential dad. Like, growing up, if, like, something happened to me and I got hurt or, like, someone was mean to me, like, I was going to my mom. So, like, I don't think he was ever even put in a situation where, like, he had to nurture me in, like, a time like that because I was like, I'm not going to you, dude. Like, I need my mom. So now that I'm an adult, like, it's just funny. And I love. I love, Like, I love watching him parent. I don't know. It's just, like, I enjoy it.
- [24:10]
Hannah Berner
There is something about, like, the dad relationship that, like, over time, it does become very sweet, I guess. Like, for me, like, I'll be talking to my mom every day, and then occasionally my dad will overhear something and he'll text me and be like, by the way, like, I'm so proud of you. I love you. And I'm like, okay. I mean, like, not necessary, but, like, I appreciate you and I love you.
- [24:31]
Paige DeSorbo
I think it's. I think it's because women are so strong. I see my dad not as weak by any means, but I see my mom as, like, my rock. And I see my dad as someone, like, I need to protect a little more. You know, he's just a man. He doesn't know. Like, he's still just a dude. So, like, I just. I do have such a different bond with my mom that I feel. I feel like I can say more things.
- [24:57]
Hannah Berner
Can I give you. You have a lot of homework the next couple days, including rest. But one of them. I do want you to watch the Simone Biles documentary I watched because I.
- [25:06]
Paige DeSorbo
Thought about her and then I felt guilty at comparing myself to an Olympic athlete.
- [25:11]
Hannah Berner
No, but when she was in Tokyo, she has. She gets the yips, which I've had, which are basically like, you're in it. You can't just get out of it. And for her, if she fucked up, she would, like, break her neck. She goes back, calls her mom, who's at a viewing party with the whole family, and she goes, mom, I can't do it. And the mom just goes, okay, okay. And she. And she just goes. And she goes, sorry, Simone's not going to perform at the Olympics that she's been training for her whole life, for everyone. Go back home. And.
- [25:41]
Paige DeSorbo
No. That there was a power in the belt. And I also. Okay, I thought about Simone. I thought about that moment. And I also thought about how after she was like, people were so mad at me. People were like, you couldn't just get out there and do it. And I felt that. I was like, oh, my God. I do not want any of the gigglers to be mad at me because I was, like, going through this. And so I had, like, a real mind fuck that. Like, that's why when I went out on stage, I was like, okay, just fucking do it, because you're going to let down so many girls.
- [26:14]
Hannah Berner
It is crazy how, like, it's all perspective. And, like, when I played tennis, my perspective was like, you can't make a mistake if you make mistake. Everyone hates you, and you can't play free when you're afraid like that. And then with stand up, I very purposely have a perspective of like, you're loose, you're having fun, you're being yourself. There's no losing. I'm proud of you for going out there. But, like, perspective is crazy.
- [26:36]
Paige DeSorbo
And I think the number one thing that was making me so mad at my own self was like, giggly Squad is my favorite thing in life. Giggly Squad is my favorite hour of the week. I fucking love doing live shows. I was almost mad at myself that I was like, I filmed a Whole season of summer house didn't have one panic attack. And then I get to, like, my favorite thing in the world, and I'm getting, like, fucked up in the head. Like, I was mad.
- [27:03]
Hannah Berner
But do you know that that makes sense? Because your anxiety is going to go to your biggest fear, which is attacking what you love. Attacking what you love, 100%. So that was when I. Everything goes back to sports. Your dad would get this. I remember my sophomore year of college, we were working on my second serve, and my coach looks at me and goes, you know, I was changing my grip on my second serve and I literally lost my second serve and couldn't get it in all year. The second she said that, I was like, oh. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. And then immediately, like, the next time I got on the court, I was shanking it and I was just like, I lost. Like, I made my biggest fear happen and, like, I overcame it. It took forever. It was embarrassing and horrible. I remember my brother coming to one of the matches. I didn't tell him with his friends, and I was like, double faulting. And I remember hearing him in the crowd, like, come on, Hannah.
- [27:58]
Paige DeSorbo
And I remember feeling like it's embarrassing.
- [28:00]
Hannah Berner
I think that's so embarrassing.
- [28:03]
Paige DeSorbo
I think that's a really big emotion that people don't talk about with anxiety. You inherently get, like, embarrassed because, like, after I had a panic attack, I was like, I'm so sorry. And you were like, for what? Like, I felt so bad. Like, I literally ran off stage in North Carolina and I was like, I feel like I'm bringing you down. And, like, I'm so sorry. And you're like, what the are you talking about? You did fine. Like, you just psych yourself out so much.
- [28:33]
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
- [28:33]
Paige DeSorbo
And I'm just. It's just, oh, my God. Any of the gigglers that have anxiety or take beta blockers or take any type of anxiety medicine, I so feel for you. And I, like, see you. Because it's even. Like, I flew home last night on the red eye and I was on the plane and I had a moment where I was like, oh, my God, am I gonna have a panic attack on this fucking plane? And I was like, no, I'm doing, like, a normal thing that I've, like, I'm sitting on a plane. I'm not even doing anything. I'm going.
- [29:02]
Hannah Berner
Cortisol levels are so high right now. Anything could get you, like, anything.
- [29:06]
Paige DeSorbo
No, anything. Anything could literally give me a psychotic break. Like, please do not tempt me. I can't even go on Instagram. I don't even want to look at my messages because I'm like any little thing, even if you ask. You said you don't like that skirt. I'm done for. Like, I'm literally done for.
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Paige DeSorbo
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- [35:16]
Paige DeSorbo
The best thing I've ever done in my entire 31 years on this earth is get a fucking cat. I I am open unlocking my door at 5:30 this morning. I think my cat no I think that Daphne knew my fucking footsteps off of the elevator because never in the morning is that bitch awake. Like at 5:30 she came running to the door. I had just opened it so there's no way she even heard it. And my brother was staying at my apartment so I was being extra quiet. I opened the door, she comes running to me and I was nervous she was going to be like mad at me because this is the longest I've ever been away from her. She comes running to the door immediately purring, sticking her head in my face. She has not left my side. It is pure like laying with a cat and having your head face through. Her face is a Xanax. Like I don't need a Xanax prescription because I have Daphne. It is and it's just, it's very different from a dog. I don't know how to explain it because I've grown up with dogs my whole life. It is a different they just feel more human for some reason and they're like less animal and she's changed my whole life.
- [36:39]
Hannah Berner
They do get like love starved. I call it like butter has fun with Des but like when I come home she's like mommy is here. I also on the anxiety note there's this like shame that comes with it because it's like a dirty secret because like when we're sitting in the car you're like Hannah's not stressed about the show. I feel guilty that I'm stressed. I can't say it out loud. And then it becomes bigger because you're like. It's like a dirty secret that you're hiding. Yes.
- [37:09]
Paige DeSorbo
Wait, Hannah, that's so true.
- [37:11]
Hannah Berner
I would, like, do that with my forehand, where I'd be going to the match. And be quiet. Everyone's like, are you okay? And I'm like, yeah. But in my head, I'm like, they don't know that I'm not gonna hit a forehand this match.
- [37:21]
Paige DeSorbo
No. And, like, so many of my friends will be like, oh. I'm like, I'm in la. Like, do you want to meet up before the show? Or, like, like, my best friend, I'm.
- [37:31]
Hannah Berner
Having a panic attack at 4pm I'm.
- [37:32]
Paige DeSorbo
Like, I can't do anything. And I just like. And I'm like. And I can't tell you that I'm about to rip my hair out and jump off the fucking balcony.
- [37:42]
Hannah Berner
What I've learned is, like, tennis. It wasn't actually tennis. It's not actually, like, the shows. Your anxiety will manifest into something. So, like, I think we're both like. Like, you're working on a lot of things going on in your life. I was working on a lot of things. And your 30s are about being like, we have a lot more life to live. How do we do it in a way that we can function?
- [38:06]
Paige DeSorbo
Well, there's a statistic that, like, from, like, third, I think it's like, 30 to 34, that, like, if you're going to developing anxiety and depression, like, for women, that's the age you're gonna feel it the most, like, heightened, which is.
- [38:21]
Hannah Berner
And a lot of women get pregnant during that time, which is like, so they're already dealing with postpartum.
- [38:27]
Paige DeSorbo
I think there's a lot of pressure on women. I would say there's the most pressure on women from age 30 to 35 because, like, you are expected to get married, have a baby if, like, you're not married, and have a baby before 35, and then, like, after, you're kind of, like, disregarded in a sense. So I think there's. At that age, there's probably the most pressure on us because it's like, you're supposed to have it all together by now. Where men get a little bit more of a leeway. They, like, they get, I think, more pressure when they turn, like, 40.
- [39:01]
Hannah Berner
I mean, no one gave a shit. Des wasn't married at 40 right now.
- [39:06]
Paige DeSorbo
Right? No one would give a shit.
- [39:07]
Hannah Berner
And it's, it's also like, back then when your only purpose was to get married and have a family, that's all you focused on. But right now, women are like, I want an education. I want to be financially independent.
- [39:19]
Paige DeSorbo
I'd like to have a bank account. Sue me.
- [39:21]
Hannah Berner
Wait, I literally was thinking, I was thinking about how X were created. Because back then you, like, couldn't have an ick. Like, you had to, like, the guy. Like, divorce was illegal back then. No, like, you privilege. No. X are literally women finally being like, wait, he sits crisscross applesauce. I'm not fucking marrying this dude because I'm financially independent. I have my own passions and I don't need this man. But it's, it's the kids thing that get people like, oh, I need to settle down so I could have that family unit by whatever.
- [39:58]
Paige DeSorbo
Because just like your biological clock is like, we don't have much time.
- [40:03]
Hannah Berner
Okay, Marisa Tomei. But what I do realize about time is like, again, it takes one moment in your life for everything to change. Meeting the right person, just the right career.
- [40:18]
Paige DeSorbo
Everything can happen.
- [40:19]
Hannah Berner
Quitting a job, and we can always move and change. And everyone's gonna be fine. Everyone's gonna be fine.
- [40:27]
Paige DeSorbo
Moral of the story, everyone's. Everyone's gonna be fine as long as they get some big pharma.
- [40:34]
Hannah Berner
But I do have to tell you, speaking of big pharma, because you smoke weed, right?
- [40:40]
Paige DeSorbo
Well, I haven't. You haven't in like a week.
- [40:45]
Hannah Berner
So you're probably having a little.
- [40:48]
Paige DeSorbo
I just think it's having like a reverse effect on me. So, like, I have just been like, raw dogging life. And I don't really drink. Like, I don't.
- [40:57]
Hannah Berner
Yeah. But I think a lot of people are like you, where you're basically like, I don't need medication, but you smoke weed. And like, I had an ex who like, I knew I need to get out of the relationship. And I was having panic attacks, like, next to him when I was sleeping in bed because my body was like, get out. And I told him, like, I'm gonna go on Prozac. And he literally. They got like, I was going to an insane asylum.
- [41:23]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah.
- [41:24]
Hannah Berner
And he would wake up and take a hit of weed. Like, this man was so self medicating with weed. Yeah, that's going on 10 milligrams of Paxil was crazy to you. I'm like, you haven't had a sober thought in years. And like.
- [41:41]
Paige DeSorbo
And he's like, no, I Completely get that. I think also, like, no one in my family has ever been on medicine. So like, also to be the first. Also no one in my family has ever gone to therapy, you know, so like, to be the first person to like go to therapy or like, oh, I might, I might need to take medicine. It is a kind of a scary position to be because, like, I'm sorry, but like the, the oldest daughter has a fucking lot on her shoulders. Like, I feel like it's a. It's just you're the first to do a lot of things. I feel like you're breaking generational.
- [42:20]
Hannah Berner
Yeah, you're breaking generational habits. Like.
- [42:23]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah.
- [42:24]
Hannah Berner
I'm so proud of you.
- [42:26]
Paige DeSorbo
Thank you.
- [42:27]
Hannah Berner
But I also was telling like my shit because like, when I saw it happening to you, I was like, I fucking been there. And it's the most horrible, uncomfortable feeling. But like, you could have honestly, day one in Denver been like, hannah, I'm going home. Like, I'm done. But you, like, you're a fighter and you're.
- [42:45]
Paige DeSorbo
Well, I think, I think what, what kept me from not doing that is I knew in my head if I didn't go out on stage for the Denver show, I would have never gone back on stage. I would have, I would have. It would have gotten too big, I would have felt too bad and I would have said, cancel the whole tour.
- [43:07]
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
- [43:07]
Paige DeSorbo
And I. And I know that about myself. So I was kind of like, it's kind of like when you're a little kid and it's like you fall off the jungle gym and if you never go back on the jungle gym, you will forever be a afraid of the jungle gym. And so I was like, I have to go back. I have to go on stage right now, even though I'm going through this or I never will again. And I think that scared me the most.
- [43:28]
Hannah Berner
And you know your mind's playing tricks on you, so you will make that memory like it was the most horrible thing ever and you'll make it so much worse than it was. And I remember telling you. Do you remember how I was like, I'm so happy you went on again because if you were to go to therapy about it, the biggest thing they do is exposure therapy, which means keep whatever your fear is. Like do it a little, keep doing it. And then you realize, oh my God, this is a made up fear. So you basically exposure therapied yourself throughout this weekend and by the end you were like so much better because you.
- [43:59]
Paige DeSorbo
Were like, oh my God, wait, it's Literally fine. I was like, I'm fine. I just need to get home and rest now because also, I feel like people don't talk about this enough. A panic attack to your, like, physical body is so draining. Like, you're so emotionally and mentally drained already. But then physically, you're hungover. You're like, I feel like I ran a marathon because my adrenaline got so high that my body's now, like, coming down. Like, I literally felt like I was on a bender of drugs and I was coming down.
- [44:38]
Hannah Berner
Well, you had a trip. You had, like, a anxiety trip.
- [44:42]
Paige DeSorbo
I don't think the altitude helped either. I'm gonna be honest. I need to find someone who does astrology where it's like, oh, like, you should live in this part of the country, like, because of the stars. I think that Denver has something out for me. I've rarely. I've never really had a good time. Anytime I've ever been to Denver, I can't really. I don't. Like, I've been to Aspen a handful of times. I know people are like, oh, my God. It's, like, so chic and whatever. I can't handle it.
- [45:10]
Hannah Berner
Everything I said about Oklahoma City. Fuck Denver.
- [45:13]
Paige DeSorbo
Fuck Denver.
- [45:14]
Hannah Berner
Tell them about the IVs. Tell them about the IVs.
- [45:17]
Paige DeSorbo
Oh, my God. So when we first get to Denver, I'm like, oh, this is actually. I'm gonna get an iv. This will help. This is before I'm even feeling anxious. What's the.
- [45:25]
Hannah Berner
Solve all my problems?
- [45:27]
Paige DeSorbo
I'm like, I'll get some vitamins in me. It'll help with the altitude. Like, I'll be better than ever. My anxiety started to hit in the middle of us getting IVs, because I thought, wait a second. Wait a second. This lady could be putting anything in this bag. How do we really know she's even a nurse? What if she's putting fentanyl in there right now? I'm about to pass out and die. Like, my brain just took over.
- [45:52]
Hannah Berner
But then she looks at Paige and she's like, oh, my God, I have to get a smaller needle because your veins are so tiny. And I'm immediately like, oh, my God. This is gonna be her whole personality for the next year.
- [46:05]
Paige DeSorbo
It was my whole personality for the next. For that whole weekend. I was like, I'm sorry. Did you just say that I have the skinniest veins in the state of Colorado? I'm a baby. My veins are baby. You have to get a baby needle.
- [46:19]
Hannah Berner
She's like, I've never seen something so Tiny. Your vagina canal must be so narrow.
- [46:24]
Paige DeSorbo
And then I'm sitting there like, yeah.
- [46:27]
Hannah Berner
I'm like, oh, no. Because she comes to me next and obviously I have to ask her. I'm like, how are my veins? How do they look? And she's like, healthy. Normal. Normal.
- [46:36]
Paige DeSorbo
And I'm like, okay, they're body positive. They're, you know, they're normal for a girl.
- [46:43]
Hannah Berner
They're great. They're fucking great. Okay. You just fucking fat. Shame my veins.
- [46:49]
Paige DeSorbo
No, it was. And then we went to a cat cafe, which did actually calm me down a lot during.
- [46:54]
Hannah Berner
Well, you were low key, like, getting scared of the cat cafe because she was like, who are these, like, random street cats that are probably smelly and are gonna attack me?
- [47:04]
Paige DeSorbo
I thought it was like. I thought it was gonna be like a restaurant. I don't know why. In my head, I was picturing it to be like a full restaurant and there were just like, cats walking around. And I was like, yeah, I feel like there's a health code violation.
- [47:17]
Hannah Berner
It's a HIPAA somewhere.
- [47:18]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah, HIPAA has to be involved in their somewhere. But when you walk in, it's really just like a lap. It's like a. Yeah, it's someone's living room, basically. And there's just cats. And it was. I think the best feeling ever was there was a cat there that they were like, we've had. We've had him for two weeks and, like, he has not come out of his little house and, like, has not let anyone pet him. And I went over him. Yeah. And I went over to him. And I think we, like, telepathically. We're like, we're not okay. And because he immediately poked his. He immediately poked his head out and was like, I would like you to pet me. And I was like, I'm. This is just as much for me as it is for you. Like, it was a crazy experience. The holiday season can be stressful, but not with Nordstrom. They have a gift for everyone on your list, including yourself. Discover the best gifts and party dresses for festivities this holiday season. Get festive fashion advice from Nordstrom experts for free in stores online. And the Nordstrom app, they have gifts for everyone. Stocking stuffers gifts under a hundred dollars. Gift cards give whoever is on your list the perfect gift. The gift of choice. Gift cards let them explore Nordstrom on their own time. Explore more at Nordstrom in stores or online@nordstrom.com or download the Nordstrom app app.
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Hannah Berner
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- [51:39]
Paige DeSorbo
The number one thing you can do to help people that are having a panic attack is lie to them. Just lie right through your fucking teeth to them.
- [51:46]
Hannah Berner
I just googled it. It's the air. Actually, the air was fucking with me too. I was like. It was like, the air is on Ozempic. It's so fucking thin.
- [51:56]
Paige DeSorbo
Just got. I got my period that day too.
- [51:58]
Hannah Berner
Yes, it was a perfect storm.
- [52:00]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah, it truly was.
- [52:01]
Hannah Berner
So I was like, dude, you are so sane. It's everyone else that's crazy. But then, so Paige is on her iPad, we're heading to San Diego. She's like watching this is Us. She's so happy in the back. I'm like, great. Then I'm realizing we're like going an hour from San Diego, but it's through these like mountains and we're just going like higher and higher in the mountains. And I was like, oh, no. Oh no.
- [52:22]
Paige DeSorbo
We were high up. I feel like I looked out the window at one point and we were on the edge of a cliff. And I go, it's not for me right now. I'm gonna go back to my iPad. I literally couldn't do it.
- [52:33]
Hannah Berner
I told Grace. I was like, do not let Paige get her eye off the iPad because she will be freaking out.
- [52:38]
Paige DeSorbo
It was a gorgeous scenic wrap from the two seconds I looked. But I. I was like, if I one more second in this part, I'm jumping out the window off this.
- [52:47]
Hannah Berner
We were on the edge of a cliff and I was like, this is not good. This is not good.
- [52:50]
Paige DeSorbo
And I had to get it straight.
- [52:54]
Hannah Berner
But then we got to la, Jax DMS me, who, by the way, I just have to say I huge fan of Vanderpump Rules. Like, day one, when I was actually going through my, like, the worst breakup of my life when I was like 26, I would just go home, watch Vanderpump and watch them fight. And it just, like, cured my depression. So, like, fuck Prozac. Go on Vanderpump. So I have a soft spot for all the Vanderpump people. And Jax I've never met, and he dm's me, and he's like, I love Giggly Squad. Like, can I come to the show tomorrow? Schwartz is coming. And I was like, yes. Like, come through. And I, like, for kind of low key, forgot they were there because we were dealing with drama backstage.
- [53:37]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah, no, I was dying.
- [53:39]
Hannah Berner
And then in the Q and A, he grabs. He gets the mic from Grace. Gave him the mic.
- [53:45]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah.
- [53:46]
Hannah Berner
And he's like. Everyone's like, jax is here. And everyone starts freaking out. It was so funny. But immediately I was nervous for him because I was like, what's. What are we gonna say here?
- [53:56]
Paige DeSorbo
I was like. I was so nervous. I was like, the Gigglers are not. They're not to be managed. Like, this is a free for all.
- [54:02]
Hannah Berner
Like, the Gigglers are wound so tight by the end of the show, like, they would, like, throw stones at a man if they could. Like, they're just, like, in a. I.
- [54:13]
Paige DeSorbo
Saw an Instagram story and Jack says, like, hi. Like, hi, Paige and Hannah. Like, thanks for having us, because we, like, gave them tickets. Like, I knew what he meant. And some girl yelled, we didn't have you.
- [54:25]
Hannah Berner
Like, he was. I just was so scared. Like, he was. It was ballsy of him. And at one point, I was like, should we get Jax or Shorts up for Izzy Trash? And you were like, honestly, like, I don't think that's a good idea.
- [54:37]
Paige DeSorbo
I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was the smartest idea to give. We already give, like, a man too much attention by bringing them up on stage. I don't think. I didn't want to do anything more to piss the Gigglers off. And I was not in the mental state to even.
- [54:52]
Hannah Berner
Yeah, we were not mentally. So when he took the mic, I was like, oh, no. Oh, no. And then he, like, introduces Schwartz. So he was like, schwartz's opener. And I was like, okay, what's happening? Schwartz gets the mic, and then I immediately am trying to, like, make sure everyone's happy. So I'm like, schwartz, do you remember, like, seven years ago when we filmed Summer House together? He says, no.
- [55:12]
Paige DeSorbo
He goes, no. And then he tagged. He tagged the wrong Hannah. He tagged Hannah Ann from the Bachelorette. I didn't even notice it until I didn't notice it because he didn't Tag me.
- [55:24]
Hannah Berner
But then he DM me after and goes, sorry, I tagged the wrong Hannah. But anyway, he says no. And I was like, oh, God. And then he goes, are we trash? And honestly, that was.
- [55:36]
Paige DeSorbo
And the crowd went wild.
- [55:38]
Hannah Berner
The crowd went wild. That was the sweetest, most iconic, like, nailed it.
- [55:42]
Paige DeSorbo
And shout out to the boys. Yeah. It was so nice of them to come. Yeah, it truly, at the end of the day, was nice.
- [55:49]
Hannah Berner
Do you remember our first season? Was it our first season? I remember it was our first season where, like, back then at that time in Summer House, when you were a new cast member, like, you didn't really count, like, people didn't really talk to you.
- [56:01]
Paige DeSorbo
No one gave a fuck about you.
- [56:02]
Hannah Berner
We weren't even allowed to be on Watch what Happens Live. Our first season, we were bartenders. So like, when Vanderpump came in, we literally were like, we're not going to talk to them.
- [56:11]
Paige DeSorbo
They were like, I couldn't have been more starstruck by Stassi.
- [56:14]
Hannah Berner
I didn't make eye contact with Stassi. I was like, I do not want to at any time make Stassi feel uncomfortable.
- [56:20]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah, like, Stassi, she a three time bestseller.
- [56:27]
Hannah Berner
Bestseller. Incredible. But Schwartz came in and I remember now he came in with like, he was having a butthole problem because him.
- [56:36]
Paige DeSorbo
And Katie had just come back from Mexico. They'd all just come from Mexico, I think from a cast trip.
- [56:41]
Hannah Berner
And we were so excited. They were like, tom went to the hospital and we're like, what happened? They were like, his butthole ripped. And I'm saying that because it was on tv. It wasn't like a secret.
- [56:52]
Paige DeSorbo
And me and Hannah are looking at each other like, what did they do in Mexico? There's a lot of jokes to be made here, and we feel like we're not taking advantage of it and it's not appropriate.
- [57:00]
Hannah Berner
We were not allowed to speak like that.
- [57:02]
Paige DeSorbo
Really?
- [57:02]
Hannah Berner
How?
- [57:03]
Paige DeSorbo
Giggly Squad started giggling.
- [57:05]
Hannah Berner
We would say all the funny stuff in the bathroom alone and then come out and be like, yes.
- [57:09]
Paige DeSorbo
No. Giggly Squad started truly from being in awkward situations together and no one making the jokes that needed to be made to diffuse the situation. And we were like, we're gonna take it to the podcast.
- [57:21]
Hannah Berner
We literally had a joke my first season. We had a joke how one of the producers, they would, like, tell you, like, who they wanted in the scene. So sometimes, like, I'll just be hanging around. They'd be like, hannah, could you actually, could you go downstairs and go under the couch? Like, they'd Always be like, hannah, could you not? Like, I remember once someone was crying and I was consoling them, and they were like, hannah, could you. Could you just stop? Could you actually get out?
- [57:45]
Paige DeSorbo
We're actually gonna get out, just the two of them.
- [57:48]
Hannah Berner
Can you open the door and just keep walking into the highway? So then we. We kept joking with them. Like, they'd be like, hannah. And I'm like, should I jump off a bridge? Is that what I should do? So we've really grown and learned from.
- [57:59]
Paige DeSorbo
No. We've had so many inside jokes and, like, behind the scenes, just ridiculousness that I don't even know.
- [58:10]
Hannah Berner
I did. I did make a mistake in that I've. I don't know if I want to say it out loud, but I will. I've become a worm comedian. And I did it to myself.
- [58:22]
Paige DeSorbo
Everyone was like, slapstick comedian.
- [58:25]
Hannah Berner
Everyone was like, is that what it is? Literally, the people who were in charge were like, we don't understand why you have to do the worm at the beginning of your Netflix special. And I was like, you clearly don't understand me. You don't support women in the arts. You've never seen something like this before. And I'm, like, changing the game. Yeah. But then the gigglers keep chanting to do the worm. And I have. I will succumb to peer pressure, like, for way less than 3000 girls yelling my name.
- [58:50]
Paige DeSorbo
Right?
- [58:50]
Hannah Berner
So the first night, I'm wearing a full, like, bubble skirt.
- [58:55]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah.
- [58:56]
Hannah Berner
And I go, okay, let's do it. The second I do the worm, the skirt goes over my head.
- [59:01]
Paige DeSorbo
I mean, what else was it gonna do? I don't know.
- [59:04]
Hannah Berner
I was, like, hoping that it wouldn't. And then I immediately was like, I'm Addison Rae in Diet Pepsi. And I start, like, flashing the crowd with. Also, guys, I'm wearing full white Amazon granny panties. Like, people. I think a guy puked in the front. Like, he was like, what is this? You were, like, already having a pan attack. So you didn't even notice that my ass came out?
- [59:24]
Paige DeSorbo
I didn't notice that your ass came out until I saw a video from, like, the other angle of, like, what the crowd saw.
- [59:31]
Hannah Berner
You didn't even know you were on stage?
- [59:33]
Paige DeSorbo
No.
- [59:35]
Hannah Berner
And then when the other shows, a girl raises her hand, she's like, can I do the worm with you on stage? So I was like, obviously.
- [59:42]
Paige DeSorbo
So good.
- [59:43]
Hannah Berner
So good. Somehow we do it perfectly synchronized, like dolphins.
- [59:46]
Paige DeSorbo
No, you were literally Olympic, like, synchronized swimmers. It was nuts.
- [59:50]
Hannah Berner
So I pulled my lower back and tore my acl. But like, the show must go on.
- [59:56]
Paige DeSorbo
No, the show must go on. And, oh, my God, I just. Like, I'm so thankful for the gigglers. And so, like, if you guys have anxiety, like, just listen to my dad. Like, literally just keep going. Because the worst thing you can do is let it win and, like, succumb to it and not do what you're meant to do. And I think that's, like, really powerful.
- [60:21]
Hannah Berner
Also, now that it's happened once, you can start realizing, like, oh, this is my anxiety, which isn't me. Like, when I was younger, I literally would get, like, a scary thought, and I'd be like, this is true. Like, yeah, the thought came to me for a reason, and now I have to address it and give it energy and listen, where now you hear a thought and you go, you stupid bitch. Can you please. Can we not right now?
- [60:44]
Paige DeSorbo
And also, I just want to say one thing. Like, obviously, I was taking medicine that, like, was not prescribed for me. Like, because I had to do it. I was, like, raw dogging it. I am obviously gonna go to, like, a legitimate doctor, get, like, a prescription for myself of, like, what I could possibly need. And I think it's, like, so important, because a perfect example is I took half a Xanax at one point because I didn't have a beta blocker, and it was not for me. And so, like, I think even knowing certain things, like, that is really important, too, because, yeah, you can get fucked up and your thoughts can get really scary. Like, even when I had, like, surgery on my ovaries, I think I was on, like, oxies for, like, pain management, I did not like them at all. They made me super emotional. I had the craziest, weirdest, intrusive thoughts. Like, I did not like it. And the same with Xanax. Like, I. It just was not for me. So if you are, like, dealing with anxiety, it's really important for, like, you to find something that works for your body, because it's definitely not one fits all at all.
- [61:50]
Hannah Berner
Yeah. And we're not literally telling everyone to get off their birth control and go on SSRIs. Like, that's not what we're saying. But for me, like, I would go on them when I was in, like, an intense, crazy time, and then I would get off them. But I do have to say, for anyone who's scared of it, like, changing your personality. For me, I'm on, like, a little bit of Prozac, and it just, like, quiets the voices that aren't yours. Like, I'm Actually, more myself. But it's also, like, you can get off of them. Like, you have to get off slowly, but, like, you find what's right for you.
- [62:22]
Paige DeSorbo
And it's definitely a journey and a process, and I'm definitely going to be starting it.
- [62:27]
Hannah Berner
You have to be also, like, eating better. Like, you can't just. You have to be getting sunlight. You have to be talking to a therapist.
- [62:36]
Paige DeSorbo
The other thing, like, being on tour, like, it's not healthy. It's so rewarding, but it's not the healthiest thing for you. Like, your body. Like, we're on a plane every single day, which is, like, already dehydrating you. We get into a hotel, they have the grossest food ever. Like, it's very. Like, we try and get as many Caesar salads as we can, but, like, it's hard. And then with anxiety, like, the type of anxiety that I have, like, I lose all my appetite. Like, I have to force myself to, like, have a piece of toast because I literally can't stomach it because I feel like I'm gonna throw up. So.
- [63:10]
Hannah Berner
But also, like, when you go on stage and you're calm, like, you're gonna be so proud of yourself and feel so strong and like.
- [63:16]
Paige DeSorbo
Yeah, it's just.
- [63:17]
Hannah Berner
It's.
- [63:18]
Paige DeSorbo
It just makes me answer. I was proud of myself after la, like, to doing two shows and then, like, going back to my hotel room, I was, like, so dizzy. But I was like.
- [63:28]
Hannah Berner
I saw this guy on Instagram and he was saying how, like, empathic people, empaths are, like, good at performing because we can read a room really well. But that's why sometimes when we're around too many people, we take in too much. But then I was thinking, and I was like, is it that, or do you just always think people are judging you and you think you know how everyone's feeling around you?
- [63:54]
Paige DeSorbo
No, I think it's an inherent, like, inner. Like, you always. Well, here's the other thing. Everyone is staring at us because we are up on stage. So, yeah, you do feel like, oh, my God, there's 3,000 people looking at me. I hope that each. Every person in there is having a good time and is happy and likes it. And that's just that. Well, that just can never happen. Like, there's going to be at least a couple of people.
- [64:17]
Hannah Berner
Like, no, everyone loves it. But that's.
- [64:21]
Paige DeSorbo
But that's definitely a thought. No, and that's good. And I need to more because, yeah, like, you do feel judged.
- [64:32]
Hannah Berner
You can't control every. And the Only thing you can control is that you're having fun. And I always say, people don't remember what you said. They remember how you made them feel. Like people aren't leaving. Some of them will leave Giggly Squad and be like, that line was so good. But overall, they're just like, I love the fucking energy of Giggly Squad. And, you know, sometimes we do bring bad energy to the function.
- [64:53]
Paige DeSorbo
No, I. We showed up to the function, and I said, this is the energy. I'm bringing this.
- [64:59]
Hannah Berner
But we.
- [65:00]
Paige DeSorbo
My mom literally used. My mom literally used voice dress today on the phone. I, like, told her I had to do something this week, and she goes, just, you know what? Say you're on voice rest. That you literally can't go. And I was like, okay, that is now a real trend.
- [65:16]
Hannah Berner
Just know that whatever energy you bring to the function is not forever. And no, we'd be like, be in the Uber. And Paige is like, dry heaving. And I'd be like, so how. What's the most popular restaurant around here? To the Uber driver.
- [65:34]
Paige DeSorbo
No. You were being so normal in so many situations. And I was like.
- [65:39]
Hannah Berner
I was like, that's just. She just has an itch in her throat.
- [65:42]
Paige DeSorbo
I was like, do I have a will? I need a will because I'm not.
- [65:45]
Hannah Berner
Gonna make it much longer. You thought you had, like, a cancerous. Like, oh, I thought I had a.
- [65:51]
Paige DeSorbo
Cancerous tumor on the back of my neck.
- [65:53]
Hannah Berner
You did. That's when I was like, I feel like something that was a warning.
- [65:58]
Paige DeSorbo
Something might be a miss. That was the first thing I was like, I think I have a tumor on the back of my neck, but I'm just gonna ride it out and see what happens.
- [66:04]
Hannah Berner
I go, I feel like if you had a cancerous tumor in the back of your neck, you would. I feel like you would know by now.
- [66:11]
Paige DeSorbo
You're like, I'm pretty sure it's your spine, but, like, we'll definitely get that checked out at some point.
- [66:16]
Hannah Berner
Anyway, guys, thank you so much for giggling with us this week. I think it's important for us to have a full mental health episode every couple months when one of us has a mental breakdown. Breakdown. And one thing is, we will always be honest with you guys. We will never come on here talking that fake shit, being like, oh, my God, like, life is so easy and fun.
- [66:42]
Paige DeSorbo
Life is so crazy. No.
- [66:44]
Hannah Berner
Yeah.
- [66:44]
Paige DeSorbo
Like, I want to die every second and just get a cat. Like, truly, the only advice I can give is get a cat.
- [66:52]
Hannah Berner
And I do have to say this was therapeutic because as gigglers. We will find the funny in everything because you can't take life too seriously or you'll not make it. So thank you for giggling. We love you guys. And get tickets for show in Atlantic City coming up.
- [67:13]
Paige DeSorbo
Free beta Bloggers at the door.
- [67:15]
Hannah Berner
Go to a Giggy Squad show because honestly, we all can have panic attacks together.
- [67:20]
Paige DeSorbo
That's what Club Giggly is about. It's not like other clubs. There is no cocaine. There is no Molly's. There is only Prozac, Xanax.
- [67:28]
Hannah Berner
You can leave at any time. You can take a nap.
- [67:31]
Paige DeSorbo
If you're overstimulated, you get yourself right out of there.
- [67:36]
Hannah Berner
It is a safe space for the gigglers. We love you guys. Have an amazing week. Bye.