Giggling about breakups, blisters, and public meltdowns

Summary

Giggly Squad with Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo

Episode: Giggling about breakups, blisters, and public meltdowns
Date: January 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this hilariously candid episode, Hannah and Paige catch up after holiday chaos, diving into their signature blend of personal stories, relatable meltdowns, and sharp pop-culture commentary. The main themes revolve around the messiness of adult friendships (including breakups and reconciliation), public embarrassment, evolving fashion habits, and navigating awkward social situations. True to their brand, the duo makes fun of themselves and each other, offering a comedic but sincere take on modern womanhood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fashion Anxiety and New Studio Vibes

• Moving studios means more pressure to dress up, as full-body YouTube shots leave no room for hiding in sweats.
• Both express feeling judged for their podcast looks (and Paige’s mom gently roasting her “mess” appearance).
• Quote: "My mom’s like, you love outfits, you love clothes. Why do you show up to Giggly Squad and you always look a mess?" – Paige (02:06)

2. Tour Stress & Second Stand-Up Special

• Hannah's prepping for a multi-city comedy tour and her second comedy special taping in Toronto (after Philly’s Netflix special).
• She jokes about beta blockers and feeling “in psychosis” before her last special.
• Quote: "The two weeks before I shoot the special, I'm going to be in psychosis... I'm going to be like—so in my head." – Hannah (04:53)

3. Podcast Outfits and Persona

• Paige and Hannah discuss the dissonance between their on-mic personas and “real-life” looks: Giggly Squad is for comfort, not constructed persona.
• Quote: "I can’t be in an outfit I’d socialize in because that’s a persona of me. That’s fake." – Paige (06:15)

4. Personal Embarrassment: Public Fart Story

• Hannah recounts farting loudly at a serene Miami coffee shop, trying to play it cool as her husband Des snitches.
• Paige says she would “risk her stomach exploding” before farting in public, while Hannah defends normalizing “women taking up space.”
• Memorable Moment:
  • "If you don't react, a man will be blamed." – Hannah (07:27)
  • "Women need to take up space." – Hannah (11:36)

5. Connecting with Old Friends and Socializing in Your 30s

• Paige discusses the nuances of reuniting with college friends—how initial attempts to “impress” fade quickly, leading to real talk about life and relationships.
• Both agree that socializing with the right women is mentally healthy.
• Quote: "There’s something—when you’re in your 30s and see a friend from your 20s, you instinctually feel you have to impress them... but true friends are just like 'okay, what's really going on?'" – Paige (10:09)

6. Men’s Friendships vs. Women’s Friendships

• After Des befriends a newly single man (potential setup for Paige), Paige jokes: "I want my future husband to stalk me."
• Frustration that men won’t ask personal questions, while women “know everything” about each other after a minute in the bathroom together.
• Quote: "Men, they respect each other’s privacy in a way that is stupid. I don’t respect." – Hannah (15:20)

7. Friendship Breakups & Reconciliation

• Lively reflection on the pain of female friendship breakups, why they hurt ("they really loved you for you"), and whether people actually change with age and therapy.
• Paige shares her mom’s advice: “People don’t change,” yet admits sometimes growth is possible.
• Both share formative stories of former best friends and the lingering emotional impacts.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Love and hate are close. Me and this girl were so close and then it was literally like a breakup.” – Hannah (22:34)
  • "If a girl came back to me as a friend, I’d be more into it. But you never be my best friend again." – Paige (23:06)

8. Workplace Politics and Ambition

• Hannah reads about how promotions often go to “safe” workers, not necessarily the most creative—a point both ruefully muse on.
• Personal anecdotes of getting fired and the growth that comes after professional rejection.
• Quote: "Getting fired as a people pleaser has been the biggest growth for me as a human in my heart and soul." – Hannah (30:45)

9. Sisterhood, Honesty, and Moms as Best Friends

• Paige reflects on TikToks about sisters being brutally honest: since she lacks a sister, her mom (Kim) has filled that role with relentless, constructive truth.
• Quote: "I've been told the truth ten times more than any sister out there." – Paige (36:55)

10. Shopping, Blisters, and the Pain of Ballet Flats

• Hilarious recounting of a shopping mall memory and a recent incident: Paige’s fancy new ballet flats (outlet steal!) literally wreck her feet after a Giggly walk—12 blisters.
• Quote: "Don’t listen to your friends when they want to walk or exercise because they’re tricking you." – Paige (44:16)

11. Social Media Strategy: Comedy and Rage-Baiting

• Hannah reveals her online posting strategy: only two types, “what will make the gigglers laugh?” and “what will rage-bait Paige.”
• Quote: "Those are the only two posts... some rage-bait and make the gigglers laugh. But that's all I post." – Hannah (45:17)

12. Pop Culture and Viral Public Meltdowns

• Discussion of Jennifer Lawrence’s controversial “dog bites baby” story and internet backlash (49:09–50:36).
• Paige admits she checks comments “nervously” after these viral moments.

13. Public Confrontations & Meltdowns

• Paige and Hannah dissect a viral video of a man complaining about singing at a Broadway play and the etiquette of confronting public rudeness.
• Hannah shares an in-person airplane confrontation—someone tossed Des's jacket, leading to righteous indignation.
• Quote: "Your bin is not assigned or they’d have numbers on the bins... It’s first come, first serve." – Hannah (54:16)

14. Child Honesty: Compliments and Savage Remarks

• Mutual agreement: the “best” (and most devastating) comments come from kids under five.
• Quote: "But also, the most painful remarks can come from a child under five. They can break you." – Hannah (56:14)
• Paige: "If I don’t have a daughter, I’ll kill myself." (57:50, jokingly)

15. Fashion Clean-Outs and Personal Style Ruts

• Both struggle with wanting to throw out their entire wardrobes but fearing regret.
• Kim’s test (Paige’s mom): “If you’d be jealous seeing someone else wear it, then wear it.”
• Paige encourages Hannah to show off her body and embrace a new silhouette.
• Quote: "It really annoys me that you never show your boobs." – Paige (61:31)

16. Jersey Shore, Reality TV Nostalgia & Formal Apology

• The hosts revisit Jersey Shore, acknowledging missing the abuse dynamics as teens and “gaslighting” Sammy Sweetheart by not supporting her on the show.
• Quote: "We need to do a formal apology to Sammy Sweetheart because she was enduring... If that aired now, he'd immediately be obviously removed from the show." – Paige (64:36)

17. Relationship Red Flags & Knowing When To Leave

• Heartfelt discussion about breakups: inspired by a TikTok couple split after cheating, both say “leave immediately” once you know or feel bad in a relationship.
• Quote: "If a man makes you feel ugly at any moment, even if you are ugly in that moment, leave him." – Hannah (65:40)
• "Don’t feel bad for staying. You’ll be fine." – Paige (67:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

| Timestamp | Quote / Event | Speaker | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | 02:06 | “My mom’s like, you love outfits, you love clothes. Why do you show up… looking a mess?” | Paige | | 04:53 | “The two weeks before I shoot the special… I'm going to be in psychosis.” | Hannah | | 06:15 | “I can't be in an outfit… because that’s a Persona of me. Yeah, that's fake.” | Paige | | 07:27 | “If you don't react, a man will be blamed.” | Hannah | | 10:09 | "There’s something—when you’re in your 30s... you instinctually feel you have to impress…" | Paige | | 11:36 | “Women need to take up space.” | Hannah | | 15:20 | "Men, they respect each other’s privacy in a way that is stupid. I don’t respect." | Hannah | | 18:38 | "Every girl has had one friendship breakup where you're like, that was my canon event." | Paige | | 22:34 | “Love and hate are close... it was literally a breakup.” | Hannah | | 23:06 | “You never be my best friend again.” | Paige | | 30:45 | “Getting fired as a people pleaser has been the biggest growth for me.” | Hannah | | 36:55 | "I've been told the truth ten times more than any sister out there." | Paige | | 44:16 | "Don’t listen to your friends when they want to walk or exercise because they’re tricking you." | Paige | | 45:17 | "Those are the only two posts... some rage-bait and make the gigglers laugh. But that's all I post." | Hannah | | 49:09 | (On Jennifer Lawrence dog controversy) | Both | | 56:14 | “But also, the most painful remarks can come from a child under five. They can break you.” | Hannah | | 61:31 | "It really annoys me that you never show your boobs." | Paige | | 64:36 | "We need to do a formal apology to Sammy Sweetheart because she was enduring... If that aired now, he'd immediately be obviously removed from the show." | Paige | | 65:40 | "If a man makes you feel ugly at any moment, even if you are ugly in that moment, leave him." | Hannah | | 67:22 | "Don’t feel bad for staying. You’ll be fine." | Paige |

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Memorable Segments & Timestamps

• [06:43] – [13:11]: Embarrassing public fart story; why Paige would “risk stomach explosion” instead.
• [15:07] – [22:59]: The emotional impact of friendship breakups and whether people change.
• [29:30] – [31:07]: Real talk about women at work, promotions, and getting fired.
• [36:42] – [37:21]: The value of honesty from sisters (or moms as sister-substitutes).
• [40:26] – [44:16]: Blister-gate: Paige’s ballet flat disaster.
• [53:10] – [54:41]: Airplane overhead bin meltdown (“Don’t touch my stuff!”).
• [64:33] – [65:40]: Jersey Shore, abusive relationships, and the “Sammy sweetheart formal apology.”
• [66:31] – [67:22]: TikTok cheating scandal and advice on breakup/leave moments.

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Tone & Style

Warm, unfiltered, and self-deprecating, Hannah and Paige blend outrageous confessions with genuine advice. Their conversational style makes listeners feel like they're giggling over wine with close friends. They rapidly shift from slapstick to sincere, weaving in personal growth amidst the chaos of blisters, breakups, and public meltdowns.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• It’s okay to have embarrassing moments, friendship drama, and fashion fails—own them and laugh.
• Friendships can hurt as much (or more) than romantic breakups, and sometimes reconnection is possible, if never quite the same.
• If someone (especially a partner) makes you feel bad about yourself, don’t stick around for more.
• Childhood honesty is a blessing and a curse; outlet shopping is war; never trust a friend who wants to walk if you’re in ballet flats.
• Public meltdowns, social anxiety, and modern etiquette are universal; you’re not alone in feeling awkward or overwhelmed.

Next up: The girls tease a Friday episode for more giggles and possibly more blisters.

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For anyone who missed it: This episode blends the best of Giggly Squad—deeply relatable stories, sisterly advice, and unapologetic humor—making it a must-listen for anyone navigating modern adulthood (or just in need of a good laugh).

Transcript

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

[Paige]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah]

What is up my gravitational giggler?

[Paige]

It's a new one. It's a good one.

[Hannah]

So we did our first second episode.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And we. If you guys haven't noticed, we're in a new studio and our youtubes now have full bodies and I am just crumbling under the pressure of getting an outfit together for this because we're used.

[Paige]

To having a table in front of us. And also I see so many people do like podcast clips and I'm like, oh shoot, they blew their hair out. They put on a good outfit and then everyone. And then my mom's like, you love outfits, you love clothes. Why do you show up to Giggly Squad and you always look a mess?

[Hannah]

Well, you pretended to work out this morning.

[Paige]

Pretended to work out this Morning. Also, I'm one week before my periods. My boobs are, like, huge.

[Hannah]

Yeah, yeah. Take advantage.

[Paige]

What was I just saying?

[Hannah]

Well, I dressed up like a 90s bully. Yeah.

[Paige]

But Hannah said something so. Not Hannah. She was like, let's say what our outfits are. Where. Where does one even get that T shirt?

[Hannah]

This is a brand called Only New York. And then I'm actually wearing these. A gold. A Goldie Alda.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Jeans Barrel.

[Paige]

Okay. Thank you for leaving the best for last. What? The Heller on your feet. I've never seen a Mary Jane Adidas. I didn't even know they made those.

[Hannah]

Look, I don't do ballet flats unless you can run and see. And sorry, for all you audio listeners. You got to go to YouTube.

[Paige]

That's a diabolical shoe. And you want to know what? When I was with you, the other, like, Velcro.

[Hannah]

Sorry, I don't want to tie my shoe like an adult.

[Paige]

I actually meant to bring this up to you the other day, because, finger down, I had to run downstairs and I couldn't find my shoes on, like, Tuesday when we hung out. And so I put yours on. And as I slipped them on, I was like, what the fuck are these? I've never.

[Hannah]

There's some people, like, I can't. When I see a traditional shoe, I'm like, I can't work with this. Like, I need otherworldly shapes.

[Paige]

No, because, like, when a heel croc came out, I was like, that's like a joke. I thought they were doing, like, a.

[Hannah]

A bit April Fool's joke.

[Paige]

Like, oh, my God, look, we do heels. Not really. It's just for, like, the shoot. And you were like, when buying them. I have all the jibbit.

[Hannah]

Like, the Hannah coated girls send me the craziest sneaker heels all the time. And I'm like, thank you, Bot.

[Paige]

Someone sent me orthopedic heels.

[Hannah]

Was it you? Actually, that's just orthopedic heels and cats on my feed. Yeah.

[Paige]

You said you have a lot to talk about. Yeah.

[Hannah]

Real quick, just promo. Paige and I have been hanging out.

[Paige]

No, it's actually not good for the business of the podcast.

[Hannah]

I have no motivation. But I have to go back on tour. Not have to. It's game time. I just have to get out of vacation mode to go on tour. I'm going to Idaho on Wednesday, so Idaho, all over Colorado, Louisiana. San Francisco, Seattle, Nashville, Atlanta, Durham, Charlotte, Indianapolis, Milwaukee. We're going. So I'm about to black out for two months, and then I shoot the Hulu special. February 28th in Toronto.

[Paige]

Now are you going to take a beta blocker?

[Hannah]

Yeah, I'm about to. I warn you guys, the two weeks before I shoot the special special, I'm going to be in psychosis. Like yeah, I'm be talking the pod, but I'm going to be like.

[Paige]

So in my head I've never seen you like nervous for anything. Except the week before you did your special, you were not yourself at all.

[Hannah]

No, I had to like apologize to people. When I walked in a room I'm like, hey, I'm going to be weird. I don't know who I am or.

[Paige]

What I'm doing though.

[Hannah]

I do think though, cuz it's my second special, I know what to expect and it's going to make me a lot more comp. The Netflix thing, it's like I've never filmed a special so I just ever everything that could go wrong. I was like worried about going wrong repeatedly in my head for every day. And anyway, it was a dark existence. But I'm now we're back, we're back. And I'm like, why don't we do it again? No, but I'm like, I feel a lot better. Yeah.

[Paige]

And where are you filming it again?

[Hannah]

Toronto.

[Paige]

Oh, right, right, right.

[Hannah]

Toronto. The Toronto girls are amazing, insane.

[Paige]

And you filmed it last time in Philly.

[Hannah]

In Philly, yeah. I love how also you get off on and you're comfortable exercise outfit. Looking at me going, so where you have to go?

[Paige]

I'm like, wow, I have no plans this week. Maybe I'll wear my pink workout set tomorrow.

[Hannah]

But don't worry, Giggly Squad, you know I'm gonna get your ass back.

[Paige]

Okay. So are we. Was this weird like gonna up our outfits or. No, we're gonna stay ourselves.

[Hannah]

I. I only have so much to give to this world.

[Paige]

I just feel like when I do Giggly Squad, I can't be in an outfit that I would normally socialize in or go out in because that's a Persona of me.

[Hannah]

Yeah, that's fake.

[Paige]

That's a fake person that you meet on this character that I wrote that I've created. Okay.

[Hannah]

She has made up motives and plot lines.

[Paige]

She's annoying, honestly. Okay. With her ballet flats. She's annoying. Anyhow.

[Hannah]

No, I have a lot for us to talk about. Well, okay, let's get the gross stuff out. Okay. I did something so embarrassing this morning. I was at a nice coffee shop with my husband. Yep. It was really quiet. Birds chirping. It's like 8:30am and I decided to get a croissant.

[Paige]

Yep.

[Hannah]

And immediately I felt like I had to fart.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

And. But it was like a little one.

[Paige]

Are you in line?

[Hannah]

No, I'm sitting at a table.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Inside, but out outdoors. Oh, okay.

[Paige]

Outdoors.

[Hannah]

And I feel like I have to fart. So it's outdoors. It's a free country. And it was like a little one. But you know when it's a little one and somehow it comes out like with a trumpet. Like the smaller it is, the like louder it is and like the higher.

[Paige]

Pitch it is, I'd actually kill myself.

[Hannah]

My husband. And he goes, and Hannah. I don't react because that's. Look, as a girl, if you don't react, a man will be blamed. So I just sit there and Des, is this actually my, like, least favorite part about him? He's one of those people's like, you farted. Like, it's.

[Paige]

He's like a call out person.

[Hannah]

He's a snitch. I'm like, whose team are you on?

[Paige]

Wait, I didn't see that for him.

[Hannah]

Because he thinks it's funny.

[Paige]

The only time I've ever been like does is like one time you were telling his story and he was like, that's not what happened. Tell it right now.

[Hannah]

No, he does that. He. No, that's exactly.

[Paige]

This is. This is. She's performing.

[Hannah]

Listen to the last episode. My biggest pet peeve is I say a story and he goes, no, that's not what happened. And I go, oh my God, I was adding Jenna Sequoia.

[Paige]

Yeah, you were adding spice.

[Hannah]

And he's like. And he's a well fun part of the store. I can't be part of your lie. And I go, lie. That was a fucking incredible monologue.

[Paige]

And sprinkles on it. Like, give me a break.

[Hannah]

So he also.

[Paige]

It's.

[Hannah]

There's a thing with relationships. We're at the point where like even yesterday we were going to get dinner with you. And he. I was like, I want to be early. And he's like, you only like to be early around Paige. And I'm like, well, I respect her.

[Paige]

I can't believe you said that. Because literally right before we were going to dinner, I was like, oh, well, Hannah's not going to be on time. She's always like 10 minutes late.

[Hannah]

So does was like his page going to be late. And I'm like, she's going to be early or like exactly on time. And it was a 30 minute drive. And I was like, I'm not risking. And he literally goes, you act so different with Paige. I was like, sorry, we never go out to dinner. And, like, this is a big deal for me.

[Paige]

I haven't socialized in New York in three years, and I've gone out every single night in Miami. I'm like, I'm calling friends I haven't talked to in 10 years. Wait, this actually, literally the other day, I was, like, texting a girlfriend that I knew in college. And we've. We've been friends since college, but we're not the type of friends where I'm like, what are you doing this weekend? We're the type of friends. We're like, every two months, we'll, like, check in or something, but it's never.

[Hannah]

Like, deep, deep words, story replier.

[Paige]

We're casual friends. Then I had another girlfriend who I've been also friends with for 10 years. Haven't seen her in probably, like, five. But again, like, we keep up with each other. Like, we'll talk every once in a while, whatever. All three of us hung out, and every woman has the same experience all the time. Like, we're just all the same. Like, we all sat down and we were like, oh, my God. Like, how are you? Like, what's going on? And then the first girl goes, well, I'm so annoyed with my husband.

[Hannah]

Okay, well, you want to hear what I'm dealing with?

[Paige]

And I was like, okay, this took 4 minutes and 30 seconds. And we're back.

[Hannah]

Wait, can I say something?

[Paige]

No, Wait. It felt. No, I'm not finished. It felt so relieving. Because there's something. When you're in your 30s and you see a friend from your 20s, instinctually, you're like, well, I'm so different. And this is how. But also, I'm still the same. And you almost feel like you have to impress them a little bit. But when they're, like, your true friends, it's like, okay, what's, like, really going on? And you're like, okay, well, actually. And it felt so nice.

[Hannah]

We hate socializing. But I realize now when you're socializing with the right people, it's good for your mental health because they're a mirror. So, like, it's healthy for you to see how other people see you, especially when you see yourself, like, sometimes. Yes. So to see other people be like, wait, but me too. Like, we're the same is. Is mentally healthy. So. Yeah.

[Paige]

And there's, like, times where you're like, only I feel this, and only I'm going through this, and I can't tell anyone because they're going to think I'm weird or. Or like, whatever. And then you say it and you finish your sentence.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And they're like, yeah, I. I dealt with that last week.

[Hannah]

Literally yesterday. This morning. That was like, us with the gigglers when you had a panic attack. And I was like, who had a panic attack this week? And they were like, 1, 2, 3.

[Paige]

Me.

[Hannah]

So I fart at the coffee shop. Oh, right. And I try not to pull. And Des is staring at me. I got film staring at me. And he goes, did you just. And I. And I start going. I start laughing. He goes, are you. Oh, my God.

[Paige]

The confidence. You even have to do that. Like, I would have literally risked.

[Hannah]

Women need to take up space.

[Paige]

I would have literally risked my stomach exploding inside my body.

[Hannah]

This is the thing. I'm an avid farter, so, like, I know the ways to get around it. I got unlucky where there was no bird chirping in that moment. And he was, like, dead silent. I'm just in New York City, okay? You can fart anywhere in New York City, and you are. There's a fucking, like, building exploding. And of course I could fart in New York City. We're in Miami, and there's, like, no one. Everything is peaceful.

[Paige]

You can do anything on the street of New York City. Like, I'm not kidding.

[Hannah]

Eject al vomit. And no one would know.

[Paige]

And people would just be like, are you okay? Okay.

[Hannah]

So he looks at me, and then he starts looking around. I'm like, stop. And he starts starting laughing. He goes, those people heard.

[Paige]

100%, Hannah. 100%. This is the reality. This is the public. We're out on this. Like, yeah, they heard.

[Hannah]

They have ears. So then I'm like, we have to go now.

[Paige]

Yeah, I would assume so.

[Hannah]

I'm like, I have a whole sandwich left. But I was like, we have to go.

[Paige]

The owner's, like, walking out. Like, you do have to go.

[Hannah]

Excuse me, ma'.

[Paige]

Am.

[Hannah]

We don't have. There's too many hot people. Miami. You can't do this. But I look back, and the girl has her AirPods in, and I'm like, does she have AirPods? And we're good. And he goes, no, it was the family over there. And I'm like, oh, family. We got to go, Paul.

[Paige]

They're trying to have a vacation.

[Hannah]

So we left. Also not to call does out again. But speaking of you talking to your friends and having this amazing, beautiful connection. This. I have to say, what happened? I'm at breakfast. And this. I love that.

[Paige]

Four years of this podcast. Every story that you've told. I'm at dinner. I'm at breakfast.

[Hannah]

So I'm at this lunch. My life surrounds meals. Okay? So this particular meal at breakfast, and this handsome guy walks by.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And he looks at me and I'm like, obviously, I'm so good looking. And he goes, hey, can you give Paige my number?

[Paige]

Stop.

[Hannah]

And I was like, I kind of like pause, cuz I'm your gatekeeper.

[Paige]

And I was like, wait, oh, you told me that. Yes, I think he DM'd me.

[Hannah]

And I said, well, I just looked at him and I was like, why are you single? Cuz he's 36, handsome. What happened? And he's like, I'm going through a separation. And I was like, I'm a wife.

[Paige]

Or like, like, who knows?

[Hannah]

But the man is bleeding out. He's vulnerable. I said, okay, we'll see what we could do.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

But then the next day, does does wakes up like at the crack of dawn, comes back to the hotel room at like 10am and I'm like slowly getting up. And he's like, I just hung out with that guy for like an hour at the coffee shop. And I was so immediately I go.

[Paige]

So my future husband has already. You want to know what? That's what I want from a future husband. I want you to stalk me. I want you to change your name, infiltrate my life, be like, I've been obsessed with you for years. You want to you what?

[Hannah]

So immediately I'm like, this is amazing. I'm about to get like so much tea. I go, so what happened with the separation? Does goes, what he got? He going through a separation. Like, what's happening? He goes, no, we talked about cars. He goes, I'm not asking about his personal life. I go, if a girl was going through a separation and she was just washing her hands in the bathroom, I would know about it. If I'm in an elevator with a girl who's going through a separation, I would smell it and be like, that dude. And she'd be like, I know you know what he did. And I go, tell me what he did. There are girls in my DMS who have told me more details.

[Paige]

Wait, now my DMS from the girls are like, hey, I know you said on the pod don't DM you about your boyfriend problem because you're just gonna say break up with him. But listen to this one. But it's the same answer.

[Hannah]

So anyway, men, they like respect each other's. Privacy in a way that is stupid I don't respect.

[Paige]

You want to know what it's in a selfish way.

[Hannah]

Well, cuz they never had to in life. They never had to be like, I need help. Yeah.

[Paige]

Okay. I've been dying to talk about it since we started. Since we talked about it on the pod last time. The toxic mom group. I just love it.

[Hannah]

So this is my problem. I can't get myself to read a full cut article because the words are so small and I.

[Paige]

Wait, they're so small. Why did they do that?

[Hannah]

Keeping, like, what I'd do with my time. Oh, I'll read Ashley Tisdale's article now. And I can't get to it. I can't do it. Did you read it?

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

Okay, so without reading the article, what's the current update?

[Paige]

Well, there was this article that I did read that was like, I think, like page six or something.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

About Ashley Tisdale and Vanessa Hutchins and how they used to be really good friends, which I completely forgot that they were, like, always, but even after.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And then I feel like Covid happened and then I, like, forgot about them. But the article said that when Austin Butler broke up with Vanessa, Ashley stayed better friends with Austin because they were all friends and Vanessa felt like she supported him more. So then they stopped talking.

[Hannah]

Wow.

[Paige]

And when I read that, I was just like, you know what's so crazy is, like, you're in high school, up happens to you. You, like, learn about different people's personalities. What? Like, friendship is like. And you're like, ugh, I never have to deal with that again. Then you get to college, you have one year where like, you're just like, no, I'm switching all my. Why was I friends with them? Or like, something happens and you're like, I'll never deal with that again because I'm not in school. Like, now I'm an adult. I'm in the work place.

[Hannah]

You're gonna say workforce. I was. We are in the workforce.

[Paige]

We are in the workforce. Then you get to an office and you're like, wait a minute, dude, office politics. Offices are so scary. Then you're like, okay, whatever. That's like a professional. It's not in my personal life. I don't have to deal with it. Every stage of a woman's life, I feel like there's some type of situation where, like, you have to. It's just like something happens with your friends. We're met. Where I actually applaud the men for that because you Never hear of that. You never hear of guys being like, he was my best friend all growing up. And then something happened in college. We never spoke again. So I actually, like, admire that about their friendships. Okay. Yeah. They don't talk to each other.

[Hannah]

They don't know anything about it. There's marriages where it's like, well, they don't sleep in the same bed, so obviously they can stay together. Like, they haven't seen each other. Okay. Yeah. Like, I'm judging, but it's like, when. But men do. Like, even if you look at, like, tennis matches, like, the women are not friends on tour. Like, after a match where something goes wrong, I'm like, well, I'll never speak to her again. Where men will literally, like, sleep with each other's girlfriends, get in a physical altercation, and then be like, it's okay, bro. I'll see you tomorrow.

[Paige]

Like, oh, literally, I'll see you tomorrow. I don't know how they do that, but also, I feel like there is, like, every girl has had one friendship breakup where you're like, that was my canon event.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Because she. When a girl doesn't want to be friends with you, it hurts more because she really loved you for you. Like, she wasn't having sex with you exactly. Like, you weren't, like, tricking her with your.

[Paige]

You don't like my personality.

[Hannah]

You genuinely know my heart and my soul. You know me more than my boyfriend, and you're like, oh, see my vagina? As much.

[Paige]

Like, since you went to, like, non traditional. Like, you didn't have a traditional high school experience, did you? Have you ever had, like, a big friendship breakup where, like, you were friends with that person for a really long time, and then one day, it was.

[Hannah]

Just, like, the only friendship breakups I ever had was reality tv, which, honestly.

[Paige]

Not real.

[Hannah]

It's not real. But it also is kind of harsh because it was like, your entire friend group. One day, they're like, and you're out.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, I've never lost, like, seven people like that before.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

I have. We have actually much of that.

[Paige]

I thought you're gonna be like, no, not really.

[Hannah]

But, like, since then, I've never had. I've. I've definitely had, like, growing apart because, like, someone starts having a family or.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

Someone leaves jobs.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

I have a question for you that I think people might connect to.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Everyone has that, like, friend who might have, like, partied a little too hard in their 20s. Yeah. And may have, like, pissed off a lot of people and, like, was a lot of drama. But then we're at the point now in our 30s where a lot of these people have got done work on themselves. They're sobering up and they're, they're kind of like reemerging into people's lives. Like, hey, sorry. When I was 24 and was in a K hole now, now I'm 33 and I did ayahuasca and I, I reflected, um, do you let these people back into your lives? Wow. And this is a very, you know, general question because I have friends who have like, used to party really hard and like, didn't do a lot of healthy things and may have hurt people.

[Paige]

This is a very polarizing statement, I'm going to say. But my mom has like said it since I was little, so I don't really care. And it actually isn't whatever. But she's always said that like people don't change, like ever. Like, I don't. She was like, I don't care if they went to therapy. I don't care if they did this. I don't care if they did that. They don't change. Which I believe. But I also think people can grow. People can change. No, Like, I don't wholeheartedly believe that. But in her defense, 99% of the time, whatever you didn't like about them is probably similar. Still a little bit there.

[Hannah]

I did have one friendship breakup.

[Paige]

Oh yeah? How old were you?

[Hannah]

College.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

So it was really intense. She was like my best friend and we were on the tennis team together. And then she was having her own kind of issues with the team and ended up leaving the team. And we had kind of like this falling out that was, it was sad. But I also was like, this isn't a healthy relationship anyway anymore. And then fast forward, years later, she reached out to me and had done like a, a lot of work on herself and was so self aware of like what happened. Yeah. Things that she could have done differently. Immediately I was like, and I could have done this differently. Yeah. And we'll never be as close as we were.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

But I've 100 forgiven her.

[Paige]

Yes. I think that's where you have to.

[Hannah]

Go because it's like, oh, we both know. We both were so apologetic and both were clearly like, loved each other and, and expressed like, I missed you and I'm so sorry.

[Paige]

Well, it's very stressful for your own self to, to dislike someone. Like, you can't, like, you really can't hate people. I mean, obviously I have a list.

[Hannah]

Of people I Hate is bad for you.

[Paige]

Active hate, like, where you're actively, like, I don't know, texting them and fighting is so different than people that you're just like, they scare me. I don't want to be associated, but.

[Hannah]

Love and hate are close. Where, like, me and this girl were, like, so close. And then it was, like, for us not to be speaking, it was literally a breakup. So it's kind of like a guy who, like, you had a great thing with, but then there was miscommunication and got fucked up. And one day later in life, you're just like, by the way, like, I respect you and I love you, and, like, it wasn't meant for us.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

But no hard feelings.

[Paige]

Yeah. If a girl came back to me, like, as a friend, I would be more into, like, possibly.

[Hannah]

But it's. But if you're not.

[Paige]

I did. I would be.

[Hannah]

No.

[Paige]

I would never even respond.

[Hannah]

But even with girls, I would argue. You never be my best friend again.

[Paige]

Correct. I had a friendship breakup when I was in college, and I'm not kidding. It took me, like, four years to get over it. And the final straw was. I remember not even the final straw. It was like, when I realized she didn't want to be my friend anymore.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

It was her 21st birthday, and I was like, what are we doing? Like, oh, my God, 21. And she was like, oh, I don't know yet. And then I saw she was in Atlantic City. She's like, cool. She's in Atlantic City with her family. And I think that's why when we did a show in Atlantic City, I was so truly.

[Hannah]

We got in, like, we were in, like, a car, and you randomly go, I'm not going to die in Atlantic City. And I was like, okay.

[Paige]

And I couldn't understand why I was having such an aversion to Atlantic City. And then I remembered that story, and I was like, oh, yeah. Because I've never been to Atlantic City or even thought about going because of that moment in my early 20s, not.

[Hannah]

Getting invited to a party. Yeah. Where, like, everyone else is invited is like. But that's what I guess Ashley Tisdale was talking about, basically. Like, that's like.

[Paige]

She felt like she. She would see them at, like, brunch and stuff, but that now in my 30s. Yeah. Go to brunch. Get out there. Girls, like, have the best time.

[Hannah]

What's hard with the friend group, though, is sometimes it's one person being like. Like, we're not inviting this person. Yeah. And then other people are just kind of like going with it but they're not necessarily like on a team of something. It's like there's those followers like in the middle. Wait, can I say something about I.

[Paige]

Like having one friend and one final.

[Hannah]

Yeah, it's. Well that's why I live when there's three friends. There's always like gang ups and stuff.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

Yeah, the workforce. Yeah. It was very interesting and it was just an Instagram, but I read it.

[Paige]

Oh good.

[Hannah]

It basically said how being the smartest or best worker in your office does not really mean that you're gonna get a promotion. That promotions more so go to like the safer person who's really like in with the social of it all. Because I've been at companies where like I was the one who was like, in meetings, like, trying to come up with new ideas or, like, disagreeing with something or being like, what if we did this? And, like, outside the box, and I wasn't, like, going out afterwards with the company. And then I remember someone else got a promotion who, like, smokes weed with the boss every weekend, and they basically were like, the person who, like, doesn't.

[Paige]

Speak up, maybe you should have done drugs.

[Hannah]

And again, drugs would have made me more successful. But if they're like. If you're just, like, not a risk and, like, safer and just like a yes man, you're more likely to get a promotion. Which.

[Paige]

Interesting.

[Hannah]

I don't want to tell people.

[Paige]

Wait, have you ever been promoted?

[Hannah]

I've definitely asked for a promotion, but told no.

[Paige]

I've never. Never even brought it up. Like, never on my way.

[Hannah]

I've multiple. But the thing is, I'm so entrepreneurial that, yeah, every job I just learned.

[Paige]

I was like, I'm not gonna be here, like, much myself.

[Hannah]

Yeah. No, I remember, like, I. I went into my old notes and saw a thing from a review meeting, and I wrote all the things that I did, and I was, like, listing it out, and I remember them being like, you're fired.

[Paige]

So, Cupid, you actually got fired last week. Why do you keep coming here?

[Hannah]

I didn't know. Are you still getting checks in the mail? Because that's an accounting issue. Like George Costanza.

[Paige]

And signed it actually low key is so funny to get fired.

[Hannah]

Oh, it's literally, like, because you're just like, you.

[Paige]

I didn't want to work here anyway.

[Hannah]

Like, you're like someone vacation. No, getting. Getting fired as a people pleaser has been, like, the biggest growth for me. Yeah. As a human in my heart and my soul.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Also, we all have those jobs in your 20s where you're like, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. And then you get fired, and you're like, so what?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Also one shout out. I've been getting some DMS about now. Let me just say, Paige's number one job, and she's incredible at it, is doing the ads. Yeah. Every now and then, I get a message being like, I can tell that Paige re recorded this 500 ago. I could tell that she fought for her life to pronounce one of these words. And I just want you guys know, you need to support her, and you need to support us. And she's trying her fudgeing very best. This is her one job.

[Paige]

You know how hard it is to read 20 ads?

[Hannah]

She has the reading level of a second grader.

[Paige]

And she aren't understanding is that I'm not just reading the ads I'm writing. I'm making them up as I go.

[Hannah]

Like, it's a wordsmith. Okay.

[Paige]

It's not like the brand sends you exactly what she's a novelist. They're like, and make it your own. And I'm like, okay, well, in my life, I would cough. Here, I would mispronounce this word. There's so many times where I've had to re record ads, and Hannah has been like, babe, you're dyslexic. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And it's like, okay, you had to say lmnop, and you said it backwards.

[Hannah]

And do you remember that one time.

[Paige]

I was with you? I was like, I know for a fact I didn't say it wrong. And then I re. Listened. I was like, maybe I am dyslexic. No, I'm definitely something. But it's like, we're out of school now, so it doesn't really matter, and I'll live with it.

[Hannah]

Can I come from.

[Paige]

Was that the only thing you wanted to say? Just to, like, for people to, like, stop judging how I read. Thank you for bringing awareness. I haven't started my book yet, but.

[Hannah]

It also is funny because obviously, like, I'm not listening to. To all the ads you do.

[Paige]

Okay, here's the reason why I do the ads. Because when Giggly Squad first started, Hannah edited the podcast. I did the ads. Now that we have Grace, like, I send the ads to Grace, she'll edit them, she'll edit the podcast. I just never stopped doing the ads because, like, it's part of my routine. It's part of my thing.

[Hannah]

Yeah. And I wrote the book, but with Grace and then.

[Paige]

And Hannah and her mom wrote the book, but it's. I. But you talk to Grace so much more than I do, so I feel like it's our thing. It's what, like, keeps us.

[Hannah]

By the way, I would love to help with the ads. We just, like, we have a lot going on, and it could change tomorrow.

[Paige]

It's not sustainable, though, for the ads to, like, split them up because it's. They're all in. It's just easier to go.

[Hannah]

And once you start, you can flow. And also, you're really good at recommending things. Like, you know, it's good.

[Paige]

Well, that's the other thing with the ads. I've personally, like, been, yes. Yeah, I use that hair product yes. So like it makes more sense for.

[Hannah]

Me to do it 100% and. But it is interesting because we've gotten some questions during live shows like how.

[Paige]

Do you like divy things up?

[Hannah]

We both just do the things that we're good at and that's it.

[Paige]

Which we haven't figured out what those things are. But we'll get back to you.

[Hannah]

Also, I was with a man. Not dez.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Not an affair. And I just have. Oh my God. Men are so fascinating. Where like he was trying to find somewhere with directions and it's the classic like how men don't ask for directions. And I'm like, can we just check the phone? Because if we're walking the wrong direction for like 10 minutes, I'm going to piss. And he's like, don't give up. Don't give up. And I'm like, give up.

[Paige]

I'm just trying to do better.

[Hannah]

And then we get to this. We're shopping someplace. And he was like. I'm like, let's ask the person where we were looking for like slides. Yeah. And he was like flip flops. And I was like, let's ask where they are. It's a huge store. And he's like, whoa, whoa. I'm not giving up. And I'm like, we're not. You're not a hunter. You're not impressing me right now.

[Paige]

Filmed for television.

[Hannah]

You're way to do it in my damn time. This is a survivor. No one's judging you. Ask for help.

[Paige]

I don't think they like to. Especially to another guy. I think that's why they don't like to ask directions because it's always to like when you stop to ask directions it's usually like a gas station. It's like a guy or whatever but in like a store or just general help.

[Hannah]

Yeah. One thing about me, the second I walk in a store, if I know what I need, I am going straight to a person. I said I'm helpless. I'm scared.

[Paige]

No. I'm the person on customer service. 000. Give me a real frickin person.

[Hannah]

I SOS on my forehead. Except when I don't have anything to shop for. And I'm just like perusing. Yeah. I'm so scared of conversation because as a people pleaser they're probably doing fine. But all I hear is do you want to buy that? Are you sure you don't do she. Do you want to buy now? Do you want to buy it now? And I'm like, I would love to support, but I'm so scared.

[Paige]

Okay, that actually brings up a good point because I feel like I keep seeing that, like, for whatever reason, it's very trendy to have a sister. I feel like all my tick tocks are like, and here's my sister. And we're like, you had a sister this whole time? Or it's like, and this is my twin. And it's like. And it's all these tick tocks of, like, girls and their sister relationships, which I sort of like, envied my whole life. Then I saw this girl make a tick tock and she was like, wow, I don't have a sister. And so I feel like no one's ever actually told me the truth in my whole entire life. Because sisters are so like, yeah, no, you look disgusting. Why would you do that? Or like, you're acting like a weirdo. Like, they're very.

[Hannah]

I like Armando.

[Paige]

So I like, was sitting there and I was like, oh, my God, has anyone ever told me the truth? And then I go, wait a minute, Kim.

[Hannah]

I have text messages and text messages.

[Paige]

And emails about how I can improve and things that I can change. I was like, wait, I've been told the truth ten times more than any sister out there.

[Hannah]

Isn't it cute that, like, our moms become our sisters now?

[Paige]

Well, now that, like, yeah, now that I'm in, they're like our older sisters. I like, if something will happen and it's not like, oh, my God, I have to tell my mom because she has to fix it. It's like, I have to tell my mom because I want to go, like, she's gonna have great comeback to it.

[Hannah]

Also, I saw this hilarious stand up by. I'm gonna insert the name Casey Shornima. She was saying how isn't it funny how your dad is just kind of like your mom's boyfriend? And how, like, you'll be going out to dinner. It's like, do you wanna. Are you bringing him? What am I supposed to talk to him about? Like, when you go to the bathroom, you're just like, hanging out with your boyfriend.

[Paige]

I love the Tic Tacs where it's like, why would I talk to my best friend's ex? And it's like, it's their dad.

[Hannah]

No, you're. He's literally just like the guy that she got sperm from. When your mom, like, first complains to you about your dad for the first time, it's so funny.

[Paige]

I said something the other day. Like, I was on the phone with my mom, but Usually she has me on speaker.

[Hannah]

So, like, should we break up with it?

[Paige]

Anyone in the kitchen could be listening. And I said to her, like. And I just don't relate because, like, I come from a household where, like, the woman is in charge and, like, she's the smartest. And my dad goes, okay. And I'm like, so I don't identify that your dad is in charge because at my house, we don't care where he is.

[Hannah]

But she's made him think that he has some power, and he's. He's listening. He goes, what is. What the hell? They conspiring against my mom. But your dad is literally your mom's boyfriend that, like. Like, yeah. Hangs around, and it's like, he's always hanging around her.

[Paige]

She's, like, picking her up.

[Hannah]

Also, because I'm getting older. I am that family member. I did. Oh, my God. I did that thing, which. You know how your family member will, like, call you someone else in the family's name, and you're like, how could you do that? I called Lois Andrea, who's my other little cousin.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I'm, like, becoming everything that I was annoyed at, like, my older aunts for doing to me. Like, I'm the person that walks up to her and goes, you're getting so big. Yeah. And you know when you're little and someone says that, you're like, I'll blow my brains out.

[Paige]

Please.

[Hannah]

Like, you're the eighth person that told me that today. But you, like, it's like, human nature. You just become your aunt.

[Paige]

Yeah. You just, like, become your mom.

[Hannah]

I'm just becoming every. I'm like, you used to be so little. I used. I could tell her a whole story that she doesn't care about. I'm like, you used to run up and down the stairs. Those cheeks. And now you're like.

[Paige]

You. Look at you. She's like, I'm 16. Shut up.

[Hannah]

Oh, also, I wanted to formally apologize. Last episode we recorded, it was really nice out, and I was like, shall we walk back to your place?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And you stupidly. You get tricked every damn time.

[Paige]

Every damn time.

[Hannah]

I'm with you because I distract you with some good gossip. I'll be like, let's talk about this. And we're walking. And. And look, it's a flow state. Walking, gossiping. And then you were wearing your.

[Paige]

I was wearing ballet flats. That. And it was the first time I was wearing them. Like, I had gotten them at the Woodbury Common Outlet, which is just like, there's nothing better Than getting something at an outlet store.

[Hannah]

Yes. So that's real shopping.

[Paige]

It's real shopping.

[Hannah]

Like, I respect that.

[Paige]

Yeah. Because you have to like go in and like look around once you have to park. One time I was at Woodbury Common Outlet and I was. I'm not kidding. I was 8 years old. And sometimes they would peek it at my goal weight. Okay. I was. I've never been skinnier. And they used to do. Sometimes they would do like Sam. Not. It was like sample sale pop ups.

[Hannah]

But it was like food sampling. I got excited.

[Paige]

It was just like extra stuff that either like they couldn't sell or whatever. But it wasn't the store name. Like, it was an empty store name. So any brand could be in there. And I remember one time Burberry was in there and they had these Burberry pink and brown, like rain boots. And I could. And I found one of them. Okay. And I was like, oh. The other one is obviously like, they have it in the back. They're not putting two because they want people to steal it or whatever. I had one in my hand and I'm little, like I'm a child and I'm like shopping with my mom. So I go up to her and I'm like, I have this boot and this is the boot I want to buy. So she goes up to the counter and she's like, we need the other boot. And she was like, oh, the other boots out on the floor. Like, it must just like be somewhere. And my mom was like, okay, well, we'll look for it.

[Hannah]

She made you scavenger hunt?

[Paige]

Well, it looked like a sample sale room, so it was like, shit was all over. Yeah, this woman was holding the other boot and now we're up at the counter and so I'm a child, so I'm like, hey, that's my boot. Hey, like, I have the other boot. And like, I'm about to pay. Like, that's my boot. And my mom gets into a fight with this woman. And the woman was like, no, I'm not giving you the other boot. Like, I had it first. And my mom was like, well, how do you know that you had it first when my daughter, who's a child, is holding the boot. Anyway, long story short, I actually don't remember what happened, but I don't know that I don't have those boots, so I must have not. I don't know what happened. What my mom ended up doing.

[Hannah]

That's what like, built character back in the day. And now being at a mall Seeing.

[Paige]

Everyone I know that I was revved up. Okay, I was definitely believe I didn't leave with the boots. So now every time I go to Woodbury Common outlets, I'm a savage. Like, you want to cut me in line? I don't think so. I think about those boots from 1998 and I'll never let that happen again.

[Hannah]

And like clicking something to buy on Amazon will never give you that thrill of like that was like you were hunting.

[Paige]

And also I hate that sample sales are such a New York City thing because we could have competition. Like if they did sample sales all over the country.

[Hannah]

Do they not?

[Paige]

No, because all like the place like the design district always in.

[Hannah]

Because look, I love a sample sale. I'm at the point now if I go a whole day without spending money, I feel like I made money.

[Paige]

I'd be dead. If I go a whole day without spending money, someone check on me because I'm dead.

[Hannah]

So anyway, you texted me the next day and said I'm bleeding out from your ankles because some of these designer.

[Paige]

Shoes from my ankles, Hannah. I had 12 blisters in total, you guys.

[Hannah]

We walked for 10 minutes. We walked for 10 minutes. And I actually that night was going to apologize to you because I felt in my heart of hearts that you were in pain because we had pissed.

[Paige]

Me off about it the most. I had planned to get a pedicure later that day. I can't go to a pedicure bleeding out with open sores. I literally, I'd be like, just chop my feet off now of staph infection.

[Hannah]

I was literally going to apologize to you. And then I turned on Great British.

[Paige]

Baby had a cure list and I haven't gotten over it.

[Hannah]

So I'm really moral of the story.

[Paige]

Don't listen to your friends when they want to walk or exercise because they're tricking you.

[Hannah]

I also wrote down I have a social media strategy.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

I realized like this is literally my social media strategy. It's two things whenever I post, like you have to have a purpose. Like what's your motive? What's your niche? I have two posts. One.

[Paige]

Wait, is it funny? Okay, good.

[Hannah]

What is going to make the gigglers laugh? What is going to make them laugh? What is going to make them be like hehehe, kick their legs? And then what is going to rage beige rage, rage bait page. What is going to rage bait page? So those are the two things I post. And if you look, there's nothing else that I post. It's laughter. And when I post a rage bait to Paige, you don't respond. Or if you're like, like give me.

[Paige]

An example of a rage bait to me that you posted recently that I was like hello.

[Hannah]

Oh yeah, well like that's to you. Like that's not to anyone else. That's just to you. And for all the gigglers being like waiting on page, you put it on close friends.

[Paige]

Like wait till I see it.

[Hannah]

So those are the only two posts and some of them are the same, some of them rage bait and make the giggles laugh. But that's all I post.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Paige]

I was going to say, did you see the very controversial take that Jennifer Lawrence had?

[Hannah]

Oh, that a dog bit her kid. So she was like, fuck that dog.

[Paige]

Yeah, she was like, got rid of the dog. The comment. Oh, the com. Well, she did say after that. It's not funny. She did say after that, like, I will obliterate any dog I see. Which I don't think she was being serious. It's Jennifer Lawrence. Obviously she's not gonna kill a dog.

[Hannah]

But what a headline to give people.

[Paige]

I was like, oh my God. When I saw it, I literally really was scared to go in the comments because I was like, I've just said.

[Hannah]

Hey, cats over dogs there's something about dogs that represent, like, America where, like, if you talk too bad about dogs, like, you're not patriotic.

[Paige]

That is so true.

[Hannah]

Because dogs are men.

[Paige]

Not appropriate.

[Hannah]

She's a lesbian. She's stunning. She likes.

[Paige]

She drinks kombucha. Yeah.

[Hannah]

She has pierced.

[Paige]

No cat has ever bit a baby's face.

[Hannah]

She believes in witches.

[Paige]

Yeah. But anyway, it was one of those moments where I, like, watched the clip and I was like, could have reasoning because I'm a human. Where I was like, I totally get, like, if a dog bites your newborn baby's face, you're gonna obviously be like, oh, my God, I'm scared of this dog now.

[Hannah]

No, no. You don't mess with dogs and babies. If a dog has ever showed aggression.

[Paige]

But I was so scared to click the comments and then I clicked it and it was just like. I was like, oh, my. I'll never say another thing about a dog ever.

[Hannah]

We were joking last night about this because we were talking about. You ever watch a video and you think the comments are going to have a certain vibe and you want to add to it, and then you click on it and you're like, oh, no, we are going in a complete different direction.

[Paige]

There are sometimes where I'm like, wait.

[Hannah]

The comments are a group mentality. And sometimes you were off. Like, you think you're going to go down to be like, silly goosey. And it's like, hate comments. Or sometimes you think it's going to be hate comments. And everyone's like, slay. And you're like, okay.

[Paige]

And it's usually like, public. Like, I'm trying to think of an example, like an E. News just happened. And I was like, wait, he's right. And the comments were like, how dare you?

[Hannah]

Yeah, but there's like an.

[Paige]

Oh, you want to know what it was? There was a guy who was at a Broadway play and he was with his nieces.

[Hannah]

You love a public meltdown. So that's very New York to be like, shut the fuck up.

[Paige]

Well, I agreed with him because I'm sorry, When you go to the movies, this is why, like, I will never go see, like, a. Well, because I have a brain. I would never go see, like, a Wicked type movie in the movie theaters because if someone started singing, I would be so annoyed.

[Hannah]

This is my problem. I'm not gonna say something publicly against, like, a row of people. Like, that's scares me. I feel like if it's one person, you could give a little look or you wait for a more angry New Yorker if you did something, if you.

[Paige]

Didn'T see the clip. The clip is of a, like, guy, probably, like, in his 40s. He's at a theater. He stands up, he's yelling like, I need security over here. Security comes over and he's like, this whole row is obnoxious. They're singing the whole time. They're now, like, using profanities. He's there with, like, his two, like, little nieces.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

I don't know what play they're at.

[Hannah]

Obviously one he was like, my nieces won't stop singing. They're so annoying.

[Paige]

And I think Broadway is so different from the movie theater. Okay, the movie theater. Fine. Broadway. The humans are up on stage. They're singing. You paid to hear them.

[Hannah]

Let them cook.

[Paige]

Why would you make a word, make a sound at a play?

[Hannah]

I also have PTSD from, like, when you're on the bus and, like, a bunch of girls start singing a song and, like, you don't know the words.

[Paige]

And I never. That was so not me. Like, anytime there was, like, a dance circle, I couldn't do that. I actually any, like, performing like that. I was like, no.

[Hannah]

I saw a crazy altercation at an air. On a plane recently, and I hate talking too much about flights, but, like, it is prime time for drama. Tell me who's in the wrong.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Okay. So this lady is going.

[Paige]

You're witnessing this first.

[Hannah]

Firsthand. This lady is getting to her seat, and above her is someone's jacket.

[Paige]

Okay?

[Hannah]

She takes the.

[Paige]

In the overhead bin.

[Hannah]

In the overhead bin.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

She takes out the jacket and says, whose jacket is this? Looks at me because I'm next to her. Wasn't mine. Okay. First time, I'm innocent. And the guy behind me already.

[Paige]

Don't touch my.

[Hannah]

The guy behind me was mine. That's mine. And she goes, you can't put your jacket here. And she's it to him. Oh, okay. And I don't want to say so wrong. It was dez.

[Paige]

It was Des's jacket.

[Hannah]

It was Des's jacket.

[Paige]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

Now, mind you, across from her, okay, was an open. Like, there was room.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Now there's.

[Paige]

The bin is not assigned to that seat.

[Hannah]

That's the thing. Your bin is not assigned or they'd.

[Paige]

Have numbers on the bins.

[Hannah]

And it's first come, first serve.

[Paige]

Correct.

[Hannah]

What she could have done, what I've done in situations where, like, I'm going to sit and someone's jacket or things they could put underneath is there. You turn to the person who works there. Yeah. And you say, hey, how would you think you can fit this up there? And then she can handle that. In a professional manner.

[Paige]

Don't touch my stuff.

[Hannah]

Pulls out his coat and throws it.

[Paige]

I would have thrown it right back.

[Hannah]

Throws it at him. And DEZ flies all the time, so he knows his rules. He was calm as a gentleman as he could be. There was people walking through and overheard. It was said, merry Christmas to her. Yeah. And they were like, she's in a bad mood. And this lady just, like, sat back down.

[Paige]

How old was the lady?

[Hannah]

She was, like, 65. She was.

[Paige]

Where were you flying to, may I ask? Or where were you coming from?

[Hannah]

I don't remember, but she. Then she was sitting in front of me the whole time. I was like, this woman disrespected my husband. Even someone hurts someone you love.

[Paige]

Yeah. It's a.

[Hannah]

It's a different anger.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

But then I was more. I was texting Des, and I said, first of all, I'm so proud of you for being so calm. Because in the moment, I was like, yeah, something kind of snippy.

[Paige]

Like, no, I would have freaked out.

[Hannah]

He was so calm. But I. I told him, I said, whatever's happening, don't take it personally. She's going. She has this kind of interaction with people all day.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, she's full of anger. Has nothing to do with you. She's projecting on you. She's probably having a rough time. And that's how she.

[Paige]

Was she traveling alone?

[Hannah]

No. She had her husband with her, and.

[Paige]

He didn't say anything.

[Hannah]

He was. He was scared.

[Paige]

What a Beta. What were we talking about before this? Because I feel like I was gonna say something.

[Hannah]

I have another hot take.

[Paige]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

I know.

[Paige]

Hot take Sunday.

[Hannah]

The best compliment comes from a child under five.

[Paige]

Yes. Yes.

[Hannah]

But also the most painful remarks can.

[Paige]

Come from a child under five.

[Hannah]

They can break you.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

They're not holding back. They'll see you do something and be like, why are your arms so sweaty? Oh, my God. It's like, in the morning, Lois will, like, jump into my bed. Yeah. Throw a book at me and make her read to me. And then go, ew, your breath smells bad. I'm like, okay, you, first of all, put a gun to my head, force me to read, don't let me brush my teeth, and then bully me for effing bad breath. What kind of abuse is this?

[Paige]

I love like, a child's. Like, I wonder at what age your brain is like. Oh, I can't say. Like, you just don't say. Because you're not consciously, like, oh, I don't. I can't say that anymore. Yeah, but it's like, you just don't say certain things.

[Hannah]

If a kid says you're funny or pretty, like, yeah.

[Paige]

Like, if a baby. Like, honestly, Christmas Eve mass, this. I was next to, like, three little.

[Hannah]

Boys.

[Paige]

Under eight years old.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

They were obsessed with me. And I was like, it's like, wait a second.

[Hannah]

Well, that's why it's like, yeah, I'd rather the little kid like me than these adults that are projecting their own. That they've experienced on their life towards me. I want the pure form of honesty. Yeah. I corner a girl, I'm like, do you think I'm a good person? Before you wrote this.

[Paige]

That's why, like, when Lois said I was a princess, I was like. Like, she looks at me and she's like, she's magical.

[Hannah]

When Louis looked you up, she literally was like, I'm watching a Disney movie. It. And she looked at your tights.

[Paige]

Yeah, it was. When she slowly touched my tights, I was like, if I don't have a daughter, I'll kill myself.

[Hannah]

You know, you're going to have, like, the most. The most dirty, annoying son.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I'm looking at my notes. I'm, like, farted at the coffee shop. Talked about that. I need. I need some advice from you about organizing my clothes.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I'm in a minimalist mode.

[Paige]

Hannah. I went through all my clothes yesterday, and. Not yesterday. I meant, like, over the past couple of weeks. I want to throw everything over out and start over. I actually hate everything I've ever worn before.

[Hannah]

I don't know if it's, like, where we are in our life. I think that's what it is. I want everything gone. And so I was, like, going through my stuff. But it's this. People don't talk about. There's this kind of piece of clothing that you own that you've worn before. You like it, but you normally would, like, probably pick other stuff over it. But you can't get yourself to throw it away because, like, it's been worn and you don't not like it.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

And I think that is what my closet is full of. Yes. Of stuff that, like, I've. I've looked good in it before. If you said, would you want to wear it tonight? I'd say no, but I can't get myself to throw it away. Yeah. And, like, I don't know what to do.

[Paige]

I feel like my thing is, it's like Such specific pieces that I'm like, I can't wear that.

[Hannah]

But then you're like, I'd be so mad if something comes up. And that was perfect.

[Paige]

Yes, that's what it is. Or I also, I used to. To have, like, this thing where if I wore something, like, outrageous, I would be too nervous to wear it. I'd be like, no. Like, people aren't gonna get it. They're gonna think it's ugly or like, whatever.

[Hannah]

See, I love you in those.

[Paige]

And my mom, like, tricked me when at a very young age where, like, I snapped out of that.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

She would always say, like, whenever I'd have that feeling, she'd always say, if another girl walked in wearing it, how would you feel? And if the answer was, oh, I'd feel so jealous. This, she'd be like, then wear it.

[Hannah]

Wait, that's such a good shopping thing to think if you saw someone else with it. But my problem is I have a lot of clothes that I like that, like, if another person wore, I'd be like, that's sick. But then on me, it looks bad.

[Paige]

That's not true. She's all about, like, how they style it.

[Hannah]

You're right. Styling. I should.

[Paige]

I think your new style is going to be. I think you need more flowy, like, pants that aren't jeans.

[Hannah]

You guys. So you hate my outfit today?

[Paige]

No, no, I don't hate your. I mean, I don't know what it is.

[Hannah]

I was gonna wear white capris today with a white. With a little white T shirt. I was so page coded. But then you could see my white sports bra through the white T shirt, and I panicked because you.

[Paige]

Have such like, a long, beautiful torso. Like, I think you should be more like, tighter tops and then flowy pants.

[Hannah]

Like, flowy, wide legged.

[Paige]

Not like super wide leg, though.

[Hannah]

Like, what kind of material are we talking?

[Paige]

I don't know. Like, honestly, you know what? I'll have my mom make a duck.

[Hannah]

I'm lost. I need Kim to do a full PowerPoint. But no, you're right.

[Paige]

Like, I. Your silhouette. You have such a good bot. You really. Like, we can work with a good, like, shape where, like, I'm like a board and so, like, it's like I have to wear certain things that makes it look like I have a good, like, butt, but it's like, it's not there for you. Such a good shape, but you never accentuate it. And it actually really annoys me that you never show your boobs.

[Hannah]

You sound just like my mom. Also, I was Gonna wear capris and show off my boobs today. And this is what I ended up in.

[Paige]

Great.

[Hannah]

I was so close. Have you seen the US Ice Skating Championships around?

[Paige]

I only saw one clip about how like everyone's family died in like a plane crash prior to. Oh, remember that plane crash? Like what was that last year? But it was like a bunch of figure SK families. So now it's what it's. All of them are competing like people that.

[Hannah]

I didn't know that.

[Paige]

Yeah. Cuz the one guy that's like about to go to the Olympics, he was holding up a picture of his parents and they had died in that flight. I think that was like exactly a year ago.

[Hannah]

Jesus Christ. So anyway, that's intense.

[Paige]

Sorry not to kill the mood, but.

[Hannah]

Good context for sure. No, it's, it's. You watch these people's like dreams come true as they're like making the Olympics or not. But I can't stop thinking about heated rivalry and how like in another world, these gay hockey players were just ice skaters. Yeah, gay hockey players are just men who like couldn't get themselves to ice skate. Meanwhile, if you're an ice skater and you're with the woman, all you're doing is like holding her crotch and spinning her. It's like male cheerleaders.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Like they're actually the ones who get.

[Paige]

They're actually fingering them. Just watch. Bring it on. That's why the military leaders. Join culture yourself.

[Hannah]

Final culture moment that we talked about yesterday that I have to bring up is the rewriting of history of Jersey Shore. We have to apologize. No, it's totally apologize.

[Paige]

I love Jersey Shore. There's nothing that shaped who I am as a person more than Jersey.

[Hannah]

And you recently met jwoww and I've.

[Paige]

Like hung out with jwoww. I've met like family adjacent to her. I actually have like a weird connection with JWoww because she's from my hometown and my brother knows like her boyfriend's mom. It's like a whole. We're sisters. She brought her daughter the day we filmed our Amazon show.

[Hannah]

Which is crazy because we remember before she even met that guy.

[Paige]

So being able to talk to her about reality tv. So interesting because we did it in completely different eras of reality tv.

[Hannah]

Yes. So different.

[Paige]

They always talk about how like producers were not that involved much because they were so good at the casting, I would assume. But for whatever reason where reality TV now it's like producers can. Well, they can ruin your life and.

[Hannah]

They know like what they need in an episode so they just get right back. Then they were like, what could happen?

[Paige]

But when I recently re. Watched Jersey Shore, and I was like, I actually felt really sad at a moment because I was like, wait, I was a senior in high school. I would watch this, and I would watch Ronnie just literally abuse the out of Sammy. And everyone would be like, sammy's so annoying.

[Hannah]

It was crazy.

[Paige]

Looking back now I'm like, like, we.

[Hannah]

Need to do a formal apology to Sammy sweetheart. Because she was enduring. Like, everyone's been through.

[Paige]

If that aired now.

[Hannah]

Well, he immediately.

[Paige]

No, he'd immediately be obviously removed from the show.

[Hannah]

Yeah. We literally were like, sammy, you're no fun.

[Paige]

He threw her bed outside. And we were just like, sam, again.

[Hannah]

You'Re crying again, Sam, can you stop complaining? You're so so.

[Paige]

And then when she was like. She was like, I'm gonna leave. And everyone was like, don't leave. Don't leave. And I was like, guys, you were all just so mean to her. You're like, we hate you. When she's clearly in this awful relation. Let her go home.

[Hannah]

And we're just like, ronnie's just, like, having fun, and Sammy's ruining it for him.

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

And then he's like, ron, don't make fun of my big toe. Don't make fun of her big toe.

[Paige]

It really made me throw her bed.

[Hannah]

Out of the apartment and come for her looks. Which leaves me with our mental health moment. If a man makes you feel If a man.

[Paige]

And move on with your life.

[Hannah]

If a man makes you feel ugly at any moment, even if you are ugly in that moment, leave him.

[Paige]

Oh, that's really good.

[Hannah]

It's so true. Like, remember, those relationships were, like, in theory, it should be good, but, like, you just didn't feel. Feel good gorgeous around him, even though you knew you are.

[Paige]

Yes. I actually haven't felt that. I feel like, since, like, my early childhood.

[Hannah]

Also, you know those guys who, you know, you look like shit, but when you're around them, he makes you feel like you're just like a model off duty.

[Paige]

That's just like, guys being insecure. Wait, before we go, did you see that one TikTok couple that I actually will insert their names. He's like a chef.

[Hannah]

He supposed being.

[Paige]

He's a chef. And she always has, like, funny videos. And it's like in their family, they just built this, like, gorgeous house. They've been like a TikTok couple for years. They've been together since they were, like, 14. She actually made a TikTok and was like, we are officially together more years than we've been apart. She found out he was cheating on her and she, like, immediately left. And I just think that's such a good message. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. No, I was really devastated by their divorce. I was like, wait. They were, like, the only TikTok couple that I was ever like, oh, they seem like normal. Because I felt like they didn't share that much personal stuff. All their videos were, like, funny.

[Hannah]

Well, they couldn't hear he's in another woman's bed. Right.

[Paige]

He was in another relationship.

[Hannah]

He's like, hey, can't tell you what I did today.

[Paige]

But there was a lot of people being like, let this just be a message. Like, the moment you feel like that or you find something out, yeah, leave.

[Hannah]

Which, like.

[Paige]

But also, I'm a hypocrite.

[Hannah]

It is. Yeah, it is really hard to leave. Sammy stayed. Yeah, we've all stayed.

[Paige]

Totally. And don't feel bad for staying.

[Hannah]

You'll be fine. Is our mental health moment of the week. Enjoy your week, you guys, and know that we have a second episode coming out on Friday. And love you. Bye.

[Paige]

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