Giggling about couples counseling, clams, and condoms

Summary

Giggly Squad

Episode: Giggling about couples counseling, clams, and condoms

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: February 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and characteristically unfiltered episode, Hannah and Paige tackle subjects from relationships and couples counseling, to pop culture flashpoints, trenches in Fashion Week, reality TV trauma, and the seemingly eternal oyster-vs-clam debate. As always, the hosts dissect their own lives with self-deprecating humor and share their unfiltered takes on the week's pop culture and personal happenings, joined at moments by their friend Ali. Expect chaotic giggles and candid confessions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Couples Counseling, Relationship Red Flags, and Hot Takes

• The squad dives into the world of relationship advice, critiquing popular intimacy “rules” and therapy for couples under 30.

  • Ali: "If you're under 27, you should not be going to couples therapy. Get a new man." (03:06)
  • Hannah: "I think going to couples counseling or therapy even, like, before you're married is like, a little bit of a red flag." (03:12)
  • Light-hearted admissions about needing a bit of drama in a relationship:
    • Hannah: “I have to slam at least once every fiscal, like, quarter.” (03:54)
    • Ali: “You have to threaten... You have to just keep them scared.” (04:04)
  • Touches on the generational and personal differences in what defines a “healthy” relationship dynamic.

2. Pop Culture Catch-ups: Cheating Olympians, The Trials of Bronze, and Viral Guilt Confessions

• Discussion of a Norwegian Olympian who publicly confessed to cheating, sparking a mix of incredulity and giggling judgment.
  • Hannah (Reading): "I had a gold medal in life... I hope that committing social suicide like this might show her how much I love her, which, that's just like, insane." (05:16)
  • The group jokes about the lack of prestige for a bronze medal in the context of public redemption.
  • Winter Olympics vs. Summer Olympics: Assessing risk, job-juggling athletes, and the insanity of double luge.

3. Fashion Week & Trench Coat Obsessions

• Fashion Week recap: attending Christian Siriano and Michael Kors and the joys of a trench coat.
  • Ali: “There’s something about a trench. It really makes you... you feel investigative.” (12:42)
  • Hannah: “Trench also gives, like, lost baby or dog... if you’re lost, you’re going up to the person in a trench.” (13:14)
  • Ali recounts a humorous incident with photographers and Facetiming her mom mid-paparazzi moment. Lois (Ali's daughter) makes a cameo as a pint-sized fashion critic: "She goes, 'I’m concerned.'" (14:22)

4. Cardi B, Reality TV Crossover, and Football Cheating

• Cardi B's career trajectory from reality TV to global superstardom, and football drama.
  • Ali: “Cardi B was on Love & Hip Hop, and now she’s the number one selling rap artist. ...we're both from New York.” (22:15)
  • Discussion on cheating amidst busy, public careers, referencing Stefan Diggs’ infamous “let me heal you” moment. (23:02)
  • Hannah: “How do you find time to cheat during football season?” (23:15)

5. America’s Next Top Model Documentary Recap & Reality TV Reckonings

• Ali deep-dives into the new ANTM documentary:
  • The show’s darker legacy, Tyra Banks’ complicated narrative, and the psychological toll on contestants.
    • Ali: "Tyra is, like, narrating, but it's kind of a hit piece on Tyra, and Tyra doesn't know." (25:19)
    • Hannah: “I always thought she was just the host... she, like, pitched.” (26:42)
    • Jaw-dropping moments: forced dental work for makeovers, the “bagel narrative,” and post-show trauma.
    • The big disconnect between reality TV edit and real life:
      • Hannah: “With reality tv, people can't do that... you did that... but I didn’t edit it like that.” (31:22)
    • Triggering moments highlighted, like exploitation of contestants' real traumas for TV.
      • Ali: "There's a power dynamic where these girls are not actors... you're just being forced around." (33:14)
    • Realization that very few reality stars transition into mainstream celebrity.

6. Olympics Gossip: Condoms as Souvenirs

• The squad uncovers the reason behind the infamous “10,000 condoms at the Olympics” myth:
  • Ali: “Apparently, there's boxes around. ...The Olympians take it to, like, give it as gifts to people. Like, it's like a souvenir.” (36:02)
  • Also discusses superstitions about sex before sporting competitions.

7. Clams vs. Oysters: The Seafood Smackdown

• An impassioned and hilarious defense of clams over oysters ensues:
  • Ali: "Oysters have incredible PR... but I would argue I like clams better." (54:10)
  • Debates about aphrodisiac reputations, PR status (“oysters are nepo babies, clams are commercialized!”), and culinary versatility.
  • Hannah: "If it smells like a clam, go to your doctor." (55:45)

8. Cooking Updates, Family Dynamics, and Gossip Logistics

• Paige cooks bolognese for Hannah’s husband, Des, leading to jokes about “sharing a husband.”
  • Reflection on home-cooking struggles and passing down family recipes.
  • Strategic, “chess-like” methods for gossip distribution:
    • Ali: “You have to know in your gossip like webs, what hits a dead end. Like, you're a dead end for me. Like, once I tell you, it dies there.” (48:38)
    • Hannah: “If I want someone to know something... That’s like strategic gossip.” (48:46)

9. Live Show Antics & Nana's Cameo

• Hannah recaps her chaotic Long Island stand-up show, audience participation, and family in attendance.
  • Ali: “So everyone’s staring at my parents while I'm making, like, insane jokes about sexting... my nana's there, and at one point, I just have to shout it out, and everyone starts chanting, 'nana.'” (52:21)
  • Nana emerges as an honorary squad icon, with protective fans and inside jokes about Threads drama.

10. Classic New York Moments

• After the Michael Kors show, a random NYC encounter highlights city life:
  • Ali: "I'm standing there looking gorgeous in my trench coat and some guy on a bike... he goes, 'Where were you?'... I was at the Michael Kors show. And he goes, 'I love Michael Kors. What a great performer.'" (56:41)
  • Hilarious confusion about designer vs. musician, culminating in a quintessential “only in New York” goodbye.

11. JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette Show

• The latest miniseries gets a quick review:
  • Hannah: “The aesthetic of the show is phenomenal. Like, you very much feel like you’re in New York City in the 90s.” (58:42)
  • Buzz over actor portrayals, the “blonds only” bachelor, Jackie O references, and dreamy Manhattan nostalgia.

12. Final Notes: Books, Cooking, and Giggler Connections

• Paige discusses attempting to finish "The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo" and laughing about her reading level, with input from listeners and a “legitimate literature teacher.”
• Jokes about “sharing a husband,” giggler family bonds, and love for the community.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ali on Couples Therapy:
  “If you're under 27, you should not be going to couples therapy. Get a new man.” (03:06)
• Hannah on Drama:
  “I have to slam at least once every fiscal, like, quarter.” (03:54)
• Ali on Clams vs. Oysters:
  “Oysters have incredible PR...but I would argue I like clams better.” (54:10)
• Hannah on Strategic Gossip:
  “If I want someone to know something...that’s like strategic gossip.” (48:46)
• Nana's Cameo:
  “And then I have to shout it out, and everyone starts chanting, 'nana.'” (52:21)
• Ali's NYC Encounter:
  “‘I was at the Michael Kors show.’ And he goes, ‘I love Michael Kors...what a great performer.’” (56:41)

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Major Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:04] — Hot takes on couples counseling
• [05:16] — Olympian’s dramatic public cheating confession
• [12:42] — Trench coat fashion analysis and Fashion Week stories
• [22:15] — Cardi B’s fame and inspirational arc
• [24:09] — ANTM documentary breakdown and reality TV trauma
• [36:02] — The real story behind Olympic condoms
• [54:10] — Oysters vs. clams debate
• [56:41] — Michael Kors/Michael Bolton mix-up — peak NYC moment
• [58:42] — JFK Jr. series review & 90s NYC nostalgia

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Takeaways

This episode is a perfect snapshot of Giggly Squad's signature dynamic: unfiltered, ping-ponging between self-mockery and sharp cultural commentary. From dispensing semi-serious relationship advice to reminiscing over pop culture artifacts, Hannah, Paige, and Ali invite listeners into their friendship’s inner sanctum—complete with Nana tributes, strategic gossip, and deeply held opinions on everything from clams to clothing.

For Giggler fans and anyone who missed out, this episode is peak chaos, cackling, and cultural catharsis.

Transcript

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[Ali]

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[Paige]

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[Ali]

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[Hannah]

Yeah, that's. Yeah.

[Ali]

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[Hannah]

Sitting at this table, I don't know why. I feel like Jane Fonda. Like, girls like women look at each other when they're speaking. They face each other.

[Ali]

What do you think about those, like, intimacy rules for couples where they're like, before you go to sleep, you should stare at each other for 30 minutes and don't say anything.

[Hannah]

One time I dated.

[Ali]

Yeah, it's called marriage.

[Hannah]

One time I dated a guy and he made me go to.

[Ali]

What'S it called? Therapy. Yeah. School. I don't know.

[Hannah]

I was trying to think of couples counseling.

[Ali]

Stop.

[Paige]

My lip. I can't.

[Hannah]

Anyway, and one of her, like, exercises one time, and I think it was the moment that I was like, this guy is not for me. She was like, turn all the lights off. And, like, for 30 minutes, lay in bed and, like, stare at each other. And I was just like, no.

[Ali]

Can I have a hot take?

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

If you're under 27, yeah. You should not be going to couples therapy. Get a new man.

[Hannah]

I actually have an even hotter take. Not to out do you, but. But I think going to couples counseling or therapy even, like, before you're married is like, a little bit of a red flag. I mean, and people are like, no, no, no, it's really good. Right before you get married, like, to be able to talk to each. But I am almost like, oh, everyone.

[Ali]

Has their different, different idea of love. Some people love, to them is fighting for it. And being like, this clearly isn't a fit, but I love this person. I'm going to try to make it work out. And that's.

[Hannah]

Yeah, like, I need a little bit of jealousy and like, a little bit of, like, yeah, no, it's good to.

[Ali]

Have a little bit.

[Hannah]

I need, like, a little bit of fighting.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Ali]

You don't want it to feel perfect. That's so boring. So boring. You love to slam a door.

[Hannah]

I have to slam at least once every fiscal, like, quarter. I have to get really pissed, like, every once every three months where I'm like, I'll leave.

[Ali]

You have to threaten. Yeah.

[Hannah]

You know, you have to.

[Ali]

You have to. You have to just keep them scared. I have to make a quick update. I apologize. I said that Lewis Hamilton was tall. I. I don't know what I talk about when I speak about men. I just assumed.

[Hannah]

I don't know what came over you.

[Ali]

And one thing about me, you can never assume a man is anything.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And turns out he's 59 on Google, which means he's 5 7. So he's not tall.

[Paige]

Right.

[Ali]

But neither is Kim.

[Hannah]

But we're praying for good things for him.

[Ali]

Kim is like, five two. Yeah.

[Paige]

She's tiny.

[Ali]

Five two and a half on a good day. Six.

[Hannah]

Speaking of men, we didn't get to talk about it last week because we had recorded a little bit early, but the Olympian who cheated on his girlfriend.

[Ali]

And told the world. So I screenshotted to actually get the data correct.

[Hannah]

Well, I screenshot it because the quotes are so insane. He's a Norwegian Olympian. He won bronze. He said. I told her a week ago. And it's been. And it's been the worst week of my life. I had a gold medal in life. And there's probably a lot of people out there who look at me differently now, but I only have eyes for her. Sports has taken a. A bit of a back seat these.

[Paige]

Past couple of days.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I wish I could share this with her. I'm not ready to give up. I hope that committing social suicide like this might show her how much I love her, which, that's just like, insane. I accept the consequences of what I've done. I regret it with all my heart. Maybe I'm dumb as a rock, maybe I'm a member of Mensa, but I. I still do stupid stuff.

[Ali]

This is a Wendy. It's giving Erika Jayne. He was shot. His tongue was shot and then he rolled his ankle. What did she say?

[Hannah]

Tom's in a car accident.

[Ali]

Okay, so the messed up part about this is like, this girl did not want to be a part of this narrative.

[Hannah]

Like, here's my thing.

[Ali]

I'd be like, I got Sinai to the whole world. Like, she was actually trying to work it out with them, I think, and like, figure out where they stand. And he just word vomited to the world. But you know what? This is a classic. Like, you feel guilty, don't make it everyone's problem.

[Hannah]

If I were her, I would stay gone. I mean, that is so embarrassing.

[Ali]

It's embarrassing.

[Hannah]

It's also very clear that he has zero self regulation to his own emotions. Who gets in front of live TV and just says, actually, can I get something off my chest really quick?

[Ali]

I guess in his head he thought it was like a rom com moment. Like a guy with a radio outside of someone's house. Like in the.

[Hannah]

Look at the power of women. Bronze.

[Ali]

Bronze. Well, that's what I was going to say. No one's coming back when you got a bronze, babe. Third place. That's not even second. Third place. That's barely you. Like, you barely made it. You barely.

[Hannah]

You were. They were like skinny teeth.

[Ali]

So these winter Olympians, can I just say. No, I can't watch the violence anymore. People are getting guillotined. Like, I'm watching. I'm obsessed with it and I will turn on any sport.

[Hannah]

Did you watch the Lindsey Vaughn, like, when she really crashed?

[Ali]

No. I'll like, puke. I'm an empath.

[Hannah]

You know what's funny is like, I was with a group of people and I was like, we could watch it, like, right now on tv. And everyone was like, I have to look away. And I was like, what? We have to.

[Ali]

Because they were too nervous for her. And then she, like, lost a leg.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

So I have these. I love these winter sports because they do these insane jumps when I tell you they're building things where, like, I wouldn't even stand on these things. Might as well slide all the way down and then jump up. And these girls are so badass. Like, in another life, I wish I was like a cool ski girl. Like, yeah. Jumping around. But when they fall, they have to bring the camera away because they don't know if the person's dead or not.

[Hannah]

No.

[Ali]

Like, they're jumping like crazy and they land on their fucking head. And they have to get the camera away because someone's just lying there, like, not moving. And you have to. There's always like five minutes of like, are they alive or not? The freaking girl on the half pipe thing landed on the side of the half pipe and, like, almost guillotined her body in half. And I'm just trying to watch a nice sport.

[Hannah]

I'm just trying to get through the day.

[Ali]

And I feel like the Summer Olympics is not like this at all. They're just like jogging, right? And these ones, at least they get.

[Hannah]

To jump in a pool every once in a while. They're doing. They're doing something called the butterfly. It's very beautiful.

[Ali]

Yeah. They're getting a tan while they do it. Yeah. And these people, too. It's such niche sports that, like, they can't do it for a living. So these guys and women have like full time jobs. Like, they're like, she's a teacher by day and at night she does the double luge. Have you seen the. We need to do Hannah Paige. Try the double luge. You just have. You put someone on a luge and then someone just sits on them who is like, you know what make this better?

[Hannah]

Sit on top of if I can feel the weight of another human. Actually, your nightmare, that's my deluge. And the physical being in that close of quarters. And your bodies have to be on the same timing.

[Ali]

Don't.

[Hannah]

No, they don't. Well, they don't give not one sparkle. No. Well, no, I meant like, they're so tight.

[Ali]

Oh, yeah. There's no room for error.

[Hannah]

Yeah, there's no, like, comfiness.

[Ali]

You can't bloat without. There's no forgiveness. Anyway, how was your fashion week?

[Paige]

Hi.

[Hannah]

How are you?

[Ali]

How are you?

[Hannah]

My Fashion Week was good. I actually didn't do much this year because, well, I didn't want to. I was like, you know what?

[Paige]

I have to go.

[Hannah]

But my Tresemme stuff was so fun. And I went to the Christian Siriano show, but other than that, I really was like, I don't.

[Ali]

You posted a cool outfit with, like, a zebra skirt today.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I just really like that town to like different stuff.

[Ali]

Oh, okay. That was just.

[Hannah]

That was just a Nana Tuesday.

[Ali]

See, I love that outfit. Thank you so much. I also love an outfit that you have coming out shortly every Wednesday. What? You have an outfit that you're going to wear soon. That's really good.

[Hannah]

Oh, yeah, I do.

[Ali]

Stay tuned.

[Hannah]

Okay, so I sent Hannah an outfit picture of something for, like, in a couple of weeks. And Hannah texted me back, and she was like, look, I don't know if you want to hear this, but I love it. She's like, I don't know what that. But take it as you will. I think it's gorgeous.

[Ali]

The fact that I would wear the shit out of it. Like, I don't know if that's gonna turn you off from it, but I just. I'm very excited. I think it makes you look gorgeous. I saw Michael, of course. Michael Kors.

[Hannah]

Yes. How was that?

[Ali]

He's amazing. I didn't get to see him, but that was also my fault. I didn't go to the after party. Cause I have social anxiety.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Ali]

But they put me next to Teffy and Brittany Broski.

[Hannah]

So you had a good seat.

[Ali]

Incredible seat. But for some reason, I was like, where I was sitting when everyone was walking in, I was like, the first person people were seeing. So, like, I became, like, the host. I became, like, the greeter. So they were like, really?

[Hannah]

You were ushering to their.

[Ali]

Like, Mary J. Blige comes walking and sees me, and I go, hi, Mary. And then I'm like, am I supposed to get her a water? Like, I'm. I became the. Like, I also think I have a welcoming face. Like, I was in a good mood.

[Hannah]

No, you have an approachable welcoming face and aura.

[Ali]

So I was like, guys, I can't talk right now. I'm welcoming people into the show. So that was fun, but it was a very cool group of people.

[Hannah]

Like, it looked.

[Ali]

It just. Just really badass women.

[Hannah]

And how'd you feel about your outfit and your hair and makeup?

[Ali]

Like, well, people, like, went nuts over the trench coat. I do have to say, I think back in my day, I was like, I hate when people just Say, like, I look good. Love it. Love when you guys wouldn't.

[Paige]

Would.

[Ali]

Didn't I say that back in the day?

[Hannah]

I don't know. But, like, what a crazy difference between you and I. I was like, look, you want to be seen for more of your art.

[Ali]

Basically. The gigglers are so funny on my page, and they still find a way to, like, make it funny, but they are complimenting me. And I feel like they love the trench.

[Hannah]

I can't respond to them because I'm like, God forbid anyone ever screenshots this. But, like, they're so funny.

[Ali]

They entertain each other. And they'll be like, wait, guys, these comments are really. And then it keeps flowing. Like, I got crazy momentum of the funny comments on the trench coat one. And the different ways they find to, like, compliment me. Like, what do I do to deserve this? Like, I always feel like I'm not worthy, but the gift syndrome. I love a trench because I feel, first of all, you cinch it.

[Hannah]

Why we're sitting at this table today to really emphasize.

[Ali]

Well, there's something about a trench. It really makes you. You feel investigative. No.

[Hannah]

You feel professional.

[Ali]

You also feel like. Like you're. You've secrets.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

You feel like I have. Clearly, I have a schedule. Yes, you will. You know, it's like I'm in a trend, and I.

[Ali]

In case it rains, I am prepared. Like, you just. I just felt really prepared. I also think my fashion would be better if I wore things that made me uncomfortable.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Ali]

And I happen to find that trenches are so fucking comfortable.

[Hannah]

Trench also gives, like, lost baby or dog coming up to, like, if you're lost, you're going up to the person.

[Ali]

In a trench, and I'm pulling out, like, anything you. Carmen San Diego.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah. You have, like, a pen and a notepad and you're ready.

[Ali]

Yeah, I actually also, I. When I was outside, there's always, like, fashion photographers, and they kind of came out of nowhere because sometimes they don't come, and then sometimes they do a little. This was crazy. And I think because I'm late all the time, like, they all were bored, and then they all started attacking me. I accidentally FaceTime Lois. So I'm holding my FaceTime all these cameras. I hear Lois, what's happening? Like, she was like, are you okay?

[Hannah]

And then Lois, like, you FaceTime like, Lois's iPad or something.

[Ali]

Like, FaceTimed her mom.

[Paige]

Oh.

[Ali]

Oh, Lois.

[Hannah]

Get your aunt.

[Ali]

And did I tell you that I was hanging out with Lois and I had. I wasn't wearing a lot of Makeup. And then I did put on makeup and an outfit. And I walked in and Lois, you know, she's observant.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Oh, you're all excited.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I'm excited. She looks at me and she's like.

[Ali]

And she says, you're gonna. I don't know where she learned this word. She goes, I'm concerned.

[Hannah]

That's my child. That's my baby.

[Ali]

When I visited, she goes, hannah, remember when you put on makeup and that outfit and I was concerned Jeannie fell off the table.

[Hannah]

Like, was she concerned about she. Because she doesn't know what concern means. No, she knew.

[Ali]

She knew what it meant. As in, like, she didn't like it. Like, I think it was jarring that I suddenly had a different outfit on and she didn't.

[Hannah]

Like when, like, your dad shaves his beard and you're a baby and you like, you can't.

[Ali]

Exactly, exactly. So now when I put an outfit together, I send it to Lois and Lois, like, the trench.

[Hannah]

Oh, good. Wait, I'm obsessed with that. That's so sweet. That's so sweet.

[Ali]

And I was getting my makeup was. I have a daughter.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And she was on FaceTime and she was obsessed with watching them put makeup on me. She's the girliest girl.

[Hannah]

I mean, seeing kids, like, seeing things through kids eyes for the first time, it's like, I get the whole motherhood thing.

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

You know, I'm like, no, I get it.

[Ali]

But then, like, when she gets like, upset about something, I'm like, I gotta go.

[Paige]

See ya.

[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

Like a midday pick me up and I like to do that with a fun drink.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Ali]

I'm obsessed with this. It's for a limited time, so run. It's a Valentine's Day favorite. Also, people don't talk enough about combining the fruit with chocolate in a smoothie is so good because I don't like it sometimes too fruity or too chocolatey. I want it mixed. I want the best of both worlds.

[Hannah]

Well, I always feel like when I, when I get a smoothie, I like.

[Paige]

Have to be like I have to.

[Hannah]

Have a banana and I have to.

[Paige]

Have blueberries and it's like, no, I.

[Hannah]

Really want chocolate in it.

[Ali]

I do feel like adding the strawberry makes it feel still like light and sippable. Like it's never too heavy. The tropical smoothies, it's always like the.

[Hannah]

Perfect amount and it's dark chocolate, strawberries, white chocolate, banana and non fat yogurt.

[Ali]

Oh, so perfect. So good. And honestly, I like to have it in the morning. I like to have it at night. As a dessert. Maybe I have a little between lunch and dinner. Smoothie keep me going midday. Look, there's no rules.

[Hannah]

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[Ali]

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[Hannah]

You can order ahead, take the scenic.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

I do have one thing. I've been watching TikToks of Cardi B's concert, and I've decided that I. I want to go to that concert.

[Ali]

You know, Cardi B is my everything.

[Hannah]

Like, I need to go to it.

[Ali]

Do you know that when I first got on reality TV and people were like, this is like, not a good idea. I used Cardi B as an example of what I wanted to be. Well, Cardi B was on love and hip hop, and now she's the number one selling rap artist.

[Hannah]

Wait, that's so true.

[Ali]

And I was like, you do the math. And they were like, I don't know how you have to do with Cardi B. And I was like, we're both from New York.

[Hannah]

The song she's playing at the concert was what I pre gamed to, like my whole 20s of, like, socializing. I feel like, revolved around Cardi B.

[Ali]

She's so good, and she is like, you can't look away from her as a performer.

[Hannah]

And I googled her the other day. We're the exact same age.

[Ali]

Really?

[Hannah]

And then that made me feel really inadequate. I was like, she has three babies, multiple Grammys. She went to the super bowl, broke up with her boyfriend at the Super Bowl. Like, she's busy.

[Ali]

She's busy. Oh, yeah. I don't. I don't know, but I'm on her side. Whatever.

[Hannah]

No, I'm on her side. And all I can think about was, and I don't know why this quote sticking out in my head, but Stefan Diggs, like, when they first started dating, said, like, let me heal you. And I knew in that moment that he was gonna do some really crazy.

[Ali]

Also, how do you find time to cheat during football season? I mean, I guess that's what they do, but, like, it's exhausting.

[Hannah]

It's like Yeah, I don't know when men have, like, jobs also, like, so public.

[Ali]

So public.

[Hannah]

It's like, wow, you really don't give a no.

[Ali]

And you knew Cardi B. Was gonna find out.

[Hannah]

So anyway, I want to give her money and go to her concert.

[Ali]

I would love to. Let's go to. Let's see Cardi.

[Hannah]

I'm gonna look up some, like, not right now.

[Ali]

Do it after the pot.

[Hannah]

Actually, I'm gonna look it up right now. No, I was going to my notes month.

[Ali]

Which refresher are you drinking?

[Hannah]

I have the strawberry dragon fruit refresher with sparkling water.

[Ali]

Love. I have the mango pineapple refresher with less concentrate and green tea.

[Hannah]

I drink a lot today.

[Ali]

I also watched something. I feel like I'm like, ahead of the game. Wait, I watched the entire Tyra Banks. No, I was documentary.

[Hannah]

If that's what it is. I started it. I started it early.

[Ali]

Holy.

[Hannah]

Okay, break it down.

[Ali]

I have so many thoughts. First of all, I didn't realize how much I watched it, because every clip I recognized.

[Hannah]

Yeah, you're like, yeah, I know that.

[Ali]

Like, these girls were iconic.

[Hannah]

When she cheated on her boyfriend.

[Ali]

Also, I wanted to note. When was this? Like, 2010. Like, when did it start? No, earlier. Okay. Yeah, 2000. No girls had filler or Botox.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

Especially in their 20s.

[Ali]

It was a crazy time where every People had small lips. Yeah. People had, like, people had wrinkle, a certain shape. Chin.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And it actually, like, made me yearn for that time of, like, if they did America's Next Time Model now all the girls would look similar.

[Hannah]

That's very true.

[Ali]

And yeah, it's like, oh, she's. She's a brunette or she's black hair. She's short, she's long hair. But a lot of girls have just the same beauty. Ideal. Now where back then she would find these girls that you're, like, unique looking, and then next thing you know, you're like, they're a supermodel. Yeah. So the craziest thing from it was basically. And there's so many crazy things. First of all.

[Hannah]

Wait, how many parts?

[Ali]

There's three episodes.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Ali]

The craziest thing is that Tyra is, like, narrating. But it's kind of a hit piece on Tyra, and Tyra doesn't know. Like, Jay Manuel basically says he tried to quit after 10 seasons. And she basically responded saying, like, I'm disappointed, and they were best friends. And then he ends up. The network begs him to come back. He's like, fine. She doesn't talk to him. Not on camera the entire time. So then they go, tara, what happened with Jay? And she's like, I'm not talking about it.

[Hannah]

She won't talk about it. In the documentary.

[Ali]

In the documentary.

[Hannah]

So something happened.

[Ali]

He basically was like, I was psychologically abused after that. But no, the tea is crazy.

[Hannah]

But then from the woman who brought us hot ice cream, also, people don't.

[Ali]

Talk enough about Ms. J. Do you remember Ms. Jay?

[Hannah]

Of course. The Runway extraordinaire.

[Ali]

That chemistry of the three of them was just magical. And then they threw in Nigel Barker, who's, like, the hottest Australian guy, and they were really magic. But Tyra pitched this show from just an idea of, like, I want to show that the modeling industry can be open to more diversity. Yeah.

[Hannah]

And it's really, like, the pioneer of that, though, I will say so.

[Ali]

A lot of the stuff that she had dealt with in the industry, people think, like, she wasn't fully healed from it all. And then she was trying to, like, solve it and fix it.

[Hannah]

I definitely didn't realize back then that the show was her idea. I always thought she, like, some. She was just the host. And then, like, she became a producer, that it was like, she, like, pitched.

[Ali]

Everyone, and they all said no.

[Hannah]

So much money off of that. Well, then it became like, every country.

[Ali]

Every country, yeah. Then I started realizing, like, it got to the point after it got so popular, they just had to make things crazier and crazier, and it was. It stopped being about, like, creating great models. It was just for, like, crazy moments. And also, they're clearly not picking the best photos from these photo shoots. Like, they pick a photo, your neck looks bad, your hand looks bad. I'm like, then don't pick that photo. Like, as someone who's done a photo shoot, there'll be one good photo from the whole thing. And it's like, yeah, obviously, I blinked. Sorry.

[Paige]

I blinked.

[Ali]

And so that was crazy. And they just always had the cameras going. And it's classic reality tv, where they would pick stories for each girl, and it's like, they'd be like, you're the fat one. No. And she's like, you're. And this girl's like, I'm really. And the girl's really skinny, and they're like, you're fat. And they'd show up, and they'd be like, did you eat a lot of dinner last night? And the girl would be like, what? But like, that she realized, like, oh, that's a story. They're like, the narrative they're putting on me. And they had this one girl eat a bagel and they kept reshowing her eating this bagel, trying to make it like she just couldn't stop eating bagels. And she was like, it was one bagel. I ate one bagel once and I was like, I got a girl. But no, it was fucked up. There were many horrible things that happened on the show. It is. Look, there is a little bit of a reality TV reckoning that is happening where, like, we're looking back being like, oh, we abused the hell out of these people. And the truth is, a lot of these girls were, like, coming from, like, small jobs. Like, this one girl worked at Walgreens. She's like, my life's gonna change. But some of their lives got worse after from the trauma from the show. And then basically, the fashion industry did not respect whoever won America's Next Top Model. So some of the winners were like, right, yeah. If you think about it, they got nothing. They got nothing.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And I think it's unique that me and you are talking about as2 Reality TV'. Ers.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

There's certain people that if they don't like how you got there, they'll never respect on.

[Hannah]

I mean, I feel like I could count on my hand the number of people that have crossed over from reality TV to mainstream television.

[Paige]

Really? Actually.

[Hannah]

I'm actually drawing a blank. Kim Kardashian, would you say she's mainstream? Like, actor, actress, though?

[Ali]

She's working on it.

[Hannah]

She's working on it. But. And that's 20 years later.

[Ali]

It's funny, you know Eva.

[Paige]

Yeah. Oh, yes.

[Hannah]

I would say she's the biggest one.

[Ali]

But she became reality. She went on to do reality. She went on Housewives, but maybe she did act before that.

[Hannah]

She did, yeah. No, she did. She still does.

[Ali]

There were, like, a handful of girls, but they did 25 cycles, babe. 25.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God.

[Ali]

Then do you remember the insane makeovers?

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Which again, we love to makeover during that time. And it started just being like, we're bleaching her hair, we're cutting her hair short. SOBBING Then they started doing dental work.

[Paige]

What?

[Ali]

One girl was in the dentist's office for 24 hours. They, like, fudged up her teeth. She like her jaws, like, never going to be the same. Her. She has a problem with her bite. It's never.

[Hannah]

They gave her, like, veneers.

[Ali]

Yeah. They shaved her teeth down. Yeah. And then another one had a gap and Tyra basically was like, I'm voting you off unless you fix your Gap. And the girl's like, I love my Gap. And it's so funny. Tyra's like, you'll never be in a campaign with a gap, even though now get the London look. Like, that's all. I think.

[Hannah]

Revlon get the London London.

[Ali]

But then the next season, the next season, she's telling a girl to get a gap because it'll be more iconic.

[Hannah]

So it was just like, now a lot of fuckery.

[Ali]

It was a fuckery. But the truth is, is, well, reality.

[Hannah]

TV is just such an interesting beast in itself. I think it's so funny how they're not funny, but it's fascinating to watch the disconnect from reality TV to the viewer. Like, there is such a crazy disconnect. Like when you're watching a scripted show, you're like. And they're acting. I'm not going to go on their Instagram and be like, you fucking suck. Because you play Steven on Tell Me Lies. Like, you can detach that. That's an actor.

[Ali]

Yep.

[Hannah]

But with reality tv, people can't do that because you're like, no, you did that. And it's like, okay, but I didn't edit it like that. And there's just. I don't know why there's such a disconnect, Especially because we live in a world where it's like, there's social media and it's like we find out the truth about everything, no matter what. People will, like, break things down, but reality TV is just like, they haven't figured it out. They haven't figured it out because the.

[Ali]

Viewers, we don't want to know the truth.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Ali]

Even if when people are like, this is what happened, it's like, no, no, no. Because then I'm an idiot.

[Hannah]

It's a version of what happened, but it's not fully what happened.

[Ali]

There's. There's a scene when Tara.

[Paige]

Tyra.

[Ali]

Tyra is yelling like, I was rooting for you. And that book went viral. But then they basically said, like, it was so much worse.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And obviously the scene got cut down. Like, whenever you guys see, like, a horrible scene that lasts two minutes, that could have been an hour long of chaos.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Ali]

So that's really. That's my biggest thing with reality TV is, like, there are things that are said that really affect people's reactions, but you never see it.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Ali]

One thing also that was just horrible was this girl who worked for Walgreens, the one who cheated. Yeah.

[Hannah]

Shandy Trigger warning.

[Ali]

She was essayed. And then the morning they were like, filming her. Like, you have to call him. Then she had to film the guy. Her calling the guy, asking if he had a std. Like, this is like, the most traumatizing things ever. And there's a power dynamic here.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

You're not gonna tell a producer, right? No.

[Hannah]

It's like, okay, well, we'll replace you in a second.

[Ali]

Then they get off the show, and she even was like, I want to go home. And then they're like, fine, you can call your boyfriend. Like, there's. There's a power dynamic where these girls are not actors with agents in a TV show, where they can say, I don't feel comfortable with that.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Ali]

You are just being forced around.

[Hannah]

Let's not to mention, they were probably, what, 22, 23? Maybe they were. One was 25 or 26.

[Ali]

They were babies. Well, one of them was getting inappropriately touched by a male model, and she was like, what would Tyra do? Tyra would respectfully speak up, and she spoke up, and they were like, you need to learn how to deal with that. It was like. It was chaos. It was pure. But we were younger watching that stuff. And don't you remember the scene when she cheated? Like, how traumatizing that was? So then she tried to, like, fix her relationship, and she said she'd be walking down the street and people would yell at her, cheater, whore, slut. And they had to break up.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

So anyway, that's the tea.

[Paige]

So.

[Hannah]

Anywho, wait. I can't wait to go home and watch that.

[Ali]

It's really good. But it is.

[Hannah]

Wait, do you think Tyra's pissed?

[Ali]

I think Tyra's in Australia. Yeah, Tyra's in Australia.

[Hannah]

She's married, Right? She just got. She got married, like, recently. I feel like in the past couple of years. Moved to Australia, started hot ice cream. Yeah.

[Ali]

But it is interesting how I do think she became this character.

[Hannah]

Like, this, like, this, like, mean. This, like, mean hoax.

[Ali]

This, like, knower of all, like, very powerful.

[Hannah]

Like, yeah.

[Ali]

Caesar character.

[Hannah]

Like, when she talks, she talks, like, mystical. Do you know what I mean?

[Ali]

She likes to keep it slow.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Like, and talk like this. I believed in you.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

I trusted you. And then she smizes.

[Hannah]

That makes me uncomfy.

[Ali]

Yeah, but it is.

[Hannah]

But none of this would have even happened had Covid not happened, because people didn't really go back and, like, re watch and be like. That was kind of up until we were, like, locked in the house. And that's what Tyra said.

[Paige]

Really?

[Ali]

She was like, during COVID everyone started seeing it from a new perspective.

[Hannah]

That's when I first started seeing, like, this was not cool.

[Ali]

But the second it aired, people were addicted. I. You know, it was good if I watched it, because it had to be, like, super popular for me to find.

[Hannah]

Well, it was on the cw, I think.

[Ali]

Yeah. And all the girls are just, like, in this house.

[Hannah]

I loved it because I loved anything, like, super girly like that.

[Ali]

Well, you also probably wanted to go.

[Hannah]

On it so badly. I wanted to go on it so bad. I think they even did, like, a model search in at, like, my local mall. But I was like. My mom was like, no, you're not going to that.

[Ali]

Malls are for shopping. I realized something.

[Hannah]

Wait, before you say that, can I just go to one of your note things that says condoms at the Olympics? Because I'm just like, would love to know the thought process.

[Ali]

Oh, I have. I have the gossip about it. I feel like giggly squad is me just going around the world trying to figure out stuff and then being like, guys, this is what I figured out.

[Hannah]

Then you're just telling me.

[Ali]

So everyone's like, oh, they went through 10,000 condoms at the Olympics. Apparently, there's boxes around. And the Olympians. I think one of the ice skaters was saying, the Olympians take it to, like, give it as gifts to people. Like, it's like a souvenir.

[Hannah]

Say, 20, 26.

[Ali]

I think it does. So it's like a funny souvenir. So, like, they're not going through it. They're all just, like, taking it home. I mean, I do think.

[Hannah]

I didn't know that was a story.

[Ali]

Well, they say the Olympians, like, it gets crazy in the Olympic Village. They're all just, like, hooking up with all this testosterone.

[Hannah]

Now there's a reality TV show, 100%.

[Ali]

However, I also know a lot of these athletes are weird about sex and competition, where they're like, won't do it before. Yeah. Like, they don't want to feel weaker or something, which is such a man thing.

[Hannah]

Like, it takes your adrenaline away.

[Ali]

Yeah. Or, like, your energy that you might need.

[Hannah]

I'd be like, trust me, I'm not gonna come anyway. You're gonna be fine. I'll be fine.

[Ali]

It's only the men that are like, I can't do this before.

[Hannah]

It's like, okay, I have some mental brain power.

[Ali]

I told you. There was this track guy at Wisconsin that he was like, I can't. I can't orgasm. And I was like, you're like a Loaded gun right now with a woman.

[Paige]

Or.

[Ali]

He told me he doesn't jerk off. And he was like, crazy. Like, we'd kiss and he'd be like. And I was like, you need to go to the bathroom and deal with that yourself, babe.

[Hannah]

That's so ungod.

[Ali]

He was literally a loaded gun walking around. And I was like, just jerk off. That's your only problem. But. Or people get superstitious about it.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Ali]

The athletes. It's like, I think I can't. I realized that Landman and Yellowstone.

[Hannah]

Same guy.

[Ali]

Not the same show.

[Hannah]

Not the same show, but the same person wrote both.

[Ali]

What's the difference?

[Hannah]

One is on a ranch, like a. You know, I don't know. And then another one's, like, about an oil rig, like, on, like, in Texas.

[Ali]

An oil ranch?

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ali]

So one's an oil ranch and one's a Not oil ranch. Yeah.

[Hannah]

Yellowstone's better than Landman. Oh, I would say. But Landman's only getting two seasons.

[Ali]

Landman's getting some, like, good chatter about it.

[Hannah]

No, it's definitely a good show. I mean, the guy that wrote it, he's basically like a version of my, like, Lord and savior Shonda Rhimes. He just must crunch Adderall and write these shows.

[Ali]

Speaking of reality tv, Kazi Randolph, the winner of Colton season, who we love. Her sisters Michelle Randolph starring in that. There is something about someone getting famous on reality TV and then their. Their sister and their sibling using that fame but going mainstream because they weren't on reality tv.

[Hannah]

Yeah. No. Pivoting. Pivoting careers. I feel like are we. Don't talk about that.

[Ali]

I love pivoting careers. I'll do it tomorrow.

[Hannah]

No, I love to see people that have, like, pivoted. You have to. You have to keep evolving.

[Ali]

That's why I don't play pickleball, because I'm afraid once I start, I'm going to get hooked because I actually have a lot of friends who are on the pickleball tour right now since I.

[Hannah]

Stay on Colton's Neck. And I haven't even watched Traders this season. I did see a thing where they filmed the reunion, and it was actually Lisa Rena, like, did a Instagram story and she's basically like, I brought up what you all wanted me to bring up. Now if you. Again, if you see it, I have no idea, like, how it will be edited, but the rumor is, is that he walked out of the reunion and then, like, came back and no one could.

[Ali]

I had a nickel and no one.

[Hannah]

Could Bring up that he's a stalker. Like, I don't know. Isn't that crazy?

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Men get away with anything at a reunion.

[Ali]

Rin is getting ahead of it.

[Paige]

Well.

[Hannah]

Well, because she's a reality.

[Ali]

She knows what to do. She knows exactly what.

[Hannah]

She knows what the people want to see. She knows what the kids want to see.

[Ali]

Yeah. I'm still the problem with traders recently is that they voted off Candace.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

It's left with the quieter personalities, even though Maura is not quiet and no one's showing Maura.

[Hannah]

Well, you know what else is interesting that I feel like happened during COVID People went on like real tirades for reality TV of like, get rid of the villain. And it's like, okay, but if we get rid of like your so called villain, there will not be a show.

[Ali]

Yeah. You know, well, what they don't realize is when you cut the head off a villain, another villain needs to come.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Ali]

There always has to be a villain.

[Paige]

Right.

[Ali]

And. And people. Yeah, they loved being like, this person's the problem. Yeah, but then how come there's problems every season?

[Hannah]

Yeah. Like there's gonna be.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And that person's gone.

[Ali]

Do the math. Carry the one.

[Paige]

Right.

[Ali]

Divide by two.

[Hannah]

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[Ali]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

And where else are you going to.

[Paige]

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[Ali]

Another random thought.

[Hannah]

Yeah, and then I have something.

[Ali]

Oh, you go first.

[Hannah]

So the other night, dez, your husband, if you didn't know who I was talking about, dez, wanted to come to my building to use one of my amenities, to use my cold plunge. And I said, des, I actually made dinner. Would you like to have Dinner after, like, you use the cold plunge. He got. Like, he got off a flight. I think he got off a flight. He never ended up using the cold plunge. And he came, and he had dinner at my apartment.

[Ali]

Well, I find out that behind my back, Paige is cooking homemade meals for my husband because he's not getting taken care of right now. Let's be honest.

[Hannah]

I mean, a bolognese?

[Ali]

Well, he texts me thinking, I don't know what's going on. He's like, hey, Paige asked me to go to dinner. I'm like, you don't think I know these things? You're the last to know.

[Hannah]

Well, I've been trying. My goal that I set in January, but I didn't start till February, which it's okay to start your 2026 goals in any month.

[Ali]

Normalize.

[Hannah]

It doesn't have to be in January, and if you don't start in January, it's not like you can't do it.

[Ali]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I wanted to make something. Cook something once a week. And Sunday just seems to be the easiest Sunday sauce to do because you have all day to, like, mess it up and, like, try something else. So I made bolognese for the first time.

[Ali]

Did he compliment it?

[Paige]

He did.

[Hannah]

But here's the thing.

[Paige]

It was, like, a little.

[Hannah]

It was, like, a little bit watery. And my mom was like, well, why didn't you call me and ask me what I like? And I was like, because I was trying to do it on my own, you know?

[Ali]

And she's like, no, babe, don't try to be a hero.

[Hannah]

And I realize it's really hard to cook.

[Ali]

I love, like, when your mom is cooking a meal you love, and you're like, one day, I'm gonna do it, and you're watching it, it seems so easy. It seems so simple. And then when you're alone, you're just scared.

[Hannah]

She makes everything so easy.

[Ali]

Oh, Kim. Everyone loved the page and how to try new things with Kim. And it was one of my favorite episodes.

[Hannah]

Do you know that my dad re. Watches it probably at least every other night? He says, can you bring up the YouTube?

[Ali]

I love him so much. Also, Kim did not let us touch the food. And at that point, I was like, oh, this is her art. And she's like, don't disrespect my art in my own home. And I was like, go off.

[Hannah]

Kim didn't really break that down, you know? Like, she really. She really was like, don't touch anything. You'll mess it up.

[Ali]

You know, maybe she'll give us another try. But I don't think we've, like, proved anything to her since. No, we've probably.

[Hannah]

If anything, she was like, I was right about you, Jennifer.

[Ali]

This weekend. I actually, you know, tour can be lonely, as you know.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And you know, me and Ally are just running around right now. When Ally gossips to me, she has to decide if she wants you to know about it or not.

[Hannah]

Are you kidding me?

[Ali]

Which is so annoying because I told her, one, you don't remember anything.

[Hannah]

One, I don't remember anything.

[Ali]

Two, you don't care.

[Hannah]

Who are you gonna tell?

[Ali]

No, we got in a fight in the car. She looks at me, she goes, oh, my God. Wait, you're gonna tell Paige, aren't you? And I was like, yes, but it doesn't matter. And then. And then I tried to lie to her and say I wasn't gonna tell you. And then she goes, now I feel like you're lying to me. And I go, well, I am. And I want to have trust in this friendship. I am going to tell Paige, but Paige is not relevant.

[Hannah]

The only time I get nervous about that is, of course people say, you can't tell anyone. And I'm like, I'm not gonna tell anyone. And then, like, you're by proxy who I'm gonna tell. The only time I get worried, the only time, is that you're gonna accidentally think, like, something's funny, and you'll slip it in and say something, and then you'll be like, I wasn't supposed to say that.

[Ali]

That's Hannah in her 20s.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Ali]

I've grown.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

I also. I was so proud of myself because Ali told me a secret about something, and then one of our other friends called her, and Ali looked at me because she started bringing up the topic, and I didn't. I actually kept the secret.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And she, afterwards, was so proud of me, and I was like, no, I've never kept a secret. And it actually felt so good. So I'm getting trusted, Allie.

[Hannah]

No, it really does feel good that.

[Ali]

I. I was like, yeah, I'm not going around telling your business because. Right. But I am telling it to Paige. Yeah, I am telling it to Des.

[Hannah]

But I don't count.

[Ali]

You don't?

[Hannah]

I don't.

[Ali]

You actually. You're so funny. You'll be about to tell me something, and then you'll be like, yeah, who are you going to tell? And then you'll be like. Like you don't know anyone. And you'll just.

[Hannah]

Who are you going to you tell them, like, whoever you're going to tell, it doesn't matter.

[Ali]

You have to know in your gossip, like webs, what hits a dead end. Like, you're a dead end for me. Like, once I tell you, it dies there.

[Hannah]

Here's one thing that people don't talk enough about too, how, like, women are so smart. If I want someone to know something. Now, that's, That's. That's like strategic gossip where you're like, I know if I tell this person, she's not gonna keep her damn mouth shut. And I know it's gonna get back to this person and I want that person to know.

[Ali]

And that's.

[Hannah]

And it's usually just, I want them to know. I don't fuck with.

[Ali]

That's. The strategies of war that you're discussing. Like, you literally are playing chess.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, hey, let me plant this seed with that person that I hate them.

[Ali]

It's. That is. That is smart, actually. And I'm so scared of you sometimes. Anyway, we're on.

[Hannah]

And anyway, I have camaraderie with Ali.

[Ali]

Yeah, I had a. We had. I had such a Fun show in D.C. and Philly last night. I go to Long island and I'm tired.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Third City, three days in a row. Long island is so fucking funny. First of all, the stage was like a circle. So it was like Gladiator, like, but, like, for clowns. So walk in and two guys are sitting next to each other. And you know, that pisses me off more than anything.

[Hannah]

Do you know the first stand up I ever saw was. I was gonna say Dave Matthews fan. What is the guy?

[Ali]

Dave Chappelle?

[Hannah]

No. Who's the guy that, like, got a bunch of plastic surgery and now he doesn't.

[Ali]

Oh, Dane Cook.

[Hannah]

Dane Cook. And he was on a circle stage. And I always think of it anytime I see everyone.

[Ali]

Special double you. Yeah, I think I have to shoot a special in a circular.

[Hannah]

CDs are in his car. You actually said that to me. So many.

[Ali]

I'm sorry. Like, that special was iconic. I don't give a what anyone says. I almost dressed up as Dan Cook for Halloween.

[Hannah]

Don't. We've got enough going on with you.

[Ali]

So anyway, also, I don't know what he's up to anymore. Some.

[Hannah]

Oh, the last I heard, like, his brother, like, stole all his money or something crazy. Yeah.

[Ali]

So I was in the middle. I see these two guys sitting next to each other and I'm like, if you guys aren't gay, we're gonna have a problem. And the guy, this Long island kid, is so funny. He's like, you know, I had a date, but then she saw me on one of those Facebook pages.

[Hannah]

Am I dating the same person?

[Ali]

Yeah. And everyone goes, oh. Then another girl.

[Hannah]

Are those real?

[Ali]

Yeah. Another girl starts speaking up. Like, it becomes full Judge Judy. And, like, the Long island girls are like, we'll take care of this for you, Hannah. And this girl goes, I know him. And I know he was talking to my whatever. And he's like, I'm. I'm.

[Hannah]

I'm always happy.

[Ali]

I just met someone. I just met someone. I'm talking to multiple people. And it got all. It was Jerry Spring, right? But it was very, very funny. But then, because it's around, I decide I have a victim, right? Like, he's my victim. I'm gonna, like, tear this guy apart the whole time because, like, he's loving it.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Matt. Typical Matt.

[Paige]

So.

[Ali]

But at one point, I'm going. I'm talking in the round. And then I literally am trying to find Matt. I got lost, like, because everything.

[Hannah]

You got motion sickness.

[Ali]

Couldn't find Matt. And I was like, did he leave? And they're like, no, he's over there. Couldn't find my footing. And then.

[Hannah]

Well, you have no directional awareness.

[Ali]

Exactly.

[Hannah]

You don't drive.

[Ali]

I didn't know where I was from the beginning. How was I gonna find my way home, right? So then it's a circle. It's a circle. But then everyone could see each other. And guess who was there. Full family. Mom, dad, Nana, Papa. So everyone's staring. Yours? Yeah, everyone's staring at my parents while making, like, insane jokes about, like, sexting in front of my dad. And my nan is there, and at one point, I just have to shout it out, and everyone starts chanting, nana.

[Hannah]

Oh, that's so sweet.

[Ali]

She's like, I can't hear anything.

[Hannah]

What are they saying?

[Ali]

After Threads, they said, justice for Nana. And she just wants that you guys know. She loves the fans. She loves all of you. She wishes she could make you all a chicken parmesan.

[Hannah]

Whatever happened with the threads thing? The Gigglers took care of it.

[Ali]

Took care of it?

[Hannah]

No, they're literally like henchmen.

[Ali]

Well, I mean, she's a. People are bullying Grandma. Like, we all have to put up at some point.

[Hannah]

No, it's insane.

[Ali]

Look, I don't think she even knows that happened on Threads we try to protect her from.

[Hannah]

Honestly, I'm 32. 33. I'm 33, and I don't even know how to work Threads. Like, if something was happening about me on threads, I'd have no idea. Thank God, and I need that.

[Ali]

But the problem with threads, because the algorithm, it recommends the worst things for me when I'm scrolling Instagram. So it'll be like me looking at, like.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

Chrome lamps and cats. And then suddenly it's like the word. The person I hate most in this.

[Hannah]

World said the dumbest joke, said the.

[Ali]

Stupidest thing about you, and then I have to be like, don't recommend. So, yeah, the phones are killing us slowly. Now, this brings me to the most important point of the night. Oysters. Do you like oysters in your heart of hearts? Like, you would never. Last meal, an oyster?

[Paige]

Never.

[Hannah]

If I really broke it down, what I like is vinegar. I like the accoutrement. It's the vehicle for the sauce.

[Ali]

The sauce, yeah. Now, I would argue I like clams better. Well, yeah, they're sweet, they're cute, they're small. They're adorable.

[Hannah]

They go in pastas.

[Ali]

You can't put an oyster in a pasta.

[Hannah]

No, you can't.

[Ali]

This is the thing. Oysters have incredible pr.

[Hannah]

Well, the whole aphrodisiac sets them light years apart.

[Ali]

Yeah, aphrodisiac. But then nautical clam doesn't. Aren't they, like, cousins?

[Hannah]

Well, both bottom feeders of some kind.

[Ali]

Yeah. But, like, oysters are out here, regal.

[Hannah]

Happy as a clam. That is. That's.

[Ali]

That is. But I feel like they got. They got pigeonholed in that they got typed. Their. Their team was like, you're just. No one takes you. You're not elevated. You're very takes. You're commercialized. Meanwhile, oyster, they're doing fashion week. They're in Paris.

[Hannah]

Oysters is over there with caviar and.

[Ali]

Clams is like, oysters are coming in, you know, a seafood tower.

[Hannah]

They're at weddings.

[Ali]

Yes.

[Hannah]

No, they're at galas where clams.

[Ali]

You know, occasionally in Montauk, but it's not. You don't see clam bar.

[Hannah]

Well, clams would be at a picnic table. You're not having oysters on a picnic table.

[Ali]

And yeah, oysters are a little bigger, but like, I'm telling you guys, clams are where it's at.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And flavor wise. And then. Have you ever boiled a clam? You can boil them.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Ali]

And you put them in butter.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

They're so good.

[Ali]

So good.

[Hannah]

So, I mean, I. Justino. Hello. Although, have you ever had oysters Rockefeller? Again, great pr.

[Ali]

Is that just. Yeah, Rockefeller elevated. Rich oysters come from money. Thank you smell it?

[Hannah]

They're Nepo babies. Yes, they're Nepo babies. Like the Rockefellers have nothing to do with oysters. And the oysters are like.

[Ali]

Oysters have fucking pearls. Someone's opened a clam and you're just like, is that sand? Not exactly.

[Hannah]

It's like it smells. If it smells like a clam, go to your doctor.

[Ali]

It smells like a clam. Yeah, we can. And oysters are jewelry.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

For royals. I actually have one more Michael Kors thing.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

So after the Michael Kors show, I walk out and this was the most New York thing ever. I'm standing there looking gorgeous in my trench coat and some guy on a bike, who. I'm not gonna say he lived on the bike, but let's just say don't know what he was doing on the bike. He wasn't like working or anything. He just like stops right in front of me. But you know what? It's been a long night and I've been socializing already. I'm like, what's one other person? Yeah. And he goes, where were you? And I'm in front of Lincoln center and I go. I just look at this guy. I'm like, there's no way he's gonna know who this is. And I just go, I was at the Michael Kors show. And he goes, I love Michael Kors, by the way. He's like a. I'd say like a 50 year old man.

[Hannah]

Good guy.

[Ali]

I love Michael Kors. I think he was a little drunk. And I was like, oh, yeah, amazing. And he's like, you know, what a great performer.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Ali]

That's when I realized, like, oh, he thinks. And he knows I've been to a Michael Kors show back in the 80s. And I was like, cool. So we get into it, you think it was. I was like, maybe Michael Buble, but I don't think Michael something.

[Hannah]

Michael Bolton.

[Ali]

Maybe Michael Bolton. Yeah, maybe Michael Bolton. But he was like, these stories about how great Michael Kors is in concert. And I'm sitting there in my trench and I'm like, we gotta wrap this up. And then he's like, how long was the show? And I was like, actually, only like 12 minutes. And he was like, wow. He used to do two hours. This conversation went on so much longer than it should have. But in that moment, I was like, I can't wait to tell the Gigglers about this beautiful New York City moment. And then my car came and then I said, sir, have a great night. And he said, you too. I'm so happy you had a great time at the show. I said, I'll see you at the next Michael Kors show. Thank you.

[Hannah]

And that's the epitome of New York City.

[Ali]

And that's the thing. You don't have to understand each other to get along.

[Hannah]

No, no, wait. Last thing and we'll end here. Have you watched any of the JFK Jr. And Carolyn Bassett show?

[Ali]

Well, I'm a little annoyed because I very recently watched the JFK junior Documentary. So I feel like it's so fresh. I don't want to like, compare the two, but Ally's been watching it and she's obsessed with it. It's good because you love a period piece.

[Hannah]

Well, it's not like period. It's like in the 90s. But you don't know what they were really like because there really is no.

[Ali]

Press of them and she did not want to be photographed.

[Hannah]

Yeah. And so you kind of take it with like a grain of salt that that's how she was. But I do think the acting is good, is really good. And he's very good looking.

[Ali]

And this is Ryan Murphy, right? When does Ryan Murphy sleep?

[Hannah]

No. Who knows?

[Ali]

Because, you know, he has Kim on the phone every three seconds with another idea and then he's doing all these like, serial killer things.

[Hannah]

The, like, the aesthetic of the show is phenomenal. Like, you very much feel like you're in New York city in the 90s. It actually made me, like, upset because I was like, wait, it would have been so cool to live in New York in the 90s and be like in your 20s. It looked so fun.

[Ali]

And RFK Jr. They didn't really have security. They would just like, try to live a normal life. Even though he was like the most famous bachelor in the world. Yeah.

[Hannah]

Well, there was no social media, so it was like real paparazzi. And he dated like a very famous.

[Ali]

Name, a Donna or something.

[Paige]

He dated this girl.

[Hannah]

Her name was Daryl Hannah.

[Paige]

Do you remember?

[Ali]

Yes. Yes. Yeah.

[Hannah]

You know who she is?

[Ali]

The mermaid.

[Hannah]

Yes. That was like her, I think, biggest role.

[Ali]

She's. She's been in other things too.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I think she was then like, went on to like marry someone else.

[Ali]

He loves the blonde.

[Hannah]

He. Well, that's one, one takeaway.

[Paige]

He loves the blonde.

[Ali]

He loves a blonde. But he, he. That. Yeah. That is a beautiful man. But what a crazy story.

[Hannah]

Yeah. And then they have like someone who plays Jackie O. It just, it seems like they had like a tough. I just, I don't know how they did It.

[Ali]

Oh, yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch that.

[Hannah]

No, it's good. There's three episodes out.

[Ali]

And how's your book going? Just to wrap this up. Have we made any progress?

[Hannah]

We're at a small standstill. No, I'm reading seven Husband's about Evelyn Hugo.

[Ali]

Are you reading it, like on planes? Are you reading on planes or are you ipading?

[Hannah]

No, I'm ipading on planes. I haven't gone full rogue. Except I'm flying out to LA next week, so I might. I might bring my book. The Gigglers truly are so funny. Like, I'll get messages and then I'll get messages like, when? Then we'll talk about it on the pod. And then I'll get messages of girls being like, okay, I didn't want to insult you and your reading level because to each their own, but, like, I think you're correct and like, that book is like, a bit too hard for you. And then I had like, so cute. Then I had like a legitimate, like, literature teacher. She was like, wuthering Heights, stick to the seven husbands. People must get it out and be.

[Ali]

Telling you not to try to read Wuthering Heights. And I was like, don't worry, she'll know real soon in that first paragraph that she's not gonna make it.

[Hannah]

She was like, I'm a literal professor and it's a very hard book. Like, not the beach read you're looking for. Anyway, I'm just trying to like, well, maybe I'm cooking, I'm reading.

[Paige]

Who is she?

[Ali]

I don't know, but would. My husband wants me to cook a home cooked meal now cuz of you. So we'll discuss that later.

[Hannah]

My husband.

[Ali]

Your husband. We share a husband. That's Giggly Squad. Thank you guys for listening. We love you so much. Special thanks to Duncan for supporting us this episode. And we'll talk to you later this week. Episode two coming out soon. Bye.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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