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Hannah
Pancetta mushroom tortellini. You can eat smart, still fit in your bikini.
Des
I ordered Blue Apron.
Hannah
I've been happy ever since they sent pre portioned meals. I don't make no measurements. Saute the pancetta, then I add the mushrooms. Large skillet cause you can't have too much room. Garlic pesto, tomato paste, Calabrian chili. Season the taste, order Blue Apron.
Des
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Paige
Gary, fix your wi fi.
Hannah
Manifest that shit. We can't be manage.
Paige
I mean the day just got away from me.
Hannah
Hello, my grizzly gigglers.
Paige
Wait, I need to get my phone.
Hannah
Oh my God.
Paige
Well, because I just like I have things.
Hannah
I have. Oh, you do?
Paige
Well, I have notes and stuff.
Hannah
I have. I was in the car on the way to the Teen Vogue party. Sorry, I just love saying.
Paige
What is that?
Hannah
Selena Gomez is like, oh, I got a little blue my hair on the way to the Teen Vogue party. We messed up.
Paige
Yeah, we messed up today. First of all, this is what we get. Wait, first of all, I'm wearing a YSL windbreaker.
Hannah
First of all, everywhere you walk today, you got a compliment. Also, her hair is tucked in like Mary Kate Ashley Olsen. She's obsessed with herself. But you also don't feel like talking. You just want people to look at you today.
Paige
Yeah, I wish. I like, I feel like my voice is different. I'm like, like it's. It's smaller. It is when I wear this outfit.
Hannah
Not to defend you and your obsession with outfits, but the right outfit really makes you feel like it's not good. That girl. No, in a good way.
Des
Okay, thanks.
Hannah
The right outfit makes you like believe in yourself.
Des
Yeah.
Paige
But the wrong Outfit ruin.
Hannah
Cancel everything.
Paige
I've, like, broken up with boyfriends, and, like, I just can't. I'm overstimulated and my outfit sucks, and everybody knows it.
Hannah
You walk in and I'm like, everyone's whispering about my outfit. That's actually happened to me, though. That's in your head. That's my reality
Paige
today. Me and Hannah went shopping this morning.
Hannah
What can I just say?
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Not to get deep, but I feel like me and you have, like, never been more in love with each other. Yeah. We're, like, obsessed with each other. We're so close, like, like, on a soul sister level right now. And we've been, like, making time for each other, which we've never done.
Paige
The other day, you said to me, if I wanted to stop being your friend, I could have years ago.
Hannah
No, I was just saying we've chosen. We've chose each other. Like, no one forced us to be friends.
Paige
Each other?
Hannah
Yes. I mean, people forced us to possibly not be friends at some point.
Des
Totally.
Hannah
And we. We fought against.
Paige
We. We rose above.
Hannah
We rectified. I don't know if that was the right word, but yesterday you're like, let's go to dinner. Yeah. Now, let me just say, you ordered wine.
Paige
I was feeling crazy.
Hannah
Crazy. And then I got scared. I didn't want to order wine, but I saw they had a coconut drink. One thing about me, I love a coconut drink, but it came in a full coconut. And let me just tell you, it's very hard to have serious adult conversations while you're holding a full coconut.
Paige
No, we were the video of, like, the waiter coming over at the most horrible point.
Hannah
And, like, he sees me with a coconut. He thinks it's an easy.
Paige
He thinks it's fun, it's dirty. It's like.
Hannah
And she's like. And then when the lawsuit got involved, she said, then she lost all her children.
Paige
So anyway, I'm sending a cease and desist.
Hannah
And also, this wasn't just like, any coconut. It was like a pumpkin.
Paige
Yeah. It was massive.
Hannah
At one point, everyone was talking at the dinner. And I go, I'm holding the coconut. I'm speaking. Unless you have the coconut in your hands, you can't speak.
Paige
That was the funniest joke of the whole night.
Hannah
I know. Actually, I didn't even talk that much last night, which I'm proud of myself, because sometimes in a group dinner, I don't know how much to talk. I feel like I talked the right amount. Like, I left the dinner being like, I didn't Overdo it.
Paige
Great performance.
Hannah
And I had some of the, like, top hits of the night.
Paige
You did.
Des
You.
Paige
You had the.
Hannah
I got, like, two applause breaks.
Paige
Yeah, you had laugh breaks. You guys monopolized the whole conversation.
Hannah
I was obsessed with you and Des because you're very powerful separate, but when you're together, you're, like, too powerful. And you were, like, scorpiing it.
Paige
Well, we were also sitting across from each other, so it was like I could only look at him, truly. And so I was just like, paige
Hannah
is fully interrogating Des. I'm drinking from my coconut. And it was getting kind of. It was like. Like Barbara Walters were indeed. Because DEZ has so many great stories. But then it made me laugh. You were. You waited till I was married to a man for four years before you changed his. You, like, put his name in your phone.
Des
Yeah.
Hannah
And that's so real.
Paige
Yeah. I, like, just recently saved it, like, not that long ago.
Hannah
It's true.
Paige
And it went to, like, I had it saved, but it was like, dez, Hannah's boyfriend, Summer. Like, I have to write all these. And then it became DEZ Bishop as of late, because I was like, yeah, he. He's a person. And you should recognize that once the
Hannah
marriage is, like, four years in, it was a little bit of a Covid meeting. I understand.
Paige
I can't believe you're married for four years. Like, I feel like my parents will go out and, like. Like, my mom is me. Like, so I know, like, when she goes. My favorite time of year is, like, my mom's. My dad's high school reunion. It's like, oh, my God. Like, I can't not my mom's high school reunion. Like, different. My dad, like, when he has one, I'm like, we're picking out her outfit. We're like, it's just, like, a whole thing. But I feel like when my parents talk about, like, going out and, like, they've always had good social lives. Like, even when I was younger, they would always go out to dinner, like, with someone, Saturday nights.
Hannah
That's so funny.
Paige
Then, like, for the longest, they didn't. I feel like that was, like, when I was, like, middle school, high school, and now that, like, they were stressed
Hannah
about you, God forbid they left, you'd get a tongue piercing.
Paige
But now that they're, like, in their 60s, I feel like they, like, socialize more than ever.
Hannah
Yeah. And, like, my parents are partying.
Paige
Yeah. And, like, my mom will call me, and, like, we talk like girls, you know, and she'll be like, and I feel like she was, like, hitting on your dad. So obviously, like, I had to go over and be like, hello. And I'm like, stand up for yourself, right? And she was like. And you know dad, he always plays dumb. I'm like, and I hate when he does that. So, like, I feel like, as, like, you will always have a crush. It's the people that take the crush to the next level.
Hannah
I remember the first time I realized my dad realized another man was hitting on my mom. And I was, like, so proud of my mom. I was like, good, make dad jealous. Yeah.
Paige
I'll never forget one time I went out with my parents, and we were in Saratoga, and we went to. There's, like, after you go to the racetrack, there's like, a couple bars that you go to that are, like, honestly dirty. Like, it's like you're in the dirt, but everyone's dressed up and, like, drinking from plastic cups. But it's just, like, the vibe. And so there's one that's like, a little more adult, called Ciro's, and then there's another one that's, like, a little bit more rambunctious.
Hannah
And this is your, like, home court.
Paige
It's like my home court. Like, if you go to the one, it's like full high school reunion. So, like, I avoid it sometimes because I'm like, who knows?
Hannah
I'm obsessed with small town stuff like this.
Paige
Yeah, I feel like I did kind
Hannah
of have, like, a small town, but it's like, you knew everyone there.
Paige
And I'm standing, and this was like, right when I turned 21 and, like, would go out with my brother. There were times where we'd be like, let's bring mom and dad. And we would go to, like, a dinner or something. But anyway, so we're at this bar, and this guy's walking up to me, and, like, my parents are behind me, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, this guy's walking up to me. He's gonna be, like, hitting on me in front of my parents. Like, this is, like, so embarrassing. But, like, he was hot. So I was like, well, they're gonna have to deal with it. Like, look alive, dad. And this guy comes up to me, and he's chatting me up, and we're, like, chatting, and he goes, and the woman behind you, who is that? And I'm, like, looking around, and I, like, see my mom. And I'm like, who's behind me? And he's like, the woman, like, wearing black. I'm like, My mom. And he's like, well, sorry. I didn't know it was your mom. Like, is she single? And I was like, my dad is, like, right here. And it scarred me. So I was, like, disgusted. I was. So I was like, this is the worst thing ever.
Hannah
See? Every guy's obsessed with my mom. Welcome to my life.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Every guy I've ever dated, after they meet my mom, they go, wait, so your mom's you? Except she, like, has her shit together.
Paige
Yeah, mine's the opposite. Every guy I've ever dated hates my mom. And then, because she calls you out on your bullshit, my mom literally one time said to a boyfriend, were you a fat child? And now, like, you think you know how the conversation's gonna go after that, like, because it's just so awkward.
Hannah
But Kim's a silent killer. Like, that'll be the only thing she says the whole night.
Paige
No, I know for a fact that man thought about it three weeks later and was like, what'd she mean by that? And I was like, she meant what she asked. And he was like, I actually was. And she goes, yeah, you act like it. And I was like, oh, my God. Because honestly, he was, like, so crazy about things I ate. And she didn't like that?
Hannah
No, my mom. Oh, I had one of those guys.
Paige
Yeah. And so she called him out without calling him out. Like, don't project. Don't project your shit on to my daughter. She can eat whatever she wants.
Hannah
Oh, my God. My. My mom and I had the same thing. And I said, he wants to help me be a fitness model. And she said, you're eating pasta. Yeah. Guys would, like, go to my mom's house and be like, it's so clean. I'm like, yeah, my mom's really clean.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
And then she'd like, you know, she just is fully domesticated while also being successful while also being beautiful. And they were like, so you're missing a couple.
Paige
So did you think this will come
Hannah
with age or also, by the way, when we go off about our moms and parents on this podcast, I always get a call. I got a call actually yesterday being like, hey, some of the stories you told. Not true. She goes, first of all, I didn't dress you before you went to school.
Paige
You know, when you were telling that story, I thought, I don't know if Lenore would have done that.
Hannah
I didn't put you in jeans to bed. She goes, that was when you were an infant. And I was like, okay, why did I think I was 17 when you did that. And she was like, yeah, so sorry.
Paige
I thought that was before a tennis match in college.
Hannah
Also, apparently my dad dropped her off to a date to break up with the guy. But then, like, it's okay. Hung.
Paige
What are they going to do another time?
Hannah
Anyway, Like, I got to see some assistance for my mom again. My mom is like, I'm laughing so hard listening to you. Like, almost get it right. Like, it's so close. Like your heart is there.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
No, I every now and then, too. Like, parents are crazy. Like, she's like, I got a Facebook message from, like, my middle school boyfriend. And I'm like, I'll kill him.
Paige
No, that's so insane.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
It's so insane to think, like. Well, because here's the other thing. At some point, your spouse passes away.
Hannah
I'm very aware.
Paige
And I'm like, who's checking in when I first get single? And I'm like 75 and, like, still look good.
Hannah
Well, one of the most fun things about getting married is, like, first of all, you're unavailable to everyone. So you feel like around men you're just so calm.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Even if they don't like you, they start liking you because they know you're unavailable.
Paige
Well, you take away the whole, like, all the time.
Hannah
I used to stress about my crushes, which was a lot. I'm not pretending I was fully boy crazy.
Des
Yeah.
Hannah
Now I spend it stressing out about other things, which has, as a result, has helped my career. No.
Paige
That is so beautiful.
Hannah
So, like, when you're. When I was single, I deal with so much bullshit with the dating, which we all do. And now my bullshit is in other things. I'm not saying, like, I'm happier. It's just relationships caused me no drama anymore.
Paige
That's nice.
Hannah
It's like, it's just very calm. And I hate to say it. I used to call my mom for everything. And now I have des.
Paige
Lenore, if you're listening to this.
Hannah
No, but now Lenore can have her own life. Like, Lenore has a sewing club. She's in historical society. She's actually. She's very busy.
Paige
Lenore, what is the historical society? Like, what is she doing? She giving tours.
Hannah
Oh, my God. There's a house on Shelter Island. Shout out. Historical society. And she loves history. And actually, I don't know what those girls say,
Paige
so you're going to have to call her an ad.
Hannah
Next there's this old house from, like, I don't even want to say a date because I'll get it wrong. But, like, I don't know, 1700s. And they preserved outfits that they found.
Des
Wow.
Hannah
And they dress up people in there you would have loved.
Paige
We did love stuff like that.
Hannah
The outfits like that. But, like, then I was like, on Halloween, like, that shit's haunted. That's scary.
Paige
No, I love, like, a mansion tour of, like, I was just going to say JG Wentworth. Why did that pop into my head? Like. Like, the Vanderbilts or something? Like, my mom used to make us do that so much when we were little.
Hannah
And I go to, like, historical things.
Paige
Yeah. Like, go to, like, different, like, tours of things.
Hannah
I was so annoying on tours because, you know, when they were like, does anyone have any questions? I was like, it's my time to shine.
Paige
Which is so crazy that we're best friends, because I'm just like. I rather puke.
Hannah
Oh, I'm such a Leo son. That, like, when it wasn't about me, I was like, well, someone needs to hear from me.
Paige
Even like, when we're on Zooms, and it's not like we're like, we're insane on. Well, it's like, I don't feel bad not asking a question because it's not like I'm, like, interviewing for a job or something. It's like people are explaining stuff and then like, they're always like, do you have any questions after? And half the time I wasn't even listening because I'm like, someone is going to call me after to talk about
Hannah
this anyway and give me the spark notes.
Paige
But, like, I would die. Sometimes I have a question, but I
Hannah
feel like we've helped each other. Like, you have a calmness to you. Like, I'll start a call.
Paige
And I'm like, yeah, because I'm not listening, and you're just.
Hannah
You're spaced out. I don't know. You're actually texting.
Paige
I'm disassociated.
Hannah
So then. Then I like to ask questions, but I like to wait for you to ask the one question, which is normally like, who are you people? Why am I here?
Paige
Well, I always feel like you're gonna answer. You're gonna ask the question that I would have. So I'm like, I don't actually have to do it because she's gonna do
Hannah
it, and that's why we work well together.
Paige
Wait, I had a giggler. DM me because we were talking about my. Or what our big three were the other day, and I just found it interesting because a lot of girls were like, wait, I have your exact.
Hannah
Yours.
Paige
Yeah. What did they say her name's Taylor underscore astrology. She said giggler here. Random astrology thought after you mentioned not identifying with Aquarius rising on the pod. Sometimes the rising sign is more how other people experience experience us than how we feel inside. I actually see Aquarius in you in a really cool way. You're always ahead of trends. Very innovative. Daphne. Pajamas that double as an outfit is very Aquarius. You're quick with observational humor and you're great at stepping back and reading group dynamics. Aquarius has the ability to detach and see things from a bird's eye view, which can be as helpful balance for Scorpio sun and Pisces moon. Like a mental zoom out button when the water gets intense. Also, Aquarius tends to enjoy others who beat to their own drum. AKA might be a little quirky and I just thought that was sweet.
Hannah
Wait, she's talking about me? Yeah, I'm obsessed with that because I just went on tick tock.
Paige
You do beat to your own drum.
Hannah
Well, I just got this is what comes in my algorithm. Me. Because I'm too weird for the popular girls and too popular for the weird girls. And I go, that's weird. So I go into the comments and everyone goes. Someone goes scorpio rising core. And then someone goes leo Sun, Scorpio rising. And that's me. And I was like, oh, that's literally me. So astrologically things are going well, thank God.
Paige
And it's all that is.
Hannah
I don't give a. I care so much about astrology.
Paige
I don't go, I love me too. It's just because it's branded as women and that's why people are like, grow up. Did you see DOA Cat? Did you see it? Or you're just laughing at the segue?
Hannah
Well, I love that doja Cat. You won't hear from her for months and then she'll come out with like the craziest quote and then get herself into a drama that she never had to be involved in. Like she was at peace. But she's like, I want to know what's her chart is.
Paige
Yeah, I would love to know what her chart is.
Hannah
What did she do?
Paige
She basically did like a full when she said the whole thing about Timothee Chalamet and was like about the ballet and the. What was it? Opera. I guess Kylie Jenner had commented her insta or her TikTok wherever she had posted it and Kylie said calm down. Lol. And so then I don't know if this is why doja Cat didn't an apology. But then, like, seemingly a couple hours later, she did like, an apology. And the apology was. I have to admit, I've never been to the ballet and I've never been to the opera. I actually screenshotted it because I thought it was so, so interesting what she actually said. And she basically said that she did it for clicks.
Hannah
And I think she felt guilty because she realized in a second ago it could have been her saying something that everyone was jumping on, and she felt bad. So I think she was trying to, like, fix her karma.
Paige
I've never been to the ballet. I've never seen an opera. And took it upon myself yesterday to kind of give it to the man. Because there is a culture. There is culture based around outrage. What I was doing yesterday was virtue signaling because I wanted to connect. And I knew that Timothy. Timothy's goof up was something that I could leverage in order for people to connect with me. It's a modern way to garner clicks, likes, approval and kinds of things like that.
Hannah
I'm actually obsessed with her.
Paige
She kind of did. Not intentionally, but unintentionally did a social experiment and just proved that, like, I mean, I feel like because we're from reality tv, we can see it so clearly that, like, one person can mess up and it could be, like, maybe not that bad and then. But people just feel part of a group when they, like, pile on top of that person.
Hannah
Also, when someone does something wrong, your algorithm will be full of people that agree with you. That agree with you. And also, you get the most clicks when you're speaking on an issue. That's like hating on someone.
Paige
That's why, like, I don't understand how anyone's taking anyone seriously. That's like, I asked Chat GPT all my questions. It's like, okay. But it's programmed to, like, eventually start agreeing with you.
Hannah
It's very strange.
Paige
It's very strange. I'm like. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. I'm like, what are you talking for
Hannah
everyone online who's like, their job is, like, calling people out and critiquing.
Paige
Whose job is that?
Hannah
Well, like, some. Like, some people.
Paige
Oh. Media is just like, see?
Hannah
And that's because they want their own fame.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Like, no one.
Paige
Actually, I'm gonna be honest. I didn't, Like, I had to reread Virtue Signal.
Hannah
I mean, it was.
Paige
I was like, what does that mean?
Hannah
I. She's saying, like, she was pretending that she, like, really cared about the art of it. But then she knows deep down she feels. She doesn't feel a type of way about it. She just wanted attention. And then I think she felt guilty.
Paige
Some people are like, wait, what? Other comments are like she's playing 4D chess. Like people should be as self aware as her. Just interesting.
Hannah
Yeah, it's funny because if you think of whenever anyone posts something, there's always a reason. They want to make someone jealous. They want to make someone laugh. Sometimes they want views. And I know as a content creator, sometimes I'm like, okay, what do people want to see? If I wanted views, whatever drama is going on, I could just give my take on it. That's how I actually would get views. But I don't want to be a part of that anger economy.
Paige
I post to look at myself.
Hannah
I know. I watch it. I look at you. Look at yourself.
Paige
I'm posting today because I want to see this outfit on a big screen.
Hannah
Next time you post something online, figure out like why you're doing it and make sure there's good karma behind it because that bites you in the ass.
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Hannah
Are you aware of the David Protein drama?
Paige
No.
Hannah
Oh, my God. You'd love this.
Paige
What?
Hannah
Okay, I'M gonna, like, butcher this.
Paige
I'm not big into. Unlike the. I'm not big in the protein community.
Hannah
I get so many memes that are like, the world's falling apart, but at least we have protein popcorn.
Paige
Yeah, it's just, like, everything has protein in it. And I'm like, how much was I lacking?
Hannah
It's a.
Paige
Like, I like, oh, my God. You guys are really serious.
Hannah
It's a trend, I think, because a lot of people are on GLP1s, and when you're not eating a lot, you're not getting enough protein.
Paige
Got it. I just saw a thing that said that they were, like, doing studies and, like, ozempic is, like, making your bones brittle.
Des
Yeah.
Hannah
Well, I think if you overdo anything. But I haven't done the science on
Paige
it all, however, thank God.
Hannah
But everyone, wait. I'll do the science eventually, and I'll let you know my report as woman in stem. So I'm very into protein bars. I love protein bar. Yeah. It's my thing.
Paige
Oh, my God.
Hannah
I've been. Well as a tennis player.
Paige
So you've been hiding this part in
Hannah
my bag right now. Like, I always have bronzy bar just in case I get hungry.
Paige
Are you doing protein powders at home?
Hannah
No, no, no, no, no. It's strictly.
Paige
Okay. Like, just a bar.
Hannah
Protein bar. Okay.
Paige
And what's your bar of choice right now?
Hannah
I really like those barebell proteins. It's always normally, like, a peanut butter.
Paige
Remember when you totally. What are the bars from? Calcium bars.
Hannah
Remember?
Paige
You totally. Calcine barred me on tour, so there's
Hannah
this thing called perfect bars.
Paige
And they're perfect.
Hannah
They're perfect. And they just taste like you're eating peanut butter. They're like, 400 calories. It's like a meal replacement. And I told you once, like, in
Paige
the airport, you were like, hey, those are really good. You should get them really good.
Hannah
Because sometimes in the morning, I don't want a full breakfast. I'll have one of these.
Paige
And I'm like, no, you were eating them in a school little bar. This is amazing. I'm gonna eat these all day long. And I'm eating them. And Hannah's like, how many have you had? And I'm like, I don't know. And she's like, those are 400 calories.
Hannah
Eat their meal.
Paige
I'm like, are you trying to move me up a weight class?
Hannah
Are you kidding? I go on this tour, we gotta be sturdy. You gotta pick up your luggage.
Paige
I'm like, I'm literally disassociating. From the world on this tour.
Hannah
Well, you're gonna die, and I'm gonna get this wrong, but there's this thing called David protein bars.
Des
Okay?
Hannah
You might have seen him around. They're the guys who did RX bars. Rx bars were the ones that are like, no. Yeah, I didn't realize that. I know so much about protein bars. And you literally documentary.
Paige
Like, I've heard of dating.
Hannah
You ever see the bars that say no BS on them? No. Oh, my God.
Paige
Yes, yes, yes.
Hannah
Like, dates, egg.
Des
Fuck you.
Hannah
And a nickel. That's like all that's in it. It's like cardboard and egg. At least we tell you what's in it. So I think they sold that for a lot of money.
Des
Okay.
Hannah
And then something kind of sketchy.
Paige
We're not done in the protein space.
Hannah
Something sketchy happened where they somehow claimed that a certain way they make their protein, they, like, own it and that other protein bars can't do it. So they basically were trying to take over the protein space by saying, like, we've.
Paige
Clothing lines have that too. Like, we've. We've made this whipped fabric that no one can use.
Hannah
Yeah, no one could use it. So that was weird. But still I was being dealt with. But then it comes out that they've been saying that it's like only 150 calories. And a report comes out saying that their bars are actually 250 calories and people are losing their mind.
Paige
Who's doing these, like, independent studies? Someone was just like, I've got a hunch.
Hannah
I have no idea what my sources are, but all I know is someone was like, hey, we tested it and the calories aren't also. How does anyone test calories? Like, how. So people are freaking out. They're like, this is.
Paige
Well, that seems illegal.
Hannah
Well, but then David just came back. I don't think his name's David.
Hayden
I don't know.
Paige
Is he?
Hannah
The actual Mr. David has come back and he's. They're like, actually, you tested it wrong. But it's gotten all blurry and people are aghast.
Paige
People are, oh, my God, I would be livid.
Hannah
And the protein community is like, the macros didn't make sense. This is weird. So at the end of the day, one thing my mom, who's a dietitian, told me is, just eat real food.
Unknown
Yeah.
Hannah
When in doubt, just eat real food. If you're like, should I have this fiber bar? Should have this protein bar. Eat a fruit, eat a vegetable, and let's move on.
Des
Yeah.
Hannah
So anyway, watch out for that.
Des
Wow.
Paige
I didn't expect.
Des
I was.
Paige
I didn't expect.
Hannah
I was like, a CNN today.
Paige
Yeah. To get, like, the workout protein lore.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
Speaking of food, did you see the McDonald's CEO, like, taking a bite of, like, advertising the, like, new burger? And everyone's like, he couldn't bite it.
Hannah
When I saw it, I couldn't. There's so much content, I can't get myself to actually watch.
Paige
But here's what I found interesting about it. And not even that, like, not even that, like, he didn't do it like a normal bite. He, like, bit it as if he didn't want to eat it. And that's.
Hannah
Billionaires don't know how to act as humans.
Paige
Well, here's my thing. Why do we give a about the McDonald's CEO, like, biting the burger? I don't care what's in it. I truly don't. I'm gonna buy it.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
I don't need. I actually don't. If there's one thing on the planet I don't need you to sell me, it's McDonald's.
Hannah
It's also.
Paige
I'm gonna get it.
Hannah
If there's one person who's not the McDonald's demo, it's the billionaire CEO.
Paige
I mean, it's just like. I don't even know.
Hannah
I don't know what that meant. But I also. Do you remember there was a Kim K ad where she got in trouble where they were like, she makes you beat down on that like it was some vegan burger she was promoting. Yes.
Paige
And they were coming.
Hannah
That.
Paige
It was like, beyond burger.
Hannah
Yeah. But also, when you shoot these commercials, you have to do it, like, 800 times. So she probably. I'm not.
Paige
I can't eat eating this. I think if I've ever had to eat something, like on a shoot, my
Hannah
biggest pet peeve is when there's a commercial where someone's, like, drinking water and you could tell there's nothing in the water bottle and they're fake swallowing everyone. Pisses me off. I'm like, got you.
Paige
Or like, sometimes when I'm watching TV shows, I'm like, what do they have in place of the alcohol?
Hannah
Apple juice.
Paige
Yeah. Like, what's in place of certain things?
Hannah
Champagne is apple juice. The little sparkling water. Water. I think.
Paige
I think you are right.
Hannah
Movie magic. I will.
Paige
Yeah. Like, set design and not set design, but, yeah, I guess set design. I am so fascinated by stuff like that. Like, I love watching people come in and like do.
Hannah
Well, there's food artists.
Paige
Yeah, food art. Food artistry I think is crazy.
Hannah
I love a food artist. Like how did we get here?
Paige
One time I was on a shoot. I forget what it was for but something was like sitting in ice cubes. But the ice cubes were fake, but they didn't look fake. And I was fascinated. I was like, oh my God. And I went up to the like food director and I touched it and she looked at me and she was like, don't ever touch that.
Hannah
I know. Your fingers, Tony.
Paige
I was like, I'm so sorry. I was just coming over to give a compliment. Now I have to go.
Hannah
No, that's like matters the most at a food shoot. Like the model's the last thing. Yeah.
Paige
They really do not ever look at her and touch her stuff.
Hannah
We had empanadas yesterday.
Paige
Yeah, we did.
Hannah
We had quite nice.
Paige
We had a flight.
Hannah
A flight of empanadas.
Paige
I don't think we've ever shared a flight of alcohol together. But we have shared a flight of empanadas and that's like way more important to me.
Hannah
Also our drinking days, we don't really remember. I used to drink.
Paige
Yeah, you did. That's why I was so.
Hannah
I was.
Paige
I couldn't believe you got a mocktail last night. Cuz I was like, let me set the scene. I'm going to get a cocktail. And I drank that whole glass of wine.
Hannah
So you know why? Oh, you know, I didn't. Cuz we had a big day today. Oh.
Paige
Cuz we had to go shopping.
Hannah
So this is where we up. We had so much fun yesterday together.
Paige
And then we said let's keep it going.
Hannah
We're like, let's. We could have.
Paige
We would have had a sleepover if like Des was.
Des
Wasn't there.
Paige
I would have been like, even with Des there.
Hannah
We were about to. But I. Yeah, I was like, we're going to go shopping. It's going to be so much fun. You got there at noon. I got there at noon. Thank God it started to rain or we would have kept going.
Paige
No, we would have kept going.
Hannah
But then I got home and I was like, I'm done for the day.
Paige
I'm exhausted.
Hannah
No.
Paige
Why is it that like I could do a million things from like 6am to 6pm yeah. And like be fine. And then it's like when you have a leisure day, you're like, I'm exhausted when I have to do time for anything else.
Hannah
Oh my God. I love answering emails and editing videos. Is My, like, relaxing state. Yeah, it's the best.
Paige
But if I'm on my computer and Kitty's on the ground, like, licking herself, I'm like, this is true happiness.
Hannah
Someone was saying how, like, kids nowadays don't understand what it was like to, like, be on your laptop in the bed, But I feel like millennials, we still do it. Well, you have your little iPad sometimes,
Paige
but, like, are kids not using laptops? I don't think they're watch.
Hannah
Bringing it in the bed. Like, when we're making a big purchase, we're bringing out the laptop.
Paige
Yeah. I've switched to making per. Like, flight purchases on my phone.
Hannah
True. Yeah. Well, the app is sometimes better.
Des
Yeah.
Paige
I'm like, I have to make the switch.
Hannah
But do you ever, like. You're like, I'm on my phone too much. I just need to watch tv. You're like, oh, I need to get off the screen and just watch it.
Paige
And just watch. Well, because my mom will text me all the time about my attention span.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
She's like, tick Tock's rotting your brain. You're not gonna have an attention.
Hannah
I just need to watch a movie.
Paige
I'm like, mom, that's for Gen Z, not me. I could lay in bed for eight hours. What are we talking about? You've been around.
Hannah
But, like, I literally met it. I'm like, get off my phone to meditate while watching, like, a nice wait.
Paige
Speaking of tv.
Hannah
Mm.
Paige
You rarely watch Love is Blind, right? Have you ever?
Hannah
I feel like after the first season, I was like, got it and good. Yeah, Yeah, I watch.
Paige
I've watched a lot of seasons. Not every season, because sometimes the casting is, like, so bizarre. But this year was. Or this place that they did it, they did it in Ohio. Abbey, Ohio, has a lot of famous people that come out of there, which I just find interesting. Anyway, I digress. So they're doing. Their reunion was last night. And I don't know what it is, but Netflix just really has not figured out the reunion. I don't. I honestly, I don't think anyone has figured out the reunion. But Bravo. Like, Andy truly is, as someone who's been at multiple reunions and then watched multiple reunions, he truly is the best out of everyone. Netflix no longer did it is doing it live, which, thank God, because that was like. I'm like, guys, no one can get a word in. Last year, they had, like, some man come and, like, play basketball in the middle of it. That was, like, so bizarre. This year, now, I'm gonna be honest I skipped through some parts because I was like, don't care about you. Don't care about you. Like, don't care about this. Like, okay, how do you really feel? She's like, well, they had so many, like, random interludes. And I was like, I don't care. Like, that's so happy for the people that used to be on. And they're, like, still married and thriving, but, like, I don't care. I want to get to the couples now. This is a very interesting show because it's hosted by Vanessa and Nick Lachey, who are a married couple who should not be hosting reunions. Like, I love them as the hosts. I love when they come in, are
Hannah
they getting along with each other?
Paige
Yes, but. Okay, here's why. Because they've.
Hannah
People love commenting on their relationships.
Paige
Sometimes they're quirky and look. And, you know, I love a quirky person. So, like, I've been into it for this many.
Hannah
We were raised on him and Jessica Simpson, so we're like, we know the lore here.
Paige
And I love Vanessa. Like, I've watched. Watched her on MTV Professional. Here's why I think it's weird when they do host the reunion is because he's a straight man.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
And she's a married straight woman.
Hannah
So they need a gay man is what you're saying. No, they need a woman.
Des
Well, here's the thing.
Paige
They need a gay man because a gay man can get away with way more than a woman ever could. Like, I could make a TikTok and verbatim say something about, like, someone's outfit, and girls would be in my. In my messages being like, that's the meanest thing. And it totally. It could have totally been. But if a gay man did it, it's, like, maybe a little funnier. He didn't really mean it. Like, he can just get away with
Hannah
more saying, as someone who's watching RuPaul's Drag Race every day, these men are so mean to each other, but they're so good at, like, making up and it being funny. If it was girls fighting, people would be murdered. But instead, it's, like, funny.
Paige
So.
Hannah
You're so right. The gay man is the perfect way. Like, Andy's able to say the, like, shady thing.
Paige
Be so shady, and people will be, like, clocked it. You're smart. Where if it was a straight woman,
Hannah
they'd be like, what's her problem with her?
Paige
So you're jealous of her. Yeah. So you're jealous.
Hannah
No.
Paige
That is, like, I didn't even.
Hannah
Right.
Paige
That's and with it being Nick Lachey being a straight man, sometimes he wants to go hard at the other straight men, which we want someone to go hard at them. But it almost feels like a little too much when it's like straight man on straight man.
Hannah
Oh, yeah. I don't want to see a war. I don't want a battlefield. Did we.
Paige
Yeah. Did they walk through, like, security check before they got here? Like, we can never be too sure.
Des
Hannah.
Paige
The other day I was in the park and I walked past three 14 year old boys and in my head I was like, they have a bomb.
Hannah
I'm not kidding.
Paige
I'm not kidding. They walked over to the trash can, put something in it. I literally go, we got to go.
Hannah
And he goes, I'm recycling, ma'.
Des
Am.
Paige
I'm like, I can't trust your kind.
Hannah
They both had picked up litter and threw it away that you dropped.
Paige
All three of them had blonde curly hair. Something was up.
Hannah
Well, they're getting perms nowadays. They're getting perms. The boys are. I'm not getting into. It'll upset me. I'm not getting the. Melanie.
Paige
I'm not getting.
Hannah
We did so much work that the gym.
Paige
I'm not even getting into that.
Hannah
I'm not getting into it. Hot take about men. This is a really hot take. You love them, you know, like a man's in jail.
Paige
Totally.
Hannah
I watch a lot, like serial documentaries. There's men in jail. They do all these things.
Paige
The other day, Grace texted us and was like, what are you guys watching? And I literally said back, like, rainbows on the shore of like, Canada or something. I don't even know. And you were like, death in the room.
Darina
Jesus.
Paige
To fall asleep Tuesday.
Hannah
So all these women will be like, writing letters to men in jail. And I always thought, like, okay, these girls are crazy. Then I realized maybe they're geniuses. Think about it. If your man's in jail, he's up to nothing.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
He's not showing up at your apartment. He also is dealing with. He's learned that there's repercussions for your actions. He is forced to go to therapy. He has some form of a job.
Paige
He's got structure.
Hannah
He's writing you novels.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
And like, he doesn't bother you, like, low key. I'm like.
Paige
Like, you could go and do whatever. He's not like, tracking your phone.
Hannah
He's not tracking your phone. He doesn't have a phone. He doesn't have a.
Paige
Some of them do.
Hannah
Oh. Because they stick it in Their butts.
Paige
I'm not exact. I don't think they can just get them.
Hannah
You're not gonna fight during that one minute phone call.
Paige
No, you're not.
Hannah
You're like, you don't even know him well enough. You're still in the, like, flirty phase. Like, you can't even get past the, like, cute phase because you only have a minute with him.
Paige
I am such a girls girl. I'm like, so for the girls, like, I really like, I believe them first. And, like, I root for them. Not all of them, because some of them are psychotic and crazy.
Hannah
Are you going for my girls who are calling?
Paige
If you're writing to a person in jail to have a relationship with, you're insane.
Hannah
Look, some people let them let her know that's crazy. Let him have a crush.
Paige
Like, okay, Actually this reminds me of it because I feel like I heard this and I never forgot it and it's stuck in my brain. Remember Lacey Peterson who got murdered by her husband?
Hannah
Yes.
Paige
When he went into jail, the amount of women that wrote to him was, like, insane.
Hannah
No, I know you randomly. Not like you saw a guy on TV who killed his wife who, like, looks like a bad boy.
Paige
How am I randomly happening upon inmate 302 in Poughkeepsie? Like, are you kidding?
Hannah
Look, it was a bit. It was a bit I thought was cute that you made dark.
Paige
You know what I do like, though? When you see a mug shot and you're like, okay, New York Fashion Week, actually, we could change your whole. We could change your whole situation.
Hannah
Men and women that have gone viral.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Remember that guy used to get discovered in malls. Now they get discovered with a viral headshot.
Paige
Do you remember the viral felon who married the heiress to top?
Hannah
He had gorgeous blue eyes. I remember.
Des
What was that?
Paige
What was that store? Why do I want to say top shot, Top shop? I was going to say top shelf.
Hannah
You can find out that he, like, knows how to write. Like, I've dated a couple guys where, like, I'm finally, like, hanging out with him and I realized that he. He doesn't know what punctuation is. I also think when you're writing to a guy in jail, as one does not about this. It's like when you over sex, like, you say all these things and then suddenly he's like, hey, I'm out. You want to hang out? And you're like, no, this is me having fun. I was just flirting.
Paige
What are your thoughts on, like, a conjugal visit?
Hannah
I think that's hot. Because it's like, you can't touch me.
Paige
No, that means you can.
Hannah
You could touch it. What does conjugal mean?
Paige
I think, like having sex. Like touching.
Hannah
Is that the thing, like in the back of your throat?
Paige
Conjugal people, fornication.
Hannah
You can't have sex with them.
Des
Yeah, you can.
Paige
In some jails. You have to be married.
Hannah
How do you know you have to be married? That seems up.
Des
Does it?
Hannah
Yeah. You should be able to have sex when you want to have sex.
Paige
But it's like, where do you go? They put you in a room. Haven't you ever watched fashion?
Hannah
Like Jersey Shore?
Paige
Haven't you ever watched $0.50 music video 21 questions? I'm pretty sure it's like depicting a conjugal visit.
Hannah
Yeah, I'm actually 100% sense conjugal visit. His music video is accurate.
Paige
Okay, well, he went in a trailer for it, so. And that's where I do my research. Wait, didn't the other day, I feel like I said to you, like, yeah, I really dislike that person, but, like, in a 50 cent way.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
And I'm proud of that.
Hannah
And what do you mean by that? Like, you want to make a documentary about them?
Paige
Yeah, like, I could make a documentary and it would just like. And I'd be like, gotcha.
Hannah
I feel like that's everyone.
Paige
Wait, I don't want to bring up Kanye west on this podcast, but I saw a quote from him the other day.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
And somebody asked him if he wishes Kim the best, and he said no, because that would mean she'd end up with me.
Hannah
So he's still flirting.
Paige
I mean, he's just an insane human. But that line absolutely ate. You know, it's like, how could I wish her the best when I'm not available?
Hannah
Your problem. You love a one liner. And sometimes you'll separate the artist from the art. If you like the one liner. Gotcha.
Paige
Yes. It's too much.
Des
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Hannah
Coco Moco is this creator online who
Paige
I thought we were going back into the protein bars situation.
Hannah
You know, sometimes a threads pops up.
Paige
My worst nightmare, which, by the way,
Hannah
I don't look at threads. But then Instagram recommends threads to me and they don't have the same muting that I've done on my Instagram. So I have to re mute my threads because I have my social media very organized for my mental health. Yeah, but this was actually a funny one that came up from Coco Moco and she said if men text in all lowercase, they're gay because that means they have to uncapitalize the first letter. And purposely, like my husband, who's straight, not to brag. No couple left. No.
Paige
In this day and age, it's like, oh, wow.
Hannah
At first I made fun of him because he's writing like he's putting punctuation. He's putting. He puts comments. He's 50. Even on Instagram, he responds to someone's comment with like 4 full punctuation. And at first I was like, babe, you're coming off like, intense. This is too strong. And then I realized, no, he's a straight man in his 50s.
Paige
No.
Hannah
Yeah. When a guy is like, I'm gonna answer with an aesthetic.
Paige
No. The other day.
Hannah
Look at evil laugh.
Paige
The other day I was like watching a video or something and one of the guys was like, I don't know if he was gay or not. I don't think he was.
Hannah
If you have to ask.
Paige
That's so true. But he was shortening every word, like abbreviating it. And there was like a straight man listening to the video as I was watching it. And it was just like. So they were like. He was like, what are they saying? It was just.
Hannah
I have an answer to that. Only gay men shorten words. Because gay men are busy. They have things to do. Like, they have like their creative directors. They have like multiple things happening.
Paige
It's just like they're doing reunions.
Hannah
That's why they walk so fast. Like they're Going places. Also. Also, they have to deal with, like, possibly getting chased by, like, angry straight men. Straight men. Like, you know, things happen. That's why they're good at reunions.
Paige
Yeah, they're busy. They're doing reunions.
Hannah
So we figured that out. Recently, I was walking behind someone who was walking fast. Sorry. Sorry. I've been in Canada.
Paige
Sorry. We've done this podcast for six years now. So this will be the topics moving forward. Sorry. Let me get this straight. Recently, you were walking behind someone, and that person in front of you was walking super fast.
Hannah
So were you walking behind them?
Paige
Because it actually doesn't sound like you were.
Hannah
People have to talk about this. I'm. I hate a crowd. Yeah. The second there's a crowd, drama. Also, I don't care if you're walking with me, I'll lose you. I have to get out of this crowd. If you want to hold my hand, come with. Otherwise, I'll leave you for dead. But I'm getting through the crowd. Like, you know, someone's slow. I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm not.
Paige
No, I'm getting through it.
Hannah
I'm getting through either.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Oh, my God.
Paige
So it's really one for all and all for one. When you're in a crowd, it's like, if you're coming or you're not, make the decision now.
Hannah
Yeah. Like, if I make a move to
Paige
go around, you gotta.
Hannah
You gotta go when there's an opening. Or like, you're getting.
Unknown
You're.
Hannah
If I sacrifice myself. Anyway, so I saw. I went. Where was this? Oh, I was at Indian Wells. There was a crowd, and I said, and it's Indian Wells. A lot of retired people. It's calm. It's California.
Paige
Everyone's a weekend social event.
Hannah
But I see this crowd. I can't do this. And then there's a woman in front of me with a backpack, and she's not having it either. And she starts like. So you move yourself to the back.
Darina
I.
Hannah
Random woman. I go. I'm following this woman. So she paves the way for me. And me and this woman, we got through a whole tennis tournament together. And I just want to say shout out to that woman with the backpack in Indian Wells, thank you for. For being there for other women.
Paige
The only thing I could say that I could relate to that is, you ever been in an Uber?
Hannah
You ever been.
Paige
You ever been in an Uber that gets right behind an ambulance? Let me tell you, that Uber driver is never been happier in his goddamn life. He's Riding that Uber. He's riding that ambulance all the way down 5th Ave. Like, I mean, he's gone, he's moving.
Hannah
I was an Uber recently where the guy fully just went in the like empty lane that you're not supposed to go to. And at first I was appalled, and then I said, this guy's a genius.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Because when it's you, when other people do it, they're assholes.
Paige
Well, I feel like when I'm in an Uber, like, unless I feel like you're going to sex traffic me, I'm on your side.
Hannah
Like when an Uber guy, when he honks him, when he honks, stick up for us when he honks and like, it's us versus the world.
Paige
No, I'm like, no, that guy was crazy. You were in the right.
Hannah
And because I've been in Ubers that are a little lackadaisical, they don't care to, like when it's yellow, they just like stop. Like, they're not in a rush. I'm like, so you don't care about, like my well being?
Paige
I've lowkey been in Ubers and gotten in car accidents, like fender benders. I've been in like two, maybe three. That's not great.
Hannah
Yeah, you are in a lot of it.
Paige
I'm in a lot of Ubers.
Hannah
I have a question. What's your Uber setting? Like? Do you say, don't talk to me?
Paige
No, I'm not a monster. They get the vibes when I get in there.
Hannah
I'm the opposite. I have to say, no talking.
Paige
That's insane.
Hannah
They still talk to me because I have such a nice aura.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
So when I walk in, they're always like, hi. And I say hi, like polite. But then I'm like, I don't want to be in a conversation when a little kid makes eye contact with me. Yeah, I'm making that motherfucker laugh because my comedy, it's childlike, it's. I really kill it in. It's kid friendly, the one to two year old demo. Like, they get me. Like, they. Isn't it funny at such a young age? They know I'm trying to make them laugh.
Paige
I actually would say, even though you don't have children, I would leave my children with you without even thinking of it. Because I know you're such a people pleaser that you're gonna be like, and what do you guys want to do?
Hannah
But that's the problem.
Paige
And what's the back?
Hannah
And it's craziness. And like, yeah, I'm gonna. I'll be an enabler. But they will have fun. They will have fun, but I have to learn to put my foot down with my future unborn child.
Paige
Yeah, well, your kids. But like other people's kids, you don't
Des
have to put your foot down.
Paige
So it's like a free for all.
Hannah
I jack them up, I get them so excited, and then I leave before it's. You have to put them to bed. Yeah. Did you babysit?
Paige
Oh, wait, you were the. No.
Hannah
I thought you ran, like, a babysitting, like, business. Yeah, there was always, like, one cool girl that, like, ran a full, like,
Paige
not me, not me.
Hannah
You never babysit.
Paige
One time I actually remember a mom, like, asking. I was like a senior in high school maybe, and a mom asking me like, oh, my God, do you babysit? And I remember being so offended, I was like, no. Like, and I remember calling my mom, being like, she asked me if I could babysit her kids. Like, no, no, I don't know your kid.
Hannah
Have I met your kid? Can I see a photo first? What's their sign? Wait.
Paige
Asking for a photo and being like,
Des
no,
Hannah
I' ma pick me. When it comes to being a babysitter, I'm like, like, who's your favorite babysitter?
Paige
And then, I mean, I've like, watched like, my younger cousin.
Hannah
Like, I've seen a kid before, but
Paige
I'm like, I can't get fired from this job.
Hannah
They're the purest form of a soul. Yeah, that's how kids are.
Paige
You're just like, I don't know.
Hannah
But, you know, like, you're in the airport and you're waiting in line, you want to kill everyone. And then some kid looks at you and is like, hi.
Paige
No, I actually get more mad. I'm like, and there's goddamn kids.
Hannah
I don't have a follow up to that. Kids, they do make stuff about them, which I think that's what you don't like. They're like, it's about me.
Paige
Well, I just find them annoying. I'm like, you don't be an adult.
Hannah
What if they have a good outfit on?
Paige
Adorable. Well, that's a testament to the mother, so.
Hannah
Which at the end of the day,
Paige
it's all about the moms.
Hannah
It's all about the moms. Have you heard of this Nona maxing thing?
Paige
No.
Hannah
Really? That hasn't come across to your, like,
Paige
as in like, grandmas?
Hannah
Yeah. Nona Maxing. It's.
Paige
No, but I'm quite interested.
Hannah
Eating generational recipes. Okay. Cotton Nightgowns okay, check, check. Walking everywhere.
Paige
Check, check, check.
Hannah
Italian penicillin soup. Air out the home.
Paige
You must air out your home. Was airing out your house a big thing when you were growing up?
Hannah
No, because we lived in New York City.
Paige
Every single window in the house. It would be like the first nice day. And she's like, we have to spring clean. It was as if, like, the Pope was coming.
Hannah
I feel like that's, like a rural thing to do. Like, you have to have nice air to do that. Yeah. Like, you guys had nice air.
Paige
Yeah, we had nice air.
Hannah
Yeah. We didn't really open the.
Paige
Yeah, that's true.
Hannah
Some guy's smoking a cigarette outside.
Paige
I'm like, now that I think about it, like, I feel like she was right.
Des
Like.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
Because you're cooped up all summer, just breathing each other's breathing in the same air.
Hannah
Yeah. I also feel like the most Italian thing about you is if you ever go to Italy or just in general, even in Brooklyn, old Italian women love to just sit out by their window. Yeah. Observing. They're protecting. They're cutting in the gossip. They just sit there all day. And you're like, isn't she bored? No, she is. People watching, collecting information, spying.
Paige
My grandma had two rocking chairs outside on the porch. She's like, come on, we're going to sit outside. We're going to talk about the neighborhood. Like, I was 4 years old and I was like, she did what?
Hannah
Next door.
Paige
I'm like, grandma? Are you fogging kidding me? Like, my grandma was everything I want to be today. Like, she smoked cigarettes. Just chain smoked them. And like.
Hannah
Well, we don't do that.
Paige
I think about.
Des
Right.
Hannah
Because we don't do that anyway.
Paige
But I think about, like, if we were like girls at the same time. Like, oh, we would just go. I would gossip. And if I lived in the 50s, all I would do is smoke cigarettes in my family.
Hannah
Answer Yak. Org.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Which someone messaged me. It is run by Mormons, but.
Des
Okay.
Hannah
They're just kind of obsessed with lineage.
Des
Yeah.
Paige
So I don't feel like the Mormons are, like, taking your info.
Hannah
So when I got all the way back to, like, the 1600s. Yeah. With my Italian ancestry, I clicked it. One of them lived till 93. Wow. So I called my mom and I'm like, 93 in the 1700s. Is that insane?
Paige
Super insane.
Hannah
And she said, hannah, there's these things called. I'm laughing because now she's gonna call me and be like, you said the story.
Paige
Blue zones.
Hannah
Blue zones.
Paige
Shut the.
Hannah
She goes up. We lived in Sicily in a blue zone. You know what a blue zone is?
Des
Yeah.
Hannah
How the do you know?
Paige
There was, like, a documentary a couple years ago, and your mom, being a dietitian, she definitely, definitely saw it. And it was about all these different places in the world that people live to, like, an insane age.
Hannah
So in Sicily, there's blue zones where you have to walk up a cliff to get to your house. And I guess it's so good for your lungs.
Paige
And, like, they pretty much have, like, a Mediterranean diet.
Hannah
They're just these healthy Mediterranean Italians walking all around.
Paige
Imagine If I had 90 years of gossip.
Hannah
93. But also back then, I thought. I thought you croaked at 36. 93.
Des
Right.
Hannah
He must. Who was he talking to? Did he have friends?
Des
Right.
Hannah
Were they all just old? But it's like, I think then everyone moved to New York, and everyone was, like, getting hit by trains, and, like, it was just craziness. But when you just live in a small Italian island, maybe that's the way you do it if you want to live a long life.
Paige
It sounds like we're going back.
Hannah
I think we're going back to the homeland.
Paige
I mean, a blue zone does sound relaxing.
Hannah
Do you have blue zone in your family?
Paige
I don't know. Figure out where.
Hannah
And this pod is not sponsored by Mormonism or familysearch.org just want to say that in case anyone was wondering, but I did have a giggler message me who's like, I work for, like, the Celsius of something really important, as the Googlers do. And she's like, it's very legit.
Paige
The census, maybe. Celsius. That's a drink.
Hannah
Bless you. It's also a temperature.
Paige
Oh, right.
Hannah
When we correct each other double wrong. Yo. You dumb Celsius. That's a drink. Wait, yes, I'll use the drink I drank once and bashed my head through a wall.
Paige
And it's temperature for, like, not for Europeans. When are we ever using Celsius?
Hannah
Does use a Celsius sometimes.
Paige
And he's European also.
Hannah
He's. He uses military time sometimes. There's things going on in my relationship that I'm working out.
Paige
Okay. But again, that is European, too. They do that in Europe?
Hannah
Yeah, it's Europe. Well, we found out that Des read Wuthering Heights in one week. That's.
Paige
No, we found out that he reread it. He was like, wow. Obviously, I read it years ago. And we were like, oh, my. Pardon us.
Hannah
I was like, okay.
Paige
Well, I read My first book in 20 years last month.
Des
Okay.
Hannah
What are you currently reading? The Gigglers. Want to know?
Paige
Seven Husband. The Seven has Evelyn. What is it called?
Hannah
Evelyn, Hugo.
Paige
The Seven Husbands. Whatever.
Hannah
That one. Is it good?
Paige
Yeah, it's good. I'm only on, like, I really am not doing well. I'm only on, like, page 50. I'm not doing well.
Hannah
Wait, stop with the negative self talk.
Paige
No, and it's not the book. I like the book. It's just I'm not as into it as I was my last one. I don't know why, but I need to, like, buckle down.
Hannah
Are you gonna read on flights?
Paige
I don't think I can bring myself to do it.
Hannah
You know why you like a book? I know why you like a book.
Paige
The aesthetic.
Hannah
It's an accessory.
Paige
Totally.
Hannah
It's better. When you posted that photo of you at the beach, I go, you saw something in your lay flat, and you're like, something's missing. Something's missing.
Paige
I was like, should I do my sunglasses? No, we're over that. Like, we've seen those. And then they were like, how about just the corner of my book? No, I literally texted Kazi and I was like, I'm going to the beach. I'm gonna take the picture. Best photo of your book.
Hannah
Yes. Yes.
Paige
Because that's what friends do.
Hannah
Friends do.
Paige
That's what friends do. They support their other friends and they, like, want the best for them.
Hannah
Women supporting women. Gigglers. Supporting gigglers. We also are going to the I Heart Awards.
Paige
Hell, yeah.
Hannah
Podcast Awards. We did forget to tell anyone to vote, and they closed the voting.
Des
Did they?
Hannah
Yeah, we're not.
Paige
Because you want to know what?
Des
We're not.
Paige
Pick me. We're like, if you happen to pond it in your own time, great.
Hannah
Yeah. I'm not forcing the gigglers to get us an award. Also, we don't need awards for happiness. We have each other.
Paige
No. And we do have the best podcast.
Hannah
And we're also saying this because if we lose, we're like, well, we didn't care.
Paige
Like, we didn't care.
Hannah
And then if we win, we're like, oh, my God, surprise.
Paige
And if we win, we're like, we didn't even have anyone vote for us. Doubly amazing.
Hannah
I'm wearing a pretty crazy dress.
Paige
Yeah, I still haven't picked up my outfit. I'm just, like, not loving anything these days.
Hannah
Are you gonna try to match me?
Paige
No.
Hannah
Okay. Do you think the gigglers are gonna before or against the dress? Which is basically. Do you think they're gonna think you liked the dress or not. It depends how it photographs.
Paige
It depends how it photographs. I like the dress because it's so true to you and like your personal style and being quirky and like trying something and being like, you've seen that before. And you're like, I love that, the way that looks. And I think that's cool.
Hannah
Yeah. And you go, and I love when things get you excited.
Paige
I love that for you.
Hannah
So keep an eye out for those photos. Hopefully they come out well. If they don't, just just say a little. Like post a little. Like, little. I support you. I support women in the arts. We love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling and we'll talk to you on Monday.
Des
Foreign.
Hayden
Howdy ho, and welcome to Fantasy Fan Fellas. I'm Hayden, producer of the Fantasy Fangirls podcast and your resident lover of all things Sanderson.
Hannah
And I'm Stephen, your bookish Internet goofball, but you can call me the Smash Daddy.
Hayden
And we are currently deep diving Brandon Sanderson's fantasy epic Mistborn. But here's the catch. Stephen here has not read Mistborn before.
Hannah
That's right.
Des
Hey.
Hannah
Hey. So each week you'll get my unfiltered
Paige
raw reactions to every single chapter.
Hayden
And along the way, we'll do character, deep div, magic explainers, and Steven will even try to guess what's next. Spoiler alert. He'll be wrong.
Paige
Newsflash.
Hannah
I'm never wrong.
Paige
Episodes come out every Wednesday, and you
Hannah
can find Fantasy fanfellas wherever you get your podcasts.
Hayden
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“Giggling about crushes, conjugal visits, and kalteen bars”
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Release Date: March 13, 2026
In this lively and banter-filled episode, Hannah and Paige discuss everything from the emotional power of the right outfit to their unexpectedly profound friendship, growing up with “cool moms,” small town gossip, protein bar scandals, the psychology behind pop culture drama, and why sometimes having a boyfriend in jail might be the ultimate hack. As always, they roast themselves and each other, share personal anecdotes, and deliver hot takes on fashion, astrology, reality TV, and the bizarre world of influencer wellness trends.
| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|------------| | Fashion & Vibes | 02:01–02:34| | Deep BFF Love & Dinner Stories | 02:54–04:51| | Parents, Crushes & Small Town Bars | 06:35–09:03| | Moms: The Ultimate Mess & Parenting Myths | 09:15–10:25| | Astrology DMs & Identity Memes | 15:04–16:27| | Doja Cat & The Virtue Signaling Cycle | 16:58–20:23| | Protein Bar Scandal | 24:28–28:54| | McDonald’s CEO, Ads, & Food Artistry | 29:04–31:35| | Reality TV: Bravo vs. Netflix Reunions | 34:10–37:43| | Jailed Boyfriends & Conjugal Visits | 38:39–41:56| | Texting, Language, and “Gay Man Decoding” | 47:09–49:05| | Babysitting, Kids, & Annoyances | 52:17–54:37| | Nona-Maxing & Italian Grandma Aesthetic | 54:44–56:56| | Longevity & Blue Zones | 57:01–58:12| | Friendship, Books, & Podcast Awards | 59:51–62:35|
This episode was classic Giggly Squad: rapid fire wit, relatable hot takes, and a swirl of nostalgia, pop culture, and honest girl talk. Even when riffing on conjugal visits or decoding gay texting patterns, Paige and Hannah keep the energy breezy and self-aware, always ready with a one-liner to keep listeners giggling.
“Women supporting women. Gigglers supporting gigglers.”