Giggling about cult leaders, clowns, and crosswords

Summary

Giggly Squad Episode Summary

Podcast: Giggly Squad
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Episode: Giggling about cult leaders, clowns, and crosswords
Date: August 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode brings the classic Giggly Squad blend of chaotic fun, candid self-reflection, and wild tangents. Hannah and Paige tackle everything from cult leader aesthetics and clowns to the mysteries of crosswords, fashion controversies, pop culture critiques, and unexpectedly deep conversations about manifestation, mental health, and true crime. The tone is irreverent, self-aware, and full of the duo's signature giggles and running jokes about their personal foibles and the "giggler" community.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Welcoming New Gigglers & Cult Leader Vibes

[02:26–04:24]

• Paige notes a surge of new listeners: “I feel like every week I'm getting messages, hi, I'm a new giggler…” (03:13)
• Hannah jokes about cult leader energy: “You're like, one braid away in your hair from being a cult leader.” (03:49)
• Paige leans into the bit: “Now stop talking to your families and come live with us...” (04:03)

Comfort, Virtual Podcast Vibes, and Multitasking

[04:44–05:13]

• They reflect on recording virtually: “Sometimes they're, like, crazier.” (Paige, 05:13)
• Hannah multitasks with a hair mask and plans for laser hair removal during pod downtime.

Small Talk, Blood Draws & Dog Drama

[05:33–09:34]

• Paige shares a Quest Diagnostics story: tries to break the ice, compliments the nurse's dog, and accidentally triggers a crying spiral from the nurse:
  • “Your dog is really beautiful. She looks at me and she bursts into tears. She goes, my dog, as of the last two days is sick and I’ve been nonstop crying...” (Paige, 08:19)
• Discussion of go-to compliments for strangers:
  • “I always say to someone, your nails look really good… Or your hair looks really healthy.” (Hannah, 09:46)
  • “Your pores are really small.” (Paige, 10:22)

Social Buffer Friends & Strategic Seating

[10:45–12:04]

• Omakase dinner strategy—placing Paige’s sister-in-law as a buffer between strangers.
• “Maybe that should be her side business, the buffer friend.” (Paige, 11:59)

Fashion Rants: Haviana Kitten Heels & Copycat Culture

[12:14–13:19]

• Hannah’s “desk drama”:
  • “Have you seen the Haviana Kitten heel?” (12:14)
  • “I feel like that's so crocs coded... And if there's one thing you can believe me about, it's my hatred for crocs.” (Hannah, 13:03)
• Paige likes the shoe for practical reasons: “It means I don’t have to paint my big toe…” (Paige, 12:31)

Mean Moms, Parenting Tactics, and Kids

[13:52–14:53]

• Both worry about being mean moms.
• Hannah reveals an aggressive lie for keeping kids quiet:
  • “I made something up that a monster comes out of the sand and it eats little girls and boys when they scream.” (Hannah, 14:33)
• Paige advocates for the classic “quiet game.”

Women of STEM & Viral Life Hacks

[15:03–16:54]

• Nomination: Emily Shelton (21-year-old Florida flight instructor) for "Woman of STEM of the Month" after safely landing a plane on a highway:
  • “Her tone the whole time, calm as a cucumber... And then she just does it.” (Hannah, 15:39)
• Discussion of a kid who charges people to pet her dog—“fucking genius.”
• Questioning an olive oil-on-the-knife anti-onion-tears hack.

Reading "Yesteryear," Tradwives, and Manifestation

[17:07–20:39]

• Hannah’s lukewarm take on the book “Yesteryear” and Paige declaring “The trad wife rumors begin.”
• Deep dive into manifestation:
  • Paige realizes she’s checked off career goals from past manifestation lists.
  • Hannah revisits old psychic readings as affirmations.

Mental Health Moment: Naming Your Inner Critic

[21:01–22:27]

• Tips for managing negative self-talk:
  • Paige: “Give the voice a man name. So next time... you’re hating on yourself... just be like, Doug, shut the fuck up.” (Paige, 21:15)
  • Example riff: “Peter, you live rent free because it’s true.” (Hannah, 22:02)

Voices, Frat Scents, and Male Communication Double Standards

[27:37–29:38]

• Hannah introduces “fraccent”: men’s voices in frats—how society ignores that men all talk the same, but roast women for vocal fry or “like.”
• Paige points out men’s overuse of “dude” as a verbal tic.

Dating Red Flags: Personality Shifts in Men

[29:54–31:28]

• Hannah and Paige discuss the revelation that men who change their personalities in different groups are a red flag:
  • “Men that change their personality based on where they are, like, is a really big red flag.” (Hannah, 30:22)

Crossword Confessions & Lessons from Emperor Nero

[31:37–34:09]

• Paige cheats on crosswords and feels no shame.
• They riff on Emperor Nero’s Olympic cheating, comparing him to modern-day cult-like leaders:
  • “He made them move the Olympics... for him to compete in a ton of competitions, that they had to give him gold. And they gave him gold in all the competitions.” (Paige, 32:58)

TV Algorithms, “Furious” Review, and Watching with Men

[35:12–37:56]

• Paige tried watching Hulu's “Furious” but wasn’t impressed, blames watching with her fiancé Dez.
• Both agree you can't watch certain shows with men due to the vibe shift.

Tennis Tips & US Open Manifestations

[39:44–45:34]

• Paige and Hannah accidentally double-purchase the same outfit for the US Open.
• Advice for attending the US Open:
  • “You can go, I believe, for free, to qualifying week... the best week to go…” (Paige, 41:52)
  • “The outfit vibe is like… baby shower in Nantucket.” (Hannah, 43:12)
• Paige dreams of being invited into a tennis player’s box, like Chelsea Handler with Maria Sharapova.

Tennis Coaching & Umpire Admiration

[45:34–47:22]

• Hannah is fascinated that tennis used to ban coaching during matches.
• “You love when [the umpires] tell everyone to shut the fudge up.” (Paige, 46:49)
• Their admiration for umpires’ passive-aggressive tone.

Gossip Protocols, True Crime, and the Lindsay Clancy Case

[52:08–56:27]

• The girls debate how you should react when someone talks shit about your friend (“gather the tea”), noting it really only happens with acquaintances.
• A serious segment on the Lindsay Clancy case, social media conspiracy theories about the ongoing trial, and the tendency to over-analyze victim and family behavior.
  • “There's not always a perfect victim... it’s not like there’s one way to deal with your whole family, like, dying.” (Paige, 56:02)

Wiggles Lore & Hot Australian Men

[56:36–58:42]

• Paige reveals “Wiggles lore”: the original and current Wiggles cast have lots of romantic drama and inter-dating, likened to “Wiggles Love Island.”
• Tangent about the abundance of attractive, entrepreneurial Australian men in NYC.

Wellness & Morning Routines: Coffee vs. Pilates

[58:50–61:09]

• Discussion: When do you drink coffee and eat breakfast before a 9:30 am Pilates class?
  • Hannah requires a full hour to “ease into it.” Paige thrives in rushed chaos.
  • “I have a sensitive tummy… I need to ease into it.” (Hannah, 60:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Cult Leader Vibes:
  “You're like, one braid away in your hair from being a cult leader.”
  (Hannah, 03:49)

• Compliment Tactics:
  “I always say to someone, your nails look really good.”
  (Hannah, 09:46)

  “Your pores are really small.”
  (Paige, 10:22)

• Woman of STEM:
  “Her tone the whole time, calm as a cucumber... And then she just does it.”
  (Hannah, 15:39, about Emily Shelton)

• Manifestation:
  “I want a happy, healthy family. And then you're like, oh, it's nice, but I think it's cool to just reflect.”
  (Paige, 19:57)

• Mental Health Pro Tip:
  “Give the voice a man name. So next time... you're hating on yourself... just be like, Doug, shut the fuck up.”
  (Paige, 21:15)

• On Dating Red Flags:
  "Men that change their personality based on where they are, like, is a really big red flag."
  (Hannah, 30:22)

• On Emperor Nero:
  “He made them move the Olympics... for him to compete in a ton of competitions, that they had to give him gold...”
  (Paige, 32:58)

• On Tennis Fashion:
  “The outfit vibe is like, one of your friends from camp invited you to their grandma's grandma and grandpa's lake house... what would you wear to a baby shower in Nantucket?”
  (Hannah, 43:12)

• On Gossip:
  “If someone talks about you to me, I don't want you defending me. I want you to pretend you're on their side to get all the tea.”
  (Paige, 52:12)

• On True Crime Speculation:
  “There's not always a perfect victim... it’s not like there’s one way to deal with your whole family, like, dying.”
  (Paige, 56:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:49 – Cult leader jokes & new giggler welcome energy
• 08:19 – Paige’s Quest Diagnostics meltdown with crying nurse
• 13:03 – Hannah's tirade about Haviana Kitten heel and Crocs
• 15:39 – Emily Shelton: Woman of STEM nomination
• 19:04 – Manifestation routines & career reflections
• 21:15 – Naming your inner critic ("Doug, shut the fuck up")
• 27:37 – Dissecting “fraccent” and critiquing men's vocal patterns
• 30:22 – Dating story: men who change personality = red flag
• 32:58 – Emperor Nero as OG cult leader
• 41:52 – US Open tips (qualifying week, outfit ideas)
• 46:49 – Tennis umpires and the art of "shut the fudge up"
• 52:08 – Gossip protocols (“gather the tea” method)
• 53:17 – Lindsay Clancy case, true crime, and conspiracy theories
• 56:36 – Wiggles love drama and Australian men in NYC
• 58:50 – Morning routines: Pilates class prep, coffee, and chaos

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Overall Vibe & Takeaways

• Unfiltered, fast-paced banter with frequent belly laughs and inside jokes balanced by occasional deeper reflection (on mental health, manifestation, women’s empowerment).
• Listeners will feel part of an in-group, constantly referenced as “gigglers”—emphasizing community and mutual support.
• Episode offers a blend of lighthearted distractions (pop culture, TV, random hacks) and surprisingly honest admissions about anxiety, ambition, and relationships.
• Consistent return to the joys of female friendship: strategic social support, mutual encouragement, and sharing even the most mundane (or embarrassing) parts of life.

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For fans at home or newcomers, this episode is a quintessential, giggly roller coaster: ridiculous, relatable, and somehow always ending up right back at the mysteries of clowns, cults, and crosswords.

Transcript

[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

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[Hannah]

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[Host 2]

Sup gigglers?

[Hannah]

Gary, fix the WI fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I mean the day just got away from me.

[Paige]

Hello my girls. Girls gigglers I can't stop saying it still, even though it's been a long time.

[Hannah]

Do you know that that is the accent that I do with my brother's fiance? Like, we only talk to each other in, like, a British accent, but it's a British accent during, like, the 1500s. And we are, like, just so niche. We eat porridge.

[Paige]

I love those friendships. Except when you have to speak normally, you feel super weird.

[Hannah]

No, we can't. She got engaged and I was like, congratulations, Amanda.

[Paige]

Congratulations, girls. Girl. Oh, God. I have to say, we have some. We have new gigglers. We do. I feel like every week I'm getting messages, hi, I'm a new giggler. And they feel like they're not the caught up and stuff.

[Hannah]

Well, I'm not prepared. I have a hair mask in.

[Paige]

But I just have to say, we love you. We love the whole giggly community. Day oners today, right now. Okay, but the gigglers are so fucking nice to each other in the comments. Like, the giggly community is just. Why are they the best girls on the planet?

[Hannah]

You're like, one braid away in your hair from being a cult leader.

[Paige]

No, I think, Ash. I think in past life, I was.

[Hannah]

If you said that with a flower crown on, I'd be terrified.

[Paige]

And then I'm like, now stop talking to your families and come live with us on a.

[Hannah]

You're like, whether you started yesterday or

[Host 2]

you've been with us for six years,

[Paige]

this is why you're my best friend. Because I was trying to have, like, an earnest, beautiful moment. And, you know, I know you sound insane. You're like, you sound crazy. I'm gonna have to cut you off.

[Hannah]

You look like a clown. Okay, These don't care. There's a girl right now on her way to work being like, I don't give a who. Listen.

[Paige]

Trying to bring love and light to the community. And you're like, we're Scorpios. Shut the up. Wait.

[Hannah]

I will say, if you are a new giggler, typically we're in a studio and, like, the vibe is a little different. But. But I will say, during the summer, I do love when we go virtual because, like, for instance, I online shopped all morning.

[Paige]

Oh, I thought you could say you online shop during the pod. I'm like, okay, keep that to yourself.

[Hannah]

If I can multitask, it's over for you.

[Paige]

Mm. Mm.

[Hannah]

I'm doing a hair mask. Like, I'm going to do my laser hair removal when we hang up.

[Paige]

I think that the virtual vibes are not better or worse, they're just different. And sometimes they're, like, crazier.

[Hannah]

Well, because we're in the comfort of our home.

[Paige]

Exactly. There's a comfortability about it. It's very cozy. We're really on a FaceTime with everyone.

[Hannah]

We're in pajamas.

[Paige]

Speaking of small talk.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

You know, I hate small talk. Except around people who don't want to talk to me. Like, if the person's shy, then I'm like, okay, now I need you to love me. So I went to get blood drawn. Quest Diagnostics. Not sponsored. Drove there 15 minutes, literally left my husband. I said, might be the last time you see me.

[Hannah]

But hold on, Wait. Just. Quest Diagnostics have any competitor I've never met, Any time I've ever needed blood, I've never gone anywhere but a Quest Diagnostics.

[Paige]

All I know is, yeah, like, I tried to get some tests or something, and then I got. I keep getting sent to Quest Diagnostics, walked in, no one was there.

[Hannah]

What are you getting tested for?

[Paige]

Well, I wanted to get. Test for food.

[Hannah]

Something you didn't even tell me.

[Paige]

Oh, we have to draw blood together. What kind of cult are you trying to create?

[Hannah]

No, but usually something as big as that. You would say to me, like, I'm going to go and, like, try this out. And, like, see, you never make health decisions and don't at least do.

[Paige]

I was, like, bored and booked it and forgot and then saw I had a notification today. And it's like, you know, I like things that are close by. It was 10 minutes away.

[Hannah]

Right? It was in someone's basement.

[Paige]

Like, but I don't. I've only driven. Like, I don't drive highways.

[Hannah]

You do short distances.

[Paige]

I do short dances. And it was 10 minutes. No, like, 15 minutes away. And I was like. And Des was busy, and I was like, I feel like I should drive. And he's like, can you do this? Do you feel ready? And I was like, I think I just need to. I need to take a shot at life. So I drove. I was blasting Lil Wayne being crazy.

[Hannah]

Okay. Probably not the safest. Definitely not.

[Paige]

No. But it was getting me, like, focused and pumped up. And then I was like, am I the king of the world? Like, the way your ego gets so big when you're in the car.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

With a good song. And you're just like, wait till you

[Hannah]

pull, like, one good move. And, like, someone's in the passenger seat or the back seat, and they're like, wow, that was really good. You're. It's an insane ego.

[Paige]

I don't let people drive in the back seat with me. That's I like care about. I care.

[Hannah]

Okay, perfect.

[Paige]

I'm a solo dolo right now. So I get to my Quest diagnostic safe.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And the ladies, she hates me. Like, I walk in and she's not even making eye contact. Like I was like, hi. And she, I don't think she even responded. And I was like, damn. But then it was like quiet a little too long and I was like, I need to figure her out. And she has all these photos of her family. And this one like beautiful dog.

[Hannah]

Just like the secretary behind like the glass partition.

[Paige]

No, this is the lady taking my blood.

[Hannah]

Oh, okay. Oh, we're in there now. We're in there.

[Paige]

But in the office, I guess she has all these photos. So I'm like, this is going to get her. I know she's going to love this. And I go, your dog is really beautiful. She looks at me and she bursts into tears. She goes, my dog, as of the last two days is sick and I've been non stop crying because my baby, I don't know if I have to put him down. She goes on a whole like 10 minute crying. Like tears come me down her face. And I'm sitting my worst nightmare and I'm cornered. She has a needle to my face, crying at me. And this is just a day in my life. This is just me trying to be kind to another human. This is how the universe rewards me.

[Hannah]

This is so something that would happen to you.

[Paige]

And then obviously I wanted information, like, how long do I have to wait? But I couldn't really get out of the like anything.

[Hannah]

You were done.

[Paige]

I can't be like, by the way, how. Enough about your dog. How long until I get my food allergy results?

[Hannah]

What kind of, what kind of dog? You're like, speaking of treats, what am I allergic to, bitch?

[Paige]

No, but like, I hope, I hope it made her feel better to like let it out, but I did not see that coming.

[Hannah]

What kind of dog?

[Paige]

It was like a beautiful gray pit bull. And I was like, yeah, we foster sometimes. And she's like, I don't want a new one. I want my baby.

[Hannah]

I was like, no, I, I don't, I don't know. See, when I'm in those situations, do you want to know what my go to is? Your nails look really good.

[Paige]

Girls love.

[Hannah]

I always say to someone, your nails look really good. And girls are like, thanks. I like, actually like, I have to get them done or I just go with your hair. Looks really healthy. Oh, if someone hits me with a hair, your hair looks really healthy. Or your skin looks really hydrated. Oh, I'll put you in my will.

[Paige]

Those are real girls, girl.

[Hannah]

Yeah, those are some. That's like. Okay, we're on common ground here.

[Paige]

You're doing what? Actually, I say that people love. And by the way, I only say it when it's true. I go, your pores are really small.

[Hannah]

Wow, that you've never once told me

[Paige]

my pores are small. Your pores are actually small.

[Hannah]

I'd kill for someone to say that to me.

[Paige]

Okay, next time you're in a mood, I'll bring it out.

[Hannah]

Yeah, yeah, bring. Whip that out.

[Paige]

Put that.

[Hannah]

Write that down.

[Paige]

But I feel like when I'm with people, it's. It's a beautiful energy where people like to open up to me. But recently, we went on a group dinner where, like, it was this, like, omakase thing with my brother and his wife where one of us was gonna be sitting next to strangers.

[Hannah]

Oh, yeah.

[Paige]

So my brother's wife, the kindest, sweetest, beautiful person in the world. Rusty face. Yes. And I said, we're gonna put her there because she's gonna be a wall. No one's gonna mess with her. And she doesn't. She's. If someone asked her a question, she'd be so warm.

[Hannah]

But she's a nurse. Like, she's so nice.

[Paige]

She's so nice. Like, nurses, they're like. You're like, do I want to bother them with this? I don't know. But if I was there, then next thing you know, we'd be going into astrology. It would be, like, a whole thing.

[Hannah]

You'd be having omakase together with another family. Yeah.

[Paige]

Yes. So that was, like, a strategic thing, and it really worked. And I. I told her afterwards, and she laughed, and she was like, I had no idea that was your strategy. And I was like, well, I'll be using you in the future. Thank you. Maybe that should be her side business, the buffer friend.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I feel like I could do that.

[Paige]

Yeah. But I don't even want to make you work like that.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Paige]

Because you're so. You have too much social anxiety just to get there. Pressure anxiety.

[Hannah]

Sorry. I just, like, chugged a carbonated drink. I don't know why I did that.

[Paige]

Now I'm, like, burping.

[Hannah]

Burping something that's come across my desk this week, which is, like, really pissing me off. Have you seen the Haviana Kitten heel?

[Paige]

Yes. It's been sent to me a lot.

[Hannah]

What do you think about it?

[Paige]

You know, I love it.

[Hannah]

Do you love it?

[Paige]

Love it. And also, it means I don't have to paint my big toe.

[Hannah]

Do your big toe.

[Paige]

And I save 20 on pedicures.

[Hannah]

Here's why it's actually annoying me. I feel like javianas were, like. I feel like I had a pair of havaianas in seventh grade, and then I never thought about them again. And then this summer, I feel like they were, like, kind of making a comeback, and then they did that, which I feel like is so crocs coded.

[Paige]

Mm. Mm. Well, I was going to say, I thought it was a croc.

[Hannah]

I thought it was a croc.

[Paige]

Haviana is coming into crocs world. Yeah.

[Hannah]

And if there's one thing you can believe me about, it's my hatred for crocs. So when I'm up here defending the croc name, I'm being serious with it.

[Paige]

Well, you hate copycats.

[Hannah]

I hate just, like, inauthenticity. We already have it. Yeah, that's like, inauthentic. Like, do something different. So I don't like that.

[Paige]

But no, that has been sent to me, like, a hundred times.

[Host 2]

And also, I think it's ugly.

[Paige]

And she's ugly.

[Hannah]

Yes. Oh, I have someone to nominate for women of some of the week.

[Paige]

Oh, well, it has to go past a couple, son. It's.

[Hannah]

Oh, is there a box that I was supposed to, like, send into?

[Paige]

Or I can just say. But you have to nominate, and then I have to agree.

[Hannah]

Okay, great.

[Paige]

Sorry, but I'm hanging out with you.

[Hannah]

Three year old. I literally was like, cool. I. You're making this up as you go. You're making their rules.

[Paige]

I'm treating you like Lois treated me. Hurt people. Hurt people.

[Hannah]

I'm actually so glad we're not around kids anymore, but because we were both around kids, like, the past couple of weekends, and this is the last thing I'm gonna say about kids is I really do fear that I'm gonna be a mean mom. Like, I really. There was a moment where I was like. And I think I might be a mean mom.

[Paige]

I fear that when moms are too nice, the kids don't come out well.

[Hannah]

Well, I made something up that a monster comes out of the sand and it eats little girls and boys when they scream. So I'd be pretty scared if I were you. And then I took a moment and I said, I don't have to go this hard. I'm gonna pull it back I'm gonna take a step back. These aren't my children.

[Paige]

Well, my parents always did the quiet game. That always worked because my brother and I were competitive anyway.

[Hannah]

Okay, someone I want to nominate for Emily Shelton. Why do I.

[Paige]

Why do I know that name?

[Hannah]

She's a 21 year old flight instructor and she landed a plane in the middle of the highway in Florida. Something that a lot of men have said that they would be able to do.

[Host 2]

She did it.

[Paige]

Wait, was it an emergency landing?

[Hannah]

Yes. She smelled oil like in the cockpit.

[Host 2]

And so you like here.

[Hannah]

She's like radios to them. Like, I think something's wrong.

[Paige]

She was like, that's not a dipty too dipty Q candle. We gotta go.

[Hannah]

Her tone the whole time, calm as a cucumber. She was like, yep. And now I am going to declare an emergency. We're not going to make it to the airport. I'm right in line with the highway, trying to stay away from cars. Here we go. Like, and then she just does it.

[Paige]

And she's communicating like perfectly.

[Hannah]

Yeah, perfectly.

[Paige]

I'm posting my pilot bit I think today. Cuz it needs to be talked about. From the Hulu special shout out to her. 100% woman of stem of the month.

[Hannah]

Maybe I knew you were going to concur with that one. That was a good one.

[Paige]

I concur. There's woman of STEM of the week. Also is this young girl who to make money on the side of the road, she created a petting zoo and you have to pay to pet. And it's just her dog like in a fence stop. So you have to pay to pet the dog. And I was like fucking genius. Fucking genius. Also, when waste time of the week. Third place, someone said that to not cry while chopping an onion, you just have to put olive oil on the knife. But it hasn't been tested.

[Hannah]

I'm gonna test it.

[Paige]

I. I feel like our Italian grandmas would have known that by now, but maybe it just never crossed their desk in that way.

[Hannah]

Definitely been in a situation where olive oil was on the knife.

[Paige]

No, for sure. So I wonder why they haven't told me that yet. So we'll get to the bottom of that in our own Italian FBI agents.

[Hannah]

Actually one thing I have been doing this summer I feel like is cooking. More like wanting to. Well, let me bring that back.

[Paige]

And the trad wife rumors begin.

[Hannah]

Well, I've been reading yesteryear, which is like basically about trad wives.

[Paige]

I didn't bought yesteryear.

[Hannah]

Okay. I actually. Okay, I actually wasn't aware that it was like, a not. I don't know, would you classify it as a thriller? But it's like she's living her life, and then she goes back and she wakes up, and all of a sudden it's like 1800s.

[Paige]

So it's a historical timepiece. You love a period piece.

[Hannah]

I know, but I don't know if I love reading it. And I could say that for a lot of things in my life.

[Paige]

Do you not like the book or do you not like reading?

[Hannah]

I don't like the book. I don't think. I don't think I like the book.

[Host 2]

Don't try and trick me.

[Paige]

You literally malfunctioned for, like, three seconds there.

[Hannah]

No, because I do like reading.

[Ad/Promo Voice]

Wait.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God.

[Paige]

This isn't even, like, a crazy thing.

[Hannah]

So the other day, you know how I texted you because it was a really good manifestation day? So sometimes when I. When I know that it's, like, a good manifestation day, and because Tick tock

[Paige]

told me, okay, I was gonna ask where you figured it out.

[Hannah]

Like, obviously you can watch videos, and they're like, you should do these 12 steps, and it's like, eat a lemon under a full moon and then throw it out your back window. It's like, okay, whatever. Drink, moon. It's like, money. Chill out. The. The one thing I do do is, like, write down all the things I want to manifest. Or, like, write a letter to my future self of the things I want to manifest. The other day I woke up and I said, why don't I live today in, like, how I want to live in the future? And do you want to know what I did?

[Host 2]

Absolutely nothing.

[Hannah]

Absolutely nothing. I woke up and I was very present. I said, and in the future, I'll wake up leisurely, do my skin care, have coffee outside, put my bathing suit on, lay by a pool. And, like, all day I was like, do whatever I was doing. I was like, and now it's time for me to read because I live a life.

[Paige]

Leisure. Leisure is like the word you have to, like, repeat to yourself. Leisure, leisure, leisure. So she.

[Hannah]

Then I thought to myself, I have a podcast where I tell millions of

[Host 2]

girls to get out there and work.

[Hannah]

No, but it's. It's after, like, working. Once you accomplish, like, certain things, it's like, how do you want to live your life?

[Paige]

Well, I find manifestation lists help you also be realize what you have. Like, when you're trying to think of,

[Hannah]

like, what you want, what's important and what's not.

[Paige]

Like, yeah, like, you're like, I want a happy, healthy family. And then you're like, oh, it's nice, but I think it's cool to just reflect. I also found an old manifestation list.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

I just don't know what actual date it was because it was, like, iconic. It was. I think it was right after I got fired. And it literally was like, yeah, do a late night set on Jimmy Fallon. Get a Netflix special. Like, hit a million of followers on Tick Tock. Which are all, like, stupid things, but at the time, I was, like, not close to any of it.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And I never even checked it again. I just checked it recently, and I was like, you go, girl.

[Hannah]

Yeah. That's how I feel sometimes when I look back at, like, my psychic readings.

[Paige]

Do you look back at them?

[Hannah]

Yeah, well, I usually record them, so sometimes, like, if I'm bored, I will go back and, like, re. Listen to, like, certain parts just to see if any of it happened. And sometimes I'm like, oh, my God, I forgot she even said.

[Paige]

Said that this is a perfect, perfect segue for our mental health moment of the week. Hell, yeah. I. I want to give credit. I forget who it was, but it's a. Was it a. It's a girl on something. Obviously.

[Ad/Promo Voice]

Perfect.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And narrow that down. And she said to help you with your inner voice. You know when you feel like your inner voice is you, but it's really not? It's like a bad, evil voice. Yeah. To disassociate from that voice and be like, that's not me. Give the voice a man name. So next time, like a hater, like you're hating on yourself or being mean, just be like, doug, shut the up.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God. I feel like I would have to name mine something with a P.

[Paige]

Peter.

[Hannah]

Peter. Actually, Peter, you've gained a couple pounds. Okay,

[Paige]

Peter, I make 70 cents on the dollar. You work. Peter.

[Hannah]

Peter, you live rent free because it's true.

[Paige]

Like, if your friend says it to you, you're like, okay, they make a good point. But if a man says it to you, you're like, shut up.

[Hannah]

Wait, that's so true, Hannah. Like, my dad could say something to me, and I'm like, you don't even

[Paige]

know what you're talking about.

[Hannah]

I'm like, what? And then my mom could say, yeah. And I'm like, you're onto something.

[Paige]

Go listen to a red pill podcast telling me negative things. Who do you think you are? But it's true. What? There was a time where I thought every thought in my head was like this whisper of like truth that I had to follow. And once you know you can ignore it, you're suddenly like, oh, I could just like float around in leisure.

[Host 2]

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[Hannah]

Okay, I saw this thing on TikTok and it was a comment. It wasn't even like, so I don't know if this is a thing that Gen Z, like, made up and is talking about or if this was just a random girl having an amazing thought. It was, like a video of two guys, probably, like, freshmen in college, maybe, like, seniors in high school. And you know how girls are criticized for everything, but specifically, a lot of women and girls are criticized for their voices. Like, have you ever heard, like, oh, my God, her vocal fry? Like, I hate, you know, or like, she talks like a Valley girl or whatever. Some girl commented and was just like, frat scent. Like, accent, like, fraccent. And I was like, oh, my God, Yeah. Do you know how many men I know that talk the same? But I've never been able to say. Me and one of my girlfriends actually would say that. Like, there were certain men that we would meet and they'd have the same type of voice, and we knew that they were, like, evil because they all had the same voice. And it was a fraction, but we didn't know it then. And I. I just think it's perfect. I think more men should be criticized. Not that feminism is about equal hate, but it. But, like, they never get criticized for that.

[Paige]

Well, they will criticize women for saying, like, too much. Right? But then I've noticed, at least, like, in years past, especially in, like, the male comedy scene, they love saying dude. So, like, at the end of a sentence, they say dude in the beginning of a sentence to say dude. Like, it's their filler word to the point that I'm like, I'm trying to listen to jokes, and people are just like, dude. So then I was a dude.

[Hannah]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paige]

I'm like, dude, are you really doing that?

[Ad/Promo Voice]

Dude?

[Paige]

And it was so much dude, but you. They become unaware of it because they say it so much, where I'm like, what's with all the dudes?

[Hannah]

Right, right, right. No, that's so true.

[Paige]

Just raising awareness.

[Hannah]

Sorry, I was actually just, like, throwing it out there.

[Paige]

Fried scents are so real, though. And then also there's guys who get out of the frat scent, but then they see a guy who is giving frat, and then they go right back into their old self, and they're like, bro, bro, chug.

[Hannah]

One thing that I've realized throughout my life in dating, and I think it's a really important trait, and I didn't learn it until very later in my 20s. Even, like, really more in my early 30s. When you meet a guy and you are put in different situations with him, whether it's with his friends, Your friends, family, whatever. Or maybe people you don't know. Men that change their personality based on where they are, like, is a really big red flag. And you could argue like, oh, well, yeah, everyone kind of does that a little bit. But you have to find a man that, you know, they're like, their demeanor and their character is going to be the same no matter what room they walk into.

[Paige]

I dated a guy, and dating is a strong word, but, like, he was so chasing me, like, being so suave and sweet and saying all the right things. And I swear to God, his mom called and he was like, what the do you. And I was like, he's. Let's punch a grandma. Like, he was so mean to his mom. And I was like, oh, that's how he's gonna speak to me the second I have sex with him, like, while I'm still in bed, he's like, cursing me out.

[Hannah]

No, that, like, I dated this one guy who, when we hung out with this two specific people, I loved who he was like, with these people.

[Paige]

Oh, so it's a positive thing. You were like with them? He was a better, better person. Maybe should have dated them because he became a better person with them.

[Hannah]

I was like, why are you such a cool, good person around these people? And you're not like this all the time. Anyway, I don't know how we got there.

[Paige]

Wait, do you want to get really pissed at a man right now?

[Hannah]

What time is it?

[Paige]

You have like a 4:30.

[Hannah]

Yep. But I.

[Paige]

Do you have to schedule it in. I don't have anything for about an hour. I can fit it in. Okay, so there's. I was doing the New York Times crossword puzzle.

[Hannah]

I love that about you.

[Paige]

And. But I'm really bad at it. So, like, okay, I had to cheat, but every Monday I try and I always get it down to like the last two and I can't get it.

[Hannah]

How do you cheat? You just Google it.

[Paige]

Yeah, but like, I don't tell people I won. I just.

[Hannah]

You just say you did it. Okay.

[Paige]

I just said thank you for being

[Hannah]

honest and open with us.

[Paige]

I didn't win. I cheated. So there's an emperor, and it's a four letter word. It's emperor narrow. So I googled like, emperor for little word. Whatever.

[Hannah]

People that aren't cheating are nerds because.

[Paige]

Who's that?

[Host 1]

Sorry.

[Paige]

Sorry that I had friends in high school. No. And then it's like tons of 80s references. So des is good at it. But I digress. I was like, can we do a pop Culture one.

[Hannah]

Wait, we were in the Times crossword puzzle once. Remember that?

[Paige]

I think it was, like, the pop culture one.

[Host 2]

Oh, those.

[Hannah]

I didn't know there was different ones. Whatever. Okay, keep going. So you're doing Nero.

[Paige]

Yeah, Nero. So, like, it comes up his name and all these facts about him. And, like, so I just gave it a quick look. See, this man? This man made them move the Olympics because, like, I feel like he was like, I don't know, 1600, 1700, 1800. I don't fucking know. He made them move the Olympics because he was traveling so that he could be there. And then for him to compete in a ton of competitions, that they had to give him gold. And they gave him gold in all the competitions. Then when he died, they took his name off all the winning lists, and I'm like, that's literally leaders today. Like, wait, if they could, they would.

[Hannah]

No. Like, this is sick in the head. Like, this is so sick.

[Paige]

And someone on his team was like, yeah, we're going to have to just give him the gold. Is that okay? He's threatening to. To take down the entire society if you don't. So can we just give him a gold medal? Let him walk around a little Gold star.

[Hannah]

You want to know what pisses me off about that? Is, like, the girls of that age, they didn't even have the appropriate jargon. Like, they couldn't be like, okay, this gaslighting is winning all the gold.

[Paige]

Old Instagrams of, like, stuff they used to say, like, giggle mug and stuff. Everyone sends that to us. They definitely had a word for it back then. And I want to know what they called them.

[Hannah]

What?

[Paige]

You know, his wife was exhausted. She was like, oh, my God. Congrats, babe.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Also, these people have been training their whole lives to, like, do swords or whatever the fuck people did in the 1700s. Throw, like, gold. I don't know, Harry Potter shit.

[Hannah]

Like, also, like, where did he move it? Where was it that he moved it?

[Paige]

He just moved the timing of it. He was like, it's not gonna work this week. So they had to, like, wait.

[Hannah]

Okay, diva down, though. Like, I think a lot of men back then were just, like, absolute gay men who had no outlet, you know,

[Paige]

that was his performance.

[Hannah]

Like, think about how they really couldn't say about it.

[Paige]

He wanted a podium. He need to stand on a podium with gold Diva.

[Hannah]

And, like, I kind of.

[Paige]

With great power comes great responsibility.

[Hannah]

Like, you don't need that gold medal. Like, actually give it to me. Okay. One thing I feel like you Know how, like, when you hear your birthday or, like, your full name or something, that is so you, and you're like, yeah, that's like, of course I'm a Leo. Like, that's so me.

[Host 2]

Mm.

[Hannah]

I love when those moments happen. And I feel like recently I'm getting like. Like, you know when you go on someone's phone and you're like, this is. I can't work this. Like, I've never seen it before. Even though you have an iPhone. This is how I'm starting to feel

[Host 2]

when I'm watching other people's TVs.

[Hannah]

I have to now log out of their, like, Amazon prime or something and log into mine. Because I'm like, sorry, yours is like, I don't like it. Like, I.

[Paige]

The algorithms getting, like, so specific.

[Hannah]

I just feel like I've isolated too much and, like, I can only work comfortably if I'm on my own account.

[Paige]

Wait, I have a hot take.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Paige]

I didn't love Furious, the Hulu show you recommended.

[Hannah]

No, I know what you're talking about. What didn't you love about it?

[Paige]

Well, I was watching it with dez, which might have, like, ruined the experience.

[Host 2]

That's what it is.

[Hannah]

You can't watch things with men. It really. No, I'm not kidding.

[Paige]

It ruins it because I was watching it from a critical eye, and I do think the script needs work. I think the script needs. I think it was a little over explaining.

[Hannah]

Okay. But we haven't seen Emmy Rossom in a while, and she, like, really puts her out there.

[Paige]

She's perfect. She's perfect. Also, the. The serial killer is perfect. I just. I didn't. I wasn't. I just wasn't blown away. But it was solid.

[Hannah]

Okay. And what were Dez's critiques? What did he not, like?

[Paige]

He. He hated the whole script.

[Hannah]

He hated how it started out.

[Paige]

He didn't like their, like, fake, funny cop relationships. He didn't like fake funny.

[Hannah]

She got beat up by her boyfriend.

[Paige]

No, just, like, the. Like, they tried to do funny back and forths, like, banter, but it, like, wasn't really funny.

[Hannah]

Oh, I don't think I picked up on that.

[Paige]

I think you were on your phone.

[Hannah]

No, it's a serious show. Did we watch the same show? When did they try and do banter?

[Paige]

It's all the back and forth and then. But, like, she's perfect. She's a.

[Hannah]

Whatever. You hated it. Okay.

[Paige]

I also only watched one episode.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So you're really not even into it, so. I'm actually not Even listening to you. Yeah, everyone scratch Hannah's critique of that. Joan, try.

[Paige]

Well, now I feel like I put. I put bad energy into the world. So anyway. Well, you didn't watch the first episode of Furious and let me know what you think.

[Hannah]

I will say the first, like, five to ten minutes. I actually was like, I don't know if I can watch this, because sometimes right when they hit you with someone's dead and was murdered, I'm actually like,

[Paige]

oh, see, I was into that.

[Hannah]

It went down okay.

[Paige]

Oh, like, you know, you're like, oh, of course they're gonna cut to her. She cut to her in the office being like, what do I do? I'm a cop. There's so many how FBI men are mean to me.

[Hannah]

You don't use that voice enough. I feel.

[Paige]

I don't think I've ever. That's my cop. Cop in a show voice.

[Host 2]

Oh,

[Paige]

I know. Papers. The papers everywhere. But Emily Rossum, like, the. But she also can sing, and I, like, respect people who can sing because

[Hannah]

I. I think she has, like, a lot of lore. I'm not sure what it is, though.

[Paige]

I sense that, too, from her. We have to look that up.

[Hannah]

I'm feeling an energy that she is, like, insane. Lore.

[Paige]

See?

[Ad/Promo Voice]

See?

[Hannah]

Because I watched Shameless, not when it was on tv, so I wasn't familiar with her until, like, years, years later. But I think there's something there. We should look it up.

[Paige]

That's how I want people to talk about me. I want them to go, hannah Burner. I feel like there's lore. Trust me, girl, they do.

[Hannah]

They are.

[Paige]

Anyhow, I have to apologize to the Academy 4. Last episode, I said I was going to help people with the US Open, and then I never did.

[Hannah]

What are we going to help them with?

[Paige]

Just, like, tips and tricks?

[Hannah]

Well, you don't have time to help them with the US Open, because you have to help me with US Open and getting me.

[Paige]

Tell them what happened today, guys.

[Hannah]

No, it was. No, it was freaky. No, it was really freaky.

[Paige]

Down to the exact colors page. There were other colorways.

[Hannah]

No, I know there were. So I'm scrolling my Instagram, scrolling my Instagram, and I see this, like, top, and I'm like, wait, that's a really cool top. So I click the Instagram. I go to the website. I'm like, I love this. This top. I click through. It has a matching skirt. I'm like, amazing. I click the collars. Boop, boop, boop. I buy it. I'm. I get the Email. I'm like, wait, this is actually a Hannah outfit. And I should send this link to Hannah because she should order this. This is like a perfect Good Morning America outfit. She's going on a talk show. She whatever my stylist. So I just send her the link, and then I get in the shower because I'm starting my. My stuff. So honestly, I forget all about it.

[Paige]

And I was driving, so I didn't get it immediately. And I'm not at the point where I can navigate and you'll never be there. But even I don't like the voice. Text doesn't hit the same.

[Hannah]

No. Let's just say here and now. Do not ever do that.

[Paige]

No. No texting. Driving.

[Hannah]

On this pod, there's a couple things giggly squad is big in, and it's we don't fool around in cars, and we don't. And nicotine. Get a fucking life.

[Paige]

We don't smoke cigarettes. And I'm over it. And I think big cigarettes are behind a lot of these influencers posting. But I digress. Continue.

[Host 2]

You think there's a conspiracy theory there?

[Paige]

Yeah. Because it's one thing to get caught smoking a cig by a paparazzi.

[Hannah]

You think Big Tobacco is doing influencer deals? They don't think we're cool enough. Nobody's ever asked.

[Paige]

Wait, okay. Glare. Big Tobacco is trying to get out of the job right now. It's like they got us.

[Hannah]

Wait, what was I just saying?

[Paige]

You were gonna say what you texted me.

[Hannah]

So I text Hannah. I come back.

[Host 2]

I open my phone. She texts me back.

[Hannah]

She goes, paige, I ordered this outfit, and I'm wearing it to the US Open. And in the shower, I was like, perfect for the U.S. open.

[Paige]

Actually, for her, I literally, like, that's.

[Hannah]

It's really scary.

[Paige]

So I'm gonna. I'm trying to figure out the date. I'll get it.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

My one thing I want to say about the US Open, even though things have changed, it's gotten a lot more crowded, is you can go, I believe, for free, to qualifying week, which is, like, the best week to go, because you watch all these amazing qualifying matches. These are people fighting for their fucking life. Like, this is intense. This is serious stuff. Like, this is passion. So what? Like, it's basically challengers if it was good. So. Ooh, she's shady. Like, Law Roach on. You see LA Roach fighting with everyone on Project Runway. Him and Tyra are gonna.

[Hannah]

I need to catch up.

[Paige]

Him and Tyra are two strong personalities.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Is all I'm gonna Say, and I'm locked in. Oh, yeah. So go up to the. Go to the qualifying week, the week before it starts. And then you also see all the top people training, so they're, like, playing practice matches and hanging around. So that's a super fun time.

[Hannah]

And, like, the concession is open. It's like, regular vibes.

[Paige]

Yes. My other advice is it's going to be hot.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Bring sunscreen, bring sunglasses, maybe a cute hat.

[Hannah]

I think I have to go at night.

[Paige]

Yeah. You like the night one. If you get a grounds pass, make sure you have comfortable sneakers because you're gonna be walking around. Try to see matches you want to watch, and, like, get there beforehand.

[Hannah]

And I would say the outfit vibe is like, one of your friends from camp invited you to their grandma's grandma and grandpa's lake house. And, like, what would your day outfit be for that? Like, you're going shopping, you're going to lunch. Like, it's very preppy, slash, you could go nautical with it. Think, like, baby shower. What would you wear to a baby shower in Nantucket?

[Paige]

I love that. I also think bright colors, though, in general are good. Like reds, blues, throwing away.

[Hannah]

It's very American.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And very classic. I feel like anything classic works.

[Hannah]

It's very Polo Ralph Lauren.

[Paige]

Yes. Very polo Ralph Lauren. I really didn't have a lot of advice for the US Open. I. I just wanted to sound like I do, but, like, okay, great.

[Hannah]

I feel like that you did a phenomenal job.

[Paige]

Thank you. But we will go. We just have to figure it out, talk to some people. Yeah. You know, my dream is to be asked to sit in a box of one of the players. Do you know what that means? Oh, so there's players boxes. That's where the coaches and the family sit. That's, like, where the girlfriend said to get in the box. It's their closest friends. Now, I don't want to just get into anyone's box because I'm asking for it.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Paige]

But there was, like, an iconic time where Chelsea Handler was besties with Maria Sharpova, and she was always in her box. And it was, like, so, so cool. And it was just like, girls, girl like, her supporting women. And, like, I've infiltrated the tennis society. Jesse Pula. Madison Keys. These are my girls. Anyway, a lot of these girls I'm friends with. Isla Tamlanovich. Shout out.

[Host 2]

Hello.

[Paige]

Emma Navaro. Shout out, those are my girlies. And maybe I'll see them at the Open, but. Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm gonna stalk them all.

[Hannah]

Okay, this is you writing in your diary that maybe one day you'll.

[Paige]

This is my manifestation. But then I don't want them to ask me just because I asked for it. Now I sound like a annoying girlfriend. I'm like, just do it because you want to do it. But, like, I'm a cheerer. Like, I will be cheering.

[Hannah]

Yeah, you're. You're. You're there.

[Paige]

They invite me, and then the next time, the coach is like, hey, can you not be so loud during the. The match?

[Hannah]

Well, I think it's interesting in tennis that I feel like it's the only sport where the coach isn't there. Like, right there. You can't talk to him during it. I think that's, like, the most bizarre thing.

[Paige]

So coaching used to be illegal. Like, no, coach. You can't even, like, give a hand signal, any communication. Because part of tennis is, like, once you're on the court, it's you versus the opponent, and you have to figure it out. Like a puzzle.

[Hannah]

Okay, it.

[Paige]

But then they just, like, couldn't control the cheating. Like, coaches would, like, be like, if I blink with my right eye, hit it to her forehand, like, right. If I touch, if I move my hat, that means, like, start coming in at more like, they couldn't control it. Serena Williams famously got called for coaching in, like, a very important match when everyone's like, she shouldn't have, because everyone cheats with coaching. So finally, now you can coach.

[Hannah]

I would have been doing full dance routines. Like, in what world are you gonna tell me that I can't look at. I can't look at someone in the crowd.

[Paige]

You're like, I wasn't coaching. I was picking my nose. It's like, well, you keep doing that. But also. Yeah. Tennis now is, like, evolving. So you can coach, but, like, there's only so much you could coach when.

[Hannah]

Well, that seems like a ridiculous rule.

[Paige]

They did it for a long time, babe. A long time. You are obsessed with the umpires because you love when they tell everyone to shut the fudge up.

[Hannah]

Well, because I think they are. They command a room. And I appreciate that in someone.

[Paige]

Thank you. Oh, that's what you. You love.

[Hannah]

When they say I love, they sound so passive aggressive. And I think, I like. I like that.

[Paige]

Yeah. And their job is basically to manage when players lose their mind and keep everyone, like, calm. I'd be a bad umpire for sure. The second they question me, I'd be like, no, you're right.

[Hannah]

You're too passionate. Yeah. You'd be way too passionate.

[Paige]

But I want everyone to like me. So I'd be like, girl, you're right. And the other one be like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, babe, love you even more. You're right.

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[Hannah]

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[Host 2]

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[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

Laundry Detergent today What do you think about this?

[Paige]

Tick tock. Going around about someone was like, if you, if someone talks about you to me, I don't want you defending me. I want you to pretend you're on their side to get all the tea 100. But this is the thing, like me and you, no one's gonna come up to us and talk about the other one.

[Hannah]

It has to be insane. It has to be about like an acquaintance.

[Paige]

Yes. For peripheral friends.

[Hannah]

I've had multiple people not know that I'm like, like know that I know someone but don't know how close I am to that person. So they'll, and they're like kind of close to that person. They'll say a bunch of stuff.

[Host 2]

Stuff.

[Paige]

You're asking follow up questions. You put your phone up to them. You're like, what'd you say?

[Hannah]

I'm like, wait, when did they go there? You're kidding. With who?

[Paige]

Well, you know when you realize you're in enemy territory. Yeah. Because it's like group mentality. And you're like, oh, you guys are all thinking this way about this person.

[Hannah]

And like, I was actually going to bring this up and I feel like that's a good segue. Have you seen the Lindsay Clancy, like, case that's going on?

[Paige]

Okay, I'm getting DMS about it. Is there a documentary that I watched?

[Hannah]

No, there's. I don't think there's a documentary.

[Paige]

I think there's one on Amazon.

[Hannah]

But they're interviewing on the stand all these people. And obviously one of the people is her husband. And so people are watching this case on TV and they're doing all of these conspiracy theories. Well, this is the first time I think I've ever seen people like. And there's millions of conspiracy theories. And there's millions of conspiracy theories, I feel like about every trial. But there are people on TikTok that are getting really mad that people are coming up with conspiracy theories. Like, and there are a lot of people that think like, oh, the judge is gonna want miraculously, randomly just say, like, we think the husband did it. This is over. Like, we have to like accuse him. Which is not going to happen. But also in the same vein, like, people are noticing certain things and are like, that doesn't add up at all.

[Paige]

Like, so they're trying to. Some people are trying to get people on the boat of the husband did it.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Is blaming her and like, tricked her. Almost the wildest conspiracy theory is that the husband did it, like drugged her, ran to like pick up food or ran to a CVS or something to show like on camera, like an alibi. But that then convinced. Convinced her she did it. Like you were in such a psychosis and like, you did it because after his children were killed, he got a new girlfriend and now it's three years later, he's married with a kid.

[Paige]

Did she remember or she's saying, I was in a psych. I don't remember it.

[Hannah]

She doesn't remember? No, I don't. No. She's maintains that she was in a psychosis. And also there is a part where the doctors say she fell out the wind. She jumped or like, fell out of a window and she's now paralyzed. She's in a wheelchair. Yeah, she killed. She killed her kids. And then she went and she jumps out the window and she is paralyzed. It's like. It's actually one of. It's so crazy and heartbreaking.

[Paige]

But, you know, the conspiracies, like, are going with the trend of, like, when it comes to violence, it's typically the man. So they're like a little. Trying to make things make sense.

[Hannah]

Yeah, it's a lot of people trying to make things make sense. The one thing I will say, she has an excellent lawyer, regardless. He is just like a very articulate.

[Paige]

So you're watching clips of it on Tick Tock or like, you're looking at the actual trial online?

[Hannah]

I'm watching the actual trial, like, on. In different clips.

[Host 2]

Oh, wow.

[Paige]

I also think one thing I learned from watching a lot of these kind of documentaries is there's not always a perfect victim. So, like, a lot of the time it's like, I don't like how he or she's reacting or they're not sad enough.

[Hannah]

They're right.

[Paige]

They're too sad. So it's not like there's one way to deal with your whole family, like, dying.

[Hannah]

Right.

[Paige]

But I'm gonna have to look into this and come back on the next pod.

[Hannah]

I mean, it's awful and it's like, so sad, but it is interesting, like, the discourse around it on a more positive note. Yeah, let's lighten it up some more.

[Paige]

Positive lore is I found out that the Wiggles are fucking each other. They're dating, they're breaking up, they're getting married, they're marrying new people. They're all. There's all kinds of dating lore within the Wiggles community. And they're Australians and they're all hot. They're all hot. And just the Australian, you know, I

[Hannah]

love it so much.

[Paige]

So I have to look into it. But, like, people were married and divorced and still on the show, and then now with different people. Yeah, I mean, look, a work crush is a work crush. It doesn't matter if you're a Wiggle or you're an accountant.

[Hannah]

It's the reality TV show I think we deserve collectively, that is, as a society.

[Paige]

Yes, The Wiggles.

[Hannah]

A bunch of gay men choreographing during the day and then banging and fighting by night.

[Paige]

No, I think they're straight. They're just Australian.

[Hannah]

Oh, and I don't care. No, wait, then I literally don't care. I don't care.

[Paige]

Still interesting. The men and women hooking up wiggle like. It's like Wiggles Love Island.

[Hannah]

There's women on the Wiggles.

[Paige]

Yes, it's.

[Hannah]

Sorry, that was so misogynistic of me. I've only ever seen men.

[Paige]

Originally it was like a couple men, but now the Wiggles community is like a big community of, like, men and women.

[Hannah]

Oh, but I don't care if I don't care. And when it was all gay men. I'm in. I'm seated. I'm sad. Bring in the streets. I don't care. I could just go in my own phone book. Like, I could go in my own. Are you kidding?

[Paige]

I would just read old text messages. Yeah.

[Hannah]

A bunch of hot Australians 2 timing me. I could scroll to 2017. Like, I don't need.

[Paige]

Wait, why are there so many hot Australian men in New York who were just feral?

[Hannah]

I don't know. And why did they all own shops like mine owned a coffee shop, beer shops, egg shops? I'm like, what is up with you guys in hospitality?

[Paige]

Entrepreneurship. They love it. And there's always. Yeah, it's. It's a time I highly recommend it, at least to try.

[Hannah]

Yeah, totally.

[Paige]

Okay. I do also have, like, a question, just like, for the girls. Girl community.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

When you wake up in the morning and you have a 9-30- Pilates class, which I feel like is a relatable question for the girls. Are we drinking coffee beforehand? Are we trying to get some calories in beforehand? How soon are you eating when you wake up versus heading to the class? No one's figured it out. And it's stressing me out before I

[Hannah]

have to go anywhere. From the time I have to walk out to get to my destination, I'm up an hour before that.

[Paige]

We live such different lives.

[Hannah]

I don't even know what this problem is.

[Paige]

I have a 9:30 Pilates class today. When do you think my alarm was 9:15, 9:00am because it takes 10 minutes to get there. And then I was like, I need to live in chaos. Like I was running around, I'm gonna be late, I'm gonna be late. But then I'm like, do I try to eat a little cereal? Is it good? And because my biggest fear is having to go to the bathroom during applies class. That's like illegal.

[Hannah]

The hour before, I've built in my skin care, my coffee, my like me getting dressed and then I'm always in

[Paige]

a rush while also moving at a snail's place. Now I'm thinking of all the times you arrived on time and I didn't.

[Hannah]

But I'm also like, times, what are you talking about?

[Paige]

But low key. I got so much more sleep than you just to be like five minutes later and looking like, yeah, like, no.

[Hannah]

And I don't do it to like be better than people. I do it because I have a sensitive tummy.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like I can't just jump out of bed like the rest of America. I need to ease into it.

[Paige]

Also in college when I work out in the morning a lot, you know I didn't do coffee in college. Like I was. Yeah, yeah, I don't know, I just didn't do it. And I'm like, how did I survive college without coffee? So I guess in the morning I

[Hannah]

just had some water and like, just like pure adrenaline. I feel like, and like being young. A zest for life, dare I say just hope.

[Paige]

Hope and excitement for what?

[Hannah]

What?

[Paige]

The unknown.

[Hannah]

And now my tick tock algorithm is women telling their husbands if they want a new life, to not kill them and the kids. And it's like, no, you have to like, look out.

[Paige]

I love how I, I'm trying to end on a light note of Pilates. And you keep bringing us back. You keep bringing us back to murder.

[Hannah]

But that's all the time we have for today.

[Paige]

Thank you for giggling with us.

[Hannah]

Stay safe out there.

[Paige]

We love you so much. Talk to you later, bye.

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[Hannah]

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