Giggling about fancy restaurants, raccoons, and cyber security

Summary

Giggly Squad – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Giggling about fancy restaurants, raccoons, and cyber security
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: November 25, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of Giggly Squad, Hannah and Paige take their signature, self-deprecating humor and lively banter through a whirlwind of topics, including navigating fancy restaurant mishaps, family drama, trending animal domestication (raccoons, anyone?), cyber security paranoia, pop culture hot takes, and spirited debates around fashion and life coaches. Plus, as always, they weave in personal anecdotes, fashion talk, and cultural commentary, giving listeners plenty to giggle about.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fashion Risks and Social Media Judgment

• Paige discusses her risky dress choice for the Elle Women in Hollywood party—a polarizing fashion moment with divided reactions online (03:09–05:00).
  • Notable Moment: Paige jokes about being a "visionary" and defends the decision to wear a bold bow, supporting small, female-run brands.
  • Gary (guest co-host) admits, “You know I hate lace. You know, I hate like, multiple colors in one thing. So, like, you already put me at a bad.” (06:01)
• The group mentality and online pile-ons are dissected, with both finding humor and honesty in not commenting on each other’s posts to avoid drama.

2. Cyber Security, Parental Snooping & Password Paranoia

• Hannah recounts a cyber security scare after receiving an alert about her email being accessed on a new device. She’s hyper-vigilant, sending screenshots to ChatGPT for phishing checks. Paige, meanwhile, is far less concerned (07:10–10:13).
• A hilarious reveal: Paige’s mom had secret access to her emails for months through an old iPad and only lost access because Paige changed her password (08:25–10:07).
  • “She goes, I only click on things you’ve already clicked on.” – Paige (09:24)
• The segment morphs into a broader, relatable laugh about over-involved moms, shared locations, and how mothers always know everything.

3. Stories from Indiana: Smoothies, Bookstores, and Fun Aunt Life

• Paige describes her trip to Indiana to visit her niece and nephew, sharing the comedy of being “the fun aunt” and her run-ins with quirky service workers—from the smoothie shop peanut-vs-almond butter battle (13:21–14:08) to getting told off for using a staff computer at Barnes & Noble (15:26).
  • “Did I almost full fight that woman?” – Paige (14:21)
• The benefits and challenges of aunt/uncle life are explored, plus an ode to making up stories on the spot to entertain kids.

4. Siblings, Family Dynamics & The Parent Trap

• Both hosts reflect on awkward but sweet sibling dinners and why alone time with siblings feels like “something weird or bad might happen” (28:37–30:03).
• The lasting ‘roles’ of siblings, differing childhood memories even with the same parents, and why “making fun of your parents with your sibling” is a top-tier hobby (31:07–34:04).
• Gender, personality, and order in families: “My dad comes in for dramatic effects, but my mom is in control.” (11:48) – Gary

5. Trend Spotting: Raccoons, Fashion, & Pop Culture

• Raccoons: Paige brings up the trend (on TikTok and news) that raccoons are edging toward domestication, with their snouts growing cuter and more cat/dog hybrid behavior—Russian raccoons as pets are a thing (26:10–27:13).
  • “Here's the thing. I really feel like it's a hybrid between a cat and a dog.” – Gary (27:17)
• Fashion: Funnel necks are the must-have trend (“All the girls are in a funnel neck.” – Paige, 62:38) and a discussion of wearing on-trend pieces even if short-lived for face-shape benefits.
• Pop Stars and Brand Recognition: Discussing Swedish pop star Zara Larsson’s talent but lack of U.S. name recognition, and how some globally successful pop songs don’t always translate into personal fame (63:35–66:15).

6. AI, Photo Search, and Moms as FBI Agents

• A playful tech rant: Why can’t iPhones search for photos by descriptive text the way AI could? (47:13–48:07).
• Moms are declared better than the FBI for snooping and life management, and there’s a pitch for retired moms running government agencies (48:19–49:18).

7. Fancy Restaurants & Sibling Rituals

• Paige shares a “Seinfeldian” experience at a Chicago art-collab restaurant: started at a standing table, endured menu confusion, and exchanged call-back jokes with her brother (“almond butter” became their code word) (38:06–40:55).

8. Life Coaching, Wellness Scams, and Jennifer Aniston’s New Man

• Discussion of Jennifer Aniston’s new “life coach” boyfriend. The group is skeptical, equating many modern life coaches with motivational scammers (49:43–55:05).
  • “My thing with life coaches... Why am I picking a life coach over a therapist who went to school?” – Gary (51:27)
  • “Any time I see a good looking man posting a motivational quote, something went seriously wrong.” – Gary (53:07)
• The ultimate verdict: Skepticism over influencers selling happiness, with a pro-psychic but anti-life coach stance from Hannah.

9. Reality TV & Women Supporting Women

• Heated discussion around Dancing With the Stars drama—Whitney, known from “Mormon Wives,” is criticized for being ambitious and open about her TV aspirations, leading to her early elimination (67:17–75:57).
  • “Are you mad at Whitney for having vision?” – Gary (69:57)
  • The hosts lament how women ganging up on women is more common and more vicious than necessary, calling for support instead.
• Also, a quick touch on The Bachelor’s two-women season and why Paige refused to watch men get to choose—“Boundaries. I have boundaries.” (75:39)

10. Fun Closing Bits: Celebrity DMs & Gratitude

• Giddy moments about being followed by celebrities on Instagram (Rosalía and Channing Tatum) and stressing over what to post (76:09–77:27).
  • “Wait, no. Channing’s a giggler.” – Paige (77:09)
• Ray, Olivia Dean, and British jazz pop icons are discussed as new obsessions.
• Thanksgiving love: Both hosts share what they love about the holiday and close out expressing gratitude for Giggly Squad and all “gigglers” (79:04–end).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On fashion and individuality:
  • “She’s not like everyone else. She does her own thing.” – Gary (04:44)
• On outsider family experiences:
  • “Have you ever tried to read the second you woke up? She literally wakes me with this huge book, and she’s like, read it to me.” – Paige (12:18)
• On family drama and different upbringings:
  • “Just because you and your sibling grew up in the same house…doesn’t mean they had the same childhood experience.” – Gary (31:32)
• On trendy animals:
  • “In the past 10 years, raccoons are making a really intense play to be domesticated.” – Paige (26:34)
• On influencer wellness culture:
  • “He did manifest Jennifer Aniston. Maybe he does know something…” – Paige (50:55)
  • “I just am weary of like a man being a life coach because they lie a lot, you know?” – Gary (56:07)
• On reality TV ambition:
  • “She was given a platform and she goes, how am I going to capitalize it 20 times harder?” – Gary (70:06)
• On female jealousy:
  • “No one hates a woman more than another fucking woman.” – Gary (67:47)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|--------------| | 03:09–06:43 | Paige’s fashion risk, bows & internet reactions | | 07:10–10:13 | Cybersecurity paranoia, mom snooping on emails | | 13:21–14:21 | Indiana smoothie shop standoff | | 15:26 | Barnes & Noble run-in | | 26:10–27:13 | Raccoons trending as domestic pets | | 38:06–40:55 | Art-collab standing restaurant mishap | | 47:13–48:07 | Digital photo search, wishful AI thinking | | 49:43–55:05 | Life coaches, skepticism, Jennifer Aniston’s new man | | 67:17–75:57 | Dancing With the Stars, Whitney drama, female ambition backlash | | 76:09–77:27 | Celebrity follows, Rosalía and Channing Tatum on Instagram |

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Tone and Energy

Lighthearted, honest, openly self-deprecating, supportive-yet-critical of pop culture, with a trademark of inside jokes, playful bickering, and bursts of sharp, comedic wisdom. Hannah and Paige embrace vulnerability, invite listeners into their inner worlds, and always find the humor—whether in cyber security hysteria or getting judged for almond butter in Indiana.

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Conclusion

This episode of Giggly Squad blends the relatable with the ridiculous: fashion flubs, family quirks, and a fair amount of celebrity and reality TV shade—all delivered in a rapid-fire, giggly style that feels like a cathartic girls’ night in. With shrewd observations, lovable neuroses, and their unfiltered take on everything from cyber scams to sibling love, Hannah and Paige keep it real, keep it giggly, and make sure no pop culture stone goes unturned.

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“You know what we’re thankful for? Giggling.” – Paige (79:18)

Transcript

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[Gary]

Gary, fix your WI fi manifest that shit.

[Paige Desorvo]

We can't be managed.

[Gary]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Paige Desorvo]

Hello my grateful Gigglers. It is the month of gratitude.

[Gary]

Yep, timely, timely being in the present.

[Paige Desorvo]

Being in the present, thinking stuff.

[Gary]

Thinking about stuff.

[Paige Desorvo]

And just there's been some drama. I had a good run. I had a really good run with my fashion choices. People started to say that I was a visionary.

[Gary]

You're not afraid to be yourself.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm afraid to be myself.

[Gary]

She takes a risk.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's a good risk taker. Like she takes risks, but we love whatever.

[Gary]

She's not like everyone else. She like does her own thing. I saw a lot of that.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I wore a dress at the Teen Vogue party. No, I'm just kidding. It was Elle Women in Hollywood party. And I posted it.

[Gary]

I think Teen Vogue went out. No, I think 17 went out anyway. One of them.

[Paige Desorvo]

One of them print is dead.

[Gary]

Except for had a giggle. But you can get any story about you guys.

[Paige Desorvo]

We have so many stories today. But yeah, I wore this dress. And the gigglers were. The nation was divided. Oh, you. What are you saying?

[Gary]

I was actually going to say I.

[Paige Desorvo]

Think it was unanimous.

[Gary]

Here was my question. Here's my question.

[Paige Desorvo]

You didn't comment, did you? That's how you know it's bad. Oh my gosh.

[Gary]

Looking through no page comments.

[Paige Desorvo]

But you know what page is there? She's scrolling.

[Gary]

I'm collecting my thoughts. I'm saving it for the pod. Here was where I was taken aback. The bow in your hair.

[Paige Desorvo]

That was a last minute decision. Wait, do you think that was the one? Because I actually love sealed your fate. I thought it was cunty. It's the small designer who's like, the shit.

[Gary]

That's another thing that people don't talk about enough. You're always taking small brands, small designers, trying to put them on a pedestal.

[Paige Desorvo]

Trying to uplift women supporting female run businesses. And you guys are tearing.

[Gary]

I'm like, have you seen the Zara window today?

[Paige Desorvo]

You know, so this is Mila Sullivan. Might be Mila. And I loved it because it had. People were calling it a tampon, but it had this like red, which is very Hollywood to me. And like the lace and yeah, the lace kind of looked nude on top without the bow. I think it really was good. Last second it was brought up. Do we throw the bow in? And you know when you're just walking out the door and you're like, yeah, one more thing. Yeah, Throw a little glitter.

[Gary]

Yeah, that's how the opposite of Coco Chanel. You're like, before you leave the house, add at least three things.

[Paige Desorvo]

Literally is what happened. Everything was done. And then we put it on. I thought you would appreciate me trying to Do a little girly bow. Yeah, but bows, I guess, aren't.

[Gary]

You know what's funny is, like, I'm always like, bring back Joan Rivers. Like, nobody. Everyone's afraid to say something. And then when it's us, I'm like, oh, that was mean. Like, I'm like, oh, yeah, they hit me. Right?

[Paige Desorvo]

But you know what? That's why you didn't comment on my photo, because you didn't want to kick a dead. A dead horse.

[Gary]

There's one thing the Internet loves, and it's piling on group mentality. And so if I did a comment that was less than favorable, you would.

[Paige Desorvo]

Have lit a fire that we could have never unfired. Yeah.

[Gary]

Yeah. I could have never put.

[Paige Desorvo]

But your silence was happening. It's loud. I was at one point where I was like, did I miss her? Did she? Did I miss it? And then I was like, oh, she's mad. Mad. I was like, she is livid.

[Gary]

I just. I. I. Well, there's a lot of things about it that weren't me, so you're already starting me at a negative. Okay. You know I hate lace.

[Paige Desorvo]

You do?

[Gary]

Yeah. I hate lace. You know I hate lace. You know, I hate, like, multiple colors in one thing. So, like, you already put me at a bad. Why would you do that?

[Paige Desorvo]

But you know what? I wanted to be happy. I crave, like, I. It was too calm for too long.

[Gary]

You love. No, here's the other thing that I think that people insult me and give you a compliment that I. I do actually think is true. I love a trend. I love being influenced. I love seeing a girl and being like, oh, I can recreate that outfit. That was such a good idea. You have amazing personal style. You only go by what you like and what you think looks good and what you think is cool, and I think that's a great thing.

[Paige Desorvo]

I also have a unique body type. It's very pear, and it's hard to pull off a lot of trends. Like, I can't wear a blazer dress. You love a blazer dress.

[Gary]

I love a blazer dress.

[Paige Desorvo]

My labia is just flapping around. Like, my butt doesn't fit. Yeah.

[Gary]

Like anything I get. I'm like, what if we made it mini, It'd be better.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Like, I. Everything. I'm like, I need it to be longer because my booty. But I digress. How are you?

[Gary]

I'm good. How are you? I actually have a funny story.

[Paige Desorvo]

Okay.

[Gary]

I actually have a couple funny stories. I think my first story is, Wait.

[Paige Desorvo]

Tell me A story.

[Gary]

So the other day, I get an email. Yeah, I think an email or a text.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm so sorry.

[Gary]

I was like, on A Wednesday at 2:00pm I'm not bang.

[Paige Desorvo]

How dare you.

[Gary]

I get an email or a text, whatever, from Gmail. Like, hey, your email was logged on from another phone, from another computer. Like, whatever. And I. If there's one thing I take seriously, it's cybersecurity.

[Paige Desorvo]

Okay?

[Gary]

I'm very Ubers and cybersecurity, top of my list.

[Paige Desorvo]

That's so funny, because I'm like, that's none of my business.

[Gary]

Oh, I've screenshotted, sent into chat, GPT. Like, is this a real email? Is this a real website? Like, I'm very weary.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, you remember when, like, Dior emailed me for a collaboration? I forwarded it to my agent. They were like, yeah, the Dior doesn't want. I go, it happened, it happened. They're like, no, it's D E O R. They don't want you.

[Gary]

Okay, So I get that email. And so immediately I'm like, oh, my God, this is like. And I don't know how to check. Like, oh, is that my phone? Whatever. I'm just, like, changing my password. So I go on, I change my password, like, whatever.

[Paige Desorvo]

How many passwords can one person have?

[Gary]

I mean, I write it down in my phone. So if someone took the phone, it's like, I'm thunder.

[Paige Desorvo]

Passwords. Yeah.

[Gary]

So then a couple days goes by and my mom comes into town and whatever, and she says to me, I can't see your emails anymore. And I'm like, my emails? And I'm thinking she's, like, getting the word wrong. I'm like, what do you. You mean like, my texts aren't going through? Like, she. And she's like, getting her hair and makeup done. She goes, no, your emails. I can't see your emails anymore. I go, how were you looking at my emails? And she goes, you gave me your old iPad. You never signed out of your emails. And the other day I got signed out of your emails.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I go.

[Gary]

I go, wait, what do you. I go, what if you open something and I didn't open it and then I miss it? And she goes, well, come on. I respect your privacy.

[Paige Desorvo]

Oh, you totally do.

[Gary]

And she goes, I only click on things you've already clicked on.

[Paige Desorvo]

Wait, I'm obsessed. That from 8 to 10pm Every night, Kim has her shows. And by shows, it's going through Paige's junk mail. What are you looking for?

[Gary]

She goes, I like, to see how you respond. I like to see how other people respond. I like to see what jobs you're doing. I go, I was so taken back. But the best part about it was that, like, she was confused on why I was confused. And the end of the conversation was, when I come home from Thanksgiving, I'll resign into my email on her iPad.

[Paige Desorvo]

Wait, now I'm mad that my mom isn't in my emails, because now I feel like, does my mom read?

[Gary]

Well, everyone better be on their toes, because I don't think you realize my mom is also reading it.

[Paige Desorvo]

Your mom is reading everyone's emails. Wait.

[Gary]

And she had notes.

[Paige Desorvo]

And she had notes. It's like when you're little and you're on the phone with someone, and then you hear, like, a noise, and you're like, is someone on the line?

[Gary]

I was so taken back, and especially because I was at a Daphne photo shoot, and people were talking about, like, going home for the holidays, and people were like, oh, I get a hotel when I go home so that I don't, like, burden my family and stay with them. And I look at my mom from the corner of my eye, and she's like, oh, no, Get a hotel.

[Paige Desorvo]

You're like, I made my parents switch with me, and I have their bedroom.

[Gary]

I'm like, my mom is in my emails.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, I didn't realize that I share location with my mom. And that's the thing they don't tell you.

[Gary]

So, like, yeah, no, I knew that.

[Paige Desorvo]

Thank God she has it, though, because I don't want to text her every time I land.

[Gary]

Well, that's the thing. It's very. It makes their life easier for us to share our locations. Because they're like, now when I text my mom, like, I landed. She goes, I know, but also, you.

[Paige Desorvo]

As a mom, you're.

[Gary]

You're gonna be microchipping them. I'm microchipping him.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm sorry. When you said, I'm Russia, that was.

[Gary]

One of the funniest lines. I am Russia.

[Paige Desorvo]

That was one of the funniest lines you've had.

[Gary]

And I think it's. I think it's growing up, because I feel like we are similar. We grew up in a household where, like, we love our dads. Our dads are great. Like, totally. They're like, patriarch. Let's go.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

I mean, but our moms are in charge.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. So, like, if my dad's a personality, hire. Add some color or get out. Like, unless you're adding a little light to the room. I don't need your shit.

[Gary]

My dad comes in for dramatic effects, but my mom is in control. Like, anything serious. You're asking our moms, like, yeah. So anyway, so I'm just like, that's how my household will be run. Because, sorry, men are a little bit dumber. My dad is dumber. He's not as skilled. He doesn't know what's going on.

[Paige Desorvo]

I was just with my. My extended family. My brother, his wife, and their two kids. Yeah. I was the fun aunt.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

When I tell you we went off, we woke up. First of all, Lois wakes me up and wants me to read immediately, which. Read a book to her, which should be a torture device. Have you ever tried to read the second you woke up? I'm like, she literally wakes me with this huge book, and she's like, read it to me. And then she knows she memorized the book. So if I.

[Gary]

Obviously, I'm trying out at third grade. Once they come home past third grade, sorry, I can't help anymore.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, but, like, obviously, I was, like, skimming the words. I'm not reading a full paragraph. I was like, let's get to the gist of it. And she was like, you missed the sentence. And I was like, I'm obsessed with you. Keep me on my toes.

[Gary]

You're like, look at the pictures, Lois.

[Paige Desorvo]

So I was in Indiana, which, look, there's a culture there. But I also. This happens to me all the time. My opener, Ali Colbert jokes that I interact with people where it seems like it's their first day on planet Earth. I, like, attract that energy, like it's their first time interacting with someone. So I tell Lois, let's go get smoothies, because I'm fun.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

So I go to get a smoothie, and I look at the lady, and I was like, I have the strawberry banana. Add peanut butter, please. Because I'm fun, right? She looks at me. Tell me. Tell me if I'm crazy. She looks at me and just goes, almond butter. In that moment, I'm like, okay. So many things could be happening right now.

[Gary]

Are you suggesting.

[Paige Desorvo]

Are you suggesting it? Are you. Did you not hear me? And you thought I said almond butter? Or are you saying you don't have peanut butter and you're gonna replace it with almond butter?

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

So then I. I go back at her. Cause, yeah.

[Gary]

You're like.

[Paige Desorvo]

I just go, peanut butter. That's what I said, Peanut butter. And Lois is just looking at me, and I go, yeah, don't worry. Auntie Hannah will handle this. And the woman, I swear To God looks at me and goes, almond butter. Oh. So then my heart starts. My heart rate goes up.

[Gary]

She added extra.

[Paige Desorvo]

She said, almond. Almond butter. So then I said, I am so sorry. Are you saying that you don't have peanut butter you replaced with almond butter? And she looks at me and she just nods her head. But I'm like, with a full family. I'm with my family. Yeah.

[Gary]

Sir, you're in that moment. As far as she knows, that's your child.

[Paige Desorvo]

I have my child who is looking at her mother to see how she handles social situation, adversity. So my heart's beating and I'm. But I'm like, you know, I'm funny. So I put my card and I turn to my brother after I go, did I almost feel fight that woman? And he goes, that was crazy. And I'm like, am I. Did I say it weird? Like, is it me? Yeah. And he's like, no, it's not you. Then we go to Barnes and Nobles, obviously, with our smoothies and trying to find how to giggle. I have.

[Gary]

I look in every airport.

[Paige Desorvo]

Haven't found it.

[Gary]

Me neither.

[Paige Desorvo]

I don't know.

[Gary]

I'm like, this is the one. I'm like, sure, there's a giggler here that's like this.

[Paige Desorvo]

I walk in, I'm like, everyone's staring at me. Everyone's like, that's a girl. They know I'm looking for my book. Let's go in the book. But I walk in and I'm all, like, shy. And I'm. I'm like, let's try to find it. Can't find it on our own, but Barnes and Noble is fucking huge. And also, like, I don't know what our book is under, like, self help or, like, who knows what genre is it considered new?

[Gary]

Can't put us in a box.

[Paige Desorvo]

Best selling. I don't know. So I haven't been in Barnes and Nobles in a while. So I was like, oh, I know how to find it. They have that, like, table with the computer where you, like, put the book's name in. So I'm like, come on, Lois. And I go, and I put the book's name in. I hear, ma', am, ma', am, that's for employees only. So then I look at them and I'm like, look. I look like I'm about to, like, rob Barnes and Ol. Okay, there it is. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. And then I look at my brother.

[Gary]

Again, and I'm like, am I the problem?

[Paige Desorvo]

You are the Problem.

[Gary]

So Lois is like, who knew those were for employees?

[Paige Desorvo]

I. I now thinking back, it was always an employee that would, like, write it, but it was just sitting there. Yeah. Like, at least have a sign.

[Gary]

Sorry, a girl wants to take charge.

[Paige Desorvo]

But this is why I don't leave my house.

[Gary]

No, literally, I said that the other day. I forget what I was referring to. And I was just like, and this is why I don't go home.

[Paige Desorvo]

This is what happens. Then Lo. And Lois got her nails done, which was the cutest thing ever. Manicure, pedicure. And she's obsessed with sparkles. And she does this thing where she goes, hannah, tell me a story. You should have seen. I got her so excited. I said, this little girl, you can.

[Gary]

Just make up stories on your own.

[Paige Desorvo]

Like, she literally be like, tell me a story. And you started with saying there was a little girl and her name locked in.

[Gary]

She's like, and I'm sorry.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's literally her being like, gimme gossip. I go, there's a little girl. And I'll be like, and her name was Lois. And you know when they get that face where they're like, oh, my God, like, this is going to be so good about me. And I go. And she had superpowers because everything she touched turned to sparkles. I swear to God. She went. She gasped. And I said, I'm about to freak you out right now.

[Gary]

I'm gagged right now.

[Paige Desorvo]

Her favorite color is purple. And she goes. And I go. And then one day, it turned purple also, and she was like, I am freaking out.

[Gary]

I just need to point out on the pod that you do also have a nephew.

[Paige Desorvo]

Bobby.

[Gary]

Yeah, but.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, this. This podcast is for women.

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[Paige Desorvo]

No, Bobby is actually the cutest ever. Well, then we bring them to a. It's called Sky Zone. Okay? That's what people do in the suburbs. There's a lot of creative.

[Gary]

Trampoline place.

[Paige Desorvo]

The trampoline place.

[Gary]

So I'm like, sorry, I'm breaking my neck.

[Paige Desorvo]

I was like, let's go get there. And immediately I'm like, I'm gonna throw up.

[Gary]

Mm.

[Paige Desorvo]

Lois is having the time of her life. She's somersaulting, which I'm like, that's not what you're supposed to do here. But whatever you want. Bobby is just, like, bopping around the cutest ever. And I feel like I was gonna puke. And then there was a, like, ninja warrior type obstacle course the way I quit. So, like, really? No, well. Cause I'm. My body weight is all hips down So I have no upper body strength, and my fingers are really short and fat. So, like, there was one thing where you had to, like, monkey bar it. And, like, you know, they try and they fall. I just calmly fell down.

[Gary]

Okay, next. Hannah and Paige try. Because I feel like I low key.

[Paige Desorvo]

Would be phenomenal at it. Okay, we have to.

[Gary]

What's it like? Like, okay, now that because you're not the parent and you're like the aunt, you're a little removed having seeing, like, Lois and Bobby, like, would you rather have a girl or a boy? Like, what looks easier?

[Paige Desorvo]

Lois is observant. Lois doesn't let you lie down. Lois says, why? Where? Bobby's just happy to be there.

[Gary]

He's, like, happy to be involved. Got a snack?

[Paige Desorvo]

It's literally art. Like, think of your parents. Like it. Like, it's always the same.

[Gary]

My dad was talking to, I think it was like, my brother's girlfriend's mom, and he was just, like, saying he was talking about, like, having kids or something, and he looks at her, and he was like, well, I'm a girl dad.

[Paige Desorvo]

Cute.

[Gary]

My dad has a son. You have a son. Has a full son. I'm like, girl dads are for dads who only have daughters. Dad, I'm like, you. You. I know you feel that, and I feel it for you.

[Paige Desorvo]

We're the same father.

[Gary]

I go, you can't say that.

[Paige Desorvo]

My father's like, Facebook photo is a photo of me just like.

[Gary]

He's like, no, but I. I am. I'm a girl clown.

[Paige Desorvo]

We're the password kids. Yeah. With passwords.

[Gary]

If my dad had to keep passwords, and my mom obviously keeps them, I would be the password child. What Another great example. My dad doesn't you ask him any password. He's like, what?

[Paige Desorvo]

My favorite. Because the holidays are coming along. I love looking at my dad being like, do you know what this is? No. Because you were not involved in any of the shop anything. But guess who got to get for you? Me. You get mom to do all of it?

[Gary]

No, I love it. Speaking of Thanksgiving, I literally thought I was, like, going crazy. You know, like, when you go on TikTok and it's like Mandela effect, and it's like, things whatever. And, like, usually I'm like, okay, there could, like, an explanation for that or, like, it changed over. I really started to get scared the other day to the point where I called my mom, and she's like, yeah, I see it. She was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I thought Thanksgiving was always the third Thursday.

[Paige Desorvo]

Oh, this has been my pay grade. I don't. That's none of my business.

[Gary]

Of November.

[Paige Desorvo]

I wait for someone to tell me it's next week and then I do it.

[Gary]

But it's not. It's always been the last Thursday of the month. And people are like, if you. If you think that it was the third Thursday, you're in a different timeline.

[Paige Desorvo]

And so, like, I'm genuinely convinced I'm.

[Gary]

On a different timeline.

[Paige Desorvo]

I thought it was always the 28th.

[Gary]

Is it?

[Paige Desorvo]

I don't know. No, don't listen to me. I don't. It's the 27th this year.

[Gary]

It's the 27th this Year. But I always thought it was the third Thursday I got my tooth done.

[Paige Desorvo]

Let me see. Sorry, that's. It looks. Wait, it looks so different. Wait, okay, wait. Doesn't.

[Gary]

But also it does.

[Paige Desorvo]

Do you feel better?

[Gary]

Yes.

[Paige Desorvo]

That's all that matters.

[Gary]

Okay, so I got a veneer just on this tooth next to my front tooth, but I didn't get my tooth shaved. Shaven down.

[Paige Desorvo]

You got a veneer, but not on the front tooth. On this one.

[Gary]

This one. Dr. Eric Chazen, Madison Dental. He's been my dentist for 10 years.

[Paige Desorvo]

Wait, did they shave it down?

[Gary]

No, because my tooth was so pushed back. He was like, I can just glue on the veneer to your tooth and it'll be like the result you want. And I'm obsessed.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I love him. Smiley lately.

[Gary]

Have I. Yeah, I love my smile now.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, it was really all the time.

[Gary]

Me, though.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Actually, yeah. When I got Invisalign, you always have that moment where you're like, would you do anything? And the lady was like, yeah, like, there's one tooth that there. I could, like, put some more teeth there.

[Gary]

So I'm going to do Invisalign on the bottom and my top.

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Like, I'm good. I feel good.

[Gary]

And he's like, and I don't need to see you now for a while. And I'm like, okay.

[Paige Desorvo]

You love.

[Gary]

I love the dentist.

[Paige Desorvo]

A dentist. You love a dermatologist. That's where you feel alive.

[Gary]

Doctor says, like, I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to make you come back in, like next week. I'm like, no, I'm sad. I love my.

[Paige Desorvo]

I told you. I went to get a facial and they were like, to book a laser, you have to like, book again. And I'm like, you will never see me again.

[Gary]

Yeah, I love a follow up.

[Paige Desorvo]

You love.

[Gary]

I love a follow up appointment. They're like, and we're just gonna need to see you back. I'm like, and I'm here.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm Here you go. Just us two besties.

[Gary]

Honestly, that's like one of the biggest reasons why I was like, I could never leave New York City. I'm like, all my people are here, all my doctors.

[Paige Desorvo]

Whenever I go to the doctor, I'm always like, I should do this more often. Yeah. But like, it's. I told you. I was talking to someone from LA and they were like, who's your anti aging doctor? And I was like, I don't have a doctor. Wait, I don't have a doctor.

[Gary]

That's so la. But what were they referring to? I wish you got more information on Gigglers. It's officially gift swap season. And excited, me and Hannah have gifts for each other from Ulta Beauty and I. You're my favorite person to get a gift from and also give a gift.

[Paige Desorvo]

Why?

[Gary]

Because I like to see your thought process. You know, I like to see.

[Paige Desorvo]

But also, I love Ulta because there's so many different things I could pick.

[Gary]

And you can really get something for everyone.

[Paige Desorvo]

Whether it's your skincare obsessed girl, whether the one who likes to put on makeup for a fancy event.

[Gary]

Fragrances. They have a ton of fragrances.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yes. It's just your ultimate gifting destination. Also, I love an app. They have a great beauty app where I could just boop, boop, boop, boom, boom. Can I give you your gift? Yes, actually, let's swap. Swap. You go first.

[Gary]

You know, I love, like, good pack. You know, I love this.

[Paige Desorvo]

I know you would wear that as, like, a purse to an event. I got you the Clinique Black Honey vault. So Black Honey is kind of their, like, iconic shade. Yeah. That they've known about forever.

[Gary]

I feel like it really does look good on everyone. These are my favorite.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Do you want to know why? Because these are, like, a little nostalgic.

[Paige Desorvo]

I know. I also feel like you will have, like, six lip glosses in your purse and you still need more. Like you'd like to have options.

[Gary]

I don't leave the house unless I have, like, three options for lip.

[Paige Desorvo]

And also, like, people don't talk about changing your lip midday. Sometimes you change with them.

[Gary]

Like, so many people are like, does it last all day? It's like, well, maybe it doesn't because I'm gonna throw a different look at 2:00pm Exactly.

[Paige Desorvo]

Exactly. Especially when you have outfit changes. You need lip changes.

[Gary]

Wait. And then you can legit use this.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. It's really cute.

[Gary]

This is a great gift. I love something that comes in, like, a little set, and it's like, the gift is already practically wrapped, and silver's in.

[Paige Desorvo]

Let's see what Paige got me. So you think I smell? I love Sol de Janeiro.

[Gary]

Sol de Janeiro is the best. And also, you're a driver now, so, like, you actually have to keep sprays in a car because it's just, like, a rite of passage.

[Paige Desorvo]

You could spray this anywhere, anytime. Because it's a mistake.

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[Paige Desorvo]

And it has. Oh, my God. Fresh guava nectar, sunlit orchid, and sensuous pink musk. Is that what you think about me when you think of me?

[Gary]

Pink musk?

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah, it is.

[Gary]

And that's the sol de Janeiro Shirosa 48. It's one of their best sellers. I like to call it the pink one because I think it's the prettiest one. Also, when you walk into Ulta Beauty, you can obviously find a gift, but you might discover something new for yourself. Like, there's always new skin. Care to discover what I always say?

[Paige Desorvo]

One for you, one for me. That's how I do my Christmas shopping. Or you forget that you only got stuff for you and you didn't get stuff for everyone else. And that's something. That's okay. It's something I'm working on.

[Gary]

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[Paige Desorvo]

Wait.

[Gary]

Another thing I saw on TikTok, which is really blowing my mind, it was this, like, news outlet in Canada, and it was this woman who. I forget what her, like, exact job is, but it's like, the study of, like, certain animal species. And she was saying that in the past 10 years, raccoons are making a really intense play to be domesticated.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, was it because they're starting to become cuter?

[Gary]

Their snouts have changed.

[Paige Desorvo]

They're smaller.

[Gary]

They're smaller. It's easier for them to get food, I think, because so many people are feeding them, and they said this was, like, similar to what cats did. They just, like, hung around more and were like, hey, I can come in. But also, speaking of Russia, last. Last pod we were talking about it. They're domesticated in Russia. Like, if you ever get, like, a random Russian TikTok they have fucking raccoons as pets. They take them to the grocery store.

[Paige Desorvo]

Don't raccoons have thumbs, Chris? They do.

[Gary]

I think raccoons do have opposable thumbs.

[Paige Desorvo]

That's your child. Like, those are furry humans.

[Gary]

Here's the thing. I really feel like it's a hybrid between a cat and a dog, kind of. Because it's cat, like, where it's, like, taking things with its hands, but it's also like, dog, like, because it's like, it's messy. Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's like, hey, I mean, don't tempt me with a new animal that I could domesticate.

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[Gary]

I'm just like, in 15 years, like, if someone was like, here's your pet raccoon.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, did you hear? People are really upset about how pigeons are treated in New York.

[Gary]

I have seen some discourse about.

[Paige Desorvo]

Because pigeons back in the day were renowned. Renowned. They were.

[Gary]

They worked for the government.

[Paige Desorvo]

They were women in staff, literally. Yeah, they were.

[Gary]

The people communicated.

[Paige Desorvo]

Have you seen Game of Thrones? That's how they communicated.

[Gary]

We're just like, idiots.

[Paige Desorvo]

And now we're like, get out of the way. And every now and then. Do you ever see a pigeon that's, like, walking with you? And I'm like, it could be us.

[Gary]

Well, you want to know what? I have a lot of pigeons that sit on my windowsill.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

And I don't know why they're gossiping. It was specifically my windowsill. But those are kitty's friends.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yes. Butter loves.

[Gary]

And they go all over my windowsill. But it's another.

[Paige Desorvo]

That's for another time. I did something kind of adorable, and my brother and I went out to dinner together.

[Gary]

Just the two of you.

[Paige Desorvo]

Which, honestly, I don't know if we've ever done. Ever done. Like, yeah, we'd hang out in college and stuff, but never, like, as adults.

[Gary]

Gary and I went out to dinner just the two of us. Not this summer, but the summer before, because my parents. We were on vacation. My parents were like, we're not gonna go. We don't feel well. You guys go, that's crazy.

[Paige Desorvo]

And we looked at each other. It's like, you're not supposed to be alone with your sibling. That's when weird, bad things happen.

[Gary]

TikTok where it was like, when my siblings crying and I pat their back because my parents never taught us how to console each other. There is something, like, inherently awkward with your sibling. But then it's like, so not.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's. Yeah. It feels so familiar, but also so weird. Also because we Left his wife and children at home. But we. We babysit the night before.

[Gary]

There's also, like, an overwhelming ick to it because you're like, people think we're on a date.

[Paige Desorvo]

Like, that's disgusting. That's the thing about me and my brother. He's blonde with blue eyes. Yeah. And he's a year and a half younger than me. We're very close, but because he lives in Chicago, it's been, like, different because I can't see him. But it was so funny. We get in the car, and they drive differently in the Midwest. Like, we were in a lane that wasn't moving, and all the other lanes were moving. And, you know, you're just in New York. Like, they'll kill a family to get ahead. Yeah. The car is, like, not going to their lane. But my brother and I are both polite. Yeah. Like, we didn't have someone in the car to be, like, racing to get home.

[Gary]

They're like, this is life.

[Paige Desorvo]

We had a reservation. They were just like, oh, yeah. The traffic bad. The traffic is bad. And I'm like, well, can you. Can we make some moves?

[Gary]

No. New York has definitely made me way more impatient than I feel like I.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I love how the Uber drivers. You'll be like, no rush. And they're like, it's okay. And then they just like.

[Gary]

They're like, really? Because I'm in one.

[Paige Desorvo]

They're just in the bus lane. And you're like, actually, get ahead, motherfucker, get ahead. So we get to the restaurant.

[Gary]

I was just going to say. So, like, walk us through it. Like, talk about.

[Paige Desorvo]

So we're talking, and then we end up being in, like, the worst traffic ever, to the point where I was like, well, I think we ran out. We've run out of stuff to talk about, and we still have a whole dinner together.

[Gary]

So it's funny because it's similar to, like, I would assume that when my parents go out to dinner together, just the two of them, like, what are they talking about other than me, you know?

[Paige Desorvo]

I know. Well, we love talking about the parents.

[Gary]

So it's the kind of the same thing. Because making fun of your parents with your sibling is like a different symbiosis.

[Paige Desorvo]

I even was talking about, like, a memory I had, and he was like, I was there. And I was like, you were. It's funny how your memories, like, you don't remember fully. I'm like, you were in the car during that.

[Gary]

And he's like, yeah, a couple years ago. It, like, I don't Know if it was like, a therapist said this or, like, where it was, but it was like, just because you and your sibling grew up in the same house with the same parents the same amount of years.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

Doesn't mean they had the same childhood experience. Experiences. You.

[Paige Desorvo]

100%. And.

[Gary]

Like, kind of hurt my brain. I was like, wait, what do you mean? You didn't experience that the way I ex. Like, I experienced my dad very differently than my brother experienced my dad.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Like, he walked in the room. Your dad didn't even say good morning? No.

[Gary]

Like, he was.

[Paige Desorvo]

Was like, you know, my sweetie poopy.

[Gary]

Like, a little bit more scared of my dad because they would, like, have to wait, work together where like. Like, if it snowed, my brother woke up knowing he had to shovel where I woke up knowing, like, hot chocolate.

[Paige Desorvo]

My dad's going to Dunkin Donuts today.

[Gary]

Like, you know, like, everyone's getting munchkins. Like, there's so many different things where, like, you realize you had a different experience.

[Paige Desorvo]

But it's so cute to think of, like, the memories that just you guys had. Like, I was. I was like, do you remember that Mexican restaurant? We'd eat at the corner, and we'd eat everything, and then we lived up that block and. And my dad would go, okay, race. And he'd make us race on a full stomach full of Mexican Michael Vick. It was crazy. And then I would always win because I was older. And I'm like, was that because I loved winning? But I was like, that must have. After, like, the 40th time you lost. That must have hurt. And I was weird to play football. And again, was bigger than him, and I know him down.

[Gary]

It's so true. They siblings really are the only people that knew you as a child who also will know you as an adult. Like, even some of your. Like, some of your friends. I don't know what you were like when you were three.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. 100. Also, Daniel's kids are the same age difference and look exactly the same as me and him. Yeah. So it's like watching us as kids, I try to explain to Lois. I'm like, well, Bobby is to you. Daniel is to me.

[Gary]

Yeah. Like, kids.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm like, your dad is my little stupid brother. Yeah.

[Gary]

Like, does Lois know that her grandma is your mom? Probably not.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's fucking smart, though. You know, every now and then you're like, are you genius, or are we.

[Gary]

In that situation where, like, do you just think that because she's hurt yours.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm so that person Where I'm like, that was the most athletic thing any kid's ever done.

[Gary]

Or was it just like a waste of our time?

[Paige Desorvo]

She.

[Gary]

Or was that spin move kind of ridiculous and not at all athletic? You know, but because she's yours. Are you like, sorry, Lois is like.

[Paige Desorvo]

You don't have any niece or nephews, do you, that you know of? I was explaining to Daniel, I'm like, that's my child. Like, it's my genes with someone else's genes.

[Gary]

The closest I have is like, my cousin has kids, but they live in Chicago, so it's not even like I. I saw.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's also weird because my aunt and uncle, I'm like, yeah, like, I like you guys. But like, I don't realize. I love Lois and Bobby more than anything. I mean, those are my kids. Like, I'll steal them.

[Gary]

Yeah, I don't have that. I don't have anything like that.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm really sorry about that.

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[Paige Desorvo]

Dan and I go to this, like, fancy restaurant in Chicago and we get there and they're like, it's a collaboration with an artist.

[Gary]

And immediately did I checked out.

[Paige Desorvo]

There's these like, like tables that you stand right? And they were like, okay, thank you so much for coming. This is the art. Make yourself Comfortable. And they bring us like an appetizer. And I look at Daniel, I go, did is the reservation for like a standing table? Because everyone else is sitting and we're standing at this table. And I'm like, did we. Did you mess up? And we're standing and he's like, I've.

[Gary]

Never even heard of something like this.

[Paige Desorvo]

But this is also my life. Every time I walk, it's people's first day on the road. It's literally everything.

[Gary]

You get hit with the most random.

[Paige Desorvo]

Everything is a Seinfeld episode. And then he's like, I don't think so. And I go, why'd you say, make yourself comfortable if we're standing here? Like, it makes it sound like we're gonna be here for a long time. So then we start freaking out. We're like, are we at a standing table after being in traffic for two hours at this. Like, it was one of those tasting menus that's like three hours.

[Gary]

I hate a tasting menu.

[Paige Desorvo]

So then we're panicking, and then finally the lady was like, okay, now come with me. I'm like, that was unnecessary, whatever just happened. But we sit down and a woman comes up to the table and she goes, I'm so sorry.

[Gary]

Wait. I feel like that's a great idea for a restaurant in LA where it's like you like walk on your walking pad while you're eating. Like, that is some like a standing restaurant.

[Paige Desorvo]

Only a standing desk restaurant.

[Gary]

And you do squats.

[Paige Desorvo]

This lady comes to the table and she goes, I just want you to know there's a lot of dairy on this menu. And I go like, I love a giggler with an entrance. I love a giggler that has a line. Is like, I'm going to get you all. My brother's literally looking like, what? And I'm like, it's just me and the girls. I go, I'm going to shit myself. Thank you. And my brother's. We're at a fancy restaurant. And I'm like, do you have a lactate? She's like, I actually do, if you need. And I'm like, no, I'm going to. I'm going to raw dog this one. Thank you so much. And of course she's like, I'm so biased. But the gigglers are all like a hot, successful, smart, funny, gorgeous. And she. What a lie. And that was iconic. And then the guy comes and he's like, oh, we have some, some more recipes, some more options for add ons. They had like a $150 like, ravioli.

[Gary]

$150 ravioli. What is in the middle or something?

[Paige Desorvo]

A little truffle mushroom. So my brother, the way he phrased this was so funny. But he goes, sorry, I didn't do a lot of research on the menu is how he started it. And I was like, oh, my God. Because we're, like, kind of young to be at the restaurant. It was all, like, old people. Yeah. And then he goes, how many, like, actual meals are there?

[Gary]

And he leaves, like, courses.

[Paige Desorvo]

Courses, yeah. And I'm like, daniel, the way you started that, it sounded like you were about to be like, is this a Wendy? Like, we're out of. So we're just, like, giggling. And then the guy puts down the meal, and my brother looks at me and goes, almond butter. And then we're losing it. Like, we are losing it. There's nothing better than a call back.

[Gary]

Especially from, like, a sibling earlier in the day.

[Paige Desorvo]

Because one thing about my brother. Your brother's very, very funny. Yeah. My brother's actually quite stiff and professional and, like, the adult. Like, he's more mature than me, but after one drink, yeah, he's funny. He's me. Like, he's so goofy. And then, well, grow.

[Gary]

Back to siblings, have different experiences. Growing up with you, you were probably.

[Paige Desorvo]

Someone had to hold it together.

[Gary]

So loud and, like, confident and, like, I'm gonna say this, and this is funny that he was probably like, and that's her, and this is me. I'm, like, a little bit more.

[Paige Desorvo]

He's reserved. He's. He's strong. He's sensitive. Beautiful. Great man. So proud of that man. We support him in the arts. Then when you go to these tasting menus, the descriptions they have of everything.

[Gary]

Why did you guys pick a tasting menu?

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, because he's like. He's like a foodie. Like, he, like, loves.

[Gary]

Like, you, like, did it by accident.

[Paige Desorvo]

It is kind of fun because you get to, like, Gordon Ramsay. It. Like, you taste it, and you look at each other and you go, the acidity. Yeah. Really strong.

[Gary]

You're like, is that a foam of some sort? There's always a foam elderflower on a tasting. It's like, you don't need to foam this.

[Paige Desorvo]

There's always a foam. They love a foam.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's like. That's like me adding a bow at the end. You didn't need it. But it was so funny because they describe these things. They'll be like, and then we got this rock from a mountain and fell in us and whatever. So then Daniel started, like, Making up stuff. Because they talk about, like, they'll be.

[Gary]

Like, there's so many skits that can be performed.

[Paige Desorvo]

And the way we killed this was. There was a ninja. There was no pain. The goat didn't see it coming, and its family was nowhere near it. Like this. Just so many details about it. So he starts doing that.

[Gary]

Wait, that's so funny.

[Paige Desorvo]

So we're just, like, giggling the whole meal. And then the giggler was obviously coming in, adding riff. So we had.

[Gary]

You had a nice time.

[Paige Desorvo]

I had a nice time with my brother.

[Gary]

That's so nice.

[Paige Desorvo]

I had a nice time with my little brother. I also feel like you had an older brother, which is completely different dynamic. I feel like they beat you up. Like, I'm beaten down.

[Gary]

Like, I came out of the womb just tired.

[Paige Desorvo]

Like, Lois is the older one, and I'm watching Bobby will, like, annoy her, and she's not going to beat him up. She'll just be like, bobby, stop it. Where I feel like older brothers probably just, like, smacked. Yeah, yeah.

[Gary]

They. They beat you down so badly that you have nothing left to give. You want to know what I think that is why, like, in so many of my, like, dating relationships that men have described me as, like, having a man's mentality. Because there is so much shit that I don't care. That I'm like, I don't care. Like, shut up.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Whatever.

[Gary]

And I think it is growing up with an older brother that, like, any emotional thing that I'd be like. And this is upset, he'd be like, shut up. No one cares. Not a big deal. Get over it. So that. So I almost was like, okay, I don't care about that. If I had a sister, I don't think it would have been good for the world. I would have been so much more catty and calculating. I feel like. And, like, read into things where, like, the majority of things in my life, I'm like, I don't care.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Yeah. I. There is positivity of having a brother in the household. It's fun to, like, throw a tampon at them. Yeah.

[Gary]

And I think my brother and I were a good amount of years apart that I actually. I always felt like an only child. Like, I never felt like, because my brother was doing things I couldn't because it was so opposite things.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

He's so boyish, and I'm so girly that we never overlapped.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's my brother. During high school, I went to three different high schools. Like, I went for a tennis team. Then I Went to Florida. Then I went back, and my brother was, like, there. So I left him for a second when I was 14.

[Gary]

My brother, like, to this day, now, mind you, I'm 33 years old. This man is 37. Still will say, you abandoned me.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I'm like, because you went to New York.

[Gary]

And he's like, when you went away and I go to jail, I'm like.

[Paige Desorvo]

Wait, what do you mean?

[Gary]

He's like, you moved to New York City? I'm like, to start my life, like. But it really upset. Like, to this day, really upsets him.

[Paige Desorvo]

Gary has a Metro card. Like, no.

[Gary]

I'm like, I see you every weekend. You're at my apartment. I see you more now than when you were in high school.

[Paige Desorvo]

You know, it's actually so freaking cute. My brother. I would, like, go to different schools because of tennis. My brother followed me to literally every school except when I went to Florida.

[Gary]

Did he like that?

[Paige Desorvo]

He ended? I guess. I don't think there was.

[Gary]

We haven't talked about it.

[Paige Desorvo]

We haven't talked about it, actually.

[Gary]

He's actually to himself and his therapist.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

It's weird.

[Paige Desorvo]

And then he went to Wisconsin with me. Oh, wow. Isn't that crazy?

[Gary]

Wait, that is fun.

[Paige Desorvo]

He followed me everywhere, but he had a whole different life.

[Gary]

There's also, I think, a different discourse with me and my brother because I was younger that, like, my whole life I was known as Gary dosorbo's little sister. But now, anywhere, like, he's a lawyer, he'll be in court, and a judge will be like, we watch. Here's this. You know, so, like, now he's Paige desorbo's brother, and it takes a. It's very jarring for him. He does not like that.

[Paige Desorvo]

I don't want to put my brother on blast, but he's at a big company, and he is doing everything in his power for people not to know that he's my brother. Like, literally, he's so. Like, he's so proud of me, but he does not want to be part of any of it. Yeah. And he said that he got, like, a. A, like, slack message from, like, some funny, beautiful, smart girl. Yeah. Who was like, by the way, I know. And he was like, don't tell anyone.

[Gary]

He's like, I don't know her.

[Paige Desorvo]

No. He goes, never heard of her.

[Gary]

Never.

[Paige Desorvo]

I think we were separated at birth. So thank you. So anyway, if there's someone with my last name. Of your company. That's my brother.

[Gary]

One thing I'd like to bring to the forefront.

[Paige Desorvo]

Oh, yes.

[Gary]

That. I think that, like, AI needs to get on. People at Apple need to get on. Look, everyone's like, we don't need AI taking people's jobs. Totally. I completely agree with that. Let's use AI for things that we can actually use. Why can't I go into my pictures, into my photos album and type in a gift exactly what I'm looking for? And it not. Pull it up. Like, I want to type in mirror, selfie, red dress, purple shoes. Give me the picture.

[Paige Desorvo]

It doesn't come up.

[Gary]

No, like, it's. They have a search, but it's not accurate.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah, like, I'll. I'll put like, mom. And, like, it shows my dad.

[Gary]

Yeah, I'm like, pull her up. You know who she is.

[Paige Desorvo]

You know who she is. You know, do you ever search for cat photos?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Of course.

[Gary]

Daphne's labeled in there, obviously. But, like.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, you're right.

[Gary]

Honestly, now that I think about it, my mom was probably to my FBI agent in my phone, like, all good. Here, I got it. I've been monitoring your emails. We don't need you. I'll send you the report.

[Paige Desorvo]

Next level, CIA intelligence. Like, hire that woman.

[Gary]

Stop thinking about it.

[Paige Desorvo]

Put her in the top level of the government. Yeah. It needs to be moms running things. It needs to be more like.

[Gary]

You know how Vince Vaughn did that movie and it was like, retired Italian grandmas and they, like, made a restaurant so cute. It really should be like, retired moms. Just like my retired mom running some type of vigilante is so busy with.

[Paige Desorvo]

She has a knitting club. She has a fundraising club. She has a historical society. I'm like, mom, at this point, get paid.

[Gary]

No, I work. I literally said to my mom the other day, I go, how did you work? You're so busy.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's busier than me. I call my retired mom. I'm calling, and she's like, can't talk right now, sweetie. Thank you. I'm running a new fundraiser.

[Gary]

Or my mom will be out to lunch, and she'll be like, sorry, I can't talk. I'm at lunch. You know Barbara? I have no idea who the fuck Barbara is.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yes. Come on.

[Gary]

You know her. I'm like, I hang. I'm like, I can't.

[Paige Desorvo]

Who the fuck is Madeline?

[Gary]

No, that's literally how I feel when she's like, I'm out to dinner with.

[Paige Desorvo]

My mom says the knitting club is the craziest gossip ever. Because these bitches just go to gossip.

[Gary]

Like, they sit about like, other people in town.

[Paige Desorvo]

They know everything. Their husbands, they know everything. And they're like, are you ready? And she's like, ached. That's insane. But like it's hard to get into the knitting club. Oh, good question. Probably. Yeah. I have a story slash I want to hear your take.

[Gary]

Okay.

[Paige Desorvo]

Jennifer Aniston, who we love, has a new boyfriend. Have you seen this?

[Gary]

I've seen snippets. I like, I couldn't pick him out of a lineup and I saw he's like a good looking guy, but he does motivational and that's. Yeah. What is it? That's like for couples.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's like a life coach situation. So look, I was with Ali, my opener. We're before shows what we do. She says, what do you think about Jennifer Aniston's new man? He's so good looking. So I look, I see an older man. I said, you know, that's my type. And then immediately I see something about like I am worthy or something. I said, hold, you go.

[Gary]

Let me stop you right there.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I go, I don't like this at all. It's giving Denise Richards ex husband that energy. And I said also, are you a relationship coach who's single? I don't like that. I don't like any life coaches. I don't want my life coach to be good looking either because that means you're using an algorithm. Manipulative, not. Look, I don't know this man. I don't know this man.

[Gary]

You need a life coach, you call my mom, I'll give you the number. Don't get scammed by these people. Call your mom, she'll straighten you right? That's my mom's favorite phrase. I'll straighten you right out.

[Paige Desorvo]

Do I actually trust this guy though? Because he did manifest.

[Gary]

Jennifer Aniston.

[Paige Desorvo]

Jennifer Aniston. Maybe he does know something about manifesting. However, having a good looking man look at the camera and tell you life advice gets me sick to my stomach.

[Gary]

Hannah. And preaching to the motherfucking choir.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I don't want to like be so negative, you guys, but like whenever I've been depressed, what do you do? You buy like three self help books that you'll never read and then you like sign up for a class of like figuring out life. If you could just buy happiness, all of us would be happy. You just have to like get a loan and then your phone.

[Gary]

My thing with life coaches and like no hate, no shade, but like a little what As a person seeking some type of guidance. Why am I picking a life coach over A therapist who went to school.

[Paige Desorvo]

School. Well, also medical life coaches. If. If you. Okay. If. I'm a big podcaster.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I want to give advice on podcasts. That makes sense to me.

[Gary]

Totally.

[Paige Desorvo]

What have you done in your life that you.

[Gary]

I'm a drug addict and I'm trying to overcome being a drug addict. You're a life coach. You were a drug addict.

[Paige Desorvo]

Totally.

[Gary]

But like, what other. Not just like, I'm going through a rough time, want to become a Pilates instructor.

[Paige Desorvo]

But this is what they do. Like a Tony Robbins.

[Gary]

I'm weird.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, 100%. Because what he's done is created a multi, multi million dollar business motivational to help people where. Where they make most of their money is from classes to teach other people how to be a life coach. Now, I don't know a lot of math.

[Gary]

That would be like, if one day.

[Paige Desorvo]

That'S called a pyramid scheme.

[Gary]

That would be like, one day if we were like, hey, the giggly squad has great advice. Pay for the episodes.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Well, it's. Or pay for us to give you lessons on how to become a big podcast. And then you. You can. You don't become a big podcast, though. You just teach other people how to become a big podcast based on our knowledge of podcasting.

[Gary]

Yeah. It's just.

[Paige Desorvo]

It's crazy.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

So I'm like, ali's about to go. And Ali's like, no, but these people help you. Like, you ever, like, down and you see a quote, I'm like, these people steal other people's quotes.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

Put their name under it and put it with a nice font. The.

[Gary]

Any. Anytime I see a good looking man posting a motivational quote, something went seriously wrong. He's got financial issues. He's in the closet.

[Paige Desorvo]

Weird stuff with his mom. Weird stuff with his mom. Very weird.

[Gary]

Very weird stuff.

[Paige Desorvo]

Boundaries have been crossed. So I'm literally. And she's like, but I love, like, I love the idea of self help. I'm like, yeah, I love it. But when people start to scamming you for money and like, they're making money off people in their darkest time, I don't like it.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

And she's like, okay. I'm like, get on stage. I swear to God, you know?

[Gary]

And I know the tone you get when you're really passionate.

[Paige Desorvo]

And she, like, got. I could tell she was like taking advantage of her. And Ali was like, okay, I didn't realize you were so. But it was funny. Halfway through, at first she was upset, and then halfway through she's like, I just want you to know you're turning me on this. Like I actually could be swayed with this right now. I'm like. And then I felt the momentum and I'm going in. I'm like, this life coaching is fucked up. I hate it. Da, da, da.

[Gary]

I hope he's nice for her sake.

[Paige Desorvo]

Like, the next day I text her and I said, hey. Oh, this continued. I said, hey, my astrologer. Yesterday I said, my astrologer psychic is coming after the show and she is gonna give us readings. And she goes, are you fucking out of your fucking mind? And I said, don't ask questions. Don't ask questions. She goes, so you lost a life coach, but you're making me talk to a psychic?

[Gary]

I go, hey, different.

[Paige Desorvo]

Don't yuck. People's yawns.

[Gary]

Yeah, different.

[Paige Desorvo]

We're on a journey together.

[Gary]

I have an appointment December 9th.

[Paige Desorvo]

But you know what I say I know that I don't know. Yeah. And that's true knowledge is knowing that you don't know. And I'm not telling people that I know things. Allie did say I would be a great motivational speaker. Do you know why I know I could do what they do? I'm like, I could literally do it tomorrow. I know how to do it. I have JV coach energy. I can get anyone from the dumps. You have to be confident in themselves. I could be a relationship coach.

[Gary]

What's the team in high school where it's like, it's varsity jv and then they're like the. It's like, there's another one after school.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, it's like you're like varsity. I didn't know.

[Gary]

You're too small.

[Paige Desorvo]

Are you trying to say pee wee?

[Gary]

No, it's in high school or bit. It's like eighth graders. Oh, it's like varsity JV modified.

[Paige Desorvo]

Oh, that was. That was a made up thing they told you. Modified.

[Gary]

Okay, so every eighth grader was modified. Yeah. It was like if eighth graders played and it was just eighth graders. I mean, I didn't play anything. I wasn't on it when I was 8th grader. I was like, I heard about it.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Gary]

Anyway, I don't even know where I.

[Paige Desorvo]

Was going know that I would coach the modified. Yeah, no, I love being a hype girl. I love making people feel better about themselves. But to make people pay money for it, it feels icky. It feels friend. But then again, if you have psychic abilities. Yes, Charge people.

[Gary]

Totally.

[Paige Desorvo]

And if you're making up your psychic abilities, that's on them because that's on them for paying.

[Gary]

Well, I don't. I just am weary of like a man being a life coach because they lie a lot, you know?

[Paige Desorvo]

And also, when is a man ever reflected?

[Gary]

No, and also like.

[Paige Desorvo]

I love what Chris thinks. It's funny.

[Gary]

When am I ever going to a.

[Paige Desorvo]

Man for life advice?

[Gary]

You guys have been fucking it up for so long.

[Paige Desorvo]

How. When has something ever happened in your life and you thought, I'm gonna call my dad? No, never.

[Gary]

Not one time.

[Paige Desorvo]

Been at a four way stop sign and been like, where do I go? A fork in the road.

[Gary]

The only time I've called my dad in dire need is when my mom's getting her hair done and she physically can't pick up the phone. That is the only time that woman cannot take my car.

[Paige Desorvo]

Do you know the only people I want life advice from? Nana, an 87 year old smoker. Yeah, tell me everything, which I feel like I embody you do you do you have an.

[Gary]

I feel like I have an old nicotine soul. Yes. I feel like I have the, the energy of an 85 year old woman who smokes a cigarette but still dyes her hair.

[Paige Desorvo]

I don't want a handsome 47 year old man talking to me about adversity.

[Gary]

Certainly not one that has longer hair that he can push back.

[Paige Desorvo]

You know exactly what he looks like. It's. It's grown a little bit. You know, he goes to the hairdresser and he's like, I want a little bit of a flow where I can kind of.

[Gary]

I'm sick to myself.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, stop.

[Gary]

I actually vomit.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I know that Jennifer Aniston, like, is about wellness. She loves smart water. She loves working out. I feel like he might. I. He's not.

[Gary]

But look, you're just not loving it for our. We're gonna wait and see.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

We're gonna.

[Gary]

We're not gonna speak ill of him.

[Paige Desorvo]

There's worse people she could date.

[Gary]

Totally.

[Paige Desorvo]

Totally. But like, if she's my friend, I would want better for her.

[Gary]

Yeah, I got it. I absolutely.

[Paige Desorvo]

I don't like it. I think it's scammy. I think it's scam. Scam.

[Gary]

Well, we'll have to just like wait and see. I don't find.

[Paige Desorvo]

I think apparently they're really happy.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

So whatever.

[Paige Desorvo]

Apparently really happy together. I'll talk to a psychic to find out.

[Gary]

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[Paige Desorvo]

Quick trend report. As you know, I like to do funnel necks. All the girls are in a funnel neck. What do you think? Love it. Doesn't give like tortoise.

[Gary]

No, I love it. I Love a funnel neck.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, do you remember Victoria Beckham in her documentary when she put on that jacket that covered her whole face?

[Gary]

There was like a TikTok and it was like, gay Halloween. And it was like a guy and he was like, just like, I'm Victoria Beckham trying on her jacket. And he just kept zipping it up and down. I love a funnel neck. I love Victoria Beckham.

[Paige Desorvo]

I like a funnel neck because sometimes I get double chins and if I have a funnel neck, I could, like, laugh.

[Gary]

No one likes that. Like, trends like that I love. It's like, we're not going to be doing it for long, but it looks cool. So why am I not going to buy a jacket with a funnel neck?

[Paige Desorvo]

And I dabble with a trend that, like, is good with my face shape.

[Gary]

Totally.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. I watched a Zara Larson documentary on app Amazon. Exactly, exactly.

[Gary]

Zara Larson.

[Paige Desorvo]

She has some of the.

[Gary]

I don't know why I just yelled.

[Paige Desorvo]

I can hear you. She had some of the top songs, like, ever. Okay. I live my day as if it was the past Lima D as if it was the past Living life None life no summer Living life the way I wanna.

[Gary]

Yes. And now I got it.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yes. Yep. She sings that song. She sings. Okay. You know. Yeah. She sings all these top songs, but no one knows who she is. But she has, like, five of, like, the top songs of the last decade.

[Gary]

Why?

[Paige Desorvo]

Great question. She's basically like, why are my songs so good but no one knows who I am? And I think it comes down to branding, and so it's really interesting to watch.

[Gary]

Blonder, Brunette, she's in between she's blonde.

[Paige Desorvo]

She'S blonde she's blonde She's Swedish. She's like, so perfect. Looking like a doll, like, but she dresses very kind of like.

[Gary]

How old is she?

[Paige Desorvo]

Sparkly? 27. She. It's kind of like you think of Olivia Dean.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

You got the hair, you got the outfit. You see it like. You see it like, the branding is so good.

[Gary]

I think I saw a thing that said that, like, if you want to be a pop star, you can't be like, Tate McRae is the exception where she's blonde. Brunette. You have to either be fully brunette or fully blonde also.

[Paige Desorvo]

But what I think Tate McRae does is you have to stick to a hairstyle. Yeah. But, I mean, Zara Larson does, like, have a hairstyle. It's more just like she hasn't found her voice. So it's a cool thing to watch. This girl who's so successful but no one knows who she is and trying to find her voice and her managers are sitting there and I'm like, let's figure something out, guys. But it's. It was just fascinating. She lives in America, she goes back and forth and she's really funny.

[Gary]

Is she super famous in Sweden?

[Paige Desorvo]

I think so. But she's also like, crazy talented. And when she was really young, she won like a Swedish song voice competition.

[Gary]

One of the number one things that blew my mind as a child was thinking that there were other famous people in the world, but we didn't, like, they were famous in their own country. And I'd be like, well, if you're not famous in America, then you're not actually famous, guys.

[Paige Desorvo]

That's why I'm so obsessed with my husband, because he's so famous in Ireland.

[Gary]

No. And now I'm like, obsessed with, like, being famous in a different country.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, like, that is so cool.

[Gary]

Like, if. Whenever anyone from Australia, like, not Canada, sorry, guys. But like, you're right in there with us, you know, like, you're. We're basically, we live together.

[Paige Desorvo]

Okay, Drake.

[Gary]

But like, if someone from Australia or like, if you get recognized, like when we're in Italy or something, I'm like, she's global. This is amazing.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's global.

[Gary]

So maybe she just hasn't translated yet into the American market.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah, but she's. Her songs kill it in America, so it's. It's a very interesting. Also, do you remember 2017? There was like Halsey, Alessia Cara. Was that her name?

[Gary]

Sure.

[Paige Desorvo]

There was all of these singers that.

[Gary]

Like, are like alternative type. Where is Halsey? Oh, I think she got married, had a baby and she.

[Paige Desorvo]

Halsey's like, on TikTok, basically being like, I don't want to be that famous anymore. Which I like, I respect totally. But what's interesting about the Zara documentaries, from the very beginning, like, as a kid, she was like, I want to be as famous as Beyonce. I want to be super big. She's like, so focused on it. I think that she part of her forgot to live other things, to have her own opinions and stuff. She just has always been like, I want to be a successful musician, but I love watching a woman who is just ambitious and it's not negative. Which brings me to the controversial take of the week, which is Dancing with Stars. Are you aware what happened?

[Gary]

I am abreast.

[Paige Desorvo]

Are you aware what happened?

[Gary]

I have watched every single episode.

[Paige Desorvo]

What the fuck happened? That fucked up Dancing with the Stars for her.

[Gary]

As someone who's watched all seasons of Mormon Housewives. The first season, they put Whitney in. Everyone's like, oh, we hate her. Then you realize, oh, she's the whole show. Okay? They wouldn't have a freaking star. She's a star.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's a star.

[Gary]

Okay? Basically, obviously, they all start getting more famous. So all the seasons then turn into, like, we're filming reality tv. It's very fourth wall. Cut to this season. She was previously like, I'm leaving the group. Now I want back in on the group because, well, I wanna film the show, and I have to film the show. And then the other girls found out that her deal with Hulu was great. I'll film Mom Talk if you get me an audition for Dancing with the Stars. And also, I want an audition for something scripted. Hulu said, great, because this is showbiz.

[Paige Desorvo]

And she also didn't ask for a raise. She said, I don't want my raise.

[Gary]

She puts people in couches to watch tv. That's all they care about.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Gary]

And the girls are like, are you only here because you want Dancing with the Stars?

[Paige Desorvo]

You're not here for the zipline.

[Gary]

Yeah. Basically, she was like, yeah, I am. And they were livid.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Okay.

[Gary]

And then she got in her car and she said, not only am I getting Dancing with the Stars, I'm gonna fucking win it. And I love that energy because she said that. Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

So that's why people turn.

[Gary]

So they're ma. And here's the other thing. Only women watch reality tv, and no one hates a woman more than another fucking woman. And so people wanted her to see her not succeed at it. Even though I do think she's one of the best dancers on there, I.

[Paige Desorvo]

Get very sensitive to, like, they were showing this scene where they showed all girls auditioning for Dancing with the Stars in a meeting. And then when her meeting came, it cut to all these confessionals of all the girls being like, oh, my God, Whitney. When her meeting was the same as everyone else's. So seeing.

[Gary]

And Taylor went on to get Bachelor.

[Paige Desorvo]

But it's. Again, it's the kind of person that people.

[Gary]

Well, sometimes I feel like people watch reality TV and obviously don't have it from our lens. But, like, people are, like, don't realize, okay, the Bachelorette is abc. And Hulu, Taylor got the Bachelorette because she's on Mom Talk. It's the same thing as Whitney Gohme going on Dancing with the Stars. Like, it's all one network.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. And also these people are making money for the network.

[Gary]

Right? The network wants them on other things.

[Paige Desorvo]

Because it's gonna make them money. Tv, Guess who made the most money? The tv. They're making the money. Yeah, but my.

[Gary]

Also, sorry, are you mad at Whitney for having vision?

[Paige Desorvo]

Wait, so are you mad at Whitney for being fucking honest? I love that she was like, this is what I want.

[Gary]

Also, sorry, are you mad at Whitney because she was given a plaque platform and she goes, how am I going to capitalize it 20 times harder?

[Paige Desorvo]

You agree with me.

[Gary]

I'm 100%.

[Paige Desorvo]

I would have been weirded out if she, like, lied to everyone and then, like, took someone else's spot.

[Gary]

Also, I. I wholeheartedly agree with her. And as someone who didn't even really like her the first season.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

I'm on her side. Oh, get your coins, honey.

[Paige Desorvo]

I've been in that situation too, where, like, sometimes you are so annoyed with people, you're just like, this is my truth. And then they're mad at you for.

[Gary]

It, and you're like, here's the other thing. People that are on reality tv, I would even say specifically Mormon wives, they had a vision for their lives. I don't think being on a reality show popped into their head, but they were given this opportunity and they thought, oh, my God, the actual dream I had for my life, this can help me get there. Her actual dream is to be a dancer, a performer.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's.

[Gary]

They're going to put her in Chicago. She's going to be on.

[Paige Desorvo]

She better be in Chicago.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Paige Desorvo]

Also, this is a girl who was born into a religion that basically says, you are like, a servant of your husband. Yeah.

[Gary]

So for her and her husband, actually, I think of the whole group is the most supportive of the husbands.

[Paige Desorvo]

So for her to get out of that, we should be applauding. Okay. I'm glad that my gut was right in this, because I watched every episode of Dancing with the Stars, and I'm sick to my stomach to the point that I might. But boycott it.

[Gary]

And who's left?

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm. I'm sick.

[Gary]

It's people that, like, aren't even close to as good as her.

[Paige Desorvo]

So this is kind of the tea. There's this guy Andy. There's always someone on the show who's, like, an older guy who's, like, really funny.

[Gary]

He's a comedian.

[Paige Desorvo]

He's not good, but he sucks. Oh, I know Andy, but Andy Richter.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

But it's funny because there's a woman who's exactly his age that no one treats like that because she's a woman. Because she's a woman. But everyone's like, Andy's so cute. And that way they're like, do better to the other. To the older woman. But anyway, Andy, everyone finally was like, we have to vote this guy off. He can't dance. We have to vote him off. So he gets voted off. But then everyone's like, we have to vote Whitney off because she can dance and it's not fair that she's such a good dancer. And Andy goes on TikTok and goes, guys, first you want to vote me off because I can't. Then you vote off some new Ken. What's going on here? Also, Alix Earle has dance training.

[Gary]

Yep.

[Paige Desorvo]

The other woman has dance training. The other one's a gymnast.

[Gary]

So, like, she's trained her body.

[Paige Desorvo]

She's a professional at moving her body. Dylan's hot. And yeah, those are like the people. And Robert Irwin, who's amazing, but like, it was supposed to be Robert Irwin, Whitney and Alex Earl are like the top three favorites. For Whitney to get voted off when.

[Gary]

She did before even the semifinals, it was.

[Paige Desorvo]

It was the semifinals, but the semis are like, a lot of people make the finals. It was so upsetting. And I do have to say, you guys, as someone who's done tv, when a camera's in your face, when you're emotional, it's very hard to hold it together.

[Gary]

Totally.

[Paige Desorvo]

And in that moment, I was like, we're gonna see her character a little bit. Yeah. The mic goes to her and she goes. I'm so grateful for this opportunity. I met so many incredible people. I love you so much. Thank you.

[Gary]

A queen.

[Paige Desorvo]

And I was like, you know what? I respect her because she got.

[Gary]

And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Because I know you also love the show. I would assume that the people watching Dancing with the Stars are of a certain age and certain gender. And that's probably over 55 a woman, and they probably have a couple sons.

[Paige Desorvo]

But I feel like that the normal watchers of Dancing with the Stars voted for her because they were like, she's an incredible dancer. I love her. But it was the tick tock people who watch Mormon Wives that were like.

[Gary]

We'Re getting her off, which are women.

[Paige Desorvo]

True.

[Gary]

Sad. It's actually so sad.

[Paige Desorvo]

I wish that we. The energy we took to take another woman down, we took to take a man down.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

No, literally any man.

[Gary]

And any man.

[Paige Desorvo]

I have a list. I have a list. Hannah. And people go, I don't like her personality. She's dancing all these other people who Are not as good dancers as her. Not working as hard as her. Not as fun to watch.

[Gary]

Not. Well, that's not as committed. She's extremely committed. She just has, like, presence on screen. I'm sorry. Like, not all celebrities are people who get famous. Do you actually want to watch them on screen?

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah.

[Gary]

She's on Mormon Wives because. I'm sorry, without her, it's not as good.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah. Like, I do also, I hate the gang up. I hate the bullying. I hate it on screen. I hate it off screen. So, like, when I see everyone decide, like, Whitney, when it's like, give me something that she did that wasn't edited on. On a TV show.

[Gary]

Here's the other thing. When one person is doing better than everyone else, everyone else is like, we gotta claw her down because sunflower syndrome. She makes us look bad that we didn't do anything. And it's like, okay, well, sorry, you have this. Had the same amount of time in the day as Beyonce, and you didn't get it done, honey. Like, I'm very upset.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm mad at people. I'm disappointed. And now we're mad and like, the bat. I used to watch the Bachelor a lot.

[Gary]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorvo]

And then one season, they go, we're gonna mix it up, and we're gonna have two bachelorettes, and we're gonna have the men decide which one is the Bachelor. I said, no. What, man?

[Gary]

Why are we giving the men so much power?

[Paige Desorvo]

And I said, I can't watch this anymore. I'm not watching two women fight it out for men to like them. I'll watch. I'll watch 20 women fight it out with one man, but not that. Boundaries. Boundaries. I have boundaries. So anyway, I'm very upset, but Whitney already posted that she's in New York, and, like, she's probably.

[Gary]

I think she's auditioning for Chicago, as she should.

[Paige Desorvo]

I selfishly just, like, loved watching her dance. And I love people. I love their dreams coming true.

[Gary]

Yeah, they wanted to. She wanted to be on it for so long.

[Paige Desorvo]

But the truth is, when the cream rises to the top and she's gonna keep going, and she's gonna do well. Final thing. Yeah. Back to me. Rosalia followed me on Instagram. She did. And I was gonna post about it, but then I was like, that's not cool. And then immediately I was like, what would a cool person post on Instagram? And then I was like, what does Rosalia think is cool that I should post on Instagram? So I am in a rut. I'm in a Creative rut. Overthinking everything.

[Gary]

Think about it. Because the last time we got into this situation, we apologize to Haley. It was like a whole thing.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, well, I think, like, if someone famous follows you, like, she's my, like, actually my style icon.

[Gary]

Wait, I had someone famous follow me and I haven't brought it up because I'm, like, so scared about it.

[Paige Desorvo]

Oh, no.

[Gary]

And, like, because I just, like, I got nervous, like, immediately. And I can't, like, look at it and I can't, like, follow that because I'm so scared. Channing Tatum. I'm like, are we getting married?

[Paige Desorvo]

Wait, no. Channing's a giggler.

[Gary]

I think he thinks things are funny.

[Paige Desorvo]

I think he's a giggle. No, Channing is a full giggler. I know people who know people who know he knows us.

[Gary]

Like, I got nervous.

[Paige Desorvo]

Well, he's my ex boyfriend.

[Gary]

Right?

[Paige Desorvo]

He's your ex, so he's probably. Anzi's probably, like, looking at your page to see my stuff.

[Gary]

That's what I thought.

[Paige Desorvo]

Yeah, that's typical Channing.

[Gary]

Wait, also, I went to the Bloomingdale, like, window reveal this year.

[Paige Desorvo]

How beautiful.

[Gary]

Wait, I can't believe I've never done that before.

[Paige Desorvo]

What about a ring? I bought a ring.

[Gary]

She was so phenomenal.

[Paige Desorvo]

Ray, we're talking about. It's funny, cuz Olivia Dean is blowing up, like, British jazz girl. And I was like, Ray's been. Yeah, working hard. So Ray now has the song. The jazz British girl.

[Gary]

Big Ray fan.

[Paige Desorvo]

Actually, the British girls now. Plus Lily Allen. No, they got a crush in it.

[Gary]

Now I'm like, do we get it?

[Paige Desorvo]

Should we change the British. Oh, my God. Wait.

[Gary]

Then I was with a girlfriend who. She's blonde. I was with a girlfriend who knows Victoria Beckham, and she had said something and she was like, oh, yeah, Victoria said that about you? And I go, sir, sorry, what? She's like, yeah, me and Victoria talked about you. And I was like, okay, wait, that's.

[Paige Desorvo]

Like when you have a crush and you're like, what do they say? What do they say? No, that's literally every word.

[Gary]

Like, what was her tone though? Like, combo? Or was she just like, oh, yeah, I know her. Or was she like, oh, my God, I love her. She's like, no, she thinks you're so adorable.

[Paige Desorvo]

I'm like, I am adorable. She's actually spot on. That's why I checked your website. It said she's adorable. Victoria Beckham. Wait, now when you go on stage, people go, she has a big podcast. Victoria Beckham called her Adorable. Literally.

[Gary]

That's how people should introduce me from now on. Oh, God. Anyway, it's Thanksgiving week. I love Thanksgiving. It's like my. It's my favorite.

[Paige Desorvo]

Let's start from the beginning. What do you like about. No, I love Thanksgiving too. I can't wait. And you know what we're thankful for? Giggling.

[Hannah]

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[Paige Desorvo]

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