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Hannah
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Hannah
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Hannah
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Paige
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Hannah
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Paige
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Paige
Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your WI fi. Manifest that we can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me.
Hannah
I had one literally so prepared.
Paige
Gravitas.
Hannah
Oh, I love that one. I don't know what I mean. What's up, my gravitas? Gigglers.
Paige
I. I feel like it's one of those words that's like.
Hannah
Does it mean free? No, that's. That's.
Paige
I feel like it's giving. Like, yeah.
Hannah
Millennials definitely put it on a pillow
Paige
their day, which was my high school slogan, I think.
Hannah
Something about being green, Something about c' est la vie. That's what it is.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
That's what it is. Oh, my God.
Paige
Millennials love carpe diem.
Hannah
Yes. Oh, my God. Put it on a poster.
Paige
I have a couple things I need to talk about. I haven't listed.
Hannah
Go off.
Paige
Where should I start? Where should I start? Let me start with something that happened last week because I forgot to talk about it when we were. Because we were talking about so much south by Southwest. Did you see the video of Kiki Palmer doing something at south by Southwest? I don't even know who she was interviewing. She was interviewing, like, a cast of something. And a guy came up to the po.
Hannah
To the stage, Walked up to the
Paige
stage, walked up to the stage, like, normal, in his 30s, good looking, dressed well. Had, like, a lanyard on, like he was supposed to be at. First of all, what is south by Southwest? No one knows.
Hannah
Also, if you have a lanyard, you could do anything.
Paige
Do you know that when Lucio has his. His camera, he goes, I can literally do anything. He has broken into so many things with me where they're like, you don't have another chicken. He's like, I have a camera. And he's like, I could do any. It's really crazy.
Hannah
But anyway, just make up a fake lanyard and walk anywhere.
Paige
So this man, like, has a lanyard. So he walks up to the stage and he. I'm not kidd. Wedding proposes to Kiki Palmer, and Kiki is, like, so professional and actually, like, too nice to this guy.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
The thing that pissed me off so badly was. Remember when this happened to Drew Barrymore?
Hannah
Yes. And I think she was, like, Had a bodyguard.
Paige
Yes. And the bodyguards ran out so quickly. No one ran out. No one. It took them, like, three minutes. And they were, like, so nice to this guy. Like, oh, can you move along? Like, you know, like, this is. No, tackle this man. What are you talking about? He's walking up and proposing to Kiki Palmer.
Hannah
Well, that happened once in one of our shows. Remember? Someone got up and just started walking towards the stage, and we both were.
Paige
I said, are you gonna shoot me?
Hannah
And no security guard.
Paige
No one said anything.
Hannah
But you wonder, like, what security is there for. It's definitely if someone starts, like, going towards the stage.
Paige
Well, there's no protocol in which the audience has to be on or near the stage.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
Unless whoever's on stage is, like, we're bringing someone up from the audience. So anyone moving toward the state, tackle
Hannah
that person that, like. But Kiki is famously, like, the nicest, coolest, most charismatic person. But she shouldn't have been in that position.
Paige
One time I met her at the Today show, and she looked at me and she said, you look like emerald. And then she walked away, and I was like. I said, I love your pixie.
Hannah
I did a video with her back in the day when I was at batches.
Paige
I love her.
Hannah
She's amazing.
Paige
People don't praise her enough that she's, like, talented. So multi. She can do anything.
Hannah
But she's one of those that, like, is so talented that I think people haven't caught up.
Paige
Like, like, guys, she was a singer. Hello.
Hannah
She was. She was in a spelling bee. She can spell.
Paige
So anyway, that annoyed me. I digress.
Hannah
But also, you have to. When the whole audience is there, you can't suddenly be like, bro, shut the fuck up. Like, you have to.
Paige
Well, even, like, the people that she was interviewing, they were, like, almost, like, joking. And I was like, no. This guy could whip a gun out.
Hannah
That's like, stalker shit. Leave Keke Palmer alone.
Paige
Speaking of mentally ill, that's a great segue.
Hannah
Okay. Which we rarely have.
Paige
And I rarely watch something that you've already talked about because I'm like, why watch it? My friend watched it and she told about it. I watched the Manosphere. It is so deeply mentally unwell. Like, I'm watching it and they're in. The guy. What's his Name whatever is interviewing these men. And I'm like, why isn't anyone breaking the news to them that they're mentally ill and they have to go on medicine and see a doctor or call their dad or one phone call to your dad might eliminate this. The one guy. Also the one guy that, like, lives in Miami and is. Has red hair.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
Get a boyfriend, babe. Babe. Just one man. Just see, you've obviously already hooked up with man. I actually don't even have to say that, but maybe date one, like, fully and you wouldn't have to terrorize everyone you meet. Here's the other thing. The other guy, when they bring in the mom and he's like, changes his whole rhetoric because the mom looks at him and is like, who raised rhetoric. And then the one guy whose wife came in and he got all scared and was like, please, please cut her part.
Hannah
Well, they're all fake con men.
Paige
They're all so dumb, too.
Hannah
Any guy that has to say they're manly is not manly. Any guy who has to say they're a nice guy is not a nice guy.
Paige
You're doing all of this to, like, make money and, like, but you don't. You're influencing an entire generation of men who are. Their brains are not formed and won't be till their 40s. And it's really scary. And Gen Z is so scary.
Hannah
And they're blaming the fact that they're failing on women. They're saying society is, like, created for the men to fail because of the women. I'm like, have you heard of the patriarchy? Read a thing is set up for you guys. Go do one job interview.
Paige
You guys set it up. 1700, you guys did that.
Hannah
You're complaining about the patriarchy that you're in charge of.
Paige
It's so. It was so freaky and so scary and weird. And it's also. I think they almost, like, envy women so much. They want to, like, emulate them and do things that we like. Like, this man was like, he's never going to get invited to Miami on a yacht. It's like, okay. Oh, yeah.
Hannah
They're so mad that girls get free drinks. He's like, she can go on a yacht with a hot guy.
Paige
It's like, do you want to go with the hot guy? Because we'll tag you in.
Hannah
Do you want to suck dick on a yacht?
Paige
Anytime I've ever been invited anywhere by a man, I've brough other friends. Like, you could come with me. It was one of the scariest documentaries I think I've ever watched.
Hannah
Actually, I'm in, like, a RuPaul K hole still.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Which is why I haven't any had any new documentary updates. But one of the many challenges or challenges they have is they. They brought in gay rodeo. Okay, now, gay rodeo,
Paige
somebody says this podcast isn't informative. Has literally never listened to a single episode, so.
Hannah
By the way, I cry every episode of RuPaul. Dr. Grace. Like, you think you're not going. Everyone's crying the whole time.
Paige
Okay.
Hannah
So a bunch of these, like, really manly rodeo men come in and you find out they're all gay. And they're all like, I was afraid to come out because rodeo is so masculine and homophobic.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
So, like, they were like, if I came out as gay, the rodeo wouldn't accept me. So they created their own. What are you? Rodeo's gay, by the way. Just a bunch of men riding each other.
Paige
So watch Yellowstone and shut off.
Hannah
Also, you're wearing heels with a pointed toe. Like, there's no need.
Paige
You've been accessorizing with belts and hats for years. We know you're gay, babe.
Hannah
You're wearing belts with decorations on them and showing them off.
Paige
I think the same with, like, the wwe. Like, oh, the prize is a belt. Like, okay.
Hannah
It's the only sport that rodeo where men were like, we need to wear jeans. I'm like, you don't need to wear jeans. And they're like, that's my aesthetic. They're like, no, we do no other sport. Do you wear jeans anyway, Wait, that's
Paige
so interesting to me.
Hannah
Like, other sports, like, polo doesn't wear jeans. Why are they in their, like, their favorite, like, Levi's?
Paige
No, they, like, really lean into, like, the aesthetic of their sport. Like, if you said to me, gun to my head. I talked about guns a lot.
Hannah
You. So much violence.
Paige
Yeah, I have so much violence. If you said gun to my head, what do they do in the rodeo? I would die.
Hannah
I've watched it once accidentally at a bar because I'll get into any sport. It's insane. They just get thrown off a bull that doesn't want them on their back. Like, Peter's not happy. Peter's like, clearly, they don't want you riding them. Honestly, you know what it is? It's just like, no consent. It's just men, like, with no consent, the bulls literally like, hey, can we not do this? We're doing this. And they're like, well, I'm going to kick you off if you try. And the guy's Like, I'm going to try. And he's like, well, I'm going to kick you off. That's the sport. But so these gay rodeo guys created this gay rodeo for guys who wanted to come out of the closet and be gay and do rodeo in peace. And then they were getting becoming drag queens. And it was so interesting because one of them was like, I used to do drag, but I felt like I lost myself and I lost my masculinity, but finding my femininity is helping me find my power. And he was crying and I was crying, but, like, it's just discovering different versions of themselves. But anyway, I really love RuPaul's Drag Race.
Paige
Thank you so much for that interlude, Hannah. We appreciate it on this very pleasant Monday morning.
Hannah
It is such a Monday today. It's such a.
Paige
The Monday's Monday because I socialized this weekend, which is like.
Hannah
So when Paige socializes without me, I sit back, I wait. I'm worried. I can feel nervous, wake up in the morning, have a 1am text of everything that went down. You made me laugh so hard. Can I say one of your quotes?
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
She goes, the girls are younger. The guys are exactly the same.
Paige
Okay, something's going on with Gen Z. And look, I feel like I talk about this a lot with, like. And I think it's partly because, like, I get. I'm getting older, but, like, I'm really sad that club culture is dying. Clubs were, like, such a big part of my life for so long, and thinking that, like, Gen Z doesn't go out and, like, drink and go to clubs. And, like, I feel bad for them because everything's recorded and you can't, like, be yourself.
Hannah
2015, we weren't Instagramming.
Paige
No, certainly not. I was living my best life at. On a table at a club somewhere, doing something.
Hannah
We know what you're doing.
Paige
I go to dinner. I go to dinner with one of my girlfriends, one of my guy friends, and they keep being like, okay, we're gonna go to this club, like, after dinner. And I'm like, okay. And every club's name is a lovely female's name.
Hannah
Really?
Paige
Delilah, Mary Lou Jolene. Like, all these different club names. It's just like, women's names trying to
Hannah
get the women to go there. Like, it makes. It feels. It sounds like a brunch. Delilah. That sounds like a brunch.
Paige
We pull up and I'm like, this is not. I know this club. And I, like, say the name of it years ago. And they're like, oh, yeah, I think
Hannah
it was that club 27 years ago in 1982.
Paige
So I walk in, I go, no, it's the same club. They didn't even change the formation. I'm like, bar's over here. DJs over here.
Hannah
You already know everyone who works there.
Paige
Now, Julia, you're like, steve, two things happen. Happened to me. One I witnessed, for the first time ever in my entire adult life, I witnessed. I'm at standing at one table, and there's. It's like a row of tables. I'm standing over here. There's like, maybe a couple. I'm like, two tables away. I watch two men sitting at a table. Three men sitting at a table alone. And I watch pretty young girls walk up to the table. And I see the men look at each other, like, who are these girls? Like, why do they want to. Like, we don't know them type thing, like, get away from our table. And in my head, I'm like, hey, guys, this is the whole point.
Hannah
The whole point of getting the table
Paige
is so that those two girls actually want to speak to you. Because if we weren't in this setting, they wouldn't. So it was, like, one of the weirdest. I was like, this is so weird. I have to go. When I'm walking in, I hear a girl behind me say, I recognize that voice anywhere. Like, I'm a giggle. And so I turn around and I start talking.
Hannah
Cause, you know, you were yapping.
Paige
I was yapping. And I start talking to this girl, and her friend walks up, and I look at her friend, and I go, I know you. How do I know you? And she goes, I dated your ex boyfriend after you. And I go, I've looked at your. It's like. Then it, like, all came flooding me.
Hannah
I was like, oh, I know everything about you.
Paige
I go, I've stalked your.
Hannah
There's a close grass. The closeness of that relationship, but also the. We've been spilled.
Paige
Well, we couldn't even spill it.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
Because we literally had, like, five.
Hannah
But you're trauma bonded.
Paige
We were so trauma bonded. I was like, you're stunning. You're gorgeous. Like, everything about you.
Hannah
Then you almost feel bad for a second that you let her date him. Like, I should have intervened.
Paige
I said, I wanted to DM you, but I didn't want to see that. Crazy. But, like, I needed you to know that he was the. He's the worst.
Hannah
Honestly, there's something so refreshing talking to another girl who dated the same guy to be like, he made me feel like a b. C and D. Is that because of me, or is that just a universal experience?
Paige
Actually, I talked to two people, two separate boyfriends, and they're like, wasn't that a nightmare? And I'm like, one I dated before, and then the other one I dated after this girl, and it was almost like the same thing. She was like, someone needs to tell her that, like, he will try and ruin her life. Okay, so those are the couple things on my docket.
Hannah
But also, I would say, like, yeah, we need to rank all the guys and leave notes on them. Dah, dah, dah. But I do think it's important to see how bad a dude can be so that you know what your worth is. And then you date up. Like, it's almost like you need that experience to know what you deserve.
Paige
And I'm the kind of girl that, like, if you DM'd me and was like, this guy's horrible. Like, I. Like, I'm reading it.
Hannah
Oh, yeah.
Paige
Like, I'm not immediately being like, okay, well, that's like. I'm like, well, why Give me.
Hannah
Oh, no. I'm. I said, who is this girl? And why'd you say that?
Paige
Right.
Hannah
And your side of the story. I'm fucking Judge Judy right now.
Paige
And the amount of girls that, like, I've reached out to. I reached out to one girl specifically, actually, that dated a guy that I dated prior to. And I reached out to her and I apologized to her because I said, I'm so sorry that I even had a moment that I would believe him over what a woman was saying. I was so blinded. I completely apologize. Everything he said was a lie. I'm sure you're lovely. I'm sure we'd be friends. She responded like, let's get like, yeah, like all. Like, all good. I know the type of, like, psychosis you were in because I dated him also. Don't worry about it, Diplomat.
Hannah
Yeah, when they're in it, they're in it, and you gotta get it. Let her get through that. Yeah, you can't convince her. Like, you're like, he's in jail. And she's like. And he calls me every day. So go yourself.
Paige
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Hannah
As you guys know, I'm not up on Mormon Wives, which is the one show that seems to be every. I can't open my news feed without seeing craziness.
Paige
I just want to apologize to the gigglers because we had recorded the episode before. Before last week, before all of this.
Hannah
Did we talk about it?
Paige
No. All of this, like, happened. We had already recorded.
Hannah
We weren't like, go watch the bathroom.
Paige
No. So I was actually so mad this week, like, everything was happening because I was like, I have so much to say about this.
Hannah
I was literally texting you, like, I can't wait to hear your take.
Paige
My top line is, if you're mad at Taylor, Taylor Frankie Paul, which I like, her name is like so intense. If you're mad at her, I so envy you because that means you've never dated a person like Dakota. Dakota truly is Tell me lies, Steven, in real life. Is she toxic too? Absolutely. There were a lot of people that were mad that, like in Mormon Wives, you saw her sleep with Dakota before she left to go do the Bachelorette and it's like, okay, well, yeah, because she's a reality TV star and you're watching her reality show. You think like, the other Bachelor and Bachelorettes weren't fucking before they went on TV or immediately after. Like, that's insane.
Hannah
She's thinking clearly in a talks.
Paige
People like, really sometimes don't. Can't like see through reality tv. And it really confuses also, people judge
Hannah
reality TV harsher than they judge their own friends.
Paige
I think the Bachelorette season being pulled from the air is one of the craziest things ever.
Hannah
Well, I would like to say if you're gonna pull the Bachelorette season from the air, you're gonna have to pull the whole NFL season.
Paige
You're gonna have to pull the NBA, the NFL, mlb, Golf. You probably get a lot of people out of the government.
Hannah
The entire government. Government.
Paige
But yet this 26 year old Mormon housewife, her whole season is getting pulled and she might get sued. Like, please.
Hannah
On information that they.
Paige
That you already knew. You hired her knowing this information. Now the video. Did you watch the video?
Hannah
I have to say, I don't recommend people watch the video. I watched it innocently, just like for informative purposes. Because I have a podcast.
Paige
Correct.
Hannah
It was very, very upsetting.
Paige
Very upsetting.
Hannah
Don't watch it.
Paige
There's a child. You can hear the daughter, like, now, Taylor, Frankie Paul. That's fucked up. Fighting with him in front of your children. Women are just better than men. We have to be better than them. And so, like, you should have gone into a different room and, like, duked it out or whatever.
Hannah
We witnessed a person at their lowest low.
Paige
I've watched so many men on reality TV do some of the most horrible things to people, physical, mental, and get so re. You're. I've watched people be like, I'm a drug addict. And then be like, you're the star of the show.
Hannah
I've watched people get in physical altercations that if I had gotten into.
Paige
Yeah, you fired.
Hannah
I'd be in jail.
Paige
You would have been fired.
Hannah
The Bachelorette firing Frankie Taylor. Frank Paul. Frankie Paul Taylor. It's crazy because it's like, oh, like you've never had a season where everyone hated the woman.
Paige
Well, then there were, like, rumors that ABC was like, oh, well, they thought it was going to be a bad season, so they rather just, like, take the.
Hannah
There's never a bad season, people. You're always going to make it good. That's what they're professionals as, making sure there's drama even when there isn't, obviously.
Paige
I watched the entire season of Mormon.
Hannah
Did they cut her out of it?
Paige
No, no, that was, like, filmed. This was aired. All of the husbands. Now, I think Secret Lives of Mormon Wives should be studied in colleges and, like, during, like, feminist classes because it's such a great example of a cult. Yeah, that. And all the men were like, hey, marry us at 22. You're gonna stay home. You're gonna have a bunch of kids. You're gonna keep the house. You're not gonna do anything that you've ever dreamt of doing, but it's gonna be good because we're gonna be married and I'm gonna take care of you. All of the sudden, all their wives got famous and rich, and they said, hey, remember that idea you had a couple years ago where I was gonna stay home and take the. Take care of the kids? Now you have to do it. They're all revolting, freaking out. They're freaking.
Hannah
Well, because they all have seven children.
Paige
Literally. One of the husbands sat there and was like, well, I didn't go to med school. Why go. Go do it then. What are you talking. Yeah, because your wife makes so much money now that you're chilling, and you're gonna sit here and. And say to her, like, you did a video with another guy at Disney World Dancing. Oh, to promote the dancing show she's on. Like, Jesse's husband literally came on and was like, our wives don't monopolize the Internet. Like, I'm the leader of dad talk. No one wants you on our tv.
Hannah
Yeah, I heard they were like dead talks. Funnier. Like they actually can't comprehend that people want to watch their wives and not them. They can't comprehend that their wives so inferior, better at something than they are. Where instead, I mean, I would argue what it looks like from the outside. At least Whitney's husband is the best one, is supporting her, proud of her. And I would talk, this is literal jealousy. Because it's like, even in like a friendship, I could be jealous of my friend when something good happens. Or I could go, that's my best friend and I'm so fucking proud that I'm her best.
Paige
If you're not like that, though, what the fudge is the point?
Hannah
Why are you in a relationship with someone your biggest hater is. Is in your bed?
Paige
I've dated my biggest hater. He was in my bed.
Hannah
And it's fan.
Paige
And it's truly one of you never go to sleep, like, peaceful. It's true. Because they're trolls, anxious. Because you're like, not only do you like, low key hate me, you also low key want to be me. And that's really terrifying because you're like
Hannah
the men coming together. It's so like opposition to the women. It's literally like us versus you guys. And I'm like, you've lost the plot. Marriage is about love and teamwork. And like, some years someone else picks up this. Some years happens. Like, it's about two people who are capable of supporting each other through thick and thin.
Paige
There's no star. I've watched so many men and I've watched so many women on television and experienced it. The women can handle the mental load more. They seem to not get as caught up in, this is my real life. Like, they can separate. This is television and this isn't real. The men can't. I've truly watched so many men on reality TV and been like, okay, but that's not your. That's not who you really are. This is who you pretend to be on tv. And there's gonna come a certain time where the lines are blurred and you're going to go into a psychosis because who are you? I don't think you know who you are. And that's really unhealthy. I think the longer you stay on reality tv, the more your mental health and not from hate, like, take out, like, people that hate you. It's not even that. It's the mental health of filming a television show where you are truly pretending to be somebody that you're not. You're going to come for Taylor. Taylor. Frankie. Paul, let me keep my foot on this man's neck. But you're going to sit, tell Colton that he can be on the number one television show. He was accused and convicted. I admitted it. But we're pulling the Bachelorette. Please.
Hannah
And Colton stays. Catching straight.
Paige
Yeah. I'll never let that go. And when you have a stalker, I'm not kidding. It's.
Hannah
You feel like your everyday.
Paige
You feel so violated. Just like being alive because you're like this person is. It's really scary.
Hannah
The Traders too, after they filmed, like, you're in this crazy, like, psychosis. So you'll literally be hanging out with someone and be like, are you a traitor? And you're like, oh, wait, I'm not in that mindset. So when people do reality TV for like 10 years, they start believing.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Especially when some people are edited to be better than they are.
Paige
Totally.
Hannah
So if you on TV are edited to be this great husband or this charming, nice guy with that, then the person actually in their real life believes that's who they are. Yeah. And that's when illness happens and when
Paige
you have to tell a man, hey, you're not who you think you are.
Hannah
Well, it's crazy to have to tell a man, you're not who everyone here thinks you are.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
You're not who the entire public thinks you are. My TikTok is so savage. It said, no one will villainize you more than a person who realizes that you have clocked who they really are.
Paige
100%. A hundred percent.
Hannah
Men, I think, can just see how you look at them.
Paige
Yeah, Men know when I don't fuck with them.
Hannah
Men, I mean, men know when I don't fuck with them. It's also like, I'm just disappointed.
Paige
I've had.
Hannah
I'm not charmed.
Paige
There's so many men that I've like, never been mean to, never had words with. My demeanor is, I don't fuck with you and like, you do nothing for me. And I've had them go completely off on me, like. And I'm like, I haven't even said anything. Like, I trigger my presence and like me being alive triggers you so much. I saw a thing that was like, if marriage was good for women, they would have taken it away from us a long time ago. And that's so true. I was at the gym the other day. Literally, I'm the only person in there there's one other guy.
Hannah
Humble brag.
Paige
Sorry. Zoom. 12, 3:30. I'm. I literally. I have my headphones in. I turn off my music because I'm like, I need to be able to hear if this guy is gonna come up behind me because he had his headphones on and he kept just repeating things. I just got freaked out and I was like, now I can't even listen to anything because I have to be aware. And I literally kept turning my head casually to see, like, where he was because I'm like, in my head, I'm like, what if he takes a weight and just hits me in the back? My mom literally came into my brain. I was like, he's gonna hit me in the back of my head. He's gonna pull me out.
Hannah
And this is why we don't work out.
Paige
Yeah. Like, this is why I don't go to the gym.
Hannah
I do have to do a shout out. This is our first ever women in STEM of the week.
Paige
Okay.
Hannah
There's a girl on TikTok who to keep her burrito closed.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
She used her hair tie. And geniuses are all around us.
Paige
You know, that's funny, because I saw a TikTok the other day, and it was a girl being like, why don't we use more of our pretty stuff in our everyday lives? And it was her using her hair clip to, like, curl up her, like. No, her, like, charging wires. And she just, like, clipped it with her hair clip. And I was like, cute. And then she, like, rolled up a bag of chips and she used, like, a barrette. And I was, like, adorable. I was like, I'm gonna start using all my pretty things that I like for other purposes.
Hannah
Well, you have so many little trinkets.
Paige
I love a trink. I love stuff.
Hannah
You love stuff.
Paige
I love my stuff.
Hannah
See, I hate stuff.
Paige
I love stuff.
Hannah
I feel weighed down by stuff. Like, every three months, I need to, like, get rid of all my stuff. Like, all of it.
Paige
See, I just love getting new stuff and putting it with my old stuff. And I love organizing my stuff.
Hannah
That's the thing. I don't like to organize my stuff.
Paige
Makeup stuff. With my makeup stuff and my hair stuff.
Hannah
Someone asked me, like, when's the last time you washed your brushes? I was like, when I lose them, I get a new brush. Like, I've never washed a brush. I make a brush.
Paige
Wait, someone's. I think we should do it. Somebody. I don't know if she DM'd me or commented something I can't remember. I Think she might have DM'd me, but she was like, I think you and Hannah should switch routines for one week, like your skin and hair care.
Hannah
And just see when I tell you guys I'm not capable. Like, I've seen the military operation that is your skincare hair.
Paige
I'd have a week off.
Hannah
I like the way it's called.
Paige
You just lying down in the shower and that's it.
Hannah
And then when it's time to go to sleep, like fight with yourself about can you brush your teeth or not? Cuz you're so tired, can.
Paige
I Woke up at 6am today and I go, maybe I'll do a face mask. Did a face mask laid on the couch, put castor oil and a heating pad on my stomach as I got my period. Maybe that's why I'm so fired up today. Yep, thanks. I got it yesterday.
Hannah
So a red moon.
Paige
Yeah. Everyone watch the out.
Hannah
You're like, we're totally off.
Paige
Are we?
Hannah
Well, not synced. What the hell?
Paige
You want to know what it is? I think my body is so sensitive that when I date the wrong person, my body truly will reject it. So like, I legit didn't get my period for like two years. I'm not kidding. It's like it was actually really scaring me at one point. And I've never been more regular. I've never. Since high school, I have not been regular. Wow. I am almost to the day. Like I had my period legitimately. Exactly. And 28 days ago.
Hannah
Yes. We're into psychics. We're into astrology. I was about to say we're not woo woo. But like, I guess we kind of are. But sometimes, like, you're thinking about like, what's within, like, am I eating the wrong thing? Or whatever. Look outside of you. Look at your environment. Is there a hater in your bed?
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Paige
Like, you could go to the gym five days a week. You could eat all the fucking protein
Hannah
they tell you to Work smarter, not harder.
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Hannah
What things about Dakota is a red flag to you that you've seen?
Paige
Well, he lies so well. He's so good at. Well, one, he's a good looking guy. So he's already. He's. Yeah, I would say he's subjectively a good looking guy. He's got sharp. He's got like piercing blue eyes. He's got brown hair. Like. Like he's got good facial features. I don't know how tall he is.
Hannah
But the truth is, is let me be honest, the ugliest guys can manipulate you. Like, it doesn't matter if they're good looking or not.
Paige
In the public. Like, the public. Yeah, if you're okay or not is based on looks.
Hannah
If you have a decent jawline.
Paige
He lies so impeccably. Well, it's terrifying. He's so extremely manipulative to everyone around him that you can see, see him almost be excited that people are believing him. Like, he. There was a scene where he's sitting with her family and I'm like, oh, my God. He's giddy because he just realized they believe him. And she beats herself down so much because they're like, the worst thing you
Hannah
could ever do is have like a
Paige
baby with two men. Like, that is one of the most deplorable, disgusting things I think I've ever heard in my life. That, like, if a woman has a baby with more than one man, you're like, you should be crucified. Like, shut up.
Hannah
I think you should get some range. Let's mix it up the DNA a little bit.
Paige
You can have a little whimsy. Yeah.
Hannah
You can just risk it all with one guy.
Paige
I think this show is such a good example for, like, women in their 20s to not get married before 25.
Hannah
Yeah, we have to. I keep forgetting that they're Mormons and like.
Paige
Well, it's just a good thing where good example of like, the way they tell you to live is only okay if it's the man.
Hannah
Well, isn't their religion very, like, the man is the head of the household where if I hear the words head
Paige
of the household, one of their husbands did a confessional and was like, look, you know, our way of life is like, that I'm in charge, but I'm not gonna do that because I'm a nice guy. I'm like, shut the up.
Hannah
The fact okay. That comes.
Paige
Your wife gets you on our allowance.
Hannah
That line. First of all, you're not a nice guy. If you have to say you're a nice guy, I'll say it a bazillion times. Also, if you disagree with the way your guys's lifestyle is and your religion, then get out.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
If you're still supporting it, you support it. But. Yeah. That they're breeders. The girls are supposed to be breeders. So the fact that they're doing other things. All the men are going cuckoo bananas. Yeah.
Paige
Because they're not making the men's life lives easier, but they are.
Hannah
They're bringing in tons of money for that.
Paige
Maura Higgins did an interview one time, and she was talking about how she dated a guy, and he said to her, like, I make your life easier. And she said, really?
Hannah
How?
Paige
And he said to her, why carry your bags? She was like, oh, my God, how did I live 33 years without you carrying my bag? Like, they're so delusional.
Hannah
It does remind me. When I was in my early 20s, this guy was, like, obsessed with me. When I was in my darkest point, like, I was debating becoming a yoga instructor, I was, like, very lost. I was scared. I didn't have a purpose. I was pretty depressed, and I was confused, and he was, like, perfect. As I started figuring out what I wanted to do for a living and get career momentum, suddenly there's issues. Yeah. And I'm like. In my head, I'm like, oh, people like me more when I'm successful.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Little did I know that he was actually resenting me more. Yeah. And I wasn't. Successful is a strong word. Like, I got a job, and I was, like, passionate about it and excelling at it. And it's. It's just ironic, but thank God he acted that way so I could get him out.
Paige
Even when we started Giggly Squad, I was, like, seeing someone who was like, are you really gonna do this? Like, a little podcast? And I was like, oh, yeah, babe. Just wait for it.
Hannah
Every now and then, Instagram recommends threads to me, which is a scary place.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Because some people are, like, just saying all their inner thoughts, which are mostly not healthy, but occasionally it's, like, informative. And one girl was talking about how many girls are in their 30s, where early 30s or mid-30s, where their career isn't where they want it to be yet, but they're feeling pressure to have a kid.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
And some of them haven't met a person that they want to settle down with to have a kid.
Paige
Here's the other thing. You're told, like, have a kid. Have a kid, get married, be a wife. And then you do it. And then all of society is, like, ill. We hate you. So it's like, you literally just tricked us into doing something, and then you're going to treat us worth worse. Like, if someone was like, if you have a baby and you get married, like, people let you sit down on the subway and they treat you with, like, the utmost respect, okay, cool, then I'll do it. They literally treat us worse, though. They're like, why are you working?
Hannah
They. You have a kid, they force you to have the kid. Even if you're like, I can't have this kid.
Paige
Remember when Whitney went and did Chicago? They were like, but you have three kids. It's like, okay. And there's another parent in the home also.
Hannah
Isn't it so cool that those kids are able to see their mom living her dream? Like, how inspirational.
Paige
And, like, showing up on Broadway and being like, that's my mom.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
Yeah, obviously.
Hannah
Obviously.
Paige
God, are we just the only ones who freaking get it? Like, I can't.
Hannah
On a lighter note, sure. I saw a tweet that said, I really thought hammerhead sharks would be more relevant. When we were growing up, they had some, like, media momentum. They were, like, doing well. Haven't heard about them. Like, they're out of the limelight completely. Did they just decide to, like, go to a farm somewhere? Like, they used to be at every
Paige
event on the car was, like, really good. Early 2000. Well, think about Shark Week.
Hannah
Shark Week.
Paige
Shark Week had, like, really good PR when it first came out.
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Hannah
People were, like, canceling plans for Shark Week Week.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Because it was cable.
Paige
That's what it was. We didn't have stream, and streaming hasn't
Hannah
figured out a way to take Shark Week over.
Paige
I think, like, I'm good.
Hannah
There is a good documentary about how
Paige
you can, like, let's just do more AI Dinosaurs. Yeah, sure, guys. That's exactly how it went down. Like, I mean, what was that on Netflix?
Hannah
We're also at a point where, like, now the world is so crazy that when I see something, I go, that's AI and it's not like I'm reverse AI ing myself. I'll be like, I'm not gonna send that to anyone. That's AI now all I do is
Paige
not AI Is watch parrots get haircut.
Hannah
That's because I'm like, is it AI who knows?
Paige
Who knows?
Hannah
Wait, is that when they comb it back?
Paige
Yeah. It looks so satisfying.
Hannah
You like that? Because he looks Italian.
Paige
I love a bob on any. I'm like, yeah, all parrots should have a bob. Why wouldn't they? Daphne. Now ship it. Ships international Daphne.
Hannah
Ship it to Ken. Nada.
Paige
But I want to shout out the Canadian girls because they're really the number one girls that were like, like, please start shipping internationally. And so I was like, we gotta work on this specifically for the Canadians so you can buy Daphne now.
Hannah
Did you have to call to get it to Canada? Like, how does that work, Katy Perry?
Paige
I was like, katie, can you, like, talk to that guy and see if, like, I could just, like, send some jammies? She's like, yeah, sure.
Hannah
But I was. It reminded me, I was thinking about how hard ice skating is.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Can you ice skateboard? Are you holding the rink on the side?
Paige
Can I ice skate? I can, but I can't. I'm not, like, putting the skates on and just, like, getting out there. Like, I need, like, 10 minutes to, like, regain my. My bearings, get the vibe, like. But I took ice skating lessons as a child at some point. Oh.
Hannah
And also all the time, everything.
Paige
I was like, kim.
Hannah
Well, it was like, she wanted to see you in a little, like, oh,
Paige
she loved an outfit like, that is so cute. Now she's a ballerina. I'm like, how about we sit on the couch?
Hannah
I did want to let people know, though, that my mom was telling me a story. And I realized I've been a delusional icon since day one. I've never ice skated before. And I was like, eight years old. And I get to the rink in Brooklyn. There's rink, and I see all the big teenage girls in the middle.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
Doing jumps.
Paige
Yeah. And you're like.
Hannah
So I look at my dad and I'm like, I want to go over there. Yeah. And he looked at me and he was like, you don't know how to ice skate. When you learn, you can go over there. And I go, I'm not skating with these fucking losers. Put me in the middle and let me go.
Paige
Is my hidden talent or it's not, dad. Let's see.
Hannah
He was like, you're gonna hurt yourself. You're like, actually, like, you'll get tackle. Like, you're not. They don't let. Like, you can't go.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
And I was like, I'm not fucking ice skating unless I'm doing flips. And he was like, this isn't gonna. I fought with my dad for, like, 30 minutes. I'm like, I'm not. I refuse to learn the basics. And I just said, I'm a champion. I'm going to the Olympics. That was so me. And then I ended up not doing it because I was like, I'm not playing this game.
Paige
It's interesting that you can probably see who your kids are going to become if you really just, like, take a minute.
Hannah
And in that moment, he probably was like, this girl's fucking crazy. But if you do that with the right thing, like me being like, oh, I'm just going to do stand up in front of 500 people. Yeah, that's mental illness. That's delusion. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. And I found my nut. And then you go, so guys, be delusional if you forgot.
Paige
That's so funny you say that because my parents were, like, looking through old pictures the other day. They were like, cleaning. I think they were like, cleaning out our basement or something. I don't know.
Hannah
The best. That literally make my day. I love a clean out photo session.
Paige
And I like, died for baby dolls. Like, I was a mother. Like, I didn't play with anything else but a baby.
Hannah
You were working three jobs, jobs to feed these children.
Paige
Like, Barbies. Get out of my face. Like, any figurines. I was like, you're stupid. Like, Legos are dumb.
Hannah
You're actually terrified of babies now. But I digress.
Paige
Catch me in my play kitchen whipping up a meal, like, everything then I. I thought I wanted.
Hannah
You're like, the water's boiling.
Paige
But this is how I was the same. My mom used to say that if my dad came into my playroom and if, like, I was holding my baby dolls, if you. He kissed my. Because my mom would say that, like, I used to be that she'd be like, okay, kiss your baby. Like, that's your baby. And I would, like, kiss my baby. And then if my dad kissed my baby, I would look at my dad and be like, why would you do that? I would get so mad. I'd be like, I'm your baby.
Hannah
This is.
Paige
You don't know this doll.
Hannah
And that is you in a relationship.
Paige
I'm like, why would you text? You don't know.
Hannah
Did you look at that girl across the street?
Paige
No, I'm like, from a young age,
Hannah
you are who you are.
Paige
Yeah. From a young age, I knew I wanted to beat men. I knew that they were up to no guy.
Hannah
Speaking of beating men, this is why I'm crazy. I remember from a young age, my dad, like, always believed in me was like so proud of me, which, like, brought its own issues. But once, like, some kid was like, said he was fast and my dad goes race her. He would make me race other boys in the school. Like, that's. And at the time, that was just my life, that was my normal. So I'd be like racing another boy and I'd win. And then he'd be like, yeah, my daughter just kicked your boy's ass.
Paige
But that's so funny.
Hannah
Like, he had me racing random kids.
Paige
Yeah, he's like taking bets on this.
Hannah
He's like 24, 24 and 1. 24, 35, 35, 30. I don't talk about this because I like to protect him. But my brother's actually like a star. He just didn't want the limelight. But he was always like the cute one, the charming one. And I was like, hi, guys. Yeah, so this is so Brooklyn. But we were like playing in the yard and like a Gap model Scout. Yeah. Was like looking for cute kids. You know how this is. He would have been picked immediately. They see my brother who's like blue eyed, gorgeous, like, not too hyper.
Paige
That's what it was. It was the kids that knew how to shut the fuck up is who got picked.
Hannah
That makes me feel better. My mom is talking to my dad like, oh, Daniel got picked. And I'm like, did I get picked?
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
She couldn't in her heart of hearts tell me I didn't get picked. So she lied to me, said I got picked. They let me wait in the line for photos. How sad is that? And then I came up and I was like, wake up, guys. And they were like, get your daughter.
Paige
But that. Okay, but what a good example of like, like amazing parenting on your mom. Mom's part. Like, you didn't know.
Hannah
I didn't know what I didn't know.
Paige
Yeah, you didn't know that you weren't picked because she literally had to be
Hannah
like, hey, casting director, can my ugly daughter just like stand in the line? And like, she won't know.
Paige
Yeah.
Hannah
And I was clearly chatty Kathy talking to everyone, causing disruption. And my brother, and my brother, he didn't want the stardom, but everyone wanted him. Yeah. And I was just in the background racing random people.
Paige
I never knew rejection either. Like when I did that at model, like, I. My mom never told me if I didn't get something, she'd be like, they canceled it.
Hannah
Like, she goes modeling, she's over.
Paige
Yeah. She'd be like, you get to go to your girl scout meeting because they canceled it. And I'd be, like, amazing. Like, I didn't know.
Hannah
Well, it's good for kids to have adversity, but it's bad for them to just, like, get their confidence hurt for, like, a stupid reason. Like an agent liking a blonde better than you.
Paige
Here's the other thing. This just made me think of it. With the Taylor Frankie Paul thing, people are, like, so going against her, and rightfully so, because they're like, there was a child in the video. So the adult that leaked the video also has a child with this woman. So him leaking that video. He didn't. Doesn't give a. What damage is done to that little girl now that that video is out for the rest of her life.
Hannah
And I hope that they can heal, and I hope that the kid can be okay.
Paige
I think they should air the Bachelorette.
Hannah
Yeah.
Paige
I mean, I don't get why they wouldn't.
Hannah
Well, also, when they started this, it was because she went on tick tock and was telling everyone that all her friends are each other's husbands. Like, let's just remember where it started. It wasn't her being, like, she's always been doing things that are.
Paige
The first episode of the entire show is her getting arrested, like, for domestic violence.
Hannah
People have showed me, like, there's been so many physical altercations on reality TV that everyone just kind of was like, that's iconic. Like, Ron, Ronnie, and Sammy would beat the out of each other.
Paige
There's so many physical altercations that also happen.
Hannah
That vanderpump. There's been.
Paige
Oh, yeah, because they're like, this can air. But like, that happened.
Hannah
You just see people. People's reactions.
Paige
Yeah, but a woman will get more in trouble for something she sees said than a man will for something he did.
Hannah
And a woman can say the same thing that a man said and be more trouble.
Paige
Are you kidding? 100%.
Hannah
Verbatim.
Paige
Verbatim.
Hannah
Verbatim. A lot of, like, nice boyfriends have been coming to my shows lately.
Paige
That's nice.
Hannah
Like, they want to be made fun of. Yeah, they are. They are getting tickets for the girls. They're coming together. Like, there's. Gigglers have been finding good partners, I believe. I mean, giggly squad shows. Remember, like, whenever we pick on a guy, we're always like, yeah.
Paige
We're like, actually, this one was boring because you're so nice.
Hannah
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Paige
Well, anyway, I ordered Hannah's Duncan today.
Hannah
You did? Why'd you get me a juicy peach?
Paige
Because.
Hannah
Because that's your nickname.
Paige
For me. Okay, Hannah, literally, I saw Juicy Peach and I was like, that's Hannah. And then I saw Glam Berry and I was like, that's me.
Hannah
That's your aura. That's our auras. You guys, thank you for giggling with us. I'm in Ohio all weekend, so check that and Salt Lake City. So if any Mormons. Thank you, Dunkin, for sponsoring this episode and keeping us hydrated. Bye.
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Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: March 24, 2026
In this episode, Hannah and Paige bring their signature wit and banter to a wide range of topics, from wild pop culture moments and reality show deep dives to generational differences in club culture, gay rodeos, toxic relationships, and how societal expectations weigh on women. They candidly share personal stories, highlight absurdities of modern life, and sprinkle in moments of heartfelt vulnerability—all while keeping listeners giggling.
Carpe Diem Slogan:
Paige (02:19): “Millennials love carpe diem.”
On Security & Safety:
Paige (03:53): “No one ran out. No one. Tackle this man!”
Hannah (04:12): “I said, are you gonna shoot me?”
‘Manosphere’ Critique:
Paige (06:21): “Get a boyfriend, babe...maybe date one fully and you wouldn’t have to terrorize everyone you meet.”
Hannah (07:16): “You’re complaining about the patriarchy that you’re in charge of.”
Rodeo Observations:
Hannah (09:18): “Rodeo’s gay, by the way. Just a bunch of men riding each other.”
On Club Culture:
Paige (11:48): “The girls are younger. The guys are exactly the same.”
Paige (14:08): “The whole point of getting the table is so that those two girls actually want to speak to you.”
Trauma Bonding over Exes:
Paige (15:09): “We were so trauma bonded. I was like, you’re stunning. You’re gorgeous...”
Hannah (15:13): “You almost feel bad for a second that you let her date him.”
Reality TV and Double Standards:
Paige (24:09): “You’re gonna have to pull the NBA, the NFL, MLB...The entire government.”
Hannah (28:13, paraphrased): Colton stays, Frankie goes.
Delusional Aspirations:
Hannah (46:48): “Be delusional if you forgot.”
For more giggles, check out upcoming tour dates in Ohio and Salt Lake City—and remember: always carpe the damn diem.