Giggling about girl's gays, male comics, and method acting

Summary

Giggly Squad: “Giggling about girls’ gays, male comics, and method acting”

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Release Date: December 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives headfirst into chaotic giggly energy as Hannah and Paige—joined for much of the show by regular sidekick Chris—bounce across everything from group chat location-sharing stress (“normalize not having your spouse as your emergency contact!”) to the differences between “girls’ gays” and “gays’ gays”, the male loneliness epidemic, method acting culture, why athletes are hot, and how Taylor Swift deserves philosopher status.

With their signature blend of humor, personal oversharing, pop culture references, and feminist candor, the Giggly Squad explores the social norms around relationships, safety, gendered expectations, and queerness—sprinkling real talk, relatable venting, TV recs, and the kind of inside jokes only besties can produce.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Location Sharing & Emergency Contacts

• Hannah, Paige, and Chris dive into the social phenomenon and existential anxiety of "location-sharing"—using apps to keep tabs on friends or spouses. Hannah describes the mini-panic when someone doesn’t reply (“I went full mom mode. She's lying in the street unconscious. Someone needs to find Grace.” [02:14])
• Debate over who should be one's emergency contact:
  • Hannah says she put her mom as emergency contact instead of her husband, leading to marital friction.
    • “Did you just put your mom? … She’s the only adult I know!” (Hannah, [03:37])
    • “Normalize not having your spouse be your emergency contact.” (Chris, [03:59])
  • They muse about when it’s “normal” to hand off that responsibility.
• Underlying feminist critique:
  • Hannah: “My husband is not taking care of me. That’s disgusting and not feminist.” [04:07]

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2. Double Standards Around Marriage and Gender

• Marriage seen as a downgrade for women, an upgrade for men:
  • “When gay people get married, it’s a movement. When I get married, I’m embarrassing.” (Hannah, [05:13])
  • “When men get married, they’re like, oh, he finally settled down… When we do it, it’s like your life expectancy is going to go down.” (Chris, [05:35])

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3. Safety, Social Media, and Gendered Roles

• Analysis of a viral TikTok: Woman gets mugged, male companion flees while a stranger helps.
  • “Talk about never being able to get wet again around him.” (Hannah, [07:19])
  • “If I did have a gay best friend with me, I feel like gay guys are the first to be like, let me beat his ass.” (Hannah, [07:26])
• The “benefits” of being with gay male friends in public; playfully riffing on emotional support, perceived safety, and gender expectations.

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4. Men, Chivalry, and Generational Attitudes

• Hannah tells a story of a man on a flight helping her with bags (a rare act!):
  • “When I tell you I fly eight times a week. First time this has happened this year.” (Hannah, [08:33])
• The group jokes about men under 25 being oblivious to acts of chivalry, suggesting only “dad-aged” men are reliable for help, but with a catch:
  • “Past 45, they’re helping more. But also past 50, they can’t.” (Chris & Hannah, [09:28])

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5. Men Don’t Apologize

• Complaints about the rarity of “sorry” from male drivers/service workers.
  • “Men. I’ll have Uber drivers…oversleep 40 minutes late. Doesn’t say sorry.” (Hannah, [10:55])
  • Chris: “They don’t say sorry, and they don’t use exclamation points in emails.” [10:59]

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6. Coping Mechanisms: Mean Emails, PMS, and Tech

• Rage-writing as therapy:
  • Paige writes angry texts/emails but sends them to Hannah instead of the intended recipient, then deletes them.
    • “It’s a form of journaling.” (Hannah, [12:26])
    • “Sometimes I’ll take certain paragraphs and I’ll throw it in ChatGPT and I’ll be like, make that snarkier.” (Chris, [12:28])
• Open discussion on PMS, migraines, and the physical/mental toll, with laughs and mutual understanding.
• Bytes on using Oura rings and “reading” energy patterns as a rationale for not working out.
  • “I haven’t worked out in a month. And Des is like, you should move your body… I go, my Oura ring says to rest.” (Hannah, [15:30])

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7. Girls’ Gays vs. Gays’ Gays: LGBTQ+ Culture in Friendships

• Debating pop-culture’s “girls’ gays” (“the gays who love and support women” vs. “gays’ gays” who are anti-women or indifferent).
  • “Gays’ gays hate women. They're rooting out against us.” (Chris, [19:44])
  • “There’s a range. I was unaware of it.” (Chris, [22:35])
  • Memorable moment when Hannah protects Paige from a “gay’s gay” being shady: “You can talk like that to me. You can’t talk like that to Paige.” (Hannah, [20:56])

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8. TV Recommendation and Representation: “Heated Rivalry”

• Heated endorsement of Amazon’s new gay hockey drama “Heated Rivalry”:
  • “It’s everything I wanted Challengers to be and challengers wasn’t.” (Hannah, [24:15])
  • “Heated Rivalry is about gay hockey players. ...How is it 2025 and we haven’t had a mainstream TV show of a male gay love story? ...I’m locked in.” (Hannah, [27:57])
  • Details about the physicality and masculine culture of hockey, how “figure skating”–adjacent it is, and how fighting is “theater.”
  • Candid discussion of how watching male-male intimacy on TV at first feels “visceral,” then quickly becomes “very hot.” (Hannah, [33:03]–[33:32])
  • Conversation about how much sexual fluidity exists among men, even in hyper-masculine spaces.

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9. Male Loneliness Epidemic & Gendered Friendships

• Examination of the so-called “male loneliness epidemic”.
  • “There was this video on TikTok…if you could move to a world where it was just all women, are you going? Every woman was like, fuck yeah, I’m going. Every man was like, absolutely not.” (Chris, [28:32])
• Contrasting the emotional intimacy of female friendships with male friendships’ struggle to express feelings or even give direct compliments.
  • “When was the last time you complimented your guy friend?...Years.” (Chris, [30:48])

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10. Taylor Swift Doc: Genius, Leadership, and Work Ethic

• Both watched the new Taylor Swift documentary, marveling at her stamina and intelligence.
  • “She’s a genius. If she was a man, everyone would be, like, talking about, like, literally, like, a philosopher. Like, she’s a genius.” (Hannah, [40:12])
  • “She is giving a full Broadway…She’s telling a story. She’s talking to you. Three hours!” (Chris, [42:46])
• They admire Swift’s generosity (“everyone gets bonuses if the tour does well”), professionalism, and emotional resilience.

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11. Method Acting & Gender

• Kristen Stewart’s viral interview (“Have you ever heard of a woman being a method actor? Because it's not a thing.” [57:26])
  • The group sides with Stewart: for women, “method acting” is weird, impractical, and self-indulgent—a privilege men pursue.
  • “If I was married to an actor and he came home and was that same character…I have to move out.” (Chris, [58:07])
  • “With acting…if you’re in a really dark character and you’re constantly having these negative thoughts, it does affect who you are.” (Hannah, [58:12])

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12. Motherhood, Comedy, and Gendered Career Obstacles

• Honest talk about the unique pressures on women (and comedians especially) regarding kids, aging, and “having it all.”
  • “I can’t just have a family and then joke about my wife and kids on stage every night while my wife is sewing her butthole and her vagina together again.” (Hannah, [59:01])
  • “I face this thing where it’s like, okay, I can just accept that male comedians will ascend past me after I have kids. But actually, no, I’m going to keep my foot on these bitches’ necks.” (Hannah, [61:57])
  • “Women can’t even post their after-baby body without the internet being like, fuck you.” (Chris, [62:18])

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13. Viral TikTok Drama: Solidcore Pilates

• Recap of a TikTok feud: a gay man filming himself doing Pilates alone at a studio and the commotion it sparked, including the differences in how male and female behavior is policed.
  • “He’s dealing with conflict so well. But the thing is, he is just…a man. Yeah. Which helps.” (Hannah, [65:34])
  • “A girl will do one thing that's off color…we're like, she’s a monster.” (Hannah, [66:12])

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14. Lighthearted Closing: Vacation Mishaps, Delusional Language Skills

• Hannah’s vacation misadventures, snorkeling-induced injuries, language learning false confidence, and nostalgia for childhood (“I was convinced I was fluent in Spanish by the third day.” [56:41])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:14 | Hannah | “I went full mom mode. She's lying in the street unconscious. Someone needs to find Grace.” | | 03:59 | Chris | “Normalize not having your spouse be your emergency contact.” | | 05:13 | Hannah | “When gay people get married, it’s a movement. When I get married, I’m embarrassing.” | | 07:19 | Hannah | “Talk about never being able to get wet again around him.” (on the man who ran during a mugging) | | 10:55 | Hannah | “Men. I’ll have Uber drivers…oversleep 40 minutes late. Doesn’t say sorry.” | | 12:28 | Chris | “Sometimes I’ll take certain paragraphs and I’ll throw it in ChatGPT and I’ll be like, make that snarkier.” | | 19:44 | Chris | “Gays’ gays hate women. They're rooting out against us.” | | 24:15 | Hannah | “It is everything I wanted Challengers to be and challengers wasn’t.” (on “Heated Rivalry”) | | 28:32 | Chris | “If you could move to a world where it was just all women, are you going? Every woman was like, fuck yeah…” | | 33:32 | Hannah | “At first I was like, ah. And then by the second episode I was like, put your finger in his butt. Let’s do this.”| | 40:12 | Hannah | “She’s a genius. If she was a man…like, literally, like, a philosopher.” (on Taylor Swift) | | 57:26 | Chris | “Have you ever heard of a woman being a method actor? Because it's not a thing.” | | 59:01 | Hannah | “I can’t just have a family and then joke about my wife and kids on stage every night…while my wife is, like, sewing her butthole and her vagina together again…”| | 61:57 | Hannah | “Actually, no, I’m going to keep my foot on these bitches’ necks because it’s going to be difficult, and it’s going to be hard.”|

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Key Segments With Timestamps

• Location-Sharing & Emergencies — [01:10]–[05:00]
• Marriage & Gendered Double Standards — [05:13]–[06:04]
• Safety/Roles of Gay Friends — [06:07]–[08:48]
• Men/Chivalry Generational Gap — [08:48]–[10:43]
• Men Don’t Apologize — [10:43]–[11:12]
• Anger/E-Mail Coping Strategies — [11:17]–[13:13]
• Girls' Gays vs. Gays' Gays — [19:09]–[22:40]
• Heated Rivalry & Representation — [22:54]–[34:30]
• Male Loneliness / Female Friend Intimacy — [28:32]–[31:06]
• Taylor Swift Doc — [39:09]–[44:27]
• Method Acting & Gender Privilege — [57:17]–[59:00]
• Motherhood, Career, & Comedy Inequality — [59:01]–[63:12]
• TikTok Solidcore Feud — [63:12]–[66:12]

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Tone & Style

The Giggly Squad’s signature is quick-witted, self-deprecating, chaotic, and loving in the most millennial way. The hosts openly mock gender roles and societal expectations, overshare about their lives, and make fun of everything—especially themselves—while still championing self-acceptance, feminism, and the power of authentic female (and “girl’s gay”) friendship.

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Final Thoughts

This episode exemplifies what fans love about Giggly Squad: deeply funny banter, fearless honesty about modern womanhood, the messiness and magic of female friendship, and a pop-culture lens that keeps things fresh and relatable.
Whether discussing new TV obsessions, existential friendship drama, or feminist critiques, Hannah and Paige keep the giggles rolling—and the real talk coming.

Transcript

[Paige Desorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Chris]

Gary, fix your WI fi.

[Hannah Berner]

Manifest that shit.

[Chris]

We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, my Matcha loaf.

[Chris]

Is it green?

[Hannah Berner]

Cause it's wicked week. I'm just kidding.

[Chris]

Let's actually start with her eating.

[Hannah Berner]

I was rolling, so we got that.

[Chris]

What's up, my green gigglers? No, Hannah's chose right now to have breakfast.

[Hannah Berner]

That was dry. Swallow. I have so much to talk about today. First of all, it's Sunday. Yeah. Wake up. Glorious snowing. Text Grace at 9am she doesn't answer. I'm like, okay, she's probably brushing her teeth. She's peeing. Or shower maybe. She's always ready to before me.

[Paige Desorbo]

Right.

[Chris]

And we have to be somewhere by 11.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. So there's two hours. But like, it's nine.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

So. So then I call her. She doesn't answer. Then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna call her again. Cause she might be sleeping. She might have overslept. Yep. Then I went full mom mode. And I was like, she's lying down in the street unconscious. Someone needs to find Grace.

[Chris]

She went out last night.

[Paige Desorbo]

She never came.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, do you have Grace? She's frosted. I'm like, not a location person. I don't even have my husband's location. What now?

[Chris]

You need to start taking down people's locations, Paige.

[Hannah Berner]

We don't have each other's locations.

[Chris]

I don't have your location.

[Hannah Berner]

You. Wait a sucker. Wait a second. I feel like probably the only person that you would want to know.

[Chris]

I don't have your loca. I always want to know your location.

[Hannah Berner]

Sierra just randomly took my location one day.

[Chris]

I have Sierra's location.

[Hannah Berner]

She likes just having it.

[Chris]

Yeah, I check in. I check in to see where she is every once in a while. Sometimes she really throws me for a loop. One time I checked, she was in, like, Vancouver. Oh, yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

She's always, like, in London.

[Chris]

No, I think having people's location is very important.

[Hannah Berner]

Clearly not that much. Cause you never asked me for it.

[Chris]

Well, you have a husband. You have other people that are watching you. Like, if you go missing, I'm probably not the first person that's gonna notice. It's gonna be someone else. And that person should have your location.

[Hannah Berner]

That's like when Des and I got in a fight because I put my mom down as my emergency contact.

[Chris]

Wait, I didn't know that.

[Hannah Berner]

You didn't know that? No.

[Chris]

For what?

[Hannah Berner]

I don't know. Some DMV stuff. And he looks at me and he was like, did you just put your mom? And I was like, yeah, she's the only adult I know. And he. Your husband. I'm your emergency contact. I'm like, you're always with me. You're not my emergency contact.

[Chris]

He's also, like, always out of town.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, you're always out of town on, like, speaking Mandarin to someone on the phone. You're a spy. I'm not putting your contact down.

[Chris]

Normalize. Not having your spouse be your emergency contact.

[Hannah Berner]

When does your mom not become your emergency contact?

[Chris]

I think when you get married.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, no, no, no. My husband is not taking care of me. That's disgusting and not feminist. Also, I do have to say, people are like, oh, it's a.

[Chris]

This is, I think, gonna start, like a real. A real conversation.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Like, I don't think my dad's not.

[Hannah Berner]

My emergency contact ever. Why would I put my husband?

[Chris]

Are you Dez's? But you're Dez's, Obviously.

[Hannah Berner]

I told him, how long have you been doing that?

[Chris]

You're like, do you wanna put my mom down?

[Hannah Berner]

No, I said that. I said, I have my mom's number if you need. She's available for all of us at all times. That's our only job on this world, is to make sure in emergencies, she's there for me.

[Chris]

And, like, should I put Lenore down also side.

[Hannah Berner]

Who's ever needed an emergency contact? Because I got Hit by a car once. And I'm pretty sure they were. They didn't have an emergency contact.

[Chris]

Do you know, in my phone, like, if something were to ever happen to me, and, like, the police are like, oh, where's her phone? If you go in my phone, my mom is my emergency contact in my phone. You can make that, like, a thing.

[Hannah Berner]

You're such a nervous Nelly. I love it. You're like, well, I'm very prepared for this moment.

[Chris]

I'm like, if there's an apocalypse, someone's gonna call my mom.

[Hannah Berner]

Can I say one thing about marriage, too? Everyone's like, oh, it's embarrassing to have a boyfriend. It's more embarrassing to be married. And then I was thinking about gay people and how jealous I am. Like, when gay people get married, it's a movement. Yes. When I get married, I'm embarrassing.

[Chris]

Well, again, only for girls.

[Hannah Berner]

Only for girls. Yeah. When men get married, everyone goes, thank God.

[Chris]

Yeah, like, when men get married, they're like, oh, he finally settled down. Like, he, like, worked on himself. He waited.

[Hannah Berner]

He's going to be on track.

[Chris]

He's like, yep.

[Hannah Berner]

He's just going to hold him down. Yes. He was all crazy and, yeah, she's just robbed.

[Chris]

He's like, when we do it, it's like your life's, like, expectancy is going to go down and just.

[Hannah Berner]

Your friends have asked for your location. They're literally like, by. By bitch. He goes, you're married. I'm like, okay, I never see my husband.

[Chris]

Wait, speaking of.

[Hannah Berner]

We have so much to talk about.

[Chris]

So much to talk about. Did you see that TikTok video of the girl getting mugged in, like. I think she was on vacation, like, in, like, Colombia or somewhere.

[Hannah Berner]

That's so your algorithm. Girls getting mugged. No, I have nice videos.

[Chris]

She's got her backpack on. She's with her male friend, which we can only assume is her boyfriend. Husband or fiance or platonic.

[Paige Desorbo]

We don't.

[Chris]

We don't fully know yet.

[Hannah Berner]

See, I immediately went to gay. But continue.

[Chris]

What we do know is she's got her backpack on. He's got his backpack on. They're looking at something, like, looks like they're looking at directions on the phone. Someone comes from around the corner, tries to snatch her phone. She starts fighting the guy. Like, no, you're not taking my phone. The man she's with runs away. Runs away behind a wall, okay? This woman's fighting for her life. A random guy from the street sees it's happening, runs up. I think he might have Even been, like, on a motorcycle or something. And pulls up, runs to her, helps her, gets the guy away from her, and then her boyfriend comes walking back into frame like, are you okay?

[Hannah Berner]

Talk about never being able to get wet again around him.

[Chris]

No, I would actually murder him.

[Hannah Berner]

Also, side note, if I did have a gay best friend with me, I feel like gay guys are the first to be like, let me beat his ass.

[Chris]

There's also nothing I love more than being with my gay guy friend. And they start acting like your boyfriend. Like, at the airport, they're like, I'll grab your.

[Hannah Berner]

I'm like, no. When you remember, like, wait, they're really strong. Like.

[Chris]

Like, sometimes Mitchell will do something, and I'll be like, oh, my God. I forget that, like, you're a. Like a man. You're a man. And people see you in the street, they don't know you, and, like, you're a man, so they're all automatically, like, respecting you.

[Hannah Berner]

It's funny. Cause that's, like, the only thing we need men for is, like, to defend us in that very specific situation that may or may not happen. And it's funny because I'm with an.

[Chris]

Older man and to take our bags down from the overhead, which they never.

[Hannah Berner]

Do, by the way. Actually, yesterday on the flight, I'm sitting next to this man, which I was like, oh, no, this could go badly. Didn't speak to me the whole time. I was like, I love this man. Yep. And then I'm waiting at the end. He stands up in the aisle, so obviously I can't go into the aisle to get my stuff. And he looks at me and he's like, do you have a bag up here? When I tell you I fly eight times a week. First time this has happened this year. Really?

[Chris]

And he said, yes, actually.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes. Little do you know, I had, like, seven bags. I was like, yes. And he pulled on the luggage, and he goes, what about this backpack? I go, that is mine too. He goes, what about that coat? I go, that is mine too. We're laughing, we're kikiing. And I said, we just brought men and women together.

[Chris]

How old was they?

[Hannah Berner]

He was. You know what? He was like a nice 40 year old. Yeah, yeah. Like he.

[Chris]

Was he married?

[Hannah Berner]

I don't think so. But he also. I don't know. He just was like, old school.

[Chris]

Did he give dad vibes?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

You have to get a dad because no one.

[Hannah Berner]

You have to get a dad.

[Chris]

You have to get a dad because no one under the age of 25. Like, man is even, like, looking in your direction to take. Like, they don't even. That's not even running through their head of like, oh, maybe I should help them get a bag down. That's like.

[Hannah Berner]

It's crazy.

[Chris]

It's really guys that are 30 to 40 that you're like, hello. Where? Like, past 45, they're helping more.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, but. But also past 50, they, like, can't.

[Chris]

Right?

[Hannah Berner]

Like, at some point, I'm like, I got it, sir. You're going to pull a ligament. I got it.

[Chris]

We don't need the plane to turn around because you have to go to the doctor.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, also, chaos ensued on one of my flights. A woman looks up and she goes.

[Chris]

Why does this always happen?

[Hannah Berner]

She goes, someone took my bag.

[Chris]

This is my worst nightmare. That's actually my worst fear.

[Hannah Berner]

I was in row two. So thank God it could only be two people in front of us. It was just a mistake, but the person was kind of like, okay, well, you just have to go find them. So then I'm locked into the drama. Wait.

[Chris]

The flight attendant was like, okay, we'll go chase him.

[Hannah Berner]

She literally goes, well, go get him, bitch. And I was like, behind her, like, let's go, girl. So I'm just following her.

[Chris]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah Berner]

And she's chasing this guy, and this guy is like, no idea. It's just a black bag. And then one thing I realized, and I didn't hear it specifically, but I want to say one other thing about men. Sorry, Chris. They never fucking say sorry. I say sorry if you hit me. Yeah. If you pummel me in the airport. I go, I am so.

[Chris]

That's so good.

[Hannah Berner]

You punch a woman in the face. And she's like, I am sorry for what I did. Men. I'll have Uber drivers or. No. Like, a driver supposed to pick me up for the airport and be like, oversleep 40 minutes late. Doesn't say sorry when he gets there. Yeah. Like, and this is not just one person. This happens all the time with men.

[Chris]

They don't say sorry, and they don't use exclamation points when they're writing emails.

[Hannah Berner]

And you know what? Part of me respects it. I say, should I be more like that? But then I think, how am I gonna not say sorry for being an hour late to a pickup time to an airport?

[Chris]

I've been really PMSing.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, the. They make it like, I made a mistake. Yeah, good for you. Good for you. Let it out.

[Chris]

That I was writing such a stern email this week that I started Crying. I literally am typing and I go.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, this is like actually kind of mean. You're Sarah Jessica Parker, but for mean emails.

[Chris]

Then at the bottom of the email I go, I hope this didn't come off as harsh.

[Hannah Berner]

And I play full on sobbing. Can I tell people what you do when. Which is actually very healthy.

[Paige Desorbo]

When.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay, so when Paige is really, really mad, but she knows that she needs to not say anything. Yeah. She will write it out like full fledged novels to people. Send it to me. I said, that was a good one. And she goes, thank you. And then deletes it.

[Chris]

I write informational text messages to people I hate. I write full, like. And I edit.

[Hannah Berner]

It's a form of journaling.

[Chris]

I edit it. Sometimes I'll take certain paragraphs and I'll throw it in ChatGPT and I'll be like, make that snarkier.

[Hannah Berner]

And I'm like.

[Chris]

And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a good one. And so I'll type out a full, full text message to someone and I won't obviously send it to that person because like, I could start a. I could start, like companies would end. Like, things would. It would be crazy. So I just send it to Hannah and I.

[Hannah Berner]

And I'll appreciate the line and like, you get. It's so good. I mean, I'll do that with social media. Like, you will not see me. Like, I will never. I'm not.

[Chris]

You're not in the comments.

[Hannah Berner]

I'm not in the comments at all. But. But if I do see anything that pisses me off, you just write it out. You have a little smirk. Cause you're like, that would have been funny. Paige would have laughed at that. And then you delete it and you go on with your life.

[Chris]

I hate people in two different senses. Like, I can hate you and I will never acknowledge that you're even alive on this planet. And that's like, that's worse for you. And that means I don't hate you as much as other people, but I really just more like wanna piss you off. But then there's another kind of hate where I'm like, I literally am manifesting for you the worst possible next five years.

[Hannah Berner]

When are you getting your period? Hopefully.

[Chris]

So no, I actually think I have PMDG where I like my PMS because this week I've been visceral.

[Hannah Berner]

I was PMSing. I actually just got my period. That's why I'm so relaxed today and gorgeous. My luteal phase is over. I was bloated, like A pig. Um, I was swollen, and I'm mad swollen, and I'm mad. Like, the week before your period, you were so ugly. So, so ugly. I mean, you're gorgeous at all times, but, like, me, I was on vacation, and I was like, that's crazy. Des at one point was like, are you pregnant? And I was like, that. You're not supposed to ask people that. Like, literally, you're not supposed to ask people that. And then I got like, HIPAA violation. You're not even my emergency ganja. You're not my emergency ganja.

[Chris]

I'm just like, yeah, ask me that.

[Hannah Berner]

I got a headache. You know when it's, like, in your eye socket? I'm googling what part of my eye socket?

[Chris]

And then I'm like, like, you had a migraine. But I had a migraine this week too.

[Hannah Berner]

But you know what's so funny? I'm insane. So I've never called it a migraine. I'm just like, I have a really bad headache.

[Chris]

Well, I classify a migraine when, like, after I take Advil or Tylenol and it's still there, I get. And, like, if I have to turn the light off, I'm like, oh, this is a migraine.

[Hannah Berner]

I have to say one thing about my Oura ring, okay? Because if you haven't noticed, I'm back on my Oura ring. Bullshit.

[Chris]

I don't think we ever really addressed it when you started it, because I tried just, like, ignore it.

[Hannah Berner]

I love Oura Ring.

[Chris]

You do?

[Hannah Berner]

Well, it's fun, because if I worked out, it would be more fun, but I don't. It's more like me on tour being, like, how tired am I? And you wake up and it goes, you're really fucking tired.

[Chris]

Looking at your own social media.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes. But this is the problem that I do have to raise awareness about Oura Rings. So now it'll say this thing being like, you're really tired. Make sure you relax today. So I've been using it like, I haven't worked out in a month. And Des, like, you should, like, move your body a little. And I go, my aura ring. So I wake up. I don't even consider working out because I'm like, my aura ring says the rest.

[Chris]

That's how I am with the app, the pattern, which is basically like horoscope. It's like, everyone sucks today but you. And I'm like, I knew it. Wait, I have an idea for Aura. If they made a version for animals, I would get it. Like, if I could put an Aura ring on kitty and see her collar? Yeah. Like, what's her sleeping patterns? Like, when was she awake last night? Is she hungry?

[Hannah Berner]

Well, that's my fur. Like, my furball lets me know. Like, I watch what butter's up to at night. Yeah, we don't know about a lot.

[Chris]

But what we do know about is getting enough sleep and being rested. And when we don't get enough sleep, we're nightmarish.

[Hannah Berner]

Nightmarish, sinister energy.

[Chris]

I have a very lengthy morning routine, nighttime routine.

[Hannah Berner]

You love a routine.

[Chris]

I love a routine. I like adding things into my routine, taking things out of my routine. One thing that is a staple in my routine is my AG1. I've been using AG1 for years now. Honestly, I would say like 2019 is probably when I first started using it.

[Hannah Berner]

And I'm so happy that AG1 now has something for a nighttime routine. And we're so excited about agz. It's a new melatonin free nightly drink that becomes a simple ritual we now look forward to at night.

[Chris]

Added into my nighttime routine all the time, I like to be working while I'm sleeping. That's one thing people think we're, like, lazy. We're bedrotters.

[Hannah Berner]

No, we're working. Working just horizontally.

[Chris]

I'm recharging. I'm hair oiling. I'm getting my fill of magnesium.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes. I also, I love a fun drink. I don't want to drink water.

[Chris]

No, you don't.

[Hannah Berner]

I don't. And at night when you're not going out, I still want to have something fun. A little party in my bedroom.

[Chris]

Now, they have a flavor mixed berry that has. Right to the top of my list. Makes my routine even easier because it does taste so good. So I have it at nighttime because it has magnesium in it. And magnesium is very important for women specifically.

[Hannah Berner]

And I'm obsessed with the chocolate mint right now because I make it hot. I make it hot. It feels nice on the throat. I make it with warm oat milk since I'm off my dairy, as you know. And I sip it while cuddling my cat. And it just tells my body, like, the day's over, we're slowing down. Stop overthinking everything. Stop thinking about everything that you've done that's embarrassing in your life. And let's relax. I wake up feeling rested, not groggy. Sleep is actually like our number one superpower. So it's melatonin free.

[Chris]

I'm off melatonin. I'm all about magnesium. And magnesium is supposed to be like Better for women. It helps you sleep and I just. I prefer it.

[Hannah Berner]

I love a nighttime warm drink. You do.

[Chris]

And I love a nighttime cold drink.

[Hannah Berner]

And that's where we're different but similar.

[Chris]

But there's nothing like getting in bed. You fulfilled all your tasks, your hair's up in a bun, you're doing a mask, you have a face mask on. You've already journaled, you've picked your show for later, and you're drinking a nice drink.

[Hannah Berner]

We're officially obsessed with our new nighttime routine. AGZ is the melatonin free nightly drink that helps your body and mind wind down and supports restful, restorative sleep so you can wake up feeling refreshed. We love that you can work it into your nightly routine and turn better sleep into your new favorite ritual.

[Chris]

If you're ready to turn down the stress and focus on the rest, head to drink ag1.com giggly to get a free frother with your first purchase of AGZ. That's drinkag1.com giggly this segment was brought to you by AG1 speaking of last.

[Hannah Berner]

Night and speaking of gays, because if you guys don't know, I was again, a past life. I am on a gay algorithm. I seek the gays approval like nobody's business. I think there is something healing about, like going from wanting straight male approval to gay male approval.

[Chris]

That's like, so much to say about this. I'm really happy you're bringing this up.

[Hannah Berner]

No, you, you can, you can go on with this.

[Chris]

I learned recently that there's.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, she's moving stuff around.

[Chris]

I need an area. There's gays, gays, girls, gays.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh. Cause the gays, gays hate women.

[Chris]

The gays, gays hate women. They're rooting out against us. I rarely, rarely come into contact with gays gay to the point where I don't know. It's happening to me. You were with me one specific time.

[Hannah Berner]

I attract gays, gays. They come towards me.

[Chris]

You attract gays, gays. We're like all, all of my gay guy friends. They're girls gays. Like, they're excited. Like, and I saw this video on TikTok and it was like, if you're a girl's gay, you of any other species on the planet watch women get their heart broken so many times. Not just from like relationships, just like them living like the abortion stuff. Like all of that stuff. Like, if you're friends. Yeah. Cause they're in our lives with us where gays, gays are like, only with gay guys, and they, like, don't really give a shit about women. And I didn't know this was a thing until one time I was with a gay man and I was with Hannah, and I was like, oh, I think he's maybe being mean to me, but sometimes I'm sensitive, so I'm like, no. Like, I'm just being sensitive. Like, whatever. And then he said, like, a couple other things, and Hannah was like. Then I saw Hannah get confused. I'm like, no, this is Paige.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, no, no, no. This. You can talk like that to me. You can't talk like that to Paige.

[Chris]

You're gay, and this is Paige. Where's the disconnect?

[Hannah Berner]

No.

[Chris]

And I'll never forget this gay man until as long as I live because I was.

[Hannah Berner]

You wrote him a pretend email. Also some giggly squad shows. There are different girls gays too, where I think there's, like, a Paige gay and a Hannah gay. Because I don't want to. Gay men do connect with me in a different way.

[Chris]

Like love sports. And those girls gaze are your gaze.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, there will be some very funny, specific Bravo gays. Some of them do like me. Some of them are literally like, the Bravo gays have kept me sane through my for a long time. Wait, what?

[Chris]

Bravo gays.

[Hannah Berner]

Every man on reality tv.

[Chris]

I was just gonna say, they're not out. I know. I was saying, like, they did cast classify as gays. Gays.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, Bravo, by gays. Like, we love them.

[Chris]

I like them.

[Hannah Berner]

But occasionally on a giggly squad show, there will be, like, a guy, a gay guy raise his hand, and he'll be like, hi, Paige, look at me. And then ask you something about your outfit. And I'm like, oh, we're in a fucking fight. But then I'll have, like, a gay come up to me at, like, a coffee shop and be like, by the way, like, Netflix doesn't have a lot of specials. I feel like I could connect with and watching your special, like, I loved you. And I was like, can you tell Paige? Because she thinks that, like, gay guys.

[Chris]

Don'T like gay guys only like her.

[Hannah Berner]

It's kind of bad for my brain. So there is a. We're learning that there is a range.

[Chris]

There's a range. And I was, like, unaware of it. And then I was like, oh, no. I've actually experienced this look.

[Hannah Berner]

Misogyny comes in all shapes and forms. Shapes and sizes now. Which brings me to last night, I watched the first three episodes of Heated rivalry. Now, has heated Rivalry come across your desk at all.

[Chris]

It sure has.

[Hannah Berner]

How so?

[Chris]

I'm an avid show surfer.

[Hannah Berner]

You are.

[Chris]

And if there's something new on the platforms, I'm dialed in. I know what's coming out. I have things that alert Netflix, like saved, Alert me, Emily in Paris Thursday. Like, we know it. So when I was on Amazon and I saw. Cause there was another Amazon show. I forget what it's called, but they were royal and they were gays, and I loved that.

[Hannah Berner]

You love that.

[Chris]

And so then I saw hockey Players, and I was like, mm, so I'm two episodes in.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, I didn't know. Of course. Did you start watching after I told you last night?

[Chris]

No, I've been watching.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, you've been. Okay, sorry.

[Chris]

I've been watching. Before you tell your story, one little fact I want the gigglers to know. There is not one out NHL player. There might be one in the minor leagues. I think maybe there's one in, like, the level below.

[Hannah Berner]

I love that you immediately looked into this.

[Chris]

Well, statistically. Honey, statistically cannot be true. Cannot be true.

[Hannah Berner]

Now, let me preface this, because I know we recommend a lot of stuff on Giggly Squad, and I know that y' all are listening, and you're like, oh, let's throw it on. And you know the holidays are coming up and you're gonna be with your family. He's like, oh, Hannah, Paige mentioned the show. He did Rivalry. Yeah. Warning. Or.

[Chris]

Or even a conversation. Even a conversation with Graham. Graham.

[Hannah Berner]

Someone brings up politics or anything homophobic, say, hey, I want to show you a new show. I've got a show for you, a holiday show. It's called Heated Rivalry. Now, this is my hot take about Heated Rivalry. It is everything I wanted challengers to be and challengers wasn't. And as you guys know, I have.

[Chris]

Wait, were they gay and challengers?

[Hannah Berner]

They were, like, teasing it the whole time.

[Chris]

Yeah, they were gay baiting.

[Hannah Berner]

And in my head, I was like, if this was about, like, this love triangle, but the guys are actually hooking up and they're, like, in the closet on tour together. Like, I'm locked in. Locked. So he'd arrive. And by the way, when I first went to Wisconsin, Gobi Edgers, I was unfamiliar with hockey. I'd only known, like, basketball players, baseball players. I was from Brooklyn. I never met this breed of hockey. Man, they're pale, they're chiseled, they have bow legs, they have STDs, they have little fucked up teeth. They tack like this. They're all. But they're all, like, kind of beautiful.

[Chris]

Yeah, well, they're like. They're very like, grunt. Like, they're just like, boys.

[Hannah Berner]

Dirty boys. Boys. And they went to college together.

[Chris]

Sweaty.

[Hannah Berner]

And their hair's always, like, straggly. And they grow out. And they have all these names for each other.

[Chris]

And they have to, like, squat on the other side.

[Hannah Berner]

Honestly, I was into it. Yeah. Cause it's honest. It is figure skating. But then they, like, punch each other to remind themselves. It's like straight.

[Paige Desorbo]

Yeah.

[Chris]

It's like, okay, that was a triple style cow. Let's not pretend it wasn't anything else but a Tara Lipinski flip.

[Hannah Berner]

Let's be serious. No, they literally do a triple style count. And then they're like, I'm straight.

[Chris]

So this is also just a wild concept that there's a sporting event where they're like, yeah, they want to punch each other. We're okay with it as long as.

[Hannah Berner]

It doesn't go too far. It's assault. At any point, a guy will just. It is actually like a form of.

[Chris]

Because if anyone did that in any other place.

[Hannah Berner]

No, it's a form of theater. It's like, oh, he's gotten angry. Like, if a girl did that. Imagine if middle of the podcast I started punching you. That would be a problem. But no, it's good entertainment.

[Chris]

That's what I mean about gang violence. It's like, guys just go to therapy, fuck it out.

[Hannah Berner]

But also, you know, these guys get a beer afterwards, which is the even crazier thing. Or they might be having sex.

[Chris]

So a lot of lovers quarrels could be happening on the ice of.

[Hannah Berner]

We don't. That's why they've been fighting the whole time they've been fighting. Because they're like, did you look at that guy's ass? We're figuring everything out now. As someone, when I tell you guys I was not a jersey chaser. Cause I was an athlete. So it was more athlete on athlete crime. But like, in theory, like, I just loved athletes. My whole life. All I want day is athletes. I've never looked at a poet. I've dabbled in a musician. But he did play sports. And that was a mistake. Yeah.

[Chris]

And we learned and we grew.

[Hannah Berner]

We learned and we grew. But I'm obsessed with athletes. Cause as you guys know, I'm very strong. And athletes make me feel tiny. I'm like, just adorable and little around them, and they're like, you're so tiny. I'm like, I know. So then watching this made me question everything. Cause in my head, I'm like, well, I'm just like, the athletes on campus are the most manly, masculine straight dudes. And look, have I heard through the grapevine in real life that this may or may not have happened? A couple times, yes. But now I'm, I'm looking at everyone differently. Yeah. I'm looking around at every dude and I don't. Chris, I don't trust you. Like, if I was a dude, I'd be fucking my friend. Like, girls is so much more like, you gotta, you know, make them trust you.

[Paige Desorbo]

Right.

[Hannah Berner]

It seems very complicated. If you are just a horny dude, fuck your friend. Leave us alone.

[Chris]

Yeah, leave us alone.

[Hannah Berner]

Go jerk off with your friend now. I'm afraid I didn't even preface this correctly. Heated rivalry is about gay hockey players. And when I tell you, how is it 20, 25, sorry. I'm very passionate about this. And we haven't yet had a, like mainstream TV show of like a male gay love story. That is so I'm locked in. Yeah, I'm locked in also, by the way, there is, it is. I don't want to be like, oh, it's gay porn. But like, if you're watching a show where straight people hook up, it's a lot of sex. So just like warning people also, but there's no dicks.

[Chris]

One point for the male loneliness epidemic. Obviously they're trying to blame it all on the girls and we're mean to them now and stuff, but maybe it's because the men can't create a space in which they're safe with each other. There was this video on TikTok and it was like this girl went up to a certain amount of women and it was like, if you could move to a world where it was just all women, are you going? And every woman was like, for fuck yeah, like, I'm going. And then they asked the same question to men, like, would you move to a world that was all men? And every man was like, absolutely not. That's insane. Why would we ever do that?

[Hannah Berner]

But then all the men do is complain that they can't hang out with their friends enough. And it's the gay ones.

[Chris]

Well, mind you, like, in all female world, I don't think would work either because, like, the amount of text messages I probably have to send is insane.

[Hannah Berner]

SMS would explode.

[Chris]

But in like, just a low level thinking of it, we enjoy being with each other for long periods of time because we feel safe with each other. They don't even feel safe enough to be like, hey, I think that guy's hot.

[Hannah Berner]

Could you imagine what's great in that show is you. They can't communicate with each other. And he just keeps saying, fuck you, bro. You. Like, that's how they talk. And then I'm like, that's literally how the guys always.

[Chris]

Like, if I one day was like, wait, I actually think I'm attracted to women and I think I'm a lesbian. You're the first person I'm telling.

[Hannah Berner]

You'd marry me. Well, because if you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chris]

So now I'm two people's emergency contact. Like, what? Like, no, you're none. When are you going to figure it out?

[Hannah Berner]

No. Well, we. When men hang out, they have trouble express. I hope that men. Chris, do you have one guy? Yeah.

[Chris]

Like, who can. Like, how long have you been friends with your best friend?

[Hannah Berner]

My oldest best friend is probably like sixth grade.

[Paige Desorbo]

Okay.

[Hannah Berner]

But I'm probably more closer with people in recent years.

[Chris]

Okay. When's the last time you had like a sentimental, like, deep. Where you were like, man, that was a really deep conversation with so and so.

[Hannah Berner]

Somewhat often.

[Chris]

Really?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, Somewhat often. Chris is like, like, Chris is dialed in. Yeah.

[Chris]

How old are you again?

[Hannah Berner]

28.

[Chris]

28. So you are technically Gen Z or. No, you're on the cusp.

[Hannah Berner]

It's like right on the cusp.

[Chris]

You're like an older Gen Z.

[Hannah Berner]

When was the last time you complimented your guy friend? Like, early. Oh, that's tough. Like, seriously and non. Ironically, like, years. But actually, Paige and I don't compliment each other.

[Paige Desorbo]

That's not true.

[Hannah Berner]

I'm just kidding. But like, the way I compliment you is like, I'll make fun of you.

[Chris]

And they'll be like, yeah, but that's.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, that's true. That is.

[Chris]

But like, when you walk in somewhere and like, you look at him and.

[Hannah Berner]

You look so good. Well, yeah. Cause then you're obsessed with me. Yeah. And then when you don't say anything, I like, have to go home and reflect on my decisions. It's a whole thing.

[Chris]

But I digress. Did you have another point?

[Hannah Berner]

This heated rivalry is so good. Also, I love that in film and tv traditionally, when. In the arts. In the arts. I feel like gay characters were so stereotyped. When there's a gay guy, it's just the gay best friend. That's the only gay guy there is. Totally. And he doesn't have his own storyline and he's, you know, bitchy and girly and that's it. So just them showing these guys and they're not acting in like a theatrical stereotypical. Gay. Which, by the way, being a girly gay is perfect. It's just. There isn't one kind of gay, which we discussed earlier in this podcast.

[Chris]

Well, it's also, like, they're not out, so they are almost, like, cosplaying. Not. Yeah. And so it's actually like, there's also an element to it where it's like, where you're like, wait, I wish you could just, like, be together and, like, tell everyone, like.

[Hannah Berner]

And it's funny because at first, because I'm not used to seeing it, because I don't watch male gay porn.

[Chris]

You don't?

[Hannah Berner]

Well, so I heard from the lesbian community. Lesbians love male gay porn. Interesting lesbian correspondents. Message me if I'm wrong, because I don't want to have false information out there. But some lesbians, it's, like, why I've actually.

[Chris]

I've never watched tv.

[Hannah Berner]

It's why straight girls like girl on.

[Chris]

Girl porn because they're so, like, removed from it. Like, it's almost like we still haven't.

[Hannah Berner]

Been able to figure this out. I haven't been playing it, but lesbians don't want to watch two girls pretend to hook up. Where straight girls were like, okay, they're pretending.

[Chris]

What do you mean, they're pretending?

[Hannah Berner]

I go, she squirted.

[Chris]

She really liked that, actually.

[Hannah Berner]

But having at first one.

[Chris]

Wait, that is actually really funny. I've never even thought to look for two guys.

[Hannah Berner]

No. No.

[Chris]

Because I'm like, what am I gonna do here?

[Hannah Berner]

No, I've never clicked.

[Chris]

Also, it seems I never even see it.

[Hannah Berner]

Aggressive. I don't also. Yeah, Like, I don't. Two dicks. That's a nightmare. Yeah. So then. But so watching it, when they first start kissing, I think I got, like, a visceral reaction because I'm so not used to seeing it. And at first I was like, ah. And then by the second episode, I was like, put your finger in his butt. Let's do this. I'm locked in. And it was, like, very hot.

[Chris]

Well, it also kind of shows a, like, part of it that we kind of forget that anal's, like, a thing.

[Hannah Berner]

No, I'm just kidding.

[Chris]

No, there's more holes in 2025. There's so many men that are not out, and not just because I've dated half of them, but because, like, I look in the world and it's very sad.

[Hannah Berner]

Think about it. All girls are gay.

[Paige Desorbo]

Totally.

[Hannah Berner]

All girls are gay. We have to come out as straight. Yeah. We say, oh, I'm straight. I'm Sorry, I'm straight.

[Chris]

Well, we, we are embarrassing. We're comfortable enough with our sexuality to be able to say like, that girl is so hot. Or like, watch gay lesbian porn. Like, I've never heard a straight man saying, like, I watch guy on guy porn.

[Hannah Berner]

Because we're out here just being like, yeah, obviously I watch two girls watching a man.

[Chris]

We don't know. We don't know. But, but bottom line is in 2025, where gay marriage is legal and there's.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, I mean, we hope, we hope.

[Chris]

We hope continuing that there's still men that feel like they can't come out.

[Hannah Berner]

I also think there's a lot of men that are just like on the spectrum.

[Chris]

Yeah. Not where they're like, maybe I'm bi.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. Like, where sexuality is all over the place and with girls it's more freeing and socially acceptable. Also, do you know any girls you see on the street holding hands that you're just like, they're so cute. Best friends, but they're dating.

[Chris]

Thinking of just, oh.

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[Chris]

Today I watched the Taylor Swift documentary.

[Hannah Berner]

I watched the first two episodes too. Wait, we are. We never watch the same things. This week is like a miracle, you guys. Happy holidays.

[Chris]

Even just saying you're impressed by her is, like, such a low level.

[Hannah Berner]

I.

[Chris]

And look, I like Taylor Swift.

[Hannah Berner]

I.

[Chris]

When I was in high school, like, when that album, first album came out, like, the girls, we just got our license. It was life changing, obviously. Like, as time has gone on, I feel like I've missed a couple albums. I wasn't like, as in tuned, but, like, now she's getting engaged and all this stuff and this documentary. She's so impressive. It's actually. Actually mind blowing.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, when you follow a celebrity just through, like, other people's concepts of them and tweets and random photos and narratives, so much is made up.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

And obviously this documentary, like, is made by her and she's putting forward something, but you can't deny what she's showing, which is, first of all, she's a genius.

[Chris]

Genius.

[Hannah Berner]

Can we just say she's a genius? Like, if she was a man, everyone would be, like, talking about, like, literally, like. Like a philosopher. Like, she's a genius.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

When she speaks, everything she says is so astute and smart. And three and a half hours on stage, Paige and I. Paige and I.

[Chris]

It's all three and a half hours. Thought about three and a half hours. I was like, I. Did you see the one part where she was like, I'm sorry. I'm just like. Her mom comes in, she was like, I'm just like, a little, like, she wants to say, anxious. Yeah, she's happy. All I could think of was like, do you take beta blockers like I wanted?

[Hannah Berner]

No, I mean, seeing her get home from the show, take off her makeup and be like, oh. I'm like, I'm just gonna watch TV for eight hours.

[Chris]

I was like, I can't come down.

[Hannah Berner]

We were like, weird. Taylor Swift.

[Chris]

I felt like Taylor Swift. But think about how much more she's doing. I die. I don't die on tour.

[Hannah Berner]

I love that. She was like, I don't remember. Choreography. Yes. So. And I Go. I love, but it's. She's normalizing me.

[Chris]

She said, don't count to me. That's disgusting. You don't have to all know by the word.

[Hannah Berner]

You're perfect. She's like, I know what my strengths are. I'm really fucking good at what I do. And then I hire people to do the right things around me. And then, like, the fact that she trusts the people around her so much that she's like, I need to step it up for them. She's like, I have the best people in the business.

[Chris]

And then also, I thought it was crazy when she was like, look, if the tour makes more money than projected, then that means everyone gets bonuses. Which, like, when you hear that said, you're like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Like, it grossed more money, whatever. But to then find out that, like, that happens all the time, where the tour will make more money than projected and not. The majority of artists are not tipping their crew, like, extra, I think speaks volumes.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, look, there's two types of people in the world, probably more, but one kind is like, I earned this. This is me. Hoard all the money. And I. And all these people are so lucky to fucking be here. Yeah. And then there's people who are like, oh, my God, I wouldn't be here without all these people who left their families. Also, the happier they are. It starts from the bottom. Yeah. Like, if the person driving you is content and everything comes up from that, everyone is happier. And I do think what's cool about Taylor is, you see, like, she knows she can make an impact. And like, what they say in Spider man, with great power comes great responsibility. Like, she knows that she can change someone's life, and she does. So the documentary is fascinating, and I'm upset. I never was able to go to the show.

[Chris]

I went to the one at MetLife, and it was incredible. I mean, like, she is a performer. Like, and I've been to a lot of concerts before, and you're like, oh, my God, she's such a cute little dancer, and she's so good. But Taylor is giving a full Broadway. There's no other way to describe it. It's a full Broadway theatrical performance. She's telling a story. She's talking to you. She's bringing on guests. I mean, three hours. I couldn't even tell you. Another concert I've been to that was over two hours.

[Hannah Berner]

I can't do anything for three hours.

[Chris]

No, no. And how she did it every single night and then. And focusing to go where she went like 220 places or something.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. I do love her relationship with her mom.

[Chris]

I love her relationship with her mom. I also think that she's so mentally strong, like to be able to meet with those families where they had children that were killed. And then for her to be able. And she's crying hysterically. And then to be able to be like, no, compartmentalize it. Now I have to go on stage. I'm like, I can't.

[Hannah Berner]

Also a lot of people would be like, I'm not meeting with the families before the show. It's gonna fuck me up. Can we find a different time?

[Chris]

All I was thinking was before the.

[Hannah Berner]

Show, she probably does. Didn't have time. And also, I think that she also was like, I need to do this, I need to see this.

[Chris]

And then did you see when she gets off stage, she walks off stage straight into the car. Like, there's no. She's not changing. She's not stopping. She's just going.

[Hannah Berner]

And as someone who sees a lot of people tour, some people like tour as a party.

[Chris]

I don't get that.

[Hannah Berner]

And they have like 20 people with them at all times. Yeah. And they're. It's. It's just a different kind of motion. She's an athlete.

[Paige Desorbo]

She's an athlete.

[Hannah Berner]

Treated like a sport, which is what we try to do.

[Chris]

There's a lot of jobs that I would say that like men take and just make alcohol events. But then they try and say they're working and you're like, nope, that's just you and your friends are getting drunk.

[Hannah Berner]

So men invented meetings.

[Chris]

Men invented me.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Have you ever watched Mad Men?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. All they do is have scotch and then like talk about the secretary for 20 minutes and then be like, okay.

[Chris]

And it's like, why is there a male loneliness epidemic? It's like, guys, one thing I have.

[Hannah Berner]

Learned to motivate the gigglers is like now that I'm in my 30s, you know, you deal with. You're not like entry level job anymore. So you talk to people that are like high up at companies. So scary, you guys, no one knows what they're doing. No one, no one knows what they're doing. Like, I hope this makes you feel better. Oh, my recent flex though, with.

[Chris]

Unless you work. And let's be very clear, unless you're like a lawyer or a doctor. Yeah. That type of profession, you guys.

[Hannah Berner]

Unless you're honestly a woman in the field. But like, there's just a lot of people that have just like been at the job for a while. They're there. Like, they're not. Like, they're not doing something crazy that you can't do. Yeah. Have some belief in yourself. You were mentioning emails with men putting exclamation mark in emails now, by the way, I'm not part of a company, so don't do what I do. Because I, like, I'm an entrepreneur. Yep. My recent flex in emails is, like, no grammar. Have you noticed? So it looks like I'm. Cause I actually am busy. Yeah. So, like, I respond like, I'm so busy, but I'm just barely getting the response out. Like, no, period. You're literally on every email I'm on. So I'll just be like. And you know what?

[Chris]

When I see Hannah respond, I go, oh, Hannah.

[Hannah Berner]

She's respond. So this is something I say. This works. Thank you. And I'll be like, all under case. No, period. I don't even put a single space until my signature. Just, this works. Thank you, Hannah Berner. Yeah, because it's just like, we're. We're. I'm not like, hello, thank you for regarding my last email.

[Chris]

No, we don't have time to try and do that.

[Hannah Berner]

Time is money.

[Chris]

But then after I send that text message or that email with no punctuation, or I'm just like, blunt, ask the question. I'm like, everyone thinks I'm a bitch.

[Hannah Berner]

No, I don't think that. I think it's funnier, though, if you, like, have bad grammar and you're trying to be like, sincerely when you're trying.

[Chris]

To be, like, more professional.

[Hannah Berner]

And it doesn't make sense.

[Chris]

I left that when I left.

[Hannah Berner]

Do you know why? Because if your email has multiple paragraphs, I'm not reading it.

[Chris]

Also, sue me. I'm throwing in an LOL every once in a while.

[Hannah Berner]

You love an lol.

[Chris]

I love an lol.

[Hannah Berner]

And you love what Hannah says. Lol. Cause they're like, paige. Paige, what do you think? Whatever. Hannah said lol. Well, look, millennials are running stuff now, so we can say lol.

[Chris]

Absolutely. It's mandatory.

[Hannah Berner]

Can I say one more thing about gay men? Yes.

[Chris]

It's my favorite topic.

[Hannah Berner]

Jonathan Bailey, who's the most handsome person in the world, is the first gay sexiest man alive. And I think we're just acknowledging that, first of all, all men are probably gay.

[Paige Desorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

So we might as well pick an out gay man now.

[Chris]

I'm pretty sure we said last sexiest man alive that it should have been Jonathan Bailey.

[Hannah Berner]

Jonathan Bailey. He's so attractive.

[Paige Desorbo]

He's so cute.

[Chris]

Do you see when he really thinks something's funny and he, like, falls over? I'm like, that's adorable.

[Hannah Berner]

Are you, like, attracted to him? Like, would you hook? Yeah. Okay.

[Chris]

I'm also attracted to pretty much everyone in Heated Rivalry, but.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris]

Who do you like more specifically? The.

[Hannah Berner]

Don't say the Russian.

[Paige Desorbo]

No.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay.

[Chris]

You know, I don't like a blonde.

[Hannah Berner]

You hate a blonde. Oh, you like the. The hairy one? Yeah. Yeah. Because he looks a little Italian. He's.

[Chris]

I love him. Is he gay in real life?

[Hannah Berner]

You think he is. Which is crazy because he's good for.

[Chris]

Them but bad for Sapphire.

[Hannah Berner]

He's Canadian. I looked him up. By the way, the Russian guy in Heated Rivalry was every single one of my Russian coaches growing up.

[Chris]

Is he gay in real life?

[Hannah Berner]

I don't know. They haven't said. It's kind of part of the lore.

[Chris]

Oh, interesting.

[Hannah Berner]

So I just grew up with, like, handsome young Russian and Ukrainian tennis coaches in Brooklyn who, like, looking back now, I'm like, they were definitely hungover. They were partying, having a good time. But they would just yell at me. And I was 9 years old, and I'd be like, can I have water, Sergey? And they'd be like, no, bend your knees. But they were all so hot. So I got some psd, ptsd, dstp watching it. But my final thing about hot gay men, the reason I like them so much is cause they are my type and that they don't like you. They don't like me? Yeah, they don't. They are so disgusted by me. And I'm like, oh, I love that. Yeah. I stand around them. They're like, can you please just walk away?

[Chris]

Yeah. I don't know what's attracted me to all my gay boyfriends. I think just, like, hair and jawline.

[Hannah Berner]

I think they're attracted to you. Cause they want to be you. And then you like attention.

[Chris]

I think that's what it is.

[Hannah Berner]

I thought it.

[Chris]

I attract them.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. And then you like people who like you, so next thing you know, you're just in it. I had a fun time in Mexico. Thank you for asking. Oh, sorry. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. It was literally three days. Yeah.

[Chris]

Have you ever been able to go on a vacation and not have to leave early from work?

[Hannah Berner]

Like, it's hard. Yeah, it's hard because we don't. We don't have. We don't love work Life balance on this podcast. But I did have to leave to do this, like, shoot on Friday. That's, like, my face is in it. So I'm like, this is perfect. Like, I'm gonna get a tan. Yeah. And I'm really excited. And then DEZ goes, let's go snorkeling. By the way, never been snorkeling before. I'm from Brooklyn.

[Chris]

We don't snorkel, snorkel.

[Hannah Berner]

It's not sky. It's not skydiving.

[Chris]

It's not scuba diving.

[Hannah Berner]

It's not scuba diving. It's actually. It's so funny because you're underwater. Like, it's. It's intense and you have the little. Yeah, you're breathing underwater. But if someone. And you feel like you are scuba diving, but if someone looks from the outside, you're just lying in like the. In like the beginning of the water. Yeah. Just like flapping around. Yeah. But it was so beautiful.

[Chris]

Did it just the two of you or was it a group of people?

[Hannah Berner]

It was just the two of us. We just went out and there were all these different colored fish. And there was one fish that was so page coded. It was navy with these beautiful polka dots.

[Chris]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah Berner]

It was like polka dots, perfectly polka dot. It was like every other fish was like these bright neon colors. And this was like navy polka dot. Just like. And it had these, like, cute lips. I was like, oh, my God, there's Paige. I kept going, paige, fish.

[Chris]

She's like, sorry, I'm on holiday.

[Hannah Berner]

She's on holiday. I. So I get out of the water and we take our goggles off. Sorry, I don't know words.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

And he has, like a mark on his forehead. And I'm like, ha. You have a mark. And he's like, so do you. And we go. And we're eating, and he's like, by the way, like, the mark on your forehead is like, not going away. I'm like, that's weird. And we get back to the hotel and I look, I busted a blood vessel in my forehead because I snapped it too tight on my face because I was so afraid I was gonna be drowned. So I was like, I need to make sure we're going underwater. So I made it too tight. Yeah, but the snatches. Then popped a blood vessel.

[Chris]

You pop your fucking eyeball.

[Hannah Berner]

No, I know. I popped a blood vessel in the middle of my forehead where, like, it was like, all like.

[Chris]

Did you have a picture?

[Hannah Berner]

No, I was like, that upset. It didn't. I'll look and then we'll put it in the newsletter. But, like, I start freaking out. Cause I'm like, I can't show up to this gig with a fucking. A huge red dot. Like I tried to put makeup on it. It wasn't working and it wasn't a bump. Like it didn't hurt. It just something popped under my skin and it was like leaking. Awesome. Perfect. I love vacation.

[Chris]

Which it does. Say you're like, ah, this is a perfect time to emergency contact, do anything. You're like, fine, I'll call my mom.

[Hannah Berner]

He's like, how the fuck did that happen to you? It didn't happen to me.

[Chris]

That is so you though.

[Hannah Berner]

That is so if it would happen, it, it happened.

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[Chris]

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Chris]

Of things I never touch.

[Paige Desorbo]

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[Chris]

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Chris]

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[Hannah Berner]

Also, I. Like, I'm so delusional. By, like, the third day, I was convinced that I was fluent in Spanish. Like, you know, the first day you're like, oh, my God, I can't speak Spanish. And third day, I was like, I know what they're saying.

[Chris]

Well, people say that you learn the fastest when you're immersed in it. I literally was like, I know who they're fighting.

[Hannah Berner]

Interesting. I fully knew. I was like, well, this is my problem with Spanish. I was trying to learn grammar. Apparently, you don't learn grammar first. You learn the words grammar last. But in school, they teach you grammar first. That's. I digress. That's just.

[Chris]

Did you see Kristen Stewart doing that interview being like, hey, let me ask you a question. You ever heard of a woman being a method actor?

[Paige Desorbo]

No.

[Chris]

Because it's not a thing.

[Hannah Berner]

It's disrespectful and weird. It's so weird.

[Chris]

It just says, like, you have nothing going on at home. You can stay this person, you freak. Like, that's like when Austin Butler became Elvis, and, like, he's still Elvis.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. Well, also, it's definitely not ideal. Like, it definitely throws everyone off on set when, like, you're at, you know, crafty, and you're like, excuse me, can I please have some more of the cheeks?

[Chris]

It's like, you're not Mick Jagger in real life. Like, this is a biopic. Chill out. Like, if I was married to an actor and he came home and he was that same character.

[Hannah Berner]

I'm like, you're not a toddler. We're not playing these pretend games anymore.

[Chris]

I have to move out.

[Hannah Berner]

I do think, too, with acting, which is kind of scary. Like, you know Heath Ledger with the Joker. Yeah. They say, like, the way you think, you know, affects your life. And if you're in, like, a really dark character and you're constantly having these, like, negative thoughts, it does affect who you are as a person. People have had, like, really dark.

[Chris]

But I was just so happy she said that because it's like, I love her. Because we had had that whole conversation where, like, men can talk so passionately about, like, their careers and about their jobs and, like, women can't, because it's like, but you have kids. Like, same thing with, like, the Whitney Levitt. Like, but what are your kids doing? It's like, what?

[Hannah Berner]

Well, I've been talking on Stage about having kids. And I'm like, coming up with all these reasons why it could be difficult. And I literally just have been spurting out. I'm not a male comedian. I can't just have a family.

[Chris]

No, no.

[Hannah Berner]

I can't just have a family and then joke about my wife and kids on stage every night while my wife is, like, sewing her butthole and her vagina together again. Like, there.

[Chris]

People really don't talk about it. Like, I'm type A. I love a plan. I love, like, you know, sitting down and being like, what's the next five years? But, like, women have to do that. Like, we have to plan our children. Because you all turn. Everyone turns against you. It's like, oh, and I'm also planning on my downfall.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. Like, I'm literally planning my own downfall. I'm eating my own grave.

[Chris]

It's very, like, out of body experience.

[Hannah Berner]

And I do think it's important we talk about it. Cause we are like second generation of any women having to deal with this. I called my mom crying when I realized I have deaf kids. I'm not calling my husband crying.

[Chris]

You have to test her. Like, is she gonna. Perfect. She picked up.

[Hannah Berner]

No. But I obviously was like. She's like, how are you? I'm like, good. She's like, are you sure? I'm like, actually. But I basically was crying about, like, that. I think I'm like, might become a mom one day. And I was so confused as to why I was crying. You know when you don't know why you're crying. And then I was, like, looking into it, and they were like, oh, you're grieving your past self. Like, I was literally crying over the death of my identity that I am now, that I still am, but I know I'm gonna lose.

[Chris]

I had a man one time ask to move in together, and I immediately started crying, like, no.

[Hannah Berner]

But it's also. It's not sad. Cause I'm gonna be that. It's just sad that you. You're not gonna be what you were.

[Chris]

You realize that at some point it was gonna be over.

[Hannah Berner]

And it might be 100% better, but it's just still, like, said to lose anything.

[Chris]

It probably will be.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. It's just scary. And I know male comedians whose wife have had a baby, and the next day they're on stage working out material, like, leaving their wife at home.

[Chris]

The same as, like, graduating college. And then you're going into the real world and you're like, it probably will be better, but this is All I know. And what do you mean we don't have a mixer on Friday night? Like, it's just like, it's so Elwoods.

[Hannah Berner]

You're so Elwoods. But you know what? I want to say something positive. It motivates me. Yeah. Like seeing, like, the Ali Wongs and.

[Chris]

Well, it also. It's like, how is there even a debate that, like, men or women, that men are better than women? It's like, guys, we have kids. I actually said this earlier to someone. I can't wait for Gen Z to be at the age where they're having children because they're gonna get some things done. Them with their tight, tight boundaries, and they have a headache. They must leave. I'm so pumped for them to get into the position of, like, people being rude because they're moms or their jobs changing because they're pregnant. Because I can't wait for them to be like, no, no, no, hold on. A man could literally never. So you're not telling me anything?

[Hannah Berner]

Well, yeah. I face this thing where it's like, okay, I can just accept that other male comedians in Stand up will ascend past me after I have kids. But then I stop and I go, actually, no, I'm gonna keep my foot on these bitches necks because it's gonna be difficult and it's gonna be hard. And I am lucky because I have a mom who's gonna help me.

[Chris]

Women can't even post their after baby body without the Internet being like, fuck you. If you post your after baby body and you lost weight, people are like, how dare you? Not the norm. But if you post it and it's didn't lose weight, it's like, well, why don't you think about your health? Like, there's no right thing for women.

[Hannah Berner]

Also, why I feel like female comics are so interesting. Like, why people want to hear Leanne Morgan talk. Because I'm like, I want to hear a woman who's had. Who has three grandchildren and three babies. Yeah. And has dealt with her husband. And, like, that's fascinating to me. Like, I don't want to hear another dude, like, make, like, sly comments about his wife that, you know, is, like, so annoyed with him. Like, you're not. Like, she's annoyed with you. You're not the cool one on stage right now. She's like, oh, he's doing his little jokes. Speaking of boundaries, have you seen TikTok this drama about Solidcore?

[Chris]

Like, a little bit. Do you know that I live right next to a saladcore, which apparently it's like Pilates. I would. I don't even dare look at it.

[Hannah Berner]

Apparently it's Pilates, but, like, super intense. I'm scared. And I'm working on, like, loving myself. So I haven't been going. So this guy who, by the way, needs to get cast in reality tv, like, if someone doesn't cast him, they're bonkers. He's this gay guy in Darien, Connecticut. I first saw him. Cause he was just talking about what the Equinox steam room is like and just talking about how married men were trying to hook up with him the whole time. Which. We have a theme for the pod today.

[Chris]

Wait, the Equinox steam room downtown in Darien, Connecticut. Oh, because the Equinox.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, it's all the equinoxes. Equinox. Everyone's gay. Equinox. He basically was like. This guy fully was, like flirting with him for six months, showing him his dick has a wife. So he shows up to. He clearly loves Solidcore more than anything. And he shows up at solidcore at 6am the instructor's not there, but the door, he has a login. The door's open. He goes in and he's filming it. And he starts giving himself a private lesson at Solidcore. Cause he loves Solidcore. And then the instructor comes in late and they're just laughing. Whatever. He posts the video. Solidcore starts freaking out. Like, can you take it down? His friend messages him.

[Chris]

Wait, why are they freaking out? Cause he was in there by himself.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. And it made. Makes them look unprofessional. And he literally then films a video, being like, fuck you, Solidcore, for, like, telling my friend to tell me to take it down. You're so unprofessional. Goes off. Then next day, shows up at the Solidcore class, the 6am class, filming it. And you hear the lady be like, hey.

[Chris]

That's all I saw. Like, hey, when you said, sorry about the video.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, he goes, sorry about the video.

[Chris]

And then I just heard her say, well, my probation.

[Hannah Berner]

So she was gonna say, well, my probation makes me apologize to you or something. So he's in a full feud with this Cellacor, but he keeps showing up. Cause he loves Solicor so much. He's like, they could punch my mom in the face and I would still show up to the Solicore class. So everyone's like, what is it?

[Chris]

Is it like.

[Hannah Berner]

It's hardcore Pilates.

[Chris]

Okay, so you're not like running or anything?

[Hannah Berner]

No, no, no. It's Pilates, but just like strength training. More intense. Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah. I don't wanna.

[Hannah Berner]

People in the comments are so funny. Cause they're like, I know. I feel like this is a solidcore ad I just can't put. But then everyone's like, I want to have the boundaries and how he's dealing with.

[Chris]

Well, he's not a pleaser.

[Hannah Berner]

He's dealing with conflict so well. But the thing is, he is just. He's a man. Yeah. Which helps. But everyone's just watching how he's walked. Just walks into a class. Like, I would move out of the state. Yeah. If I got. If anyone's mad at me.

[Chris]

Well, because if it was a girl, that would be girl on girl crying.

[Hannah Berner]

Mean girl, mean girl. He's hilarious. He's a star. Put him on reality tv. But yeah, the misogyny of men getting away with so many horrible things and a girl will do one thing that's like off color or like something every girl's done. And we're like, she's a monster. She's a monster.

[Chris]

She's a monster.

[Hannah Berner]

So anyway, you're all perfect. We love you guys so much. We do have some announcements coming up, but just stay posted.

[Chris]

I can't wait to hear them. I guess I'll see it on email.

[Hannah Berner]

Foreign.

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[Hannah Berner]

Sam.