Giggling about gorgina, gossip pits, and jury duty

Summary

Giggly Squad – “Giggling about gorgina, gossip pits, and jury duty”

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: January 16, 2026

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Main Theme

In this lively, self-deprecating episode, Hannah and Paige riff on everything from 2016 nostalgia and pop culture gossip to interior design obsessions and the peculiarities of jury duty. True to their “we can’t be managed” ethos, the duo swaps hot takes on internet drama, Hollywood, mental health, and growing up giggly—moving seamlessly from hilarious personal anecdotes to pointed cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Gorgina, 2016, and Chicago Sports

[02:24-03:51]

• Paige coins the term “gorgina” back in 2016, recalling the craze and how it became a faux name at Starbucks.
• They discuss a viral TikTok theory blaming Chicago sports for a “broken timeline”:
  • “In 2016, the Chicago Cubs won the World Series. That should have never happened. That put us on the wrong timeline.”—Paige [02:52]
• Lighthearted ribbing of different states’ sports allegiances and New York’s sports dominance.

Fashion, Outfits, and the Giggly Squad Motto

[04:33–06:21]

• Both struggle with presenting themselves for the “YouTube-ers.”
• Iconic Giggly Motto unveiled:
  • “The thesis line of Giggly Squad is: do it full on, and if you’re not, don’t do it at all. And we lean with the latter.”—Hannah [05:47]
• Fashion talk: dressing like a “brunette Princess Diana if she wasn’t as regal.”

Golden Globes Recap & Award Show Politics

[06:23–11:15]

• Big love for Nikki and Amy Poehler’s “best podcast” Golden Globe win; speculation that if Amy were a man, “she'd have 10 Netflix specials already.” —Paige [06:33]
• Dissection of award show mechanics—foreign press, critics, and how “no one really knows the difference” between them.
• Noticing a “budget cut” in the Golden Globes venue:
  • “It felt like the ceiling was very low. Like, when they did a full pan of the room, I was like, wait, is this in like a gymnasium?”—Paige [08:11]

Internet Double Standards: Hudson Williams vs. Kylie Jenner

[10:12–11:30]

• Hudson’s playful antics get praised online, while Kylie Jenner is vilified for a similar gesture.
• Quote: “Kylie Jenner gets a casual photo taken... and the comments are like, she’s trash... Her whole family’s horrible... And under Hudson's everyone's just like, this is my king. Protect him at all costs.”—Paige [10:58]
• Exploration of internet negativity and why some thrive on posting hate.

Fashion Opinions, Internet Dichotomy, and Friend-In-Laws

[12:24–14:19]

• Debating Emma Stone’s golden globe outfit and the divisiveness of fashion opinions online.
• Amusing “friend-in-law” banter about being friends with a friend’s friend:
  • “That's my friend in law. That's my literal friend in law.”—Paige [14:19]

On Body Image, Size, and Female Comedians

[15:01–15:45]

• Reflecting on historical attacks on celebrities’ bodies (Jessica Simpson, Amy Schumer), criticizing the narrow standards imposed on women regardless of actual size or appearance.
• “Thank God she’s funny, because if she wasn’t funny, no one would put her anywhere.”—Paige [15:45] (re: Amy Schumer)

Influencer Drama: Divorce, Cheating, and The Anger Economy

[16:16–18:06]

• Discussing a TikTok couple's divorce scandal and how online opinion turns viciously fast.
• Paige critiques "anger economy":
  • “Whoever’s calling people out gets the most views... everyone’s just attacking everyone, and it’s a civil war.”—Paige [17:44]

The Stranger Things Writing Drama & AI in Entertainment

[18:25–21:47]

• Recap of fan theories: decline in “Stranger Things” quality after the showrunner's divorce allegedly deprived him of his ghostwriter wife.
• Hannah expresses concern over AI-scripted shows:
  • “If a show is completely written by ChatGPT... I almost borderline think it should be, like, illegal.”—Hannah [20:20]
• “I’m scared about it. I saw iRobot. That’s all I’m gonna say about that.”—Hannah [21:25]

Jury Duty Antics & Getting Out of Service

[25:39–29:14]

• Listener Ruth Fernandez claims saying “Giggly Squad” is her favorite podcast got her immediately dismissed from jury duty.
• “If you want to get out of jury duty, just say you listen to Giggly Squad.”—Hannah [26:56]
• Hilarious stories about dressing for jury duty and the disappointment of getting stuck on boring cases.

Tell Me Lies & The Relatable Panic Attack Scene

[30:44–32:46]

• Breakdown of a powerful panic attack scene in “Tell Me Lies.”
• Hannah: “She’s having a panic attack because he’s ruining her life. I just think every girl has experienced that. No matter if it’s in your 20s, in your 30s, like a moment where you’re like, what’s going on?” [32:29]

Celebrity Families and Struggle: The Judds

[34:16–39:49]

• Paige narrates the saga of the Judd family: motherhood, ambition, trauma, and struggle behind country music fame.
• Candid discussion of mental health:
  • “She went through really traumatic stuff when she was like, three years old... in her later years, it started just like coming up.”—Hannah [39:53]
• Touches on Ashley Judd’s experience with Harvey Weinstein, making the story both deeply personal and symbolic of broader industry abuses.

Rom-Coms, Female-Driven Movies, Kate Hudson & Goldie Hawn

[40:24–41:25]

• Lamenting the decline of women-focused films and the glory days of rom-coms.
  • “Do you want to know why? Because I genuinely think there were more movies geared toward women. Everything now... is a thriller. I want a cute rom-com.”—Hannah [40:27]

Parenting, Generations, and Tech

[42:16–43:43]

• Hannah and Paige muse about how their generation may parent like the free-wheeling 1990s, and how screen time battles have shifted from TV to smartphones.
• “No, Kim’s biggest worry were the Rugrats. Oh, Angelica wasn’t nice enough.”—Paige [43:01]

Obsession with Lamps, Sconces, and Home Design

[50:05–51:41]

• Long tangent on adult obsessions with lamps, sconces, and interior design:
• “Two years ago, I couldn’t spell sconce. Now I have a Pinterest board of only sconces. And I have opinions.”—Hannah [50:55]
• The gossip pit (sunken living room) is back:
  • “Do you remember the rooms where they just had a gossip, like, pit? Do you know they’re coming back?”—Paige [51:51]

Gen Z Slang: Choppelganger

[54:03–54:44]

• Learning/roasting new Gen Z words (“choppelganger” = ugly doppelganger).
• “Now you just say, like, he’s a chapel ganger of [famous person].”—Paige [54:44]

2016 Nostalgia & Pre-Influencer Life

[56:07–60:16]

• Reminiscing on work-life balance pre-social media dominance.
• “Your job truly was just a job. Once the clock hit 6pm and you were out of there, you were fully in your personal life.”—Hannah [56:30]
• The healing powers of Pinterest for women.
• Hannah’s memory of her first women’s health/motivation Instagram, “Forks and Fitness,” and her journey towards finding meaningful creative work.

Hannah’s Super Bowl Commercial & Taking Over Sports

[60:56–63:23]

• Big announcement: Hannah will appear in a Super Bowl ad for Kinder Bueno.
• “After I got the call and my agent was like, you’re gonna film this commercial... then I thought, what’s an event that all my ex boyfriends will be seated for? Oh, a Super Bowl commercial.”—Hannah [62:36]
• The “Giggly Squad” hooks into sports, vowing to invade traditionally male spaces (Super Bowl, March Madness):
  • “There have been some safe spaces for men, like the Super Bowl. But look, those faces are weaning.”—Paige [63:49]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Full ass or no ass." — Paige [05:42]
• “Kylie Jenner gets a casual photo taken... the comments are like, she’s trash. ...And under Hudson’s everyone’s just like, this is my king. Protect him at all costs.” — Paige [10:58]
• “That’s my friend-in-law. That’s my literal friend-in-law.” — Paige [14:19]
• “If a show is completely written by ChatGPT... I almost borderline think it should be, like, illegal.” — Hannah [20:20]
• “If you want to get out of jury duty, just say you listen to Giggly Squad.” — Hannah [26:56]
• “She’s having a panic attack because he’s ruining her life... every girl has experienced that.” — Hannah [32:29]
• “Two years ago, I couldn’t spell sconce. Now I have a Pinterest board of only sconces.” — Hannah [50:55]
• “Once the clock hit 6pm... you were fully in your personal life. Now, our jobs are so intertwined...” — Hannah [56:30]
• “What’s an event that all my ex boyfriends will be seated for? ...a Super Bowl commercial.” — Hannah [62:36]
• “There have been some safe spaces for men, like the Super Bowl. But look, those spaces are weaning.” — Paige [63:49]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:24] — “Gorgina” and 2016 timeline theory
• [05:47] — “Full ass or no ass”: The Giggly Squad motto
• [06:23–11:15] — Golden Globes/award show commentary
• [10:58] — Double standard: Hudson Williams vs. Kylie Jenner
• [15:01–15:45] — On size, body image, and female comedians
• [16:16] — TikTok influencer divorce drama and the “anger economy”
• [20:20] — AI in entertainment “should be illegal”
• [25:39–29:14] — Giggly Squad listeners using the show to get out of jury duty
• [32:29] — “Tell Me Lies” panic attack scene
• [39:53] — Intergenerational trauma in the Judd family
• [50:55] — Pinterest lamp obsessions and the return of the gossip pit
• [54:44] — Gen Z’s “choppelganger”
• [56:30] — 2016 work/life reflections
• [62:36] — Hannah’s Super Bowl ad revelation
• [63:49] — Women infiltrating “male” spaces like the Super Bowl

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

Giggly Squad’s episode is both a confessional and a critique; its charm lies in the effortless banter and the seamless leap from surface-level giggles to sharp, sometimes vulnerable commentary on fame, femininity, creativity, and mental health. The duo’s playful mockery of trends, their own obsessions, and the shifting sands of internet culture will leave listeners laughing, nodding, and feeling seen.

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Transcript

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[B]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

[A]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[B]

Okay, this was Pages. What's up my Gorgina Gigglers? Yeah, that was actually a thing in 2016. I called everyone Gorgin. Gorgin.

[A]

I think Courtney K started it.

[B]

And then you'd, like, go to Starbucks and say, your name is Gorgina because you wanted them to yell Gorgina.

[A]

Okay, I didn't. I didn't take it that far.

[B]

Wait, what started this whole 2016? Everyone posting their 2016 photos.

[A]

Okay, some girl did a TikTok.

[B]

So it was one girl.

[A]

Girl said, In 2016, the Chicago Cubs won the World Series. That should have never happened. That put us on the wrong timeline. And so they're saying that if the Chicago Bears win the super bowl, we're going to be put back on the timeline. Why everyone's hating on the Chicago team.

[B]

Chicago's like, why are we getting involved in this mess?

[A]

You know what? Since this is a sports podcast, Chicago catching strays. The only time that we, like, keep up with football is, like, when it's about to be the super bowl, which. Oh, I have to tell the gigglers one thing that I always think about, and not just because, like, I've made New York City my personality for the past 10 years. But, sorry, New York is carrying the country on their back. Why do they have so many sports teams? Teams? It's not just like one sports team. It's like they have two in each thing.

[B]

Well, we have. New York has three.

[A]

And then you go a little further down the map. Hey, guys, why don't you pull some weight? Anyone ever gone to a South Carolina football game? I don't think so.

[B]

Well, they're. They're into colleges, like South Carolina, the Gamecocks.

[A]

And that says a lot. And that says a lot. Okay. Yeah, they're college. That actually makes so much sense because that's where they've peaked and stuck, you know? And then it's like, we're like, in New York, we're like, great. That was so cute. In college, here's the professional big league.

[B]

All the South Carolina are like, I just turned this on to enjoy my week. I'm just getting flames.

[A]

Sorry, I have my glasses on today pages outfit.

[B]

You actually are giving, like, aunt. Like, your version of aunt who, like, went to Harvard but then took ayahuasca and her life took a turn for the arts.

[A]

Yes. I was like, I went to. I was pre med. I'm a doctor. And then I found this passion in pottery, and now I make insane bongs. Like, I. Yeah, I have, like, my own weed line.

[B]

You got a drug addiction, but you're pretty, so it looks fashionable.

[A]

So they're like. She's like, heroin Chicago, though.

[B]

No, I'm obsessed with this.

[A]

Well, last Episode. You made me nervous because you were like, we should start doing our outfits. And so then this week I was like, oh, we're doing our outfits. And then I walked in, I go, guess we're not doing our outfit.

[B]

I was going to say I didn't brush my hair for the YouTubers. I would apologize. I didn't brush my hair.

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Well, I put an outfit on actually before. And I was like, I can't. I had to iron it, but I didn't want to. And I was like, I can't wear this. Cuz the gigglers get really upset when.

[B]

They'D rather you just not show up with a crinkle.

[A]

Yeah, they don't want you to half ass it. And I actually agree, like, just don't.

[B]

Just don't just do what I do. They don't have ass either. Full ass or no ass.

[A]

The thesis line of Giggly squad is do it full on and if you're not, don't do it at all. And we lean with the latter.

[B]

But do you know what's sad? This is actually a curated outfit I put together. I was going to wear like a little yoga top, but then I was like, Hannah, Paige can't handle when your boobs are out. She gets very weird. She having all these like, saying, you should do this more. I don't like all the attention. So then I was like, I'm gonna wear this like New York tennis shirt and then do high socks. Like, I want to be like brunette Princess Diana if she wasn't as regal.

[A]

You're a red hen.

[B]

So true.

[A]

Let's just get right into it. Let's talk about the Golden Globes.

[B]

Oh, Nikki. Incredible, incredible, incredible. If she was a man, people would.

[A]

Be like, there would be a statue somewhere.

[B]

She'd have 10 Netflix specials already, like, done the deal. The deal would have been out. She would have been in the Jumanji movie. Or she'd be on every AT&T commercial. Not that she's not doing well, by the way. She's doing incredible.

[A]

What is the celebrity pipeline to phone commercials? There it is. Like, it's always like once you hit AT and T, you know, Jason Bateman does T Mobile. So interesting. Obviously, like Top Line is Amy Poehler queen. Oh, I love that. She won the Golden Globe for best podcast first year. It's a category. Started her podcast 10 months ago based on. I see so many men doing it. Not well. I can do it 10 times better with giving 25% of the effort. And she really did. And now look, Amy is Like a grown adult. She's so sweet, so nice. She. I don't feel like she has a vindictive bone in her body. And I think she's actually said that she has a very good relationship with her ex husband, Will Arnett, who they have two children with. But there had to be a little bit, just a small ounce of now watch me walk up on this stage and accept this award. Something you've been doing for five years now.

[B]

As Italians, we knew what was happening in the room in that moment.

[A]

Beautiful, Beautiful.

[B]

We're dancing in our greats.

[A]

That was art. That was pure art. One thing I do want to point out about the Golden Globes was the budget cut. What was the room? It felt like the ceiling was very low. Like, when they did like a full pan of the room, I was like, wait, is this in like a gymnasium?

[B]

A little comedy club? I do feel like every time there's an award season, it's like the first time I've ever seen an award season.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's the first time I'm like, wait, we just had an award show yesterday. Yeah. Now we're doing another award show today. It makes me feel like movies are just made for this award show run.

[A]

I'm so happy you said that because I had to look up. I literally said, went to Google and I said, the difference between all the award shows, give it to me now.

[B]

No one knows the difference. They're like, these people are voting, but they're just saying different academies. That. I think it's one guy in a booth.

[A]

The Golden Globes are voted on from. No foreign press. Foreign press.

[B]

What is the foreign press?

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So anyone who writes articles about the industry, about the TV shows, about the movies, about the actors, they're voting.

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But it's not the critics choice.

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The critics are different.

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The critics are different than the press.

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The critics are the people, like, of America. The people can vote on the people's.

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And you know what is kind of annoying is that to win the Oscar.

[A]

Which is the Academy, which is the.

[B]

Academy who we apologize for.

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Yeah.

[B]

You have to have like, it's all politics.

[A]

And then the SAG Awards, which I think they renamed to the Actors Awards, that's each. They're voting on each other. So I would say that. I would say that the celebrities probably care. They want possibly about the actor awards.

[B]

They want the Oscar, also the actor awards. They're all just voting for themselves.

[A]

And they say, like, whoever wins the Golden Globe, that's usually like, who will win the Oscar.

[B]

Can I say what's pissed me off. Yeah, I've been holding in.

[A]

Okay, she's finding it.

[B]

Hudson. My sweet, sweet Hudson Williams. Yeah, he's being hilarious. Like, he's running around having fun. He's. Yeah, he's shot into fame, which honestly is so scary. Like, I can't even imagine. And side note, everyone was like, why doesn't Amy Poehler have a. Have a. Why isn't she a late night talk show host? Because podcasts are where it's at, Betty.

[A]

Where it's at.

[B]

You think she wants to go into New York City every day and, well.

[A]

Media'S just changed so much in the past 10 years.

[B]

She wants to have her podcast anyway. I digress. Hudson something. And everyone's like, I love how he's just so free and so whatever. And it's like, because he hasn't had his first, you know, people getting free for six months, be free for a bit. And then you realize, oh, I need.

[A]

To show up on a cancellation in August. Yeah.

[B]

He poses for the glam bot and puts two middle fingers up, which was iconic. Like, put it in the loof. Kylie Jenner gets a. A casual photo taken sitting at the. And puts two fingers up. The comments are like, she's trash. She's horrible. She should be burned at the stake. She's horrible. Her whole family's horrible. Her mother's horrible. Her business is horrible. And under Hudson's, everyone's just like, this is my king. Protect him at all costs.

[A]

Imagine taking the time you see a photo of arguably one of the most famous people in the world, Kylie Jenner. You take the time to. To go to your keyboard and go, what? Trash sent. Sorry, that's so diabolical. Like, look, we have a pot look. Actually, I talk all day long. It's like one of my favorite things to you. In the comfort of my own freaks. Yeah, I'll text my friend. People that, like, talk shit about people, like, consecutively, like, you know, each week, like, they're going to have. They're going to post something negative about someone. Oh, that's got to be such bad energy, like, in your own body.

[B]

I think it's how they feel about themselves.

[A]

Yeah. Do you know how many celebrities that. In my head, I'm like, what? Trash? But I would never say it on the Internet.

[B]

Oh, God. But yeah, I, I didn't. I watched, like, some of the aftermath of it all and I feel like the outfits were fun. I was happy.

[A]

I feel like the. I feel like a lot of people looked really good. It's so funny. One of my favorite outfits was Emma Stone and she was dressed in Louis Vuitton.

[B]

I could see you in that. I could see you.

[A]

I had a lot of girl. It's so funny when you post fashion because it's so split.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's like such a good example of like, wow, the Internet's so, so weird. Cuz the first message is like disgusting. The next one is like, that's the best ever.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I did get so many messages from girls being like, you would like this one.

[B]

And I was like, well, people were like, it looks like a cheese slice. But just it looked cool, girl. It was.

[A]

She looked stunning. Like, I think she's so pretty. It was so funny because. Oh, I don't want to make you mad or anything, but one of your friends DM'd me and we did do a little bit back and forth.

[B]

Which one?

[A]

Your friend Gabby.

[B]

My blonde friend.

[A]

Your blonde friend. So she DM'd me off the Emma Stone picture and she was like something like, oh, I love this one. And I was like, it's so funny. So many people are getting mad at me for posting this. God forbid. I love when an upper bluff is done well and someone's on the right amount of ozempic.

[B]

Like, let me get. Give me a break.

[A]

And so she like said something back that was very funny and we just like had a little bit and I was like, so Hannah's friend is my friend too.

[B]

Well, it's funny because Gabby loves you, but Gabby, like, respects our marriage. Yeah. And also, like, it needs to be like you. I don't know. You guys haven't met in person.

[A]

I know it gets like, kind of weird.

[B]

So Gabby's always like this page. Like me. I'm like, she loves you. It's just you never met.

[A]

Any time I scroll a clip of hers, I always hit a like because I'm like, that's my. I'm supporting my friends.

[B]

It's a family tree.

[A]

That's my friend in law. That's my literal friend in law. And that's like a funny thing when you like meet a friend through a friend, there is that respect of like, that's my friend's friend.

[B]

But also there's a certain kind of friend where you're like, if you hadn't met her first, I would have been your friend too. And I approve of you. Yeah. And. But I just surround myself with hot blondes.

[A]

You're no better than a man. You're no better than a man.

[B]

You're.

[A]

I actually you know what? We give a lot of hate to men, but I'm quite misogynistic. Like, there are so many times where I'm like, you could have put makeup on you. Smile, you know, having a good time.

[B]

I did get on my TikTok. Someone was like, where have all the size 8 gone? Mm. And I said, babe, I've been here. Whatever happened to having some ovaries?

[A]

You know what I always think about? And I want to say it was, like, 2013, and it was Jessica Simpson. I think she had, like, just had a baby, like, a month prior, and they attacked her. And, like, you look at those pictures now and you're like, so she was a size six, you freak.

[B]

There was drama, too, about, like, Amy Schumer when she was doing all those movies. And she was like, I'm the ugly fat girl. And everyone's like, you are beautiful blonde.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Size eight. Yeah. And everyone's like, look at this fat girl who's starring.

[A]

No, it's great.

[B]

Starring in a movie.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Thank God she's funny, because if she wasn't funny, no one would put her anywhere. It's so true. And Amy had to play the like. But that is what Giggly Squad is about. And I hate to say it, and I'm so biased about the gigglers, but it's just a bunch of, like, really hot, funny women who listen to our pod. And I've done the research. I've been in the bathroom. I see who comes in and says hi to me. Someone said that me in public bathrooms is Amy Poehler. Grace reposted to Amy Poehler wearing the Jeremy hat. Anyway, I'll see you guys in the bathroom.

[A]

Anywho, wait. That couple I was talking about last episode that broke up because the husband cheated? They're like a Tick Tock couple. I wasn't, like, fully invested in the couple when they were posting, but I knew of them on Tick Tock Whatever. And she would post cute, like, funny videos of, like, she would go to, like, a shoe store and be like, oh, I'm getting these new shoes. And then she would just, like, run down the aisle and be like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm gonna get, like, stupid little videos. So it comes out that her husband that she's been with since she was 14 years old, they had, like, just done a post that they had been together now longer than they've been apart. They have two kids together, comes out that he had cheated on her. She immediately files for divorce. Like, she's gone. The Internet's like, And women like you should take a page out of her book. That's how you do it.

[B]

You absolutely immediately stop judging how women deal with their men. But anyway, Continue.

[A]

Not a 24 hours later, the Internet had completely, completely flipped on her. Well, she's actually annoying. And her videos were never funny. Imagine being married to her and having to deal with that.

[B]

She's the problem.

[A]

And the women were like, she makes, like, 10 mil a year. I'm sure he was fine laughing in a couple of videos. They have completely flipped on her. And now it's like, well, he probably just, like, got really annoyed and that's why he cheated. So, like, I get it.

[B]

Not as this is our second episode getting messy, but, like, the algorithms are controlling our lives.

[A]

It's so scary.

[B]

And the. When people. People aren't even. I don't think care that much. They just want attention. So when they see someone jumping on a bandwagon, they will post, like, this bad, like, angry take on someone because they know it'll get views. Yeah. So we're in this, like, anger economy of, like, whoever's calling people out gets the most views. And it's like, the next thing you know, everyone's just attacking everyone, and it's a civil war. Okay.

[A]

That's why, like, I love Amy. Happy Friday. Yeah, that's. No, that's why I'm so, so happy. Amy Poehler won the Golden Globe because her hour of her podcast truly is.

[B]

A true Rainbows, lollipops laugh.

[A]

Yes. What's next on the docket?

[B]

I have a lot. Okay, this is gonna piss you off. Have you heard the Stranger Things drama.

[A]

Now, what is it?

[B]

So I haven't watched it.

[A]

I stopped after season one, episode two.

[B]

So, yeah, I stopped after, I think, season two. But I support Millie Bobby Brown, obviously. So the last episode, everyone is like, the last couple episodes. But for sure, the last episode, people are like, it's, like, diabolically bad. Like, the writing season. Yeah. Like, the writing is off. It just seems like a different show. Like, like, worse than, like, Game of Thrones. They were like, oh, I didn't like the decision, but this was like, something was wrong.

[A]

Like, the dialogue was like, that doesn't sound like that character. Yeah.

[B]

So they realize that the writer of the show, who's been, like, considered, like, one of the greatest writers of all time, whatever, in tv, got a divorce.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

From his wife.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

During the time that it still wasn't finished being written, and people are now realizing that she was like, probably, and.

[A]

This is a legend Ghost Writer.

[B]

She was a ghostwriter because I think she's a writer as well. So people are like, it's. They just look at the timelines and they're like, when she left him, he wasn't done writing the show and the show ended like, shit. So what do we do with that information?

[A]

So anyway, if I had a nickel. If I had a motherfucking nickel. Yeah, keep going.

[B]

No, that's it. That's it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Just wanted to piss you off when.

[A]

You were talking about it. I thought you were going to say. Because I then remembered I saw something that people thought it was ChatGPT, which.

[B]

You know, we can add that to the flame.

[A]

The only writer that I acknowledge is shined up Shonda fucking Ryan. Like, I'm sorry if that many shows can come out of one human. She is my Chat GPT.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I think that, that. How do you. We've never talked about this. Let's get into some fintech. How do you feel about, like, if there's like, AI actresses or like, if a show is completely written by Chat GPT? Like, I almost borderline think it should be, like, illegal.

[B]

Well, it's just really depressing. And I come from, like, the creative background where a lot of the comics were like, well, they'll never replace humor. They never place humor. But these are getting smart. Like, they're. They're getting smarter every.

[A]

Except then they're also super dumb. Like, there's a video clip going around that if you ask Chat GPT like to spell strawberry, it spells it wrong.

[B]

Well, because it's pulling from sources from humans and humans aren't smart. Smart.

[A]

And it. And it goes based off.

[B]

It's algorithmic. Yeah.

[A]

So, like, it learns you. So it knows what to say. It's very, very manipulative.

[B]

It starts to tell you what you want to hear.

[A]

Well, and that's why men are getting in relationships with them. So that. Then that's not a myth.

[B]

I'm. I'm scared about it.

[A]

I'm scared about it.

[B]

We're scared about it. I saw iRobot. I mean. Yes. That's all. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Also, we did.

[A]

And then they. And then they're gonna think they're gonna start making them look like Megan Fox. Get the out of my home. Literally. You think I'm bringing in a Megan Fox AI bot into my home?

[B]

Also, Megan Fox better get her money for that. If they're using her facial.

[A]

Well, that, like, they made that movie. I mean, she played it.

[B]

But like, Sorry, I missed that one.

[A]

That's okay.

[B]

I was. There's also that's okay.

[A]

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[B]

Wait. A Giggler messaged me and just said, I don't know if this is true, but she said to me that she was getting jury duty and you know where they asked like questions.

[A]

Did you get. I screenshotted it. I screenshotted it.

[B]

I screenshot it too.

[A]

And I DM'd her back. I was like, I'm crying. Okay, so Giggler, dm, Dustin goes, hey, funny story. I got jury duty. And they, they ask you a series of questions. And one of the questions was, what was your. What's your favorite podcast? She's a giggly. Squad immediately dismissed. I think you're too powerful.

[B]

Shout out Ruth Fernandez. Who said it?

[A]

Do you want to know? Okay. Have you ever had your duty?

[B]

Yeah, I got dismissed.

[A]

Have you ever had jury duty?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I've only ever had it one time. I was also dismissed. But it's the, it's not the people. It's not the government that picks up.

[B]

It's the lawyers, the law.

[A]

The opposite. What is that? The defendants. They are picking the jury, not the prosecutor.

[B]

So I wonder, puts on glasses, suddenly knows law and order.

[A]

Well, I got out of it because my. I said, my brother is A lawyer, and he works for the people. And so I am biased toward that. Whatever. Got me right out of there.

[B]

If you want to get out of jury duty, just say you listen to Giggly Squad.

[A]

I wonder if they know, like, Giggly Squad is so. So anti. Like, men. If the case was like, something with, like, it's obviously, it was probably a guy. They commit 100% of the crimes. And so I wonder if they were like, no, she's so pro Women.

[B]

I don't know. But it just made me really proud. Same.

[A]

I read it in my, like, bed the other night, and I was like, that's beautiful. And also, there's no better feeling than getting dismissed from jury duty. You're like, see you later. Everyone goes.

[B]

And then everyone goes, how do I get out of it? And then you feel like you're in some kind of, like, Jumanji.

[A]

Yeah. And I called every lawyer I freaking knew when I got jury duty.

[B]

Like, what do I do when I got jury duty? Is I had an hourly job. Yeah. So when they were like, okay, you have to be here for two weeks for, like, 100 bucks. I was like, I'm actually losing money. But then I. I feel like they.

[A]

Should round up all the male loneliness, make them the. Put them to work. They're the. That's camaraderie.

[B]

But then there's people with jobs who, like, they can't just leave for two weeks.

[A]

It's also, people are like caretakers. Like, they really can't leave. Like moms. But then who is watching the kids?

[B]

Every now and then there's a case that, you know, you're like, this is going to be good. And I'm sad.

[A]

On that note, one time, my eyelash lady had jury duty. And let me tell you, that couple of weeks of getting my eyelashes done. No teeth.

[B]

No teeth.

[A]

Like I've ever heard before. And funnily enough, she was doing a juror case for a murder. Okay. She's now, this is highly illegal. She's telling me and my mom all of it. My mom goes, wait a second. I think I know that guy. My mom knew the guy randomly who was on trial for. For murder.

[B]

Well, Kim runs in some sketchy circles.

[A]

I'm pretty sure he, like, murdered his. Murdered his wife.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In jail.

[B]

I mean, my mom, like, called someone.

[A]

She's like, you're never going to get. And that was my introduction to jury dude.

[B]

This is my thing, though. When I had jury dude, and it was literally, like, some guy, like, probably, like, didn't give the book Back to the library in time. I'm like, I'm not staying here for this shit. I want murder. I want cults.

[A]

No.

[B]

My New York kidnapping, my New York.

[A]

City one was crazy. It was like a. An assault on, like, an old lady, this guy. And they lived in the same building. It was a really crazy case. And I was like. Wanted to know what ended up happening, but I was like, I got to go. But I will say in jury, when I went. When I did jury duty, and this was probably, like, five, six years ago, I was very unimpressed by the way the people dressed. I was like, guys, this is the one chance we get.

[B]

We're sitting on mahogany.

[A]

I'm like, guys, Reese Witherspoon is somewhere really disappointed in all of you On Disney display. No, it's like, we're cosplaying. Like, do it for a couple days.

[B]

Do you want to hear something so embarrassing? I was like, I'm literally going back to time my jersey. I was, like, 24, 25, and I guess I might have had a boyfriend at the time. And I got to jury duty and realized I hadn't taken my birth control that morning. And it was that time in your life where you think that, like, even if you have protected sex, you're gonna have a baby. Turns out much more complicated to get pregnant.

[A]

Turns out now you actually need a needle. You need to inject yourself with some.

[B]

Yeah, I realize that I'm, like, locked in this place, and I, like, was freaking out that I needed my birth control, and I started to, like, potentially have a panic attack because I was like, I'm gonna get pregnant because I'm forced to be in this law building during, and they're not gonna let me out. And I almost went to Top to be like, I have to get birth control. But then I was like, fuck it. I'll just have a teen pregnancy at 24. Yeah. And. But I didn't get pregnant. Oh, good to tell everyone.

[A]

We're so happy. Wait. Speaking of having a panic attack, I know you tried to watch Tell me Lies and you couldn't get through it.

[B]

Do you want to tell them why?

[A]

Why?

[B]

I watched only 10 seconds. I just didn't think he was cute.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Hannah didn't think Steven was hot enough.

[B]

But I don't know his personality yet. I know he's, like, a douche, so.

[A]

I told you, it gets. He gets so much hotter because he lies to everyone. Yes.

[B]

See, I'm in this place where I'm like, he. I don't like His. I don't like it. You don't like that they're dating in real life? Is that what makes it like even like more. More depth or people?

[A]

No, you don't really think about it when. Because, like, when the first season came out, you didn't know they were dating in real life. I don't think.

[B]

Oh, they dated before the show.

[A]

I think they started dating, like, also.

[B]

Let'S be honest, anyone who's dating someone on a show, like in the storyline, they're actually dating, they tell their partners they're not. You're fully method acting dating someone.

[A]

It is funny to watch him in interviews because he does seem so nice.

[B]

So nice.

[A]

Like it. Like he could not be more opposite. But in the new season, if you haven't watched it, clip through this because I'm going to do some spoilers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The first three episodes are out of the third season. In one of the episodes, Grace, she plays a character, her name's Lucy, is having a panic attack, but she doesn't know what it is. And it's the way she acted. It was so spot on. I actually had to turn the volume down because I was like, oh. I actually can't listen to her right now because I'm getting like. She's like, oh, something's weird. Like, my hands are. My hands are numb. She's like in my chest.

[B]

And I'm like, oh, my God.

[A]

She's having a panic attack because he's ruining her life. And it's was such. I mean, like, I just think every girl has experienced that. No matter if it's in your 20s, in your 30s, like a moment where you're like, what's going on?

[B]

Yeah. And you're like, what's. Where's this coming from? And it's like, oh, everything.

[A]

Well, I did drugs two days ago. Maybe. Maybe it's that. Maybe it's like coming out of my. And you think of all these different things and you're just like, hey, babe, you're ruining your life.

[B]

You're not depressed. It's the man in your phone.

[A]

And this season is particularly fudge up. Like, Stephen plays a really like. But you know, a guy like that.

[B]

Which is even with a V or a ph.

[A]

Ph.

[B]

Don't like that at all. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, see, I prefer over V. Well.

[B]

Is it Stefan or Steven?

[A]

Well, I would say that's with an F. Stefan. Stefan. You know, male names in general are like.

[B]

It's.

[A]

I've. It's hard. I feel like. Do you get a lot of gigglers? DM you about baby names?

[B]

Not one.

[A]

Really? Because I would say it once a week, going, send me some other inspo. No, I'm not loving that.

[B]

Wait, you asked them to send you baby names?

[A]

No, they send me a list, and they're like, of these four, what are your favorites?

[B]

Oh, for them naming their child.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. No, I have a guy, and, like, that's a.

[A]

Like a. I would say. I'd say 14% of my DMs is being like, I don't love that middle name. With that first, I do get a.

[B]

Lot of, what should I name this kitten?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, Oreo, obviously. Or like, Mr. Mister. You know, something insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, loafer. That's what you name it.

[A]

Wait, that's adorable.

[B]

Just think of a random noun. Yeah. Hashtag hash brown. I actually watched a insane documentary about the Judd family. Oh. Are you familiar with the lore of the Judd family?

[A]

I'm a little bit familiar with the Judds.

[B]

So there's the mom. Yep. Had a different name. Mm. But then she changed her name. What is her name? It's something gorgeous.

[A]

Winona.

[B]

Nope, that's the daughter.

[A]

Oh. Ashley's the other daughter.

[B]

And then we'll insert it right here. Oh.

[A]

What?

[B]

It's like, Naomi.

[A]

Yeah, Naomi.

[B]

Okay, so we got Naomi and Wiona.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, so Naomi gets pregnant at 18, and her mother.

[A]

With Winona.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And her mother. And she's not married. Her mother locks the door, and it's basically like, you're not welcome in this house. You've had a baby out of wedlock. So she doesn't.

[A]

Because they're from, like, Texas, right? They're from somewhere in the South.

[B]

Yeah. But she's, like, not really into this guy who she got pregnant with, but instead, she's like, okay, I guess I have to marry this guy. So she marries this guy, and she's not even, like, that into him, and she wants to be a movie star, but she's like, I just got pregnant. 18. Like, this fudgeing sucks. And then she gets pregnant again, as you do back in the day, and then she has Ashley.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then she divorces this guy. She's like, I hate you. Yeah, but they moved to la.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She meets another abusive boyfriend, gets out of it, but she realizes that Wynonna's amazing at singing, so she, like, full. She's like, the moment. And she's like, I'm gonna get this girl famous. She's our ticket out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she goes to Nashville And. But Wynonna is opposite of her. Wynonna's not into the glam, into the attention. She just happens to be a freakishly good singer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they, like, sing, which.

[A]

The mom was good, too. Yeah. Right. Okay.

[B]

What happens is, like, Wiona gets no press or accolades, no accolade, no anything. Yeah. And. But Naomi's knocking down doors, and she's gorgeous, and she's like, my daughter is going to be the greatest. Somehow people hear them singing together because sometimes they sing together and they're like, we want you two together. So they become this, like, massive duo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because no one's ever seen a mother, daughter. And they also, like, look the same.

[A]

Yeah. Redhead.

[B]

Two red redheads. And they're spectacular. Meanwhile, Ashley Judd is just kind of left in a hotel room while this is happening. And Ashley is, like, very depressed. What?

[A]

How old is ashley? When?

[B]

Like, 16.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So she's, like, alone in a hotel room, and the other two are trying to, like. But in Naomi's mind, she's like, I need to support my family. And Ashley's like, I don't have a family right now.

[A]

I can't name one Ashley Judd movie. But I can picture them.

[B]

I.

[A]

There was a period of time where I feel like she was in everything. I loved her.

[B]

So she couldn't sing. Yeah. Which I. I feel connected with because my mom's a great singer, and everyone's like, why don't you sing with your mom? And I'm like, yeah, not happening. So Ashley Judd could have joined the family thing, but she can't sing. So then she's like, I'm gonna be an actress. And she, like, becomes a huge Hollywood actress. Winona and the mom are getting, like, huge. So as a family, this became, like, huge. But actually, the T is, apparently Ashley Judd said no to Harvey Weinstein and he her career.

[A]

Well, wow, that's so interesting. Say I. Why did.

[B]

She was at the top of her career. Yeah.

[A]

I feel like late 90s. No, probably like mid all of the 90s.

[B]

It was the classic. She had a meeting with him at some office. They go, oh, he canceled. Can you meet him at his hotel? She goes, okay. She gets the hotel. Like, what restaurant are we meeting at? They're like, just go to his room. She goes to his room and she ends up, like, getting out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, the damage was done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he obviously was like, well, you're not cooperating. Yeah. But fast forward, Naomi. The mom starts having, like, really bad panic attacks and depression. And just like, this is Kind of dark.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Sorry. I'm taking you on a world. Sorry, guys. We started having so much fun.

[A]

I've been. I've been. Actually, I've been meaning to tell you this.

[B]

Her whole life, all she wanted to do was be in the. The Country Music hall of Fame. And she gets asked and then, like, the day before she does it, what year was that? In the 90s or the early 2000s?

[A]

Naomi died in 2022.

[B]

Oh, she just died.

[A]

She just died. But just. But she committed suicide.

[B]

But what happened is. And I want to speak on her as like, oh, that's so sad. She's so strong. She finds out Winona Judd is still alive.

[A]

She's 61.

[B]

Yeah. Through, like, therapy and stuff, she finds out that she was. She went through really traumatic stuff when she was like, three years old. And she never dealt with it. So like, in her later years, it started just, like, coming up and she started just having, like, all these panic attacks of, like, suppressed stuff.

[A]

Where the Heart is. That's the movie I couldn't think of the name of. Ashley. Have you ever seen that with Natalie Portman and Ashley Judd?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, it's one of the best movies.

[B]

That was such a time of movies movies.

[A]

Do you want to know why? Because I genuinely think there were more movies geared toward women. Like, everything now when you go. That's why I'm like, it's so annoying. I don't watch movies. I feel like as much everything on, like, Amazon is like a thriller. Like, I'm like, I don't want a thriller. I want, like a cute rom com.

[B]

Well, yeah, Rom coms were at their height.

[A]

Yeah, they were at their peak.

[B]

They're at their peak. But anyway, that's why I feel like.

[A]

I'm so obsessed with Kate Hudson.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because like, when I think Kate Hudson, I think fun and like, rom comy.

[B]

And she is hilarious. People don't talk about how she's so funny.

[A]

People don't talk about how funny she is. And people don't talk about. People don't talk enough about Goldie Hawn and Curry Russell. They just don't discuss them enough.

[B]

No.

[A]

Never been married or to each other. And together the longest couple, literally, in.

[B]

History of the world. And they stay out of the limelight.

[A]

Stay out of the limelight. They live in Aspen. They have.

[B]

They live in Aspen. Yes.

[A]

They're very chic, honey. They have, like, massive, like, big winter parties. Oh.

[B]

For Pfaffer offer. But overall, just to wrap, the Judd family is like, a very inspirational, beautiful story of Motherhood and the connection of your mother and daughters and how your mom, it's her first time living too.

[A]

No, whenever I see that like, and don't forget it's your mom's first time living too. It makes me really sad. Cuz like you think about all the times you're like, mom, you're annoying. You know how everything is like cyclical.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I do feel like our generation specifically like, and not even generation, I mean like 33 to 30, like seven. I feel like us being parents is gonna be very 90s.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I don't care what you do. Go.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, I feel like that's gonna be the vibe.

[B]

You have to teach your kids how to self soothe. Well, like so you see all these.

[A]

Things where it's like screen time, screen time, iPad, blah, blah, blah, whatever.

[B]

We're going back to flip phones.

[A]

And then you see all these parents being like, no, like side and no phone and all of that stuff. I can't imagine how hard it is to be a parent of like a tween right now. Like 13 to 6.

[B]

Oh, but no phones is like definitely getting back. So it's kind of like how when we were growing up, TV was like the evil.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where now people are like, get off your phone, Watch tv. Like, just watch tv. Stop looking at your phone.

[A]

No. Kim's biggest worry were the Rugrats. Oh, Angelica wasn't nice enough.

[B]

Well, Buck, when my mom would be like, oh, you can't watch Wishbone. I'm like, it's an educational show. And she's like, you're not watching TV right now. Go outside.

[A]

Loved Wishbone.

[B]

We also, sometimes we'd only be able to watch TV on the weekends in the morning, and then we had to run around like weekend morning we could watch.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I don't remember. I don't remember my mom ever being like, no, go play. Like you wanted to play.

[B]

Oh, yeah. You know, but also I remember because my parents were kind of strict with tv. Like that was what they would take away. Yeah.

[A]

When I'd like you live now as an adult with no TV in your bedroom.

[B]

I didn't know you were allowed to.

[A]

So they did. They must have done something right.

[B]

I really didn't know you were allowed to. But I remember I'd like go to my on Fridays in, what was this, like elementary school where you'd go to rent a movie and you're like, tonight we're watching. And it was like. Or I'd go to my, like, pick up my friend in the morning. And we'd watch TV together like Saved by the Bell or like.

[A]

Well, I was never a morning tv.

[B]

It was like you get in a little. A little person, you little snort in the morning of something naughty. Wait, can I say a celebrity couple that isn't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Talked about enough.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Enrique and Glacius and Anna Cornova. How have they been able to stay out of the press?

[A]

Yeah. Where are they?

[B]

So when anyone says, oh, the. The press just love them. Anna Cornova, the most beautiful, most talented woman in the world. And Enrique Iglesias, the most beautiful, most talented man in the world who's so beautifully could be a woman. They're together.

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Yeah. But I think they're married and have kids.

[B]

Yeah. And what do they like? A peaceful life. I feel like they would live in Miami.

[A]

I feel like they would live in Florida too. Or tennis all year round.

[B]

Who knows?

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One thing I wanted to say when we were talking about country music because this was so giggly squad coded. Did you know that? What's the theater we played in Nashville?

[B]

Oh, we played in the Grand Grand Old Grand Old Opry. Grand Ole Opry.

[A]

They threw Dolly Parton a birthday party and they said, hey, we're gonna throw we're gonna have it here at the very prestigious.

[B]

It's the most famous theater in all.

[A]

Of Nashville and for all of country music.

[B]

She said, my show, Nashville started at the Grand Olper.

[A]

Yeah. And it's like, very, very big deal. Dolly Parton goes amazing. Thank you for having that party. I certainly won't be there, but have the best ever. And I just feel like that is so. Like, if I could predict what the giggles are going to be like when they're in their 80s, it's that it's like, oh, my God, thank you so much for the recognition. I'm certainly not going to be there. Have the best time.

[B]

It's so badass that, you know, you don't have to be there and people would still be excited to go to a party just with your name on it. Like, she's like, you can celebrate me, but I'm. I'm good, but thank you.

[A]

I love that. I'm like, I feel like I'm gonna start doing that for my birthday. I'm just gonna be. I'm just gonna throw parties for my birthday and watch it on Instagram.

[B]

Well, that was my favorite dinner. When I threw a dinner and then I didn't show up because my. I had a scratchy throat.

[A]

Right. Right.

[B]

And everyone sent me photos and I said, please stop sending me photos from the event. Thank you. I know I'm getting older because I'm very into lamps. Yeah. And the algorithm knows.

[A]

Yeah. Nothing like a good lamb.

[B]

And they know I'm. It's like porn. Where, like, at first you're like, this is cute. And then you're like, I need to see some crazy. Like, they know not to show me normal lamps anymore. I need some, like, chrome. Mid mid century modern. I need some weird bases. I need some, like, abstract. I need some crazy shit. I've.

[A]

I'm gonna be honest. I've.

[B]

I've.

[A]

I've sensed this day coming with you because you. You love vintage, you love thrifting, you love, like, oh, I'm gonna, like, run into this little store. But now we're getting older. You're needle pointing. You're like, you're going to dinner at 5pm with your husband. It was a matter of time until you said, hey, check out this end table. This will really put you in a coma.

[B]

Like, two years ago, I couldn't spell sconce. Now I have a Pinterest board of only sconces. And I have opinions. I didn't know what a sconce was. Do I know how to put it together. No. That was intimidating for me.

[A]

Sconces will change.

[B]

The whole room will change the room.

[A]

Don't get me started on my crown molding in my. In my apartment, because it's a gen. A true work of art.

[B]

You know what's amazing about a light? It not only brings so much value to the home and the ambiance, but it also is fully a design piece. It's two in one.

[A]

I'm very. I love, like, the 60s era. I love 60s fashion. Like, anything. Like Palm Royale. Like Kristen Wiig, that show.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I love that. I love mini skirts. I love boots.

[B]

Like, yes.

[A]

I love big hair like that. And I love, like, the Mad Men, the decorations. Like, I love when a room looks like 70s.

[B]

I love 70s. Do you remember the rooms where they just had a gossip, like, pit.

[A]

Pit. Do you know they're coming back?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because they actually said our generation brought back interior designers that, like, it had, like, fallen off a little, was, like, really only for the rich at one point. And our generation has made it, like, like, no. We really care about our home.

[B]

But I do have to say, I think there is somewhere in the marketplace, because as someone who's, like, dabbled in looking at interior design, it's hard, expensive. And then also it's. It's like, styling, where it's, like, super expensive. Plus, like, obviously, you have your own taste. Yeah. So, like, it's so expensive to possibly not like it. And I know so many people who are, like, adults who've had, like, bad experiences with it. Yeah. But I want those. I feel like there's an opportunity for, like, a girl who's, like, doing well in her 30s financially, to be able to hire an interior designer that isn't, like, for, like, millionaires.

[A]

Yeah. Well, because it's such an art.

[B]

Yeah. And it really. I just, like, I would love just someone's taste because I know what I like, but I don't know how to put it together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm like, yes, that's perfect. But if someone's like, start from scratch. I like. I'm like, I like lamps. Yeah. But once you start seeing lamps, you can't unsee it. And one bad lamp can ruin a room. This is like how you talk about someone's, like, shoe. That's how I speak about lamps.

[A]

A shoe really can ruin a whole entire outfit.

[B]

You go, as we can see here, as we've learned today, actually, these are my Lululemon shoes.

[A]

They're so cute. I like those sneakers.

[B]

They're very comfortable.

[A]

I was just going to say something. Shoot. What were we talking about before your lamps? Before we got on that riveting conversation? This is being in your 30s with your friend. Like, oh, my God, forgot to tell you. Saw a lamp the other day.

[B]

Am I crazy for liking this lamp, or do you like this lamp too?

[A]

Like, 10 years ago, it'd be like, what is my career now?

[B]

What is my job? I did learn a new word the Gen Z's are saying.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Chapel ganger.

[A]

Spell it.

[B]

No. Okay, perfect. So choppelganger is like chop. So it's a thing.

[A]

Chop.

[B]

I would C, H, O, P. I'd love to use this. Smart builds. Like, she's chopped. I think it might mean ugly or bad.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, they're chopped.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So choppelganger basically is like a doppelganger if it's like the ugly version. So, like, you know, you'll see, like, a guy and you're like, oh, he's the Walmart version of Glenn Powell. Or like, he looks like Pedro Pascal if he was microwaved. Now you just say, like, he's a chapel ganger of.

[A]

Gen Z. Needs to hit the box.

[B]

Me, I just could. Chapel gang. Or I guess. But, you know, it is.

[A]

It's too much of a.

[B]

Because they don't. They don't come up with words for. I think day to day, they come up with it for Instagram captions like, slay is, like, fun on Instagram caption, but saying slay all day, slay all the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it doesn't.

[A]

If I want to take myself seriously. I can't say slay in a normal conversation of someone that's. I have to read the room. Like, I can't go up to my doorman and be like, slay. You know, I could, but I'm gonna. I would like to be taken slightly seriously sometimes.

[B]

Fashion is funny, though, where, like, they love a word that means, like, I. You know, like, everyone was saying major, like, in 2019. Yeah.

[A]

That was like, the Rachel Zo effect had a really big impact on us. Actually, Tinks made a tick tock the other day talking about, like, trends in general and how, like, the 2016 S&US trends would last so much longer. She was saying how, like, you'd wait for your favorite influencer to post and then you would look up, like, the bathing suit they were wearing. And it was such a different time. Yeah, I feel like we need to get back to that. Like, the trends can't change so quickly.

[B]

Where Were you in 2016?

[A]

Not a good place. 2016. I lived here for, like, a full year. Lived in New York City for a full year. I was having the best time of my life. I was going out. And, like, you want to know what it was at that time, your job truly was just a job.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you went Monday through Friday. Once the clock hit 6pm and you were out of there, you were fully in your personal life. Like, now our jobs are so intertwined with our personal life that I feel like we get like, a snippet of being able to, like, go out on a Saturday night like, once a month.

[B]

Yeah. But then you still feel like, should I be posting or people posting all.

[A]

I cared about at work all week. Once it hit Monday, I was like, and what am I wearing Thursday night for drinks? Let me go on Pinterest.

[B]

Now, that's amazing.

[A]

Somebody said that Pinterest was possibly going away. And to that, I say a lot more murder per capita with women. I mean, I don't know. That's the only thing that comes.

[B]

You don't have Pinterest.

[A]

Do you know how many times I've written up those angry text messages in my notes and said, you know what? I'm just gonna go on Pinterest. It's gonna be better.

[B]

90 of serial killers are men because women can post quotes on Pinterest.

[A]

And we can regulate. We can regulate our emotions. We can. We have enough deduction and reasoning to be like, that's crazy. Let me step away.

[B]

In 2016, I was working for a T shirt company, and there were like, four people working, like, it was like a startup. And I really was like, this is.

[A]

When you were like, cold calling.

[B]

This was after cold calling sales. Because I was like, I can't do the cold calling anymore. I want to do something creative. So I was, like, doing marketing, I guess. But my job was basically customer service. People would be like, where's my T shirt? And I'd be like, have you looked next door? And they're like, no. And I'm like, okay, I'll send you another one. Like, that's what I did. But I would pitch the. The founder who's sitting next to me, like, all these, like, marketing ideas. And he basically, like, wouldn't listen to them. And then one day I was like, I've been here for a year. Like, can I get a raise of some kind of. And he was like, no. And then I was like, okay, I think I'm gonna quit. Because, like, this isn't going anywhere.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he looks at me and he Was like, you know, because I was under 26. And he's like, if you had threatened to, like, make me pay health insurance, I would have given you more money. He said something so, like, diabolical where, like, I just felt like such a non. Human. Yeah. Like just such an entity. Yeah. And then I started. I started an Instagram called Forks and Fitness because it is fnf, you know.

[A]

Where is this sticker?

[B]

I think it might have. It might still exist.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it also might have. I've definitely been logged out of it. But, like, occasionally I'll get an email, like a fake company being like, can we promote with Forks and Fitness? I had, like, 200 followers, but I was doing sports modeling, so it'd be like me posting, me playing sports because I wanted to show that women could be strong.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I showed, like, smoothie recipes, and then I did motivational quotes.

[A]

No. My shame.

[B]

No. That is so sweet.

[A]

Are you gonna say something? I'm gonna cry.

[B]

Because I wanted to show women being healthy and powerful because that's all I knew. And I was like, see? You could be strong. And I was like, pitching. I was like, we need more women health moments. Yeah. But it was funny because that's so, like, lost sounding. But, like, literally in a year, I was telling people, I want to do video. I want to get into sports broadcasting. And the next, you know, I got my job at Batches doing, like, video. Yep.

[A]

But, you know, 2016 was, like, such a crazy.

[B]

See, 2017 was when I had my. My, like, relationship that, like, gave me panic attacks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So 2016 was, like, my last year of, like, fun. Of being a baby.

[A]

Freedom before.

[B]

And then I'm just like, a man could ruin your mental health.

[A]

You don't pick the wrong one. You really don't.

[B]

Yeah. We're at 2016. I was like, does anyone want to experience life with me?

[A]

And then 2018, we met, and the world's never been the same.

[B]

World's never been the same. Wait. Yeah.

[A]

I meant to say this in the beginning of the pod Classic.

[B]

Just remembered. Let's start over.

[A]

Let's start over. Let's redo it. We were talking about the Super Bowl. I'm going to be in a Super bowl commercial, which you already know, but I want to tell the Gigglers. And it was so. Well, first when I got the call, I was like, guys, this is insane. What is the brand like? What is it for? And it's for Kinder Bueno. Like, chocolate. And it's so serendipitous. Because when you go home to my parents house, if you're staying at our home, if you're staying in like one of the guest rooms in on your nightside bed table, there will always be snacks.

[B]

Yes, I've seen it.

[A]

One of three snacks. There's either Nutella Little Bites or Cookies.

[B]

Ferrero Rocher.

[A]

Ferrero Rochers or Kinder Bueno. Now the funny part of this is my mom doesn't know that they're all owned by the same company.

[B]

Well, she has taste.

[A]

She, she purely just has taste.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

They're also an Italian company, so low key. I think they were like, who can we tap in America? That like gives us the energy? So anyway, so I filmed a commercial for the Super Bowl. I'm so excited. I actually haven't seen fully seen it yet. But like I think the announcement is coming out today. I in one line, wait how long.

[B]

It like what is the. Are you allowed to say any of the premise?

[A]

I don't know what I'm allowed to.

[B]

I don't want to get you in trouble yet.

[A]

But it's. I want to say it's like a 30 second. Yeah, I'm like a very short part but like very exciting. So who did you do it with that I don't think I can say.

[B]

Oh, okay, that's exciting. Yes.

[A]

I will say like what? It'll just be, it'll be fun.

[B]

That's the same everyone. Have a Kinder Bueno.

[A]

Have a Kinder Bueno. And I will say after I got the call and my agent was like, you're gonna film this commercial? I was so excited. And then I thought, what's an event that all my ex boyfriends will be seated for?

[B]

They'll be watching.

[A]

Well, how can I harness all that energy? Oh, a Super bowl commercial.

[B]

I do have to say I think the next step for me and you is really infiltrating sports. It's been a sports podcast for the.

[A]

Last couple of years.

[B]

I also just want to throw something out there. I do believe I'm going to be involved with something with March Madness, which I know the men love. So let's just say people are going to be pissed.

[A]

People are going to be real, real mad. And by people, I mean the men.

[B]

Yeah, I mean about six or seven men that have crossed through my list.

[A]

Of seven men that I can't wait.

[B]

You know, it's going to be an awkward conversation for someone that night.

[A]

I'd actually like to throw them all in a group chat together and say, have at it. How have Your lives all significantly gone down.

[B]

It is the classic Lady Gaga quote where it's like, wherever you go, you will see me. And some. There have been some safe spaces for men, like the Super Bowl.

[A]

Right?

[B]

But look, those faces are weaning.

[A]

But hey, I wasn't getting the full.

[B]

Gusto I needed of the Bravo.

[A]

Yeah. And I needed to really twist it this year. Last year I was just knifing. This year I'm really cranking it. So I'm excited. Oh, well, anyway, and that's where we'll end. That was a good mental health moment.

[B]

So anyone use this as motivation to piss someone off? We love you so much. Have an amazing week. Oh, also, I'm going to Idaho today. Like, I have to leave this pod to go on my flight. Idaho. Oh, my God. I have a run. Idaho. Four places in Colorado, la, San Francisco, Seattle. I gotta run. We're back. We're back to work.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Love you guys. Bye. Hey, it's Raj and Noah. And we're back with a new season of Am I Doing It Wrong? The show that explores the all too human anxieties we have about trying to get our lives right.

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