Giggling about intuition, drag queens, and getting fired

Summary

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Giggly Squad – Episode Summary

Episode: Giggling about intuition, drag queens, and getting fired

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: March 3, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and vulnerable episode, Hannah and Paige dive into the chaos of their past week – sharing hilarious mishaps, behind-the-scenes stories from big professional moments, and unfiltered reflections on mental health, womanhood, and intuition. The duo candidly dissects pop culture, generational work habits, and reality TV, while also celebrating the power of female friendships and support systems. Along the way, they explore what it really means to trust your gut, process professional setbacks, and survive in a world that judges women more harshly – all while keeping each other (and listeners) giggling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Event Emotional Dump & Best Friend Therapy

• [01:06–04:51] Both hosts reveal they’re emotionally spent after an intense, event-filled weekend: Hannah filmed her comedy special, while Paige hosted Netflix’s live Actor Awards coverage.

  • "There were so many things that I could have burnt down the entire city for. And it's really like, oh, I actually just needed to, like, talk to my best friend." – Paige [02:17]
  • They discuss the importance of talking to girlfriends versus partners or family.

• [02:56–03:05] Paige highlights how only her best friend “gets her,” which sets the tone for a candid, supportive girl talk.

2. Absurd Schedules, Supportive Gestures & Butt Pads

• [03:17–05:54] Hannah and Paige swap stories of mutual support, like texting encouragement before big events – with the running joke that, coincidentally, they were both getting massages while the other was working under pressure.

  • "I was nervous to tell you that I wasn’t able to watch the majority of it because I was getting a massage, which is so fucking selfish of me." – Hannah [04:39]

• [05:10–07:38] Their playful banter reveals how differently they approach work, fashion, and attention (Paige jokes about needing endless photos; Hannah runs from the camera).

• [10:05–10:56] Paige admits she chose not to wear the famous “butt pad” for her red carpet outfit, deeming it unflattering – both joke about how absurd celebrity styling can be.

3. Anxiety, Growth, and Coping on Stage

• [11:01–12:18] Paige details how her nerves before going live for two hours weren’t as bad as expected, a sign of personal growth:

  • "None of my typical anxiety things that happened to me happened. So I was so proud of myself for that. I was like, wow. It took me a full fucking year to reset my nervous system..." – Paige [11:41]

• [21:17–22:27] Hannah shares her own history of performance anxiety as a stand-up, and how exposure therapy helped her conquer her fears:

  • "The only way to conquer your fears is to do it. And then your brain learns, like, oh, this isn't something to be scared about." – Hannah [21:34]

• [56:55–57:10] Hannah explains how to distinguish anxiety from intuition:

  • "Anxiety comes in a question... If you get a thought like, 'is he cheating on me?' That’s anxiety. If you get a thought 'he’s cheating on you,' that’s intuition."

4. The Gen Z Getting Fired Debate & Work Culture

• [12:18–20:32] Paige brings up a viral article on the high rate of Gen Z firings, sparking a substantive discussion on generational work styles and initiative:

  • Paige defends Gen Z, pointing out all young people struggle with early career jobs and that social skills gaps may be due to pandemic impacts.
  • Hannah and Paige reflect on being fired, setting workplace boundaries, and the (sometimes punitive) culture around “initiative.”
  • "Initiative is so important, and it comes from caring." – Hannah [16:01]
  • "If you are Gen Z getting fired right now, don't take it personally..." – Hannah [18:33]

• [20:12–20:32] Memorable moment: In a candid interview moment, a young woman honestly tells Hannah her dream job is "to not work," and both hosts reflect on fulfillment and societal pressure to be passionate about work.

5. Women Supporting Women, Best Friend Intuition, & Male Fragility

• [23:49–24:45] Paige shares a heartfelt story about how women can communicate volumes with a look, especially in high-pressure situations, highlighting the unique strength of female friendship and collaboration.

• [25:02–28:15] The hosts discuss how men can sense (and dislike) when their partners’ female friends see through them, and how women sense when friends are shrinking themselves to appease partners.

  • "When I meet my friend's boyfriend or something. I'm not meeting him as another woman. I'm genderless. I'm a soul." – Hannah [26:43]

6. Reality TV, Drag Queens, and Gender Double Standards

• [33:01–51:10] Deep dive into recent pop culture moments:

  • Paige recaps her favorite (“iconic”) celebrity interviews: Ali Larter “was so kind and warm,” and Michelle Randolph “so sweet," but also shares the pressure Michelle felt due to her sister’s public drama.
  • The hosts vent about ‘Traitors’ and reality TV:
    • Women being duped by charming male contestants,
    • The difficulty for “loud women” on TV,
    • Double standards where men get away with more, and
    • "The misogyny of reality TV..." – Hannah [51:10]

• [50:05–50:30] "Why is every drag queen voted out? First, save these queens." – Hannah

  • Both are frustrated about drag queens and outspoken women being “out” early on competition shows.

7. Reflections on Relationships & Self-Blame

• [51:51–53:16] They discuss how women are often blamed no matter what they do in relationships, and how society reflexively holds women responsible for problems started by men.

• [54:03–55:43] Personal admissions:

  • Both recount the kinds of problematic men they've previously dated – from cheaters to controlling narcissists – and how it’s not the woman’s fault when deceived by men.

8. Intuition versus Anxiety 101 (Mental Health Tip)

• [55:54–56:52] Hannah provides a concrete “life hack” for distinguishing intuition from anxiety or depression, offering listeners a practical mental health takeaway.

  • Quote: "Intuition is a statement... Anxiety comes in a question... If you get a thought like, 'is he cheating on me?' That’s anxiety. If you get a thought 'he’s cheating on you,' that’s intuition." – Hannah [56:15]

9. The Unsung Work of Moms & Women (Memorable, Emotional Outro)

• [57:38–60:38] Both hosts pay tribute to their moms stepping in as behind-the-scenes managers and emotional rocks during intense professional moments, while poking fun at themselves for glorifying the smallest gestures from their dads.

  • "No one else is doing that for you except your fucking mom." – Paige [58:44]
  • "My mom is out here, like doing my laundry right now... And I'm like, daddy sent me a text." – Hannah [60:03]

• The conversation ends with both feeling grateful for their support systems, especially the underappreciated hard work of women.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "There were so many things I could have burnt down the city for... what I really needed was I needed to talk to my best friend."
  – Paige [02:17]

• "I would get fired for doing too much. Like, they would be like, 'You're not CEO. Sit down...’"
  – Hannah [18:33]

• "The only way to conquer your fears is to do it."
  – Hannah [21:34]

• "If you get a thought like, 'is he cheating on me?' That’s anxiety. If you get a thought 'he’s cheating on you,' that’s intuition."
  – Hannah [56:15]

• "When I meet my friend's boyfriend or something. I'm not meeting him as another woman. I'm genderless. I'm a soul."
  – Hannah [26:43]

• "Why is every drag queen voted out first? Save these queens."
  – Hannah [50:30]

• "No one else is doing that for you except your fucking mom."
  – Paige [58:44]

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Important Timestamps

• 01:06 – Episode kicks off; emotions running high.
• 03:05 – The importance of venting to a best friend.
• 10:05 – Paige on not wearing the butt pad.
• 11:41 – Paige celebrates overcoming stage anxiety.
• 12:48 – Gen Z firing phenomenon and generational takes.
• 16:01 – Initiative in the workplace explained.
• 20:12 – Honest career ambitions: "to not work."
• 21:34 – Hannah on conquering her own fears as a comic.
• 24:29 – Women’s communication superpowers.
• 26:43 – The soul-to-soul approach to meeting friends’ partners.
• 33:01 – Paige’s favorite interviews (Ali Larter, Michelle Randolph).
• 41:35 – Analyzing why women fall for charming men on TV (Traitors).
• 50:30 – Complaint about drag queens being eliminated early.
• 55:54 – Mental health tip: intuition vs anxiety vs depression.
• 57:38 – Homage to the vital (and invisible) work of moms.
• 60:03 – Poking fun at how dads get praised for the bare minimum.

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Episode Tone & Style

The episode is a mix of laugh-out-loud candor and real vulnerability: conversational, self-deprecating, and supportive. Hannah and Paige’s natural banter, peppered with sharp pop culture references and meme-worthy observations, makes listeners feel like they’re eavesdropping on the world’s most entertaining best friends’ phone call.

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Takeaways

• Find your safe space: Sometimes, all you need is a conversation with your best friend.
• You’re not alone if you’ve felt fired, duped, or overwhelmed. It’s part of growing, especially for women navigating work and relationships.
• Learn to spot the difference between anxiety and intuition.
• Celebrate the women who support you – and don’t forget to call your mom.

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– Hannah [57:35]

Transcript

[Hannah]

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[Paige]

Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your wi fi.

[Hannah]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

[Paige]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah]

My, my, my, my. Yep, yep.

[Paige]

No. And that's actually exactly what I was thinking. You took the words right out of my mouth.

[Hannah]

You guys, we have nothing left.

[Paige]

I have nothing.

[Hannah]

This is also when you make us record. No one's made us record. Actually, we made ourselves.

[Paige]

No, you made us record this morning. I. Okay, it's just.

[Hannah]

You go. Of those days. You go, I'm gonna start crying.

[Paige]

It's just like. No, not like seriously, but like, I cry good.

[Hannah]

Wait, I am going to get my period in about four days. If any gigglers are on the same cycle, let me know.

[Paige]

Anyway, that's funny, because I. I just ended mine. I have a lot to say. I can't even compose.

[Hannah]

Can I just say something?

[Paige]

Sure.

[Hannah]

Did you wear a butt pad? The academy needs to know.

[Paige]

No, this is why you need your girlfriends. Because I'm not kidding. Like, the hours leading up to recording this pod, and I'm talking about, like, last night and this morning. There were so many things that I could have burnt down the entire city for. And it's really like, oh, I actually just needed to, like, talk to my best friend.

[Hannah]

Like, oh, my God. Well, okay, this is what's fucked up, you guys, because we care about the pod too much. We haven't had a full talk about what went down this weekend. Like, We've been texting non stop, but, like, I didn't want to spill anything.

[Paige]

I'm gonna cry because I haven't been

[Hannah]

able to vent about anything. You're so pent up right now.

[Paige]

I'm so pent up. And it's like, I've talked to my mom. I've talked to a man in my life. Like, no, what I really needed was I needed to talk to my best friend because she's actually the only one that gets me.

[Hannah]

I apologize to you because, well, of course, I shot my special on Saturday, and then Paige was running Netflix on Sunday, so. So we're both, you know, on edge.

[Paige]

You know when I get in those moods where I'm, like, I'm obsessed with myself. I love myself. I'm in one of those moods where I'm, like, so annoyed by myself. I'm like, enough with you.

[Hannah]

Oh. Because you've been doing so much.

[Paige]

I'm just like, enough with your nonsense to my own self. Here's a funny. Here's a funny story, though. So Saturday night, Hannah records her special. And so, like, I text her earlier. We're on two different time zones. So I text her, like, earlier in that day. Like, you're gonna cr. Like, your outfit's so good. So it's like, half the battle. Like, you're fine now. I leave, I go, I get a massage. Awesome. I'm not thinking about anything except me and my massage girl. Okay? She got in there. Sunday morning, I wake up, I'm, like, getting ready. I'm doing my thing. I get a text from Hannah. You're going to crush it tonight. Your outfit's so good. Like, don't worry about it. Like, you're good. I get out of doing the red carpet. I have a text from Hannah saying I could only watch the beginning of it because I had to go get a massage. And I felt so bad that I'm getting a massage while you're, like, probably wanting to kill yourself. I text Hannah back and I go, that's so funny, because I got a massage when you were doing your thing where you probably wanted to kill yourself, and I thought nothing of it.

[Hannah]

I literally, like, was nervous to tell you that I wasn't able to watch the majority of it because I was getting a massage, which is so fucking selfish of me. And you literally go, what do you think I was doing while you were working, babe?

[Paige]

And this is why we're friends.

[Hannah]

I was all I had to perform, and you'd be really proud of me. My stylist Was like, gave me these shoes that are like five inch heels. And she's like, these are gorgeous. So I put them on. And I'm a diva in the opposite way, where I'm always like, this isn't gonna be comfortable. Like, I have to. I have moves where I'm grinding, I'm jumping, I'm doing something.

[Paige]

Six and a half inch platforms. I said, do we have sixers? I'd really love to.

[Hannah]

You're the exact opposite. You go, can we go higher? Our favorite photographer, Lucho, came. Oh, my God. We tortured this man.

[Paige]

No. We tortured.

[Hannah]

No. I feel so bad for Lucho. So Lucho was loving his life in Milan. This is so fancy of Lucho. And in Milan, having pasta. Whatever people do in Milan. Gets a call from Paige's team. Can you fly to LA? Which is like 72 hours. I'm not a mathematician, but it's long shoots you. Next day, flies to Toronto, shoots my special.

[Paige]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, yeah, you're telling him, right? Okay,

[Hannah]

you go. And another thing. Never mind. And you know what? Yes.

[Paige]

Flights to la. Flies to la, shoots me for L. Yes.

[Hannah]

So, yeah. Then fights to me. And then he and I go. We were like, so in it. And then I look at him and I go, are you doing sag? I mean, sorry, Actor Awards. And he was like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God. And he's like, I can't. I just. I have to get on Red Eye. So anyway, we're flying this Italian boy back and forth, back and forth. At the end of my special, he just starts laughing. And I'm like, what are you laughing about? Besides, I mean, this isn't the comedy part. Why are you laughing? We're just sitting here. And he's like, you and Paige are so different. He's like, do you realize I had to corner you and beg you to take photos of you? You hired me to take photos of you. You're running away from me. I can't get you down. We take one photo, you get distracted. You're talking to someone. Where Paige. I'll be like, hey, paige, we took 700 photos. And you're like, what's a little more? They're like, paige, you have a gig to do. And she's like, but did we get it? And he's like, we got it 400 times. And she's like, I don't think so.

[Paige]

My new thing is set up a photo shoot for me.

[Hannah]

You were bringing a green screen around.

[Paige]

I'm bringing.

[Hannah]

You go now. We're in Paris. Now we're in Tokyo.

[Paige]

Remember when Aubrey o' Day was posting all those Instagrams?

[Hannah]

She made it look like she was at the beach.

[Paige]

That's me and Lucho. I'm like. I'm like, let's envision this is a Tiffany campaign. What do we do? Like, we get into.

[Hannah]

When I tell you. Lucho was like, can we shoot now? And I'm like, no, I'm getting ready. And then we're, like, about to go on. And I'm like, I have to go on. And then I'm like, okay, I have to rest for my next show. Like, I was like, lucho, I don't have time. He's like, you hired me.

[Paige]

No. The morning of Actor awards, I. My assistant had to get, like, wellness check. Get a literal trapeze. I don't even know. She had to get, like, all these things for him to set up his photo shoot thing because he was on a flight from Canada.

[Hannah]

I'm obsessed. But, yeah, so you're. Anyway, so I put on the five inch heels, and I told my stylist I cannot perform my. My Hulu special in these. Like, I'm gonna look awkward. I have to feel like myself. Yeah, but you're gonna. I have so much to say. And you have so much to say anyway. Just say it. So we get there and we're putting on the outfit, and I'm like, you know what? I had, like, your voice in my head, and I was like, wear the fucking high heels, Hannah. It looks so much better. Just do it. But wearing 5 inch heels for three shows, like, your lower back gives out. So I was flying back on Sunday, and I found this guy who could come to my apartment. It was, like, sketchy. Like, three.

[Paige]

So did you wear them?

[Hannah]

Yeah, babe, I wore them.

[Paige]

I'm gonna cry.

[Hannah]

No, I know. And she brought. She just brought them, like, just in case. And I was like, the comedy guys,

[Paige]

I'm so proud of you.

[Hannah]

Thank you. It's gonna make all the difference. No, it will. Like, and I would have never done it if it wasn't for you, so. And my nana, so thank you to you.

[Paige]

You're welcome.

[Hannah]

But. But then the guy was like, great, I'm free tonight. Because I'm like, I'm actually, like, having a spasm. I've been flying too much. And he was like, great. 7:00pm I said, perfect. Going through my day. And then I re. I turn on Netflix, and it says 7:00pm start. And I'm like, okay, pages start at 6, and I'm like, nope. Paige is starting at 7. I'm like, she's gonna kill me. She's gonna kill me.

[Paige]

Why the hell would I care?

[Hannah]

Well, but then I'm also getting a massage, thinking, my poor baby is trying to remember facts. She trying to remember. Trying to pretend she wants to listen. She's whole. She's. She's having to stand in her little dress with her butt pad. Like. And I just felt we're normally do stuff together, so it just felt uneven, but knowing.

[Paige]

Even. And also, even with my co host, I didn't realize that I wasn't standing with him. Like, I was standing on my own. First, I just want to report I didn't wear the butt pad. Oh, I put it on advertising. I didn't even put it on with my dress because when I put it on, I actually think you would look phenomenal in it because you already have a good butt. It was almost like it almost made my hips look. It didn't look good is what I'll say. Like, it didn't look good.

[Hannah]

If I did it, I feel like I would look really camp. Like. Like, I would look Kim k. Like,

[Paige]

yeah, you would be, like, giving, like, Julia Fox.

[Hannah]

Like, you should have worn it and just not said anything.

[Paige]

It looked insane. I didn't even try it on with my dress because it looked so nuts.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Paige]

So anyway, I forget everything I was gonna say.

[Hannah]

We have nothing to say.

[Paige]

We had really intense weekends. I just want to say I. I was nervous, but I wasn't as nervous as I thought I was going to be. Like, I took a. I obviously took a beta blocker, but in my head, I was like, oh, am I gonna have to take another one? Because, yes, I'm live for an hour, but I was standing there for two hours prior. Like, there are. Because the red carpet is so many hours long.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

It would be impossible to go live for three hours because it's. There's such a lull. Like, you don't know in time when people are showing.

[Hannah]

And you also don't want to OD on beta blockers.

[Paige]

Right. I don't want to, like, pass out, but I wasn't. None of my typical anxiety things that happened to me happened. So I'm like, so I was so proud of myself for that. I was like, wow. It took me a full fucking year to reset my nervous system from just, like, absolute over the past few years. So I was very happy with that. I, like, at that point, I was like, I don't even care how I do because Just the fact that I'm not getting nervous and feeling like I'm going to faint is a win in itself.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yes. It's huge.

[Paige]

So much was just like happening. Also, Daphne launched today. Like our spring collection launched today. And it is so. It's just so hard to run a business.

[Hannah]

You have so much going on.

[Paige]

No. And I think people like, I, I don't, like, I don't have. I never talk about the running of Daphne on Giggly Squad because it truly is like running a business. Did you see that article that Gen Z is getting fired at an alarming rate?

[Hannah]

No, I didn't see that.

[Paige]

Some article came out. So then obviously like everyone and their mom is doing a video on Tick Tock that Gen Z is getting fired at like an insane rate. Like they just can't hold, they can't hold a job because people are just firing them left, right and center. Someone who's always down on Gen Z. I'm actually going to stick up for them for a second. I don't think it's necessarily Gen Z. I think it's being that age. Anyone that age. Like in your early and mid-20s, like it's very easy to mess up at your first job. Second job, you're like as someone who

[Hannah]

was fired in her early 20s.

[Paige]

Okay, hold on.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

But then I kept seeing comments and it was millennials basically being like, Gen Z doesn't take any initiative. And the comments were Gen Z being like, initiative cost extra. Like you're not paying me. And I think that Gen Z might not understand the term initiative. And for me it's common sense. Neither do we. I think that Gen Z just lacks certain social cues because of like Covid and certain things. Like, and then I get tiktoks of like teachers that teach like 14 year olds and they're like, hey guys, they don't know how to read so we're asking them to do these things. And it's like they can't do it because they can't read it. Like, I guess their reading comprehension is really bad.

[Hannah]

Okay. I do have to say I think Gen Z's also, they are amazing with like understanding their worth and like in

[Paige]

theory, boundaries, setting boundaries, having a good work life balance.

[Hannah]

Yes. Which is theory is amazing. But then you have to realize you will sometimes get fired when you have too many boundaries in the workplace. And that's okay. That job isn't for you.

[Paige]

And as someone who runs a business

[Hannah]

and as someone who's been fired, as

[Paige]

someone who's fired people before Yeah, I think boyfriends fired. Multiple fired. Fired. So many.

[Hannah]

Boy, can we fire boyfriends. Like, breaking up. Be like, you're done, you're fired.

[Paige]

Fired. You want to know what?

[Hannah]

I've seen your work. It doesn't bring value.

[Paige]

That is what it should be. Because it's like, hey, I gave you warning after warning.

[Hannah]

You've been on probation.

[Paige]

We did a full year review. You, I said what you improved in and what you didn't, and now you're

[Hannah]

actually hurting the company.

[Paige]

Yeah, I also saw a thing that it was like, stay until you hate them because you'll never go back. And I'm like, wait, I, like, have unintentionally done that for 15 years.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I don't agree with that, but if you have to do it that way, that's fine.

[Paige]

Anyway, what was I saying? Okay. One of the things that I run into as a business owner and I'm like, obviously a lot of gigglers can relate to this. And I don't think it's just Gen Z. I find myself, if you hire someone to do a job, I don't feel like I need to check in on you, that you're doing that job because I hired you to do that job.

[Hannah]

Well, initiative is so important, and it comes from caring. Now, this is the thing. I was definitely taken advantage of and abused in my early 20s at multiple startups. However, I knew what I signed up for. And this is my advice to people in their 20s. You're gonna change jobs every two years. That's how you actually get salary increases. Because if you stay at the same job, you're not going to get a lot. Unless if you're, like, so obsessed with a job. So when you're in it, think about the book you're going to write. I love saying I was working, you know, for $20 an hour and I was working weekends and I was learning so much. And I was hanging out with, you know, this executive who was telling me all their strategies. It's the, the money. Yeah, it seems low, but you're learning stuff. And yeah, we were part of that, like, unlimited vacation days time where they literally didn't give us days off. And if we asked for it, they, like, judged us.

[Paige]

I never asked for a day off.

[Hannah]

No, that was, like, illegal. And they were like, but we have a beer tap in the office. And I'm like, that gives me diarrhea. But anyway, I do have to say, too, every single job I've been fired from, and this is a flex. The founder, the person who Fired Me has since reached out. And I have to say, I got an amazing text from someone who fired me early on in my career. I have to bring it up for you. That could make me cry. This. Oh, this could make me cry. I was in my very.

[Paige]

So emotional today.

[Hannah]

We're so emotional. This is my very early twenties. I was working under someone. He was amazing entrepreneur, and he kind of ended up just wanting me to do customer service. But I was trying so hard to, like, do everything for him and pitch him stuff. And he basically was like, stop. And then when I asked for a raise, he was like, leave me alone. So I, like, left. I was like, I have to leave. So he texted me. I think back to those years and realize I had no clue at the time how to help you be. You keep having fun and it's this beautiful. Like, it wasn't about. I was. I was a bad worker or is

[Paige]

it raining where you are?

[Hannah]

No. Why?

[Paige]

Oh, it's raining.

[Hannah]

We're both in New York. Yeah, that's why I asked.

[Paige]

Anyway, keep going.

[Hannah]

You go, sorry, there's 30% chance of rain. I'm touching my boob. Continue. But anyway, if you are. If you are Gen Z getting fired right now, don't take it personally, but I would get fired for doing too much. Like, they would be like, you're not CEO. Sit down and answer emails where I was like, we gotta change the strategy.

[Paige]

Yeah, I don't think they're getting fired because of that. I think they're getting fired for literally the exact opposite.

[Hannah]

But I would argue Gen Z's, yes, you're getting taken advantage of. But you kind of, in your first years, you want to learn as much as possible so that when eventually you do get the big jobs, you feel so qualified.

[Paige]

This one girl gave an example where she was like, taking initiative is more like you're following up with someone rather than your boss asking you, hey, can you follow up with that person?

[Hannah]

I also have, like, crippling anxiety, and the idea of, like, my boss tell me to do something and it doesn't get done will keep me up for months.

[Paige]

So I've had people like, I've asked, like, okay, where do you see yourself in five years? And like, I've had employees be like, I don't think about it. And I'm like, okay, like. And that's totally fine. But if you're not thinking about it, then I'm certainly not thinking about it because I'm thinking about it for myself.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I also. There is a interesting perspective I was meeting with this girl, and I don't think she knew that I was actually trying to see if she could be good, like, for our company. Yeah. And I was just subtly asking her questions, like, what's your dream job like?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I literally look at her and I'm like, if you. You could get everything you wanted in a job.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

What would it be? And she looked at me and she was like, to not work. And at that moment, I said, that's incredible. And I wish that I could be fulfilled outside of work. And that's my own mental illness.

[Paige]

Okay. Same.

[Hannah]

I wish we're not talking down on that. That sounds. And there are people who live to work and work to live.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

What did you say to me when you, like, started, Daphne? You said, I'm feeling really creatively fulfilled, which I was missing in my life. And that's where I felt my most happiness. Like, for example, even this special. I felt the same way this weekend too, where I was like, last special you had, I had. I felt the weight of the world. Everyone was like, there were all these articles about, like, Hannah left reality TV to, like, be a shitty comic. And, like, it was all, like, repeating in my head. And I'm like, I could fail. I could fail. And when you had your panic attack.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Back in Denver. Not to bring it up again. I know it's triggering. I told you, I said, you better get on stage tomorrow because if you don't, you'll never go on again. And I've dealt with a lot of performance anxiety. Performance anxiety in my past. So people are like, why would you become a stand up comedian? But I realized the only way to conquer your fears is to do it. And then your brain learns, like, oh, this isn't something to be scared about. But the only way for your brain to know it is to do it right. So what was crazy is this Hulu special. I was like, oh, no. Like, three weeks beforehand. Am I gonna start, like, getting in my head again and, like, fighting all these demons and it, like, never happened. And then I went on stage and I'm like, you're so fucking prepared. You've. You're having fun. You've done this before. And it just. Like, we both have had so much growth over the last two years. It's fucking crazy. And for anyone who's scared of something right now, I did my homework for you. And this is so annoying. And I hate to be so millennial about it. Force yourself to do it.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, even if it's a little Thing like you're scared of going on dates. Set up a date right now, because that's the only way to change your brain. Neuroplasticity. Eileen Gu talked about it.

[Paige]

Eileen who?

[Hannah]

Eileen Goo. We talked about her last time.

[Paige]

Yeah, neuroplasticity. Sorry, the words slipped my mind.

[Hannah]

Wait, so, okay, is there any behind the scenes stuff from the Actor Awards, you getting ready, or like celebrity encounters that we should know about?

[Paige]

Let me just say, I will get into it, but let me just say one more thing on why women are so incredible. I'm getting ready for. For the Netflix thing and something happened. Not even like, nothing, but like, it was nothing that happened, but I couldn't say in the moment. Like, I look at Taylor Fitzgerald, my makeup artist. I'm not kidding, Hannah. I shot my eye up for half a second. Half a second. We didn't even fully make eye contact. And I had a full conversation with her in the moment to the point that after, when it was over, she text. We were texting each other and I was like, hey, can we talk about something? She goes, I already know what you're gonna talk about during taping. No, this was like, right before I went out.

[Hannah]

Got it.

[Paige]

Like, literally moments before I was starting,

[Hannah]

I was like, mid interview, you were

[Paige]

like, no, I gave her a look and it was like. And it's just like the power of women. And I know we get on the pod and I know a lot of people like to be like, put us in a box. Like, oh, they just like, hate men. Like, that's their whole personality. They hate men. And not at all. We love men. As someone who was the most boy crazy person in like, high school, in college, I fucking love men. I love dating men. I love having sex with them. Like, I have such great men in my fit. I know amazing men.

[Hannah]

Like, I've had so many amazing men inside me.

[Paige]

No, Rachel Zoe actually just did a podcast and she was talking about how, like, she loves great men, but she hates the shitty ones. And I'm like, that's exactly how I feel. Where was I going with this?

[Hannah]

Well, you were saying women were amazing.

[Paige]

Women are amazing. So, like, our whole personality isn't just hating men, but the way that we. I connect with another woman is just on another level. And it's not like, it's not that it's competing with how I connect with men. It's just different. Like, okay, and you guys should connect with each other also.

[Hannah]

Like, is that why your ex boyfriends are jealous of me?

[Paige]

Probably.

[Hannah]

I think that I Trigger men, because they can tell when I don't respect them. Yeah. And I don't do it. Like, I do it very subtly. I think it's more like I might not laugh as loud as they want me to or. Or they just don't like that I'm taking up space in a room that they're used to taking up space in.

[Paige]

No, men can. For how dumb they are. They can clock when someone's clocking them. Like, I had a boyfriend meet my best friend from high school for the first time, and I hadn't seen. And we lived. At that point, me and my girlfriend had lived on, like, different coasts, so it wasn't like we were seeing each other all the time. And we happened to both be in California. And I just started dating this guy, and I was like, oh, my God, you have to meet him. Let's, like, go out for drinks. She was with him. I'm not kidding. Less than 15 minutes. She squeezed my hand and goes, what are you doing? And I had a moment where I was just like, oh, my God. But he would not see. He would not bring her up ever again. If there was a. If there was a time where, like, I could possibly see her or hang out with her, he wanted nothing to do with it. And not that she was ever rude to him. Like, she would never do that. Like, he didn't know that she didn't like him. But men can clock when there's other women in the room that aren't falling for your.

[Hannah]

Yes. Also, when I meet my friend's boyfriend or something. I'm not meeting him as another woman.

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

I'm genderless. I'm a soul.

[Paige]

Genderless.

[Hannah]

I'm a soul in the room meeting another soul. And I'm not. I'm not being girly. I'm just right.

[Paige]

Because it's. It's not like this is a potential employer, a potential date.

[Hannah]

I'm nothing.

[Paige]

Yeah, you're nothing to me.

[Hannah]

Soul. Meeting you as a soul and seeing like, that is how I come into the space. Yeah. And you're not gonna pull a fast one on. And I'm not going to be mean to you either. I think maybe I scare them because they can tell that I'm observing and I rarely observe.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I'm not observant. I'm normally a chatty little Kathy.

[Paige]

No. And that is why people. That is why men will immediately. Like, their immediate defense is, will you listen to your friends? Or like, you're acting like your friend. It's like, thank God. Thank God. Someone's looking out for me. Because you're certainly not.

[Hannah]

But also, if I love us being like. And this is how you stand up for your friend, what you should do. When I meet you with a new man, I look at you first.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because I know who you are in your soul. And if you're. If you are putting on a different energy, it's not your fault. His fault.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So I go, what is he reflecting onto you? That's making you feel like you have to overcompensate. You have to make yourself smaller. You can't laugh as loud. That's when I say, no, no, no, no.

[Paige]

I would, like. I would, like hide you. I became a recluse.

[Hannah]

You were wearing. You were. You were wearing outfits I didn't recognize. Pastels. You were wearing florals.

[Paige]

Honey, someone had to check on you. You were in florals. We were all scared at home. We were all nervous.

[Hannah]

Oh, God.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

And I love an acai bowl. Yes. It's pronounced acai, not a kai, which I may have done in the past, but they add popping boba. So it's like fun, juicy. It's not tapioca. It's like. It's so. It makes it just, like an exciting tropical experience. And it's a limited time only. They have two flavors.

[Paige]

They have mango, and then they have berry. I personally like berry because it has dark choco chunks in it and anything that has like a dark first of all, just saying the phrase dark choco chunk. It's like I was born too.

[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

Wait, can I tell you some people I interviewed that I actually absolutely fucking love?

[Hannah]

Yes. Give me the tea.

[Paige]

Hard number one, Ali Larder.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God, what an icon.

[Paige]

What an icon. Do you want to know something so fucking iconic? I see her walking down the carpet. She's stunning. She's radiant.

[Hannah]

She's gorgeous.

[Paige]

Gorgeous. She's so nice it would, like, make you sick. She was so kind and warm. Because there's like a second, there's like a second before we start that, like, we say hi to each other. She was so nice to me. Then I see her with a man and in my head I'm like, I actually have no idea if she's married or not. I don't even know who. But I see the guy and I'm like, I kind of recognize him. Like, I feel like maybe he has been in a couple movies, but it's not like he's like a name that you would like immediately think of. Good looking, very good looking, gorgeous couple. The way he watched her do the carpet, literally, I could have brought a tear to my eye.

[Hannah]

Because some of these men are performative when the camera's on. Trying to be supportive.

[Paige]

That's what it is. No camera on him.

[Hannah]

I can't when the camera's on, being like, look how much I love her. When they're rude on camera, I'm like, imagine how they act without the camera.

[Paige]

Imagine and imagine how tired we are. So that was one thing. I loved her. Oh, I loved Michelle Randolph, who is also from Landman. She was stunning, sweet. So sweet. I felt so bad for her because there was a moment where I had completely forgotten about the Colton of it all. When I first saw, like, when I saw her and when she was coming up to do an interview right before we started, she was like, hey, you're not gonna ask any personal questions, right? I don't even know if that's exactly how she worded it. It was almost like hey, you're not gonna ask any. And I looked at her and I was like, hey, no, no, no, I would never. And then as I'm doing the interview, I'm like, oh, my God. I bet she thought I was gonna say something about that disgusting loser who stalked the out of her sister. It made me again pissed off because I'm like, here is this beautiful, gorgeous young girl who is here celebrating the phenomenal job she did as an actress in her show that's getting nominated, and she's thinking about your loser ass. And if some random question is going to come up about your psychotic. Did you see that whole Vanity Fair article? Vanity Fair, Miss me with that. Did you see Colton did a whole article with Vanity Fair?

[Hannah]

I didn't see it.

[Paige]

And they were like. The interviewer was like, obviously we have to ask about this. Like, what's going on with you and Michelle? Or not what's going on.

[Hannah]

But lazy.

[Paige]

No, the one that's on the show's name is Michelle. The one that he stalked is Cassie.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

So the interviewer asks him, like. And his answer is, oh, well, if they wanted to ask me any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. And I had a Xanax addiction at the time. Get this man off my end.

[Hannah]

They're really doing.

[Paige]

Why are you pushing this so much? Also, another thing, since we're talking about Traitors, and I didn't watch this season because I actually couldn't stomach it.

[Hannah]

Oh, yeah.

[Paige]

But as someone who watched Rob's season on Love Island, I despised him on Love Island. I thought that he was so manipulative and everyone was falling for it. I kind of can't see stomach the praise he's getting.

[Hannah]

Okay. As someone who watched every second of

[Paige]

the season of Traitors, but not Love Island.

[Hannah]

Not Love Island. I just watched Traders this finale. Fast forward if you don't want to hear about it.

[Paige]

Whole.

[Hannah]

I couldn't fall asleep that night. You would have actually broken a wall. You would have. Allah, man. Maura. Maura and Rob, they make it like their besties because they're both on Love Island. We find out later they met once

[Paige]

before the show when Tara and Johnny are legitimately best friends. Before the show, they said like, no, Rob's a traitor. No one would listen to them.

[Hannah]

So there was a moment.

[Paige]

If there's anyone I'm listening to, it's a girl and her gay bestie. You would have done research.

[Hannah]

You would have died. There's a moment. Okay. There's a moment. Rob is a traitor. Eric is a traitor. And Eric, by the way, sweetest man in the world, worst traitor ever. He's like pissing himself every second. He has to be a traitor.

[Paige]

I don't even know who that is. Who is Eric?

[Hannah]

He's a singer. And Rob, like, picked him, I think, cuz he's weak and like, if he fucks up, it doesn't affect Rob. So. And then there's Tara and Johnny. And Tara and Johnny are like, Eric and Rob are traitors. So then there's a fifth person who's. Who affects everything, and that's Maura.

[Paige]

And it's cracking the case more than a girl and her guy. Like, I'm sorry.

[Hannah]

And when I tell you, they. So. So Tara pulls Maura aside and it's like, maura, I trust you. You trust me. I'm telling you, Rob and Eric are traitors. And she's like, I don't think. I don't think so. I don't think so.

[Paige]

And then the power of a attractive man in the United States of America to get away with hypothetical murder on this show is so. Oh, it's. It's an. It's alarming. It's alarming.

[Hannah]

There was a moment, though, where Maura looks at Tara and she goes, I see it. You're right. So then she goes back to Rob and the. This is the thing. It's. We've all seen this with our girlfriends before.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Where they know the guy sucks. They know he's probably cheating on them, or they know that he's not right for them, but they don't want to believe it because then they'd have to admit that they've been duped. Duped the entire time. So that was like, so human of Maura. But you're watching it and there was this moment where they're going around, if Maura had voted for Eric or Rob, they could have had this like, feminist moment of Tara and Maura being the winners of the traitors and the girls winning. And Maura turns and votes Tara and Tara. And then this was the hardest part. So Tara gets voted off after Tara's like, this man is the traitor. As she's walking away. Rob goes. And he didn't. This is what's the thing about Rob. He didn't mean it in a mean way, but if a man said this to me, I would have sucker punched him that he said, goodbye, sweetheart. I would fucking kill them if you call me sweetheart.

[Paige]

I would have fucking on a nice

[Hannah]

Tuesday, I would have been mad. But so. So then.

[Paige]

Are you Kidding. If I'm walking down the streets of New York City and someone says, hey, sweetheart, I'm turning around and being like, you mind your own fucking business.

[Hannah]

Dare you disrespect me like that. So then this is the problem. So Maura is convinced Eric's the traitor. She's like, so she half believed Tara. She's like, eric's a traitor. Could not be Rob. Could not be Rob. So then when it's Rob and her look at each other and he's like, early on, he's like, we're gonna win this thing. We're gonna win this thing. Now, I could see you being like, oh, me and my faithful friend are excited. We're gonna win this thing. He's too sure they're gonna win it. Like, that's traitor behavior to be like, we're gonna get out this person. This person, then we're gonna win it. And she's smiling and hugging. They're holding hands. There's an intimacy to them. I'm just saying this. Allegedly, I think either they fucked or they just had this like really intense emotional thing going.

[Paige]

Look, if I had a nickel every time, like a good looking man, like, truly deceived me, I wouldn't have to do this podcast anymore.

[Hannah]

No, like, and there's moments we've all been there where we know he sucks, but you're like, this attention feels really nice right now. Even though it's like, it's deviant attention, it's sinister attention.

[Paige]

There's almost. Here's the other thing for. And I don't. I'm actually probably just speaking for myself because I'm crazy. We're women.

[Hannah]

So, like, not crazy.

[Paige]

Thank you. We're women. So, like, we have our. Together, we have our schedule. We know what we're doing. We know what our meal, what our meals are. We know how we're going to take care of our bodies. We know how we're. How we're going to spend our Saturday afternoon.

[Hannah]

We thought it through.

[Paige]

We've thought it through. Honey. We've got our ducks in a row. We've got our and manicured. We've got our T's crossed our eyes dotted. We've double checked things. So sometimes when you throw a wrench in there, you're like

[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

So Maura said if I was she said if I was dictators, you would have known. And I'm like, you look exactly like me every time I'm Talking to a tall man with a good jaw. I. Yeah. And Rob is. He's also. To win traders, you have. People have to trust you and you can't be too loud. I was thinking like I would get voted off immediately because they hate a loud woman. They hate a loud one. And we're not loud, by the way.

[Paige]

They're suspicious.

[Hannah]

We're the same as a man. But we considered loud women. Yeah. So anyway, she. Wait.

[Paige]

Isn't that crazy that we're actually considered loud women?

[Hannah]

When I hear people say.

[Paige]

When I.

[Hannah]

When people say confident women, I'm like, like a man. We act like a man.

[Paige]

When. I rarely speak.

[Hannah]

You've never spoken before.

[Paige]

I don't speak.

[Hannah]

You've never said a word in your life.

[Paige]

And people are like, she thinks too highly of herself.

[Hannah]

She's disgusting. I. I also think cuz I'm a little rough around the edges. People really hate when I talk. Like at least you have like societal femininity where when I talk people are like, can I have to you you. I have to. It's more palatable when you say it. Like, I'm going to be so honest. Me and you have said the same things on reality tv.

[Paige]

Yes. Mine get taken differently because. No, because I know how to make myself smaller. Because I feel like at a young age. Because I modeled at a young age and I would never bring it up. I. Because I didn't want people to ever know because I would be saying scared that they would be mean to me about it. I learned really quickly how to make myself really small in a room so I can go back and forth.

[Hannah]

And that is why you actually did so well on reality TV and I didn't. Because I've always taken up too much space in a room when I felt like I needed to be heard.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Where the men hated that.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And everyone was like, you know. No, not you.

[Paige]

How dare you.

[Hannah]

Sit the fuck down. Not you. Where you were better at subtle cunning jabs.

[Paige]

I'm better at mental mind games.

[Hannah]

And let me just say, not a lie has ever been said by me. Never. Not one. I've never lied.

[Paige]

No, you haven't.

[Hannah]

I don't even know how.

[Paige]

Never.

[Hannah]

Which is why I'd be a horrible traitor. But anyway, Samora gets out Rob. I mean, sorry. Gets out Eric. And Eric. And Rob gets out Eric. So it's just her and Rob. And you could see in her head she is. She's blushing like she's like, we did it. And then you have to say if you're a Traitor or not, she goes so far as to joke with him and go, I have to tell you something. I'm a traitor. Just kidding. I'm a faithful. And Rob has to pretend like he's surprised. Yeah. Which hopesetting. And then he's basically like, I'm a traitor. The light in her eyes die.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

That was the most incredible scene I've seen in a long time. But I do have to say, it's a game.

[Paige]

Mm.

[Hannah]

And Rob played it. He didn't. He. Your job is to deceive, like, so I can't. I'm not mad at Rob, and I'm not mad at Maura. I'm upset that this is the world we live in. That a white man not mad at so much. Easily trusted. Why is every drag queen voted out? First, save these queens.

[Paige]

The rate in which women will trust a man because he's slightly good looking and trust his word over tens of hundreds of, like. It's kind of crazy. And I feel like you can see it very clearly on reality tv. Like, that is why sometimes reality TV really gets, like, studied in certain college classes. Because watching how many people. You could have four women line up and be like, he did this, this, and this to me. And the other women be like, yeah, and he also did this, this, and this to me. And they'd be like, but you provoked him. Like, you were asking for it.

[Hannah]

The misogyny of reality tv. If you list all the horrible things that the men have done. And hot take. The only reason Tom Sandoval got his ass handed to him as hard as he did was because people wanted to hate on Rachel, too.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

If it was with a random girl, he would have never gotten that kind of traction.

[Paige]

Yeah. Could you imagine if a woman did what Tom Sandoval did, but, like, if the roles were reversed, it would be a completely. It would be a completely different outcome. Like, Tom Sandoval's on a show right now. He's on, like, House of Villains or something. If a woman did that, Don, if

[Hannah]

you're hating too much on women, you're actually hurting the movement. Stop for a second and be like, is this what I'm fighting for? Or is there bigger societal things than me tearing apart women?

[Paige]

And not everything is all of our fault. Like, I get hated. It's kind of funny because I can see both sides of, like, where I get hate, and it, like, never makes any sense. But it is interesting to see because I'm like, so this is it. Well, just. It's just automatically a woman's fault. Like, I'll get hated for staying with someone for too long, but then I'll also get hated if I broke up with them. It's like, okay, well, I don't trust her because she dated him. But it's like, but I broke up with him. It's like, well, I still don't trust you even though it's like, okay, but so I could. I wouldn't have been able to win either if I stayed with him. You would have been mad. And now that I've broken up with him, you're still mad. At the end of the day, it's always going to be a woman's fault because it's just easier to blame us. We could take it more. The men can't take it.

[Hannah]

Do you know what's hard? As every woman has seen what men are capable of. But then, like, on reality tv, when you see a man do it to a girl, it's. That's you projecting. Get mad at the girl. Yeah, like, it's her fault. When it's like, we've all been in that position. Like, that's why I'm not mad at Maura. I'm like, I've been her. All been Maura. Why would I get mad at her?

[Paige]

Yeah, she's.

[Hannah]

She's showing what happens in the world

[Paige]

because I don't go into a conversation or a friendship or a relationship, and my first thought is not, you're gonna lie to me.

[Hannah]

Like, exactly.

[Paige]

My. I have the opposite thought. I'm like, well, no, I'm dating you. You're my friend. Why would I think you're lying to me? But, yeah, investigation and be like, wait, you were lying.

[Hannah]

Looking back, though, I do think it would have been iconic for her to be like, regardless, I don't want to share this with this man. Even if I lose, like, fuck this man. But she really, like, loved him. Do you know Amora also?

[Paige]

She.

[Hannah]

She went on Love island right after she got cheated.

[Paige]

Her season was iconic.

[Hannah]

So she told me. She told me. I watched a video of her.

[Paige]

Ipso facto, she did kind of tell you.

[Hannah]

She told me through the phone that she went on pissed and. But she's so funny, naturally funny, that she was just, like, being crazy in the best way and passionate and. And having no nonsense for men. But what was so sad is she was like, I've been cheated on my whole life. And it was interesting to see, like, this pattern, like, the world is almost like giving you the same result until you change. And not that it's her fault. But you wonder why you keep finding yourself with men that are capable of such deception. Yeah, like I've. I go for a different type of issue, man. I've never been in the. Unless if every man's cheated on me. And I didn't know, but I feel like I would know because I'm a woman. Yeah. Some people go for cheaters, some people go for narcissists. Some people go for both.

[Paige]

I go for like controlling narcissists.

[Hannah]

See, they. That doesn't. That they know that I'm.

[Paige]

And I like to think it's because I like a challenge.

[Hannah]

Yes. Oh, God. Controlling narcissists. They love women who are strong and yeah, powerful because. Yeah, I see your legacy.

[Paige]

They come for me.

[Hannah]

They come for.

[Paige]

Yeah, they come for me and they decide disguise in the beginning and then they trap me. And then I'm like, now I have to cook up a plan.

[Hannah]

Like, I don't understand the psyche of it, but I could see a man being like, I would love to be with a beautiful women like Maura and then cheat on her for my ego.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And that's how you turn it and not blame Mora.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

It's not her fault she's so pretty and her glam skills are so good.

[Paige]

It's not her fault that some good looking man literally tricked her.

[Hannah]

I kind of love how mental healthy this episode is because I have one more mental health moment to start the week off.

[Paige]

Yeah, Hannah, thanks.

[Hannah]

So I actually would tell everyone, like, okay, intuition versus anxiety. It's different. But like, we don't really know how to tell. Like, we've all been lying. We're like, yeah, I could tell. We can't tell until I learned anxiety comes in a question. So when you get a thought, that's a question. That's not intuition. So if you get a thought like, is he cheating on me? That's anxiety. If you get a thought he's cheating on you, that's intuition. When you.

[Paige]

Sorry, I have to go about my days differently now. Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

And then if you have a past tense thought, that's just depression. Like, you always do this, you always do that. That's not intuition. That's depression. Or a story you tell of yourself. Like, this is so you. That's not intuition, that's depression. Because we all can make up stories about who we are. Any story is not intuition.

[Paige]

Just like going through my whole life,

[Hannah]

intuition is a statement. Like, before we went on stage, before you went to perform your Netflix, we both went, I'm ready for this. That's intuition. And that's why we weren't nervous. Oh. Oh, girl.

[Paige]

What an episode. Honestly, I didn't need this on a Tuesday morning.

[Hannah]

I know. I know. We did not need this.

[Paige]

No, I needed to speak to you, though. I needed to vent. You know, moral of this episode, truly. Sometimes you just need to talk to

[Hannah]

your friend or listen to giggly Squad.

[Paige]

Like, you just need to get, like, taken out of your brain cycle.

[Hannah]

Mm. And then have a different perspective.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

And someone who sees you authentically and not, like, the stuff you've been making up. Wait, can I call my. Myself out for being a misogynistic monster?

[Paige]

Mm.

[Hannah]

Okay. So my mom flew to Toronto to literally, like, manage me. Like, came in my hotel room, made sure I had enough liquids, like, talked me off ledges, folded my clothes, like, literally every second. Walked in, like, put. Put me in my body suit. Like, took care of every second, took notes during my sets to know what edits are. Like, she did everything. She has a notebook. During my sets the other day, I

[Paige]

made my mom get on a zoom because my mom is an accountant. It's not like I'm just, like, bringing my mom. My mom is a professional woman, and I saw her with her glasses and her little pen, and I.

[Hannah]

My mom is sitting in the crowd with her notebook, and that'll actually make

[Paige]

me cry because it's.

[Hannah]

That is just, like, you have to

[Paige]

talk to your friends sometimes. You have to. Women are so important. That's so important. No one else is doing that for you except your fucking mom.

[Hannah]

And I had this magical moment when I was on stage. And you're still scared. You're like, holy fuck, this is the special. I've been working two years for this moment. And she was wearing this light blazer, and somehow in the darkness, and I see her blazer, and I see that she's smiling. Like, I saw her teeth smiling. And I, like, got this rush of confidence that I was like, we're in this. We're doing it. Like, your mom's there for you. Then I get a text from my dad, who wasn't able to come. I think he was also. I think he was one nervous. And also, he had to, like, do a couple things. I think he was like, also, last time, he, like, heard that there was free catering for the crew and just kept getting in line for the free catering. So it was whatever. But also, my dad and I are very connected emotionally where, like, he doesn't have to physically be there. Like, he's my coach. I Love him to death. So I get a text from him the next day on Saturday, baby, you've worked so hard for this. Just go out there and be yourself. Love you. And in that moment, I was like,

[Paige]

isn't it funny to think that, like, you're still their child?

[Hannah]

No, I know.

[Paige]

You're still like the baby they brought home from the hospital.

[Hannah]

I was this close to posting this on Instagram, being like, I love my dad so much. Thank you. And then I stopped myself. I said, wait, wait, wait, wait a second, second. This man.

[Paige]

Is anything nice on the Internet?

[Hannah]

This man is sitting at home, sent me a very nice text. And I'm about to like, be like, oh, my dad. My mom is out here, like doing my laundry right now. She's rewriting my standup set. She's. She's organizing everything. And I'm like, daddy sent me a text. Daddy, Daddy remembered.

[Paige]

And half the time, half the time I know my mom has said, hey, send a text.

[Hannah]

Like, she probably told him to.

[Paige]

100.

[Hannah]

Meanwhile, 100. I got teary eyed. I said, this man. I'm so lucky to have a dad who's so special.

[Paige]

We're no better than a man.

[Hannah]

We're no better. We're no better. So let's you guys keep eyes and ears open out here. No one can be trusted. Okay?

[Paige]

No. And just remember, like, maybe you're not having a horrible day and it's like you hate your life. Maybe you just have to call your friend.

[Hannah]

You love call your friend the way you love a theme. And that's why friendship.

[Paige]

I love to wrap things up with a bow.

[Hannah]

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