Giggling about intuition, fan behavior, and sinister energy

Summary

Giggly Squad: Episode Summary Episode Title: Giggling about Intuition, Fan Behavior, and Sinister Energy
Release Date: July 15, 2025
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo

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1. Reconnecting After a Break

After a month-long hiatus, Hannah and Paige warmly welcome back their listeners, reminiscing about how much they've missed each other and the podcast.

Notable Quote:
Hannah [02:02]: "It's like a purge every week for us. If we don't get that day of the week to purge everything, it starts."
Paige [02:16]: "I don't have a healthy outlet."

2. The Importance of Friendship and Communication

The hosts delve into the depth of their friendship, emphasizing how essential their weekly podcast is as a safe space to express themselves and unload accumulated thoughts.

Notable Quote:
Paige [02:38]: "I don't have a single other person in my life that I have the relationship with you. Like, if you just disappeared, they'd have to commit me because I'd be so bottled up with things."

3. Language Learning and Dating Dynamics

Hannah and Paige discuss the stereotypical notion that French is a "girl's language" and share personal anecdotes about learning languages to impress or connect with partners.

Notable Quotes:
Hannah [03:10]: "Men should not speak French. French is only a language for girls."
Paige [03:31]: "I took the French class of 2016. That literally haunts me for my life."

4. Navigating Social Media and Seeking Approval

The conversation shifts to Instagram behaviors, the need for mutual approval before posting photos, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity online.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [05:30]: "If a man knows how to add the location and then change the font of the location sticker, I'm out."
Hannah [19:08]: "The photos come in of us both. Sometimes one of us looks good, then it's a whole thing. Can I post this photo and I sacrifice myself sometimes?"

5. Hair Care and Self-Maintenance Routines

Hannah and Paige compare their hair care routines, discussing the balance between low-maintenance and styled looks, especially during busy travel schedules.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [07:06]: "I'm literally an air dry queen."
Hannah [07:31]: "I can't see it."

6. Experiences at Time Party

The duo recount their experience attending a high-profile cocktail party, navigating social interactions, managing anxiety, and executing a seamless exit strategy.

Notable Quotes:
Hannah [13:41]: "I'm freaking out. Did you hear me or what?"
Paige [14:16]: "We are very honored to be on the list and invited to the party."

7. Intuition and Sinister Energy

Paige shares her journey of reconnecting with her intuition post-reality TV, describing how she now senses "sinister energy" in environments and situations, prompting her to trust her gut instincts more than ever.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [22:05]: "I feel like my intuition has almost been on another level."
Hannah [22:16]: "Sinister energy. Something is fucking off."

8. Mental Health and Self-Compassion

The hosts discuss moments of self-compassion, recognizing their own worth, and the importance of being kind to themselves, especially during periods of personal growth and challenges.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [24:42]: "I'm being really nice to myself recently."
Hannah [25:02]: "Sometimes I've actually been my happiest during a time where, like, other people might think I wasn't."

9. Transitioning from Reality TV

Hannah and Paige reflect on their experiences with reality TV, particularly "Love Island," critiquing its impact on contestants and viewers, and contemplating the future of reality television in the age of AI.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [47:16]: "Love island has taken this toll on the community."
Hannah [51:01]: "It's like Caesar in Hunger Games. They can become wealthy, but their lives can be ruined."

10. Dealing with Fan Behavior

The conversation shifts to fan interactions, exploring both supportive and toxic behaviors, and how the hosts navigate their relationships with their audience.

Notable Quotes:
Hannah [24:30]: "If people think that I was narcissistic on reality TV, I'd hate to see them today."
Paige [24:42]: "We have no gatekeeping what's saving my hair right now."

11. Embracing Personal Growth and Confidence

Paige shares her journey of embracing her natural curls and building confidence, while Hannah discusses her efforts to conquer her fear of driving, illustrating their commitment to personal growth.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [27:08]: "I'm embracing my curly hair and trying to stay tan till Thanksgiving."
Hannah [44:40]: "I'm really hard on myself."

12. Family Dynamics and Inside Jokes

The hosts share amusing anecdotes about family interactions during trips, highlighting the role of humor and inside jokes in strengthening familial bonds.

Notable Quotes:
Paige [40:56]: "Nothing unites a family more than picking on your dad or your mom."
Hannah [43:07]: "If my dad was here, he would have gotten it."

13. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Plans

As the episode wraps up, Hannah and Paige express gratitude to their listeners, tease upcoming topics, and share personal updates, maintaining their signature blend of humor and heartfelt conversation.

Notable Quotes:
Hannah [71:12]: "We're so sorry we didn't do an episode last week and honestly, we regret it."
Paige [73:15]: "That's the power of design. Design changes everything."

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Key Takeaways:

• Trusting Intuition: Reconnecting with one's gut instincts can lead to better personal decisions and heightened awareness of one's environment.
• Authenticity Matters: Maintaining genuine relationships and being kind to oneself are crucial for mental well-being.
• Navigating Social Dynamics: Whether it's at events or on social media, understanding and managing interactions is essential.
• Personal Growth: Embracing one's natural self and overcoming personal fears contributes to overall confidence and happiness.
• Impact of Reality TV: Reality shows like "Love Island" have profound effects on both participants and audiences, highlighting the need for responsible production and consumption.

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Note: This summary excludes all advertisement segments and focuses solely on the conversational content between Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo.

Transcript

[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

Here's the thing. There's beauty shopping and then there's Sephora. And if you know me, you know I do not play around when it comes to beauty. I only want to use the best products, and that's why I'm obsessed with shopping at Sephora. I love a haul, but I love getting advice from people who actually get it. Like, I want to walk in and I want experts. I don't want someone just pointing me to aisle 14 like I'm in a warehouse. At Sephora, you're getting real advice from people who live for this. Like, the color matching is on point. You find the perfect Kayali fragrance. Fragrance that literally make strangers stop you on the street or that day shampoo that gave me main character hair after one wash. And don't even get me started on rare beauty Soft Pinch Blush. You need it in your life. And you know, I grabbed the New House Labs lip oil and of course I stocked up on my Lineage Lip sleeping mask. I love the vanilla because it's non negotiable. I've tried dupes before, but nothing beats the stuff you get only at Sephora. Only Sephora can get you the best beauty products and the best experts clean. Go treat yourself. Your skin, your hair and your entire vibe will thank you. Sup, gigglers?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Gary, fix your wi fi.

[Hannah Berner]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah Berner]

Guess who's back. Guess who's back. Guess who's back. Paige is only letting me sing because she missed me so much.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I. It really feels like a month. Like it was one week we didn't do it. And I'm like, I'm foaming at the mouth.

[Hannah Berner]

What's that, TikTok? Did you guys miss me? Because I missed you.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I also feel like throughout my weeks, I'm like, oh, my God, I can't wait to tell Hannah this. Or like, I cannot wait to talk to Hannah about this. And then I Get on the pod. And I'm like, I forget everything.

[Hannah Berner]

You just blank. Because you get so excited. You're like that kid who's trying to tell a story, and you're like. And then this one time, and. And then they. And then they went. And then. But the truth is, is I realized it's like a purge every week for us. So, like, if we don't get that day of the week to purge everything, it starts.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It bottles up.

[Hannah Berner]

It bottles up. I'm not okay.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay. It also makes me realize that I. Like, if you died, like, I don't have a single other person in my life that I have the relationship with you. Like, the way I do with you. Like, if you just, like, disappeared, I'd be like, they'd have to commit me because I'd be so bottled up with things.

[Hannah Berner]

You don't have a healthy outlet.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I don't have a healthy outlet.

[Hannah Berner]

But I'd also argue that the things that we're like, we need to say stuff on Giggly Squad. None of them are important.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, Not a single one.

[Hannah Berner]

My first note that I have for this week is, French is for girls.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And where's the lie?

[Hannah Berner]

Men should not speak French. French is only a language for girls. Men do not say je ne sais quoi. That is a French girl word.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And honestly, if, like, your man says, do you want to go to Paris?

[Hannah Berner]

Gross. It has.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It has to be you giving him that information and then being like, yeah, we can go.

[Hannah Berner]

You have to trick him to go to Paris.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. Like, him coming up with the idea to go to Paris, even him saying.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, Jean Mapel, by the way, I don't know how to speak French because basically I wanted to learn French, but. And Des was like, should I learn it too? And I was like, oh, no, no. I got the ick. I was like, you could learn Italian or Spanish.

[Paige DeSorbo]

When I was like, when I was centering men in my life. A couple of years ago, I took the French class of 2016. That literally haunts me for my life. I started taking this French class because this guy I was dating told me I was not impressive because I didn't know another language.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, did you go in person?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Sure did. This was pre Covid. This is, like, things were in person. I went to, like, four classes of this French class, and I was just like, I don't even like this guy that much.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, so then did you go to the restaurant and you were like, oh, like, c' est la vie.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I learned how to ask for the track and that's the only thing I. I retained.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, a man said you're not impressed? Also, look, you with, like, the wrong finance bros.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I think about that guy all the. I, not that guy. I think about that moment all the time. Like, yeah, you're just like, not that impressive. And I was like, pardon.

[Hannah Berner]

But do you realize that's because he's insecure about himself?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah, I wanted to send him my time. The time 100 thing, but I think I'm blocked also.

[Hannah Berner]

Men blocking women. Not a thing. Men are not allowed to block women.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No.

[Hannah Berner]

That's petty ass behavior for women to do to other men or other women who have wronged them.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. I want to go on. If. If I want to date you, I want to go on your Instagram and I want to see, like, that you didn't post for like a whole year.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, a hundred percent.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You know, I want you to ask.

[Hannah Berner]

Me how to post an insta story.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You're like, how do you add sound? I want them to be like, if you. If I wanted to add sound, how would I.

[Hannah Berner]

If a man knows how to add the location and then change the font of the location sticker, I'm out. Yeah, I'm out. I love breaking up with imaginary relationships while I'm married.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Well, I would say you live through me a little bit.

[Hannah Berner]

No, fully. I'm like, I can't do this anymore. Last time people saw of us together was time 100.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

I was obsessed with your fit. You're going. You're going the high fashion direction that I want my Barbie doll to go in.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes or no? Are you annoyed that all day I send you vintage products that I can't wear and I send to you to get.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, I don't get mad at them at all.

[Hannah Berner]

Have you purchased any?

[Paige DeSorbo]

I think so.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay, good.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Not recently, I haven't. No.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay, we don't need that detail.

[Paige DeSorbo]

But like, in the course of you sending me things, have I ever purchased something from something you've sent me? Yes, actually, I'd even go as far to say, the other day I did an Amazon Live for Prime Day and your Super Bowl. My outfit. Literally, my. I kept getting comments like, your outfit is so Hannah coated. And this is a compliment to you because when I saw the outfit on Amazon, I go, oh, my God, that's so mew mew. But, like, it's Amazon and it was like this striped little set. Honestly, you would look adorable in it. I'm gonna send you the link.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, we are merging into the Same person.

[Paige DeSorbo]

We are like, I don't do my hair anymore.

[Hannah Berner]

Welcome to the dark side.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm literally an air dry queen. I'm an air. Here's my method. I'm an air dry queen. And then I throw a little Tresemme hairspray.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Then I do a little. What brand is it? It's like a. It's like a salt spray. I want to say it's whey. I want to say it's like a salt texture spray. Yeah, that's it. And then I'm like, hello.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, so you're just like not like other girls and like laid back? You're like low maintenance. Would you call yourself low maintenance now? You're some. Look, can we save for spade? A spade. What's happening? You're tan so you can look hot doing anything. If you were pale, you would need to get three hours of glam to go outside. Yeah, that's where we're at. Also, I do think, like, first of all, frizz in the summer is a thing you. You can either fight it or be one with it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Lean in.

[Hannah Berner]

Lean in. Also, if it's at the top of my head, I can't see it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. And again, the back of our head is really none of our business, but I want to say it's pretty wavy back there. Remember when I was convinced I had curly hair?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. That was. You were going through something where you were like, can you treat me differently? I'm a curly haired girl.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. Like respect my. Well, okay.

[Hannah Berner]

You gaslit yourself.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Look at that piece. That is curly.

[Hannah Berner]

It's wavy.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It's wavy.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay. Anywho, that none of this was even on the frickin docket.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, let's be honest, we never could get to anything on the docket.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay, so we're at the time party.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Paige DeSorbo]

First of all, we couldn't believe that we were even on the list, let alone like, did the photo shoot, did the interview. Like, it was just all very surreal. So we get invited to this cocktail party and we're getting our outfits, we're very excited. And I am a well trained cocktail party goer. I know the exact timing that I take my beta blocker where I'm going to arrive to said cocktail party. So we do our pictures, we do the little like step and repeat. We're upstairs, we're at the time where you're done mingling and you're gonna get a cocktail.

[Hannah Berner]

And the bar is crowded.

[Paige DeSorbo]

The bar is crowded.

[Hannah Berner]

It's not easy to get the cocktail.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Would you like to proceed from here because this is your story to tell.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, I have to say, when I get to a party, I enter hot. Like, I'm saying hi to everyone. Physically and emotionally, I was going to say. And physically, immediately my temperature rises.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

And I'm. I picked my dress, the white Versace, mainly because it's beautiful, but also because I'm like, I could sweat through this and no one would know.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

I had another dress I really liked, but I was like, this is going to be a nightmare because then you just become the sweaty girl that everyone remembers you as. Which is fine. I've been it before.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Don't put me in a box.

[Hannah Berner]

I just don't like to be typecast all the time. So we get there, we run into talon biggs.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

Ms. Taylor.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, she's just so freaking cute. I mean, I can't.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, she walked up to you, like, Paige, and you were like, you look gorgeous. And she was like, thank you. And then I was like, hey, it's Aunt Hannah. And you're like, isn't Aunt Hannah silly? And I'm like, look at me. Look at me. And she's like, I'm literally 11 years old. And, like, I don't understand the sense of humor.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, she is.

[Hannah Berner]

She's 13.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Ooh. That's like. No, I think she's like 11 or 12.

[Hannah Berner]

I think she's 11 or 12. She's so cute, so sweet. I can't imagine, like, she's going through the same stuff we are at that time party.

[Paige DeSorbo]

She has a better career than us.

[Hannah Berner]

No, I was like, what are you talking to people about? She's like, I'm networking. Leave me alone.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I was like, no, literally, she's kidding. She's a little professional. She's so. But here's the thing that is so amazing about her. She is a little professional, and it's almost like this is her, like, after school activity. She is still very much a innocent little girl. Like, she's still. Still is a little girl, you know.

[Hannah Berner]

To go full Disney.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, she's like, it's. And it's, like, very endearing. You know, like, everything she's doing is, like, fun for her.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. I did talk to her. I was like, do you enjoy interviewing? Because I love interviewing people.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

And she was like, I love it. It's my passion. And I was like, good. Because I have that, like, tennis PTSD where if I see a kid who's, like, really good at something, I'm like, are you enjoying it? Or someone forcing You?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

Are you happy? She was like, hannah, I'm networking. I can't deal with this right now.

[Paige DeSorbo]

She was, you're on my hair. Can you please.

[Hannah Berner]

No. She looks so cute. And then we said hi to, like, our peeps, and then the heat started to hit, me in particular. And I looked at you, and I was like, it's very. It's very hot. It's 85 degrees.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And I wasn't really, like. I was beta blockered up. So you looked at me.

[Hannah Berner]

You go, I took a beta blocker. And I was like. You looked at me. You look me up and down. You go. You didn't. Left me for dead.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I was like, why are you freaking out? Did you not medicate before we arrived? And you were like, I literally forgot.

[Hannah Berner]

I didn't. You know, I'm actually. I'm not that bad with those social events. I'm more bad at, like, a group dinner.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah, you're bad at a more intimate.

[Hannah Berner]

Setting, like that middle intimacy. Like, if it's with two people, I'm great. If it's with 500 people, I'm great. But if it's like, seven, I don't know the rules.

[Paige DeSorbo]

See, the time party is my exact. Like, if it's like 150 people on a rooftop, I'm anxious.

[Hannah Berner]

See, look here. I thrive. Because you. You're just running around. Hi, hi, hi.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Hi.

[Hannah Berner]

You're running around. My problem was temperature. So, long story short, we eventually lock eyes and you're out to lunch. Who knows? You are high as a kite. You're in a happy place. You are literally.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm taking pictures. I'm meeting people, I'm networking.

[Hannah Berner]

People are just putting cameras in front of your face, and you're just smiling.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm posing. I'm literally. I'm never in this mood. I'm having a great time. I'm actually in my head thinking I might get a cocktail at this event, like, I'm having.

[Hannah Berner]

I was at the point where I was like, water. I was struggling. I'm freaking out. I look at you, you're calm, A little eerily calm. And I go, I think. I think it's time we should get out of here. And you don't hear me. So I'm like, did you hear me or what? So I repeat, I'm like, we should leave. You still don't respond because you're. Who knows what you're thinking about? And I go, look at me. Do you want to leave? And you go, oh, my God.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Of course. The only thing Better than having a good time is leaving. So, like, I could be having a great time. But if someone says, hey, let's get out of here, I'm like, that's also.

[Hannah Berner]

I like to leave on top. I'm not leaving on a low. I'm not having an awkward conversation then getting out. I'm getting on a high. I'm having such a good last sentence with a group. Everyone's laughing. I go, that's my time. Thank you so much. I'm here till Wednesday. Get in the elevator, get out. So I don't have to think about anything I said that might be going around the party at this point.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Best idea wins. And at that. And that night, it was your idea, and that was to leave. And so literally everyone's leaving, like, this one area to go to, like, this other area where, like, the bar is really popping off. And our Irish exit was actually in one of the top five Irish exits I've ever done in my life, I've.

[Hannah Berner]

Ever seen in history.

[Paige DeSorbo]

As we're walking by the elevator, one magically opens. We pop our bodies right in there. We say, sir, press that button as.

[Hannah Berner]

Fast as you can. We felt like spies. Like, I. We talked with our eyes the whole time. We were like, sir, get us home. You didn't see anything.

[Paige DeSorbo]

We are very honored to be on the list and invited to the party.

[Hannah Berner]

Thank you so much. No, we had so much fun. There was so many amazing people from, like, so many different entertainment areas. It was just very cool. But I have to say, New York City in the summer is not for the week.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It's absolutely not. And those rooftops, like, you think because you're outside and you're on a rooftop, you're getting ventilation. You're not.

[Hannah Berner]

No.

[Paige DeSorbo]

The air is not flowing. It's stagnant.

[Hannah Berner]

Because all the air is getting sucked up by other succubuses. Because there's 200 people and everyone's fighting over the same air.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And everyone's just. Everyone's full glam, so no one wants to come close to you because you're sticky. And then, like, everyone's glowing.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Because they're so hot and sweaty.

[Hannah Berner]

Also, it's one of those things where I've saw so many people that, like, I know online, and I message a lot of people. Like, once you message someone once, you're best friends, right?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

Is that the rule? So then I was obviously forgetting if I met them in person or not, and that I had that same conversation, like, eight times. And I was like, okay, we gotta Go. We gotta go.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You want to know why else? I was calm. I had gotten the shot before we got there.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, you did a whole ice cream.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Photo shoot, and that's what it was. And that's. And I just realized that, wait, I was going in with no pressure for.

[Hannah Berner]

People who don't understand about Getty Images. I'm gonna explain it to you right now, because I didn't. Now I do. So you get glam for, like, two to three hours, depending on who you are. And then you show up to an event. And I don't know about you, but I still, like, kind of shake on.

[Paige DeSorbo]

The red carpet every single time. I, like, forget how to pose.

[Hannah Berner]

I'm like, why am I shaking?

[Paige DeSorbo]

I literally look like a Lego square on every red carpet. Because I, like, forget to turn my body or put my hand anywhere.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, because you also. They give you literally 22 seconds or less.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Here's the other thing. So many people are watching you.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, my God. If anyone watches me do anything, I'll forget how to speak English.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. So I'm like, can you guys look away?

[Hannah Berner]

No, you're like, can you guys stop? Well, someone got a video of me from the side. Yeah. I don't know. I was trying to, like, stick my chin out. Like, I looked insane posture from the side, but the front, it looks normal.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And then, you know, the pictures are coming out, and then, you know, people are going to be like. And that's what she chose to wear. You're like. So you can hear it in your head as you're doing it. You're like, everyone hates this dress.

[Hannah Berner]

And then it's over in a second.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And then you're like, thank you so much.

[Hannah Berner]

I've walked off the carpet before and then, like, looked in the mirror and been like, oh, my hair's completely standing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Straight up because my dress wasn't pulled down. I was.

[Hannah Berner]

Yes. You get out of the Uber and immediately, like, go on the carpet. And you're like, you, my belly button. Sweating. But the stress is that, yeah, everyone sees these photos. These photos then get picked up multiple times throughout the year whenever anyone wants to write a story about you. So it's not like they take a photo like a. And you never see it again. Like, this photo lives forever, and it's.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Usually the worst one you've ever taken in your life. I. I'm not kidding. I have a photo. The first year of Bravo Con, when no one warned us in 2017. That haunts the fuck out of me. I know whenever someone writes a story about me. And they don't like me because they use that photo and I'm like, oh, you're fucking op.

[Hannah Berner]

They came for you.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

And it's funny because they take a bunch of photos, but they choose their favorite ones, which also, let's be honest, no one chooses the photos you actually like of yourself because everyone sees themselves in a weird way. And that's just like our. Our messed up psychology. But you take these photos and then you can't enjoy the event because you're like, checking to see when they go up to know if you wasted your entire day for a bad photo.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Uh huh. Uh huh.

[Hannah Berner]

And that sounds so depressing to say, but I need to I keep it real with you guys on Giggly Squad. This is what's going on in our heads. But I actually liked my Getty photo. And I realized it's because I was tan.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You know what else I liked? Our Getty photo together, which rarely happens.

[Hannah Berner]

That's the thing. The photos come in a page. The photos come in of me, the photos come in of us both. Sometimes one of us looks good, then it's a whole thing. Can I post this photo and I sacrifice myself sometimes? You'd sacrifice yourself to. You're very. You have done that before.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You can see the level of connection you have with your friend based on when she sends, can I post this photo and how much your friend loves you or not if she says yes or no.

[Hannah Berner]

Because I will look at myself and be like, don't love that. But then I'll look at you and I'll be like, she deserves it. She does. She earned that one. She can. That's so true. But I also love that we still send to each other for approval.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Well, we're not monsters, you know, we're girls.

[Hannah Berner]

Girls.

[Paige DeSorbo]

We're not just gonna post.

[Hannah Berner]

I hate when someone asks for approval and then when they post it, they've added like a strange filter on it. I'm like, nope, didn't approve that. That draft.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Or I've seen photos where people, like, edit themselves and then not you. And I'm like, hey, throw a girl a teeth whitener once in a while.

[Hannah Berner]

I mean, look at yours. Now look at mine now. I look like I. I'm from England.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Wait, I had such an interesting thing happen to me on Instagram the other day. That's never happened. And I've always, like, wondered. I'm scrolling. I'm just like, doing my nighttime scroll, nothing crazy. I see a picture. I don't even now I can't even remember who the picture was of a celebrity, though. And a carousel of an outfit. So I'm scrolling through the outfit and, like, I like to look at the comments to see, like, where is certain things from. I saw someone that I know in the comments making a rude comment, and it's like seeing your teacher outside of school. Like, not that I really knew this person very well, but, like, I recognized the name and I saw the profile picture, and I was like, oh, I know that person. And the comment was like, I'm just so annoyed that I can't think of who the celebrity was. Was commenting on this celebrity's appearance. And I was like, oh, my God. I immediately unfollowed the person because I was like, that's so weird. You're a person that comments mean things on people's Instagrams. And it's just never happened to me before where I saw, like, a legit person I knew, and I feel. It felt weird.

[Hannah Berner]

I've seen that before where I'm like, oh, they have this whole side to them.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

That I didn't. It's jarring. It also reminds me a little bit of, like, if I see someone come for someone on reality tv, like, super hard, like, to the point that they're bullying them, I get. I'm like, guys, that could be you tomorrow. Let's. I. We have, like, a weird perspective because we've been on both ends. What did. What's the quote? Sometimes you're the dog, Sometimes you're the thing they pee on.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You know, I'm not familiar with that one, but I'm going to choose to.

[Hannah Berner]

Believe you because Marilyn Monroe said it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I mean, sometimes I've seen my girlfriends in the comments where they're like, where is this from? And I'm like, she's so, so cute.

[Hannah Berner]

See, I'm that person that's like, obnoxiously hype, where it's probably like, hannah, calm down. Like, you don't need 800. Like, if I was a guy, I'd be creepy. Like, why do you need 800? Fire emojis at your friend's selfie?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Like, I sent you and said I was posting.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, I know. I have a new word, like, lingo for us in life. Gigglers. Get your notebooks.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

You know when you meet someone, which this is, like, very common for you because you're a Scorpio and their vibes are just off.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Mm.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, you're talking to people and you can't figure it out. Like, you don't like them and you don't know why, but it's definitely something. The way I describe it now is sinister energy. Yeah. Like, I was describing actually a man from my past and. And the girls explaining and they're like, how would you describe him? I was just like, sinister energy. And she's like, I know exactly what you're saying. It's just like something is fucking off. And I love the word sinister.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay, our final episode of Penny Page Try New Things is coming out. Well, when you're listening to this tonight when we. We do a psychic reading in it. And one of the things in the psychic reading that she says is like, the past couple of months, I was having a hard time trusting my intuition, which I actually said to a therapist. Like, I was like, I'm so good at, like, listening to my gut. In the past couple of months, I felt like, I don't know, I can't listen to my gut. Like, it's almost like it's not speaking to me literally. From the start of the summer, like, not going back to reality tv, I feel like my intuition has almost been on another level. Like, to the point where I can walk into a room and not even look around the room and feel like the energy is sinister and be like, I have to move. Or like, I have been in rooms recently where I'm like, I gotta go. I don't like it in here. And. And it's so weird because I was like, watching that our clips, like, back, and I felt that. Like, it's almost like I felt it come back. Like, I felt my gut come back.

[Hannah Berner]

I feel like it's more than coming back. I feel like when you lose yourself and then you find yourself after losing yourself, it's so much fucking stronger because you're like, I'm not letting you go. And we know not to question ourselves now because we question ourselves for what? For what?

[Paige DeSorbo]

If people think that I was narcissistic on reality tv, I'd hate to. For them to meet me today. I'm obsessed with myself recently. I've never been more obsessed with myself.

[Hannah Berner]

Where, like, number one fan, fan behavior.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Like, recently I've just been like, like, oh, my God, good job. To myself. In my head, I'm like, even if it's like an outfit, I'm like, wait, sick outfit. Like, good job.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, you're being nice to yourself.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah, like, I'm being really nice to myself recently, I feel like. And I'm like, wait, I love this. My life. I'm like, I'm having so much.

[Hannah Berner]

I love My life mental health moment. Sometimes I've actually had those moments in my darkest times where I, like, needed to be nice to myself or I wasn't gonna make it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

And I've actually sometimes been my happiest during a time where, like, other people might think I wasn't because I literally, like, had to sit down and, like, actively be supportive because no one else was. But then sometimes when things are going well for me is when I start to nitpick, and I'll be like. Because I'm, like, bored. And I'm like, yeah, let's get mad at this, mad at that.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

But sometimes.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Or, like, you do something and you're like, well, this actually could have been better about that. Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

Because you're, like, taking things for granted where when you lose everything, you suddenly, like, find gratitude again. Not to be like. But anyway, the ups and downs, it's like just navigating your perspective on yourself.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Well, also, I think I obviously went through such a. I'm going through such a transition period because before I left Summer House, I, like, made the decision that I wanted to leave, but in my gut, I was like, but how are you going to feel mid summer when you're not filming and when it comes out and you're not on?

[Hannah Berner]

You'll never know.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Until truly, in my head, I was like, well, I won't know, and I'll have to deal with it then. And so I think this summer, like, so many different things have happened, and I've just been like, wait. I think I. I made. I feel like I really did make the right decision for, like, my life overall. And I feel like that was part of, like. No, you trusted your. Your gut actually was right when you made the decision decision initially, and now you're feeling the benefits of it and you're. I'm, like, proud of myself for trusting my gut.

[Hannah Berner]

I also think there aren't necessarily, like, right or wrong decisions. It's more that, like, when you say something with your chest and you fully commit to it, the universe responds to it. Like, I do think there's a version of you that if you didn't really believe it and half ass left the show, you could be twiddling your thumbs right now and questioning it. But you fully committed, trusted yourself, and the universe is like, oh, let's go. Like, let's do what now. I do.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And now I'm embracing my curly hair and being and trying to stay tan till Thanksgiving. Like, life is amazing.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay, Paige, one thing I love, keeping the gigglers abreast about? I've never said abreast before.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It's an important vocab word is sales. Yes.

[Hannah Berner]

Sales are really important because I hate shopping and wasting money. I want to save money. And that's why I'm excited to announce the Nordstrom anniversary sale.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And sometimes I feel like people think like, oh, it's the summer, they're having a sale, they're getting rid of old stuff. No, no, no, no, no. This is new arrivals. They're just doing something for the girls and they're having a sale. And they have so many brands like Ugg, Charlotte Tilbury, Steve Madden and you're scoring great looks for under a hundred dollars which are perfect for trips. Summer weddings, fall weddings, everyday glam.

[Hannah Berner]

I feel like my styles evolved. I used to buy like really trendy, cheap pieces that literally would evaporate by the next season. Like I'd be like, this is ripped full of marinara sauce. Now I'm enjoying finding like high quality items on sale. That's like my thing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And also Nordstrom is so fun because if you've never gone to any of their in store events, you can go and then like it's just easy shopping.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. And they have freestyle help. Free shipping returns, online order pickup, like make it easy for the girls. Thank you. Also, they've up to 33 off. Like that's sturdy, that's hefty. The sale runs from July 12th to August 3rd and you don't want to miss it because then the prices go right back up, you know.

[Paige DeSorbo]

So whether you're looking to refresh your closet or stock up on your beauty faves, especially once a year beauty exclusives, head to Nordstrom.com or your local Nordstrom store. And remember, this is not a drill. It's not a clearance rack situation. It's your dream. Brands on sale.

[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

I think always you love a one piece. Wait, can we talk about my White Lotus look just for, like, a quick second?

[Hannah Berner]

Yes. That's actually, I think what inspired that note.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay, so I was watching White Lotus, and when that episode came out, the girl, I think her name was Chloe in the show, she had this outfit on. I literally took a picture of the TV screen, put it into Google images, and was like, I need to find all of this. This figured out that it was a custom Jacques Mousse look. So I was like, oh, he's definitely gonna make it for the masses. He made the skirt in a version, but it wasn't like, to the floor and it wasn't like how she wore it on tv. So I was, like, annoyed by him for that moment. But whatever, I digress, I digress. So I, like, literally just found everything that looked similar through, like, a Google Image search. And then I got that hat in Italy when I was there. Like, I saw it in the window, and I was like, that's. I need that for my White Lotus look.

[Hannah Berner]

Which season from White Lotus?

[Paige DeSorbo]

The most recent.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, my God.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And then I saw Patrick Schwarzenegger in the pool, and I was just like, you know what? This is cosmic.

[Hannah Berner]

And you go, somebody's gonna die.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Like, my look is amazing.

[Hannah Berner]

I think also with fashion and your confidence, like, confidence is a thing too. Like, if you wear something and own it verse, like, not really believe in it. There's also a time, I think, where do you ever get. You were stressed out? Like, every outfit was like, doomsday. Like, fuck, are people going to hate it? Versus when you're in your power and you're like, these bitches aren't even ready for this fit.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Well, I think I literally, like, exhibited that before I went to Italy. I was like, I have no outfits. Like, almost. Because I was like, people rag on me, like, so much sometimes for my outfits that I'm in my head. I'm almost like, low expectations. Like, oh, I don't have anything. It's not good.

[Hannah Berner]

Blew it out of the park.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And that was, like, me being, like, mean to myself.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Paige DeSorbo]

But, like, while I was there, I was just having, like, the best time I've ever had there. And I was just, like, leaning into my outfits. I literally had a day where I was like, dad, I'm gonna put three outfits on, and I need you to take my picture.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay. That was what I want to ask. Who is taking the photos?

[Paige DeSorbo]

My dad. My dad is. I have trained my dad like no other man. Actually, a lot of my good pictures were taken on my G7X, but my dad doesn't really love using the digital camera. You know, and I quote, he said, I can rapid fire better on the phone. So that's what I like to use. But I'm like, dad, there's a certain aesthetic with the digital, and so it takes too long to click down the button. So he gets angry, but he gets the job done, and he literally stays until the routine is finished. And I. His commitment is. That's why I can't. I can't get married. Because whose commitment to the shot is ever gonna be as good as his? No.

[Hannah Berner]

What's Kim doing?

[Paige DeSorbo]

You honestly. You want to know what Kim weaponizes? Her incompetence. I know that bitch could get it, but she rather say, oh, your dad likes doing it. Your dad can do it. And it's actually. This is a perfect example of if you work harder, you actually get the job, rather than someone who might be more qualified.

[Hannah Berner]

And. And, you know, What? Gary believes in himself. I don't know why or how, but he does.

[Paige DeSorbo]

He tries and tries again, and it's gone to the point where I can use lingo. I'm like, it's too much headroom. And.

[Hannah Berner]

You go, make sure the light's hitting my left cheekbone.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm like, do you see how you're tilting? It's making me look shorter than I actually am. I'm gonna need you to come up. And so, like, he takes direction well.

[Hannah Berner]

You're. He's a full on production team.

[Paige DeSorbo]

He really is.

[Hannah Berner]

And the tick tock with him really made me laugh.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And he loves doing tiktoks.

[Hannah Berner]

Speaking of family, I get an email saying audition, and I was like, oh, I'm back in the game.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yep.

[Hannah Berner]

For Vera de Leo.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You're a manager.

[Hannah Berner]

And I. So my dream is obviously to make Nana a star. And I don't know how it happened, but it's like for a legit show on Netflix. And I. Sorry. Start reading the description and it's like 80 year old Italian woman.

[Paige DeSorbo]

What? Wait, what? Giggler is at Netflix? It's like, I have the exact grandma. I know the exact.

[Hannah Berner]

Somebody was like, get Hannah's contact because she's the manager. So I'm like, oh, my God, this is amazing. I click on the script and it's like paragraphs.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

Which, you know, Nana had a stroke a couple years ago. Nana. I don't want to put pressure on stress on her. Yeah. So I actually sat on it for like a day. I'm like, do I even want Nana to stress out? But then I'm like, whatever. So I call her and she's like, so calm. She's like, I'm ready. And I'm like, so you're gonna like, you want to practice with me and stuff? And she's like, I'll see you tomorrow. We'll film it. It.

[Paige DeSorbo]

She. She memorized it.

[Hannah Berner]

She memorized. But we also use like a little script to help her read it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

She sits down so calm.

[Paige DeSorbo]

She's a star.

[Hannah Berner]

Embodies this.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Like, it was like you wanted to cry. You almost cried.

[Hannah Berner]

I was like, how'd you get that Brooklyn accent so good? Like, she was. I wanted to cry. Like, obviously, it's very hard to book things, so I'm not saying she's gonna book anything, but I'm just so proud of her.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay, here's. But here's the other thing. What a core memory for her. Even doing it with you. Like, even filming it and getting. And the fact that her granddaughter is in a position where she's getting these emails like that alone. It's like she did it well, Nana.

[Hannah Berner]

Her whole thing, she loves Hollywood. And I feel like she always wanted to be a part of Hollywood, but her life just went a different way. But she dressed like she was a Hollywood starlet and she showed me every Marilyn Monroe movie, Esther Williams, Singing in the Rain, Frank Sinatra. Like, that's how I was raised. With this, like, love. Yes. So then for. At 84, for her to have her first audition.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Like, guys, no, that's nice.

[Hannah Berner]

Life is crazy.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Crazy.

[Hannah Berner]

You can start an acting career at 84. So Nana, she's going to be booked and busy. But the best thing is she goes, I'm like, when can you come over? She goes, I'm getting my hands on. Yeah, at noon because my hair looks horrible right now. I'll come over at 1:30 and we'll shoot it. I said, get your glam done then. So I'm shout out to Nana. I'm so proud of her.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm so proud of her.

[Hannah Berner]

So if you are listening, Netflix booker.

[Paige DeSorbo]

One more thing I was gonna say about Italy because you know how, like, certain inside jokes will, like, happen on a trip and then, like, they last the trip. That's like, I feel like the sign of a good trip.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. Yep. So true.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And like, at the end of our family trips, we always go around and say, like, okay, what was your favorite part of the trip? And like, it's unanimous. It's always like, something my dad has done on the trip or like something he said. And my brother's girlfriend is like a pure angel. And I knew that he was going to be, like, obsessed with her on this trip because she could speak Italian. And so, like, he him. And I also figured out that he has anxiety. I digress. Because he won't, like, say the word anxiety. But when he's ordering something, he gets nervous. Like, okay, you know, we'll dive into.

[Hannah Berner]

Why are you holding my hand?

[Paige DeSorbo]

When we're back in America.

[Hannah Berner]

But this is a pretty big sign.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm just sitting at dinner, like, rocking back and forth, like, oh, no, you're perfectly normal. He's like, freaking out, about to order. So he's like, really would, like, just like, hit her on the arm and be like, you know, do it. Like, I'm nervous. Whatever. So the one day we're at breakfast and my brother's girlfriend is not. She's not like, super health conscious, but she's like a normal girl. Like, the one day she was like, I can't eat anymore. Like, I have to have, like, a yogurt. So we're at breakfast and she puts in her dish, like, yogurt, some fruit, a little granola, and then chia seeds.

[Hannah Berner]

She's going, sweet.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. She's going, just. She's just having a little parfait. And we're all watching my dad watch her make his yogurt parfait. Whilst on his plate, he's got cut up tomatoes, prosciutt, and mozzarella cheese at 9am okay. So he's looking at her almost, like, in disgust, and he goes. And so her final topping was chia seeds. And he's never seen that in his life. He has no idea what a chia seed is.

[Hannah Berner]

He goes, that's made up. That's a made up thing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And so he looks at her and he goes, what is that? And she goes, oh, these are chia seeds. Like, they're really good for X, Y and Z. My dad responds to her and he goes, yeah, I had a hamster one time, ate shit like that.

[Hannah Berner]

Tell her how you really feel, Gar.

[Paige DeSorbo]

For the entire rest of the trip, anytime anyone would say anything, we'd say, yeah, I had a hamster who ate shit like that. That is so funny. No, it's so good. But my brother's girlfriend is literally obsessed with my dad, and all we did was make fun of him the whole time. But it was just one of those jokes that, like, will live on.

[Hannah Berner]

No, that can bring a family together. A broken family can become a home again.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, it literally, like, unite. Nothing unites a family more than picking on your dad or your mom.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, my dad is literally, like, the funniest person I know. And he loves a callback.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

And he can make, like, anything funny. And recently he does this thing. I think it's a Seinfeld reference, you know? And, like, you just don't even know where things started, but it's become a thing. Yeah. So if you're, like, in a house and, like, there's a weird sound and there's an awkward moment where everyone's scared, my dad will just go. My dad would just go, Mr. Peoples. So literally whenever there's, like, an awkward moment or any quiet, he just goes, Mr. Peoples.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, you are your dad.

[Hannah Berner]

So I was literally watching Dez's brothers play tennis, and this is my problem. I'll do inside jokes without reading the room. Yeah. I'm sitting next to Des's cool nephew, and they're, like, arguing over a Point. And it's, like, getting quiet. And I just go, Mr. Peoples.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And did anyone say anything?

[Hannah Berner]

He's like, what? What does that mean? I'm like, I don't know if it's awkward or you hear a weird sound. Oh, yeah. I don't know. There was a sound from the garage, and dad just goes, what was that? And I go, Mr. People.

[Paige DeSorbo]

He's like, if my dad was here.

[Hannah Berner]

He would have gotten it. No. But then Kieran started laughing, and that's, as you know, enabling me. And once they get enabled. You can't stop me.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No.

[Hannah Berner]

So anyway, shout out to dads for, like.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. Shout out to dads everywhere.

[Hannah Berner]

You know, quick update. Speaking of dads who I don't want to disappoint. My road test is officially on Friday. I had a therapy appointment this morning. What do you think I talked about the whole time?

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, I literally texted Hannah. I was like, I can do the pot a little earlier if you can. She was like, sorry, I'm in therapy, intensive therapy. And I have. I have road test practice.

[Hannah Berner]

After last week, I was supposed to have a test with Greg. He called me. He's on vacation, left me for dead, Start freaking out. And then I'm like, okay, I'll drive with Des, which I don't. It tests your marriage.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I mean, I could imagine we lasted.

[Hannah Berner]

Like, a full hour. And then he was like, I need to go home. Like, this is. It's scary. Like, it's scary if I'm, like, having nervous moments. But I have another. I had driving test. Driving lesson yesterday. Driving lesson today. And I was talking to my therapist because I said, if I fail, which is, let's be honest, 50. 50. Yeah, it's 50. 50. At this point, I go, I feel like I'm gonna disappoint the community.

[Paige DeSorbo]

The community. No one gives a shit.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, that's what she told me. She was like, if your friend is disappointed in you because you can't drive, I go, well, they already are.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No, but let's take this back as minutes.

[Hannah Berner]

I just want to say I'm really hard on myself. And, like, certain things, if I'm not confident in it, I get, like. So, like, I have bad anxiety about it, basically. So, Gary, me and you, we can hold hands, but I'm preparing as much as I can.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Please don't blame us, because we don't give a shit. It's really. You would be disappointing yourself because you feel like you've put the time in and the effort, but if you fail, we don't Care. I'd prefer you to fail because I actually don't think you should get a license at this point. If you haven't figured it out since now. I think you have so many other qualities. I'll drive your kids around because I'm. I'm actually nervous.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, that's the thing. I'm like, if I fail, that means I have more work to do and I shouldn't be out in the streets outside.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And you shouldn't be disappointed. You should just put pen to paper again. And. Yes, like, because it's not safe.

[Hannah Berner]

Speaking of pen to paper, I'm going to get a notepad and I'm gonna write. I'm gonna pass my driver's test 100 times. So that's what I'm doing this week.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Speaking about bringing pen to paper. The discourse on the Internet recently about everything, anything. Let's bring back journaling. Let's bring back bringing pens and paper. Let's bring back. That's an inside thought. The outside thoughts have been getting insane.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, people get attention by saying whatever. Like, the crazier the thought, the more views. And we're in this attention economy right now.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Well, I think it was really. It was very interesting to watch people watch Love island as, like, a Love island fan for many, many years, and as someone who loves, like, just started watching Love island usa and I'm an og, uk and even Australia, to see how out it was. It was so interesting to see how our country specifically could not handle it. Could not handle it.

[Hannah Berner]

Can you tell me, like, what actually happened? I mean, no spoilers or spoilers.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. I'm going to be so honest. I fell off.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Once I went to Italy because I was like, I'm on vacation. Like, I just, like, I was distracted by pesto. No, literally. And once you miss three episodes, pack it funny. You're. Unless you have a full day to dedicate it to. So I'm gonna be honest. I fell off. But I knew enough to watch on Tick Tock that, like, I literally knew what was going on. So many different things that I think were just casting and production and, like, social. Social media is so much now that it's like people are like, oh, you know, they're coming on just to be influencers. Yeah. No.

[Hannah Berner]

Why they are influencing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Why the else are they going on a reality show other than to change their life monetarily and not have to go back to their jobs? Yeah. Why is that, like, so crazy for people to understand? But there weren't real love connections, which I totally Understand the viewer being upset by that.

[Hannah Berner]

Oh, so no one found love?

[Paige DeSorbo]

I mean, not really. And not until, like, the very end. It just was a very unique season.

[Hannah Berner]

I thought everyone loved each other in the beginning.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah, kind of. But it was just unique in terms of Love island in general. Like the uk. I've never seen this in the uk, but it was truly because social media people just couldn't handle it being every single night in live. I mean, the things that they were saying. This one girl came on. She came on as in, like casa. Just like this blonde, normal girl. Whatever. She had obviously had done a lot of plastic surgery in terms of, like, filler or like lip injections. By no means was this girl the craziest girl I've ever looked at in my life. But could you tell that she had had her lips up for sure. Was she a cute girl? Yes, she was like a normal, cute little girl.

[Hannah Berner]

Majority of girls in that house probably have their lips done right.

[Paige DeSorbo]

The way the people eviscerated this girl was so shocking and mind blowing that I actually was like, we don't deserve Love Island. We actually don't deserve this show as a whole.

[Hannah Berner]

It's fucking Hunger Games. Because you know what? It's at the point where these people do have power to become very wealthy, but they also can have their lives completely ruined. And there's been many trigger warning like mental health issues and suicide that's come out of Love island and reality in general. So with that said, the people feel like they're able to be like Caesar and give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to people that you see for 15 minutes on a show where the producers are trying to frame them into a character that fits with a storyline that they're not even. They don't even know about.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. Love island, like, production had to post every week. Please be nice to the contestants. Just to let you know, they don't. They're not seeing any of this when they get out. This is going to be very shocking for them. Like, it also, this is a hot.

[Hannah Berner]

Take, but I saw a lot of people, like, I guess Amaya ended up being like, the favorite. And people are like, this is the girl we want to make rich. This is the girl we want.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It was so mean to her. So mean to her when she first got on in the beginning.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay. Because that's where I was confused. But then it's like the highs and the lows, it's like whiplash. Because, like. Like, as someone who's been on reality TV and you literally Physically were there. When you're standing there with all these people, a lot of it's giving similar energy. These are just young people having fun. But then once the edit comes out, people are put as, like, different characters.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And different characters as they should. Because you're watching an entertainment show.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. Their job is to turn people hanging out into a story of some kind that has to involve ups and downs of villains and angels, whatever.

[Paige DeSorbo]

What? I don't. People are so loud and so wrong, too. It's also like, they're not editing the show. Like, people are like, I can't believe she said that. Then it's like she. Like, she. It was a larger conversation. What are you talking about? Like, they're not picking what's on the show.

[Hannah Berner]

I used to love reality tv where, like, I love the entertainment of it. But I wasn't leaving feeling, like, pissed off at a character. Like, I was never mad at anyone. Like, I was like, that was a great episode.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Great episode. And we grew up with Real Housewives of New York OG like, and we weren't leaving mad at them. We were like, that was a crazy night. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Hannah Berner]

Vanderpump rules. Like, you just appreciated the art form of it all.

[Paige DeSorbo]

So the renaissance of it, a Stasi slap is it gives renaissance. Like, and we.

[Hannah Berner]

And we heard around the world.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And we weren't going to her and threatening her family. Like, it was just like, oh, that was a crazy episode. And let's keep it moving because I have work in the morning.

[Hannah Berner]

100, 100. So I do think we have to appreciate the art form. But these poor people. I think, you know, what I think is going to happen? They're going to just have to start doing AI people on reality tv. And I'm telling you, it's going to be exactly the same.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Wait, speaking of, I saw an article the other day, and it was like this influencer. Like, did you see that?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah.

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. And things need to be illegal.

[Hannah Berner]

There's. The Internet is going to take us all down. And I'm saying that right now, things.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Need to literally be elite. Like, I. They need to get a handle on AI before. I mean, you could make any video of someone saying anything.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. The poor parents that are sending videos of, you know, cats flipping burgers thinking it's real, you know, but also. So, yeah, we're just in a very fucking strange place.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It's strange.

[Hannah Berner]

I love how we started so high and now we've gone so dark at the end. The world's gonna end, but at least we have each other.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Classic us.

[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

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[Paige DeSorbo]

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[Hannah Berner]

1 positivity me not having a driver's license is apparently people who drive tend to get more sunburns. So my skin is really good because I'm actually I'm in the. I'm in the front seat anyway so I don't know if that's true.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Right. And I love to the Idea of getting a little suntan in the car.

[Hannah Berner]

True.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Like, let's be productive sitting there. I've actually truly have reverted back that since this is my first summer in so many summers having, like, I can do whatever I want. I've truly reverted back to high school summer page. All I care about is getting tan, wearing cute outfits, and, like, texting boys. Like, it's literally all I care about. I'm like, what am I wearing this weekend? Like, what's my text back?

[Hannah Berner]

You're like an alien that just discovered what summer is.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. I'm like, wait, this is so let's get a cocktail outside.

[Hannah Berner]

I love how you never want to drink before. And now you're like, should I party?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Wait. I actually sent a message to a few people, and I said, what are your thoughts on, like, doing, like, a day party situation one day this summer? Like, going to, like, a day party place? And they were like, no, we're almost 40.

[Hannah Berner]

That's crazy, because I taught Dez on burner phone this week what a dardie is. He was like, you made that up. And I'm like, it's a day party, Darty. You never heard about darties? And then you fall asleep.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You want to know what? That's probably a very millennial college.

[Hannah Berner]

So Millennial. Oh, my God. Someone was at Wimbledon. One of my friends was at Wimbledon, and I posted fomo, but I put tennis balls as the O's. And then I screenshot it and I sent it to Grace, and I was like, am I a millennial jail?

[Paige DeSorbo]

And she said, absolutely.

[Hannah Berner]

She was like, I'm blocking her name. Oh, one more thing about Love Island.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

As someone who hasn't watched it, the Heart rate challenge made me laugh, though, because I was like, what's heart Rate challenge for millennials? Like, is it like, when you see the dishwasher get too full, your heart rate goes up?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Wait. You know, I had a very niche one today.

[Hannah Berner]

What?

[Paige DeSorbo]

It doesn't even have to be a doctor's office. Honestly, it was like a CVS whenever I have a missed call and, like, a voicemail for, like, something that I have to get, like, a prescription. I'm literally getting, like, a skin prescription. I'm getting tretinoin back. Going back to tretinoin. I got a pimple injected the other day, and I started doing Laser Genesis.

[Hannah Berner]

What's Laser Genesis? That sounds like.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay, this. Hold on. We need to have a page. Sounds like a UFO for the pages. Listen up.

[Hannah Berner]

Doodle on your notebook.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Occupy yourselves. Okay, so I get a lot of messages from girls asking, like, what lasers I've done. Because we're so vocal about, like, not having Botox yet.

[Hannah Berner]

I've never got one message like that. Continue.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Right. So my one girlfriend sells pretty much all of the devices that go into dermatologists offices. So, like, she'll always, like, send me, like, what she thinks I should do or like, what dermatologist, whatever. So I texted her the other day and I was like, I have a pimple and I need to go to a dermatologist immediately, if not sooner, tomorrow morning to get it injected. She was like, I literally have the perfect one for you. It's right by my apartment. I go, she injects my pimple and she's like, let's start Laser Genesis. This, it's supposed to help with hyperpigmentation, building collagen, hydration, fine lines. It's supposed to be like, everything before botox.

[Hannah Berner]

Got it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You do a series of, like, I think she said, like, six sessions. And she recommends doing a series of six sessions twice a year. So I'm starting with, I just did my first appointment. I go again in two weeks. I think I did it once before, but I never, like, followed up and completed, like, all the sessions.

[Hannah Berner]

Do you have to stay out of the sun?

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. Downtime. Zero. Like, you get the laser and then you go same as like, if you were like, going about your day, like you're putting moisturizer on and sunscreen, but nothing, like, crazy pain level, nothing. And I don't have a high pain tolerance. I mean, I do when it comes to beauty stuff, but, like, if I can do it, it's fine. It's like a little hot, but it doesn't feel anything close to, like, laser hair removal.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, I got my butthole laser.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah, so you're fine. So I'm gonna do that and let the gigglers know what I truly think. Because I feel like I have a lot of brides in my DM that are like, do you think you I should do this before my wedding?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. I also tried to do a laser, like last year. I went and. Because I was trying to get Botox for my armpits and didn't go through anyway. And they were like, you should do this laser. And I was like, let's do it. And they're like, oh, no, you have to, like, book that, like, next week. And I'm like, I'm never gonna see you again.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It was probably Laser Genesis because I feel like everyone our age is doing it.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay.

[Paige DeSorbo]

But anyway, so I want to let the gigglers know that. I'll let them know what I think because it is expensive.

[Hannah Berner]

So you want to make sure that you see effects from it.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah. And I feel like things are just like more expensive in New York City because. Because it's so annoying. But it's definitely expensive. But we'll see if it's worth it.

[Hannah Berner]

I have an astrologer update. No, sorry. I have a psychic medium update.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay.

[Hannah Berner]

I saw a psychic last week.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Wait, you know, you know I like to go on your schedule. My decide.

[Hannah Berner]

I know.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And I like to do it when you do it.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, I know. So actually, I talked to spirit Tiff. It's their spirit Tiff. She's amazing. She's. And she's also like. She's gone to my shows. We were just dming and she's like, I haven't talked to you in a while. Do you want to have a reading? And I was like, I'll never say no to that. Yeah, my grandpa came through. I wanted to let you guys know, but some crazy happened.

[Paige DeSorbo]

What? I can't believe we've been into the pod 52 minutes and you're just saying.

[Hannah Berner]

No because my list was so long.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

So she was like, oh, your grandpa loves like the room you're in right now because there's like a lot of sun. And like I am in the sun room. And like, the reason I love this place is cuz the sun room reminds me of the sunroom that used to be in his house. Like, it has the same tile floors and like wood on the ceiling. And I was like, oh my God. She's like, she. He loves your setup. He loves it so much. And she goes, goes, are there flowers to your right? No, sorry, flowers to your left. And I was like, oh, no, there aren't. And she's like, there aren't any white flowers to your left. And I was like, no. Maybe outside, but I don't see any. And he's. She's like, he's pointing to your left. I'm seeing a white flower with yellow insides. And I'm like, no. And then I look down my punch needle. Oh. That I'm showing on the YouTube right now is white flowers with yellow inside. That was on the left of me. And she's like, he just wants to let you know he's here and he's guarding you and he loves your punching needle and he thinks you have issues because punch needling is fucking crazy.

[Paige DeSorbo]

That's so grandpa of him. He's like, wow, look at that punching needle.

[Hannah Berner]

But, like, that was one of the craziest things that's ever happened.

[Paige DeSorbo]

That's. Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

And she was just like, he's watching over you. He's there for you. He loves that you talk about him all the time.

[Paige DeSorbo]

And that, I feel like, happens so much with psychic mediums. You'll be like, okay, I'll go into it with a grain of salt. And they'll say something like that. And you're like. And tell me all your secrets.

[Hannah Berner]

Tell me. So she's amazing. She's also just, like, easy to talk to and cool, but they also just help you be like, yeah, keep listening to your intuition. Like, do your thing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It's almost like a re. That's why I like to do it, like, once a year, and I usually do it at the beginning of the year because it is. Is just like a reset of reassurance of certain things that you're like, okay.

[Hannah Berner]

It's also just like, if you feel uncomfortable, there's probably a reason, and you know what it is. And just to always go back to, like, who you actually are and stop trying to be someone else is like, period.

[Paige DeSorbo]

That's why I'm wearing my natural curly hair.

[Hannah Berner]

And that's why you've gone back to your curls. You're fucking Shirley Temple over here. I've also been watching TV.

[Paige DeSorbo]

What have you been watching?

[Hannah Berner]

I started the show Mr. Robot. Have you watched it before?

[Paige DeSorbo]

No. Is that on Apple?

[Hannah Berner]

It's on Netflix. It came back. It's like, start in 2016 with.

[Paige DeSorbo]

2016?

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. With Rami Malek? No, he played the singer in the Queen.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

Queen. Yeah. It's interesting. It's basically like Dexter for coding. Okay, so if you're so honestly, like, I'm. I'm not sure about it, but I. I, like, got through it, if that makes sense.

[Paige DeSorbo]

You guys, like, I have no shows this summer. Wait, you know what someone said on Tick Tock, and it's, like, so eerily true. This summer doesn't have a theme.

[Hannah Berner]

The girls are scrambling like, someone dropped the ball.

[Paige DeSorbo]

In the summer theme. There's no summer show. There's.

[Hannah Berner]

People have Summer died, but nothing's. I think Love island has, like, honestly taken this toll on the community.

[Paige DeSorbo]

It's taken a toll.

[Hannah Berner]

People try to do Tomato Girl Summer. People try to do Sardine Girl Summer, which is very me coded. I knew that.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I guess. I guess maybe Sardine, but last summer, it was so. It's Brat Summer. It's Hot Girl Summer.

[Hannah Berner]

And then Charlie tried to be like, it's still brat summer. And we were like, no, you can't repeat eat like that.

[Paige DeSorbo]

We have no, we have nothing. And I feel like I don't have a summer show. Like the two shows I'm watching, Gilded Age and Buccaneers. It's like I have to wait each week.

[Hannah Berner]

My mom is watching that because she knows you love those shows and she says you guys have the same taste.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Because a period piece, it just puts me in a good mood.

[Hannah Berner]

But I have been back on my with documentaries. I kind of think you might like this if you got high.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay.

[Hannah Berner]

It's called the Shark Whisperer.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Okay. How high do you want me to get?

[Hannah Berner]

More than beta blocker high. Okay, bear with me. This girl's like gorgeous, like blonde.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I'm in.

[Hannah Berner]

No, you don't know.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I love watching pretty people.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah, but she's pretty, right?

[Paige DeSorbo]

Done.

[Hannah Berner]

And she basically has always loved sharks. And I was like, okay. Like do you. I support a girl.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Woman in arts, have a hobby.

[Hannah Berner]

Yeah. So. But her whole thing is she's like, if sharks wanted to eat everyone, they would.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Yeah.

[Hannah Berner]

So she's like, I don't think sharks are this evil scary monster that they've been put out in the media like Jaws and stuff. And I'm like, okay, okay. I love a villain turning story. Like let's go. And she's basically like like swims with sharks in the wild and can go down for like 6 minutes. Cuz she says it's mental. And she's what she's learned how they communicate. She's a fish and she's a friend of theirs and she went viral cuz she takes photos with them cuz she's trying to raise awareness to stop just killing sharks for shark fin soup and that kind of thing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Shark fin soup.

[Hannah Berner]

Who's out here? It's like a huge thing in Asia.

[Paige DeSorbo]

The hell is out here doing.

[Hannah Berner]

Hundreds of thousands of sharks are killed a year to just cut off their fin for this like delicacy. So she's fighting for the sharks, but she basically is like these sharks, they get scared. That's why sometimes they'll bite and then be like, ew. And like people just get bitten.

[Paige DeSorbo]

But this is so funny because a couple weeks ago my dad was talking about the summer we went to Martha's Vineyard and how we like stayed in the ocean the whole time and there were so many sharks. Sharks. And they were watching them from like helicopters and I said, well, from the helicopters then why don't they just shoot them? And my dad looks at me, he goes that's highly illegal.

[Hannah Berner]

Wait, Gary supports the sharks how?

[Paige DeSorbo]

She supports the sharks?

[Hannah Berner]

Shark supporter. Well, you're watching it and you realize that they're, like, gaining trust in her. And she basically, basically showed them that she was a predator too and held herself confidently around them to. And. And it's incredible. So. And it's also, like, aesthetically beautiful. They're like, in the ocean and she's like, kissing these sharks.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah Berner]

But it's just cool to see how there's different perspectives on stuff. And sharks aren't monsters.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Sharks are friends, not food.

[Hannah Berner]

Well, you guys, thank you for gigging with us. We're so sorry we didn't do an episode last week and honestly, we regret it. That was up. We were scared.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Honestly. We were forced into not doing it.

[Hannah Berner]

We were. It was doctor's orders. I have to go do my road lesson. Thank you to all the gigglers who have been sending me advice on, like, where to take the test, what's. And give me parallel parking advice. I'm reading everything. You guys are amazing.

[Paige DeSorbo]

Our DMS couldn't be more different.

[Hannah Berner]

Also, Southampton animal shelter is overloaded with kittens. Check them out. And my kittens are going to be available for adoption soon, so just keep an eye out.

[Paige DeSorbo]

I told the dog this weekend to stop following me.

[Hannah Berner]

Okay, that's for next week. Bye.

[Paige DeSorbo]

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Kohler's Vale Smart Toilet in honed black actually inspired fashion designer Laura Kim to create a stunning black chiffon dress that debuted on the Runway at New York Fashion Week.

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The Vail Smart Toilet, with its curved.

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Design, deep rich textural color, touchscreen controls.

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Behind the scenes of Kohler's partnership with.

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Creative director Laura [e-mail].