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Hannah
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Paige
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Grace
Easy cleanup.
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Paige
Here you go. No mixing, no adding chasers. And Sun Cruiser inspires good times and it brings the sunny vibes to you. So no matter where you're hosting, if.
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Grace
You'Re in an apartment this fall or you're in a house and it's getting chilly, it's still summer vibes with Sun Cruiser.
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Paige
So crack one open today and let.
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Grace
The good times cruise.
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Hannah
Sup, gigglers? Gary, fix your WI fi. Manifest that we can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, my ghostly gigglers? It's the Halloween episode. We didn't plan a Halloween episode. I just said that. Now we just said that.
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Grace
Also, shout out to my mom. It's her birthday on Halloween.
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Hannah
Oh, shout out. Kim, just. I don't. I can't handle the whole two weekends doing like full outfits. But then again, I've never been a good Halloween.
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Grace
The kids need to calm Down.
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Hannah
I mean, part of it is, like, some people love dressing up as other people, and I feel like they should talk to someone about that.
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Grace
Yeah. Talk about it.
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Hannah
No, but we.
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Grace
Therapy.
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Hannah
We are going to Seattle, where we will be dressing up.
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Grace
Paige, we're getting a lot of dms from the girls. Like, what's going on? What are we doing? And there's nothing worse than having a feeling, like, is everyone going to be dressed up and I'm not? So we will be dressing up for the Seattle show because it's on actual Halloween, but for the rest of the weekend, we are not dressing up just to put that out there. So San Francisco, we will be in regular clothes. Arizona, regular clothes.
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Hannah
If you feel like you want to dress up on Halloween, we will support you. We will put you. We will put you up. We will.
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Grace
If you feel like you want to dress up, like, November 25th, we will support you. Like, we wear whatever you want.
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Hannah
We support women in the arts, period. So express yourselves, because that's healthy for humanity in this economy in this time. In this time. Let's get down to business. You went to the CFDA Awards. Did you figure out what CFDA stands for?
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Grace
So funny, Hannah. Thank you for bringing that to the forefront of the event, because everyone's been wondering. I did Google as on my way there. I was like, I should know what CFDA stands for. Committee fashion. How? Council of some fundamentals.
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Hannah
We don't know.
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Grace
Council fashion. Something like. Of America. It's for American designers.
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Hannah
So Kylie Jenner's there.
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Grace
Kylie Jenner was there. She literally walked the carpet, like, two people after me. So I saw her, like, in. In person. Person.
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Hannah
Was there anything about how she does the carpet that you learned from?
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Grace
She's very poised. Like, I feel like she's not. I don't want to use the word stiff, because she's not stiff, but she's very poised in, like, her posing.
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Hannah
She knows she doesn't want them to capture any other pose. That's smart. Yeah.
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Grace
She looks good on a carpet.
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Hannah
I do have to say, when you. Whenever I've done a carpet, which clearly would never be as aggressive as when Kylie steps on, it goes by in a second, and then you're like, fuck. Did I do three hours of hair and makeup for me to just, like, make a stupid face? Yeah.
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Grace
Like, right after every time I get off of a red carpet, I'm like, did I hold my shoulders back? Like, is my mom gonna freak out? Like, did I.
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Hannah
Or I'm like, was my hair just, like, fucked up? And no one told me because you do all this prep. But then right before it's chaos. And that's, like, when, like, I'll buy. I'll eat something.
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Grace
Okay, well, so I pick my dress. Amazing. And I'm like, it's very slinky. I should wear some shapewear underneath. Look, you need shapewear for certain things. And, like, I. I needed it for that outfit, but I had it. I think I was wearing a size too small that I end. That. I ended up feeling like it made me look bigger than I actually was, because when I was in.
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Hannah
You're saying, like, it squeezed certain parts.
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Grace
I. I shouldn't have freaking worn it because it squeezed when I was sitting in the car, it got messed up, and then I just had to walk in, and so I didn't have time to, like, fix it. And so in my head on the carpet, I was like, my shapewear is literally making it look like I have the biggest ass in the world because it was so hiked up and squeezing me. And I so just know on the carpet that I was uncomfy. And I wanted to pull it down so bad, but I couldn't get in there.
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Hannah
Well, now you know what it's like to have a fatty.
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Grace
Oh, my God.
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Hannah
Little dump truck.
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Grace
So I'm just, like, so freaking over shapewear.
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Hannah
There's gonna be rumors about your bbl.
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Grace
I hope so. I literally hope so.
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Hannah
Do you remember how, like, two weeks ago. I think it was two weeks ago, we got invited to, like, Variety New York, Important people event. Powerful.
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Grace
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Hannah
So you couldn't go because you had something.
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Grace
I was in Charleston for a wedding. Yeah, you and.
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Hannah
Charleston for a wedding. So I went with my mom, and Rachel Zegler was, like, the COVID star. And you know me, like, I'm not bothering anybody. I'm just inside, I'm making my little jokes, I'm seeing snacks, and then I'm going home. Yep.
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Grace
You eat an appetizer, say something crude, and you walk away.
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Hannah
That's my formula. I stick to it. So my mom is like, you know, I'm. I love Rachel Zegler. And I was like, I did not know this about you. And she's. My mom's a singer, so she's like, no, she has the most incredible voice. Like, she's just. She's everything. So she gives, like, a speech, and my mom's, like, enamored. And then after the speech, it's a very busy room. My mom just starts, like, walking towards Rachel Zegler, and I'm like, okay. Security's gonna literally knock you down. Like, I don't know what you're doing. My mom just starts walking and I don't know, it's like a confidence of like a mom.
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Grace
Yeah.
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Hannah
She just starts walking towards her, and then she stops. And we're, like, standing right near Rachel. And then Rachel looks at me, and Rachel starts coming towards me. And I was like, okay, this is too much for the. Like, I already checked out. Like, this is a lot.
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Grace
Yeah, I'm overstimulated.
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Hannah
Yes. And she was like, I'm a giggler. And I was like, rachel Zegler, shut the fuck up. And she's like, no, I love Giggly Squad. And she's on Broadway right now for. And Juliet, she's also.
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Grace
She's gorgeous.
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Hannah
Gorgeous. And so she was so sweet. Like one of those actresses that you're like, I'll put you in my fucking pocket. Like, she was. She wasn't aloof or like. Like, she literally just was like the nicest girl.
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Grace
She's young too, right?
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Hannah
Yeah, she's young.
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Grace
She's like a baby.
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Hannah
She's young and she's. She then starts. I meet her friend who's like, in comedy. We're talking. I look over, she's hunched over with my mom, gossiping. My mom and Rachel, your mom's great.
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Grace
To gossip with, Great gossiper.
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Hannah
And my mom comes back, I'm like, what were you talking to Rachel Zegler about? And she's like, oh, we were talking about how to prepare our voices when we sing. And like, what? And I was like, oh, so you were talking business. Like, you okay?
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Grace
I'm obsessed. I'm really happy that she's like, a good force in Gen Z, because I think she's a good example of, like, no work done. Just like a naturally pretty person. Yeah.
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Hannah
She's also just, like, clearly so naturally talented and driven. And, you know, her first ever gig was west side Story with Martin Scorsese. Like, iconic. Iconic. So anyway, Rachel, if you're listening to this pod, we fucking love you. I love to let the gigglers know. Who else is part of the one.
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Grace
Thing I will say about cfda, a little tidbit that I learned that I, like, would have not known. Anytime Anna Wintour hosts an event, so it was a sit down dinner. I didn't know it was a sit down dinner. I thought it was just like a little, like, award show. Anytime Anna Wintour hosts an event, she serves for the dinner, chicken pot pie.
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Hannah
Always.
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Grace
And I didn't every time. She's always Serving chicken pot pie.
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Hannah
What's the, like, story behind it?
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Grace
She must just, like, love chicken pot pie and feel like, I don't make.
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Hannah
Everyone eat cottage cheese just cause I like cottage cheese.
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Grace
Well, you kind of do. You kind of do make us eat cottage cheese. It was the chicken Popeye was so good. It was at.
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Hannah
Well, I love chicken pot pie. It's a pastry. Let's be honest. It's a pastry.
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Grace
It's a pastry.
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Hannah
It's a dessert.
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Grace
It was at the. The Natural History Museum, which is just. If you've never been to the Natural History Museum, it's just, like, such a cool place. It's a great, like, day date.
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Hannah
Yeah.
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Grace
And, like, if you're, like, visiting New York, whatever. But to go there for an event is just insane. Like, we sat in this room, and there was just, like, a massive whale, like, on the ceiling. Um, and there was, like, dinosaurs and, like, all this stuff. So on the chicken pot pie, like, there was, like, a little dinosaur, like, pastry that just, like, sat on the top. It was, like the adult version of, like, dino nuggets.
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Kim
How?
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Grace
I was, like, perceiving it, but it was just such an interesting fact. I was like, I can't wait to tell the gigglers that, like, all the fashion girlies are out here eating chicken pot pie.
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Hannah
I love those details. Do you have any other tea or any other celebs that you saw?
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Grace
Okay, so I saw Kylie Jenner. I saw Blake Lively was sitting with Michael Kors. Michael Kors got okay. Throughout the entire fashion event, Like, I just kept, like, laughing, laughing to myself. I kept thinking about, like, if you.
- [11:58]
Hannah
Were with me, he'd be like, we have to go. How do they let this switch in?
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Grace
Like, they were saying that Michael Kors, he got, like, a really nice. Some, like, some type of, like, lifetime achievement award. And all I could think was, like, oh, Hannah's best friend is getting him to, like, say thank you for an award. Blake Lively, like, presented him with an award.
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Hannah
She looks beautiful.
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Grace
Yeah, she really does. She's really pretty in person.
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Hannah
Paris Hilton was there with Nicole, right?
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Grace
Yep. They presented an award. Kelsey Ballerini. Who else was there? It was just, like, really? It was very surreal and very cool. And I honestly, usually I'm like, okay, when can I. What's my, like, escape plan? When can I get out? And I was, like, really just enjoying it. Like, I just liked all the video montages and, like, seeing Anna Wintour get up. Oh, my God. Anna Wintour tripped. So she was, like, walking through the tables to, like, Go up to the stage to, like, present to her. Your friend Hamish.
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Hannah
I love Hamish. Hamish.
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Grace
You love Hamish. Hamish also got, like, some type of lifetime achievement, and she, like, fumbled a little and, like, tripped and, like, immediately turned around. And she was, like, the equivalent to, like, she was gonna fight the chair because, like, she did it to herself. And I was like, oh, my God, that chair literally just got fired.
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Hannah
I was about to say someone got fired. Someone got fired. Well, thank God she's okay.
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Grace
But, like, she never takes her sunglasses off. So, like, she got up there and, like, clearly couldn't read the teleprompter because she had sunglasses on.
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Hannah
Well, she probably tripped because she had sunglasses on too. She didn't see the chair in front of.
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Grace
Pushing them down a little and then, like, reading. And I was like, this is just such iconic behavior. Like, she.
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Hannah
But isn't that what fashion's about? It's about. Despite the inconvenience, I feel like she.
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Grace
Treats everything as, like, a after work event. Like, this was just an after work event for her where is, like, a huge event, I think. But she's just so, like, poised and cool, and she's just cool and she's.
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Hannah
Just a badass, and she's so powerful. I love it.
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Grace
No, I really need, like, an in depth documentary about, like, like, her childhood.
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Hannah
I think there is one. Someone said she only eats steak, which.
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Grace
That was in Devil Wears Prada. Oh, no. Me and Hannah have been really obsessed with Devil Wears Prada recently. I don't know why, but we were a Zoom and Hannah and Grace, like, weren't on it yet. And so I just sent the meme, like, why is no one ready? I hate getting on a Zoom and being like. I texted Hannah, like, she should be here soon because I hate small talk.
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Hannah
My toxic trait is when I watch Devil Wears Prada. I think Anne Hathaway looks better before the transformation.
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Grace
No, you're sick.
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Hannah
I liked her Front wheel sweater. It's my style.
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Grace
And no, she literally went from Hannah to Paige.
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Hannah
She cut her bangs and she turned into you. Also, I do have to say it was such a good movie I watched on the plane. But, like, it's such the amount of times they were calling her fat for being a size 6. I know it was funny, but it's something that, like, could never pass.
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Grace
It would never fly now.
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Hannah
No, they were like, we don't have any clothes in a size six here. And then also, like, she wasn't even a size six.
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Grace
No, she's. No, I saw a TikTok recently where it was like, my childhood really had me out here thinking that, like, Hillary Duff was chubby. And, like, I remember that also, like.
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Hannah
Jessica Simpson had, like, three kids. And they were like, she's like, Jessica Simpson's overweight.
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Grace
They're like, she's just in jeans. But okay.
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Hannah
God.
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Grace
Anyway, I don't want this to come as an attack to you and your people. Recently on Tick Tock, I've been seeing, like, all these videos of just, like, people being like, oh, my God. She just, like, posts, like, rage bait. And it's just like, okay, I don't follow them anymore because it's rage bait. And, like, don't like this video because it's rage bait. And, like, here's the thing with Gen Z, you can't just make up sayings, okay? You can't just come in here and be like, oh, rage bait is a saying that everyone should know what the fuck it means. I don't know what rage bait is, nor do I care, but what I'm really upset about is Gen Z just, like, making up their own terms.
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Hannah
I do have to say, you are coming off like the angry grandpa who doesn't know what the new kids are saying. And you had so I've been waiting.
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Grace
To get to this point in my life for years.
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Hannah
You threw your phone across the room. Can I speak for my people?
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Grace
Yeah. I would love it if they had a representative.
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Hannah
Rage bait. What I believe is, is when you say something you don't even believe, but you're saying it because it'll piss people off and get engagement. So.
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Grace
Okay, well, then you want to know what? I'm pissed. I'm pissed.
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Hannah
You got baited.
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Grace
It worked.
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Hannah
They bait you. You took the bait.
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Grace
I just. I don't. Who would want to do that, though? Why would you want to do that?
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Hannah
Not to go full mental health moment, but a lot of people are like, look, the Internet's ruined everything. Everyone's on their own algorithm and everyone's believing whatever they see online, and it's fucked up. But then I think about, like, the 60s when, like, everyone was getting murdered, and I'm like, didn't people think the world was ending then? Like, imagine, like, right?
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Grace
Every generation is like, this.
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Hannah
This is the end.
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Grace
This is awful.
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Hannah
Back then, you literally could murder anyone at any time and no one would know. Like, I know the Internet's bad, but.
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Grace
At least, right, like, there was no DNA testing.
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Hannah
Yeah, it was. If you got caught murdering someone in the 70s, you're a fucking loser. Get your. Your fucking that's embarrassing.
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Grace
You had to, like, try to get caught.
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Hannah
Yeah, well, that's why serial killers would literally have to start sending mail to the police, because they'd be like, you're not even close. I'm gonna help you with this one.
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Kim
Wait.
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Grace
Talk about, like, a needing validation and attention. It's like, okay, four people.
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Hannah
No one knows who you are. And you're like, okay, I guess I'm just gonna send a little clue.
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Grace
Okay. So, like, no one's even noticing me. So, like, I'm just. I'll just, like, write a nice letter.
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Hannah
How many women do I have to chop into pieces before I get attention?
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Grace
It's such a funny take.
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Hannah
Also, I watched the Zodiac Killer, which is on Netflix. They literally had 100 moments where police stopped him, like, hey, what are you up to? And he'd be like, nothing. And they'd be like, sorry, keep walking. Like, so many times. They could have saved hundreds of lives, but the police just were like, oopsie, poopsie. I don't know. This guy looks fine. Like, he literally murdered a girl and was walking away, and they got stopped by the cops. And the cops were like, you're good, sir. Yeah.
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Grace
Like, keep it moving. No, I feel like being a police officer in the 70s was, like, a joke. Like, a joke of a job. They're like, whatever, I'll just go be a police officer. Nothing's really happening. Like, you guys didn't even have DNA testing.
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Hannah
No. Like, someone would get murdered, and they'd look around and be like, did anyone see him? And they'd be like, no. And they're like, well, I guess he's gone.
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Grace
The stereotype that, like, police officers eat donuts must have come from the 70s when they, like, legit were doing nothing but, like, taste testing donut nuts.
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Hannah
And it's not their fault. They didn't have DNA testing.
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Grace
But, like, so they were just guessing.
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Hannah
Yeah, they were guessing, or they would just. Every case would go cold, and they would just put it in a closet. How cool did you feel when DNA testing came out and they were like, brick, get into that closet, because I'm about to call some people out.
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Grace
Yeah, I bet. I bet.
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Hannah
Oh, God.
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Grace
So anyway, so that was, like, my just how I felt about rage bait. Next thing I want to talk about. I also feel like sometimes I use Giggly Squad as, like. As like, a modem to tell my mom things.
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Hannah
Like a TV modem.
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Grace
I don't know why I use the word.
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Hannah
Oh. As a communication. Indirect communication to Kim.
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Grace
Like, rather than like, texting my mom and being like, hey, this is like what I've been thinking about recently. That, like, you're going to be like, you don't need that. I'm like, I just like to say it on the pod and then, like, if she reaches out to me, that's.
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Hannah
That's her. That's her motive.
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Grace
That's her journey.
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Hannah
Yeah.
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Grace
Okay. Obviously I've been like, so deep in Grey's Anatomy that. So, like, I'm basically a doctor. Like, I, like, I'm a surgeon.
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Hannah
It's not good for you.
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Grace
I don't think it's. No, it's not. It's definitely not good for my, like, hypochondriac.
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Hannah
You're way more hypochondria than me. I book 100% Mitochondria.
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Grace
Powerhouse of the cell. So my new thing is that I want to go to a place in New York City where you can do a full body scan. You do like a. You do like a full body scan and then, like, if you have anything that like, could potentially turn into something, they can like, detect it then, and you can, like, fix it preemptively.
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Hannah
So who's they? So is it doctors?
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Grace
Well, yeah. Like, you go into essentially like an X ray machine that's like, more powerful.
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Hannah
Essentially is literally like, you've been doing Grey's Anatomy for too long. Essentially. Essentially you have gone to CT scan. Essentially.
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Grace
I just, I can't stop referring to like, my frontal lobe and like the frontal cortex.
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Hannah
This is my thing. I'm so bad at going to the doctor. Can they just tell us, like, if that's such a good thing to do, why isn't everyone doing it? Like, everyone should get a full body scan.
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Grace
It's like a little bit expensive and I don't think people see it as like a necessity when they're younger. But, like, that's why I want to go. Like, I'm turning 32 next week. So, like, that's why I want to go. Just to see if, like, yeah. Oh, am I, Am I where all the other 32 year olds are?
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Hannah
They're like, we have bad news and good news. The bad news is that you're dying.
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Grace
Of cancer, dead in six months.
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Hannah
The good news and the bad news is you spent way too much money on this full body scan. But the good news is that you're dying so you don't have to pay it.
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Grace
How morbid do you think? Like, people do go in and they're like, you have three days. So we're not even gonna send you this bill.
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Hannah
No, they're sending the bill. I know. Yes, they're sending the bill. Did I tell you how, like, my all my credit was ruined in my early 20s because when I got hit by a car at Wisconsin my senior year, then I graduated, and I guess the hospital was, like, sending bills to my old Wisconsin address, and I just didn't know. And then I went to get my first credit card at, like, 22, and they were like, you're denied. And I was like, what? And they're like, you have the worst credit we've ever seen. And I was like, who's why?
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Grace
Oh, my God.
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Hannah
And like, that's why I don't trust mail.
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Grace
No, you don't trust it.
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Hannah
I don't trust mail. I think I told you. I think it's citizen homework that I didn't sign up for. And I was talking about how I love throwing mail away.
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Grace
Credit score is the equivalent to Bluetooth in your head. It's like, that's not a thing. No.
- [23:46]
Hannah
Like, to the gigglers listening, make sure your credit's good. It's very, very, very important, especially to take down the patriarchy. And, like, I did fix my credit, but I love throwing out mail. I told you, I threw out Des Invisalign. I threw out credit cards because, like, all the fake mail and the real mail looks the same, and that's not my job to decipher it. Like, it'll be, like, important, and it's always, like, a promotion, and then the same thing is, like, your birth certificate. And, like, I just think we need a different system.
- [24:16]
Grace
So the other day, when I was getting ready for the CFDA Awards, I ordered a salad. And, like, four bites into my salad, there was, like, a massive long blonde hair. And I was like, my enemies are out to get me.
- [24:28]
Hannah
Oh, no.
- [24:29]
Kim
Why?
- [24:30]
Hannah
When it's in the salad, it's that much worse. Like, if it's that much, Fine, fine.
- [24:34]
Grace
Whatever.
- [24:35]
Hannah
Steak. I'm like, flavor.
- [24:38]
Grace
When it's rolled up into your salad, it's so much more vile. You know? It's disgusting. So I throw my salad away. I'm like, okay, this is, like, a dud of a salad. So the next day, yesterday, I, like, am working in the morning. I get home, it's, like, probably, like, 12 in the afternoon. I fall asleep for, like, two hours on the couch. I wake up, I go back in the kitchen, and I see, like, the remnants of my salad. Like, I had. Like, the bag was still in there, and, like, napkins and, like, Whatever. So I'm like, throwing everything away from my salad the previous day. I go back to the couch. Craig walks in the kitchen, and he's like, where are my chips and my cookie? And I'm like, oh, shoot, that wasn't from my salad. And he. He had ordered while I was napping a salad. And he had eaten the salad. And then the things that came with it were just, like, on the counter. So I just, like, threw it out because I was, like, doing a sweep of the kitchen. And he literally walks in the living room and he's like, you can't have anything in this house. Or you just throw it away. Like, you can't keep anything. The counter, or you just, like, get rid of it. And true. If you come into my home, you.
- [25:49]
Hannah
Go, do you want to move here or not?
- [25:52]
Grace
And you leave things on the counter. They will be dealt with and they will be thrown away with you.
- [25:58]
Hannah
You're consistent. Like, you like to have a clean household and you will clean up after yourself. The when Des and I run into problems is because we'll never clean. But then the one time we do clean, we throw away each other's important things. Like, once. Once the house is a mess, and I'm like, excited to have leftover Chinese food. And I open the fridge and there's nothing in the fridge. And I go, where's my Chinese food? He's like, oh, I was cleaning out the fridge. I'm like, since when do you fucking clean anything?
- [26:25]
Grace
Since when do we clean out the fridge?
- [26:28]
Hannah
And you didn't clean anything else. You just cleaned the food that I wanted.
- [26:32]
Grace
I am dez.
- [26:33]
Hannah
Yeah. Yeah.
- [26:34]
Grace
I'm like, that small spark of joy that you're gonna feel from those chips two hours later in the trash.
- [26:41]
Hannah
But I do have to say, like, he brings up me throwing out his Invisalign, like, all the time. He'll be like, remember when you threw out my fucking Invisalign?
- [26:48]
Grace
And I'm like, I throw everything away. My brother was here, like, not too long ago, and I threw him away. I tried. I literally frickin tried. And he, like, got a phone call randomly. This, like, never happens. It was so, like in a movie. I was like, we have cell phones. Like, write it in your phone. He gets a call and he's just like, oh, hold on, let me grab a pen. I'm like, okay, what do you want to detective? And he, like, grabs a pen. He grabs, like, my fluffy pink, like, Ben, and he's like, writing on a post it, like, some number and he's like, okay, thanks. And then he, like, hangs up the phone and, like, goes about his day. Three days later, this man texts me and he goes, hey, do you remember when I wrote a number on a post it in your apartment a couple days ago? Any chance you have that number? I was like, buddy, that's been thrown out for days. Like, you can't just walk into my home, write random things on post its and think, I'm keeping that for safekeeping. Like, no, I'm done.
- [27:47]
Hannah
You're like, I'm not part of your FBI scheme.
- [27:49]
Grace
Like, don't bring me into this case. I am not a witness. I do not know what you're talking.
- [27:56]
Hannah
My mom is so clean, though. We're like, you know how I like to have, like, a drink that I drink throughout the day, you know? So, like, I'll leave the drink, and immediately it's in the sink. And I'm like, mom, that is my drink for the day. Please don't put it in the sink. And then I bring it out, it's in the sink again. And she was like, you were done. And I'm like, but I'm refilling it. Like, I'm. This is sustainable. This is environmentally friendly. And she's like, that cup is disgusting. It has been washed in two years. And I was like, please, this is my comfort cup. But that's why I think two messy people sometimes are good together. Because you both don't. Like, Des will be like, can you clean that up? And I'll be like, no. Can you clean that up? And he'll be like, no. And I'm like, touche.
- [28:38]
Grace
No, I. Touche is just, like, a funny thing to say. I feel like in marriage. And she's like, you got me.
- [28:48]
Hannah
Touche, motherfucker. This episode is sponsored by Neutrogena. We're obsessed with their hydro Boost water gel. Cause we're thirsty. We're always thirsty for attention. Paige, what was the most thirsty you've ever been?
- [29:00]
Grace
I was cappy of the cheerleading team, and I up and quit, which is main character energy. Honestly, so illegal. I quit. And my team was like, why are you quitting? And I was like, well, I want to go to the football games and wear outfits. And so I literally, senior year, I was like, I wear outfits now.
- [29:19]
Hannah
That's so on brand. I feel like my thirstiest moment was when I met Derek Jeter. Like, he was, like, in a store, and I kept Snapchatting his back and saying, he keeps trying to talk to me. So I love the water gel because it's not too heavy and it keeps my skin hydrated for 24 hours and.
- [29:35]
Grace
I feel like with as much travel as we do, we're on a plane every single day. I need something that lasts for 24 hours and I need to be able to quickly grab it from my bag.
- [29:43]
Hannah
It's clinically proven derm beloved 24 hour hydration. I'm really thirsty for Neutrogena at all times.
- [29:50]
Grace
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Paige
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Grace
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- [35:42]
Kim
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- [36:46]
Hannah
Did you see the celebrity breakup?
- [36:49]
Grace
Which one?
- [36:50]
Hannah
Channing Tatum?
- [36:52]
Grace
You know, you know, I didn't. I literally had to film something yesterday morning and I got home and I literally, I felt like I went into a coma for four hours and I woke up and Craig was saying oh my God, Channing Tatum and Zoe, what's it. No. Yeah. Zoe broke up.
- [37:08]
Hannah
What?
- [37:08]
Grace
Any details?
- [37:10]
Hannah
So three years together, I think they were engaged. I could have made that up.
- [37:15]
Grace
You might have made that up.
- [37:16]
Hannah
I might have made that up. But look, I like them together and happen. Let's normalize people breaking up all the time. And I'm happy they were happy during the time. But also, we don't know shit about their relationship. So.
- [37:31]
Grace
No. But can I surmise.
- [37:33]
Hannah
Yes.
- [37:34]
Grace
I'm just gonna put. Yes. Can I just make things up for a minute? On what I think, you know, when I said when I thought in my head, oh, they're done, they're done. He posted an Instagram a couple weeks ago about her directing the most recent film that came out that he starred in.
- [37:54]
Hannah
Yes.
- [37:55]
Grace
And the caption was very nice. And it was of her sleeping on the couch, and it was how proud he was of her and how much work she, like, put into this movie. And in my little brain, I thought, thought, something's going on here. Something's going on.
- [38:09]
Hannah
I remember you study that to me and being like, why did this give me the ick? And it was long. It was paragraphs.
- [38:15]
Grace
And part of me thinks that, like, and this is all made up for my own birth. Let me just preface that none of this is real.
- [38:25]
Hannah
This is not even alleged. This is wrong.
- [38:29]
Grace
What I'm about to say is wrong. Part of me thinks that. I'm just going to say it. He might be at, like, the down slope of his career. I would say his peak was Magic Mike now. He could turn it around. He could go be in other things. I think people did love him in the movie she directed, that, like, thriller movie that just came out. Blink Twice. I have a theory that he's a little bit on the down slope of his acting career and she is on the uphill of her directing career. And part of me thinks that she was like, you're too much in my shit. Like, you're hanging on to me a little bit too much, career wise. And, like, you're praising me because you want me to, like, either put you in these movies or take you with me. And I can't take you with me on my directing career. And so now you're, like, so obsessed with me and you're, like, all up in my shit. And you're posting these weird Instagrams that we would have never posted. Like, we're a very private couple. And all of a sudden you're just like, I'm obsessed with her. And I feel like she's kind of like, buzz off for a minute. This is my moment. And you're making it all about you, but, like, trying to convince people you're making it about me, but, like, it's not about me.
- [39:57]
Hannah
Wow, that was. That was deep. That was diabolical.
- [40:01]
Grace
And again, wrong.
- [40:03]
Hannah
Wrong. Well, I'm. Can I surmise something?
- [40:05]
Grace
I would love it.
- [40:07]
Hannah
I think they worked on Blink Twice together, and this is, like, kind of like yours, but a little different. And again, a lie. A lie. But it's hard to work with your significant other. And I think they saw size of each other that, like, created tension, and there was pressure, and there's money involved and there's performance, and I think they. They've been broken up, and they waited till after Blink twice was out 100 because. And then just announced it. They didn't just break up. Right now I feel like she's, like.
- [40:39]
Grace
Directing the movie, and, like, in the midst of filming, in her head, she was like, I'm done with this guy. Once this is over, I'm fucking. Ow. This guy is so annoying. And I love Channing Tatum.
- [40:51]
Hannah
He's my.
- [40:52]
Grace
You do. You love Channing. But I'm gonna be honest. I love Zoe Kravitz. There's something about her. Like, she gives a lot of interviews, and I just love when someone loves what they do. Do you know what I mean? Like, there's just something about it when someone's, like, so passionate about, like, loving something that, like, makes me happy. I'm like, I wish I could love anything the way you love that.
- [41:17]
Hannah
She's also a nepo baby that no one gets mad at because we're like, yeah, she's gorgeous. She comes from two extremely powerful, talented parents. She's supposed to be a celebrity.
- [41:28]
Grace
Yeah. Well, and I just think she is a really good actress. And so, like, every interview she does, she talks about how, like, her hobby is movies. Like, her hobby is to, like, sit in a dark room all day and, like, watch a ton of movies. You love that, and I love that. I just, like, love that.
- [41:45]
Hannah
Like, stop pretending we're doing, like, ice baths, and we just want to lay down and watch movies.
- [41:50]
Grace
Yeah. Like, she has, like, every movie in her house. She likes can reference every movie. And I just, like, love when people love their thing.
- [41:59]
Hannah
I just thought of a movie that of Nicole Kidman's next role, with which, by the way, Nicole Kidman has not taken a nap in 7,000 years. Every day, there's a new movie coming out with her in it. People are going nuts about this baby. Girl movie.
- [42:15]
Grace
I'm literally watching a show right now, and she's like, the FBI agent in it. I'm like, do you take a break ever, bitch.
- [42:21]
Hannah
I want her to do a movie that's like playing a Gwyneth Paltrow type of a woman who's like goop. Who's. Who is like the wellness guru, but secretly she's kind of like, Legally Blonde. Yes.
- [42:40]
Grace
Hannah.
- [42:41]
Hannah
Should we produce it?
- [42:42]
Grace
Should we just write it?
- [42:43]
Hannah
Yeah, let's do it. And. And it's like she's kind of forming a cult, but then she's, like, doing. She's smoking cigs, but so it's like, basically, if Gwen Stefan. Gwen Stefan. Gwyneth Paltrow was. Was Gwen Stefan. If Gwyneth Paltrow, which is a whole lie, just rotting on the couch all day and smoking weed and just a fucking mess. But then, like, she gets enough.
- [43:11]
Grace
Like, it's a movie about how everyone is just a Persona.
- [43:14]
Hannah
Yes.
- [43:15]
Grace
Like a character of themselves.
- [43:17]
Hannah
I mean, Legally Blonde, the moment when she was like, I was getting liposuction, that was so iconic and needed to be looked into more. And, like, I want a whole separate movie on that woman's life.
- [43:27]
Grace
Yes.
- [43:28]
Hannah
And also, it's. It holds to this day so many fitness influencers are doing cocaine on the weekends and have bbls.
- [43:38]
Grace
100%. You're so right.
- [43:41]
Paige
You're serious.
- [43:41]
Grace
We need this period.
- [43:43]
Hannah
Period. Okay. We're gonna make that movie.
- [43:46]
Grace
One thing I did want to say that I saw over the weekend that I just. Just. I just looked at it and I said, iconic behavior, and I'm happy. Kim Kardashian making the new movie Wicked. Kim Kardashian making Wicked. Give her the movie because she's like, north wants to see it early, and I'm doing a viewing at my home for all of my nieces and nephews. Iconic behavior. I. I just. I loved it.
- [44:13]
Hannah
Would you say it's giving Mirandus Priestley. Give me the Harry Potter book?
- [44:18]
Grace
I love when rich people do rich people things and, like, are unforgive. Like, unapologetic about it. Like, yeah. The movie doesn't come out for a couple weeks. Kim Kardashian's already seen it in her own home in her sweatpants because she freaking wanted to. And I just. I love behavior like that. It makes me giddy.
- [44:40]
Hannah
I love that too. Let's stop pretending to be relatable.
- [44:43]
Grace
No.
- [44:44]
Hannah
When you're not.
- [44:44]
Grace
I don't want Kim Kardashian to be relatable. To me. I Want to look at her and be like that.
- [44:51]
Hannah
What is that?
- [44:51]
Grace
Like, yeah, I want my children to see the last Harry Potter before everybody else sees it. You know, like, that's why I'm on tour.
- [45:01]
Hannah
They did post and they promoted the fuck out of it, so I think everyone was happy. But, yeah, I love how you're.
- [45:06]
Grace
It was a win win. It was a win win. I will say, actually, Cynthia. Cynthia Erivo, who's in Wicked, hosted the cfda.
- [45:14]
Kim
Oh.
- [45:15]
Grace
There's something about a British woman hosting an American award ceremony that I just loved because a lot of people got up there and bashed the French. Just all of the French, really.
- [45:28]
Hannah
And.
- [45:29]
Grace
And then some. I forget who it was. Someone then, like, got up to accept an award and she was like, well, I'm French. Someone was like, we went to Paris Fashion Week, and the French never saw us coming. I was like, okay, guys, get over it.
- [45:44]
Hannah
They have their own war going on with France. I do have to say, in terms of movies, I've been watching shit, because.
- [45:53]
Grace
Like, I feel like you're not a movie person.
- [45:56]
Hannah
I watched Woman of the Hour with Anna Kendrick on Netflix.
- [46:00]
Grace
Women of the Hour.
- [46:02]
Hannah
Woman of the Hour. It's based on a true story about a serial killer who got on a dating show.
- [46:09]
Grace
Oh, I saw. I watched it.
- [46:11]
Hannah
Yeah. What did you think? Anna Kendrick directed it.
- [46:15]
Grace
I really like her.
- [46:16]
Hannah
Yeah.
- [46:17]
Grace
Anna Kendrick. I feel like I've always really enjoyed her movies. I thought it was really good and creepy, and I liked that it was based on a true story. And this just goes to show that reality TV does not do background checks.
- [46:31]
Hannah
No. Also, if anything, they're like, would he murder someone? Perfect. Put him in perfect.
- [46:36]
Grace
Cast him perfect.
- [46:37]
Hannah
Does he have multiple personality disorders? Great, let's do this.
- [46:41]
Grace
Did he fail the psych eval? Make him the star.
- [46:45]
Hannah
Yeah, they make you do a psycho valve just to make sure you're crazy enough. Oh, my God. But Woman on the Hour, it's. It's Was interesting because it's a female's perspective on a male serial killer, and it really focuses on the girls and their fear and their experience of this creepy guy. Instead of making it like, the serial killer is this, like, kind of, like, interesting, misunderstood superhero. Instead it was just like, the crazy dude that's following you home.
- [47:14]
Grace
I. Not to get, like, so deep into, like, serial killers, but, like, I am interested. Are there no female serial killers or are they just not getting caught?
- [47:27]
Hannah
Great question. So it's just there's a lot fewer female serial killers than male serial killers. Same with like school shooters. Same with just, like, violence.
- [47:36]
Grace
Are there a lot fewer female serial killers, or are they just legit, not getting caught?
- [47:42]
Hannah
No, I think men just, like, love violence.
- [47:46]
Grace
True, true. They're, like, more predisposed to it.
- [47:49]
Hannah
Yeah. Like, I'll emotionally terrorize someone and get revenge, but I'm not gonna, like, strangle them and stab them to death. However. Sorry.
- [47:59]
Grace
Some.
- [47:59]
Hannah
I've been watching too many murder documentaries. Can you not. Not my face. There's actually. It's called am I a monster? Oh, what's it called? She's a female serial killer. On. Is it on, Max? Am I a monster?
- [48:18]
Grace
Because I feel like any female serial killer, like, our generation is just like, yeah, she killed some men, and, like, as she should.
- [48:28]
Hannah
If the men are abusive, what do you want her to do?
- [48:31]
Grace
Yeah, I feel like female serial killers are really just vigilantes.
- [48:35]
Hannah
It's called I'm not a monster. The Lois Reese murders. And so basically, she ends up killing her husband and goes on the run. And I'm kind of, like, leaning towards. I was like, look, he probably pissed her off. Yeah.
- [48:53]
Grace
Like, what? He did?
- [48:54]
Hannah
Like, what did he do to deserve that? And then. But then she's on the run, and she meets some woman at a random bar and kills her.
- [49:02]
Grace
Sir. Okay.
- [49:03]
Hannah
So then I'm like, okay, you can't kill the girls. You can't kill the girls. That's not girl code. So then she gets caught, and she's in jail, and they're talking to her, and she's basically like, I don't really remember what happened, but she has rampant mental health problems in her family.
- [49:20]
Paige
Yeah.
- [49:20]
Grace
Like, her.
- [49:21]
Hannah
Her mom was submitted, so it's like, that's schizophrenia. And she didn't. It's. It's complicated. She didn't mean to.
- [49:30]
Grace
She didn't know.
- [49:31]
Hannah
But speaking of what women do, Elizabeth Finch. Everyone's talking about Anatomy of lies on Peacock, which is about your Grey's Anatomy. She was the head writer. Have you watched it yet? No. You haven't?
- [49:45]
Grace
I haven't because I'm scared that I'm gonna watch it and be like, I don't want to watch Grey's Anatomy anymore. And I feel like I'm such a good part of Grey's Anatomy.
- [49:54]
Hannah
Wait till you fin of Scree's Anatomy to watch it. But it's basically just, you know those people in your life that you're like, wow, all this crazy stuff keeps happening. Like, it's like that chaotic friend where every day she's like, oh, my God, like, my My cousin got hit by a car. And then, like, I.
- [50:12]
Grace
Right. Like, if someone came to you and was like, this girl that, you know, that you always thought was crazy, she is, in fact, crazy, you'd be like, yeah, I could have called that.
- [50:21]
Hannah
What's crazy about this situation is she would hear other people's traumatizing stories and then, like, take them as her own. So someone would be like, oh, I was. You know.
- [50:34]
Grace
You know, I feel like I've met a lot of people like that.
- [50:38]
Hannah
Yeah.
- [50:39]
Grace
Like, I feel like I've met a lot of women who. I'm like, all right, did you just, like, retell me a story or, like, did that actually happen?
- [50:47]
Hannah
Well, it's kind of like they realize that they get attention by stealing someone's trauma because they see someone who's going through trauma and how much positive attention they get. So they'll be like, oh, this happened to me. Especially in the public eye, when people.
- [51:02]
Grace
Are, like, kind of like when you're a little kid and you, like, want to make yourself cry harder.
- [51:07]
Hannah
Yes.
- [51:08]
Grace
It's like that mental. Where you're like. And then you kind of realize, like, that's crazy.
- [51:12]
Hannah
Yeah. And also, like, you're hurting the people around. You're traumatizing people around you when you walk in and tell everyone you have cancer.
- [51:19]
Grace
Yeah.
- [51:19]
Hannah
And you don't. But, like, it's a. It's like people who lied about, like, being involved in 9 11. She lied about, like, being involved in a shooting, and she.
- [51:29]
Grace
The most I can relate to that is, like, wanting to have a retainer when everyone had a retainer, and, like, putting, like, a fruit roll up on the roof of my mouth and being like, I have a retainer. It's like, no, you don't. No, you don't. Stop stealing my trauma.
- [51:43]
Hannah
But it is the, like. Like being obsessed with being the victim and then being like, this is the only way people will like me or give me attention if I have a horrible thing. I. Where it's funny because I love attention more than anyone. I hate attention where I feel like I'm upsetting people around me. Like, when something bad happens. When I got hit by a car, I was like, I can't tell my mom. It'll ruin her day. I can't tell her.
- [52:08]
Grace
I. Okay, See, I have a similar thing, but in, like, a different way. I don't think about hurting the people around me. I think more about. I don't like the feeling when people feel bad for me.
- [52:20]
Hannah
Yeah.
- [52:20]
Grace
So, like, I don't like being the victim because I just don't want people's like, pity, like, oh, you think you're better than me? You feel bad for me? Like, you like, I don't like that.
- [52:32]
Hannah
That's both of our own individual issues coming.
- [52:35]
Grace
Our own individual mental health issues. Yeah, yeah.
- [52:38]
Hannah
So that was craziness.
- [52:41]
Grace
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- [56:35]
Hannah
We got a new cult documentary, guys. Don't get too excited. It's called Breath of Fire. It's on Max. The first episode just came out. The second one's coming out Wednesday night. And it's about Kundalini yoga and this woman who.
- [56:51]
Grace
Is that a person's name or is that a type of yoga?
- [56:54]
Hannah
A type of yoga. It's basically the guy who started it claimed that it was this like ancient practice and he got all these hippies to start doing it and he created all these businesses. He created yogi teachers. Okay. Like he's, he's like a multi millionaire.
- [57:12]
Grace
Yeah.
- [57:12]
Hannah
And then this woman who actually they're finding out didn't really know him but like says that she did and that he like basically gave her his powers or whatever, started her own kind of entrepreneurial thing. And it's. And I Find out that one of my friends from college was in it. Stop. Because I. I'm watching it, and it's showing one of my friends dancing in one of their, like, seances. And I messaged my friend, and she's like, yeah. And I'm like, do you have any information? And she was like, it's like every.
- [57:46]
Grace
Thoughts.
- [57:46]
Hannah
She was like, it's like every cult. It was good when it's started. Yeah, she basically was like, it was good in the beginning. Like, it always is good in the beginning.
- [57:55]
Grace
I'm kind of so mad that no one I went to high school with is, like, in a cult or, like, selling weird hair care.
- [58:02]
Hannah
Are you sure? Like, have you gone through your Facebook recently? Because statistically, that's impossible.
- [58:07]
Grace
It's so funny because I literally have such a bad memory. So, like, I can't sometimes. Like, I'll see people from high school, and I'll be like, this is really bad that I can't remember their name. So I'll have to call Stephanie and be like, what is this girl's name again? And she'll be like, you literally sat next to her every single day. Like, you have to go get your brain checked. So, like, I can't even think of people to be like, they would have been in a cult. I have to, like, wait until I'm in the same room as Stephanie to, like, go down the line of people in high school to be like, what are they doing now? And then she, like, she'll tell me, and she'll show me their Facebooks.
- [58:42]
Hannah
The final documentary that I watched on Amazon is about Milli Vanilli, and it was fascinating.
- [58:48]
Grace
Wait, who is that again?
- [58:50]
Hannah
So it's these two, like, German guys who. Let me give you the tea. So actually, their song is blowing up right now because of the Menendez show, because they play a Milli Vanilli song throughout it.
- [59:06]
Grace
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
- [59:08]
Hannah
So it's these two guys who are living in the projects. They're young, and they're really good at dancing, and they're in Germany. In Germany. And they're gorgeous. Like, so handsome. And they start, like, throwing parties, and they start to get a little momentum, but they're broke. Suddenly a famous producer reaches out and was like, I want you to. And I want to produce you guys. And they're like, okay.
- [59:31]
Grace
I love when people get discovered.
- [59:33]
Hannah
Get discovered. Sign documents. Don't hear from the producer for, like, six months. And they're like, that's weird. I thought we were making music. They finally get a Call. And they're like, okay, this is the deal. We made the music. We'd love for you guys to lip sync it. And apparently the guys were like, what? Like, we want to sing it. But then other people say that they were like, okay, fine, whatever, like, we'll lip sync it. Which, like, is valid. Whatever. They were getting paid, but they also, like, they had thick accents and they were singing, like, English songs.
- [60:08]
Grace
Yeah, yeah.
- [60:09]
Hannah
So the song fucking blows up, like, huge. And they make more music and they kind of get.
- [60:19]
Grace
Do they ever say who the real singers were or.
- [60:21]
Hannah
No, they're interviewing the real singers, but the real singers are being told, like, you cannot say anything. But they're. What they did is they. The producers tried to not tell people what was going on. Like, at first they would lie and be like, oh, yeah, Milli Vanilli is coming later. So people didn't know. And then they get signed to a huge record company who claims they didn't know. But then also, look, looking back at it, some of the people who sing nowadays, look, there's so much technology on the Voice. Like, they're not even really singing. Like, I wasn't that offended by it.
- [60:56]
Grace
When I go to a concert, like, if you're singing with the vocal track, I would never be mad at you.
- [61:04]
Hannah
No. And it's like, so. And these guys are gorgeous. They're amazing dancers and they're lip syncing and. But you know what? It was fine. But this is the problem. One of their managers decides to submit them for a Grammy and everyone starts freaking out, mad at him, and he's like, why are people mad at me? Like, I think that they had an incredible year and they should be like, best new Artist for the Grammys. But they win the fucking Grammy and then they go to, like, superstardom. And then they start basically telling the producer, like, we want to sing, let us sing. And then they started blackmailing the producer, being like, we're not gonna go do this unless you give us, like, this money. Because the music industry is fucked up. Like, they're not getting paid a lot, even though they're making millions and millions of dollars for people. So then the producer goes, you know what? I created a monster. Fuck you. Goes on and does a press meeting.
- [62:04]
Grace
Yeah.
- [62:05]
Hannah
And basically says, these guys have been lip syncing and everyone hates Milli Vanilli. They. They get in huge trouble.
- [62:14]
Grace
No one trust anyone.
- [62:15]
Hannah
No one's mad at the producer who created this whole thing, Milli Vanilli. One of them dies of a drug overdose cuz he's I know, but it ends so beautifully because the guy who lived, like, actually is a really good singer and he, like, continued to make music for himself. And now it shows him, like, singing the Milli Vanilli songs in his own voice. And it's really good, and it's like a beautiful full circle moment. But they were, like, literally the biggest, like, embarrassment joke of the early 90s.
- [62:51]
Grace
Wait, that makes me so sad for them.
- [62:54]
Hannah
Yeah, but if they hadn't won the Grammy, they might have been doing it for a long time. But again, there's so many pop stars that. That don't actually sing. But I guess they were like, the first. I mean, auto tune.
- [63:07]
Grace
Wait, that actually brings a good segue because I wonder how you feel about this. Did you see Charlie xcx, like, yelling at the LA crowd when she was performing that they weren't, like, hype enough and, like, singing along with her?
- [63:21]
Hannah
We're talking about Chapel Ron or Charlie xcx?
- [63:23]
Grace
Charlie xcx. No, she, like, did it. She did a concert in la and she's, like, performing and, like, the people on the floor, like, in like. Oh, the general admission, like, on the floor, she was like, come on, guys. Like, are you kidding? Like, I don't think they were, like, singing along or, like, dancing as much as she wanted. And, like, part of me, part of me, like, I get it. Like, if I'm her and the crowd is, like, not hyped, I'm upset, but, like, as myself, like, I would just, like, eat that and, like, take a beta blocker later. Like, I don't think I would be able to say anything to the crowd.
- [64:03]
Hannah
Well, Chapel Roan yelled at the VIP section. Do you remember? She was like, vip? You guys suck.
- [64:08]
Grace
Yeah. And like, I mean, Charlie XCX is a millennial, but, like, are you trying.
- [64:15]
Hannah
To come for Gen Z's again?
- [64:16]
Grace
No, I guess that is just like, Gen Z is a lot better at, like, calling things out. I think in the moment where, like, other generations are like, let us, like, ruminate on this.
- [64:29]
Hannah
I feel like I know the point you're trying to make because I'm not.
- [64:32]
Grace
Even trying to make a point. It's more just like, I don't know what I would do in that situation because, like, I am not a pop.
- [64:38]
Hannah
Star first and foremost. We've never made a point on this pod.
- [64:41]
Grace
Never. No. No points.
- [64:43]
Hannah
No points have been ever been made.
- [64:44]
Grace
That's, like, stressful.
- [64:46]
Hannah
No.
- [64:47]
Grace
When anyone says you can get it back with points, I'm like, I don't know. What that means?
- [64:52]
Hannah
Well, it's equivalent to comedians. So when you're a comic and the crowd's not great, there's two ways you can go about it. You can be like, take it internally and be like, I have to be better. It's my job to make them laugh. Or you can blame them and be like, you guys fucking suck. Suck. And sometimes, yes, sometimes the crowd, it's a weird night, the vibe is off. Like, crowds are always different, right?
- [65:16]
Grace
Like, we've, like, we've definitely done giggly squad lives where we've been. Like, that crowd was so crazy and they were loved every minute. And then like, oh, that crowd was a little tame. Yeah, yeah, they were tired.
- [65:27]
Hannah
Or like some comics will straight up be like yelling at the audience, like, fuck you guys. That was a funny joke. And like, your job is to make them laugh. And also. So just know, okay, sometimes the crowd isn't as good. But like, this is part of the job.
- [65:42]
Grace
See, I would be as a, I would, I put myself in the situation of like, as someone who bought a ticket to see this. If a comedian said, okay, guys, fuck you, like, you didn't think that's funny. I rather that than be at a concert and the performer be like, are you guys kidding? Get up and dance. Because who I am, I'm not getting up and dancing anyway. Like, I came to watch you dance. I don't want to perform it. I don't want to perform it. That's why I bought a ticket to watch you perform it.
- [66:15]
Hannah
But you know what? Part of her job is to get the crowd hyped. And maybe like, that was her strategy to be like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Like, get the fuck up, let's fucking go. Also, she's probably fucking tired.
- [66:26]
Grace
Tired. Like, she's tired.
- [66:28]
Hannah
Problem on tour, once you get so tired and you say one loose thing that goes on tick tock when like you've just. You're three hours into a show or whatever these people do on these.
- [66:40]
Grace
Yeah. Or like, she just snapped. Like, she's been on tour, she's tired. She's just, okay, you guys are annoying me.
- [66:47]
Hannah
She's being a brat.
- [66:48]
Grace
She's being a brat. And like, I can't. But yeah, I don't want mad at her.
- [66:52]
Hannah
I don't want to pay money to be yelled at to do stuff. But also, I think she was just trying to like, get the energy and she probably had some frustration and that's how she showed it. But we just want to let people know for the giggly squad shows. You have no responsibilities.
- [67:07]
Grace
You can go to zero. None. You have zero. I would never.
- [67:10]
Hannah
You can eat, you can leave, you can literally. You can cry.
- [67:14]
Grace
Yeah. We're just all out here trying to survive and I think we should just remember that at the end of the day, everyone is literally.
- [67:24]
Hannah
Yep.
- [67:24]
Grace
Just out here trying to survive. And. And you did your best for today, and that's all you can ask for.
- [67:32]
Hannah
Speaking of shows, we do have some tickets left in San Antonio. Grand Prairie, Texas. Orlando, Florida. Mashantucket, Connecticut.
- [67:43]
Grace
Cleveland.
- [67:44]
Hannah
Mashantucket. The Foxwoods Resort Casino. That's going to be crazy. It's like 4, 000 people. Cleveland, Ohio. We added a second show and we gotta move some more tickets. Let's get the fuck up. Cleveland, Ohio. And we have a couple tickets left for the second Radio City show. And a little bit left in Windsor, Ontario, because we're international.
- [68:07]
Grace
Yes, we are.
- [68:08]
Hannah
Yes, we are. We're quite cultured. Any other notes?
- [68:16]
Grace
I think that was it. I think that was all I had.
- [68:20]
Hannah
Well, thank you guys so much for giggling with us. We love you so much and we'll talk to you later. Bye.