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Farnoosh Tarabi
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Paige
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Hannah
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Paige
Sun Cruiser is a refreshing iced tea and vodka drink.
Hannah
It's a non carbonated so no bubbles, fill you up or have you burping. And it's only 100 calories. It's so easy when people come over to just offer them drinks that already taste good. Easy cleanup.
Paige
Here you go.
Hannah
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Paige
It brings the sunny vibes to you.
Hannah
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Grace
Manifest that we can't be managed.
Hannah
I mean, the day just got away from me.
Grace
What's up my giggleristas? I think that's cute as. That's cute.
Hannah
Wait, I don't know why this just triggered this, but this is so funny. Okay, so we when we got home from tour, we got home what? Friday night we drove home from Atlantic City. And then Saturday, my mom, like, stayed with me all day, and then, like, took the train later in the day. And one of the things she said to me was, hannah's always, like, so happy. Like, she's always in such a good mood. And I was like, no, literally, I think I could count on my hand, like, how many times I've actually seen her, like, upset or in a bad mood. And she goes. And, like, she's so silly. Like, everything she says is, like, silly. And I, like, start laughing. I'm like, no, I know. She's so funny. And she goes, it's interesting because. Say it. If anyone else had Hannah's personality, you would hate them. You would get so annoyed. But everything she says, you're dying laughing. And I start laughing just, like, thinking about you. She's like, she's like your real best friend. I was like, no, I think everything she says is pure comedy gold.
Grace
She's not as funny as you think she is. She's. The average person would be like, okay, we get it. She's like, someone's insecure.
Hannah
Something wrong with you guys. You think everything is funny. I'm like, no, it is.
Grace
No, we have. We have. Well, thank you, Kim, for calling me a little silly goose. We had fun on tour.
Hannah
No, we advise.
Grace
We had fun with your mom on tour. However, we almost died again.
Hannah
No, we almost.
Grace
Should we discuss. Should we go right into it? Well, I decided I have a rule. If it takes less than three hours to drive somewhere, we're gonna drive instead of plane. Because even if a plane's quick, the whole driving, so whatever. So this took three and a half hours to drive, but I was like, we're doing it. We're going at night. We're gonna fly through traffic. Because after shows, you're all hyped up.
Hannah
You're hyped up. There's also something like, about being on the east coast where, like, you're like, well, we'll just drive like we were in Washington, D.C. i'm not flying.
Grace
We don't know where anything is on the East Coast. We just know that we're close.
Hannah
I have a better gauge of where we are when we're on the east coast, obviously, than like the West Coast.
Grace
So Florida, Rhode island, same.
Hannah
We do a show in our last show in Washington, D.C. and then the next day we have to be in Atlantic City. So after Washington, D.C. we're like, let's just get in a car service, drive to Atlantic City.
Grace
And it was kind of a last minute decision on our part. I'm like, fuck it, we're driving.
Hannah
Last minute decision. Also, I like. I like driving because it's just me, you and Grace. So, like, we're all together. It's like easy. Three is like an easy number.
Grace
But, well, the first drama started where you go in the back where you like to go because you like to lay down.
Hannah
I get the third row.
Grace
But Kim was in the car with us, and I'm not putting Kim in the back. Kim, his mother, period. I said, kim, you go in the seat over there and you're not sitting next to the strange man in the front.
Paige
Grace.
Grace
Neither is Grace.
Hannah
Grace is our CEO. So she gets a bucket seat.
Grace
So she gets a bucket seat. So I go to the back and I can feel your eyes looking at me. I can feel you being like, how did you. And I'm like.
Hannah
I felt like I was like, who are you? This is the back row. This is for sleepy iPad on the end.
Grace
I'm like, forget I'm here. And you're watching. Like, this is us. No, you're watching Grey's Anatomy. You're all in on it.
Hannah
I'm deep in Grey's Anatomy. So I'm in the tries to talk.
Grace
To you and you're like, we're watch. I'm watching Grey's Anatomy. What do you think this is, a fucking TED Talk?
Hannah
No, When I travel, I have to get into my own cocoon. I have to be in myself, be with myself.
Grace
Kim's like, why did you bring me here if you're just going to watch Grey's Anatomy the whole time?
Hannah
She's a good energy source to have. So we're in the car, we're driving the three. Hannah, Grace and my mom are like, chatting, talking. It's like the first hour of the ride. I'm headphones watching my iPad. Something comes over me. I think maybe I saw Hannah laughing and I was like, what is Hannah laughing about? I want to know what they're talking about.
Grace
We were actually having, like a really cute talk with Kim and we were, like, talking about you a little. Like when you were little or something. I was looking back at you and you sense there was fun, there is, like, happening.
Hannah
So I take my headphones off and I'm now I'm engaged in the conversation. I don't notice it as much when we're like leaving Washington, D.C. because it's probably what, like 11pm and there was like a little bit of traffic. It's a car service. It wasn't an Uber. So, like, I'm really not thinking about it. We're on the road now. We're like an hour and a half into the car ride, maybe two hours into the car ride. And I take my head like midnight. Yeah, it's like midnight. I'm now alert in the car and I'm noticing the driver and. And I rarely am. I rarely ever like this. But if there's one thing about me I do not fuck around. And one of those, like, oh, I don't know if in a past life something did happen to me in a car because like, even in high school, like I've never thought it was funny to go super fast. Like, I do not. No, I was always the kid in the car that was like, put your seat belt on and like, don't do that. Like, I don't like any shenanigans.
Grace
That's why I don't drive. That's why I don't drive. I said I'm not. I'm not. We don't play the percentage that Hannah.
Hannah
Doesn'T have a license. It's for the greater good.
Grace
But my thing is, cuz I don't drive, I don't have those little alerts like when I have no clue what's going. Someone could ram a curb and I'll be like, do you want to go to Wendy's? Like, I don't care and I don't notice anything and I'm just here for fun. I'm here for the funsies.
Hannah
So the first thing I notice is we're in a two lane highway. We're in the left lane, tractor trailers in the right lane. He's coming up to like pass us and our driver starts to go into like the shoulder where like the bumps are. So like we're feeling it and I feel that he's. And I'm like, the tractor trailer isn't getting that close to us that like we need to be in the shoulder of the lane. Like, is this guy like losing control of the car? That kerfuffle gets like fixed. He's like back on the road. Okay, now I'm alert. Now I'm watching his eyes in the rear view mirror from the third row and he's taking like really long blinks. And I'm like, this fucking guy.
Grace
Is he like, see, I'm trying to see him, but it's gotten dark at that point. And at this point everything's gone silent in the car. And we're all speaking with our eyes. I'm looking at you, you're looking at your mom. She's looking at Grace. Grace is looking at me. I'm looking at you. This goes on for like 30 minutes where this guy keeps doing weird shit.
Hannah
Doing weird shit. In the beginning of the car ride, which Hannah pointed out. This is great detective work. Hannah pointed out that in the beginning of the car ride, we pulled off to a gas station station, Which I thought, when you gotta go, you gotta go. This guy had a pee. We're about to get it on. Three hour car ride. He's gotta go. Hannah said, flags up.
Grace
That was weird.
Hannah
I've never had a driver stop in the beginning of the ride. Usually they're a little bit more prepared. He got a snack.
Grace
So, yeah, this is the thing. He. 25 minutes in is like, can I pull over? I've never had it. Also, I'm like, pee in the. In the woods. Like, I don't know. Like, we don't need to. Whatever. I was fine with it. But then he was gone for kind of a bit, and he comes back without a coffee or a Red Bull, which is also weird. He just got chips. So we're in full investigative mode. And that was while you were still on your iPad. And Grace and your mom, who are better at driving than me, look at each other. And they were like, is he driving kind of aggressive?
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
So they already were on his case. But then ears were perked up. We were.
Hannah
We were in it. So then he starts to. We're in the middle lane. He starts to go really slow, and I. So, like, my head is like, 55. Yeah, 55. On, like, a major highway.
Grace
On the highway, yeah.
Hannah
Like, yeah. So I say to him, I speak up and I go, sir, are you okay to drive? Do you want to pull over for a little? Are you getting tired? Because, I mean, it is like 12:30 at this point.
Grace
He. Which I was so proud of you for speaking up because I didn't have the balls. I was like, I do not want to upset this man. Take me out. If that's how I die, that's how I die. I'm not accusing this man of falling asleep right now. He could be passed out in the car and I wouldn't want to wake him up.
Hannah
Me and Hannah are in the third row row. As soon as I speak up and start talking, Hannah crouches down behind the seat and, like, ducks her head down.
Grace
It is so funny that we did reality tv, because I can't explain to people how much I hate confrontation.
Hannah
I like shark.
Grace
I remember. But you were so polite about. You're just like, sir, are you okay? I think it was so awkward because it was so obvious that he wasn't okay, because he was like.
Hannah
He was not okay.
Grace
He kept not using his blinker because I think he was just, like, he was falling asleep and then going to another lane. That. Pretending it was on purpose when it wasn't. Yes.
Hannah
And it wasn't. Not a blinker in sight, Hannah.
Grace
And then there were some. Not a blinker.
Hannah
You go, a blinker has not been used at one point in this car.
Grace
And look, I don't know how to use a blinker, but I know you have to use it. You were right.
Hannah
You were so spot on.
Grace
And then there was a turn he had to do, and he, like, did not know. I mean, do you remember what I said? I said, this is. I whispered to you, I said, this is how I drive during my nightmares, when I have to drive and I can't control the car.
Hannah
So if you could just imagine.
Grace
Wake up.
Hannah
How Hannah drives in her dream is how it felt being in this car. So he then does this really crazy turn, like, off of an exit to, like, get on, like, this different highway. And, I mean, we almost go full force into a cement wall. And that's when I go, okay. So then I speak up again, and I go, sir, do you mind pulling off on the next exit? And he goes, yeah, no problem. Pulls off on the next exit. I go. I go, literally, any parking lot, pick.
Grace
A parking lot, laughing. Because Paige is just in, like, we need to fix this mode, where I'm thinking, we have to explain to this guy what's going on, even though he's pretending he's fine. So you just go any parking lot. And he's like, the Wawa. Do you want. I got you. Paige is like, right here. So it's this bank that's closed, and we're sitting there, and Paige is like, I'm calling an Uber to her mom. Like, well, she shows us. So I'm like, okay, perfect. Then it says, 13 minutes away. So I'm like, are we all just going to sit here in silence for 13 minutes? And the guy's like, do you want food? And Paige is like, no, thank you. And I'm just like, oh, God, this is so awkward. So then I made it ten times.
Hannah
More awkward than it needed to be. But I was also pissed.
Grace
Well, you were pissed, and then. I don't. Okay. I was scared. So then finally, your mom is like, paige, let's just go to a Wawa.
Paige
Yeah.
Grace
Which was like, go to a Wawa.
Hannah
Shout out down the road. So I. I text the Uber driver. It was a girl, which a saint of a woman. I text the Uber driver, and I go, I'm literally across the street at the Wawa. Can you pull in there? And she goes, yep, no problem. So the three.
Grace
Are we sure a woman driver is the next best option?
Hannah
So when. So we get into the Wawa, the three of us, and the Uber's like.
Grace
Well, we start having a. We start having a meeting.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
So all of us are whispering. We're like, okay, what the fuck is going on? And we're whispering to each other like, are you okay? What's happening? And then he comes in the Wawa, and Grace and I run into the bathroom. And then Grace and I are hiding in the bathroom.
Hannah
And then he walks out, gets back into the car. And then at that point, our Uber is, like, about to fall.
Grace
Doesn't get a coffee.
Hannah
Still doesn't get a coffee. Doesn't get an energy drink, nothing. So Hannah and Grace come out, and they're like, what?
Grace
You had to be like, come out?
Hannah
Yeah. I was like, we have to go get our bags. And Hannah's like, what are we saying to the guy? And I go, nothing. We're just saying we're getting.
Grace
You go, I'll handle it. I'll handle it.
Hannah
I go, all talk.
Grace
I'll talk. You go handle it. I go, okay. So then Paige just walks first, and she just starts taking the stuff out of the car. And the guy's like, are you okay? And she goes, yeah, take it out. The car walks out. So then I'm left standing with him, and he's like, what's going on? And I go, our friends picking us up? So then he goes, okay, I'll wait for your friend to come. And I was like, it's okay. But this is like 1am at a Wawa in the middle of nowhere. Us, three beautiful women, four beautiful women, just helpless on the corner.
Hannah
All I could think in my head is, no fucking way. Is my legacy stopping at dead in Atlantic City, age 31. I refuse. Like, there's just no way. That's where my journey ends.
Grace
But no, we were in a death trap. But then our people pleasing was. We're gonna stay in that death trap because we didn't want to make this guy uncomfortable. But then part of me was like, is he falling asleep? Or, like, was he just, like, drunk or high or really bad at driving? And then at one point, you were like, do I have to drive? Yeah, like, I'll tell Him.
Hannah
That was my first thought. I was gonna say, hey, why don't you pull. I was gonna say, like, is this your car? Or, like, the company's car? Because why don't you pull over and I'll just drive the, like, next 45 minutes. But then I didn't want him. I didn't want to say that. And him be like, no, no, no. What are you talking about? And let's get into, like, a kerfuffle. And I was like, you know what path of least resistance? I'm getting a car, making it sure that it's right here. Then we're leaving.
Grace
My favorite is how the whole time I was like, this is so awkward. And then I was the last person to speak to him and explain what was going on. And I go, look, a friend just randomly said, hey, I'm going to meet you at Wawa at this stop in New Jersey.
Hannah
Well, first of all, no is a complete sentence. He didn't need to know where we were going or what was going on. That's not what he was there for.
Grace
Help us get the.
Hannah
Take the bag out of the car.
Grace
That was so weird. Anyway. It was fucking weird. But then this lady came. An angel.
Hannah
An angel son from Earth. Took us the next 45 minutes to the Hard Rock Casino. We yapped the entire way there about how we almost got killed. But honestly, Hannah, what an amaz, like, societal teaching moment. Because all of those, like, nerves about, like, saying something to him is literally because you don't ever want to make, like, a man feel like you're, like, accusing them or, like, saying something. But, like, what was the alternative? We died in the. In a car accident. Like, I couldn't let it happen.
Grace
You know what helped me? You know what helped me? I. Well, it didn't help me, but I saw a video that hopefully will help someone else is clearly they don't care that they're making you uncomfortable.
Hannah
Right.
Grace
So why are you caring that you're making them uncomfortable? And I think we could use this. Also, in your early 20s, when you're, like, with a dude and he's making you uncomfortable in whatever type of way, and you're like, well, I don't. I don't want to make him upset. Or an older guy who's saying weird stuff to you and you're like, well, I don't. He's making you uncomfortable.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
It's like when, like, someone. A crazy person comes up to you on the street. Be crazy back.
Hannah
Yeah. No. All I could think was, like, in the next Second, something's going to happen and I'm going to be like, why the fuck didn't I say something and get us out of this situation.
Grace
No, you were the champion. Who knew? You know why you did it? Because you were the only one on beta blockers.
Hannah
The only one who had a body calm. I was like, I can handle this. I was like, my blood pressure is a perfect 85.
Grace
No, you. You saved our lives. Look, tour life is not boring. No, that's one thing.
Hannah
It's not boring. They could literally never a dull moment. Then we get to our hotel at like 1am and it's feels like 1:30. It's just so Atlantic City. Just the vibes and all of it.
Grace
Casinos are fun because they're for, like, older people who hate their children but want to go to Disney Worlds.
Hannah
No, I just kept, like, thinking about, like, what was Atlantic City like in the 50s and 60s?
Grace
I do think it was out of season. Speaking of seasons, there's this podcast called Two Dykes and a Mic.
Paige
Okay.
Grace
That came across my algorithm and they said something very interesting and funny. They said, summer is for gay men.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
Fall is for lesbians.
Hannah
Okay.
Grace
And then winter is for straight women. And then, like, Christmas and stuff.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
And then I don't know if they finished it, but I guess then straight men is spring. And it's very. It was interesting how we all got.
Hannah
A season that is interesting.
Grace
And bisexuals get everything. I guess.
Hannah
And can I tell you something to even further prove your point? For whatever reason, I think it's because it's my first, like, holiday season in my new apartment. I've been ordering Christmas decorations.
Paige
Can't stop.
Hannah
And I'm never. I'm never, like, a Christmas person. Like, I want to decorate. I want to do all these things. Can't find the right garland. Driving me nuts, babe.
Grace
It's not even Halloween yet.
Hannah
I know. Well, I already have my pumpkins out, so, like, I'm on to the next thing. I'm on to the next thing.
Grace
We're on to the next thing. Also, people have been asking. We are dressing up for our Seattle show.
Hannah
We are dressing up.
Grace
So if you don't dress up, you won't be stoned or anything, but if you do dress up, we are supporting you.
Hannah
Someone did email me. Someone did DM me and ask if there was, like, a theme. No theme. Hannah and I were going to do, like, a. Like a together one, but now we're doing. We're being individualists.
Grace
Yeah, we're being individualists also. Another side note about TikTok, I don't know if it's just because I spent the last two days scrolling as my mental health, but the algorithm. My algorithm is so bad right now. Like, first of all, you know, think about baby, the boys dancing. Have you seen that thing where the guys go, I can't do this for your daughter. I love your daughter. I can do this. And then they dance and. No, all I know is if you watch one thing right now with TikTok, it thinks you're obsessed with it. And then we'll show you, like, 40 of the same videos. The Gracie Abrams song, which I love, but it's a sad song, and I don't like sad songs being stuck in my head. I think it subconsciously is bad for you. Everything is this Gracie Abrams song. And then I am obsessed with the Menendez brothers right now, but, like, it's the only three things on my feed, and it's, like, driving me up the wall because I know that there's other things on TikTok that I would enjoy.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
Is that happening to you? You have the same shit?
Hannah
A little bit, yeah. Like where, like, I find myself, like, scrolling out of the TikTok app a lot more than I usually do, where I'm like, okay, I'm over TikTok.
Grace
I guess you can say not interested in stuff, but that's not the whole point of an algorithm. But long story short, I am enthralled by the Menendez brothers, and in November, they might be released.
Hannah
Did you watch the Netflix, like, actual document? You did? I might watch it tonight. Is it really good?
Grace
Yes. I highly recommend. I highly recommend people watch. And it still didn't have all the information because I got even more from TikTok. But the Ryan Murphy one is, like, cute. It doesn't represent, really things accurately at all. It scratches the surface. First of all, I mean, it makes me so upset for these men. But basically, they said that in the jury, all the men said the guys were guilty, and then all the women said that the guys were. It was manslaughter, which means, like, that it was murder, but it wasn't, like, premeditated behind it. Of defense. Ex. Well, it was premeditated, but that it would. There was, like, a reason behind. They were feared for their life. They were fearful for their life because the women were able to empathize with abuse, where the men. Sexual abuse was not a thing for men in the 90s, which is just the church. And all this stuff came out later. But it was like the Timing. And cuz OJ Just got. Was not guilty. The DA was like, we cannot let another, like, rich person get away. Get off in the next. Sorry, I like, don't know how to use words with law stuff. See you in court. I'd be the worst lawyer ever. But the next trial, they. That they basically weren't able to show the abuse portion because the judge said that abuse was like, purely a woman's thing. And then people were like, okay, why did he kill the mom? Why did he kill the mom? You should never kill anyone. I'm saying that right now. You should never kill anyone. But it did come out that Lyle was getting sexually abused by the mom.
Hannah
See, that's not in the show.
Grace
No, no.
Hannah
Okay. You know what? I actually, I would have killed those people so long before. Like, that's.
Grace
Yeah, this is my thing too. And it's obviously, you should not kill. You should not kill people. And they needed to go to jail because that was insane. But they were saying that like, the men. The lawyer said that these boys, she could tell they were horribly abused because they actually, like, did well in prison because they had some structure and they weren't getting abused and they actually, like, enjoyed having a place of, like, safety.
Hannah
I'm literally. I'm getting my period next week and I'm crying. That makes me.
Grace
No, I know.
Hannah
Sad for that.
Grace
No, I know. And then all these men that will say like, oh, like, you don't fucking kill your parents, whatever. It's like, yeah, but then if you tell that man, like, someone touched your daughter, they'd be like, I'll fucking kill that guy.
Hannah
No, that's what they did.
Grace
They had this macho and they were insane. Their brains are fully formed and they thought that was the best solution, which is not. Killing is never the right solution.
Hannah
No. If you abused my child or did something to my family member, I don't, I'm telling you, I don't give a fuck if you touched my child. Oh my God. I would literally shoot you in the face and call the police on myself.
Grace
So it's, it's very interesting and at the least it could do. Could spread awareness to, you know, boys get abused too. And who. I'm deep in it right now. Like, I'm so upset about it. And also they kept calling the fucking lawyer crazy. Which, mind you, whenever you look back to a story with a girl that they were calling crazy, this bitch is always right. She's always ahead of her time.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
And that's just history. That's her story.
Hannah
No, it's. Oh, my God. Okay. I'm glad you watched that because I was.
Grace
I highly recommend.
Hannah
I was debating if I was gonna watch it or not or if it was just gonna be, like, a repeat of, like, everything. I've pretty much.
Grace
No, I think it's. It's good. But you'll be, like, deeply entrenched and you. You'll keep having, like, dreams about it and your TikTok will blow up with it.
Hannah
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Hannah
Hey Okay. Speaking of dreams. Oh, so last night, I am in bed. I'm sleeping. It's about. I would say it's like 4:30. I wake up, but I don't wake up. Where I'm like, my eyes are open. Like, I wake up. Like, I'm not asleep anymore, but, like, I'm turning my pillow. And in my head I'm like, I kind of have to pee, but not enough to, like, get up and go pee. I'm like, oh, I'll catch that pee on the next wake up. Like, I'm. I'm good. I really don't even think about it. I think about it for a second, then I fall back asleep at like, 7am I, like. I don't even know. I just, like, wake up and I feel like, my pants. And I just, like, touch my pants. And I'm like, oh, my God, did I pee my pants? And I look over because Craig was at my apartment. And I look over and he's not in the bed. And I'm like, what the. Like, what's going on? And I jump up out of bed, I run to my bathroom. I peed my. I had a pair of sweatpants on. Thank God. I peed so much in my sweatpants. I go back to my bed to, like, see if I peed in the bed. Nothing's in the bed. Craig comes back into my room. I'm like, where were you? He was like, oh, I just, like, went pee in the other bathroom. And he was like, what are you doing up? And I was like, I peed my pants. And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about? And I was like, I don't know. I peed my pants. So then I don't know how it happened. I don't know what happened. And so then, like, a couple hours later, I'm like, I feel like I'm getting a uti. And so I don't know. Usually when my immune system's down, I feel like that's when I get UTIs. I don't know if I was just, like, so tired or if, like, my bladder was, like, getting weak because I was getting UTI and I just peed.
Grace
Well, you know, don't UTIs, like, give this intense feeling like you have to pee?
Hannah
Yeah. I wonder if, like, I had it and I just. My body was just like, no, we gotta get it out.
Grace
First of all, I got. We got some crazy texts from you today. It starts off with, I have to do virtual recording tonight. I have a raging uti I have to Go to urgent care. I wrote, hahaha. Then you go, I peed the bed last night. I don't want to talk about it until the pod. And then I didn't respond to that. I think I was like, she's just trying to get out of the pot.
Hannah
Just, like, burying my soul here. I'm like, something's going on. And you know me. I'm so deep in Grey's Anatomy right now that I'm like, do I have a brain tumor? And that's why I couldn't wake up to, like, go pee.
Grace
That tumor on your spine that you've been telling every Uber driver about.
Hannah
Bring up my tumor.
Grace
Is that why when I asked you if Daphne's okay, you were like, daphne is fine, mama.
Hannah
I'm the one that's, like, having. I'm the one that keeps going to the bathroom in the bed this week. Like, I'm the one that can't figure it out.
Grace
Wait, so how's your uti? Did you go to urgent care?
Hannah
I had extra pills, so I just, like, took those. And, like, hopefully it goes away. But that's what I always. This is like, okay, this is like, you should not do what I do. Then this is my problem. Then I don't like finishing the prescription because I'm like, my symptoms went away. Like, I'm good. I took four pills, and then it comes back like, a month later. That's like my own thing.
Grace
Oh, okay.
Hannah
But I always have extra pills.
Grace
Are you peeing after sex?
Hannah
Well, that's the thing.
Grace
You have one job.
Hannah
Because here's the thing. Well, okay, but you know what? It's a little bit more complicated than the girls. Like, talk about what happens when you pee before sex and then you have sex and you're like, I gotta pee. But I'm like, I got no liquids in me. So you pee, like, a little bit of a trickle. Is that doing the job? I don't know. So I was, like, trickling all weekend, and then bam.
Grace
It's true. You don't have sex having a pee, and you can't half pee before.
Hannah
No, I can't have sex when I have to pee.
Grace
Poop. Fine, Pee. No.
Farnoosh Tarabi
Wait.
Hannah
Okay, wait. I made Craig so uncomfortable the other day. I literally couldn't wait to tell you about this conversation. This is such a TMI conversation, but such a combo with, like, girlfriends, I feel like, so. Remember the one time when you farted when British Dave went down on you? I think about it all the time. I think about it all the time. Because like, everyone feels that, like, at some point you're like, oh, my God, if I farted right now, it would be, like, the worst possible time ever.
Grace
I feel like I never have to fart until the worst possible times. Like, the second I'm in doggy, I'm like, I have to far.
Hannah
Like, it's, like, so embarrassing. So, like, brought it up to Craig. I was like, do you ever feel like you have, like, half to fart when you, like, are about to have sex? And he was just like, I don't think I've ever felt that ever in my life. And I was now, like, when it happens, like, after we have sex, I have to tell him. I'm like, there was a moment where.
Grace
I felt like, are you at that point in your relationship that, no, you'll never get there where, like, you'll fart to be cute and funny?
Hannah
Never. I'll never get there.
Grace
See, like, every now and then, comedically, timing wise, I'll throw it in. But I have farted because I wanted the guy to break up with me.
Hannah
Okay, I'm gonna say something controversial. Farting, I would say, is universally funny. Like, everyone can laugh at, like, an untimely fart noise. It's never been on, like, the top of my comedy list. I can appreciate it because I can get it. But I've never, like, been in a situation where I'm like, a great timed fart right now would really bring the.
Grace
Joke full circle, you know? Like, you don't want to really bring this home. Do you know what this conversation needs?
Hannah
But I get like, I actually.
Grace
I hate farting in front. I actually would prefer farting in front of my husband than my friends. Like, I. I would. I really don't want to fart in front of my friends. If it smells, I feel so bad. Like, I'm like, you can unfriend me. Like, that was horribly fucked up of me. That's like, I don't.
Hannah
Okay. But I don't think I'm in that category because I feel like if you're around me and you have to fart, like, you have no problem letting it out. You're like, my stomach hurts.
Grace
Yes.
Hannah
You're like, a little. You try and keep it a little bit quiet, but, like, yeah, you're not, like, farting loud, but, like, Nana's gonna hate this episode.
Grace
My thing is, my rule with farting with men is if they fart, you then have, like, about 20 seconds where you can respond with a fart and it doesn't count.
Hannah
Okay. I don't subscribe to that.
Grace
That's feminism.
Hannah
But you.
Grace
That's equal opportunity.
Hannah
Yeah. So, like.
Grace
Like, if he farts and he thinks it's so funny, I like to. If I have one that I've been holding, let it out. So then if he gets upset, I go. And that is called sexism, and that is double standards.
Hannah
We're just making men pull over from the road because they can't drive and then farting on them. So we truly are a feminist podcast. We're like, you know what? You've lost the privilege.
Grace
Speaking of dating drama, I want your opinion because the Internet is divided about Kayla, the girl who dated Travis Kelce.
Hannah
Okay.
Grace
She went on Angel Reese's pod.
Hannah
Yes. Yes.
Grace
And Angel Reese said, tell me the craziest thing you've ever done. And Kayla responded and said, a guy broke up with me, or he. He left me for someone who was famous. So for Halloween, I dropped dressed up as that famous person. So then immediately everyone's like, okay, we did one Google. It's Tiana Taylor.
Hannah
Yep.
Grace
And then Tana Taylor posted some, like, long rant about it.
Hannah
You saw that?
Grace
So this is my question to you. There's a couple sides of it. One, are people. Is it like, I don't get why that's crazy. Like, I don't get the point. Like, who won out of that? You dressing up as her. Like, is it giving fan behavior? Like, what, are you stalking her? Like, I don't know what that was. Are you trying to have a threesome with that? I don't know. Two, is it accurate? Because she's giving a crazy story, and it's like, it is kind of a funny, crazy story. She's given the tea. She's. She showed up to the pod. Yeah.
Hannah
I've been waiting for this question.
Grace
Yes. Like, let me be. Not relatable, but entertaining.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
Or three, Tayana jumping into it. It's like, what's going. Who's. Who is driving the Uber right now? Who is in charge of the truck?
Hannah
What did he. What did T. Ayana say? Was it. Wasn't it the guy. Is it the guy that she has children with? Like, did she end up going on to have.
Grace
Yes, but she's not with him anymore. Iman Shumpert from the Knicks.
Hannah
Okay. If she had gone on to date him and then, like, they broke up, I would expect a certain type of response. Her then going on and, like, having children with this man and like, now being broken up with him. First of all, I think she should have Stayed silent through the whole thing. I don't think she needs to do a response at all.
Grace
For sure.
Hannah
What is the girl's name that went on Angel Reese's podcast?
Grace
Kayla.
Hannah
Okay, as a listener, I think that's fucking hilarious.
Grace
Like, that's great. And I'm laughing. I'm not thinking about it.
Hannah
Would I ever do that? Absolutely not. But the fact that she did that, I think that's hilarious. And also, if I'm Tiana while they're dating, I'm being like, she's obsessed with me. But also like, it. That is funny. Like, I. I'm trying to think, you.
Grace
Know, I think it was. Cause, you know, look, I guess she was not in her right mind. Cause she was upset and she wanted to let him know. That sounds like.
Hannah
Also, I'm a girl. Okay. I've been surrounded by girls. That is not the craziest thing I've ever fucking heard. Is it unique? Have I never heard that response before? Absolutely. But is it that crazy?
Grace
I would argue it's a craz compliment.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
I would be like, that's what I wasn't understanding. I don't think it was crazy. I was like, it's giving you telling him you have good taste and I like your outfits. And I'm a dress up as her.
Hannah
It's like, I'm a fan. I'm going to stay a fan. Have fun with him, sis. Like, I don't.
Grace
That's what I was getting. That's why, like, when Tiana was mad, I was like, I think we're all getting mad at the wrong people. I think she that was likes you.
Hannah
She should have. I feel like she should have just said nothing.
Grace
I'm trying to think if a guy was in a situationship, left her, starts dating me, and then she dresses up as a girl who doesn't brush her hair and wears jorts. I'd be like, that's just funny. That's funny. So anyway, I didn't know how to feel from the situation because there were so many moving pieces, but let people tell stories on podcasts.
Hannah
No. People were getting so mad. See, that's why people get so censored then, because it's like, okay, sorry. I was like, being myself and you hate it. And it's also like, if I'm not myself, you hate it. So it's. Who cares? She didn't. Like, no one got hurt in her dressing up. No one got their feelings.
Grace
No one, at the end of the day, did. Did anyone get hurt? Arguably. I think the problem Was she was trying to hurt someone, but everyone was like, that outfit looks great. You clearly like Tiana. And I don't know if he noticed the photo.
Hannah
No, I think it's fucking hilarious. Also, like, I'm for girls being crazy. He wronged you. You want to do something crazy where no one gets hurt, have at it. No one gets hurt or arrested. Pop off.
Grace
I'm gonna say something about nagging, okay? I saw a tick tock about this. In between all my Menendez algorithms, someone basically was like, you're lucky if your girl's nagging you because it means she still cares. The second she stops nagging you means you're fucking done. And she's not nagging you, by the way. They're warnings if she starts nagging you. Like, I remember once I told this guy I was dating early on, I said, look, you don't have a job right now. That's fine. We all lose our job. But in six months, if you still don't have a job, I'm not going way here.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
And he looked at me, he thought I was kidding. Three months. And I said, how's the resume going? You could say I'm naggy. I'm just warning you because I ask you thrice. If I ask you thrice, you're not gonna hear from me again. And he thrice.
Hannah
Hannah, I love it. I love it. Don't make me ask thrice.
Grace
Don't make me ask twice. Because I don't think you should. You want to be in a relationship where you have to nag a guy, but any to the three guys listening who are straight, if your girl starts to nag you, you best listen up.
Hannah
Look, here's the other thing. If you are in a heterosexual relationship and you are the woman.
Grace
We're sorry.
Hannah
It's just science that when you start dating the person you, you make, you have to make them a little bit better because you're already so much better than them. So, like, it would actually be mean if you didn't make them a little better right from the jump.
Grace
I do have to say, the second I stop caring, it's so sad. It's so sad if you Craig wearing.
Hannah
Flip flops with jeans in the future. I've stopped caring. And you should check on that man.
Grace
Well, I think he listened to you.
Hannah
Yeah, 100%.
Grace
So he was that you push him to be better.
Hannah
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Hannah
I spent the entire day on Sunday at Central Park.
Grace
Oh, you're not doing well. No, I breathe.
Hannah
No reinforcements. Need to wait.
Grace
Like, you were like, I need some wait. Were you with Craig?
Hannah
I was like, I. Well, earlier in the week, I was like, Sunday. I really want to go to Central park, like, and, like, walk around and do, like, a good walk and, like, maybe go to lunch. And he was like, oh, my God. I've literally waited for three years for you to ask me to do anything. Like a cute like that. And my brother was in town, and so me and Craig walked to the park. We did, like, a big, long walk. I got a hot dog. I got a stomachache. Obviously, immediately after, I got a stomach.
Grace
Ache and a hot dog. Two for one.
Hannah
I was like, I have to run home. It was so nice. Like, I really.
Grace
For.
Hannah
I've lived in New York for 10 years. I think I've. This is disgusting. I think I've been to Central park five times.
Grace
Well, now you live close to it. I mean, not to be all, like, New York City kid, but I went to school in the Upper west side, and after school, we'd go to Columbus Circle and we'd hang out and just like, hang out at the park and, like, talk. Yeah, like picnic at the park.
Hannah
No. I felt so productive. It's really. I will say it was, like, really nice day. So it was, like, a little bit crowded, but I felt so healthy and I needed to connect with earth. I wore ballet flats so that I could, like, feel the ground.
Grace
Okay. People were freaking out over you showing up to the Nationals baseball stadium for a batting and throwing clinic in Kitten heels. When you were distinctly told, whatever you do, whatever you do, please wear sneakers. And in my head I go, okay, she wore sneakers on the plane. She has sneakers.
Hannah
It didn't say wear sneakers. It's a don't wear any heels that could puncture the ground. I was wearing ballet flats. Okay. I was wearing a little slingback ballet flat. They were perfect for the occasion. And I really needed to make that Victoria Beckham crop trench work. And it only worked with a ballet flat.
Grace
Yes.
Hannah
I thought I had the perfect outfit for that.
Grace
You did. The people loved it. Grace posted it on our grid. I've never been so entertained by the Giggler's comments people. It was so funny. But it reminded me when people were like. When you realize you've never seen your best friend full out run.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
Which is funny because I feel like when you're younger, all you do is run around with your friends.
Hannah
All you're doing drunk.
Grace
I run also. Yeah. It's just we're running even in high school.
Hannah
And then when you're adults, even in high school, you're running because you're like, oh, I have gym with her. Like, yeah, we're running.
Grace
Yeah, you're running.
Hannah
But like, once you're like, in call, maybe even a little in college because, like, you get drunk and you, like, run around and do things. But like, post college, you're not seeing. You're not seeing your friends run.
Grace
No, that means you're getting robbed if you're running. But my favorite part was the whole time I was trying to explain to them that you're a prodigy. You just, like, refuse to correct. Lean in to your sport skills. And she'll like, she. She just has very natural good hand eye coordination. Anyway, she'll hit like three balls and then she's like, I'm done. They couldn't get me off the batting range. They were like, you have a show tonight. And I was like, I was. I was loving it. I was in my element. Ball is life.
Hannah
At one point you said to the guy you were batting and there was maybe like 30 baseballs in the box that he was pulling out. You had already done like five to seven. And you go, no problem. I'll finish the box. And I was like, oh, what? I was like, that's insane. You're like, I'll finish the balls in the in there. I was like, okay.
Grace
There are these hilarious videos going around also on my TikTok algorithm. Can you tell this is what I did all weekend? Yeah, but it was. It's this Guy making fun of parents who are taking it too seriously. And they're like, throw the fucking ball, Jerome.
Hannah
No.
Grace
And I'm. One thing I'm gonna say is that Lana. Giggling squad. I'm not gonna be that parent. And it was making me laugh so hard. And Des is like, I think you're laughing hard because that's gonna be you. I am not going to. I'm going to be overly nice.
Hannah
Okay, okay, you know what? They're going to walk off.
Grace
And I said, did you have fun? Did you have fun making mom disappointed.
Hannah
Because you were such a good athlete and you played for so many years? I actually do feel like you will be that kind of parent where you'll be like, as long as you had fun and you didn't get hurt, like, because you know what it's like to be an athlete where I feel like I'm different because I've never done sports like that. But, like, I am very competitive, so I.
Grace
So you won't have empathy for them.
Hannah
I fear that I'm gonna be the one on the sideline. Like, move your feet. Move your feet.
Grace
Yeah. Be like, you have one job. It's to pee after sex and to make contact with the ball. No. People. Girls need to learn that at a young age. So anyway, we had fun playing sports. We had fun in the road. D.C. was amazing.
Hannah
We had so much fun on the road. I loved our outfits this leg of the tour. I was very, very into them. I felt very, like, stately.
Grace
You're very what?
Hannah
Like stately in my outfits?
Grace
Yes. We're obsessed with, like, matching what the stereotype of the state is in our head.
Hannah
Yeah. I was like, obviously I have to wear a collar. This is a. This is a fancy place.
Grace
One other thing about dating. So everyone was sending me the sex lives of college girls. Have you watched that?
Hannah
I have.
Grace
Do you watch that? So the new season came out.
Hannah
Oh, it did.
Grace
Or the new trailer? The new trailers out and it's. And everyone's sending it to me. I'm like, why are they sending me this? The whole trailer is about the girl saying she fucked the mascot.
Hannah
Hannah. Did Mindy Kaling listen to Giggly Squad and just like, is.
Grace
Is Mindy a giggler or is everyone fucking mascots now? Because it wasn't cool back in the day.
Hannah
It certainly wasn't. It certainly wasn't. Okay. But meeting the nationals mascot, I, like, got the vibe that you were talking about. Especially in college. It is, like, low key, like a famous person.
Grace
So I have to. Well, first. Yeah. No, they're literally famous. People go more nuts over Bucky than, like, the quarterback. It's fucking Bucky. Also, I did some research, and I'm pretty sure both of the mascots were girls.
Hannah
Okay. I like thinking about that because I felt like inside their suits, they were.
Grace
Like, short and their energy was, like, a little too good.
Hannah
Yeah. Like, they were too nice. Yes.
Grace
Yeah, yeah.
Hannah
Like, these are girls.
Grace
Yeah. So anyway, sex lives of college girls. If you knew that I have a lot of experience in this, I would have loved to help write or tag up the scene.
Hannah
They really. They should have called the professional who knew what she was talking about. It's kind of like, limited to in sex life of college girls. It's like, hello, we've done this before. Hello, we're here.
Grace
We can hear you.
Hannah
We're here to help.
Grace
Question from the Gigglers. Are we wearing barrel jeans? Barrel leg jeans.
Hannah
Okay. That's an amazing question. Thank you for bringing it to the forefront. I was definitely a little, like, when they first came out, I was like, this is a trend. I don't think you need to, like, spend money on them. I don't think you're going to be wearing them. Like, they're not going to be like your go to jeans. But I actually don't hate them.
Grace
With a ballet flat, what's the benefit of the shape of a barrel jean, besides the fact that it's a barrel jean? Like, does it make your legs look longer?
Hannah
Like, what's going on? It definitely doesn't make it look longer. It definitely. If you're short and you have short legs, it's only gonna. I feel, like, emphasize that it's gonna.
Grace
Yeah. So besides kind of feeling like an Oompa Loompa, what is the benefit of a barrel?
Hannah
I don't think that there are any.
Grace
Are booties back booties? Like booty boots? Like, boots that go up to your ankle?
Hannah
Okay.
Grace
I don't think they are.
Hannah
No. Not with anything that, like, you can see them. Like, I have a couple booties, but, like, I wear them with jeans and you're not seeing that they're booties.
Grace
Yes.
Hannah
So. But like, with, like, a mini skirt or a dress. No, no, no, no, no.
Grace
What about if you're wearing a Capri.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
And you want people to see the captain. Your ankle.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
Because that's point of compris. But you don't want to wear a ballet flat.
Hannah
You have to wear.
Grace
What do you wear?
Hannah
You have to wear, like, a pump. You have to wear, like, a heel.
Grace
Oh, God. I'm stressed out.
Hannah
Or like a. I guess like a. No, you have to wear like a flat or you have to wear a heel. You're not wearing like a booty with a capri. That's.
Grace
Can you wear a dad sneaker with a capri?
Hannah
Yeah, you can wear a sneaker with like a flared capri, like jean. But that's again, that's also. If you're short and you have short legs, that's. That is also only going to emphasize that.
Grace
Okay, just come for me. I feel like flared jeans.
Hannah
You're tall though. You're tall.
Grace
So like you, my entire body is my torso.
Hannah
That's why you need to wear like a higher. I know you love low rise because you're Gen Z, but your body type actually, if you want to go buy it, if you wore like a higher waist pant, it wouldn't feel as disproportionate as you feel it is.
Grace
I'm kind of loving these like good American high waisted flare jeans. Are flare jeans back?
Hannah
Yeah, you can wear a flare? Yeah, for sure. A bootcamp.
Grace
I think I'm gonna wear one tonight.
Hannah
Okay. Whoa. That was a good. I loved that little rapid fire.
Grace
No. Well, look, we need to know what's going on with fashion and you keep us honest.
Hannah
You know, I really try and it's.
Grace
Quick and easy and I'm just asking the questions we all need to know.
Hannah
I actually just got my first pair of barrel jeans. I haven't even tried them on yet.
Grace
We're doing today's show. Somehow we got invited back. What are you gonna wear?
Hannah
I'm gonna wear this little like butter yellow blazer dress. I think even though like, I could wear something a little more folly, but like, I haven't worn it and I like it and I think I'll do an ivory boot with it.
Grace
Okay. Fun. I don't know if I'm obsessed with what I have, but we'll see.
Hannah
You know what I realized recently? I need to like fall back in love with like putting outfits together. Because I feel like for like the past two years of my life I've been having to get outfits because, like, I need an outfit to like do things where like a couple years ago the fun of getting an outfit was because like, oh my God, I'm going to this like, new club Saturday night and like out to dinner. I need a new, like, I need to pick out a fun outfit and I need to get back to like, it's become work and like, I need to get back to Like, I love picking out outfits. The love of the game and being on tour, I was, like, picking out outfits for this past weekend, and I was like, I miss this shit. You know?
Grace
But, like, also, this is. You loved it for a reason. It's cause you're good at it. And then it's been spiraling. I also think over the last two years, like, you have so many eyes on you.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
So you not only it's work, but you're also getting judged for the work. And then you actually forget the whole reason you like it, which is to be creative and put your taste on things.
Hannah
No, for, like, the past, I would say, like, four to five months. I think I've been depressed and anxious for a while, but anywho, for the past four to five months, I've been like, oh, I don't know what's in style. I don't know how to put an outfit together. Like, I like. Did I lose my.
Grace
Someone needs to guide the gigglers.
Hannah
Yeah. I like, I had a moment where I was like, have I lost my touch? Do I not like.
Paige
No.
Hannah
And it's like, Like, No. I've just. I haven't been appreciating it. Yeah. The way I, like, appreciated it. And I love clothes.
Grace
Oh, my God. You. You guys.
Hannah
I can feel my personality coming back.
Grace
Paige is feeling better. Okay. Because we all were worried.
Hannah
No, we're worried. My beta blockers are. Have been helping me thrive on tour. I can't say enough good things, but.
Grace
I do have to say, obviously, we do not want the gigglers snorting beta blockers every day. What else do you think has helped you?
Hannah
That was an attack. That was so.
Grace
No, you said you went walking.
Hannah
That was. Oh, my God. I just felt like you were my therapist. Like, okay, Paige, but what other coping mechanisms that are healthy have you done?
Grace
I don't love promoting drug addiction.
Hannah
No, I've been trying to. Like, here's the thing. I think that's really hard.
Grace
You go, I have so much beta blocker in me right now, I could bash my head through a wall. Here's the thing.
Hannah
I think that's another added to the list on how hard it is to be a woman. You go through phases where you're like, I'm so healthy. And you're in a routine and you are working out. You're like, I worked out two times this week. That's good. I worked out three times this week, sometimes four. Like, you can get into all these random routines. It's when you go cold turkey and you do nothing. And then now I feel like I'm at the age where it's not even about, like, yeah, obviously I want to look hot. Like, I always want to fucking look good and feel good in my clothes. But now I'm like, if I don't move, my brain is going right down in the dumps. So that's like a weird mind fuck. But it has made it, I think, a little bit easier for every single day for me to be like, okay, if I at least, like, stretch my fucking body today and, like, walk to my errands rather than, like, take an Uber. That's better than nothing. So I have been trying to, like, go outside, walk in the sunlight for, like, at least, even if it's like, 10 minutes to, like, whatever. So that's.
Grace
People also will be like, you're working so hard. Like, take a break. And first of all, I work so hard because when I'm working, I'm actually my happiest. It's when I'm not working that the demons will start trying to speak to me. And I'm like, text me.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
And then. But then they tell you, okay, you have to take a break. You've been working so hard, which is so valid. But it's when everything stops that, like.
Hannah
I'm like, what am I doing with my life?
Grace
You want to relax.
Hannah
Yeah.
Grace
But then you're fighting the, like, should I be relaxing? Should I not be relaxing? Anyway, it's really hard to exist on this planet.
Hannah
And, like, let's. I mean, I don't even know how people do it, like, because we don't even have children yet. But, like, what is the fucking guilt? When you sit on the couch and you're like, okay, I'm going to relax. And then you're like, in your head, you're like, but if I wasn't relaxing, I could be getting done, like, this, this, and this. That's not even on my to do list. But, like, it would alleviate other things. Like, I could be doing extra stuff like that. Guilt is debilitating as well.
Grace
It's funny you brought up kids, because I think what we're talking about is also the reason people do have kids. Because it was Sunday, I went to yoga. I felt amazing. I was, like, feeling myself. I was like, call my mom. I'm like, I'm the epitome of health and wellness. And then, like, I settle down. And then, like, four hours into the day, I'm like. Like, I'm spiraling. I'm spiraling, I'm spiraling. And then I realized, like, when you're of our age, sometimes it's like, I am. I can have a kid because I can worry about something else besides the repetitive, boring thoughts in my own brain about myself.
Hannah
Hannah, no one's more sick of me than me.
Grace
Than me.
Hannah
Like, I am dumb.
Grace
And not to go full circle. Not to go full circle. But that's why Kim. What she noticed about us is so nice. Because it's like, I don't want to fucking be with someone all the time who's just like me. In certain ways, yes, because it makes us compatible. But I want someone who brings different thoughts and silliness to the table.
Hannah
Right. Right.
Grace
So, long story short, I think that's why people have kids and people have friends. And people say having community is the most important thing. This is our mental health. Like, explosion at the end of the pod. But the problem with community is community also causes drama in your life sometimes. And relationships can cause the most pain. So then it's like, okay, it's this. A multi level marketing scheme. Why? And going outside cures your depression, but what happened outside is what caused the depression. What the fuck are we supposed to do?
Hannah
It's a spiral. That's why you have to get a cat. They're not involved in the outside world.
Grace
Nope. And that's.
Hannah
And it's still community.
Grace
They're your only safety. Your best friend. No. You texted me the cutest photo this morning of Daphne. Daphne. And like, you can't. You have your heart. You have your purpose. You have to love your life.
Hannah
I love you.
Grace
And she feels connected to you because you both pee in the bed.
Hannah
No, truly, we're sisters. We're soul sister.
Grace
You're asking.
Hannah
I'm like, I. Dabney. I get it. I. I must just be so anxious.
Grace
Well, I hope you don't pee again tonight.
Hannah
I don't think I will because I.
Grace
Don'T want it to be a thing. Even though that would be so funny if that became a thing. And then you have to go to, like, a sleep shop.
Hannah
They have to, like, watch me sleep.
Grace
You have to sleep on, like, an Italian grandma's couch that has plastic on.
Hannah
It to do, like, sleep studies. I'm dying to do any type of sleep study.
Grace
That's our next vlog. Just us sleeping.
Hannah
Hannah, please. We have to.
Grace
The way I. I would be so ready for a sleep study. I'd be like, this is where I perform my greatest beyond.
Hannah
I just want them to tell me, like, certain things that they've noticed.
Grace
Yeah. Yeah. Anywho, anyway, I feel like we started the pod very positive and then we. We did spiral at the end. Enjoy your week trying to exist. No. I hope if you're having a down time, you feel less alone and keep grinding. Keep hustling in these streets.
Hannah
Yep. Keep giggling and we'll see you next week.
Grace
And if you're in Minneapolis, Madison or Milwaukee, we're coming your way. Tickets are almost sold out. Grab them. We added a couple shows and we love you. Thanks for giggling. Bye.
Podcast Summary: Giggly Squad – "Giggling about Nagging, Nightmares, and Barrel Jeans"
Episode Overview
In the October 15, 2024 release of Giggly Squad, hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo delve into a blend of personal anecdotes, pop culture commentary, fashion insights, and candid discussions on mental health and relationships. This episode, titled "Giggling about Nagging, Nightmares, and Barrel Jeans," offers listeners a deep dive into the hosts' latest tour experiences, sleep-related nightmares, dating dramas, and evolving fashion tastes. Amidst laughter and heartfelt moments, Hannah and Paige showcase their ability to intertwine humor with meaningful conversations.
1. Memorable Tour Experiences and Unexpected Car Troubles
The episode kicks off with Hannah recounting a harrowing experience from their tour:
Hannah [04:29]: "We almost went full force into a cement wall."
During their drive from Washington, D.C. to Atlantic City, the duo, along with Hannah's mother and their CEO Grace, encountered a troubling situation when their driver exhibited erratic behavior. Hannah narrates how she had to confront the driver to ensure their safety:
Hannah [11:01]: "Sir, are you okay to drive? Do you want to pull over for a little?"
Grace commends Hannah for her bravery in handling the situation:
Grace [11:13]: "He didn't need to know where we were going or what was going on."
The tension-filled journey culminated at a Wawa station, where an Uber driver, described as an "angel," safely transported them to the Hard Rock Casino. This incident not only highlighted the unpredictability of life on tour but also underscored the importance of taking decisive action in critical moments.
2. Navigating Mental Health and Coping Mechanisms
Hannah opens up about her struggles with depression and anxiety over the past few months, linking them to her current lifestyle and the pressures of touring:
Hannah [62:49]: "I've been like, what am I doing with my life?"
Grace shares her own battles, emphasizing the challenges of maintaining mental health amidst constant work:
Grace [65:34]: "When I'm not working, the demons will start trying to speak to me."
The conversation delves into the societal expectations placed on women to constantly be productive and maintain various roles, highlighting the debilitating effects of guilt and pressure. Hannah discusses her reliance on beta blockers to manage anxiety, while Grace emphasizes the importance of community and relationships in combating mental health challenges.
3. Fashion Frenzy: Barrel Jeans and Style Evolution
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to fashion discussions, particularly focusing on the resurgence of barrel jeans:
Grace [58:10]: "What's the benefit of a barrel?"
Hannah expresses her skepticism about the trend:
Hannah [58:22]: "I don't think there are any benefits."
Despite initial reservations, Hannah admits to not hating barrel jeans, while Grace advocates for their comeback, especially for taller individuals:
Grace [60:41]: "Like, if you're short and you have short legs, it's only gonna emphasize that."
The hosts engage in a lively debate about pairing barrel jeans with different footwear, such as ballet flats and sneakers, weighing the aesthetic and practical aspects. Hannah also touches upon her personal journey in rediscovering her passion for assembling outfits, revealing a period of creative stagnation influenced by her mental health struggles.
4. TikTok Troubles and Algorithm Aggravations
Both hosts share their frustrations with the TikTok algorithm's repetitive content:
Grace [21:04]: "The Gracie Abrams song... I don't like sad songs being stuck in my head."
Hannah concurs, mentioning her increasing awareness of overscrolling:
Hannah [22:08]: "I find myself scrolling out of the TikTok app a lot more than I usually do."
The conversation shifts to the recent buzz around the Menendez brothers, with Grace recommending a documentary:
Grace [22:20]: "She was saying in the jury, all the men said the guys were guilty... because Lyle was getting sexually abused by the mom."
This segment underscores the hosts' interest in true crime and its portrayal in media, while also touching upon the broader implications of such narratives on societal perceptions of abuse and justice.
5. Dating Drama: The Kayla and Travis Kelce Saga
Hannah and Grace dissect the controversial actions of Kayla, a former partner of Travis Kelce, who made headlines by dressing up as a famous person after their breakup. Grace poses critical questions about Kayla's motives and the public's reaction:
Grace [41:03]: "Is it giving fan behavior? Like, what, are you stalking her?"
Hannah finds the act amusing and appreciates Kayla's creative expression:
Hannah [43:01]: "As a listener, I think that's fucking hilarious."
The discussion evolves into a broader commentary on societal judgments and the fine line between fan admiration and obsession, with both hosts advocating for personal expression without fear of backlash.
6. Lighthearted Moments: Farting and Sleep Mishaps
Injecting humor into the episode, the hosts share personal anecdotes about embarrassing moments and bodily functions. Hannah recounts an awkward conversation with her partner Craig about farting before sex:
Hannah [38:17]: "Do you ever feel like you have to fart when you're about to have sex?"
Grace adds her own comedic take, emphasizing the universality and humor in such situations:
Grace [40:03]: "If he farts, you have about 20 seconds where you can respond with a fart and it doesn't count."
These segments showcase the hosts' ability to blend candid conversations with relatable humor, fostering a sense of camaraderie with their audience.
7. Personal Health Stories: UTIs and Sleep Disorders
Hannah shares a personal and vulnerable story about waking up to find she had a urinary tract infection (UTI) and accidentally wet the bed:
Hannah [33:24]: "I ran home. It was so nice."
Grace offers support and understanding, reflecting on the stigma and challenges surrounding such health issues:
Grace [35:43]: "I think we could use this. Also, in your early 20s, when you're with a dude and he's making you uncomfortable..."
This heartfelt exchange highlights the importance of discussing and destigmatizing personal health struggles, providing listeners with empathy and solidarity.
8. Community and Relationships: Balancing Personal Space and Connection
Towards the end of the episode, Hannah and Grace explore the complexities of maintaining relationships and personal space. Grace muses on the necessity of having a community to combat loneliness and mental health challenges:
Grace [67:14]: "Sometimes it's like, I can have a kid because I can worry about something else besides the repetitive, boring thoughts in my own brain about myself."
Hannah echoes these sentiments, emphasizing the role of friends and relationships in fostering a sense of belonging and purpose:
Hannah [67:38]: "I can feel my personality coming back."
The discussion culminates in the realization that while community offers support, it can also bring its own set of dramas and challenges, creating a delicate balance between connection and personal well-being.
Conclusion
In "Giggling about Nagging, Nightmares, and Barrel Jeans," Giggly Squad delivers a multifaceted episode that oscillates between humor and heartfelt discussions. Hannah and Paige, alongside their contributor Grace, effectively navigate through personal stories, fashion debates, mental health conversations, and pop culture critiques. By interweaving candid moments with comedic relief, the hosts provide an engaging and relatable listening experience, inviting audiences to laugh, reflect, and connect.
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Giggly Squad continues to offer an authentic and entertaining blend of humor, personal insight, and cultural commentary, making it a must-listen for fans seeking both laughter and meaningful conversation.