Giggling about nicknames, quadzilla, and the zeitgeist

Summary

Giggly Squad Episode Summary: "Giggling about Nicknames, Quadzilla, and the Zeitgeist"

Release Date: March 18, 2025

Hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo dive deep into a myriad of topics ranging from pop culture and celebrity behavior to personal anecdotes about relationships and parenting. Throughout the episode, they offer humorous takes on societal norms while sharing personal insights and experiences.

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1. Exploring "Mulholland Drive" and the Concept of Zeitgeist

Timeframe: 04:02 – 07:14

Hannah and Paige kick off the discussion by delving into the enigmatic film "Mulholland Drive," highlighting Naomi Watts' breakthrough role.

• Hannah praises the film's intricate plot, stating, "This movie is such an amazing trick that you will watch the whole movie and it finishes and you're still like, that might have been the worst movie I ever watched. And then you Google it and you go, I was completely tricked. That was the best movie I've ever watched." (06:17)

• They grapple with the term "Zeitgeist," aiming to define it humorously as something deeply relevant to current times.

• Paige muses, "I can't get comfortable. I'm, like, squirming like little." (05:02), emphasizing the film's challenging narrative structure.

2. Celebrity Privacy and Fan Interactions

Timeframe: 08:06 – 11:23

The conversation shifts to celebrities' interactions with fans, using Scarlett Johansson as a focal point.

• Paige discusses Johansson's stance on not taking photos with fans, noting the bizarre reasoning behind it: "She says to take pictures with fans because she doesn't want to be identified in this time or place with person." (09:03)

• Chris humorously contemplates the logistics of celebrities maintaining privacy, questioning the practicality of avoiding fan interactions: "But that's so funny. But part of me is like, okay, spy. Like, who are you from?" (09:15)

3. The Complexities of Modern Parenting in the Influencer Age

Timeframe: 12:33 – 36:47

Hannah and Paige examine the impact of social media and influencer culture on parenting, referencing documentaries and personal experiences.

• Chris relates a documentary about influencer parenting, highlighting the negative effects on children: "Their whole thing was she didn't even, like, care about money. She wanted to be America's mom. She loved the fame." (12:33)

• Paige expresses concern for the emotional toll on children raised in such environments, stating, "Imagine one day your mom just, like, isn't who she's been her whole life. And you're just like, wait, what?" (35:37)

• They touch upon child labor laws and the ethical considerations of children in influencer roles, emphasizing the importance of genuine childhood experiences over commercial exploitation.

4. Personal Anecdotes: Relationships, Health, and Body Image

Timeframe: 53:45 – 73:35

The hosts share personal stories about relationships, health struggles, and body image issues, infusing humor and relatability.

• Chris recounts pulling his back during a Pilates class, humorously detailing his interaction with his workout partner: "I woke up in the morning, and not only am I fighting my own demons, but I have sweet, sweet Grace, who looks forward to this with me." (56:22)

• Paige discusses her skincare routine and the challenges of maintaining healthy skin, joking about unconventional methods: "I use my Roundup and I give it a little spritz." (70:37)

• They delve into body image, with Chris reminiscing about his high school nickname "Quadzilla," highlighting societal pressures and personal insecurities: "My quads were so strong, the muscles were, like, bulging over my kneecaps." (59:18)

5. Navigating Modern Relationships and Expectations

Timeframe: 44:02 – 49:46

Hannah and Paige explore the dynamics of contemporary relationships, emphasizing mutual growth and support.

• Paige articulates her desire for a partner who is involved and supportive, stating, "I want a man who is capable of being a present father." (13:22)

• They discuss the importance of individual growth within relationships, with Chris reflecting on the balance between supporting a partner and maintaining personal well-being: "When you're in a relationship, you have to feel like that person enables your star factor." (75:52)

• Paige emphasizes the value of genuine connections over superficial gestures, advocating for authenticity in partnerships.

6. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Projects

Timeframe: 73:36 – 77:02

Wrapping up the episode, Hannah and Paige preview their upcoming book and future plans, maintaining their characteristic humor.

• Chris announces their book release, urging listeners to pre-order: "This book is our passion, our life's work. I highly recommend go and order our thesis, our thesis statement of life." (75:32)

• They briefly mention upcoming shows and personal projects, highlighting their commitment to expanding their reach and engaging with their audience.

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Notable Quotes

• Hannah: "This movie is such an amazing trick that you will watch the whole movie and it finishes and you're still like, that might have been the worst movie I ever watched." (06:17)

• Paige: "I want a man who is capable of being a present father. I don't wanna get up." (13:22)

• Chris: "When you're in a relationship, you have to feel like that person enables your star factor." (75:52)

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Conclusion

In this episode of Giggly Squad, Hannah and Paige blend humor with insightful discussions on films, celebrity culture, parenting, and personal growth. Their candid conversations offer listeners both laughs and thoughtful reflections, encapsulating the essence of navigating modern life with a lighthearted twist.

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Timestamps Reference

• 00:00 – 02:23: Advertisements (Skipped)
• 04:02 – 07:14: Mulholland Drive Discussion
• 08:06 – 11:23: Celebrity Privacy
• 12:33 – 36:47: Influencer Parenting
• 44:02 – 49:46: Relationships and Personal Stories
• 53:45 – 73:35: Health and Body Image Anecdotes
• 73:36 – 77:02: Upcoming Projects
• 00:00: Start of Transcript

Note: Advertisements and promotional segments within the transcript have been excluded from this summary to focus on the core content of the episode.

Transcript

[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Chris]

Gary, fix your WI fi manifest that we can't be Manage. I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, my growly gigglers? Look, I'm trying to. I'm trying to get creative here.

[Paige]

Did you blow your hair out today?

[Chris]

I did do a little. Dyson.

[Paige]

Wow. Looks nice.

[Chris]

Thank you. And I am wearing glasses today.

[Paige]

No, you look really pretty today.

[Chris]

They're fake glasses. Oh, my God. Thank you.

[Paige]

Wait, what are these white kitten heel pumps on your vintage Prada? Yeah, no, I spotted them from my porch.

[Chris]

There's so much crap in this room. And Paige somehow saw the tiny kitten heel. Is that a vintage shoe?

[Paige]

I think there's a vintage heel here. What is it?

[Chris]

That is so. It's literally under a pile of garbage. And she's like, cute. Wait, cute?

[Paige]

Cute.

[Chris]

No, we were just.

[Paige]

I miss you so much.

[Chris]

Wait, no. I miss you so much. We've been praying for a weekend free. And then the whole time I just, like, watched TV and missed Paige, you know, literally.

[Paige]

Netflix was like, you've caught us. Like, we're out of shit for you.

[Chris]

I watched everything that's ever been made this weekend. Yeah, I finished it.

[Paige]

Are you ever, like, binging like you're doing a full rot day? Like you've been there for eight hours and you're like, ugh, I have nothing else to watch. Do you ever feel like I can't watch old Stu? Like, if it's not new, I'm like, like, like I'll be hanging out with someone and they'll be like, let's like throw on what's your favorite movie? And I'm like, unless it's new, I'm not watching it.

[Chris]

I do have to say, because I have an older man every now and then, I like to experience his culture. Yeah. And I say, what's a movie that, like, you loved from back in the day that I've never seen? And that's a fun experience for us because also, you know how we just, like, know actresses, but we never know their, like, breakout role from like the 90s or the 2000s. I watched Mulholland Drive last night. Have you ever.

[Paige]

Have you ever has across your desk? I feel like I've heard of it. Yeah. I couldn't give you one factor.

[Chris]

It's in the Zeitgeist. So it's Naomi Watts breakout.

[Paige]

You just wanted to say Zeitgeist because you're wearing glasses.

[Chris]

Yes. What is. Neither of us can spell Zeitgeist.

[Paige]

What is a Zeitgeist?

[Chris]

I feel like it's like something that's really relevant.

[Paige]

Like, okay, what's like, relevant.

[Chris]

Yes, yes. Like Zeitgeist.

[Paige]

I feel like we are the zeitgeist.

[Chris]

We are Zeitgeist. That's our giggling is Zeitgeist. We just start using it appropriately. This movie if. Oh, my God, you should watch it.

[Paige]

I, like, can't get comfortable. I'm, like, squirming like little.

[Chris]

I was dying laughing. Because the last episode, you. Whenever I would talk, you were having a coughing attack. And then you also lost something at one point and you were just. Whenever I would talk, you were looking for it. And at one point I was like, what are you looking for?

[Paige]

That was on zoom.

[Chris]

That was on zoom.

[Paige]

There's, like, nothing to see over here.

[Chris]

So Mulholland Drive, it's got famous for this, like, sex lesbian scene with Naomi Watts and the other actress who I forgot.

[Paige]

Okay, but it's like, hot damn, a rough day to be that other actress.

[Chris]

I'm so sorry.

[Paige]

Imagine it's like your breakout role and you just hear some Gen Z girl go, sorry, I forgot her name.

[Chris]

You know, out of respect, Chris, because I know you're regularly googling the lesbian scene. You're creep. Can you tell he's playing it right now. What's the name of the other actress? Sorry, what was the name of the. Chris, put your boner away. What was the. Can you do your job for a second? What's the name of the actress? Movie name again, One more time. Muholland Drive. No, we can't spell Mulholland. So. I love movies that trick me. Like, I want to be tricked. I love a twist.

[Paige]

We were like, I really wasn't expecting.

[Chris]

This movie is such an amazing trick that you will watch the whole movie and it finishes and you're still like, that might have been the worst movie I ever watched. And then you Google it and you go, I was completely tricked. That was the best movie I've ever watched.

[Paige]

Sorry for.

[Chris]

And I was sober.

[Paige]

Sorry for my long pause. I'm trying to think of. Think of, like, how to even word this. So unless you Google it afterward to find out the actual meaning, you're going to think it's the worst movie ever. Yeah, okay, like.

[Chris]

And some would argue, maybe that's a bad movie if you don't get it. But, like, no one gets it. But then once you realize it's very artistic.

[Paige]

Is the ending kind of like a Sopranos ending where people were pissed?

[Chris]

No, the ending's incredible. But the ending makes you realize, oh, what I was thinking the whole time wasn't true. And now I have to rethink everything I thought about this movie.

[Paige]

But there's how I wake up in the morning, you know, just like, oh, everything I thought was actually a lie. So let me. Let me rework it.

[Chris]

We found out bananas are actually berries on the burner phone pod this week. I think you guys should listen. It was very fun. Yeah. So that's. My world's been crushed. I have to rethink everything. Do we have the name of the actress yet? Yeah, the stars of Naomi Watts and Laura Harring. Laura Harring. Shout out, Laura.

[Hannah]

Laura.

[Chris]

She crushed it. She crushed it.

[Paige]

What did you shout out to my least favorite favorite ex boyfriend? Usually we shout out my favorite one, but my least favorite one. Yeah, he actually, like, in my mid-20s, showed me so many movie, like, classic movies that I had never seen that, like, I do feel better than people when I'm like, oh, my God, you haven't seen that? It's a classic.

[Chris]

See, I've never seen a movie before. Like, I miss, like, everything DEZ says. I'm like, nobody's. Are you fucking kidding me? And then we sit down and.

[Paige]

No, this guy had a. A zeitgeist, if you will.

[Chris]

I love that.

[Paige]

Just like classic movies. He really upped my movie game.

[Chris]

I do have an uncle who's obsessed with James Bond, so I've seen a lot of the James Bond movies, but I wouldn't say that really brings any value to the community.

[Paige]

Wait, speaking of actresses, did you see Scarlett Johansson this past week say why she doesn't take pictures with fans?

[Chris]

Oh, yeah. She was like, I'm not working.

[Paige]

No, she said she gave a very Gwyneth Paltrow answer. I feel like people aren't laughing at it as much as it should be laughed at. When Gwyneth Paltrow said consciously uncoupling, she said that she doesn't take pictures with fans out in the wild. Because. Wait, let me get the exact. Because it's so good.

[Chris]

Since we are accomplished journalists, we're gonna get the quote right.

[Paige]

Okay. She said. She says to take pictures with fans because she doesn't want to be identified in this time or place with person.

[Chris]

But that's so funny. But part of me is like, okay, spy. Like, who are you from?

[Paige]

Part of me is like, what a crazy way to think of it. Like, that's such a, like, alien way to think of. Like, yeah, I don't want to be involved in this time or place with you.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paige]

But also, like, I get what she's saying where she's Like, I want to. I want to be like, I want to, like, live my life and not.

[Chris]

People not know where I am all the time.

[Paige]

Yeah. Not know, like, where I am, what I'm doing, who I'm with. Like, I get that anonymity.

[Chris]

Live their lives where they want everyone to know at all times what they're doing, who they're with.

[Paige]

Yeah. For me, I wouldn't have the balls to say that to anyone, let alone, like, I would assume that her fan base is. Well, actually, she's been in, like, so many.

[Chris]

Well, she's been in, like, Marvel movies.

[Paige]

That, like, she probably does have a lot of men fan base.

[Chris]

The Marvel movies were good for her.

[Paige]

Probably a girl coming up to me. Imagine just being like, I don't want to be identified in this time or place with you.

[Chris]

A girl will come up to me at the airport, take a photo, and I look at her and I say, I'm so sorry for that photo. Yeah. Like, sometimes I really see they're disappointed how bad I look in the photo. They're like, I can't use this photo, Hannah.

[Paige]

Absolutely.

[Chris]

I do have no.

[Paige]

A giggler could come up and be like, I need a kidney. And I'd be like, point to the nearest hospital. Where are we going?

[Chris]

If you think about it, like, you don't see that many selfies with, like, Kardashian celebrities. You don't see. You don't see.

[Paige]

Where are all the selfies?

[Chris]

When was the last time you saw Kim Kardashian do a selfie with someone? I think it's just they're, like, so protected, and maybe if. Maybe on, like, press days, they do, but, like, wherever they travel, they don't have to see anything.

[Paige]

Like, if I walked into a coffee shop in New York City right now and I saw Jennifer Lawrence.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Standing there. The last thing I'm doing is asking her for a selfie.

[Chris]

No.

[Paige]

Because I respect her.

[Chris]

Well, there are just some types of people who don't think like, oh, this is a human person who may. If everyone asked her to get a selfie every time they wanted, that she couldn't live her life. But some people see a celeb and think they're the first person to ever see that celeb.

[Paige]

Right.

[Chris]

And are like, oh, my God.

[Paige]

But also, on the other hand, does it really hurt to just turn your head and be like. And smile?

[Hannah]

No.

[Chris]

You know, it's. I guess some people pick their boundaries differently. I do have to think, like, when you're a certain level of celeb, if you start with one photo, then it becomes a full meet and greet at the coffee shop, you know, because then people are like, oh, you took a photo with them. Why not me? And next, you know, you're like, how do you get out? Kind of thing. And then it got me thinking about celebrity. Sorry, I watch a lot of celebrity documentaries. Niall Horan.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Did you hear when he was on One Direction, that he had a point where he got so big he couldn't go anywhere. But looking back at it, he's like, I also dealt with some paranoia that I thought that I would get swarmed anywhere I went. And he's like, looking back, I might have not been swarmed, but I was so scared of the possibility of getting swarmed that I, like, I started, like, hearing things and like, oh, my God, I couldn't leave my house.

[Paige]

Stop.

[Chris]

And that's what happened to Justin Bieber.

[Paige]

No way.

[Chris]

Well, I just added that at the end. I don't know if that's true, but fame definitely hasn't helped.

[Paige]

No, no.

[Chris]

And go full circle. Mulholland Drive is about Los Angeles and fame. It really is. It really is.

[Paige]

I saw a TikTok and the girl was like. She was quoting something and she was like, the stand. Why has the stand standard for a wife stayed the same, yet the standard for a husband has gone down? And she was like, think about it. Years ago, like, she was like, my grandpa built my grandmother's house. Like, okay, she stayed in it and, like, made the house a home and, like, fed the kids and stuff. But he physically built the fucking house. Now, like any man, he's like, cool, I'll call a task rabbit. But women, we have to also, like, do all the home stuff, but then also do the work stuff.

[Chris]

I would argue I want a man who is capable of being a present father. And by that I mean, like, bring the baby to my nipple. I don't wanna get up. Like someone who's waking up early, someone who's very involved in the parenting.

[Paige]

I almost would rather. I mean, not that I should have to pick, but, like, I want a man who's more involved in the cooking and the cleaning. I do feel like I just want a housekeeper. I just realized I want an assistant.

[Chris]

Some of these girls who have done it right, they marry chefs. The one thing, though, is chefs are a lot of the time crazy people. Cause their job is just being in hot places, yelling at people, snorting cocaine, tattoos. Chefs are crazy. And then sometimes they go home and they're like, I'm not Gonna cook you a meal. It's like me coming home and having to do a stand up set for dez. I'm like, you have to pay money for that. I don't do it for free.

[Paige]

I just want someone who's like, I'll make school lunches.

[Chris]

I do have to say I've dated guys in the past who cooked, and it's been so hot and so fun.

[Paige]

I've never, like, dated a man that.

[Chris]

Like, the energy they put into barbecuing. Put it into everything.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Put it into sandwiches, put it into pasta, put it into steak. Get them, like, really into making steak. You have to trick them to be like, oh, my God, I love that salmon you made.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And then they, like, get passionate about it, and then it gets part of their ego and then they're like, obsessed with it.

[Paige]

That's what it is. Make it a part of their ego.

[Chris]

Yes. Chris is smiling, right? And the second you make it. And I go, oh, my baby.

[Paige]

I love my barbecue chicken.

[Chris]

My ex used to make it.

[Paige]

Disgusting. Disgusting.

[Chris]

And honestly, he had a weak wrist. He couldn't even, like, lift it, you know?

[Paige]

It's so funny. I do that to my brother all the time. My brother is a phenomenal chef.

[Chris]

I love that for him.

[Paige]

And I'll DM him, you know, My brother is too.

[Hannah]

It's kind of crazy.

[Chris]

We don't cook.

[Paige]

I'll send him things and I'll. And I'll. And I think he's catching on, but he's actually not. Like, I'll actively be like, I wish you could make this, but, like, it's probably way too hard for you. And I always think, like, he knows I'm fucking with him, but he doesn't. And he'll be like, oh, so you think I can't make that? Like, are you kidding? You're so stupid. I actually can make it. When are you coming home next? Cause I'll make it and I'll be like, in two weeks. And he will have made it. And I'm like, you stupid fuck. Like, you're so stupid. But I do it every time.

[Chris]

I once, for my brother's birthday, bought him like a steak thing. Like all these steaks.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And he gets really into like, oh, like, how high quality are these steaks? And then I keep buying him things to make steaks with. And they love tchotchkes. If you get them a new knife, you can cut a pork chop with that knife that you can make. Make them feel like hunters, you know?

[Paige]

That's why I'm like, we're so much smarter.

[Chris]

And the joke of men used to go to war is so funny to me. Just to wrap this up, because my final thought is, like, men literally used to go to war. Like, they would, like, get.

[Paige]

Is it even a final thought if you don't adjust your glasses? You know?

[Chris]

Also, this whole time. Am I fine? This whole time, I can't see. Like, I can't. I've been fighting for my life with these fake glasses because I like the aesthetic, but, like, I feel blind. I can't hear. I can't talk. I feel I have nothing left. Men used to go to war. Men used to, like, have their arm blown off and still run and, like, do what they had to do. Nowadays, a man's going down on you and sees your spotting slightly on your period, he's like, I can't do it.

[Paige]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris]

Men used to go to war, and you can't go down to me when I'm on my period.

[Paige]

Grow up. Mm.

[Chris]

Is that is.

[Paige]

And that's a great final thought.

[Chris]

Wait. I'm so scared to ask you this because, like, you're going to break my heart.

[Paige]

Oh, my God. I'm so excited.

[Chris]

You're going to literally rip my heart apart. Oh, my God.

[Paige]

Yeah, do it. Ask.

[Chris]

I told you to watch Detroiters. What did you think?

[Paige]

Okay. I watched a couple episodes of it.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Paige]

Second season's better than first.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Paige]

It's like, stupid humor. So it's not, like, fully where I'm like, you have to watch this show. It's so funny, but there are so many bits in it that I'm like, that's fucking hilarious. And it gives, like, a. You and I. Right?

[Chris]

Right.

[Paige]

Stupid name.

[Chris]

I'm Tim. And you're Sam. I basically was like, this is so weird, but in another universe, this is me and you.

[Paige]

Yes. It's just such a. Like, funny. It's just, like a stupid show.

[Chris]

If you want to watch, like, the goofiest show ever, like, I have.

[Paige]

It's great to fall. I've been falling asleep to it.

[Chris]

I fall asleep to the Meghan Markle show. But to each her.

[Paige]

To each their own side note.

[Chris]

The Meghan Markle show. I started watching who is Jackie Schimmel? Did a whole thing of her watching it in her comments, and she made a comment where she was like, I've never seen someone, like, be with her friends, but act like she just met her friends. Like, the lack of chemistry she has with, like, her uncle in it. And I kind of loved it.

[Paige]

I love that.

[Chris]

I feel like Megan. We forget. She always wanted to be an entertainer, and now she's just like, this is. But it's funny.

[Paige]

She's an actress.

[Chris]

It's very Martha Stewart. Except she doesn't start off with being like, I particularly have a skill for this. She just kind of was like, fuck around and find out.

[Paige]

Yeah. Like, I'm getting my kids ready for school and also making beautiful parfaits.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Paige]

Like, and this is what I do.

[Chris]

Yeah. It seems like while the world is burning, you can have a beehive.

[Paige]

My only gripe with Megan, and it's not really even a gripe. It's. I can't stand when she calls Harry H. Because I just feel like that. Okay. I'm not like, oh, my God. It was not expecting that. I'll be here for the rest of the hour.

[Chris]

I'm here till Wednesday.

[Paige]

Because here's the thing that annoys me. And it's the logistics of it. A nickname is supposed to be easier to say than the actual person's name. The name Harry is quite literally. I feel like one of the easiest names.

[Chris]

Rolls off the tongue.

[Paige]

Rolls off the tongue. To say H, I feel like, is harder on your mouth.

[Chris]

Can you call me H from now on?

[Paige]

And then in. Change does not make it an easier nickname.

[Chris]

Sorry. I had a friend who I love, but she did the most annoying thing where whenever she. Wait.

[Paige]

I just realized your name starts with age.

[Chris]

That's why you said.

[Paige]

I was like, why would I call you that?

[Chris]

You can't. You go, wait. Hannah starts with an H. I had this friend who, whenever she would start dating a guy, they'd be a week in, and she'd be like, me and J. And his name was like, Jason. She'd be like, J and I. And then she'd meet another guy named Patrick. She'd be like, me and P. And I was like, this is. I feel like you're overcompensating. Cause you guys actually haven't talked about any. Yeah. You've never spoken to each other.

[Paige]

I'm just thinking, like, have I ever been close to any boyfriend ever? I've never called them, like, a nickname, ever. I would say, like, from their own.

[Chris]

I once started dating a guy and I would say like, babe. And he was like, don't ever call me that. And I was like, okay, unpack that in therapy. Like, I'm just.

[Paige]

You know what? I have some other choice words. You fucking asshole. How about that for a nickname?

[Chris]

Babe, what's your go to when you Were in a relationship and had someone who loves you.

[Paige]

When I. When I felt any. When I felt a warm touch at night. Nothing based off their own name.

[Chris]

Yeah, it would be genius. Generic.

[Paige]

Like, it would be something that happened or, like, something like.

[Chris]

I like calling them, like, what a pimp would call his girls. Like, yeah, it could be. In case I forget your name, Babe. Honey buns.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Like, yeah, I like to say, what's cooking, good looking?

[Paige]

I like. I actually like my name being used.

[Chris]

Ooh.

[Paige]

Like, I like being called Paige.

[Chris]

Say every syllable of my name, including the silent h at the end.

[Paige]

Anna.

[Chris]

When DEZ is my name fully, I'm like, okay, stop flirting. You're literally obsessed with me.

[Paige]

No, no. Like, there's literally just something really, like, where you're trying to, like, make love.

[Chris]

Like, why don't you chill the out when you made. I can't say that. So intense. Well, yeah, Then des will say hand sometimes.

[Paige]

But we actually are similar. We have names that, like, you can't shorten.

[Chris]

I know.

[Paige]

Like, there is no nickname for our names.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paige]

So it's like. But here's the thing. My name. And I've said this for years, and no one has ever, like, agreed with me or like. Or been like, I see where you're coming from. If you say my name fast. Paige. It can also sound like. If you say the word bitch fast, it sounds like Paige. Because I've been in so many situations where I'm like, did you just call me a bitch? And they're like, I said Paige. And I'm like, I don't think you did. I don't think you did.

[Chris]

I do have to say, if they want to Frankenbite looks the same off the lip.

[Paige]

Paige.

[Chris]

Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. Paige. So.

[Paige]

And I.

[Chris]

Everyone's been. Your mom called you a bitch 100%. And then the doctor thought it was Paige and wrote it down. This is so. You know when you have a sibling and, like, you're too lazy to say their name like, like, fully. So, like, my brother's name's Daniel, but I always called him dental.

[Paige]

Or. I thought you were gonna say Dan, but that was crazy. Oh, God, no.

[Chris]

God, no.

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[Chris]

Wait, what else did you watch this weekend?

[Paige]

Oh, there was, like, a new Netflix show called I, like, Caught up on My Stuff.

[Chris]

Okay. Oh, so you're being private about us? She's like, how about none of your damn business?

[Paige]

My mom will always call me and I'll be like, okay, gotta go. I'm gonna watch my shows. And she's like, what shows? And I'm like, you don't know them. She's like, that's why I'm asking. Asking.

[Chris]

No, my mom convinced herself that she has the same taste and shows as you. So whenever you watch something, she watches it. She's like a Patreon.

[Paige]

We talk about shows a lot because.

[Chris]

You guys like period pieces. You think?

[Paige]

No, we love a period piece.

[Chris]

Okay, then I'm gonna bring it up.

[Paige]

Wait, did you see.

[Chris]

Sorry, I just took so much courage to say the last sentence. And you. What did I see? What is he?

[Paige]

Literally, my boyfriend? Brandon Skelner. Which, no skeleton.

[Chris]

Get his name?

[Paige]

Yeah. What is his name?

[Chris]

Sklarner.

[Paige]

I was. I said it wrong on the part. On the part. I told you, on the pod. I heard, like a Brendan Skellner. Skellner has a girlfriend.

[Chris]

Like, new. Like, just got one.

[Paige]

I don't know. I didn't. Once I saw a girlfriend. I honestly didn't look into it.

[Chris]

He heard you talking about him on the pod and he was like.

[Paige]

He was like, I have a girlfriend. No, I was like, wow, what interesting timing. We even heard one thing about a girlfriend. I say one goddamn word, and it's like a whole article. How I met my girlfriend on Tinder. I was like, oh, off Tinder? I don't know. I made that up. It could have been something totally different.

[Chris]

Well, I'm sorry about that.

[Paige]

Thanks.

[Chris]

It's a tough way to start the week. For sure.

[Paige]

For sure.

[Chris]

It seems like an attack on you. That was like when. When Charlie Puth got married to make me jealous. I was like, crazy.

[Paige]

He took the bit too far.

[Chris]

So far. I was like, I don't even follow you. Anymore. Like, how else are we going to see that? Like, no, I didn't even see it. Okay, I'm beyond. About this documentary on Hulu that you told me to watch. Ruby Frankie. No, not to be confused with. With Anne Frank. Ruby Frankie.

[Paige]

No. Here's the craziest part. Prior to her getting arrested, I had never gotten, like, I'm not a YouTube girly, really. So, like, I don't really know people that are, like, very big on YouTube. And I really don't know, obviously, like, families that are big on YouTub. But on my TikTok algorithm, I would say, like, a couple months prior to her getting arrested, I kept getting fed, like, a lot of their videos and people being like, oh, this is like a really interesting tactic, like, as a mom. And like, the comments would be like, no, she's been crazy for years. Or like, I've watched them for whatever. Like, no, she's just like, tough love, whatever. So I, like, kept getting those, so I knew who they were. And then she got arrested. So I've been so in it and obsessed. Well, let's first say what it is. She turned lesbian with that woman.

[Chris]

Okay, well, Mic drive.

[Paige]

Cause I think that's.

[Chris]

It's literally the plot of Mulholland Drive. No, I'm just kidding. So this is the thing. It is such a more complex story than just. I thought it was just a mommy vlogger gone crazy. No, she's not just like a. A mean mom. I mean, I think she is.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But let's be honest. There's Mormonism.

[Paige]

Mormonism and brainwashing.

[Chris]

Mormonism. Brainwashing. So she started off.

[Paige]

The husband.

[Chris]

Well, he was interviewed the whole time.

[Paige]

The husband has something mental.

[Chris]

He. He loves the embarrassment, the pain.

[Paige]

No, it was like the. Listening to him tell the story. I was just like, he, like, enjoyed it.

[Chris]

You're freak.

[Paige]

Okay, let's call this what it is. You're not normal either, sir. If any, anything, scariest one here. Okay, this is terrifying.

[Chris]

Hide like a normal person who should be ashamed.

[Paige]

Slip into the night. My guy. Like, I also. You should be arrested, too. Yeah, you should be arrested, too.

[Chris]

Well, stop acting like the father just was absent and had no idea of the family thing. Like, he knows the kid was sleeping.

[Paige]

You knew that your kids didn't get Christmas gifts. Jail. Yeah, immediate jail time.

[Chris]

Yeah. So I'm only episode two in it. I'm only episode two.

[Paige]

Oh, okay.

[Chris]

So you gave some stuff away already. But her whole thing was she didn't even, like, care about money. She wanted to be America's mom. She loved the fame. And then she would go so far as America's mom.

[Paige]

You didn't feed them. You literally. That's the number one thing about being a mom, just feeding us.

[Chris]

I'm obsessed with influencer culture where, like, what's going on behind the scenes and what's incredible about this documentary is they gave, like, hundreds of thousands of minutes of footage of her filming herself. Which, by the way, on my deathbed, delete the drafts in my home, right?

[Paige]

Like, they have all the videos that, like, weren't post. Like, the things that were edited out. They posted play.

[Chris]

And I'm saying just based on my embarrassment of me, like, trying to say something and fucking it up. Like, that's she literally.

[Paige]

Someone's talking and you're like, I'm filming something.

[Chris]

Like, yeah, you fumble a word, you're trying to get it right. Like, that's so embarrassing. She has all that. Plus she's like, kids next door, shut the fuck up. Yeah, right fucking now. Or you better sound happy in this conversation.

[Paige]

Did you notice how her daughter referred to her with their first name, Ruby?

[Chris]

And then the son, one of the sons is so cute. And she realized that he was the reason they were getting so many views. Cause he was so cute. And then he also. These kids just became teenagers. They basically were like, mom, I wanna play with my friends. Yeah. Like, I don't do Hours of YouTube video Brand deals with you. And she was like, he's possessed. Like, he's gone crazy. So it's a combination of religious stuff, brainwashing from this therapist, and just. It's a complicated tale of abuse.

[Paige]

It's so crazy. And, you know, like, when I was watching it, one of the things was like, I was like, oh, my God, I feel so bad for the younger kids. Like, they got the brunt of her, like, psychosis, craziness. But then I was like, wait. I actually feel the worst for the older kids because they could remember what their mom was, like, normal. And, like, the oldest daughter, like, had, like, started crying about something, obviously. But she just said, like, this is not my mom. Like, this is not the mom I grew up with. So that alone, like, imagine one day your mom just, like, isn't who she's been her whole life. And you're just like, wait, what?

[Chris]

Well, the whole concept of filming your kids. And you see it a lot, like, people get, I think, addicted to. They put the phone on their kid and they immediately get likes. So they think, oh, my God, I want likes. Who gives a fuck? I'll keep filming my kid.

[Paige]

No, I said that Daphne was never gonna be on Instagram two days. Like, she's a Runway model.

[Chris]

She's a DSW brand deal in stores.

[Paige]

You want to go to school, you have to pay for it.

[Chris]

And at one point, the kids are like, I don't want to film. And she's like, I'll give you $10 if you film. There are laws in California now that says something like, if you are, your kid has to get a certain percentage.

[Paige]

Child labor laws.

[Chris]

Yeah. Which as there should be.

[Paige]

Well, because think about all those years ago, like, when select, like, kids start. Like Shirley Temple.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Paige]

Like, starting and making money. There's famous kids who never saw a dime.

[Chris]

Yes. Like, literally were broke at the end of working their whole childhood.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I'd also argue that, like, Shia LaBeouf.

[Paige]

His family always took his money and shit.

[Chris]

I do have to say there's something to be said about kids doing chores and kids having a goal and stuff, but having kids have, like, a full career is not healthy to their development.

[Paige]

I'm gonna be so honest. A couple days ago, I get a call and they're like, daphne booked a pretty big campaign. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so crazy. I feel like Abby Lee Miller, like, one of my dancers is a star. And I said to my agent on the phone, I said, do I have to create her an llc? Like, I don't want to take. How are we getting paid for this? My agent was like, no, it's an animal. The money can go to you, Paige.

[Chris]

I was like, oh, you're getting one of these crazy bitches that is like, Paige leaves her entire estate to death for you when he passes away, and your kids are gonna be like, what the fuck? Shift to fucking care.

[Paige]

Do you wanna know something that's funny and not true, but funny? Those types of people, I wanna shoot them. No. When I hear, like, oh, celebrity entire estate to ex wife. Or, like, celebrity dies and, like, donates it all and has five kids, I would. He's lucky he died because I would have fucking killed him if I was his child. I think that is, like, the rudest, most disrespectful.

[Chris]

Some of these celebs hate their, like, offspring, their Nepo. Spoiled offspring. So it's like a fuck you if this is my thing.

[Paige]

Fine.

[Chris]

Donate to charity.

[Paige]

They didn't ask to be there.

[Chris]

Donate to charity, though. Like, if you're not gonna give it to your kids.

[Paige]

If my dad was a billionaire and he died and he left it all to charity. I'm showing up at that charity suddenly.

[Chris]

Suddenly.

[Paige]

The name of the charity is called Paige Desorbel. No, that. I just, like, never understand that. It's like, okay, yeah, donate some to charity, amazing. But to not give any to your children, I can't.

[Chris]

I watch a lot of, you know, celebrity documentaries. I think some of them who are self made feel like they want their kids to work hard like they did and not just have tons of money.

[Paige]

I couldn't have a more different mindset. I want my child to not even know a thing. Like, literally not a thing. I don't want them to struggle for a minute. Yeah, no, I mean, I do. I want them to build character. But anyway. But, like, I like that. I feel like that is why you work hard, though. It's like, oh, I want to give you a better life than I had.

[Chris]

Speaking of kids going through adversity, I saw this on Instagram. Someone said, you know when you're a kid and you have to sharpen your pencil? Yeah. So you'd get up to the garbage and you just, like, sharpen it and it feels kind of nice. And you'd also get to, like, you take a break. Oh, that's a version of a cigarette break.

[Paige]

As a kid, I was the queen of taking a break. The pencil sharpener wasn't enough for me. I was like, ooh, still too stimulating. You guys are all here. I was at the nurse's office. The nurse knew me. Okay.

[Chris]

So funny. Because now you deal with me. Paige will literally be like, this hurts. This hurts. And I go, you're going on stage. I'm not your fucking nurse anymore.

[Paige]

I'd walk into the nurse's office and she'd say, what is it today, Paige? I'd say, well, I don't know. We walk into the green light, tingle in my throat. Better call my mommy.

[Chris]

I feel like my past life with my children died of cholera is coming forward today. No.

[Paige]

I'd literally go to the nurse's office, and the nurse would say, why don't we just. Just call your mom, talk to her for a few minutes and see how you feel. And I'd be like, that sounds nice. I'd literally go to the nurse's office in the middle of the day, call my mom, see what she was up to, tell her I love her. She'd say, you can finish the rest of the day. And I'd say, fine. And then I would go back to school. I needed, like, a midday pep talk.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Paige]

It's hard out Here.

[Chris]

So real. So real.

[Paige]

Let kids call their mom just during school. What was the harmony?

[Chris]

It should be like a jail where they have a row of telephones where you go, you're getting a call from PS321 during the middle of the day. Mom, I can't do it anymore. This place, it's a prison.

[Paige]

No. I always think about kids that get sent away to, like, wilderness camp. Like, and they, like, write home, like, please pick us up. Like, we hate it. Like, I think about that all the time. Like, I. I so would have done that.

[Chris]

No, my brother, like, wrote a. My brother was like, you. Like, he was always in the nurse's office. And he at one point went to camp, first day was like, nope, not doing this. Wrote this, like, insane, scathing email. The camp had to call my parents to warn them about. Because they read all the mail, which illegal.

[Paige]

Also invasive.

[Chris]

And they were like, you're gonna get a really disturbing message from your son. But this was like a week later. And they go, but he's actually doing great right now, so you can kind of disregard that.

[Paige]

Wait, that's so funny.

[Chris]

My mother was like, I will not. Then they called my parents because they were like, a piece of. There was some contraband that someone got into the cabins, and it was a Playboy that someone brought, and we just need to warn you. And my dad was like, thank you for letting us know. I hope our son's gonna be okay. They were like 15 at the time.

[Paige]

Wait, that's so crazy. The evolution of porn. How crazy. Kids had to bring magazines.

[Chris]

No, Des joked you used to have to go online and print out a photo of boobs. Did you not? I had a friend once who got in trouble when we were young cause he was printing out a photo of boobs.

[Paige]

No, I never, like, porn was never in my, like, zeitgeist. Yeah, like, it wasn't in my middle school, high school zeitgeist. Guys, like, I just never. Yeah, we never. It never came out.

[Chris]

You went to an all girls Catholic school? The amount of shame you guys had about even like, talking. Did you have sex ed?

[Paige]

Barely.

[Chris]

They were like, if a guy.

[Paige]

They were like, listen to these 50 Cent lyrics. How dare he? And I'm like, this is a fucking banger. What are you guys talking about? No, we, like, barely had it. But we did have, like, religion class that was like, if you have a baby out of wedlock, you're a whore.

[Chris]

Did you ever have a condom class where they took the banana?

[Paige]

Too intense for an all girls Catholic school. No, that's. They basically said condoms exist for whores. You should know about that. But if you ever thought about stopping God's children from being born.

[Chris]

Meanwhile, how many of the girls were getting abortions?

[Paige]

Tens upon tens of hundreds. And, like, the one girl that did the, like, religious thing and kept her baby, they were like, you're expelled, you fucking slut. Get out of here. No, it's crazy. It was like, no, wouldn't. What an insane.

[Chris]

What a time.

[Paige]

What a shy.

[Chris]

What a time.

[Paige]

Actually, I have to go speak at my high school next month.

[Chris]

Just say we. Speaking of celebrities and money, did you. This is actually a good segue of whores. Did you see two.

[Paige]

She gave money.

[Chris]

The best whore in the world. Kim Kardashian. Yeah. Did you see Chris Humphries? Like, there's something happened with the engagement ring.

[Paige]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see that. She said that. How she paid for her engagement ring and he asked for it back.

[Chris]

Yes. Thoughts? So Kris Humphries only paid for a fifth of the engagement ring, but then he wanted it back. That's not how business works, pal.

[Paige]

Not how business works. But it was probably. He was probably being such a dick during that divorce that he was like, well, give me the ring. And she was like, fine.

[Chris]

Like, yeah, just leave me alone. But also, like, what is he gonna do? Like, pawn it off?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Also, at this point, I'd rather, like, keep your 1/5. Let me pay for the whole ring. Why do you need to pay for a fifth of it? Right.

[Paige]

She probably did that for him to feel. He probably.

[Chris]

It's almost more embarrassing that he can only put in a little bit. I'd rather just be like, you can't do it. At least let me have my ring.

[Paige]

Okay. What are your thoughts on if I were to get married? Why is that funny? You know, why is that funny? If I fell in love with a man. If I were to give a man a chance.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Paige]

No.

[Chris]

If a man were to. Correct once. Just once.

[Paige]

If I were to fall in love with, like, a broke man.

[Chris]

Yeah. Which honestly, I love for you.

[Paige]

No. Maybe that's what I need.

[Chris]

Because if he's broke, that means he's so good on so many other things. Except for.

[Paige]

Except for basic living needs.

[Chris]

Yeah. Basic living needs. And also, that's not even the point. Not the point. We're getting. We're getting sidetracked.

[Paige]

No atmosphere. If I were to.

[Chris]

We're so good at manifesting on the pod. You're like, nip it. Nip it in the butt.

[Paige]

If I were to fall in love with a broke man, but I loved the fuck out of him and I wanted to marry him. And, like, this was my person.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And he said that he couldn't afford the engagement ring that I specifically wanted. Yeah.

[Chris]

Because it's insane what you're going to ask for. I don't think anyone can afford the ring that you want.

[Paige]

There's someone out there, a Princeton out there. I actually. For how, like, for how traditional I am, I think in relationships, that actually wouldn't bother me to buy my own ring because I knew it's something I wanted. Now him being broke in general would probably bother me more than me buying my own ring.

[Chris]

My question, you're in a relationship and you're doing well, and you decide, I want this house, and he's on the fence about it, but you're like. Like, I can buy it. I'm gonna buy it, and I want to buy our house.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Would you buy it? And then it's your asset, you know, it's your investment.

[Paige]

I'm not even putting his name down.

[Chris]

No.

[Paige]

Oh.

[Chris]

I mean, you can if you want.

[Paige]

Hell, yeah.

[Chris]

You know?

[Paige]

Hell, yeah. This is my house, bitch.

[Chris]

I was saying, the second you get married, you, like, obviously you could put your name on everything, but, like, you can buy what you want. Like, because you could live two lives. Why make money if you are still waiting on him to buy you stuff?

[Paige]

Honestly, it only matters if we were to get divorced, because if we were to get the divorce houses in my name automatically goes to me.

[Chris]

But, like, if. Because I'm just saying, ring or house. I'm saying, what if you guys, you're looking at a house and, you know, if I put more of my money in, we could get a nicer house. Would you do that?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paige]

100.

[Chris]

It's kind of. But the ring is such a romantic gesture of like.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But also, if you care a lot about what other people think of the size of your ring and he's not hitting it, then you need. Then you might want to add some buffer to it.

[Paige]

I'll add a buffer.

[Chris]

Would you tell people if you added a buffer?

[Paige]

No, because I feel like that would make him feel insecure.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Would I tell him at nighttime when it's just the two of us? Hell, yeah.

[Chris]

Would I bring it up every time.

[Paige]

Every time we fought? Fuck, yeah. When I was giving birth to his children, I'd be like, what have you done at all?

[Chris]

You couldn't even get a full fucking ring. This ring, I fucking had to get for myself and my blood, sweat, and tears. Someone was joking online about, like, if your husband murdered someone, would you throw them under the bus? And they were like, no. But every time we got, like, I wanted him to do something, I'd be like, you better go hand me the remote in the other room, or I'm gonna make a phone call.

[Paige]

I'm a big fan of blackmail.

[Chris]

I'm gonna make a phone call.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And it's on speed dial. Yeah.

[Paige]

It's like I hold it over, remember speed dial.

[Chris]

Wait, that's like. I feel like you had it saved.

[Paige]

In the, like, telephone in, like, real home phones.

[Chris]

Yeah. So, like, you'd press one. I might have just made that one.

[Paige]

I don't remember that.

[Chris]

These two are not helpful for this.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

They have no idea what's going on. One other thing about relationships that was actually I learned from Detroiters, which you all should watch. Watch the first episode. Tell me what you think. It's my favorite comedy right now. They said, when you're in a relationship, you have to feel like that person enables your star factor. And I really liked that. I really liked that. Cause there's a lot of, like, oh, you know, only one person could be a star. Whatever. I feel like you should bring out the star in each other.

[Paige]

I've realized that, like, if you want to be a better person for that person, like, that's a good sign. Like, I've never wanted to, like, improve something about myself.

[Chris]

Or you find yourself actually getting worse.

[Paige]

Yeah, because I'm like, I don't have to improve anything because I'm so much better than you. It's like, you need time to catch up or.

[Chris]

Yeah, you're not improving because you're so busy trying to improve them that you actually haven't even, like, focused on yourself at all.

[Paige]

So I know, like, I'm in a healthy relationship when I'm like, wait.

[Chris]

When you check yourself.

[Paige]

Yeah, When I'm like, wait, I actually want to eat a little healthier.

[Hannah]

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[Chris]

I pulled my back out last week doing Pilates.

[Paige]

Yeah, like in the midst of the class, you were like, something. Something's not right.

[Chris]

In the midst of class. I think I had too much adrenaline. I didn't realize it, but I was doing a move very wrong for way too long. Like, you know, it's like you do everything for like three minutes. Yeah. I was two and a half minutes in and the lady was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How did you even get your body in the. This way? But I'm not going to point fingers copying the girl in front of me. Yeah. Yep.

[Paige]

Okay. Someone check on her back as well, because we're both not doing well.

[Chris]

Girl, if you're listening to pot, hit me up. We can ice packs together.

[Paige]

That's literally being in middle school. And you both failed the test. It's like, who cheated off who? We don't know.

[Chris]

Because I'm just going on what she's doing. Because sometimes. Whatever. But long story short, she should have caught it earlier. And it's on her. No one did anything. I never did anything wrong. Everyone did everything else wrong. But I was doing this like crazy twisty move and I was bending during the twist. And you're supposed to stand during the twist. Whatever. I fucked it up. I'm not of the age where I just snap back.

[Paige]

No, I.

[Chris]

And obviously after Pilates, what do you think I did all day sat with. In a weird position, watching.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Watching Detroiters for the next eight hours. So I. I got up, and I immediately was like, I've pulled my back out.

[Paige]

Do you want to know the last time that happened to me? I got a cat, so watch out.

[Chris]

Oh, don't tempt me. Don't tempt me. But I Googled it, and they were like, the one thing you shouldn't do if you've pulled your back is sit in the same position for too long. And I was like, well, that's the only thing I did.

[Paige]

So what if you've already done that?

[Chris]

I was like, it's too late for me. And I had already pressured Grace the next morning to do a lot of things. You go out another one.

[Paige]

Well, you've done it to yourself.

[Chris]

So I wake up in the morning, and not only am I fighting my own demons, but I have sweet, sweet Grace, who looks forward to this with me. It's like, pretty much she doesn't have a lot of other things going on. We are. She has so much. She's up to here with work. It is the highlight of her day. I make a couple of jokes.

[Paige]

Let me get a good stretch in with my boss.

[Chris]

She's laughing because it's true. I'm making jokes whenever it's a hard exercise. I look over at her, and we have a moment together. It's really quite. It's so fun.

[Paige]

She's like, I love my job. I love my job.

[Chris]

I love my job. So this was, like, literally me being insane, and I'm gonna pull it up. So I send her a long voice note. Cause I know Grace. Yes.

[Paige]

Hasn't she endured enough after the fact? After the class, you're like, let me follow up with her.

[Chris]

No, before the class, I send her a whole thing. I'm like, I am so sorry to ruin your day. I'm not gonna be able to make it to class today. I pulled my back out.

[Paige]

Oh, okay.

[Chris]

So she goes, omg. Godspeed. We'll miss you. Looking back at it now, I think she just said it to say it. But when I saw it, I go, oh, my God. She's gonna. It's. She's gonna miss me.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Get it together.

[Paige]

Is she gonna be okay to be in the class by herself?

[Chris]

So then I'm like, I can Hannah just go? Because I started Googling. Can you do Pilates with a bad back? And they were like, oh, Pilates is actually good for a bad back.

[Paige]

And I'm like, that's Crazy people at Google are ever like, no, you fucking idiot.

[Chris]

It literally says, if you have a bad back, Pilates can help. And I go, so I'm going back to the source of the pain. So then I go, okay, well, maybe I'm being a little bitch and I should just go, and it'll help my back. So I respond to her. I go, actually, never mind. She goes, okay. I go, thank you. Why did you say thank you? Then 10 minutes later, I go, actually, my back hurts too much. Never mind.

[Paige]

Oh, my God.

[Chris]

Cause I stood up and I was like, no. You know what's hurting now?

[Paige]

Grace's fucking head.

[Chris]

Okay? Her brain. So this is at 11:15, 11:16. I go, JK coming.

[Paige]

No. What time was the class?

[Chris]

11:30'S like, I have to leave. So she goes, someone is at war with their brain. Someone is at war with their brain this morning. And then the best part is after that, I go, jk can.

[Paige]

JK can't.

[Chris]

And then she goes, rest. And I'm like, why didn't you say rest in the beginning? Because I would have just rested, but instead I felt like I was ruining your fucking day. So again, Grace and I. Oh, my God. Anyway, like, I should not put her through that. But I was fighting for my life because I kept being like, am I being a pussy?

[Paige]

Yeah. So now how's your back?

[Chris]

Great. I need it. I really need that day off. Honestly, it made so much of a difference.

[Paige]

You, literally. And here's the thing about when you hurt yourself, you don't realize it until that moment that you're getting older and that you don't bounce back until you're not bouncing back until it's too late.

[Chris]

And you can't feed your own cat, because as you bend down to give her water. Yeah.

[Paige]

And you get, like, frustrated at yourself. You're like, no, be healed now.

[Chris]

No. 100%.

[Paige]

Even, like, going to Pilates. Like, this past week, I ate the healthiest I've eaten in years, and I went to Pilates and I looked in the mirror and I was like, where are the results?

[Chris]

You do not snap back.

[Paige]

You just don't snap back when I.

[Chris]

Tell you all I had to take was a sturdy shit in my 20s, and I was like, okay. Snap. Snatch. Truly to the heavens.

[Paige]

Truly.

[Chris]

Speaking of body shaming.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Did I ever tell you what my nickname was like through high school into college?

[Paige]

No.

[Chris]

Quadzilla. What? Quadzilla.

[Paige]

Hannah. I'd. Quite literally. That's why I'm in my own grave.

[Chris]

That's why I'm funny. That's why I have a good personality. I had huge. I still. They're not strong, but I used to have, like. My quads were, like, what is a quad? It's, like, above your knee. Like, my quads were so strong, the muscles were, like, bulging over my kneecaps.

[Paige]

To, like, your thighs.

[Chris]

Like, I could squat, like, insane amounts, and I was really fast on the court. And literally, hot guys would be like, sup, Quadzilla? I'm like, sorry, I'm just trying my best.

[Paige]

They're just not creative, you know? Just, like, not a good nickname. Quadzilla.

[Chris]

No. The kids were so lazy with it, and it stuck. Before that, it was called Elf Ears. So it was kind of. Honestly, at least it was powerful in a way.

[Paige]

At least you thought of Christmas and joy. Quadzilla. That's crazy behavior.

[Chris]

And, like, I couldn't tell if, like, they thought my legs were, like, cute or not.

[Paige]

I don't.

[Chris]

But I told you, I'll always have guys being like, hey, what do you do for those calves? Like, they want my, like, calf workout.

[Paige]

No, Hannah, you're stronger. You are so strong. Because if someone asked me, a man specifically said, what do you do for your cab workouts? I'd. No.

[Chris]

Men look at me like a horse. They, like, check my teeth.

[Paige]

They're like, why are men always trying to, like, treat you like you're. They're breeding with you. Yeah.

[Chris]

And they're like, what's your vert?

[Paige]

What?

[Chris]

They're like, do you want to race?

[Paige]

Men always get so oddly competitive with you in, like, such a. What is that? That's why I wonder if it's just, like, the energy you give off, like, immediately.

[Chris]

I did start thriving in college, though, because Division 1 babies were, like, a topic.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Chris]

So, like, a lot of the athletes would, you know, be courting women.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And then they'd see me. Yeah. And they just smell a Nike sponsorship for their child, like, immediately, like, yeah, you could go to the sorority girl who can't fucking walk in a straight line. Or I. I could fucking throw a football 100 yards. What. What do you want for our child? Do you want your child to dunk right. With these calves?

[Paige]

And if. Yeah.

[Chris]

So it's just, like, a matter of what kind of DNA you want.

[Paige]

Wow.

[Chris]

But a lot of these.

[Paige]

No, I will say. No one's ever come up to me and said, like, hey, our kids might be athletic. If anything, they're like, I think you'll have a gay son.

[Chris]

Gay son who. Let's Just say, could palm a basketball with your fingers.

[Paige]

I'm talking about my unborn gay son because he's fabulous.

[Chris]

Wait, do you think your son's gonna be gay?

[Paige]

I don't know.

[Chris]

You want it so bad.

[Paige]

I think that if, like, I. If I had all boys, well, one, I'd actually, like, go to church for so many days in a row and be like, what did I. Where did I mess up? And, like, if one of them is not gay, God is really trying to teach me something.

[Chris]

I have heard that, like, you've been cracking me up on the road about the boy mom's joke, which, like, we're not doing anymore. Can we please do it?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So I found a photo of Paige.

[Paige]

Dressed up, like, just, like, the pinnacle of what you think. Like, when you picture a boy mom, like, picking her son up from practice.

[Chris]

And, like, her son's name is, like, Tanner Tucker Something crazy.

[Paige]

Xylophone.

[Chris]

Xylophone. No, you have, like, flannel on and you have your knee high boots and, like, you have your Starbucks order. That was so complicated and unnecessary and.

[Paige]

Like, the weather isn't conducive for a beanie. But she's wearing a beanie.

[Chris]

It's part of your look because it is fall.

[Paige]

It's part of her allure.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Paige]

And, like, she just gives that, like, her oldest, Trenton, she loves him the most. And, like, everyone knows she loves him the most. And she, like, writes him notes in his lunchbox that, like, nobody's gonna ever love you the way mommy loves you. Like his little girlfriend. She, like, refers to her as little girlfriend. You know, Angie also, like, wants to fuck him.

[Chris]

We show this outfit. Paige is like, this is an outfit of a boy mom who wants to fuck her eldest son. And that is so real.

[Paige]

It's so real.

[Chris]

I might think you having a daughter would be too powerful. The alliance you guys would have maybe once.

[Paige]

Honestly, Daphne did something over the weekend with a dog, actually. Let me just tell the gigs. So Daphne was in the same vicinity as a dog this weekend, and I was really nervous about it, so I was like, oh, I'm gonna put Gates up. And, like, she can't. I don't need her anywhere near this dog. Obviously, in true, like, cat. Cat fashion. I turn my head for a minute and I'm like, where the fuck's the cat? I see her standing on, like, a thing of stairs, staring at this dog. This dog is backed up into a corner crying. Okay. Daphne's literally, like, far away from him, too. Like, maybe, like, 30ft away from this dog, she's just sitting on the stairs looking at this dog licking her paw.

[Chris]

Just being, like, unfazed.

[Paige]

Unfazed. Like, this is my house now, bitch. Like, I don't. And in that moment, I was like, I, I. You're my biological daughter. You don't give a about a boy.

[Chris]

That's my baby.

[Paige]

Like, that's my. So, like, the thought of, like, watching my daughter do something that's, like, against the patriarchy. No, it's too powerful. I'll cry.

[Chris]

I'm so proud of her. So she wasn't even, like, hissing or anything. She literally was just like, look at this.

[Paige]

She literally looked at the dog. I almost felt like she looked at the dog, looked at me and was like, okay. That was the energy she was giving to me.

[Chris]

I'm obsessed with her so much. We had a zoom recently where both Butter and Daphne were on the zoom.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And so they kind of met.

[Paige]

They did.

[Chris]

They didn't make eye contact, but like. But they were like, they're on a work call together.

[Paige]

Yeah. They were like, if you guys don't leave us anything after you die.

[Chris]

Divorce. Jessica Simpson has new music inspired from her divorce. Have you seen it?

[Paige]

It.

[Chris]

Wait, Jessica Simpson?

[Paige]

Simpson, yeah. Oh, I forgot. She was getting a job with a.

[Chris]

Hockey player, so we knew that was going to happen.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But.

[Paige]

Oh, he was.

[Chris]

I think so.

[Paige]

I don't think so.

[Chris]

Let's see. Can we Google who? Jessica. I think you're getting her Simpsons Ex. Was.

[Paige]

Are you thinking Carrie Underwood?

[Chris]

It's possible. It's possible. Was he a businessman or was he.

[Paige]

I think he was a businessman.

[Chris]

Well, he had a blockhead and.

[Paige]

What is a businessman?

[Chris]

You know, again, something men made up. Yeah. To feel important.

[Paige]

What is.

[Chris]

Oh, football. Oh, football. Even worse. Arguably the same. So he, like, cheated. I guess. Okay, so she's. She's back doing music, which it makes. It's interesting. It's like he leaves, she's back doing what she's passionate about. Also, the hate that woman got.

[Paige]

No, no, I have it burned in my brain. The outfit she was wearing. Denim flared jeans with a leopard belt and a white T shirt. And they were like, this woman is huge.

[Chris]

Well, yeah, they weight shamed her, but also they shamed her voice, which, like, I'm sorry. Like, people were always. Sing better.

[Paige]

Jessica Simpson.

[Chris]

Can you guys sing better? Then shut the fuck up. Also, I loved her voice.

[Paige]

She's got the last laugh. Next angel, though. I think she's a legit billionaire.

[Chris]

Good.

[Paige]

From her Jessica Simpson line. Her shoe line. Like, her line. Yeah, she's really does incredibly.

[Chris]

But it looks like she's back. It's the first time she performed in, like, years. So shout out to her. I'm proud of her.

[Paige]

I'm so proud of her. I've been seeing this thing on TikTok and I'm gonna try and do it. This is. Oh, let me update the gigglers on my face masks. This weekend I did two face masks. One was a medicube. I'll put it in the newsletter. I was obsessed with it. I love it. And then I've been seeing this thing on TikTok where it's like, how to stay more present, like, in your everyday life, which is something I'm really trying to work on. Like, staying present in the moment that we're in, you know, like, not letting my mind wander. And then I'm having, like, a fake fight with someone in my brain. I'm like, how'd we get here?

[Chris]

And then four hours later.

[Paige]

Yeah, I'm like, well, I won't. But it's called a color walk. And basically you go out on a walk and you pick a color, and then every time you see that color, you note it in your head, like, okay, red stop sign. Like, red awning, red car.

[Chris]

It sounds like a kid game. Yeah. Are you sure it wasn't, like, for parents whose kids were being annoying on walks?

[Paige]

I spied with my little eyes. Wow. Now that I think about it, me and my mom played I Spy all the freaking time. Every time we got in the doctor's office, she was like, okay, let's play. I just caught on. Now.

[Chris]

That's what they say, though, when you're having a panic attack to, like, look at something and say, like, put your feet on.

[Paige]

The color, the smell, whatever.

[Chris]

You know how it is. Well, I'm glad that you're really connecting to colors right now.

[Paige]

No, I'm really connecting to, like, nature. Trying to get my 10k steps in.

[Chris]

Wait, why does this make me, like, more worried for your well being? Like, what are you searching for that you don't have right now?

[Paige]

A husband?

[Chris]

You dabble in and out of being, like, if I have to see a man, I do have to say, though, it just takes one man. And for everyone listening, we joke about de centering. We don't joke. It's very serious, de centering. But you want to de center while finding that one person.

[Paige]

No, I'm also, like, just being, like, funny and sarcastic. My REM has never been better. I mean, my skin is been better. But like, you know, like, when you have, like, things you want to do that you're like, oh, I really want to do those. But like, I just never have time. And unless, like, oh, once I have, like a full Sunday off, like, I'll do all those things. I've been doing all those things.

[Chris]

Wait. I'm so proud of you. Are you ever worried that you're going to clog all your pores with too many masks?

[Paige]

Okay, first of all, have you been texting my mom?

[Chris]

No. Are you drowning yourself?

[Paige]

Well, okay, I'm dealing with four pimples right now, so, like, be easy on me.

[Chris]

I've been sending her memes.

[Paige]

No.

[Chris]

Of her pimples personalities in.

[Paige]

Just different things personified. Usually my route is like, I'm gonna dry the fuck out of my skin. I'm gonna dry this pimple right up. But this weekend I went and did the opposite. And I hydrated my skin like a thousand times more than I ever would. And my skin, actually, my pimples did get better. I'm still like.

[Chris]

Because sometimes when you're dry, I feel like it adds more oils, which can clog it more. Like, I kind of made that up.

[Paige]

But like, no, I mean, it sounds right, but I didn't.

[Chris]

I also do feel like pimples have a natural life cycle that sometimes you just have to let them live.

[Paige]

Yeah. The best thing that I use again, I'll put it in the newsletter, is my, like, light zapper to, like, stop an active pimple. No, it really, truly does work. It like, stops the bacteria. Wait till you read the newsletter this week.

[Chris]

What is the spray that you use for, like, like for Weeds? Roundup. She goes, I use my Roundup and I give it a little spritz.

[Paige]

Honestly, that is something I would do.

[Chris]

I do have to say this was the first weekend we had free in, like, forever. Yeah. And I was really battling demons though. Cuz I would, like, be like, oh my God, this feels so good. And then like four hours in, I'd be like, am I depressed? And then I'd be like, no, we're enjoying ourselves.

[Paige]

No, I would, like, put things on my list and be like, if I have this free day, like, I might as well get this done. And I had to, like, act. And that's how I felt like I was. I've crossed over into adulthood. I had to actively be like, no, relax, rest.

[Chris]

See, resting is huge.

[Paige]

But I. I feel guilty.

[Chris]

No, resting is so important. Which we learned from my back earlier in. In this episode. I've not Become a full adult yet. Because my mom called me and was like, you haven't been to the gynecologist in years. And I was like. I go, well, I don't have a gynecologist, and no one set me up with one. And she was like, that's not how it works. So I went on Zocdoc. And this is the thing. Zocdoc for gyno is wild.

[Paige]

Wild.

[Chris]

But I found. I honestly liked her. Her energy from her photo.

[Paige]

You have to go on vibes because there's nothing else on Zoc doc to go by.

[Chris]

Who do I. Whose forearm do I want in my pussy?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

So she was cute. She seemed nice.

[Paige]

Because you're never going male. Except for my dead body freezing my eggs. My doctor is a guy, and I'm fine with it. He's made me fine with it.

[Chris]

I don't remember it being so quick, though. She literally just, like, in and out, shoved it, felt up my boobs. Yeah, I do have a lipoma. I have, like, a big fat cell on the side. Have you seen it?

[Paige]

Of course I have.

[Chris]

No, I have, like, a huge fat globule.

[Paige]

You have to go to a dermatologist and get that taken out.

[Chris]

I just searched on Zocdoc Lipoma Dr. And I just set up an appointment. So we'll see what happens. Okay.

[Paige]

This is really important to me, specifically. I either need a full video of them taking that out of you, or I need to come with you.

[Chris]

This is. Please come with me.

[Paige]

Super Bowl.

[Chris]

No, but this is my problem is that I want to go in and be like, can you cut it out? Thank you. Where I think it's, like, going to be a whole thing.

[Paige]

Sometimes I watch videos and it's sister lipoma, and you have to get out. And I love those videos.

[Chris]

Really? Yeah. Okay. How did they get the lipoma out?

[Paige]

They literally chop it off.

[Chris]

Okay, well, do you think somebody would do it the first time? Because I really don't want to go back and forth like, a hundred times.

[Paige]

No, I think you're gonna have to go in for a consultation first. They're not just gonna meet you and say, let's chop your skin off.

[Chris]

What if I just give them a 20 and I'm like, let's just freeze this off.

[Paige]

Huh?

[Chris]

There's, like, different. Anyway. It's growing, and honestly, like, the summer's coming and I just need it off. I need it off.

[Paige]

It's. Come on.

[Chris]

Yeah, so. But she was. She said it's not breast cancer, so just Want to let you guys know.

[Paige]

Oh, good. I didn't even know that was something that.

[Chris]

It's just like. It's close to my boob.

[Paige]

Got it. Okay.

[Chris]

Wow. The pod has gotten crazy.

[Paige]

No. We went in so many different directions.

[Chris]

Who even knows, honestly? And the final thing, final celeb, I want to bring up, who I've honestly never respected more. And she gets torn apart for everything she does.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Taylor Swift.

[Paige]

What'd she do?

[Chris]

She was paparazzied with Travis Kelce. And the back of her hair, a mess. A complete mess.

[Paige]

Not her business.

[Chris]

None of her business.

[Paige]

The woman is a businesswoman. The back of her hair, not important.

[Chris]

It's starting to make me realize, like, the gag has been on us the whole time. I think she loves people being like, her style's not great or whatever's great. Cause she's like, I'm a billionaire there, and I still do whatever the I want. And I'm not gonna conform to whatever societal pressure you think a female celebrity should be. And her walking on the state where she knew was gonna get photographed and her hair being a damn mess in the back.

[Paige]

Yeah. She didn't want to go to dinner. She literally. That's a woman who was on the couch and was like, do we. Do we have.

[Chris]

She. She thought she was gonna get out of it.

[Paige]

Yeah, she thought she was gonna get out of it.

[Chris]

Really thought she was like. She was like, it's windy outside. Have you seen the wind? I don't know if the roads got canceled. Some quick updates. Our book comes out in less than a month. And I know you guys thought this was a bit. So did we. It's not a bit. It's done. The book is done. And a lot of you have already pre ordered it. However, I looked at the numbers of the people who listened to the pod and the people who have pre ordered the book. Some of you haven't. No, I'll find you. Some of you haven't. This book is our passion, our life's work. I highly recommend go and order our thesis, our thesis statement of life.

[Paige]

No, like, we worked on our thesis.

[Chris]

It's literally we put our heart and soul we bled onto it. And if you click in the description, you can pre order it and you'll be one of the first to get it when it comes out on April 15. Also, the audiobook is available, so you can immediately get it. So do it now so you don't.

[Paige]

Forget, which is basically just listening to the pod.

[Chris]

Yes.

[Paige]

You know?

[Chris]

Yes.

[Paige]

It's just a fun A spicier, fun pod. Yeah, a longer pod.

[Chris]

A longer pod. Where we like. Anyway. Yeah, I'm trying to think of something. Also, I have shows in Albany this weekend. Are you coming?

[Paige]

Oh, yeah. When? Thursday, Friday, Saturday?

[Chris]

Do you want to come Thursday? Yeah, we'll talk about it. But I also just announced shows in New Haven, Connecticut, Providence, Rhode Island, Brooks, California, Highland, California, Richfield, Connecticut, Red Bank, New Jersey, and West Hampton Beach. Those are all my new hour.

[Paige]

Yay. I'm so excited Paige is gonna see.

[Chris]

My new hour this week. Give me notes.

[Paige]

I'm so excited for it.

[Chris]

She might actually do her own 10 minutes.

[Paige]

I'm not doing that ever.

[Chris]

But I quote Paige Desorbro. She said I would never stand for that long.

[Paige]

I couldn't. I'd pass out, literally.

[Chris]

I've been watching your Amazon live. Sometimes when I miss you, I have to say, you're doing full stand up. You're doing full stand up. You're doing full stand up. But literally, I was like kicking my legs. I was like, we love you guys so much. Thank you for giggling. Talk soon. Bye.

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