Giggling about past lives, witch trials, and crutches

Summary

Giggly Squad Episode Summary: "Giggling about Past Lives, Witch Trials, and Crutches"

Release Date: October 23, 2024

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Podcast Description: In each episode of Giggly Squad, hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo humorously dissect pop culture, fashion trends, mental health, and personal anecdotes, all while embracing their unmanageable lifestyles.

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1. Revisiting Salem: Exploring Witch Trials

Timestamp Highlight: [03:16] Grace: "Why do we look like we both go to the same prep school?"

Hannah and Grace recount their recent trip to Salem, Massachusetts, fueled by curiosity about the infamous witch trials. Their excitement turns into unexpected revelations as they delve into the historical and personal ramifications of the trials.

• Grace's Insight: Discusses a local woman who attributes the witch trials to property theft and deceit rather than genuine religious fervor.
  “It was all just to, like, steal each other's shit.” — Grace [04:16]

• Hannah's Reflection: Shares their initial perception of being modern-day witches and how the reality was both enlightening and disheartening.
  “We definitely were witches that were burned. The stake in a past life.” — Hannah [03:51]

2. Encounter with the Psychic Medium

Timestamp Highlight: [05:01] Grace: "We were open."

The duo visits a séance room, seeking open-minded spiritual experiences. Their encounter with a psychic medium leads to intense and emotional interactions, revealing insights into their past lives and current struggles.

• Tarot Readings and Past Lives: The psychic begins with tarot cards, accurately pinpointing Hannah’s struggle with mental health.
  “You have to take care of your mental health.” — Psychic [05:18]

• Hannah's Reaction: Skeptical yet intrigued, Hannah questions the medium’s intentions and accuracy.
  “Did you pay this woman off?” — Hannah [06:22]

• Grace's Breakdown: Grace becomes emotional as the medium delves into her past lives, revealing traumatic experiences involving lost children.
  “She was like, Grace is crying at this point.” — Hannah [14:14]

3. Emotional Turmoil and Coping Mechanisms

Timestamp Highlight: [38:10] Hannah: “I really feel like sometimes girls feel like my life is over once my skin starts to sag a little.”

Hannah and Grace discuss their approaches to mental health, emphasizing the importance of self-care and personal growth over superficial appearances.

• Hannah's Perspective: Advocates for working on one's personality and aura rather than solely focusing on physical appearance.
  “Work on your aura and your energy.” — Hannah [38:32]

• Grace's Coping Strategies: Shares her reliance on beta blockers and the placebo effect to manage anxiety, highlighting the necessity of having backup plans.
  “A little bit placebo effect, even though I have been taking them before the shows.” — Grace [38:25]

4. Hilarious Q&A Session Anecdotes

Timestamp Highlight: [33:03] Grace: “You just are being flamboyant.”

During a live show Q&A, audience interactions become a source of laughter and memorable moments.

• Creative Audience Participation: Multiple audience members use crutches as signals for being picked on, leading to a playful and chaotic atmosphere.
  “So many people are raising their crutches to get picked on.” — Hannah [33:47]

• Gary's Cameo: The hosts' father, Gary, makes a surprising and humorous appearance on stage, adding to the show's lively dynamics.
  “He walked off stage.” — Grace [34:16]

5. Nostalgic Tour Memories and NYC Stories

Timestamp Highlight: [59:21] Hannah: “We're talking about Jimmy Joe's... I don’t know.”

Hannah and Grace reminisce about their early days in New York City, sharing funny and relatable stories about navigating the party scene and making lasting friendships.

• Jimmy Joe's Confusion: A humorous exchange about confusing the name of a local establishment highlights their shared memories.
  “We were talking about Jimmy Joe's... I don't know.” — Hannah & Grace [60:04]

• Party Scene Antics: Describes memorable nights at clubs like Bro J's and the Barrel Saloon, emphasizing the blend of fun and chaos that defined their early careers.
  “I met some of my best friends in that bathroom downstairs.” — Grace [61:55]

6. Reflections on Personality vs. Appearance in Dating

Timestamp Highlight: [41:20] Grace: “Why don't you work on your own?”

The conversation shifts to the complexities of modern dating, contrasting American list-oriented approaches with more relaxed European vibes.

• Hannah's Critique: Points out how excessive focus on physical appearance can hinder genuine connections.
  “Have you ever talked to them before?” — Hannah [39:17]

• Grace's Observations: Highlights the difference in dating styles, advocating for prioritizing personal chemistry over superficial criteria.
  “Let's see if we even vibe.” — Grace [42:12]

7. Book Club and Media Recommendations

Timestamp Highlight: [52:36] Grace: “Actually, I did just watch something before I got here...”

Hannah and Grace introduce their book club segment, recommending engaging titles and discussing their latest media discoveries.

• Recommendation Highlight: Discuss a documentary about a South African music band, appreciating the blend of love, ambition, and challenges faced by the artists.
  “They were making music together. Her name is Yolandi.” — Hannah [54:08]

• Media Consumption: Debate the impact of subtitles on humor in stand-up shows, stressing the importance of timing and delivery in comedic performances.
  “The Subtitles give away the joke.” — Grace [52:11]

8. Upcoming Tour Excitement and Final Thoughts

Timestamp Highlight: [63:15] Grace: “I can't tell you how excited I am to go to Madison, Wisconsin.”

The episode wraps up with enthusiasm for their ongoing tour, sharing last-minute anecdotes and expressing gratitude toward their listeners.

• Madison Tour Excitement: Both hosts express their excitement for upcoming shows in Madison and Milwaukee, highlighting the unique energy of each location.
  “The passion for the badgers in this town is unreal.” — Hannah [63:30]

• Listener Engagement: Emphasizes the importance of their community, thanking listeners for their support and participation in making each show memorable.
  “We love you guys.” — Grace [63:57]

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Notable Quotes Highlights

• “Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.” — Hannah [02:01]
• “She said, you have to take care of your mental health.” — Psychic [05:18]
• “Why don't you work on your own?” — Grace [41:20]
• “Have you ever talked to them before?” — Hannah [39:17]
• “The Subtitles give away the joke.” — Grace [52:11]
• “We love you guys.” — Grace [63:57]

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Conclusion

In this episode of Giggly Squad, Hannah and Grace navigate through a blend of historical exploration, spiritual encounters, personal anecdotes, and candid discussions on mental health and social dynamics. Their ability to intertwine humor with heartfelt stories offers listeners an engaging and relatable experience, highlighting the essence of friendship and personal growth amidst life's unpredictabilities.

Transcript

[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Grace]

Easy cleanup.

[Paige]

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[Grace]

Gary, fix your WI fi.

[Hannah]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. Damn, it feels good to be a giggler. We're look, we are mentally, physically and spiritually spent.

[Grace]

Why do we look like we both go to the same prep school? Like I'm a grade older because I have like long sleeves on.

[Hannah]

Why do we always match?

[Grace]

We've been really matching recently.

[Hannah]

It's so weird.

[Grace]

It is really weird.

[Hannah]

We both never wore blue on tour and we both just wear blue in Newark.

[Grace]

No, it doesn't make any sense.

[Hannah]

But Newark was giving blue energy it gives blue.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And now we're both wearing colored shirts like little nerds.

[Grace]

No, we seriously look like we're on, like, the rugby team. You look like you're going through a phase where you're like, mom, I'm growing my hair out.

[Hannah]

No, I hate guys who are like, oh, I'm in the in between stages. I'm like, you've always looked like shit.

[Grace]

Yeah, the in between. I will say, guys do have to get their hair cut so much faster than girls.

[Hannah]

Yeah. But it also takes them, like, 20 minutes.

[Grace]

That's, like, a little bit of admin for them.

[Hannah]

We have to tell you guys a story that we've been saying on our last two live shows. Oh, God. Also, we're gonna be in Milwaukee, Madison, coming up this week. This week, we went to Salem, Massachusetts, because we wanted to see where all the witches were killed.

[Grace]

And.

[Hannah]

I don't know whose idea it was.

[Grace]

Partly what we were expecting, and then partly totally not what I was expecting.

[Hannah]

We went in so excited. We were like. We definitely were witches that were burned. The stake in a past life. Because if you weren't, you were a fucking loser.

[Grace]

Yep.

[Hannah]

And also, we were talking about how witch. A girl just probably gave a guy blue balls once, and he was like, you're a witch.

[Grace]

No, literally, we had this woman who has lived there her whole life who, like, says that she's a witch and, like, does psychic readings and past regressions. And the number one thing she said about, like, the Salem witch trials is it was all just to, like, steal each other's shit.

[Hannah]

It was just, like, about property.

[Grace]

Yeah. Like, it was basically salt laugh. Like, if you got someone else to, like, accuse you of being a witch, they could, like, take your land. So it was all just, like, lying and cheating to, like, get ahead, which is so crazy because they're. They were so religious. Someone commented on our giggly squad. Instagram was like, hillsong is shaking.

[Hannah]

Look, we. We did start a megachurch.

[Grace]

If we start asking you to, like, clap along, be weary, something has gone wrong.

[Hannah]

If we put out an album of songs about giggling and you have to hold hands. So anyway, we go to this room where they do seances. So you knew she was about to get lit. Like, it was about to be crazy. And we were very excited because we love this shit.

[Grace]

Yeah. We were open.

[Hannah]

We were so open. And we even said to the lady.

[Grace]

We were like, say whatever you want. Whatever you feel like. You can't offend us.

[Hannah]

We can handle anything. Like, be honest. Literally, four minutes in, I Was like. I was like, is this that much fun anymore? Like, I kind of want to call my mom.

[Grace]

At one point, I was like, I actually hope you did Google me, because if you didn't, I'm scared. Like, if you didn't listen to every episode of Giggly Squad to get a. Like, figure out what my personality is. I'm scared that you know this much.

[Hannah]

I want to take the gigglers through step by step. So first, she does tarot cards. Yep. And she starts with you. And honestly, I kind of felt like she nailed it.

[Grace]

She nailed it. What did she say again?

[Hannah]

I forget. But I was like, she said, you have to take care of your mental health.

[Grace]

Yeah, she said I had to take care of my mental health. She said that I don't feel emotions for myself, but, like, I can identify them in other people.

[Hannah]

You're the weirdest serial killer ever. You're, like, full of empathy, but not for yourself.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Hannah]

And she was saying, you have to, like, choose between your career and other things. You're very busy right now.

[Grace]

She said, I choose my career a lot, and, like, I always kind of will. And then she said, I have a lot of self. Self worth problems, which. That was a direct attack.

[Hannah]

Direct attack. But then she was like, I recommend for you to feel more grounded, to eat more pasta and cheese. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you pay this woman off?

[Grace]

It felt like that. It truly, truly felt like that. I was like, I feel like my doctor has a few things to say about.

[Hannah]

But I do believe that your ancestors are, like, full of, like, they ate pasta and it is what grounds you.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And she didn't say that to me, but she was like, I think you should slow down on the pasta and cheese.

[Grace]

And I was like, she's like, you're a lactose intolerant.

[Hannah]

No, but hers being so accurate with you was why mine. That was when it started to get a little.

[Grace]

Starting. Yeah, it's starting to turn a little.

[Hannah]

It started to turn because she's putting out cards and it's all silly.

[Grace]

And when I walked in, I was like, I'll go first. And then when I was like, actually, I should have waited.

[Hannah]

So she takes out a card and she goes, ooh. And me being Miss Optimistic was like, this is like the card. Like, this is like, oh, we never get this. You're going to be, like, the happiest ever. Whatever. She goes, there's about four really bad cards in here and I never get them. And we just got one. And I just look at her. She looks at me and she's like, how's your crippling depression? And I was like, okay.

[Grace]

It was like a movie. When she flipped it, it was just, like, all daggers. And she was like, oh.

[Hannah]

She also prefaced it being like, I'm not going to tell you that you're going to die. Yeah, but it's going to be close.

[Grace]

She was like, I'm not going to tell you anything. Like, truly, truly bad, because I can't see. Like, names, dates.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Grace]

And she said that everything, it's not, like, set in stone. Like, you have the power not to prevent things, but to change the narrative, the course of certain things.

[Hannah]

And that's why I think she was amazing. I think she was very accurate. But she literally does this horrible card, and I'm like, no, no, no. I was having a slow morning, and this is a lot to handle. And she was just like, you're gonna have a full mental break, but then after all your dreams are gonna come true. And I was like, okay, so on Monday.

[Grace]

One of my favorite things that she said was that we can't have mental breakdowns in the same timeframe. Like, because it just wouldn't be good for either of us.

[Hannah]

Imagine us in the green room.

[Grace]

If you were, like, dealing with panic attacks and anxiety right now. I'd. I'd have to. We'd have to cancel the tour. There's just no way we'd be able to do it.

[Hannah]

There was a meme about, like, best friends just have to lose their fucking mind on different days.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So then we're already feeling, like, a little open sword. Yeah. Paige is definitely vulnerable. And Paige goes, let's do past life regressions. This is gonna be fun.

[Grace]

Let's clear the energy, clear the air.

[Hannah]

Were we best friends? Was I a princess or a ballerina? I was like. I think I was an Amazonian woman. And she was like, no, let's do a meditation.

[Grace]

First, we have to open our hands up, put them, like, toward the sky.

[Hannah]

We've never been quiet for 10 seconds in a row.

[Grace]

Wait, when you. Okay, wait.

[Hannah]

Were you laughing when I was breathing loud?

[Grace]

No. But I couldn't focus because I was laughing inside. What are you focusing?

[Hannah]

I knew you were, because I was laughing about you listening to me and my deep breathing because you weren't breathing.

[Grace]

Because she was like, okay, close your eyes. Put your palms, like, facing the sky. And then picture a bright purple light, like, going. Did you say going through your head?

[Hannah]

She was like.

[Grace]

Like, going up to the sky. Yeah. Something and, like, shooting out of the atmosphere and whatever. And when she said that, I don't know why, I was just like, I wonder what Hannah's version of that is in her head.

[Hannah]

Because Hannah's never done shrooms, so I was tripping at that point. I was tripping. And what did she say to you?

[Grace]

She was like, I thought that your past life was going to come through first because I'm a Scorpio, which I like, don't. I should have asked, what the fuck does that mean? But I didn't. And she was like, but actually, ha is coming through. So we start with Hannah's. And you.

[Hannah]

She was like, do you like bright colors? And I was like, I think so. And she's like, okay. I think every person you were in a past life was a man. And I was like, no. Why? But then she looks at me and.

[Grace]

She'S like, which, like, you give gay man vibes.

[Hannah]

Well, this is the thing. She goes. She said, you as a woman in this life, don't understand why you can't do things that men do. And that's, like, your purpose in this life. And I was like, literally, nailed it. That's all I care. And I was like, what kind of man? And she goes, a flamboyant British gay man who was very rich, just prancing around.

[Grace]

She kept saying the word dandy, dandy. And I was just like, what the fuck is that?

[Hannah]

And his wife was miserable because he didn't love her, and he was just, like, having anal all over England. And then he eventually met an older man who I truly love, who he truly loves. So I'm like, yes, this is me.

[Grace]

She said, you had an easy life. Like, you had, like, a not.

[Hannah]

Not internal.

[Grace]

You were in the closet.

[Hannah]

I struggled because I was in the closet, but I was fabulous.

[Grace]

And she did say, if anyone found out that you were gay, you would have been killed.

[Hannah]

So it was, like, on the outside, seemed good, but I had some inner turmoil to make myself more easy.

[Grace]

But you were rich. You didn't work.

[Hannah]

Yeah, you. Like, I was fabulous.

[Grace]

You just, like, died of old days.

[Hannah]

So I'm just laughing, envisioning myself, you know, prancing around London, and I'm like. And then I'm like, okay, do Paige. This Paige is there. Do Paige. Was she a ballerina? Tell me what she was.

[Grace]

And, like, we definitely were connected. Like, maybe I was this gay man's best friend, and we just, like, trolloped around.

[Hannah]

Yes, Trolloped.

[Grace]

And she turns to me and she's just like, oh, Okay, I get why your lives, like, weren't, like, coming up really quickly, and it's because they were so sad.

[Hannah]

Like, you were so quiet.

[Grace]

We were so sad.

[Hannah]

And I'm still envisioning myself at the banjo. Like, I'm loving life.

[Grace]

No, Hannah's, like, has a top hat, Is, like, prancing through the street with a cane. Mary Poppins is kissing men in, like, alleyways. And so she's like, you were so sad all of your lives. You were very poor, just sad. And she was like, but your saddest life is you had, like, so many children, and unfortunately, they all died. And I'm just like, jaw on the floor. I'm just like, okay.

[Hannah]

Meanwhile, I'm being gay. And she's like, your kids didn't even die of cholera. Like, it was a sniffle. Like, it was wiped them all out.

[Grace]

And it must have been, like, honestly, it had to have been something like the plague or some type of sickness where they just all got it and then all died at the same time. She said that, like, blamed myself a lot. And I was like, okay, well, like, what did I do after? Like, what was my life after that? And she was like, oh, no, you then died.

[Hannah]

She was like, you died of heartbreak, and it wasn't your fault, but you just couldn't live on. And we were just sitting there, like.

[Grace]

Dying of heartbreak is so main character, though. Like, it's so. You know, it's so crazy is because I feel like every time I've ever heard a story of people that truly do die of heartbreak, I'm like, no, I get it. Like, I've always understood that, because I do feel like your brain and your body are so much more powerful than people think, and, like, it can trick you into, like, no, we're dying.

[Hannah]

Des and I aren't the same age, but if we were, and I died first, if he didn't die immediately after from heartbreak, like, it was fake.

[Grace]

No, true.

[Hannah]

Like, literally forget that we were married. It wasn't real.

[Grace]

No, I. So, like, I believe. I totally believe.

[Hannah]

Well, she even said she's like, do you love kids? And you're like, I love. Like, I'll love my future kid, but right now, I. Like, I don't fuck with kids. And, like, I think it's. She was like, because you're triggered because kids have caused you so much pain in the past.

[Grace]

And then she said. Which was like, grace is crying at this point. Grace is.

[Hannah]

Grace is fully in tears because of. Well, I look over, and she's like.

[Grace]

Ages, babies, just all my children. And she was putting an emphasis on, like, you loved being a mom. Like, being a mom in every life for you was, like, the best thing ever. Like, you loved being a mom. And she was like, and there's this little boy that keeps, like, popping through, basically being like, when you get pregnant, I'm coming back to you. Like, you are.

[Hannah]

My mom kept going, this little boy is ready when. Cause he's gonna be your best friend. Then I started to get emotional.

[Grace]

No, I started to get emotional, too, because I was picturing this little boy being like, come on, Mom. Like, I want to, like, hang out with you again, which is just so freaky.

[Hannah]

And she even said, wear a condom because he's, like, really ready.

[Grace]

No, that was insane.

[Hannah]

And she was like, you love being a mom, Hannah. You love being a bottom.

[Grace]

And then I feel like you also, like, played with wearing jewelry, but you tried to make it in, like, a masculine way. Like, I wish I could.

[Hannah]

I was like, it's a new thing. And they're like, you just are being flamboyant.

[Grace]

I'd love to hear past Hannah's lies to be like, it's not gay.

[Hannah]

And you know what's so funny? People make fun of me that I think everyone's gay.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And I think it's. I feel so connected to the gay community. Like, I can't explain it. Like, I am gay, but I happen to like dick. But I'm gay. But I love dick, but I am so gay. And now it makes sense. But it's funny. Cause I feel like gay men like you.

[Grace]

Cause I love gay men.

[Hannah]

Gay men, the real ones love me, who, like, give me a chance, but, like, first look, they're. Go for Paige.

[Grace]

Well, I think I, like, I think I get along with gay men so well. Because you're a diva. I'm a diva. But I also feel like I don't have that many, like, girly, girly friends that are, like, as girly as I am. And I feel like with gay men, I get the girly vibe with also having. I need a little testosterone. Like, I need a little more. Like.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Grace]

Like, say it how it is.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Grace]

Like, call you out in a minute type energy.

[Hannah]

Yes. But then you're like, okay, let's move on. Did we know each other? Were we best friends in every life? Like, did we. What was our relationship?

[Grace]

I mean, maybe my gay bestie helped me through the drama and, like, gave me some money and, like, helped me out, and she was like, yes. Oh, my gosh. You did know each other. I'm feeling like you work together, and.

[Hannah]

It could have been any life. Not when I was.

[Grace]

I'm like, okay, amazing. Like, we work together. Like, we have, like, always been doing this in lives. We've been, like, coming up with businesses and just, like, making each other laugh.

[Hannah]

She's, like, seeing you making jokes on a stage together.

[Grace]

She's like, hannah stole all your money. And, like, so I have no kids, no prospects. I'm about to croak, and I'm homeless.

[Hannah]

I'm using your money for dild.

[Grace]

I also am envisioning you, like, throwing all these parties and, like, me, like, walking by. It's giving great guts.

[Hannah]

Well, you keep putting it in the same lifetime. She was talking about many different ones, so it possibly wasn't.

[Grace]

I was putting it in, like, the same. I was like, I don't know why I was expecting to get a. Then I started being so introspective about it. Cause I'm like, I wish we got a lifetime that was in, like, this century. Like, I feel like the way she was talking, it was, like, the 1600s. So just my mind kept going there.

[Hannah]

It was really.

[Grace]

Oh, wait, she did say that your, like, soul takes a long time to come back to, like, the physical world.

[Hannah]

Cause she said my lives are, like, stressful. Yeah, but that I love being a soul. Like, up. Yeah, but how you're always on Earth.

[Grace]

Yeah, Like, I come back really quickly. I must, like, be trying to learn something.

[Hannah]

You're trying to find.

[Grace]

Well, it's not gonna happen in this lifetime, let me tell you. I. Maybe next time.

[Hannah]

Wait, that makes so much sense. Cause you're so stubborn. So the universe keeps throwing you back where I'm like.

[Grace]

I feel like my soul is like, no, okay, I'll get it right this time. That's so sad. Give me a minute.

[Hannah]

So, yeah, we got into the Uber. We were quiet for 30 minutes, just processing everything.

[Grace]

Silence. Then I was, like, going back and forth. I was like, okay, is that real? Like, is she real? Because going into it, I'm like, no, I believe in this stuff. And then in the car ride home, I'm like, actually believe in God fully.

[Hannah]

Like, turned to God at the end of it and was like, God, Jesus Christ, if you're here, please just tell me the things that were true. And I'm like, I feel like God, if there's a God, he's busy. Like, he's dealing with wars right now. He's not like, did Paige of Sorbo, like, her Salem reading that told her that she lost all her children. So then the rest of the day.

[Grace]

Wait, wait, we forgot this part. So she's also. She's a psychic medium. So we were like, any. What about, like, the medium stuff? Cause that's truly, like, what I like. And she was like, you guys have a lot of spirits around you. So she goes to me first, and she was like, yours are definitely related to you. And she's, like, kind of explaining things. And I'm like, yes, this could be. And this could be this and this could be that.

[Hannah]

We thought it might be your grandpa.

[Grace]

And I was like, this feels like it's my grandpa for sure. Like, the way she was, like, physically explaining him.

[Hannah]

And I'm looking at Grace being like.

[Grace]

Hannah's like, get ready.

[Hannah]

My grandpa's gonna come.

[Grace]

My grandpa.

[Hannah]

I'm obsessed with grandpa.

[Grace]

I was like, hannah. All Hannah needed to hear was the word grandpa. And she was like, sobbing is here. I'm ready. What does he need to tell me? And she's like, hannah, you have a lot of spirits around you.

[Hannah]

And I was like, I know. Including my grandpa.

[Grace]

And she goes, none of what you know or are related to that. You just have, like, random people.

[Hannah]

She was like, you got a gang. Gang around you. She's like, but she made it like, these spirits are not all good. And she was like, she did. She basically was like, there's a lot of spirits around you all the time. And I'm like, you know, sometimes I'll be in a hotel room and I'll smell a fart. And I'm like, I don't think that was me. Anyway, she goes, you do have, like, this woman who's, like, in her 40s, who. And I, like, didn't know any woman who died. I talked to my mom after.

[Grace]

No way.

[Hannah]

My mom's.

[Grace]

Cause she said, this one does feel like it's related to you.

[Hannah]

Yeah. She said, in her 40s. And I'm like, I don't know any women in my family who died in their 40s. She said, My grandpa's mom's mom died in childbirth. Like, late childbirth. And she had, like, 10 kids. And it was like, she was, like, 37.

[Grace]

Oh, my gosh.

[Hannah]

So it could be her, but she said, she's protecting you from, like, a lot of spirits around you. And then I was like, where's my grandpa?

[Grace]

Okay, not to get, like, too, like, cuckoo. Woo, woo, Whatever. When I moved into my last apartment, like, in Midtown, there were these, like. The day I moved in, there were these two birds that sat on my balcony the entire day I moved in. And I was like, oh, that's like. I believe in that stuff. I feel like that's a sign. And then when I moved into my new apartment, like, the days after I moved in, I had two pigeons that literally didn't leave my, like, window sill. And so I truly do feel like that's, like, spirits and stuff.

[Hannah]

I do have kind of a crazy story also.

[Grace]

New York City is overloaded with pigeons.

[Hannah]

There's also a pigeon problem in New York City, and they think they own everything. I had a weird story about, like, DEZ and I have this house that in West Hampton that this previous family owned, and they were really, like, this beautiful family. And they gave us this letter when we got the house about how, like, the son had passed away in the family and how he, like, loved tennis and he also loved, like, Hollywood and stuff, and how, like, he would have been so happy that, like, we're the people that are in the house.

[Grace]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

And the first day we're in the house, we look outside in the backyard, and there's a fox, like, running through. And, like, you don't see foxes in the daytime.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, it's not a thing. And my mom was there, and I'm like, mom, are foxes, like, all over West Hampton? She's like, this is very weird. And from that day, we never saw a fox again. And she thinks it was the brother saying, like, welcome.

[Grace]

Wait. Like, running on the tennis court.

[Hannah]

Running on the tennis court.

[Grace]

Wait. That's insane.

[Hannah]

And, like, I've never believe in that. I was there all summer. I never saw a fox again.

[Grace]

I believe in that stuff when it's good and when it's bad. I believe in God.

[Hannah]

We believe in God, we turn to God. But the rest.

[Grace]

I did say a prayer before we went in there.

[Hannah]

Yeah, you were trying to protect us.

[Grace]

Because I was like, I don't need any spirits coming home with us. I have enough demons that I can visualize, see, and interact with the rest of the day.

[Hannah]

Like, whenever we made fun of Paige, she was like, my children died. My children perish. And then whenever you made fun of me, I was like, please don't be homophobic. Like, please keep your homophobia to yourself. Literally. This is insane.

[Grace]

No, when she started saying, like, oh, my God, you love fashion. You love bright colors.

[Hannah]

I know. I was like, I think I'm lazy with outfits nowadays because I put so much effort into fashion when I was.

[Grace]

A dandy and I've been a woman in Every life.

[Hannah]

Yes. You were a suffragette.

[Grace]

I was a suffragette. She said that I fought for women's rights.

[Hannah]

That's why you're so tired. This life, I get it.

[Grace]

It's like, how many years can I be doing it?

[Hannah]

Speaking of, everyone vote.

[Grace]

I literally just sent in my absentee ballot.

[Hannah]

I have to get my absentee ballot from the mail, which we talked about.

[Grace]

I'm gonna be honest mail.

[Hannah]

What are you about to say?

[Grace]

Like, I'm not stupid, but when you have something from the government come to your home, I don't know why, it feels like if you mess it up, the police will knock on your door.

[Hannah]

Like, immediately, no, it's citizen homework. And you feel like you're gonna fail.

[Grace]

I'm like, what if I write in the wrong spot? I had to reread it. It's literally three steps, and I reread it seven times to make sure I signed my signature where I was supposed to sign my signature. Because all I could picture is someone in a registrar's office, like, opening it and being like, she's an idiot. While I was doing it. I was like, there are so many people that, like, open this up and are like, no, absolutely not. Like, absolutely not.

[Hannah]

No government. No one prepares you for government stuff. Famously, my first job. Do you remember the first time you ever had to fill out, like, a.

[Grace]

W2 or 9 or something?

[Hannah]

And one of the questions was, do you want to pay city tax? I thought it was like, how do you feel? So I was like, I don't want to know. So I checked out the box. So so fast forward, I had, like, an accountant do my taxes, and I was making, like, no money at the time, and he called me, and he's like, are you sitting down? And I was like, why? And he goes, you owe the government $6,000. And I was like, why? And he goes, you checked. You didn't want to pay city taxes. Don't you know you have to pay city taxes? I go, I thought they were asking, like, if I wanted to.

[Grace]

I thought they were asking my opinion.

[Hannah]

That was really tax.

[Grace]

You're literally legally blonde. You're like, delaware, no sales tax. That's a good one.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God. So now my dad will not let me live it down. But look, they should. Like, that's. What was I going to say? Yes, I don't want to pay it?

[Grace]

No. It's literally the same as when, like, you first start taking standardized tests as, like, a little kid. And, like, filling those out used to give me such anxiety. I Don't know why.

[Hannah]

When you go out of the box.

[Grace]

When you had to bubble in each letter of your name, they were like.

[Hannah]

If you get the circle wrong, like, it doesn't count and you get.

[Grace]

You're upset and like, people in your class that, like, their name was too long to fit in all the squares and it like, I was like, oh my God, that's a crazy journey. I can't even.

[Hannah]

Yeah. PTSD from school.

[Grace]

No PTSD from school.

[Paige]

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[Grace]

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[Paige]

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[Grace]

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[Paige]

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[Grace]

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[Paige]

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[Grace]

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[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

Oh also shout out Something very funny happened at the live shows. My favorite memory was we do a Q and A at the end and there's always a wide variety of questions. Some girls raise their hand. They don't think they're gonna get picked on. They do. They're like, I don't have a question. I didn't know I was gonna get picked.

[Grace]

Honestly, the Q and A is so giggly quoted. It's so chaotic and I wouldn't want it to be any other way because it's truly, it's truly like being in school and you're not paying attention, and all the kids are drunk, and all of a sudden, the teacher asks you a question. You.

[Hannah]

So then one girl did, like. She just tore us apart, like, in the funniest way. She was like, let's do a. Never have I ever. Have you ever shot yourself in a bodega? Have you ever cried on reality tv? We were like, okay, okay, okay.

[Grace]

I forgot about that.

[Hannah]

And then some girls would just tell, like, crazy stories.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Or, like, take a dig at my.

[Grace]

Outfit, which I give girls a lot of credit because. To stand up in front of 3,000 people that you don't know and tell your deepest, like, darkest thing that's happened. Someone stood up and told us their worst sex story ever. And we were like, this is a Q and A. Yeah.

[Hannah]

But then afterwards, everyone laughed really hard, and I was like, I was nervous for you, and you nailed it.

[Grace]

No, she did a great job.

[Hannah]

My favorite moment is I'm looking like, Grace is picking people. They're raising their hands, and then I see a crutch. Someone took their crutch and was just pointing it in the air for Grace to pick on them.

[Grace]

It was like multiple people on crutches.

[Hannah]

And then another person starts putting their crutch. And then someone tagged us on Instagram with crutches. And they go, I wasn't sure if I was Hannah or Paige coded. And I realized I'm Des Cod.

[Grace]

Wait, that's so.

[Hannah]

So many people are raising their crutches to get picked on, Which I respect. I like a little creativity.

[Grace]

No, the girls have been amazing.

[Hannah]

Craig made a cameo.

[Grace]

Craig made a cameo. My parents made a cameo.

[Hannah]

Can you tell them what your dad said? Okay, well, before I look up, I look to him, by the way, I'm the one that's like, let's get these people on stage. And Paige is like, we don't need to complicate things. And I'm like, no, it's hilarious.

[Grace]

So I'm like, I don't want to stress anyone out. I don't want to add more admin to any. I don't like, See, I'm.

[Hannah]

I like to.

[Grace]

And you're like, let's see what happens.

[Hannah]

Let's fuck shit up.

[Grace]

I'm like, let's plan it.

[Hannah]

So I'm like, gary, do you want to go on stage? And Paige is like, look, I don't think he could handle that. And he's like, what?

[Grace]

He said, what are you talking about?

[Hannah]

I freaking go out there. I could go out there.

[Grace]

Come on. Don't go out on this. And I'm like, okay, dad, I'm just going to let you know, I've resorted to medicine for this exact reason, so I'm gonna go with your flow. But.

[Hannah]

But he's so cute. He watches the whole show backstage.

[Grace]

I can feel him pacing backstage.

[Hannah]

I'm making eye contact. He's always in a different spot backstage. But smiling. He's laughing.

[Grace]

He's also. So dad coded in terms of, like. I can feel him looking at the way the lights are put up in the ceiling. Looking at all, like, the different, like, technician things that are happening. Yeah.

[Hannah]

He's our creative director who doesn't speak.

[Grace]

No, truly.

[Hannah]

So he's watching and we do. It was at one point in the Izzy trash. And I was like, let's bring out someone who isn't trash. Oh, we talk about the dads.

[Grace]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hannah]

And I go, let's bring out Gary Desorbo. He comes out and there's a roar.

[Grace]

Uproar.

[Hannah]

An uproar. He Deer in the headlights. Yep.

[Grace]

I could see his face get immediately white, immediately pale.

[Hannah]

And then I kind of offer him the mic to say, like, what's up, Gigglers? He immediately do.

[Grace]

At least say hi.

[Hannah]

Just hi. You don't have to give a speech.

[Grace]

No. You don't have to crack a joke.

[Hannah]

Just say, what's up, Gigglers. He immediately runs off stage.

[Grace]

No, no. He literally puts his hand up. Like, don't even think about handing me that microphone. I came out for a week. He was Princess Diana at our show. He was our Princess Diana. He came out, he waved, he walked off.

[Hannah]

He walked off. We go downstairs.

[Grace]

I go, what?

[Hannah]

What happened?

[Grace]

What happened? What? I thought you were going to do a big grand finale. I thought you were Countess Luanne and your show was. Cabaret was starting next. He was like, wow, that was scary. That was. You gotta be different to do that.

[Hannah]

I go, yeah, I'm mentally ill, Truly.

[Grace]

We get back the next night. I'm, like, getting a little anxious before. And he goes, you know, just pretend you're Frank Sinatra and Hannah's Dean Martin. I go, you want us to be drunk men from the 60s who perform Christmas songs like, what? What is the corre between us and the Rat Pack of, like. I don't. I'm like, were you even born? I'm like, I know that I wasn't.

[Hannah]

That was the most Italian shit you.

[Grace]

Could have ever said. He couldn't think of any other, like, current celebrities that go out on a stage. He went fully old school.

[Hannah]

You're Frank I'm dean. First of all, maybe we were Frank Sinatra and de Martin in a past life.

[Grace]

Honestly, you never know. But I know that I wasn't French royalty, which is what I really hope.

[Hannah]

You're really upset.

[Grace]

I'm just like, I'm a little let down by myself. You know, I'm like, a little like, you're disappointed.

[Hannah]

You're disappointed.

[Grace]

I'm disappointed in myself.

[Hannah]

We did have so much fun at the shows, and you crushed it. Like, you're feeling yourself again. You're doing great.

[Grace]

No, I'm definitely feeling a lot better. I. I can't say enough good things about beta blockers. And also, I think knowing here's another thing that I truly do believe, like, a little bit placebo effect, even though I have been taking them before the shows. And, like, I recommend if you do feel like this, like, taking them before you, like, have to talk at work or, like, whatever. Even knowing I have them in my bag.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Grace]

Is like, another comfort I. Which is true to my personality. I need a backup plan. You know, if there's one thing about me, I need to have multiple escape routes. Like, I don't know if in a past life I was trapped somewhere, because I need to know I can leave, go home, sedate myself at any point.

[Hannah]

It's all, like, playing games with yourself. Because anxiety is like, you're playing a game with your own mind, but you're losing. This is actually kind of blunt and fucked up. But, like, I was walking here and I thought about it. Cause I was thinking about the patriarchy. I think about how TikTok and all these places are just, like, telling women, like, all the things we have to do physically for ourselves, like, with our hair and our skin and our bodies and da, da, da. And I'm like, whatever happened to focusing about your personality? Wait, whatever happened to, like, working on your aura and your energy.

[Grace]

No.

[Hannah]

That you bring to the function. Cause I swear to God, the rest, like, really comes with it.

[Grace]

Right?

[Hannah]

Like, you know how many people look so pretty on Instagram and are so shitty? And, like, you're like, how could that person be single? And it's like, have you ever talked to them before?

[Grace]

Have you ever looked at pictures of yourself, like, when you were true, truly having, like, a really good time, and you look way prettier than times that, like, you're smiling in the picture, but you weren't having a good time and, like, you look uglier.

[Hannah]

Yes. No, it's fucking real. And I do think there's so many people that are working so hard on their looks when it's like, work on like, like listen to funny podcasts. Surround yourself with interesting people that make you feel good about yourself.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Consume content that's positive and interesting. Get a passion for something. Get a cat. Like, these things enhance your.

[Grace]

Like, this is just a speech to say to subliminally message. Message the gigglers to get cats.

[Hannah]

What I'm saying it. Like, do things enhance your aura? And like, it really does help because I really feel like sometimes girls feel like my life is over once. Like, my skin starts to like, sag a little. And it's like, have you ever seen Meryl Streep? That bitch is glowing.

[Grace]

Truly, truly glowing. I also feel like we are doing that on tour because we've been pushing ourselves to go and like, do something in whatever city we're in. And I'm like, proud about.

[Hannah]

No, I'm actually so proud because normally I'm just in the hotel room. Like, you know, in your own thoughts. You're sleeping.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

But I do have to say, when you're doing the self care shit, it's equally as important to like, fulfill your stuff.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Fill your cup.

[Grace]

As you said something before and then I was going to say something.

[Hannah]

Now I forgot I said something about aura. Put work on your personality. That's the meanest shit just came mad. No, but no one ever works on their personality. No one ever does. When actually that's the reason 95% of people are single.

[Grace]

That phrase is not said enough. Like in therapy. Why don't you work on your own? Like, work on your personality.

[Hannah]

One thing that I love about Irish and British people is they're obsessed with chat or like the crack.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Which is like, they'll meet someone. And having good crack means, like, you can make fun of yourself and you don't take yourself seriously and you have good back and forth. And you ever date a guy and you're like, he's great, but he's missing something.

[Grace]

He's missing the curve. Yes. Well, I feel like Americans, I don't want to make this an American English thing, but I feel like Americans are very list oriented, especially when we date. Because I feel like as women, we're so organized. So when we are dating, we're like, do we have this? Do we have that? Do we have. Great. Scientifically, this should work where maybe Europeans are a little bit more lax and they're like, no, let's. Let's see if we even vibe.

[Hannah]

Let's see what the vibe where we're.

[Grace]

More like we need to accomplish.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Work on your vibe and less on your pore. Like, how big your pores are. Yeah, that's, like, my advice.

[Grace]

Also, I love working on how big my pores are.

[Hannah]

Well, because I feel like you like to put all your anxiety into your skin.

[Grace]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Like, you're like, if this mask will solve all my problems.

[Grace]

And then you're like, I literally, before we started recording, wrote on my to do list tonight, overnight masks. Yeah.

[Hannah]

That's not fixing anything. Nothing.

[Grace]

I make this, like, you told me to work on my stress levels all overnight mask tonight.

[Hannah]

Anyway, what is this overnight mask? If the gigglers are interested, it's that.

[Grace]

TikTok one, but I get mine on Amazon.

[Hannah]

Is it the one that, like, peels off?

[Paige]

This is my.

[Grace]

This is where there are certain moments where I'm like, ugh, I'm, like, such a millennial. And, like, you know how it's like, millennials need to do big purchases on a desktop. Like, we have to book, like, flights on. Okay. My version of that is I can't really buy things on TikTok shop because I feel like it's fake.

[Hannah]

So do I.

[Grace]

So, like, I'll get the thing I want on TikTok shop, and then I'll go to Amazon, type it in and buy it from Amazon.

[Hannah]

Or I buy it on Instagram Shop.

[Grace]

Instagram Shop. I've only ever purchased, like, clothes, and it's really connected to, like, my Revolve account.

[Hannah]

Yes, exactly. Also, I have a question for you, because some people read books, which I'm very impressed by.

[Grace]

I'm so proud of them.

[Hannah]

But I was thinking, who's reading more? These people who read books or me putting captions on every TV show? Closed captions. Am I reading more? Does that count? No one talks about it, but bitch has been reading.

[Grace]

Okay. I'm so glad you're bringing this to the forefront, especially during this time in our nation. Alex Cooper somewhere, interviewing Kamala, and we're like, have we really dissected?

[Hannah]

I actually was going to advertise the hug to a girl, but it was like the day Alex Cooper was doing Kamala, because I was going to be like, I got the best interview ever. And then I was like, oh, wait, don't forget what you were gonna. You were gonna say something important. You literally set it all up.

[Grace]

What were we talking about? My brain is fried.

[Hannah]

I do have to. I'll say one thing while you're remembering.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Hannah]

The hawk to a girl. I did her podcast. She is my favorite because, like, I actually was off TikTok during the week she went viral. So when I got back on it was people just commenting about how she's so viral. And I was kind of fascinated by it. She was, like, working at a factory. Like, living in the middle of nowhere in Tennessee, working at a factory.

[Grace]

Like, what kind of factory?

[Hannah]

I don't know the details.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Hannah]

She had quit college and she was just out with her friends. And then she says this funny thing, haktua on that thing, and laughs.

[Grace]

I don't think this is kind of crazy. I don't think I've ever even seen the original video.

[Hannah]

No. Because it grew bigger than itself so quickly.

[Grace]

But.

[Hannah]

But I met her and, like, she's just like this sweet, naturally very funny person. But it's funny. They took the video and made it this, like, sexual thing.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

When it's like I told she's for the girls, like, that's something we would say. And the girls would die laughing. And me and her were joking. Cause I don't like spit. I think spit is, like, disgusting. And.

[Grace]

Yeah, you do hate it. I hate it.

[Hannah]

And then we were talking about orgasms and all this. It just like. I was like, this is the world you were in. But unfortunately it turned into, like, you being objectified by all these dudes. And anyway, just shout out to her. She's actually. She's funny, she's charitable, and she's just, like, trying to survive.

[Grace]

Wow. I've never heard you describe someone as charitable. And that was really nice. She donates.

[Hannah]

She literally was like, she donates all her money.

[Grace]

That's so nice.

[Hannah]

And she was like, I never had money. Now that I'm making some money, I wanna give it to people in need. And meanwhile, people are giving her hate on the Internet for getting famous. And I'm like, there's worse famous people out there than the hawk to a girl.

[Grace]

You know what I hate is when people are like, we're making. Making the wrong people famous. Who do you want famous? Give me someone that you want famous. Like, shut up.

[Hannah]

Yeah. And also, it's like, everyone's famous nowadays.

[Grace]

Everyone's famous.

[Hannah]

If you want to be famous, you can be famous. Just start posting.

[Grace]

Make a TikTok.

[Hannah]

Make one TikTok. And it's fine.

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[Hannah]

Did you remember what you were going to say when you said the country is in shambles?

[Grace]

Okay. The country is divided right now into two very distinct groups. One group is people that love. What's it called? Subtitles. Subtitles. People that love subtitles. And then it's people that are so purely enraged by them, they can't. They can't watch the show. If you're a subtitles person, yes.

[Hannah]

DEZ hates the subtitles.

[Grace]

I identify as a subtitles person because, you know, I'm multitasking. I'm looking up. I'm. Maybe something on my phone is also going off at the same time. I need to, like.

[Hannah]

It gives us two ways to understand information.

[Grace]

I'm not great at critical thinking. I'm not great at.

[Hannah]

What's it called when you're processing anything?

[Grace]

I'm not high, but, like, I literally feel high.

[Hannah]

Consuming. Oh, focusing on one thing.

[Grace]

No, I'm not good at forming sentences. What's it called? Reading comprehension.

[Hannah]

Oh, so it's like.

[Grace]

So I need to hear it, and I also need to read it.

[Hannah]

DEZ said he did that in China when he was learning Mandarin. He put it. So you're, like, learning English?

[Grace]

I'm learning my first language again. I'm falling in love with relearning my first language.

[Hannah]

This is gonna sound dumb, but I was watching Slow Horses and it's like this British show that's really complicated. Spies. And they speak really fast. I'm putting the subtitles.

[Grace]

The only thing I'm putting subtitles in. And me and my brother have talked about this because he's also a fan of subtitles, is when we watch standups.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Because stand up. The st. The Subtitles give away the joke.

[Grace]

Yeah, it gives away the joke. It ruins the whole.

[Hannah]

It ruins the timing. You're so fucking right.

[Grace]

But if you're watching anything else, I think it adds to it.

[Hannah]

Yeah, 100%. Because I actually think we've missed a lot.

[Grace]

So many shows.

[Hannah]

We know. Like, we are avid bookworms. So. Anyway, welcome to our book club. Today we recommend. What are we recommending?

[Grace]

Actually, I did just watch something before I got here, and it was so U coded. I was like, really sweet, Bobby. It's.

[Hannah]

Oh, is that the.

[Grace]

The girl that got catfished?

[Hannah]

I was trying to watch it last night, and I passed out before it started.

[Grace]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

It's really good. Wait, I'm so excited.

[Grace]

I'm gonna watch it tonight, basically. Get. She doesn't.

[Hannah]

Don't give away what happens, okay?

[Grace]

She doesn't just get catfished. She gets catfished by, like, a whole. By like, a whole ring of, like, people.

[Hannah]

Like, times.

[Grace]

It's just. No, they're all connected. They're all in on it, but it's all the catfish.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Grace]

So she has this whole network of people of, like, guy friends, female friends, like family members of the friends. Oh.

[Hannah]

They created a new universe for her.

[Grace]

Yes. Like an alternate reality. And it was just this one catfish, and it was, like, 10 years of this woman's life, and it's. And then when you figure out, like, who it is, it's so crazy. You're going to love it.

[Hannah]

Wow. I'm really excited to watch it. I know it was a successful podcast back in the day.

[Grace]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Hannah]

I actually watched. I think it was on Amazon. Do you know who Diane. Word is no. Diane.

[Grace]

No.

[Hannah]

Do you know who they are? Chris. Oh, look at Chris.

[Grace]

You just said giggly for a second.

[Hannah]

So they're this South African music band, okay. And it's this guy who's a rapper named Ninja.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Hannah]

And the girl, all I can think of is, like, what's her name?

[Grace]

90 Day Fiance. The one behind that was Soldier Boy. It's like, we already have a Soldier Boy. Nobody brought that up enough. Nobody brought that up enough.

[Hannah]

You can't just be Walmart Soldier Boy.

[Grace]

Yeah. You can't just. Like, we already have one.

[Hannah]

There's a Jiggly Squad. So it's Ninja and this girl. They fall in love and they love making music together. Her name is Yolandi. Yeah. So she has this high, really cool voice, and he's a rapper. So they are making music together. And they're broke. They have no money. And they're just making music. Makes nothing special.

[Grace]

They love each other.

[Hannah]

Love each other. They. She gets pregnant, still have no money. They have a baby.

[Grace]

Perfect.

[Hannah]

No money. Have a baby making music. And they're just obsessed with music.

[Grace]

But, like, are they working?

[Hannah]

No, I think she might have been working.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Hannah]

So then they're really trying to make.

[Grace]

Their dreams come true in the music industry. In the music industry.

[Hannah]

So then she sees this guy, and she thinks he's really cool. He has, like, a certain, like, aesthetic to him. And Ninja gets jealous that she thinks this guy's cool. So then he changes his whole aesthetic to be, like, this guy. And it's a vic. There's like, a. I forget what it is. And they kind of lean into this, like, new identity of theirs, and they make this new kind of sound. They put it out. This was, like, back in the day, like, 07 or 08. So they put it out on the Internet just, like, on a website, and nothing happens. And then a couple days later, it starts to pop off. Like, it starts to go viral.

[Grace]

A song.

[Hannah]

A song and a music video. And they put all their money into it. It blows up so big. It's called Enter the Ninja. Everyone should watch it. They're crazy. Like, it's, like, weird and dark, but, like, artsy.

[Grace]

It's like, how old are they at this time?

[Hannah]

I think they're in their 20s. I think they're in 20s. And I know this happened at, like, 2008. 2009. By 2013, I was watching it on YouTube. So it took a while to get to, like, America.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Hannah]

But they blew up.

[Grace]

Wait, I need to see a picture of them.

[Hannah]

It's crazy.

[Grace]

No, I don't like them.

[Hannah]

So. No. They're, like, wild. So they start getting, like, all this hate.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because people are like, this is weird. This is bad for South Africa. But they're blowing up. They go. They're doing all this stuff together, and then they're finally famous and rich. The dreams come true, but they're breaking up because they start getting jealous of each other. Of each other. And then, long story short, they end up back together. And it was a beautiful love story and a good documentary, and they're very.

[Grace]

So it's just about their life.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Grace]

But it's just gonna say one of them dies.

[Hannah]

And, like, I know that was. That wasn't fun. No one died. No. I'm so sorry.

[Grace]

No one freaking died.

[Hannah]

But it's also from the lens of their daughter telling the story, and the daughter actually got them back together.

[Grace]

Oh, she did a little parent trap.

[Hannah]

But isn't it so. It's so funny to me when people are, like, poor and their dreams aren't coming true, but their relationship and then their dreams come true, and they're rich and you think it solves everything, but it actually is the worst thing for their relationship.

[Grace]

No, I still can't really, like, love Chris. What's his name? Chris. Shoot. Who is married to Anna Faris. Chris Pratt. I don't know why they're such a spec. Like, they're not even that. I feel like they weren't even, like, that famous of a couple that they've, like, stuck in my brain that, like, she was more famous, then he popped off, and then he left her. Like, I will just never get over that.

[Hannah]

Fame changes things. But I also think it depends if you like to party.

[Grace]

You're so right.

[Hannah]

I think it's the people that like to party that it changes things. Because otherwise, if you just stay in your house, nothing changes.

[Grace]

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

[Hannah]

Nothing changes. If you don't change your location, nothing.

[Grace]

Changes if you don't turn your location off.

[Hannah]

No.

[Grace]

Like, once you've walked through the door of, like, I don't party anymore, you really can't go back. And anyone who's still there, you can't. Like, so you're like, sorry, we don't have the same interests.

[Hannah]

There's this whole life of, like, people wanting to get famous, so they get, like, tables at clubs. Like, I've never even tried to get a table except at my bachelorette. Which you got.

[Grace]

Yeah. Because when I first moved to New York, I was like, my goal is to go to every single club. If I. If the doorman doesn't know me at every club, I'm a loser.

[Hannah]

The only doormen who knew me were in Murray Hill because I would watch fantasy football on Sundays at Jimmy John's. Jimmy John. Wait, and Haley worked there as a bartender.

[Grace]

Would that have been. Tell me what year you would have gone.

[Hannah]

2016, 2017. Every Sunday. And Haley worked there as a bartender. And when I'd go on a date.

[Grace]

2016, 2017, 2018. Oh, okay. So I would have been there 2015, 2016.

[Hannah]

Okay. We could have overlapped. And I would bring a date there and not tell them I knew the bartender, and she would, like, judge the date.

[Grace]

Why was Jimmy John's.

[Hannah]

Jimmy John's.

[Grace]

Why was Jimmy John's. Your entrance into the New York City party scene, where it was like, I.

[Hannah]

Love how that's where I Started and ended, though.

[Grace]

That's where I started and ended. And I feel like that's where I started. And I took a real turn to be like, I'm a club rat. You'll never see me at a bar like this ever again.

[Hannah]

It's like weed. It's a.

[Grace]

It's a gateway drug.

[Hannah]

It's a gateway drug. But it. Cause it was all just like.

[Grace]

Because it was so many guys concentrated in one spot, you couldn't go anywhere else that had this many dumb.

[Hannah]

It's because I had two dumb roommates who. We were on flag football teams. We were on volleyball teams. So we'd go to Jimmy John's. Jimmy John? Not Jimmy John's. Is it called Jimmy John's? I don't know.

[Grace]

Did we actually just make up that name?

[Hannah]

Jimmy John's is a sandwich company.

[Grace]

Wait, what are we talking about? What are we talking. But here's the crazy thing. We're talking about the same place.

[Hannah]

What if I'm just talking about a sandwich? I hung out. Subway.

[Grace]

Where the are we talking about?

[Hannah]

We're talking about. What did you say before? Jimmy Joe's. Christy, you don't know what we're talking about. You guys are of the age. You should be there.

[Grace]

You know why I love Giggly Squad so much? Because once you leave college, you know, like when you're in college and you have, like, a hungover next day, and everything's funny, and you're just like, I never want to leave this place. Like, this is the best day of my life. Like, we're all in our jammies eating food and like, everybody's no responsibilities. No one cares about you. That is Giggly Squad. It's like that hungover next morning where you're. You're not sick. You're just silly, but you're a little.

[Hannah]

Sick in the head. But we're thinking it's cute.

[Grace]

And if you have a moment of silence and you think back to everything you've ever done, you're like, ooh, that's.

[Hannah]

Did you ever go to Bonk?

[Grace]

I didn't go to Bonk.

[Hannah]

It's called bank, but they spelled it B, A, N, Q, U, E. And it was like on the corner of Bro J's. Bro J's brother Jimmy's. Yes. Have we recorded Jimmy John's Bro J's brother Jimmy's. Wait, you were there?

[Grace]

Yeah, I was there.

[Hannah]

Were you on. In Murray Hill? That one?

[Grace]

Yes. Yes. And, like, around the corner was, like, the Barrel Saloon, where, like, everyone that was.

[Hannah]

Would you ever go Downstairs and, like, shoot the basketball.

[Grace]

I met some of my best friends in that bathroom downstairs. I feel like. I fear that's where, like, that's where my party. Oh, my God. I love going out, meeting girls in the bathroom.

[Hannah]

That bathroom, the Bro J's bathroom was.

[Grace]

Then, like, there was, like, 205 Club.

[Hannah]

See, I never went to the clubs because I don't like loud music.

[Grace]

Like a real club. It was, like, in a basement. But I think I feel like it was like, Bro gyms and then, like, Bro gyms. Two years. It was like Bro J's.

[Hannah]

Haley was a bartender there.

[Grace]

That's crazy. I definitely met Haley then. I feel like at some point.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Wow. Wow. You ever think of, like, our whereabouts? Like, I want to see it written down. Manhattan. Of us from the moment you moved to Manhattan. Like, where we were every day. And if we ever were, like, in the same building or, like, walk down.

[Grace]

The street, you just want, like, a love story of us. It's like, what is our invisible string theory?

[Hannah]

No. As Kim said.

[Grace]

What are you wearing? The wise words of my mother. What the fuck are you wearing?

[Hannah]

Kim liked my outfit recently, so I'm on a high, but she'll bring you right back to Earth.

[Grace]

She. Oh, yeah.

[Hannah]

Keeps me on my toes. I want to impress her, but I also know that part of her thinks it's cute when I don't dress well.

[Grace]

Yeah, she loves that. She loves you being you.

[Hannah]

Anyway, you guys, thank you so much for giggling with us. We had a lot of, you know, tour recaps to do. We're having so much fun on the tour. Madison Goers. Milwaukee.

[Grace]

I can't tell you how excited I am to go to Madison, Wisconsin.

[Hannah]

I'm gonna, like, be annoying, like, when we be like, that corner. No. Did this. No.

[Grace]

I want you to be that restaurant.

[Hannah]

We did this.

[Grace]

I want you to be. I'm, like, very excited. I feel like I've been saying badger, go badgers for four years of my life.

[Hannah]

Now when I tell you, like, the passion for the badgers in this town is unreal.

[Grace]

Like, it's crazy. Do you guys have a live badger? Do you have any statues of badgers?

[Hannah]

We have statues all over the place of badgers. And I don't think PETA allowed, like, an actual badger.

[Grace]

Oh, okay.

[Hannah]

I think they're also, like, very dangerous.

[Grace]

Oh, yeah. The African honey badger. Heck freaking yeah. They are scariest animal in the world.

[Hannah]

We literally used to say that we're, like, our badgers scariest animal. Google it. African honey badger. Rip your fucking head off. Like, okay, it's a rodent.

[Grace]

Imagine it was like the New York City hippos. Hippopotamus are actually super fucking dangerous. Read a book. Okay. Thank you, guys.

[Hannah]

We love you guys.

[Grace]

Bye.