Giggling about perfectionism, parties, and padel

Summary

Giggly Squad – "Giggling about perfectionism, parties, and padel"

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: May 22, 2026

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Overview

This lively episode dances through a blend of candid humor and heartfelt friendship, as Hannah and Paige dig into their personal quirks—perfectionism, their love/hate relationship with parties, and the nuanced differences between “padel” and “pickleball.” Via relatable tangents, the duo lay bare their experiences with friendship, self-doubt, femininity, and pop culture, all while roasting themselves and each other. The episode's true power lies in its moments of authenticity, vulnerability, and endless laughter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Friendship, Perfectionism, and Creative Anxiety

• Paige congratulates Hannah on her comedy special, describing the real marker of friendship as feeling your friend’s stress as your own, even admitting she became "a fan" during Hannah’s big moment (02:18).
• Hannah reveals her perfectionist tendencies as she obsesses over the tiniest details in podcast clips and edits, fully admitting:

  “When I fail, I fail fast. I love to move. I love change. I will pivot. I'm a pivoter.” (04:50)

• They both riff on the behind-the-scenes madness of editing content for their audience:
  • Paige: “Grace picks the most diabolical screenshots of me, and I'm like, Grace, act like you've met me before.” (05:10)
  • Hannah: “Grace thinks you're beautiful in every angle. That's why.” (05:15)

2. Linguistics, Filler Words, and Taking Up Space

• Paige shares a TikTok about why women use “like,” citing a linguistics study that women employ filler words to avoid interruption:

  “Women don't get to talk a lot, so we actually put filler words in…if there is a sentence silence…typically the other person will immediately start talking. So we almost have to add in filler words to keep our place, to let the other person know we are not done speaking.” (08:02)

• Hannah gets unexpectedly emotional:

  “We're trying to take up space. Why am I getting emotional, like, right now?” (08:41)

3. Tennis & Padel vs. Pickleball

• Hannah clears the air: She plays padel, not pickleball, emphasizing the cosmopolitan vibe of padel:

  “Paddle's European, which makes it cool…It's cultured. It's way more advanced than pickleball.” (15:18)

• They playfully roast pickleball, call it "for kids," and reminisce about youth sports.

4. Household Roles, Cleaning, and Upbringing

• Confessions on chores and cleaning: Both muse over family dynamics, where gender roles and busy child-athlete schedules limited their experience with chores.
• Hannah admits:

  “Did you just say cleaning takes initiative?…When you grow up in Italian households where the women take over…I'm never used to taking that initiative.” (10:49)

• The duo joke about being “feminists” as justification for not doing dishes, and about their difference in dishwasher technique (“It’s like Tetris!”).

5. Crashing Bachelorette Parties (Girls’ Girl of the Week)

• Paige recounts a Daphne-sponsored bachelorette party surprise, uncovering a maid of honor who was, in fact, just the bride pretending:

  “I love a type A girl that's like, actually, I'll just do it myself.” (19:00)

• On navigating party surprises, Paige shares her nerves and the joy of well-coordinated group emails, PowerPoints for outfit planning, and the resourcefulness of women (22:26).

6. Zoom Meeting Antics

• The two roast each other over their Zoom personalities:
  • Paige: “Ms. Performative Hannah's in the zoom doing performative chin grabs like she's contemplating a goddamn thing.” (25:24)
  • Hannah: “I'm an active listener. I'm, look, I'm an empath. And when someone's speaking and no one's reacting…I have to give them a little positivity.” (26:18)
• They riff on the relatable fatigue and awkwardness of virtual meetings.

7. Fashion: Swimwear, Price Gouging & Gender (In)Equality

• Bikini sticker shock:

  “$195 for not the full bikini—for the bottoms.” (33:12)

• They vent about the absurdity of luxury swimwear, questionable markups, and the “pink tax,” comparing it to how little men have to deal with:

  “Men have three-in-one shampoo. But we're paying for one bikini bottom. How are we gonna take over the patriarchy when, like, we're out a month's rent for half a bikini?” (36:13)

8. Queerness, Gender Identity, and Girls’ Gays Discourse

• Paige and Hannah muse about being "lesbian-passing" and the cultural shifts in friend groups:

  “Famously…every friend group has an in-the-closet lesbian.” (39:55)

• Discussion of TikTok drama around “girls’ gays” and calling out misogyny—reminding listeners that a man’s sexuality doesn't preclude him from problematic behavior (43:09).

9. Shakira’s Iconic Revenge & the Woman of STEM

• Shakira is hailed as a “woman of STEM”—for both defending herself in court over alleged tax fraud and being the face of the World Cup to spite her ex:

  “Whatever your ex is doing, find the way to be the face of it. It's not that hard. Just, like, put your mind to it for a couple years.” (56:09)

10. Kylie Minogue Doc & Breaking Out Of Boxes

• Hannah recommends Kylie Minogue’s Netflix documentary:

  “It just reminded me how much, like, people want to put people in boxes…Because I hate being put in a box. The second I'm in a box, I try to do the other thing.” (58:39)

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• On creative approval from your bestie:

  “If the people you care about love it as much as you do, you go for it.” – Hannah (03:55)

• On women's survival tactics in conversation:

  “We're just trying to…waste a man's time and actually never get to the thought.” – Hannah (09:04)

• On family cleaning roles:

  “But I see it as, like, invasive. I'm like, I'm not going to touch your table.” – Hannah (10:49)

• On the gendered economics of bikinis:

  “...what is in this bikini that's $195 and it's separate, so that's a $400 bikini. Make it make sense.” – Hannah (33:25)

• On queer allyship:

  “Being straight is so boring. All I want to do is be an ally to more interesting people.” – Hannah (49:25)

• On facing the world shyly:

  “Paige is so shy...when you do difficult things like that, I'm always like, oh my God, look at her navigating the world in her kitten heel.” – Hannah (21:15)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• On Perfectionism & Friendship: 02:10 – 05:46
• Filler Words & Women’s Speech: 07:40 – 09:04
• Chores & Family Roles: 09:57 – 12:52
• Padel vs. Pickleball / Sports Gossip: 13:12 – 16:27
• Bachelorette/Parties & Girls Girl of the Week: 16:51 – 23:05
• Zoom Culture Roast: 24:07 – 27:50
• Swimwear Pricing Drama: 32:06 – 36:13
• Queerness & Gender Dynamics: 36:26 – 43:56
• Shakira & STEM Women Segment: 55:38 – 57:16
• Kylie Minogue Recommendation: 57:25 – 59:41

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Tone & Style Notes

• As always, Hannah and Paige balance self-deprecating humor with spontaneous sincerity.
• Banter is quick-witted, often reckless, sprinkled with affection and realness.
• The podcast remains a safe space for exploring contradictions, poking fun at society’s (and their own) neuroses, and celebrating female friendship.

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Useful for:
Anyone seeking authentic, unfiltered talk on perfectionism, pop culture, modern womanhood, and why you should always double-check whether you’re emailing the maid of honor…or just the bride herself.

Transcript

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

We can't be managed.

[Paige]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah]

What's up my greasy gigglers? It's Friday.

[Paige]

Friday.

[Hannah]

Everyone's in the Friday.

[Paige]

You know, I got dressed this morning and I was like, oh my God, so cute. Like preppy. She's giving beach house. She's giving second home. And then I got on the zoom and I'm like, I'm just dressed like Hannah.

[Hannah]

No, but when you do it, it's chic. I'm obsessed with it. You look like you're in boarding school and just gave your first hand job and you like don't know what to do and you don't know if it went well or not.

[Paige]

And like it's sticky and like it kind of smells. No one warns you. No one tells you that it does in fact smell. That's something you learn on your own.

[Hannah]

His dick.

[Paige]

The calm, I would say.

[Hannah]

Oh, I try not to get that close.

[Paige]

I think the first time I was

[Hannah]

like, oh, guys, gross. I would get into it, but I'm pretty sure I have a 15 minute bit about how back in the day we used to like swallow and stuff on my upcoming special. So anyway, we're going to have to save that.

[Paige]

Anyway, wait, I wanted to bring up your special because I wanted to make it about me for a minute.

[Hannah]

Please, please, please.

[Paige]

How you know that you have a true real friendship with someone? Seriously, listen to this. Like, it's so easy to be happy when your friend is happy. Like, oh my God, like we're going out tonight or like, something, whatever. But when your friend is stressed. Now, mind you, when you were filming the special, I was getting a massage, but I knew, I knew how stressed you were for the trailer to come out the that, like, when it did get posted, I felt relief. I was like, you. And now she doesn't have to worry about that, you know?

[Hannah]

Well, you also sent me the cutest, sweetest, funniest text. She goes, I realize I never texted you for your trailer. And I had a parasocial relationship instead. Congrats. Which is basically, she commented on every photo I posted. She reposted everything. She was on a full PR campaign for me yesterday. And then was like, hey, sorry I didn't text you directly. Are you mad?

[Paige]

And, well, I was like, I'm no better than someone on Reddit. Like, I literally made up that I have a friendship with this woman.

[Hannah]

And every now and then when you do something like, really big, I turn into a fan. And then I'm like, if I text her, she really busy right now.

[Paige]

Is she doing it right now? Like, is she on set now?

[Hannah]

We had an airport moment where I was like, I'm going to show you this trailer and I just want to see your thoughts. And that was like the test. Like, you didn't realize it, but if you didn't have a decent reaction to it and I didn't need you, like, laughing hysterically, I just, I just know when you like something.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And you had a great reaction. And I was like, I don't go, fuck. Paige liked it. We're good. And that's how you have to be with creativity. Like, if the people you care about love it as much as you do, you go for it. And also, we're just talking about the trailer right now, but I'm just a real perfectionist.

[Paige]

You really are. It's actually exhausting. You. You think my hair cycling is exhausting? Listening to you, like, make art is so exhausting.

[Hannah]

Well, people don't talk about it. I'm. I'm a Virgo moon. People never talk about it. Never brought up in any of these, you know, thought. Thought things that people post.

[Paige]

It's not brought up because no one. I feel like I have a front row seat to you as a businesswoman.

[Hannah]

It's not, it's. It's not relaxing.

[Paige]

There's nobody I know other than Hannah that will start something and then half be like, this is horrible. I can't believe you guys even let me get this far. I'm changing the whole thing.

[Hannah]

When I fail. I feel fast, and I'm. I'm. I love to move. I love change. I will pivot. I'm a pivoter. But also, by the way, just so you guys get a glimpse behind the curtain. So Grace sends us all these clips from what happened on the pod, and Paige literally is like, love cute. Can you actually, like, change the background of that? Or, like, can you not use my face in that one?

[Paige]

Well, sometimes Grace picks the most diabolical screenshots of me, and I'm like, grace, act like you've met me before.

[Hannah]

Grace thinks you're beautiful in every angle. That's why. And I will come in and be like, Grace at 04 seconds, there's like, two. And I'm like, we can't post this. This is not good enough. And then I'll be like, at 0.75 seconds, you have to cut that faster. And then, like, do actually, like, a CGI moment over my head when I say this joke. Paige doesn't respond. Grace and I are in, like, eight hours of editing, and, like, Hannah's skin

[Paige]

color is giving orange, so maybe we change the lighting, but everything else is kind of crushing.

[Hannah]

Can you make the Hannah look aesthetically pleasing for, like, a second? But that's the thing. Like, when I'm with an outfit, I'm like, I'm stressed about editing clips. I don't have time.

[Paige]

My favorite thing is, like, when we talk about merch and you say, paige, what do you think? I'm like, sorry, it's my time.

[Hannah]

Also, actually, we don't know where Grace is. She's supposed to be on this virtual. We don't know where she is. And Paige said, tell Grace to join at her own leisure. And I just want to say shout out to you for, like, thinking of words. I talk for a living, but I actually don't do words. You talk for a living. You love a word.

[Paige]

Well, you know what?

[Hannah]

Not like a full sentence. A word.

[Paige]

I. It's true. I could make one word my whole personality. I love a word that has an alternative rich person way to say. Say said word.

[Hannah]

Like foyer?

[Paige]

Yes, like foyer. Like, I love someone that would be like, oh, my God, leisure. But then there's, like, a rich woman that says leisure. Like, actual leisure. Like, I. Like. I feel like. I feel like I have so many words. Like, okay, actually, this is so crazy. You know, like, the word mature. Sometime one time, I heard this woman pronounce it mature. And I. I literally remember where I was, how old I was, what I was doing. When I heard that, because I was like, oh, my God, she's not like other girls.

[Hannah]

Well, not to talk about my husband, because that's annoying, but because he grew up in Europe, he says some funky ass words. And at first I'm like, you are so dumb. You said that word wrong. And then he's like, google it. And I'm like, oh, it's the European way. You're actually better than me. Sorry, sorry.

[Paige]

I actually do think that sometimes I can have actually. Sorry. Whenever I have a thought period.

[Hannah]

Whenever I thought brain explodes.

[Paige]

I saw this girl, she made this tick tock and she was talking about how women. There's like a bunch of people that will do like. She's talking about women that will do full studies on linguistics and the separation between men and women and things they say. And she was talking about how women say, like, a lot.

[Hannah]

And I mean, I've never. But some other women but like, how

[Paige]

women are like, oh my God, all she does is say like and like. Like that we have a lot of filler words. And some girl commented the video and was like, I'm actually learning about this for like, my thesis in linguistics or whatever. And she said, from like, all the studies people have done, women don't get to talk a lot. So we actually put filler words in. Because if there is a sentence silence, typically the other person will immediately start talking. So we almost have to add in filler words to keep our place to let the other person know we are not done speaking. And I was like, oh, my God,

[Hannah]

we're trying to take up space.

[Paige]

We're just trying to.

[Hannah]

Why am I getting emotional? Why am I, like, getting like, emotional, like, right now?

[Paige]

And the girl that made the, like, initial video was like, I would never hate on another woman for using filler words or like, or having like a valley accent, because it is most common in women. And so why would I hate on another woman for being a woman?

[Hannah]

I also love a woman who speaks slow like this. I'm like, take waste a man's time. Waste a man's time and actually never get to the thought. Never fully get to the thought. Wow. Now I think of everything differently.

[Paige]

What were we saying, though, before?

[Hannah]

We literally just started the pod and we're already. We never had a direction. I actually think. I mean, we're talking about the trailer, if you approve. A lot of the gigglers approve, but they have to wait for you to co sign before they jump on board.

[Paige]

Well, it's funny because I had a lot of gigglers in my DMs, seeing if they could figure out what exact second that I said, wow, your hair looks so good like that.

[Hannah]

But you know what happened? You saw the wide trailer that's on YouTube. This was cut down, so you actually couldn't see the full hair. So anyway, also, Lenore is visiting right now because.

[Paige]

So the place is spotless.

[Hannah]

You know, like, you clean before, like, a hookup comes over. That's nothing like the way I clean before my mother comes over. I do like to leave her some things because she likes to have a hobby and she really likes to do the dishes. That's like, her thing. So I let her have fun. But, like, DEZ and I were cleaning. Like, we've never cleaned before. We were so scared.

[Paige]

Wait, really?

[Hannah]

Yeah, we woke up early.

[Paige]

Oh, that's serious.

[Hannah]

We woke up early. And I was like, come on, we gotta go. And we were like, I mean, this is what normal people do, like, once a week.

[Paige]

But do you know that I don't think I've ever seen you clean. Like. Like, I don't think I've seen.

[Hannah]

Because I'm a feminist. Because I'm a feminist.

[Paige]

Wait, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen you

[Hannah]

take, like, a small spray bottle and.

[Paige]

And spray something.

[Hannah]

Did you just say cleaning takes initiative? And when you grow up in Italian household where, like, the women take over. I'm never used to taking that initiative. You have to just. Even if you're at someone's house, and I realize, like, you just have to start cleaning and everyone, like, respects it, but I see it as, like, invasive. I'm like, I'm not going to touch your table.

[Paige]

Like, I wouldn't walk into someone's home and open up their refrigerator, so why would I open up their sink? Cleaning supply closet, 100%.

[Hannah]

I do think, too, there's something about dinner. I always hated how, like, when we were done eating, all the women got up and took everyone's plates. And call me lazy, but I was like, no, the men can take my plate. Why is the. Why are the women doing this? They already cooked it all.

[Paige]

What happens at your family holidays? Now who's cleaning?

[Hannah]

Okay, well, my nana and papa are perfect and adorable. My nana cooks and she takes the plates. But then papa loves cleaning. Like papa is handles all the dishes. And that's how my mom and dad are too. I just never, like, when all the men are sitting down and the women are at work, I'm like, what is this?

[Paige]

Did you have chores as A child.

[Hannah]

Well, this is also. This is kind of the problem is that I had a full time job. I was just playing tennis. So it actually inhibited my chores where like.

[Paige]

And there we go.

[Hannah]

Des doesn't. And that's.

[Paige]

And we've just figured it out.

[Hannah]

Well, yeah, cuz I'm not good at it. So I don't want to embarrass myself in front of other people by being like, that's how you put the dishes in the dishwasher. I actually tried to do the dishes and DEZ was like, never again. Like, this is chaos. He's like, I'm not. That's not.

[Paige]

I mean, what do you. How. How bad can you mess up loading a dishwasher?

[Hannah]

I guess some people like it more organized where I'm like, if there's an opening, it's like Tetris. You just figure it out.

[Paige]

Well, cups are on the top, plates are on the bottom.

[Hannah]

Yes. However, sometimes you don't have a covert plate. You have like a weird shaped bowl. And I try to just shove it. But look, we all have our.

[Paige]

We have our quirks, we all make our things.

[Hannah]

But I. The truth is, after school, I go to tennis practice. I. I get home at 8pm I have to do my homework. And I think my parents were like, the girl has enough going on. She can't do it. She's tired. I played paddle this morning.

[Paige]

How was that?

[Hannah]

Well, I want everyone to know it's different than pickle ball. I'm not like on the dark side. You don't have to like call the police. I'm not playing pickleball.

[Paige]

Hannah actually texted me and said, can we push the pod one hour? Because I'm playing paddle and I. And you know me, I don't know sports or anything, but I know I've heard her talk about it before. And I said, wait, just checking in because one time you did say, don't ever let me play paddle or I will get arrested. And she takes it back and goes, nope, that was pickleball. And I said, great.

[Hannah]

Yes. Yes. Also, sorry, I, like, can't take you seriously because you dress like me right now and I've lost respect for you. I'm like, what is she talking about? Like, you wait.

[Paige]

One day we should do a pod and I'll be you and you be me.

[Hannah]

And we just talk the whole time, like what we think the other would say.

[Paige]

I would just immediately start crying about my dead grandpa.

[Hannah]

No, I actually had a dream about him the other week and it's like why are you outcoming my dreams?

[Paige]

I had a dream the other week, and my mom told me, like, gossip in the dream. Like, she was dry. And I had. And I woke up when I went to my Instagram because I was like, is this how I get messages now? Like, my mom sends them to me in a tree. And I woke up and I had to, like, check my Instagram for something to see if it was, like, true and real. But it wasn't. But I sat in it for a

[Hannah]

little because I was like, yeah.

[Paige]

Because I was like, no, I had a dream that my mom came and whispered something in my ear. And so. And right when I woke up, I was like, my mom just told me something, and that's really scary.

[Hannah]

But anyway, I do. I do feel like I want to play sports. I want to be athletic, I want to sweat. I'm not done with my battle stories. But I woke up to play at 9am yeah. Which is early for me. And then it was so hot, and I was so tired after it. I was like, I need to cancel all my plans.

[Paige]

Like, hold on, Wait. Just like, to take it back for a minute. What is the difference between paddle and pickleball?

[Hannah]

So paddle's European, which makes it cool.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Like, people in Spain and then South America play it. It's cultured. It's. It's way more advanced than pickleball.

[Paige]

Got it.

[Hannah]

Pickleball is like. Is with a freaking.

[Paige]

For kids.

[Hannah]

What is it? What is. It's with a wiffle ball, which is so funny. Imagine someone being like, wiffle ball is now a sport. And like, all these people are just like, do you remember wiffle ball as a kid?

[Paige]

Yeah, I thought it was stupid.

[Hannah]

Yes. For the unathletic baseball players.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So anyway. But look, if you're playing pickle, I totally support you. It's just as a tennis player, we get, like, hate if in the community. And, like, I could only handle so

[Paige]

much within the industry, and we can't within the industry.

[Hannah]

I love getting industries.

[Paige]

Can we get in trouble with.

[Hannah]

My favorite is gossiping to Paige about sports drama and stand up comedy drama. Because, like, you have no. I was gonna say gun in the fight.

[Paige]

That's not skin in the game.

[Hannah]

No skin in the game. Thank you.

[Paige]

You should hear me when I tell other people tennis gossip. Because I'm like. And that's what I heard from my friend. And they're like, do you know any of these people? I'm like, no. And that's what makes it so good.

[Hannah]

Like, we'll Be we in tour, we were, like, running out things to talk about, and I would, like, see something on my Instagram of people you definitely didn't know. And I go, these people are getting divorced. Do you want to know why? And then to make her interested, you have to start from the beginning. Like, I'm like, she was born in a small town and you were locked in.

[Paige]

Oh, God.

[Hannah]

Yeah, you're locked in. But anyway, how are you?

[Paige]

I'm good. How are you? I. Oh, crash a Bachelorette.

[Hannah]

I was gonna. I was gonna say Girls Girl of the week. First ever Girls Girl of the Week. Wait, how did it end up on Tumor? Like, what is going on? Wait, the first ever Girls Girl of

[Paige]

the week is hilarious.

[Hannah]

You are. I'm so proud of you. You won it.

[Paige]

Thank you so much. I wasn't even campaigning.

[Hannah]

I'm a stickler with it. You don't just get Girls Girl of the Week.

[Paige]

Well, because Daphne launched bridal support. So, like, if you're going out of

[Hannah]

Bachelorette or Is so funny.

[Paige]

Yeah. Bridal help Email Bridal support @daphne the label.com. so you can, like, bulk order monogram things. It's just, like, easier for if you're the maid of honor or whatever. So we get a lot of emails. And let me tell you something. The gigglers are animated. Like, they're giving you the plot. They're giving you the full story. They're giving you why they've chosen cloud over white stripe because it's just, like, not esthetically pleasing. And the background, you know, like, they.

[Hannah]

They tell you because they also think you might be judging them. They're like, hey, I know that yellow seems like a weird choice. I swear, it goes with the, like, sunflower aesthetic that just.

[Paige]

And they're like, let me send you my Pinterest, because I feel like I could break it down more for you. No. So I do think sometimes they're like, well, what if she's reading this email? Which sometimes I am. So that's how we found this girl. We had a maid of honor email in and say, like, she was planning Bachelorette and it was going to be in New York City. So I was like, oh, this is a perfect bachelorette to crash, because I'm right here. Come to find out. So we're, like, talking to the maid of honor. We're like, what if, like, Paige surprised the bride? The maid of honor adds another girl to the email, and she goes, actually, she knows more about the logistics. This girl emails and goes, okay. So that was actually the Bride. And she's so type A that she was pretending to be me and asking for the order, and now she's looped me in and we're. And sorry about that.

[Hannah]

Iconic.

[Paige]

So from that moment, I was like, iconic. Like, I love a type A girl that's like, actually, I'll just do it myself.

[Hannah]

Wait. Pretending to be your own assistant is, like, not talked about enough and needs to be done as women in stem to be like, hey, Hannah's waiting for the follow up.

[Paige]

I actually have talked to a couple of people who have made second emails, pretended to be their own assistant, and, like, always made themselves a man because, like, people respond better. So anyway, so we're like, let's surprise both of them, because now the surprise is, like, totally ruined. So we email back and we're like, sorry. Like, Paige's schedule, like, it's just not going to allow it. But we would love to make you a reservation for Friday night or for Thursday night when you guys arrive for your, like, welcome drinks. Basically, like, we'll make the reservation. We'll set the time on us.

[Hannah]

So Daphne also will plan your bachelorette.

[Paige]

So Daphne literally will plan your bachelor. So we had the bride and the maid of honor have no idea. So I had a couple people from Daphne already there. And I'm in the basement.

[Hannah]

It's giving punked, literally.

[Paige]

And, like, Zack Shepard is gonna come out and be the waiter.

[Hannah]

You're just in a basement with a headset, and you're like, the eagle has landed.

[Paige]

So they get there. My Daphne employees give them, like, a bunch of matching shirts and matching sets and everything that they wanted. And then they went and sat down, and we're like, okay, like, have. Have so much fun. Like, sorry Paige couldn't come, whatever. Then like, two minutes later, I brought over, like, champagne to the table. Oh, it was so fun. And just like, like, easy, quirky fun, cute. Like, it was a great, like, kickoff of her bachelorette weekend. Like, I just felt like it was such an adorable moment.

[Hannah]

I also imagine you doing things, like, without me, and I'm like, how? Because normally.

[Paige]

Normally I'm like, how'd she get out of the house?

[Hannah]

If we were doing it, I would have jumped. And you'd been rolling your eyes in the back, but, like, you surprising someone on your own. I'm like, that's. But she's so, like, couth you actually

[Paige]

never spoken to someone.

[Hannah]

I'm like, she's never really exclaimed before. But you. I saw the video. You come to your little kitten heels and you're just like, well, you want to know what's so funny? I would scared the out of them. I'd be like, during the whole thing,

[Paige]

I didn't know what to do with my hands.

[Hannah]

I know. Like, that's why I know I was, like,

[Paige]

grabbing them because I was like, hey, I'm just, like, a small, small girl.

[Hannah]

No, Paige is so shy. You guys don't understand. She's so shy. So then when you do difficult things like that, I'm always like, oh, my God, look at her navigating the world in her kitten heel. And. And. But also, like, surprising someone is. It's tough because you're like, what if they don't respond the way you wanted? And then once you're there, I'm like, what do we talk about? Like, yeah, so how are you?

[Paige]

No, I was very. I was nervous to surprise them, but I. I was nervous that. To surprise them because I thought they, like, knew. And I was like. I didn't want them to be like, oh, yeah, obviously, like, here she is.

[Hannah]

Hey, girl.

[Paige]

Hey. Thanks for coming, my badgerette. So I got, like, a little nervous, but they were so sweet. And it sucks that they have, like, a horrible weather weekend, but, well, at

[Hannah]

least they're in the city doing, like, fun, indoor things.

[Paige]

They sent me, like, the PowerPoint for the whole wedding weekend, so I knew, like, what the vibe was for all the outfits. And, like, there's nothing I love more than a PowerPoint that a girl makes that has nothing to do with her job. And, like, because they're so helpful and resourceful. Like, who? The girl that made this PowerPoint. Like, she was like, think skirts, shorts, pants. Like, I'm, like, so close. Like, she gave a vibe of, like,

[Hannah]

she's giving night of what she should.

[Paige]

You guys should wear. And I'm like, so everything is acceptable.

[Hannah]

And a go that reminds me of us in one of our important zooms, which is just. That should be a show in itself.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because Paige and I were, like, just listening to people talk, but I felt like we should say anything. And they were like, are you ready? We have a presentation. And I just go, we love PowerPoints. And they're like, okay. And we're sitting there, and at the end, they go, paige, you have any questions? And she goes, I'm just happy there wasn't a quiz at the end of that. I thought there was going to be a quiz. And then we got off the call

[Paige]

because someone had to crack a joke. No. I literally almost interrupted and was like, What? In the eighth grade, science class because I've almost fallen asleep. 7.

[Hannah]

The whole point of a PowerPoint is you get to press it and surprise people with a funny photo.

[Paige]

I texted Hannah while we were doing it because I had literally, in the moment, come up with the most genius thing I've ever come up with. I could not stop yawning, so all I kept doing was rubbing my nose because you couldn't see that I was yawning. I was like, every now and then,

[Hannah]

I screenshot Paige in these zooms. And by the way, it's not with, like, three people. There's, like, 20 people. And. But I'm watching her. Believe me. I keep an eye on her.

[Paige]

I always watch her.

[Hannah]

I watch you the whole time. She can't help.

[Paige]

Oh, well, wait for what I'm going to say about you.

[Hannah]

Okay? She goes, come for me? No, but, like, I screenshot and send it to the group chat. Just so Grace knows how you're representing us in a public. Well, sometimes she pulls out her skincare, which, like, at that point, I'm just like, that's one.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

That's only with people.

[Paige]

Like, I. That I know.

[Hannah]

Yeah. But it's like. Like I feel like I pretend smile in this life way more than you, which, like, I'm jealous of. I wish I could have your confidence. I'm fake smiling 24. 7. I'm like, Paige is just sitting there

[Paige]

like, well, you've made yourself a clown for the people. I didn't tell you to do that. So, like, people, like, expect people interact with you, and they're always laughing, so they expect you to also be in a jovial.

[Hannah]

Being a light in this dark world.

[Paige]

Yeah. And I've given. I'm. I'm this close to a panic attack,

[Hannah]

so don't push me.

[Paige]

And so they know.

[Hannah]

What was that laugh? I just. So what do you have to say about me?

[Paige]

Okay. Ms. Performative Hannah's in the zoom doing performative chin grabs. Like, she's. Like, she's contemplating a goddamn thing.

[Hannah]

She also. I kept switching my chin position.

[Paige]

I go, what are you, Colonel Mustard in the library with a revolver? Like you're trying to look.

[Hannah]

That's so crazy. I think everyone's watching me. I, like, think people are watching me, and I have to show them doing. Well.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Wait, also, do you know what I'm doing? I'm hiding my double chin.

[Paige]

Okay. The other thing that I think you do, that literally could make me burst out laughing in any moment, that I actually have to look away sometimes is you nod and it Sounds. It sounds innocent enough, but she does it in a like, hey, that's a really good point. Never thought of that. And I'm like, they didn't even say anything.

[Hannah]

Okay. I'm an active listener. I'm. Look, I'm an empath. And when someone's speaking and no one's reacting. See, I know you know how you feel for inanimate objects. That's how I feel for real people. And now, like, when they're talking and no one's reacting, I'm like, come on, Someone has to give them a little positivity. So here's. But, you know, that's why I don't like social situations. Because by the end, I've. I should win an Oscar.

[Paige]

Well, I had it. I have a team meeting every two weeks. And last week I said, guys, what are we doing here? This is an off camera zoom. I get out of my face like,

[Hannah]

were you there for our last off camera zoom?

[Paige]

Yeah, I'm the one that started it.

[Hannah]

And guess who didn't finish it.

[Paige]

Who? You?

[Hannah]

Yeah, I showed up and didn't go off camera.

[Paige]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. I was the first one on with one other girl. And I said, hey, you're either with me or you're against me. Turn your camera off. And she goes, I'm with you. Absolutely. Everybody else joins. They go, oh, it's a no camera zoom. I go.

[Hannah]

And I show up two minutes late.

[Paige]

Anna shows up two minutes late, didn't have to do the intros, and goes, I'm just gonna be camera on.

[Hannah]

I said, she's on camera. And I just was like, wait, I love whatever attention. And then everyone's talking. I was nodding for them. The truth is, if I'm off camera, I can't trust myself. If I'm off camera, I'm playing tennis. Like, if I'm off camera, I'm petting my cat. I'm not listening to anyone. But if I'm on camera, I have to look at least like, I care. And then you care more. Wait, I love how we just did 20 minutes about Zoom calls, but I feel like it's relatable.

[Paige]

No, that. But that's like, really pertinent to my everyday life.

[Hannah]

So, yeah, like, we usually go jargon in everyday life.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So I love a little zoom joke in the beginning and then I could calm down once I get the laugh.

[Paige]

I'm like, yeah, my quiz joke was pretty good on that zoom.

[Hannah]

That was really fucking funny. I always laugh a little too hard and everyone's like, okay, yeah, you guys know each other?

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

So summer's upon us, which is crazy, but I was like looking at bathing suits and I love cheap bathing suits.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I don't know because I'm not like doing a photo shoot in them. Like, I'm just trying to be in the pool or the beach.

[Paige]

You're playing games.

[Hannah]

I'm playing. Yes.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Yes. Or I'm. I'm sprinting, I'm swimming, I'm racing, I'm doing. I'm a mermaid.

[Paige]

You're doing activities. So it's impossible to lay out with you.

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[Paige]

Yeah. You're not.

[Hannah]

No.

[Paige]

You have to be actively engaged. The only time you can really lay out is if we're discussing something that we've discussed 8 million times, but there's one new fact and we're beating that fact. Beating that fact with a dead horse. Then you can lay and tan because you're actively doing something. But if it's like the same old shit, you're like, should I like hit a tennis ball and we'll talk about this?

[Hannah]

Well, the good thing about our friendship is it's eight years of drama. We can pull from so much.

[Paige]

The archivals are the archive in a day.

[Hannah]

Looking good and we rotate. But I got like some TikTok advertisement for a bikini that looked beautiful. I clicked it. $195 for not the full bikini for the bottoms.

[Paige]

Why?

[Hannah]

Yeah, I mean, it's one of these, like, nice ones, but, like, what is. It's underwear. What is in this bikini? That's $195 and it's separate, so that's a 400 bikini. Make it make as okay as a designer, as a fashion mogul, make it make sense to me. How do they get to those numbers?

[Paige]

It's hard to justify because it's such a small piece of clothing.

[Hannah]

And what is it made out of that makes like, isn't it just like.

[Paige]

I would assume. I would assume it's probably mostly spandex.

[Hannah]

Is that, like, really pricey?

[Paige]

No, but, like, I don't know what swim material. I don't know how hard it is to make swim because I don't even know what that's, like, made of.

[Hannah]

I don't know. I think it's like a real rip. It's a real rip.

[Paige]

And what were you shopping on? Do you remember what website? Or like, do you remember, like, it

[Hannah]

was like a brand. Like it was like a swim brand or it was like a clothing brand that had swim. But it was like, it was nice. Like, it had like 200.

[Paige]

No, bathing suits are tough. Here's the thing that is hard to justify spending so much on bathing suits is because a lot of the time, unless it's like a very good quality bathing suit, I would say a lot of the time after two summers, it's kind of like dingy and gross and you have to get a new one anyway.

[Hannah]

Like, if it goes through it.

[Paige]

Yeah, you go through them faster than other articles of clothing.

[Hannah]

You know, it makes me mad. It's because it feels like they're pulling something over our eyes where that. I'm like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with one weird colored bottom?

[Paige]

You hate getting duped.

[Hannah]

Put it in a set. Put it. It's like being like, hey, this earring is $200. This one earring. Like, obviously I need to buy the other earring.

[Paige]

We one time I ordered earrings and it was. What was the brand? It was like a. It was like a brand that was. They had a store in the West Village, I think it was like super big at the time. Something like. It was like a woman's name. Something like Tasha or like, I forget whatever. And I'm like. And everyone's getting these like, little mini dainty earrings, and I'm like, I have to. So I go online and I, like, see the earrings that I want, and I'm like, great. I'm gonna get this. It was like, 195. I was like, that's insane. But, like, whatever. I get it. It comes in the mail. It's just one.

[Hannah]

And I'm like, is this a joke?

[Paige]

I'm like, clearly, someone, like, messed up, like, the other earring. And you, like, get on customer service, and they're like, no, we send them. We sell them individual. Like, they thought I was stupid.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Paige]

And I didn't realize it was like, because all. Every girl was doing, like, multiple piercings. So they just send it, like, one. But I'm like, it's a. It's a pair. I have two ears.

[Hannah]

And meanwhile, men have three in one shampoo. But we're paying for. For one bikini bottom. How are we gonna take over the patriarchy when, like, we're out a month's rent for half a bikini?

[Paige]

You know, it's something that would send me into a coma now that I would have, like, died for in high school as men in earrings.

[Hannah]

I never went that gay.

[Paige]

Someone say I've gone gayer?

[Hannah]

No, you have. You have. And that you have.

[Paige]

And they were good friends.

[Hannah]

This is my question. Was it a little mini hoop? Was it a dangle, Gen Z or just a stud?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Okay. There was a time where guys with one stud, he was naughty. You're like, that's a bad boy.

[Paige]

One stud. No, I liked double. I liked. I liked cubic zirconium all the way around.

[Hannah]

You would have liked. Loved the Staten island guys. Like, you would have lost your mind at the Staten island Mall in 2006. You would have been, like, dry humping at a Hot Topic.

[Paige]

Well, you know what's funny is, like, remember when Facebook came out and we had, like. We're just, like, in the kind of in the beginning of high school that, like, we could have it. And did you ever, like, happen upon, like, your friends, cousins, boyfriend, sister, who, like, lives in a different state? Like, I remember the first time I ever saw, like, a New Jersey prom, like, on Facebook.

[Hannah]

You were like.

[Paige]

And just being like, wait a minute. Like, I don't know what's going on in my body, but I like these guys.

[Hannah]

It's funny because I heard that you're from Albany, and I was like, oh, I didn't know they had Italians that, like, up north. I thought they all were in Brooklyn.

[Paige]

New Jersey.

[Hannah]

New Jersey. I didn't know they made them in the cold like that.

[Paige]

Well, because my family didn't come through Ellis Island.

[Hannah]

Do you think you're better than us?

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

How did they get here then?

[Paige]

My, like, great grandpa came over illegally as like a stowaway, but through, like a port in Boston. And he had like a cousin in Albany, so that's how he ended up.

[Hannah]

Cousin.

[Paige]

Yeah, it was like, wherever you could get a job. And so we didn't have anyone in New York City yet, so no one.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Lived there.

[Hannah]

Look at you with the historical facts.

[Paige]

I mean, there's definitely, like, there was definitely, like a part of Albany that was all Italian at some point. No, I didn't, like, go to high. I didn't have, like, high school girlfriends that were Italian in the way I was Italian. Like, maybe they were a little Italian, but they didn't either, like, celebrate the way I did on holidays. And, like, their mom certainly didn't yell at them the way my mom did. So I'm like, she doesn't love you.

[Hannah]

I'm like, did you just tell your mom to shut up? That's crazy.

[Paige]

No, I love the Jersey vibe. And I also love. Yeah, I don't know what age that changed that I was like, I would never date someone with an. With two earrings. But now I'm like, that's so terrifying. Although the thought of, like, being able to share earrings is nice. Everything I say, it's just like, paige, you're a lesbian and like, but you could have the same wardrobe and that would be convenient because I, like, said something and some girl made a tick tock and she was like, I literally said this right. Right before I came out.

[Hannah]

Well, Paige and I were famously on the phone and I said to her, I feel like every friend group has a In the closet lesbian. And Paige said, not in my friend group. And I said, that's how you know that you're the one. Guys.

[Paige]

You think, you think, I don't want this. I want this. It. My life would be so much easier.

[Hannah]

Yeah. I could see, like, you know, that one random, like, really girly girl dated Miley Cyrus. Like, yeah, if you did meet the right girl, you'd have, like, the happiest life. But I don't know if that's for this lifetime. I just know the right girl could swipe you off your feet.

[Paige]

Here's the only reason. And dare I jump in on this convo? The only reason I say that I'm not is because from the moment I was little and I saw a boy, like, I knew I loved boys. I genuinely think that's why my mom made me go to an all girls high school, because she knew I. I loved boys.

[Hannah]

Yeah. I also feel like if I came out, people would be like, boo. Boring. It's like, so much more exciting for you to come out.

[Paige]

It would be so exciting.

[Hannah]

Because I'm lesbian passing. I identify as straight, but I. I'm lesbian passing. And that's why, like, I'm so close to the community. And not all gay guys like me, even though I. Because they get lesbian vibes from me. But no, I had. There's a certain gay guy that is my heart and my soul.

[Paige]

Yeah. You know, I've been hearing more and more people talking about gays. Gays versus, like, girls. Gays.

[Hannah]

Really?

[Paige]

Well, there was, like, a lot of discourse on Tick Tock, I feel like, about how there was a guy. Did you see the guy with the whole Solid Core thing? Yeah. Okay, so that, that song. I didn't. We talked about it, like, in the very beginning.

[Hannah]

Is it still going?

[Paige]

Hannah, it's still going on. And I don't know all the details if you want to look it up. I think it was in, like, Darien, Connecticut.

[Hannah]

I want this guy from Connecticut who. Who's like, putting Solid Core on blast all the time.

[Paige]

But it was this gay man who would go to Solid Core and he would go to, like, the earliest class every day. And something happened. I think he, like, was recording the instructor and she might have been like, late one day or something.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And they were like, please don't like, record the instructors. Like, don't put this on the Internet, whatever. And he was like, totally, like. But, like, she was late. And then something else happened and he got in trouble for something else. And they emailed him and they were like, you can't do this. And he was like, totally, like, so sorry about it. And then something else happened that, like, he was like, I didn't do this. So now he's almost at like, three strikes. The last thing he did, I guess, was he's in the parking lot before the class even starts. Early in the morning. Like, I think he goes to like, the 6am so say they're in the parking lot at like 5:45. Also.

[Hannah]

That is when you should be in REM sleep. Nothing good happens before 7am or after

[Paige]

1am Nothing good happens before 7 a. And I guess he was like, yelling the instructor's name. And I don't. And I think the instructor kind of got a little like, wait, like, are you, like, really mad at me? Like, again, like, it is a man at the end of the day. And so, like, all these girls were making tick tocks about, like, Certain gay men that have been, like, really mean to them, whether it be, like, in their friend group or, like, in a work setting or something. And I'm like, yeah, it's happened to me a couple times. And it's very jarring because it's like, oh, but we get each other.

[Hannah]

You're like. You're supposed to be on my side. Can I talk to you for a second?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

There are some men. Doesn't matter what sexuality they are.

[Paige]

That, yeah.

[Hannah]

Are misogynistic. There's women who are misogynistic. So just keep an eye out in these streets.

[Paige]

Obviously, gay men can relate to us on so many things like that. I had this one friend who. She was like. She was saying how one of her gay guy friends, like, said something about her being fat while she was pregnant, and she was like. And it just, like, really iconic. I'm like, who was this gay? Let me meet him. But she was saying, like, I, like, hurt her feelings. She's like, it was so hormonal. And he kept saying, like, you have to be pregnant with twins. And she was like, and I'm not pregnant.

[Hannah]

You're crying because that's gonna be you.

[Paige]

I'm gonna cry so much. I already know it's gonna be so hard for me. I'm gonna be in pain all day. All I think about is my short torso. And that's because of you. I was never scared of that before.

[Hannah]

Page, not to be too positive, but remember how much you loved freezing your eggs and the hormones because you finally felt alive? Feelings.

[Paige]

I felt love. I felt. No, I felt real feelings. Hinting I felt real feelings during that. And that was scary.

[Hannah]

You were a girl's girl.

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

I've also had gay men fight for me like I've never been fought for. I had a, actually a beautiful moment with a gaygler where I was in LA at a coffee shop, scared. And there was one beautiful man just standing there. And I was like, wow, he thinks I'm so good looking. Then he came up to me and he was like, I just have to let you know I love your comedy because on Netflix there's not a lot of like, gay male representation. So like, your feminine comedy is like the closest I can relate to because I don't relate to other comics. And he was like. And through you, I've been introduced to other, like, queer comics and artists. And like, thank you for being a voice like that we needed. And I was like, so I'm Lady Gaga. If there's one gay man in my audience, I go, it's really hard being Lady Gaga.

[Paige]

You're like.

[Hannah]

And being the voice of a community.

[Paige]

Hannah, you in a meat dress. I feel like is you should do that when you're for Halloween.

[Hannah]

But also, like, being straight is so boring. All I want to do be is an ally to more interesting people. All I want in this world.

[Paige]

Well, you want to know why being straight is annoying? Because it's so predictable. You got married, you had kids, and then you cheated. Yeah, we saw that come. You know, it's just like our lives are so predictable where the gays, they, they go out, they do, they. They're doing things with different people. They're like, they're all over the place.

[Hannah]

Also, they're naturally traumatized because they were told by society that like, what they do is. Isn't the norm. So they're naturally been through that made them grow, which makes them hilarious. So anyway, just reminding all the gagglers how much we love you and any man that's in the closet listening right now.

[Paige]

Wait, what are you doing for the holiday weekend? Do you have any plans?

[Hannah]

Oh, Lenore's visiting and she's getting a mini pedi right now and she watched me play paddle and we might take. Well, she loves a mental health walk. Lenore loves. And she goes. She goes fast. Also, we're going to Vegas for the American Music Awards.

[Paige]

Oh, fun.

[Hannah]

Because you had a wedding.

[Paige]

Yes, I do. I have a wedding in the middle of the week.

[Hannah]

I do have to say I did find out I do have one wedding because it seems kind of depressing, me being like, I have no weddings. And then I felt like everyone was, like, talking about me. Like, well, she doesn't have any friends. There's a wedding that Des didn't tell me about that I am invited to.

[Paige]

So not your friend.

[Hannah]

Got it.

[Paige]

Sorry.

[Hannah]

All my friends are sluts. Sorry. They're all business sluts who don't. Who don't want paperwork involved.

[Paige]

Sorry, my friends have rejected the patriarchy.

[Hannah]

Sorry, my friends haven't settled.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Sorry. I'm the only friend who's got paperwork involved. Did you see Sports Illustrated? They were like, alex Earl, can you ask Hannah some questions about dating? And I was like, oh, my. Like, what am I going to say to Alex Earl about dating? I'm like, alex Earl, like, I literally haven't sent, like, a good, flirty text in a minute. Even though back in my day.

[Paige]

You still have it in you.

[Hannah]

I have it in me. And I do moonlight for a lot of relationships, but, like, I haven't put myself out there, obviously. But she was asking me questions about dating. And then at the end, I was like, I fucking married. I don't have to. I don't have to be defensive about I'm married. So I, like, you have to listen to what I say anyway. Okay. One of the questions was funny. They were like, do you wait to text back or not? And I think I actually had kind of a good answer because I feel like waiting to text back. Yeah, do it a little bit. But it becomes too exhausting to be like, did I hit the hour mark? I think you text back immediately with typos. So he's like, she. Like, she's busy, but also, like, she clearly doesn't give a. She responded immediately and spelled everything wrong. Like, she never. She didn't send this to all her friends. And I think there's something confident about that. And you get the conversation going.

[Paige]

That was a great answer.

[Hannah]

I hate when you're in these, like, four hour text things with guys where I'm like, I don't even know anything about him because we've only. We're playing this, like, game. I'm like, we're all on our phones.

[Paige]

Everyone, all the time, everyone.

[Hannah]

But I said I wouldn't double text.

[Paige]

I mean, I've definitely done it.

[Hannah]

I've done it. Like, if it's like, we're texting during the day and then, like, I'm out, but I'm not, like, continuing a conversation.

[Paige]

No. Like, I'm not asking the next question. Like, if.

[Hannah]

Like.

[Paige]

Like, if a natural question is to follow, like, then I'll say it. But if the conversation has come to a halt, I'm not reigniting it with a question.

[Hannah]

Or, like, if I said something really dud, like, if I just said okay to something, then you can continue it as just, like, being nice. Also, if he's your soulmate, you could literally send him a paragraph about how you want to have his babies, and he'll be like, cool. Same.

[Paige]

Yeah. You can never act too crazy for the right guy, ever. Me and Hannah are very much in the true belief of traumatize them early, see what they can handle.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

How strong they are.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

And then you can weed it out really quickly.

[Hannah]

Speaking of woman of STEM of the week.

[Paige]

Wait, before we get to women of

[Hannah]

some of the week, I got ahead of myself.

[Paige]

I've had so many girls messaging me. Cosmetologists who have learned the art of the gray hair. Honey. And a lot of them said it's a myth that it's not that if you pluck 1 out, 5 will grow in its place. It's that the belief that is that you are damaging. Damaging the follicle. Okay. And that that causes to grow back a little weird. Now I forgot what they said, that you've just lost melanin. That, like, it's growing, like, it's not gonna grow five more back, but, like, that follicle, it's gonna grow gray because you've lost melanin.

[Hannah]

But it was already gray.

[Paige]

Yeah. My girls were like, pluck away.

[Hannah]

Okay? So it's funny. Whenever we say we're confused about anything, we get tons of messages from gigglers. And I was telling Des. I'm like, oh, my God, we get so many messages from, like, doctors. He's like, who's messaged you up? I'm like, people are like, hey, I'm a surgeon at NYU Langone. I was just listening to Giggly Squad. But I did get one message that threw me. This girl said that she's our women set of the week.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

She is a twin. And she said they did their own study on the ground boots on the ground journalism and said that she plucked her grays and her twin didn't, and she has more grays. So that threw me. That threw me. Threw me off. But I'm still plucking. What do you. Because what are you doing if you're not plucking?

[Paige]

Well, a lot of girls were giving, like, different root sprays that they use,

[Hannah]

or I Just want to go full gray with thick tortoise shell glasses and a cape and just, like, walking around, like, talking shit about everything.

[Paige]

Okay, but not in, like, our 30s.

[Hannah]

No, more like, like our six ladies. But our woman of stem of the week runner up is Shakira.

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[Hannah]

Do you know what Shakira did?

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Wait, do you want to tell them?

[Paige]

So a couple of years ago, I don't know if you guys remember, but Shakira was accused of tax fraud in Spain. Literally proved the court wrong, and was like, give me back my. My $10 million, I think is like, they seized or something. Or froze.

[Hannah]

I shouldn't know about this part.

[Paige]

And so she, like, proved that she didn't commit tax fraud, and they were like, okay, yeah, you're right. We're wrong. Not to be controversial, but sounds like an inside job. Sounds something. Something fishy was going on.

[Hannah]

Can girls commit tax fraud? No, I don't think we should pay full. We should pay 70 tax if we have. If women were in charge of politics, that would be the first. There'd be no pink tax. Like, why are we getting taxed the most when we make the least?

[Paige]

It kind of is crazy that feminine products are taxed.

[Hannah]

No woman would have thought that. Yeah, some old man. But I'll add that to why she's women of STEM of the Week. But my reasoning was, so her ex who cheated on her is like a soccer player or football, and she's the face of the World Cup. So iconic. So iconic. So whatever your ex is doing, find the way to be the face of it. It's not that hard. Just, like, put your mind to it for a couple years.

[Paige]

It's. Honestly, it's not that hard.

[Hannah]

Imagine everywhere he goes, it's just her face and her songs and yes, people are going to the game just to see her.

[Paige]

Hell yeah.

[Hannah]

So respect to that. Because you know that her team was probably like, you could do this. You don't have to. You're ready, icon. You don't need to work this summer. And she's like, yeah, I do.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I do clear my plans. I definitely do. And the documentary I recommend everyone watch is the Kylie Minogue documentary.

[Paige]

What's that on?

[Hannah]

It's on Netflix. It's three episodes. I don't think they. They talked about how good her style was. And one thing I'm very jealous of Kylie Minogue for. She's.

[Paige]

First of all, I think it's Mino.

[Hannah]

I. I'm gonna have to say mano to that. I hate my. No, I hate Myself, I think it's Minogue.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

It's not Minogue either.

[Paige]

No, I knew that. And it's not Montague.

[Hannah]

No, that's a whole different family. Different word. Yeah, yeah, it's just a different word. But you can say mano to bring it back to the beginning. Like, if that's what your heart is, is singing, we should double check on it. So the thing with Kylie Minogue, do you know that she. Think of Kylie Minogue, she started in Australia, that's where she was born. On a soap opera that blew up. Like, everyone was obsessed with it. It spread to the uk, it spread to Ireland, and then she decided she wanted to do some singing. And everyone was like, you can't be a singer, you're an actor. And she was like, I'm 19 years old. I love. I love music. I've always loved music. And it just reminded me how much, like, people want to put people in boxes.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Because I hate being put in a box. Like, the second I'm in a box, I try to, like, do the other thing.

[Paige]

Well, you try and break the box.

[Hannah]

Yes. And I do think people can't comprehend that just because you started somewhere that's not where you wanted to end. And a lot of the time when you do something that's not even what you planned and then they put a stamp on your forehead and they're like, this is who you are now.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So she was like, yeah, I was auditioning for gigs to make money, but, like, I always wanted to be a singer. Like, I actually never wanted to be a soap opera actress. And she's so fucking beautiful. And she hasn't gotten work done, which makes her like, so, like, you can't look away because she's unique looking. And what I'm so jealous of her about, this bitch can pull off every hair color and every hair length from a shaved head. Bright blonde, blue, black.

[Paige]

How old is she?

[Hannah]

She's now 57 and she's on, like a full world tour. Her career was insane. And I love a music documentary. I just, like, eat that shit up.

[Paige]

You love a music documentary? Do you know I haven't watched one music documentary that you've told me to watch?

[Hannah]

Why? Why do you do this to me?

[Paige]

Because I feel like you've watched it, so you've informed us enough for the both of us. So if we ever run into this person someday, you're got. You literally have a covered.

[Hannah]

I'll be like, she thought your name was Mano. Embarrassing.

[Paige]

I think it might be.

[Hannah]

Are you watching anything?

[Paige]

Am I Watching anything? No. Honestly, TV has sucked recently. Yeah.

[Hannah]

What the helly?

[Paige]

I don't know the streaming platforms. Guys, did you clock out? Like, what's going on? There's no shows. Everything is like, I know that we are feminists because we are alive, but every show feels so geared toward men that I'm like, like, I don't care about, like, this drug deal gone wrong. One thing I wanted to say about your special is like, the Utah girls must have been like, who did Hannah's hair? It was giving full Mormon wife. But like, she doesn't wear her undergarments.

[Hannah]

Like, not Jesse from Mormon Wives commented.

[Paige]

I'm sure she did what she said.

[Hannah]

She was like, I can't wa watch. And she definitely was like, that's my sister.

[Paige]

No, I was like, where is Hannah's long blue dress and seven kids? Because you were giving Mormon that hair was giving Jay Z styles.

[Hannah]

We do Hannah and Paige try new

[Paige]

things Mormon just one day or just like any culture. She's slipping. I think she's slipping.

[Hannah]

It's really hard to be in a cult if you have have stomach problems like I do because it's like communal bathroom and you can't get up during the group, like, chanting because I get mad at you. So I'm like, I'm like, kind of past the cold.

[Paige]

I just also, like, need to be alone for a certain amount of hours a day. And so, like, don't tell me what to do because I'll have to like, kill you. So, like, no, I'm not in your cult. Anyhow, I hope everyone has a lovely

[Hannah]

holiday giggling with us. Have a great weekend. We love you so much. Bye.

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