Giggling about pregnancy, pearadise, and pink trauma

Summary

Giggly Squad – “Giggling about pregnancy, pearadise, and pink trauma”

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: June 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Hannah and Paige dive into a whirlwind of topics ranging from personal therapy experiences, the normalization of pregnancy on reality TV, the nuances of the color pink, cultural phenomena like New York sports events, and the wild world of Mormon Wives and their unique rituals. True to the Giggly Squad spirit, they blend self-deprecating humor, pop culture commentary, and raw friendship moments—making fun of everything (and themselves most of all).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Giggly Squad as Therapy

• Therapy vs. Podcasting: Both hosts discuss how the podcast has replaced actual therapy for them, serving as their outlet for processing life’s challenges.
  • [02:52] Hannah: "Do you realize Giggly Squad is actual therapy for us? ’Cause I actually stopped doing therapy a couple months ago…"
  • Paige reflects on guilt around seeking therapy without “big” complaints, while Hannah struggles with the financial burden.
• Value of Therapy:
  • Paige: "In my early 20s, I would fall off because I didn’t think my problems were big enough to take up someone’s time..." [03:21]
  • Hannah: "Every session I would be like, is this worth $200?" [04:27]

2. Friendship Dynamics & Fashion Debates

• The pair riff about merging personalities, having similar hair, and public demand for Paige’s stance on socks-with-sandals fashion.
  • Paige, on socks with heels: “I think it’s cunt. That’s the only word I can describe…” [05:47]
  • Discussion morphs into inventing a grippy Pilates sock for safer sock/heel combos.

3. Witchy Motivation, Negativity, and Manifestation

• Paige shares a “witchy” belief about turning negative energy into motivation after a weekend of ringing ears and subsequently having a productive Monday.
  • "I take negativity and I create positivity, and so I feel like that’s what happened to me." – [07:50]
• Hannah was receiving a barrage of motivational “f*** the haters” videos on TikTok and sent them to Paige. Both riff on the power of the “Giggler” community to drown out critics. [08:11–09:12]

4. Pop Culture & Recent Events: Knicks and Community

• Deep dive into the Knicks’ playoff run and how it brought NYC together, complete with wild fan stories, bedazzled team shirts, and celebrating women like Jalen Brunson's wife, Ally.
  • Notable Moment: Knicks fans' standards: "No one died. A win is a win. And the bar is so low for men." – Hannah [10:12]
• Sports superstition and astrology: Paige teases the irony of men’s superstitions, "Oh, you guys don’t believe in astrology, but if you don’t wear the same underwear every day…" [15:15]
• Community: “If I didn’t have the Gigglers… I don’t need other people’s support. I don’t need fake friends. I don’t need… the industry.” – Hannah [08:56]

5. Best Friend Blindspots & Pink Trauma

• Discussion on how best friends might not know basic facts (like each other’s favorite color), because their connection is mental, not performative. [16:24–17:25]
• Feeling pressure in childhood to stop liking pink:
  • Paige: "I’ll never forget, it was in second grade when all of a sudden the girls were like, no, my favorite color is not pink." [18:20]
  • Hannah: "It’s a little pick me to be like, I don’t like pink." [18:40]
• Healing and reclaiming pink as adults; Paige talks about her “pink aura” and affinity for pink objects.

6. Rabbit Hole: Mormon Wives, Super Weekends, and Sexuality

• Hannah is obsessed with the Mormon Wives reality show, praising its unvarnished, normalized portrayal of pregnancy and female friendships.
  • "I’ve never seen women on TV pregnant going about their life in such a normal way." [25:40]
• BYU Super Weekends: Students get married in Vegas for sex then annul it; Paige calls it “rebellion at a fourteen-year-old reading level.” [29:56]
• Mormon “docking” explained (described humorously and with mild disbelief), and mention of feederism in a later, separate documentary discussion. [30:34–31:22]
• Both reflect thoughtfully on religious upbringing, the role of shame, and generational changes.

7. Personal & Family Stories

• Hannah and Paige’s moms, family quirks, and stories about growing up.
  • Nana’s late-night Instagram use and family communication routines. [36:14–37:14]
• Friendship and conflict:
  • Hannah: "I’m not a fighter… The only fights I’ve had is, like, on the tennis court." [52:00]
  • Paige: "Where, like, I… When I see… something that’s just, like, categorically false… Like, people have been making up rumors about me since I was in sixth grade." [53:34]

8. Documentary & TV Recommendations

• "Paradise" (stylized Pearadise): Documentary about a man fetishizing plus-size women and feederism; both hosts react with concern for the women involved. [57:27–61:20]
• JoJo Siwa cruise – unexpectedly positive, with glowing fan reviews and community, mostly adult fans. [47:20–48:05]

9. Other Notable Moments & Quotes

• Paige on her family’s “espionage” level: "We know no peace at that house. Everyone knows everything about everyone.” [40:23]
• Attempting to understand nuns vs. sisters in Catholicism—“There are factories of prayer where they’re mass producing prayer. There’s like the Shein of prayer.” – Hannah [49:07]
• Birds on FaceTime, as per TikTok: “Birds are literally like kikiing on FaceTime. They have best friends.” – Hannah [41:53]
• Final musings on why some reality TV “villains” emerge and the performative nature of apology and group-think in those settings. [56:05–57:27]

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Timestamps for Memorable Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |---------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:52 | Hannah: Podcast as therapy, quitting traditional therapy | | 05:47 | Paige: Socks and heels are “c*nty” | | 07:46 | Paige: Turning negativity into motivation | | 10:12 | Hannah: Knicks/NYC fan chaos and “the bar is so low” | | 15:15 | Paige: Superstition vs. astrology (sports & beliefs) | | 18:20 | Paige recounts “pink trauma” and second-grade peer pressure | | 25:40 | Hannah: Normalizing pregnancy on Mormon Wives | | 29:34 | Explaining BYU Super Weekend, Vegas marriages | | 30:34 | Explanation of “docking” | | 36:14 | Hannah talks about her Nana’s late-night texts and social media | | 41:53 | Hannah: Birds using FaceTime, animal friendship analogy | | 47:20 | JoJo Siwa cruise review and unexpected joy | | 49:07 | “Factories of prayer”—nuns, sisters, Catholicism | | 52:00 | Hannah on avoiding conflict; Paige on being seasoned to rumors | | 56:05 | Reality TV “villains,” performative apologies | | 57:27 | Documentary pitch: “Paradise” and discussion of feederism | | 61:33 | Wrap-up, final weirdness acknowledgment |

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Highlight Quotes

• On therapy as performance:
  "In therapy, like, you’re doing well and you just complain to your therapist about how you’re so busy and how the therapy is stressing you out. And then you’re like, I think you’re the problem." – Hannah [02:52]

• On socks & sandals:
  "I love socks and a heel like that. I think it’s cunt. That’s the only word I can describe… And there is something about it that feels British." – Paige [05:47]

• On the Knicks chaos:
  "No one died. A win is a win. And the bar is so low for men. Yeah, a bunch of people got stabbed in Times Square, but no one died." – Hannah [10:12]

• On pink trauma:
  "First of all, purple is for haters like you. It’s like you want to be pink, but you won’t commit to it." – Paige [18:28]

• On Mormon reality TV:
  "I’ve never seen women on TV pregnant going about their life in such a normal way." – Hannah [25:40]

• On friendship:
  "It is really a relationship where it’s two people. It’s like, if we didn’t want to make this work, we could have ended it immediately." – Hannah [55:29]
  "You have to actively choose that person every day and be like, that is my friend and I’m gonna treat her like my friend, period." – Paige [55:55]

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a rollercoaster of laughter, sharp pop culture takes, heartfelt moments, and the type of inside jokes only best friends can share. Hannah and Paige continue to invite listeners into the intimate, unfiltered corners of their lives, proving once again that vulnerability—and giggling about absolutely everything—really does feel like therapy.

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Transcript

[Paige]

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[Hannah]

And we cover everything. You cover all of, like the scripted dramas and historical things. And then I do documentaries, which aren't historical. Those are just.

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. Hello, my Gratifying gigglers. We have so much to talk about today. I'm like, I have like a notebook out.

[Paige]

You're bursting.

[Hannah]

The DACA is crazy.

[Paige]

We were on FaceTime last night. We had to hang up.

[Hannah]

That was so sad.

[Paige]

It was actually sad sad.

[Hannah]

We were like vibing and then I was like coming up with more shit. And then at some point, Paige was like, stop. We need to save this for the gigglers.

[Paige]

We're gonna have no content. We've just laughed about it all.

[Hannah]

Do you realize Giggly Squad is actual therap for us? Cuz I actually stopped doing therapy a couple months ago cuz I was busy and. But you know, in therapy, like you, you're doing well and you just complain to your therapist about how you're so busy and how the therapy stressing you out. And then you're like, I think you're the problem.

[Paige]

I didn't think we were going to get this deep this quickly. And it's also like 10am on a Monday.

[Hannah]

Under a minute in.

[Paige]

Wait. I have something witchy I want to say too.

[Hannah]

Okay. Okay.

[Paige]

One of the reasons I think that in my 20s I would go on and off with therapy so much is. Which is different than in my early 30s. My early 30s, it's like, I really am so busy. Like, I'm fucking up your schedule with your other clients because of me. Like, let's take a minute, let's take a beat for a couple months. In my early 20s, I would fall off because I. Which now I can recognize. I didn't think my problems were big enough to take up someone's time one hour during the week. Like, I felt guilty getting on a zoom and being like, I really didn't have any childhood trauma. Like, I felt you were like.

[Hannah]

My friend wore a halter top after she saw me wearing a halter top.

[Paige]

I felt shame of like, you don't

[Hannah]

have any, but you're supporting a small business regardless.

[Paige]

Correct. It didn't take me till my early 30s to be like that. You need to be in therapy for that thought alone.

[Hannah]

My problem was the opposite. I couldn't afford therapy in my 20s until, like, until I couldn't afford not to. And then every session I would, period every set, write that down. Every session I would be like, is this worth $200?

[Paige]

Y.

[Hannah]

And then I would start needing therapy to be like, I'm stressed about if this is worth it because I need to pay rent and $600. What, $800 of therapy a month?

[Paige]

Yeah. That's a lot yeah, it's a lot.

[Hannah]

A thing came out that it's now stylish to, like, not brush your hair. And now I'm starting to feel like people are just, like, coming for your brand. Coming for my brand.

[Paige]

I mean, I grew my hair out.

[Hannah]

You, girl, look, we have the same hair right now.

[Paige]

We have the same hair.

[Hannah]

Same hair. We're merging into the same person.

[Paige]

We're becoming one.

[Hannah]

And the Gigglers still have not gotten a firm answer from you on the socks and sandals outfit. I keep getting tagged. What's getting messed with?

[Paige]

Sandals outfit.

[Hannah]

I wore that, like, brown outfit.

[Paige]

Oh, yeah.

[Hannah]

Today's show. And I don't think you commented. And the Gigglers are kind of upset because they don't know which way to go.

[Paige]

Okay, I apologize. I can't give a. I can't come up with something witty every time, my friend.

[Hannah]

Oh, I had a press tour. Like, it was a lot of stuff to keep up with.

[Paige]

I love socks and, like, a heel like that. I think it's cunt. That's the only word I can describe. Like, it's just cunty. And there is something about it that feels British.

[Hannah]

Okay. Yes. Because it's, like, rainy. So you have to wear a sock when you go out. I do have to warn people, though. Like, a sock with a heel, you're slipping and sliding. Like, I almost tore my ACL three times.

[Paige]

You have to have a real grip on your toes, and you can't.

[Hannah]

Wait, wait. We have to invent a Pilates sock for a socks sandal.

[Paige]

If it just had, like, a couple little button things on the bottom, it would be better. I'm surprised that more. The inside of more shoes don't have those, like, heels, specifically, like, in a lot of my, like, sandal heels. If I had those little grippy things at the bottom right where my toes go, it'd be so much easier to walk.

[Hannah]

So I know. This is so us. In four minutes, we've come up with a business idea. We've talked about our therapy, and.

[Paige]

You want to hear my witchy thing? You want to hear my witchy thing?

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

Over the weekend, I went to a wedding. I had so much fun. Granted, there were. It was, like, loud events. Like, Friday night welcome dinner. There was, like, loud music. Saturday night wedding. Obviously loud. But my ears were ringing all weekend. Okay. And ever since I was little, like, if I ever said, like, my ears are ringing, my mom would be like, someone's talking about you like that. Like, cliche.

[Hannah]

So Italian. She's like, someone's talking Shit, someone's talking shit on your brain.

[Paige]

Whatever. I like didn't think anything of it over the weekend. Monday morning, this morning I wake up and I'm just like so motivated. I like wake up at like 8am I take a shower, I put workout clothes on, I go for a like 45 minute walk. I get a coffee, I do some emails, I, I start. I'm like, okay, when are we doing giggly squad? I woke up so motivated. And rarely on a Monday morning am I motivated. Takes me until like Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, you know, I'm like, the week has started.

[Hannah]

We're getting Thursday, half past noon.

[Paige]

I think that my ears were ringing all weekend and someone was talking bad about me. And that's why Monday morning my. Because my energy is so connected to the universe. I feel like my body woke me up Monday motivated. Because that's what I do. I take negativity and I create positivity.

[Hannah]

Positivity and success and money.

[Paige]

And so I feel like that's what happened to me.

[Hannah]

Do you know what's weird? Normally I just send you comedy videos, but my TikTok was bringing me like really like fuck the haters videos. Yeah, I don't know why. And it was like, you know who believes in you more than anyone? The people talking bad about you. And for some reason I was like, I need to send this to page. So if you look at your TikTok, it's just me sending you motivational videos against people who don't believe in you.

[Paige]

So I love it.

[Hannah]

We're really on the same page with that.

[Paige]

I really love it.

[Hannah]

But finally what I just say, therapy is like, this is really therapy for us. And I also just have to do a thank you to the Gigglers because my special came out. The Gigglers watched it. If you love me, put it on one more time today. But like, there's so many people, like, if I didn't have the Gigglers, like

[Paige]

who cares about us?

[Hannah]

I have the Gigglers. I don't need other people's support. I don't need, you know, fake friends. I don't need. Yeah, industry. Like, I just need your Jalen Brunson. Okay, now someone posted an old, you're

[Paige]

our comedian Jalen Brunson.

[Hannah]

Someone posted an old article of like someone making fun of me when I, you know, left reality TV being like, now she's going to make fart jokes in comedy clubs. And it was, I think that's a

[Paige]

quote taken exactly from you.

[Hannah]

Though I did say that no words

[Paige]

were changed, were they just reporting what they heard. The news.

[Hannah]

The news. No, but whatever was making fun of me for. Like, this is going to suck. I was like, you all created a monster now. But it's just the. What would we do without the love and support of this community?

[Paige]

Like, I met a lot of gigglers this weekend, like, at airports.

[Hannah]

I mean, the gigglers are traveling.

[Paige]

They're traveling, they're summering just to get over west.

[Hannah]

I haven't taken my Nick shirt off since the last podcast. Just kidding. But the next one, and the funniest thing about it was Jalen Brunson looked at the cameras like, guys, just be safe.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

There were 63 people injured and seven stabbings. And someone commented and said, double, double, double. Almost a double double. Which is a hilarious basketball joke. But then someone goes, no one died. A win is a win. And the bar is so low for men. They're like, yeah, a bunch of people got stabbed in Times Square, but no one died. We.

[Paige]

Did you see the video of the taxi driver that was just like, this is my livelihood. Like, I understand that the city is erupting. Like, you could feel like it's moving, it's actually shooting. And my guys were going to sink into the Hudson.

[Hannah]

Like, well, there were some gay guys that were like, I thought it was not 9 11. Again. I didn't know there was a game going on. I just heard people yelling in the streets.

[Paige]

There were two guys up on a, like, light pole and they started making out.

[Hannah]

Pride Month, too.

[Paige]

No. And the comments were like, if these were identifying straight men that, like. And they're like, it's not gay if it's because the Knicks won.

[Hannah]

That is. So here's.

[Paige]

Okay, here's another thing. Also, like, don't like the school buses on flat fire. Like, it's really scary. I'm so proud of the Knicks.

[Hannah]

I'm so

[Paige]

proud of the individual players. Because if there's one thing I'm going to do while I'm watching a sports game is like, I'm going to just end up looking up, like, what's their girlfriend like? And like, what. What's their vibe? You know? And so, like, you once you said that the one guy's parents passed away.

[Hannah]

I was like, no, I need to look up everyone's lore.

[Paige]

I need to look up everyone's lore. Such Ben Stiller's making a documentary, right?

[Hannah]

Yeah. That's why he's walking around horizontal videoing everything.

[Paige]

Such good stories for each of, like, the starting players. But I would be remiss If I did not bring up the number one thing that I thought the entire time at the end of the game, the entire New York Knicks organization was wearing matching T shirts. And we love that. I will have to point out that they were bedazzled.

[Hannah]

The second I saw it, I texted you. You texted me. We were like, no one's gonna say anything about this.

[Paige]

Now be you wear whatever style you want. What makes you happy. You like it? I love it.

[Hannah]

Someone at the corner office was like, what? Had to make an actual call to be like, can we add bedazzles?

[Paige]

A girl made a tick tock and she said, ladies, I hate to inform you, but we have, in fact lost the war.

[Hannah]

Running around in bedazzled shirts, hugging and kissing each other.

[Paige]

And I love. I'm not coming on here being a hater of it. I love it. I'm like, yes, this is what the men are missing. They be able to express their feelings. This is why are girls girls? And that's all I'm saying. Like, okay, like, totally. Guys, like, do what you want to

[Hannah]

talk about who actually won the championship? First of all, we have Jordyn woods, who, like, with her magical bag, and everyone's joking about it. And then by the end, no one was joking. People like, where the fuck's the bag?

[Paige]

And I love that it was her own brand.

[Hannah]

Her own brand, I love sells out.

[Paige]

And I hope that Tristan Thompson is somewhere having a miserable time.

[Hannah]

That's karmic, babe.

[Paige]

And I love that Jordan was like, I never needed anyone. No, I was always that girl. And I like that.

[Hannah]

That's entrepreneurship at its finest. And then not to name drop, but Jalen Brunson's wife, Ally, who they've been dating since high school.

[Paige]

Oh, I didn't know they've been dating since high school. I did watch a video of their wedding, though, so I missed that.

[Hannah]

I didn't watch a full recap of their wedding. She.

[Paige]

I did get to their wedding website.

[Hannah]

She's a giggler.

[Paige]

Yes. And we met her.

[Hannah]

We've met her. It's fucking insane. My favorite part was he gave her the trophy at one point. And I don't know if you guys know the shape of the trophy, but, like, she started holding it like a baby, and it was so cute. And I'm like, and that's the mother of the team.

[Paige]

For Daphne, we can, like, we gift to, like, a lot of people and we can see when they've been like, yes, I'll accept this gifting. And she accepted it. Like, Last week, and I was just like, oh, my God, a girl's girl.

[Hannah]

Ali, you're welcome to come on the pod chat the Knicks. We're a huge, huge sports podcast. Also, I have to do women's time of the week is Sandra's braids. She's been braiding a lot of the Knicks hair, and Josh Hart in particular. She braided it to have, like, a New York sign on top, and the guys, like, swear by it, and they need Sandra to do their hair before I do.

[Paige]

Love the superstition that is involved in sports because it's like, oh, you guys don't believe in astrology, but if you don't wear the same underwear every day. Okay, guys, why don't you keep bedazzling your shirts?

[Hannah]

Okay, we'll be over here. Also, shout out New York Liberty. They're playing. The girls are still playing. But I do think it was a beautiful moment for New York in general. Just the city coming together, people from all different places and stories, and us all just syncing with the happiness.

[Paige]

Well, also, I think New York City has so much influence over the rest of the country. And so I feel like when we're up. Yeah, we set a tone. We set a certain tone.

[Hannah]

Yep.

[Paige]

And I really feel like New York City is. It is feeling very 2016.

[Hannah]

It literally was giving 2016.

[Paige]

I do kind of feel like I just got, like, out of college and I'm like, let's day drink somewhere with a breeze. Yeah. Wait, are we still talking about the next. Or can we.

[Hannah]

No, we can move on.

[Paige]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Thank you for asking for consent.

[Paige]

This girl. This girl made a TikTok and she was like, I have best friend. Best friended with my best friend so hard that I know all of her fears, all of her hopes and dreams. Like, I know everything about her. And she was like, but I don't know basic things about her. So they spent the night asking each other, and I sat there and I go, oh, my God. Gun to my head. Someone said, what's Hannah's favorite color? I have no fudgeing idea.

[Hannah]

We could, like, guess, but we've. We don't know, I don't know idea. Our next thing I'm going to get into is Mormon wives, which, like, might take the whole pod. However, there, you know, Macy and Michaela don't hug. Like, they hug everyone else. They look each other. Like, we don't hug. And I was like, wait, that's so best friend. Why can't best friends hug?

[Paige]

It's because I know, too.

[Hannah]

It Felt like we're so mentally connected that we're like, I don't need to touch you.

[Paige]

It almost feels performative.

[Hannah]

It feels perform. That's why best friends, like, don't have photos together.

[Paige]

Yeah. Because I'm like, this bit. Yeah, I'm gonna go. Like, it feels like we're making fun of our friendship.

[Hannah]

No. Even on the road, when they were like, can you guys make a TikTok together? We're like.

[Paige]

With her, they're like, anytime we're taking pictures and they say, look at each other and laugh, oh, my God. We physically can't do it.

[Hannah]

It's actually so uncomfy. Like, we don't make eye contact. We just talk at each other.

[Paige]

We only make eye contact when it's like. It's like, hey, look at me. I have to tell you something. And, like, it's. It's like when we're in a search

[Hannah]

situation, making eye contact where we're not speaking. Exactly. But also, I was looking at TikTok. There's, like, two types of girls growing up. The girls who liked pink, and then the girls who, like, didn't like pink. Because it was, like, a statement.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

But, like, that's me and you. Like, I know your favorite color was pink.

[Paige]

Of course. Hannah. I remember. I remember the day the girls turned on me. They were like, you still like pink? And I was like, first of all, purple is for haters like you. It's like, you want to be pink, but you won't commit to it. I'll never forget, it was in second grade when all of a sudden the girls were like, no, my favorite color is not pink. And I was like.

[Hannah]

And they said purple. Yeah, yeah. Because they. You know what it is? It's a little pick me to be like, I don't like pink.

[Paige]

Well, then there'd be, like, one rogue girl that would be like, orange. I feel like, freak.

[Hannah]

Like, well, I was, like, fighting the patriarchy. So I probably said blue, but I didn't feel attached to blue. I just knew I didn't want pink. And when you start liking pink again, it shows like, you're healing. I personally, pink brings out, like, bed tones in my skin, so I personally don't. I think I. I really like green.

[Paige]

It's funny that mystic Michaela said that my aura is pink because from a very young age, I've actually felt an inanimate object vibe toward the color pink. Like, if I didn't. If there was an option to get something and they were all different colors, I would feel Guilty if I didn't get the pink one.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Because it's.

[Paige]

Because I'd be like, that's part of me. Like, that is. That's for me, even now as an adult, if there's, like, color options, everyone always knows Paige is going to want the pink one.

[Hannah]

Well, you have a pink microphone right now because it's cute. I really like the ugly green color that Dakota Johnson's kitchen was like. That's my vibe. Yes. But that's also. Anyway, you guys, I've been in a K hole.

[Paige]

This is a top podcast.

[Hannah]

We literally, the other day, I was opening my fridge and I was like, we have a lot of responsibility. We. So many people are listening to the pod. I'm like, what do I want to say on the pod tomorrow that will, like, change humanity? And then I was like, I want to talk about Dakota Johnson's color of her.

[Paige]

I have not stopped quoting Grace's date since I found out about it. And all I keep saying is, like,

[Hannah]

we're going to make.

[Paige]

We're going to make history. I've been leaving the kitchen and saying it.

[Hannah]

Kids say the darndest things. Yeah, Men say the darndest things. Needs to be like, the next show. Like, please send us all the things that men have said to you, and we'll start a segment with it. Also, it's Grace's birthday. Happy birthday, Grace.

[Paige]

Yes. Happy birthday, Grace.

[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

true K hole with Mormon Wives. And look, I know I'm annoying. God forbid I watch something when everyone else is watching it. I have to wait like six years later. And then I text Paige. I'm like, wait, this show's.

[Paige]

You're like, Kim Kardashian.

[Hannah]

How did she do that? Oh, yeah. She's like, have you guys listened to NSync?

[Paige]

Game of Thrones was like the biggest phenomenon of the whole country. It was like the last time we were actually united as a country was when the season finale was on and people, like, hated it.

[Hannah]

I didn't watch the season.

[Paige]

Three weeks later, Kim Kardashian, like, comes on Instagram stories and is like, have you guys heard of Game of Thrones?

[Hannah]

Everyone's like, yeah, I'm obsessed with her. So Mormon Wives is one of the best. Like, it's, it might be better than Vanderpump rules 100% because for so many reasons. But one positive thing I want to say about it is I've never seen women on TV pregnant going about their life in such a normal way. I feel like whenever someone's pregnant, they're either hiding it or they're like, everyone's

[Paige]

making a big deal of it.

[Hannah]

These girls are just fully pregnant, having fights, talking, taking care of their kids, talking about their sex life. It is no, like, I'm learning more about being pregnant than ever before.

[Paige]

Yeah, it's. They make it feel very like your life doesn't stop. You're just adding, like, bonus fun to it. Like, what are you talking about? You could do anything with a baby.

[Hannah]

Yeah. There's like, nine girls. Someone's always pregnant, and they don't even acknowledge it. They're like, oh, it's you today.

[Paige]

Yeah, yeah, it's that. I don't think people talk about that enough because, like, what other reality show is really about, like, the early lives of people, like, the early relationships of people?

[Hannah]

Or, like, when someone is pregnant, Pregnant. They're like, she's pregnant. She can't come, she's pregnant. These girls are literally, like, yelling at people's husbands. Fully pregnant. And then all Michaela and Macy do is eat. And I'm obsessed. They had, like, a road trip and they stopped to pee like, eight times and eat. And I'm like, that's incredible journalism of what? It's like being pregnant in, like, a funny way. And it makes me feel like. Like, I was always so scared of pregnancy in terms of, like, what do you do? You're just, like, sad and pregnant in a corner.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

These girls are like, you can do anything. Pregnant.

[Paige]

Yeah. And I feel like I already have and you too. We've already gone to so many functions where people will be like, drinking, where we're not drinking. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I can survive it. I think of it as, like, sorry, I'm Irish. Exiting. I'm pregnant. I'm growing a human. God forbid I have to leave and use the bathroom.

[Hannah]

I'm getting a cheese fry.

[Paige]

Yeah. Like, okay, what about it?

[Hannah]

Also, now I realize, like, first of all, I'm kind of a Mormon wife because they all wear their hair down the middle with waves, but, you know, that's what I ask for. Then low key, everywhere they go. Like, the one problem with me with reality TV is I actually didn't like drinking, and I wasn't good at drinking. And. But I was in my mid-20s, so, like, you could have convinced me to do anything.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Even though no one asked me to do cocaine, which is a whole. You can listen to that episode another time. But all these girls go everywhere and they're like, we got these mocktails. And I'm like, fun, cute. Instead, I'm the loser that's like whispering the mocktail. I want to order. And everyone's like, what's that? What's that? What's that? And I'm like, it's the hibiscus tea, like, mint, and it's really expensive.

[Paige]

It's always the hibiscus.

[Hannah]

It's always hibiscus with some ginger.

[Paige]

People love hibiscus, Love hibiscus.

[Hannah]

And Then they're making them, like, shots. And I'm like, I want to hang out with these girls because all they're doing is drinking cute, fun drinks. All this everywhere they go, they're like, here's your fun drink. And don't tell me that like, they need alcohol to fight because these girls do not. And they're pregnant. Like, how do they have the energy? I'm just like, so impressed. I have so many thoughts. Well, they're young and I'm learning more about Mormonism, which you guys know. Like, we have a. We're obsessed with. Do you know what a BYU Super Weekend is?

[Paige]

A BYU Super Weekend. Okay, so bring them. Bring up Young. Mr. Young is the college.

[Hannah]

Yeah, so all of them are Mormons in college.

[Paige]

And a super weekend.

[Hannah]

Ooh, you're going to love.

[Paige]

This is a super weekend when you have like mixers and you meet like potentially your husband.

[Hannah]

It has to do with Vegas. When they want to have sex, they go to Vegas, get married, have sex, and then annul it and then go back home. And I said, these people are fucking geniuses.

[Paige]

I'm upset.

[Hannah]

You would have loved to BYU super read.

[Paige]

That is like rebellion at a 14 year old reading level because. What do you mean? You're a grown adult.

[Hannah]

Well, they want to go to heaven.

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[Hannah]

They want to go to heaven.

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God created sex.

[Paige]

Like, I never. I'll never get that. Like, if he didn't want you to do it, it wouldn't. Like, why?

[Hannah]

Also, I don't think that God cares about the details that much. No, God's dealing with serious things. He's not gonna get into semantics.

[Paige]

The nitty gritty of if the penis fully went in. Okay, leave me out of it.

[Hannah]

Okay? So then they have this thing called docking.

[Paige]

Okay?

[Hannah]

It's like a little gross, but it's basically when this is how they describe it, they put the hot dog in the bun and just move it, but it doesn't go in anything. What bun? The vagina labia. So they just like put the dick

[Paige]

on top of it?

[Hannah]

Yeah. And they call it docking.

[Paige]

And they just stare at each other.

[Guest]

What do you mean?

[Paige]

And do what, by the way?

[Hannah]

All this stuff is freaker than sex, by the way.

[Paige]

It's actually ten times more intimate.

[Hannah]

Imagine going to Vegas going through a whole ceremony and then he comes in 13 seconds. Because you know these men will. Because they're like not watching porn or anything. And then you're like, we did a whole. We did paperwork for you to come in 30 seconds. And you know these Girls are an orgasm.

[Paige]

If I have to match a shoe to an outfit, my libido is down. I've. I've. You've ruined the moment. How horned up are.

[Hannah]

They're all doing anal. And for an extent, they're all doing analysis. They're all doing anal. Not all of them. Okay, but they're all doing anal. They're the freakiest.

[Paige]

Look, I fully. This is why I love Mormonism. I believe that you should be able to believe any religion you want at any. As long as you're not murdering people. Like, I think you should believe whatever the you want.

[Hannah]

I forgot what I was gonna. No, I agree. And as long as your religion isn't hurting other people.

[Paige]

Well, you could argue that religion is a little bit culty. Like, you could hear something and that's a little culty.

[Hannah]

No, I would argue all of them.

[Paige]

Yeah, all of them.

[Hannah]

I think what's happening to these women is it started to be like a couple things. They're like, that's weird. But then by the end they're like, literally all these rules are like, to suppress us. And we love God and we love morals.

[Paige]

But we were talking about this last night that, like, obviously we think that reality TV is such a. The best study of anthropology, but Mormon House or Mormon wives is even 10 times better than that because when they do certain things, you can exactly pinpoint why. So it's like these things have been done to your mom and then she did them to you, and now that's how you think. And you might do it to your daughter where like the Mormon housewives are kind of being like, but I am not gonna do. Like, I don't think any of those women are going to put the sexual shame on their daughters that was put

[Hannah]

on them a hundred.

[Paige]

Like, I really don't see them.

[Hannah]

And they're gonna, they're gonna talk to them. They're gonna ask, like, imagine putting your daughter in a room with a man and she doesn't know anything. You need to send her in equipped. I'm gonna tell her all the bad things to look out for all the good things. Like, I'm sending her in with a fucking checklist.

[Paige]

Did you have a sex talk with your mom? Yeah, like, because Lenore is a principal, I like, did she. I wonder if she had like a strategic.

[Hannah]

Well, this is the thing. I was a huge prude because I just cared about tennis and I was the oldest of the family, so I didn't have like older sisters or older brothers telling me things. Like, I remember Being at a sleepover and someone's like, so and so's horny. And I was like, do they need to get that check? Like, are there bumps? Like, I thought they meant they had, like, horns coming out of their skin. And I was like, I remember the

[Paige]

first time someone said 69.

[Hannah]

And I was like, no.

[Paige]

Like, yeah.

[Hannah]

My mom literally, like, it was. She'd laugh because I was the last to find out everything. And she's like, you're such a loser.

[Paige]

No, but that's very sweet.

[Hannah]

And, yeah, she didn't have to. At one point, she was like, do you want to talk to a boy? Yeah. When I dated my super religious football player that I talk about in the special, we did have a moment. He literally was like, you have to come to Bible study with me. Or, like, I don't feel like you are. Or like a good enough person. And I was like, wait, but I'm. I'm trying to make good decisions and be kind to people just out of my heart, not because someone's telling me to.

[Paige]

Exactly.

[Hannah]

And he, like, his brain, like, exploded. I'm like, you don't actually need someone to tell you to be a good person. That's just how I was raised and what I'm trying to be.

[Paige]

I feel like people that are bad people, like, really, really bad people, they know, like, they know they're bad people because, like, if something happens in front of you and your immediate reaction isn't, like, to help that person or check on that person, you're. You're a bad person.

[Hannah]

But also, I do think religion really helps people.

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[Hannah]

In terms of a lot of ways. But I just don't like when people.

[Paige]

Did anyone see Giggly Squad discussing religion?

[Hannah]

This is a crazy. This is a faith based podcast.

[Paige]

I'm like, and you know what?

[Hannah]

This is a faith based podcast.

[Paige]

Would you consider yourself. What's your religion? No, like, honestly.

[Hannah]

So I say that I'm agnostic, which means I'm not saying I don't believe anything. I just, like, know that I don't know what's happening.

[Paige]

But what were you. Did, like, did you make your confirmation?

[Hannah]

No.

[Paige]

Did you make your first holy communion?

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I had a little dress. But my parents wanted us to be raised, like, knowing about a lot of different religions. But, like, look at my class. So diverse.

[Paige]

Like, so you've never been like, I'm Catholic, or, oh, I'm Jewish, or you just.

[Hannah]

I would joke that, like, I'm half and half, but, like, we weren't really celebrating much. It Was mostly my Italian Nana being like, it's Christmas. And I'm like, this is awesome.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Also, my Nana wanted me to text, let you guys know when the Knicks won the other game. I said everyone was asleep. My nan and Papa were awake. And I called Nana and Papa saw

[Paige]

the one in the 70s.

[Hannah]

Nana and Papa been awake. Nana, Papa stay up. They party.

[Paige]

Do they?

[Hannah]

Oh, yeah. Nana's up on her Instagram responding to people's dms.

[Paige]

Wait, now I'm like, what is Nana's schedule? If you had to pinpoint a time that she's resting her head on a pillow, like, 11pm late.

[Hannah]

Like, my parents are asleep by 10. Nan is 11:30 sending me DMS.

[Guest]

No way.

[Paige]

And what time do you think she's waking up?

[Hannah]

Good question. I know that she wakes up. She doesn't exercises. Then she calls Rosemary and they. They gossip.

[Paige]

You think she's waking up at like, 7:00am or like, 9:30?

[Hannah]

I don't think 9:30. No, I think she's awake. I don't know. I guess. Yeah. I feel like you need less hours.

[Paige]

Wait, I need to know Nana's schedule.

[Hannah]

We need to know. We might have to get her on.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

My final thing that the Mormons, I guess they don't say God, so they say, oh, my hell. Oh, my hell.

[Paige]

I didn't pick up on that.

[Hannah]

They love saying oh, my hell. And I'm like, that doesn't come off the tongue. Easy.

[Paige]

Oh, my hell.

[Hannah]

But, like, when you're raised where everyone's saying, oh, my hell, that's just what they say. Oh, my God hits a lot, a lot harder.

[Paige]

I say oh, my God literally every other sentence.

[Hannah]

But, like, they don't say God's name in vain.

[Paige]

The wedding I went to this weekend, the. I think she was the maid of honor, Whatever. She spoke for the bride. She started it. She would know she was doing a prayer. She started it out. Dear God, me again. Like, said her name.

[Hannah]

And I just thought it was like, she's leaving a voicemail.

[Paige]

Hey.

[Hannah]

I just thought it was, like, so

[Paige]

cute and, like, fun. Like, she found a way to make the prayer. Like, she had to get up in front of everyone. She found a way to, like, make it a little funny.

[Hannah]

Some other people are. You're on speaker.

[Paige]

I just thought it was so cute.

[Hannah]

No, I love that also, by the way, I pray.

[Paige]

Do you? Okay, interesting.

[Hannah]

Like, not fully committed, but every now and then I just have a moment where, like, honestly, I pray when something good happens to me, when something good happens, I just go thank you, whoever.

[Paige]

Do you say? Okay, so I was gonna say, do you say dear God, or, like, I

[Hannah]

feel like I say that. I'm like, God, Jesus, whoever you are. You're my girl. Thank you. Like, when something really good happens, I feel, like, euphoric. I always feel like there's, like. Yeah. Something going on that's bigger than me. And I like to acknowledge, like, that

[Paige]

this was not just me or it's

[Hannah]

just, like, thanking life, you know, like, thank you, life for this moment. And then, like, in two seconds, I'm annoyed with something.

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[Hannah]

It's very short.

[Paige]

I do feel I. I would classify myself as, like, pretty religious.

[Hannah]

No, I know.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

My blonde best friend Haley. Nicola. Haley's, like, super religious.

[Paige]

Haley's very religious.

[Hannah]

But I love having friends who have different, like, perspectives than I do, because it's 100%. But no, you're super religious. Also, Kim prays for the success of Giggly Squad every day, and that's why we're here.

[Paige]

Kim prays all the time. You got any prayers from. I told you this story. When I, like, went through her prayer journal one time.

[Hannah]

She's prayer.

[Paige]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we were like, where were. We were somewhere together.

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Oh, no.

[Paige]

I think she was just, like, at my apartment.

[Hannah]

Of course she does, because she's Kim Shakespeare to Sorbo with her other pen.

[Paige]

And I'm just like, no, her handwriting's so good. And I'm just, like, going through her prayer journal, and all I see is, like, gary, Gary. And I'm like, wait, you can't go

[Hannah]

through a prayer journal.

[Paige]

I know.

[Hannah]

That's, like, going through her literal.

[Paige]

Are you kidding? Hannah, I've been crazy from a young age.

[Guest]

I used to.

[Paige]

I used to go through my own dad's. Dad's phone. Like, when he got a cell phone, I'd be like, yeah, let me see. And I would go through his own text messages. And when. I'll never forget one day asking my mom, like, do you ever go through Dad's phone?

[Hannah]

And she was like, no.

[Paige]

Why would I?

[Hannah]

You do it for me. Wait, so she's on your email, you're on Gary's phone plan.

[Paige]

We know no peace at that house. We know everyone. Knows everything about everyone.

[Hannah]

She is Russia.

[Paige]

The second my brother leaves her house, she's on the phone. She goes, you'll never guess what he said. All we do is talk about the four of the four of us with each other.

[Hannah]

See, my dad, like, still can't figure out how to post an Instagram story. So My mom and I literally are like, how does he even use his phone?

[Paige]

The one day my dad, like, deleted a text and I go, why'd you delete that? That was like a new conversation. And he got like, confused and he was like, well, it said I had no storage left anymore. And I was like, okay, you're lucky. Because I was like, oh, you learned how to delete a te text message. Like, what was in the first Asia?

[Hannah]

Who taught you that? Someone cooked here?

[Paige]

And he was like, what?

[Hannah]

Also, I saw a tick tock from Trixie Mattel who's randomly like David Attenborough talking about birds. How scientists did a study where they let birds facetime each other. So, like, a bunch of birds, the birds are FaceTime each other and using their little tongues and they're calling like, the ones that are calling more birds are getting more calls back. So, like, they have like a full social system. They're recognizing, like different birds. Yes. These birds. Birds are literally like kikiing on FaceTime. They're like, they have best friends.

[Paige]

What kind of birds it was.

[Hannah]

It looks like a, like, it wasn't a parrot, but it was like a parakeet type thing. I don't know.

[Paige]

Like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hannah]

They literally, like, they're bonding with each other. They're like picking the birds. They like more they're bullying each other, but, like, they're recognizing the birds owners. Like, it's. Birds are really out here being smart as fuck. And that's why I'm like, are the pigeons okay? Like, these pigeons are not getting what they need to be the best versions of themselves.

[Paige]

My Aunt Pam used to have a pet parakeet and her name was Lovey. And she, she was like, this is my favorite pet like I've literally ever had. Like, it was like the sweetest bird ever. And this is like, really morbid. But one day I asked her, like, how. I mean, the bird was alive for like maybe like seven years, maybe 10. I don't know. This was years ago. This. We're going back like 20 years ago. And one day I really wanted to know how she knew it died. And she said that it was literally standing on its perch and it just. No, because it's not funny and it's

[Hannah]

not funny and it's not funny.

[Paige]

I'm not making fun of the death of animals.

[Hannah]

Giving Shrek. When she starts singing really high, the bird pops. No, wait, now I want a bird.

[Paige]

Butter would be like, are you kidding me? Like, butter would have to murder the bird. That's like in their nature.

[Hannah]

This is how deep in our friendship I am. I woke up, I had a dream that me, you, Daphne and Butter were hanging out. And then I looked and but and Daphne was bleeding and I was like, oh my God. And I'm petting. I'm like, daphne's bleeding. And you were like, are you sure? And I'm like, butterfly but scratched her. And I'm like, how to talk to Butter? I said, butter, she has an agent, she has a manager.

[Guest]

She's a team.

[Hannah]

You're going to get sued. You can't act this way. I know she probably said something that pissed you off, but like, you're going to get in trouble now.

[Paige]

So hind legs are actually insured like Jaylah's butt.

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

I'm also on a crazy algorithm. Have you seen the Jojo Siwa Cruise?

[Paige]

No, Paige.

[Hannah]

I watched one video and now I'm getting everyone's tick tocking from the Jojo Siwa cruise.

[Paige]

Where is it? Like where? What's the route?

[Hannah]

I don't know the route, but I do have to say the reviews are incredible. Like 10 out of 10. Everyone's like, this is the greatest cruise of my life.

[Paige]

I think that makes me so happy.

[Hannah]

I think it's because it's not like that many people. So JoJo Si was literally like, talking to everyone. Like, they're giving each other gifts. Like, it's like this community. And these are not like, these are like 30 year old girls going on this cruise. And they just love JoJo siwa. They're getting the best gift bags.

[Paige]

Well, they grew up with her.

[Hannah]

Exactly.

[Paige]

They watch Dance Moms. Yeah.

[Hannah]

And they. They talk about how, like, JoJo gets so much online hate. So to see her doing what she loves is so beautiful. And you know what?

[Paige]

Hell yeah.

[Hannah]

Hell, yeah.

[Paige]

That makes me really happy for her.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

My algorithm is. I keep getting two nuns.

[Hannah]

Oh, with the podcast.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Sister, what's your favorite hobby, Sister?

[Paige]

I don't have a hobby.

[Hannah]

I was like, sister, I've seen you playing ultimate Frisbee. And Sister, you are good.

[Paige]

I literally stopped and was like, this is me and Hannah in a different timeline.

[Hannah]

Wait, imagine if we were nuns.

[Paige]

There's a difference between sisters and nuns.

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I didn't know that.

[Hannah]

What's the difference?

[Paige]

One legitimately devotes their entire life to praying for you. Like, there are there. And I think that's a nun. I'm gonna make sure though, like, there are nuns somewhere right now in a church praying for, like, you. Like, they pray for everyone. Like, that is their job.

[Hannah]

There's factories of prayer where they're mass producing prayer. There's like the sheen of prayer.

[Paige]

It's like a clickbait farm.

[Hannah]

It's.

[Paige]

But it's like a click for prayer.

[Hannah]

I love how you're like, religion is my whole life. No idea. Between a nun and a sister.

[Paige]

Yeah. I had no idea there was a different. A nun lives cloistered and. Which is like, focus on just prayer. And then a sister lives an active life. So, like, if you had a teacher, they're a sister, which I did not know that.

[Hannah]

So. But it sounds like it's a little rectangle square.

[Paige]

A nun takes solemn vows. A sister takes simple vows. So like a solemn vow.

[Hannah]

Can a sister have a boyfriend?

[Paige]

No. Neither of them can.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

So like, if you're a sister, you have a. You live a regular life, you go have a job, but if you're a nun, you're all about prayer.

[Hannah]

I would love some stats of, like, how many people their entire life are part of the sisterhood. Is that what they call it?

[Paige]

Sisterhood of the traveling pants? And they also have a traveling skirt that they send back and forth to each other. No. I wonder, like, if you become a sister or a nun. I wonder how many of them do it for a certain amount of years and then are like, like, see ya.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, I wonder, like, what if I wanted to, like, be a sister for a year, like Paige and how to try new things?

[Paige]

I think I actually. I want to say that I graduated high school. I'm gonna have to ask Stephanie, but I want to say that I graduated high school and a girl went to the nunhood. Yeah, to the nunnery.

[Hannah]

Like, went to the nunnery.

[Paige]

I think my mom actually might have, like, even thought.

[Hannah]

Tried to get you to be a nun.

[Paige]

No. Thought about it, like, for herself. I feel like I have to ask.

[Hannah]

I feel like every. There was an age for Italian women where it's, you become a nun or you get married. Which one do you want? There's no in between. Yeah. They were like, choose Jesus or a guy named Joe.

[Paige]

My second grade teacher was. Her name was Sister Sheila. And she hated me. She hated me so much. She was so mean. I'm not kidding. She was so mean to me. I was, like, stupid. So I didn't know when people were being mean to me. I'd have to go home and tell my mom about it.

[Hannah]

Wait, that's kind of like me and you, though. I feel like I get home from something and I tell you how someone talked to me, and you were like. And you didn't say anything back.

[Paige]

What? Hold on. Say verbatim what they said to you. No. So many times. It's funny with our friendship because, like, obviously we're from reality tv, so, like, I've seen whole dissertations about you, like, on the Internet before, and, like. Like, there are so many things that I've wanted to comment where I was like, like, I will come to your home and kill you.

[Hannah]

I do say one thing. I'm not a fighter. Like, my family never fought. I'm not fighting with my brother. I don't fight with people. I don't fight with my friends. I'm. I'm more of, like, I. I run away from any conflict. The only fights I've had is, like, on the tennis court, which is like. That's just sports.

[Paige]

You're not confrontational.

[Hannah]

No. So, like, on tv, those were, like, the only fights I've ever had in my life. Which is why I think when, like, a man would yell at me, I'd be like, does anyone else see this? This is crazy. I was like, I've never been spoken to. Like, this is my. This is insane.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

This is crazy.

[Paige]

Where I feel like people have been mean to me my whole life.

[Hannah]

Like, when someone yells at me, I was like, calling the police. I'm calling the police.

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[Paige]

Yes. Like, if there's a woman, now we're women. That's mean to me. I'm like, you're not my first mean girl. Like, think of something new. Like, you are not my first sit. Where, like, you're being a bitch to me. Where I feel like, for you, when we were on reality tv, there were a lot of things where you're like, that's my first.

[Hannah]

Like, that's my first time. And I'm. And I'm fighting with seasoned veterans. Okay. Like, I remember the first time I had approached someone about something. I was shaking. Yeah. But also, I've also been, like, bullied a lot growing up. Like, we're similar in different ways. Where, like, people talk shit on me, for sure. But my dad was always like, like, speak with your racket. Like, yeah, it was very, like, do not address the haters. Like, I've never had to sit in a room and, like, talk to someone who I knew, like, wanted to destroy me.

[Paige]

Yeah. Where, like, I. When I see. If I see, like, a rumor about myself or, like, something that's just, like, categorically false or whatever, I'm like, yeah. Like, people have been making up rumors about me since I was in sixth grade.

[Hannah]

Like, and you've, like, confronted people.

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[Paige]

And I'm just like, yeah, I've never confronted. But also, I haven't too. I'm like, so it depends. Yeah. There's some times where I'm like, well, I don't even know you, so why would I confront.

[Hannah]

But that's why it feels so performative, because it's like, cameras everywhere, and you're like, let's see how this goes. And then you're like, oh, and even, like, boyfriends. I never fought with boyfriends. It was more like, no, I never thought.

[Paige]

I've made a whole sport of it.

[Hannah]

Paige, when I tell you, like, yeah, I've had. I've definitely had my fight, but it was. It was like someone would get up and leave. There was never, like, name calling. It never would escalate. And it would be like, it would happen once or twice, and I'm like, and I'm done here.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Or like, someone would get mad and the other one wouldn't.

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[Hannah]

It's like, our friendship. Like, how many times have me and you off camera?

[Paige]

Never. Never. Here's the thing. I do think that you get to a certain Amount of years with a

[Hannah]

friend that, like, like, you just can't do it anymore. Like,

[Paige]

you both have to bow out. You know, like, we're at a point where, like, for us to not be friends again, we would have to do something to the other one. Diabolically, that's so, so crazy that it would be a.

[Hannah]

Someone would be like, trying to self sabotage something. Like. But I would argue because we're so close that it would be us. There would be a sit down and we'd be like, we'd catch it. Are you okay?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

What's going on?

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Also, we can just. It is really a relationship where it's two people. It's like, if we didn't want to make this work, we could have ended it immediately.

[Paige]

Totally. Like, we choose each other. Wait, I was at a wedding every day.

[Hannah]

You heard the vows and you thought of me.

[Paige]

There was a moment where she was like, someone was saying something and I was like. And in my head, I thought, that's true of friendship.

[Hannah]

Also, you raise your hand, you're like, sorry, real quick.

[Paige]

No, because it actually is very true of friendship. You have to actively choose that person every day and be like, that is my friend and I'm gonna treat her like my friend, period.

[Hannah]

And it's almost like Mormon wives where I like to watch, to see, like, who starts hating people. Like, who's the villain? And I realize, like, the villain is who just everyone decides they're over. Because if you look at what actually was done, like, so many things were done by so many people. But it's the thing that everyone decides. Being like, that's a thing that we're not forgiving you for because no one wanted to like that person.

[Paige]

Well, everyone's done bad things before, and everyone's been mad that mean to someone. Everyone's made someone feel hurt. Like, you're alive. That's like what it is supposed to be experiencing life. It's how you change. Or if someone says, you hurt my feelings, it's how you go apologize and don't do it again. Like, that is a whole part of life. You're supposed to make mistakes so that you become a better person.

[Hannah]

In these shows, like, people will straight up apologize. And people like, I don't believe you. But then someone else will apologize. And they're like, we know. We love you. And yeah, that's why also in like a reunion when the girls are all yelling at each other, I'm like, like, but you did that to her too. And you're yelling at her. About it.

[Paige]

Right? Right. Well, reality TV has to be hypocritical because then they wouldn't have a show. Like, everyone can't have the same stance and storyline every year. You have to switch it up or else it would be boring. So a lot of the things people get in trouble for, they. They've done, the accuser has done. It just rotates.

[Hannah]

It literally rotates. There is a crazy documentary out on HBO right now called Paradise P E A R. And it's this guy who, during COVID

[Paige]

Sorry, anytime someone brings up pears, I think of Rick Ross and I just. Sorry, there's just a video of Rick Ross. I'm not kidding. This is like 15 years old. And he just says, shout out to all the payers. Like, like an actual pear. Like, he's like, I love pears. And anytime someone talks about pears, I just think, like, all the pears are so underrated.

[Hannah]

Like, I love a green pear.

[Paige]

You know, I'm not someone to grab a pear from a fruit basket and bite.

[Hannah]

Arguably the best bite is the fat part of a pear.

[Paige]

Like, I probably haven't bit into a pear in 15 years.

[Hannah]

This is an old pearl that I left on my podcast desk from two days ago.

[Paige]

Wow. Are you eating a lot of fruit during the day?

[Hannah]

No, I went. I'm like at home for like a week. So I tried to go grocery shopping and I bought like tons of fruit and I got home and I ate a pear and that was about it. And wow.

[Paige]

I never buy pears.

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[Paige]

Okay, keep going with what you're saying.

[Hannah]

So this guy during COVID he's like this nerd from Berlin and he goes to America and he decided he want to get rich. So he invents this thing, you know, this is so bougie, but, you know, I guess convertibles. You can't put your convertible up while you're moving. Yeah. So he invented something to help whatever the rich people. Can't. Can't stop emotion.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So he buys this mansion in Vegas and he starts telling people, I love plus size women. And I created this thing called Paradise P E A R. He thought he was like so slick for it. And he's like, I want to create a community where women can be themselves and I want to be your friend. Come live with me. And he's. He's has this obsession with women who are like over six feet and over 500 pounds. Like, that's his, like, type of. So these girls who have felt over 500 pounds.

[Paige]

Are there that many people that he's finding that are over £500.

[Hannah]

Well, with the tick tock algorithm, it's like these girls who have felt like outsiders and low self esteem are like, this guy is creating community where I'm the norm. So you walk in and all the girls have the same body type. And I mean, they're all so funny. They're all gorgeous. I'm like, funny. Found, like, the most beautiful women. And. And over time, people are like, he's a creep. And then there's this concept called feederism. Are you aware of feederism?

[Paige]

No.

[Guest]

Okay.

[Hannah]

I actually wasn't that familiar, but it's actually, like, really dangerous. It's like a kink where men like to watch. I don't know if it's just men and women, but people like to watch people eat and have their body change. So, like, they get turned on by women eating and their stomach getting bigger to the point they want the person to eat so much that they, like, can't walk.

[Paige]

Wait, this. Wait, this feels really illegal. This feels like a weird type of abuse.

[Hannah]

But these girls can go on these sites and make money where men will watch them eat and, like, get bigger. But then girls can die from feederism because they're like, need money, but then they're eating so much that their body shuts down. Oh, yeah. So anyway, that's on hbo. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Paige]

Anyway, if you're trying to take the edge off tonight, maybe throw that on. Okay, we really. Today was. Was weird.

[Hannah]

Today was weird. I feel weird. You feel weird, but that's a good way.

[Paige]

Today was really weird. Wait, the last thing, and then we'll leave it on that. Tyra Banks suing Netflix. Did you see that?

[Hannah]

I feel like she should do her own documentary, right? Instead of fighting with Netflix because that has to be expensive.

[Paige]

I'm just interested to follow the story.

[Guest]

Mm.

[Paige]

She's suing them for defamation.

[Hannah]

It's annoying because she was in it, so that's why she probably feels like she can't just do in her own. But I would argue, like, yeah, do your own. We'll watch. Let's. Let's hear your side.

[Paige]

All I do is watch tv. So, yeah, send it to me.

[Hannah]

Her argument was like, Jay Manuel was saying, like, I didn't visit him in the hospital. And she was like, I lived in Australia.

[Paige]

Well, Kelly Catrone was on a podcast recently, and I saw a bunch of clips, clips on TikTok. And she was like, are you kidding? You're gonna make a documentary about how Tyra was awful. She gave you relevance jobs, full careers, and you're gonna sit and make a documentary about how she didn't like. I mean, she was really team Tyra and really against Jay Emanuel.

[Hannah]

I. I do think too, it's easy to be like, Tyra is the worst and everyone else were like innocent angels that were just like, along for the ride. And it's like, that's not. Not. That's never the case. Lastly, I just want to let you guys know you. Apparently you could reorder your grid on Instagram. Have you seen this?

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[Paige]

Is that true though?

[Hannah]

I have it on mind that, like, but I don't love it because it's like too many options. Like, I feel like you are gonna be like obsessed with like changing your grid every five minutes.

[Paige]

Can we hang up and can you like, FaceTime me how you're doing that? Because I need to know that immediately. No, like, you created a monster.

[Hannah]

So you're gonna like. No, like, you're never gonna be available again.

[Paige]

Sorry, I have to go. I have to go.

[Hannah]

Sorry. I'm reorganizing my grid.

[Paige]

Sorry. I'm working on my grid right now. Someone DM me and was like, your grid's really good right now. And I was like, period.

[Hannah]

Period. We love you guys so much. Thanks for giggling and have an amazing week. Bye.

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