Giggling about spanx, stripping, and figure skating

Summary

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Giggly Squad: “Giggling about Spanx, Stripping, and Figure Skating”

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this laugh-filled episode, Hannah and Paige catch up virtually, bouncing between tales of fashion woes, pop culture deep dives, reality TV hot takes, and everyday absurdities. The pair riff on everything from painful Spanx memories, stripping on national TV, figure skating reality pitches, and the realities of growing up (and feeling like an “old woman” as a kid). Listeners are treated to the hosts’ signature brand of self-deprecating humor, witty banter, and candid glimpses into their lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Virtual Vibes & Grumpy Girl Realness

[01:33 - 02:58]

• The episode kicks off with Hannah and Paige recording from different locations, leading to jokes about hair masks and feeling “unserious” despite the podcast’s notability.
• Quote (Paige): “This is the most unserious podcast to ever exist. Hannah, we've been on multiple lists. We've won awards. This is the most unserious hour of my entire week, and people are like, this is her best accolade. I'm like, this is a joke.” [02:13]
• “Normalize being grumpy – let women grump.” – Hannah [01:44]

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2. Weekend Recaps: Spa Days vs. Comedy Tours

[04:14 - 06:08]

• Paige recaps her “spa-like” weekend, full of shopping, tea, and 10,000 steps. Hannah took her mom and uncle on her Texas comedy tour, navigating birthday celebrations, unfamiliar cities, and the perils of dairy.
• Both joke about the beauty of in-person shopping (and the chaos of needing to pee).
• Quote (Paige): “To go shopping and then say, ‘do you want to get lunch?’ That’s my idea of talking dirty.” [04:58]

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3. TikTok Drama, Extensions, and Outsourcing Outrage

[06:30 - 09:08]

• The hosts dissect “Hair by Chrissy” TikTok drama—overpriced influencer extensions and the art of paying for the “main” stylist who barely lifts a finger.
• Paige admits to using clip-in extensions, describing the ritual of removing them as “sensual” self-care.
• Quote (Hannah): “Clip-ins… it's gonna feel so fucking good when I get home and I do it slow. It’s sensual.” [08:25]

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4. Reality TV & Production Fights

[10:58 - 13:14]

• Reality shows are now often more about production drama than on-screen arguments. The pair agree that many “fights” in reality TV stem from production meddling or preserving one’s reputation, especially in shows like the “Mormon Housewives”.
• Quote (Hannah): “The majority of the reason people are fighting on reality TV is because they're mad that someone else is infringing on their reputation." [11:54]

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5. The Mormon/Show Tunes Connection & Dancing with the Stars on Ice

[12:28 - 16:10]

• Hannah shares fascinating facts about many Dancing with the Stars performers being Mormon – leading to an inside joke about religious dance prodigies.
• Dream pitch: “Dancing with the Stars: Figure Skating Edition.” But, Paige foresees carnage!
• Quote (Hannah): “The more I learn about Mormons, the more I’m not surprised. Like, half the people on Dancing with the Stars… are Mormons because, like, they just sat around and danced and sang.” [12:36]

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6. Childhood Nostalgia: Supermarket Sweep and Living Like a 75-Year-Old Woman

[16:10 - 18:19]

• Paige reveals her childhood idolization of “Supermarket Sweep”—the thrill of combining chores and competition.
• Both agree a great childhood includes “living as an old woman” for a few years: day TV, slow mornings, and comfort drinks.
• Quote (Paige): “A good life is circular: the way you start and end your life is the same—but right now we’re in a chaotic moment.” [17:56]

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7. TV Hot Takes: Oscars for Kim K & The Art of the Bad Bob

[41:22 - 47:12]

• The duo deconstruct Kim Kardashian’s acting in “All’s Fair,” exploring why her performance is so polarizing. Is it camp? Is it good? Who cares—it’s fun!
• Quote (Paige): “Why can’t women do it all? Why can’t we do it badly?” [47:12]
• The war on bobs: some styles just aren't for everyone, and that's okay.

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8. Stripping on National TV: The Fallon “Calf-Off” Story

[27:52 - 38:13]

• Hannah recounts the nerve-racking behind-the-scenes story of taking her tights off on Jimmy Fallon in a “calf-off” challenge—a bit hatched by her husband, Des.
• From wardrobe malfunctions to the joys (and traumas) of Spanx, the saga is equal parts embarrassing and triumphant.
• Quote (Hannah): “The calf gods were watching over me and, like, the bit couldn't have worked better, but, like, there was a 3% chance that was gonna hit.” [37:33]

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9. On Teleprompters, Hosting, and Meeting Celebrities Awkwardly

[38:30 - 40:49]

• Paige discusses the oddity of meeting celebs for the first time with cameras rolling: “This isn’t how I wanted us to meet.”
• They riff on their teleprompter skills—Paige admits she’s unexpectedly great on prompter, even if she’s anxious reading out loud normally.

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10. The Art of Doing Nothing, Boundaries, and Letting Go

[55:00 - 56:14]

• Sunday nights are for existential dread, reflecting on upcoming weeks, and learning to cancel stuff that doesn’t spark joy.
• Hannah has been practicing boundaries and says “no” more, much to her own benefit.
• Quote (Hannah): “I've been trying to tell myself it's not going to be as bad as you think it's going to be. But… whatever's really pissing me off, like, I'm canceling it.” [55:38]

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11. Adulting Rants: Hand Soaps, Diners, and Broccoli Omelets

[60:27 - 68:25]

• The hosts complain that straight men never have both soap and a towel in their bathrooms.
• Paige reveals her new obsession: microwaved peas with butter, eaten with a spoon. Hannah advocates for broccoli in omelets, lamenting the lack of broccoli on diner menus.
• Quote (Hannah): “Broccoli kind of tastes like potato in an omelet.” [65:56]

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12. Modern Tech & Long-Distance Love: The Gospel of Furbo

[56:22 - 59:32]

• Hannah gushes about finally giving in and setting up her Furbo pet cam for Butter, discovering her dog is just napping, not having an existential crisis.
• Quote (Hannah): “Furbo is the only thing to get you out of depression. Right before I went on stage, I was just looking at my fur bow and I'm saying, I love you, Butter. I love you.” [57:40]

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “Let women grump.”—Hannah [01:44]
• “To go shopping and then say, 'do you want to get lunch?' … That's my favorite day ever."—Paige [04:58]
• “We used to raw dog bodycon dresses.”—Paige [33:59]
• “The majority of the reason people are fighting on reality TV is because they're mad that someone else is infringing on their reputation.”—Hannah [11:54]
• “Clip-ins… it's gonna feel so fucking good when I get home and I do it slow. It’s sensual.”—Hannah [08:25]
• “Why can't women do it all? Why can't we do it badly?"—Paige [47:12]
• “I've been trying to tell myself it's not going to be as bad as you think… but whatever's really pissing me off, like, I'm canceling it.”—Hannah [55:38]
• “Furbo is the only thing to get you out of depression. Right before I went on stage, I was just looking at my fur bow and I'm saying, I love you, Butter.”—Hannah [57:40]

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Flow & Tone

Throughout the episode, Hannah and Paige maintain their signature blend of irreverence, honesty, and ridiculousness. Topics change fast, but so does the laughter. The hosts share embarrassing moments, nostalgic memories, and reactions to pop culture with zero filter, inviting listeners to laugh at life’s awkwardness, messiness, and unpredictability.

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• [01:33] — “Let women grump.” / Opening chit-chat
• [04:14] — Weekend Recaps: Paige's spa days & Hannah’s comedy tour with family
• [06:30] — TikTok drama & hair extensions confessions
• [10:58] — Reality TV is all about production drama now
• [12:28] — Mormon Housewife dance prodigies
• [15:15] — Hannah’s reality TV pitch: Dancing With the Stars on Ice
• [16:10] — “Supermarket Sweep” and living like an old woman as a kid
• [27:52] — Hannah’s “calf-off” on Fallon: behind the scenes
• [41:22] — Kim Kardashian’s acting: camp, cringe, or both?
• [55:00] — Sunday scaries, emotional boundaries, & cancelling plans
• [56:22] — Furbo, pet cams, and long-distance relationship tech quirks
• [60:27] — Rants about soap in men’s bathrooms, diner foods, and omelet opinions

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Memorable Closes

• Paige tries to keep peas out of omelets.
• The pair riff on random historical names, declaring, “Who is Ponce de Leon?”—before dissolving into a classic Giggly Squad laugh spiral.
• They wrap up with light-hearted updates: Hannah’s headed to Florida for shows, Paige’s new Daphne Latte Stripe is launching.

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For New Listeners

This episode is classic Giggly Squad: fast, topical, and heavy on the giggles. If you haven’t listened, expect candid pop culture opinions, all-too-relatable adulting rants, mental health check-ins, and a wild ride through the hosts’ personal life stories—one minute they’re discussing Spanx-induced trauma, the next they’re pitching figure skating reality TV, then suddenly, you’re learning about the emotional highs of eating peas with a spoon. Wherever you drop in, you’ll leave smiling (and maybe considering broccoli in your next omelet).

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

So I recently had one of those moments where I stood in front of my closet and I said, I have nothing to wear while surrounded by hundreds of things I never touch. So I started listing them on Depop. And honestly, it's amazing. You can sell the pieces you're over, and someone out there will be obsessed with them. And the best part? There's no seller fees. None. So the money you make actually stays in your pocket, which feels very chic. Plus, it's so easy. I listed something while watching TV and it sold before the episode even ended. Depop isn't just one aesthetic either. It's all of them. Minimal streetwear, date night. Whatever your vibe is, there's someone who shares it. So download the Depop app and list your first item today, because your old outfit might be someone else's new favorite. And don't forget to tune in to our latest bonus episode, where Hannah and I will take calls from the Giggly Squad style hotline. We're helping solve your fashion dilemmas, shopping woes, and style questions. Submit yours now at giggly style hotline.com for a chance to get your question answered by us on the show Depop, where taste recognizes taste. Hey, it's Paige Desorbo from Giggly Squad. Head home for the holidays with Abercrombie and Fitch. We all know our calendars are about to get chaotic for non stop plans, and Abercrombie has the pieces to curate your perfect seasonal wardrobe. Sweaters and denim for casual plans, party dresses for nights out, and comfy matching sets for everything in between. Keep the chaos cute this season in Abercrombie. Shop their new holiday outfits in the app, online or in stores. Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your WI fi.

[B]

Manifest that shit.

[A]

We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me.

[B]

What's up, my grumpy gigglers? This is what I'm saying. I. We need to normalize being grumpy. Okay? It's okay to be grumpy. Let women grump.

[A]

Oh, I thought you were gonna talk about, like. If you're watching this podcast, we're in two different places. We're virtual, which I love when we're virtual because I always do a hair mask when we're virtual.

[B]

Or you had your hair fully up on a towel last time. You didn't even mask it.

[A]

I didn't even try.

[B]

You were in the shower during the last pod.

[A]

I was showering. No, I just want to say that this is the most unserious podcast to ever exist. Hannah, we've been on multiple lists. We've won awards. This is the most unserious hour of my entire week. And people are like, this is her best accolade. I'm like, this is a joke.

[B]

I literally just had a lady yell out of a car going, giggly girl. I don't even have a real name anymore. I don't even have a real name. Wait, can I also just let everyone know I just got my period.

[A]

I just finished mine not to make it about me. I'm so sorry. I'm trying to work on that.

[B]

We're both. I just got my period. I also just got off a four hour flight. I also just had three shows this weekend. I also think I. I have really bad. I think I have a sinus infection, but besides that, I feel really good.

[A]

I wouldn't wish a sinus infection on my worst enemy.

[B]

It's my go to. Like, when my body wants to shut down. That's my. You know, like, you have UTIs. I've signed. My UTI is up my nose.

[A]

See, I've only ever had one sinus infection, and I'm not kidding. I thought I was dying.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, it's.

[A]

That's like some of the worst pain ever.

[B]

It becomes mental too. You're like, it's. It's dark, but yeah, wait. I miss you.

[A]

No, I miss you so much. I promise to the gigglers that, like, we're gonna settle down and get like a studio space that's like giggly squad centric and we're gonna record in it every week.

[B]

But I think it's funny to have some that I'm in LA looking like Joe Rogan and you're just at a spa.

[A]

At a retreat jail wearing Daphne.

[B]

Also, I have headphones on. Like, I'm in the zone right now.

[A]

For what? You're in the zone for what?

[B]

I don't know. Making silly, silly jokes.

[A]

I went. I had, like, one of the most relaxing weekends.

[B]

We had a very different weekend.

[A]

We had very different weekends. And I had a relaxing weekend in such a page way.

[B]

What did you do?

[A]

And by that I mean I hit my 10,000 steps. I drank tea on Friday night. I went shopping at an outlet on Saturday. I love a sale. I love a bar. Again, like, I literally touched so much grass.

[B]

I was gonna say bring back shopping in person.

[A]

Like, it's. It's one of my favorite things to.

[B]

Do to see something, touch it, try it on the dressing room, realize it looks stupid on you. Like, that's a memory we all miss.

[A]

And like, to go shopping and then say, do you want to get lunch? Is like, sorry, that's my version of like, don't talk dirty to me. Like, that is so. I'm like, oh, my. That's my. That. That's my favorite day ever, is to go to a couple stores and then stop and have lunch, go to a.

[B]

Couple stores, get overstimulated, have to talk to some people you don't want to talk to, and then have to pee really bad and not know where to pee. Then. That's my idea of a perfect afternoon.

[A]

Yeah. What was your weekend like?

[B]

Well, I took my mom and my uncle on tour with me. Cause my uncle, it was his birthday, and he's like, I want you to take me on tour. And I'm like, whatever you're into, I don't judge. It's not gonna.

[A]

Yep. Let me just preface with it's not glamorous.

[B]

So they've never been to Texas, my mom and my uncle. So they're like, we wanna come with you to Texas. So we went to Houston, Austin, and Dallas. The same run we did.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Mm. And it didn't. It wasn't good for my dairy. It was. I. Now my new thing is just posting online, being like, is this dairy? And it's just cheese enchiladas? And everyone's like, no, it doesn't count in Texas.

[A]

I was just gonna say Texas has their own set of rules. And dairy is. They're doing, like. They're doing more than dairy. What are they doing? They're doing, like, that. What's the thing that people get so mad on TikTok about? That's one of my favorite things about TikTok. People can get so mad about things. And I'm like, I don't even know what that is to get mad at it.

[B]

I love when there's drama about something I don't know. And I get to start on the ground floor, and sometimes I can't find the original TikTok that people are even mad about. But I'll still get an opinion on it.

[A]

I'm like, I need the root of this argument.

[B]

My current niche one. Have you heard. Heard about Hair by Chrissy?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. This girl, Hair by Chrissy. I don't know where she's located. It seems like Texas. It could be la. And it's this lady that owns a salon that all these, like, influencers go to. So this young girl goes, hey, I just paid $4,000 for hair by Chrissy. And she came over for, like, a minute and, like, Touched my hair for like 90 seconds total. And I feel scammed. So the Internet is losing their mind on whether if you.

[A]

Who did the girl's hair?

[B]

She basically is like, what do you want? And then she'd get like five other girls to do everything else, but she'll come in and like curl one hair or like check it to make sure it looks good. So like. Yeah, that's outsourcing.

[A]

She's outsourcing. She's giving you like a consultation and saying you got your hair done by her. But really she's like outsourced the work.

[B]

Yeah. And I think the proud also. What 13 year old is paying four grand for a.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait. She was 13, I'm.

[B]

She's 13. I don't you know anyone, Anyone who's young nowadays?

[A]

I don't know, but this is like, this is like.

[B]

She was like, yeah, she was like 18.

[A]

Okay, got it, got it. No, I, I'm not abreast with that.

[B]

TikTok also, these girls are getting like extensions sewn in. I feel like that would give me a headache immediately. I'd be like, can you take it off? Like after eight hours I'd be like, wait, it's kind of itching me. Can you take it off?

[A]

It's interesting because you've been wearing extensions for like a couple weeks now. Clip ins. You're using clip ins. And you don't think that you could ever.

[B]

No.

[A]

Run with the big dogs.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I can't be with the Mormon housewife. This is my thing though. What I love about clip ins, they put it in. You're like, that's uncomfortable. But it's gonna feel so fucking good when I get home. And I do it slow too. Like I. I put up my phone on do not disturb and I slowly unclip them with some, like, with some music. It's sensual.

[A]

It's a. It's just gonna say you're learning your own body. You're like that bad touch. No, don't like that.

[B]

I'm like, des, can you scratch my head? No, he's busy. I'm over here with my. And then, yeah, I. So I've been enjoying my clippies, my clip ins, but I become a monster with them.

[A]

You've become a monster?

[B]

Yeah. When I have clip ins, I like, I think I'm Ariana Grande in Wicked. I'm like, what right.

[A]

Have you watched? It's all her fault or all her fault.

[B]

I started it. I love Sarah Snook also. I love the name Sarah Snook. If my name was Sarah.

[A]

Wait, who is that?

[B]

The Australian redhead.

[A]

Oh, is that her name? Yeah, yeah, her real name.

[B]

Yeah, she was named after Snooki. No, if my name was Sarah Snook, I'd be like, hi, I'm Sarah Snook. Nice to meet you. It's double S reporting to business.

[A]

Can I tell you that I've actually re Been re watching Jersey Shore, and I'm at. And I'm on season five, and there's. I'm not kidding. This is gonna sound so insane. There's something extremely calming about it.

[B]

Well, it's also, like, a beautiful, simple time when, like, our biggest worry was our Facebook wall.

[A]

I didn't realize how much drama happened on that show.

[B]

Wait, are they in Italy yet? Did they go to Italy yet?

[A]

We did Italy. We're back in the Jersey Shore.

[B]

So the situation, which, by the way, the fact that his name was the situation. That is so many syllables for a nickname.

[A]

I don't remember in real time where he was like, a full. A full on drug addict. And then they came back for season six and was like, I'm sober now. Like, I was skipping over that.

[B]

His head into the drywall in Italy.

[A]

To get home because he was out of drugs. It's so funny because, like, watching reality TV and then them like. Like, hearing like, okay, well, this is. This happened because he wanted more drugs. But, like, as the viewer, you would have never known that. It's just so funny to watch now knowing, like, all the lore.

[B]

Can I give a reality TV hot take? Which we occasionally do. We are at the point I haven't been watching reality tv. However, I believe I sent it in the ether. We're at the point where we need to let people fight about production, because at the end of the day, I think everyone understands now that the fights are about production. So.

[A]

Yes. Well, I've been watching Mormon Housewives, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and they're that their whole.

[B]

Their whole thing is about production. Well, the first season tends to not be about production because people are, like, actually getting to know each other. But then it becomes, and let me say, a general example. I'm not saying this happened to anyone, but it'll be like, you're in the car, and they're like, okay, wait, like, 30 minutes. You get there, and some girls like, why are you always late? You can't say production told me to or you do, but obviously they cut that part. And they're like, I don't like your attitude. I hate you. Next thing you know, it's a huge fight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All because of production.

[A]

The majority of the reason people are fighting on reality TV is because they're mad that someone else is infringing on their reputation.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, you're fucking. Like, you're fucking with how I'm coming off to America and now I have to kill you.

[B]

Yes, yes, yes. So sometimes things might not look that bad. Like, they're like, hey, she's just asking her a question. It's like, no, that question. The fact you're the one that agreed to ask me that is fucked up. Also, do you know Mormons are, like, incredible at show tunes?

[A]

The more I learn about Mormons, the more I'm not surprised. Yeah. What else would they do but be able to sing and dance? They can't drink.

[B]

Like, half the people on Dancing with the Stars. My new religion are Mormons because, like, the Huff Brother Sister are Mormons. Whitney's obviously Mormon. Riley Arnold is Mormon. I know you don't know these names, but they're huge in the dance community.

[A]

No, I actually. I didn't know Julianne Hough was Mormon.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, because they just sat around and, like, danced and sang, and the gay male Mormons were like, this is awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they, like, toss each other around and shake beds, but I'm not getting into it. One note about Dancing with the Stars. I have ideas for this brand because it's doing so well this year. We need to expand. I pitch.

[A]

What is it? This. No, truly, I think it's, like, very interesting. Dancing with the Stars has been on for, what, like, 20 years?

[B]

I've talked to my sources. I've talked to my sources, and it.

[A]

Was the biggest thing ever to come on tv. Then it, like, went and had a lull. Then it was almost seen as, like, if you went on Dancing with the Stars, your career was over. That was your final, like, hurrah.

[B]

Went on Dancing with the Stars.

[A]

Now all of a sudden, it's having this, like, Gen Z resurgence. Gen Z's obsessed with things millennials did in, like. It's really crazy. They're, like, really obsessed with, like, how we partied in high school.

[B]

I think it's because we're so close.

[A]

But so far, they're obsessed with 2000. Like, 4 to 2016.

[B]

Like, just listen to ke doll. Just listen to Kesha and you'll get it. Like, listen to KE$ and put navy eyeliner on your under lid, and that's it.

[A]

But what is it that, like, Dancing with the Stars had that comeback.

[B]

There's a social media girl that works for them that is doing so well with their TikToks. And so basically the last two years, it's kind of like our podcast. Like, our podcast is doing well. And then we started posting all our clips and they started doing that much better. I also. Let's give credit to Alex Earle. Let's give credit to the Mormon housewives. These. These, like, people who aren't considered Hollywood famous, who are actually more famous than a listers in some capacity, are bringing, like, serious views to the show and serious. Wait. I feel like a ESPN reporter for Dancing with No.

[A]

Why do I.

[B]

No, like, actually, I. I've changed.

[A]

No, this visual is really fucking with me because I have like, multiple lights because I looked dead. I feel like I'm in the chair. I'm at CNN headquarters and I'm like, we actually have Hannah on the scene right now. Hannah, what are you seeing?

[B]

Thank you so much, Paige. Hope you're doing well. I want to pitch a Dancing with the Stars doing different things and I realize what it has to be and it's going to be violent and there will be blood, but I want to see Dancing with the Stars figure skating. Wow. Okay.

[A]

I'm sure they've thought about it me out.

[B]

I've heard. I saw. I was watching figure skaters and it was reminding me of Dancing with the Star. That's literally just dancing on ice. I mean, a lot. Disney on Ice. Hello. Hulu. Hello. The brand's already there. The problem is, is you can lose multiple fingers. You could.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you know, people break noses in the dance. You could. They could slice. Your innards could fall out. Is that good TV though? Is that good tv? Is that good?

[A]

I. Yeah, like, you're slice it now. I actually already. I already thought about it. Declined my offer. Thank you so much.

[B]

Well, you were. Anything physical, you're not getting involved. I do. I do feel like people like to ask, though.

[A]

They're like, Paige, if there's one reality show that from my childhood I would partake in if they brought it back was called Supermarket Sweep. And it was people that used to be timed going through the grocery store. And I thought that it was some of the best television to ever grocery store.

[B]

That was just a way of tricking people to do chores.

[A]

Yeah. I loved it. And it was like you had to guess what was on sale and your items had to add up to a certain number and you had to. It was just Supermarket Sweep and I loved it.

[B]

That was very Italian. Mom of You.

[A]

Well, I would actually watch it with my aunt Pam in the summer.

[B]

Crushed. And Pam is like, look at these fucking amateurs. Yeah.

[A]

While my grandma would, like, make it like making dinner.

[B]

They can't even find the protocol. They can't find the protocol. What the fuck is this guy doing? Whenever it was a man, I'm like, why is he doing this? This man?

[A]

When people say that they had, like really good childhoods, it's the similarity between people that had good childhoods, it's that they lived a certain amount of years as an old woman. Like, like, like I lived a certain amount of years as a 75 year old smoker. You know, like, like I had my shows, I woke up late, I had like morning coffee, I had debriefs, you know, like, I, like, I went to bed late and I sipped on Pepsi while like a Yankee game was on, you know, like I was an old woman.

[B]

The truth is, a good life is circular. The way you start your life and end your life is the same. Unfortunately, right now we're in a little bit of a chaotic moment. But I started. You know, you're like watching morning tv, you know, because you have nothing to do during the day.

[A]

You're having a slow morning.

[B]

Oh, the peaceful. You have chocolate milk for no reason yourself.

[A]

It's like, not that big a deal.

[B]

You can say anything you want. You could say inappropriate things, you could forget things. And everyone goes, oh, that was cute. That's when you're old and young. But this age, we can't get away with it as much anyway. So. Yeah, Dancing with the Stars on Ice. Maybe it won't work. Wait, what show? Okay. I wanted, as you guys know, like, I'm an artist. I actually like, kind of wanted to be on Project Runway. As a designer? No, but not to, like have a fashion line. Like, just to make stuff. Like, I like the idea of like.

[A]

This is so you.

[B]

This is so you.

[A]

You're like, I actually really want to do this, but first I'm going to change it to what I think it should be. I'm going to do it.

[B]

And then I, I wasn't like thinking fashion industry. I was like, okay, I can make a sick dress out of this. Whatever they're trying to do. Like, I'm an idea person. I'm an idea. I'm a creative director. So I was into that stuff. But yeah, anything. Survivor? No. Mtv? Yeah. Made. Is that what it's called?

[A]

Oh, I thought you were gonna be made. Sorry, I thought you were gonna MTV made. And then you were Gonna.

[B]

What would you have wanted to be made into?

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. These were, like, such good ones at the time. Like, it was people being like, I want to be like, captain of the cheerleading squad. I want to be like. It was like, very sports related. So, like, when I would watch it and I was younger, I was like, I want to be like the dance captain. I was gonna say now. I wanna be made into someone who doesn't have anxiety, you know, like.

[B]

The.

[A]

Dance captain is for someone else.

[B]

And that's my segue to our documentary of the week, Eddie Murphy.

[A]

I saw it. I didn't click on it, but I. I figured you watched it this sweet.

[B]

I'm gonna cry. This sweet, sweet, sweet man. Eddie Murphy at one point says, happiness is not about how much money you make, how much fame you have. Da da da da. It's how much peace you have in your mind.

[A]

It's so true.

[B]

And my king, Eddie Murphy blows up in the 80s. Like, he was the first. He was like, one of the first leading black actors to, like, star in a huge, huge Hollywood movie that, like, financially killed it. And he was the biggest star of the 80s. And he'd, like, be hanging out with Rick James. He's doing music. He could do every impression, whatever. He also doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. Honestly, Eddie and I, like, would have hung out.

[A]

He doesn't drink.

[B]

He doesn't drink in the 80s. He's hanging out with Rick James. He said shit would get kind of weird and then he would just, like, leave. But he'd hang out all the time. And he was just like, incredible. But this is the sad thing about it. People started to, you know, do impressions of him because he was. Got so popular. And he had this laugh, this classic laugh where he'd be like, I think that was his laugh. He was like, anyway, it was the best laugh ever. He changed his laugh. He changed his laugh because people, like, I guess they were kind of making fun of him, but that was, like, how they would do, like, an SNL impression of him. And you're watching him and he's doing, like, a different laugh the whole documentary. And you're like, where's Eddie? But it got me thinking.

[A]

That's so sad and also so dramatic.

[B]

But also so fucking real. Because I don't know about you, I've been told I have annoying laughs. And I think I've changed my laughs through the years depending on who my best friend is. Like, do you know how, like, you ever, like, hang out with someone and they have a certain laugh and next thing you know you both are like, together.

[A]

I think that's just like symbiosis, though. I think that's just like osmosis.

[B]

I feel like sometimes I've changed my laugh based on. Well, all girls have had a moment where we've changed our laugh around our crush. Like, you've been like.

[A]

I went through like a week in like 8th grade where I changed my voice.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

Where I was just like, like I swallowed a lot more than I normally did.

[B]

What? I don't know. Why?

[A]

Because, like, I met a girl and she like, sounded cool and she like smiled a lot and I was like, yeah, like I'm.

[B]

I think she had a saliva problem. I think she had. She had a sinus infection.

[A]

She had like, yeah, she had overactive saliva.

[B]

That was like when I thought it was cool in elementary school to do a half smile. So I would do half smiles. All my photos and how much is going to go like this? I thought it was so cool.

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Look, we got to get ratings in these streets. Wait, Paige and I haven't. Paige messaged me and she goes, did you just do what I think you did on Fallon? I said, yes, I did. And she goes, save it for giggly squad. And I said, I'll speak to you then. So here we are. Can I defend myself?

[A]

I'm watching it and I'm like, it starts normal.

[B]

Starts normal. Starts normal though. Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, but she's wearing tights. Like, I'm not getting it until then. Like the final moment. I'm like, but she's in tights. And you're like, and I'll just rip them. I'm like.

[B]

All my dams were like, check on page. Check on page.

[A]

I hate to say this, Jimmy, Jimmy found. Has no cabs.

[B]

Okay, so this is the behind the scenes of how this came about. When you go on a show, they have a producer that calls you and it's like, so what do you want to talk about now? This is what's tough with me and you. We be talking like my stories are out there. Anything that's ever been done.

[A]

But let me tell you something. Something that is stressful is like when someone emails you and is like a producer from the Jimmy Fallon show is going to call you and ask you like the funniest things you can say in five min minutes. Go. And you're like, I don't have any friends or a life. I have funny things to say. Like, that's my immediate thought. I'm like, I don't do anything.

[B]

They're like, do you have any funny stories? And I'm like, well. So they go, last time you were on, you did the worm and it was a mate with the team. Loved it. And I was like, thank you. They go, so what else can you do? I said, oh, that's. That was it, babe. Like, that's all I have. That's all I have to give. And she's like, do you have any other skills? And I'm like, I could play tennis, but we don't have a tennis court. And I'm like, I could kind of juggle any talent.

[A]

Any talent at all.

[B]

I go, I could juggle. And she's like, okay, with what? And I'm like, balls. And she's like, not like, any knives? I was like, no, no. Glass balls. And I'm like, but not, like, under pressure. And she's like, okay. I'm like, for, like, 10 seconds, I could juggle. And she's like, okay, okay, we'll go with that. So I get off the phone, I go to dez, and I'm like, I just told Jimmy Falcon show I was gonna juggle. And he was like, that makes no sense. That makes no sense. Like, no one wants to see you juggle. Also, you're not a juggler. Like, I've never seen you juggle before. So Des is.

[A]

Dez, is that, like, you're not very.

[B]

Pretty and you're not very bright?

[A]

Like, anytime we say an idea to dez, he's like, how have you guys made it this far in life?

[B]

Like, you guys are so lucky Des is here to veto my shit. Yeah.

[A]

He'll genuinely look at us and be like, people ask you questions, and they look to you for the answers. How.

[B]

But this is. Des and I work together creatively very well. Because as you. I told you guys, I'm an ideas person. I'm coming up with ideas, and Des is just slashing them down. And when you're done, some say he goes, email them right now. You want to know what?

[A]

It's nice to know that no matter where we are in our lives, we'll always have someone that isn't a yes person. He's more of a no guy. And we need that. We need that.

[B]

Well, the truth is, the man is honest with me. My honest king. And every now and then. Does it hurt? Yeah.

[A]

There have been a couple real stingers. Yeah.

[B]

My scorpio king. But he's like, no, email them right now. You're not juggling. And I'm like, okay, well, I don't have. What other skill? Cause I don't have that many stories. And he was like, what? Why don't you do a calf off? It was Dez's idea. And I was like, that is interesting. I'll pitch it to them. I'll see what they say. So I pitch it to them. They say, I don't hear anything back. So I'm like, I think that's a Good thing. And then I'm in the green room.

[A]

No news is good news.

[B]

No news is good news. No, shut. Write that down. So now when you've gone to the Fallon show a couple times, the Tonight show, at first he. He introduced himself to you, but now it's like. I feel like we go way back. So, like, he walks into the green room, and he's like, hey, saw you at the Ryder Cup. I'm like, jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. What's good? And then I go, it's crazy that you agreed to the calf off. And he goes, oh, I didn't.

[A]

He's like, but my team told me.

[B]

That apparently we're doing it.

[A]

No stories.

[B]

He goes, I didn't agree to it, but I guess we're doing it. And I'm like, okay. So we're laughing. He leaves. And then I realize I'm wearing tights. So this is, like, all happening a little too close to showtime.

[A]

So now, when you were. Now, you didn't think when you were putting the tights on didn't cross your mind?

[B]

Oh, well, shout out to Hue. Hue. They have incredible tights. Wait. I actually almost had a full meltdown in the green room because. Oh, God. Okay. I put on my skims.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

And then I put on my tights, and I. The tights had, like, a lining that then when I put my dress over it, you could see the line ever so slightly.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And actually, Grace was sitting there, and they were like. We could see this bump in your dress, and they're like, can you take off the Spanx? Take off the tights and then put it on with the Spanx. No, no. The way I almost had a meltdown. So I'm fighting for my life back there. I'm fighting for my life. Labia out. At this point, Spanx are one of.

[A]

Those things that, like, humbling. No, here's the thing. No one warns you for the first. I'm not getting. It's like, emotional. No one warns you for the first time that someone says to you. Do you have any Spanx for under that? Where you're like, sorry, I'm. I think I.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

I think I misheard you. You want me to put Spanx on under this? Like, my mom wears spank? Like, it's very.

[B]

We used to raw dog bodycon dresses.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you remember the days American Apparel bodycon dress, Throw it on, show up to the house party. That was freeing. Nowadays. Yeah.

[A]

I need to stuff myself a bat mitzvah. You become a woman when someone says, here are your first set of spanks, that is. You were there.

[B]

One of our shows with my mom, where my mom looked at me, took off her Spanx, and gave me her Spanx, because she's like, you're not going on stage like that.

[A]

I'm going on stage with no Spanx.

[B]

So anyway, I'm fighting for my life, and then I look at the producer, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm. And these tights are gorgeous. And they go with the outfit. This. Like, we have to figure something out. And she goes, oh, okay. We'll bring out a scissor for you. And I was like, okay. And I'm, like, turned to grace. I'm like, am I about to, like, like, bleed to death on Demi Pal and trying to, like.

[A]

Oh, you got nervous to use the scissors?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not a, like, collage artist. I don't know how to. I've never cut a tight before. With a little adrenaline, I'll mess up anything.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, with a camera on me, who knows what can go wrong?

[A]

So crazy. Because I'd be like, I'm not gonna be strong enough in the moment to rip my tight. I'm gonna need the scissors. Where you were like, I will accidentally stab everyone in the audience. My second brain can't be trusted on live television.

[B]

I'm literally like a toddler. I'm like, you can't give me scissors without an adult in the room. Like, what?

[A]

You're like, my mom's not even here.

[B]

No. And then there wasn't, like, a practice run with it, obviously, so I'm. But this is again where I think we have to talk about mindset, because I was in there feeling good. I didn't have a beta blocker. I was excited to see Jimmy. I liked some of my stories, and I said, I'm gonna leave the rest to God.

[A]

Let go and let God.

[B]

When I look back at it, so.

[A]

Many things in Jersey Shore. Vinny just got that tattoo across his chest, so it's actually aligned. So timely. It's so aligned. Let go and let God.

[B]

St. Anthony was watching over me. I knew that so. So many things could have gone wrong, especially because we start the bit, and I assume someone's gonna give me a scissor, but no one gives me a scissor. And I said, oh, they're about to let the monster out of its cage. And. And I said, I'm about to be the Hulk, and I'm gonna.

[A]

You're on. You're on.

[B]

You're like, this is live. There's no scissors. And I. And I was like, we're ripping it. And somehow imagine if I were to rip it and it, like, you can't really see the calf. Like, this is. This is the finale.

[A]

It could have been the wrong spot. It could have been too high.

[B]

I could have not opened it. But, like, yeah, that's something you would do. Like, I'm so weak. I'm so little. But also, I do have to say I did Google Jimmy Fallon calf beforehand, and there's one paparazzi shot of him running, and I was like, I think I could take him. I think I could take him. I saw what I need to see. So anyway, I rip it and the crowd has a great reaction and I kind of laugh and I walk off stage and I'm like, did it work? And the whole everyone backstage was like, your calf has never looked bigger. And I'm like, hannah, it.

[A]

I think I said this to you. It looked like someone inserted a dinner plate in your calf. I was like, how is it so angular?

[B]

The calf gods were watching over me and, like, the bit couldn't have worked better, but, like, there was a 3% chance that was gonna hit.

[A]

I also think, like, the coloring of the tight was, like, adding a little contour. Like, it was doing something. The only thing I could think of and actually the majority of my DMs was that you shaved your legs. Because I was like, if there's a.

[B]

Zoom in, I'm going to be so real. There was, like, two day old hair that if they zoomed in, they would have seen. But I had bigger problems in that moment. Like, I was worried about a lot of things. Also, all I do is try to not rip tights. So there was something very satisfying about just ripping a tight.

[A]

Something rebellious.

[B]

Yeah. Like, let out your anger by, like, ripping an old tight you don't want. Mm. But, um, so, yeah, that's how all that came to be.

[A]

So that's. Yeah, that's how that all played out also. Awesome.

[B]

Just raising awareness about these. These talk shows. And when you, like, are promoting something, it's crazy because sometimes you meet people, like, with the camera on you. Like, I did the Today show and Chloe Feynman was there, and I've never met her. So the moment I meet her is us, me walking on stage and the camera's on. So you're in, like, camera mode. You're like, hey, hey. Hi. Nice to meet you. Like, it's the weirdest thing. Like, the first time I met Kelly Clarkson. I was doing. I was hosting a game show, and I'm like, this isn't how I wanted us to meet.

[A]

Then you were standing like that.

[B]

Yeah, I literally was just standing like that.

[A]

You're in game show host.

[B]

She was watching me read off a card. That's my nightmare. That's your nightmare?

[A]

That's my nightmare. Except I can do teleprompter, like, eerily good.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

If it's, like, the only thing I know how to do.

[B]

I imagine you in school being like, can we do teleprompter instead of book? Thanks. I really shine.

[A]

In college, like, being like, a journalism major. I was so bad at everything except Sept. When we were, like, in studio and, like, I could literally could not read out loud in class. But once there was a teleprompter on me that I knew, like, a camera was watching me. I was Shakespeare. I couldn't. I couldn't stop speaking.

[B]

Also, I came at Leslie Bibb and Jenna Hager Bush about bobs. I sat down and it was like a fun bit, like, I just want to war in America against Bob's. And Leslie was like, why would you say that? Why are you coming from my throat? I just met you.

[A]

Wait. I'm obsessed with Leslie Bibb and her TikTok. She, like, has a house upstate that she's like, I think it's upstate that she's, like, redoing.

[B]

She's the sweetest angel. Also stone in stonen. But I just want to, like, let people know that, like, just because the BOB works on some people, it doesn't work for everyone. And I suppose raising awareness.

[A]

Okay, I'm actually really happy you said that, because as someone who's had a bob, I can't say that.

[B]

No, you can't, because you pull it off.

[A]

I can't say that to people. Like, it's not for everyone, like, because that would come off really true. But you over there with your clip in extensions, you can say, hey, a bob's not for everyone.

[B]

It's. No, it's not. Because I look like a. A scared Victorian boy.

[A]

You look like an Apprentice in the 1760s.

[B]

Like that evil king from Shrek.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. What else?

[B]

Anyway, Eddie Murphy was in Shrek. Two Eddie Murphy movies. You guys have to watch Mulan. He was the lizard. And Shrek when he's the donkey. We have to watch some old nostalgic movies just to enjoy life again and to smile.

[A]

What do you think about Kim Kardashian not passing the bar? Wait, we haven't Even really talked about all this. Wait, not really. We haven't talked about it at all?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about it.

[B]

You go first.

[A]

It makes me so sad because, like, I don't know what that show is. Like, I. And this is someone who. I love the Kardashians. I literally support anything and everything that they do. Kim is one of those people. People where she's like, it's one in a million. Like, I would watch her on TV do anything. Is she gonna win an Oscar? No, not. Absolutely not. But if she wants to keep being in shows, I'm gonna keep watching them because I like the way she looks. I like her outfits. I like the vibe. I like the aesthetic. I saw someone describe the show as very camp, and I don't know what camp really ever means.

[B]

No one does. No one does. And it's.

[A]

That's exactly what the show is.

[B]

I agree with you.

[A]

I don't really.

[B]

I went through a lot of different emotions, and I was texting you throughout it. So the first three minutes.

[A]

And I love every actress in it.

[B]

Obsessed. The first three minutes are. You don't know if it's a comedy or a drama. Like, I couldn't tell if Sarah Paulson was being sarcastic or if she was seriously act. I do think it was a. I was confused. And then Kim Kardashian, some of her lines seem like everyone else is acting. And then it looks like they went to her and just, like, got the line and then they put it in. Yeah. I mean, which is like, Kim felt.

[A]

Like she was really nervous she was gonna mess up the lines, like, word for word. That's how it felt. She was saying.

[B]

It seemed like they were like, kim, say this line, like, 80 times, and we'll pick the best one. And, like, that's how she did all her lines. And look, I don't care about whatever process, and it might not been that, but that's who's gonna love it.

[A]

And if that's what worked, that's what worked.

[B]

But it's so funny, too, because we see Kim doing the greatest acting of all time, which is reality tv. So we're used to seeing, like, we know who Kim is as a person in a room. So I think that's why it also is hard for her to act, because we know her personality so well. Not to, like, give her excuses, but.

[A]

Well, it's kind of similar. Like, when certain actors, like, when you go to their movies, they're playing themselves. Like, Jason Statham is always playing Jason Statham.

[B]

Jennifer Aniston So, like, you think of kid.

[A]

Like, you see Kim and you're like.

[B]

Why is she stiff?

[A]

You're like, but be yourself.

[B]

Eat a salad. Shake a salad and make it believable. But what I will say, at first I was confused, and then once. Then you're kind of rooting for her. You're like, yes. Deliver that line. Yes. Just get the hottest guy to be your husband on the show. Yes. No. Yes. Get a private jet. Yes. Like, you know what? Yeah, yeah. Four Alpha changes in four minutes. Hell, yeah. Then I, like, couldn't turn it off because I was like a slow mo.

[A]

Montage of Kim, like, dreaming of smashing someone's car who was selling Sunset but.

[B]

Ryan Murphy style when she just walked out the car for 15 seconds, slow mo. I was like, this is incredible. And you know what? I've been watching some, like, fancy, artsy fartsy movies, and I'm 30 minutes in, and it's just all these, like, slow, weird, angular videography things. And I'm like, give me some entertainment. I want story. I want fun. I want silly. I want goofy.

[A]

Okay, well, I'm going to just say this as someone who consumes television all day long, who, like, does not really watch reality tv, there's no shows for girls. I need more shows for girls. Like, every new show, it's like, okay, yeah, and you have to capture this and talk to this police officer, and then this detective's gonna get murdered. And they started a company that you need to figure out, like, who the lawyer is. And I'm like, stop. I want, like, more. Emily.

[B]

All's fair is for the girls, for sure. And I also. There's something about older women, and I don't mean that older than us being so successful and so rich that, like, I love watching. It's like a manifestation.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

It's like, yes, this is what I want. Like, they're on their eighth husbands, and they're just, like, covered in jewels. And it just seems very luxurious.

[A]

And they love the most luxurious part about it. And I feel like I've, like, noticed this as I get older is, like, the freedom of doing whatever you want. Like, 10 years ago, I would have said, like, I want, like, a Birkin bag, or I want, like, this jewelry or whatever. And then, like, as you get older, I feel like you're like, no, I just want to be able to do whatever I want. And all of them in that show can do whatever they want. Like, they're in control.

[B]

So that's why we actually do think it's an Oscar nom, and people are.

[A]

Giving it enough, and that's why, yeah, we are voting for it.

[B]

But what I. What I love about Kim is everything Kim's accomplished started as an idea in her head, and she executes it, and everyone's laughed at her the entire time. But, like, what skims has become is fucking bonkers. It's, like, partnered with Nike. But I love that she's, like, wants to try to be everything and do everything, pivot.

[A]

Also, who is going to tell you that you're bad? Also, I love that she posted all the tweets that were like, kim, you're bad. Said you're a bad actress. She was like, hell, yeah. Like, I love it. Why can't women do it all? Why can't we do do it badly?

[B]

Why can't we normalize women doing things badly? Why do women have to be good at everything?

[A]

No. Men do so many, so many things every single day, and we have to. And we literally pretend that they're doing a good job and we lie to them. At least we're honest with women. But, like, let her do it and let her be bad at it.

[B]

Also, I feel like Kim could pass the bar if she wasn't doing 4,000 other projects. Like, Niecy Nash was talking about how, like, Kim is literally, like, on the phone, like, yelling at, like, a business manager about something and then starting a new business and then having an acting coach and then studying for the bar while also shooting reality tv. I'm like, yeah, she's not passing the bar.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Even Legally Blonde, she, like, was at the library, like, for studying. Wait, what do you think about Kim calling out her psychics? Wait, what did you see? Kim say she called her sisters, and she's like, all our psychics are bullshit. They all four of them told me I was gonna pass the bar. Well, well, well.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

I love that the Kardashians go to so many psychics. I love. Maybe if you didn't go to so many psychics and instead of saying sitting and talking to psychics all the time, and you looked at what was at the in the bar and didn't just look at Chachi bt.

[A]

It's all about the Etsy witch these days. But, like, that scares me. See, that is, too.

[B]

You're my Etsy witch.

[A]

My Catholic guilt comes into play there. I'm like, that's dabbling too much with karma. I don't do that. I can't do that.

[B]

No, no, no, no. But you're My Etsy witch.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I have my own. I have my own.

[A]

I literally texted Hannah something earlier today, and I was like, and this happened to this person and it wasn't like a bad thing that happened to that person. And I was like, I think my powers are really strong because I didn't mean you guys.

[B]

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[A]

Anyhow.

[B]

Oh, gosh. So, yeah, all's fair, it's fun.

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[B]

Are you watching the Kardashians this season? Is it done?

[A]

I actually am.

[B]

I need to like get on.

[A]

It's like funny and like cute and like whatever and I have it on when I'm like on my walking pad.

[B]

Let's normalize shows that you have on in the background. I can't with all These, like, shows that you need an iPad. I don't want to know. Bad.

[A]

I hate doing that podcast virtually. I can't, like, embrace you.

[B]

You're not having a good time. You go, I hate. I just gotta say that I hate this. I hate this.

[A]

No, I think we're in, like, a business meeting where I'm just like, hello, come over. Like, I feel like you're, like, my friend. Like, I'm on the phone, you know, like, sometimes you're on the phone with your friend, and she's like, I don't know if I'm gonna come over yet. Like, maybe later. And, like, you're like, just come over now. And she's like, but I have things to do. Like, that's how I feel right now. I'm like, we're just. We're on the phone anyway. Just come over. And you're like, sorry, I'm in la.

[B]

Sorry. My mom's not letting me also, because I went into, like, a formal studio to record. So normally when we record virtually, I'm also, like, sitting on the floor. But now I'm like. I really do feel like I'm.

[A]

No, you're literally interviewing me. It's making me uncomfortable. And, like, I have K18 in my hair right now and, like, Aquaphor on my toes. Like, I'm vulnerable. Weird stuff is going on. Like, other people are there and they're listening to me, and I don't know what they look like. That freaks me out.

[B]

I also. I have to get my nails done after this, and I'm gonna freak out.

[A]

I'm gonna cry. I'm literally crying. I mean, this is, like, not a. Oh, here's the other thing. This is, like a Sunday evening. We're recording on a Sunday evening.

[B]

There's a lot of weir energy happening.

[A]

Sundays are weird vibes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because Weird energy.

[B]

You're. You're like. You're sad about the weekend ending, but you're also very anxious about the next week starting. So there's no positives anywhere you look. We're scared.

[A]

Like, on Sunday night. Do you ever, like, look at your calendar for a week, like, for, like, the week ahead, and you, like, mentally have to be like, it's actually, like, not even that bad. Like, you made it sound like it was so much worse than it is. And, like, that's actually going to be fun. And you literally talk to yourself like you're your own child, like, you're going to have a great time.

[B]

I've been trying to tell myself it's not going to be. It's not going to be as bad as you think it's going to be. But I do this new thing now that I look at my calendar and whatever's really pissing me off, like, I'm like, I'm canceling it.

[A]

You actually. Okay, you said something a couple weeks ago, a couple months ago that you wanted to have, like, boundaries where you're like, no, I'm not doing it. In the past month, you've texted me things, hey, I don't want to do this. And I'm like, great. Some of the things I don't need, I'm not even made abreast of them.

[B]

I said no to things you haven't even heard of. Wait, what'd you say? I say no to things that. Yeah, you haven't even heard. Have I been happening?

[A]

You're like, do you want to do this? Is it your dream? And I'm like, I don't even know what you're speaking about. Yeah, cancel it.

[B]

There is a positive. There is a light happening right now. I bought a Furbo. Now, let me just say I was having a weird, like, wireless headphone thing with Furbo for a while. Like, even though you showed me Daphne on your Furbo all tour, I was like, yeah, but mine's not gonna work.

[A]

Like, how do you use a phone? How do you use an iPhone? Like, seriously, how do you text?

[B]

But also, like, when you get it, you have to install it. Like, it just don't plug it in.

[A]

No, you plug it in. There's no installation. You plug it in and you download the app.

[B]

This is so, like, when there's something that's gonna take one minute, but, like, you take eight months stressing over it. So I finally got a fur bowl for butter. And it is so incredible because when I'm away from her, I think she's at home trying to slit her wrist. Like, that's what I envision Butter does. When I'm gone, she's just like, where's my mom? I want to off myself. Turns out she's just sleeping on the couch.

[A]

She's living life. I know people are like, get really mad at, like, massive companies where they're like, that company should not be worth that much money. Furbo should serves all the money in the world. No Furbo, because it's best invention.

[B]

Fur boy is the only thing to get you out of depression. Right before I went on stage, I was just looking at my fur bow and I'm saying, I love you, Butter. I love you. And Then I give her her treats and Butter. But at first, the way Butter was looking at me in the fur bow, I got sad. But at least I was feeling something.

[A]

You know, you immediately become buddy the elf. You're like, amazing. I'll call you in five minutes. Like, stay right there. I will stay. See you in a second.

[B]

I'm getting notifications, so it'll say butter's walking. Butter's chewing.

[A]

Yeah. And they want to help know your cat better. So they're like, is your cat gagging right now? Yep. Apparently it seems so.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, they like to know if, like.

[B]

After this podcast I can go. And they're gonna review all the things Butter's been up to. Cause they can. Their AI is incredible. Where they cut all the moments of the day I missed where Butter did something cute. And then I watch. It's a neat. So then one thing, though. When I left, I thought DEZ was also leaving. And like a couple hours later, I go on the furbo and I'm talking to her. Like a text from dez. He goes, I'm fucking napping. So I woke him up. By the way, you can watch people on the furbo. So I think furbo is gonna be the next thing where, like, people see, like, affairs happening.

[A]

I'm sure it's. I'm sure it's already happening.

[B]

It's already like, that is the thing.

[A]

There's so many people that have, like, cameras in their rooms. I'm like, what do you. What's the camera for? Like, I'm like, is that just your fur bow? Like, why are people putting so. Like, why do so many people have cameras in their rooms?

[B]

Well, I was getting my makeup did and Des started talking to us through the fur bow and everyone got freaked out. But yeah, so the household has changed. The furbo is kind of.

[A]

No, it's the best.

[B]

It's the best. But yeah, it keeps does on. So Des is in Ireland now and I'm in la. So that's eight hour difference. So we, like, are not gonna see each other.

[A]

You're divorced.

[B]

We're divorced. Yeah. Like, there's like about one hour in the day when we're both awake.

[A]

No, that. That's your dream. That's your dream. That is so tricky with someone like you because you have borderline narcolepsy.

[B]

No, I know. I sleep late. He's getting up early. We're just missing each other. But, like, I think it's good even as a wife.

[A]

What time is it there right now, you guys?

[B]

Even as A wife. Play hard to get. Keep him on his toes. Be like, is she alive? Is she? Where is she?

[A]

Is she gonna come home today? Are we still married?

[B]

Something I have to bring up. I feel like straight men never have hand soap in their apartment. Well, occasionally they have a bar of soap, which is disgusting.

[A]

They have. They never have both. They never have a hand soap and a hand towel. Sometimes you get the soap, no towel. Sometimes you'll get the towel, no soap. They've never had a complete set.

[B]

Boy, bathroom is, like, next level crazy. Because men, like, I guess because they don't wash their hands after they pee. They, like, don't treat it like we do.

[A]

I just had a moment, remembered something that happened earlier today. And my mom called me and she goes, do you remember that outfit? It had, like, it was like a little pleated skirt and it had a matching jacket. And I was like, from when? And she was like, you were in kindergarten.

[B]

Your conversations are so different than mine. And I. And you knew. You go, yeah, November 2nd.

[A]

Yeah, of course I go, yeah, of course I remember that out. But what about it?

[B]

What about it? Is my question. What about it? Did she save your stuff?

[A]

She has some stuff saved, but she's like, me, like. Like, if she doesn't remember something, like, she'll remember by, like, what she was wearing or what I was wearing. And that's how I am too, where I'm like, I don't remember that event. But if I. If you tell me what I was wearing, then I'll know.

[B]

That's like a very specific kind of mental illness.

[A]

It's very specific to us.

[B]

Some people are visual.

[A]

I was, like, annoyed that she was, like, asking about it, but I was like, yeah, obviously I remember that outfit.

[B]

Wait, speaking of lim, too, you know what? I want to wear, like, a tank top with, like, a little poncho over it. Like, I want to. Those little ponchos. Is poncho the right word?

[A]

Like a sheer, like, little cape?

[B]

A sheer little cape or a furry one or a fluffy one or a cotton one?

[A]

No, I love a poncho.

[B]

I love a poncho. Like, if I wear it, will people make fun of me?

[A]

Who is Ponce de Leon? What is that? Is that something in France?

[B]

Ponce de Leon? Yeah. What is that? It sounds like. It sounds like a guy in.

[A]

No, that's something. Anytime.

[B]

Ponce de Leon. Sounds like you just cursed me out. Paul Salons to you too. Falsely on. Bless you.

[A]

Ponce.

[B]

A little bit. It's like an explorer. I was like, so rock. Where did you get what?

[A]

I don't know. That, like, made me think of it. Anyway, anywho, sorry, it's Sunday night. I have to, like, get all my weird feelings out.

[B]

No, I know. Also, we just shared a meme on our Instagram about, like, don't complain that we change the subject all the time. Like, be thankful that we've talked about 18 different things in four minutes. Like, sorry, we can squeeze it all.

[A]

If something pops in my head and I don't say it immediately, then I'm gonna forget it, and that's gonna annoy me.

[B]

I hate a long story.

[A]

It's like Ponce de Leon.

[B]

Also, you said it as if I was about to be like, yeah, I know who that is. Are you?

[A]

I thought I was being so stupid, and it was, like, a really famous thing in France that you were gonna.

[B]

Be like, yeah, obviously. So stupid.

[A]

I'm crying.

[B]

By the way, have I ever known anything historically?

[A]

No, but, like, you love Paris. You always are friends.

[B]

No, but, like, it's, like, your favorite. I don't know anything about wars. I think, like, when I was younger and I started talking about wars, I was like, I don't like. I don't like this. I don't like what it stands for. I don't support it, and therefore, I'm not gonna process any of this information.

[A]

That's how I was about math.

[B]

Like, it's my biggest fear to go on a game show. And they're like, when was the War of 1812? I'd be like, no idea.

[A]

Like, are you smarter than a fifth grader? Like, that is, like, a humiliation ritual.

[B]

That I would never be a part of. They had Travis Kelce hosting, like, funny, great cast today. It's so funny. But occasionally on those, like, tick tocks where they ask people basic facts, I'll do well on it. And. And my head will get big for.

[A]

A second because you're, like, not under pressure. Like, I. I couldn't, like, even, like, Billy Eichner being, like, name a woman.

[B]

I'm like, wait, that's. I do have to say, when the camera is on you, you blank. You blank out. I don't remember my own name. Jimmy Fallon's like, hi, I'm Jimmy. I'm like, I'm Jimmy, too. Hi. That's what you do. One other thought.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

I'm really into broccoli omelets right now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But no one has it available, so.

[A]

Where are you getting them?

[B]

Well, okay. My grandma would make, like, broccoli frittatas, which is very Italian, but This is the thing you love.

[A]

You like broccoli rabe.

[B]

The Braquel rabe. But when you have broccoli in an omelette, it tastes like potato, so it tastes like a hat. Just bear with me.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait.

[B]

Broccoli kind of tastes like potato in an omelet.

[A]

I'm gonna try that because I love broccoli. You know what I've been doing recently? This is, like, so weird, but, like, amazing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've been getting just, like, frozen peas.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And putting them in the microwave and, like, steamable, like, making frozen peas, then put. Then opening the package, putting butter in it and eating it with a spoon. Wait, I've just been eating peas.

[B]

I don't know if that's legal.

[A]

I'm like, why does. Why aren't people talking about.

[B]

Well, you know what? They do that for babies. They mush up the peas.

[A]

Yeah. Basically, that's what I'm eating.

[B]

Wait. I did get on a weird TikTok algorithm of moms making food for their kids that they also eat.

[A]

So be like, why not?

[B]

Like. I'm sorry. I'm not. You're not just eating chicken nuggets. If you're getting chicken nuggets, mom is getting chicken nuggets too.

[A]

I'm scared I'm gonna have a baby, and I'm just gonna change my whole personality. I'm gonna be a freak, and I'm gonna be like, I'm making mashed carrots today. I can't podcast.

[B]

You want to do that so bad, but you, you're always freaky behind the scenes.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, what are we talking about?

[B]

I feel like, next thing you know, you're gonna be mashing up peas, putting it on your face, telling me it's good for your pores.

[A]

Well.

[B]

Don'T tempt me, but this might be.

[A]

I know. I'm sure there's something there.

[B]

Who decided that when you go to a diner, they're like, okay, omelette with spinach, omelet with peppers with onions. Where's the broccoli option? You want me to be healthy? You don't give me a broccoli option. And then if I ask for broccoli, I'm a nerd. It's like when I ask for apple.

[A]

Juice, it's almost like you see more asparagus omelets than you do broccoli.

[B]

No, I know. And I feel like broccoli's PR team is slacking.

[A]

They're just, like, not on top of it.

[B]

Not on top of it.

[A]

I never order an Omelet. So I don't care about this.

[B]

Cause I could tell. It's when I started the. The life died in your eyes when I talked about it.

[A]

Supporting it here I'm here, nor there.

[B]

I'm speaking up for the community that doesn't get spoken for, and it doesn't affect me. So, like, what are you eating? Granola. Peas. Why don't people do pee on this?

[A]

I'm getting, like, if I'm going to a diner, I'm getting a fried egg, bacon and toast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hash browns.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, why don't people put peas in omelets?

[A]

That's disgusting. Peas are to be eaten on their own with butter or at Thanksgiving or with a chicken.

[B]

I do have to say peas with, like, a little bacon. Or if you're Italian, pancetta with a little onion. Oh. Oh, my. Oh, my. Oh. Oh, stop.

[A]

Mushroom.

[B]

Oh. Oh. Don't stop.

[A]

I gotta go.

[B]

You guys. We ended on a high note. Thank you for giggling with us. I'm going to Florida next weekend. A bunch of shows in Florida. Paige, what are you doing?

[A]

Oh, gosh. Daphne, latte stripe is coming up. When is this pod coming out? Third Tuesday. Daphne latte stripe is coming out today. So it's one of our new colorways. And yeah, get it.

[B]

I love a latte. Thank you guys for giggling. Talk to you later. Bye.

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