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Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. It was fun.
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I mean the day just got away from me.
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What's up? My grandma garden Gigglers Grandma garden Garding garden.
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Grandma garden.
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The gigglers rode. Nana called me. She was like what? What did I do to deserve all this love? I keep getting messages.
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Oh wait, what? Yeah, wait, where did they. What means of what platform did they.
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It's on threads. Nana doesn't even know what a thread is besides what may be on her gorgeous sweater. Let me.
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Let me just preface that I am doing something that's like so evil to do to my friend. And I made Hannah wake up at 7:30 in the morning because she's in LA, I have to catch a flight. And I was like, we have to record Giggly squad. And this was the only time that worked for us. So Hannah's like, Hannah's still Fully sleeping. So whatever she says in this next 45 minutes, she's not liable for. It's not her. Her hair looks. If you're listening, her hair looks stunning. I've never seen it so perfectly tousled. Because she went to bed, but probably three out three, four hours ago, it's still done.
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Who knew a curl could hold?
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You literally look like you could Irish dance at any minute. You have the perfect ringlet.
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Wait at Athenaalberto. She's incredible.
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She's incredible.
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If you question how a curl could hold, just watch this episode. No, I had my LA show last night and Paige was like, hey, I gotta like do like a 7:45 record. The next morning I was like, sure.
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I was like, we could do it later at night and it could just come out a little bit later in the day. I was like, I can totally get up at 7:30.
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I can do it. And then I'm getting texts at like 7:20. She's like, I mean, I'm ready when you are.
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I'm like, no. It's honestly so mean of me because let me tell you, I had the slowest morning. I woke up, I took a shower.
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I had iced coffee from yesterday, old iced coffee that I poured in here. And then I had a lactate creamer, threw that in. Let's fudge. Go. I'm not around this pod. I'm awake now. I'm awake now.
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I mean, let's get into it.
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Okay.
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One thing I want to say that I've been thinking about all week, I.
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Mean, and all morning. Because you've just been waiting for me.
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Oh, literally I'm just like, what are we going to talk about on the pod? And I rarely do a mental health moment of the day or of the week because I'm like, you go, that's thing. Push it down like the rest of us. Okay. Cry to your mom in one Uber ride and then suck it the fuck up. I saw this TikTok the other day and it was like a funny TikTok and a girl was saying something about I didn't overreact. If anything, like I underreacted. And you know when you're like in your mid-20s, maybe even early, late, whatever, and you do something and you're like, that was a crazy situation. And it's sticks in your brain so much that you think about it years later before you're falling asleep at night, like you just lay in bed and you're like, remember when I.
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Can you not talk about the bed right now? Cuz like I'll fall asleep. I swear to God, if you bring up sleep or the bed, I will fall asleep. Right now. I'm fighting for my life. And that sound. I was like, what kind of pillow were you sleeping on? Tell it to me slowly. I'm also fully wearing my Daphne Hannity pajamas right now. Like, no.
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Is it the best sleep ever?
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I.
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Like, I inadvertently made a pajama line for pregnant moms. And I even mean to.
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I was like, you made a pajama line just for me and pregnant moms? I am a pregnant.
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I get so many pregnant moms being like, hey, this shirt that ties in the front is fudgeing phenomenal for breastfeeding. And I'm like, I didn't even mean to do that.
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Everything in your line works for mom. Like, are you trying to say something? Wait, sorry, I interrupted you. What were you gonna say?
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So you know when you're laying bed at night and you're like, oh, my God, remember when I was 24 years old and I, like, freaked out in front of everyone and, like, how could I have done that? Oh, recently I've been, like, thinking about those moments, and I'm like, I wonder if I'm experiencing moments right now that in five years I'm gonna be like, wow, I overreacted. And I was like, you know what? No. If anything, there are so many times where I have under reacted, but society has made me think, like, don't be dramatic. Don't be crazy, like, you're being a bitch, when in reality, I should have burnt your house down.
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Yeah, no, that was my mental health.
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Moment for the week. Like, you're not overreacting. If anything, you could be underreacting and you'll think about it in five years.
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Literally. I had so many points I wanted to say, and I forgot all of them because that was, like, such an intense way to start the pod when, you know, I'm asleep and you're like. Like, let me just start about, like, judging our entire life and what I should have done. And I literally had good points to make. And, like, my brain was like, I'm.
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Actually so sorry for that.
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No, we actually. Can I have a mental health moment. Sure. Because I shouldn't have watched Traitors. It was. It triggered me.
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It did. The reality of it.
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Yeah. And I just have to say I'll make this quick. Just like Ron Funch is as a fellow comedian. And I watched. There's a scene where, like, Dorinda says something that's, like, not that bad and, like, kind of Mentions his family and he responds like, fudge. You never talk about my family again. And I literally, problem. I literally, like, was talking to my friend and I was like, that was out of nowhere. And that was insane. And. And then literally today on Threads, Ron Funches was like, do you really think that's the only thing she said to me? And that's how I reacted. And I'm like, you, Hannah fudgeing. How dare you do that to someone else? How dare you do that to someone else after what you went through? So just know that there's a lot more things that are said to make people snap than what you see.
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You want to know what you're kind of like? I don't want people to get triggered by this. You're kind of like an alcoholic. Where, like, you were like, I've been sober for this certain amount of years. You know what? I actually could probably handle one cocktail at dinner. And you're literally, what happened? You had the cocktail at dinner and you're like, see, I'm totally fine. You're like, you go back to dinner the next week and you're like, maybe I could have two cocktails. You have two cocktails and then you're.
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Like, hold the on. I'm getting on the bar. Yeah, Now I've been arrested. I'm on TMZ with my shirt off and I'm snorting lines of cocaine.
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We now find you in LA, waking up at 7:30am being like, you know what? I miscalculated.
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Haikon. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I've lost my family and my friends.
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She's no longer our traitor's correspondent.
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We hate to see her go, but.
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We respect her at this time.
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I mean, the fact that I felt a negative feeling towards the adorable Ron Funches when clearly more stuff was said to make him snap. And I just want to apologize to the. The community. No.
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I had so many people in my DMs being like, loved your rant about Colton. Loved it even more knowing you haven't seen a single second of the season. Like, and that's what I'm here to do. I'm here to have opinions on things I don't know about or care about.
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People were like, Hannah, like, how can you do two episodes? And I'm like, it's just about having really heart takes about things you don't know that much about. And you just have to commit, pick a side and go. And Paige and I tend to pick separate sides. And that's 30min minutes. That's 30 minutes right there.
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Because, okay, if you get on the phone with your friend at like a random time during the day, it's literally just you two back and forth.
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Yeah. You don't call with an outline, and next thing you know, you're two hours in and multiple people's names have been dragged through the mud. Literally.
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My. One of my girlfriends called me like, last week and I go, I was like, hey, I'm really tired. I actually, like, can't get on the phone. Let's like, voice note this. And she goes, totally respect your privacy. I just have to say one thing on the phone. It's going to be two minutes, four hours later. I was like, I was early for something. I've now missed it. Like, you've ruined my day.
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Let me say something. As social about socializing is two people who have social anxiety and we're both so respectful of each other's social anxiety. Like, I'm literally like, call me when you feel like it. I'm here. I'm waiting by the phone. But, like, I'm literally like that. I'm like, I won't. I won't call you out of nowhere. Because if I do, I know you get startled.
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You do always tell me your location. You're like, hey, I'm sitting at this hotel. I'm in my room.
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I'm in a peaceful place. There'll be no sudden movements. But I do have to say now I can. Now you know what I'm doing.
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Every time. We were like, hey, I'm in the Uber. I'm on my way to the hotel. And give me a call if you.
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Want, if you need me, if you feel safe, if you feel secure, if you've done your deep breathing, I'm available for about 15 minutes tops. And then I will have to go and continue my day. Meanwhile, me calling my mom, blowing up her phone. My mom needs to have a restraining order on me.
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My mom might go no contact with me for what I've put her through the past two weeks because I've called her so many times and made like. And another thing. Back to the morning conversation.
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My life is one long phone call with my mom with breaks in between. That's what our life is.
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No, it really is. It's a stream of consciousness. Speaking of mother daughter duos. Yes, we didn't. This is the first time we get to talk about that. We're interviewing Kate Hudson, Brenda Song and Mindy Kaling for Netflix. The Kate Hudson Goldie Hawn relationship. Mother daughter relationship. Is one of the best things in my life, personally. Kate Hudson just got nominated for an Oscar, and Goldie Hawn's.
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And she sings in it.
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She's a. She's amazing. Goldie Hawn's caption of, like, congratulating her daughter was as if she had just graduated the sixth grade and, like, is going into junior high. Like, it felt like she just had Kate. Like, it was like my baby. Like, like, years ago, I had this baby girl, Kate. And, like, now look, it was just so sweet and wholesome.
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Also, she is an example of a Nepo baby that we're like, thank God. Thank God she got into acting.
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Thank God.
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Thank God she gave us how to lose a guy in 10 days. Still one of the greatest rom coms that ever did. Ever did it.
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That ever did live. Another thing that's been on my timeline, and, like, you came.
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You were like, I came prepared. I came.
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Hannah's fully asleep, and I have things to say. Another thing that's on my timeline that I, like, literally didn't ask for, but since this is a sports podcast, the Miami football game, why I'm getting fed this. So I see, like, one tick tock of, like, some speech, and I'm like, that was, like, so sweet. That's, like, the sweetest speech I've ever seen. Then I see another tick tock and it's like, too long on the speech. I stay too long on the speaker speech.
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Yeah.
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And then I got the entire lore of the guy on Indiana, Fernando Mendoza, who is now my personal.
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Wait, this is not to brag, but, like, mom has been on the road, and I haven't been able to consume Miami niche sports content.
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Can you want to consume Miami niche sports either?
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Can you tell the group what's going.
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On in layman's terms? Basically, there was, like, a big football game. Everyone was freaking out about it, and it was Miami. Indiana, Great. Apparently Indiana is horrible. This is the first time in a billion years they've ever been good. Their quarterback is this kid named Fernando Mendoza. Now, unbeknownst to me, he's from Miami. His parents are Cuban. He's from Miami. He grew up his whole life wanting to go to Miami. Oh, I later find out that the coach of Miami also went to high school with this guy's dad. So you think he's gonna go to Miami? He's gonna be put on the team. He goes, I'll walk on. Miami's like, get out of here. We don't want you.
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See, that's crazy, because for, well, you guys don't know walk on is literally saying, can I play for free? I don't need a, like a scholarship. Just let me. It's basically like, can I can meet you? Let me sit on the bench. So they basically said no to letting.
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He goes to Indiana, he becomes the quarterback, he wins the Heisman Trophy this year they go undefeated, which is insane.
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Because Indiana never has never wins. Close.
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He goes down to Miami for the last big whatever championship it is. Not only does he make the game winning touchdown, his parents are in the audience. His mom has Ms. So she cannot stand to cheer for him. So the dad doesn't stand either. He sits next to her.
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It's fucking 6am I can't do this right now.
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I'm literally on my phone, it's 2am and I'm crying over Fernando Mentos. I'm like, now I need more.
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Sports is the only thing that makes you cry. Like, I won't cry about anything except sports.
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I'm so. It was the sweetest story. And in a world full of male loneliness epidemic bullshit, here comes a guy, whatever generation that even is. I mean senior in college, I have no idea what is that still Gen Z? Yeah, I would assume. He just seems so pure. Like he's so just like a nice guy. Like it's just. Honestly, all the men should be taking rather than like watching red pill tick tocks of guys look smack single. They should be like looking up to this kid. And it was. And then there was a shot of him like at 11, the strip club in Miami. And I was like, have a great time. Yeah.
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That's where we went on my Bachelorette. That's where Paige got me a table and that's where Ja Rule came out. Make sure you listen to that episode.
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Anyway, I hope to never be back on college football. Tik tok. Because I was.
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The truth is, is sports is men's reality tv. So it does kind of track that like if you would consume male content it would be the most dramatic.
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Like game guys, give me story, honey, give me side characters, give me lore from high school.
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No, literally, it's like a reunion that you were watching was the Bowl Championship. Also the fact that you said layman's terms, that's so funny to me because I'm like, first of all, who's layman? And do you think layman is like, can some people stop using my terms?
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Yeah, I always like to think about it. Like in my head I picture someone laying down, like, you can listen to this information while you're fast asleep.
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But layman's like, maybe let's not plagiarize and let's come up with our own things and stop using my shit in terms of socializing. I just remembered one of the things I was gonna say. The rest is dead. It'll never come back to me. So as someone who's nervous about socializing, I might say this before, but I feel like for mental health, it's good for you to be around people, to see yourself through their eyes. Because you know how you're, like, constantly, like, in your own head, making up your own stories about, like, who you are and, like, what you do and, like, who. What's your story today of how people view you? And then you, like, hang out with one friend and they say one thing, and you're like, oh, okay. Like, I made a real complicated situation.
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Have you ever described yourself to someone and then you sat back and been like, I'm nothing like that. Like, sometimes I'll hear myself and I'll be like, yeah. I'm like, I love going and doing that. And I'll be like, no, I don't. I literally hate going there and doing that.
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Now when I go into that perspective, it makes me see some positivity, because sometimes I'm like, this is just me, like, forcing myself to, like, extend energy when I don't need to. Also, I do want to expose the name of someone I told a story about on my pod because I'm very protective of people, and I will not tell people's names. But I ran into them yesterday, and I was like, do you know I told a story about you on the pod? And she was dying laughing. She's like, you should have said my name. You should have said my name because can you tell them it was me? Because that's hilarious. So the girl who was trying to.
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Like, party with me, who is traumatized to find out not only were you in your 30s, but you were also betrothed.
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Married. I forgot about that part.
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Yeah.
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Thought I was 27, which. Obsessed with her. Obsessed with her. It was Tara Yummy. Who? I did not know who she was. I just, like, she started messaging me. And then Grace, my Gen Z icon, was like, that's Mrs. Tara Yummy that you're talking to. And I was like, oh, my God. And Tara came to my show last night. We had so much fun.
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She's on, like, YouTube. Like, she's like a streamer, and she's.
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Just like, that girl. And she's just so fun and really friendly.
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I Feel like I've used, like, her sounds before.
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And she has amazing taste in comedy, clearly. But she's so cute. She comes to the show, she stays afterwards, we're talking, and she looks at me and she goes, I was gonna ask you to come out with us, but I know you don't do that. And I said, and that. And now we're gonna be close, babe. Now you get me.
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Hey, Nana, when's your Ambien start? When do you have to take that? She's like, do you need a hot tea? It's past 8pm Peppermint. I know you like peppermint.
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Can you put my pill in the Jell O, please? Meanwhile, I'm like, tara, do your homework.
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Clock strikes 10, and you're like, tara, honey, get my. Get my socks.
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My knee. Get my socks. Tuck me in. But no, I had the show in la and it actually.
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Wait. We're gonna be great grandmas.
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Like, can we skip all that?
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Like, kids being a mom and all that. Like. Like, pain staking. Just decision.
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I feel like the only difference between grandma and aunt is, like, grandma, like, well, there's lots of difference, but you both can, like, leave when you want. But also, grandma, like, you're the matriarch. Like. Like, you're like, I was talking to Nana. Yeah, she called me and she was like. She was like, why am I getting all this love? Like, you love me so much. And I'm like, nana, you made everyone right. Like, it's because you and papa.
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I basically started this family, and none of you would be anything without me.
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Literally. I. Not to bring this up, because I know your grandma has since passed with my grandpa, and they're hanging out right now, giggling.
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I have zero grandparents. You talk about your grandparents every single pod.
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You literally sound like Des when I complain about. I complain about my grandpa, and he's like, you have two grandparents and two parents left. I have nothing.
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You know, it actually is so, like, it's so nice, you being 34 and you still have a full set of grandparents. That's, like, unheard of, I feel like.
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And see, that's perspective. Instead of me crying every night over my grandpa, I should have the gigglers.
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I mean, your grandma got to see you get married. That. I feel like that my grandma performed at Carnegie Hall.
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My grandma's lived to be. She's famous. But one thing about. I have to say about my Nana, she does not stop talking about death. She literally just gets on the phone and she's like, okay, now I live such a good Life. I've lived such a good life, and I love you, and I hope I make it to the next time I see you. And I'm like, why?
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Always hoping to make it to the next day. It's so morbid.
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What are you and Paige doing? Because I need something to look forward to. I'm like, nana, you're gonna make me cry. It's literally 11am on a Tuesday. And she's like, oh, I've had so many good life experiences. What did I do to deserve this beautiful life that's gonna end any day now? She's like, okay, I hope I talk to you again and this isn't the last time. Bye. I'm like, nana, why? Like, I'm crying in an Uber right now. Like, why do you do this?
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I'm having a great day that's gonna end any. Any second.
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Oh, and then my papa apparently got this, like, test, and the guy was like, he's perfect. He's gonna live till he's 100. She goes, I'm gonna die before Papa. Take care of him.
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No. Nana and Papa are gonna literally go on the same day. There's no way they're living a second without each other.
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Yeah, no, I know. And that's the ultimate romantic thing, like murder suicide. That's what you have to do.
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I have been watching, like, all of the major movies that. Well, I have like a list that have been nominated.
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You're basically in the Academy.
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I'm in the academy. I'm sag, I'm voting. I'm. I'm in there. So I watched Begonia over the weekend and last weekend and I watched Sinners.
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What are your thoughts?
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Emily Stone, former. Emma Stone is such a good actress and she's so good at, like, Begonia was one of, like, the weirdest, creepiest, very original, like, storytelling. And she's so good at, in her movies, being relatable.
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Yeah.
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But also being the actress in that. You need in that move, like the character in that movie. I don't know how she does it. You know how we talk about, like, oh, if you're going to see like a Ryan Reynolds movie, you're going to see Ryan Reynolds pretend to be something, but you're watching Ryan Reynolds. Emily Stone is so good at being her. No, I love it. That's like my new thing. I'm like, don't call her the wrong name. She's requested Emily. She's so good at, like, you knowing it's her, but also fully believing in her character.
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You're so right.
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And I thought I was gonna hate that. Movie.
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See, I love weird ass movies like that. And it's. But it's funny because Emily Stone is in it. You know, she's going to take care of you. You're like, I know that she's going to make sure this is going to be good for us.
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I love her friendship with Jennifer Lawrence because whenever I'm going to watch a Jennifer Lawrence movie, I'm like, even if the movie is shit, I don't care because I want to watch Jennifer Lawrence do whatever she's doing. I want to hang out with her for the next hour and a half. So I don't care what the other characters are doing. I'm going to watch her.
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You know what people don't talk about enough. Easy A and Crazy Stupid Love were such fucking good movies that do not get recognized enough in the cultural zeitgeist.
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One time I dated a guy and he Torville.
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Okay, it's literally 7am why would you say that?
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Crazy Stupid Love. I went through a phase where like that was the movie. I would just like turn on at night to be like, well, like we'll fall asleep to this. And he was like, I think that movie is the worst. I think it's so stupid. It makes me feel like uncomfortable and weird and like, don't put it up.
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Let's unpack that, sir. Let's unpack that. Let's. In layman's terms, let's unpack that.
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And I was like, that's such a random movie to absolutely be triggered by like it's a romantic comedy. What's his name is in it. Like, how do you hate anything?
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Steve Carell is in it.
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And what's the hot guy?
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Ryan Gosling.
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Yeah. I'm like, how do you hate anything with Ryan Gosling?
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That's so.
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Probably wanted to sleep with Ryan Gosling, you know, and that's, that's a cross. That's like not mine to bear for a minute. Yeah.
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Wait, can I give a. A Beckham update? Yes, because I actually talked to dez, which we don't talk enough about. DEZ is a Scorpio, just like Paige. And he's a psychic, even though he doesn't believe in psychics. But. And I said, what is going on with the situation? And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Tell me what happened. And I'm like, okay, well, pages like psychic take is that the girl wrote it. And he goes, what did she say? And I gave him the tea of it. And he goes, this is what gives it away? No guy would care that much about their wedding. He goes, no guy would write about their wedding that much. And I was like, so you didn't like getting married to me? And he's like, this isn't about us.
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Well, I. I also think, my God, look, Victoria Beck. I'm like, Team Victoria on this. David Beckham came out and he was on some, like, he was, like, corresponding some type of show in the uk, some, like, Match or something. And he inadvertently said, like, kids have to make mistakes. And you kind of let your kids make mistakes on their own, and especially with social media. And then one of her, like, stylists came out and said that. She was like, look, people can come out with different stories and be like, victoria's awful. No, Nicole is awful.
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Which is, like, not good for girlhood. But continue. Yeah, again, we're getting distracted. There's more important things happening in the world. But then these two hot girls fighting. But anyway, I continue.
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Kind of like the same thing with, like, Prince Harry. Even though the situations are so. No, I don't think they're that similar. It's just like, that they're British.
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Yeah.
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If a guy wants to leave his family, like, he's doing it, like, I don't know, like, that is, like, a thing within him. Like, you can't tell him anything.
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Wait, that's so funny, because daughters don't do that.
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Yeah, I feel like daughters. If the roles were reversed, I really think people would be like, hey, is he controlling you? Like, no one's really diving into that. I don't know. It's a sad situation.
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Also, I do have to say Nicola does follow me on Tick Tock, which means she has, like, incredible taste, like, highbrow taste in comedy. So I have to factor that in. But then also, I. Victoria Beckham is my everything.
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If I'm at my wedding and Posh Spice wants to dance, I'm going to let her freaking dance. She could beat me over the head.
C
In the face at my wedding with.
B
The cutlery at the wedding. And I'd be like, thanks.
C
People are attacking me and our, Our Fallon of me doing the worm going, Victoria Beckham at Nicole's wedding. But the truth is, this is like family. And I, I, it feels like dirty and. But also, let's remember, British press is really intense, is insane, like, next level. And I know this as a tennis watcher, that, yeah, in all the Grand Slams, Wimbledon is the one where, like, there's always chaos because the press, like, goes insane with the players and it's, like, unacceptable.
B
Wait.
C
Yeah.
B
Speaking of tennis, is there something going on with two of the tenant? Yeah, what's going on with the two?
C
If you guys want to know. Okay. Okay. Naomi Osaka.
B
Yeah.
C
And Serana Christella. Now, Christey has been in the game for a long time. She's 35. This is her last year of playing. This is her last Australian Open. She's playing. Naomi Osaka, who has. Is gonna go down as one of the greatest of all times, had a baby and is now, like, coming back. Hasn't fully.
B
Oh, I didn't know she had a bab.
C
Yeah. She was basically at the top of her game. Like, everyone's like, she's the next. Serena had a baby, and now she's, like, coming back. She's seated now. She's doing great. I feel like a full ESPN sports broadcaster right now. This is the thing about women's tennis. It's brutal. Like, it's one on one for, like, three hours. You're basically fighting a girl. You'd love it. And you're like, tell me more. What are the strategies?
B
So.
C
So in tennis, there's all these, like, little things that make things, like, rude or not rude. Like, for example, the last one with Taylor Townsend and someone else, Osapenko, got mad because she won a point when the ball hit the top of the net and came over, which is, like, lucky. And if you win a point, even if it's not the reason you won the point, but it happened during the point, you should put your hand up to just acknowledge, like, I'm sorry.
B
Mm.
C
Which is funny because baseball, I love.
B
That in women's tennis, it's like. And also be courteous.
C
You also. You. You have to win, but you also have to say sorry for winning. Oh, my God.
B
You have to apologize.
C
But meanwhile, baseball. The guy will take a hard baseball rock, hit a guy square in the back, square in the back, and he won't say sorry. I'll be like, what's up? I'm watching with Des. I'm like, he didn't put his hand up. And he's like, they just don't do that. And I'm like, you. That was by accident. You can say sorry. He didn't purposely hit the guy.
B
Not to bring the heated rivalry into it.
C
All you have to. We all do.
B
All I see are, like, hockey clips and them fighting. And then I saw a hockey clip, and it was like, kids, hockey. Like, maybe the kids were, like, 11, 12 years old, and they were letting them truly beat the. Out of each Other on the ice. And I'm like, hey, this is so crazy that this is even an allowed thing in the sport. Like, I don't understand that girls hockey, like, do that.
C
I don't think.
B
No, because they're normal.
C
Kill each other with words.
B
I think because I like, was so passionate about traders that I kept getting tick tocks of like professional athletes that have done some of the most horrible things to women and their girlfriends, wives. And it's like. And then they got a 50 deal to play for the next five years. And it was like they got. They strangled their girlfriend. They had to sit out two games. They got caught smoking weed. Had to sit out for. And so it's like there's all these little things in these like super male dominated arenas that like, I feel like we don't even notice because we're like, we're not even in there.
C
Yeah.
B
That subconsciously teach them. Like, no, you can do that. Like, just as long as you're good at a sport. We don't give a.
C
Now for women's tennis, I do have to say, like, this is happening all the time. Like, this isn't like a crazy drama. Like, there's other matches where there was drama and like, it's just Naomi's such a star. Yeah. When you win a point, you're allowed to be like, come on. But when I say come on, there's also rules. You can't do it now that. Oh, you have to curtail your voice. You have to curtail. You're not allowed to say come on like at the girl. You have to like, say it in the general vicinity. So if I hit a winner and I look at you and I go, come on. Right at you. That's considered bad worksmanship. But if I turn to my team or I just say come on in the, in the air, it's okay.
B
Hockey, I can pull my helmet off.
C
Well, look, tennis is a gentleman sport, as they say. But it's funny, I've never said it out loud. And me saying out loud, the nuances sound insane.
B
No, that sounds insane.
C
You're just like, yeah, these are like the rules. Also in junior tennis, you call your own lines. So that means like you're basically your own umpire. Do you know how much cheating was happening? Everyone's parents are about to be beat the of them out. If they lose, you're like, out. And they're like, it's just. Anyway. Anyway, I have mental illness, so. So what happened is Naomi's pumped up, it's a third set, and Serana Christea, she misses her first serve, and she's about to hit a second serve. Also, if. If someone misses, it's considered, like, not great sportsmanship to say, come on. Because it's like, they made a mistake. You didn't do anything. It's one thing. If it's a force error, which means I hit a really good shot which made you make a mistake, that's okay. But if someone just, like, double faults, you don't say like, come on. So Serana missed her first serve and.
B
They all have cotillion while you're also trying to play a goddamn support.
C
Yeah. You're literally competing and also having to, like, mind your man. British. You have to be British. So. So after the first serve, Naomi is, like, pumping herself up. She's like, come on, let's go. But I could see how Serana would be like, are you cheering for my, like, first serve miss? But look, it's like, it's one of those things where it's like, it's third set. It's war. You're in a war. She then decides to kind of Karen it and go to the umpire and be like, is she allowed to do that? And the umpire is like, you mean, like between serves? And she's like, is she allowed to? And the umpire's like, yeah, she's allowed to because it wasn't a hindrance because.
B
You weren't speak between Serbs.
C
But then it's like, but in theory, it's, I guess, consider kind of bad sportsmanship to say, come on. After someone misses a serve. However, Naomi also was, like, pumping herself up. So it's very nuanced.
B
This is really funny for me, specifically because we have an inside joke in my family that, like, the only phrase my dad says is, come on.
C
Wait. He loves that. That's his vocal stim. Come on, come on.
B
Anytime something happens, like in our family, if you get a text that says, paige, come on, come on, with a bunch of n's. We know in dad's voice, you're pissed off, but also, you don't really care. It's just a small aggravation.
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C
Magical.
B
This was so like, I just. I love you.
C
Become.
B
He goes now the Uber to the place and back home. I didn't like that guy. But the second day, that guy knew what he was doing. Why didn't you get his card? He could have driven you.
C
I'm obsessed with him.
B
And I'm like, so in the past three days, the only. The only things you've wanted to speak your mind about is the transportation.
C
I'm obsessed with him. That. That reminds me of my first show at the Palladium in New York City that I sold out, and everyone's freaking out. And my opener, Tracy Carnasso, she drove in from Queens. She gets in, and my dad walks in and he says hi to Tracy, and he goes, how'd you get here? And she goes, oh, I parked. And he goes, goes, you found a parking spot in Times Square? And she's like, yeah, I got. I. There's this place around the corner. I. He goes, you found a Hannah, she found a parking spot in Times Square. Literally, I do the whole show, like, best night of my life. Get off. We're in the car. My dad goes, tracy Carnazzo, that girl, she found a parking spot in Times Square. He talks about this for two weeks. He sees her now. He goes, remember when you found that parking spot in Times Square? That is so dad, like, literally walked off the stage, and he goes, tracy's awesome. Tracy's awesome. And also, you know, I couldn't drive at that point, so it was very triggering for me. I was like, I feel like this is coming towards me. So anyway, Naomi Serana, you can go to the umpire and be like, is that girl in trouble? Like, what's going on? Like, it's. They're, like, going. You're like, mom. Mom.
B
Yeah.
C
Like, you tattle. And then the person was like, this isn't. This is one of these rules that's like. That's between you two. Like, that's a right. It's not, like, a form. It's a nuance. So clearly. And Naomi is clearly like, this girl's mad at me. And it gets fucking heated.
B
Hey, quick, before we start again, are you mad at me?
C
It's. It's, like, very obvious, so. Oh, also, what you love is, like, when you play, if I hit a ball and you call it out and I know you cheated me, I can't get you to change it. All I can do is be like, are you sure? So I basically come to the net and go, are you sure? Basically, like, are you gonna do this? Because then I'm gonna cheat you back later.
B
So all girls fucking passive aggressive. That's so British. I feel like.
C
And then the girl responds, and she'll be like, yeah. And then you go, how far was it out? Because you know she's cheating. So you go, how far was it? And then she'll make, like, a huge, like, two feet. And I'm like, okay, cool. This was my childhood. This is.
B
Oh, my God, Hannah. That feels very Southern. Like, bless your heart. Where you're like, yes.
C
Would you just say to me, bitch, are you sure? It's basically me going, I don't believe you. Are you sure? And then you wait and you cheat them when it's the most important point of the set. But I digress. That's just.
B
Okay. It's like seeing TikTok videos and I was just like, I can't fully understand what they're fighting about.
C
People think Serana was mad that Naomi said, come on. It's, it's. It's because it was in between her first and second serve, which is, like, kind of unheard of. But in the third set, things get heated and, like, I've done it. Yeah, you just get pumped up and you're just, like, talking. Also, Naomi was talking to herself. That was also the nuance. Naomi was like, come on, like, pump yourself up. She wasn't. She wasn't like, being like, yeah, you hit the serve wide. Yeah, come on.
B
Yeah.
C
And also Naomi is known to actually have, like, really good sportsmanship and be.
B
Really very good etiquette on the court.
C
Yeah, she's always holds herself really, like, like, not too many emotions.
B
I feel like I've seen some of her speeches.
C
Yeah, she's very, like, soft spoken. She's not known for, like, like, yelling that much, which, like, a lot girls love to yell in tennis. But at the end, Serana loses, comes up to the net and like an aggressive. The handshake is a whole thing.
B
Okay, I saw that. And then did Naomi say what was that for?
C
Yes. So Naomi is again showing that, like, Naomi is innocent. Naomi, like, doesn't even know that she pissed her off and what she did. Okay. When you come to the net, if you don't like the girl, you do literally, like a limp, barely touch. Okay? That's how you. Because you have to shake their hand after. And if you like them, you give them a hug. And if it's just like a normal match, whatever, you just shake it.
B
It's in the rule book that you must shake hands after.
C
You have to shake hands after. Which me saying this out loud I've never thought of before. But, like, it's like, imagine after fighting with someone, you have to shake their hand regardless of what happens. And you could be like 13 years old. I was crying the whole match, and then I have to go shake their hand. Oh.
B
I mean, I guess it's like when, like. I mean, but do they.
C
After chess. It's like, if you play chess.
B
No, I was gonna say, like, after, like baseball, when they get in a line and they go down there. Like, do they do that in professional.
C
Yeah, they do. They do. So, like, it's basically like, end of mad, shake hand. If you're really mad, you don't shake their hand. But Serana comes in and, like, does a whole, like, kind of pushes her thing. And Naomi's literally like, what hap. What are you talking about?
B
I saw the video, and she was like, what was that for?
C
And I guess she kind of figures it out. But then Naomi then out. Interviewer comes up to you in that moment when you know you're hot. Like, you. Yeah, you just got assaulted. Like, you just. You realize someone is basically saying, hates you, and she's processing it. And Naomi, it was like, the first time she ever got, like, a little sassy. And she was like, I don't know, if it was my last Australian Open, I'd be mad, too. And it was like, she's basically saying, like, your career's done, bitch.
B
Sorry. I got a text message.
C
I was like. That was the punchline. I was like. That was the whole story was for that moment. Well, share it with the class.
B
Wait, that was actually from someone at the bank. It was like, anytime I see the word fraud, I'm like. I'm like, oh, no. I literally. I become British.
C
I don't know why I was a fraud alert. Okay, I respect that.
B
That is crazy.
C
If it was my last Australian Open, I'd be mad, too.
B
Yeah.
C
Basically being like, this is done. Like, I'd be mad, too, if this is how you end. Like, I'm sad for you. And then. Yeah, she said. And then she ended it. She's so Gen Z. She was like, bro. And she never says bro. She was like, bro. She never says bro. Like, she was like. She's like, so, like. Like, talk to her friends. She was like, bro. Like, they're always, like, so robotic because they're just like. Like all. They're all sponsored by, like, Rolex. Like, tennis. Like, you have to be like.
B
No, tennis.
C
Really gentlemanly and chic. So anyway. But also, like, it was actually like a day in the life of a tennis player. Like, this happens all the time, and people don't really know the nuances. So everyone's, like, freaking out. But basically, sir, they all. They got heated, and that's what happened. He did. Rivalry.
B
This was a legit sports podcast today.
C
No, I know. Also, some people will message me and be like, hey, can you discuss this sports stuff? Like, people are getting into it. They really are.
B
Oh, because tennis has such. Like. I just keep using this Word. But it really does have such nuances, especially because I really feel like tennis is the only sport, even more so than golf, where, like, people watch the women just as much, if not more than the men. Do you know what I mean? Like, and they're. They're at the same. They're in the same places. They're at the same tournaments. So it is very interesting.
C
When I was little and I saw Serena Williams, I was like, that's what I want to do. Like, because that was a woman getting, like, as much or more respect than the men. And I was like, oh, I like that power. Oh, I like that feeling.
B
I hate to revert back to my reality TV roots, but all I can think of is, like, they all must sleep with each other, and they all must, like, get into fights, and they. It must be so. There must be such good gossip.
C
There's also a locker room. So, like, after they play, they have to go in the locker room together. Yeah. They're not just, like, walking home. Like, they have to go to the locker room. There's a players lounge. There's a.
B
Wait, why did I, like, immediate. Why did I think it was like, everyone has their own green room type situation? Because it's an individual.
C
It's Love Island. Everyone's. I mean, Wimbledon. There's a Wimbledon. Like, it's a city where everyone just stays during the tournament. But the funny thing is, the girls, like, they don't. They're not friends with each other, really. There is a podcast that I will recommend if you love tennis, called the Players Box, with my friend Jesse Pigul.
B
Very cute name.
C
Madison Keys, Jennifer Brady, and Desiree Krazic. I think I pronounced her last name right. But she's, like, incredible. They're all incredible. Anyway, so watch that. Really? Just, like, some positive news.
B
Yeah.
C
Fetty Wap is back.
B
No, like, and he looks healthy, you know, like, wait, he does.
C
He looks strong. He was lifting. Not to. Not to talk about a man's body, but he looks good.
B
Not to sexualize Fetty Wap, but I could not help but think, eating good in jail, like, what were you eating?
C
It's kind of like Chappelle, how he went from, like, so skinny to one day. I'm like, he could carry me. He could pick me up, like, completely body. Like, body shape.
B
You want to know what was so wholesome about Fetty Wap? He, like, genuinely thought that we, like, forgot about him, you know, and it's like, no, no. We've just been holding out.
C
I thought about him every day. I don't even know what he did. And I. To be honest, I don't care because he brought so much joy to my life. I can separate the artist from the art.
B
I actually have no idea what he.
C
I think it was, like. It was, like, minor drug related.
B
If I had a knuckle, you know, like, what?
C
Yeah, no one was murdered. Well, I'll look into it later. I put on Trap Queen yesterday before my show, and I was like, that was the most beautiful time. And then this is what it's like to be married to me. Like, Des was, like, falling asleep last night. Like, everything was peaceful. And he just gets a text from me being like, am I your trap queen? And he's like, what? And I'm like, am I your trap queen? And he's like, lose my number. I can't deal with this right now. I'm literally falling asleep. And I'm like, so you hate me? Okay, so you don't even. So if I'm not your trap cream, what am I? What am I to.
B
You are. You are, like, annoying. You are how I feel when, like, someone. Gen Z texts me the most insane text and they're being dead serious, and all I want to text back is, there's no way you're fucking serious texting me that. I think that's a good way to end this week.
C
Oh, my God. Yes. Paige needs to now that I'm awake.
B
So I have to jump on a flight.
C
You have to go. I love you so.
B
I'm so excited to see you in person.
C
I know. I miss you.
B
I miss you so much.
C
It's been forever, and I need to hug.
B
We need.
C
I'm on, like, a high for my coffee, but I do have to let you know when I get down from the high. I will be mad at you about this. I love you guys so much. No, this was like a drunken episode. Thank you for giggling. We'll talk to you later. Bye.
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Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: January 23, 2026
This episode of Giggly Squad is a lively, candid, and tangential romp through sports, socializing, mental health, making mistakes, etiquette (especially in tennis), and why sometimes canceling plans just feels so good. Recorded at an ungodly hour due to scheduling misadventures (Hannah on LA time, Paige about to catch a flight), the hosts meander through personal stories, sports drama, pop culture insights, and make each other—and their listeners—giggle about the weird rules of life and the unexpected tenderness found in both sports and family.
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“You're not overreacting. If anything, you could be underreacting and you'll think about it in five years.” – Paige [06:40]
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“It's just about having really hard takes about things you don't know that much about.” – Hannah [09:46]
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“Imagine after fighting with someone, having to shake their hand regardless of what happens.” – Hannah [47:42]
“If it was my last Australian Open, I’d be mad, too.” – Naomi Osaka (via Hannah) [49:31]
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The episode is a testament to the power of not taking yourself too seriously, of giggling through life's absurd etiquette—whether in tennis, family, or friendship—and of finding joy in the random, even when sleep-deprived. Hannah and Paige remind us that life is about solidarity, humor, and the occasional savage comeback, whether on the court or at the podcast mic.