Giggling about the manosphere, body counts, and cyber trucks

Summary

Giggly Squad: Giggling about the Manosphere, Body Counts, and Cyber Trucks

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Date: March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Hannah and Paige take their trademark giggly approach to today’s wildly controversial corners of the internet, dissecting the "manosphere," casting side-eyes at red-pill influencers, and questioning the obsession with "body counts." They also riff on the cybertruck phenomenon, aging, dating power dynamics, personal fashion, and the age-old debate: cats or dogs? The conversation bounces between pop culture hot takes, social commentary, personal confessions, and genuinely hilarious tangents—the best of Giggly Squad energy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Steps, Self-Care, and Cancel Culture

• Healthy Steps Myth: The duo jokes about daily step goals.
  • Paige: "We're all trying to get 10k steps but we just found out you only need 7k to be healthy." (01:38)
  • Hannah: "I still try and do 10. But I need to always be holding my phone cuz that's how I get my steps tracked." (01:45)
• Oura Ring Excuses: Paige jokes she used her smart ring's exhaustion reports to cancel plans (02:08) and both laugh about their “most powerful” moments being when they mutually enable each other's cancelation streaks:
  • Paige: "That's actually when me and you are at our most powerful, when we both enable each other to cancel everything." (02:25)

2. Celebrity Burnout: The Chapel Ron Debates

• Discussion of Chapel Ron (fictional Gen-Z popstar) struggling with fame and paparazzi, with both sides empathizing and poking fun at generational reactions:
  • Hannah: "There's a part of my millennial makeup where I'm like, suck it up." (03:05)
  • Paige: "It's not normal to be famous, like, to process fame... Navigating fame as a young person, it's not perfect, and it's chaos— but at the end of the day, when you're in her position, no one feels bad for you." (03:12–03:42)

3. Raincoats, Shopping Fatigue & Fashion Anxiety

• Rainy day outfits and last-minute fashion crises before a podcast award show:
  • Hannah: "I'm not feeling great because I really, like...I dropped the ball on this because I was like, oh, it's in a couple weeks. Then it was like, it's on Monday." (05:46)
  • Paige: "When you hit rock bottom, that's when you can only go up, and that's when change comes." (06:22)

4. Parasocial Effects and Male Celebrity Discourse

• Listeners ("Gigglers") fuel Hannah’s rabbit holes about male celebs, from Jonah Hill to Paul Wall, often resulting in unexpected drama surfacing post-mention.
  • Hannah: "Every time you bring up a man on the podcast, then, like, I get a TikTok of this man or, like, something—he's in the news." (07:21)
  • Paige: "We need to stop putting men on." (07:55)

5. The Manosphere Deep Dish: Rage Bait, Red Pill, and the Cult of Insecurity

[09:36–28:41]

• Paige gives a detailed walk-through of the Manosphere as portrayed in Louis Theroux's documentary, explaining red pill ideology, manosphere grifts, OnlyFans backlash, and dating power dynamics.
  • Defining the Manosphere:
    • Paige: "The Manosphere is what Gen Z boys consume... You're born as a man with no value... the only way you get value is from listening to us." (10:22)
    • Grifters sell e-books, build “high-value” male personas, and create echo chambers of toxic advice.
  • Call-backs to "The Game"/Pickup Artist era:
    • Hannah: "There was a book that every guy read... how to be mean to girls to get them to like you." (12:04)
    • Paige: "It basically like makes women seem like these dumb objects that if you do certain things, you can trick them to like you." (12:25)
  • Body Counts and OnlyFans Obsession:
    • Paige: "He brings these OnlyFans girls on, and I'm like, why are these girls going on when it's just a setup to embarrass them? ...They're promoting their OnlyFans." (21:07)
    • Hannah: "Even if [men] made an OnlyFans, it's never going to gross the same amount, because women aren't like...going on and watching OnlyFans guys." (21:36)
  • Rage-Bait Monetization:
    • Paige: "It turned out being less about there being a culture where every man hates women. It’s more, hey, there are men that realize they can monetize dumb men by saying rage bait about women." (40:33)
  • Dating Age Gaps & Power Dynamics:
    • Bleak insights into why older men date much younger women (manipulation, insecurity, and uneven power dynamics):
      • Paige: "When I was 25, I dated a guy who was 35, insane, and I thought he was the shit... after a year, I started having panic attacks because... I knew that when I dated this guy... he was like, perfect, this girl’s lost and confused." (27:22)
      • Hannah: "If you're a 36-year-old man and you are interested in someone under 30, it's because you know that no girls your age would ever deal with you." (26:44)

6. Masculinity, Toxicity, and Queer Subtext

• A pointed discussion challenging toxic masculinity and the possibility that latent queerness is at play for some male manosphere members:
  • Paige: "The opposite of toxic masculinity is not being weak. It's not being toxic. Be a good, strong, masculine man. Don't hate on women. If you want to sleep with a man, sleep with a man." (41:08)
  • Hannah: "Also, a lot of them do just want to be gay." (41:19)

7. Fashion Talk: Pixie Cuts and Outfit Anxiety

• Whiplash into beauty and fashion, with Paige trying to convince Hannah to go for a pixie cut, boasting her bone structure and “Audrey Hepburn” vibes, and discussing the stress of pulling off trends.
  • Paige: "Because my thing is, I just see Audrey Hepburn. When your face is so fucking chiseled and snatched...they've never seen so many angles of a cheekbone." (48:13)

8. Cats vs. Dogs: Personality & Pet Antics

• Extended riff on cat vs. dog personalities, pet hygiene, and how cats are low-maintenance, emotionally stable, and (in their eyes) superior to dogs:
  • Hannah: "Why doesn't anyone ever talk about cats getting ticks when there's way more [stray cats]?" (63:53)
  • Paige: "This is the last thing I'm saying about dogs and cats. This is why I love cats. When there's a thunderstorm, cats are like, cool. ...When I tell you the thunderstorm, dogs freak out. They're barking... they're scared. ...Butter was mesmerized...she's looking at all the wet people outside, and she's just taking it in like an observational comic." (67:08)

9. Closing with Trends & Tangents

• Closing banter includes reflections on 90s magazines, body image, food-guilt, Zara Larsson’s abs, and individual beverage quirks.
• They wrap up with excitement for upcoming events/outfits and tease a Daphne Lemmy collab for the next episode.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On fame culture:
  • "It's not normal to be famous... But when you're in her [Chapel Ron’s] position, no one feels bad for you." — Paige (03:12)
• On manosphere grifters:
  • "All these guys are basically taking advantage of like young or insecure lost men... pay for my ebook and sign up for this." — Paige (11:46)
• On gendered hate:
  • "Somebody said to me the other day, 'Oh, her whole shtick is hating men.' And I go, it's not a shtick—it's my real personality." — Hannah (13:15)
• On power imbalances in relationships:
  • "If you're a 36-year-old man and you are interested in someone under 30, it's because... no girls your age would ever deal with you." — Hannah (26:44)
• On toxic masculinity:
  • "The opposite of toxic masculinity is not being weak... Be a good, strong, masculine man. Don't hate on women. If you want to sleep with a man, sleep with a man." — Paige (41:08)
• On cats vs. dogs:
  • "This is the last thing I'm saying about dogs and cats. This is why I love cats. When there's a thunderstorm, cats are like, cool. ...Cats are like, this is a piece of art. This is Michelangelo." — Paige (67:08)

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Important Timestamps

• Manosphere & Red Pill Deep Dive: 09:36–28:41
• Story about cooking for a man/relationship power:
  • Hannah exposes Paige: 13:23
• Cults, OnlyFans, Body Counts: 19:47–28:41
• Age gap dating, power dynamics: 26:10–28:41
• Final Manosphere commentary: 40:33–41:27
• Pet debate (cats vs dogs): 63:43–68:02
• Fashion advice for spring: 68:17–69:15

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Episode Tone & Language

Playful, candid, irreverent, deeply millennial/Gen-Z in humor and reference points. The conversation is fast-paced and organically tangential; jokes and self-roasts punctuate more serious points about gender, relationships, and internet culture.

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For New Listeners

You don’t need to know the latest manosphere drama or own a pair of Crocs to vibe with this episode. Hannah and Paige distill the big internet trends into witty, digestible social commentary, all while keeping it fiercely personal and laugh-out-loud funny. If you want the tea on online masculinity myths, modern dating, personal style anxiety, and the eternal dog vs. cat debate—all sprinkled with giggle breaks—this is essential listening.

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Next up: Look forward to the Daphne Lemmy collab discussion on Friday!

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Transcript

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[Hannah]

Gary, fix your wi fi.

[Paige]

Manifest that shit.

[Hannah]

We can't be manage. I mean the day just got away from me.

[Paige]

What's up my galloping gigglers? We're all trying to get 10k steps but we just found out you only need 7k to be healthy.

[Hannah]

But I still try and do 10.

[Paige]

No one has time. You know how fast you have to walk to do 10k every day?

[Hannah]

Do you want to know? It's actually not as hard as you think. But I need to always be holding my phone cuz that's how I get my steps tracked. Which I know everyone's gonna be like, okay, well that's why they invented an aura ring.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

I can't.

[Hannah]

That's against my religion.

[Paige]

Yeah, that's not your vibe. Also, I don't think they make them small enough for your fingers.

[Hannah]

They probably don't.

[Paige]

Also, oura ring kept telling me I was tired, so I kept using as an excuse to cancel everything.

[Hannah]

I'm in one of those moods where like every couple of months I'll get in a mood where I'm like actually you can't tell me what to do. And I'm not going. Canceled. And they're like, contractually. And I'm like, call my lawyer. I'm not going.

[Paige]

That's actually when me and you are at our most powerful, when we both enable each other to cancel everything. I feel like Chapel run on tour. I feel like a Gen Z pop star who's been told by her label she has a tour for three years, and she goes, how about no.

[Hannah]

Thank you so much for bringing up Chapel.

[Paige]

Oh, yeah. Chapel Ron has been in the news.

[Hannah]

She's been wild out in the streets. And. And I. I. You want to know what? I have two different minds.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Of thinking in one sense. I'm like, yes. The things that people have done to celebrities in the past has caused them irreparable harm. Irreparable.

[Paige]

Irreparable. Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, literally. But there's also a part of, like, my millennial makeup where I'm like, suck it up.

[Paige]

And look, it's not normal to be famous, like, to process fame. However, if you want to avoid paparazzi and avoid stuff like, you don't have to go to fashion shows. Totally. But she probably is like, I want to go to the fashion show. But then. But then people take videos making her look like she doesn't want to be at the fashion show. Right. I think she's navigating fame as a young person, and it's not perfect, and it's chaos, but at the end of the day, when you have money, when you. When you're in her position, no one feels bad for you.

[Hannah]

Also, like, Justin Bieber has, like, yelled at paparazzi or. Yeah. And we're. And we're like.

[Paige]

Everyone's like, go off, King.

[Hannah]

We're like, let's make it into a meme. We're obsessed.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

But Chapel wrote it on a team. She's evil, angry redhead off our screens. Yeah.

[Paige]

So, people, I just think she's navigating fame, and it's difficult and hard.

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Sorry.

[Hannah]

I'm in a raincoat today. So, like, every movement I make, I'm just like, it's squeaky. Sorry. I'm in a raincoat.

[Paige]

I have to say, you love rain.

[Hannah]

I love when it rains.

[Paige]

Cause you think you're like, Barbie. I mean, you are an Italian Barbie. So you're like, it's raincoat day.

[Hannah]

Well, in my head, it's either God has given everyone collectively a day off, and he's like, it's raining. You don't have to go outside. Or it's like, you could bring out your Raincoat that you haven't been able to wear and I've had for a couple months. And so I broke out my raincoat. It has a belt.

[Paige]

Hello.

[Hannah]

It has a belt.

[Paige]

When you saw it was raining, did you almost text me to cancel? Did it cross your mind?

[Hannah]

No, because I had my raincoat. If I didn't. When I saw it was raining, if my first thought wasn't your raincoat, I would have texted you and said, what if we did virtual today? It's crazy.

[Paige]

I'm dressed like a 50s housewife when it rains. I don't know.

[Hannah]

You came walking toward me, and I was like, someone in Connecticut.

[Paige]

I'm wearing a kitten heel.

[Hannah]

He's missing their clothes.

[Paige]

A light blue shirt. Of course, when I called my Uber, it's like the one time he doesn't know where to find me, so I had to walk in the rain to get him. And it was like, a whole thing, but I.

[Hannah]

What's your little scarf, honey?

[Paige]

So it's attached to the T shirt. If you're watching on YouTube, I have a accessory. It kind of looks like a labia, but in, like, the best way.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And you could, like, swing it around.

[Hannah]

It's kind of giving. Nautical.

[Paige]

Yeah, it's. We're definitely on different wavelengths, which, as we are. Totally fine as we are. We're recording this before the Oscars. Yeah. And we have our own little podcast award show on Monday. Yes. I've picked out a risky dress. You don't have a dress. How are you feeling?

[Hannah]

I'm not feeling great because I really, like. I feel like I dropped the ball on this because I was like, oh, yeah, it's in a couple weeks. It's in a couple weeks. And then it was like, it's actually on Monday. I had a nickel, and I was like, oh, right.

[Paige]

This is how I feel for everything.

[Hannah]

Usually I'm in a shopping mood. In the past couple of weeks, I haven't been in a shopping mood. So, like, I haven't even gone.

[Paige]

Well, we went shopping last week, and all you got was sunglasses. And I was a little worried about you.

[Hannah]

I get like that.

[Paige]

Like, hey, can I talk to you for a sec? Is everything okay?

[Hannah]

Give me drama. Give me, like, different trends. Like, over. Like, I've seen it, seen it, seen it. I'm like, I don't care. I'm like, let me just wear my raincoat in peace.

[Paige]

But you know what they say. When you hit rock bottom, that's when you can only go up, and that's when change comes do you see? Mo Robbins commented on. Mo Robins commented on our clip where I talked about anxiety being a question. No. When she. She was like, I think I.

[Hannah]

Coming from my brand.

[Paige]

No, I think I'm in with Mel Robbins now.

[Hannah]

Wait, what did she say?

[Paige]

I forget. But it was something like supportive, like, love this or something, because I think Grace made the caption. Hannah, Mel Robbins burner.

[Hannah]

Wait, I love that. Do you know what else I saw on the Internet?

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

Which.

[Hannah]

Okay, sometimes. Sometimes the gigglers enable me. Like, they're actually really bad enablers.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And they'll be like, no.

[Paige]

In the best way.

[Hannah]

Right. And I'm like, I knew I was.

[Paige]

Our DMs from the gigglers are so different. Continue.

[Hannah]

Sometimes they'll DM me and be like, I know you can't DM me back because people are crazy. But, like, I know you're thinking right

[Paige]

now, and I know you're reading this,

[Hannah]

and I always want to be like, I am reading this.

[Paige]

Well, if you start it with, I'm a giggler, we will read it.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And one girl DM'd me, and she was like, I'm sorry, but I just have to call attention that. Like, every time you bring up a man on the podcast, then, like, I get a TikTok of this man or, like, something like, he's in the news. Like, okay, remember when I was like, oh, I love. Not Seth Rogen. Who's the other one?

[Paige]

Oh, yeah, Jonah Hill. Jonah Hill.

[Hannah]

That's so mean. Not Seth Rogen, but Jonah Hill. But, like, you get what I'm saying.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

Then it was like, he's mean to all. All the women that he dates. Whatever. I talked about Paul Wall, he's everywhere now. He's everywhere.

[Paige]

But this is what I don't love. Like, I support men in the arts, but, like, we need to stop putting men on.

[Hannah]

Well, I actually think Paul Wall didn't do anything bad.

[Paige]

No, I think he's really good for the community of Houston.

[Hannah]

Yeah. I think they love him there. But, like, all of a sudden, I'm. Everyone's DMing me. Like, all these videos.

[Paige]

He's, like, rapping at my wedding.

[Hannah]

I'm like, this guy literally was under

[Paige]

a bridge in my community theater.

[Hannah]

And also, he looks phenomenal.

[Paige]

He does.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

He's like, you know what? Because he's been out of the drama. When you're not in drama, your skin flourishes.

[Hannah]

That's so true.

[Paige]

And he always wears grills so his teeth are protected.

[Hannah]

I don't know if he still is Wearing, Actually, he might have been in the one video.

[Paige]

I don't know if you can take

[Hannah]

them off and then remember when I brought up the guy from 10 Things I Hate About You? And then all of a sudden, there was, like, a big article about how he may or may not be in a cult?

[Paige]

Not Heath Ledger.

[Hannah]

No, the other guy.

[Paige]

Well, speaking of cults.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Oh, wait, I do want to say all my DMS are just people going, paige is going to be so mad at you. Why? Because they know I'm rage beating. So I got the Crocs Lego Collab.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

And I have.

[Hannah]

Yes.

[Paige]

You like your algorithm.

[Hannah]

Did I see it?

[Paige]

You probably threw your phone and broke it. Or you haven't seen it. Let me see it.

[Hannah]

On Instagram or Tik Tok.

[Paige]

Instagram, usually.

[Hannah]

I usually go the time you're posting, sometimes you go through. Well, that's not a real shoe.

[Paige]

It is.

[Hannah]

It's an art piece.

[Paige]

Which.

[Hannah]

You're wearing that out Fashion. How could you wear it out?

[Paige]

How heavy? With a Capri.

[Hannah]

This is like a gag.

[Paige]

I should have shown up with them today.

[Hannah]

They look heavy.

[Paige]

You know what y' all do, I think, for fashion. So anyway, my DMs are just full of people being like, paige is gonna lose it. Paige is gonna be so mad.

[Hannah]

Those aren't even practice shaking.

[Paige]

Those are all my DMs. But speaking about cults, my favorite thing to talk about, I watched the documentary called Inside the Manosphere. Okay, so there's this guy, Louis Thoreau, who's known for doing, like, crazy documentaries about, like, murderers. He just, like, he exposes people. But the way he does it is he, like. He's this, like, nice British guy who's inquisitive, and he just asks people questions and then lets them talk. I mean, what's that like? Like, he asks a question and then doesn't finish their sentences.

[Hannah]

Okay. And he's not thinking about what he wants to say.

[Paige]

Now ask it. And he sits there and, like, lets them reveal themselves. That's like, his art form. So the Manosphere doc, I watch it with Des. I was like, this is going to piss me off. But fine, let's watch it.

[Hannah]

What is Manosphere?

[Paige]

Great question. So the Manosphere is basically not on our algorithm. The Manosphere is what Gen Z boys consume because.

[Hannah]

Oh, like, their whole, like, red pill

[Paige]

thing, the concept is that you're born as a man with no value.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

Which is already, like, very cultish to be. Like, the only way you get value is from listening to us. So to get value, you have to. You can't just be a 9 to 5, like loser. Which again, there's like a good, cool concept of being like, don't get stuck in a bad 9 to 5. Like chase your dreams. Like with all cults. Like it's. It kind of makes broader. In the beginning you're like, I could get into this.

[Hannah]

Yeah, don't get stuck is like, it's about community.

[Paige]

And it always like.

[Hannah]

And then they're like, kindness is nice.

[Paige]

Yes. You're like, okay, so like younger men will be like, yeah. And basically how society is just like, everything is going against them. Which is ironic because that's not how it is for white men. But they're told that like, no, everything is going against them. Like women are hate them and all this stuff. And so they then follow these like ultra. And I put in parentheses in quotations, Baskin looking men who are like, I live my life as a high value man. And if you follow me and you pay for my ebook and you sign

[Hannah]

up for this, I knew there was

[Paige]

an E book somewhere. You'll get rich quick. So all these guys are basically taking advantage of like young or insecure lost men to follow them before you proceed. Yes.

[Hannah]

I feel like the world as a whole always like history repeats itself.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I would say like 10, 15 years ago there was a book that every guy read.

[Paige]

I was about to this. The second they started, I go, this reminds me of the pickup artist. I remember guys talking about the book

[Hannah]

and it was basically like, in nice terms, how to be mean to girls to get them to like you.

[Paige]

When a guy was telling me about it, it basically like makes women seem like these dumb objects that like, if you do certain things, you can trick them to like you. But the guys that it was attracting were guys who like, had their own issues.

[Hannah]

And it would be like guys that are in their early 40s now read it in college.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

That was like the age group.

[Paige]

And it targets men who like, are insecure and maybe had some bad experiences with women. Like, women don't like them. But it's not because women are bad people. It's because they need to gain their own confidence. But instead of blaming like how many

[Hannah]

losers I've loved, like, that's just like, not.

[Paige]

Yeah, like they don't like a girl to like.

[Hannah]

No, I've liked a lot of losers.

[Paige]

They basically say like, girls are the problem and if we can eliminate them. So I thought the documentary was going to be like, wait.

[Hannah]

Somebody said to me the other day, oh, well, her whole shtick is hating men. And I go, it's not a shtick.

[Paige]

It's not a shtick.

[Hannah]

It's my real personality.

[Paige]

Wait, can I call you out? Paige cooked a meal for a man.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God. No, I literally am. I hate men. Then I go home and I treat mine like a princess.

[Paige]

Paige cooked a meal for a man, wasn't going to tell me because she knew that I'd make fun of her because she knows I live that life. Like, I talk about it and I be about it, but she talks about it and then goes home and makes a meal, and she. You literally try to hide it from me. And that in that moment, I laughed so hard because you knew I was going to do this on the pod and expose.

[Hannah]

You know, I went as far to, like, go on TikTok and be like, how else can you make broccoli?

[Paige]

Well, I'm dressed like a trad wife right now, so I can't say anything.

[Hannah]

No, we've literally. We've turned a real scary corner. No, first of all, I ate that meal too. It was for myself and someone else just. Just happened to freaking be there.

[Paige]

The fact you didn't want to tell me is what's so funny. I. I have a full intervention for you. I'm like, hey, I heard you cooked broccoli for someone that wasn't yourself.

[Hannah]

Okay, so half of its state was, like, still frozen, so it, like, doesn't even count.

[Paige]

And also, if you start cooking for him, then you could poison him eventually if you have to. There's, like, long game we're playing. So with.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

Also.

[Hannah]

Also, in my defense, I've was hungry. Cooked a meal for a man before.

[Paige]

I cooked a lot of meals for Des during COVID because I was, like, going through something.

[Hannah]

The most I've made is, like a grilled cheese sandwich. Like, I've never prepared a full dinner just for me and another and a man. This is my first time ever.

[Paige]

And how was it? The food in general? The experience?

[Hannah]

Oh, the experience was fun. It didn't take as long as I thought it was going to be. Again, everything was, like, half frozen, so it actually shouldn't have taken longer.

[Paige]

But also from an Italian family, we're really raised, like, guys, like, girls who cook well. Like, I told you once my mom was like, put cookies in the oven. Like, it was a crazy time. Yeah, I. You guys, I didn't realize how little it matters if you can cook or not.

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[Paige]

Change the game for women.

[Hannah]

Actually, a couple months ago, I said something, and I was like, well, I'm not gonna be. How? Like, my mom would go to work, come home.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Make dinner.

[Paige]

Seven jobs.

[Hannah]

And I never thought about it ever. And I said, I don't even know where I was. That, like, my dad was like, paige, you're gonna cook. And I was like, okay, well, not every night. And then my mom was like, if you have children, you are going to cook for that. And I started crying. I literally was like, I don't know what. I was like, oh, my God, we just went back to the 1950s.

[Paige]

I'm not going to.

[Hannah]

You guys are stressing me out. Like, all those meal prep things. And, like, TikTok honestly makes cooking so easy. The girls truly figured out so many things. They're like, you can do this in 10 minutes.

[Paige]

Yeah. I'm so excited for a partnership with Buffalo Wild Wings. First of all. Cause the Buffalo hot. Tall, strong jaw, low voice, great beard.

[Hannah]

Oh, he speaks.

[Paige]

Yes. He's hilarious. Only guy that makes me laugh. Truly.

[Hannah]

One of our favorite things to do together is get the pick six at Buffalo Wild Wings.

[Paige]

Two entrees, two sides, two drinks.

[Hannah]

It's 1999.

[Paige]

1999, girl. When we're doing gossip Sesh, I need multiple options.

[Hannah]

And we're never ordering the same entree because you're eating the rest of mine. And why would you eat something you've already had?

[Paige]

You have to have eating chemistry to be best friends.

[Hannah]

People don't talk about eating chemistry enough.

[Paige]

Yeah. Like, if we both wanted to finish the tots, right, that could be a physical altercation.

[Hannah]

Right. And it's like, I don't need your tots because I have my wedges.

[Paige]

What do you prefer, potato wedges or shoe wedges?

[Hannah]

Oh, potato wedges.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I got the boneless wings and wedges.

[Paige]

I got the chicken dippers and tots. Boneless wings need to be talked about more. Because when you don't have to, like, work to earn a bite. No fuss, no. No mess. No fuss, no muss. No fuss.

[Hannah]

I don't know what it is.

[Paige]

I knew what you meant. I love chicken dippers. Cause they're a vehicle for joy. It starts already. Great. And then I decide what sauce do I want.

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[Paige]

I love the B dubs dip. I love saying B dubs. Also, it's not Buffalo Wild Wings. It's B dubs, baby.

[Hannah]

I knew you were going to say that.

[Paige]

Come see me on deep B Dubs for the pick six.

[Hannah]

We're going to put our friendship to the test and ask Each other. Six rapid fire questions.

[Paige]

Do you think I prefer ranch or blue cheese?

[Hannah]

Ranch.

[Paige]

You're right. I think you prefer ranch.

[Hannah]

I prefer blue cheese. You don't know me. How many unread texts are currently on your phone?

[Paige]

How many do you think?

[Hannah]

15.

[Paige]

73.

[Hannah]

73?

[Paige]

I'm gonna say 13.

[Hannah]

0, bitch.

[Paige]

Milder. Spicy chicken wing.

[Hannah]

Spicy.

[Paige]

I know you want spicy. I'm mild.

[Hannah]

How many minutes into an event are you thinking about? Irish exiting after you get the photo, babe. Yeah, I'm a cool 25 minutes.

[Paige]

Out of everything in our pick six spread, which item would you wanna steal from me?

[Hannah]

The chicken dipper.

[Paige]

Let me see your dipping technique with your long ass fingers.

[Hannah]

Oh. Oh, that's nice. What would you steal from me?

[Paige]

Obviously a boneless wing.

[Hannah]

I can't believe you touched one, said no, and then touched a different one.

[Paige]

You already bit that one. Oh, I was like, oops, someone cooked a deer.

[Hannah]

What's your number one?

[Paige]

Dating red flag if he wants to date me. I just.

[Hannah]

I have so many. It's like, why do you even pick one? What a lovely girl's lunch.

[Paige]

Crisp.

[Hannah]

Thank you for listening to this segment of Giggly Squad, sponsored by Buffalo Wild

[Paige]

Wings and Marsh Madness is coming up, which means it's about to be so fun to go to B Dubs and get the pick six. It's two entrees, two sides, two drinks for $19.99. That's less than $20. It. We did the math.

[Hannah]

Exactly. Less than $20.

[Paige]

So grab your plus one, grab your bestie and go. Prices may be higher in select states. See web or app for details. But also, men can cook too. And Uber can totally cook too. Car. Figure it out. So anyway, I thought this documentary, inside the Manosphere was going to be this like, huge cult of men hating women, which it is. But he meets these guys and in it you get to see. It was like three of these, like, top, top male manosphere influencers who were, like, connected to Andrew Tate in a way.

[Hannah]

Like, how old?

[Paige]

So the first one is really young. He's like 22. He's. He's British.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

He is so scared of his mom, who, by the way, raised him. Single mom, took a private school, like, had multiple jobs. He basically realized that when he says crazy online, like, rage bait, rage bait, he gets famous. So you're talking to this guy and you're realizing he says, like, only fan models are disgusting. Like, and he's. He's saying how men need to be a type of way and all this stuff, but as you're talking to him, you realize he's just saying for clout. He literally goes, I'm just doing it for clout. The problem is these young boys see him on the street and they're like, you're awesome. Meanwhile, he's hanging out with these only fans girls who he's talking about. But then they're there, and he interviews only fans girls, and they're like, I'm just here because I'm making good money. Like, I don't give a about him. Yeah, I don't give a about this. So they're all kind of in it together. But there's that guy who does this crazy podcast. I forget his name, but you've seen it where he brings only fans girls, and he asked them like, like, what's your body count? And then, like, tells them they're pieces

[Hannah]

of is that's the guy that, like, he talks so bad about women and he's married to a woman who, like, has two baby daddies. And he says that that's, like the worst thing you can ever do. And it's like, but that's a different one.

[Paige]

But there's two.

[Hannah]

They're all the same.

[Paige]

So he. He brings these only fan girls on, and I'm like, why are these girls going on when it's just a setup to embarrass them? And then I realize they're going on and they're just rolling their eyes because the men who are watching then sign up for their OnlyFans accounts. They're promoting their only fans. And then these men are like, you're pieces of shit. Whatever. And the girls are like, yeah, whatever. I don't care. I'm making money off this.

[Hannah]

Your email and put your email in.

[Paige]

Yeah. All these guys are like, I would never. They're so angry at OnlyFans girls. And I think it's because they realize these girls are making more money than them.

[Hannah]

Even if they made an only fans, it's never going to gross the same amount. Because women aren't like. Women aren't like, going, no, because our women like going on and watching only fans guys. No, I think so. Porn is free, you freak.

[Paige]

Literally, just go on the Internet messaging her. She has a manager messaging you in her OnlyFans accounts, you fucking idiot. Yeah, so I digress. This guy, she just starts interviewing him, and he's. The guy's like, I can have, like, another wife if I want. I want multiple wives. And he's like, have you told your girlfriend this? And he's like, yeah, and he's like, can we talk to her? And he's like, oh. And he starts freaking out, brings out the girl. And the British guy's like, are you okay with him having multiple wives? And she's like, no. And the guy starts to panic because, like, he's getting exposed that, like, he's just lying through his teeth of, like, the kind of guy he wants to be.

[Hannah]

It's so easy to diagnose them. Like, I'm not even a therapist and I could diagnose you. Like, I had a boyfriend one time in his 30s, well into his 30s, this man talked about getting bullied in middle school every other day. I was like, at some point, dude, move on.

[Paige]

But he bring these girls on the pot and he just tells them they're worthless and no one wants to be with them. And then he says, what kind of guy do you want to be with? And the girl's like, I want him to be over 6ft and make over 300k. And he puts it in some, like, made up algorithm. And he's like, that's two. That's 0.2% of men on the planet. You'll never get that. Like, it's this crazy thing. But then I realized it's all for clout and views. These men don't actually think that. So then he tells them, I don't want you to record my girlfriend anymore. She ends up breaking up with him, obviously, because she's. She said to the camera, she goes, yeah, there's him in front of the camera. But then there's who he really is. So he starts being like, fuck, I'm getting exposed. So there's a positive where I'm like, okay, these guys don't actually think all these horrible things about women, but they're con artists and taking advantage of the dumb. Or just young men that don't know what to do and are, like, being trained by the algorithm. But these men have to realize these are con men. They're taking your money. Andrew Tate makes everyone sign up for a course of, like, how to be an Alpha man man.

[Hannah]

And it's like, that is so embarrassing.

[Paige]

But also, when you hear bald, when you hear him talk, you're like, I'm so scared right now. And also all these manosphere men arrested for sex. No, he's. It's like, disgusting.

[Hannah]

What are you even talking about, by the way?

[Paige]

I not to brag. I have a brother. I'm an athlete. I spent a lot of time with a lot of very testosterone men. Yeah, I've Never seen men who were more obsessed with talking about only fans models. All these men do is talk about onlyfans models. Like, that's the only women they know. Yeah.

[Hannah]

And also, like, and it's like, you've never met them.

[Paige]

You've never met them also. You're just so mad. These only fans girls don't need you. But they're like obsessed.

[Hannah]

How many fans, how many episodes is this?

[Paige]

It's I believe, two or three.

[Hannah]

Do you think they're obsessed with onlyfans because, like, and porn stars didn't get this. Well, I'm sure they got so much hate. But like, before social media, I'm saying because it was known that like, if you were a porn star, then you were basically getting abused. Like, we're the only fans. Girls can control their subscription money, like their bank account.

[Paige]

Unless they're run by male managers who like, form these only fans agencies. Wait, I feel one of the guys runs an only fans agency. But he talks bad about. I know, but he talks bad about only fans.

[Hannah]

That's not an agent. That's a modern day. Like, I met him.

[Paige]

I met a red pill guy once. I didn't know what red pill was at the time and I asked him what his type was and one of the first things he said was, they can't do only fans. I'm like, no one brought up only fans. Why are you bringing up only fans?

[Hannah]

Also like, the percentage of women that do do only fans compared to like how many women are alive is like very small.

[Paige]

Also, like, then stop meeting onlyfans girls. Like, why are all your friends only fans and you're dating an onlyfans model. It's a sense of control where they hate when women have sex with a lot of guys. I think one because it means that we can compare your dick to other dicks. Men hate that.

[Hannah]

Yeah, they do.

[Paige]

They hate that you're like, like have seen. Yeah, they like you being them being the first one and only one.

[Hannah]

They also want to feel like some type of elite. Like, only I got to have sex with her.

[Paige]

Well, that's not to get deep, but it goes back to like. Like, why do guys talk about like 18 and 19 year olds and stuff? Yeah, it's because they can manipulate them.

[Hannah]

Did you see the Netflix show Age of Attraction?

[Paige]

I couldn't click it just because Hannah,

[Hannah]

I couldn't even get through the first episode. I wanted to be like, what we learned here today is age matter. Like, here's the thing, if you're in your third, like, I Think it's. I think you go through very different phases in your life. Your 20s is insanely different than your 30s.

[Paige]

Your brain's not fully formed, which is

[Hannah]

very different from your 40s. If you're a 35 year old woman and you meet a 45 year old man. Beautiful, gorgeous, love it.

[Paige]

Snort it.

[Hannah]

You guys are on the same page. If you're a 25 year old girl and you're dating even 10 years older, like I think back that too. I'm close. Closer to the age that my boyfriend was than I am 226. Like when I was 26, I dated someone 36. If you're a 36 year old man and you are interested in someone under 30, it's because you know that no girls your age would ever deal with you. They know how dumb you are. They know that, like you couldn't figure it out. And that's why you have to go impress. Like.

[Paige]

I just had such an epiphany. When I was 25, I dated a guy who was 35, insane. And I like, he was the shit.

[Hannah]

I thought he was like, yeah, you think he's.

[Paige]

I thought he was amazing. But I knew after like a year, I started having panic attacks totally. Because I knew that when I dated this guy.

[Hannah]

Goal weight, let me tell you, never been skinny. Goal.

[Paige]

Wait. And he was like, I'll like, I'll marry you. By the way. I had no job, I had no idea what I wanted to do. And he was like, perfect. This girl's lost and confused. Yeah. And in my head I was like, I don't know why he's picking me, but I don't feel good about myself around him. But he wants to be with me. It didn't make any sense. Thank God my body had the wherewithal to be like, this isn't safe. Get out. I did write an article once for Elle about zaddies. So I basically was like, look, I met my husband when I was 30. He was 44. This is why I think it's working out so far. But I basically said there's no power dynamic between us. Yeah, I'm financially independent. I know what my career is. I've gone to therapy. He doesn't have any power over me. We are very equal when you're 25, 26, and your brain isn't fully formed and you're with a guy who's financially powered over you. I don't like the position that puts

[Hannah]

girls in period pods over.

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[Paige]

So make sure the power dynamic is even okay.

[Hannah]

So I was coming to LA and I, like, last minute panicked that I didn't have any outfits. So I ordered a bunch of stuff from Revolve. I got one of the cutest, like, leather jackets. It's like, very structured and, like, almost like an ivory color. And I'm obsessed with it. But the fact that Revolve ships so quickly that, like, I knew I was gonna have it before I had to leave. And it totally eased, like, my panic of, like, I have no outfits as

[Paige]

a Type B girl. The amount of times Revolve has saved my life. Like, I'll do panic orders, like, get five things, hope something fits. And the shipping and returns are so easy. They get delivered in two days. No other place is like, that consistent and that easy. And then returning it. I'm bad at returning things. They make it so, so easy. And then I don't feel all this pressure when I'm shopping.

[Hannah]

Yeah, give me a return label that gets me going.

[Paige]

And I love a curation. And I feel like, okay, I'm going on vacation. I go to Revolve's vacation recommendations and I see what the girls are buying, what people recommend. I love their curated stuff of what all the brands I should wear.

[Hannah]

You don't have to go through like a thousand pages of clothes. They basically, like, broke it up for you for exactly what you're looking for. We love organization. Also, they just launched their own label, which is so amazing. It's called Revolve la and it's just, like, chic. It's cool, it's modern, it's elevated.

[Paige]

When you're going to a dinner or an event where there's photos, it's a brand to watch. For sure. I'm definitely going to buy some. Yeah. I also got, like, random skin care from them and I'll get sunglasses from them. They have fun accessories. And I. I recently got these really cute sunglasses that fit my face perfectly and it made me feel so confident. Cool.

[Hannah]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

I'm obsessed with the New tropi boba bowls from Tropical Smoothie Cafe.

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[Hannah]

It's great to say. It's so fun.

[Paige]

So fun. I literally tropi boba say that five times fast. They're juicy, they're tropical and they're limited time. There's a mango choppy boba bowl which is mango flavored popping boba, which is so good and it's very tropical. Makes you feel like you're on an island.

[Hannah]

And then they also have a berry one.

[Paige]

I mean, have it for breakfast, have it for dessert, have it midday, have it for linner, have it for brunch.

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[Paige]

They're also topped with the so delicious dairy free cocoa whip, which is great for me because dairy doesn't always agree with me. If you can read between the lines and there's fresh fruit, crunchy toppings. There's every texture.

[Hannah]

You want crunchy topping. When I have something like.

[Paige]

That's why it's like a soup without a crouton. What am I supposed to do with that?

[Hannah]

A soup without a. Yes.

[Paige]

Right.

[Hannah]

Pop into Tropical Smoothie Cafe and try the new trappy boba bowls before they're gone. They're only here for a limited time,

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[Hannah]

boba bowl at Tropical Smoothie Cafe and eat some good.

[Paige]

Eat some good.

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

It's so interesting that it's just so normalized that like if a guy is 36 and he's like, yeah, she's 28, that's like the perfect age. Okay, what about the other, what about the 36 year old women? Why do you feel like you're too good for women your age?

[Paige]

I'll tell you one thing, it's not beauty because when I was 22, I was ugly. I'm the best looking, I'm the best looking I've ever looked. I just want to say that right

[Hannah]

now, our generation with a spray tan

[Paige]

right now,

[Hannah]

like she's in her.

[Paige]

But these men see 21 year old girls and they go, she's not gonna clock my.

[Hannah]

Yeah, she's not gonna clock my shit.

[Paige]

We're in your 30s a mile away. You're like, now, yeah. No, I'm not getting out of bed for this. Also, we're not going on a yacht. No, I'm not going to your party where I have to be up all night. Girls in their 30s are like, I'm too tired. Yeah, I'm not going on your orgy. I'm not having an orgy. The third guy, he's this like older man. He pulls up in a Lamborghini and he's like, but this is not what my life is about. It's about being a good, honest person. It's not about the flesh and the glamour. But he's wearing like a three piece suit in Miami. It's like 90 degrees. And he basically is like, I cheat on my wife but she's not allowed to cheat on me.

[Hannah]

Perfect.

[Paige]

And all this stuff. And he's one of the top guys. When Andrew Tate is did his like multi level marketing scheme, there's like several guys that got on early and did well off of it. So it's classic. Like, see, that guy did well. Why can't you do well? And it shows these other guys who are big fans of him, this guy has no job and he's being told not to take a nine to five because that's like the Matrix. That's like the system that like holds you down. So he's living in a car and just paying for Andrew Tate's ebooks. What? Because. Because it's a multi level marketing scheme. So these men think like, I just have to. And they're, they're like, I have no value. I have to gain value. I have to be strong. I can't let women whatever. And they're just hurting themselves.

[Hannah]

Do you want to know the worst part about this is the fact that they're catering to all these like young Gen Z men. That in like 15 years everyone's going to be like, where?

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[Hannah]

Why didn't their moms raise them? But at some point it's going to get blamed on us.

[Paige]

Also, these are the men that eventually are going to run our country. God forbid we get a woman.

[Hannah]

God forbid, God forbid, God forbid a woman goes anywhere near.

[Paige]

This is so overdone, but there was a really funny tick tock where a guy was like, you know, men love to start wars, but if women were president, none of the countries would be talking to each other. Just be quiet and calm. Wait, that's like, we don't talk to. We don't talk to.

[Hannah]

Sorry, I don't talk to Russia.

[Paige]

Okay, I saw her. I know what she's about.

[Hannah]

She knows that we've met before.

[Paige]

I don't forgive, I don't forget.

[Hannah]

She acted like she didn't know me. I'm like, you saw me at the UN meeting.

[Paige]

Sorry, you're not in my group chat anymore. And if you talk to Russia, I swear to God, I'll never talk to you again. If I see you with Russia, I swear to God there's going to be a problem. By problem, I mean I'm just never going to talk to. Going to block you.

[Hannah]

Wait. I was getting into a fight with someone the other day about just like men versus women, whatever. And he said to me, he was like, okay, well who's fighting in all the wars? Men or women? Like, who's protecting and all? And I was like, you mean the war that all the men started? Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, why would we go fight? We're not involved.

[Paige]

Yeah, this is my fight. This is not my fight. That you started over your oil for

[Hannah]

your big cybertruck, not my war.

[Paige]

Don't even have a driver's license. Barely. I don't need gas for my car.

[Hannah]

Do cybertrucks take gas or. No?

[Paige]

They're like, oh, they might be electric, but again, I did, again, the president's against electric vehicles, so I'm not getting into this right now.

[Hannah]

I also think they're so.

[Paige]

Well, I've never.

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Scary.

[Paige]

I've never seen a cybertruck with a family in it. I'm just going to say that it's always just one. I feel like a four year old jumping. No, it's just one alone 60 year old dude. And I'm like, I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy.

[Hannah]

That's so true. I've never seen my neighbors, never seen a happy family, and I've never seen a four year old jump out of a cybertruck.

[Paige]

Never even seen a cute dog. Never seen a Labrador retriever just head out of a cybertruck having the time of his life. No, it's some dark, sinister energy in that cybertruck.

[Hannah]

Did you see Lily Allen performed and did you see like her dress?

[Paige]

No.

[Hannah]

Okay. She wore this dress to perform and it looks like it almost like looked like a flag, but so it's like it wraps her and then she has someone like holding it, like pulling it like taut so she's like turning and it's like unfolding. Honestly, it was an art, like piece. Truly And I was, like, looking at the comments and, like, looking at people saying, like, what is the dress? It. She made a dress of all of the receipts from her ex, of all the things he would buy other women. She wore it on stage and she, like, unraveled and was, like, singing. And you could see, like, all. Then, like, if you zoom in, you can tell it's like a receipt.

[Paige]

If Lily Allen doesn't win a Grammy next year, I'm gonna be really mad. I think it's the best album of the year. Also, I rarely read comments, but I. Someone was mad at me because they basically were like, you said that Charlie XX inspired Lily Allen didn't mean it like that. I think everyone. I don't even know what I said either, but I think everyone, like, gets inspired by things going on. But, yes, Lily Allen's that girl. She's been doing it forever. And I think she should win the Grammy, like, for sure.

[Hannah]

I just thought it was so genius. Also, he. I think he has, like, a new show out or something, and she's just, like, staying on his neck.

[Paige]

So, long story short, with the manosphere, it turned out being less about, like, oh, there's this culture where every man hates woman. It's more, hey, there's, like, men that realize that they can monetize dumb men by saying rage bait about women so that they can blame other things for why you're not doing well in life.

[Hannah]

Yeah, it's brainwashing.

[Paige]

I do have to say everyone, they're really mad about, like, toxic masculinity. Masculine is not toxic. The opposite of toxic masculinity is not being weak. It's not being toxic. Be a good, strong, masculine man. Don't hate on women. If you want to sleep with a man, sleep with a man.

[Hannah]

I love it.

[Paige]

Don't. You don't to hate women.

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Right.

[Paige]

Just because that's your urge.

[Hannah]

Also, a lot of them do just want to be gay.

[Paige]

Yes.

[Hannah]

And, like, we would let them. Like, I don't know why they're. Why they're being mean to us. We're a safe space.

[Paige]

Before you download Andrew Tate's ebook, download Grindr and just see if that releases anything.

[Hannah]

The amount of time you get two margaritas in me. I'll ask anyone's boyfriend. I've asked my own. I've been like, you could tell me. I won't tell anyone.

[Paige]

I wonder how many girls have had that moment with another cult documentary, which I just started. It's. It's slow, but it's. It's Dark. It's on apple, which is new. A lot of them aren't on apple. It's called Twisted yoga.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Paige]

And again, it always starts with a girl being like, I'm spiritual. I think there's. I'm trying to find my purpose in the world. And these yoga classes are helping me with, like, spirituality. Like, it starts honest and sweet, and the next thing you know, she's in Romania in a. A building that's locked up, and they're doing tantric sex poses and drinking each other's pee. So anyway, it starts about love and peace and butterflies. And then it gets sinister. Notice the similarity between all these is when you're vulnerable, if someone said, drink this person's pee.

[Hannah]

Now, if someone said, put it on

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your skin,

[Paige]

Very different. You said, how much?

[Hannah]

I'd say, what kind? Like, where exactly could I do it on my neck?

[Paige]

How hydrated do I have to be for this? But this thing, they don't just sit you down and go drink pee. It's this long process where it's like getting connected to your. Your femininity and connected with others. And then next thing you know, like,

[Hannah]

two years later, and I'm not trying to drink a uti. That is so vile.

[Paige]

Cults are scary. So I'm only one episode in which I think people like because they hate when I tell them what happens in the doc. But all I documentary, it's history. Guys, they're like, ted Bundy got caught.

[Hannah]

Wait, that's so true. But Z, I'm an enabler because I like when you tell me the ending. Because then I'm like, checked off my list. I don't even have to go watch it. No, the friend told me.

[Paige]

Mad at me. They're like. Like, both towers went down. Sorry, that was dark. That was dark. I'm a New Yorker. I'm allowed to say that.

[Hannah]

We were allowed to.

[Paige]

You guys weren't even there. We saw it. Also, remember when I said the girl messaged me who works for the Celsius or whatever, the census? Yeah. That was also wrong.

[Hannah]

Cool.

[Paige]

She's actually a historian for the Smithsonian.

[Hannah]

Okay, you really pked it up.

[Paige]

But also, the Gigglers are so. The Gigglers are like.

[Hannah]

He's actually a beekeeper in Argentina. Tina, this.

[Paige]

The Gigglers have the most amazing jobs. Historian. For the first of all, what is the Smithsonian? It sounds important.

[Hannah]

The Smithsonian is a museum. The Smithsonian, It's.

[Paige]

But, like, what's in the Smithsonian? Like the Mona Lisa.

[Hannah]

No, the Smithsonian is like George Washington. No, the Smithsonian is like anything oh, like books?

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

No.

[Hannah]

Okay, like. Like. Like the NASA stuff. Hold. Now I have to look it up.

[Paige]

Like the planet night at the museum.

[Hannah]

No paintings. It's air and space. That's what I meant.

[Paige]

Is the world's largest research complex featuring 21 museums. This is AI so this could be completely wrong. And then this is about misinformation. Oh, it has the Airspace museum, but also has museum. Whatever. It's just. It's research. It's real.

[Hannah]

Other Smithsonian locations, New York.

[Paige]

Oh, it's all of them. It's American history. National. You guys, we learned so much on this pod.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

So much.

[Hannah]

I thought it was just air and space.

[Paige]

So anyway, the people who listen to this podcast research history. So if that makes you feel better.

[Hannah]

I'm so proud of them. I'm literally so proud of them.

[Paige]

How are you?

[Hannah]

I love that people listen to us

[Paige]

because they're like, oh, I need it. Really?

[Hannah]

I need to listen to two so many idiots so that I can just laugh.

[Paige]

So much facts and high pressure. I just need people making no sense. I need two people interrupting each other for an hour.

[Hannah]

Yeah, let's do something page coded because you went.

[Paige]

I went off.

[Hannah]

So my Tresma commercial came out the other day.

[Paige]

Wait a second. One. You already had one?

[Hannah]

Yeah, this was my new one.

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This is my.

[Hannah]

This was my new, like, Christian Siriano Devil wears Prada Vibe 1. But when we. The day we were filmed. This is so girly. The day we were filming, it, it was just. I brought my parents. Like, it was just, like, the girliest shoot ever.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

It was.

[Hannah]

It was like, we're doing hair, we're doing makeup, and, like, Vogue was there and just all these different things.

[Paige]

I've never done a shoe like that. Continue.

[Hannah]

And so we're in the, like, dressing room. We had, like, a break. I don't know. It was like, lunch. And my assistant was like, should I chop my hair off? And we were like, oh, my God, do it. Like, chop your hair off. So she literally had the longest hair ever. She's, like, very cool. Gen Z chops it into a bob during the shoot. Yeah, I'm a really easy boss.

[Paige]

Wait. I'm like, stop production. My assistant needs to cut a bob.

[Hannah]

I'm like, go get a facial, babe. Like, what are you doing here? You know, like, do whatever you want.

[Paige]

You're like, actually, can we stop? I don't like that girl's hairdo. Can you change it? And you're like, she's not even on set. And you're like, I don't like it.

[Hannah]

I'm like, so she cuts her hair in the middle of the shoot. We're obsessed. We love her bob.

[Paige]

How long did that take?

[Hannah]

Like, 10 minutes. Mitchell's just like, in true bob fashion, everyone gets a bob. And then they're like, what if I chopped a little more off? Okay. My assistant now chopped up to here. Literal pixie.

[Paige]

Does she look good?

[Hannah]

Hannah. I'm obsessed. And I'm like, hannah's gonna be so mad at me because it took. It took one other redhead to be like, what about a pixie cut? I can't stop looking at pictures of Lily.

[Paige]

I'll start crying if you do it.

[Sponsor Voice (Victoria's Secret / Quince / Velvet Caviar / Rebel / McDonald's)]

Wait.

[Hannah]

What if right before I went to Italy, I just chopped all my hair off?

[Paige]

Well, I personally want you at your wedding. Start like this, okay? Then you chop the pixie party the rest of the night.

[Hannah]

How much can I make about me? I know.

[Paige]

You're like, it's already gonna be too

[Hannah]

much in the middle of this wedding. I will perform.

[Paige]

Or for the honeymoon, maybe when you go to somewhere really hot, I just chop it. You chop it. Can I just say I've been wrong in my life before? I want to prep that.

[Hannah]

Not many times.

[Paige]

Not many times, but a lot of time. People perceive it wrong because it's ahead of its time, and I say it not in the right way. However, people thought you may joke, but

[Hannah]

you never play, period.

[Paige]

So when I first threw it into the ether that you should get a pixie.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

The Internet was a gasp. They said, hannah hates Paige. Hannah's a bad friend. Hannah's horrible. She's sabotaging her. And I said, sorry, I have a vision that you guys can't see.

[Hannah]

Yeah, sorry that you believe in my face.

[Paige]

You guys clearly don't. No good bone structure.

[Hannah]

Now I'm thinking all those people don't believe in my face.

[Paige]

The fact that you don't think, like. Because my thing is, I just see Audrey Hepburn.

[Hannah]

Thank you.

[Paige]

I see Audrey Hepburn. And when your face is so fucking chiseled and snatched like yours, like when you pull your. Your hair back, people lose their mind because they've never seen so many. So many angles of a cheekbone. This is why you pull my hair back.

[Hannah]

Everyone goes, no, I love when you pull your hair back.

[Paige]

Stop it.

[Hannah]

You know I do.

[Paige]

Stop it.

[Hannah]

You're doing a ponytail this week.

[Paige]

No, I'm really stressed out.

[Hannah]

You've been stressed about it for literally a full seven days. You're like, I think I have to do a ponytail.

[Paige]

It's like the dentist's office. I'm like, I have to do a ponytail on Tuesday.

[Hannah]

You're like, the dress I need, need to do a ponytail. And then you do always tell, tell me when you're doing a ponytail as if you just got results from the doctor. You're like, okay. And I have comedy.

[Paige]

I have to get my wisdom teeth out. I'm like, I have to get a ponytail Tuesday.

[Hannah]

You're never going to believe this. I have herpes.

[Paige]

When people do slick backs and they have a flat forehead and a wider head on top, it's, it looks amazing. I have a pointy head. So when they do it like you can't even see see it like you can't. It just, it exposes too much gigglers, you know?

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

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[Hannah]

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[Paige]

Anyway, so you're. You're pondering a pixie.

[Hannah]

Not like Demi Moore pixie.

[Paige]

Like not shaven.

[Hannah]

No, no. Which, but not even like. I mean, like, okay, I see a cute side band. The way my assistant chopped it is like, it literally stops. I'm gonna try and like, it literally stops, like right here. Like right at my ear. That's not a good representation.

[Paige]

But I also see it with like a little side bang. Like a.

[Hannah]

Well, I would go full side part forever.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, I wouldn't be able to do it down the middle because that would look insane, I feel like. But I would do just drastic side part all the time.

[Paige]

You're literally my Barbie doll. I want to cut you up and I want to take a little flame. I want to take a Sharpie and I just walk in.

[Hannah]

I'm hanging from something. It's like she left me here. The way you treated your toys and the way I probably treated my toys.

[Paige]

So you know that millennial thing where it's like a fairy that you pull it and it spins and then goes into the air? I was breaking shit. I was like, how far can we get this to go? I also was obsessed with like little Horse.

[Hannah]

Like, not My Little Pony.

[Paige]

My Little Pony. I liked My Little Pony. I think I did wreckage to my little Ponies.

[Hannah]

See, I was a realist even as a child. I was like, fairies aren't real. Can't Fly ponies. Not that small. Get out of my face. I hated Barbies.

[Paige]

I hated babies. I wasn't like playing with a baby. I'm like, I'm not a mother.

[Hannah]

I had four kids and if my mom didn't put them in car seats, I was like, and they'll die. You're a horrible mom. They'll die.

[Paige]

You're literally Reba McIntyre, a working girl who works new jobs and never speaking.

[Hannah]

Remember the last episode we talked about cigarettes? And actually when I was a child, because my grandma smoked so many cigarettes one day I literally sat down and said, I have to have a cigarette. And my mom, like, looked around and people were like, oh, my God. She was like, she doesn't mean it. She's obviously four. She's not. Not sitting down to have a cigarette. I was like, no, I need one, mom. Yeah, I actually need one. And my grandma had bought me candy once. So I ripped one out of my purse. My Barbie purse, obviously, because what else is in my purse but candy? Cigarettes. And I sat on the sidewalk and I literally fake puffed this cigarette. My mom was like, she's not coming over anymore.

[Paige]

I remember my mom got me in a dress with a matching purse and a matching hat.

[Hannah]

That'd be my favorite.

[Paige]

Fuming. She was like, hold this for one second. Got the photo. And then I think I took the hat. It was like in a pull pool somewhere. And then I like threw everything was. And then I was rolling around.

[Hannah]

Whenever there was a matching accessory, I thought, genius.

[Paige]

I refused to wear hats from the second I came out of the womb. They put a little knit hat on me and I got my fingers in it and I started. It was crazy.

[Hannah]

I loved wearing hats.

[Paige]

Cleaned my apartment the other day.

[Hannah]

Not to brag because it rained the other day. Yeah, that's what I did.

[Paige]

Within about an hour, I messed it up again. And it reminded me of another nickname I had. It's not. Not Quadzilla. They used to call me Hurricane Hannah because I would come into a place and I would just, like, wreck it. And it's at the point where at first I was mad at myself and now I'm like, you have a skill.

[Hannah]

I like to describe it as like,

[Paige]

I throw my shoes off.

[Hannah]

I'm just mistaken that, like, you could have possibly taken ballet as a child. Like, that's how I think of it. I'm like, hand Santa walks into a place. And like, even the way you walk, like. Like you're. You don't mean to heavy footed. No, but you're stomping in.

[Paige]

No. I used to like, when I was at a tennis academy, I live with like six other kids and they would be like, why do you walk so heavy?

[Hannah]

So heavy.

[Paige]

And I was like, sorry, my ass is fat.

[Hannah]

Like, I'm literally pure wedding in. I'm like, I haven't even touched the ground yet. I actually think you would have been phenomenal at gymnastics.

[Paige]

No, I. I eat too much. Oh yeah. And I'm too tall. I'm five, seven. And my torso. I've thought about it, but I mean, yeah, the emotional abuse is similar to tennis.

[Hannah]

I lowkey feel like doing gymnastics makes them short. Like, no, because.

[Paige]

Because stunted from all the working out.

[Hannah]

When I was in middle school, I really wanted to do gymnastics because I really wanted to be a cheerleader.

[Paige]

You want to wear the unitard?

[Hannah]

And then I said to my mom, okay, but it stunts their growth. I can't.

[Paige]

And you wanted to be a model

[Hannah]

and I wanted to have long legs. So I literally quit gymnastics.

[Paige]

I love that you had a vision for yourself from a young age. You're like, this doesn't work with my 10 year plan.

[Hannah]

I've always.

[Paige]

Where'd you get that information that stuns your growth?

[Hannah]

I think I heard it somewhere and I never forgot it. The same way. Like Demi. Demi more used to wash her hair with Evian water. I never forgot it. I read one time somewhere, if you ended your shower in cold water, your hair would be shiny.

[Paige]

Like, I missed.

[Hannah]

I would get random, random facts and then I would just like live by them.

[Paige]

I miss problematic magazines in the 90s.

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[Hannah]

Like, what a simple time orgasm matter.

[Paige]

Like, how do you put the right hand job when he's mad at you?

[Hannah]

Like, at this point I'm like, I'm not sure how to lose that fat

[Paige]

that's everywhere that makes everyone hate you.

[Hannah]

I lose the last £15 so you can hang with your friends.

[Paige]

People were asking Zara Larson. Yeah. Who? I love how she has such a

[Hannah]

good body and she's like on tour performing every night.

[Paige]

I liked. She basically was like, I don't. I just laugh a lot. Which is very giggly code. And I love. But then I'm also like, she's dancing six hours a day. Yeah. She's like, sometimes I could go at my own jokes.

[Hannah]

She's profusely sweating up there, like doing crunches.

[Paige]

Also, she did admit, like, like abs are genetic. Like, I don't have abs right now, but genetically I do.

[Hannah]

I'm almost five months. No UTI write that Us Weekly. But the other day I felt just like a little like I was like, could that be? And I literally said to myself, no, it's not.

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You're being crazy.

[Hannah]

Go chug of water. But do you want to know what I think? And I've had a couple girls DM me, so I've been trying to like, track and like, see the other day I drank not one, not two, but three full Coca Colas throughout the day.

[Paige]

I'd watch what you. I swear to God, everyone's about to get diabetes because of you. What are you gonna say right now? What are you gonna say right now?

[Hannah]

I think the sugar, like, gives me the feeling like I'm getting one, but I'm not actually getting one.

[Paige]

Oh, so you're saying it was bad that you chugged three Cokes.

[Hannah]

100.

[Paige]

Okay. I thought you were saying, if you don't want UTIs, chug three.

[Hannah]

And the only reason I chugged three Cokes. And in my defense, they were all in glass bottles.

[Paige]

A free country, right?

[Hannah]

First of all, you have free will.

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It's my free will.

[Hannah]

I'm an adult.

[Paige]

I bought your going off. Like, she partied one.

[Hannah]

I went off, it was a Friday night. I was like, you know what? I'm drinking all the glass Coca Colas in the house.

[Paige]

You're like, give me another one, bartender.

[Hannah]

You know those, like, sometimes you get those cards at like bars where it's like you've been cut off. Like, just leave now. You just like, give me one at dinner. You're like, enough. The Coca Cola. Sometimes you just need one. You know, I was having chips and dip. What was I going to do?

[Paige]

Have milk with it? You're not a psych.

[Hannah]

There are certain things you eat you have to drink. Soda, chips and dip, pizza, Chinese food. You have. I have to have a ginger ale when I have Chinese food.

[Paige]

My, like, the reason I'm delusional is cuz when I drink ginger ale, I think I'm healthy. Healthy.

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Well, it is.

[Paige]

I'm like, I need good vegetable stomach.

[Hannah]

It's good for your stomach.

[Paige]

I like, look at everyone around me. I'm like, sorry, I'm in a health kick right now.

[Hannah]

If I'm having any type of sandwich, I must must have an iced tea. Like a turkey sandwich. I have to have an iced tea.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

If I'm eating Mexican, sometimes I have to have a lemonade.

[Paige]

Speaking of drinking and peeing the tick tock really made me laugh recently. I mean, this morning, this comedian, Hilty Bowen, she was talking about men's and women's restrooms. So obviously I'm like, I'm in. What's this gonna say? And she goes, when men built restrooms.

[Hannah]

I saw this.

[Paige]

I love that we have the same algorithm. It's so funny. She goes, when men built women's restrooms, they were like, okay, we'll buy a toilet and I guess we'll put walls next to it and enclose it. We'll put another one next to it, another one next to it, another one next to it. Good. Okay. For the men's room, they're like a split toilet wall next to it and close it. Then I guess we should do some urinals. And what if we just did no wall, no doors. No doors.

[Hannah]

And what if we just put them

[Paige]

all next to each other and just

[Hannah]

let them know it's low key gay. Like, it's actually. And like, the guys were in the comments being like, we stare straight. I'm like, do you? And it's also like, why even tempt?

[Paige]

Also imagine going to the woman's bathroom and, like, peeing next to a woman without a wall. Like, that's crazy intimate.

[Hannah]

Okay. But I actually think it makes more sense for, like, the women's room to not have walls than it does the men's room.

[Paige]

Because we're not like, flinging out a. Another.

[Hannah]

Well, we're just more intimate with each other as a whole.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, that's the only time once they leave a sports team or a locker room, that's it. They're never undressing in front of each other ever again.

[Paige]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Like, when else are they.

[Paige]

What's it called when you have something coming out of your body, like a limb? Yeah. Like we're not pulling out an outer extremity. Yeah. Like where men are, like, pulling it out. Yeah. Men like peeing next to each other. For sure.

[Hannah]

Yeah, for sure.

[Paige]

Is. It's the strangest thing because all they have to do is put a little wall, like a tiny wall.

[Hannah]

Some have, like, little short walls that are like, next to it. But a lot of them don't like tiled walls.

[Paige]

A lot of them don't.

[Hannah]

It's also interesting because it's like, oh, so you can aim. Oh, that's so interesting. Because when we're at home, it's all over the place, but, oh, you actually can aim on a perfect, like, little

[Paige]

circle when we're at home. Someone had a water balloon fight. The Manosphere documentary. The guy goes, well, look around me. Men invented everything. That was his, like, statement of, like, why men are superior.

[Hannah]

We invented people. Okay? And top that, we literally invented you. What did you do? Like, you came from someone's vagina.

[Paige]

And then this woman did a list of, like, all the things that women invented, which was actually crazy. Like, it was like wi fi a woman invented. Like, it was like, all these things. But then it got me thinking of how many things men invented that, like, their wife told them about.

[Hannah]

Here's another thing that actually really. That, like, reminds me of it.

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There's.

[Hannah]

I feel like there's so many women that will be like, okay, whatever, I don't need to get married. I'll have a child. Either I'll adopt a child or I'll get a. A sperm donor. Do you ever hear of stories, Mr. Let's preserve my Legacy? Do you ever hear of stories of straight men in their. Straight men? Because I'm. I'm discounting the gay men because there's a lot of gay men that have children. Straight men that have a kid on their own that's not forced upon them in some. In some weird situation. No. Do men ever go and say, I need a surrogate because I want a child.

[Paige]

And we would never, never force a man to have a child when he doesn't want one.

[Hannah]

No, we don't.

[Paige]

If anything, we want controlling. I'm not controlling. Men's bodies. Crazy.

[Hannah]

Isn't that so interesting? And another thing I thought about now, mind you, I'm a joint deep, maybe a joint and a half. And I'm like, why doesn't anyone ever talk about cats getting ticks? Like, there's so many stray cats and they're out on the streets, and you never hear about them getting ticks.

[Paige]

Ticks.

[Hannah]

But you let your golden retriever out one time, and you're like, my golden retriever has Lyme disease. And he literally gave it to the whole house. So I looked it up. I was like, why doesn't anyone talk about cats getting ticks when there's way more. I feel like there's way more string. And Google said because cats have such an intense grooming process, let every couple of hours, they wouldn't even let the tick at least attached to them, they have already gotten it off.

[Paige]

I mean, I'm like, and another reason that women. The only time a cat will get fleas, when, like, they're out, like, scared and fending for themselves, and you have to save them. Well, this reminds me of when we were fostering dogs, which I love to do, but I don't know about dogs. And it was 9pm and I had to take the dog for a walk. And I was like, this is annoying. It's pitch black. I'm alone, I'm scared. I'm like, this dog's not going to defend me if someone has a treat. So no, literally, my algorithm is literally so dog eating. It's a bunch of videos.

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[Hannah]

I can't wait. I'm literally so excited.

[Paige]

It's a bunch of videos of the people. Okay, let me calm down. They put.

[Hannah]

I hate you so much.

[Paige]

It's gonna be so not funny now. Cause I laugh too much. But they put like wet food in a bowl.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And they get kidnappers to come in and as they're putting the wet food in, the kidnappers take them and fake beat them up. And the dog goes up and looks. And this is like 10 different dogs in the same situation. And they look and then the dog

[Hannah]

keeps eating, like doesn't care.

[Paige]

And they're like pretending to like cut, like stab them. And the dog just keeps eating the wet food. The dog finishes, looks back, keeps trying to get the wet food.

[Hannah]

And that's men. That's literally men.

[Paige]

Oh my God. I got light headed from Lovey's way.

[Hannah]

Daphne would have clawed someone's eyes out

[Paige]

when I was walking this dog at 9pm it's pitch black. I'm scared, it's cold. I'm like, this is not a long term life to live. Butter's inside just waiting for me, cozy in the bed. And I'm like, sorry, I have to walk this wild animal outside in the dark. And then the dog start is just like around in the grass. I don't know what he's doing and I'm just like letting him have fun because that's what they do. I'm like, I hope you had fun. I'm freezing. I walk back and the dog smells horrible. And I realized the dog was rolling around in other dog's poop.

[Hannah]

Poop. Oh.

[Paige]

And DEZ was like, like, how did you not see that happening? I was like, what? In any logical world would a dog see another dog's poop? No, it's poop. And go, let's roll around in this. And he's like, that's what dogs do. And I'm like, that's insane. And then watching him took like forever. It was. The whole night was ruined.

[Hannah]

No, honestly, that is. I wasn't like, so, oh my God, I'm getting a cat. Because I hate dogs. I was getting a dog and then I was like, like, what am I saying? I'm not getting up in the cold dead of winter and taking a dog out ever.

[Paige]

Also, I have a friend who. Their dog's, like, ruining their sex life because every time they have sex, the dog freaks out and starts barking. This is the last thing I'm saying about dogs and cats. This is why I love cats. When there's a thunderstorm, cats are like, cool.

[Hannah]

That's my ancestor.

[Paige]

When I tell you the thunderstorm, dogs freak out. They're barking. They think they're under attack. They're under attack. They're scared. They're like, if I'm uncomfortable, I'm gonna make everyone uncomfortable. There was a thunderstorm this morning. When I tell you. Butter was mesmerized. Butter sat there and was looking at gorgeous. She was like, this is a piece of art. This is Michelangelo. She's watching the lightning. She's looking at all the wet people outside, and she's just taking in, like, an observational comic because she has the

[Hannah]

wherewithal to know it's outside and she's inside where the dogs are, like, they're coming to attack. It's like. Like, have a treat. Shut up. No, we didn't mean to go this hard on the men.

[Paige]

And the dogs started this pod, and I was like, we've been talking too bad about men. Let's have a light bun.

[Hannah]

So you brought up the. Just the worst documentary of all time. I started this pod. I was like, guys, I'm in a raincoat. It's gonna be such a fun day.

[Paige]

Let's end with something nice.

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[Paige]

Fashion.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige]

I'm obsessed with this trend. Do you like it? The whole. Wrong shirt with track pants. So you wear track pants with, like, a work shirt. Love it's. Do you have any advice for pulling it off correctly? Because I feel like this is something that I might wear, and people get, like, upset by.

[Hannah]

Well, it's like, kind of the same thing when people are like, you're wearing an outfit and then just do, like, the weirdest shoes, which I love. I would just say it's something really masculine and then something really feminine.

[Paige]

Love, Love.

[Hannah]

So, like, a ruffly, like, frilly shirt, and then it's just like, an Adidas track pants out.

[Paige]

Yes.

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[Hannah]

Very cute.

[Paige]

Okay, cool. I feel like I'm leaning towards that for spring. Anyway, guys, look forward to our outfits coming out on Monday. Paige hasn't picked hers yet. She's very stressed. I picked mine, but I might.

[Hannah]

This is coming out. This will already be out. But my Daphne Lemmy collab, which you want to know what needs a whole podcast episode. So catch that on Friday, we'll talk about it.

[Paige]

Don't miss it. Bye.

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[Hannah]

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