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Hannah
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Paige
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Jacqueline
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Jacqueline
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Hannah
Sup, gigglers. Gary, fix the WI fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, my gigalotti?
Jacqueline
Yes, right. Yes.
Hannah
I was in a yoga class.
Jacqueline
Okay.
Hannah
The girl was a giggler and she was like, by the way, you should say giggalati. And I was like, you're so helpful. Thank you. Writing it down. Now wait a bit.
Jacqueline
Like, she was like, page coded.
Hannah
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you're the giglatte. This is what we are. Better than a culture giggle. It is better than a cult because.
Jacqueline
It sounds like an Italian Illuminati family. An Italian cult. Like five family adjacent. It's like the girl started something well.
Hannah
The gigalatti is like when you see someone say no notes, and you just look at her and she's like, oh, she's in the gigalati.
Jacqueline
Did you just get out of the pool or the shower?
Hannah
I just got out of the shower. I played tennis today.
Jacqueline
I was gonna be so, so jealous.
Hannah
I look like a wet rat.
Jacqueline
No, I think. I think you're stunning in all forms. I was just like, oh, my God, are you, like, swimming? Cuz I would be so jealous right now.
Hannah
I'm actually feeling quite raw because I killed the whole family of my nails.
Jacqueline
Wow. Like, you peeled it all off it.
Hannah
I had a breakdown and I. No, I peeled it and like, you know when you peel like one layer of your actual nail bed. So Jacqueline would actually, like, block me if she saw this.
Jacqueline
But it hurt.
Hannah
It kind of hurt. Yeah, it hurt.
Jacqueline
Yeah. Yeah.
Hannah
It wasn't pleasurable. Right? My. I haven't had short nails in so long that like, I went to pet butter and I saw my own hand and scared myself. I was like, whose hand is that?
Jacqueline
No, it's like anything. It's like tanning. It's like getting botox. It's body dysmorphia. But I don't have nails. I'm like, she's a boy.
Hannah
I was like, who's petting my cat? But I kind of am into like, no nail summer. Because I'm active. No, we're running, we're swimming, we're pretending to garden.
Jacqueline
I was just telling one of my friends, like, again, bringing you up in conversation, like someone ever brings up anything. Also, like, athletic in conversation. I'm like, I surely can't, but my friend. And I was just telling someone recently. I was like, no, I don't think you're grasping, like, the gravity of what I'm saying to you. Hannah and I are complete opposites. She's on teams in the summer. She's getting up, she's playing tennis, she's running, she's doing laps. She. I was like, her sports.
Hannah
I love sports games.
Jacqueline
I think she married her husband so that they would have like a doubles free for any sport.
Hannah
Our third date was a volleyball tournament where we got.
Jacqueline
I mentioned that. I mentioned that.
Hannah
And it was like a six hour volleyball tournament. I'm like, fuck my weekend. Let's beat up little kids.
Jacqueline
Yeah. So no, I. So I get that you're. You're active in the summer.
Hannah
Yeah. So this was just for all my activities.
Jacqueline
Sees how this is how we're different. I'm trying to plan When Jacqueline's coming next, because I have to be in Italy for a certain amount of weeks, and I'm like, what is the ideal time so that my nails will last?
Hannah
But I know we're different, which is why I enjoy. Like, I'm currently shopping for your Italy trip. I sent you a Chloe bag today. You didn't respond. It was vintage. You didn't like it. You didn't.
Jacqueline
I didn't love it. I didn't love it.
Hannah
You didn't. This is. Paige doesn't respond when she doesn't like something, but when she. When she likes it, she writes love.
Jacqueline
Cute.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
Love. Oh, love.
Hannah
Oh, love.
Jacqueline
Okay. Speaking of love.
Hannah
Yes.
Jacqueline
The pod was coming out on a Wednesday this week, which, we apologize. Like, logistics, semantics. We don't. It's a whole thing.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
But now the gigglers are well aware that Daphne has launched, which has been. I really. I don't even have words. I had to. I was filming, like, a little video haul of, like, all the Daphne clothes, and I had to keep stopping and restarting. I was like, I've never been so nervous to talk about something. Usually if I'm filming something, I'm like, love it. Hate it. It's so cute. Could put it with this.
Hannah
Usually when I talk, I don't care.
Jacqueline
I don't.
Hannah
Usually when I talk, I don't know what I'm saying, and I'm not going to think about what I said.
Jacqueline
No. Like, anytime I do something, they're like, here are the notes. I'm like, you'll get what I say. I don't. We can't plan these things.
Hannah
Like, suddenly you don't know how to form a sentence because you're like, nothing can explain this. How I want to.
Jacqueline
I'm immediately. Lea Michele. I'm like, oh, I don't read, so please don't give me a script or any type of notes. Like, I say it off the cuff.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
But when it's my own brand, I'm like, what. What are the emotions I want the girls to feel? And I have been working on Daphne for. I mean, how long now? Like, two solid.
Hannah
Can we backtrack a little? Like, how did this come to be? Can we tell the girls how an entrepreneur is. Is made?
Jacqueline
I got the idea.
Hannah
How is the salami made?
Jacqueline
I got the idea for Daphne. I would say, like, three years ago, where I was like, I've decided that what I want to do is make paj. I want to make loungewear. I want it to be functional. There are so many different Things I wanted it to be. So it was really like, I incubated on it. Like, I didn't just make a random move. Like, I truly thought out, wrote things out. All of the things you just said, incubated. I mean, we're in a wework. I get the idea. And I really. It was really important to me to get, like, the exact right people to do what I certainly didn't know how to do. I knew I had the creative, I knew I had the idea, and I knew I had exact stuff specifications of what I wanted each item to be. And the one thing I'll say throughout this entire process, when you're doing something creative, I feel like there is a point where you're like, I hate this. I want to change everything. I've decided against it. Like, in whatever facet of, like, that you're working in. There was not one moment throughout Daphne that I was like, I hate X, Y, or Z. Like, I loved everything. I was like. I went to bed every night being like, I'm really happy with this decision. Whether it was like, the certain piping or like, a different, like, pink dye.
Hannah
Like, wait, what's up? What's a piping?
Jacqueline
Like, like, on our pointelle pants, I have, like, piping on the sides. But I wanted it to be flattering, but. But I wanted it to look athletic but still like pajamas. So, like, there were just certain little meticulous things that I wanted that were small decisions, but every single one, I made very thoughtfully. Yes, the name. This is, like, cosmic, because in no situation did I have the name Daphne. Even on my list of cat names. When I got Daphne, it just, like, came to me in the moment.
Hannah
Yeah, well, she's. You look at her and you're like, okay, that's a Daphne.
Jacqueline
I was like, that's a. Yeah, that's a Daphne. And so when it came to naming my brand, I mean, I went back and forth with so many different things, wrote them out, loved it one week, changed it the next, and then I actually didn't even have the idea of Daphne. Someone on my team said, what about Daphne? And right when I heard it, I was like, you go.
Hannah
And that's what I pay you for.
Jacqueline
And that. No, literally. And that's why you go see what she just did.
Hannah
Is anyone else going to work here?
Jacqueline
And that is why you freaking collaborate. I hate to say that it was a man's idea, but not going in the about us section.
Hannah
Delete that. We cannot have that in the history of our brand.
Jacqueline
In her story, I Don't.
Hannah
In her story. Not in her story. Also, he was. A woman spoke through him. A woman spoke through him. But I also have to say, part of being smart and part of running a business is knowing what you don't know. And I think you are really good at that. Where, like, you're not. Your ego's not going to take over nobody. You're not going to be like, oh, I'm. I'm controlling everything. You're like, I want. And that's why I think we work well together, because we've never once stepped on each other's toes, like, in that way.
Jacqueline
Best idea wins. Like, what?
Hannah
Period. Sorry. My ego's not my amigo.
Jacqueline
Funniest joke wins.
Hannah
Funniest joke wins. Sorry. I was. I was letting you have the floor. Wait. We've never paused.
Jacqueline
We've never.
Hannah
We've never stopped to be like. No, you speak.
Jacqueline
Take a moment. Have a pause.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
Okay. Here's one thing. One other thing I want to say.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
Throughout the design portion of Daphne and, like, coming up with the pieces, the one constant has always been, I wanted to make this T shirt that was, like, the ultimate T shirt. And nothing has was ever named. Like, I didn't have names for anything. But we always referred to this T shirt as the Hannah T. And it is like, I honestly want to go back in emails because it was like, one of my first ideas. Like, I have to have this Hannah T. And what gave me the idea was, truly, during COVID Hannah wore the same T shirt, like, every single day. Like, the Brooklyn T shirt. And you just loved it. And I was like, I love that you love something.
Hannah
So it's an emotional support T shirt. Like, you know, it's going to feel right. It's like a sensory thing.
Jacqueline
And so I was, like, thinking about, what are people's favorite T shirts and why do they love them? And a lot of them, I feel like, are people's college T shirts. It has, like, nostalgia. It's the perfect. Like, it falls perfectly. Honestly, it's big enough. It might not have even been yours. That's how, like, big it is.
Hannah
Just all these different boyfriend's cousins.
Jacqueline
Yes. Like, you got it from a random place. I like to spray tan in mine, but I don't care if it gets dirty. Like, it's just like, that character. It's perfect for everything. And so, like, I wanted to make the Hannah T shirt, and I. And I'm obsessed. It's the best.
Hannah
My one thing is if you really wanted it to be, like, perfectly My tea, you would have put a spaghetti stain on it, but I feel like that wouldn't have been your aesthetic. So you can make your own spaghetti.
Jacqueline
Okay? So I wanna, I wanna tell you something because I want you to be proud of me. I went to the meeting and I said, hey, here's an idea and I'm throwing it out there. Okay. And I'd be remiss if I didn't throw the idea out there. You guys might love it, you might hate it, but I'm going to put it in the atmosphere.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
And they said, and I quote, it doesn't really align perfectly with our brand. And wait, I love, I love how you go.
Hannah
I wanted it. The team rejected it. The team said, between me and you, you go, I fought my hardest.
Jacqueline
And like, but the powers that be, best idea wins, you know? And that day I didn't have the best idea.
Hannah
I. I do think we can use this in our day to day life legal jargon where if someone, you don't agree with someone, but you don't want to, like, take credit for it, you go. I spoke to the team and the powers that be rejected it. Powers that be. And when they ask be, like, I don't know the boss's names. It's honestly like that.
Jacqueline
It's not in my jurisdiction and I don't want to overstep.
Hannah
Yes. And you know what? I literally respect that. Because if you look at Giggly squad, that's us having power. That's what happens when we have power.
Jacqueline
It's not good. They actually said it's. It feels more Giggly Squad. I go, and we'll save it for merch. Thank you.
Hannah
Well, this is weird. I know people make fun of being like, my brand. My brand. But as you expand into different ventures, like, there are differences of like, what attracts different people and like, staying true to yourself. And I'm just so excited for you to have a place for you to like, put all your creativity and your taste.
Jacqueline
Can I tell you something else? And like, not me bringing up a mental health moment.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
Working on Daphne, like the past two years, basically in secret. Like, I haven't, like, no one really knows that I was working on Daphne. And it has been such an. Not an, I don't even want to say an emotional roller coaster because it's not even that dramatic. It has truly been so much fun to be so creative with things and be like, oh, I want to change that. Or like, would this be cool? Or like, how cute. Like, let's see, like a model Wearing it and, like, whatever. That I haven't even thought that, like, I then have to give it to people to be like, and here is my art. And of course, like, I love working on it and I want it to be, like, one of my full time things. But I. And I don't want to say I don't care if people don't like it, but I love it so much and, like, everything to me is so perfect that, like, if people don't, like, like, I don't even want to say that. It's just like, I have enough love for it that it's. I feel like it's gonna do well because I'm obsessed with it.
Hannah
You described it perfectly where it's like, it's not about the result. You're not doing it to, like, make it. I mean, look, you hope you make money and you hope it's successful, and.
Jacqueline
I hope everyone loves it.
Hannah
But it's literally like, that's how I felt with my Netflix special when I completed it. That was the joy. Like, I remember sending it into Netflix after we finished editing it and being like, I'm proud of it. And that was the hardest thing because I'm the hardest person to impress.
Jacqueline
Like, like, you know how you sometimes feel like, oh, my God, I don't have a hobby. Like, if someone asks, like, what are your hobbies? It's like, okay, like, laying on the couch. This has truly been, like, my hobby.
Hannah
It's your passion project.
Jacqueline
Yeah. For the past two years. That it's almost like, oh, if someone said they didn't like my needle point, I'd be like, I don't care. It's my freaking hobby.
Hannah
That's what I said to Des when he said, it looks stupid. I said, this is my pride and joy, and I don't do this for other people.
Jacqueline
I have been thinking, how did the green flower go that night?
Hannah
You know, I finished it. I'll. I'll take a picture and post on the giggly account.
Jacqueline
No, you must put it in the news.
Hannah
And for people who are asking about my needlepoint, I actually got it on Amazon for, like, $12. But now I'm going to, I think, invest in one that's, like, maybe better because I don't know, we'll see. But I've been getting a lot of DMS asking about it. It really, like, struck a chord with the Giggler community. I got a lot of messages about.
Jacqueline
Each year we get older and older, and so.
Hannah
And it's a hobby that involves stabbing that doesn't hurt anyone seems healthy to me.
Jacqueline
It really does.
Hannah
You need to put your anger somewhere, especially if you're Italian. One thing like does our wise does said to me because especially in as an entrepreneur, we have a lot of highs and lows. And also, even if you have a regular job, like you're chasing getting a raise, you're chasing doing a product. Like you have so many things you chase and then once you get it, you're human. So you're always like, what's the next thing? And DEZ always said you have to make it about the work. Are you loving the process of what you're doing? Cuz if you're not enjoying the process, even when you get what you wanted, it feels empty. So I'm just, I'm so happy that you, like, put it creatively. We live in a time that's a lot about, like showing off. I love how I just go, we live in a time. And you start nodding. You didn't even know what I was going to say. You were like, yes, preach, preach.
Jacqueline
Amen.
Hannah
That's what I've been saying. That's. That's that meme with the woman in the back. Exactly, Exactly. We live in a time because where's the lie? We do. We do. Where is the lie? We live in that time. And everyone's posting like what they're doing all the time and showing off what they're doing, what they've been doing, what they're going to do. Let's bring back Moving in Silence.
Jacqueline
Let's do it.
Hannah
Let's bring back, like, do something for yourself. And like, great. Like you're going to, you know, get articles and awards and whatever, but like, awards. I don't know.
Jacqueline
The first ever Jammy Awards. I love that.
Hannah
I'm trying to win an Emmy for a Jimmy, but I just think the fact that you had something that you were working on and not constantly putting it in people's faces and now you are going to promote it, which as you should. But like, there's something to be said of like having your own stuff that you're working on for yourself that you enjoy.
Jacqueline
No, it's. It really is so true. Like, it's obviously like I've wanted to post it and I'm. But really, because I'm just like, guys, I feel like you're gonna love it too. Okay, so go to Daphne the label dot com. You can sign up. Follow us at. At Daphne for Instagram and then our tick tock is at shop Daphne, my vibe for the Instagram is like curated, beautiful and then our TikTok, I really want it to be like unhinged and I want like Daphne the cat to be at the forefront because she truly deserves it. Obviously, I'm going to give a little something extra to my gigglers. So if you're in the Giggly Squad newsletter, you will be getting free shipping. But make sure you go to It's Daphne the Label.com Sign up and then you'll be on our email list. And then we launch next Tuesday. So it's June 10th is our actual launch date where you can buy clothes. But make sure you're signing up because you'll get all the emails, you'll get the alerts and all of this stuff. Okay, one more note because I just feel like I have to say it on the pod. Yeah, there are these pajama pants, there are poplin pajama pants and I made them specifically for the summer of like, you know when you wake up and you're like, I want to go outside, but I'm like, I'm in my pajamas and like other people are dressed and it's just you're in that weird in between. Between it's like 11:00am and you're like.
Hannah
You wake up, it's 5:00pm yeah.
Jacqueline
And you're like, it could go either way. It's the perfect, just like summer morning pant. You could have a bathing suit on under it. You could have nothing on under it. You could have slept in it, you could have put it on in the morning. Like it's just, you could have it on with a kitten heel or a.
Hannah
Croc, depending on where you sit.
Jacqueline
Depending on where you. Depending on whose team you're on. You could wear that too.
Hannah
Also, sometimes I want to wear pants, but I don't want to wear like heavy sweatpants and I don't want to wear shorts because I just don't want to be running around shorts because sometimes there's bugs. This is very specific.
Jacqueline
I hate to say it, but I, I mean, I did cater to Gen Z a little. I said, what if we did a longer boxer? You know, like, what if we did a low rise, something that the girls can wear with their loafers? You know, they love doing that.
Hannah
Well, speaking of Gen Z, I told Grace, like, I was like bragging. I was like, do you know Paige has the Hannah T. Like she named it after me. And she was like, oh my God, did you model it? And I was like, oh, my God, I must have missed the email. She goes, you didn't Model the shirt. And I go, wait, that's crazy.
Jacqueline
No.
Hannah
Okay, Truly.
Jacqueline
Just wait one thing back to, like, doing something for yourself, and it just, like, being so fun. I've been cosplaying, like, this whole time with Daphne. Like, the only time I've been getting dressed up is to, like, go to, like, a Daphne meeting. Because me and Josephine, like, pretend it's Devil Wears Prada. We're just obsessed with.
Hannah
What was I saying about the models?
Jacqueline
So the day of the photo shoot, we actually did it in my apartment. The photographer was so talented and, like, the creative director. Like, it truly didn't even look like my apartment. Having real models, like, in your home, modeling your brand. Like, I had to leave the room because I almost started crying at one point. I was just like, this is the best day of my life. And I didn't put it even on Instagram.
Hannah
One more question. This is obviously the beginning of hopefully, a very long journey for you.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
What is something that surprised you about the process that you did not anticipate?
Jacqueline
Oh, my gosh. That is a great question.
Hannah
I'm a journalist. What is something.
Jacqueline
Yeah. What is something that surprise me? Yeah, that's the name of long finger.
Hannah
And she puts it on her nose. That's when she's really thinking.
Jacqueline
Okay. Small things that you would think would be easier to change are not as easy to change. And everything is like, a rigmarole. Like, for example, should one of the ties on the pants, should it be detachable? Should it not be detachable? Like, should the buttons be functional or not be functional? Should they be hidden? Like, there's so many little things. And then, like, I wanted to change the buttons because they were, like, 1cm, I thought, too big. And so then we have to wait for, like, shipping on these different buttons. Like, there's a lot of nuanced little things that you don't think about.
Hannah
Yeah.
Jacqueline
A process. But truly, that's why I feel like I did keep it a secret for so long was because I really did like doing it. And I'm like, this is. There's no rush in this. Like, this is fun for me, and I like this. So, like, if we have to wait for these buttons, I want to be really excited about these freaking buttons. And so let's wait. And so I really didn't want to, like, force anything out too soon, and I feel like that is why it's taken me a little bit. But I'm so, like, I'm obsessed with it.
Hannah
I'm so excited. Congratulations, Daphne.
Jacqueline
Doesn't even know she does. You think she feels it?
Hannah
Wait, can we discuss Daphne's Duncan commercial?
Paige
She's a star.
Hannah
That was so good and so funny, and immediately I'm getting messages. Why isn't butter in something?
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
And I said, look, butter is difficult to work with.
Jacqueline
Butter can be thought.
Hannah
It's gone around the industry. Like, you know, you have one bad moment, like, Butter ran away when someone walked with her. Butter is a diva. Butter's people are saying she's a diva, which means she's just a strong woman who speaks her mind. I showed her. I said, you could. This is what you could be doing.
Jacqueline
Wait. I showed Daphne. I was like, you're in a commercial. Do you want to see it? She stared for a little bit. I was like, you're gorgeous.
Hannah
She's like, who's that? That's me. Butter saw herself in the mirror the other day and got scared and fluffed up and tried to fight herself.
Jacqueline
That's what we're dealing with, the mental health over here. It's not great.
Hannah
We're fighting our own demon. But then someone. The Giggly Squad memes account, which is so funny, was like, can we do a I can't Believe It's Not Butter promo?
Jacqueline
Oh, my God.
Hannah
And tagged them and posted a photo. Butter where she looked. I mean, she's beautiful. She looks like Cindy Crawford. Like, it's not about her looks. It's, like, the personality.
Jacqueline
Should we just, like, make our own fake commercials? If we were friends when we were, like, 13, that's what we would have done. We would have made our own.
Hannah
We would have had so much fun on our MacBooks. Do you remember the imovie? We would have literally been making music videos. We would have been like, oh, my God.
Jacqueline
We would have made, like, skits and stuff.
Hannah
We were content creators back in the day.
Jacqueline
We would have been.
Hannah
So anyway, I tagged. So you think it's not butter, or. I think that's what it's called. And I think they, like. They, like, liked it. And I was like, okay, okay. Embarrassing.
Jacqueline
Oh, man.
Hannah
Well, okay, well, we're gonna go with. What's the Irish butter?
Jacqueline
Irish Butter.
Hannah
Kerrygold. Butter is half Irish.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
Because of dez. So look at me just trying to hawk Hawker around.
Jacqueline
There's nothing like good freaking butter.
Hannah
Can I recommend Kerrygold's? It's my favorite. So as you know, I love Lululemon. These pants are sturdy, like these yoga pants. I've had a pair of Lululemons for 15 years. That's longer than Any relationship I've ever had.
Jacqueline
And you need a sturdy pant. As someone who's been called. What was your nickname?
Hannah
Quadzilla.
Jacqueline
No, you need a sturdy legging.
Hannah
It needs to hold it all in.
Jacqueline
It needs to hold it in.
Hannah
And I'm so excited because they have the new align no line pant, which means, like, you know, I do get sensitive with, like, lining. Like, I was really weird with socks. If the line is, like, off on my sock, the day's ruined. So I love that there's no lines on it. And it's just, like, so cute and bodacious. But not all yoga pants are created equal.
Jacqueline
No, they're not. This is why I like the align no line pant. Because when I buy a pair of leggings, I want to be able to wear those leggings not only to, like, work out, but I also want to wear them in outfits. And when you have, like, the seams on the side, you can't put that with a riding boot.
Hannah
You can't wear that with a blazer. No.
Jacqueline
It looks like a workout legging. It's distracting, and I want them multifunctional.
Hannah
Yes. No. That's so smart. It also has this famous Nulu fabric that's, like, buttery, soft, weightless. I hate when the texture is too tight and I feel like a sausage and I'm like, or it's too thick. I love high quality fabric that's not going to, like, be weird after I wash it. I mean, I've had every bad liking experience. Because, look, I'll buy a legging. I'll try it out, and you're like, this is not. Well.
Jacqueline
I live in a legging.
Hannah
What are we gonna do, wear jeans in our own home? Are we farmers? I also love their wide waistband. It's like, there's no digging, there's no rolling. It just supports you in the right places. And I really, like right now. Tell me if I'm wrong. I love, like, a bell bottom. Like, I like when the bottom goes out a little.
Jacqueline
Great for traveling.
Hannah
It's traveling, it's trendy. And you could wear. Yeah, boots, heels, whatever you want with it. And life is too short to wear uncomfy pants. I'm not doing it. And these pants are made for summer chaos and comfort. You guys know I'm a chaos goblin at times, but sometimes I want to be cute and comfortable.
Jacqueline
I agree. I'm usually pretty cute and comfortable.
Hannah
You? Yeah, throughout the day, you're pretty consistent.
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Hannah
Do you remember when it was like people thought it was crazy when girls were wearing Lululemon not to work out? Everyone was like, what is going on in the world?
Jacqueline
Well, they created the whole new term ath.
Hannah
Sorry. Athleisure was what the world is meant to do. Sorry, girls are working.
Jacqueline
Yeah. Sorry that we have bank accounts now.
Hannah
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Hannah
Did you see that I went to the Liberty game?
Paige
I did.
Jacqueline
Oh, let's speak on it. Because I got a video of you which was just like, it looked like I hired a private detective to follow you places and be like, tell me who she talks to.
Hannah
I got a tag from you and it's a video of me. And I go, where did you get this? No, it was so love that you have people. Like, you have people everywhere. But it's true, like, wherever you go, I need to know what's going on too. Like, we just.
Jacqueline
I mean, if you're out in public. Yeah, of course.
Hannah
We keep eyes. We protect and serve.
Jacqueline
So their mascot, Adorable. It gives me, like, it gives me Minnie Mouse vibes.
Hannah
The sassiest mascot. She would dance behind the security guard, like, just with everyone. Such a giggler. She does, like, crazy, like, amazing dance moves. So one thing I want to say about the Liberty, because it's women playing and the crowd that it brings, it's literally all not for the male gaze.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
And I can't explain the feeling, but it was just like gays and girls.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
And when it was time for the dancers to come out, I forgot what their name was, but it was a group of old women in sparkly dresses who go out and dance. And the crowd sold out. Lost their mind. Sad.
Jacqueline
They were.
Hannah
And they were loving. Like, I didn't feel that kind of like, joy. I feel like sometimes when you go to a. A male basketball game. Yeah. Like, everything's like, yeah. What do the guys want to see? Where, like, you just don't feel like it's for you sometimes.
Jacqueline
Yeah. The only thing I can relate this to is like an all girls high school gym class.
Hannah
Yes, exactly. Except the girls are all, like, incredibly athletic, Incredible athletes.
Jacqueline
Like, people don't know what it's like to be inside of an all girls high school gym class when people are.
Hannah
The way I would have dominated, like, the way, like, blocking people shots and Shit. Like, I would walk in and be like, move. I'm here.
Jacqueline
The fact that I was, like, considered good. No, you know, I'm gonna give myself more credit.
Hannah
I'm being, like, just begging the shit out of people.
Jacqueline
Well, that's what we played. We played capture the flag dodgeball.
Paige
Catholic school.
Jacqueline
No, we don't have to go by public school regulation. Pelt someone right in the fucking head.
Hannah
Yes. Blame Jesus. It was Jesus.
Jacqueline
No, they got crazy.
Hannah
Yeah, that would get really crazy. So the thing with the Liberty game, what was crazy about it is that my dad is the biggest Liberty fan in the world.
Jacqueline
Wait. Things I didn't know. I needed more of you and your dad miked up at sporting events. That's a whole series I would watch.
Hannah
Can we make you up? And I was like, this is my dream. This is my dream. Like, am I just. Do I just talk for no reason? No, I need to be recorded, and I need attention. Yeah. So my dad is obsessed with Brianna Stewart. She's, like, one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Like, I think he does love her more than me, but I'm working on that in therapy.
Jacqueline
So, Hannah, him being like, come on, you could get out there with them. Like, that is cute.
Hannah
That was so cute.
Jacqueline
Well, he's like, come on.
Hannah
He's so used to coaching me that I feel like he's like, get out there. Let me yell at you.
Jacqueline
That was the equivalent of my dad being like, you could have married Prince Harry.
Hannah
That is so hard. Come on, get out.
Jacqueline
You could be a princess.
Hannah
My dad did coach me with basketball, and I was really good, except I had, like. Like, I have small fingers. Like, I'm never gonna palm a basketball. Like, you could palm a basketball. We get there, and they have this thing called the Crown Club, which is like, Jay Z is part of all the Barclays center stuff. So you go to the Crown Club first. And look, I don't want to brag, but I'm kind of in with the power lesbian community of New York.
Jacqueline
Okay.
Hannah
Like, I've.
Jacqueline
Of New York.
Hannah
Of New York City. There's a. There's. It goes by state. And in New York, I'm up there when I tell you, Wait, this is.
Jacqueline
Such a Sex in the City episode. Like, when Charlotte, like, hangs out with all the lesbians, and, like, they're like, are you gonna be a lesbian? And she's like, I can. They're like, then you buzz off.
Hannah
So I'm close friends with Renee Stubbs, who is a grand slam winner. And, like, she's Kind of one of these social butterflies who's friends with everyone, the most powerful lesbians in the world. So she texts me. Obviously, she's at the Liberty game, because that's where the. The power lesbians congregate. And it's me and my dad. So we get to the table, and it's just, like, all power lesbians. Like, one girl, like, ran a vagina microbiome company, obviously telling my dad about it. The other one, There's Sophia Bush.
Jacqueline
Someone here at utis. Like, the woman that invented tampons was sitting there.
Hannah
Ashlyn Harris, who's the incredible soccer player, was there. So we sit down, and my dad's just there. And I got to be like, guys, this is my dad. And I think at first they were like, no. Like, this is illegal.
Jacqueline
Like, this is. And they were like, and where's your other dad? Because this is not acceptable.
Hannah
Exactly. But when they realize that he was, like, a real fucking huge fan, like, he was there for the game. They fucking loved him. And they're. They're taught. Like, they're gossiping next. You know, my dad is a power lesbian. Like, he's in it with them. And then behind him, I see Sue Bird, who is, like, his favorite basketball player of all time and one of mine. So I look at him, I say, dad, Sue Birds, behind you. He starts, like, gasping for air. And all the lesbians are like, what's going on? I'm like, he's. He loves Super. So Renee's like, yeah, she's my friend. I'm gonna go get her. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, you know, I hate that. I get very, like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I want to don't.
Jacqueline
You don't bother, Sue Bird.
Hannah
I don't bother. Super. She's eating. Like, she's literally eating. That's, like, rule number one of rules. She gets up. Sue Bird comes walking over, and I know that Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe have a podcast. Everyone go listen to it. And I. They listen to our podcast like, they're gigglers. Oh, my God. I knew I, like, had an in. Okay, so I.
Jacqueline
This is sports podcast.
Hannah
This is sports podcast. So I said, sue, I'm obsessed. I want to introduce you to my dad. I look over to my dad. His eyes are. Well, he's crying when I tell you I haven't seen my dad cry ever.
Jacqueline
No, really?
Hannah
Not. Not. He's. No, not really.
Jacqueline
See, I. My dad is an emotional guy.
Hannah
No, my dad doesn't cry. My dad doesn't cry. My dad's like, I'm gonna go play golf for eight hours. That's how he processes his emotions. So I look over, and he's literally like. Can't get the words to, like, when Starstruck was happening to him. But then I see my dad cry. So then I start getting emotional. So super.
Jacqueline
It's just like. Then you start bringing up your dead grandpa.
Hannah
It's like.
Jacqueline
It's such.
Hannah
Well, I was like, Sue. Like, he was. I started talking for him because he's just, like, peeing himself. So I'm like, you know, he's my coach. And, like, he would always say, like, play like Sue Bird.
Jacqueline
People don't talk about that enough. Like, when you get to the age where you're in a situation and you're like, oh, my God, my parents are flailing right now. I have to talk for them. No. In that moment, me at the airport with my parents, I'm like, sorry, they don't speak English. I don't know. They forgot everything they've ever been taught.
Hannah
I'm like, oh, you're not Delta Platinum. Grow up, Gary. So my dad is Luke Ryan. And then me and her just start talking. I think got out some words. We smile, she leaves. And he's like, did I just cry in front of Sue Bird? And I was like, yeah, like, you, the power lesbians are disappointed in you. Like, that wasn't. That wasn't cool. But then he's just having the best time of his life. And we get. We get to our seats, and this is just a side note. I haven't, like, socialized that much in a while. There's so many little things that happen that could, like, ruin your night. I felt like I had a booger. Do you know when you have a. You feel like there's a booger, and then you finally, like, I'm at a fucking basketball game. Like, who knows who could be looking at me? But I'm like, I have to make sure there's not anything. I know.
Jacqueline
And it's, like, kind of itchy. No. I'm like, yes. Itching.
Hannah
And, like, you think it's. It's, like, hanging, and you can't find it.
Jacqueline
And when you have fake nails, you can't, like, feel.
Hannah
No, I. I know. So. So I'm just, like, sticking my finger, and I can't find it. And then, like, talking to Sophia Bush, and she, like, looked at my nose, and I was like, I have a book around my nose. So then for, like, 30 minutes. 30 minutes. Of the game. I'm trying to find where this book.
Jacqueline
You're like, sophia Bush told me that I have a booger.
Hannah
So if you. Bush literally was like, get your shit together next time you talk to me. No side note, Sophia Bush was so nice and fun and. And silly and goofy. Just like everything you want her to.
Jacqueline
Be my dad, I mean, she's Brooke Davis.
Hannah
My dad had no idea who she was. And she's just like, chatty chatting with him. And I go, dad, she's from John Tucker Must Die.
Jacqueline
She's one of the most iconic TV characters of all time.
Hannah
Of all time. He goes up to her after, he goes, you were in. You were in Jack Must Die. And she's like, what are you talking about? She starts laughing. She's like, close enough, close enough. So anyway, we had. I think I got the booger. Like, I never really had that moment of freedom and, like, closure, but, like, I think I was fine. And if. If you guys have the opportunity to go to a WNBA game, go. Is moral of the story. And I messaged Sue Bird, sorry. My dad and I cried when we met you.
Jacqueline
Wait.
Hannah
I love that she hasn't responded yet.
Jacqueline
Wait, how much fun it was.
Hannah
It was a lot of fun. We love a basketball game.
Jacqueline
We really do. I'm like, sportsd out, though, for the moment.
Hannah
Well, baseball season's just getting into.
Jacqueline
I know, I know. But, like, I feel like I can. I can meet up with them in like a month or two. Like, they'll still be at.
Hannah
It's forever when people get upset about a game. I'm like, there's 400 games. Calm down.
Jacqueline
I'm like, it's fine. And I just felt like I had to watch the Knicks because I live in New York and I had to be. You know, I wanted to share, but then what everyone was talking about.
Hannah
I know this is like niche New York, but, like, the Knicks have sucked for so long, which Paige didn't know.
Jacqueline
I didn't know. You know what? And I had. I had a really hot take. I was watching actually, with my brother and his girlfriend, and I said, you know what? The Knicks kind of deserve to lose. The other team was a better team. And I'm. And I'm sorry I'm not a sports broadcaster, but I felt like in that.
Hannah
Moment, no, that's how I get over things. I'm like, we don't deserve this game.
Jacqueline
You know, Indianapolis deserved that game.
Hannah
They. But the Knicks are just. They were torturing us. I'm kind of happy. It's over, like, don't give me hope. I don't need.
Jacqueline
You want to know what next year is their year. They need one more good player.
Hannah
Wait, can I say one more cohesive. We were cohesive.
Jacqueline
We were.
Hannah
Everything you're saying is correct. Everything you're saying correct.
Jacqueline
I have eyes. I can watch a game and have. And have takes.
Hannah
No, you're like my mom, because she, like, never played basketball, but she watches it so much that she literally knows everything. She'll be like, that guy's defense is bad. That guy's not good going on his left. And that guy fouls too much.
Jacqueline
Indianapolis was so in sync. It was like, as if they were playing for 15 years together.
Hannah
They're moving the ball, communicating, literally.
Jacqueline
Their body language is saying everything to each other.
Hannah
It's like watching two relationships and being like, you guys like each other, and you guys, like, something's off. Get someone. You need to add someone new in this relationship.
Jacqueline
They need to add another person.
Hannah
One more thing about the liberty, because it's all girls. Like, when the other team would mess up. Like, normally, if it's like, I'm at a Knicks game, the other team messes up. I'm like, boo, you suck. Yeah, because it was girls, I'm like, I root for women. Like, when another team messed up, I'd.
Jacqueline
Be like, good, try next time. And you're gonna get them next time.
Hannah
Like, I wasn't. I was not gonna yell at another woman. Like, when they missed, I, like, felt bad. I was like, no, she doesn't deserve that. She works so hard to get here. She doesn't deserve that. So I was wait.
Jacqueline
I so get that. That's like, how I feel watching the Olympics. And it's like, any. And it's like, a female, I'm just.
Hannah
Like, but they did so good.
Paige
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Hannah
Anyway, you haven't brought up that I have a new Instagram photo. We've been talking 40 minutes. Like, what kind of friendship is this?
Jacqueline
It's so funny because when you dm. No.
Hannah
Like, no. You are so selfish about yourself. It's always about you. I can't do anything. I can't get attention.
Jacqueline
When you DM'd me and said, like, just to let you know, I changed my Instagram photo. Like, didn't want you to be alarmed. It was like, truly three seconds prior to that when I was reading a previous DM from you, I was like, oh, my God, she changed her Instagram photo. Like, it's such a. It's such a moo. I haven't.
Hannah
Jarring.
Jacqueline
It's jarring. You keep your Instagram photo for more than six months.
Hannah
I did keep it for a long time. So it's. I just feel like everything's different. I'm different now. Like, you guys can start treating me.
Jacqueline
It's like you're in a new era when you change your Instagram profile picture.
Hannah
Yes. I think if you're, like, in a funk before you, like, do something drastic, change your Instagram profile.
Jacqueline
Wait. I feel like you've influenced me, and I feel like I'm, like, needing change.
Hannah
No, I was like, why hasn't she changed it? When last time you changed it, you, of course, changed it to black and white, and it looked just like Des's. And if you guys don't know, does and Paige are the same person. They're literally the same person. I can't explain it. They're both Scorpio kings. And I was like, the two. My two favorite people in my life have the same profile picture.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
What's your new one gonna be? You and Daphne.
Jacqueline
You know, I'm not sure.
Hannah
Yeah. You can't force it. You can't, like, look for it. It has to just.
Jacqueline
It has to come. And I'm. And I'm feeling, though I'm feeling like later in the week it will be different.
Hannah
I think you should do something bright for summer. Okay. Oh, I saw Sunset Boulevard. Sorry, I was busy. I was busy in New York City this week. I saw Sunset Boulevard, the play with Nicole Schozinger.
Jacqueline
Oh, you did that quick. You just said you wanted to go see that.
Hannah
I know. No one wants something. I get it.
Jacqueline
You get it?
Hannah
I want it. I got it.
Jacqueline
Who did you go with?
Hannah
I lived in New York City for so many years, and I never go to Broadway plays. I went with Haley and my mom. The. Okay, you. It's not for you.
Jacqueline
Yep.
Hannah
And I'm not gonna put it on you. It was so creative, her voice. It's crazy to see a pop star that's like, loosen up my buttons, baby. I love her, and I always thought she was talented.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
Some people, like, don't respect pop stars. I do, because I respect women. Her voice was, like, operatic, like, insane. Like, she. She's. She's. She was singing for that Tony.
Jacqueline
Do you know that? She's like the original, like, Wag.
Hannah
Who was she with?
Jacqueline
She was with. No, she was with a Hamilton. Yes.
Hannah
He's not a Formula one. He's the Formula one.
Jacqueline
For years they were together. And fun fact, they were both at.
Paige
The Met Gala this year.
Hannah
So many exes were at the Met Gala.
Jacqueline
We have. Wait. We have not even spoken about our dear, dear, dear, dear friend Haley become Haley, selling her company for a bit.
Hannah
I do have to say, yeah, I had a beautiful moment of like. I feel like that's something you should be. To be jealous of the warmth in my heart when I saw that.
Jacqueline
Yeah, I was like.
Hannah
It was like, one of us won. It was one of us won.
Jacqueline
Did you not feel like one of your friends?
Hannah
A win is a win.
Jacqueline
A win is a win.
Hannah
A win is a win.
Jacqueline
When I said I was like, hell, yeah.
Hannah
I was like, you know what?
Jacqueline
Hell yeah.
Hannah
What the helly?
Jacqueline
Yeah, Haley.
Hannah
I think it's because I know it pissed some people off, which makes. Makes me happy.
Jacqueline
Me too. I was like, oh, my God. The amount of people that have been making just the most insane videos about her saying the worst things, tearing her marriage apart, all the things. And she's like, sorry, I can't hear you. I was busy inking a billion dollar contract.
Hannah
So many people love to talk on women for, like, and calling her gold digger and whatever. And like, yes, Justin is a huge part of her life. But so many celebrities have brands that they don't put the effort in. They don't have the X factor. Let's be honest. Every one copies Hailey Bieber and she uses this shit. And she created amazing team around her. Honestly, it shows, like, there's so many different facets of your life. And if she is. I'm not saying this is true. This is alleged. If Justin is struggling really hard, like, she also has other places in her life where she's getting fulfilled.
Jacqueline
Right.
Hannah
Because your life is not just based on who you're with. That's not gonna bring you happiness. That's not great fill you. So that's huge. And now I kind of feel like even more celebrities are gonna, like, try to put their name on stuff. I don't know. I think it's. Or it's just a big time for building brands. But. But she is unique with, like, what she built. It's great.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
And we don't have to pit women against each other. There's. There's space for rare. There's space for road. There's space for everyone.
Jacqueline
And I love everyone.
Hannah
And we love them too. Vote for us for president.
Jacqueline
And we love them too.
Hannah
And he is a nice man. Savannah, wait. I'm so excited for the episode to drop tonight. Well, it's. It's out already, right?
Jacqueline
It will have been out already. The tennis episode, the Wisconsin episode.
Hannah
So the funniest part about the episode, it actually was the most like reality tv where when I watched it, I.
Jacqueline
Was talking about you behind your back and you didn't know.
Hannah
I didn't. The storyline literally wasn't what I experienced. I thought it was gonna be like this, like. Like adorable, like Hannah play.
Jacqueline
So cute.
Hannah
It was like Paige being like, Hannah tricked me. I don't want to be here.
Jacqueline
I'm having stress.
Hannah
You go, I'm being tortured. I'm held against my will. So that's. If you don't want. If you want to know reality TV works, watch this episode. It would be funny. It would be so funny to do for each episode, two edited episodes. One your edit, One my edit. How I thought the day went vers.
Jacqueline
As a science experiment. We should just take one episode and completely re edit it and show like, what reality tv.
Hannah
Like how I do think we people were commenting, like, obviously we were super busy. If we had more time and maybe we'll do this in the future. I think it would be really fun with confessionals. But, like, we kind of did confessionals throughout, like, just to the camera.
Jacqueline
Next time we film a vlog, I'm going to be in a different head Space. And it's going to be different. I already have so many ideas.
Hannah
Write them down so you don't forget. Yeah. Confessionals would be so fun. Oh, yeah. So Sunset Boulevard. She ends, like, with blood. That's, like, the thing.
Jacqueline
Oh, okay.
Hannah
Takes a bow. So it's, like, kind of gone viral, her bleeding. I love a woman with, like, blood normalizing blood. It's basically me. Every time I try to shave my toes, it just gets everywhere.
Jacqueline
It's like, this just reminded me of it, and I don't know why. And, like, the. I feel like you could tell how I got here because, like, blood, period, whatever. The other day, you know how you're just, like. You're a woman against thongs. It's not for you. You don't. You're only doing it if it's absolutely necessary. And I'll fight it, and you'll fight it. I was wearing a pair of sweatpants in my own home, but I didn't have any underwear on. Like, I just. They were like a. Like, my aloe sweatpants are just, like, big. And so, like, I was just. I'm not going to put any underwear on. I'm in my own house.
Hannah
Whatever.
Jacqueline
So I'm walking around my house because I'm obviously trying to also get my steps in, and I thought to myself, interesting. Is this what it feels like to not wear a thong and to wear granny panties? Because, like, my butt's just, like, out, but, like, together.
Hannah
Honestly, it feels like that, except with a warm hug.
Jacqueline
Okay.
Hannah
Can I tell you, I don't like raw dogging it like that. That's too open.
Jacqueline
Can I tell you something why I think you're diabolical for it? I hate the feeling of walking and feeling my butt cheeks together.
Hannah
Okay.
Jacqueline
I. I feel like I get sweaty, and I'm, like, itchy.
Hannah
When you wear a thong, it doesn't, like, separate. It separates a part of your butt cheek, but then your. The rest of your butts are touching. Right.
Jacqueline
I just felt like my butt was closer together than I'd like.
Hannah
You go, we're cousins, not twins. That's crazy. I also think. I'm gonna be honest. I think I. Maybe I. I have a fat ass.
Jacqueline
And I think when you put a thong, I'm, like.
Hannah
It feels like. I don't know. It makes it, like, bigger.
Jacqueline
How much do you think during the week, we think about each other, but we don't. Like.
Hannah
I'm at the point where, like, everything I hear, see, has to go through. Like, what would Paige think? Which is actually.
Jacqueline
I'm at the part where, like, I feel like we're still in our honeymoon phase, even though we've been together for, like, seven years. I'm still at the bar where, like, I'm looking for ways to bring you up in conversation or, like, see something. I'm like, hannah would love that.
Hannah
We're literally couples.
Jacqueline
Like, you.
Hannah
Can you fall in love deeper over time? Like, love transform.
Jacqueline
Like, our honeymoon phase hasn't, like, gone. Like, it's gonna be like this forever, I think.
Hannah
Oh, my God. Any guy you're with has no chance. I feel so bad for them.
Paige
No, I know.
Jacqueline
It's so just like, man, it's really tough out here.
Hannah
Have you watched Sirens?
Jacqueline
I'm obsessed.
Hannah
See? Like. Like, I can't stop watching, but I, like, don't know if I like it.
Jacqueline
Hannah, it's so good. I feel like at the very end. Have you watched the whole thing?
Hannah
No, I'm like, three episodes in.
Paige
Okay.
Jacqueline
Wait till you get. No.
Hannah
Well, anything Julianne Moore does. I meant she's incredible.
Jacqueline
Perfection.
Hannah
She's incredible. My thing is, Megan Fahey, when you.
Jacqueline
Finish the whole series as a whole, there is a bigger meaning. It's actually so tailored to you because it basically says how multifaceted women are. They're not good or bad. They're not, like, evil or, like, Angel. Like, there's so. And there's. Everything is nuanced. No. Everything's nuanced. No. But you always say women are multifaceted. Don't put me in a box. And they kind of prove throughout the series you can't put any of them in a box.
Hannah
I love a show where, like. Like, yeah. You can't put your finger on the villain. Like, just when you think someone is, you're like, wait. And then you're like, oh, I like that.
Jacqueline
And you like. I love when you see the villain's perspective and you're like, well, yeah, I love Megan Fahey.
Hannah
I think I might have watched the show that she was on that was really famous that everyone watched. What's it called?
Jacqueline
Lotus.
Hannah
White Lotus. A little too recent. Because I'm like, that's the girl from White Lotus, right? Why are they trying to make her look poor?
Jacqueline
She actually has great comedic timing.
Hannah
Great comedic timing.
Jacqueline
She's.
Hannah
I think she's like the it girl right now. Like, she's in everything. She's just so likable.
Jacqueline
Do you want to know what else? She's so beautiful.
Hannah
Yeah, Naturally.
Jacqueline
Naturally.
Hannah
Like, her eyes are crazy.
Jacqueline
I'm like, oh, my God, you don't have any lip filler. Like, you're just such a, like, beautiful face.
Paige
You have such a gorgeous face.
Hannah
She, like, also just seems like, like the girl you'd gravitate towards at a party to talk to.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
Like, she wouldn't be weird.
Jacqueline
I feel like she looks like girl. Like a girl I went to high school with.
Hannah
Yeah, she's. I. Yeah, I love her. Okay, so I'm watching Sirens. I have to highly recommend to you guys the Peewee Herman documentary. I've been waiting this whole time to bring it up. Okay. It's on hbo. Max or Max or what? Did you hear hbo? Max is. Is, like, going backwards.
Jacqueline
I mean, are they. I.
Hannah
Who. Who decided we have to go to Max and now has to be like, actually, never mind.
Jacqueline
It's just like, what's going on in the boardroom there?
Hannah
Talk about bad collaboration.
Jacqueline
Yeah, they're not. Obviously. Best idea doesn't win at hbo. They don't. They don't follow that.
Hannah
That's like, literally telling everyone, like, hey, I go by hand now. And then after like, a week, be like, no, I'm Hannah. And it's like, what?
Jacqueline
It's like, you literally can't give yourself your own nickname.
Hannah
You cannot pick your nickname. And that's literally the second rule.
Jacqueline
And that's what HBO trying to do. They're like, I go by Max.
Hannah
No, you're not. Someone has to give that to you. You can't just act like you have a cool nickname. I didn't know anything about Pee Wee Herman. Do you?
Jacqueline
Not really.
Hannah
It's kind of off brand for us. Also, it was the 80s, which we don't remember.
Jacqueline
We weren't born.
Hannah
If anything, I was like, he's this, like, stupid character. The lore of Peewee Herman is so incredible. So he does this documentary. He doesn't tell anyone that he's, like, been dealing with cancer for six years.
Jacqueline
Okay.
Hannah
He just doesn't tell anyone. And I'm not going to give away spoilers, but it shows the process of, like, how he became the character Pee Wee Herman, which involved, like, him being a serious actor, him getting rejected from snl, him. All this stuff. Him coming out of the closet, going back in the closet, finding the role, and then watching him blow up, watching him get canceled. Like, it was so many things to, like. I love hearing someone's story about their, like, creative career as we've been. You know, the theme of this episode is the creative process. So I highly recommend it. And he's hilarious. Like, truly hilarious.
Jacqueline
So he was mainly an actor, though.
Hannah
So he was an actor that turned into like a comedian. And then he. Because he was like an improv guy at the ground.
Jacqueline
Okay.
Hannah
And you played a lot of different characters.
Jacqueline
I feel like when I was little, I would see the Pee Wee Herman show, but I was like, freaked out by it. I didn't like it.
Hannah
It's possible. It's cuz he's like, quirky, but he's very like alt comedy. Like avant garde.
Jacqueline
Yeah.
Hannah
And I didn't. I thought it was corny that I was like, no, he's a genius. And it was the kind of thing where he didn't want to, like, be himself because he's in the closet. So he like put everything into Pee Wee Herman and like, that was who he was.
Jacqueline
Got it.
Hannah
And then he gets in trouble. Not as Pimi Herman and it affects Pee Wee Herman and it's this whole thing. But very, very interesting. Very interesting.
Jacqueline
Okay, I love that.
Hannah
What are you watching?
Jacqueline
I actually just started this show on Netflix called the Secret Secrets We Keep, but it's like, in Sweden. Swedish.
Hannah
Wait, you never read.
Jacqueline
Okay, well, I was like, shoot, am I really gonna, like, read this? And then they dubbed it over so I'm actually listening to it. And so now you're just.
Hannah
It just sounds like everyone's like, bad lip syncing.
Jacqueline
Yeah, but I'm like, obsessed.
Hannah
So you love it? It's good.
Jacqueline
I love it.
Paige
It's good.
Jacqueline
I feel like there was one other documentary I wanted to ask.
Hannah
I watched the Brett Favre documentary. Is it Brett Favre?
Jacqueline
No. I feel like I saw it and I was like, wait, I want to see if hand. I'll think of it.
Hannah
There is. There's one out about when they put like, Anthrax and Advil, which I just wasn't in the mood for that.
Jacqueline
No, that was like a little.
Hannah
That was where I put my foot down. I said, let's have some boundaries. I said, do we really need to do this?
Jacqueline
Like, wait, so did Peewee Herman die?
Hannah
He's done. And that's not a spoiler, that's a fact. And you have to decipher between the two.
Jacqueline
Yeah, totally.
Hannah
There's a 911 one, which I like, can't watch 911 stuff. But I was. I'm like, getting better. And I. I watched the beginning of it and it was kind of. Yeah, it was really interesting because it shows, like, what was going on with the FBI during it, what they were hearing, what information.
Jacqueline
I watched a couple episodes of it. Or like the first two or something.
Hannah
And then the Brett Favre documentary is basically just. That was, like, a creepo. And when you're, like, larger than life as an athlete, you think you could get away with everything. A tale is oldest time. Truly, as some would say.
Jacqueline
Sometimes, like, do you ever just, like, and I'm not high, but do you ever just, like, look at us? And you're like, oh, we've been doing a podcast for, like, five. Like, sometimes.
Hannah
How do we still have stuff to talk about? Do you ever, like, midway, when we're, like, really passionate about something? I'm like, it's a miracle that we're still talking.
Jacqueline
No, like, I think about it all the time. I'm just like, okay, but, like, am I really gonna be married to someone for 40 years? And then, like, if I think about it, like, I've been in such a healthy relationship with you for almost 10 years.
Hannah
So this is the longest, healthiest relationship we both have ever been in.
Jacqueline
Truly.
Hannah
Literally, Literally.
Jacqueline
Compare every relationship to our relationship. Like, I said, any guy. I'm like, you're not funny. Like, if I can laugh. If I can laugh this much at home, why would I go out? I'm like, why buy the cow when you get. I'm like, I'm laughing at home by myself. What can you give me?
Hannah
You're like, honestly, it's kind of the same with Hannah. We ex. Like, I don't come with either of you, except she makes me laugh. So you're out, you're out, you're out. So my positive story of the week, which is a new thing we're trying. It probably isn't gonna last. My mom and I were driving to Sunset Boulevard, and it was, like, raining, and we're stuck on 42nd street, and we're like, we should just get out. And my mom is like, it's raining. Let's just wait a little longer. I'm like, I don't know how long we're gonna be in this traffic. And finally she's like, let's just get out. The traffic's too bad. And the guy goes, hold on. And I'm like, like, did I forget something? This Uber driver gives us his umbrella. And I go. At first, I was like, is there anthrax in this? Like, what's. What's. And he was like, here? And we were like, new Yorkers are beautiful.
Jacqueline
The best.
Hannah
The best people. And I don't care what. What people think. Oh, you got robbed once. If I had a nickel. New Yorkers. New Yorkers are there for You.
Jacqueline
No. In tough times, like, if you need, in tough times, if you need help, a New Yorker is stopping and helping you. But if you. But they don't care.
Hannah
This is my. Yeah, they don't care about the little things. But like, he, that was so sweet of him and it, like, made me, like, just happy in that moment. But I do have to say I don't. With umbrellas. I think they're nasty little things.
Jacqueline
I don't subscribe to it at all.
Hannah
I think it's like I can't be myself if I have to hold an umbrella.
Jacqueline
It's a social construct.
Hannah
I can't hold a conversation. I'm worrying about where my umbrella is.
Jacqueline
Like, I, I live in an alternate reality because, like, truly, when it's raining, it's raining for other people, not me. It's literally not raining for me.
Hannah
I treat umbrellas the same way I treat tampons. I'm like, if I don't, don't use it, it'll stop.
Jacqueline
And when you're done, we'll stop.
Hannah
When I'm done, I'm done. I'm done. Also, put your hand over your head.
Jacqueline
I need to free bleed and like, the rain needs to be free as well.
Hannah
When it rains. I drew Barry more that. Because I'm not. I don't, I don't live in fear. I don't live in fear. And that's the mental health moment. You guys, thank you so much for giggling with us.
Jacqueline
We love you so much. I'm so excited about Daphne. We'll see you next week.
Hannah
Love you. Bye.
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Podcast Summary: Giggly Squad – Episode: "Giggling about the WNBA, Daphne, and No Nail Summer" (Released June 4, 2025)
Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Welcome to another hilarious and insightful episode of Giggly Squad, where hosts Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo dive into a myriad of topics ranging from personal life updates to entrepreneurial ventures, all while keeping the laughs rolling. In this episode titled "Giggling about the WNBA, Daphne, and No Nail Summer," Hannah and Paige intertwine their personal experiences with business endeavors, offering listeners a blend of humor, authenticity, and valuable insights.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Jacqueline (Paige) sharing her journey in launching her own loungewear brand, Daphne. She delves deep into the creative and logistical challenges faced during the brand's development.
Key Highlights:
Inception of Daphne: Jacqueline explains how the idea for Daphne was born three years prior, emphasizing her vision for functional and stylish loungewear. [08:20]
Jacqueline: "I want to make loungewear that is functional. There are so many different things I wanted it to be."
Naming the Brand: The name "Daphne" was a spontaneous choice suggested by a team member, which resonated perfectly with the brand's identity.
Jacqueline: "When it came to naming my brand, someone on my team said, 'What about Daphne?' And I was like, 'You go.'"
Creative Process: Jacqueline highlights the meticulous attention to detail in designing each piece, from fabric selection to functional features like detachable ties and hidden buttons.
Jacqueline: "There are so many little things, like whether the buttons should be functional or hidden. It’s all very nuanced."
Emotional Investment: She shares the emotional rollercoaster of working on Daphne, revealing that despite challenges, her passion never waned.
Jacqueline: "I loved everything. I went to bed every night being like, I'm really happy with this decision."
Hannah opens up about her decision to adopt a "no nail summer," discussing the physical and emotional aspects of this choice.
Key Highlights:
Personal Struggles: Hannah recounts her experience of peeling her nails during a breakdown, leading to sensitivity and a fresh perspective on self-care.
Hannah: "I had a breakdown and I peeled it... it kind of hurt. Yeah, it hurt."
Active Lifestyle: She advocates for maintaining short nails due to her active summer activities like running, swimming, and gardening.
Hannah: "I'm into like, no nail summer. Because I'm active. We're running, we're swimming, we're pretending to garden."
The hosts share their memorable experience at a WNBA game, highlighting the supportive and empowering atmosphere.
Key Highlights:
Celebrity Encounters: Hannah narrates her and her dad's interaction with basketball star Sue Bird, leading to an emotional moment.
Hannah: "I said, Sue, I'm obsessed. I want to introduce you to my dad... Then I see Sue Bird, and my dad starts gasping for air."
Community Support: They emphasize the inclusive nature of the event, celebrating the presence of powerful lesbians and athletes.
Hannah: "It's women playing and the crowd that it brings, it's literally all not for the male gaze."
Emotional Connection: The moment when her dad cried upon meeting Sue Bird underscores the deep connections formed through sports.
Jacqueline: "He was having the best time of his life... We get to our seats, and this is just a side note."
Hannah and Jacqueline discuss their long-term relationship, highlighting the strength and humor they share.
Key Highlights:
Healthy Relationship: They reflect on their seven-year relationship, comparing it to the healthiest they've ever been.
Jacqueline: "I've been in such a healthy relationship with you for almost 10 years."
Humorous Banter: Their playful interactions showcase the depth of their bond and mutual support.
Hannah: "We're literally cousins, not twins."
Paige touches upon the importance of enjoying the creative journey over the end results, tying it back to Jacqueline's experience with Daphne.
Key Highlights:
Process Over Product: Emphasizing the joy found in creation, regardless of external validation.
Jacqueline: "I loved it so much and everything to me is so perfect that I feel like it's gonna do well because I'm obsessed with it."
Internal Fulfillment: Both hosts agree on the significance of finding personal satisfaction in one's work.
Hannah: "If you're not enjoying the process, even when you get what you wanted, it feels empty."
Hannah shares a heartwarming story about an Uber driver who offered her and her mom an umbrella during a rainy day in New York City.
Key Highlights:
Unexpected Kindness: The gesture from the driver left a lasting positive impression on Hannah.
Hannah: "The Uber driver gives us his umbrella... it made me just happy in that moment."
Community Spirit: They celebrate the inherent goodness and willingness to help within the New Yorker community.
Jacqueline: "New Yorkers are beautiful. The best."
The hosts discuss their favorite shows and documentaries, recommending insightful content to their listeners.
Key Highlights:
"Sirens" and "Pee Wee Herman" Documentary: Hannah highly recommends the Pee Wee Herman documentary for its deep dive into the character's life and struggles.
Hannah: "The lore of Pee Wee Herman is so incredible... very interesting."
"The Secret Secrets We Keep": Jacqueline shares her enthusiasm for this Swedish show, highlighting its unique appeal despite initial reservations.
Hannah: "I'm watching Sirens. I have to highly recommend the Pee Wee Herman documentary."
Throughout the episode, Hannah and Jacqueline sprinkle in fun discussions about fashion choices, summer trends, and lifestyle hacks, keeping the tone light and relatable.
Key Highlights:
Favorite Loungewear: They discuss their love for Lululemon's Align no Line Pant, praising its comfort and versatility.
Hannah: "The align no line pant isn't just a legging. It's a lifestyle."
No Nail Summer Humor: They share laughs over the quirks of maintaining short nails and the humorous side of grooming habits.
Jacqueline: "I got a book around my nose."
As the episode wraps up, Hannah and Jacqueline reiterate the importance of creativity, community support, and maintaining healthy relationships. They express excitement for future ventures and continue to engage their audience with warmth and authenticity.
Hannah: "You guys, thank you so much for giggling with us."
Jacqueline: "We love you so much. I'm so excited about Daphne. We'll see you next week."
Notable Quotes:
"[08:20] Jacqueline: 'I want to make loungewear that is functional. There are so many different things I wanted it to be.'"
"[10:05] Hannah: 'Best idea wins. Period.'"
"[17:00] Hannah: 'That's what we've been saying. That's that meme with the woman in the back.'"
"[28:43] Paige: 'You guys know I love trying a trend on. TikTok and CMOS is no exception.'"
Key Takeaways:
Authenticity Matters: Both hosts emphasize the significance of staying true to oneself, whether in personal choices like "no nail summer" or professional endeavors like launching Daphne.
Support Systems: The episode highlights the importance of supportive relationships, both personal and within communities, as seen in their experience at the WNBA game.
Creative Fulfillment: Embracing the creative process and finding joy in creation is a recurring theme, encouraging listeners to prioritize passion over perfection.
Kindness in Everyday Life: Small acts of kindness, such as the Uber driver's gesture, can have a profound impact, reinforcing the value of community and compassion.
Final Thoughts:
This episode of Giggly Squad is a delightful blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions. Hannah Berner and Paige DeSorbo's chemistry shines through as they navigate topics ranging from entrepreneurship to mental health, offering listeners both entertainment and meaningful commentary. Whether you're tuning in for the laughs or the life lessons, this episode promises to leave you smiling and inspired.