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- [00:00]
Hannah
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- [00:33]
Paige
I use Ubereats for everything. And of course, I'm ordering food all the time. But I don't just order food on Ubereats. I order everything. I order from the pharmacy. I order hair care items, I order alcohol. Whatever I need, I'm ordering it on Ubereats. Also, whenever I go to a hotel, I always seem to forget something from home. So I'm ordering hairspray, I'm ordering bobby pins. I just can't live without Ubereats. You can get grocery alcohol and everyday essentials in addition to restaurants and food you love, of course. So in other words, get almost, almost anything with Uber Eats. Order now for alcohol, you must be legal drinking age, so please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details.
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Giggler
Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your wi fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. I'm in the giggle. They just got away from me. Grazi. Gigglers. Yes, Giggleros. Sorry, that became a different language. I don't know what that was. I'm a little mad at you. Can I say something?
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Des
Yeah.
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Giggler
Love your content, support women in the arts. Your outfits are fire. Where are the food photos? I'm sick of seeing Emilio Pucci. Where's the parmesan? Do I know you're not giving me what I want? You're gatekeeping, you sicko.
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Des
Some of the things I order, I feel like I take a picture of it and it doesn't.
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Giggler
It's not the right aesthetic.
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Des
It doesn't look that appetizing. But I'm like, I promise it's really good. And here's the thing. What it. I think what it is, I order a lot of eggplant and it's just like, it's not the prettiest dish.
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Giggler
Wait, I didn't know. You know, I love eggplant.
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Des
I love eggplant.
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Giggler
No, I love eggplant.
- [02:31]
Des
I love eggplant in all forms. Honestly, I ordered it the other day and they brought it out in like a Bundt cake.
- [02:39]
Giggler
You can make eggplant in any way.
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Des
And I was like, this is so interesting. Then they, like, gave it to. They sliced it like it was cake.
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Giggler
For me, eggplant is the Italian potato. It comes in all shapes and forms. Fried, mashed, ground.
- [02:54]
Des
Are they mad?
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Giggler
Well, you know that place Frank Little Frankie's in New York City? They like, grill it, and they kind of mash it a little bit with the skin still on. And then they put honey and, like, something spicy on it.
- [03:08]
Des
Okay.
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Giggler
Welcome to the Food Network.
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Des
Yeah.
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Giggler
So anyway, just a request for. For more food content, but your outfits have been incredible. And you tried to make it. Oh, yeah. Do you want to speak for yourself for gaslighting everyone?
- [03:22]
Des
I gaslit everyone into thinking I didn't have any outfits. But here's the thing.
- [03:26]
Giggler
Gaslito. Gaslitito.
- [03:28]
Des
I just went through one week of outfits. I have another week here. So we're not out of the trenches. If anything, we're smack dab in the middle. Okay. So, yeah, obviously I had some outfits. I didn't come naked. But, you know, I'm definitely looking at the closet being like, we're getting down to the wire.
- [03:49]
Giggler
How much. How much shopping are you doing?
- [03:52]
Des
I have done a significant amount of shopping.
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Giggler
Okay, good.
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Des
And it feels great.
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Giggler
Good. Did you heal anything?
- [04:00]
Des
Retail therapy is real therapy.
- [04:03]
Giggler
Wait, can I announce? You remember how I told everyone? I don't know if I told everyone, but I stopped seeing my therapist. You.
- [04:09]
Des
I don't think you're. Now I. Okay.
- [04:11]
Giggler
And I got off my meds, but then I got right back on my meds real quick.
- [04:15]
Des
I was gonna say we're. We're free flowing this summer.
- [04:19]
Giggler
No, we've been back on the meds. But I was like, I feel like it's like having a. Having a therapist is like having a boyfriend where, like, it's fun until you're, like, sick of them. And then you're like, I want to be single. I just want my single self. And then you're, like, having the best time being single. And then it starts getting dark. It starts getting scary. It starts getting lonely. And then you're like. I usually talk to someone alone sometimes. So last week, I was just on the Internet hitting up random therapists, getting.
- [04:50]
Des
Consultations, like, through what medium, what form?
- [04:55]
Giggler
Psychology Today dot com. And then they'd call my home phone, and they'd be like, hey. And I'm like, do you think we're a good fit? And it was pretty traumatizing, but I.
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Des
Just want to rewind Your home phone.
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Giggler
I just wanted to say home phone.
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Hannah
Oh.
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Des
I was like, do you have a home phone? Because I was like, oh, maybe. Maybe in the Hamptons, she does have a home phone.
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Giggler
You know, people still. Sometimes when you're filling out forms, it says home phone and cell phone. And I go, grow up.
- [05:24]
Des
My parents have a home phone.
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Giggler
Do they have a fax? Do you remember when people faxed.
- [05:29]
Des
Yeah, we. Yes. I loved faxing.
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Giggler
That's one of my things I think is, like, Bluetooth. It's not real. Like, I don't think anyone actually sent a fax.
- [05:38]
Des
My grandma used to fax a lot of things, and now when I think about it, what was she faxing? And I remember, like, I remember when you would hear a fax come through, and she'd be like, don't touch the fax. Because, like, if you picked up the phone, it would, like, cancel it out.
- [05:53]
Giggler
Oh. Or she didn't want you to touch it because she was doing illegal activity. Grandma.
- [05:58]
Des
All I wanted to do was pick up the phone and, like, pretend. Wow. Bring back faxing.
- [06:03]
Giggler
Bring back faxing. So, yeah, anyway, I'm. I'm. I found a therapist I think I like.
- [06:10]
Des
Okay.
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Giggler
And I had my first today. It's a person. I highly recommend people, humans, for therapy, and I'm excited about where this is gonna go with us.
- [06:24]
Des
You know, therapy does sometimes feel like dating because that, like, there's nothing worse than breaking up with your therapist. Like, and you stay in it too long, and you know that you're in it too long, and you're like, I feel like we've outgrown each other, but I don't know how to get out of it, because you don't feel like blowing up your life right then and there. And some therapists can be, like, clingy girl.
- [06:46]
Giggler
Wait. I had a situation with a therapist where I basically was like, hey, I think I'm done. Like, thank you so much for everything. Love you. Bye. She responds. She goes, okay, that's not how we end things.
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Des
Love your work.
- [06:59]
Giggler
Love your work. 5 stars. I highly recommend. And was my number. And she was like, we need to talk about this. Like, this is so you and I to just run away from things and not process your emotions. And I was like, nope, definitely processed it. Thought it through. Actually was thinking through for a while now. And I finally got the guts to get out. And she's like, no, let's have a talk about it. And then she convinced me to do, like, every other week and then. And it basically was like, really hard to break up with her.
- [07:29]
Des
No. Because sometimes, like, obviously, like anything else, life gets so busy. But then you feel like you're in those sessions and you're like, I really don't have anything to talk about. And you're like, I feel like I'm wasting your time. I'm certainly wasting mine. And then those are. But sometimes those are the sessions where, like, there's some type of, like, breakthrough from something, like, years ago that, like, you wouldn't be talking about today. Do you know what I mean?
- [07:57]
Giggler
I also think therapy is expensive. So occasionally the therapist, look, I'm charming.
- [08:01]
Des
Yeah.
- [08:01]
Giggler
Occasionally we start riffing on something, and in my head I'm like, that was $200 of like. And low key. Like, I did make you laugh.
- [08:09]
Des
We could just do the pod twice.
- [08:11]
Giggler
I'm like, we could have made this a podcast. But also with therapy, traditional talk therapy, I learned, is not always good for someone like me where all I do is talk. So it's like, yeah, I will, like, ruminate or have, like, thoughts that I'm, like, obsessing over. So then sometimes I'll get over it. But then a therapy session will be starting, and I'm like, oh, shit, do I have to go back into that dark place to talk to her about it when I actually was moving on? So there's other methods of therapy that I've been looking into. Like edmr, which is asmr.
- [08:45]
Des
Edm.
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Giggler
EDM diploma.
- [08:48]
Des
You're going to start raving.
- [08:52]
Giggler
Ayahuasca. There's all kinds of ways of things. My Cyrus did edmr. It's basically like when you've been through trauma, it's like a trauma reprocessing thing. I haven't done it yet, so I'll keep you guys posted, but I have too much time on my hands this summer.
- [09:09]
Des
Wait, you're still not explaining it, though. You, like, you go somewhere and you lay down and listen to things.
- [09:15]
Giggler
Okay, no, I'm just doing virtual therapy. But emdr, I think, like, you talk through a hard time and you do something with your eye movements that helps you, like, reprocess it. But I don't know yet. But I know Miley Cyrus did it and she's really good at singing.
- [09:32]
Paige
Okay.
- [09:32]
Des
Sometimes. And people don't talk about this. Sometimes therapy is hard for me because I have such a bad memory. Like, I'd love to work through something, but, like, I literally can't think of. I can't remember anything. So I don't know.
- [09:45]
Giggler
I can't Imagine you in therapy as your therapist. I can't imagine you in therapy. I can't imagine you seriously, like, talking about something that isn't, like, good gossip. Like, you'd be so bored. You're like, yeah, I was sad. Tell me about what's going on with you. Wait, what's your opinion on having a good looking therapist?
- [10:13]
Des
Well, here. Well, okay. I don't. I.
- [10:18]
Giggler
Okay. Are you okay?
- [10:19]
Des
Yeah, I. I could never have a man therapist.
- [10:25]
Giggler
Well, that's not a therapist. That's just a man who got a degree.
- [10:29]
Des
Yeah, I could never have a male therapist. So what are my thoughts on, like, a pretty therapist? My therapist is pretty. I can only have a pretty therapist. I have to stare at her for an hour. I need her to be gorgeous.
- [10:42]
Giggler
See, I'm like, what have you been through?
- [10:46]
Des
Yeah. Yeah. Because here's the other thing. Like, I used to think, like, when I first started having therapists, I was like, okay, I need someone that's like a mom's age. Like, I need someone older, wiser, and as I get older, I need someone that's closer to my age. But then I. But then it's also like, okay, do I trust someone my age?
- [11:07]
Giggler
I think I said this on the. I might have said this on the pod, but I was looking for therapists, and one of the girls, she said that she graduated in 2013. And I go, yeah, you're not good at your job. You just graduated college, babe, with me. We're babies who just graduated. And then I was like, wait, she's been in this field for over a decade?
- [11:27]
Des
Yeah, no, it's like, very jarring, but it's like, yeah, obviously. So, yeah, mine is actually very close to my age.
- [11:33]
Giggler
But I did learn about myself by, like, who I chose as my therapist, because I tried to be like, honestly, when you get back into dating, where you're like, I'm not just gonna jump into the first person that gives me attention. And I had a couple ones, and I ended up choosing, like, the quirkier one. And I was like, am I the problem?
- [11:51]
Des
Well, you need something to, like.
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Giggler
I want it to be fun.
- [11:54]
Des
My current therapy, though, that I'm. I'm doing right now is instead of pancakes for the table, it's ravioli. And everyone seems to be a fan.
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Giggler
Wait, first of all, no one talks about how cute raviolis are, like, adorable for no reason.
- [12:12]
Des
Here's the thing. I'm. I've been getting ravioli every single night for dinner, and it's just like, it's starting to Be too much, but I can't stray away from it. But I. I feel like I need to try other things. So the other night at dinner, I was like, you know what, Mom? I'm just going to get a ravioli for the table, and whoever wants some can have some. No one had any. And so I. It's just me getting two entrees.
- [12:33]
Giggler
I do love. Just, like, when you can't decide, just say one thing's for the table and eat it for yourself. So you look generous and you get what you want.
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Des
Exactly.
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Giggler
But also, with ravioli, just to, like, support ravioli for a second is it comes in all shapes and forms. Like, it's not, like, always the same thing. And you could get, like, spinach in it, which is healthy.
- [12:53]
Des
Sometimes I'm getting, like, smaller, circular ones, and then other times, I'm getting fat, square ones.
- [12:59]
Giggler
Oh, my God, they're so cute. Chubby.
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Des
And you want to know what? That's my form of excitement now as it's coming over to the table, which one is it going to be?
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Giggler
Is it. Is it that thick, but I can.
- [13:12]
Des
Get those big squares, or am I.
- [13:14]
Giggler
Going to walk away? Ravioli.
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Paige
Yeah.
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Giggler
Well, I love that for you. Can you post it next time? Because you look beautiful, but I'm going to need some real content. Okay. I'm going to need some parmesan.
- [13:28]
Des
No, definitely.
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Giggler
I have a lot of stuff I want to talk about. Oh. I have children.
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Des
I was just gonna say, I think you should start with the most important.
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Giggler
Thing for if you're on YouTube, this.
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Grace
Is a bonus for you.
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Giggler
In the back, you're gonna see. I have all my kittens. You can't see them, but you see where they're living. I'll have Grace bring some to you later. She's with me right now taking care of the kittens. It's part of her job description. It was crazy because Grace came to visit. So I said, what is the perfect day in West Hampton for Grace? I said, we're gonna wake up, we're gonna get coffee, we're gonna go to the animal shelter, we're gonna play some tennis, and we're gonna nap and pool and sleep.
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Des
Yeah. She said, yes, my. My dream weekend. Okay.
- [14:15]
Giggler
And I will curate that for you. You know, I'm. I have it written out. So DEZ is like, okay, I'll drive you guys to the shelter, because I can't drive. And we get there and like, wait.
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Des
I. Daddy, like, I know you can't drive, but. But I didn't. I don't put you in every context of, like, you not driving.
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Hannah
No.
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Giggler
When I have to go somewhere, I have to be like, hey, I've never.
- [14:43]
Des
Thought about, like, you have a friend over, basically, and you have to be like, hey, like, we kind of want to, like, go do this, like, thing together. And he has to drive you.
- [14:51]
Giggler
We want to go to the movies. Can you take us? So he. He takes us. And I was so well behaved because this wasn't about me, this trip. This is about Grace and Grace getting comfortable with different cats, seeing if she likes cats. And I think because I played it so chill and cool, we're talking to Jill, head of Southampton Animal Shelter Cats, the cat wrangler, the cat shaman. And she was like, we have. We're overflowing with kittens right now. We need to get kittens adopted. And I was like, I'll tell the gigglers. She goes, I have a bunch in the. In the back room still that are still getting their shots and stuff. And I go, show me. Show me what's going on in the back. Brings me to the back. And she goes, we have these three that just came.
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Des
A matter of time before you buy one of these places.
- [15:35]
Giggler
I go, how much is the whole place? I go, fuck the cat. How much is this square footage? Look, Paige and I've been podcasting a lot lately. I'm gonna put all my giggly squad money. Yeah. So we're looking at the three cats. Like, they were found in Bridgehampton and rescued, and we just need someone to foster them for, like, a week OR 2. And Dez goes, okay, we can foster them. Des has never, never done that, ever.
- [16:11]
Des
This man loves you.
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Giggler
That is his love language. Giving me kids. And I pretend I was like, oh, I. I didn't. I wasn't trying to foster any kittens, but if you. If you say so, I will. And now we're. We have three babies now.
- [16:26]
Des
We're. You're a proud family of three children right now.
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Giggler
The names are Hazelnut, Cashew, and Peanut, but they're up to debate. Oh, Grace wants to bring one.
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Des
Yeah, bring one in.
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Giggler
If you're not on YouTube. I'm sorry.
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Des
You're really missing out.
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Giggler
You're really missing out. But our job is to socialize them. Oh, wait, Sorry.
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Des
No, she's the cutest.
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Grace
That's Peanut.
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Giggler
Do you want to bring. Oh, my God.
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Des
She's the best.
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Giggler
Do you want to bring Hazelnut? Thank you. Next. Next up. This is. I was joking. This is a cat pod. This is Paige on Amazon Live and Now we have the cutest, literally cutest girl. Her name is Hazelnut. She is adorable. I bite you. Wait.
- [17:20]
Des
All of anything you've ever named has been a food.
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Giggler
I'm obsessed with food names. I'm obsessed with them. But I know what you guys are thinking. Hannah, what about Butterfly? What about your literal daughter that you had from your womb?
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Des
No. One thing about you, you stay pissing Butter off.
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Giggler
Butter.
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Des
Like, this is.
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Giggler
I swear to God. Yesterday, we bring the cats, and Grace looks at me. She goes, what's Butter gonna do? I'm gonna say, butter's gonna. Literally got too excited. Butter goes, can I have a day?
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Des
Yeah. Can I have a literal day?
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Giggler
Literal day. So Butter walks in the sun room thinking it's a normal day, sees that there's something going on in this pen flip flake. Her tail gets all fluffy and goes, absolutely not. Hasn't left my bedroom in two days. And she knows there's something out there and does not want to know what it is.
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Des
Wait, that's.
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Giggler
So. She's like, I don't know her. None of my business. She goes, whatever's going out there is none of my business. I don't want to know. She's happy.
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Des
I'm not even getting involved.
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Giggler
I'm not. That's literally. She saw some drama, and she said, I've had enough. Like, I don't. I don't care about it. So the family's good over here. How is your family? How is the dynamics on vacation?
- [18:37]
Des
My family, we have been having a lot of fun. Okay? My brother's girlfriend, thank God for her because she has been taking Italian for, like, a couple years. So, like, anytime we get into a pickle where, like, we don't really know what's going on, she just, like, comes right in and, like, starts talking, and it's like, I mean, I'll never come to Italy without her. Like, I'll never not have a translator. Like, she's just. It's so much ease. It's so much. It makes the experience so much better.
- [19:10]
Giggler
Do people come up to you and speak Italian because you. You look so Italian.
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Des
Okay, well, here's the other thing. Everyone, I think, legitimately does think that we speak Italian because so many people go up to my mom and start speaking Italian. But then, like, I'll see. See, other Americans were like. And they'll just go up and start, like, speaking English. And so we do feel a little bit better than people here, because they do. I think they do think that we're authentic.
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Giggler
You are in Your homeland.
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Des
Yeah. So that makes us feel better. This place is just like. There's so many crazy things. Like the other night, we're walking back from dinner, actually, Sierra. It was the night Sierra was here, and she came to dinner with us. And we're walking back, and we're just like, is that Elton John playing?
- [20:02]
Giggler
Like.
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Des
Like, the island is not big. So, like, anywhere he. And yes, it was. Elton John was performing in the back of our hotel at, like, a party. And we were like, what is going on? And it was just a really. Just a really low key baptism.
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Giggler
That's so Italian.
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Des
I thought someone was gonna be like, oh, it's a wedding.
- [20:29]
Giggler
That's their quinceanera. Like a baptism in Italy. They're like, this shit's about to be lit. Because God is. I don't know what they do at baptisms, but God's coming. Wait, did he play Tiny Dancer? I hope he did.
- [20:41]
Des
So I didn't hear that one, but I heard him play, like, three songs.
- [20:45]
Giggler
So it was a lit baptism.
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Des
I mean, it was like the crazy. I was like, what is this experience that we're having right now? And. And then I saw our charades partner in the pool the other day.
- [20:57]
Giggler
Tell me everything.
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Des
So I'm. So I literally get in the pool and I'm like, with my family. And all of a sudden this man swims by, and I'm like, I think that's Patrick Schwartz.
- [21:08]
Giggler
He was like, who swims in a pool? Who actually swim?
- [21:13]
Des
I felt like I was at. I felt like I was at summer camp or. I'm like, hey, I went to camp.
- [21:17]
Giggler
With like, hey, are your parents divorced? My parents are divorced.
- [21:22]
Des
He comes up from the water, he takes his goggles off.
- [21:26]
Giggler
He spit in my face. She want to go in the hot tub.
- [21:30]
Des
I heard, honestly, it was giving White Lotus Season 2. Like, we were in Italy. We're in this pool. I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, hi. And he looks at me and he's like, hi. And I was like, I was on Jimmy Fallon with you. And he was like, oh, yeah. And then we just started chatting. And then, like, other people in the pool were just like. It was just a very interesting experience. It was just so funny.
- [21:54]
Giggler
Well, it's funny because that was the reaction Jon Hamm had with me, who I've seen 47 times this year. But it's like when they see you in different random places. Like, he was at the New York Library.
- [22:05]
Des
Yeah.
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Giggler
And I just go, hi. And he looks at me like, hi. And I go, I beat you in charades. And he goes, how is that not.
- [22:14]
Des
Burnt into your brain?
- [22:15]
Giggler
I know you just got over it with your therapist, but let's bring it back. Yeah, but Patrick was so friendly with us. Like, I actually felt like we were best friends. And when he left, I was like, okay, like, what do we do without Patrick now?
- [22:28]
Des
Right? Well, he's vacationing. He's doing well. He's on vacation.
- [22:33]
Giggler
The amount of people that are probably making stupid jokes about White Lotus to him about, like, drinking milkshakes, I feel.
- [22:39]
Des
No, I literally. That is all I was saying, thinking, because then don't do it. Then he got out of the pool, and I could tell, like, certain people were going up and being like, hey, like, huge fan or whatever. And I was like, the amount of White Lotus jokes that people probably think are so original, that are being just yelled at. This man all day long.
- [22:59]
Giggler
He can't go on vacation again. Well, good for him.
- [23:04]
Grace
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- [24:25]
Paige
I use Uber Eats for everything. And of course I'm ordering food all the time. But I don't just order food on Uber Eats. I order everything. I order from the pharmacy. I order hair care items, I order alcohol. Whatever I need, I'm ordering it on Uber Eats. Also, whenever I go to a hotel, I always seem to forget something from home. So I'm ordering hairspray, I'm ordering bobby pins. I just can't live without Uber Eats. You can get grocery alcohol and everyday essentials in addition to restaurants and food you love, of course. So in other words, get almost, almost anything with Uber Eats. Order now for alcohol. You must be legal drinking age, so please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details.
- [25:13]
Grace
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- [26:17]
Giggler
Paige is the one who put me.
- [26:18]
Grace
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- [27:49]
Giggler
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- [27:52]
Grace
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Giggler
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Grace
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- [28:31]
Giggler
And they have really fun flavors like cotton candy or popsicle firecracker.
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Grace
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- [29:00]
Giggler
Let'S discuss on the docket. Yes, do you think it's a coincidence that we went on the Today show a week later Hoda announced her retirement. Then we finally meet Anna Wintour at An event about a month ago, and now she has announced her retirement. Are we the Black Widows?
- [29:21]
Des
Are we okay?
- [29:24]
Giggler
Are we the problem? Because I've been. I've been working with my therapist on. On, you know, going inward. Am I the problem here?
- [29:31]
Des
We make everyone quit their jobs.
- [29:35]
Giggler
She saw us at that event, and she goes. And the industry's done. She goes, who are you? Okay, I gotta go. Yeah, I'm. I'm. She was, like, seen at a bar just, like, drinking.
- [29:48]
Des
Wait, I saw that.
- [29:50]
Giggler
I was like, instagram.
- [29:51]
Des
I was like, that is.
- [29:53]
Giggler
She's like, I'm actually been sober my whole life, but I'm gonna relapse after meeting Hannah Page at the New York Public Library. Hannah, if you talk to John Hamm one more time, I'm gonna lose it.
- [30:03]
Des
No, it. I couldn't believe she was stepping down. Do you want to know why? What shocked me the most? This is, like, so. So has nothing to do with anything. When it said, like, oh, after 37 years, I was like, oh, she seems like the type of person that would have wanted to retire on, like, an even number, like, at, like, 40. I was like, 37 doesn't seem like.
- [30:28]
Giggler
You know, that doesn't seem chic. Okay, interesting. Wait, that's so you. To care about those things. That is so you.
- [30:37]
Des
I was like, but wouldn't the headline sound better, like, a 40 years ago?
- [30:42]
Giggler
Obviously, the press release was gonna say 37, and it's kind of an ugly number. 37 is kind of ugly.
- [30:48]
Des
37 is, like, such an ugly number.
- [30:51]
Giggler
Seven in general, like, gag.
- [30:54]
Des
Gross.
- [30:55]
Giggler
But 38 is. Is giving elevated editorial.
- [30:59]
Grace
38.
- [31:01]
Giggler
38. That is like, when you have.
- [31:03]
Des
So true.
- [31:04]
Giggler
When you have an uneven birthday, everyone's like, I'm not celebrating your 33.
- [31:07]
Des
And why do I feel like 33 is, like, overweight?
- [31:11]
Giggler
Oh, the number. I was like. To just.
- [31:17]
Des
Like, 33. The number is like, it looks over. Like, it's overweight. But 34. 34 jogs.
- [31:24]
Giggler
Yes. 34 runs, dabbles and pilates.
- [31:28]
Des
Yeah, for sure.
- [31:32]
Giggler
And everyone in their 20s. You're doing great.
- [31:35]
Des
Yeah.
- [31:36]
Giggler
Anxiety. You'll be fine.
- [31:37]
Des
Yeah. Literally doesn't count.
- [31:38]
Giggler
It doesn't count. I was talking to someone yesterday about fashion, because that's what I do. As you know, people are like, hannah, tell me about Paige's fashion. I'm like, I will. And we were talking about how I feel like there's two types of girls. Girls that either own, like, a ton of tops or girls who own a ton of bottoms.
- [32:01]
Des
Yeah.
- [32:02]
Giggler
I realize I Own neither.
- [32:06]
Des
Okay.
- [32:06]
Giggler
You know, some people who were like, yeah, I have my jeans. Like, I have a couple jeans. But, like, I love buying a ton of tops.
- [32:12]
Des
I have way more tops than I do bottoms.
- [32:15]
Giggler
I feel like I never even think about bottoms. I just, like, assume it's there, and then like, six years later, I'm like, oh, I should get new jeans pants.
- [32:23]
Des
Yeah, yeah.
- [32:24]
Giggler
I just assume the bottoms figure itself out.
- [32:27]
Des
I'm always. I'm. I'm always having a tough time finding pants where I feel like I love so many shirts. I'm like, I need that top.
- [32:36]
Giggler
Well, people make fun of Millennials because we were obsessed with going out tops.
- [32:40]
Des
Yeah, we like tops now.
- [32:42]
Giggler
We don't really know what, like, a going out top is, but blazers are back, which that was all us. What are blazers? Just, like, wearing oversized blazers all the time where they.
- [32:55]
Des
I don't feel like they went anywhere.
- [32:57]
Giggler
But, like, going out wise. I feel like girls weren't wearing blazers.
- [33:00]
Des
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, like, not when we were in college, no.
- [33:06]
Giggler
Yeah, with, like, our little skirts. Have you heard? It's Sardine Girl.
- [33:10]
Des
Summer, did you see my fish bag page?
- [33:15]
Giggler
That was the best accessory I've ever seen. Like, the second I saw it.
- [33:18]
Des
That was so cool.
- [33:19]
Giggler
It was so cool. It was so good for Italy. The aesthetic, the vibes were amazing. How'd you find it?
- [33:26]
Des
Okay, this is actually gonna be a very funny story.
- [33:31]
Giggler
I've been waiting all day for you to ask about my bag, how I.
- [33:33]
Des
Found it, because it's so not me. And I don't want you to get jealous because you're my best friend and no one could ever take your place. So one day I was, like, on Instagram and I'm just like, scroll. Or maybe I was on Tik Tok. I don't know. I think I was on Instagram and I was just, like, scrolling and I, like, saw this girl and I was just like, wait, this girl is like, so, like, I just like, like this girl. And so, like, I would keep always, like, looking at her Instagram pictures and I'd be like, oh, my God, she's like, such cool style. And then, like, I was watching her videos and I was like, are you.
- [34:05]
Giggler
Sure this wasn't my profile?
- [34:07]
Des
I feel like I would be, like, friends with this girl. And that's like, so you're creepy.
- [34:13]
Giggler
You're creep. You mean you're creepy.
- [34:15]
Des
That is so not me. So whatever. So I DM me.
- [34:18]
Giggler
I've never wanted to be friends with.
- [34:19]
Des
Anyone I was having a parasocial relationship. I was like, in my head, this is what this girl is like in real life. And I feel like we would be friends.
- [34:28]
Giggler
Yeah.
- [34:28]
Des
So whatever. I message her, and we start, like, chatting, and, like, I. And I was like, yeah, like, kind of like her. We've never, like, met in person, and we've never, like. Like, it's like a slow burn type of thing.
- [34:40]
Paige
But she.
- [34:40]
Des
She came out with bags, and she was like, can I send you one? And I was like, absolutely. And so it got there, like, right before I left for Italy. And when I got there, I was like, this is the sickest bag ever. The company is called the Vin vin, And so that's how I have it.
- [34:59]
Giggler
You put your phone in it? Depends on the phone.
- [35:04]
Des
Did I put my phone in it? I think I did. Depends on the phone. I actually don't know if I put my phone in it, but.
- [35:11]
Giggler
Not important.
- [35:13]
Des
Not important. But I have a suction cup phone, so I can stick it. I stuck it right to the back.
- [35:18]
Giggler
You go to a restaurant, you just stick it on something.
- [35:21]
Des
I'm good.
- [35:22]
Giggler
No, it's so cute.
- [35:24]
Des
So cute.
- [35:25]
Giggler
I love Sardine Girl. Summer. I feel like it's very eclectic. Grandpa.
- [35:30]
Des
I'm very into it.
- [35:32]
Giggler
Anything with fish or food.
- [35:35]
Des
Okay. Actually, speaking of fish, so there's so many, like, stray cats around here, and, like, the past couple of years, I've, like, seen them, but now that I'm, like, a full cat mom, now I, like, I really spot them, and I feel like they've, like, also been giving me the same energy back. I even tonight was like, oh, should I order, like, because the restaurant we had to go to tonight, we had to take. It was, like, a really long walk, and I saw, like, four different cats. I'm literally sitting at the dinner table, and in my head, I'm like, should I order a fish so that, like, if I don't eat it all, I can, like, put some in my hand and on my way back, I can give it to a cat. And I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I have entered a whole new era.
- [36:29]
Giggler
Paige, you texted me a couple days ago out of the blue. Do you follow Merv the Cat on Tick Tock? I was like, oh, she's. She's indeed. She's. This is. I thought you were gonna text me something important. Do you follow Merv the Cat on Tick Tock?
- [36:48]
Des
Oh, my TikTok alert the UN. No, my whole Tick Tock is cats and capri pants. Different ways to wear Capri pants and cats. Merv the cat is one of the best cats ever. I'm obsessed with her. She. It's.
- [37:05]
Giggler
Yeah. Did I then do like a 40 minute deep dive on Merv? Yes. Merv is Siamese and Merv speaks to its owner.
- [37:12]
Des
And my only complaint about Merv, they don't post enough. I need more. I want. I want so much more content.
- [37:19]
Giggler
You want a live feed of Merv?
- [37:22]
Des
Yes.
- [37:25]
Giggler
Well, that's how I feel of your food content in Italy that you're like, literally, literally gatekeeping.
- [37:30]
Des
Okay, I'm gonna actually. I'm gonna post so much food tomorrow.
- [37:34]
Giggler
Wait, what?
- [37:36]
Des
Okay, so what. When it comes to this trip my mom pretty much planned, like, and we're not like, active. Like, we're not sightseeing people. Like, I've never learned the history of any. Anything here. Like, I literally just know the restaurants. We lay in the pool and then we go to restaurants. So my mom pretty much does all the restaurant reservations. And I don't know, I saw this like one restaurant on TikTok or something and I sent it and I was like, oh, like, let's for one of the nights try this, like, new place that we haven't been to before. And it's like a Michelin star restaurant. And I think it's going to be like a really fun experience. It was so bad that it actually made the dinner so fun. Like, it was so funny.
- [38:23]
Giggler
Was it like a bit, like, it became a bit.
- [38:26]
Des
It became a bit like, if it became a full bit that, like, how could we possibly have found a bad restaurant in Italy? And then of course, it's like, well, Paige found it. Like, it was just.
- [38:38]
Giggler
And also it has a Michelin star. Like, the whole point of Michelin star is being like, we've added it. It's definitely great.
- [38:45]
Des
It's definitely. Yeah, it's the best in the world.
- [38:47]
Giggler
It was so, so dad coded, though. Dads hate fancy restaurants. My dad's favorite thing to do is go to a fancy restaurant and then go, can we go to McDonald's now? I'm hungry, I'm hungry. Can we get a pizza?
- [39:02]
Des
We added a person to our reservation because Sierra came and the hostess was like a little bit snippy about it and she was like, well, I don't know if we can accommodate it. And my dad was already pissed off that we were going to this restaurant that he goes, well, then I don't.
- [39:15]
Paige
Have to eat any.
- [39:19]
Giggler
Went in bed.
- [39:20]
Des
So dramatic. He literally looked at our family and goes, I don't need to eat if you guys need the other place. And my mom was like, what? Like, what are you talking about? He's so dramatic.
- [39:31]
Giggler
I love to see who becomes the diva in the family when. Because everyone has their own triggers, and on vacation, everything will eventually trigger someone. So to see who's having the meltdown of the night is so funny.
- [39:43]
Des
Our family dynamic is funny because my dad's obsessed with me. My mom is obsessed with my brother. My brother doesn't give a shit about my mom, and I am, like, breaking generational trauma with my dad. I'm like, let's work on something for today. How do we feel about.
- [40:07]
Giggler
Is it. Cause you feel like you and Gary are so similar and you've done some therapy, so you're like, hey, you don't need to take this note. But I have notes.
- [40:15]
Des
Okay. Well, I. Well, my dad has anxiety. Like, my dad has severe anxiety, and I don't think that that's ever crossed his mind.
- [40:25]
Giggler
So you have to explain what anxiety is.
- [40:28]
Des
Yes. Because. And because I'm like, okay. You know, for example, when we get to the airport, you all of a sudden get really nervous. I'm like, that is anxiety.
- [40:42]
Giggler
Explaining to an Italian man what anxiety is. Is so cute.
- [40:48]
Des
Okay, wait, I'm gonna say something else. And I hate to say it. I hate to say it. And I'm not a mom. I'm not a mom. The amount of nannies here is. It's like. It's so crazy. Like, I don't. I don't actually. I haven't seen one mom. I don't know where any of the moms are at the pool.
- [41:09]
Giggler
They're drunk.
- [41:11]
Des
Seen are the kids and the nannies, and it's so. It's so insane. And then after traveling with my parents, I'm like, I can travel with a kid if I can travel with you too.
- [41:22]
Giggler
Or you might need a nanny for your parents.
- [41:25]
Des
Yeah, they're, like, having twins.
- [41:27]
Giggler
That's so funny. Actually, I was at a coffee shop recently, and this baby walks in and look.
- [41:33]
Des
Well, the baby didn't walk in.
- [41:38]
Giggler
The.
- [41:38]
Des
Baby, it was carried.
- [41:39]
Giggler
Let's be honest. The baby was.
- [41:40]
Des
The baby was strolled in.
- [41:42]
Giggler
Yeah. Yes. And this was a baby where, like, you know when you make eye contact and you go, oh, you're a cute one. Like, you're actually really cute. And then for some reason, in our DNA, it's our job to tell the mother that their baby is, like, actually a cute one.
- [41:56]
Des
Yeah.
- [41:57]
Giggler
So I'm walking by, and the mom starts, like, smiling when she Sees me and I just go, by the way. Like, so kid is really cute and she goes by the way. I'm a giggler, by the way. Not my kid. I'm the nanny. It's like, oh, my God. Like, you just never know who's who. And I go, well, good thing you're nannying of not an ugly kid because that makes it better hopefully.
- [42:18]
Des
I've been watching some of the nannies and I'm like, you deserve a Nobel peace prize. That's a crazy tantrum. And you can't even like, really yell at that kid because it's not yours.
- [42:31]
Giggler
Nannying is so hard because I also want everyone to like me. So, like, when I'm with a kid, we. We. I was babysitting Des's niece. No, sorry, nephew. I always get it confused. But he's like a full teenager and he. Teenage boys are crazy. Like, he started. They were like cat toys around for butter. He started just like playing with the cat toys, like a cat, like, throwing it around. I was like, you just give them some balls and they like chase it.
- [43:00]
Des
Were you ever a babysitter in high school?
- [43:03]
Giggler
Yes. I did a lot of babysitting and I was the. The moms liked me because I would get the tea from like the like 10 to 12 year olds. I'd be like, who are we dating? Like, they trust me, but I would let them do literally anything, like crystal meth. I'd be like, as long as I'm here.
- [43:20]
Des
Like, I remember one time I went into like, buy cupcakes somewhere. Like, I don't know. That was like, in high school. I was probably buying it for like a boy or something. I was very male centered. And I remember standing at the counter and I was like in my school uniform. And the person like behind the counter was like, hey, any chance you, like, babysit? And I literally remember being like, ew. And I literally. I looked at this woman and I go, no. Because she was like, oh, how old are you? And I was like 17. I was like a senior in high school. And she was like, oh, my God, any chance you babysit? And I was like, oh, no, you looked at you.
- [43:57]
Giggler
So you can't afford me. You can't afford this.
- [44:00]
Des
I was like, I would not trust me with your children.
- [44:04]
Giggler
I was more like teaching tennis. But occasionally, like, one of my friends had like a crazy entrepreneurial babysitting business. Like, ran Shelter island in the summer.
- [44:12]
Des
Yeah.
- [44:12]
Giggler
She was like, hey, girl, dropped out, need you from four to six. And I'm like. And she's like, I give you 50 bucks. And I said, period. Let's go. I go in. But some of these kids are crazy. Like, one of the kids called me a slut once. These kids don't know you. And you know what I said? You saw it into my soul.
- [44:30]
Des
Yeah, but we have.
- [44:31]
Giggler
We have Des's nephew staying with us. And suddenly, like, I realized, like, I'm not just like, his friend. Like, he's looking at me like I'm a mom. So the. In the morning, he comes up to me and he's like, what is there to eat?
- [44:45]
Des
Yeah.
- [44:46]
Giggler
And I was like, go hunt something. Who do I look like? You're not sucking on my title.
- [44:50]
Des
You're like, uber eats.
- [44:52]
Giggler
I was like, figure it out. And then I'm like, oh, my God. Because 16 year olds seem like adults. But then I realized, like, he has a mom who feeds him every morning. So he looked at me like, where's my food? And I was like, go fishing. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out what I'm having. Do I want a latte? Do I want matcha? I'm dealing with my own.
- [45:11]
Des
No, the moms need more praise because I don't know how they're doing it.
- [45:16]
Giggler
Well, this is the thing not to. We always get back here, but it's the first time ever. We're like, moms.
- [45:21]
Hannah
We.
- [45:22]
Giggler
I say we am right now. We have our own jobs. We're doing everything and expected to also keep, like, the house and to cook. No, no. But that's why I think the nanny business is, like, getting crazy competitive. Like, people try to steal each other's nannies in, like, high society in New York City.
- [45:46]
Des
I need more of the nannies to write books.
- [45:48]
Giggler
I want Uber drivers and nannies to, like, be so fucking frail before social media.
- [45:54]
Des
Like, I wish there had been a reality show, like, about nanny. I mean, they would. Could never do it now. It would never work.
- [46:00]
Giggler
But do you remember that one with that, like, mean British nanny that would.
- [46:03]
Des
Come in and, like, discipline your children? She'd be immediately canceled today.
- [46:08]
Giggler
She was so mean. And there was this.
- [46:11]
Des
People would never let that fly.
- [46:12]
Giggler
Did you see the clip of a seven year old who had a mohawk who goes, I don't like her. She doesn't like punk rock. I think she's a Republican. Or they would, like, switch. I forget what the show was, but that shit was hilarious.
- [46:29]
Des
Oh, I used to love when they would switch moms.
- [46:32]
Giggler
When they switch moms. Yeah. And then you're like, mom, I take back everything I said about you.
- [46:41]
Grace
Look, sometimes life gets a little crazy. Some of us could be a little spontaneous and you never know what's going to happen. And that's why I love having cachavas whole body meal shakes to keep my body and mind nourished all day, especially when I'm on the run. Every now and then I'm like oh my gosh I'm so hungry. What am I going to do? And I can't find a good full balance meal anywhere in the vicinity. Especially when I'm on the road.
- [47:07]
Giggler
And ordering food could take so long.
- [47:09]
Grace
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- [49:54]
Des
Wait. One thing I wanted to say and I I'm. I'm so proud of us for like when we have a certain opinion and we like really stick to it. Like I feel like I was very pro jojo Siwa when people were like she's so annoying and like what does she do? She thinks she's like she has a false sense of reality. And I just like there was something in me that I was just like no, I. I really want good things for her like let her dance and whatever.
- [50:22]
Giggler
Let her dance.
- [50:23]
Des
I'm obsessed with this era of JoJo Siwa. I watched a full tick tock of her making a charcuterie board where everything was red and I was like never did I think I'd be here in 2025 where I'm watching JoJo Siwa cut out strawberries in the shape of a heart for a charcuterie board for her boyfriend. And I love it. I love it so much more. I stuck with you through the thick of it.
- [50:52]
Giggler
We forget and I could be wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure for the younger, younger generation, JoJo Siwa was like their Hannah Montana. Like JoJo Siwa was huge. Like the biggest thing like selling out arenas. Just like being I'll never forget like.
- [51:09]
Des
The video clip of like Northwest like meeting JoJo Siwa when she was like.
- [51:13]
Giggler
Little wait, I'm drinking my Duncan Mango pineapple refresher. Which one did you get?
- [51:19]
Des
I just have coffee. Also don't forget we have a cute giggly squad times Duncan Merch giveaway. You can win some of our favorite summer must haves. Just go to gigglysummer.com to enter.
- [51:30]
Giggler
I have two documentaries you guys have to watch.
- [51:34]
Des
Are you if you're gonna say the Mariska Hargitay one. I need to know everything. Did you watch it?
- [51:38]
Giggler
Obviously I watched it. I literally.
- [51:40]
Des
No, I need to know everything.
- [51:43]
Giggler
Poor Grace, because she's here, like, to rel. And the second we finish dinner, I go, it's documentary time. Sit down on the couch. We have two new documentaries to watch.
- [51:51]
Des
You run a tight ship at your camp. You run a type ship at your summer camp.
- [51:57]
Giggler
Also, we had. We got into a little fight because one of the nights I. I went to go pee, come back, she's gone. And I was like, wait, that's so weird and rude.
- [52:10]
Des
She literally didn't want to hang out anymore. And she, She. I really.
- [52:14]
Giggler
She escaped. Like, she waited for me to leave and was like, it's my time to out. So the next day, it's the morning.
- [52:20]
Des
I'm so proud of her. That is so me coded. Like, oh, I'll be right back. See ya.
- [52:25]
Giggler
See, no, if you did that, I'd be like. And she was done with Grace. I was like, we don't do that in this relationship. So we're spending like a normal morning. I think we went to get smoothies and we're drinking smoothies, and I just look at her and I go, by the way, you didn't say good night last night. I said, can I talk to you for a second? Why didn't you say goodnight to me? And she looks at me and she goes, you know, it's crazy. I. I was walking down the stairs and I said good night, and you didn't respond, so I thought you were being weird. And I was like, I didn't hear you.
- [52:58]
Des
And that's why. And that's why as adults, we talk.
- [53:01]
Giggler
Things out and we talk things out. So anyway, force her to watch the documentary. Mariska Harkitay, badass star of svu, had. Her mom was basically like Marilyn Monroe. Less famous, but of the time of Blonde Bombshell. Definitely inspired by Marilyn Monroe.
- [53:26]
Des
And I would say, just as pretty. I mean, gorgeous.
- [53:28]
Giggler
Gorgeous, yeah. Also a tale as old as time. Like genius. She spoke like, five languages, was like a classical violin player. And she died when Mariska was three years old in a car accident.
- [53:45]
Des
And she was in the car, right?
- [53:47]
Giggler
The kids, the whole family's in the car. The three kids were in the back. She was sitting in the back, decided to move to the front. And then the two boys were saved. And as they wake up from, like, their concussion or whatever and they're on the way to the hospital, they go, where's our Sister, they go back. Mariska was lodged, like, in between cushions, and they almost left her there to die. If her brother didn't wake up, she would have been dead, and we would never would have had svu. Oh.
- [54:16]
Des
Do you know one thing I love about Mariska Hargitay? Do you know that she met her husband on the set of Law and Order?
- [54:23]
Giggler
Wait, he's hot.
- [54:24]
Des
He's so hot. She tells this story where, like, her friends were like, you're never going to meet anyone. Like, you don't go out. Like, you have to go out. Like, you have to put yourself out there. And she was like, no. Like, literally, I'm not. Like, I'll meet someone. Like, they were like, he's not going to just, like, walk into your life. And she said literally, when she saw her husband, like, walk onto set, she was like, that's my husband.
- [54:45]
Giggler
What's so spectacular about this documentary, too, is because she has very complicated relationship with her mom. She doesn't remember her, but when you grow up with a famous mom, there's tons of footage and tons of magazine articles. And what she was always told is, don't read what they say about your mom. It's not true. Which it's giving. Don't watch mom's tiktoks. That's not her legacy.
- [55:10]
Des
Oh, my God.
- [55:12]
Giggler
But she realizes that the mom and the boys talking.
- [55:16]
Des
Wait, can I just say? One of the bits on my family vacation that people are just saying and then laughing about is that I'm a New York Times bestselling author.
- [55:25]
Giggler
That is so your family. To be like, you know, it's hilarious that you're. You're a New York Times bestselling. Are you loser?
- [55:38]
Des
It's so my family coded. My mom looks at me and goes, I mean, really, Are you, though?
- [55:46]
Giggler
They will keep you humble.
- [55:47]
Des
They will. They keep me down to the ground. Okay?
- [55:50]
Giggler
No one brings it up in my family. And if it is brought up, someone goes, and your mom wrote it.
- [55:58]
Des
No one takes me seriously.
- [56:00]
Giggler
No one takes me seriously either. So, yeah, her mom, the brother was saying that she would put on a voice in interviews that wasn't like, his mom, which was her being, like, dumb.
- [56:11]
Des
Blonde and cute Persona.
- [56:14]
Giggler
Yes. And the interviews were so annoying. Like, but the men just wanted to, like, sexualize her, obviously. And that's what was working for her. She wanted to be a serious actor. It wasn't working. Da, da, da. I don't want to give it away, but if you watch the end, Mariska also learns stuff about who she is. And her mom that she didn't expect. And she goes through all these emotions of, like, do I hate my mom? Am I mad at my mom? Do I love my mom? And then by the end, you realize that they are so similar, and it's, like, really beautiful and emotional. You're gonna wait.
- [56:52]
Des
I can't wait to watch. I'm so behind on all my shows. I'm behind on Love Island. My new show. Buccaneers started. I'm behind. Gilded Age started. I mean, it's. It's just too much. I can't get through anymore.
- [57:04]
Grace
It's good.
- [57:04]
Giggler
It means you're having fun on vacation.
- [57:06]
Des
No, I actually. I'm, like, finally relaxing. Like, it took. It takes me, like, a couple days on vacation to get relaxed.
- [57:16]
Giggler
It took me, like, three weeks out here before I finally was like, yeah, like, not a cat scared. Waking up in the morning.
- [57:24]
Des
Like, no. And, like, this is. I mean, this is the first year that I don't have to, like, go and, like, pack and go film and.
- [57:33]
Giggler
Plan and, like, no, I pre strategize. And then the next documentary you guys have to watch on hbo, Barbara Walters.
- [57:45]
Des
Oh, wow. Wait, I didn't even know they were doing one on her.
- [57:48]
Giggler
Neither did I. As two women who interview people and who are journalists, it's so fascinating because the times were so different back then. First of all, being a woman in the news wasn't a thing. They were like, women aren't gonna give the news. I'm not listening to the news. From a lady. That was like, literally. Which is hilarious, because I never asked my dad what's going on? And my mom's texting me a hundred times, like, you're gonna die if you eat the cabbage from Trader Joe's.
- [58:20]
Des
Wait, I. Can I just say I remember. I remember being little and seeing Barbara Walters come on, like, the screen, like, for the first time, like, when I was little. And can I just say, she used to scare the out.
- [58:34]
Giggler
I was gonna say, if you saw Barbara Walters on the screen, someone was in trouble.
- [58:38]
Des
Like, anytime she'd come up on the screen, I would just, like, immediately. I was one of those men. I was like, I'm not gonna listen to the news from this lady, because I do not like.
- [58:50]
Giggler
So she basically inspired everyone. Like, yeah, And Hoda and, like, Katie Couric. Oh, Katie, our girl.
- [59:01]
Des
Yeah.
- [59:02]
Giggler
Said the funniest thing that Barbara went up to her once and was like, you remind me of me, because we're not that pretty. Okay. Just call me Miranda. Okay, Paige.
- [59:15]
Des
Oh, my God.
- [59:16]
Giggler
I think she was, like, referring to, like, a lot of the girls on the news or just, like, like, were, like, picked because they were models or actresses. Where, like, Barbara was like, I'm really. I'm smart. I'm an. Yeah. Real journalist. But then it talks about her, like, jealousy with Diane Sawyer, when Diane Sawyer came into the game because Diane was, like, younger and blonde. And it is kind of crazy how it doesn't matter how successful you are. Life is about perspective. And you could either make it like, this one person is coming for me, or you can, like, be grateful for what you have. Type of mental health moment.
- [59:55]
Des
Yeah. Well, I will say for how much we decenter men and we think that they are, like, the root of all the problems, which, like, they usually are. But no one hates on a woman more than another woman.
- [60:06]
Giggler
I thought you could say than herself.
- [60:09]
Des
No. Well, that's. Honestly, that's a close second. Yeah, but, like, all of your mean comments are from, like, men don't ever comment mean on. It's all women.
- [60:19]
Giggler
Men don't take down other men.
- [60:22]
Des
No, they don't.
- [60:24]
Giggler
No, they should, but, like, no, they stick together.
- [60:29]
Des
Yeah. And only time a woman's getting torn down is like, another woman's making the video doing the comment. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, but that's very interesting.
- [60:40]
Giggler
Oprah talks about how Barbara Walters was amazing at networking. So it was all about your relationships with people. So when something would happen, that person would then get, you know, fruit baskets from every single news station and they had decide, who are we giving the interview to? Nowadays, there's no, like, the interview because everyone has social media. But back then, it was like popcorn television. The Monica Lewinsky interview. Who's interviewing her? And back then, journalism was more like, if you do an interview, you have to get hard questions. It can't just be like a. I.
- [61:13]
Des
Mean, Barbara Walters was a Barbara Walters, definitely.
- [61:17]
Giggler
Looking back. Like, she said some crazy. She looked at crazy. She looked at Bette Midler, and she was like, from 1 to 10, how attractive do you think you are?
- [61:27]
Des
No, she said some outlandish, but she.
- [61:32]
Giggler
Was amazing at getting people. Like, she would settle them in and then, like, out of nowhere, get them with a zinger where they, like, weren't prepared.
- [61:41]
Des
Imagine her. Imagine her hosting Secret Lives of Mormon Wives reunion.
- [61:52]
Giggler
That's where your brain went. Give her.
- [61:55]
Des
I immediately went to what reunion should she host? We can't replace Andy. That would be amazing.
- [62:05]
Giggler
And then what's cool about her is as she got older, when the industry was kind of like, we're over you. You know, she created the View.
- [62:15]
Des
Yeah. I actually did know that it extended.
- [62:18]
Giggler
Her career by, like, at least 15 years. And she was like, I want to do a talk show of women of multiple generations. So, I mean, she's a badass. They did also say that she prioritized work over everything, including, like, everything.
- [62:31]
Des
Child.
- [62:32]
Giggler
Having a child. Oh, yeah. Her child. She did have a child, but she. Oh, you know about Barbara.
- [62:37]
Des
I know about. Yeah, I know about Barbara a little bit.
- [62:40]
Giggler
Yeah.
- [62:41]
Des
So I think, honestly, I know about her because I. She used to scare me. Like, I had to know it. That if I ever come into contact with Barbara Walters, I had to be prepared.
- [62:55]
Giggler
Stop, drop, and roll. Don't make any movements.
- [63:00]
Des
You know what's interesting? I'm part of the problem because I actually did enjoy Diane Sawyer a little bit more than Barbara Walton.
- [63:07]
Giggler
Also. You probably the problem because you're hating on her right now. Another woman hating another woman. There we go.
- [63:13]
Des
Dead.
- [63:15]
Giggler
Okay. Don't call her that.
- [63:16]
Des
Sorry. Sorry. And that was the ultimate insult. And I didn't mean that. That's actually. That was too dark. But I just meant, like, she's not gonna know that I'm saying this.
- [63:24]
Giggler
Yeah, she's gonna know. I mean, her spirit lingers on. Speaking of reunions and stuff, what do you think about Donna Kelsey on the Traders?
- [63:35]
Des
If she wants to do it? Amazing. I'm hoping, though, that someone, like, fully explained what she just signed up for, because I'm, like, elder abuse. I picture her as just, like, a nice, regular, like, mom, like, who.
- [63:51]
Giggler
I would never let my mother do reality tv. I do think Traders is, like, not as bad as, like, a traditional show, but, like, leave my mom alone. They're going to. I haven't watched. But don't they make them do, like, crazy things?
- [64:06]
Des
You're doing, like, challenges can tell us.
- [64:09]
Giggler
Taylor Swift just cut her a check and be like, stay home, Relax.
- [64:12]
Des
You want to know what the craziest part is? Is with Traders, you're going there, they're taking all of your stuff. Like, you don't have a phone. You don't have a computer, because they don't want you guys ever to be able to, like, contact each other. But it's like, okay, like, maybe they.
- [64:30]
Giggler
She's a mom.
- [64:31]
Des
I don't see people, like, not following that rule. Especially, like, you're getting paid to be on a show.
- [64:36]
Giggler
Yeah.
- [64:37]
Des
And you can't, like, you have no connection to the outside world, so you can't ever, like, call home. You can't watch TV at night.
- [64:46]
Giggler
Because she's a mom. She has like fully 40 year old children.
- [64:51]
Des
And that's why I wouldn't do it. Like, I'm not doing that. I'm not. Not watch watching my shows for three weeks.
- [65:00]
Giggler
Wait, you can't watch tv?
- [65:02]
Des
No, because it's like you're in Scotland and like what team they don't have in Scotland.
- [65:07]
Giggler
Yeah.
- [65:07]
Des
And you're gonna watch the local TV in Scotland. What are you watching?
- [65:12]
Giggler
You're like, I can't speak Scottish. I'm not. I don't know what's going on. A translator?
- [65:17]
Des
No, I just like, I'm. I'm at an age where I can't be uncomfortable. I really can't. I so resonate with that. Resonate with that. I can't be uncomfy.
- [65:27]
Giggler
It's an interesting. For me, I understand if she, like. Yeah, I actually don't understand because if it's a money thing, it's like us like your sons are doing great.
- [65:36]
Des
Unless she's just like a huge fan of the show and someone was like, you should do it. And she was like, I would love to do it maybe.
- [65:43]
Giggler
But again, like, I think even if I'm a huge fan of something, doesn't mean I want to do it.
- [65:49]
Des
Yeah. Like, let's give an example.
- [65:51]
Giggler
Hey, let's play this game. Let's give an example. What? I'm a huge fan that I don't want to do. Like, I never wanted to do the Bachelor. Even though I used to love the Bachelor. I never wanted to be a contestant.
- [66:00]
Des
Because I was like, I could never.
- [66:01]
Giggler
I'm not fighting over a man, but I will watch people fight over a man. But now I don't anymore because it's, it's too much.
- [66:08]
Des
In the Jersey Shore cast murder documentaries.
- [66:12]
Giggler
I love watching murder.
- [66:13]
Des
Never. But I love them.
- [66:14]
Giggler
I love watching murder, but I wouldn't murder someone. I love you. No reaction to that one. You were like, yeah.
- [66:23]
Des
That'S a good one.
- [66:24]
Giggler
I'm a huge fan of culture.
- [66:27]
Des
Huge fan of cults.
- [66:28]
Giggler
Bringing up the Bachelor. I do have one piece of advice.
- [66:31]
Des
Okay.
- [66:32]
Giggler
For dating. As someone who's so out of the dating game, like, I don't even know what's going on. I used to love strategy, as you did too. Right. We loved a little game and I was recently thinking of like, it's always hard with texting in the beginning, like how you should text. And this girl was talking to me, she's like, like, you never want to like text too much. But then are you Texting too little. And I was like, you know what I think you should do? You know when you're texting your friend and, like, the last word, the autocorrect it up? That happens to me a lot. Like, I'm trying to say something and I keep it up and, like, clearly I'm just texting, like, chaos. I think that's how you should text a guy you like. Like, you don't care about the text so much that you're spelling everything wrong. And then you're, like, blowing his phone up, trying to spell it right, and he's like, wow, this girl does not give a about me.
- [67:23]
Des
If there's one thing I feel like I've learned in all of my dating, especially now being in my 30s, rules are made up. We made the we as women made them up to, like, not to, like, rationalize certain things. If he's obsessed with you, he's going to be obsessed with you. From the moment he meets you. You could do literally anything. He does not give a flying. If he is, like, in it, he's in it. And if he's not, he's not. And if he's not, that's not your husband, babe.
- [67:56]
Giggler
Honestly, period, I have nothing to say. Like, that was perfect.
- [67:59]
Des
Like, period.
- [68:01]
Giggler
Slay boots down. Ground mic drop. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Well, thank you guys so much for giggling with us this week. We have a new. Oh, my God, it just came out, right? Our new YouTube. We painted each other's faces, and you guys are never gonna know how. How it went unless you watch.
- [68:24]
Des
And we're not gonna have Giggly Squad next week. We just want to prepare. You guys. We're taking next week off.
- [68:30]
Giggler
We couldn't do this one without Duncan. Thank you for fueling the fun.
- [68:40]
Paige
I use UberEats for everything, and of course, I'm ordering food all the time.
- [68:44]
Giggler
I.
- [68:45]
Paige
But I don't just order food on Uber Eats. I order everything. I order from the pharmacy. I order hair care items. I order alcohol. Whatever I need, I'm ordering it on Uber Eats. Also, whenever I go to a hotel, I always seem to forget something from home. So I'm ordering hairspray, I'm ordering bobby pins. I just can't live without Uber Eats. You can get grocery alcohol and everyday essentials in addition to restaurants and food you love, of course. So in other words, get almost. Almost anything with Uber Eats. Order now for alcohol, you must be legal drinking age, so please enjoy responsibly. Product availability varies by region. See app for details.
- [69:30]
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