Giggling about wackness, piercings, and lavender marriages

Summary

Giggly Squad Podcast

Episode: "Giggling about wackness, piercings, and lavender marriages"

Hosts: Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo
Release Date: December 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Hannah and Paige take listeners on a classic Giggly Squad ride: irreverent, playful, and sometimes unexpectedly deep. They riff on nostalgic vocabulary (“wack”), fashion trends, pop culture—like the continuing obsession with Rob Kardashian and twin TikToks—generational changes in women’s lives, and the concept of "lavender marriages." The conversation jumps from chaotic Thanksgiving family stories to funny run-ins with Uber Eats, self-deprecating dating gripes, piercing adventures, communal female living fantasies, and classic banter about cats and dogs. As ever, they blend humor, candid storytelling, and a bit of life wisdom (with plenty of giggling).

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Wackness Comeback

[06:11 - 08:30]

• Hannah calls out Paige (playfully) for saying her computer is "acting whack," leading to a nostalgic appreciation for the word "wack."
• They discuss its versatility (“men act whack, outfits are whack, vibes are whack”) and ponder whether it’s a NY or millennial thing.
• Hannah: “If you want to go real crazy, you go, that shit’s whack. If you want to be a real New York sneaker head, wait, she’s so whack.”
  [06:39]
• Fashion terms come up— how adjectives cycle in pop culture and fashion (the “major”/“mage” phenomenon).

2. Thanksgiving, Toast, and Lavender Marriages

[08:33 - 13:16]

• Anna tells a story about her family's unconventional Thanksgiving, including her dad's obsession with literal toast.
• The main dinner debate becomes the idea of “lavender marriages”—hetero marriages where one or both partners are gay, sometimes done for companionship, family-building, or economic ease.
• Anna describes explaining the concept to a (confused) gay man, and Hannah adds her humorous confusion.
• Anna: “... More women are choosing a stable home with their gay bestie ... It is economically efficient in some cases ...”
• It sparks a (lighthearted) confrontation and launches a tangent on changing norms: women having more agency and options.

3. Generational Change for Women

[21:12 - 25:30]

• Hannah shares her family's Thanksgiving and the shocking realization that her Nana grew up without a bed or hot water.
• The hosts reflect on how different women’s choices are today, and joke about their own (relative) modern comfort.
• Hannah: “... she had to get married so they could get a shower ... I get it. I would get married too if I didn’t have hot water.”
  [24:32]
• Gratitude for living in modern times comes up, complete with jokes about surviving historical eras with their health issues.

4. Women’s Communes and Alternative Families

[15:12 - 17:41]

• Inspired by the lavender marriage debate, Hannah and Anna riff on what it would be like if they just created a communal living situation—raising kids together, sharing responsibilities, and living in a “feminine commune.”
• Hannah: “Sometimes... they're just moving in with their girlfriends, getting sperm, having kids, and then, like, co-parenting all the babies in, like, a beautiful, just, like, feminine commune.”
• Anna: “I froze my eggs ... if I felt like that, I would be so fine to do that.”

5. Fashion, Holiday Gifting, and Beauty Faves

[17:45 - 20:42]

• Paige and Hannah exchange makeup gifts, talk about their favorite products (holy grail Charlotte Tilbury setting spray, Hourglass palettes, love of blush) and shop talk about packaging.
• Hannah: “You know someone likes a gift when they start using it immediately.”
  [19:56]
• They joke about how gift-giving always spirals for them— “Every year we promise to keep it simple, but ... we just love to give each other gifts.”

6. Piercings, Punk Phases, & Generational Style

[34:18 - 38:16]

• Paige and Hannah reminisce about the era when having your ear pierced was rebellious, share family stories of parents yanking out earrings, and discuss their own ear piercings.
• Hannah (joking): “My mom wouldn’t let me hang out with you if you came in with fucking piercings up to your forehead.”
  [35:59]
• The conversation expands to daring piercings (nipple stories), the influencer vibe of being “cool” with tattoos and rings, but admitting they’re not that brave at heart.

7. Social Stumbles: Weed, Dinners, and Making Friends

[39:26 - 43:15]

• Hannah recounts feeling like an uncool teen when, at an influencer dinner, someone invites her to smoke weed and she declines.
• They commiserate about social anxiety and the desire to be included even when you don’t want to participate.
• Hannah: “Do I want friends? No. But do I want them to want to be my friend? Yes.” [42:16]
• Paige supports Hannah’s sincerity and shares “you don’t have to smoke weed to have fun,” running theme of being misunderstood.

8. Uber Eats Hotel Anxiety & Embarrassing Moments

[43:30 - 47:34]

• Hannah recounts an anxiety spiral getting Uber Eats at a hotel called “Grumpy Gringo” and refusing to say the restaurant name at the desk out of embarrassment.
• Both share how hotel food pick-up feels “illegal” and cite irrational worries about looking suspicious while waiting for takeout.

9. Pop Culture: Rob Kardashian, Ozempic, Nashville, and Twin TikToks

[33:04 - 56:17]

• Anna starts a pop culture rant about how she wants “skinny Rob Kardashian back,” reflects on 2009-2012 Rob as her “exact type,” and the resurgence of earrings as “bad boy” indicators.
• They briefly touch on the “Ozempic era” jokes about Rob potentially being on it, and their mutual affection for old-school Kardashian content.
• Later, they discuss their “K hole” with the TV show Nashville and their mutual TikTok feed obsession with twins—marveling at why the algorithm thinks they want twin content, and how watching one cat video changes your “For You” page for weeks.

10. Dog People, Cat People, and Unpopular Opinions

[63:49 - 65:24]

• Anna jokes that “coming out as a dog hater in 2025 is like coming out of the closet in the 1950s.”
• Hannah details an encounter with a bulldog, noting the awkwardness cat people feel around dogs—"as if someone wants to shake your hand and you being like, no thank you."
• They discuss “dog etiquette” (“imagine if your dog jumped on me and I went, no”).

11. Personal Health: Chronic UTIs, Not Getting Sick, and Self-Care

[61:22 - 63:04]

• Anna, self-proclaimed queen of chronic UTIs, jokes about her struggles and the compassion she receives at home—“My mom, like, literally brought me toast.”
• Both reflect on how rarely they get sick and attribute it to lifestyle choices (small friend groups, etc.), while poking fun at themselves.

12. Announcements & New Year Tease

[59:30 - 60:52]

• The squad is teasing something “fun” coming with the new year—no details given, but classic millennial move: “I love old school marketing.”
• They debate potentially changing the recording day, as Mondays (especially with Hannah on tour) are tough for storytelling energy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Anna, on “wack”:
  “It's such a good describing word for so many different genres of your life. Like, I've said it about so many men's behavior. Like, he literally was just acting whack.” [06:49]

• Hannah, on generational living:
  “She had to get married so they could get a shower... I get it. I would get married too if I didn’t have hot water.” [24:02]

• Hannah, on alternative families:
  “Imagine if me and you never met anyone. They're just moving in with their girlfriends, getting sperm, having kids, and then co-parenting all the babies in a beautiful, feminine commune." [15:57]

• Anna, on piercings rebellion:
  “I'm pretty sure my brother got his ears pierced one time in high school, and I'm pretty sure my mom literally, I'm not kidding, physically ripped them out of his head.” [34:51]

• Paige, on wanting to be wanted:
  “Do I want friends? No. But do I want them to want to be my friend? Yes.” [42:16]

• Anna, on unpopular opinions:
  “Coming out as a dog hater in 2025 is like coming out of the closet in the 1950s.” [63:49]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [06:11] – The “whack” word deep dive
• [08:33] – Thanksgiving chaos and lavender marriage debate
• [13:16] – Reality TV fight aftermath and conflict avoidance
• [15:12] – Creating the feminist commune fantasy
• [21:12] – Nana’s childhood and how women’s lives have shifted
• [34:18] – Piercing stories and rebellion
• [39:26] – Social awkwardness and weed pen dinner faux pas
• [43:30] – Uber Eats hotel saga
• [52:18] – Hannah’s TV “Nashville” obsession and TikTok twin rabbit holes
• [63:49] – The “dog hater” joke and pet preferences

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Tone and Vibe

The episode is classic Giggly Squad: peppered with inside jokes, playful digs, and self-deprecating honesty. Hannah and Paige are unfiltered, silly, and candid, blending pop-culture analysis, nostalgia, social commentary, and stories about their personal neuroses. The conversation is rapid-fire, often looping back and forth, with a strong undertone of supportive friendship and a running gag about how “unhinged” the last hour has been.

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Summary for the Uninitiated

If you haven’t listened, this episode is a quintessential Giggly Squad experience: Hannah and Paige riff on everything from retro lingo to deep generational differences, offer up hilarious family stories, analyze TikTok microtrends, and drop influencer-level beauty tips—all while making fun of themselves and each other. Heartfelt moments on female independence and support are balanced with pure goofiness (hotel food pick-up shame, weed-related social rejection, and thoughts on new year resolutions). You’ll leave feeling like you just sat in on a wild group chat—“radicalized” by giggles, not politics.

Transcript

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Grace]

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Grace]

Sup, Gigglers? Gary, fix your wi fi.

[Hannah]

Manifest that shit. We can't be managed.

[Grace]

I mean, the day just got away from me.

[Hannah]

Hello, my Galactic Gigglers.

[Anna]

I feel like we use that one all the time, and I don't know what it says about us, but whatever.

[Hannah]

We. We used it every week. We said galactic, you go, boo. Same one as last time.

[Anna]

You just think that, like, we'd come up with something after five years.

[Hannah]

Well, for some reason, God forbid, I, like, take some time to research the G word. But also, like, are we Joe Rogan?

[Anna]

It pops up on you every time, talking about aliens.

[Hannah]

Yeah, well, I like to be psychic about it. Like, what comes to me in the moment. Can I just call you out real quick?

[Anna]

I mean, we're two. We're literally like a minute and 14 seconds in. But sure, that's exactly how I wanted to start. Like the Monday back to work after a holiday week.

[Hannah]

Have at it fucking day. No, it's actually. It's a compliment. It's a compliment.

[Anna]

Oh, okay, then. You know what?

[Hannah]

Please, the floor is yours. So obviously we, like. It takes us forever to, like, get on at the same time to record this pod. You know, I had food coming, then Paige had food coming, then whatever.

[Anna]

When we're virtual, it's like.

[Hannah]

It's.

[Anna]

It's literally we're in college and we have to do a group project. Yeah, we're like, wait, that's so crazy because Billie actually just texted me back and, like, invited me over, and so, like, I have to go.

[Hannah]

Our group leader, Grace, is not here. So me and you are like, do we do it? Is it even due? Do you want to Double check when it's due.

[Anna]

Actually, the weather is supposed to be really bad tomorrow, so we're probably getting a snow day anyway. So, like, it doesn't actually matter.

[Hannah]

Did you see how windy it was outside? I think a monsoon is about to hit. No, we. Well, we finally got it together and then you're taking, like, forever because you're like, I'm feeling. Wait.

[Anna]

Will we ever feel the happiness you felt in college where you knew the next day was a snow day?

[Hannah]

No.

[Anna]

Like, I don't think I've ever felt that level of, like, relief, excitement, happiness.

[Hannah]

Well, there's also the tension of, like, do you know, like, the couple hours where it starts going around? Like, it could be a snow day. It could be a snow day. And you're asking around. You're like, you're turning into a meteorologist. You're, like, checking the. I'm on some website I've never been on before with, like, blue, like, fucking signage.

[Anna]

I'm immediately planning my outfit. I'm like, are we going apresky chic or are we going comfy cozy? Like, that was always my.

[Hannah]

No, because you're like, do I have to study for eight hours or not? Like, tell me right now. Also, were you the one that said to me that you wanted to be a meteorologist but you didn't know that actually had to be scientists? That's the funny way. I don't know where we were. We were like, about to go on live TV or something, and you just go, do you know I wanted to do this until I learned you had to actually be a scientist, which is berserk.

[Anna]

It's literally that tick tock sound when it's like you spend too much time with the same person. It's like the ancient Romans believed that, okay, I for, like, my whole life was like, I'm gonna be a news anchor. And then once I saw, like, a meteorologist who had, like, a pretty outfit on, I was like, actually going to be sold. Done. Are you kidding?

[Hannah]

Well, also, they, like, kind of seem like they do the least work. Like, but they're really important.

[Anna]

They're on for four minutes, but they're so important.

[Hannah]

And they have star quality.

[Anna]

People wait for the weather. Yes.

[Hannah]

They're like, weather in 10 minutes. And everyone's like, and you could be wrong and no one cares. It's perfect for you. You could literally up every time and they'd be like, it's the weather. You never know.

[Anna]

I could come back the next day and be like, oops, my bad.

[Hannah]

No, Can I just say, like, why can't they find one nerdy person to just tell the meteorologist what to say?

[Anna]

Well, essentially, I feel like it is. Essentially every, like, meteorologist is logging on to, like, software to, like, track storms. And I think they're, like, sharing information the way, like, the news station share other information, like news stories. So I think they. I think it is, like, a one big collab.

[Hannah]

Okay. Yeah, but I.

[Anna]

But it is. You have to know science. And I. I was like, you know what, guys?

[Hannah]

I famously caused a lot of drama in college when we all talk this. Took this weather class that was supposed to be easy with, like, nimbus clouds and stuff. Turns out the hardest class ever. All of us failed. And then it was a whole thing. But, like, clouds are really fucking confusing. Like, no. Like, it's like, I almost didn't make it through that class. Oh, yeah. So this is what I'm mad at you about.

[Anna]

Oh, yeah. Oh, we got so sidetracked.

[Hannah]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. So you're like. Like, nowhere to be found after. She's like, I'm ready right now. And then I, like, send her the link, and she's nowhere to be found. So then I always go, like, are you okay? And she goes, sorry, my computer is acting whack right now. And I go, wait, bring back whack.

[Anna]

I don't think I ever stopped.

[Hannah]

It is the best word ever.

[Anna]

I feel like I say whack all the time. It's in my everyday jargon.

[Hannah]

And if you want to go real crazy, you go, that shit's whack. If you want to be a real New York sneaker head, wait, she's so whack.

[Anna]

Because here's the thing. It's such a good describing word for so many different genres of your life. Like, I've said it about so many men's behavior. Like, he literally was just acting whack.

[Hannah]

Whack.

[Anna]

Like, the vibes are all. It was just, like, insane.

[Hannah]

Also, you don't have to speak English. And you know what whack means? Like, whack. You know what that word means? It transcends cultures, I guess.

[Anna]

Is that such a millennial term?

[Hannah]

I think it's a New York term. Oh. But I also, like, could be completely wrong because I've never left New York. Wait, what else do you use whack for?

[Anna]

Like, outfits? Like.

[Hannah]

If someone's appearance.

[Anna]

If Joan Rivers was born in 1992, she would have definitely said wack.

[Hannah]

That shit's whack also.

[Anna]

Yeah, like, that's Just like, a whack outfit. Like, what the fuck is going on here?

[Hannah]

Can I call out fashion people for a second? They're running out of adjectives, and you know how they get, like, really into one. You remember when everyone said major for.

[Anna]

Like, two years, and then people shortened it to mage?

[Hannah]

That's mage. And they'd be. You could be talking about literally, like, a sandal or like, a full Prada outfit, and they'd just be like, that's major.

[Anna]

I feel like that was, like, Rachel Zo effect. Wait, I'm like, really? On a ginger ale kick.

[Hannah]

Oh, good for you. Shout out Canada Dry. We love Canada. We love. Big fan of Canada. Big fan of your work.

[Grace]

Okay.

[Anna]

What were we just saying?

[Hannah]

Oh, I was. I was just saying whack is a great word and we should use it more.

[Anna]

Yeah, no, it is a really good word.

[Hannah]

How was your Thanksgiving?

[Anna]

My Thanksgiving was really fun. I do. I would like to report that our Family Feud annual Family Feud Girls won again. It's like, four years in a row. It's like, it's embarrassing at this point.

[Hannah]

It's not fair.

[Anna]

The biggest debate of Thanksgiving, and this wasn't even, like, in my immediate family, it was just, like, bystanders and, like.

[Hannah]

Because you let random people in on Thanksgiving, your Thanksgiving, you let. You have a doors open policy on Thanksgiving. Like, anyone who's anyone is joining. Yeah. And Kim loves. Loves it, so.

[Anna]

Kim loves hosting. I didn't realize how much my dad loves toast, and I think that that's something that's come with age. Like, at any moment, he was, like, offering people toast, and I was like.

[Hannah]

Oh, not like, doing a toast. Like literal bread.

[Anna]

No, like actual sourdough.

[Hannah]

I thought you meant, like, he kept wanting to give all these nice speeches.

[Anna]

Oh, God, no. That is the opposite of my dad's personality. He would never do that. That's insane. He'd need seven beta blockers for that. I don't even think he's gonna be able to talk at my wedding. It's a whole topic of discussion anyway, so one of the big topics of discussion that was lavender marriage. And I was explaining to a male what lavender marriage was a gay man. I think that's important for this story. No, I think that's important because a straight man. There was a straight man sitting on the side who said, why is it called lavender? And I was like, an actual excellent question. I have no idea what the answer is to that, but we both think it's pretty.

[Hannah]

I was going to say because straight men don't know, shades of color. And lavender is a shade of purple. Like, maybe no straight guy would see purple and be like, that's lavender.

[Grace]

Correct.

[Anna]

So the female side of the argument was saying that lavender marriages have become more and more prevalent because women in our age group, it's the first time ever that we're surpassing men in our age group. Like, we make more money, we graduate college more, we own more houses, things like that. And then it's harder to find a partner that you feel like has all of those things or is at least working toward all of those things and is also emotionally intelligent, like, to your level, like, whatever. Like, yes, there's an argument that you could date older or younger, whatever, but not younger.

[Hannah]

Not younger?

[Anna]

No, not younger. That wouldn't really work. So we were explaining that more women. And yes, we're still on a biological clock, that more women are choosing a stable home with their gay bestie, having obviously different sexual partners. But, like, he's the dad, she's the mom. They're always together. They do family things together. But it is economically efficient in some cases to be married. So it's like, why don't we do life together, make it easier for us financially. We can have the family we wanted. Like, we have biological children, but, like, we date other people.

[Hannah]

Like, wait, I thought lavender marriage was when you didn't really know if he was gay, but everyone else is, like, he's gay. Like, he doesn't know he's gay.

[Anna]

Maybe that's it. But we turned it into something.

[Hannah]

I was like, I had never heard of this.

[Anna]

Listen, we were a couple lines deep. We were. We're like, what can we talk about that's religious, but not too religious.

[Hannah]

Not too religious.

[Anna]

That's a bit political, but not too political. Too political. And that's where we landed.

[Hannah]

And we. People walked out.

[Anna]

People walked out. So that. So the guy that we were exposed explaining that I was explaining this to said, okay, I understand. My argument is, don't you want more for yourself? And we were like, well, of course we want to meet someone that you get all of those things and you're also romantically involved. But sometimes it's give and take. You don't have enough time. It's like, certain situations happen, and he couldn't get past that. Like, we would immediately resort to some type of lavender marriage. And so words were exchanged.

[Hannah]

And then.

[Anna]

Turkey legs were brought into it. It was. Someone hit a turkey leg. And then that was. That was a response. At some point.

[Hannah]

It was. It's like someone Took it a little too personally.

[Matt Rogers]

Someone.

[Hannah]

Someone didn't realize they were in a lavender marriage.

[Anna]

One thing I did realize though, I think this is like my first, I don't even want to say confrontation because it legitimately was not even like a real confrontation.

[Hannah]

Also, defin. It wasn't your first.

[Anna]

No, I'm saying it genuinely, I think was my first post being on reality tv.

[Hannah]

Oh yeah, Post reality tv. Yeah.

[Anna]

I had an outof body experience.

[Hannah]

Oh, when, when your heart like started to.

[Anna]

Oh my God, they're arguing. And I immediately my first thought, look for cameras.

[Hannah]

Is there music playing?

[Anna]

Make sure like, wait, my hair, my hair is still up.

[Hannah]

Well, that's the thing. Whenever there's something you know is going to make a good scene, you always were like, I have the best outfit for this fight.

[Anna]

Oh, I love doing that. No, but I immediately, my first thought was like, oh, let me jump in and explain what each side is meaning to say because I see where it's getting lost in transition.

[Hannah]

You started a confessional in your closet.

[Anna]

And then I go, wait a minute. I actually don't have to say a God damn thing. I sat there, I said, mom, I think I will have a slice of apple pie and.

[Hannah]

Like move to back and enjoy.

[Anna]

I was like, what a debate. How fun.

[Hannah]

But I think it's important for people to understand reality TV where like as someone who's like was like, okay, we're in it. We're fighting. We're. We're fighting again. We're fight. The fights are keep going. I literally haven't had one friend fight since.

[Anna]

Right, me neither.

[Hannah]

I'm not being dramatic and it's been like four years.

[Anna]

Maybe we should like schedule a fight between you and I to get at.

[Hannah]

Least like a boxing match, something, get something out. I mean, I feel like every giggly squad is like its own form of mind gymnastics.

[Grace]

So true.

[Anna]

We really make you think on this pod.

[Hannah]

We really do not to radicalize everyone. And to take it a step further.

[Anna]

Wait, that just.

[Hannah]

No, I'm just aware that like we are capable of radicalizing women. And if we were like stone every man right now, they would so like, with that power comes great responsibility. So to want to radicalize people. However, I did read that a lot of women are doing what you explained where they're just like, okay, I feel successful, I feel fulfilled. Married women can be the least happy. Like married men are the most happy. Where married women, like are making the least money. Whatever. Some of them like, imagine if me and you never met anyone. They're just moving in with their girlfriends, getting sperm, having kids, and then, like, co parenting all the babies in, like, a beautiful, just like, feminine commune.

[Anna]

Using the same sperm.

[Hannah]

Not the same necessarily, but, like, we'd get pregnant, we move into a mansion, and then just like, like sometimes I, I, I could breastfeed your baby if you're sleeping. Like, we're just, like, taking care of everything. Why did I go there?

[Anna]

Anna and Paige try new things based on a whole different era. Imagine one day we just have a YouTube channel, and it's turned into you breastfeeding my baby. I think there's, like, a few steps that I took a way different turn than I've ever intended on taking because that is so crazy.

[Hannah]

Back in the day, the women would, like, communally raise the children. Like, the children were the tribes, you know?

[Anna]

Totally. So it's a village.

[Hannah]

It takes a village. I think we're recreating, like, women villages because it's like, if your man is not an asset and if he's actually, like, ruining the vibes and then it happens to a couple people, you're like, hey, why don't we just. We're making money. Come together. It's an option.

[Anna]

I mean, I froze my eggs, so if I was, like, in my 40s and I felt like that I would be so fine to do that. Like, yeah, I would do that.

[Hannah]

There is something so chic about, like, at 44, just, like, smoking a cig and being like, I'm going to have a baby. I'm going to have one baby.

[Anna]

Being 44 and having one daughter in.

[Hannah]

New York City, that was a thing. Like, growing up, I had a lot of friends whose moms were, like, 80. And then I realized, like, oh, she was like, the CEO of some, like, huge tech company that, like, randomly was like, okay, I need, like, I'll have, like, a little baby, I guess. Like 50. Yeah. And they're always, like, badass and they wear great clothes.

[Paige Desorbo]

Okay, guys, we're back with a round two of holiday gift swap.

[Hannah]

Because I don't believe you should just have round one. You can do as many as you want.

[Paige Desorbo]

And Ulta Beauty also believes that we should have multiple gifts.

[Hannah]

And there's just so many options at Ulta Beauty. They have the classics, they have the.

[Anna]

New stuff, and there's things that I.

[Paige Desorbo]

Want you to try.

[Hannah]

Okay.

[Anna]

There's things I think you need. I have recommendations. I have comments, thoughts, and concerns. So please open my gift.

[Paige Desorbo]

Yeah, this is gonna help you.

[Hannah]

Charlotte Tilbury setting spray party all night. Stay all Day.

[Paige Desorbo]

No, it's the Holy Grail.

[Hannah]

This reminds me of when we do, like, a show. We'd have two shows in one night, and after the first show, all my makeup would be off. No.

[Anna]

When I tell you that Hannah's face is so oily. No, it just, like, rejects.

[Paige Desorbo]

It's like, sorry, not me. Not now. Like, I'm not wearing eyeliner anymore.

[Anna]

I'm actually gonna take it off myself after the show.

[Hannah]

I looked like I just woke up in the morning. Like I had nothing on my face.

[Paige Desorbo]

Your skin rebels against you. And you wanna know what else? It actually feels hydrating.

[Anna]

Yes.

[Paige Desorbo]

Like, it doesn't. Like, I've used some setting sprays, and it's like, okay, I just put hairspray.

[Hannah]

All over my face. I've used some that could kill a small horse.

[Paige Desorbo]

I love that Ulta carries Charlotte Tilbury. It's one of my favorite brands for years now.

[Hannah]

I mean, Pillow talk. Hello.

[Paige Desorbo]

Hello. Hello.

[Hannah]

Some respect.

[Paige Desorbo]

Truly.

[Hannah]

Name.

[Anna]

Okay, my turn. Okay.

[Hannah]

A little.

[Anna]

A little palette. Is that a deer?

[Hannah]

It actually is a deer.

[Anna]

Wait, I'm obsessed.

[Hannah]

You love a nice, cute package. I love.

[Paige Desorbo]

I love cute packaging.

[Anna]

It feels, like, safe, and it's like, it actually is its own thing.

[Hannah]

It has kind of a long name. It's the Hourglass Ambient Lighting Edit Unlocked Collection Deer Palette.

[Paige Desorbo]

Oh, my God.

[Hannah]

Or deer. Just kidding. But it's literally gorgeous. It gives you that glow hourglass. I don't know if you know about the brand. They're so high quality.

[Paige Desorbo]

Wait, do you know that I literally swear by their mascara?

[Hannah]

Yeah. They're amazing. And their palettes are so good. This one has bronzing highlighting. Blush. Yes. You know, someone likes a gift when they start using it immediately.

[Anna]

And I like that it's sturdy. This is sturdy.

[Hannah]

Oh, yeah. Like. Cause I'm gonna throw it on the ground a couple times.

[Paige Desorbo]

It's gonna get dropped.

[Hannah]

Drop kit. Show the shades to the camera. Give me credit where credit's due.

[Anna]

Yeah, they're good.

[Hannah]

Gorgeous.

[Paige Desorbo]

And I love blush.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Paige Desorbo]

Like, some people are not big blush.

[Anna]

People, and I don't relate to those people.

[Hannah]

No. I'm so obsessed with blush, and I like to put it, like, on the sides of my head because I saw some TikTok girls do it.

[Paige Desorbo]

Yeah. And it's like, that's how I feel.

[Hannah]

I know. Every year we promise to keep it simple, but we love each other, and we just love to give each other gifts. And makeup and skincare is our favorite thing.

[Anna]

It really is.

[Paige Desorbo]

Because it's something that we can share yes.

[Hannah]

And you can make recommendations to me on how I can change my face, which is one of your favorite things to do. Well, you look out for me.

[Anna]

I do.

[Hannah]

I do. When people don't talk about it enough. So thank you, Ulta Beauty.

[Paige Desorbo]

And this holiday season, don't forget that Ulta Beauty makes it so easy to find the best holiday gifts. They have gift sets, they have skincare, they have makeup. Anything for anyone?

[Hannah]

Any in store on their beauty app, which I'm obsessed with. And online, it's available. This chat was brought to you by Ulta Beauty and Acast Creative Studio. My Thanksgiving there was drama, too.

[Paige Desorbo]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Where? Well, okay, not to be depressing, but we're at this weird time where I don't have kids. My brother has a full family in the Midwest, and my Nat. It's just like, me, does my Nana, Papa, and my mom and dad and then does. Had to go to Ireland. So then I was back. Well, look, I'm the favorite. So I was like, this is what we all want to do, right? I'm like, let's all. We go to a restaurant. I'm like, nana, Papa, you don't have to cook. You're literally 83. And because they want to, I'm like, no. We go to this restaurant, and it was so cute, so nice. My Nana has her sparkly cane. Everyone's loving it. She has her decolletage out. She's complaining.

[Anna]

It's a holiday.

[Hannah]

It's a holiday. She's looking amazing. We're taking selfies in the bathroom. Then my mom goes, you know, it's really important that we ask our elders, like, nana, Papa questions about when they were younger. Like, it's really important.

[Anna]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

I was like, yeah. So she goes, nana, like, what was your bedroom like when you grew up?

[Anna]

What a phenomenal question, right?

[Hannah]

And then goes, I didn't have one. And we're like, what? And she goes, yeah, I just slept on the couch. And we were like, what? And she's like, yeah, we had one bedroom. And we go, but you had two other sisters. Where did they sleep? And she's like, I don't. I don't know. I'm like, nah, did you not have a bed? And then she was like, didn't have hot water either. And we were like, nana, what the fuck?

[Anna]

Wait, where did Nana live?

[Hannah]

Then I turned to Papa, and I'm like, papa? He goes, yeah, we had to boil water and pour it on ourselves. And I was like, what? So we. It started funny, and then we were like. I was like, mom, did you know Nana didn't have a bed growing up? She was like, no. And then Nana goes, I wanted to be. I wanted to be an artist and I wanted to be a Hollywood movie star. But then I was 18, and I. I was 18, I met your papa, and next thing you know, I had three children. That's what you did back then. And everyone was just, like, sitting there inside. This is just two generations. Like, this is.

[Anna]

No, I was just gonna say. And so when people act like, oh, my God, women are, like, rebelling and the reason of the male loneliness epidemic, it's like, no.

[Grace]

We're just.

[Anna]

It's the first time that we're allowed to, like, go outside.

[Hannah]

First time we have a credit card.

[Anna]

No. Like, it's literally the first time we've lived alone, made our own decisions. Like, wait, I love that your auto response when something is awkward or, like, depressing is to immediately laugh.

[Hannah]

No. We were dying laughing. We're like, no. That's so sad. Like, how do we not. Like, my mom didn't know. Her mom grew up like that. But then she had to get married so they could get a shower. So when they got married, they got their own place with a shower and they were like, living large. And I was like, I get it. I would get married too, if I, like, didn't have hot water.

[Anna]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And that.

[Anna]

I've done more for less. I've done so much more for less. It feels like.

[Hannah]

And then I'm thinking about how I, like, complain if I, like, forgot my face wash. Yeah. I'm doing a full 18 step girl shower and I'm mad if, like, my face wash, like, smells weird. No.

[Anna]

There's a lot of times where I think where, like, one of the things I really try and practice in my everyday life because I really, truly feel like it's the key to, like, manifestation is, like, being grateful for things. And one of the things I always am grateful for is that I don't live in any other time period.

[Hannah]

Even though we know that you would have been iconic with, like, Marie Antoinette. Like, totally.

[Anna]

But I'm not making it like I was born in the right time period.

[Hannah]

You'd get a UTI and be out.

[Anna]

No, it's not even. First of all, my UTIs, they would have taken me out. And like, any 18, 17, 16, 1500s, I'm dead. Next. I. No, I just. I wouldn't be able to do it. Like, I wouldn't. No. Like, if I'm uncomfortable, I can't. I literally will have a Panic attack?

[Hannah]

No, but this is the thing, Paige. Do you remember when I brought you to the Best Western and you, you were great. You were scared and you, you were upset, but you thrived. Like, you can deal with more adversity than you think. You just like.

[Anna]

You know what was funny about that night? That you piled me into a room with seven other people and made me.

[Hannah]

Sleep in the middle and a straight man was there.

[Anna]

That was crazy work on your part.

[Hannah]

The.

[Anna]

One of the craziest things about me though is when I do hit some type of adversity, I'm always like, I'm going to be up all night. Like I'm never. I'm immediately out like a light because my body is like truly like we cannot experience this for a second longer. We're putting ourselves to bed.

[Hannah]

Like you lived in a share house for like 10 years every summer. Like you've done, you've done hard things.

[Anna]

And must go to bed. Like because my body was like, I can't. But we can't.

[Hannah]

So yeah, I literally was like, do you remember when Nana grew up living in a cardboard box? So that's like the new thing we're joking about within the family. So like you live and you learn and it was a beautiful like full circle moment to spend with.

[Anna]

No, it really is. Especially because as you're, as her granddaughter, you have put her in so many different things and she's experienced so many things that like.

[Hannah]

Well, that's my thing. Like she's a star. I grew up like walking in a room and everyone looks at her like she is the like Italian Marilyn Monroe of my generation. So she deserves all the attention and she loves it. She loves her fans. She wants to say hi to you guys. I love you. I love my fans. I'm. I'm posting every day with a nice long caption. So yeah, happy holidays.

[Anna]

Okay. Happy holidays. You know what? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Happy holidays. What a way to round that story out. That was crazy. This is not live tv. What the was that?

[Grace]

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Ugh.

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[Anna]

What does it say about us that, like, it's too sad for us that we actually can't physically go there?

[Hannah]

She was four. No. And they had three children in a one bedroom with no heat. And then we all just continued our dinner. I was like, sorry, I ordered the medium rare.

[Anna]

Thinking about Nana as a small child makes me really upset. Wait, what were we just gonna say? I was gonna say.

[Hannah]

You were gonna say what you were gonna say, Right?

[Anna]

Okay. Got it.

[Hannah]

Perfect. You're gonna forget. If you keep laughing, you're gonna forget.

[Matt Rogers]

Stop.

[Anna]

Okay, this is what I was gonna say. In a world full of ozempic.

[Hannah]

Stop it. I didn't do anything.

[Anna]

Stop. In a world full of o. Everyone skinny. I mean, it's actually. It's. That's like a whole separate story. I can't actually truly get into it right now because it's making me ill. Everybody is skinny. The only person I want to see skinny is Rob Kardashian. That's it. That's the only person I want on the shot like everybody else. Totally. Do what's right for you. Your body, your family.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Anna]

Rob Kardashian. I need. I need 2009 Rob Kardashian back now.

[Hannah]

Look, I accept Rob at all sizes.

[Anna]

Totally.

[Hannah]

However, if anyone does have access to Ozempic, it's Rob. It's Rob. Has there been any Rob sightings recently?

[Anna]

You know, I'm not sure, but, like, I saw a TikTok of him recently. It was like a Kardashian mashup. And I realized that, like, Rob Kardashian, 2000. Well, six to 2012 was my exact type.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Anna]

I'll die. I'll die on a hill. I thought it was Italian. So funny. Yeah, he had earrings.

[Hannah]

I think he's also so little brother energy.

[Anna]

I was big into earrings at that of my life.

[Hannah]

Chunky diamond earring on a man. Yeah.

[Anna]

Cubic zirconium. I think that's what it's called.

[Hannah]

When guys used to get one ear pierced back in the day, that was like. They were naughty. They were really. They were bad boys. And they, like, never even got a hand job before, but they're getting their ears pierced anyway.

[Anna]

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure my brother got his ears pierced one time in high school, and I'm pretty sure my mom literally, I'm not kidding, physically ripped them out of his head.

[Hannah]

Yeah, that's what happened to my dad. Like, my dad, immediately they were like, take it out.

[Anna]

Yeah, take it out. I don't think it even lasted like, an hour.

[Hannah]

No.

[Anna]

Poor guy.

[Hannah]

Actually, I told you. Yeah. One of my little family members was like, my mom's not letting me get an earring. And I was like, I'll pierce it right now. And he's like, what? And I'm like, yeah, just some ice. And you just stab it. And he's like, I have to check with her first.

[Anna]

Do you know? Actually, one of my cousins is like, totally will just do that.

[Hannah]

Yeah.

[Anna]

Like, she's pierced all. Like, pierced her ears.

[Hannah]

Done. Whatever. I. We both just have one piercing, right?

[Anna]

I actually have three in each ear.

[Hannah]

Oh, my God.

[Anna]

Wait, are you looking at me differently?

[Hannah]

You're a punk. You're okay. Did you shop at Hot Topic? Wait, when was last time you had them all in?

[Anna]

Okay.

[Hannah]

Crack is whack. I've been waiting to say that the whole time. My mom wouldn't let me hang out with you if you came in with fucking piercings up to your forehead.

[Anna]

Saying crack is whack. To me is insane.

[Hannah]

Wait, me running into every party bathroom? Craig is wagging. That's why they don't invite you to parties, Hannah. You run in and yell to their face, crack is whack. And film it.

[Anna]

You would have been my favorite project in high school. So I got my second and third hole pierced when I was like, 26. It wasn't like I wasn't in, like, high school or college or whatever.

[Hannah]

Yeah, you didn't even tell me.

[Anna]

Yes, I'm pretty sure we've talked about this, but the best part of this story is that I told my mom and. And she didn't talk to me for, like, four days.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Because it's. Yeah, she shouldn't. That's crazy behavior at 26.

[Anna]

Yeah. But I was like. I was like, mom, it's literally my ear. And I'm almost 30.

[Hannah]

Like, how often have you, like, fully had him in?

[Anna]

I used to do it a lot.

[Grace]

All the time.

[Anna]

I mean, I'm sure one of the mean. Some of them probably are closed, but, like, if I really want to, I can, like, poke through. But I wanted it because, like, I just thought it looked cool when I would wear, like, hoops and, like, studs or, like, three different size hoops.

[Hannah]

I, like, I wonder what the trends are now for Gen Z's with piercings. I'm not really sure because there was a time where, like, everyone had, like, the top pierced or whatever. See, I never went there with my brain. Like, I never even thought about it. Never even thought about it. This does remind me, though. Back in the day, like, maybe 2016, I started, like, being online and I made friends with this influencer, Jeremy. I made friends with this girl, Jere Bean, who is still a creator, and she's iconic. Like, she was like a Soul cycle instructor and, like, tatted up and she wore, like, rings all the time. Like, at that point, I felt like girls who wear rings are, like, a different level of, like, cool. She would wear rings all the time.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And she just was like, cool and a vibe and fashionable. Whatever. So we go to eat coffee and snacks, and then she's like, I want to get my nipple pierced. And this is the problem. When people meet me, I think my energy gives. Yeah, I will get my nipple pierced with you at 3pm on a Tuesday. And then they're thrown for a loop when I'm like, I'm scared. I'm terrified right now.

[Anna]

Like, you're like, I actually. I don't even handle caffeine well.

[Hannah]

I go, this whole milk Latte is gonna ruin me. Like, this is the crazy part of my day. This whole milk latte. I'm actually scared with this whole milk. So then I was like, I'll come with you, though. And I think she thought I was, like, gonna be like, yeah, And I'll get. I'll get this next thing you know. I just hung out with her as she got her nipple. I couldn't even watch it. I started gagging. I was like. Like, it was so intense. And I was like, are you okay? And then we never saw each other again. No.

[Anna]

I did not think that. That the story ended. You hung out one time.

[Hannah]

Well, like, we're still friends, but I. I don't. Oh, I don't know.

[Anna]

I think she moved, like, takes you in different places.

[Hannah]

Wait, I forgot to tell you guys. I. This is so. I feel like I'm, like, back with my friends to be like. Like, how I embarrass myself with other friends. I went to one of these, like, events where you, like, sit down and have dinner.

[Anna]

Yeah. And I finally start a dinner, also known as dinner.

[Hannah]

This is crazy. I went to dinner.

[Anna]

I went to this new concept. They're trying it, but, like, only in certain parts of the country. Sorry.

[Hannah]

My dad didn't eat dinner till she was 22. Okay. It's new in our family. Nana's like, dinner.

[Anna]

We ate grass.

[Hannah]

There wasn't even any grass in Brooklyn anyway.

[Anna]

Oh, God. Okay.

[Hannah]

So I actually was, like, nervous. I, like, because I didn't go with anyone, so I'm like, I hope I make friends with someone. And finally I start, like, bonding with someone, like, in it. I'm like, oh, wait, they like me. Like, they're liking this interaction. I'm fun. I'm cool. And she then turns to me, and she goes, I have a weed pen. Do you want to smoke outside?

[Anna]

Wait, where is this?

[Hannah]

This is at, like, a event thing.

[Anna]

Okay. Yeah.

[Hannah]

And in that moment, I felt like I was 12 years old again, and my crush asked me to smoke weed with him. And I said, I can't. My mom doesn't let me. And then he never talked to me again. So she looks at me, and I go, oh, sorry, I don't smoke. The disappointment in her face was cr. And I was like, I support it, though. Like, I will go outside and keep talking like, we are. While you smoke. And she was like. She literally pushed back. She's like, you don't smoke. And I'm like, oh, you're not gonna convince me now. Like, I'm not. I'LL ruin this party. I don't want to do this. And also, we just met. Like, this isn't, like, if Paige.

[Anna]

That's so weird.

[Hannah]

No, she literally was like, you don't. And I'm like, I'm not lying to you. Like, I'm also like, it's Tuesday again. It's a Tuesday.

[Anna]

And also, I think I feel like smoking. Like, you have to be a particular type of person. I feel like, to also smoke weed and then walk back into a dinner of, like, a bunch of people and, like, have a conversation like, I would personally die.

[Hannah]

Also, like, what strand? Like, what. How much does it weigh? Like, what color?

[Anna]

Like, oh, so you don't know any of that, so.

[Hannah]

No.

[Anna]

Even if a doctor walked up to you and said, this is gonna make you feel the best ever, it's X, Y, and Z, you'd be like, no.

[Hannah]

I just, like, you know, I am already anxious socially, so, like, to see her, like, falling in love with me, to then see her, like, disappointed in me and that she got me all wrong, and then, like, she hasn't hit me up.

[Anna]

So maybe it is funny that you. I don't know what it is about you.

[Hannah]

Also, do I want friends? No. But do I want them to want to be my friend? Yes.

[Anna]

I don't know what it is about you that people read your personality the majority of the time.

[Paige Desorbo]

So wrong.

[Hannah]

I'm so misunderstood. Thank you. No, I'm so misunderstood. I don't mean to, Like, I'm working on it in therapy. I'm so misunderstood on this. In this world.

[Anna]

I really feel like you are. You are misunderstood, though. There are so many parts of your personality that people are like, hannah. That's so Hannah. And I'm like, hannah would kill her.

[Hannah]

No, but, like, then it made me feel like I was, like, lying to her. But it's like, no, I'm. I love to chat. I love to. I'm totally. I'm, like, charismatic. I don't know, but that does. But then I couldn't smoke weed with her, and I wasn't cool enough. Yeah, totally. And. But my husband's sober, so he loves.

[Anna]

Me, and you don't need to smoke weed to have fun.

[Hannah]

Craig is whack, you guys. Crack is.

[Anna]

Cracky's whack has been the theme, and I did. I really didn't think we were going there that this week.

[Hannah]

Oh, can we add to my other social awkward encounters?

[Anna]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

So I was in Florida all weekend, and when you're in Florida, shit's going to happen. I. So I decide to order Ubereats to this hotel, which is a risk, you know, Or Uber eats to hotel, especially when they don't bring it up to you, is a risk.

[Anna]

Can go. Yeah. There's so many variables.

[Hannah]

So many things can go wrong. Yeah. So I.

[Anna]

Safety issues. It's just. It's a lot. Don't you. Actually, I'm literally thinking about.

[Hannah]

You're stressed. Just think about it. Also, like, you forget your fork. It's a whole thing. Anyway, I. For some reason, I'm like, I'm gonna go down and meet them right there. Like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be.

[Paige Desorbo]

Cut.

[Anna]

The middleman.

[Hannah]

Middleman. Give me the fucking.

[Anna]

Yeah, Right.

[Hannah]

Hand it over.

[Anna]

Eye to eye. Look me in my eye. Tell me that's my food.

[Hannah]

Yeah, I'm starving. So what'd you order? I ordered from this Mexican place called Grumpy Gringo. Okay. So I go down and the lady's like, hey, they don't let us leave it at. We have to leave it at the desk. And I go, great. I'm actually in the lobby. And then she immediately order. Done.

[Anna]

Cuts off communication.

[Hannah]

Cuts off communication at a time like this, I'm in the lobby and I'm looking at the counter, nothing on the counter, And I start panicking. So I wait in line at the counter because there's, of course, a line of, like, all these people signing for vacation. And I'm like, hey, any Uber Eats orders? And they're like, no. I'm like, okay, well, she said it was here, and then she disappeared. And she didn't take a photo, which is a no, no in the Uber community.

[Anna]

So suspect.

[Hannah]

So suspect. I'm like, I think she ate my food. So then the lady's like, okay, it actually. This is a very confusing hotel. It could be in many different places. And I'm like, perfect. And she's like, you're just gonna have to tell me the name of the restaurant. And I was like, I can't tell you that. And she's like, tell me the name of the restaurant. And I'm like, it's Mexican. And she's like, what is the name of the restaurant, miss? And I'm like, I don't know. And she's like, can you check your phone? And I'm like, no. And then we go back and forth for, like, three minutes.

[Anna]

Why didn't you just check your phone?

[Hannah]

Because I didn't want to say Grumpy Gringo in front of everyone. And I'm like, it's Under Hannah, it's room, you know, 1002. And she's like, gave me the name. Finally, out of nowhere, a bellman comes with my food. And everything worked out. But there was a moment. I don't know, I just feel like I was.

[Anna]

There's a moment where you. We almost lost you.

[Hannah]

I was so scared in Florida, but I also was in Saint. No, Fort Myers. And I said, what's up, Saint Pete?

[Grace]

You always do that.

[Hannah]

At this point, the giggles are like, get a new bit. Get a new.

[Anna]

Sometimes it is hard to remember. I was gonna say. There's also about ordering food in a hotel. There's something like. There's also. I don't know what it is, but there's something inherently embarrassing about waiting for your order in the lobby. I also low key. Always feel like I'm doing something illegal because I'm like. I'm like, I know you guys have a restaurant here, and I love it and I'm so proud of you guys. I don't want to eat it. It's not.

[Hannah]

Wendy. Sorry.

[Anna]

Like, I am going to get something else, but I also feel like that's kind of illegal. And then I also feel like sometimes I don't know why I get this anxious where I'm like, do they think I'm waiting for a drug dealer?

[Hannah]

That's like, when you're at TSA and they're.

[Anna]

Yeah. I'm like, no, obviously they don't think I'm waiting for a drug dealer.

[Hannah]

Did I leave cocaine up my butthole from that one time? No.

[Anna]

It's, like, irrational.

[Hannah]

It's extremely. It's vulnerable. It's violating the whole.

[Anna]

It's embarrassing.

[Hannah]

And then sometimes they have, like, multiple bags when it's not necessary. But it looks like you're going. It looks like you're going to have, like, a secret pig out, which you are.

[Anna]

Yeah. But it's just, like, a lot.

[Hannah]

If they were like, give us your Social Security number and we'll bring it up to your room. I'm like, done. What? I, like, literally give you my firstborn for you to bring it up to the room. Because if I have to put pants on and go downstairs. Also, sometimes I just showered to shower and then have to be like, your last shower of the day to shower and then have to go into public again. It ruins the feng shui. It ruins the flow.

[Paige Desorbo]

So I recently had one of those moments where I stood in front of my closet and I said, I have nothing to wear while surrounded by hundreds of things. I never touch So I started listing them on Depop and honestly, it's amazing. You can sell the pieces you're over and someone out there will be obsessed with them. And the best part? There's no seller fees. None. So the money you make actually stays in your pocket, which feels very chic. Plus, it's so easy. I listed something while watching TV and it sold before the episode even ended. Depop isn't just one esthetic either. It's all of them. Minimal streetwear, date night. Whatever your vibe is, there's someone who shares it. So download the Depop app and list your first item today because your old outfit might be someone else's new favorite. And don't forget to tune in to our latest bonus episode where Hannah and I will take calls from the Giggly Squad style hotline. We're helping solve your fashion dilemmas, shopping woes and style questions. Submit yours [e-mail] for a chance to get your question answered by us on the show Depop, where taste recognizes taste.

[Grace]

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Grace]

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[Paige Desorbo]

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[Grace]

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[Hannah]

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[Grace]

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[Hannah]

I'm in a Nashville K hole.

[Anna]

Oh. Oh, I thought you were like in Nashville.

[Hannah]

No, I'm watching Nashville still and I.

[Anna]

Like couldn't get into it and we did pinpoint it to. It's a musical and I just, I can't do it.

[Hannah]

Were you on your phone during it?

[Anna]

Kind of, yeah.

[Hannah]

I think you should give it one more chance. Like I'm not gonna pressure you like now or tomorrow, but like don't completely because there's 30 episodes a season. Like, I'm.

[Anna]

No, I know. I know.

[Hannah]

My life has been lost to this. And it is like a soap opera where every scene, something happens. Like, the second. Here's the thing. They never lose me.

[Anna]

I think it's like the cadence in which people in the south speak and, no, I'm not getting. No, I'm not getting. And it's. Everything sounds so depressing, but yet, like, so ugly. Sorry, that was a bit harsh. What an unhinged hour this has been. Like, I really. I don't ever have any expectations for what the bot's gonna be, but this wasn't it this week. This was not it.

[Hannah]

We want to apologize to the Academy.

[Anna]

This is just not it.

[Hannah]

Well, whenever I think it's a bad podcast, people be like, it was the funniest podcast.

[Anna]

No, wait, hear me out here. Listen to me.

[Hannah]

You know, you just came for half of the nation.

[Anna]

No. Okay, you. No, I'm talking about specifically this show. When they're talking about something, what is the redhead girl's name?

[Hannah]

Like, Connie Brin?

[Anna]

Yes. Like, obviously things are happening with her career and, like, something sad or bad is imminent. Like, you know, something's about to happen. But every conversation, it just sounds so.

[Grace]

Like, oh, and what's gonna happen?

[Anna]

Like, I don't know, you're still gonna be a famous pop star. Like, I don't know.

[Hannah]

But see, I want to watch every. Stories.

[Anna]

Sounds depressing.

[Hannah]

I want to watch stories about famous pop tarts. Pop Tarts, Famous pop stars.

[Anna]

Now we're talking. Cinnamon Swirl is the star, and everyone knows it.

[Hannah]

Wait, I thought of a crazy movie idea or just, like, someone's nightmare. Imagine you don't want to be famous. Like, it's, you know, like, people either want to be famous or they're like. I mean, you can imagine some people, like, it's their biggest fear in life is to be famous. You're born with a twin sister, and something happens with your twin sister where she, like, goes viral or, like, becomes a famous musician or famous something, and then you're getting recognized everywhere because you look just like her. But you didn't want this life.

[Anna]

Okay? And then what does they do? They kill each other?

[Hannah]

I don't know, but it was just.

[Anna]

That just sounds like you were like, I wish I had a twin so I could send her to work today so I didn't have to go. I know exactly what that thought process is.

[Hannah]

Every Disney movie. Every Disney movie was about twins and being like, can you do this meeting for me.

[Anna]

It's so funny that you bring that up because for whatever reason, I keep getting on my tik tok these, like, Australian twin sisters, and they're so weird, and they do weird things, and I'm like, what video did I watch a little too long that now I get. All I get are these people's videos anyhow.

[Hannah]

So annoying, though. But I do love Australians.

[Anna]

No. Yeah, I do too.

[Hannah]

So I want to do this twin video with you because they. I am on a weird twin algorithm, too, of, like, all these sisters where they put.

[Anna]

Wait, why are we on this?

[Hannah]

Maybe because they think we're twins.

[Anna]

No, I. This is weird.

[Hannah]

But they. You ever see with the door, and they go on separate sides of the door and they'll be like, wave. And like, they both wave with their right hand. It's like, yeah, they're fucking righties. Of course they're waving with the right hand. But I feel like they're like, do a peace sign. And they're like, oh, my God, they both did a peace sign with their right hand. But anyway, I feel like me and you should do this.

[Anna]

There's nothing I love more than when my ovulation and cycle switches from that's the cutest video ever to no one cares. What idiots.

[Hannah]

I.

[Anna]

Also, we have the same voting rights, you dumb.

[Hannah]

So I like, watched. If you watch one full, like, cat saving video where, like, a cat, a spicy cat gets saved, and then you have to watch the whole thing to see her, like, want to get affection. Your whole feed is cats for, like a week. Like, I'm in. All I have is cats. And then I send them to you and Grace and my mom, my nana. So, like, I just have cat stuff right now, so I can't really help with good content. I apologize to the academy again. Sorry.

[Anna]

I'm just going to a really. Going through a really tough time right now, and it's.

[Hannah]

But now whenever I see a beautiful rag doll do a commercial, I'm like, becoming Daphne's agent where I'm, like, competitive and I go, that's crazy, because her nose is literally not as pretty as Daphne's.

[Anna]

I'm so hyper aware of the.

[Hannah]

Of the cat business.

[Anna]

I'm so hyper aware to the cat who's your pr.

[Hannah]

Who does your pr? She got that. You go, who? She signed. You're on IMDb going, who'd she signed with? Does she.

[Anna]

The other day, a real sentence came out of my mouth was, does that cat have a lawyer? Does that cat have a lawyer? Speaking of cat Daphne launched our satin collection, which.

[Paige Desorbo]

Let me just say.

[Grace]

Our.

[Anna]

Photo shoot was so much fun. And I didn't. I. We didn't release all of the pictures, but it was just the cutest thing. And did you see my little video that I had to.

[Hannah]

Yes, you did.

[Anna]

All my little bits that I'm trying to come up with.

[Hannah]

Yeah. I feel like that was like. I think you were wearing reindeer antlers.

[Anna]

I was wearing reindeer antlers. I was wearing my grandma's, like, vintage coat. And then I was wearing these Jimmy Choo.

[Hannah]

I love how they're like, can you wear Daphne? And you're like, I'm gonna cover it with the full fur.

[Anna]

Well, I knew I wanted that fur in those boots incorporated somehow. And then we have a brown satin set.

[Hannah]

We actually have a brown satin set that we can't see. No. It was so funny. I. I was really giggling.

[Anna]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Also, it's, like, shot very well. Like, you looked gorgeous.

[Anna]

Guess who shot it?

[Hannah]

Josephine.

[Anna]

Josephine. We literally were there and we were just like, wait, let's do this really quick.

[Hannah]

Josephine's a modern day Quentin Quarantino. Quentin Quarantino is my DJ name.

[Anna]

What did you just say?

[Hannah]

Quentin Quarantino. Quentin Quarantine.

[Anna]

You're an ally.

[Hannah]

You guys, we're so tired. I am so sorry. I want to apologize again.

[Anna]

No, here's the thing. Also, every year around this time, I get really. Hannah, can a test. I get really snippy. I get really, like, changing of the guards. I get like, you're in, you're out.

[Hannah]

Yep.

[Anna]

Goodbye. There's a few things that in the new year, I would like to change with Giggly Squad. And one of them being, I'm not sure recording on a Monday is, like, the best thing ever.

[Hannah]

Wait. I just got so scared. I thought you were gonna fire me. You go first up on the docket. What are you.

[Anna]

I'm literally trying to move in with you. Like, what?

[Hannah]

No, wait. Monday is hard when I'm on tour, too. When we tour.

[Anna]

It's hard when you're on tour specifically. And when we also. I feel like. When.

[Grace]

I feel like.

[Anna]

When I have the most to tell you, it's like a Thursday. I'm like, oh, my God, I have.

[Grace]

So much to tell.

[Hannah]

Can I just say, because I have been talking to the higher ups. And by higher ups, I mean Grace.

[Grace]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

We will have some fun things to announce come the new year as a present for the Gigglers. There will be some fun stuff. Nothing. No crazy changes. Just some.

[Anna]

That just felt so millennial. And I actually loved it. Like, we're teasing something. We can't say what it is. Like, sit there, wonder guests swipe up.

[Hannah]

Yeah. Yeah. I love old school marketing. No.

[Anna]

Bring back radio advertisers.

[Hannah]

I do hate, though, when people are like, we can't tell you what it is, but I did something great. I'm like, okay. Like, this just annoyed me so much.

[Anna]

Oh, yeah. Ours isn't. We didn't do a good job on it.

[Hannah]

No. Yeah. Like, yeah. I mean, that's literally just what I did. But I'm just letting you guys know that when it's cold and it's the holidays, just no giggle squad is coming up with something warm. Also, can I just say, everyone's sick and no one's talking about it.

[Anna]

Okay. Part of being a Scorpio and being Italian and being a witch. Like, I am superstitious and I don't want to say something, but, like. Like, you've almost forced me into it. I haven't been sick in years.

[Hannah]

Mentally or physically. Because the gigglers.

[Anna]

Aside from chronic uti, which I actually didn't even tell you I suffered the most. Chronic uti.

[Hannah]

You were in a uti. K hole.

[Anna]

I was in a K hole.

[Hannah]

Texted me during it saying, I have a UTI right now.

[Anna]

I took a call from my toilet. I had to go. No cameras. I told everyone, too. I'm open and I'm transparent. If anything. I said, you have no idea what's happening right now, but let's get this out before the holidays. Yeah. Say what you want about me, but there is a layer that I like to peel back.

[Hannah]

And you think that you can't handle adversity. Like, you can't stay at a Best western. You have UTIs. Like, I had a UTI once, and I. I, like, it was the most uncomfortable thing that ever happened to me.

[Anna]

No. But I forgot.

[Hannah]

What?

[Anna]

How lovely it is having a UTI when I'm at home with my parents. My mom, like, literally brought me toast. We're big on toast.

[Hannah]

There's a theme. Super huge. I love how you got my favorite.

[Anna]

Thing to do so that I can take my pills so I wouldn't get anxious.

[Hannah]

Get a uti.

[Anna]

Get a tuition. Wait, what was I saying before that, though?

[Hannah]

Because that you never get sick. You never.

[Anna]

I haven't, like. I mean, sick in. In, like, flu, like, symptoms.

[Hannah]

I've been for the whole month.

[Anna]

Yeah, I haven't been sick in, like, a really long time, but I had.

[Hannah]

Gone a long time without being sick. You know what it was, you know what? Why you haven't been sick? Why? Because you keep your circle small. It's. No, it's so valid. I got sick because love of my life, my opener comic, Ali Colbert, got the flu.

[Anna]

She was sick.

[Hannah]

She got the flu. So honestly, she threw me off. And I said, look, if you can't keep up, you gotta get out of the kitchen. That's what they say. And I hate sick, especially on the road. But then she's like, I can't come next weekend. I'm like, that's fine, because I feel great. Because I'm unstoppable. Two days later, I'm like, I've been hit by a car. I've been shot.

[Anna]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

And so, yeah, Ali got me sick. Shout out, ali, love your work.

[Anna]

And then you just yelled. You just yelled. And I heard a dog bark across the hall. I'm not kidding.

[Hannah]

Dogs are gigglers too. Dogs are gigglers too. Even though, wait, I saw a meme.

[Anna]

That said coming out as a dog hater in 2025 is like coming out of the closet in the 1950s.

[Hannah]

So brave. We are so brave.

[Anna]

Some type of way.

[Hannah]

Today I was. I went to this apartment, my friend was. And there was a huge bulldog laying on the ground. I don't know if you've ever seen a bulldog in real life. I'm like, what is that? Like, it's not. I'm like, what the is that? That's crazy.

[Anna]

People love them.

[Hannah]

Well, it's like adorable. And like.

[Anna]

Well, they can't breathe.

[Hannah]

They can't. So first of all, the only reason I knew it was alive was cuz it was going, yeah, your dog has a sinus infection, so do I. And then it started coming towards me. And that's one of these moments where as a cat person, you don't know how to act because it's like someone want to shake your hand and you being like, no, thank you. When I tell you, when the dog came towards me, and this is a beautiful, ugly dog, I could smell it. I could smell it before I touched it.

[Matt Rogers]

The dog.

[Hannah]

Yes. Because it's when dogs get larger, they just get bigger. And by the way, so cute from afar. And then everyone, everyone starts going, oh, he likes you. So then I took like the back of my hand and like barely let it touch the back of my head.

[Anna]

So then you turned into a cat.

[Hannah]

Anyway, I did make friends with a dog. And then, you know when you're in an elevator with a dog and they just jump on you and you have to say, thank you. There's certain dog etiquette that people need to talk about. Like, imagine if your dog jumped at me and I went, no.

[Anna]

Okay. So anyway, so in the new year, we're. I think we're gonna switch our day. I think maybe we'll think about our day switch, and then we have fun things to announce and do. I'm saying it like the year's over, but we still have a whole month.

[Hannah]

A full month.

[Anna]

But I'm just like, I'm getting in my organizing mode, you know?

[Hannah]

I'm also going to Omaha, Nebraska, for the first time ever in my life next weekend for a show. So I'm okay. Kind of excited. I've never, like, I haven't been to a new place in a long time.

[Anna]

The only thing I can ever think of Omaha is Omaha Steaks.

[Hannah]

That's culture.

[Anna]

And when you would watch Kelly and Regis, when you would stay home from school, one of the prizes was a subscription to Omaha Steaks. And if that's not great marketing because it's stuck with me for years, I don't know what is.

[Hannah]

Regis. What a sweet, sweet old man. RIP Zaddy. And then where? I'm. I'm going to Iowa, and then I'm going to Kansas City, and I'm going to Des Moines. That's Iowa.

[Anna]

Okay, See you never.

[Hannah]

See you never. You guys, thank you for giggling with us. We love you so, so much. Talk to you soon.

[Matt Rogers]

Bye.

[Paige Desorbo]

Okay, let's talk holiday magic. Because Ulta Beauty is making it so easy to feel festive this year. Whether you're shopping for your mom, your bestie, your sister, or let's be real yourself, Ulta Beauty is the beauty gifting destination. They have gifts for every budget. I've been loving these limited edition holiday kits they have right now. First of all, the Sol de Janeiro, Shea Rocha and Cheer perfume Miss Trio set. Are you kidding me? This set smells like vacation and warm hugs. You get three different miss scents and I love keeping them in my bag. One in the car and gifting the third or keeping all three. We're not judging. Then there's the Tarte Kindness Cafe collector set. The packaging alone is a whole moment. It's inspired by a cute little cafe and inside it's packed with your tarte faves. I've been using the blush and lip products from it daily. They're flattering on everyone and super easy to wear. It makes the perfect gift for the makeup girly in your life or even someone who's just getting into it. And for a little cozy self care. I'm obsessed with the Moroccan Oil hand care essential set. My hands get so dry in the winter and this is that spa level hydration, but make it giftable. Plus, the signature Moroccan Oil scent is everything. By the way, these sets are a limited edition, so once they're gone, they're gone. Make the season yours and head to Ulta Beauty today to treat everyone on your list, including you. Ulta Beauty gifting happens here.

[Matt Rogers]

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