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Angie
Hey guys. Hey Gigi B. I'm Ang, I'm R.
Ari
And this is Girls by Gone Bible. We are a faith based podcast where we talk all things spirituality, mental health, the Bible. We love Jesus so much here. We live our lives. I have the flu. We live our lives completely rooted in biblical values. We love Jesus. We seek the face of God every day of our lives. We are on a journey of being disciples of Jesus. We're not just Christians. We're not just believers. We are disciples of Jesus. And this podcast is meant to help you and aid you on your journey with Jesus. So if you're new here, we always say, come as you are. Just don't stay that way. What's up, R?
Angie
What's up? You got the flu?
Ari
I have the flu.
Angie
How many times have you had the flu this year?
Ari
None this year. I think I've only had the flu twice this year and last year. Do you remember, like, around Valentine's Day when we went to Nashville, I had the flu.
Angie
It was.
Ari
I had it so bad. And I want to tell you guys a little story really quick. So Ari and I are going to Buffalo, New York and Ontario this weekend for our GGB tour. We've been off to off of tour for five months. I listen to Jesus, like, listen to how kind God is and how things don't make sense right away, but in the end, they all, like, literally the scripture. You don't know what I'm doing right now, but later you will. So I'm packing up all my stuff, getting ready to go to Ontario tomorrow, and I can't find my passport anywhere. And I'm like, this is not good. I'm calling my mom. I tore my entire house apart. Like, I'm telling. I know it's at my house because Vilma saw it in December at my house and I haven't used it, so it's somewhere. But I swear I looked everywhere from my passport. Anyways, I just drive to come film and I'm on the phone with my brother and he's helping me figure it out. And we're trying to see if I can do like a 24 hour one. But I was planning on going home tonight again and just looking for it. And then my brother Julio, I sent him a photo of my passport, my old one.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
And he looks at it and he goes, ang, your passport expired two days ago. And by the way, Ari just looked at hers. Hers expires next week. I know.
Angie
I gotta get a new one.
Ari
We were both asking for it. And then I realized, whatever. Long story short, I am now taking a red eye tonight to Buffalo because our first show on Thursday is in Buffalo. I'm taking a red Eye to Buffalo. I have a passport appointment in the morning because our Ontario show isn't until Saturday. So God will. I will do the 24 hour passport tomorrow, have it for Ontario. If you guys are watching right now, please pause and pray even though you'll watch this on Friday. God exists outside of space and time so he can answer your prayers now that you pray later. So anyways, I'm like thinking about this and I'm like, dude, God is so kind. Because as I couldn't find my passport and I was like, this must be the enemy. This is spiritual warfare. I can't find my passport. Literally. Jesus is like, I'm purposely not going to let you find your passport so that you can look at a photo and realize that it's expired.
Angie
Oh my gosh.
Ari
Cuz had that not happened, I would have looked. I wouldn't have looked. I would have gone to the airport tomorrow, tried to get on the flight and they would have been like, your passport's expired. And then I wouldn't have had time to go to the 24 hour and do the right eye and all the things anyway. So I say all that to say you never know why things happen the way that they happen. Don't always assume something is immediately so bad.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
When God could be doing something.
Angie
So can you get the passport?
Ari
You guys will see on Saturday whether we got it or not. I pray in G. I really hope we don't have to cancel the show, but if I don't have a pass. Oh, I really, really, really well.
Angie
Be praying guys.
Ari
Just be praying guys that we can.
Angie
To get on a flight with the flu is a literal nightmare.
Ari
I mean, come on. I'm like, it's okay, I'll be okay. It's not the first time. The full b. The chills though are like the worst.
Angie
The worst.
Ari
I won't get you sick.
Angie
And when I have the flu, it's even more of a nightmare because I am such a baby when I'm sick.
Ari
You hate being sick so much.
Angie
I am such a baby when I'm sick. I actually am like planning my funeral.
Ari
You really?
Angie
And you know that meme when the ladies and like the white. What is it called? The white zip up death bag.
Ari
Oh yeah.
Angie
And they're like wheeling her down the chair and it's like when you find out you have like a cough.
Ari
Were you scared during COVID Honestly? Because you're a hypochondriac. So were you like, what did you think?
Angie
Yeah, I was.
Ari
Really?
Angie
Yeah. I mean I felt like I was literally dying. But I would be more scared if I would have gotten that vaccine.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
I didn't realize how smart I was until everybody around me was pressuring me to get the vaccine, and I was like, nah.
Ari
And you didn't get it.
Angie
I never got it. And I got so pressured. I'm so proud of myself.
Ari
Well, good for you for not letting people bully you into doing something that you don't want to do with your body, buddy. Your body.
Angie
No, that is a bad slogan.
Ari
Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, Right. So what are we talking about today?
Angie
Well, last night we were just thinking, what. What do we talk about? And I just thought, why not talk about sexualization?
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
You know? Yeah. I was in Miami for a little bit, and I just saw so much and social media, and I just am like, I think girls really need that. Even guys.
Ari
Yeah. Yeah, 100%.
Angie
What are your thoughts?
Ari
I mean, we have so many thoughts. I have so many thoughts. I think the first thing I want to say is, like, Ari and I are really similar in this. This is going to be, like, a girl to girl and girl to guy conversation around feeling sexy, being sexy, dressing sexy. And, like, Ari and I obviously both have, like, provocative pasts. We don't come from a life of purity. We don't come from a life of modesty. We've been really open about that, and it's been, like, genuinely the greatest joy of my life to enter into complete purity and pursue holiness with everything that I am, everything that I have, and then also living a life where I'm not seeking that sort of validation from men, for men to think that I am hot or to think that I'm sexy. When I think when I was younger, and we've talked about this before, but, like, not only did we not grow up in biblical houses, we also, like, were raised by Hollywood, and we are raised by the world, and sex sells and everything is. So we live in the era of only fans, and. And we live in the era. And I just want to say, like, whoever is listening to this, this is for everybody. But this is especially for the girls who come from, like, where Ari and I come from, who you're walking this line of, like, we don't know. I just think, like, when you grow up in a biblical household, you know things that we didn't know.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
And then when you don't and you're trying to change your life and you're trying to pursue all these things and you're trying to pursue godliness, it's really hard to break It. And when you have people around you that aren't living that way, who aren't dressing and acting that way, it's even harder to. And so we want to talk to the girls who are in that middle place who don't know whether they're able to go all in like that or whether maybe you're still seeking that sort of validation. And I'll just speak for myself in saying like growing up probably since I was like 14 years old, I remember beginning to sexualize myself.
Angie
14?
Ari
Yeah, like super young. I remember being a freshman in high school, I think.
Angie
Me too.
Ari
That's when you're a freshman so young. Can you imagine 14 year olds today? And I really think it began one obviously not being raised in a biblical household, but also like being sexualized by other people, being sexualized by boys at school. I remember being in elementary school and I have really early memories of boys looking at me that way or talking to me or talking about my body. And I just think like, if you're not talking to your kids openly about this stuff, you are leaving. You're just leaving such an open door for their minds and their perspective to be shaped by what's going on at school. And so I, I have a sense of like almost the innocence that I had when I was a kid was almost like taken from me in a way where like since people saw me a certain way, I kind of adopted that myself. And then I get into high school and of course a fragmented relationship with a dad and not having that stable upbringing, potentially men around me. Speaking about women, that's another thing for girls too. The way that we hear the men we grew up with speak about women is often how like what shapes the way that we see ourselves and it really contributes to the sexualization of ourselves and like how we move through the world. So by the time I'm 14, I'm in ninth grade. I remember wearing these little dresses. I remember buying a push up bra that pushed my bra or my whatever as high as possible. Like I remember being so young and wanting to be perceived this way.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
And that's how I felt loved and that's how I felt desired. And that never stopped. It only got progressively more. It was, it only progressed from there and then. So I'm in my 20s and it's the same thing, you know, it's almost like a power move too where like, you know, it's just the cheapest way to get somebody to like you. Yeah, it's the cheapest way to get a man to like You. It's the most surface level connection that there is.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
Attraction is so important. But a guy thinking you're hot. Guys will literally think anything is hot. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just, like, it's just cheap. It's so cheap. And so one of the hardest things that I've walked through is breaking this sexualization of myself and realizing that, like, I don't want to be seen that way. I don't want men to look at me that way, you know, and there's so many different ways because there's been a journey even in that. But, like, that's kind of what led me there. What do you. How do you feel about it often?
Angie
Yes. Same.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Like, it's. I think when I heard you about, like, the father thing, I started to think about what made me kind of sexualize myself. I mean, I think I tied my worth to being sexy. And when I would get a little bit of attention, I tied my worth to that. Cause that's all I thought I was ever good for. Exactly, right? Yeah. And then, you know, when I moved to Hollywood, I was so young. I was just 18. And then it's like, crazy. My story when I was in the entertainment industry, I mean, I just want you guys to learn. It's so good that we went through this. And I don't shame myself, but there are things that are going to be out there forever that people can see. And I don't shame myself. I have been washed by the blood of the lamb. But it's something that, you know, it will stay. Stay out there. And so I just remember, like, getting the calls from my manager and her being like, listen, you just do it. Like, you have to do what you have to do.
Ari
Like a nude.
Angie
Yeah. Like you ha. And I remember being so young and being in this, like, well, I have to do it if I want to. If I want to make money, if I want to get my foot in the door. And so I would just do these roles. And I remember coming home feeling so empty. And I would just book these roles just based on, like, the hot. And I would just, like, sit there and I was just feeling. I would just feel so empty. And so I would just tie my worth to sexualizing myself. And then when Instagram came out, you know, I remember this was recently. This was what, three, four years ago. That's what I would tie my worth to. I thought feeling seen meant being sexy. What can I wear to look sexier or I won't get as many likes. What can I do if I don't look beautiful? I mean, I would literally tie my worth to Instagram likes.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
And then I would be like, I can't believe.
Ari
And the sexier the photo, the more revealing the clothing, the more likes you're gonna get.
Angie
Yeah. And like, God forbid, if we posted a just a normal photo, I was like, no, that will get no likes. No one will like me then. Exactly. And so it was just this constant rush. So I would post these photos where I would look so confident and beautiful, but it was just like emptiness wrapped up in confidence.
Ari
Oh, I know. I remember being so obsessed with posting
Angie
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Ari
Yeah, and it's just so sad to think about and like, you add in like all the food and body issues that I've had throughout my life and, and then this like, incessant need for people to like, think you have a nice body and like having so much of your worth wrapped up in the way that your body looks. And if you have abs and if like you look super seductive in this photo, guys will like you more. It's just like, it's just so sad and it's such a cover up up of like all of your insecurities and it's so demonic. I remember feeling so, like, if I could use one word to describe what being sexy made me feel, it was powerful. It's this like false sense of power that you feel. It's so demonic. And the truth is, it is powerful. Yeah, it's lust. It's the spirit of. I don't even know which spirit it is, but it's It's Jezebel. It's like, there's a sense of. It is Jezebel. The spirit of Jezebel isn't just like, she's provocative, she's manipulative. And, like, if we're all being really honest, the more we want to be sexy, the more we want to utilize being beautiful and sexy. It's manipulation.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
We are manipulating people, men, whoever, to get something for ourselves, to get that validation. That's what Jezebel is. She's manipulative. And so when I look back on that time, the reason my heart breaks so much is, like, I just wanted to feel in clearly. I wanted to feel powerful. I wanted to feel worthy. I wanted to feel valuable. But really, I just wanted to feel safe and seen and loved and cared for. What was your journey? And, like, how that broke. When do you feel like you started to realize, like, oh, there's something not right here?
Angie
Well, it's so funny because I. You know, when you look at your archived photos.
Ari
My archived photos are my worst nightmare.
Angie
The first day we posted our YouTube
Ari
video, you were at a bikini shoe.
Angie
I was at a bikini shoe. And if you guys could have seen this video that I posted in my bikini on the beach. And I literally thought I was doing nothing wrong. I was like, I look good.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
You know, and so it just took a lot of pruning and growing and the word of God and community and conviction of the Lord. And it was like, I don't know, it just. I think, you know, we undermine people. We need people. We need leaders. We need, like, Stephanie Ek. For me, that is my person. That is my person that I look at, a leader. We need leaders that are led by God. And I look at someone like Stephanie Ek, and that is a woman who does not live a life of compromise. That is someone when I look at her and I watch her and I talk to her, I become a better me, because that is a woman who truly walks with God. And so we need people that are more seasoned than us, who are leaders that we can look to. Same with Philip Mitchell. Michael Culiano's for you. He's made you a better woman of God. We need people that we look up to. We need the word of God. We need intimacy with Jesus.
Ari
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Angie
And for me, it was just. It's like, what is that scripture? Like, I give you milk.
Ari
I fed you milk, but now I want to feed you solid foods.
Angie
Yeah. Like, I was drinking milk. And he deals with you in processes, and he understands why we are how we are and how we grow up and why we do certain things. But I think as you keep following him and you stay in good community and you keep reading the word of God, that conviction, you can't. If you are chasing Jesus, you can't keep being the same person that you were. So true, you know?
Ari
Yeah. I think something that was, like, crucial in our journey too, specifically. And that's why, like, you, I don't know, sometimes we're like, man, people are so mean in the comments. Which, yes, like, on the Internet, it's hard for a lot of people who are in the public eye. But those beginning stages of ggb, our audience, it was, like, crucial for us that our audience was calling us out on every photo that we posted. I am so grateful. There are people on Instagram that I'm, like, friends with now to this day who were, like, like, gently rebuking me in the early days. And, like, I love them for it. Those comments were so, so, so good for me. And I fought it for a little a while, and I was prideful, and I was like, I don't need to be like these other Christian girls. I don't need to. We're different. We're different. And it's like, what are we talking about? What is that? Pride? I think it's just so. Again, I've said it a million times, but sin is so blinding and it's so perverse that it will cause you to be like, I don't. I don't need to. That's just too much. That's too religious. It is so important for us to truly pursue a life of such purity and such holiness. And that's not to say that we always get it right.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
And this is where I want to move into now. Being modest for both you and I is so important, and we still get it wrong sometimes. And I even posted a photo recently where a really, really a woman that I respect so much, kind of gently was like, he. Ange, I just feel like your top is too low in this. And for me, I truly. I posted it, and I was like, not. I wouldn't have even imagined that there was anything wrong with the top. And I respected this woman so much that I was like, oh, my gosh, thank you so much for calling this out. I didn't think. And I usually, like, run my photos by a couple of people, too, sometimes if, like, my body showing or if, like, I'm wearing a tank top or something. And I really didn't think there was anything wrong with the photo. But you know what? This woman that I respect so much said that to me. I'm gonna listen. So it just. It takes such a humility to be like, clearly, you see something that I don't see.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
You know, you don't have to take advice from strangers that you don't know or respect or, like, trust. But when someone who seasoned like Stephanie Ek or anybody else tells you, hey, this is a blind spot, you're not seeing this correctly, I'm immediately like, I'm gonna rely on what you're saying more than whatever it is. Because I come from this. I come from a provocative past. I have been sanctified, washed, made new. But there's always, like, a temptation or an ability to go backwards.
Angie
Oh, yeah.
Ari
It takes one step, and you're. And you go back. You know what I mean?
Angie
Yeah. And there's still things that, you know, certain things that I will wear sometimes that probably I'm like, oh, wait, maybe I shouldn't have worn that.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
So it's like, it's a journey. It really is. It's. It's a. It's a journey. And none of us are perfect.
Ari
No.
Angie
And I think just to speak. Speak on the comment thing, like. Like, what that person did for you was so good. But I think that we have to be careful because we are in such process. And, like, I remember getting comments under our pictures and just being like, I don't want to be a Christian anymore. Like, if this is how people of God are, like, I. And, like, so we just have to be so careful with judgment.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Because I remember I needed love and I needed grace, but with truth. And so what that person did for you, like, privately messaging you and saying that, like, she came to you with such grace. And so if you are helping people right now and on their walk, I would just encourage you guys to just. You have to. You have to meet people where they're at. You have to love them. The amount of things that we saw at first, we're just like, what in the world?
Ari
And that's obviously not what I'm talking about. Not the mean people. You know, there's a lot of.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
But it was. I mean, there were times where I was like, what Is this what Christianity is like?
Ari
Well, it's. So when you look at someone, I just. I think I have so much compassion for people who struggle in their walk because I was there. I think I have so much compassion for people who even seem hypocritical to other people.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
Because you can really talk the talk and then have areas where you're not walking the walk because you're genuinely blind.
Angie
Yeah. Really? I remember I didn't, I didn't think I was doing anything.
Ari
No. Oh, are you kidding me? We went to. Never mind.
Angie
We have a specific path. Typically it's people that are seasoned that have been in the Bible for, well, for years.
Ari
Yeah, totally.
Angie
And we were, we have a different path where we are on this journey with you guys, learning with you guys. I don't know where I'm going with
Ari
this and something I wanted to talk about and tell me what you think about this. I. There's also an element to this too where. And I think this is really important to talk about and I feel like people don't talk about this enough. And we're not just talking about girls. Even though this is probably more geared toward women. This is for guys too. But like when, when a girl is in a relationship or married, the temptation or the desire to essentially like peacock, right? You're like presenting yourself, putting yourself out there to potentially mate with someone in like animalistic terms. When you're single or in a relationship and you're like tight or when you're in a relationship or you're married, like tie down, you are no longer presenting yourself or putting yourself out there for men. You know what I mean? I even realized that when I was in a relationship, like it was, oh my gosh, it was so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so easy to pursue modesty and purity because I'm like, there was this thing of like, oh, I don't, I literally don't want anybody to see me that way because I'm, I'm for this person. I'm just, you know, towards this way with this person. So I, I don't want other guys to think I'm attractive. I actually want them to think I'm like a guy. Like I. That's where my mind was at. And now being out of a relationship and being single and I think this is really important for girls to talk about is like, okay, now positioning yourself in the world that you're now single and you are kind of putting yourself out there to be pursued and what does that look like? Because oftentimes then you will have these temptations and these desires of life. Like cuz when you're in a relationship with someone, you know that they like you, you know that they think you're beautiful, you know that they desire you and they're attracted to you when you're courting and you're dating and you're in that like, vulnerable place as women and men. Like, of course you have those feelings of like, but I. Let me show them how beautiful I am. Let me show them how I have a nice body. Let me show them. You know what I mean? I wanted to talk to you guys about how like, Ari and I now are both in this space of like, what does it look like to position yourself as a single girl or guy in a godly way to be pursued without feeling like you have to lean into being physically attractive to people. I have found myself. You're going on a first date, you're going on a second date, you're doing this and you're picking out what you're gonna wear and you're. And you're figuring out and like, I have noticed a temptation or like even just a thought of being like, well, do I want this person to think I'm beautiful or like hot or. You know what I mean? I just think we need to be really honest that even as a Christian woman, like you have these thoughts. Of course you want to be attractive to the opposite sex. And it's been a beautiful journey for me in this season of being like, whoever I end up with is literally going to love my mind and my heart. Heart so much more than what I look like.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
Or how I. How if they think I'm hot. All I can think about is like the time of being pregnant where your body is not looking like what it was before you were pregnant and, and only pregnant and moms would know this. But you got, I've heard from other moms, you got fluid going everywhere. Things aren't looking right. Things aren't like, things are weird and. Yeah, like what? You want a man who's going to literally look at you like you are the most beautiful person in the world in that state in like your least sexy, least beautiful state. That's the type of man you want to go for. And so positioning yourself to be sexy to guys is the worst thing you can do because you will attract. Girls. Gone.
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Angie
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Ari
Yeah, you will attract someone who doesn't hold your hand and think you're so beautiful and only have eyes for you. The time where men cheat the most, apparently statistically, is when a woman is pregnant or postpartum. So that's why being sexy, being hot, being physically attractive should be so so so way down on the list, you know?
Angie
Yeah. And that's why it's so important to find your identity in Christ. Christ before anything. Because you're not tying your worth to Instagram photos, to being sexy, to all these things. Cuz you start to feel confident and anchored in the Lord, everything starts to change. You get transformed inside and out. It's unbelievable. That's why I say, don't worry about anything else but the Lord.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Focus on him. Focus on the word of God. Be in community. Be with women or in a men's group where you go all in with Jesus. It transforms you. It transforms your heart. It transforms your mind. You go from wanting validation from man to being like, no, I want to serve you, God. I love the scripture that says, by
Ari
the way, I'm wearing my Jesus Image sweatshirt. Find his love. They have the best merch. Find his love and love him back like Jesus. Come on.
Angie
I love that. It's really heavy, though. For me, it is really heavy.
Ari
I'm pretty hot.
Angie
I know. In 1st Samuel 16, verse 7, it says, the man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart. When you realize that it is all about your heart and humbling yourself and being like a servant, everything starts to change within you. You're like, oh. And then you just. Instead of trying to be sexy, you're trying to be this or trying to be that. You're trying to be more humble.
Ari
Yes.
Angie
You know what I mean? You're trying to learn how to forgive more. You're trying to serve. You're trying to help. That's the beauty of this. Everything starts to change.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
And I want to speak to. I keep hearing only fans this whole episode. And I just know, maybe I didn't do onlyfans, but guess what? I did some things that were like onlyfans. I did roles that didn't. Doesn't matter the title. I did things just like you guys. If you got. Some of you guys are listening, I understand. I see you. I really see you. And I know the brokenness you feel. And I know when you're done with it, the emptiness that you feel. And I just want to say that I see you because I was there. It is so hard to be young when you don't grow up in this thing. And you're just trying to make it. Make it. We live in Hollywood my whole Life, since I'm 18. They're telling you do what you got to do, by all means, compromise. Do what you need to do.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Not when you're in the kingdom of God.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Because let me tell you something, God will have. God will establish you in a way when you decide to not go down the kingdom of the enemy's playground. You know what I mean? And so when you're sitting there being like. But it's quick money, but it's really good money. No, that's the devil's money. And God will raise you up and establish you. He did that with me, he did that with Angela when we decided to do the hard thing. You know what I mean? So I just want to let you know, I see you and what God has for you will never require you to dishonor him by keeping it. You need to hear this. When he sees you doing the right thing and not going down the devil's playground, I can't imagine how he's looking at you being like, oh, you have no idea. For him to. For God to partner with you. It cannot be a life of compromise. That is one thing that I learned. It cannot be a life of compromise. And I know it's hard. I know it's hard living in. Living in this thing where it's hard. It's just hard. You're looking at social media, you're seeing people sexualize themselves. They're making millions of dollars. But it's not what you think it is. It really isn't. We've been in this thing. We've seen it, and I've lived it, and it has eaten me up and spit me out. It is not spitting. Spit me, spit me out. It's not worth. It really isn't. I can't believe what God did in my life by humbling myself, by being obedient. Even though I didn't know how I was going to make my next paycheck, I really didn't. I was so scared. I was like, how am I going to make money? What am I going to do? And he literally changed my life in one year.
Ari
Actually, I think speaking to the girls, I think what matters, I think that because it's like, okay, so how do you practically rewire your brain? How do you practically. Like, what can girls do today to not be provocative? Because it's not easy. I know firsthand. I remember being like, if first. The first step is awareness. It's like, okay, yeah, the first step is awareness. I want to be a pure vessel. I want to be a pure bride. I want Jesus to come back and find me pure and on fire for him. And so that's. First things first. We are called to be holy, as God is holy, and he makes us holy with his truth. That's the first step is just awareness, knowing the truth of scripture, that Jesus died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins and also to wash us clean. And impurity has to go in Jesus name. And it Begins with not only being aware. Okay. I don't want to live a life that's provocative. I don't want to be provocative to the point where another person, a man, feels something because of the way I'm presenting myself. That's one of the driving factor. First, it's Jesus. That's the driving factor for me. I want to be pure for Jesus. I really, really want to be pure for Jesus. And then I also have such a intense conviction that, like, I don't want guys to feel something because of me. I don't want them to go through that. Like, I don't. I. It's just sad. It's disgusting. And so for me, I.
Angie
What do you mean?
Ari
Like, I don't want to provoke men sexually. Like, I don't want to wear something or myself in a way that causes a brother to stumble.
Angie
You don't want. You don't want to ever do anything. It's disgusting to, like, make someone stumble. Yeah.
Ari
And I just think this is what we're here to tell you guys today. There's so much scripture that talks about being pure, that talks about not being lustful, that talks about not being sexually immoral. And in even simpler terms, I would just say, like, being provocative and being sexual is cheap, deep, it's demonic, it's gross. And it's not the life that we're called to live. We're like, we're called to live a life of true purity. And that doesn't mean it's going to be perfect.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
That doesn't mean that Ari and I are. Have a ministry and we have a temptation all the time to be desire. Of course you do. It's normal. It's. Especially if you've lived a certain way before. That stuff doesn't just completely forever go away, but when it does come up, you combat it with the truth that I am called to be holy, set apart, sanctified. I don't want to live like that. I don't want people to see me that way. Yeah.
Angie
Yeah. And I'll just add to that. It's. It's literally. It's. It's just relationship.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
I remember having that moment of being like, wait a minute, I'm doing ministry, but I'm still in habitual sexual sin. And that double life of being like, you literally picked me up off the bathroom floor. You saved my life. I'm preaching the gospel when I have no business doing this? What am I doing? You literally gave your life for me. You love me. You helped me. You have been with me when nobody else has. And that is that. It's that moment of like, I don't want to do this anymore. I want to honor you with everything in my being. It is my sacrifice, my reasonable sacrifice, to want to live for you and commit to you and sacrifice for you. Because it is hard sometimes living in this world. It really is. But I do it because I love you over everything. And so that's what sacrifice and commitment is. And I love what you said about when I face him as the bride. When you face him as a bride, you want him to look at you and to trust you and to look at his bride and be like, she sacrificed and committed for me. And so. So it starts with that. Then it starts with community. And it's literally the word of God. I mean, even as a beginner, I will read this thing and I will start weeping. I don't even know what I'm reading sometimes. That is the Holy Spirit encountering you. You want to hear from God. It's in his word, and that's when it transforms your heart. And then you just stay around believers that are on fire that can help you.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
And then I just wrote down a few things regarding Instagram because it's the biggest thing. Before posting or dressing a certain way, pause and ask yourself, why? What am I doing it for? I saw when you put up a poll, can I wear, you know, this to the gym? And it's a heart posture, you guys. It's not like, to be miserable and to, like, this isn't. It's. It's not like this religion scary thing. It's just alignment with God. Yeah, it's. Does this honor you today? And then you start to. You start to lose taste and all those things. I look back, I'm like, oh, my gosh, what was I thinking?
Ari
It's the hardest thing to.
Angie
What was I thinking?
Ari
Yeah, it's so hard to. And I hope I enter into more of a space of compassion for my past self. But when I see photos of myself with the most seductive face with the most provocative clothing, I'm like, like, sister, what is that like? But it's so normal in our world that we live in. Not for Christian world. Like, I can't imagine what the Christians were thinking when we first came on the scene, but to the world, we were probably pretty tame, honestly.
Angie
That God shines. Totally. Of course for other people. It is his glory that he has shined through you. Look at you now.
Ari
Thanks. Are.
Angie
It is amazing.
Ari
You too, buddy.
Angie
It is amazing. The purity that you carry. And he has shined his glory through it. And he's loved you through that. He loved that girl like you. He really loved that girl.
Ari
I know he did. I know he did. It's just like. I see it, though, and I'm just like, thank you, Jesus, for bringing me such a long way. But again, it's like, for everybody watching, it's a continuous journey that you have to go on because the world is too loud. The world is loud. The. The messaging that we get sent. And this is one more thing that I wanted to say. I think being prov. I know. Being provocative, sexual, being all these things, it's an open door. It's an open door.
Angie
It is an open door.
Ari
It's evil. If it's impure, it means it's evil. It's demonic. And we, like, barely talk. We don't really talk about demons on here, but it's an open door. You're opening yourself up to confusion, to anxiety, to insecurity, to misplaced validation. Like, you're opening yourself up. That's why we don't. Don't follow Jesus in these ways and pursue purity because it's like, just the right thing to do. It leads to something. It leads to life.
Angie
It does.
Ari
It leads to peace. It leads to clarity. When you go out there and you're all sexual and provocative and all these things, it's an open door to confusion, to an identity issue, to even more insecurity because you're pursuing something that's not fulfilling or validating. It's actually the opposite. It makes you feel cheap and gross, even if you're not conscious of it. Does that make sense?
Angie
It is the most empty life to just tie your worth to photos, to beauty, to all these outward things. And when you go into relationship with Jesus, you realize, wait a minute. I'm so much more than that.
Ari
Yeah. Yeah.
Angie
I'm so much more than. Than. Than all of these things that. That I've tied my worth to, with which I go home and feel so empty and lost and all these things. And then you start gaining confidence, and I can't. When I look back at myself, I could not look people in the eyes. I was like, if I don't look this way, I'm not gonna be accepted. If I don't have my to. Like, that is so low and so sad. And I have so much grace for so many of you because I know the brokenness you feel. I know how you grew up. I know that feeling of you feel so broken. You just wanna Feel loved. You just wanna feel seen. So if I put my shirt down, if I act like this, if I do my hair like this. I know. And listen again. There's nothing wrong with wanting to feel beau. I love being feminine. You will catch me going to bed in a reformation dress. I love it. I love makeup here. I mean, we talk about that all the time. But when you tie your worth to that, you will always feel empty. We need to find our identity in Jesus because that's when real freedom and peace in life. And I'll tell you, if I was making $2 an hour, I would just to have the life that I have now, it is not worth.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Playing around in the devil's playpen, doing all these things for sex and money and lust and all these things for cheap money. It's not worth it, I promise you. Take it from someone who lived it.
Ari
Yeah. God would never, ever, ever, ever ask you to.
Angie
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Ari
That's something that we know for sure. Never. He would never ask you to sin to provide for yourself.
Angie
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed of the renewal of your mind. Every day you sit down and you do the hard thing. When you want to go to that job, when you want to make that quick money, when you want to go live with that boyfriend, when you want to go have sex outside of God's covenant, it is the renewing of the word that will renew your mind. Mind.
Ari
Talking about the renewing of the mind. And just like you, you guys just have to know something. The simple gospel is Jesus fully God, fully man. God dwelt bodily in Jesus. Jesus dies on a cross for the forgiveness of our Sins. His blood is shed by the stripes on his back. We're healed by the blood that is spilt. We are made new. We are washed clean. There is something so unbelievably supernatural that takes place when truly live a life as a disciple with Jesus. Things that you never thought you could be free from, you will be free from.
Angie
Oh, who, who the sun sets free is free indeed, girl.
Ari
Yes. And I. The way that the Lord changes you from the inside out. But it's a commitment. You have to commit to it and you have to want it. I was following Jesus, loving Jesus, encountering the Holy Spirit, spirit for years while being so provocative, so sexual. The photos that I would post, you would lose your mind. And then I post, I would post those photo. I go through my archive. I'd post the most sexual photo with the Bible verse in the thing, like, and like, bless her. I, I really do have compassion for that girl because she really genuinely loved Jesus. She was just on a journey.
Angie
Exactly.
Ari
She was on a journey. But the reason why that's so crazy to me is because I was blind. I was blind. But when I finally saw the truth and I made the commit commitment, the Holy Spirit empowered me to change completely from the inside out. Yeah, guys, I was so lusty.
Angie
Yeah.
Ari
So provocative. Everything about me, my eyes just. Everything was lust. I was just lusty. I sit here today, I'm not saying I'm perfect. And I have a million other issues that I can talk about in another episode. I don't struggle with lust at all.
Angie
It's incredible.
Ari
Like, you can even attest. And that's not everybody's journey and that's not everybody's story. But I will say it's possible.
Angie
Yeah, she. She really doesn't, like.
Ari
I don't, I don't want it. I don't need it. Now if, like, I have a boyfriend, and that's a whole other story, but like, like, you have to be careful. And, and you. If a kiss can lead to, you know what I mean, feelings and all that stuff, we're just being completely honest. But, like, the fact that I can sit across from a guy and, like, literally nothing about me gives off any energy when that's all I did when I was younger is just a testament that no matter where you are, no matter how far gone you feel, it's possible. If I could do. If Jesus could do it in me, I promise you, he can do it in you. You just have to want it and then you have to commit to it and then you have to get the right people around you to call you out. And you let the Lord work in you. You spend time with Jesus, you feel so convicted every time. I, like, I get convicted so quickly when it comes in this area because it matters so much when you truly see. You see the cross, you see Jesus, you see the holes in his hand, you see everything he went through. Purity should become one of your. The most important things in your life.
Angie
And I remember when I. So for me, first of all, I just want to say, I feel so compelled to say this. I remember when I was going back. This is really vulnerable. But I remember going back and forth. If masturbation was a sin, I couldn't. I was like, but is it? You know? And I want to let you guys know it is a sin. And every time you submit to the. He will never tempt you beyond your reach. There is always an escape. That's what scripture says. Every time you get tempted and you literally give into that temptation, you're literally handing yourself over to the enemy. And so I don't know. I don't know if someone's watching this. And you're still going back and forth and you're still, is it a sin?
Ari
Is it not?
Angie
And you're still submitting to it, and you still keep doing it. And then it's causing you to do it. Cause it's that once. You do that once and it causes you to do more and more and more. For me, lust has been something that I've had to fight through. I really have. So I have to make the conscious decision every single day to pick up my cross, to die daily, to kill my flesh, to be in my word, to pray about it. Help me with this. And that's what it looks like. Abide in me and I in you. Apart from me, you can do nothing. We have to be constantly abiding in Jesus to fight off all of these things and to stay pure.
Ari
100%. Yeah. And it's possible. Like, it's. It's just. It's possible. And I'll just add to what Ari's saying. Self pleasure is impure. Point blank, period. I don't care what any pastor said. I don't care what anybody said. Self pleasure, if it's not pure, it's impure. There's no way something like that is pure.
Angie
Right.
Ari
Does it lead you closer to Jesus? No. So that's just. I have a really strong conviction about that too. And of course, I went back and forth for a while too, because you hear many different things. It's just you. You want to be pure.
Angie
And I remember a man saying to me, but I'm a man.
Ari
Yeah.
Angie
Not if you're a man of God. You're you. You are me. You are called to have self control, be a leader and a protector.
Ari
Yeah. Go get married.
Angie
Like, seriously. These are to the men that are like. But I have desires. Needs. No, I have. What is it called?
Ari
Testosterone.
Angie
Testosterone. Your own. No.
Ari
Yeah. Guys, thank you for being with us today. As we talked about lust, sexuality. Masturbation.
Angie
Sexuality.
Ari
Sexuality. And we talked about being sexual. No, I'm just kidding. Pray that we have our show in Ontario, Sun Saturday, please. Jesus, we're gonna. It's gonna be fun. I know it. I'm getting that 24 hour passport. Pray. Guys, when you watch this, pray, pray, pray, pray.
Angie
Keep surrendering. Every day. Surrender it. Surrender everything. Surrender everything that isn't in the will of God. Keep being in community. Confess your sins. Just keep going. Because I promise you his glory is worth it. That other life isn't worth it. It will eat you up and spit you out. That is not the life that God has called you to. To walk. Walk with him. I promise it will be the best decision you ever make. We love you and you can do it.
Ari
You really can do it. We love you so much. May the Lord bless you and keep you. May he make his face shine upon you and be GR to you. May he turn his face towards you and give you peace. Shalom. Shalom. We love you.
GIRLS GONE BIBLE — "OVER SEXUALIZED AND UNDER VALUED"
Released: May 1, 2026
Hosts: Angela Halili (Angie) & Arielle Reitsma (Ari)
In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Angie and Ari tackle the topic of sexualization—especially as it pertains to women in today’s culture. Drawing from their own experiences growing up outside biblical households, involvement in entertainment and social media, and their spiritual journeys toward living lives of purity, the hosts unpack how over-sexualization leads to feeling undervalued and how Christ-centered identity brings freedom and real worth. The episode is filled with practical advice, scriptural wisdom, memorable quotes, and a compassionate tone aimed at anyone wrestling with the tension between cultural pressures and God’s call to holiness.
On Validation and Power:
On Correction and Community:
On OnlyFans and Compromise:
On Identity in Christ:
On Lust and Transformation:
“May the Lord bless you and keep you; may He make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you; may He turn His face toward you and give you peace. Shalom, shalom. We love you.” — Ari (57:22)
This episode is a heartfelt, hope-filled guide for anyone wrestling with over-sexualization, performance-based worth, or struggling to pursue purity without shame. Angie and Ari’s transparency, biblical wisdom, and emphasis on the transformative power of Jesus offer an encouraging path forward.