Spiritual Blindness| Girls Gone Bible

Summary

Girls Gone Bible – "Spiritual Blindness" (May 29, 2026)

Hosts: Angela Halili & Arielle Reitsma
Episode Theme: Spiritual Blindness — Facing our blind spots, letting Jesus open our eyes, and embracing God’s grace even in seasons of doubt and confusion.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the theme of spiritual blindness, centered around John 9: Jesus healing a man born blind. Angela and Arielle unpack the layers of the story, connect it to their own faith journeys and struggles, and offer comfort and challenge to listeners wrestling with doubt, cultural confusion, or feeling far from God. The tone remains relatable and warm, sharing both biblical insights and personal vulnerability throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cultural Beliefs & Suffering: Is Sickness a Consequence of Sin?

(16:01–18:16)

• The disciples ask Jesus if a man’s blindness is the result of his or his parents’ sin, reflecting a common cultural belief.
• Kiana: “At this time people believed that if somebody was sick it was automatically because of sin… They wanted to always take the blame off of God… but there’s also so much sickness that’s not directly correlated to sin." (16:35)
• Jesus reframes suffering: not always punishment, but an opportunity for God’s glory.

2. Processing Personal Suffering and Comparing Our Journey to the Bible Story

(18:16–20:08)

• Both hosts share about seasons when they questioned God’s goodness ("God can’t make good from this!"), only to see His faithfulness in hindsight.
• Ari: “But what the enemy meant for evil he will always turn around for good… he has shined his glory through so much trauma.” (19:16)

3. When Bitterness Hardens the Heart

(21:45–23:23)

• Ari reflects on seasons of bitterness that made it hard even to open her Bible. She references the crying out of Hannah in the Bible.
• Ari: “Even through that bitterness, cry out in that bitterness… Blessed are those who are pure in heart; it’s not a perfect heart. It’s when you cry out and you speak out in your messiness, in your honesty.” (22:10)

4. Encouragement to Persevere in Spiritual Disciplines

(23:23–24:32)

• The hosts emphasize faithfulness in dry or hard seasons: “Do it anyway. Show up. Be faithful.”
• Kiana: “It doesn’t need to look like a beautiful spiritual warrior prayer–you can lay on the ground and be like, ‘Holy Spirit, come be comforter… wash me in your peace.’” (23:58)

5. Visualizing Intimacy with Jesus in Prayer

(24:32–25:43)

• Citing a Francis Chan illustration, Kiana describes starting prayer with a self-hug, picturing Jesus' embrace.
• Kiana: “That’s what prayer is… you and Jesus hugging. It changed my life.” (24:49)

6. Breaking Down John 9 – Jesus Heals the Man Born Blind

(25:50–31:14 and on)

• Jesus uses ordinary things (mud, spit) to heal, intentionally breaking rules added by Pharisees around Sabbath restrictions.
• Kiana: “The reason why he uses the spit in the mud is because he wanted to break two rules… They were just trying to be legalistic… God’s law… was not a set of rules, it’s parameters to keep our hearts safe." (28:45)

7. Legalism vs. Relationship

(36:30–37:45)

• Critiquing when churches prioritize traditions or performance over actual encounters with God.
• Kiana: “If every ten minutes of your church service is planned down to the wire, and you leave no space for the Lord to move… you care more about the tradition than the person in front of you.” (36:30)

8. Spiritual Mixture, Modern Blindness, & the Danger of "One Degree Off"

(39:52–44:38)

• Drawing from the story, the hosts urge listeners to avoid spiritual "mixture"—combining faith in Jesus with other superstitions or beliefs.
• Kiana: “Maybe you think you can have a little bit of this and a little bit of that… You can’t have Jesus and anything else in your life… Even opening yourself up to that doubt, that’s an open door.” (42:35)

9. Faith Is Humility — The Man’s Response to Jesus

(44:38–46:48)

• The formerly blind man’s progression from "some man" to "prophet" to declaring Jesus as Lord is celebrated as an example of humble, open-hearted faith.
• Ari: “All God asks for is a humble heart… I believe. And he worshiped Jesus.” (45:10)

10. Avoiding Lukewarm Faith & Embracing Correction

(47:54–54:55)

• Ari connects Revelation’s warning about "lukewarm" faith to her own story; urges listeners to let God and trusted people correct blind spots.
• Ari: “I was so spiritually blind… and it wasn’t until I had some people that God spoke through that woke me up and convicted my heart. We cannot be lukewarm.” (52:13)

11. God Shines Through Brokenness — Redeeming Pain for His Glory

(55:41–56:48)

• Testimonies of how God uses the hardest circumstances to reveal His power.
• Ari: “So many things that have hurt you and that you’ve suffered from is how God really does get his glory… You have the ability to be a vessel for Jesus and change lives through everything you’ve been through.” (55:41)

12. Prayer for Spiritual Sight and Salvation

(56:48–62:55)

• Kiana leads a communal prayer for God to reveal personal and loved ones’ blindness, to uproot confusion, and for faith to grow.
• The episode closes with an invitation for listeners to surrender their lives to Jesus and a prayer of salvation for those who want it.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ari [18:16]: “How many people feel like that now? So many feel like if something is wrong, they've done something wrong.”
• Kiana [24:49]: “Prayer is literally you and Jesus hugging. That’s what changed my life.”
• Kiana [28:45]: “God’s law... was not a set of rules. It’s parameters to keep our hearts safe.”
• Ari [36:30]: “Imagine — he just healed this man, and all they can think about is the rules. We see that so much in the church.”
• Kiana [42:35]: “You can’t have Jesus and anything else in your life. Even just opening yourself up to that belief, that’s an open door.”
• Ari [45:10]: “All it takes is a humble heart… Even when you’re new to faith, say ‘I believe.’”
• Ari [52:13]: “We cannot be lukewarm. I remember how painful it was when I had one foot in and one foot out... but I’m so happy that I listened to the conviction that I humbled myself.”
• Kiana [56:48]: “We all have blindness we’re not aware of… Help us, Jesus, in our unbelief, in our deceit, and our confusion.”

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Important Timestamps

• 16:01 – Introduction to John 9 and discussion on cultural beliefs about sin and suffering
• 18:16 – Jesus’ response: This is for God's glory, not as punishment
• 21:45 – Ari shares about bitterness and hardening of heart
• 24:32 – Intimacy in prayer: the Francis Chan illustration
• 25:50–31:14 – Breaking down Jesus’ healing with mud and spit; legalism vs. heart
• 36:30 – Critique of performance-based religion & lack of space for God to move
• 39:52 – “Don’t deny Jesus” / cultural pressures (esp. in Hollywood)
• 42:35 – Dangers of mixing Christian faith with other beliefs/superstitions
• 44:38–45:10 – The man’s faith and humility highlighted as the core of salvation
• 47:54 – Reading from Revelation, warning against lukewarm faith
• 55:41 – Call to use your story for God’s glory
• 56:48 – Prayer for personal and community breakthrough against blindness and confusion
• 60:40 – Invitation for salvation and recommitment to Jesus

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Conclusion & Takeaways

• The journey from spiritual blindness to sight is not instant, but rooted in humility, honesty, and openness to God’s correction.
• Suffering is not simply punishment but can be an arena for God’s glory to shine.
• Jesus desires intimacy and honesty over religious performance.
• True healing (physical, spiritual, emotional) often comes when we lay down pride, resist lukewarm faith, and let Jesus — not superstition, culture, or self-effort — direct our lives.
• Your testimony, even your hardest moments, matters deeply and can be powerful in the lives of others.
• Faithfulness, even in dry or hard seasons, keeps us in God’s embrace. Claim your place as God’s beloved child, and let Him open your eyes.

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Community Invitation:

• Share your stories and prayer requests in the comments—“Let’s keep that up in the comments, we read everything.” (62:55)
• Final blessing: “May He make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you… shalom.” (63:44)

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Episode Mood:
Relatable, heartfelt, challenging yet encouraging — like a conversation with honest friends on the same faith journey, stumbling toward sight and holding space for each other’s messiness and miracles.

Transcript

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[Kiana]

to pop it well i would like pop it okay so here's the thing

[Ari]

i love punching you no you actually it's actually disgusting i love to pump my own pimples you are i want a pimple of popping mine yeah for

[Kiana]

my birthday i want one of those pimple popper faces you know how you

[Ari]

do i want that i know listen you would never leave the house oh

[Kiana]

if i had that i literally would never leave that i'd bring it to dinner i'd be popping pimples at dinner but look so i have this i have this like pore in my arm

[Ari]

can i see it i've had it

[Kiana]

for two years there's nothing in there look it right there that little hole do you see that do you see that right there right there so and it like is a little bit raised every couple days i get to pop it and something comes out i swear and it's been there for years i don't know what it is it doesn't go away ggb like our our medical ggb can you guys tell me what you think that is it's just like a pore on my arm that it fills up and then i get to

[Ari]

get so excited every morning i got

[Kiana]

so excited every time i know it's full is it like no it's like literally like a little worm that that

[Ari]

this is weird see this is the this is the stange this is the stuff that you don't get to see

[Kiana]

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[Ari]

smoothie yeah i it's the wild blueberries and then they i know i just saw online that the dolesol or what

[Kiana]

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[Ari]

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[Kiana]

eat i don't know but it's just like i don't know if all is that our business like genuinely do you think it's for us to worry about

[Ari]

probably because i don't know and then i'm never eating raw sushi again there's literally live parasites that are squirming around on the sushimi

[Kiana]

i just want you to guys to know there's a long list of things since becoming friends with ari that i don't eat anymore because she tells me all of a sudden it gives you cancer or it has parasites we can't eat sushi anymore i

[Ari]

i saw a video with a live parasite there's so many parasites on them

[Kiana]

all right anyways put your ween get your wennesses off the table and let's get into it okay guys what's up oh i'm angry okay we've lost it we fully lost it that's the problem with me and you give us an open mic and and it becomes but

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we stay on one subject for too

[Kiana]

long and like i know it gets

[Ari]

past funny i know it's funny a

[Kiana]

couple minutes i know if there's a horse we will beat it till instead one that's what oh my favorite thing about me and ari actually is we will talk about the same thing fix my hair shut up seriously shut up my favorite thing about me and ari is that we'll talk about the same thing ten thousand times but somehow always have it like a new angle to come at it with yeah and we

[Ari]

can talk like we'll be on the plane ride in five hours go by and we're still on that same subject and we're like landed yeah but we've

[Kiana]

attacked it from so many different angles

[Ari]

it's not and it's still so fresh and it's still so fresh we're not tired of talking about it we love

[Kiana]

hearing each other talk and we love hearing ourselves talk about specific topics and

[Ari]

we can get off the five hour flight after talking leave get on the

[Kiana]

phone get on the phone and keep

[Ari]

talking we haven't talked and we just keep talking what are we talking about

[Kiana]

i don't know how have we not run out of things to talk about

[Ari]

because our lives are a movie hey i'm ang and i'm ari

[Kiana]

this is what we do to each other and this is girls gone bible we are a faith based podcast where we talk all things spirituality mental health the bible we love jesus we love the word of god so much oh we will both have little bibles today this is yours by the way it's mine now so is the shirt it's mine now and we read the bible here what was i saying we read the bible ah book it's a book so we read the bible and we love jesus so much we are christians and this

[Ari]

is so this is the best intro

[Kiana]

i've ever seen we were trying so

[Ari]

hard we're christians we're all on this ride together welcome welcome everybody hey come as you are just don't stay that

[Kiana]

way just don't say that way we're doing our best and this is us we're truly truly doing our best that's what i've realized more than anything we're all just doing our best some people aren't doing their best actually

[Ari]

some people definitely aren't doing their best we weren't at one point well speak for yourself are we ever gonna get bookmarks i

[Kiana]

don't know but this is yours and i find a bunch of stuff there's parking tickets in your bible is that my bible for yeah it's my now and so is this shirt i can't

[Ari]

find my big bible i'm freaking out with all my notes wait do you

[Kiana]

have it no so my hosanna bible that i like wrote i had so many notes in but this is like such a blessing i drove home with an uber driver the other day joseph the sweetest guy literally he was like a young guy maybe twenty one years old and we were talking about jesus the whole way and he promised me that he was going to start praying and he promised me he was going to start reading the bible when he dropped me off i ran inside and the first bible that i saw to give to him was my bible with like all my notes and all my stuff i gave him that one because it was yellow and i was like you know what this is going to stand out on his bedside like he's not going to be able to get away it's not going to blend in so he's going to have to read

[Ari]

it and that was that was really

[Kiana]

kind i know but we went on stage for torn i didn't have that bible and i didn't have any of my notes to preach from but it's okay and i bless joseph in jesus

[Ari]

name that is really nice of you

[Kiana]

thank you you do a lot of nice things too thank you you're welcome one thing about us is we can't take a compliment without complimenting the other person we could just take it and say thank you you don't let me

[Ari]

compliment you i literally i don't know how to receive a compliment i'm like no you are yeah you don't i feel so stupid when somebody gives me a compliment does anybody else feel like that i like squirm i know this

[Kiana]

girl at a dinner i was at last night was like i have trouble receiving compliments in my head i don't

[Ari]

i'm brilliant i love it i'm so

[Kiana]

brilliant maybe not to my face but like you can text it to me yeah you know everybody can text me

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nice things please want to write to me on instagram too what's the best compliment you've ever gotten

[Kiana]

wow i don't know do you know i mean i'll

[Ari]

always take the heart of gold one

[Kiana]

yeah it's fine you know my favorite compliment is

[Ari]

i don't know that you're brilliant that i'm so smart

[Kiana]

my favorite compliment is someone told me you're so smart i think you're autistic and i

[Ari]

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[Ari]

off the top of your head i don't even know where you go first

[Kiana]

okay everything that's coming up i can't say oh it's like things that haven't happened that would be yeah oh i thought it was things that have happened in your life okay not being able to wear lip liner yes oh can

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you imagine i don't know parking garages why they're hurt they're just like it's like being in a horror movie i i get lost it takes i could die no no it's not even that i genuinely get lost every single time

[Kiana]

i know you could die i feel like a lot of scary movies happen

[Ari]

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horror movie my rothy's any any shoes

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that i wear just a little update shalom had babies so i'm now a grandmother oh my god i can't believe i'm a grandmother do you think and

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crazy i can't believe animals just live

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out there and they make their nests with their beaks can you imagine we can't even like some of us can't

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[Kiana]

could talk good question what would you want to be called as a grandma

[Ari]

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[Kiana]

your mom nana nana that's the albanian

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nana nana's super american my nan nan nan i miss you it's my best

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friend my nan my nanny banani all

[Kiana]

right guys today we're gonna read from john chapter nine we're basically gonna read the whole chapter we're gonna be in the nlt version this past portion of scripture is called jesus heals a man born blind and it's a full chapter and there's so much in it that we need to read the whole thing and i kind of feel like the text like preaches itself because it's so rich and it's so nuanced and i love jesus and i love the way he speaks and i love like how he comes to shatter like religion and he comes to shatter expectations what i take from this story more than anything is jesus always comes back to war one thing he's always pointing back to spiritual poverty like he always wants to build people's faith and he als he always wants to bring truth to situations and he does that in such unique ways as jesus was walking along he saw a man who had been blind from birth rabbi his disciples asked him why was this man born blind was it because of his sins or his parents sins really quickly before we even start this question that the the disciples have this was like a cultural this was like a cultural this was a cultural belief where people at this time believed that if somebody was sick it was automatically because of sin it was automatically because they've sinned they've been bad they're far from god god's not happy with them and god like it's their fault and basically the reason why they did this was because they wanted to always take the blame off of god and make it so that god would never do something like that like this so it has to be this person's fault which was just such a condemning way to live and these days we know that there's so much sickness that does come from sin like you can be spiritually sick emotionally sick physically sick but there's also so much sickness that's not directly correlated to sin it is directly correlated to the original sin in genesis three but it's not that like because i've sinned i am sick in my body or i'm struggling with my mental health like it's not a punishment

[Ari]

and how many people feel like that

[Kiana]

now so i do i do too

[Ari]

that i do too i'm like did i do something always always it was

[Kiana]

not because of his sins or his parents sins jesus answered this happened so the power of god could be seen in him so this is the first time that we basically see jesus being like like no no this is happening for the glory of god i am actually allowing this to happen and i think it's so comforting for me like when i read that this morning i was just like okay so so much of what i've had to endure and go through doesn't necessarily it's not my fault necessarily maybe some moments maybe some things have been consequences but for the most part in my life i can trust and believe that if things are hard or if things are wrong or out of order like the lord genuinely wants to get glory for the outcome of the situation and that brings so much healing and freedom to me knowing that like his point in all of this is to get glory yeah you

[Ari]

know and i always say too like not everything is in his perfect well because we do go through such we do live in a fallen world where we go through things that god would never want to happen to us like you know molestation or abuse or you know cancer all of these things but i just love that scripture but what the enemy meant for evil he will always turn around for good and i just love that because i think back to when you and i were younger and everything we went through like he has shined his glory through so much of the trauma we went through as kids our past everything and he's really shined his glory to say but now look you know so it's just it's comforting and it's so beautiful such a beautiful thing and that's why you should never shame yourself because he will get the glory for everything that you go

[Kiana]

through i to go off of what you're saying i went through a season where for the first time i was like oh god can't make good from this like god can't make good from this pain and i like had such a skewed perception of god for a little bit where i was like i like weirdly took on i'm like just now realizing i'm like i took on the disciples mentality of like if something is wrong or if someone's sick or if something bad happens if your mental health is bad it's your fault like you did something for it to be like that and it skewed my perception of jesus so much i was so confused i was literally like how can genuinely how can god be good if things are this bad and now being on the other side of that and being free from that it's so amazing to look back and be like oh that was why oh so jesus could get the glory and it's given me so much like endurance for the future to where the next time i hit like a bump in the road or something i can remember like he gets the glory he allows us to go through things not because he wants us to hurt he doesn't cause suffering it's not his fault but he does allow things to happen so that he can show himself through it and so we want to encourage anybody who's listening like if you're walking through something god's not absent if things are bad that doesn't mean that god's not there that doesn't mean that god's not in it he will get the glory through it it's literally what he does can i say

[Ari]

one thing about when your mind was so skewed when all that stuff was happening to you i just want to speak to that real quick because when our minds get skewed when something happens to us or we're going through something really difficult it is so hard to go to jesus yeah that bitterness when you go through something it literally hardens your heart so i could not open my bible i could not go into the secret place and i just wonder if any of you guys go through that and i opened up the story of hannah actually yesterday and i was just reading how she just bitterly weeped out to the lord yeah like she was so bitter because i almost feel a little bit embarrassed when i feel bitter because i'm like he saved my life how can i be bitter how can i talk like that how can i cry out like that like i really do have these thoughts and it was comforting hearing reading about hannah cry weeping so bitterly that's why i love the psalms too because they're so like they just so i'm just saying even through that bitterness cry out in that bitterness that is what it means blessed are those who are pure in heart it's not a perfect heart it's when you cry out and you speak out in your messiness in your honesty yeah and you will feel the freedom of just even in your bitterness just say it i'm bitter i'm frustrated i'm mad yeah i just had a moment of that because i wasn't in bible i was bitter i was just i had that like hardened heart and once i released that i just felt so much better he can there's nothing he can't handle that's like that's what partnership is

[Kiana]

with him one hundred percent and we've said it a million times and we'll keep saying it we'll remind you if you're going through something and it feels hard to open your bible it feels hard to spend time with jesus it feels so difficult to pray do it anyway do it anyways do it do it do it show up be faithful ari and i this morning we were on the phone and we were talking about how in the seasons or in the moments or on the days that you don't feel like you don't feel good you don't feel it you don't feel him you don't feel whatever we both were like but you stay faithful and you show up and you do what you know you should do and that doesn't need to look like a beautiful spiritual like warrior like prayer no it's literally you can lay on the ground and be like holy spirit come be comforter yeah come love me wash me in your literally this morning i go hey fill me with your love and wash me with your peace that's what i asked for right now you know what i mean like it can be that simple but just show up one more thing okay this is so off topic but one more thing francis chan had a video did we talk

[Ari]

about this please say this cuz i

[Kiana]

loved that video i i want to say this to them every week cuz this changed my life every single morning that i'm in the secret place you know how i start start i put my hands around my body and pretend that it's jesus and go this is what we're doing right now yeah and

[Ari]

that's what it is that's what it

[Kiana]

is and we didn't even tell him so francis chan basically brought he was on stage speaking and he brought his daughter on stage and he was talking about her and then they hugged and he was like a dad hugging a daughter and it was just like this beautiful it was beautiful it's just this dad hugging his daughter like this and he keeps talking and he keeps talking and then he goes by the way does any of your guys prayer life look just like this this and if it doesn't why it should that's what all it is yeah your prayer life is literally you and jesus hugging it changed my life cuz i was like oh i'm not going into the secret place trying to get something or trying to give him some like no no i'm going to hug my dad that's what prayer is that's what spending time with jesus should look like it should begin as like this mutual like like hey i love you or you love me first and then i love you and now let's love on each other

[Ari]

and once you get that yes remind yourself of that every time yeah i'm just going to get lobbed i'm just going to go fall into his arms

[Kiana]

right now literally we got two sentences in okay this happened so the power of god sorry verse three it was not because of his sins or his parents sins jesus answered this happened so the power of god could be seen in him him we must quickly carry out the tasks assigned us by the one who sent us i want to

[Ari]

say one more thing about this yes this could literally be i i have to say this this doesn't have to be a sickness this could be you have been in your waiting season for a long time and god wants to shine the glory through someone who is older and wants and is you know they they say oh you'll never be able to conceive and he wants to shine his glory through that this is through so many things this is why we need to have faith this is through someone who just as i just keep thinking about someone who wants to get pregnant and is at an age where you feel like you can't and he is going to shine the glory through you i just have to say that so good because it was so heavily on my spirit so good the

[Kiana]

night is coming and then no one can work but while i am here in the world i am the light

[Ari]

of the world then he spit on the ground made mud with the saliva and spread the mud over the blind man's eyes what do you get when you read that when you get like the mud and the spit i don't know what do you i don't know i just when i read it this morning i just got that it's so ordinary that's what he does right okay mud spit like he uses ordinary things right always yeah verse seven is he told him go wash yourself in the pool of siloam siloam means scent so the man went and washed and came back seeing his neighbors and others who knew him as a blind beggar asked each other isn't this the man who used to sit and beg some said he was and others said no he looks just like him but the beggar kept saying yes i am the same one they asked who healed you what happened he told them the man they called jesus made mud and spread it over my eyes and told me go to the pool of of loam and wash yourself so i went and washed and now i can see where is he now they asked i don't know he replied then he took the man who had been blind to the pharisees because it was on the sabbath that jesus had made the mud and healed him the pharisees asked the man all about it so he told them he put the mud over my eyes and when i washed it away i could see some of the pharisees said this man jesus is not from god for he is working on the sabbath yes

[Kiana]

all right let's stop there really quick or read the rest of that and

[Ari]

others said but how could an ordinary sinner do such miraculous signs so there was a deep division of opinions among

[Kiana]

them okay i love this moment so much because what i as i studied this what i realized was in god's original law he basically commanded us to recognize the sabbath right like we do today like we're supposed to do today to rest to not work and then one of the main things that the pharisees took to like accuse jesus of being a criminal was saying that he was working on the sabbath that he was healing people he was healing the sick he was opening ears he was opening eyes and what i think is so interesting is that that they not only had a rule they were adding the pharisees were adding rules to god's original law like there was actually nothing wrong with jesus helping a person and and one of the claims that he makes is that the sabbath was not made the man was not made for sabbath the sabbath was made for man so jesus was never actually breaking god's law by healing on the sabbath but because the pharisees created all these rules and that were all these like rules and traditions and things and they called it a fence around god's law it was never like they made so many rules that were never god's original law so jesus comes and he's breaking the law because he's healing a man's blindness on the sabbath that's one rule but listen to this the reason why he uses the spit in the mud is because he wanted to break two rules because they added another rule around god's law as a fence saying that you're not allowed to spit on the ground you're not allowed to spit the dirt on the sabbath because it's too close to a type of work that someone did it really made no sense they were just trying to get people in trouble they were just trying to be legalistic they were just trying to have rules that didn't actually pertain to the heart god's law that he originally made for us was not a set of rules it's parameters to keep our hearts safe to keep our hearts pure to keep us close to them to keep us close to him the pharisees were adding a bunch of stuff that doesn't actually affect our heart or our relationship to jesus and that's what we see a lot of today that's where legalism and religion comes in that like you're telling people they that this is impure or that's impure when really nothing it has nothing to do with the heart yeah that has nothing to do with the posture of your heart or like your true purity before god yeah

[Ari]

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love that moment because he just was like no like this is about relationship not legalism this is

[Kiana]

about people this is about like for example i'm just gonna say it i'm not a church critic i love the church i love all types of churches but it's like like if you if they're if you're having a church service and every ten minutes of the service is planned down to the wire and you leave no space for the lord to move in some way or another you don't leave space to stop for the one or like follow where the spirit's going you know what i mean that's like that's i just feel like those are so it's like the same thing with the pharisees you're that uptight that you're not you care more about the tradition than you care about the person that's in front of you yeah that's never how jesus operated i agree

[Ari]

i agree and then i even wrote down you know when people criticize how god is using someone because they don't fit the traditional molds that happens so much thank you yeah and then just when religion becomes performance based instead of religious religion based and it's like you go i i've some of these religions how can people really know jesus as a father and a when there's so many rigid rules and all these things

[Kiana]

yeah one hundred percent okay so we're going to start on verse seventeen then the pharisees again questioned the man that had been blind and demanded what's your opinion about this man who healed you the man replied i think he must be a prophet the jewish leaders and by the way the man jesus went healed the man and then walked away so the guy the man never saw jesus he just knows his name is

[Ari]

jesus and i want you guys to i want you guys to see this man first he calls him what did he call him first he called him

[Kiana]

the jesus first he calls him just

[Ari]

jesus jesus and he calls him the man maybe he's a prophet so just follow along with that go ahead the

[Kiana]

jewish leader still refused to believe the man had been blind and could now see so they called his parents they asked him is this your son son was he born blind if so how can he now see his parents replied we know this is our son and that he was born blind but we don't know how he can see or who healed him ask him he's old enough to speak for himself his parents said this because they were afraid of the jewish leaders who had announced that anyone saying jesus was the messiah would be expelled from the synagogue that's why they said he is old enough ask him so his parents didn't want to

[Ari]

get in of front trouble and yeah and by the way i when i read this the first thing that came to my mind is how so many people especially in hollywood that are christians are so afraid to speak up about jesus i see it all the time yeah and you just it should be

[Kiana]

the one thing you're not afraid to

[Ari]

do about anything don't ever be scared to preach jesus seriously when i see people that know the lord and yet they're doing everything against him and they won't even say his name even i see like when i watch the award shows and they don't even thank him because they're so afraid to be criticized i know i can't even imagine what that does to the heart of jesus yeah i can't even imagine yeah no

[Kiana]

it's really sad he literally says don't deny me before men or i will deny you before the father that's right you know so for the second time they called in the man who had been blind and told him god should get the glory for this because we know that this man jesus is a sinner the poor pharisees they were trying so hard to put g like they were they were trying so it's so interesting because you could be like one degree off in their minds they really thought that they were doing good right by god you know what i mean they really thought that they were giving god the glory but really it was like all all self serving everything they were doing was self serving i don't know whether he is a sinner the man replied but i know this i was blind and now i see me too but what did he do they asked how did he heal you look the man exclaimed i told you once didn't you listen why do you why do you want to hear it again do you want to become his disciples too which is a little cheeky but by our by our guy here then they cursed him and said you are his disciple but we are the disciples of moses we know god spoke to moses but we don't even know where this man comes from why that's very strange the man replied he healed my eyes and yet you don't know where he comes from we know that god sent sorry we know that god doesn't listen to sinners but he is ready to hear those who worship him and do his will ever since the world began no one has been able to open the eyes of someone who was born blind if this man were not from god he couldn't have done it you were born a total sinner they answered are you trying to teach us and they threw him out of the synagogue i just i do think it's crazy i want to maybe speak to something for like one second that's on my heart with this we talk about it all the time but oh lord being one degree off messes everything up i heard this analogy the other day that was like on a compass if you're like in the woods or something you might think like oh being one degree off isn't that big of a deal right like it's only a little bit off but ten miles down the road you're in a complete you've ended up somewhere you shouldn't be and i just want to speak to people who have like a little bit of mixture maybe and maybe are confused in your beliefs and maybe you think you can have a little bit of this and a little bit of that you can't have jesus and anything else in your life like you you can't there is no other god there is no other way there is no other option and i just see so many situations of people being like no i i love jesus i believe in jesus and i'm just a little bit like into this or into that and could be the universe could be the universe could even like the littlest thing of like i believe in jesus but there's an there can be another way for other people even opening yourself up to that belief even opening yourself up to that doubt that's an open door and that doubt will only grow if you don't give it to jesus and i understand doubt i understand unbelief liter literally jesus blessed the man in the bible who said lord help me in my unbelief but

[Ari]

like that's all it takes right yeah

[Kiana]

help me with my unbelief do you know when i went through a season where my faith was a little bit cheeky every day i said lord have mercy on my weakness help me in my unbelief don't leave me because of my doubt don't leave me because i'm i i'm not seeing clearly but it's just just to have that humility and that awareness of like we need jesus to show us the truth we need jesus jesus we need jesus to love jesus like we can't do any of this in our own strength so you ask the holy spirit holy spirit show me the truth and destroy every lie that i'm believing these pharisees they genuinely thought they were doing the right thing some of them a lot of them and a lot of them were selfish and a lot of them culturally were brought up a certain way that's another thing too we could talk about a million things but even culturally if you're i was taught things culturally i was taught to believe in the evil eyes i was taught to believe in so many superstitions i was taught to believe that going to psychics was okay that going to tarot card readers i know a lot of albanian christians and catholics who like genuinely love jesus and they go to mass and they go to church and they also go to the psychic you can't do both ask jesus to show you the truth no matter how many times we tell you unless the holy spirit opens your eyes you won't get it ask jesus to show

[Ari]

you the truth yeah that's great spiritual blindness verse thirty five when jesus heard what had happened he found the man and asked do you believe in the son of man the man answered who is he sir i want to believe in him and i love this moment because this is all that jesus requires this man is called him a prophet called i don't know first he was

[Kiana]

just an ordinary man and then he

[Ari]

was called a prophet and then he said i want to believe believe and this is all god asked for even when you were talking about you know the psychics and all i remember going to psychics every single week living in massachusetts and i was just so blind and all he asked for he's not mad at you he just needs a humble heart yeah look at how he works through this this boy right now the man answered who is he sir i want to believe in him you have seen him jesus said and he is speaking to you yes lord i believe the man said that's so humble and that is what faith looks like even when you don't even even when you're new into your faith you're like yes i i believe and he worshiped jesus then jesus told him i entered this world to render judgment to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind some pharisees who were standing nearby heard him and asked are you saying we're blind if you were blind you wouldn't be guilty j replied but you remain guilty because you claim you can say i want to talk about this for a second i relate to this so much of this whole story just shows you how god truly does deal with you in processes how he doesn't expect you to have it all together or just to believe right away right but all it takes is a humble heart and what i take from this story from this boy is his humble heart his willing and open heart to just say i believe i don't really know what's going on and i remember that in my journey of being in that church and not knowing anything yeah

[Kiana]

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[Ari]

this episode is sponsored by better help may is mental health awareness month and honestly we felt like this was such an important conversation because so many people are carrying things silently right now i think sometimes we assume everyone else has it all figured out and we're the only ones struggling overthinking anxious overwhelmed or even lying awake at night trying to hold everything together but the truth is nobody has all the answers and no journey is supposed to be walked alone something we've really been learning is that healing doesn't always happen by pretending you're okay or trying to just get over it sometimes it starts with actually talking to someone having someone with you who can listen who can understand and help you process what you're carrying can genuinely make such a difference and therapy can be a really helpful space for that better help has over thirty thousand licensed therapists and has helped more than six million people globally and it works with an 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of when i wanted to give up and not really understanding but i just kept hanging on and kept learning and kept seeking and that's all he requires is is an open willing heart i it brings me to revelation if you don't mind if i read this real quick because it goes to what we were talking about it says i know all things you do that you are neither hot nor cold i wish that you were one or the other but since you are like lukewarm water neither hot nor cold i i will spit you out of my mouth you say i am rich i have everything i want i don't need a thing this was literally me and you don't realize that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked so i advise you to buy gold for me that's the riches from jesus everything from him not of this world gold that has been purified by fire then you will be rich also buy white garments for me so that you will not be shamed meaning purity let me wash you clean let me make you new let me do that so you will not be shamed by your nakedness and ointment for your eyes so you will be able to see i correct and discipline everyone i love so be diligent and turn from your indifference i was so blind i thought i had everything my career money that's what i i thought was would make me rich and fulfilled in this life and i realized that i was it was nothing that i was lost i was miserable and what i realized on my journey is this that he will correct and discipline everyone he loves and all you need to do like it says in the psalms i don't require sacrifice i only need a broken and repentant spirit that is what it looks like to be humble humble to stop saying you know it all that's what the pharisees they were blind because they thought they knew it all and so the first thing we have to do on and what i need to do every single day is i know nothing show me my unknowing sins that i don't even know teach me that is what it looks like to turn from your indifference yeah and don't complain so much because it is the love of god when he corrects you when it hurts when you go through these weird things in your life i remember being like why is this happening to me and as i've matured in my faith i'm like what are you trying to teach me in this we're not all going to have the saul to paul story the road to damascus where you know god just completely encounters him and i feel like a lot of us are like well god will teach me well god will show me but the thing is we really do need people and you see when paul was encountered by annania the one thing god uses is people yeah when ananias confronted saul and then the scales fell off his eyes when david slept with what's her name bathsheba bathsheba and when nathan confronted david when he slept with bathsheba and then his eyes opened up yeah let people correct you that's why it is so important to have strong strong people of faith in our lives we can't i can't stress this enough that we cannot do this on our own i was so spiritually blind when i was having sex i was blind i was ignorant and it wasn't until i had some people that god spoke through that woke me up and convicted my heart we cannot be lukewarm i remember how painful it was when i had one foot in and one foot out i didn't even really know what it meant but i'm so happy that i listened to the conviction that i humbled myself and i have fallen a lot in my journey and i have had a hardened heart i've had pride and bitterness throughout my journey this has not been an easy ride for me at all but i love this story because it just it really does teach you this is what walking with the lord is it is the safest place it is not this judgment wrath it is it is humble yourself before me come to me bring your messiness before me tell me repent to me all i require is a broken and repentant spirit do you know what that means that is a father saying i want the best for you come to me tell me let's clean this up together i'll clean you up you don't have to do it just come to me that is so safe that is such a loving father father and we forget that and we hide and we sit in shame as i mature more and more and i go through very painful things i now have noticed that i'm like what is he trying to teach me yeah and so just don't let these lessons pass you by by sitting in complaint and being like oh my gosh why why why let the lord teach you let him discipline you because who you'll be on the other side of it it's you you blossom you you you become become so anchored and so strong and so different but you have to allow the lord to discipline you

[Kiana]

yeah sorry preach that was so good and so encouraging i think i needed that just as much as everybody else did because it's so true like instead of consistently asking why why why why not you're being taught something you're being being conformed into the image of jesus you are literally becoming more like jesus through whatever or god is at least trying to do that in your life and trying to sanctify you in that way and trying to teach you and if we stop resisting whatever's taking place and we embrace it and say this isn't what i wanted but i'm gonna lean in and just learn and grow and there's just so much so much

[Ari]

beauty in that many of you have gone through things that you feel feel so shameful about and it's hard and it's messy and it's weird and it's things that you don't want to talk about but many things these things that have hurt you and that you've suffered from is how god really does get his glory and i remember how hard it was to be so open and vulnerable on this podcast and there is nothing more special than being able to look at someone sit with them and meet them where they're at sit with them in the dirt and say hey me too i went through this with you too so just going to encourage you that when we read the story of god saying i did this so my glory would shine through him there's i know you guys have been through some stuff and god wants to shine his glory through your testimony matters and it means something and you have the ability to be a vessel for jesus and change lives through everything you've been through so don't sit back and keep that to yourself use it because you have no idea how many people will feel seen and how many people this will help by all the things you

[Kiana]

suffered through so good and let's just pray for if you guys made it this far these are our warriors and our prayer warriors guys let's come into agreement and pray for ourselves first because all of us have blindness we're not aware of and all of us have weaknesses and blind spots and hidden sin and sin that we're unaware of and also for the people in our lives i know one of the scariest things about our walks can be the people in our lives that either are completely away from god or they're confused and like for me personally that's one of the hardest parts of life is like looking at people that i love so much and being like oh my gosh you're you're confused you're off you don't get it you're not getting it you're really far from jesus it's so hard and i know for so many people that's like one of the most painful parts and so let's just pray together first for ourselves and for the people that we love so jesus we love you so much me ari and every single person who's listening to this god i pray holy spirit of the living god would you fall fresh would you fill us with your spirit jesus would you fill us with your wonder and awe and majesty we bless your holy name god and we praise the wonderful works of your hands we praise who you are we praise your faithfulness we're grateful for you jesus we're grateful for your ability to absolutely tear through hardened hearts thank you that you turn hearts of stone into hearts of flesh lord i pray for us and every single person that we love that is confused that's far off i pray lord jesus that you would have mercy on our frailty you'd have mercy on our weaknesses and you would truly help us in our unbelief floor you would truly help us in our doubt god i pray that where we've gotten it wrong you would make it right where we have gone off course you would set us straight jesus if our compasses are one degree off holy spirit would you set us straight holy spirit would you reveal truth holy spirit would you tear down lies and break through confusion break through perversion breakthrough spiritual blindness help us to jesus help us in our unbelief help us in our deceit and our confusion and we pray for every single family member loved one who's away from you who doesn't know you who's walked away from you bring them back lord jesus encounter them with your spirit encounter them with the face of jesus lead them to repentance lead them into your heart jesus we love you we bless your holy name name thank you thank you thank you thank you amen amen that's beautiful an we love you guys so much you're beautiful thank you you are too beautiful if there's anybody listening or watching that you haven't given your life to jesus yet if there's anybody who you have been on the precipice the cusp of wanting to know god wanting to know jesus but you feel like you've been spiritually blind or you've walked away or or you've never known him and this is your first time ever hearing about jesus like if any of that resonates with you or if you're somebody who you've said you're a christian your whole life but you know you haven't been truly walking with him you know that there's so much deception in your life now today is the day of salvat salvation today is the day of salvation today is truly the the day that jesus has made for you you to repent to turn from your old ways and give yourself to him completely give your heart to him completely again ari and i are two girls who come from the world we come from sin we come from darkness we come from as much deception confusion and perversion there is like we know what it's like to have our compass way off and we have no reason to tell you this other than the fact that we have seen that sort of life we've learned lived it and it offers you nothing except darkness it's just dark and living a life with jesus isn't perfect but there's peace there's joy there's light and a life after this one where you get to live with jesus in eternity forever so if you want that life if you truly want to say like this man said jesus said do you believe in the son of man and he said who believed is he sir i want to believe in him and jesus said you have seen him and he is speaking to you right now the lord jesus is speaking to you and saying you have lived a really tough life it has been really hard let me take that burden from you you don't keep h you don't have to keep doing this by yourself i want to carry it for you i want to do it with you i want to handle it for you so if that's you pray this with us right right now dear jesus i give you my life i believe you died on a cross for the forgiveness of my sins and i believe that you were buried and three days later you rose again and you are seated at the right hand of the father i believe that jesus christ is lord i renounce myself sin i renounce the world i renounce the devil i repent from my sin i turn away from the life that i was living i turn away from my sinful nature and i turn directly to jesus and i say jesus help me i give you everything help me in my unbelief fill me with your holy spirit baptize with you baptize me with your holy spirit spirit holy spirit show me jesus i want to see jesus in jesus name amen oh thank you jesus

[Ari]

write in the comments if you guys have any prayers yeah yeah let's do let's do some prayer chains again let's talk about something that you're you're going through right now something that you want to talk about wish god has shined the glory through your life through a really hard hard circumstance whether it's physical or emotionally mentally whatever it is we're a family here and i just love hearing stories and seeing your prayers it's that's what keeps us together as a community so please let's let's keep let's keep that up in the comments we read everything so we would really appreciate

[Kiana]

that we love you guys so so so much thank you for being here with us thanks for being our best friends thanks for loving j jesus thank

[Ari]

you for yeah thank you thank you for being our best friends we love

[Kiana]

you guys we love you may the lord bless you and keep you may he make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you may he turn his face towards you and give you peace shalom shalom we love you shalom just had babies