BJ Tips, Anal, and Uncircumcised Guys feat. Shaun Galanos

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat – "BJ Tips, Anal, and Uncircumcised Guys" feat. Shaun Galanos

Release Date: February 17, 2025
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine (A) & Rayna Greenberg (C)
Guest: Shaun Galanos (B), "The Love Drive"
Theme: A candid and comedic dive into the realities of dating, sex, and relationships, with a strong focus this episode on sexual taboos, communication, and sexual variety.

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Episode Overview

This episode is a lively, candid, and often hilarious exploration of the kinds of sex, relationship, and body questions listeners might hesitate to ask elsewhere. Ashley and Rayna are joined by Shaun Galanos, a love coach and host of the "We Can Do Better" podcast. Topics range from food debates and wedding planning to an in-depth, honest Q&A about common sexual "taboos"—including anal sex, blow job tips, communication, and what to do when your partner is uncircumcised. The discussion is refreshingly non-judgmental and practical, centering on open conversation and pleasure for all.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life Chats and Banter [02:11–15:21]

• Room Temperature vs. Fridge Butter: The hosts debate whether butter and other foods belong in the fridge or at room temp. Rayna’s a fan of room temp butter for easy spreading:

  “Nothing is better than room temp butter.” – Rayna [09:08]

• Vanity Plates in Delaware: Rayna explains the quirky culture of low-numbered plates as family heirlooms.
• Clothing Rant:

  “Who looked at a pair of jeans and was like, ‘You know what we should do? Make this harder to put on and get off’?” – Ashley [13:42]

2. Wedding Planning Update [22:15–27:15]

• Rayna shares her genuine excitement with her wedding planner, Jacqueline (The Wedding Plan and Company), and plugs their honest, transparent approach to event planning.

  “She really got my vibe, and she’s been on it, and I just loved working with her.” – Rayna [24:03]

• Discussion on the logistics and emotional experience of planning a wedding as a couple, including the business-like energy of a Zoom meeting with her fiancé.

3. Introducing Shaun Galanos – His Journey to Love Coach [31:01, 48:23]

• Shaun recounts his origin story: from driving a San Francisco taxi (recording a loveline-style podcast in-cab called "The Love Drive") to becoming a certified love and sex coach.

  “It was like Taxi Cab Confessions meets Loveline.” – Shaun [49:24]

• Notable detour: Shaun’s experience as a rape crisis counselor, emphasizing the power of supportive, non-judgmental conversation [51:22].

4. Sex Taboo Q&A with Shaun [35:35–End]

a. Uncircumcised Dicks: Myths, Handling, and Preferences [36:02–41:06]

• Shaun demystifies working with foreskin, clarifying there’s a range (the “C scale”), and explains it's not scary:

  “You’re going to be fine. Nothing to be scared of. You got a little more dick to work with. It’s like a fun little party trick.” – Shaun [38:54]

• On cleanliness:

  “It does require extra cleaning, yeah, for sure.” – Shaun [39:23]

• The group jokes about National Foreskin Day (April 4th) and shares that outside the U.S., circumcision is much less common.

b. Lip Flip, Lip Filler, and Oral Skills [15:23–19:25]

• Rayna discusses whether a ‘lip flip’ (subtle Botox over upper lip) affects oral sex:

  “Really shouldn’t affect your dick sucking too much…you shouldn’t be doing so much with that top lip. And it’s—you know, a dick is bigger than a straw.” – Rayna [17:33]

• Short answer: Both lip flips and fillers may briefly tweak sensation/motion but don’t hinder technique after settling in.

c. Communication: Asking for What You Want [44:09–56:56]

• The recurring message:

  “It turns out asking for what you want is the best way to get what you want.” – Shaun [44:18]

• Hosts recommend flipping questions—ask partners about their desires, prime the conversation by indicating openness.
• “If you can, build it into the early stages of your relationship. Like, we’re used to talking about sex. We’re used to, like, doing a debrief after sex.” – Shaun [56:56]

d. Oral Sex: Techniques and Gender Norms [100:06–101:03]

• Shaun:

  “I’ve never not eaten [pussy]. I can think of one or two interactions where I have not, and it’s only because she wasn’t comfortable with it. Like, it felt too intimate.” [100:53]

• Takeaway: Refusing to perform oral sex often signals misogyny or lack of generosity; most women prefer partners excited about mutual pleasure.

e. Anal Sex: Preparation, Communication, and Enjoyment [89:16–94:44]

• Anal is a top listener question—hosts emphasize that few enjoy it right out of the gate; enjoyment is possible with prep and ongoing consent.
• Shaun:

  “You have to want to want it.” [90:11]
  “Butt plugs are a really good place to start—training kit with different size butt plugs, start small, medium, and large.” [90:25]

• Key advice: Use lube, go slow, communicate, and if you don’t like it, you don’t have to do it.

  “Weeks in advance—eat my ass weekly through Q1, and we’ll address this in Q2 in April.” – Ashley [94:07]

f. Frequency of Sex and Libido Differences [76:04–79:20]

• Issue of mismatched sex drive is common, and often more women want more sex than male partners as couples age.
• Strategies: Open, positive communication ("I love our sex life, and I’d love it even more if..."), scheduling sex, and—if the gap is large—exploring non-monogamy.

g. Silent Partners in Bed: Getting Your Partner to Emote [68:25–75:51]

• A listener’s fiancé is “dead silent” during sex. Shaun and the hosts recommend explicit encouragement and creating comfort around vocalization.

  “Hey honey, I would love to hear you make some noises when we’re having sex. It could be a moan, it could be a grunt, anything.” – Shaun [72:36]

• Note on shame: Oftentimes, men are silenced early via shame about masturbation, so unlearning silence can take time.

h. Sex Worker Experience: Shaun’s Erotic Massage Practice [57:45–67:15]

• Shaun discusses his year as an “erotic masseur,” offering safe, intimate experiences for women who sought loving touch, pleasure, or companionship outside conventional dating.

  “Most of my clients were just looking for love. Looking for like some loving touch, like a little companionship, something—some, a sweetness with a man.” – Shaun [61:07]

i. Dirty Talk: What to Call Your Partner [85:50–89:03]

• Not everyone likes “daddy”—other options discussed include using a partner’s name, “papi,” “babe,” or nothing at all. Make sure the language fits both people’s comfort zone.

5. Humor, Embarrassment, and the Spirit of “Girls Gotta Eat”

• Notable for frank, funny descriptions:

  “They were on my cheeks, Raina. At which point my eyes are free to open up and look directly into the butthole.” – Ashley, on face-fucking gone awry [46:11]

• Hosts regularly break to reconnect about past sexual mishaps or surprising anatomical details, keeping tone playful and shame-free.

6. Shaun’s Reflections on Aging, Confidence, and Baldness [96:21–103:46]

• Shaun explains why bald guys "try harder" sexually (including oral):

  “It’s like being short. You have to try harder if you’re bald.” – Shaun [96:54]

• Rogaine and hair-loss drugs are discussed in the context of libido impact—he chose libido/hard cocks over a full head of hair.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On sexual communication:

  “It turns out asking for what you want is the best way to get what you want.” – Shaun [44:18]

• On anal sex prep:

  “You gotta want to want it. You have to be willing to do the work... You're gonna need a couple hours to feel comfortable enough to take a penis, if not a couple sessions.” – Shaun [93:03]

• On oral sex refusal:

  “It’s giving misogyny or something... I feel like people who don’t go down kind of hate women.” – Shaun [100:56]

• On uncircumcised dicks:

  “You’re going to be fine. Nothing to be scared of. You got a little more dick to work with. It’s like a fun little party trick.” – Shaun [38:54]

• On silent lovers:

  “Talk about it before or when you’re not having sex. ‘Hey, honey, I would love to hear you make some noises when we’re having sex. It could be a moan, it could be a grunt, anything.’” – Shaun [72:36]

• On married life and wedding planning:

  “She really got my vibe, and she’s been on it, and I just loved working with her.” – Rayna [24:03]

• On male liberation and body acceptance:

  “Do I want a hard cock or a bald head?... I was like, I’m gonna pick.” – Shaun [98:21]

• On butt stuff boundaries:

  "If you want this, so bad, project with me... eat my ass weekly through Q1, and we'll address this in Q2 in April." – Ashley [94:07]

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Useful Timestamps

• Room temp butter debate: [07:00–09:00]
• Wedding planning update: [22:15–27:15]
• Shaun’s origin story: [48:23–49:53]
• Taboo sex Q&A begins: [35:35]
• Uncircumcised guy tips: [36:02–41:06]
• Lip flip/BJ question: [15:23–19:25]
• Communication & asking for what you want: [44:09–56:56]
• Anal sex advice: [89:16–94:44]
• Silent sex partners: [68:25–75:51]
• Shaun’s erotic massage stories: [57:45–67:15]
• Dirty talk during sex: [85:50–89:03]
• Baldness and sexual confidence: [96:21–103:46]

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Takeaways & Tone

• Openness: The hosts and guest model embarrassment-free, affirming, and humorous ways to talk about all things sex—even the “weird” or “taboo”.
• Communication is Key: Whether it’s about frequency of sex, sexual preferences, or trying anal, honest and gentle communication unlocks better sex and stronger relationships.
• Practical Tips: The episode offers actionable advice on everything from how to prep for anal to dealing with silence in bed.
• Empowering Women’s Pleasure: Strong, repeated messages that it’s not just okay—but vital—for women to ask for what they want and not settle for less.

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For further information and content:

• @theLoveDrive on Instagram
• Hosts: @ashhess, @raina.greenberg
• Check out “We Can Do Better” podcast and The Love Drive Substack

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If you're looking for both laughs and genuinely useful (and non-judgmental) adult sex advice, this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

[A]

There's only two episodes we've ever not aired. That was one of them.

[B]

Wow. And this one being the second one.

[A]

Yeah. I just want to get you comfortable with the notion this isn't coming out. You know.

[C]

This podcast is a Dear Media production.

[A]

Hi, guys.

[C]

Hi, guys.

[A]

Welcome back to another episode of Girls.

[C]

Gotta Eat Spicy episode.

[A]

Horny ass episode today. I was like, that was. Was that the horniest interview we've done for you? Maybe you were a little horny. Get out of here.

[C]

I was tangentially horny for you, but.

[A]

You didn't feel like the topics are so spicy. You did, like, anal and dicks and, I mean. Oh, my dirty talk.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Sexy was like, new room massage, new rules. No, that's like when you lube your whole body out.

[C]

What is that?

[A]

New room massage.

[C]

It's like, what are you saying?

[A]

New room massage, New room, new roof.

[C]

Nuru.

[A]

Nuru.

[C]

Like, N U R U. Yeah.

[A]

It's a porn category of, like, massages where people, like, lube their whole bodies up and just, like, slide around on you.

[C]

We should sponsor that with our lube.

[A]

The porn category. We should do an event.

[C]

We just.

[A]

There's massage table. You squirt all over your body and see if you could survive.

[C]

Remember the jello wrestling in old school?

[A]

Oh, I thought you meant, like, in college. Okay.

[C]

I never did it.

[A]

I don't think I did it. I was drunk a lot, though.

[C]

Yeah. She's doing that privately.

[A]

When people come over. I've actually been secretly lying to you because I'm like, raina likes. You're always like, raina likes tubs. I'm like, so I can do yellow wrestling at the top.

[C]

Yes. It's a really good episode, and we can't wait for you guys to hear it. Yeah.

[A]

All right, well, we'll thank a couple of partners, and then we'll jump right in. Thanks to Helix. Get 27% off plus two free pillows at helix sleep.com GG and Skims shop Skims best [e-mail] and in stores.

[C]

And thank you to Addie. Learn [e-mail] and Liquid IV. Get 20% off your first order@liquid IV.com with code GGE. What's up?

[A]

I just. You said you wanted to debate something with me, and then I keep thinking of other stuff I want to debate with you. You know, you and I talked about the other day, which is not, like, dating or sex related, but, like, do you know your license plate number?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I've been wanting. I've Been meaning to like ask people this for years because I don't know my license plate number. And I realized this because I had to, I had to input it into like a parking thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was doing it and I was like, when I ask this, is it going to be a resounding. Like, what do you mean? You don't know your license plate number? But like I don't know what normal behavior is. Also, I didn't own a car until my mid-30s.

[C]

Right. Like I remember my like one from high school. But. Well, I had like a black plate with like a low number. You know, there's a whole Delaware license plate culture.

[A]

No.

[C]

Well, one night we talked about a dinner, remember? And then I started sending you guys articles about it. So in Delaware it's like the number one is goes to the governor and that gets passed down governor to governor. And then there's, I don't know, maybe there's someone as two, three, whatever. But like low plates are like crazy high value. And then they're like black plates.

[A]

Yeah, well, it starts with a one.

[C]

No, just like lower digits. Like a four digit license plate. This might be other states too, but not every state has like license plate culture. Like I had like a black plate in high school. I was like, I'm an icon.

[A]

Did you request it?

[C]

It was in the family.

[A]

It was passed down from generation.

[C]

It's still in the family. It's like on my dad's car now.

[A]

And he's going to give it to.

[C]

Your nephews maybe when they get the Xterra. Can you imagine?

[A]

But you can get. I don't think that exists in Pennsylvania or in California, a four digit license plate number. Like aren't they seven or eight?

[C]

That's what I'm saying. So it's rare. So I mean, you can Google this. Like, I mean again, there might be other states. I don't think that we're that special. I do, I do think Delaware is very special. But people will auction them off and stuff.

[A]

I get it though. Like, like that worth money?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys have one in the family. It's a family heirloom. Okay.

[C]

So Delaware's license plate culture centers around low number plates, which are highly sought after and can be worth thousands of dollars. The plates are considered a symbol of prestige and can be passed down through generations. Literally. We have one in my family.

[A]

I mean.

[C]

So the first three numbers are reserved for the governor, lieutenant governor and Secretary of State. The remaining numbers are assigned to vehicle owners in perpetuity. The vehicle owners can Transfer their plates to others. So they're super scarce valuable. They indicate political clout. That's my family. I'm just kidding. You know, we're like low key Kennedy's.

[A]

Well, your brother is like the mayor of Dewey Beach.

[C]

They can be purchased at auction. When they become available to the public, they can be inherited as heirlooms. Delaware is the only state that allows private manufacture of plates for legal registration purposes. Delaware is the only plate to keep porcelain plates in the modern era. We don't have porcelain guys.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

Delaware is the only state with non standard plates size plates in current use.

[A]

But like you can order like a special plate that says like that. Bish.

[C]

Oh, like a vanity plate.

[A]

You can order a vanity plate that has four numbers. So this doesn't count as a family heirloom. If you've ordered it, you didn't just get handed it. You know what I mean?

[C]

No, the numbers are done. Like you can't just be like, I want like 5, 4, 6, 7, like that's someone's out there. It's worth thousands of dollars. It's probably been passed down generations. Yeah, you could order one that, it says like I'm that bitch or whatever.

[A]

Like, I don't know, it's like I'm.

[C]

That bitch is probably taken B I.

[A]

S H. Somebody has that.

[C]

So I mean I pretty much know mine. I can like visualize it. It's like nine. Uw. I don't know, but I guess like got into my head. I don't think I could tell you it.

[A]

I couldn't tell you a single number or letter. Oh, one. And I entered it into a machine the other day. I don't. No clue. I. I was sitting there like, why would I need this information literally ever? But like I'm in my car all day, every day. I walk up to like how have I not through osmosis digested this information?

[C]

But yeah, but then I mean, do you know my phone number?

[A]

I know the first six digits and I learned this the other day because I was outside of the gate with Melanie and I realized I forgot my phone and I needed to get in touch with you. And so Melanie had to text you. Yeah, but I, I couldn't even tell you what some of the digits are in the last four. Do you know mine?

[C]

No, none of them.

[A]

None of the numbers.

[C]

The first three. Okay, maybe the first six are the second three. Six, two, six.

[A]

There is not a six in the whole thing. You know what I always wanted, I would have died for was a 212 number in New York. They're so elite. And I didn't think you could even get them anymore. But you can buy one. You heard it here first. 2. 1, 2. You can buy them now.

[C]

And Delaware. The whole state is One area code. 302, 302 for life. Okay, so what I wanted to discuss with you is I got a butter dish this morning.

[A]

What's up? But. Okay, you finish.

[C]

So I feel like there's two types of people who keep their butter in the fridge and keep their butter out. Room temp.

[A]

You did something this morning?

[C]

My butter dish arrived.

[A]

Oh, yeah. So I was like. Well, I was ever slaving away over the outlet covers. You were shopping for butter this morning.

[C]

When I was churning my own butter? No. I grew up in, like, a room temp butter household. So we. My mom had. Do you remember longaberger?

[A]

No.

[C]

It was like, these baskets. Before my mom started weaving her own baskets, she would get these, like, longer burger baskets. It was probably an mlm. It was probably. But they. She would have parties and stuff. And we had, like, a lot of the dishes and bowls and stuff, too. We'd love the kitchenware. And it was this, like, longaberger butter dish. But we had room temp butter, which is always. It's ready to go. It's ready to spread.

[A]

Do you flip it over in the water?

[C]

What water?

[A]

You just have, like, butter sitting out on a plate. It's in a butter dish, but it's covered.

[C]

It's a cover.

[A]

But like regular butter dishes, you put it into this little thing, and then you flip it over upside down. And then it's supposed to, like, seal it.

[C]

No idea what you're talking about.

[A]

I have a.

[C]

It's like a. Like, wood. The butter sits on it lasts top.

[A]

The little cloche on the top.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So now I'm just always ready to butter something.

[A]

How often butter are you buttering things?

[C]

Well, I eat a lot of toast, and so I just, like. I was wondering. I feel like people think that's crazy. People are like, no, butter stays in the fridge.

[A]

Listen, people have been doing it for years. And so I know it is, like, it's fine. I guess you can do it. I'm not a doctor or scientist. Maybe I'll get a cabinet position. Like, I have absolutely no qualifications. You should hire me. But I know that people do it, and it does improve. The consistency is incredible. It's just my mind goes like, dairy refrigerator.

[C]

So. Yes. And then I looked it up, and I just. I don't think you're supposed to keep like a stick of butter out for like weeks at a time or in a really warm climate, you know, but like, it's always cold in my house. We live in California. It's always cold here.

[A]

Like.

[C]

And I'm just. I like having butter at the ready.

[A]

It's a great consistency. I mean, nothing makes me more sour. I'm trying to butter something. I have a rock of fat. Thank you.

[C]

What are you supposed to.

[A]

Am I supposed to do. And you can't microwave it because it just turns the liquid. I'm not trying to fuck with that consistency.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Nothing is better than room temp butter.

[C]

I mean, I think there's a few things that I insist on being room temp that people would probably put in the fridge. And nothing bad has happened to me yet.

[A]

Like what cake?

[C]

You're not supposed to refrigerate cake.

[A]

No, I'm with you on. Okay. I'm with you on that.

[C]

Cake sits out.

[A]

Pastries in general, desserts, Pie. I don't.

[C]

Yes, out of the fridge. Exactly, exactly.

[A]

Okay. What else?

[C]

So anyway, just mainly cake and butter. Like, okay. What about. What about a vegetable? Okay, what about an onion?

[A]

I do think that onions, garlic. I think all vegetables can be left out. Yeah, you just have to eat them quickly. But some vegetables, so like, avocados will ripen better if they're left out. Onions and garlic can be left out all the livelong day.

[C]

Tomatoes. Don't put a tomato in the fridge. You guys, here's something I kind of like. Not a lot of people are doing this. Sometimes. Sometimes I'll put a banana in the fridge.

[A]

Bananas are a countertop item for me.

[C]

They're usually countertop, but if they start to get a little brown, I throw em in the fridge. And I weirdly like a cold banana.

[A]

I like a brown banana. Banana. So no, I'm lying. I don't. I like a green banana. I like them hard and raw. That's how I like that. So funny. I was like, ew. Like if you spot. Yeah, that's disgusting.

[C]

If you like a sour banana, you.

[A]

Like a green sour ass banana. Was I with you the other day? I was with somebody and they were like, this is inedible. And I was like, that is the perfect banana.

[C]

You like it rock hard.

[A]

If it can you. That's how I want to eat it.

[C]

Guys, let us know in the comments if you are room temp butter, cold butter or green or brown banana.

[A]

I think that all produce can be left out. Yeah, right.

[C]

Yeah. I Think so.

[A]

I don't know that there's, like, pro. You have to. Okay, let me ask you. I have a couple more of these. And we're going to pivot to clothing.

[C]

The fact that we said this was going to be a horny episode, we're like. And they're like. So anyway, do you guys leave your vegetables out?

[A]

All right, let me hit you with this next one. Condiments, which go in the cabinet, which go in the fridge. Because I refrigerate soy sauce, which I don't think most people do. I think most people have soy sauce as a cabinet item.

[C]

Soy sauce cabinet. I guess I don't care. I've seen, like, heavy debates about this on the Internet. Like, I forget who posted a clip of, like, mustard in the fridge. And it was a couple. I wish I could remember. And he was like, no, I keep. The mustard doesn't need to be refrigerated. And she was like, you're a psycho. Mustard goes in the fridge.

[A]

To me, my brain goes, you've opened this bottle, put it in the fridge. Like, the only thing I don't refrigerate is, like, oil vinegar.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, stuff that you also want at room temp. Like, I. I want those things. Cold mustard.

[C]

But, like, okay, how about when there's, like, a big display of parmesan cheese at the grocery store? It hasn't been sealed. It's a chunk that they wrapped in some Saran Wrap and put a price on it. Why does that get to sit out?

[A]

So cheese is very specific because the way that it's aged. So cheese. It's just. It's supposed to be aged and so it sits out. Mold is, like, very normal to cheese. Blue cheese is. It's cheese that's had mold injected into it.

[C]

No one has their blue cheese in the cabinet.

[A]

But also, that cheese is usually in a refrigerator section. It's not just sitting out warm, but cheese. Specifically Parmesan cheese. Specifically. It can just sit out. It gets better with age. Gets those crunchies.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But, like, I don't think. I don't think there's a shelf life. Right. So you could leave it out for two days, three days. Okay. And then you go start with that refrigerator again.

[C]

Okay, well, you guys are welcome. But, yeah, I'm really excited about my butter dish. We ordered an air fryer hybrid toaster.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Oven.

[A]

I'm excited to see what you think about the air fryer. And if you ever use it, it's one of those things that's so gigantic, it's so big.

[C]

I thought we had, like, a compact one. It does flip up, so it's a space saver. But I'm like, this is so huge. I think this is why people don't get them. They're like, I don't have the counter space for that.

[A]

Imagine in New York City.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Fryer. Do you remember bread makers had, like, such a moment.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Bread makers. You're like, it's fun for two days. And you're like, I don't really need a bread maker. But, like, air fryers, some people use them every day.

[C]

Yeah, people are into them.

[A]

Okay, I have the next topic for you today. Then we can choose some, like, other stuff. But. Okay, so I was looking at your pants because we were both wearing these, like, cute jeans.

[C]

Yeah. And you were like, your cute jeans.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

You. Do you know that reference?

[A]

Of course. It is the Kardashians. I saw you this morning.

[C]

That episode.

[A]

No, I saw that. Just a meme.

[C]

Someone post it. Yes. Okay. Yeah. It's a deep cut. But, like, one time I said you're cute jeans to someone, and they, like, didn't know. And I was like, forget it. It's. You're not even gonna. Just forget it.

[A]

It's Kendall and Chris talking. And she was like, you're cute. Your jeans are so cute.

[C]

And she's like, you're cute jeans. Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Okay, I wanna talk about the fly on jeans.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

More than half of my jeans have a button fly. And I do not understand this. Who looked at a pair of jeans and it was like, you know what we should do is make this harder to put on and get off.

[C]

I hate it.

[A]

What? There has to be a reason for it, right? It's. I'm assuming it's harder to install than a zipper because you got to do, like, five of them. It's probably more expensive, a little bit more installing five snaps than one zipper. And it certainly doesn't make it an easier thing to use.

[C]

No, I think my jeans that have buttons are more FUPA jeans. They're not smooth.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Like, I mean, I. I'm not even saying it's because of the buttons, but for whatever reason, like, every pair of jeans that I feel like gives that more FUPA vibe has a button fly.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

You're gonna break a nail. It's a crime.

[A]

But, like, why are we doing this? Who's. Like, you know what we should do is take. Take pants that are already super uncomfortable.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That. To sit in, to do anything, and let's make it Worse.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And that first button at the bottom, I mean, I have the longest fingernails. It takes me an hour to get into that.

[C]

Right. And if you're trying to squeeze into them, like, that is a embarrassing moment. Like, if you're really squeezing into some, like, tight jeans, which I love to do it. You know what I mean? They stretch out a little during the day. Like, that is. That feels nice to zip up. Like, when you're trying to pull jeans over your stomach and you have to button them, you better hope no one else is in the room.

[A]

It's certainly not a timesaver.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's embarrassing to do it.

[C]

I know. I'm wondering.

[A]

I was wondering if other people were like, no, I love a button fly. It just. It really scoops me up and just, like, seals everything in there.

[C]

I'm not into it.

[A]

I hate it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

My new campaign.

[C]

Okay, so we got a question that we wanted to talk about, and we were like, we're not going to talk about this with Sean, but we asked our people, listeners, different questions, and this one came up, and I was so excited to talk about it.

[A]

It was about taboo sex questions.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And it was what we're doing with him today.

[C]

Yes. So we got the question, will getting a lip flip affect your blowjob skills?

[A]

So let's explain what a lip flip is.

[C]

Yes, I have a lip flip. I have had lip flips consistently for a year and a half maybe, and it is just a little bit of Botox or Daxify. I get Daxify right at the top of your lips, and it makes your lip flip up a little bit. So people get it as a alternative or a gateway into lip filler. I don't have any lip filler, but my top lip disappears a little bit when I smile. I felt like I have a little bit of a gummier smile, and I don't want to get lip filler. So that's my alternative. So it wears off fairly quickly because you use your mouth all the time. You're talking, you're laughing.

[A]

Eating.

[C]

Eating. Yes. And so again, they just do, like, six units total. I think it's like three and three. And it just kind of. I mean, makes your lip not curl up as much and just kind of makes it appear to be fuller.

[A]

So this girl. And I think it's like a pretty normal question, like, if you're gonna paralyze the top of your lip, does it. Does it make it hard to suck a dick?

[C]

So I'd love to just even talk about what happens in general. Like, you shouldn't really have complications when you get a good one. You know, typically, like, you shouldn't. It shouldn't affect your life that much, but you'll notice as it starts to set in if you. Again, daxify starts working a little bit sooner than Botox, but whatever you get done once, it kind of starts to settle in. When you, like, spit something out, like you're. When you're brushing your teeth, it feels weird. Like, it feels like you don't have as much control over your lip. Sucking on a straw is a little bit more difficult. Like, you do have, I guess, like, less mobility, but then it settles in and it's fine. But you do notice that a little bit. But some people have complications with it. I guess everybody's different. But I've seen even things on TikTok where this girl was like, I can't drink out of a straw anymore, and I drink iced coffee every day. And this is, you know, affecting my life. And some people in the comments were like, you didn't get a good one. But everybody's different. But it really shouldn't affect your dick sucking too much. You shouldn't be doing so. So much with that top lip. And it's. You know, a dick is bigger than a straw. Like, when you're sucking a straw, you're like, pursing your lips.

[A]

That's what I thought. Straws are so usually so much different size than a penis.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, you're using more facial muscles to suck a dick because you're just like the. It's more of my jaw that's. And like the sides of my cheeks when I'm sucking a dick than, like, the top of my mouth working. Whereas a straw, you're, like, bearing down.

[C]

Yeah. And, like, even when you spit that water out when you're brushing your teeth or your toothpaste out, you're like. Like that spitting motion. Like, you have a wider open mouth when you're sucking a dick. But then I got in this hole about lip filler and sucking dick.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

They do say you should wait a little bit after getting lip filler to suck dick.

[A]

What's a little bit like. Because when you get lip filler, I've never had it. It's like the one thing on my body that's perfect is my lips. You swell up a lot. Most people, like, balloon up. And I'm assuming it's not going to be pleasant for you. It hurts.

[C]

So don't Google lip filler blowjob because you'll just get pornhub coming up. So I found this article. I don't know if I can vouch for it, but it just says, Will BJ's ruin my lip filler injections? And it says that if you really suck a lot of dick, it could deflate them a little bit. What?

[A]

But why would it deflate them? I would be worried it would displace the filler. You know, some people have that let ridge at the top of their lips and you can tell that it's filler because it doesn't actually go to the lip line.

[C]

So it says your lips need a little bit of time to properly heal and allow the filler to settle in. They say wait three to five days post injection before you suck dick. Post lip filler. Wow. I mean, I think that's fine.

[A]

I would worry about it displacing the filler.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I just, I would want it to settle where. I mean, I have plenty of friends that get lip filler and they suck dick all the time. I've never heard this complaint, but it's just like anything, you gotta get used to it. You gotta be a little careful. People always. My nails are pretty long and people are always like, what's it like typing with that? And I'm just like, it has never crossed my mind in 20 years what it's like to type with fake nails.

[C]

I just.

[A]

That's just how I'm living.

[C]

Yeah. So lip flip really shouldn't affect your dick sucking too much. Unless you're with a guy who has the dick the size of a straw.

[A]

And then. In which case.

[C]

Yes, and then which case it could. Which. You're probably not putting that in your mouth anyway. I don't know.

[A]

Doing God's work.

[C]

And if you are, you're really doing the Lord's work. But yeah, I mean, it changes a little. I just, I. I love it so much and I recommend it if you feel like you have a little thinner top lip and you don't want to get lip filler. But it is so painful.

[A]

I mean, I watch you do it and it's hard to say.

[C]

It's so quick that it's like over. But it is the most painful place I've ever gotten that type of injection.

[A]

I mean, you know me, I numb up like crazy. I've taken laughing gas. I don't get that done. But just to get boto. Any kind of injectables, filler, like, I mean, you have left the doctor's office with me. It doesn't matter how great the doctor is. And you and I are lucky to, like, have great doctors in our lives. But, like, I get so upset and worked up. I get. I start to, like, panic. So I need, like, laughing gas, everything.

[C]

And then lip filler again. I've never gotten it. I can't speak on it. I do hear it's painful. And then a friend of ours had to get hers dissolved, and she said it was the most painful thing she's ever experienced in her life, which is.

[A]

So interesting because they, like. They always numb you. I mean, laughing gas is rare. I don't think that, like, most doctors are passing out laughing gas, but most people numb you, and then it's still so bad. You know what sounds so bad to me, though? Have you listened to any interviews with Pete Davidson talking about taking his tattoos off?

[C]

No.

[A]

You know, he's, like, almost through taking his tattoos off.

[C]

Like, all of them.

[A]

All of them.

[C]

No.

[A]

And he said that, like, there's, like, a process by which.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Tattoo removal in general.

[C]

I heard it's the most painful.

[A]

I mean, I've watched it done. The smell is so nauseating. It looks unbearable. And you got to do it. Like, I don't know, everybody's skin's different and black. Tattoos can be, like, harder. Like, I don't quote six times. You got to do it. They're burning your flesh off.

[C]

Like, they're extracting, like, permanent ink from your body. I mean, it's got to be a horror scene.

[A]

Yes. And he was tattooed. I mean, up to his fucking eyeballs.

[C]

I didn't realize he was getting them all removed.

[A]

Yes. And he was talking about it.

[C]

He just likes the pain.

[A]

You just Google it, you guys. It's on some. It's a recent appearance on some talk show at night. But, yeah, he said you. You go through this process, you got to do it. Like, he said, like, 10 more times. I just. Every time I get a tattoo, I'm like, I really hope I want this. And there's a couple that I would love to take off. I have a crown on my thigh, which I would love to take off. And I edited it out of photos, too.

[C]

It's so easy to edit. Yeah, it's an easy edit, but it's.

[A]

The smell and the sound and the pain are, too. I'm a fucking pussy about pain.

[C]

Well, that's the thing. I mean, like, I understand people get tattoos, they want them taken off. And I think some people think, like, I'll just get it removed. It's, like, not that easy.

[A]

No, absolutely not. It's not like an earring. You just take it out. It closes up.

[C]

Yeah. Or not. Like, you know, laser hair removal. Different vibes.

[A]

Well, we're about to get.

[C]

We're on our journey. You guys stay tuned.

[A]

I'm excited. Okay. And then there's one thing I want to talk to you about before we get into the episode. How is Wedding Planet going?

[C]

Wedding planning is going really great. We are down to two venues.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

We know the date. It's the date I wanted. Okay. And we are deciding. But I really wanted to talk about my wedding planner, because I'm just having the best experience with her. And her name's Jacqueline, and she is the owner of the wedding plan and company, and that is the weddingplannandco.com and I had met her through a friend, through our friend Taylor. This was, I think, 2021, and we went to this party.

[A]

You.

[C]

You were in LA that day and you left?

[A]

Yeah, I'd been. I had been in LA for two weeks. It was time to go home.

[C]

Yeah. And we ended up going to this party, and it was kind of like, you know, like things were just starting to get back to normal post Covid. And this woman was there, and I just, like, loved her vibe. And we hung out with her for the rest of the day. And Taylor was like, she's like this amazing wedding planner, and she does weddings, like, all over, you know, east coast, west coast, wherever. And I just always had her in mind. And we've been following each other, and she saw that I got engaged, and we just got on a call, and I was like, she's the one. Like, I want you. Everything she said, you know, you see how people, like, run their business and they, like, get you. I mean, this is something you need somebody to get you get your vibe.

[A]

And this is how I feel about our marketing company for Vibes. And we've gone through so many people. You just want to, like, be on the phone with somebody, and you're just like, they get it.

[C]

You get it. Yeah. I even said I was like, she reminds me of Ashley Pollard, who, like, runs the marketing company that we use. And just, like, the way she structures her business, too, in, like, an honest way. And I think a lot of people get taken advantage of and planning weddings because everything's like, you know, obviously the prices are so inflated and things like that. And so she really got my vibe, and she's been on it, and I've just loved working with her. And then we're going to have her on the podcast, so closer to the wedding down the road, she'll come on, we'll ask her all the questions and I'm so excited. We'll see what you guys want to know. We've never had a wedding planner on.

[A]

We also haven't had a wedding episode.

[C]

In a long time.

[A]

I'm really excited. Yeah, it'll be great.

[C]

So she is actually doing my wedding herself, which I feel so blessed. But in the company, There are like 15 wedding planners and assistants and I trust that they're all wonderful. The teams are based in Newark, New Jersey and also la, but they do weddings all over. Of course. I mean, if you guys are looking for a wedding planner at the wedding plan and company, I just wanted to plug them because I'm having like such an incredible experience. And you know, I went into it like, I, I know what I want, but I don't know even the, the name of one, like, venue, you know, especially here in la. And she's shot back all these options and she even presented ones that she was like, listen, hear me out. And like, kind of cool out of the box type thing. And I've just been so thrilled. And so, you know, she's wonderful. They're wonderful. Check them out.

[A]

I mean, it's just there's so many ideas that not you, you specifically, but you, plural, like, have. And like raw spaces sound really cool. But you don't think about like, how much money it is to like bus in all the equipment half. And well, my mom picked everything. But yeah, I planned a wedding, but that was like my dream. Like, we'll just get this raw space. How cool is it? It's like, are you ready to hire 10 different vendors?

[C]

Right?

[A]

Like, I like what you're looking at because they just, it's turnkey. They do weddings every single weekend. They're great at it. That's what they specialize in. Their kitchen specializes in it, you know.

[C]

And, you know, it was very funny. Like, so I had a call with her and again, I've met her and I decided I wanted to work with her. We wanted to work with her and then we had a zoom with me and her and my fiance. And like, I've never been on like a zoom with him. That is funny. Like, this is before he moved here. It was like a business type energy. Like, I've never sent him a zoom link.

[A]

That's so funny. It's like really funny.

[C]

Like, he came into the Zoom and like introduced himself. I was like, you're being so hot. Like, I kind of saw him in like almost a work Environment.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Where he introduced himself on a zoom, and I was like, babe, you saw you're turning me.

[A]

That's so funny. The first time you see your partner on a zoom, it's been, like, years. I sort of like that. The first time you email somebody, like, oh, my God.

[C]

The first time I emailed him, I was like, what's your email address? It's so weird.

[A]

So weird when it comes up and, like, when you are dating somebody, it's all sexy, and then you're like, what's your email address? I'll send it to you. I've dated people probably for six months before I emailed them something.

[C]

Yeah. So it was just. It was cute to see him on the. The zoom with her, and he and I are just very aligned. And she's been along on the journey, but she's partially on the east coast, so she hasn't been with us every tour. But she sets me up, and then we voice note her after. Just, like, stream of consciousness. Here's exactly what we're thinking. And, you know, she's really working it out, and so I'm so thrilled to, like, have her on and, like, really get into it with her when we eventually do.

[A]

All right, well, stay tuned. You guys going? Well, yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And I was like, you don't have to worry about efficient. Like, when I went through the menu of services, I'm like, we don't need officiant. Video, video, photo, dj music. Leave that to me.

[A]

Ashley's gonna do it.

[C]

Tessa will advance the. Advance the wedding. I mean, Tessa does our shows.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Well, Tessa, you'll DJ it. You'll DJ the whole event.

[C]

Can you imagine?

[A]

Okay, well, we have a great episode for you guys. We're really excited. We're just gonna quickly thank some partners and then get ready to get horny.

[C]

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[C]

The pillows.

[A]

Can't get enough of them.

[C]

I mean, again, I said this before when I had evacuated, I was like sleeping at different people's houses. I brought my pillow with me. It really matters.

[A]

Matters.

[C]

I can't have my mattress here with me. Then at least I have my Helix pillow.

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[C]

All right.

[A]

All right, guys. We are very excited for our guest today. He is a speaker and love coach, helping people have a better, more loving relationship with themselves and others. He is the host of the we can do better podcast. It is Instagram. The Love Drive has hundreds of thousands of followers where he gets. He gives raw sex and dating advice. He offers retreats and a weekly substack. Please welcome to the show. Sean Galanos.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And Roger.

[B]

And my dog Roger.

[C]

This is so special.

[A]

Like our first time with two dogs.

[C]

This is like the happiest. I feel like I've ever been recording with two dogs.

[A]

Not cause your tour came out today.

[C]

No, it's the dogs.

[A]

We've never allowed anybody to bring a dog on top of Azul. So this is very special.

[C]

And they're both just like chilling.

[B]

I'm also honored to be here after the multiple cancellations that I have done.

[C]

Let's talk about it.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You're lucky you're here.

[B]

I feel lucky that I'm here.

[A]

You canceled twice.

[B]

I canceled twice. Once was the zoom thing.

[A]

No. You were gonna come here and I confirmed with you and you're like, I've been meaning to cancel. Thank you for reaching out. And that is brutal.

[C]

Imagine doing that for a date. Hey, just confirming our date tonight. He's like, oh, I was gonna cancel that.

[B]

I've been meaning to cancel. Yeah.

[A]

And I have to tell you, so we found you through our videographer. He loves you and he really likes your content. Thank you. I Was like, I like, feel hate. This guy canceled on me, God damn it. And I was. And then I saw you moved here and so we invited you back.

[B]

Well, here's the thing. I was going to come visit in la, and then that trip got canceled, but I forgot to cancel. And then you reached out and so my. My bad.

[C]

But you were in the middle of a move.

[A]

Not the first time he canceled.

[B]

Not the first time.

[C]

Just in general.

[B]

Yeah, well, I was thinking of moving to la, so I was doing like an introductory tour.

[C]

You were too busy with the thinking.

[B]

Yeah, well, I did. Yeah, exactly. But then I didn't end up coming anyways. Then I canceled. Last week. I canceled last week.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Again.

[A]

Oh, she heard about it.

[B]

I almost. Okay. I almost made up an excuse.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, oh, I have to be out of town. Or like unexpectedly. I was like, no, dude, just be honest. Yeah, you're going skiing.

[C]

Oh, I thought you canceled for mental health.

[B]

Yeah, it was mental health. You had to go skiing.

[A]

Oh, it was some bullshit, man. Response. First of all, I'm walking through the farmer's market, I see a text come in from Sean. It fills the. My whole phone screen and I'm like, what is this about to be. And it was like, my mental health.

[B]

Okay, to be fair. To be fair, LA is on fire, right? Was. It was on fire.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The inauguration has been a total freaking nightmare.

[C]

January was like, nobody was okay.

[B]

I was not okay. Last week I did go skiing and I'm much better now. But even during the ski. The ski trip, I'm like, what is happening to our world?

[A]

No.

[C]

Can you imagine? Like, the state of the world messes up your ski trip. Rude.

[B]

Rude. During a fucking snowstorm. Powder days. Okay. And I'm.

[C]

I can't even enjoy skiing.

[B]

I'm freaking out. Anyways, I'm really excited to be here.

[A]

No, we're excited to have you. And also, you said to me that you went to Santa Barbara. And I was like, oh, he goes to Santa Barbara. And you're like, and I slept in an rv. And I was like, how do I keep finding these people that live in their cars?

[B]

I know you're not my friend's rv.

[A]

You don't even own it.

[B]

He lives in a trailer park in Santa Barbara.

[A]

Uhuh. You wouldn't be my first guy who lived in his car, unfortunately.

[B]

So I do have a tent on the top of my truck, so.

[A]

Great. Yeah, that's big truck guy. All right, guys.

[C]

Anyway, Sean's here, Roger's here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We talk, we're Going to talk about love and sex and.

[C]

So can we just talk about Roger a little bit?

[B]

We can, yeah.

[C]

So you've had him 12 years.

[B]

12 years.

[C]

He is blind now.

[B]

He's. He's been blind half his life, but.

[C]

You wouldn't even guess it. Like, I don't know. I guess I haven't been around a fully blind dog. Like, he's really with it.

[B]

I don't baby him. I just. I've never. I've just like, taken him everywhere. When he first started going blind, the vet was like, don't move, you know, furniture around. Make sure you keep his life stable. And I was like, oh, we're actually going on a road trip for a year. And the vet was like, well, he'll be fine.

[C]

He's a dog.

[B]

He's a dog.

[C]

Do dogs have seen eye dogs?

[B]

I'm his seeing eye dog.

[A]

Sean's the dog.

[B]

That's me. I'm the dog. Yeah. I'm the service animal. The service human.

[C]

I'm just laughing, thinking about, like, getting a sen. Eye dog for your blind dog.

[B]

It'd be so cute.

[C]

It'd be so cute.

[B]

But that's me. I have to make sure he doesn't get hit by a car. And I like, show him where things are and. And he falls downstairs. I know. It's really.

[C]

They're really a vibe. Okay.

[A]

Where did you go on your year long trip?

[B]

I was driving around the United States.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How long do you stay in each place?

[B]

Anywhere from like a. A day to a week or something. Just sleeping in the truck. Yeah, I know.

[C]

Brain is kink.

[A]

It really is. I hate it.

[C]

Okay, so tell us a little.

[B]

Wait, does that turn you on? What's the story?

[A]

Our video guy lives in his van.

[B]

Okay. But that's like a thing now.

[A]

Since COVID It's a Mercedes Sprinter van.

[B]

It's a nice van. Life is a thing now.

[A]

Yeah, it's fan lives. I get served so much this content.

[B]

Are we going to lose our listeners here or, like, are they in for all this?

[A]

Oh, people. I talk about him constantly.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But we're. We're over that. That's in a past life.

[C]

So 2024.

[A]

So. I love your Instagram. Ashley and I were looking at it there. People ask you some, like, pretty crazy questions, and the way you answer them is. It's great. A lot of sex.

[B]

A lot of sex. People really, Those are the most. The highest performing videos.

[C]

Right.

[B]

People love it. And so it's like, I pander a little bit to that because. Because I know that it's good.

[C]

Well, it was the most responses we got. We said, like, hit us with your most quote unquote taboo sex questions that you might be embarrassed to ask. And it was like an onslaught. So, I mean, this is why we do what we do. I mean, you want to talk about this stuff, normalize it and everything.

[B]

So it's fun, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's fun to see the buckets that come in, because I think that we've talked about the same stuff a lot over the years. Like, it just keeps coming up and people still have a thirst for, like. But really, how do I do analysis?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[C]

Yeah. Well, really, what do you do with an uncircumcised penis? So when I first I went to your.

[B]

Yeah, we could talk about that.

[C]

So I went to your Instagram.

[B]

Where do you show and tell?

[C]

That was one of the first videos that came up. And it's just funny because it's like, you just. You'll figure it out.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

It's not a thing.

[B]

Well, it's. It's interesting. I just had sex with someone recently, and she had never experienced an uncircumcised penis before. And I had to, like, kind of walk her through it a little bit.

[C]

Like, pulling it back.

[B]

Pulling it back. Like, how does it work? Don't pull it back too far.

[C]

Like, we don't usually have to pull it back. Like, when it gets erect, it comes out sometimes.

[B]

Sometimes no.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Depending on how much foreskin you have.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

You know, there's even a scale of, like, length of foreskin. It's called the C scale or something. It goes from C1 to C9. The more foreskin you have, the higher the number.

[A]

What number are you?

[B]

I think I'm like a C6.

[C]

Does yours go back automatically?

[B]

No, not necessarily.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, so when we watch Naked Attraction, some of those foreskins, like, were like an unrolled turtleneck just hanging off.

[B]

And if it's erect, it's still going to have a little. It's going to have a little tip there. Like a little. Yeah. Anteater situation.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. In my experience, I haven't had to pull back.

[B]

It just would pull back on its own.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you don't even. I'm like, oh, it's just a regular dick.

[B]

Well, a regular dick would be sort of the uncircumcised one.

[C]

Sorry. It just looks like a circumcised dick.

[B]

But also, when you're giving head, sometimes you can manipulate the foreskin in a way that it would go back over the glands. Right.

[C]

You pull it back.

[B]

Kind of the wizard. You pull it back up and down, up and down. Sort of like a wizard. It's like the jello thing, the sea cucumber. Yes, yes. Those things are incredible.

[C]

But we'll circle back and we'll talk a little bit more about you. We started kind of hot, but I just don't want any women to be intimidated or scared. It's just, you're going to be fine.

[B]

You know, like, you're going to be fine.

[C]

Yeah. And. Hey, more dick.

[B]

More. A little more dick. A little more dick. I've. I've heard from women that they actually prefer the. They can feel the difference during penetration.

[C]

Remember that one night? Were you there that night? We were at Jackie's studio, that really cool studio. We had dinner. All those girls.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we run around the table and I. We just started talking about the best sex you've ever had with a bunch of women. And everyone had, like, an uncircumcised guy that was like their top. So I don't know if there's a correlation there.

[A]

I feel like I'm outside the culture. I don't really come across these very often.

[C]

Well, just.

[B]

It depends who. I mean. Van guys usually are going to be uncircumcised.

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, really? Well, harder to keep it clean in a van, for sure.

[A]

He always smelled fine. But, like, I don't come across it a lot. Like, when you're in Europe, you come across it, of course, like the European dicks I've had.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And like, honestly, everything outside of America, it's not so common to be circumcised in the rest of the world. It's very American.

[C]

Yeah, it's very American and Jewish, but.

[A]

Like, Jewish people are circumcised, but otherwise Americans. And that's kind of it.

[B]

Yeah, pretty much.

[C]

I've seen even other podcasts talk about it like, it's. Whoa. And it's just like, ladies, nothing to be scared. You got a little more dick to work with. It's like a fun little party trip, you know? Yeah.

[B]

Well, also, when masturbating, you don't need lube. It is the lube.

[C]

It has its own case.

[B]

Yeah. Because you just pull the skin up and down as sort of.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Masturbation. Yeah.

[A]

The majority of the world deals with this. We just don't in America. So it is like, people have figured this out.

[B]

Yeah. And you do have to keep it clean. It does Require extra.

[C]

Extra cleaning.

[B]

Extra cleaning. Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Which, you know, hopefully you do. They do. Whoever does.

[B]

Well, you cannot. You know, some people don't. Some people don't know.

[A]

Some people really don't. So our friend's boyfriend is a doctor, and he's at my house this morning, and I was talking to him about. He was asking me who we're interviewing, and I was like, tell me about your clip.

[B]

The uncircumcised expert, Sean Galanos.

[A]

I describe it.

[B]

Other people uncut coach.

[A]

Yes. He was like. He was like. I've seen some pretty bad infections.

[C]

Oh, God. So I didn't know if you knew about this, and I guess this is going to be a big reveal, but I do talk about this in my standup a bit. And I am kicking off my tour on National Foreskin Day.

[B]

Oh, good. Did you know there's National Forest. I'm not surprised. There's National Everything Day.

[C]

4.

[A]

4.

[B]

No, 4. 4. 25.

[C]

It's National Forest. Good day is 4, 4. And that's all I'm gonna say, because come see me buy tickets. Yeah. Come see it live. Exactly. But anyway, so happy early.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

National Foreskin Day to you.

[B]

And to you as well. And to you as well. Yeah.

[A]

No one wished it to me.

[B]

No, to both of you. As what I meant.

[A]

Not to you. I'm not really in the culture.

[C]

Jewish brothers and sisters, they do not get to celebrate.

[A]

Oh, definitely not.

[B]

No.

[A]

Jews don't have that.

[B]

They don't. Well, some of the. You know about Jack. Jews Against Circumcision, that was like an activist group. It's a group. Yeah. An activist group.

[A]

I mean, I think whatever you want. I understand that some people see it as, like, mutilation and not letting somebody decide what they're going to do with their own body.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can do whatever you want with that.

[C]

I mean, I'm sure it goes both ways. I'm sure there are adults that look back and would be like, I wish mom and dad did do it. Right.

[B]

Did. Did and, like, circumcise me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, because they could just do it then.

[C]

Well, but then, I don't know. Like, remember the Sex in the City episode? Isn't it so painful as an adult?

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's not. It's not something you want to go into lightly.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But also, I think there are more people that regret getting circumcised.

[C]

You think?

[B]

Don't.

[C]

Than. Don't. Okay. I. I can't speak on. I'm just saying, like, there's Got to be two camp. Like, do you think there's men out there that wish they were circumcised and then they wish their parents just did it back then?

[B]

I just don't see why you would. Unless you had, like, some sort of condition, some sort of, like, medical issue, or if there was, like, phimosis, which is like a too tight foreskin where the glands doesn't.

[C]

Doesn't like, it's like a spanx.

[B]

It's like a spanx for the. For the glands. And it can get kind of grody in there for sure.

[A]

Okay, see, I am like an OBGYN, right, Dr. Shaw. I actually went to a circumcision recently, but you didn't expect that for.

[B]

For an adult one. I'd love to, like, if I ever got circumcised.

[C]

He has an activist group in here because it's a happy happening.

[A]

Yeah. I was dating somebody and I was like, I insist you do it. No, I'm just kidding. My nephew was circumcised recently.

[B]

You went to a bris?

[A]

I went to a bris.

[B]

How was it?

[A]

I mean, I was in London and my brother was like, can you get over here? We're gonna do a bris. And I was like, now? Like, in the kitchen right now. I could skip this. And he's like, no, come. Why don't you take pictures? And I was like, I fucking hate you. So me and him and his wife and the baby. And the rabbi comes, but he's a doctor, and he stayed with us for, like, three hours, and it was, like, really nice. He made sure that, like, the baby was okay, that he had, like, topical cream. He wasn't crying. He, like, nursed, like, I don't know, shook the baby.

[C]

Nursed the baby, Rocked it.

[A]

Rocked it. Neither of those things rock. That fucking baby rocked that. They kicked it across the room.

[B]

He punted it to, like, get it. Like, to not thinking about the penis. Yeah, you kick it across the room.

[A]

Well, they're football sized. I mean, how could you not.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Was it. Was there a moil. What's the.

[A]

It's a mole. So that's the rabbi that does the brass. They're also a doctor. We are going to move on from.

[C]

So just so sex and blowjobs. If you are a woman who is dealing with a guy with an extra long foreskin, let's say that doesn't automatically go back.

[B]

Pull it back.

[C]

Like, do you think he should be responsible for pulling back or should you? Or is that. Mix it up?

[B]

No, you can pull it back.

[A]

Back. Okay.

[B]

Anyone can. At.

[C]

At any point, do you think there's women out there that are like, can he do it? I don't want to.

[B]

You know what? I got a message.

[C]

Can he take the turtleneck off?

[B]

I said something like, just pull it back. It'll look like a, you know, a quote unquote normal penis. And she was like, ew, I'd rather if you did that. That's not my job. But it's like, what if I have to, like, pull your lips apart? Like, is that your job?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I wouldn't want somebody to, like, treat me and my body like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's such a good comparison.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A guy's like, I can't find your clit. Could you separate your L. Sorry. Your labia is in the way of your clique. Could you pull it back?

[A]

Most people like that. Honestly, no.

[B]

Anyway, so do whatever you feel is comfortable, and if you're unsure what to do with it, just ask. Ask your person.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

So you wrote this thing on your site because we asked people what taboo sex questions they had. We got hundreds, and I couldn't even get to the bottom. There were so many of them, and so many of them are things that Ashley and I say all the time. If you just said the words out loud and asked your partner, like, you could ask for what you want. You could explain something that you wanted. And I read on your site, it turns out asking for what you want is the best way to get what you want. And I love that, like, notion, but I think it's, like, very scared to ask people, like, I'll tell you guys about it later, but I had, like, a sex experience recently, and I was like, I don't know how to like, well, why later?

[B]

What. What's happening?

[C]

When? In 30 minutes?

[B]

Let's go. Let's go.

[A]

Well, a lot of the questions circled around, like, how do I ask them to be more exploratory? And things like that.

[B]

People want language.

[C]

They want language, explicit language.

[B]

They want the script.

[A]

And sometimes I think, like, asking, like, flipping it around and saying, what do you like? What can I do with you? What would be exciting for you? And just showing somebody that you're also open to different things is a good gateway into this. So I tried a new thing in bed that I never tried. And I've heard about it. I've seen other people.

[C]

You've seen Tiktoks about it.

[A]

What is it, porn? He was like, lay on your back. Hang your head off. The bed. And I was like, oh, you're gonna fuck my face. This has never happened to me before. Like, they stand over you.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And like, you know, so I did. And I was like, I kind of knew what was gonna happen, but it's never happened to me. Cause I've seen it in porn.

[C]

You were like, blowing him with your head.

[A]

My head's hanging off the bed. Hanging off the bed. Very.

[C]

Like Spider man kiss.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. With the cock.

[A]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But as I'm doing it, I'm like looking up at this guy and they're standing above you, and he had huge balls. And they were on my right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they were like right in my eye sockets. The two balls.

[B]

The original teabag. The full on teabag.

[A]

At first it was my forehead. I'm trying to get more comfortable while this is happening. Yes. And they were so big. And so I. They're in my eye sockets. And then I get to the point I move them down a little bit. They're on my cheeks. They're resting on my cheeks, Reina. At which point my eyes are free to open up my eyes and look directly into the butthole.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

The way you two just connected over this whole experience, I really, like, liked it. Like, you're like, exactly.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And now you're just. I mean, I could because I. Because I've been there before. But also I could just picture the whole thing and how it might be uncomfortable. As a first timer.

[A]

Yeah. Well, yeah, not a lot of firsts for me. Like, I've been having sex for a while. There's not a lot of firsts for me, but I was like, well, this seems like something he's into. I want to be like, game for it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And it opens up the door for me to do some weird shit later.

[B]

Like, what?

[A]

That's so true. I'm like, you knew your balls were on my cheeks while I stared up at your butthole.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I'm. I'm not shaming it. Anyway, I don't know if like the balls as a blindfold or for me, like, that's. It could be, like, throw me off.

[B]

A little, you know, it's like restorative. Kind of like when you're at a massage and they like, they put the thing.

[A]

They felt kind of nice. They were.

[B]

They were just like, warm, you know, like buckwheat.

[C]

Like a heated iPad.

[B]

A heated iPad.

[C]

When I had that shellazi on, I could have used it.

[A]

That's how you get a shalazi. On those, you put somebody's ball sack on your eyeballs.

[B]

But let's be. Let's be real here. The angle is what we're really going for in that. In that situation.

[A]

So why.

[C]

I would like to hear from Sean, like, why do you think he wanted to do that? Just for the fun of it all.

[B]

Or like the angle you can get. You can get deep without like a gag, Maybe less gag reflex.

[A]

Well, as someone who doesn't really have a gag reflex, I didn't really need.

[C]

To do that, but that's why a guy would want to do that. Like, in his head, he's just like, I can. Can get a better blowjob.

[B]

You can get a deeper. A deeper experience.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And there's probably a little bit of like dominating, you know, sort of like you're kind of super vulnerable position.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You can't really go anywhere.

[A]

I think the view must be kind of nice, right? It's like, kind of like a nice view.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Like, the view's great.

[A]

Yeah, the view's great.

[C]

Not for you.

[A]

It's a horrible view for the woman.

[C]

Did you finish that one?

[A]

No, we finished just during sex, right?

[C]

Like, that was like a four place situation. Imagine.

[A]

No, actually it was in the middle of sex. We were having sex, then we stopped and did that.

[B]

Yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah, it's a good, like, palate cleanser.

[C]

Yeah, we got right into it. How did you get into. Can we back up and hear a little bit about you?

[B]

Sure. Yeah.

[C]

We're all over the place. But, like, how. Tell us how you got started doing all this.

[B]

I'm 42 years old.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I'm a single straight white dude.

[C]

When is your birthday?

[B]

September 12th, 1982.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I'm a Virgo.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Is that why you were asking?

[C]

Yeah, I just want to know your sign.

[B]

Okay. Capricorn rising with a cancer moon.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Okay, fine. Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyways, 10 years ago in 2014, I was driving a taxi in San Francisco.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I was broke. I needed money, I needed a job. I met this guy who was. Looked cool and drove a cab. And I was like, I'm gonna do that. And it was cool for about two months.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And actually driving a cab is, like, not fun.

[A]

Not an Uber, like an actual cab.

[B]

This was right as Uber was coming on the scene. So this was like an actual cab where, like, people would hail it and it was, like, kind of fun. But then I got bored and my friend said, oh, you should record your conversations with your passengers. And so I did. I put cameras, microphones, lights in the cab, and I called it the Love Drive.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

With their consent.

[B]

With their consent.

[A]

So they knew they're being found. This is so cool.

[B]

They knew they were being filmed. I had them sign a release.

[A]

Taxi Cab Confession.

[B]

Like, Taxi Cab Confession meets loveliness.

[A]

I love a loveline.

[B]

Right? That was the idea. That was the idea. And I was both Dr. Drew and Adam Carola and the weirdo in Taxi Cab Confession.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I drove around San Francisco and had conversations with people about sex, love, and dating. And it was like, pretty low brow stuff, like, what's up with shaving your balls? And will you have sex on your period? Or, like, do we. How do we feel about sex workers? And it was interesting. It was really fun. And I did that for about six months, and that was sort of the beginning of the Love Drive.

[C]

Wow. Okay.

[B]

So that's the origin story that I got started. And then I started doing, like, writing about it, doing videos, a podcast. I started doing some coaching, and then I was talking to my therapist, and I was like, I feel kind of like an imposter. And she looked at me kind of like, you kind of are. And so I got certified as a coach, started coaching properly, then doing courses, retreats, groups, and then more writing, and then podcasting, and here we are.

[C]

Amazing. I'm glad I asked.

[A]

I love this story. And also, I mean, I think a lot of people have imposter syndrome in the beginning. I mean, Mel Robbins will be on the show this week. Is a perfect example of somebody who just, at first 41, just came up with this concept that kind of helped her and her life. And some friends liked it. And she was speaking at, like, schools and churches and then did one of the first TED Talks. And, like, you just have to do the tiny thing first.

[B]

Yeah. You know, and keep doing it. Keep doing some version of.

[A]

Of it, you know, I love that.

[C]

And I also love that your therapist was like, you kind of are. You get more certified.

[B]

She was right.

[C]

You were like, oh, right, okay.

[B]

I was totally coaching people, like, off the cuff, not really knowing, like, the strategies and the protocols and. And that made me a more effective coach once I got certified.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So do you talk to Uber drivers now, like, for. Just for the rush of it all?

[B]

No. God.

[C]

Oh, my God, you've overcorrected your.

[B]

Don't talk. Don't talk to me. Yeah, yeah, don't talk to me.

[A]

You.

[C]

You turn it on them. You just ask your driver. You're like, so anyway, what about Shaving those balls.

[B]

Yeah. The worst is just. Yeah, no, I don't want to talk to my. I don't really want to talk to that many people.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. And you also. Are you a certified, like, was like, crisis and rape counselor also?

[B]

I was. Yeah. In. In California, back in Oakland. I got certified as a. As a rape crisis counselor. And so it would do, like, hotline stuff for sexual assault.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

That's admirable work.

[B]

It was interesting. I thought it was going to be harder than it was, but if you're able to say things like sexual assault and rape and talk about it in a non judgmental way or in sort of like a. Without any fear, then that's all really. They. People just want support. They want someone that they can talk to. And we had protocols about, like, when they say this, say this, and here are the resources that you can give them. We're sort of just like frontline defense. What are you smiling at?

[A]

I just think it's really nice.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't know that a lot of men just, like, wake up one day and are like, I want to counsel women in crisis. What are you smiling about? I don't know.

[B]

Sorry. I don't know. I thought, yeah.

[A]

Sheesh.

[C]

This guy sucks.

[B]

It was a sweet thing to do. It was.

[C]

Okay, so now we feel that you are qualified to continue the conversation.

[B]

Okay. I thought maybe just the content. How I answered the questions was qualifying.

[A]

No, it was too.

[C]

But we wanted to back up. I feel like our audience is like, who is this?

[B]

A little background. A little background is nice. A little background is nice.

[A]

I used to ask people, what gives you the right? Which is like an old quote from the office, and people didn't like it.

[C]

Some people got it. But there was one time I was like. I think we said we. We both felt like it's time to stop asking that.

[A]

Somebody was like, the fuck did you say to me? Base. That was the tone.

[B]

Yeah. What did you like, a real. Like a real expert?

[C]

Probably.

[B]

Yeah, probably.

[A]

And if you don't really know the reference, like, it can sound a little rude.

[B]

Like, I wouldn't have known it, but I would have answered it.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, we're just going to take a quick break on topic today. Raina, I have a question for you. How would you feel if you lost your libido?

[A]

My sex drive? Is that like, a serious question? I never recover.

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[A]

Okay.

[C]

Like Raina said, I mean, we couldn't. People were chomping at the bit to give us their submissions. So should we just kind of tackle some.

[A]

Yeah. A lot of this, really that came in was about asking for what you want in bed, whether it's like, to be kinkier, more exploratory, to have more sex, to try new positions. And we can tackle a bunch of this. But a lot of people really are scared to just look at their partner and say, like, I want something different.

[B]

Yeah. I think it's the. The longer you don't talk about sex, the harder it is to talk about sex. Right. It sort of just gets kind of rote, you know, you're like, oh, we don't talk about it. We have sex in a very specific way. And yet there's some desire to have more exploratory sex. And so I think it's just someone has to go first.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we talked about that, I think, early on with Ian Kerner, which when you are starting a relationship, everything's so hot and heavy and the spontaneous desire is there and it's just going great. And so you don't talk about it, and then you don't have the tools, so you've never talked about it. It's always just sort of happened and it's been fine, and then it stops happening in that way. And you have never had the conversations and you don't have the language. So it's just like, talk about it early on so you at least feel comfortable even when things are going great. I guess what I'm saying, people wait for, like, a problem to arise.

[B]

Yeah. If you can, like, build it into the early stages of your relationship. We're used to talking about sex. We're used to, like, doing a debrief after sex. Oh, how was that for you? What did you love? What would you have loved more of? What were you, like, not a huge fan of? You can get used to that. I think that's. It's going to make it a lot easier. By the way, do we think Ian Kerner has done, like, the most for women getting more orgasms?

[A]

We love him.

[B]

Oh, my God. That book was a game changer for me.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

100% game changer.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

The book is she Comes First. Yeah.

[B]

The techniques in that were, like, pretty simple but very effective.

[C]

So when did you read that in your journey? Before you got into this or during?

[B]

Earlier than that, I think, because I've always. I've always been into it, personally speaking.

[A]

How to better?

[B]

How to better. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, I also did a stint as an erotic masseur for a year. Like, happy ending massages for women.

[A]

You were doing that for a job?

[B]

Yeah, Right.

[C]

Now calm down.

[B]

Yeah, I'm.

[A]

I'm fine.

[B]

And I used a lot of Ian Kerner's techniques, by the way.

[A]

How did you get into that?

[B]

This was after the tattoo taxi thing. Okay. So I have a friend.

[C]

The taxis.

[B]

It was. Was after the taxi.

[A]

You filmed this too?

[B]

Actually, I didn't film it, but my friend who gave me the idea of the taxi thing also gave me the idea of. She's like, you should be like a male escort or something.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I was like, yeah, okay. But then you start thinking about being a male escort, and it's, like, not that straightforward. There's no real marketplace for it. Right. There's a marketplace for female sex workers servicing men, but the other way around doesn't really exist. And then there was that show on hbo. What was it called? It was basically a show about a regular dude becoming like a sex worker or something.

[C]

Yeah. I don't remember.

[A]

What's it called? Hong Hung.

[B]

Yes. Thank you.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So I was like, oh, I could be like that guy. But the reality is that. That, like, what am I doing? Like, hanging out in, like, hotel lobbies. But I decided, oh, if females. If women can. Can give erotic massages, then I should be able to give.

[C]

So, like, paid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like through a Starbucks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so I started doing erotic massage on. I, like, I would advertise on Craigslist.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

For like, a sensual massage for women experience. Because a lot of women were like, back then in Craigslist, there was the casual encounters.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think what women were looking for casual sex. But. But the reality of looking for casual sex on the Internet is, like, actually not quite. Not very safe, low, like, success rate. Right. Like, you probably end up meeting a whole bunch of creepy dudes or, like, a waste of time. And so I wanted to offer, like, an experience that was like, you come, you get a massage, you get off, you go home.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Well, also, women want a little more intimacy. Like, it's like the perfect mix. I want to get off, I want to have a experience with a guy, but I want it to feel a little more intimate than come over and just fuck me.

[B]

Yeah. And I want to leave after. Like, I don't want to stay at your weird house or you know, like there must be like total weird dingy situations that, that people are getting themselves into to have casual sex.

[A]

Well, there's this dance of like, when can I leave? When can you leave?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You would go there though. You would.

[B]

No, they, this was, this happened at my place.

[C]

They came to you.

[A]

Did you list your, do you put your photo.

[B]

I put a bunch of photos, but you couldn't really tell. You couldn't see my face.

[C]

Hands.

[B]

Sexy hands. Yeah. No, and I had a good description, like, you know, educated, 33 year old.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You know, the whole thing. And then I would be like explicitly vague about what was, would, what would go on.

[A]

So like, what did you learn from this about like women's pleasure and what they want?

[B]

It's a lot like a Rubik's cube. It's not very straightforward. Right. There's a lot of hang ups that, that women have around like letting go, which I think makes a lot of sense. I think safety was like a very important. It's a very important piece of being able to experience pleasure and orgasm. And so some women just didn't get there because it was such like a totally just like a weird experience. Even though I did everything I could to like, like make them feel safe. And what were they looking for? What were their boundaries? You know, the whole space was like very inviting and warm and lovely. But what I learned the most is that I just had. Most of my clients were just looking for love. Looking for like some loving touch, like a little companionship, something, some, some. A sweetness with a man, you know.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And it was a beautiful experience.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was also like very hard to continue to do that work.

[A]

Work.

[B]

It was like energetically expensive to like give out that much care and tenderness towards strangers basically.

[A]

But to your point, it is different than like what we kind of know to be like the man hiring a female sex worker experience, which is like walk in, leave. Yeah, this sounds much more intimate.

[B]

Oh, there was like a sitting on the couch, there was soft music, I had lavender tea. Like we sort of had to like kind of warm up into the experience.

[C]

I am just dying to know every single One of those women's stories. Like, because I'm sure some were in relationships.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like sexless or just not being satisfied. I'm sure some just were single and had been for a long time. I mean, widows. Okay.

[B]

Divorcees. People that were, like, not conventionally attractive and people in sexless marriages.

[A]

Was there a specific age range or was it huge?

[B]

Was like mainly 30s and 40s.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I didn't screen also. I didn't like, hey, send me your pictures or something. It was just like, if you book, you book.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's interesting. There was a lot of, like, talking ahead of time and just getting comfortable. And I mean, women need to feel like that, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For sure.

[C]

This should have been, like the whole time. I mean, I'm so fascinated by this. I mean, and we. We had on this, I mean, male sex worker years ago. We didn't end up airing it. Like, the episode. Wasn't he just. It wasn't good. But you. But he would be hired a lot, just as more of even a date. Remember? Like, he had a lot of high power women clientele that just needed, like, arm candy, essentially, or like dates to, like, events and stuff.

[A]

Like, he would travel with them quite a bit. There's only two episodes we've ever not aired. That was one of them.

[B]

Wow. And this one being the second one.

[A]

Yeah. I just want to get you comfortable with the notion this isn't coming out, you know, that's cool.

[B]

I'm really glad I came out here. Got a little bottle of water. Water.

[C]

You know, I'm fascinated by your whole trajectory.

[B]

It's been weird. It's been weird. It's been a weird trajectory, for sure. Very non traditional.

[C]

But, you know, I love that you. You really walk the walk.

[A]

Were you in a relationship with anybody?

[B]

No. And that also made dating kind of hard.

[C]

Sure. And you would disclose it?

[B]

Yeah, I disclose everything.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I disclose everything.

[A]

I think it could. It's just not for everybody, you know, Even if you're like, this is professional. This is fine. I was getting a massage from some guy. He talked about his girlfriend the whole time. That guy in Santa Barbara.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that cool?

[A]

I actually have never talked.

[C]

Really Open up to Raina. She's a very.

[B]

I don't want to talk in my massage. I don't want to talk.

[A]

The only. I get a lot of massages. It's like my expensive guilty pleasure. But he's the only person to talk to me during a massage. But I don't know. We just started Chatting, and I was having fun, and I don't know. It was a weird week.

[C]

Yeah, you don't do that a lot. That was like a.

[B]

It was a weird week one off. Wait, was this after the fires?

[A]

No, it was just like, a week.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Summer. And I was just kind of bored.

[B]

Okay. Do you ever get a massage and wondered yourself or think like, oh, it'd be nice if this went a.

[A]

A little extra every time.

[B]

That's what I was offering. It was the massage plus a little extra.

[C]

Yeah. And. And people, like, again, we speak about this very sensitively because there's nothing more disgusting than, like, an unconsensual.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Sexual act. There was, like, a whole thing years ago with that one chain. I mean, it was sickening. So. Yes. But, like, I've gotten that massage. I mean, I was on some press trip, and then the PR company, like, set me up with the hottest masseuse at the hotel, and he walked out. I was like, is this real life?

[A]

Life?

[C]

Like, I was like, he's gonna be on my body. You know, like, towards the end, I was like, I would love for this to go to the next.

[B]

Yeah. What would be the next level? Just him touching you?

[C]

Well, I have not experienced this, and Raina can speak on it, but I think, yeah, you're in that area anyway, and it just kind of starts to creep up. Right.

[B]

That was basically the move is that I would. I would just tease the hell out of them.

[A]

Huh.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, the teasing.

[B]

Yeah. So, like, getting real close, but not ever getting there. And then I would. Then at some point, I would say, would you like me to continue? And they'd be like, yes.

[C]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

A lot of buy in. A lot of buy in.

[C]

I mean, a lot of women have had, A, this fantasy or B, this experience, so it makes total sense why.

[A]

It'S just so sexy. I don't care what the person looks like either. Like, it's just. I actually get a little uncomfortable when the guy's, like, too hot because I'm like, I can't, like, relax as much as I want to.

[C]

I also had an experience with a. With a massage I got once in Atlanta, and I. It just felt like the guy was. His tone was a little too sexy for me. It made me very uncomfortable.

[B]

And then you can't relax into that.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

You're, like, on edge the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, man. Massages are crazy. Just, like, pain to get touched by another human being.

[A]

But, like, how often do you meet a total stranger and you are butt Naked. Within three minutes, their hands are all over your body. Like, it's a really interesting, like, exchange of trust.

[C]

At the guy.

[B]

Yeah. At the guy. Know they're not all over your body. Like, start massaging your feet. Yeah, it was like in the stirrups.

[C]

Oh, my God. But I've. I've mostly, like, for years now. I feel like I request women. I just. I just feel more comfortable.

[A]

Yeah, I do too.

[B]

Me too. Yeah.

[C]

You don't.

[A]

Recently, at Den mother, I request a woman.

[C]

As of last on education, there are two guys in New York. Here, there's two guys.

[A]

There's two guys I ping pong back and forth for.

[C]

She had, like, a secret massage life. Like, I would be like, I wouldn't hear from her for a couple hours and be like, what? Where have you been? And she just. It came out that she was going, like, weekly to get these secret massages.

[B]

What were they? Just regular massages.

[A]

Just regular massages.

[B]

Okay. Just secret. Not telling your friends.

[A]

That's my self. That's my self help. You know, I just like to get a massage. We're in constant communication. It never stops. If she doesn't hear from me for, like an hour, I'm probably at a massage.

[B]

Right. Concern.

[A]

I think there's a lot of shame in women. We got a ton of questions about this. People ask us all the time. I can't come from penetrative sex. I can only come from oral. I can only come from a toy. Was there, like, a big range in terms of, like, how people got off and what they wanted, how long it took?

[B]

Yeah. And I. I mean, I always say this. I'm always honest about, like, the success rate was not. It was, like, probably 50%.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and like, I do, you know the Endless Honeymoon podcast with Moshe Casher and Natasha?

[C]

Oh, we know Moshe, Natasha.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was on their podcast, and Natasha just roasted the out of. Actually, both of them roasted the out of me for having such a low success rate. They're like, no wonder no one came back to see you more than once if you're only doing it, like, half the time.

[A]

I want to stand up for you, though. Women do not get off 50% of the time. Not even close.

[C]

Strangers home.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I thought I was doing okay.

[C]

We're in our head, even in our safe space with our. With our partner, you know, so to be in this, like, strange place with this stranger.

[B]

I mean, yeah, I was trying to provide a loving, of course, caring, sexy experience.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

And so if you came, I think that that was great. But also, there's a limit to the length of the massage, you know, and, like, if I'm sweating, trying to make it happen, it's not cute for anybody.

[C]

Yeah, you're, like, fighting for your life.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Well. And also, like, I didn't go down on them. I only use my hands.

[A]

Okay. So, like, you are limited.

[B]

I'm very. I'm very limited. Yeah. And Ian Kerner's book, you know, there's some mouth action in there.

[A]

Totally. I don't know that everybody can get off from just, like, clitoral stimulation.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, and with a stranger in their.

[B]

Home for the first time.

[A]

Totally.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So, I don't know. I think that, like. Like, sex can be really enjoyable even without the orgasm. For me, like, I can still have fun and enjoy the experience. Like. Yeah. What? I like to have an orgasm. Great. But, like, the whole time leading up to that is really so fun for me, regardless.

[C]

Well, let's get into some of these other questions.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

Okay. So I love this one.

[B]

And we didn't even get into a question.

[C]

Oh, yeah, let's get into a question. First question.

[B]

This happens all the time. This happens all.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

This is how we like to do it. It's just, like, easy flow. Okay, first question. My boyfriend is dead silent during sex. I've tried to tell him to make literally any sound. He's proposing this year, and I think it's time to celebrate by making him make a noise.

[B]

Hilarious.

[A]

Doesn't emote during sex.

[B]

I talked about this on my podcast today. We had a listener call in.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Saying, what's the deal with guys not making any noises?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's weird. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, I think there's. I don't know. Where does that come from? Is that, like, shame? I guess.

[C]

Yeah. Insecure. I mean, not wanting to sound silly sounds silly.

[A]

I don't think that dirty talk comes natural to your average person. I think it takes time to build up to that, I think. And I certainly don't have a penis. But I think trying to feel like, can I come? I don't want to come too soon. Like, I am. I'm assuming people are like, I don't want to come too fast, so I have to be quiet takes me out.

[B]

Of it, I guess. You know, interestingly enough, in Tantra, moaning and making noise is a way to, like, release pressure. And so it's a way to move energy and sort of, like, stuck energy in A tantric, and I'm not a tantra expert, but in, like, a tantric way, if you're all, like, kind of tense, then you can end up coming faster. Right. Like, think about yourself if you're trying to come. Sometimes you, like, tense.

[C]

Tense up. Yeah.

[B]

And so moaning will, like, release energy and sort of, like, make it flow freer.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

In a way that, you know, could prevent you from actually coming to some suit.

[C]

I mean, I'd want more information. Like, I don't even know if she is wanting dirty talk. I think she's wanting literally anything. But then, you know, we had a friend recently, and she told us she slept with a guy and he moaned like a woman. And I was like, oh, like a. Yeah.

[B]

No. Yeah. No, it has to be like. Like, it has to be, like, a little bit.

[C]

And I never. I, like, gasped. I was like, oh, my. I don't know what I would do. And, like, I wouldn't want to shame somebody for their sounds they were making. But if I feel like if I was with a guy and he was, like. He was making the sounds I was making.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

We don't know who's making what.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay, but wait, I think in. In she comes first there. I mean, when you're going down on a woman and you're moaning, you can, like, make the vibrate. Like, that whole area kind of like.

[C]

Yeah, those are great sounds.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So use that. But when you're having sex, use a deeper like mode.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think it just takes some people out of it. I think a lot of men struggle to not come too quickly. Or if you're just hearing a bunch of noises, maybe that takes you out of it. You can't, like, focus and concentrate on coming. But I've dealt with this before with a partner that just did not emote, like, any. Like, I would look down at him and I'd be like, am I bothering you? Like, this is crazy. Like, you're not making any noises at all. And he. I mean, we just never got there. But, like, my advice to people is, like, tell your partner. Like, it really. It turns me on to know that you're turned on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, flip it around and say, like, it's really. It's exciting for me to hear this out of you. You know, I. I really like it when you make noises. I would love to make. Hear you make noise.

[B]

Yeah. If you made a noise. Here's the thing, though. I think boys are used to being really quiet when they're masturbating because they feel ashamed, or they've had parents shame them for masturbating. So they're used to just being kind of furtively pleasing themselves, and that just sort of translates into relationships.

[C]

I mean, my tip is to ask a yes or no question. Like, see if you can get something out of them. Like, maybe they need to break the barrier. I mean, I would like her to just say, like, do you like this? You know, like, get them to say anything to, like, break through and see if you can get that out of them.

[B]

Like, and you can't answer with a. With a yes or no. So you have to go, ah, that's a moon right there.

[C]

They could answer with that. All I'm saying is, like, let's do a test here. Like, let's really give it your all. You know, really be having great sex with your partner, and then just be like, do you like it? And see what happens. Is he gonna just freeze? Do nothing? Like, I feel like if we could just get there, make it easy on him again. I don't know if she just wants a moan or if she wants dirty talk, but, like. Like, you cannot expect someone who's never made a sound in their life to start proactively dirty talking. You've got to ask them a question.

[B]

But even. Even more than that, talk about it before or when you're not having sex.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Hey, honey, I would love to hear you make some noises when we're having sex. It could be a moan, it could be a grunt, anything. Like, it would just turn me on a lot if I could hear you a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love feeling you. I want to hear you.

[C]

Yeah, but just, I think, give it a whirlwind. Do you like it? See what happens?

[A]

Yes or no questions?

[B]

No.

[A]

You don't seem like you, like, also.

[C]

To your point, like, what if he starts making noises and it's real bad, like these?

[A]

Well, because we've heard longcomer Shane Gillis.

[B]

Has a joke about how he sounds like a pug fighting for his life.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You could see that, though, looking at him.

[B]

Totally. But, like, maybe at some point, maybe you're like, do I want that? Or do I want silence so I can just concentrate on myself?

[C]

Plot twist. He does not propose, Greg. She's like. So we started making noise. Yeah.

[A]

It was the wrong one.

[C]

The wrong ones.

[B]

You want to know that now?

[C]

Yeah. Before the marriage, I just.

[A]

I want to give people space to, like, do what they want in the bedroom. Like, I like a lot of noises and a lot of Talking and dirty talk. And like, that's what I like. But, like, that might take somebody out of it. So maybe you're like. What I like is to be silent. And maybe you guys just aren't a match. That's like, really important to me to like, be with somebody that, like, can talk dirty and emote in bed. And like, it's not an immediate deal breaker, but it's up there.

[C]

Yeah. And I do. There is such a spectrum. I stand firmly that these things can change. And I have had partners that were dead silent that then dirty talked. You know, like, I think people learn new skills. They learn what you like. So it's. We always say, like, you can't base it off. Like the very beginning of your sex journey with somebody, but you were with someone for quite some time that just. I mean, a year in and still not one expression even while coming. And I think, you know, that might be.

[B]

Oh, silent coming, silent comer. No way could you tell it was happening.

[A]

Yeah, but for other reasons.

[B]

Was it like a shudder or like some.

[A]

It was just sort of like a grunt and that was it. Not barely a grunt. He's just also. Just not really a motive in life. Like, he's just not a really, like, excitable person. And we're still friends today. We're just not a romantic match in any way at all.

[C]

But don't you think. I mean, I'd like to know if there's men out there that are just. Nothing's coming out of their mouth. They're completely mute. Which may be what she's dealing with. Like, I would think most guys say I'm gonna come, but maybe, like, he never did that either. I mean, that's the lowest bar, right?

[B]

Yeah. I'm not saying I'm gonna come. You know, I'm coming, like, and for a while, like, there's a build up, there's a crescendo. Like, it's not. Yeah. It's not a surprise.

[C]

Right?

[B]

I'm not surprising anybody.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. I mean, it's fine if it's a.

[C]

Deal breaker, but she could do that. Like if. Again, if he's never made a peep. Like, she could be like, hey, hey, could you just, like, tell me when you're gonna come? Like, just so I know.

[B]

But also, I think have a conversation with your partner.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, hey, it really turns me on when you make some noises. Like, how come you don't. You know, you could be pointed, you could be direct about that kind of stuff.

[A]

Yeah. The shame stuff is interesting, and I never really thought about it, but there is so much shame around sex for so many people and masturbating, and I. Maybe it just doesn't come natural to people to, like, emote that much.

[B]

Yeah. Guys are kind of shut down for the most part.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't want to throw them under the bus, but, like, you know, they're not. Men aren't known to be the most emotionally expressive, so in sex neither.

[C]

Yeah. And he could have never, obviously, done this with a previous partner. No one had any issue with it. So this is the first time it's coming up for him. And, you know, I. I have faith in him.

[B]

Yeah. Talk about it.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You got this.

[A]

Oh, my God. There's so many good ones.

[B]

I'm gonna come.

[A]

Isolate that sound bite. Tessa, we're gonna clip that. Can we talk about frequency of sex and libido?

[B]

You can talk about anything you want.

[A]

So a lot of questions came in.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Not that. Not libido, not frequency.

[A]

You talked about balls on my face. Yeah. A lot of people say my sex drive is higher than my partner's, essentially. And how do I, like, bring up that? I would like to be having more sex, and I'd like them to initiate it, because I think eventually, with a lot of people, you keep trying to initiate it, and you're shut down. And, I mean, how could you not turn in on yourself and say that maybe they're not attracted to me, you know? But I think that it makes you feel really bad. But if you think love is rare, it's hard to find people you care about. And this is something worth working on. So I have more of a libido than my partner. How do I bring it up?

[B]

Yeah. And it's usually. It's usually female. Has a higher libido than their male partners, which is.

[C]

I feel like this myth that guys want to fuck all the time, you know? So women get in their head of, like, I thought that guys always were horny and down to fuck.

[B]

As we get older, we're less horny.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Women end up being more horny.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's kind of sad. It's kind of tragic. I feel like it's also one of the biggest complaints that some. That couples have.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's either like, libido discrepancy or money. Those are the two things.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I don't know if I don't actually have the answer to this. I don't really know. It's funny. I Was listening to something recently. It's like women or people in relationships want their partner to act in a certain way. But if you have to ask for it and then they do it, and then you go, well, I kind of wish you had just done it without me asking for it. But I don't see any other way around saying, like, I have a higher libido. It would feel good to me if you initiated a little bit more and if we could find, like, meet somewhere in the middle. But there's gonna have to be some sort of compromise here.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, we did talk about this at length with Ann Kerner, so you guys can listen back, but there is no just answer.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, I mean, it's communication and figuring out if you are a match and you can meet in the middle. I mean, I think as women, we feel embarrassed to bring this up. Right. And then you're like, well, now you're only doing it. It's like, I want you to want to do the dishes. You know, it's just, I don't want.

[B]

To do this right.

[C]

So it's tough. And I think you approach this with, like, I love you. I'm so. If you do, you know, if that's where you're at in your relationship.

[B]

I love our sex life.

[C]

I love our sex life. I'm so turned on by you.

[B]

I would love it even more.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Like, start with the positives and see. And you could have a partner that doesn't even realize it, maybe. And also, are we just in a stage of life where they're stressed with work? Like, what are you guys dealing with? Are you trying to get pregnant? I mean, is there any stresses in the relationship, like reminding yourself that relationships ebb and flow and they. Couples go through highs and lows of having sex, too.

[A]

And you take each other for a day for granted. I think when you have children, I can't even imagine coming home after working a whole day and taking care of my kids. And then. Then you feel sexy. You want to have sex at the end of the day. Like, I think that a lot of people just fall into that script of, like, you're here, I get to sleep next to you. And I think trying to manufacture an environment that's a little sexier. I think massages are a great way to do that.

[B]

Schedule that shit. Also, I know it's unsexy, but, like, I think if you have a family and you're really busy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Scheduling sex is like a total. I think it's a winning strategy.

[A]

I Think there's a lot of, like, pros and cons to scheduling sex, and people have, like, a big reaction to it. Like, I would never do that. But if nothing's working, why not try this thing?

[C]

Well, you schedule a date night, so, you know, is it part of that? But why are we scheduling, like, our romantic night out but not the intimacy part of it?

[B]

Yeah. Also, fudge before dinner if you can.

[C]

Thank you. I love to do a whole episode.

[B]

On this before dinner.

[C]

What?

[B]

First I just did this with someone. Yeah. And you're gonna enjoy the meal. She was, like, kind of not into it. It was, like. It took her a while to, like, wrap her head around it.

[A]

Somebody you were having sex with before dinner?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I. I am never hornier than the afternoon, early evening, and I'm never less horny than after a giant meal. Yeah, you're just, like, pushing on my.

[B]

Stomach more before sex. And I was like, look, look, girl, we'll connect after sex.

[A]

Sean's like, we'll get to you and your feelings after.

[B]

Don't worry. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

This will make me want to talk to you.

[B]

Well, the fear was that. That. That I wasn't going to want to talk to her because. Because after sex, then it's like, some people just aren't into it anymore.

[C]

Yeah, but it's like, we have a reservation. You know, we're locked into dinner regardless.

[B]

Yeah, we're going. I got 20 bucks on this thing. I got a deposit.

[C]

Do you? You peloton at all?

[B]

No, but I have. I have.

[C]

Okay, well, so I was taking a Cody Rigsby class the other day, and he started in on this of, like, why are we having sex after dinner?

[A]

Like, it should always be before you eat, you know, My nighttime sex is my least favorite. After my whole day, I've done my skincare routine.

[B]

I'm going to sleep balls on your face after that. No, you got to do it again. You got to clean your face again after that.

[A]

I had a full face of makeup on when that was happening.

[C]

I just had two little eye holes.

[A]

Holes on his ball?

[C]

No, like, mascara running down. Yeah. He's like, you got mascara on my balls. You have to roll up and rub it off.

[B]

Wait, one more thing is if your male partner is looking at porn and you're not having sex, there's an issue. I don't want to shame anybody for their porn use.

[C]

Like, right?

[B]

Yeah. It's like, you have a solo sex life. That's okay. But if you're prioritizing, masturbating, to porn over having sex with your partner. That. That's probably an issue.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

The issue is naturally not that you don't have a libido, it's that you aren't having sex with me.

[B]

That you're. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Well, and then, then that is. I. There's no way to diagnose that without all the information. How long have you been together? What's going on in the relationship? I mean, that's like sometimes where a third party needs to. To come in and I'm not.

[B]

Yeah. I don't, I don't want to say, like, don't look at porn. Don't masturbate on your own. That's not what I'm saying. But there could be something to explore there.

[C]

Yeah. And that's tough. I mean, I'm sure women listening are experiencing this now or they have in the past where they're not having the sex life they want with their partner, but they know he's still watching porn and masturbating. That's really hurtful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And non monogamy is also. Could be a solution for some people. Obviously not everybody.

[A]

Well, I think it's fair to open up that conversation and say, like, sex is really important to me and like feeling connected physically to somebody, and if you are refusing to give that to me, then I should be allowed to explore this somewhere else. You're allowed to say no and go.

[B]

And you're allowed to leave. Yeah. And that might even take some pressure off of the partner who has a lower libido. You know, like, oh, okay, my partner is getting laid and is happy and I don't have to feel bad or guilty about that. That could be nice. It's an advanced strategy. I'm not saying like anyone totally can just jump into non monogamy, but there are books, like Opening up, you know, that walk you through the whole thing.

[C]

This comes up a lot over all the years we've been doing this of just wanting your partner to initiate sex. And I do think you have to ask yourself, like, have they ever, you know, like, do you want things to go back to a way that they were? Are you wanting someone to be someone that they never really have been? So I think that's a question to ask yourself too. Like, has something changed? Or have you just been like, I want what I see in the movies or I want what I see in my friends relationships, or I want him to, you know, rip my clothes off in this way? And it's like, well, is that who we're talking about has he ever been that guy? You know, so that's.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Maybe not, right? Yeah.

[B]

But there's also. You can bridge the gap a little bit.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

We can. We can invite people to try on different.

[C]

Yeah. And you shouldn't have to shape shift to turn him on. But Raina, saying, like, is the environment conducive to sex? Are we cleaning up our side of the street first to kind of make it sexy, too? Is a good place to start.

[A]

Take a shower together. You know, massages.

[C]

Our sucking blow gel.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What?

[C]

We have a, like, oral enhancer.

[A]

We'll send you home with some.

[B]

Oh, cool.

[C]

Yeah, we're gonna send you home with us.

[B]

It's like a flowbe, but for.

[A]

It's flavored lube, essentially.

[B]

Oh, yummy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think, you know, create an environment. Turn the lights off in the bathroom, light some candles, take a shower together.

[B]

Yeah. Also talk about sex. I feel like I love all that. Like, that's, like, very situational, but also, can we get there through just talking about what we love, what we wish we could have more of? There's a great tool called the yes, no, maybe list. You can Google it. There's a good one by a company or an organization called Autostradle. Auto. A U T O straddle.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And it's basically this whole exercise that you can go and take with your partner or the person that you're sleeping with. It could even be, like, a new person, take it to a cool bar or cool restaurant, bring pens. And it's basically allows you to learn things that you want to do, don't want to do, or might want to do at some point.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

All these different strategies, like, all these different little things that you might not think of, like kissing in the shower or, like, playing with wax or, like, the gamut, really. The gamut from, like, really mild to really wild.

[A]

I like the idea that somebody else facilitates this, that you're not really on the hook for this. Qu. These questions. You're just like, I found this last one together.

[B]

Dinner. Yeah. And you can circle, like, a happy face or a sad face next to the things that you want to try or absolutely don't want to try. And then there's other things. Like, I love it when you refer to my genitals as this. Never refer to my genitals as this. I love it. Like, I don't know that you don't like me. You don't like it when I call it a dick, but you really like it when I call it a yeah, right? And then you start. Then you're like, I love that.

[C]

Like, this whole time, Dick's been taking him out of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, he's like, I haven't said. I haven't made a moan in bed because. You calling it a dick?

[B]

Yeah. To do a. Yeah, a winkle or whatever. I don't know.

[A]

I like slut. I don't like whore. They feel different to me.

[B]

Totally. They are different.

[A]

They are. They feel different to me. Like, slut's great all day. I'm like, do you. Do you hate your mother?

[B]

You. You. Yeah. Why are you talking to me like this?

[A]

Yeah, I'm like, that's right. I. I am.

[B]

Yeah. So the yes, no, maybe change, small change. It makes a huge difference.

[C]

Okay, well then speaking of this, what are you supposed to call men during sex? Some don't like daddy. So, like what?

[A]

Which I like that she. Her only vocabulary is daddy. Well, I appreciate the question, but like a new person. Baby sounds weird. Babe sounds weird. Daddy is not for. That's not.

[B]

Well, you don't have to call them anything.

[C]

That's the thing too. You don't have to call him anything. I'm trying to. I'm to trying. I'm thinking in my own experience, like me harder. I don't know that I call him.

[A]

Anything I've busted out of data here and there, but it depends on.

[B]

Or their name is actually kind of hot.

[C]

Their name?

[B]

Yeah, don't forget their name.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Use their name.

[A]

God.

[C]

Right?

[B]

God.

[A]

Like, oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I'm curious what she's really itching to call himself. Like, I. I really do appreciate the question.

[A]

Me too.

[C]

Do you call him something else outside of the bedroom? Like. Yeah, I guess I'm saying babe sometimes.

[B]

Sweetie. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, sweetie.

[B]

Okay. I lived in Panama for a little while.

[A]

Sean, you're so interesting.

[B]

I started a hostel for motorcycle travelers a long time ago, obviously. And I was like. I had read the game. This was like when the game kind of came out and it me up because I was like, this is wrong, super toxic feel. Right?

[C]

I'm glad you said that.

[B]

Yeah. And. But I. But I guess I'll try some of these, like waiting three days to text back or whatever. But I was also in Panama. I didn't speak Spanish at the time. I do now now. And I just had a really hard time connecting with people and this was like pre dating apps. And anyways, I was like getting really horny and kind of desperate and my buddies Were like, this is bad, dude. Like, you're everywhere. You're going. Like, you can't stop thinking or talking about sex. And, like, it was just like, really? And you could see.

[A]

You're embarrassing us, Sean.

[B]

You could smell the desperation.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Anyways, yeah, I was amazing. So he brought me to a brothel, and he's like, we just got to get this out of your system.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And she said, que rico, papi. Right. Which is like. And it just. It really worked.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So for me, Poppy works.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

Yeah, Poppy.

[C]

So funny to say that. Just some white dude. Just some average white dude. Call him Poppy.

[B]

He's calling Poppy.

[A]

Who did I call? I call him Poppy. Little white boy, five, eight.

[B]

So if you don't, like. If you don't like daddy, call him Poppy.

[C]

Poppy.

[A]

Listen.

[C]

Try it.

[A]

I like it Poppy. I like Daddy. I mean, but not everybody is the daddy. Like, not everybody can absorb the daddy.

[B]

The daddy energy.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I will say that it did work. After the brothel experience.

[A]

What worked?

[B]

I wasn't so desperate. And, like.

[C]

And you stopped using the game, obviously.

[B]

I stopped using the game. And I, like, went on regular dates with people.

[C]

Text back immediately.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I treated them nicely.

[C]

Yeah. I don't do Daddy. I don't know. I don't think this is a big shocker to anybody. Yeah, Like, I don't. I don't. I guess I would if my partner wanted it, but, like, I have never done it. And, like, I think it would really throw him off. And so I. I think if you call him babe or baby outside of the bedroom. Bring it into the bedroom. His name or nothing.

[B]

Or nothing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We solve this one.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Daddy feels more natural to me sexting and not actually saying it out loud when.

[C]

If I were to say daddy, it would be a bit like. We both start laughing. Like, it would be.

[A]

He would. He would know it's a joke. Yeah. He'd be like, Ashley said the funniest thing during sex called me Daddy. She was telling me jokes.

[C]

Jokes.

[B]

I mean, it's hot to be called Daddy for sure.

[C]

I get it. I'm not. I'm not shaming it.

[B]

It's just.

[C]

It's not in my repertoire. I've asked my fiance, like, do you want me to call you Daddy? He was like, no, no. I was like, glad we got past that. No daddy, no anal.

[B]

No daddy, no anal.

[A]

Okay. Can we wrap up with anal?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Love it. Yes. Love it.

[A]

This was one of the most asked questions. How do I get more into anal?

[B]

Do we have time we don't have time for analysis. This is.

[A]

But always time for anal.

[C]

That's five minutes for anal.

[B]

It's like jello.

[A]

So this came up a ton about anal, and I'm like, I thought we talked about this so much.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

We had somebody on the show, Dr. Evan Goldstein, and did a whole episode about anal from a doctor. It was two years ago in February, so you guys can look that up. But I think that so many women are like, I genuinely don't care for this, but my partner wants to do it. I don't wanna. Like, there's this whole hole that I'm not using, and they are requesting it. And how can I make this marginally enjoyable for myself?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's actually a pretty common scenario. I've, like, I've experienced women that are like, I'm not really into it, but if it makes you happy, I'm happy to, like, give it a shot. I think you have to be kind of. You kind of want to want it. You got to want to want it.

[A]

So as a man, do you have sex with females? Like, and somebody's sitting there like, oh, yeah. Like, who would enjoy that?

[B]

Well, you can't just. I mean, there's a lot of preparation that comes into having it. Anal sex.

[A]

So what kind of prep do you do?

[B]

Well, I mean, butt plugs are a really good place to start.

[C]

Like, training kit.

[B]

A training kit with, with different size butt plugs start small, medium, and large.

[A]

Right. Starting with a full size penis. I mean, that's. It's gonna hurt.

[B]

Or a full size butt plug. The great thing about butt plugs is that they just. They, they're static. They just stay there. And then your. Your butthole sort of just like, gets used to being kind of stretched out a little bit.

[C]

We sell a great butt plug, and it is. It's not too large. It's a great size. It really could be for a novice or an expert. And, you know, obviously lube is so important.

[B]

Lots of lube pushing out is actually kind of a power move. When you're, like, taking in either the butt plug or a penis is, like, bearing down, kind of like, you would poop.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Sort of like, I don't know, it just kind of primes the sphincter for something to come in.

[A]

I think it's really not a familiar sensation for a lot of people. And so if you've never done it before and all of a sudden there's this thing introduced to the cavity of your body, like, it's hard to like that. So I like the idea of training with smaller plugs. Just get used to the sensation.

[C]

I mean, we talked about this at length with. With Dr. Evan. You guys can listen back. We asked all the questions. Is there poop always in there? Etc?

[B]

No.

[C]

Well, I mean, it just depends. A lot of times there is. Right. Right in there. A lot of times there's not.

[B]

Well, the reality is you can't keep knocking on poop's door expecting poop not to be home.

[C]

Okay. Exactly.

[B]

I mean, poop's gonna be home sometimes.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And why are you coming by.

[C]

But the. I think the question talking with you and you're not technically a doctor is this whole, like, I don't want to, and he wants to. And, like, I don't really know what to tell you there. You know, like, are you in a position with your partner where you're feeling anxiety surrounding. He wants to do this thing that I really don't want to do, and I don't know that I have the answer to that.

[A]

I mean, not everybody's gonna enjoy it and find it pleasurable. I don't like it. I've never had an anal experience. I enjoyed whether it was even a finger. Cause I think you can, like, work your way into it with, like, fingers.

[B]

Oh, you should work your way in with a finger for sure.

[A]

100%, and just get used to that sensation. But for me, I just. I really don't enjoy it, like, to the point that, like, I'm really not gonna be that fun while it's happening either. And I can deal with a finger, even though I, like, kind of hate it. It doesn't feel so bad. But a whole penis, I don't want it. I don't like it.

[C]

Well, also, has this hypothetical couple done a finger? You know, like, if guy is like, hey, I really want to put it in your butt. I'm like, put your finger in there. We're gonna start there for me and for you. Yeah, you know, like, eat it.

[A]

Eat it out.

[C]

Eat my butt then.

[B]

Yeah, eat my butt. Like, get the finger wet. Yeah, put the finger in.

[C]

Like, you know, that feels like, come in hot.

[B]

You can't come in hot. Like, 100.

[C]

We're not doing anal unless you've eaten my ass a couple times.

[B]

But yeah, that's at the very minimum. You eat the ass, right? Then you need way more. Like I'm saying, if you've never had anal sex, like, you're gonna need a couple hours to feel comfortable enough to take a penis. If not a couple Sessions?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This is not something that you just do on a drunken Wednesday.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You don't want to kind of fire in. Into it really quickly. Like, this is just going to take a while.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But I want to know that you want this booty hole so bad and that might turn me on. So as opposed to like, my man just wants to do anal because he heard it's tighter. Whatever he wants. Like, it's like, I want to know that you want my butt so bad that you are eating it regularly that you've stuck your finger in there. Like, think that would turn me on? More than like, he just wants to put it in because he thinks it's.

[B]

Going to be tight and that you're willing to do the work.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You're willing. Yeah. You're willing to take. You want this to, like, really warm me up and do everything that you need to make sure that this doesn't hurt at all. And not only does it not hurt, it feels good.

[A]

Project with me if you want this so bad. Right.

[C]

I mean, weeks in advance, like, eat my ass weekly through Q1.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And we'll address this in Q2 in April.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I will also say that some women, some people love, they are. They are butt sluts.

[C]

Totally.

[B]

They love butt sex. So we're talking about, like, oh, make it not hurt. You know, like, make it pleasure. Well, some people really totally get off. They get off on it. And so, like, you know, obviously this is not this person.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Like, could be that person. If you do it right.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You do it right.

[A]

But those people that, like, levied also didn't, like, do anal for the first time and thought, like, it's the best thing ever. Like, you gotta work towards it.

[B]

Maybe they did. Who know?

[C]

Maybe. Yeah. Who's to say?

[B]

Who knows?

[A]

Maybe I'll be a butt slot if I believe in it hard enough. Maybe I'll be a but slot.

[B]

Yeah. And go slow. I mean, it's not. Yeah. Take your time.

[C]

Yeah. I just think you need to reframe it in some way to turn yourself on about it. You know what I mean? And for me, that would be like, he cannot get enough of my butt.

[B]

You know, I'll be honest, I love butt stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I cannot get enough of it.

[C]

Anal to like, all of it.

[B]

All of it. I don't get a lot of it, but I can't get enough.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Could you be with someone who was like, hard lying? No, anal.

[B]

I'm not sure.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not sure.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

I Don't. If somebody was like, every time we got to do butt stuff, I don't think they could date me.

[C]

But, like, it's. It goes back to our original question, like, could you or I be with someone who refused to utter a word in the bedroom? Probably not. You know, like, they're not that dissimilar. It's like, we like what we like, and some people have boundaries surrounding those things. And that may not be your partner.

[A]

But it sounds like also you're like, I want this, but I'll work with you on it. I'll train that butthole.

[B]

Oh, I'll train the butthole. I'll take my time with you. There's no. There's no pressure. There's no rush. Yeah.

[A]

For somebody who really doesn't like butt stuff. People cannot get enough of my butthole. I just. Every guy wants to be inside of it.

[C]

It's a good one, right?

[A]

Oh, yeah. I was told I have a perfect butthole. Just an absolutely perfect butthole.

[B]

What makes it perfect?

[A]

Color, color, color.

[B]

Not too brattle.

[A]

Cleanliness. It's totally pink.

[B]

It's totally pink. Cleanliness.

[A]

I guess Cleanliness and color.

[B]

Well, yeah, maybe. I mean, it's also who the butthole belongs to.

[A]

Well, I'm so tiny.

[B]

Yeah. The butt.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, the butt surrounds the butthole. Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[A]

People forget about my butt because my boobs are so big, but it's a good butt.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

One final wild card, Sean.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Why are you gonna. Are you gonna ask my favorite. I know you do it. No.

[B]

No.

[C]

I'm not gonna say it away from you.

[A]

Okay. I'm glad that your shave. Your head's shaved today. Why do bald guys eat so much better? And then I made a note. Sean shaved his head. We can ask him if. If it makes him actually better.

[B]

So I saw a video, and they. I saw a reel recently, and it was like, man on the street kind of stuff. You know, asking drunk people stuff. And someone had asked them, what gets better with age. And someone said, a bald man's.

[A]

What?

[B]

Which I think it's like, you have to try harder if you're bald.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's like a psychological reason.

[B]

It's like being short. Yeah.

[A]

Are you. You're not bald, though.

[B]

I'm balding. And so. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's like. It's thinner here and it's thin. I went early. I shaved early.

[C]

Yeah. Because I wouldn't be able to tell you have any male pattern going on.

[B]

But if it's my hair Is longer. You can see the scalp. And I didn't like it.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I shaved it in June.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm still getting used to it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But. But. And I still don't love it. I don't love the way I look at it in photos. I like how I look in the mirror.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

I'm still getting used to it.

[C]

I get that that's my face. That's a lot to get used to.

[A]

I feel on my face. I look in the mirror and I'm like, she's killing it. I look at a photo, I'm like, that's what I look like.

[B]

Yeah. What's happening? What's happening?

[A]

We encourage people to shave their heads. I am often encouraged men to go bald.

[B]

Well, I'm also not willing to take any, like, finasteride or Rogaine because of what it does to your hormones. And it's like, it can impact your libido in a very. A very serious way. And there's even something called post finasteride syndrome, which is people who take propecia to get to keep their hair or grow their hair back, they get a problem. They get like, erectile dysfunction or watery semen or all this kind of weird low libido. They stop taking the pills. The. The side effects persist.

[C]

Yikes. Because, I mean, everything comes at a cost. I don't know. Like, there's no. I feel like, perfect solution to a lot of certain things like that. And I mean, also, the thing with Rogaine, because now they have it for minoxidil. They have it for women, too, is because I was having some shedding and I looked into it and you got to commit to it forever.

[B]

Also, there's side effects to Rogaine.

[C]

There's.

[B]

Facial sagging can come from Rogaine. Yeah. So it's gonna. Cause. So I was like, do I want a hardcock or a bald head? You know? And I was like, I'm gonna pick. Wait, Both. Yeah, sorry. A head of hair or a hardcock.

[C]

But I think there's something to this. Like, just. Just a little bit of trying harder. If this is a correlation, it's just like, I'm bald now. I gotta eat a little better and.

[B]

I gotta hit the gym. Gotta hit the gym. I gotta get, you know, abs or whatever, and I gotta eat. But I've. I've always eaten. That's never changed. So I don't know what it is about bald dudes and eating.

[C]

When did you start eating pussy? Like, in high school?

[B]

Like. Like in Middle school.

[A]

You were eating pussies in middle school.

[B]

Okay, no, wait.

[A]

Other middle schoolers.

[B]

Well, who else would it be?

[A]

Do you remember when you first heard about people putting their mouth on your vagina?

[C]

I remember hearing the term eating her out in middle school. And I was like, what are you talking about? Like, I was like, what do you mean?

[B]

I think I must have been in high school.

[A]

No, no, I'm not shaming.

[C]

Like.

[B]

No, no, I know, but I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. Yeah, I think her name was Lily, and I think I was in. I was a freshman in high school.

[A]

Okay, how old were you? First time to went down on you?

[C]

It was May 5, 2001.

[B]

What happened on May 5, 2001?

[C]

That was my senior prom.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[C]

Yeah, so up until then, like, I'd been fingered and everything, but that was the first time someone ate my. And I was like, what the. Like, it's crazy. They just, like, go down there and start licking. Like, I was like, this is wild.

[A]

You just, like, have an orgasm. It's crazy.

[B]

I've never not used eaten. Like, I can't. I can think of one or two interactions where I have not. And it's only because she wasn't comfortable with it. Like, it felt too intimate.

[C]

I mean, we had tinks on. Do you know tanks.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And she kind of is like, guys who don't eat are like, my hard line. She's like, I think it just says a lot about them. And she's like, I know this might be controversial and people can change, but, like, an adult man who is like, I don't do that. I don't like to do it.

[A]

She's like, for.

[C]

Personally, it's not for me. And I agree with that statement.

[B]

Yep. I don't know.

[A]

Cause I think about, like, a woman saying, like, well, I don't suck dick. And, like, that's also, like, a personal preference. Like, you don't have to be with somebody that doesn't like that. But I'm not, like, so crazy about people going down on me. It's not that I don't, like, come. I come, like, too fast from it, and I'm just, like, done with the experience. But, like, I don't. I don't need it. But guys that don't want to do.

[C]

It, that's the thing.

[A]

Then that's different to me. Like, I'm like, I'm not requesting it on the menu every single day. But, like, if you are a hardline, I. I don't do It.

[C]

I want you to want to do the dishes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I want you to want to eat my.

[B]

It's giving misogyny or something.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I don't. I don't exactly understand, but I feel like people who don't go down kind of hate women.

[C]

Yeah. I love that.

[B]

And it's not man. It's like not manly to go down on a woman.

[A]

Also, like, why should I be, like, sucking your dick, choking tears down my face, trying to.

[B]

Balls in my. Yeah. Balls in my eye sockets, on my cheeks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

A heart. Harder job than eating. And you're just like, I'm all set.

[C]

No, no, I could never.

[B]

They don't call it a blow job for nothing.

[C]

I've never experienced a guy like that and I don't want to.

[A]

That won't go down on you.

[C]

Yeah. Because I only like liberal men.

[B]

You don't like liberal men.

[C]

I only like.

[A]

I've let a couple of moderates sneak in there. Okay. And maybe a conservative or two just.

[B]

To see what it would feel like.

[A]

Well, that's how tall they are. Okay. Well, anymore.

[B]

Did we answer the question?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bald man going down.

[C]

I think it's a little bit of.

[B]

Compensation to anybody who's considering shaving their head. It has. I don't think it has impacted how people view me or like, I'm still able. Maybe only for the better. I don't know. I mean, there are probably some women that are just like, I'm not into a shaved head. Like, that's not my style, you know? But for the most part, I'm still able to like, flirt with people and go on dates. And it doesn't seem to have impacted my love life in any negative way.

[A]

I'm glad to hear it. I have been a one woman marketing machine for bald guys for seven years.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. For years I've been like, go get a guy that has like a beard that's bald. That's so sexy. It's so confident to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause like, you are walking around, I guess, with not like the quote unquote normal haircut. I think it's so confident and sexy.

[C]

Well, I'm sure there's guys out there that are like, listen, yeah, what I would prefer is a full head of hair.

[B]

But I would prefer a full head of hair.

[C]

Okay. But like the worst case scenario is like, like thinning balding hair or a.

[B]

Limp cock or that and some weird regime where you have to like fuck with your scalp for three hours a day. I don't have time for that.

[A]

Raina ski trip.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going skiing.

[C]

She convinced a guy friend to, like, to shave his head. And he was, like, holding on to that last, you know, patchy, and he's so much hotter, and I feel like he's so much more confident and he pulls it off, but it's just like the worst thing you can do is really hold on for dear life.

[A]

Life.

[B]

It's the spiritual path.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Of the fact is that we are aging. It's coming for all of us.

[C]

Right.

[B]

The bodies are not as tight, things are sagging, things don't. You know. And it's like we just have to accept the fact that we're changing. We don't have to, like, lay down and get bulldozed by it. We can still go to the gym, eat well, sleep well, drink water, all that stuff. But, like, we're getting older and it just happens gradually.

[C]

Like, I always thought I was gonna, like, lose my mind when I saw a gray hair. And I'm like. Like, I have a couple. I'm fine. I'm fine.

[A]

You're fine?

[C]

Like, I thought I would, like, freak out and I'm like, oh, yeah, all right, whatever.

[B]

Gray hair's could have seen that. I started going gray when I was 15. So for me, it like.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Just kind of got used to it.

[A]

Been dealing with it for a long time.

[B]

Was this not the best?

[C]

This was great.

[A]

It was fun. I'm glad you showed up.

[B]

Holy. Yeah, me too.

[C]

He's like, I got to go.

[B]

See, I didn't know it was going to be so fun.

[A]

Oh, you wouldn't have shown up. What's that?

[B]

No, I wouldn't have cancelled.

[C]

Everybody has fun.

[A]

Everybody really likes us. They do. People love coming on this show.

[B]

I've heard great things and now I can confirm them.

[C]

I just. These dogs, you know, the dogs are special, right? They really are.

[B]

The dogs are special.

[C]

I just loved talking about just anal and eating pussy just over these two angels.

[B]

Angels. They don't even know.

[A]

It's been laughing out loud the whole time. I'm really. I love this episode. Well, I'm sure people want more of you. Tell them where to find your Instagram, your website, your podcast, everything.

[B]

Yeah, my Instagram is the Love Drive. I have a podcast with the angry therapist John Kim. It's called We Can Do Better, about how men and people can be better. And we take listener questions. And I have a substack called the Love Drive, where I write about a lot more intimate parts of my life. And I have a retreat coming up in June at Kripalu, which is like a hippie yoga center in Western Massachusetts. And it's called love camp. June 20th, 21 and 22nd. All that stuff is at the link in my bio on Instagram.

[A]

Amazing.

[C]

Amazing.

[A]

This is so much fun. Thank you for doing this.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Great.

[B]

I loved it.

[C]

And you guys know where to find us. Girls gotta eat.com we are girls gotta eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Ash hess.com Raina is raina.greenberg vibesonly.com for the sucking blow gel and all the toys and all the things the butt plug. And you can subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend that may need it and we will see you Thursday.

[A]

Have a good week, guys.