The Snack: Summer House Scandal, KitKat Heist, and Er*ka Kirk vs. Druski

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat: “Summer House Drama, KitKat Heist, and Er*ka Kirk vs. Druski”

Podcast: Girls Gotta Eat (Dear Media)
Episode Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg

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Overview

This episode of "The Snack" delivers a hilarious and rapid-fire rundown of the wildest pop culture stories of the week, including a chocolatey criminal caper, the latest in reality TV romance scandals, a viral sketch misfire, and a dramatic update from the Mormon Wives universe. Ashley and Rayna’s signature banter is in full force as they traverse everything from DUIs to snack preferences, helicopter parent drama, and the blurred lines between scandalous fun and irredeemable behavior in Bravo’s reality world. Pop some Kit Kats and get ready for the hottest tea.

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Major Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. Opening and Upcoming Live Show (00:00 – 03:01)

• Banter about “airport hair” and not saying hi last week.
• Announcements: GGE x Chippendales LA show at Netflix Is A Joke Festival (May 7th).
• Ashley: “We always love to have a little stripper action in our shows…but this is really so exciting. Bring your friends, partners, your moms…” (02:17)

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2. Vehicular Crime Report: Celebrity DUIs & Driving Fails (03:12 – 07:26)

• Tiger Woods’ new DUI, confusion over which number this is for him.
  • “I thought it's his third DUI…something happened in 2017 and also 2021.” — Ash (03:16)
• Body cam footage comparisons and celebrities trying to block footage.
• Discussion of the absurdity of rich celebs driving themselves:
  • “Pay him 100 grand a year, 150 a year. That’s a drop in the bucket. Why would I ever drive again?” — Raina (04:48)
  • “Never drive again. Never catch me behind a wheel ever again.” — Ash (05:05)
• Riff on Tiger Woods’ relationship to the Trump family (Vanessa Trump confusion/humor).
  • “Beavis and Butthead themselves are the most hideous people alive. I cannot believe people fuck them.” — Raina (06:51)
• Satirical “lock him up/get him a golf cart” tangent.

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3. The KitKat Heist: 12 Tons of Chocolate Stolen! (07:26 – 14:32)

• European thieves steal 12 tons (400,000 bars) of KitKats.
  • “All robberies take planning…what they landed on was Kit Kat?” — Ash (08:03)
• Serial numbers on KitKats; logistics of selling “hot” chocolate.
• Notable KitKat quote from their spokesperson:
  • “We’ve always encouraged people to have a break with KitKat, but it seems thieves have taken the message too literally and made a break with more than 12 tons of our chocolate.”
• Other brands’ witty social media responses:
  • Domino’s: “On a completely unrelated note, we’re pleased to announce we’ll now be selling a new KitKat pizza.” (11:48)
  • Denny’s: “Whatever happened to those KitKats happened between 1:30am and 4:00am and we were very busy. No further questions.”
  • DoorDash: “We have 12 tons of KitKats in our dashmarts that we can’t sell. The good news: all you have to do is go to your DoorDash app and add like 500, 600 KitKats to your cart and this should resolve itself quickly.”
  • Kitchen Sink (Rayna’s husband’s app): “While we don’t condone theft, if you happen to have 413,793 KitKats at your disposal, got a few suggestions for you…”
• Ash and Rayna play "F*ck, Marry, Kill" with KitKat-inspired desserts (13:27), leading to further digression about candy bar rankings and “making it sexy, naughty” (11:37).

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4. Summer House Drama: Amanda & West's Shocking Relationship (14:32 – 26:58)

Summary of the Scandal

• News of Amanda Batula and Wes Wilson from Summer House confirming they're together after weeks of speculation.
• “I cannot believe what I was seeing. I was like, this isn’t real. Like, this is too juicy to be real.” — Raina (15:12)
• Timeline breakdown: Amanda’s divorce from Kyle; West’s history with Ciara; cast and fan speculation; Instagram “collab” relationship announcement.
• Hosts reflect on the impact for Ciara (Team Ciara), and the reality TV cycle of betrayal and public image.
  • “No dick is that good. I would never cross Ciara.” — Raina (21:57)
  • “This is despicable from both of them.” — Ash (20:56)
• Will this “Scandoval” style drama kill or revive the show? Will Amanda lose her ‘America’s Sweetheart’ narrative? (23:29)
  • “Amanda went from Ariana [Maddox] to Raquel in, like, a week.” — Ash (23:43)
• Discussion of a controversial “smoking gun” touch between Wes and Amanda (25:38), and whether it “looked more than friends.”
  • “It made me feel some type of way. Horny? No, it looked like they have something between them.” — Raina (26:10)

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5. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: The Chase Effect (30:07 – 37:06)

• Updated rundown on ongoing scandals from “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.”
  • Jessie Draper’s interview and drama with ex Jordan, plus the revelation that Jessie “made out” with Miranda’s ex, Chase (31:08).
  • Layla, Shania, and just how tangled the Chase web now is: “I feel like hooking up with Chase is a Mormon tradition at this point. Like, Chase is Book of Mormon.” — Raina (33:06)
• Layla is revealed as another Chase connection; cast relationships are a dizzying merry-go-round.
• Who’s the hottest in Utah reality TV? Extended debate about Dakota vs. Chase (35:24).
• Rayna recaps finishing the “beyond wild” Mormon Wives season, especially the (shocking) Taylor Frankie Paul Bachelorette storyline (35:48).

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6. Quick Recaps: Age of Attraction, Love Story, and More (37:06 – 42:41)

• Brief notes on “Age of Attraction” (the Netflix dating show):
  • Nick Viall’s “Viall Files” hosts an unofficial reunion (37:06).
  • Who is still together? “Vanessa and Logan are still engaged…I cannot believe they are together,” says Rayna (38:07).
  • Rayna will post her classic doppelgängers on Instagram.
• Love Story: Ash and Rayna discuss the show’s 90s style obsession and its realism.
  • Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy’s “quiet luxury” style: “This is just a girl—a model looks like she went to Everlane.” (40:13)
  • Discussion about Carol Radziwill’s family ties and awkward media tour (41:34).

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7. Headlines & Viral Moments (42:41 – 46:33)

• Kristi Noem & Cross-Dressing Husband: “It’s always people who want to take rights away…who have their own skeletons.” — Ash (43:38)
• Laguna Beach Reunion: Lauren & Kristin’s TikTok; throwback fashion; “The world is healing.” — Raina (44:06)
• Druski’s Er*ka Kirk Sketch/AI Fail:
  • Druski’s viral parody of conservative influencer Erica Kirk is misidentified by Elon Musk’s Grok AI as the real woman (44:52).
  • “AI didn’t [know the difference].” — Ash (44:57)
  • “He does all the things—he does the blue eyes, all her insane way she speaks, jawline, her coming out, the smush Barbie doll head.” — Raina (45:58)
  • Joe Exotic’s (alleged) comments from prison add to the absurdity.

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8. United Airlines' Lie-Flat Economy (Relaxroads) (46:37 – 49:55)

• United introducing “Relaxroads”—economy seats that become beds, targeting families.
• Hosts debate whether buying three economy seats and lying down is already legal (47:34).
• “I bought my own bed!” — Ash (48:27)
• Rayna: “Sometimes people who are bigger will buy two seats and just have more room.”

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Memorable Quotes

• On the KitKat Heist:
  “We’ve always encouraged people to have a break with KitKat, but it seems thieves have taken the message too literally and made a break with more than 12 tons of our chocolate.”
• On crossing friendships for romance:
  “No dick is that good. I would never cross Ciara.” — Raina (21:57)
• On dating in Mormon Wives:
  “I feel like hooking up with Chase is a Mormon tradition at this point. Like, Chase is Book of Mormon.” — Raina (33:06)
• On quiet luxury style:
  “This is just a girl—a model looks like she went to Everlane.” — Ash (40:13)

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Engaging Moments & Pop Culture Tangents

• Candy bar rankings devolve into childhood snack stories (10:22–11:27).
• “Fuck, Marry, Kill” on KitKat desserts (13:42–14:11).
• Playful speculation about United Airlines lie-flat seats (“I brought my own bed!”) and the real economics of air travel seating (48:27–49:55).
• Reality TV meta-analysis: Is the Summer House drama contrived or heartbreakingly real? (19:18–20:56)
• “Laguna Beach” cast reunion is met with giddy nostalgia.

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Brief Topical Notes

• Skip over all ads, intros, and outros.
• The episode is rich in real-time reactions and off-the-cuff insights, maintaining Ashley and Rayna’s playful yet incisive comedic tone.
• The show abounds in niche pop culture references, Bravo-lore, and sharp commentary on internet meme culture.

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Summary: A Must-Listen Snack Attack

This episode is a whirlwind of pop culture scandals: KitKat-fueled criminality, the messiest Summer House romance yet, sexual musical chairs among Mormon Wives, viral AI misfires, and new frontiers in economy bedding. The hosts never miss an opportunity for a joke or a hot take, making it a perfect catch-up for anyone craving both gossip and giggles.

For a deeper dive:

• KitKat Heist and brand roasting: 07:26–14:32
• The Summer House mess: 14:32–26:58
• Mormon Wives latest hookups: 30:07–37:06
• Viral news/Druski AI fail: 44:41–46:33
• United Airlines’ Relaxroads: 46:37–49:55

Missed the tea? Now you’re caught up.

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Transcript

[Ash Hess]

This week on the Snack Summer house drama the KitKat Heist and Erica Kirk versus Drewski.

[Raina Greenberg]

This is a Dear Media production.

[Ash Hess]

Enjoy.

[Raina Greenberg]

Hi, guys.

[Ash Hess]

Hi.

[Raina Greenberg]

We didn't say hi last week at all. We rounded it. I was looking at the edit. I was like, do we just not. We don't have to. Let us know if you guys care.

[Ash Hess]

Well, a few minutes ago, I asked you if my hair looked bad and you were like, I mean, I don't. It doesn't look clean.

[Raina Greenberg]

You asked. You were like, what does my hair look like? Should I put it up? I was like, I mean, yeah, it does. It's not clean. It depends on what look you're going for. A few people commented on my hair last week and they were like, I love that look. I'm like, it's just so dirty. I had it back in, like, a low bun. Like it was just a dirty hair day.

[Ash Hess]

I like it pinned back like that. Mine is extra dirty. I was at so many airport shows. I've been in so many places in Texas.

[Raina Greenberg]

Airport hair. That said airport hair.

[Ash Hess]

Well, we're back. I haven't seen you in a while.

[Raina Greenberg]

I know this more.

[Ash Hess]

It's like a week.

[Raina Greenberg]

Has it been.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah, it's been a week. It's crazy.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, let's get into it. We have so much today, you guys. Oh, my God, the tea is so hot. I mean, hot as summer. Some would say the hottest. The hottest summer tea.

[Ash Hess]

We are blessed. That stuff just comes out five minutes before we record. It's crazy. Well, let's just thank our partners and we'll get right into it, you guys. Thank you to FP Movement, go to fpmovement.com to shop their full line of activewear and workout gear.

[Raina Greenberg]

And thank you to helix. Go to helixsleep.com GGE for 20% off. Subscribe Sitewide. Okay, we just have a very quick announcement. So exciting. Speaking of hot. So our show here in LA on May 7th with the Netflix is a joke festival. The Palace Theater. We are so excited and we are announcing for the first time that we will have the Chippendales with us at the show. Girls gotta eat Chippendales collab. We did this one other time in Vegas on their home turf and they came over and they performed for us when we kicked off our 2024 snack city tour.

[Ash Hess]

God, no.

[Raina Greenberg]

No Crumbs. Oh, my God. We've just toured so much. No Crumbs tour. Yes. And they are coming from Vegas. We will have the Head Chippendale as seen on Mormon Wives.

[Ash Hess]

So excited.

[Raina Greenberg]

He's our fave. We've, like, worked with him for years. He was at my bachelorette. So they are going to come. We have so much fun stuff planned. This is so exciting.

[Ash Hess]

I can't wait. And, you know, we promise you guys, we'll do something new, bigger, better, different all the time. And this is just. And we always love to have a little stripper action in our shows, but this is really so exciting. So come. It's a really fun feel good. It's wild and crazy. Bring your friends, bring your partners, your moms, whoever, and we'll see you there. Tickets are on sale at Girls Gotta Eat dot com. And honestly, plan a whole weekend to come out to la. It is such a fun festival. Everybody in comedy is performing and it is just such a fun time to be in la. May, early May. And so come out. We hope to see you guys there.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes. And come from all over California, the West coast. You have a month to plan. At this point, over a month to plan. It's five weeks away from now. So Chippendales, Girls gotta eat. Netflix Fest. What more could you want? Hottest show of the year.

[Ash Hess]

So we'll see you guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

You heard it here first. Okay. Yes. Girls Gotta Eat dot com. And we are gonna kick it off with a vehicular crime report. This is a fun one. There's. Wait till you see the correlation between the two.

[Ash Hess]

Are you gonna tell me?

[Raina Greenberg]

So Tiger wood's got a DUI again. Second DUI.

[Ash Hess]

I thought it's his third DUI. Actually, something happened in 2017 and also 2021.

[Raina Greenberg]

So he flipped his car. He's okay. No one was hurt. I gotta say, I feel like at this point, I expect to see the full body cam footage and we can compare it to Justin Timberlake's and see who's better. Like, we are coming off another dui. Like, we were just getting over Justin Timberlake's DUI footage and then Tiger woods gets another dui. Like, if he doesn't say, this is going to ruin the PGA Tour, I don't want it.

[Ash Hess]

I didn't know the body cam footage was so easy to come by. Like, it's in Mormon wives, obviously. Like, JT's came out. Like, why are we not seeing all body cam footage of all arrests?

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, I mean, someone has to request it like we talked about. And these celebrities want to try to block it from coming out. I mean, I don't know. Is that what. Is there always body cam foot? I don't know all the ins and Outs. But I mean, I don't know this guy. What is he doing? He had pills in his pocket. Now, like, I have no tolerance for grown ass adults with money. Celebrities.

[Ash Hess]

Why are you driving yourself?

[Raina Greenberg]

So I saw an article. He's private. So you'd rather ruin your reputation, go to jail, get a dui? What are you doing?

[Ash Hess]

Like, no one's making you call an Uber. I mean, Tiger woods could have private drivers stationed at every home and city that he has forever.

[Raina Greenberg]

First hire I would make.

[Ash Hess]

Absolutely.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, we have drivers here and there and people we use repeatedly.

[Ash Hess]

We have driver. We have drivers all the time.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, we can't even imagine it.

[Ash Hess]

That is so funny. Like, we have people in some cities we can text to take us anywhere because we tour. That is so funny.

[Raina Greenberg]

But to have a driver on the payroll is pay him 100 grand a year, 150k a year. That's a drop in the bucket. Like, have a driver with you all the time. It's like, you work for me. This is your salaried career and you're my driver. Why would I ever drive again?

[Ash Hess]

Never drive again. Never catch me behind a wheel ever again.

[Raina Greenberg]

I do like to drive. I love to drive fast. I love to drive. But like, I mean, and I obviously don't drink and drive now, but when celebrities. I just. But didn't. Brittany. Well, Brittany, you know, that might not be Britney, I don't know, but she got a DUI recently. Like, DUIs are hot right now. Like in the news. Like that. This is like the third DUI headline in the month. Like, guys, we got to pull it together.

[Ash Hess]

I mean, DUIs are back.

[Raina Greenberg]

Stop.

[Ash Hess]

People are getting all triggered up.

[Raina Greenberg]

I am so obviously anti drinking and driving. You have so many other options.

[Ash Hess]

You have every option. Your tire was got to be a billionaire.

[Raina Greenberg]

It doesn't even.

[Ash Hess]

Doesn't matter. You make a couple million a year, you could have a full time driver.

[Raina Greenberg]

I saw this meme that was like, how is he both the best driver and the worst driver?

[Ash Hess]

Okay, so I actually will say the craziest thing about this is me finding out who he's dating because I didn't know. Did you know?

[Raina Greenberg]

No, I didn't.

[Ash Hess]

We'll drop the news.

[Raina Greenberg]

Vanessa Trump. But who is that?

[Ash Hess]

Isn't his. His granddaughter?

[Raina Greenberg]

I thought Kai was his granddaughter.

[Ash Hess]

He has a bunch of grandkids. He's three kids.

[Raina Greenberg]

Reign of Donald Trump's grandchild wouldn't date Tiger Woods. Why? Because she's like 10.

[Ash Hess]

Well, that's what Donald Trump's all About? Have you read the Epstein files?

[Raina Greenberg]

Ashley, Who's Vanessa? Who is Vanessa? No, Vanessa was married to like one of his kids. Donald Trump's former daughter in law. So she was. Kai is his granddaughter. Kai's been in the news too. I don't know who that is, but she's got something going on that's shady.

[Ash Hess]

Vanessa Trump is What?

[Raina Greenberg]

Donald Trump Jr. Or Eric Trump's ex wife. Right.

[Ash Hess]

Nesta Trump is Kai's mom.

[Raina Greenberg]

I know she's Kai's mom. I just said three times. Who's. Whose ex is she?

[Ash Hess]

Donald Trump Jr's ex.

[Raina Greenberg]

Ugh. Can you imagine? I mean, Beavis and Butthead themselves are the most hideous people alive. I cannot believe people fuck them. Like, and Tiger woods is all mixed up with that family too. Like, whatever. It's just like he is over. Right? Like he's over. Tiger woods is over.

[Ash Hess]

I think Tiger woods has been over. I think people just like, don't think this whole like, cheating on your wife so flagrantly.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, right. My God.

[Ash Hess]

And also, I think I was wrong. I think 2017 is DUI and I think 2021 was just a serious crash. I'm unsure if it was drinking related.

[Raina Greenberg]

Take this man's license away.

[Ash Hess]

Just get him away. Get him a golf cart.

[Raina Greenberg]

He should just be riding around in a golf cart. Keep it on brand.

[Ash Hess]

I drive you around.

[Raina Greenberg]

Who?

[Ash Hess]

Vanessa's daughter.

[Raina Greenberg]

She does have some golf something. I don't know. I don't care. Okay. So anyway, lock him up at this point. Throw away the key, get on the golf cart. Yeah. And so the next on the vehicular crime report is. Thieves steal 12 tons of kit Kat bars in European chocolate heist. We have been chasing this rush ever since the Louvre heist right before Easter. Could be worse. I mean, for kids in Europe who want to Kit Kats in their Easter baskets.

[Ash Hess]

At least it's not Halloween.

[Raina Greenberg]

400,000 chocolate bars weighing 12 tons from a truck in Europe. This is like the town.

[Ash Hess]

I feel okay. But the thing that's so crazy to me is like, okay, all this takes planning. All robberies, no matter what you're going to steal, takes planning. And they were like, let's plan this. And what they landed on was Kit Kat.

[Raina Greenberg]

No. Right?

[Ash Hess]

I have so many questions. There's serial numbers allegedly attached to the Kit Kat.

[Raina Greenberg]

These kit bars are hot.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah. So like, you can figure out which Kit Kats got stolen. You can't just like, sell them on the black market. Who are they selling them to?

[Raina Greenberg]

Thank you. So the quotes from the article are insane. So KitKat put out a statement, but they also gave quotes in the article. So we've always encouraged people to have a break with KitKat, but it seems thieves have taken the message too literally and made a break with more than 12 tons of our chocolate. Metaphors that a spokesperson. While we appreciate the criminals exceptional taste, the fact remains that cargo theft is an escalating issue for businesses of all sizes.

[Ash Hess]

Made like wanted to relate to the general public. They were like, this is about all of us collectively.

[Raina Greenberg]

So I have some more things to share with you. So this is not the only massive chocolate heist to have taken place recently in Europe. So a British man was sentenced to 18 months in jail in July of 2023 for stealing 200,000 Cadbury Creme Eggs. What?

[Ash Hess]

Who? I don't understand. Like, if you're going to plan all this, why would you not steal something that's like, first of all, more expensive, second of all, less perishable? Steal something perishable.

[Raina Greenberg]

Perishable. That's what's so crazy. They're going to expire. What would you. What truck would you heist? Sometimes I see that Casamigos truck and I'm.

[Ash Hess]

Oh, you want. You would do alcohol?

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't know. I see the Casamigos truck and I'm like, jewelry, could we.

[Ash Hess]

Because then like with the jewelry I sell, I could like buy all the Casamigos in the world.

[Raina Greenberg]

I was thinking, I mean, KitKat in terms of chocolate bars, it would be up there. I'm a Snickers ass bitch, but I love a Kit Kat. And then I was thinking maybe jerky. I feel like jerky's having a moment right now and it's expensive. Guys don't eat jerky and drive. No, like a big Chomps truck.

[Ash Hess]

Chomps. You do love chomps.

[Raina Greenberg]

I love Chomps. And Epic is the other brand. They're expensive.

[Ash Hess]

No, they are expensive. This smell for the good stuff. Yeah, but the smell would be absolutely disgusting. Like if I was gonna park. Yeah, yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, I would resell them. I feel like jerky is really hot.

[Ash Hess]

Where did we go that. There was an Nabisco factory and there was like a. The smell was so good. Or am I imagining this? That was enough.

[Raina Greenberg]

That sounds amazing.

[Ash Hess]

I was in Pittsburgh and it actually happened in my hometown. Okay. Also in let's Rank candy bars. My favorite is KitKat. My second favorite is Snickers. I'm not a big candy person in general. Like, I like Reese's Minis. I don't want a whole Reese's.

[Raina Greenberg]

You don't want a whole Reese's Cup.

[Ash Hess]

I like the Minis, okay? I like all Minis. I like a Hershey's bar with almonds in it.

[Raina Greenberg]

So you walk into a gas station, what candy are you getting?

[Ash Hess]

Kit Kat number one.

[Raina Greenberg]

Kit Kat's your number one. Okay. I love peanut and peanut butter. M and Ms.

[Ash Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

Regular M. M's too small.

[Ash Hess]

Did you have them in your house growing up?

[Raina Greenberg]

No, we didn't have this stuff in

[Ash Hess]

my house growing up.

[Raina Greenberg]

And that's why it made me so obsessed with it. So my parents kept a pretty healthy household. We had snacks and stuff. It wasn't, like, sad for kids, you know, when we'd cereal and we had all the things, but not a ton of, like, Ho Hos and all those, like, Hostess Pastries and stuff like that. And so I was obsessed with candy bars when I was a kid. My favorite candy bar was the Fifth Avenue.

[Ash Hess]

Do you remember that?

[Raina Greenberg]

It was similar to a Butterfinger. It was, like, kind of flaky and. But I love a peanut butter chocolate combo. But I really love M and M's, the bigger ones. And I love a Reese's cup and Snickers. I mean, Snickers is actually good for you. Like, they say, eat a Snickers before you, like, go work out.

[Ash Hess]

What?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, that was their whole thing, like, that. They did a whole marketing campaign around that. It's, like, good for, like, workouts. Like, got a bunch of stuff in there you need. Protein, peanuts. Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

Okay. So I don't like the experience of eating a Snickers as much as I like the experience of eating a Kit Kat because it's a little too, like, gooey for me. So I like the minis, but KitKats, I like when the chocolate melts around your fingers and you get to suck the chocolate.

[Raina Greenberg]

So you like to make it sexy. Naughty. Okay. So did you see statements from other brands?

[Ash Hess]

No. And I knew this was coming out. What did Wendy's get in there? Like, I was really hoping all these other brands would get in there.

[Raina Greenberg]

Just wanted to read you the statement. Thank you, Domino's. We love Domino's. We would like to share our thoughts and condolences with KitKat following their recent sad news. On a completely unrelated note, we're pleased to announce we'll now be selling a new KitKat pizza.

[Ash Hess]

Strong. That would be me. Because I want to make everything about me. On a totally unrelated note about me, Denny's.

[Raina Greenberg]

These are all D, by the way, triple Ds. We have three brands that start with D. Denny's. Official statement. We would like to make one thing clear. Whatever happened to those Kit kats happened between 1:30am and 4:00am and we were very busy. No further questions. And then DoorDash, the third D. DoorDash

[Ash Hess]

never gets in there, right?

[Raina Greenberg]

Official statement.

[Ash Hess]

Hey guys. Doordash here due to a DoorDash is 80 plus. Hey, it's dad.

[Raina Greenberg]

Hey, love dad. Hey guys, Doordash here due to a completely random package, we have 12 tons of kit Kats in our dashmarks that we can't sell. The good news, all you have to do is go to your doordash app and add like 500, 600 Kit Kats to your car and this should resolve itself quickly. Thank you. So I showed these to Shashank and he immediately was like, we have to do one for kitchen sink. So it was really funny. We workshopped it last night. So Kitchen sink. This is my husband's app. You guys can download it. We've been made aware that 12 tons of kit Kats have been stolen in transit. And we'd like to offer our deepest condolences to anyone affected by this chocolate wafer fueled heist. While we don't condone theft, if you happen to have 413,793 Kit Kats at your disposal, got a few suggestions for you with gratitude. And then we linked three recipes.

[Ash Hess]

So I woke up this morning, the first thing I saw on Instagram was this statement from kitchen sink. And I was like, did something happen last night? Like bad? And it said like, we were Gretchen formula. And I was like, what happened? I was so tired and foggy and I like. Then I swiped over and I was like, look at them go.

[Raina Greenberg]

He immediately like, I helped workshop a little bit, but I wasn't even thinking that way. The second I showed him those ones from those other brands, he was like, let's do it. So let me ask you, which of these three would you want to. Would you want a blended Kit Kat milkshake, gooey Kit Kat s' mores skillet or no bake Kit Kat cheesecake?

[Ash Hess]

Oh, okay. Fuck Mary kill. I'm gonna. I'm gonna kill the middle one. What did you. What was it? Gooey something skillet.

[Raina Greenberg]

Gooey's more skillet. No. Baked cheesecake and a milkshake.

[Ash Hess]

I'm gonna fuck the cheesecake. I'm gonna eat the ice cream. I'm gonna fuck the cheesecake. I'm gonna marry the ice cream. I could have. I eat ice cream. Like, you know, I Have a sneak ice cream. I eat it, like, four times a ice cream. But cheesecake is so decadent. I love it so much. I bought the Cheesecake Factory. Cheesecake Factory should have come out with a statement. Well, I mean, are they doing.

[Raina Greenberg]

Again, I haven't checked. Wendy's still doesn't have one on Instagram. I mean, I'm only checking Instagram, but maybe they're on Twitter. Cheesecake Factory. No, I don't see anything. Bummer. Okay, well, that is the KitKat heist, and you guys can find those recipes in the kitchen sink app if you want. But the statements that other brands made really put that story, like, as a top priority for me. I thought it was very funny.

[Ash Hess]

Okay, so crazy news that actually broke just a few minutes a couple hours before we recorded, and that is that Amanda Petula and Wes Wilson have released a joint statement that they are together from Summerhouse. If you don't watch it. And we will give you a brief summary of this. But as we were prepping for this episode, the cast had made some statements about whether or not maybe they were together. Austin Kroll from Southern Charm got involved, and people were speculating. Andy Cohen was speculating, but April Fool's is also coming up. And people were like, maybe this is. Is an April Fool's joke. So I was like, how are we going to cover this on Tuesday when, like, we may find out on Wednesdays. April Fool's joke. And we were just like, I don't think that this cast is like, I think they're silly like that to do

[Raina Greenberg]

it as an April Fool's joke. Yeah, we'll break it down. We'll. We'll read the statement. I could not believe what I was saying. I was like, this isn't real. Like, this is too juicy to be real. And people have been talking about this love triangle, or love square, if you will. You want to bring Kyle into it, whatever. As if it was scandal. And I was like, come on. And now it's like, in some ways, it's juicier. And I say, this isn't like, I don't want to find joy in anyone's pain who's hurting from this. Like, we're always like, team Sierra, and, you know, we stay Team Hannah, by the way, if you really want to get deep with it. We were texting with Hannah. Raina fired up that group chat with Hannah.

[Ash Hess]

So I was in the airport yesterday morning. I was like, how good does it feel to be right? So to give you a really quick brief synopsis, Amanda Batula Kyle Cook. They have been on Summer House since season one. Ten seasons. They got married about five years ago. The relations been super volatile. He's always been really drunk. They fight a lot. And they recently announced their divorce. Following the wrap of this season.

[Raina Greenberg]

We talked about it like a month or so ago.

[Ash Hess]

And Ciara and Wes Wilson two summers ago, sort of will they, won't they situationship, it really sort of fell apart. Wes gave all these interviews about how he really. He gave a New York Times interview about how he wasn't really that into her in the end. And, you know, that was really never his girlfriend, but had dated the whole summer. She seemed to have real feelings for him. It was really sad to watch her be so hurt by person on national TV again after, like Austin Kroll had hurt her on national television also. And Luke and I mean, she's just been sort of like she's had some unfortunate things happen to her on television for the world to watch.

[Raina Greenberg]

With white men.

[Ash Hess]

Yes, with white men.

[Raina Greenberg]

Which she came on our show and she said she was done with them. And I would like to circle back to that. Sierra.

[Ash Hess]

So this season of Summer House, which is currently airing, the whole storyline is the west is kind of into Sierra and will they get back together and they're getting along and he's touching her and flirting with her. And the most recent episode that came out is everybody was saying was Kyle's worst episode. He is yelling at Amanda. He calls her a dumb fucking bitch on television. West goes to her side. He comforts her. He seems to be being very kind. I read it as just friendship. And since then, people in the last month have started speculating. Dumois released some information saying that they were probably together because Amanda and West have been seen together around New York City a lot hanging out. But they said, we're just friends. We hang out a lot. We have similar friends. I see them in Instagram stories with our other friends all, all the time. And then three days ago, the cast starts dropping all these Instagram stories. Lindsay post her and Sierra together with this crazy face. Carl crazy face. KJ crazy face. Everybody's posting stuff. And then Austin Kroll gets in there meme faces in themselves being like aghast at something.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Ash Hess]

On Instagram, the cast are like shocked faces, shocked faces.

[Raina Greenberg]

And then people speculated Sierra and Manda had a rift. They were supposed to do this Amazon live together, and then they didn't.

[Ash Hess]

They've canceled press appearances together. And then all the way up to Austin Kroll essentially confirming it in an Instagram story with Kyle saying, like, eating pasta and fucking your friends. Exes are apparently in this season. So people are like, this probably is true. And then this morning, Amanda and Wes drop a joint statement on Instagram, black background, white on their story.

[Raina Greenberg]

So they collabed a story. And I don't think I've ever seen a announcement that we're together. Can you think of one? Like, usually you see we're breaking up. Since when have we had a black background, white writing, serious as all get out we're together. So dramatic. Due to the speculation and we're figuring this out. It's this long statement. Like, I feel like I couldn't digest it. Like, you don't see it. You see breakups, you don't see. Yes, the rumors are true. Collabed story.

[Ash Hess]

I just. I think that probably what happens is me, Wiley, somebody caught them on video finally, and that they knew this was imminently going to come out because the cast all confirmed this a couple days prior by all posting about this, which I just thought might be a little bit like fodder to promote the episodes in the season, because there's a couple more episodes of the season and then the reunion is filming in, like, two weeks.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's hard for me to ever think this stuff is real. It all feels like it's all planned, but it's not. You know, like, Scandal was real. You know, like, this shit happens in real life and it plays out on these shows, but sometimes it just feels like, oh, my God, like, how can this tea be public for us? But that's how it is. And we'll get into Mormon Wives as well. But we were circling the wagons this morning. Like, we were, like, messaging with Hannah, with Bobby, like, all kinds of people, and just, like, wanting to talk to Nick Viall, technically next Jew. Like, I was like, we really got everybody just talking about this. I mean, it was huge news. And, you know, we've come to the conclusion that this, obviously, it's real and it's been going on for a while and because otherwise they wouldn't put the statement out. If this was just like, new scene where this goes, they wouldn't burn some of these relationships to the ground. They wouldn't look like villains in this way. So my feeling is they are serious and they really like each other and they want to be public and they're gonna run around New York and everybody has a camera in their pocket and someone already posted a photo of allegedly Ciara looking like she was crying on the street today. You know, it's just like, you can't hide this stuff if you want to be out and about.

[Ash Hess]

They were emboldened to post together prior to this and now people are speculating. So I don't think they can be on the streets together. And you can look at this from different directions. Like, I know that the heart wants what it wants and you can say, and no one is saying this, but you can say, you know, west and Sierra were together years ago. They weren't in a serious relationship. Years have gone by at this point. Kyle was so terrible to Amanda. I don't care. This is despicable from both of them. This is like the one person you should not have been with. This is unbelievably despicable.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, pick somebody else again. Like, it's always weird to talk about these people because we, we do know them and we have relationships with some of them. You're just texting with west as you know. What's so funny is you were asking Wes to come on the show and then he was like, I don't really want to do a show, like during the season. And I was like, raina, I don't even care about this season. Tell him we don't want to talk about the show. I want to talk about him and his, you know, supporting women's rights and all the things. I like, really like his personality and I like what he posts about and all these things. And he, he, he's like politely declined and was like, whatever, like another time. And now I'm like, yeah, obviously. Can you imagine if you would have come on?

[Ash Hess]

Well, I followed up and I was like, you can pre approve the questions if you want. We're not trying to have a gotcha moment with you. Like, we just want to talk. We don't really want to talk about the show that much.

[Raina Greenberg]

He was like, you're going to want to trust me. But it's just, you know, I just say that to be like, it always feels a little weird talking about people that we. We know. But yeah, it's really a bummer. You know, I feel for Sierra. I mean, Sierra's a queen and she is on such a rocket ship to fame and success and I want all

[Ash Hess]

the best for her.

[Raina Greenberg]

I would never fucking cross her. No dick is that good. I would never cross Ciara especially. I would never cross my good friend. Like, just, why him? Like, I'm just.

[Ash Hess]

I'm heartbroken for her. She has nothing to be embarrassed about. These. These two should be embarrassed. This is crazy.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. So that is that this was a developing story. Everybody's commenting on it. Like, just all the Internet was abuzz. Like, people just putting out. Like, KFC has posted twice now about this, and this is just getting started as we record.

[Ash Hess]

I am so curious what's going to happen to the show because, like, Scandival really skyrocketed Vanderpump and then ended Vanderpump. Like, I don't understand how these people are going to be in a house together. And, like, you know, we always talk about the line between, like, what's messy fun and what's messy just horrible to watch. And, you know, I didn't mind watching Lindsay and Carl in a house together. By the time they were in a house together again, she had a baby, and it just felt really different. You know, nothing so terrible happened there. Like, how are. How's Kyle gonna be in a house with West? And, man, I just feel like Amanda got out of that. I don't know anything about what they're doing, so I'm gonna reserve judgment. But she got out of that marriage, and they were riding for her. This is like a Tyra Banks. Like, we were all rooting for you. The amount of brand deals that she was getting. She dropped a brand deal yesterday. Like, the amount of brand deals she was gonna get. The amount of goodwill she had from people being like, you finally escaped this, man. To just one foul swoop. Wipe that all out. I mean, this must be the go to Sierra.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, it's weird when you compare it to Ariana Maddox and Ariana Matics had, like, all Amanda's story of getting out of this toxic relationship and being the one that was betrayed, you know, and that just, like, skyrocketed her to fame. So I don't know what happens from

[Ash Hess]

here, but Amanda went from Ariana to Raquel in, like, a week, right?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. And Sierra's gonna fill that spot. I mean, Sierra's already doing all this amazing stuff, and so she's just. I love seeing her success, but I feel people felt like the show is on the way out. You know, people have been calling for, like, a spinoff in the city, and it's just like seeing these people in their 40s get drunk and blackout and screaming at each other. I think some people have been over it for a while. Paige is off the show. I mean, there's different reasons.

[Ash Hess]

Paige leaves the show and all hell breaks loose. Yeah, they had to replace her with, like, eight cast members.

[Raina Greenberg]

But it's so interesting that it could be that exact same story that like, this will be the most popular season, especially now. I haven't been watching. I'm probably gonna go back and watch now and then it could be over. Just like Vanderpump.

[Ash Hess]

I just am ready for a different cast. I guess I'm ready for it to be over. I watch this, I see these, like young 25 year olds in this house of 40 year olds. Carl's sober, Kyle's an alcoholic. Like, it's not a fun watch for me anymore. And I wonder if they dropped the statement this. I mean, because the video probably is impending. Is impending. Imminent. It's imminent.

[Raina Greenberg]

But I actually.

[Ash Hess]

Because Kyle was so terrible in this episode, I wonder if they thought they would get some like, brownie points for that. That, like, she can do whatever she wants. And I never thought Kyle would get a victim arc. And here we are.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's crazy.

[Ash Hess]

I mean, it's insane. And I don't know how close he is with west, but he's not. Not friends with West.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's crazy to do. It's like I just. There's this part of me that's like, they're in love. Cause they are risking a lot.

[Ash Hess]

Well, that's when they asked. When Andy Cohen asked Tom Sandoval and Raquel, like, are you in love? And like, they hesitated to confirm it. I'm like, you should say with your whole chest, I burned my life down because I am in love. Because I am willing to take the firing squad of this and how much people love Ciara and how terrible this looks because I am that in love with this person. Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, that's kind of the way the message read. Like, we've had this friendship and things have developed. Like, the message was like, this is real, so get on board. And people were like, we will not.

[Ash Hess]

I mean, they left their comments on and everything. Okay, so I have one final question for you because people were saying this was like the smoking gun last week and I did not agree. And I'm in the minority. So I was talking to my friend Melanie. She was like, you gotta watch the episode. You gotta catch this moment with west and Amanda. And it's after, like, Kyle is screaming at Amanda and Wes goes in to comfort her. And there's this moment where she walks out into the hallway and he kind of grabs her arm. And it didn't mean anything to me. But everybody I know that is married is like, you don't touch a person like that that you're not with.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

So you watched the video.

[Raina Greenberg]

I watched the video and it made Me feel some type of way. Horny? No, it looked like they have something between them. But also, these people are always drunk. You know, they, like, talk to each other. I think you were touchy and you look at people adoringly and you just act different when you're drunk. But my first initial reaction was like, something's more than friends here. And that's what I thought. And. But I'm also just like, I don't know, they could have wanted to again, just have that kind of drunk, dramatic moment.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah. I don't know. They seem so drunk. I assume that west and Amanda are friends. It seemed like a way that you would comfort your friend. Amanda and west are the same age. Kyle is 10 years older than them. Like, they just seemed like buddies to me. And then you would. If that is true, you'd have to assume that maybe this has been brewing since, like, July of last year.

[Raina Greenberg]

Can you imagine?

[Ash Hess]

Crazy.

[Raina Greenberg]

All right, well, developing story, guys. We will stay on it.

[Ash Hess]

And if they don't pick cameras back up for this.

[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ash Hess]

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[Raina Greenberg]

Can I tell you who was wearing one? Was Aspen Taylor, Frankie Paul's sister. I noticed that I. I looked at it and Shashank literally goes, is that the cross hot? I was like, babe, you know the name of it. The hot shot crossover set. I love it so much. I have the black and the espresso color. And we both got these quilted bags. I have been loving this one. It's great for travel. It's so lightweight and so roomy. Laptop, blanket, whatever you want to put in it to travel, like, as your carry on. And just like, so soft and comfy against your body, too. I mean, there's some bags that just are not comfy to carry, and this one's so great. And I love the sports bra. I just took a berries class with it last week. And these, like, bike shorts. And I'm obsessed.

[Ash Hess]

There's just so much to choose from. There's sweaters. They also have jackets. So whether you're working out or podcasting or running errands or maybe you're at the airport. It is just, like, comfy. It's high quality. It's great for you. It's great for a gift for other people. So you guys can visit fpmovement.com to shop their full line of activewear and workout gear.

[Raina Greenberg]

So we're just going to do a quick update on what is going on with the secret lives of Mormon Wives. I mean, it is just like a Mormon wives life, and we're living in it, you know, like, is that the right. Is that the right quote?

[Ash Hess]

It's a Mormon Wives world and we're

[Raina Greenberg]

just living in it. It's a Mormon wives world and we're just life. What am I? Mormon wife life.

[Ash Hess]

After we recorded last week the Coloradi episode with Jessie Draper dropped previously, several days before that, Jordan, her husband, had filed a divorce and gone to TMZ about it the same day that Dakota had dropped the video of Taylor. And obviously Jesse gives this whole interview about how terrible Jordan is, which she is clearly on television, how he has blackmailed her and verbally abused her and been so terrible. And, you know, we were really all rooting for her also. And then the next day, Miranda, who's on the cast, who was part of the swinging scandal with Taylor, who was married to Chase McWhorter, who Taylor also, I guess, slept with, dated. It comes out that Jesse hooked up with Chase, Miranda's ex husband.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, made out. Made out.

[Ash Hess]

So she sends Miranda these flowers, saying, like, I'm thinking of you and I'm so sorry. Miranda immediately posts the flowers on Instagram with the card basically being like, get ready with me to find out that your husband's hooking up with all of your friends.

[Raina Greenberg]

Also, the same day we posted our reel about Get Ready with me videos, Like, Miranda's doing her makeup. Like, get ready with me to find out your husband is a waiting room for all your friends. Basically, people were like, sending it to me, like, oh, my God, you guys just did this. And I mean, we're blessed. I love Miranda.

[Ash Hess]

Are there any other men in the state of Utah besides Dakota and Chase?

[Raina Greenberg]

There's no other hot liberal men that can fudge.

[Ash Hess]

I bet that's just Chase, though. Not to go.

[Raina Greenberg]

Just Chase is my point. Like, Chase is making the rounds. Chase will get you pregnant, and he will support your abortion. Chase is the only hot liberal man in that community.

[Ash Hess]

I mean, this won't stop me from DMing him when I go there next week.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm telling you, like, this just goes to show a man who cares about

[Ash Hess]

women's rights and paints his nails is.

[Raina Greenberg]

And he's going to get it in. But here's the thing. Like, wasn't Chase is part of the original swinging scandal.

[Ash Hess]

Like, he. So Chase and Miranda were married. They were the original scandal. So Chase has hooked up with Taylor, obviously. Chase. Chase also has slept with Layla. They dated, and then Layla dated Mason, his brother. And then Chase also was hooking up with Shania, who Dakota had this whole thing with this season. He had a threesome with Shania, which then Chase's sister confirmed on Instagram last week.

[Raina Greenberg]

Shania, girl.

[Ash Hess]

And now Chase and Jesse. And, like, then, you know, so funny.

[Raina Greenberg]

Jesse's gonna make out with everybody. That's for sure. Jesse and Marciano. Marciano.

[Ash Hess]

Oh, and Marciano. I'm not gonna get the quote right. But basically, like, when Miranda posted about Jesse doing this, Jordan got in the comments, Jesse's ex husband, and was just like, now we're all finding out that she's this terrible, blah, blah, and somebody just really shut the fuck up. Jordan. Yeah, you didn't eat down with this. This does not make you any less terrible.

[Raina Greenberg]

Jordan, delete your account. No, Chase. It's just like, I feel like hooking up with Chase is a Mormon tradition at this point. Like, Chase is Book of Mormon. Like, literally, it's. He is. Everyone's getting around.

[Ash Hess]

You get on the show.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's the casting couch. Sign me up. Shashank said he's. He's my hall path.

[Ash Hess]

It's part of the interview process. You get a psych eval, and you have to have sex with Jade. I mean, him and Miranda's vibe is so interesting to me. They post a lot of tiktoks together about how she's not interested in him. And so I don't think people are as mad at Jesse because I think the vibe is with Miranda that she doesn't really want to be with him. She doesn't care. Layla is also one of Miranda's best friends, and she dated Chase also.

[Raina Greenberg]

I didn't know about the Layla thing. Yeah, I missed that.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Ash Hess]

It was last season, and then she started dating Mason, so his brother, and they are since broken up as well. I don't know how much Miranda cares. I think she's just probably at this point, like, come on, can we stop with my ex husband? Can he just stop?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

But he is just sleeping his way through Salt Lake. And I would just like to say, Chase, I will be at Wise Guys Comedy Club in Salt Lake next week. I'm going to be there April 8th. I will be in Salt Lake at Wise Guys. So, Chase, if you're there and you

[Raina Greenberg]

want to see, he really needs to come watch it. Be Dakota instead. Okay, question for you.

[Ash Hess]

Who would I rather?

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, sure.

[Ash Hess]

Looks only.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. Do people think Dakota's hot?

[Ash Hess]

If I removed everything about Dakota that I know as a person, I think he's an objectively like, gorgeous man.

[Raina Greenberg]

Gorgeous. Okay. Is this the consensus? Did he get hair transplant? Also? His hair looks thicker this season. I'm just curious what people think. Let leave a comment. I mean, I do think he is very attractive. His hair does look thicker now. He looks hotter this season. He's hotter and more terrible. But I was just wondering, like, is he like this heartthrob of Utah? Okay.

[Ash Hess]

I mean, he is objectively so good looking, tall. He does have great hair. He's like beautiful eyes. His voice takes me out. It's like his tailor, like, kind of like whiny voice I really hate.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's fair. Chase.

[Ash Hess]

I like his style a lot. He's always just like doing something kind of crazy. He likes being a girl dad. He's always like posting cute stuff with his kids. Like, like, I mean, you can't remove Dakotas. Mason's not for me really. But if he just. If he cut his hair. Okay, the hair. It's the hair. That's not for me. I mean, Chase. Chase is like a buzzed head with a mustache.

[Raina Greenberg]

He looks like that driver I fucked in Grease. Does he?

[Ash Hess]

Mason.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Ash Hess]

It's a similar vibe, but I mean, if I had to pick one just by looks, don't know their personality at all. I think I'm going to coda.

[Raina Greenberg]

You're going to code.

[Ash Hess]

But I mean, spend three minutes with either one of them. Chase. It's not even. It's not. And honestly, it's a hard decision for me because I could go e.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, I finished the season. I just want to say, I cannot believe Taylor. Frankie Paul was ever cast as the Bachelorette. And I cannot believe ABC didn't check in during the season. Like, how's our girl doing? It's insane. Like you had told me. This is not take. I just want to leave it at that. That I did finish this season just becomes more and more unbelievable with every episode that they let this happen. And I stand by our firm belief that ABC made sure the show got canceled because they didn't want to air this season.

[Ash Hess]

I was shocked by people saying, speculating that AB Was gonna sue Taylor. Frankie Paul. Taylor Frankie Paul should sue them. That's crazy. And I did hear that she does get her full paycheck. Cause she did complete the assignment, essentially.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, good.

[Ash Hess]

And everybody knew about this. This was in a police report. I'm surprised ABC did not have producers on the set of Mormon Wives. At least getting screeners ahead of time. This is a person that was unwell and everybody stood to benefit from her going on this show.

[Raina Greenberg]

You can feel it. Yes.

[Ash Hess]

And this is a person that was really unwell and should not have been put in this position. And, you know, to film. So they actually, like, never take breaks from filming Mormon wives. It's back to back to back seasons and reunions. And then she, what, just gets up and goes to film three months, 18 hours a day of the Bachelor. Like she was put in an impossible position. So anyways, I'm glad you finished it. This is very crazy. Stay tuned for who Chase sleeps with next.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, so really quickly, we just wanted to recap Age of Attraction. There was a reunion that aired last night, so. So Netflix didn't air the reunion. Nick Viall aired it on his podcast, essentially on the Vial Files. Him and Natalie hosted the show. And this happens sometimes with newer shows. You don't get a reunion right away. I mean, Summerhouse didn't have a reunion for years. So I love that he took it into his own hands and he sent us the screener so we were able to take a look at it. So, you know, I didn't think anyone was gonna last on the show, but I really did enjoy the show. Everyone looked so hot at the reunion. Everyone's really well behaved. I mean, you got a lot of older people in the room, you know, keeping it classy. But who's still together? Vanessa and Logan are still engaged. I cannot believe they are together. Got engaged. I mean, they just bickered all the time. You just didn't see that coming. And then Libby and Andrew, that super smoke guy, and Jessica Simpson, they are still together. And Teresa and John, the first couple to really go into the promise room together. And the biggest age gap, 27, 54. Who was younger than some of her kids or her one son, they broke up. And I think that was a bummer. People were like rooting for them. So that's really what happened. And I did do doppelgangers for this, but we're kind of in a time crunch day, so I think I'm gonna do on my Instagram because I have this one spoke to me. I have a lot of them do

[Ash Hess]

it in tandem as the reunion comes out today.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. So I'll just post that. Check my Instagram. Ash Hess. I'm gonna do all my side by sides for Age of Attraction if you guys care. But thank you to Nick for letting us screen this and talk about it. I'm glad that they did the reunion. Cause I. I saw that whole show through and was like, I want to know What? Where everybody stands.

[Ash Hess]

Well, you know, they used to not give Summer House reunion. They didn't even get a reunion until Hannah and Paige came out of the scene. And, like, it's disappointing when you don't get to see, like, what happens at the end of these shows.

[Raina Greenberg]

I know. So I. I love this. And he sent us a long cut, and it wasn't fully edited, I don't think. And I was like to edit this because we were talking about it. The people who have to edit these reunions down from what, 10 hours to like an hour or two or sometimes there's two parts, obviously. But I was just like the people who ed just. I want to give them all their flowers.

[Ash Hess]

I don't know how you do it. I really don't. Mormon wives, they were like, let's just do all of dad talk. Let's just have them on the stage

[Raina Greenberg]

for the entire women from the stage. Let's remove the Mormon wives from the stage.

[Ash Hess]

And, you know, love story. The finale came out. It is over finally.

[Raina Greenberg]

I didn't finish it. I threw in the towel.

[Ash Hess]

You know, I started watching the show.

[Raina Greenberg]

I didn't love it.

[Ash Hess]

Then I started to like it because I like you and I both like 90s New York City and the fashion. Calvin Klein. And that was kind of fun to watch. I mean, overall, I thought it was kind of hacky. The characters are not believable to me at all. They just sell you that this is the sort of, like, regular guy, this regular couple. They're at a dive bar in the middle of the day having a drink. No, they're not. That's the son of the most famous president in the world. This is the most famous family besides the Kardashians.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

So it's over. But I wanted to tell you something funny, and I want to know what you thought about this, because, like, so many people are, like, emulating Carolyn Bessette's style, and they just want to look just like her. And this is like, swept in nation, this look. And I keep looking at it being like, this is so plain. And Melanie said to me, this is just a girl. Like a model looks like she went to Everlane. Like.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

Don't you think? It's just, like, the fashion is not that amazing and inspiring. It is just like a very tall, thin, objectively beautiful person with a perfect face and perfect hair in some really plain, like, Everlane gap clothes.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, she looks put together and she looks classy, and she is giving quiet luxury. I feel like she was the pioneer of that without realizing that. But I saw this one take, and I don't remember who it was. It was someone who.

[Ash Hess]

Who.

[Raina Greenberg]

Who knew her. I could never find this if I tried. But I saw someone kind of speaking on it with authority, and they were like, she wasn't this fashion icon. Like, y' all think she was just greasy hair in a ponytail, like she was just throwing on whatever. And people have turned her into this icon that. No insult to her. She was just putting on whatever, and she just looked great, you know? So it was kind of like people have idealized her into something that she didn't care about. Like, she wasn't the fashion girly. I guess that's what they said.

[Ash Hess]

But that's what I'm saying. This is just an objectively flawless looking person. She could put on anything. I could put on those outfits that would look like her. You know the person I think probably who said this is Carol Radziwell, who was formerly a Real Housewives of New York, and she is gonna be on the new Real Housewives of New York. She was left out of the show. And basically she was married to Anthony Radziwell, who is the. The son of Jackie Onassis sister.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, so she is related to me, Lee Radzewell.

[Ash Hess]

Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah. So she's part of your family. So Carol had always said that her and Anthony were best friends with JFK Jr. And Carolyn, and then they passed away. And then her husband Anthony died a couple weeks later. And she refused in Real Housewives to talk about this. It was in her contract. She would not talk about knowing the Kennedys. She did not want to be on television talking about this. And she was left out of Love Story. And now she's on this. This interview circuit talking to anybody that she can Deuxmoi the New York Times, giving all these quotes and interviews. Everybody else associated with the show that's alive is like, this is crap. And I don't wanna be associated with this. And Carol Radzwell is like, how high can I wave my hand for this?

[Raina Greenberg]

Really?

[Ash Hess]

And it is shocking why she did Dumois podcast whatever she gave her claws into. Yes. And anyone who will listen. It's crazy to me because, like, you have Jackson and Daryl Hanna being like, I don't want to be associated with this. This is all fictionalized. This is bullshit.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

Carol's like, how much can I do interviews about this? It's very cringe. But I'm thinking maybe it's because she's gonna be on the new Real Housewives So she's trying to get her name out there again. But it is just. It's very funny to watch.

[Raina Greenberg]

That makes sense.

[Ash Hess]

Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

Nothing's real. No. Okay. Thank you for explaining that to me. I. You kept trying to tell me about it like rain. I can't. I don't know why. I'm not digesting this. I'm not understanding who this woman is. And so thank you for breaking it down because she is in my family, obviously. We are distance cousins with Jackie O, my grandmother. Somehow she's in the family tree. Okay, well, we are just gonna leave you guys with a few headlines right off the bat. Kristi Noem is blindsided by cross dressing husband who put her at risk for blackmail. So this is developing story. Christy's having a tough month. She was fired. He loved to see us. Bruce Jenner. I guess the. There's pictures of her husband, compromising photographs. You know, it's always these people. The call is always coming from inside the house. It's always people who want never not take rights away from gay people or trans people or whatever it is that have their own skeletons. Whatever he's doing, he's welcome to do. But I just this. It is always the case.

[Ash Hess]

Val Daw protests too much. It is crazy. You're trying to protect people from people like this. It's your husband.

[Raina Greenberg]

We don't know all the ins and outs of this. We just heard about it, so you guys can do your own research. But we had to get that headline out. And the Laguna beach cast reunited at a black and white affair last week in la. And Lauren and Kristen were on the red carpet together. They did a TikTok together. We'll show it on YouTube. They did this like Miley Cyrus audio. Just like, we're so different, but we're friends. Like they. Kristen captioned it. Besties.

[Ash Hess]

It's so crazy.

[Raina Greenberg]

The world is healing.

[Ash Hess]

Look at people growing up.

[Raina Greenberg]

Did you see what Kristen wore?

[Ash Hess]

He was like that throwback from. From the show.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes. Like the white dress and the. The choker we talked about.

[Ash Hess]

Do you think Kristen didn't even know? Do you think she's just still dr?

[Raina Greenberg]

I was like, that's like, oh, I had that in my closet. We love to see the black joker make a resurgence. So Grok the AI bot misidentifies Druski's Erica Kirk as the real person. So let me just break this down. So Drew Ski, who is number one creator now on the Internet, his sketches just take off. They go crazy. And he impersonates people and he impersonates. He's a black man. He does white people, whatever. So he did Erica Kirk. He didn't say her name. The video just says how conservative women in America act. And he impersonates her. Did you watch the full video?

[Ash Hess]

Yeah, it's. I mean, I really. I mean, I know it's not her.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, for sure. But it's.

[Ash Hess]

But like, AI didn't.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. So people asked Grok, Elon Musk's AI Bot, whatever, is this Erica Kirk? And Grok identified him as Erica Kirk.

[Ash Hess]

And.

[Raina Greenberg]

And there's fan fiction surrounding this that Erica Kirk sent a cease and desist. I don't think that that's really accurate. And there was this thing Joe Exotic got in the comments. Did you see this? No, I was seeing that Joe Exotic posted that. We all know Erica Kirk put a hit out on Charlie Kirk. And then someone wrote, joe, how are you writing this from prison? And he was like, it's all corrupt girl. And I cannot. I don't think this is real.

[Ash Hess]

Joe's always commenting from prison. Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

I couldn't find this actual comment.

[Ash Hess]

He always comments stuff. He's always just like, getting in there. And we're always like, joe, how are you commenting on. On stuff? This is a pervasive issue.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. But the fact that he said that I didn't take off as much as I feel like it should have. So I. Let us know if you guys. I'll ask Rock after this if that's real or not. But, I mean, this Drew Ski video is so good. And he never says her by name. And he does all the things like he does the blue eyes, all her. The insane way she speaks. Jawline, her coming out.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

The smush Barbie doll head. And I just think that's crazy that, you know, that's what's taken off this week in terms of. Of in the Erica Kirk world. And also that they're saying the bullet is not. The bullet doesn't match the gun. That they said Tyler, whoever. What's his name?

[Ash Hess]

I don't know. No one knows his name because we never heard anything about him ever again. We never heard anything about the person that shot Donald Trump ever again.

[Raina Greenberg]

So that's what's in the news this week. But then some people are like, bullets change forms or I don't know. But people are again, speculating that was staged. That the bullet was not even from that. That guy's gun.

[Ash Hess]

This is the most conspiracy theorist I become is this story.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ash Hess]

Okay. And lastly, United is launching Relaxroads. So Lie flat economy seats. And the Internet went crazy about this. So I just thought at first it was because TSA lines were so long and people were all missing their flights and there's just these empty flights. When I saw it, I thought United was just like, fuck it, let them lay down. But United is selling these economy seats. It's basically like three economy seat seats across and you can lay down and it's like, nice for people with kids to travel with. I mean, I want to travel like

[Raina Greenberg]

this, so it's going to be next year. But yeah. It says there's adjustable leg rests that fold up to a 90 degree angle and create this spacious lie fat sleeping area. And it does seem like families.

[Ash Hess]

Yeah, it looks like people with kids.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, I don't know. Three seats price wise, it would have to make sense. I mean, a lie flat seat these days, one way, 2500, 2000. So three economy seats, I mean, you could probably do them all for a thousand. I don't know what.

[Ash Hess]

I mean.

[Raina Greenberg]

You are going to save money, I think, no matter what. But absolutely. I just think it's so funny that someone across the aisle from you, like you could be in a middle seat and you look across the aisle and there's a family sleeping, there's a mom and two kids sleeping, and you're in a middle seat on a long flight, you're like this. I don't want to see that.

[Ash Hess]

Like, that's why they have at least have the curtains on the other side.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like you're separated from the people in the live flats and economy. And now they're right there. Fucking playpen. Set up, pack and play. A mom with her two kids and the whole family's asleep.

[Ash Hess]

Are you legally allowed to do this on planes? Like, if I just bought three economy seats. So, like, I fly to New York a lot. The economy seats to New york are like 200 bucks and then the delta ones are like 2500. Can I just buy three economy seats and sleep like that? Or they, like, make you, like, be a person.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, but I think they give you the stuff to make it into a bed. Make it a bed.

[Ash Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

But you're like, I brought my own bed. That is so funny.

[Ash Hess]

I bought my own bed.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, yeah, you can buy as many seats as you want. And sometimes people who are bigger will buy two seats and just have more room. I think Nikki Glazer, I swear, I don't want to misspeak on her, but I swear, like so many years ago when she had plenty of money to fly however she wanted to. She was like, I prefer to buy multiple seats in economy. I think I'm pretty certain that she would was like, she was never in first or she was never in Delta one lay flat. She was like, I like to have a few seats at my disposal in the back.

[Ash Hess]

I mean, unless you're getting a lay flat. Those seats are very similar. Like a row three first class seat and a row 16. Middle and end, right? Same seat.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. I had a great seat on United recently. I flew United to Newark. I love, I love Newark Airport, Newark, New Jersey. And it was the first row in the like economy, but like premium economy. The bulkhead and no one in the middle. So there was someone on the end and I was at the window. I was like, this is a dream. But the seat wasn't huge. But with no one next to me, I was like, I will die for this seat, girl.

[Ash Hess]

33A on a Delta flight from LAX to New York City is what I prefer. I say, do not upgrade me to comfort. I want only a first class upgrade if I'm going to be upgraded because I want 33A. That is the biggest row. It's huge.

[Raina Greenberg]

There was one time I sat in the seat that was like. I thought it was a bulkhead and I felt like I was on the wing. I couldn't explain it. I was like, there was electrical stuff around me. Like the screen popped out of the armrest. I was like, never again.

[Ash Hess]

I was in an exit row yesterday and there was no armrest.

[Raina Greenberg]

No. Unacceptable.

[Ash Hess]

Terrifying.

[Raina Greenberg]

Give me my money back. Okay, guys, well, that is your snack. Lots of tea. We got through a lot in an hour, so. So we will see you guys here in LA on May 7th. US and the Chippendales come horny for the best show tickets atgirls gotta eat dot com. You can find us on Instagram at Girls Gotta Eat podcast. Also on TikTok. Girls gotta eat podcast. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina is raina.greenberg raina greenberg.com for tickets to Salt Lake City and more. And you can watch full video on YouTube and Spotify. So check that out. Subscribe Share this episode with a friend, leave a rating or a comment and we will see a Monday day.

[Ash Hess]

Have a good week, guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

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