The Snack: Breakup Season, Rage Bait, and the Political Climate

Summary

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Girls Gotta Eat — The Snack: Breakup Season, Rage Bait, and the Political Climate

Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine and Rayna Greenberg
Episode Date: September 18, 2025
Network: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

In this light and fast-paced “Snack” episode, Ashley and Rayna tumble through timely pop culture—what’s up with celebrity breakups, the controversial power of ‘rage bait’ in marketing and media, wild award show moments at the Emmys, and reflections on a particularly heated political week in America. With their signature comedic banter, the hosts dish on everything from airport merch obsessions and dating show shakeups to managing social-media toxicity and national heartbreaks, making space for candid talk about mental health and empathy amid political and cultural divides.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Airport Merch & Shopping Addictions

[00:14–05:09]

• The hosts banter about the origin and fit of their favorite hats and airport shopping compulsions.
• Lamentation and nostalgia over city-branded, “elite” airport sweatshirts.
• Quote: "Airport merch in general is the best merch." – Ashley, [01:27]
• Rayna admits her shopping fix is now mainly Poshmark. Ashley notes privacy concerns as a semi-public figure, including using fake names on apps (Uber, Poshmark).

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2. Breakup Season: Celebrity Splits & Speculation

[05:09–14:26]

• Breakup Season: September–October, often a spike in celebrity breakups; this year’s been calmer until recent news.
• Chase Stokes & Kelsea Ballerini: Their breakup right after a loving birthday Instagram tribute prompts speculation about timing, with Ashley noting, “You almost never see celebrities like this, just tired, cooking at home…what a sweet tribute to her. And two days later, they broke up.” [07:01]
• Nina Dobrev & Shaun White: Another surprising split. The hosts lament only headlines about Nina’s devastation, noting the double standards in media coverage.
• Shipping Sean Evans and Keke Palmer: A playful tangent about celebrity couples they wish to see, especially after a viral “Hot Ones” kiss.
  • Quote: “If they're both single, they eat a bunch of wings and have a spicy little kiss.” – Rayna, [14:21]

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3. Emmys Recap: Speeches, Speeds, and Statements

[14:26–22:02]

• Quick, irreverent breakdown of the Emmys:
  • Nate Bargatze’s Hosting: Quirky format—tickers on acceptance speeches, docking charitable donations for overage.
  • Hannah Einbender’s Speech: Stands out for its defiance (“I don't care, I'll pay it”) and forceful stances (“Go Birds, fuck ICE, Free Palestine!”) under time pressure.
    • Quote: “She got up there and... as the ticker was running she goes, I don't care, I'll pay it. And I was like, yes, go off.” – Ashley, [17:29]
  • Hosts wonder if time constraints are a tactic due to fears over political statements (“Tensions are very, very high right now…let's just clip them.” – Ashley, [18:53]).
• Noting both admiration and criticism for concise, impactful political statements, e.g. on Palestine, healthcare, and beyond.
• Highlights of red carpet fashion, specifically Meg Stalter’s jeans and T-shirt and Sydney Sweeney’s attention-grabbing red gown.

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4. Rage Bait: Marketing, Media, and the Cycle of Outrage

[27:45–36:40]

• Definition & Examples:
  • Rage bait = content engineered to outrage or provoke, boosting exposure (e.g., Sydney Sweeney’s “I have great jeans” American Eagle ad, Kim Kardashian’s “face shaper,” Kris Jenner & Mac internal-use photo leak).
  • “Are there people sitting around knowing this will incite rage and lead them to more exposure? ...they’re laughing all the way to the bank.” – Rayna, [30:01]
• Media Headlines: Both lament inflamed, misleading, or clickbait headlines from “respectable” outlets (HuffPo, Washington Post), which can distort nuance and fuel anxiety.
  • “You can write every single headline in the style of the completely unbiased wire news like AP or Reuters or whatever, and it will still be horrifying…” – Ashley, [32:29]
• Discussion expands to both sides of mainstream political coverage using rage bait, the erosion of trust, and the responsibility media bears.
• Notable wisdom for listeners:
  • “Act with your wallet…rage bait is powerful, but its influence relies on us playing along.” – Ashley quoting Glamour UK, [32:24]
  • Emphasis on taking breaks from devices to manage “rage addiction”—based on a Carlos Whitaker post ([35:00]).

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5. Political Climate: Grief, Double Standards, and Empathy

[36:40–49:26]

• Reaction to Violence:
  • Sincere acknowledgment and mourning following a tragic shooting (of political figure Charlie Kirk), but noting the discomfort with selective outrage and politicized mourning.
  • Hard questions about why some victims receive relentless coverage and national mourning, while others (like Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband) are ignored, even by top officials.
  • “I don't want to live in a country where you are shot for your opinions…But I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I agreed with his ideals and his beliefs, ‘cause I didn't.” – Rayna, [37:37]
• Double Standards & Amplification:
  • “The President is claiming he didn’t know about it...and this person, this media personality, is being treated like a war hero.” – Ashley, [42:06]
• Mental Health Impact: Both hosts admit the toll: “I feel like I’m living this double life, doing shows, planning a wedding, making people laugh...and I don’t feel like that on the inside.” – Ashley, [47:55]
• Empathy: Strong call for continued empathy across differences.
  • “Charlie Kirk…hated the word empathy. He said it was this woke thing. And that's the thing: I just want people to have more of.” – Ashley, [46:32]

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6. Rapid Pop Culture Headlines

[54:12–60:45]

• Coachella 2026 Lineup: Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, and Karol G will headline. Hope for Bieber’s performance, laughter over falling festival attendance.
• The Bachelorette News: Taylor Frankie Paul (from “Mormon Wives” on Hulu) crossing to ABC as the new lead: “This is an unhinged decision by ABC, and you'd love to see it.” – Rayna, [55:51]
• Taylor Swift at the Chiefs/Eagles Game: Sneaking in via “accordion wall” to avoid fans, triggering fashion/appearance speculations and jokes about media conspiracies.
• Charlie Sheen Netflix Docuseries: Brief teaser from Rayna for future episode discussion, described as a “wild ride.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On influencer spin cycles:
  “I'm going to pop into the airport and be like, do you guys do affiliates?” – Ashley, [03:32]
• On celebrity breakups:
  “I assume most celebrities have broken up six to eight weeks prior to them announcing it…they want to digest how they feel.” – Ashley, [08:25]
• On rage as a societal drug:
  “There's a new drug people have not only become addicted to, but we've become junkies to. And it's rage. And the needle is the thing you're reading this on.” – Ashley [citing Carlos Whitaker, 35:45]
• On media clickbait:
  “We could do it way more…with the way we title episodes… sometimes I don’t want to be misleading, and I don’t want to invite negative reactions just for engagement.” – Rayna, [34:38]
• On political double standards:
  “Your kindness has to extend to all victims on any side. And we can't appear to be cherry picking some victims that were more important than other victims.” – Ashley, [45:13]
• On mental balancing acts:
  “I feel like I'm living this double life where I'm doing shows and making people laugh, and I don't feel like that on the inside.” – Ashley, [47:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |-------------------------------------- |---------------| | Airport Merch & Hats | 00:14–05:09 | | Breakup Season & Celebrity Splits | 05:09–14:26 | | Emmys Recap & Political Speeches | 14:26–22:02 | | Rage Bait in Media & Marketing | 27:45–36:40 | | Political Violence & Selective Outrage| 36:40–49:26 | | Pop Culture Headlines | 54:12–60:45 |

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Tone & Style

The tone is breezy, self-deprecating, and sharply observant—balancing pop culture commentary with moments of earnest vulnerability about grief, anxiety, and the current American scene. The hosts slide nimbly from sassy, comedic asides (“We get it. With your big ass titties. We get it.” – Ashley, [21:34]) to careful, respectful navigation of deeply emotional or polarizing news, always foregrounding honesty and empathy for their audience. Their “Snack” offers both escapism and a rare willingness to face the week’s darkness head on, as best friends might over brunch.

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This summary covers all major topics, memorable moments, and key quotes from the episode—useful for anyone who missed the show or wants to revisit the conversation’s highlights.

Transcript

[A]

This week on the Snack. Breakup season is upon us, and we are discussing rage, bait, advertising, the current political climate, and more. This is a Dear media production.

[B]

Enjoy. Hi, guys.

[A]

Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of the Snack.

[B]

I just realized I bought you that hat.

[A]

Oh, cute. Yeah, I've been looking at that hat thinking, like, I love that. And I was like, I bought that.

[B]

You did. Well, you know, it's funny because I brought the other one.

[A]

It's like you brought a backup hat in case you didn't want to wear the one I bought you. Okay, so.

[B]

So here's the tea on the hat. You got me this hat right before we moved to la. The LA one that's on my initials. I wish I was sitting to this side facing the camera, because this is 47, and it does not mean the president. I want to be fair, clear. It's funny. What is the 47?

[A]

Why does it say that?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

47.

[B]

You got me this, like, nice customized hat, but it comes down a little low on my ears.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So I can't really wear it with sunglasses, so I'm wearing it today.

[A]

It does come down low.

[B]

It comes down really low. So this is the other one that I bought in the airport.

[A]

It looks a little dirty. What'd you get on?

[B]

It's a little dusty. Remember when I was in my airport shopping era? I couldn't stop. I was just buying so much airport merch.

[A]

Do you know, too many times I've gotten off the plane in LAX and bought a 200 Spanx set?

[B]

So I've been wanting to talk about this. There is my shopping addiction. An elite airport sweatshirt that I have, the Boston one. I've worn it to record in. You guys have seen it in every airport.

[A]

It.

[B]

There's like, just Boston or every city.

[A]

Airport merch in general is the best merch.

[B]

We'll put it on the screen. It's like, navy and white. It's navy. It usually says the name of the city across the chest. And it's got, like, the white, like, stripes on the arms. And Megan has a Las Vegas one. I think it feels like it's this real, I don't know, flex of, like, where you've been or something. Like, obviously there's Los Angeles, there's New York. Like, they have them in every city, and it's just like, everyone should have one, and I think we should all have to buy. When they're not expensive, they're like, no. Like, you pick your city. Like, you ride for your city.

[A]

Like, okay. I've been meaning to ask you this because, you know, I've been at the airport a lot lately. I've been in New York, specifically a lot lately. I have really been, like, inching towards an I love New York sweatshirt. And I just. I want one, and I feel like, 100%. I feel like I'm ready to wear it 100%. It used to be this, like, cheesy thing, and now there's, like, the airport. I want to get that New York every time, every day. Every other day when I'm at jfk, I walk by the Hudson News with the I love New York sweatshirt, and I'm just ready for it.

[B]

So the best mugs in the city are in the airport where I love New York. So I have the bright yellow one. It's just I love New York with a big heart. They have hot pink. They have. It's the perfect hot pink. Hot yellow. I have a black and a yellow one for me, and my fiance bought them first. Both. I was like, we need these in our collection. The best mugs at the airport, best magnets. But this sweatshirt, you guys know it. And if you're traveling this weekend, go look at what this very specific sweatshirt. I feel like I see them more and more, and it feels like this message you're trying to send, like, that's my city. And, I mean, I don't know. I have Boston. I'm going to stick with Boston. I'm probably not going to do another one.

[A]

Well, you lived in New York for a long time. You have New York.

[B]

You pick us. Pick one.

[A]

New York's my city.

[B]

It's whatever you feel like you want to represent. Yeah, well, for whatever reason, elite marches.

[A]

Is it Hudson News everywhere.

[B]

I don't even know if it's the Hudson News. I really don't think it is. I think it's another airport shop. But you guys know the sweatshirt. It's navy and white. It's, like, feels a little cheap, but it looks nice.

[A]

And it's like, 30 bucks. I shop my link.

[B]

Yeah. I'm gonna pop into the airport and be like, do you guys do affiliates?

[A]

Why not? Oh, my God. I feel like Poshmark has healed my shopping addiction. I just need, like, a hit of something, and, like, that's the hit. Okay.

[B]

Then you actually have to buy the thing.

[A]

I do shot. I do Poshmark under a fake name.

[B]

Obviously, because people that come to your house to pick up.

[A]

Oh, you mail it.

[B]

No. Well, this is also gets weird when you're kind of like, A. A person in the world, a public figure, quote, unquote, whatever. You guys know I don't call each other, like, celebrities by any stretch, but, like, when you want to, like, leave a review, like, I had, like, a weird hotel experience, and they were able to really kind of rectify the number of things that went wrong. But I was thinking, like, if they didn't, would I leave a review? And then you're. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Celebrities use fake. I have. I use a fake name on Poshmark Uber. You know, Uber is not my real name.

[B]

I know, but it's all tied together. Like, it's tied to my, like, hotels.com or my Google or whatever.

[A]

Change your name.

[B]

I'm gonna do a fake account. Start trolling.

[A]

I love. So my Uber name. I'm not gonna tell you guys what it is, but I have a different Uber name. And every time an Uber pulls up and I'm with a new friend, they're like, hi, we're here for whatever. And it's just like this very cute look. Little jump scare. People are like, what? Like, is she okay?

[B]

Well, that's.

[A]

It's like, you guys know I like using fake names. I use the name Ashley everywhere I go. All right, we're thank our partners and we're get into it. Thank you to function our first 1000 listeners, get a $100 credit towards your membership at fun functionhealth.com GGE or use the code GGE 101 with Avenue. Head to Sax 5th Avenue or Saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style.

[B]

And thank you to Nutrafol. Get $10 off your first order and free shipping at Nutrafol.com with code GGE10. Okay, so we're gonna kick it off with a breakup report to kick off breakup season. To kick off breakup season. So breakup season is September, October. So we're really in kind of like the preseason, right?

[A]

This is pre games. It's preseason.

[B]

This is preseason. So some people are doing preseason breakups. But Rain and I did an episode a few years ago. I checked the date. I think it was October 4th, and everyone was breaking up from people we knew to celebrities. And it has really felt like that every year.

[A]

And up until now, this year it hasn't. So I googled, like, what were the big breakups in 2025 so far? Not a lie.

[B]

They're upon us.

[A]

It's just. It's a couple of, like, reality show people. There hasn't been really crazy breakups this year at all. I went through all of them, but now it's upon us. So this one was a real jump scare for me. So a few days, as we're recording this a few days ago, I see Chase Stokes, the star of the show Outer Banks.

[B]

Who was that earlier? I was like, wait, who was that again?

[A]

He's the star of the show Outer Banks, and he has been with Kelsey Ballerini for three years. And we know her from the first season of Southern Charm when Craig was trying to date her.

[B]

Is she a country singer?

[A]

Yes, but I'm making a joke.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Sorry, guys. So it was either the first or second season of Southern Charm. They're on, like, a ship doing, like, this is such a throwback, like, some charity thing. Second season, I think the second season, and they're on some ship in the harbor in Charleston. She's performing, and then they have to raffle off some man, and Craig, like, buys her before she was famous, predates her big.

[B]

This is giving Lady Gaga on the Hills.

[A]

I remember it.

[B]

This is a real deep cut for the millennials. Elder millennials. Lady Gaga was on the hills.

[A]

Lady Gaga was also in Gossip Girl, okay. Performing at NYU in some dorm.

[B]

Unreal.

[A]

So I see Chase Stokes post this thing about Kelsey Ballerini turning 32. It's this roundup of photos. It's like 10 photos. And it's really, like, intimate moments of them. Just like, no makeup, stripped down in their home, just being, like, silly and cute. And I had this thought, like, you almost never see celebrities like this, like, being tired, going home from dinner, or just, like, cooking at home. Like, they were very, like, intimate moments. And I had this moment where I was like, what a sweet tribute to her. And two days later, they broke up.

[B]

What are you saying?

[A]

And officially, officially made the statement that they made a statement. Two days later, she made the statement that they broke up, which is like.

[B]

He didn't do enough for her birthday. He didn't appropriately celebrate her on her birthday. She didn't like the carousel.

[A]

Do you think he bought her, like, okay. One of the worst things I think you can get a woman for the birthday is like a vacuum, not a Dyson.

[B]

Please. What an amazing gift.

[A]

Okay, I'm going to walk it back if it's not a Dyson. One year, my dad got my mom a soup tureen so she could cook more soup, and she threw it at him.

[B]

Yeah, but what are you supposed to do when you're married? Like, romantic little gifts. You kind of get him a kitchen gadget.

[A]

I think a lot of people feel that it implies you should cook for me and you should clean for me.

[B]

No, I think it's a little too easy to think it was about the birthday gift, even though I started that conversation. I mean, what else? I'm just saying, like, what else could it have been? This is crazy. You don't see this 48 hours.

[A]

I assume most celebrities have broken up six to eight weeks prior to them announcing it. Because people get back together. They want to digest how they feel about things. I assume this has happened far in the past.

[B]

And other relationship markers like engagements like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce didn't get engaged that day. It was like the week before. I mean, you wait a beat, you figure out what the messaging, and then you post for the masses. So I am really curious of what happened here for two people I really don't know much about or care about.

[A]

Right, sure. So I care now. Other conspiracy theories are that they had broken up and that he didn't want people to speculate that something was wrong. And I was like, let's hard stop that theory. I don't think he posted a carousel of 10 photos of their very private, intimate moments. Because somebody might think Chase Stokes is a diversion. Like, they are not Taylor and Travis.

[B]

Yeah, but it doesn't even make any sense. What, to throw us off the scent?

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Like, who cares?

[A]

They're famous. Not that famous, you know, so it was interesting. So, I mean, I'm assuming something happened like the 48 hours. Like, what could it be besides cheating? But she has not confirmed or denied.

[B]

All right, well, let us know your guys theories in the comments and if you've ever broken up two days after your birthday with somebody or their birthday.

[A]

I don't think I have. No.

[B]

I'm sure me and my ex did, but we broke up every 48 hours anyway.

[A]

Just for fun.

[B]

Just for fun.

[A]

And then the other breakup is Nina Dobrev and Shaun White. And I really just like love them as a couple. They've been together five and a half years. They were engaged, they were building a house together, putting out a lot of content about it. And she put out some stuff that people were saying was a little cryptic, which I don't agree. She just did a voiceover of like, I don't know her name. She's that old lady that does stuff like, all men are gonna let you down, so pick the richest one. Do you have time for that? No, you guys, I'm sorry, I don't know her name. She's so cool.

[B]

Also, Nina debreve is an actress and Shaun White is an Olympic snowboarder.

[A]

Is that right? Maybe. Is he a snowboarder or a skateboarder?

[B]

Not. No, he's Winter Olympics. But he is a skateboarder also right now, so. But he is a three time Olympic gold medalist.

[A]

Okay. So one of those things, like sort of in snowboarding.

[B]

Okay. He's won 10 SB awards. Whatever. He's. He's a big deal. And I just liked them. I've always liked him. I like her. I don't know them personally, but I really was upset to hear that one.

[A]

And I was bummed. And also, all the headlines are like, nina Dobrev is reportedly devastated about the breakup. That's what I see, every headline. I haven't seen one headline about him being upset. And it's like, I think it's weird to like, call out just the woman.

[B]

Exactly. Also, like, I. I'm sure they both are upset. They were engaged.

[A]

Yeah. Some relationships just run their course. I don't know.

[B]

So, okay, so they're locking off breakup season. I have a couple that I want to get together. And so here's the couple that I am shipping to get together. And I don't know if you saw this, but Sean Evans from Hot Ones and Kiki Palmer.

[A]

Isn't he married?

[B]

No, I hope not. Kiki Palmer just kissed him on his show. I guess he said he had a crush on Kiki Palmer during that, that chicken shop date.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And they told her on Watch what Happens Live and they both just reacted really cutely. So she just went on Hot Ones and they did a little kiss. They did a little smooch.

[A]

Okay, so he does not have a wife. I don't know why I thought I'd. So you and I saw him speak at south by Southwest this year and I was like, he's so cute. And then I thought that he had a wedding ring on, but maybe I just told myself that because I didn't get to say hi to him.

[B]

That's how you comforted yourself.

[A]

No, but I really, I really ship this. I think he's just like, so unassuming, but, like, such a good speaker. He's so fun. She's so spicy. Like, I love it.

[B]

She is my absolute favorite. She is great energy all the time. Any. I mean, I follow her, but any clip that comes to my feed, I have to watch it. I love everything she says I loved. Recently, she was going viral, talking about dating and women, like successful women. The type of pressure people put on them to date a certain type of man. And even just recently, she was going off about a jammy egg, like, I just love her. I adore her. Everything she does. I was seeing her, she was doing a streaming with Kai Senat. The, like, streamer and his boys were in the room and thought she was Mary J. Blige. And they were like, my mom loves you. And she's. They started singing Real Love. She just, like, joined and started singing it.

[A]

Like, I.

[B]

She never misses her. I know. I really am.

[A]

You say to me, like, every three months why we had her on show.

[B]

I'm a huge fan of Anyone Knows. I know we've been trying to get her on, but I don't know. I mean, this is just a funny thing. But I like that they kissed.

[A]

And if you guys don't know, hot ones. It started as this YouTube show. I mean, it still is one where Sean Evans has all these celebs on to eat, eat all of these, like, spicy wings and see, like, the highest level they can reach. And the craziest episode that anybody's ever seen is Ariana Grande.

[B]

Ariana Grande.

[A]

I mean, she reached the tip top level. And it's funny. Most people get to, like, the second or third wing and they can't speak. They're choking, chugging milk, tears running down their eyes. It is the funniest show. And it's like, what a good way to meet somebody romantically.

[B]

Yeah, she does Ariana Grande. You have to watch her. She doesn't even flinch. Like, you're like, that. She can't be a human. So here's their clip where you said.

[A]

Like, I was your favorite guest, you know, and all this really sweet stuff. And I know we just had some wings, but I thought that maybe we could just have a quick smooch to.

[B]

See if there's a spark.

[A]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Leela, get up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm shook by this. I'm feeling it. It's sexy. But, like, this is Travis and Taylor.

[B]

Coded, where they both been in interviews, being asked about the other. Actually, I don't know. Did anyone ever ask Taylor? But, like, Travis had been interviewed about her prior. Like, it's just like they both kind of knew that there was a crush. His crush. And then if they're both single, they eat a bunch of wings and have a spicy little kiss.

[A]

I'm into this, you know, I love him, and he's just like, he's bald. He's hot to me. He's fun. I just. I love it.

[B]

Okay, so that's the couple that we want to see while all these others are breaking up. Circle of life. Okay, so the Emmys.

[A]

So the Emmys were this past Sunday night. Congrats to all the winners.

[B]

Now, is that music? Oh, my God. I'm kidding.

[A]

He thought it was the Grammys.

[B]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. If you listened last week, I got a little twisted up.

[A]

I mean, there's a lot of award shows, and I was trying to remember, like, I was, like, so positive that Nikki hosted the Emmys. And it took me a while to be like, what did she do? The Golden Globes. But then, like, the Oscars or the Academy Awards? Like, that's the same thing.

[B]

Yeah, the Oscars are the Academy Awards.

[A]

Well, I mean, like, why is the.

[B]

Oscar is the statue itself?

[A]

Why is there two names?

[B]

It's so stupid.

[A]

Like, and it's just like, I'm always like, awards season. But, like, the. What'd you say? Nikki hosted the Golden Globes? The Golden Globes are in February. Like, why are the Emmys in September?

[B]

I don't care.

[A]

How do we decide? Like, when is what. Like, what is the fiscal year for television shows versus movies versus music? Like, what are we judging?

[B]

I know. And then sometimes an album or a TV show or a movie will win an award, and you're like, that was five years ago. That's how it feels, because it was at the start of the fiscal year for that award show. But we talked about the host and Nate Vargatsy, and we'll get to it. But, like, I like Nikki hosting the Golden Globes because those are movie actors, and I think they take themselves way more seriously. So I like her roasting them. Like, I actually wouldn't want Nikki hosting the Emmys because those are the coolest people. Or the Grammys. Like, I like her doing movie actors because they're the ones that take themselves so seriously. The Emmys are typically my fave in terms of the stuffy ones outside of the VMAs and shit like that, because it's TV and I watch more TV and typically it's been shows that I love, like Hacks and the Bear Just Sweep. And I love to see that. Which was not the case this year. It was the studio, Seth Rogen's show. And then Hacks did win. And the other one, the Pit one, a lot. Yeah, I didn't watch it. I had shows in San Diego, so I just kind of saw the clips.

[A]

And people had sort of mixed reviews about Nate Bargassi's performance. I always think he's funny. I think, you know, it was his first time hosting. What they did, though, was this interesting thing, if you got. Sure you guys have seen it, but they put basically a ticker clock on people's acceptance speeches. And he opened the show by saying that he was going to donate $100,000 to the boys and girls club. Thank you. And then for anybody whose acceptance speech goes over 45 seconds, $1,000 per second second was gonna come off of that. And then anybody that goes under $1,000 per second will go on top of that. And there was a ticker on screen for every single person. I mean, it was so wild to watch.

[B]

So again, like, I didn't watch it. Cause you watched it, you know, and only one of us needs to be authorized to speak on something. But that's why there's two of us. If we divide up the workload. But I didn't realize the ticker was on the screen. Could the person see it? Like just the viewer at home?

[A]

No. So the person could see it. And so like Hannah Einbender, who's the most iconic speech of the night.

[B]

Go Birds, fuck Ice free Palestine. Just mic drop.

[A]

Yes. And she got up there and she's the star of Hacks and we love that show and her. And as the ticker was running, she goes, I don't care, I'll pay it. And I was like, yes, go off. Like, I just. I loved it. So she was like, I don't wanna wrap up. I'll just pay for this, okay? And I was like, okay, bad bitch. And then dropped the greatest speech of.

[B]

The way she got that in. In those final moments, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I had shows in San Diego. I got off stage and like, my feed was Hannah Einbender. Go Birds, fuck Ice free Palestine. I was like, oh, my goodness. She. She did it all.

[A]

I thought there was like, really? There were some sweet speeches, People thanking their parents. The kid from adolescence one, he's 13, he gave a speech. It was adorable. I. I have a lot of conspiracy theories today. My conspiracy theory on this. And I don't know, it's unprecedented to tell all of these famous people who've worked really hard on a project with a giant cast and crew to like wrap that shit up in 45 seconds. I mean, you tell a 13 year old that, like, he. I mean, what a huge accomplishment that this child won. I mean, anybody to win an Emmy is a huge accomplishment. We've Never really seen this before. And I hate to be like this crazy conspiracy theorist, but it feels like the network was a little concerned about what all these people would say. Tensions are very, very high right now and continue to politically. And that they were just like, let's just clip them.

[B]

I think you might be right. That being said, they do get a little long winded. And I am not talking about when people use it to make a political statement. I love that shit. I'm like, go over, you know, do all the things I think of Chapel Roan talking about health care and, you know, just various ones we've seen over the past few years especially. And I love to see it, and I love them using that platform for that. I hate the self indulgent. Just. Just droning on Adrien Brody, you know, like, there's a difference.

[A]

And he gave us such. I mean, he threw gum at his wife.

[B]

Yeah. So I am curious what the conversations looked like. They did do it in a light, humorous manner. I liked Nate Bargazzi talking about. It was funny to me. He was like, these are the rules of the game that I made up. You know, I don't make the rules. Or, you know, it was of this game that we. Whatever he said was funny, and it makes the whole show run over. And I get it as someone who also performs and there's like curfews and timelines involved and no one hates when you're at a comedy show and people are blowing the light and you're there three hours because people just had to, you know, get their time. Yeah. Like, run over the clock. But I'm curious. I don't think you're wrong.

[A]

I just. It sort of reminded me almost the US Open a few weeks ago when Donald Trump wanted the network to bleep him. Getting booed and the free speech, though, and. But the network was like, well, this is what. This is North Korea and Kim Jong Un, like, might be. Yeah, we're headed towards it. But I don't think that, like, from that request to this is that far of a stretch.

[B]

Yeah. But it's interesting because the really outspoken individuals like Hannah Einbender are gonna see your 45 seconds and say the things she needs to say in three seconds flat. You know what I mean? Like, it would incite me more to be like, all right, I'll keep it short.

[A]

Brevity. Got it.

[B]

I'll keep it real short. Six words.

[A]

I wonder if she, like, heard that in the moment sitting in her seat, and she was like, I got this 45 seconds. I need one third of that.

[B]

So, yeah, that's pretty much your. Your Emmys recap. I mean, the fashion, of course. I liked Meg. Megyn Stalter and her jeans and a tee.

[A]

She had sunglasses on. She said, I didn't want anybody to.

[B]

Recognize me, but she had wore a bag. It said ceasefire. I mean, people made political statements. Also on the red carpet, there was some of that. I hate to say it, Sydney Sweeney did look great.

[A]

Not for me.

[B]

Really?

[A]

We get it. With your big ass titties. We get it. Like, I love red. I love red too. I love the red gown. I am. No one would ever be like, you know, I really want Raina's fashion advice. Like, I'm not a fashion commentator. But it wasn't for me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's just, I'm just. I'm also like Sydney Sweeney. Overload.

[B]

Totally. Yeah. No, I'm not a fan. I like the look. Okay.

[A]

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[A]

I have a miso intolerance.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I just. And in my. As I'm getting older, I mean, I can't really do ice cream in large quantities. Like I used to Be able to. I feel really bloated. And so I might have some sort of dairy intolerance. And Rain and I are going to get all this done. We're really excited. We have our appointments set up and so I can't wait for them to tell me that I am at 23 years old.

[A]

By all, you're shooting for 23? Okay, all right, I'll shoot for 21.

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[B]

Okay, so let's chat about Rage Bait. That was rage bait right there. Did you guys tense up at hearing it? Rage bait. It's a hot topic. It's a hot topic in all of media, advertising, politics, pop culture, all of it.

[A]

Yes. So much advertising recently seems to just be like, this thing that it's not even really like about the brand. It's just like, I can't believe this happened in this ad. And obviously, the primary example of that is the Sydney Sweeney American Eagle ads where she says, I have great jeans. And this spun into a whole controversy of, what did they really mean by this? And it almost didn't even matter what they were selling. American Eagle has not been on the tongues of this many people in the history of time. It wouldn't matter what they were selling. And it almost begs the question of, does it even matter what they're selling? They just. Did they make something just to make people feel crazy?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I think this is also something that's been happening as long as we can remember. And then sometimes we look back and we're like, was that just rage bait, or is that a sign of the times? I mean, you think of, like, Brooke Shields, Calvin Klein ads that feel, like, so inappropriate today. And just. I mean, Kim Kardashian is the top of the list. When you talk about this in the recent, like, Face Shaper, you know, people were furious. Like, what the fuck is this? We talked about it on the snack, and it sold out immediately. So it does work.

[A]

So the most recent thing actually happened today as we were recording it. And Mac Cosmetics posted on their Instagram a photo of Kris Jenner. I guess she was going to be in an ad for them. And clear across this photo, it says, for internal use only. Just over and over and over again. And right under it, Kris Jenner comments. Check your DMs right now. Who leaked this? Two question marks and.

[B]

Which feels so, like, obvious.

[A]

Yes. The headline says, Kris Jenner freaks out over leaked Mac campaign photos. She's about to take y' all out. It's like, this is so obvious to me that this was on purpose. Kris Jenner herself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is gonna publicly be like, someone get.

[B]

In touch with me right in the comments.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure she doesn't have a team of people working for her. 100 people working for her that are going to contact Mac Cosmetics for her. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, and to me, this is just feels like a little bit more of a stunt than, like, rage. Like, who's really going to get rage enraged about that? But I mean, the most recent examples are, like, Raina said, American Eagle, the Kim Kardashian face shapewear and Elf Beauty partnering with Matt Rife. People were upset about that as well. And it's just like, are there people sitting around knowing that this will incite rage and lead them to more exposure? Which is kind of. I mean, you hate to hear about, like, you're just like, oh, and then I'm buying into this and I'm, I'm part of the problem. And we're talking about it on this podcast. All the while they're like, laughing all the way to the bank.

[A]

It will not make me purchase that product.

[B]

Yeah, I don't feel like I fall into that camp. But we still talk about it like we're part of the discussion. And I was reading this article. This was in Glamour uk. From Kim Kardashian's face shapewear to Sydney Sweeney's jeans, controversy is everything. Rage bait now. And I just really like the quote it says, so what do we do? Focus on changing and challenging systems, not individuals. We can hold public figures and brands accountable, but we don't have to take the bait every time. Avoid engaging with troll accounts and bad faith actors whose only aim is to rile you up. Act with your wallet. Don't buy from brands that rely on rage bait marketing. Avoid attending concerts and refrain some supporting public figures who exploit culture war politics to gain attention. Don't vote for politicians who weaponize identity and outrage for views. Rage bait is powerful, but its influence relies on us playing along. And this will lead us into a discussion, a further discussion. Because I think about this a lot and I have unfollowed accounts, specifically political ones, that they are providing factual information, but the headlines are purposely inflammatory and can feel like clickbait and can feel misleading. And I have a huge problem with this. You know, like a lot of times you. You read the article and it is factual, but they really pulled something out of context to get the. The eyeballs. And this is on both sides?

[A]

No, this is on both sides. I find this a lot specifically with the Huffington Post and the Washington Post, two accounts that I follow. And I like To. I like the articles they put out, but I find their headlines to be specifically inflammatory, sometimes to a point where I'm like, whoa.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, I don't need to feel like that. And with this president and administration and Supreme Court need I go on.

[A]

You don't need it. You can stress out enough.

[B]

You don't need. But you don't need the clickbait is my point. Like, you can write every single headline in the style of the completely unbiased wire news like AP or Reuters or whatever, and it will still be horrifying, you know, for the most part. Like, you don't, you don't need it. And like, I'm just, Like, it bothers me. And it bothers me also from a progressive person's standpoint of like, these are the outlets that I stand behind their value system. But like, we don't have to do it like this. And it's not everybody. But I. There was one account where I was like, I actually, I can't follow this. I know what they're trying to do.

[A]

But I think that that's a lot of people's complaints about all the news. All news is that it's rage baiting on both sides, that the headlines and the clips are so inflammatory and it gets people so upset and it preys on people that are maybe not that educated and aren't gonna dig a little bit deeper for the actual information. And that is really dangerous. And it'll descend upon like one little part of a topic and explode it. And people are so mad about that.

[B]

I know. And a lot of times I will take the headline and read the article to dissect it and figure out how they got there. And I'm like, it's not false. There is certainly a side of the media that is just lies, that is just blatant false misinformation. It's not that. It's just the way it was structured to evoke a certain type of reaction. And it feels irresponsible to me and it couldn't be me. But this is with everything. This is with celebrity news as well. It's not just politics. I mean, I have a lot of problems with, with a lot of media outlets and the way that they write stuff. I mean, and Rain and I have done articles and we're not even on the scale of celebrity politicians. Everything that's really happening at that level. But like, we stuff is taken out of context for views.

[A]

I cannot believe how many times we've done an interview for an hour. And they will descend upon one tiny.

[B]

Little thing or the headline for the headline. So misleading.

[A]

What was that one? It said something like I don't want to call yells specifically but it said something like, you know, about me like loving being single or something. I don't remember how they framed it. It was sort of insulting.

[B]

And you know, this is. I don't want to come across like I'm on a high horse, but I don't want to do this. It doesn't feel authentic to me. And we could do it way more. We could do it with the way we title episodes and the what we pull for reels. Like I just sometimes I don't everyone to be misleading and I don't want to invite negative reactions just for engagement. And that's what it is. It all comes down to all press is good press. And we don't operate like that. And we always say this, maybe we would be more popular if we did. But it doesn't sit right with me to do that because we will go back and forth sometimes on an episode title or on this or on that. It's like, you know, it would be a little more click worthy but it doesn't feel accurate or like even something that the guest would want sometimes in some cases. So I just, I liked this post on Sharon says so who was like such a wonderful follow and it was quotes from Carlos Whitaker. She says, wisdom from my dear friend. And it's about rage being a drug. And it says there's a new drug people have not only become addicted to, but we've become junkies to. And it's rage. And the needle is the thing you're reading this on. So it is your device and you may have accidentally become addicted to rage. The thing I want you to do is step away from this device and see if the rage is still there. Anger can be there, sadness can be there, but rage should go away. And if you come back to this needle and you start scrolling and you start to feel the rage again, that is an extremely important indicator that what you are injecting into your body and into your heart and mind and soul is rage. And we were not created with the capacity to consume the amount of rage that we consume. And I appreciate the sentiment and I agree with it, but I regardless of the rage bait, regardless of what I'm seeing in my feed, I am enraged and I'm trying to figure it out, how to manage it. And this will lead us into our next conversation. But it's like this is how you have to Decide how to consume social media and the news for your own mental health. Cause we cannot be enraged all the time.

[A]

Yeah. And I think that you and I spent a. We're gonna talk a little bit about Charlie Kirk. And it would feel totally inauthentic to Ashley and I to never speak on this at all. And we're gonna try to be respectful. But I've had to really put my phone down a lot in the last week. I've had hard time being on the Internet and seeing so much rage and so much inflammation, and the Internet has just been a really, like, inflamed place right now in the world. And, you know, we want to speak about things because we know that you guys want to hear what we have to say, and we don't want everyone to shy away from that. And I do want to just sort of start this by saying, you know, what happened to him last week is horrible. And I don't want to live in a country where people are shot at work for expressing opinions, whether I believe in their opinions or not, which I do not. But I don't want to live in a country where you are shot for your opinions. And any young woman or child that loses their spouse or their parent, I mourn for them. And I feel like that's terrible. And I don't wish that upon anybody. But I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I agreed with his ideals and his beliefs. Cause I didn't.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, dozens of kids get shot at school every year. I don't. This is not the America I want to live in. I've been screaming this on my. Since you guys have known me, which feels like into the void often. Because nothing has changed. Like, yes, of course. Like, shot because of your beliefs or because you're just at school or you're at the grocery store, you're at a parade. Any of this. I mean, it goes without saying, that is not the America I want to live in. That's not anything I would ever celebrate. Rain. And I have been sitting here for. I mean, an hour, two hours, trying to. To decide how to speak about this. And it's been a struggle. I have been struggling with how to articulate the way I've been feeling nonstop around the clock since this happened and the response to it and what it has done to this country that was already so divided. And I still am not sure. You know, I think that I want to express my opinions. I want to express them passionately. And I want people to feel seen and heard and understood. And I want to be this voice that we always have been. But I also want to feel safe, and I also want to protect my mental health, and I also want to make sure I get it right as much as I can. And I think we will say what we have to say today, and maybe we will revisit some of these conversations. But I just want to be transparent with you guys that if you feel like we're not, I don't know, saying something you thought we would like, there's probably a reason behind it. I don't know. I mean, it's just. It's tough. And people are getting doxed and they're getting fired, and the Vice President is saying, if you don't appropriately mourn this, you should be fired from your job. Those are his words. And so there's that. And I don't know, this has been tough, and it's been on my mind constantly. This has felt like the darkest time since. I feel. I don't know, it's hard to say, like, we've had these really bouts of darkness. I mean, the inauguration with the fires and then the ice raids, and just. It goes up and down, and you'll feel like there's a little bit of relief, but, you know, terrible things are still happening right outside your door. And this has felt really dark. And I was watching Scott Galloway talk on a clip this morning. He was like, this feels different. This feels really ominous for the country, and I feel that as well. And I really try so hard not to be so doomsday and alarmist, but it feels very alarming and it feels different. And the response to it from the President and other of our political leaders has been pretty horrific in terms of furthering the divide, and just fully blamed the left before a suspect was even in custody, saying terrible things that aren't true and really just driving this wedge even deeper between the two sides of this country. Based on what?

[A]

I don't wanna further the divide. And, you know, I made all these notes about Charlie Kirk's content, and I'm not gonna. I don't have to speak on it. You can go to his account, cherry pick anything that you want.

[B]

I've seen and heard every take.

[A]

There is every take on the planet, but I think that what's sort of hard to digest is you have J.D. vance going on Charlie Kirk's former podcast and saying, you know, if you hear people in the world not appropriately mourning this, call their employers, dox them, do all these things to them. I think that some people just feel like, this is much ado about one person, but what about the school shooting that day in Colorado? What about Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband getting shot? And then you have. And killed. And you have Donald Trump on national television saying, I don't know who that is. And I didn't know anything about that. But. But why? Because she didn't support. She wasn't your constituency. And there's so many people in this country that have been terrorized and marginalized, are being politically victimized. And why aren't we also mourning them at this level?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, there are so many different aspects of this. And like Raina mentioned, Melissa Hortman, she was the Minnesota House Speaker. Her and her husband and their dog were shot in their home. And then the killer, who was very clearly politically motivated, they were Democrats, obviously, went and shot two more Democrats and they survived it. And he had a list of 10 plus more. And I also don't want to be in the business of. But what about in terms of what people choose to care about and amplify. I get enough of that in my DMs. I think we need to stop policing people in what they want to care about because terrible things happen every day. We don't have the capacity to take them all in. But it needs to be said, it does need to be said that if we want to talk about political violence, a House rep and her husband and their dog were just murdered in their home in June. And the President is claiming he didn't know about it, he didn't lower the flags for them. And this person, this media personality, is being treated like a war hero. And is that the goal is to enrage people even more and further the divide? Because that's how it feels. Yeah.

[A]

And I've seen a lot of people speak out and say stuff this week like, well, I've never spoken about politics before and I feel the need to. And I think so many of us value life and oppose violence. I think that that goes without saying that the average person feels like this, Ashley, and I feel like this. I think what happened this week is terrible. However, the outrage and compassion seems very selective towards who we are giving it towards. If the President of the United States didn't even know that this woman was shot and killed in her house, but this amount of outrage is given to one person. It's just. It's highly selective. And you must ask yourself why.

[B]

Yeah, it feels very ominous. And again, I was. Scott Calloway was talking about and Chris Murphy from Connecticut was speaking about that this is the moment that they've been waiting to completely demonize the left and like, really light the spark of this authoritarian state that we are on the brink of. I hate to sound like so dramatic, but that's how it feels. Like the hateful rhetoric and the threats and the threats against our freedom of speech. Who are these? The people that have always said they've advocated for it.

[A]

This is the freedom of speech, freedom of everything.

[B]

Yeah, right. Like this president and now the people who prop him up, like, have forever changed this country. You know, prior to this, it's like these, our leaders spoke with respect and their messaging during these dark times were about peace and unity, not about war and threatened. And it's really scary. And I hate that it's become normalized and that the people who are like, ah, peace and love and no violence are also the people that are like, encouraging the kidnapping and torturing of immigrants, making jokes about them dying at Alligator Alcatraz. Like, how can you call yourself a Christian and say you care about love and the kids with a straight face when that's on the other side of it? Yeah.

[A]

I think that your kindness has to extend to all victims on any side. And we can't appear to be cherry picking some victims that were more important than other victims. And Donald Trump said, I'm not misquoting this or out of context. He said, if I had to lower the flag for every person that died, the flag would never be up. And it's like, but you are doing it for this one person and it is sending the message that this person is more deserving of not only your respect, but even you don't know about, about this other stuff happening in your government.

[B]

Yeah. And you know, I tread lately on the selective outrage too. And that's the same as the. But what about because we are allowed to care about some things and not care about others, you know, we are allowed to care more about one of these things than this thing. And you know, that's what I'm saying. I don't like that when people jump down your throat about it. But the president and these lawmakers set the tone and it trickles down and that's what's creating so much hate and division.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't know, we wanted to address it. You guys know that we try to not shy away from stuff. There's just, there's a huge news cycle about this every single day. I think tensions are really high. But we do want to speak on it in as much of a respectful way as humanly possible.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's just I'm trying so hard. This stuff gets at me all the time. I mean, like, prior to this, like, the thing I'm on a loop is, like, I just can't believe so many people in this country call themselves Christians, and they're really advocating for so much hate and violence and the storming of the Capitol. All those people got pardoned. Some of them are child molesters. How can you know this information and still support this administration? And I wish people would think more deeply about it. I don't know. I wish. I don't know where all the brainwashing came in. And, you know, people were so vulnerable to really, like, this. This cult, like, following of someone who has created such a divide. And, you know, Charlie Kirk, he hated the word empathy. He said it was this woke thing. And that's the thing. I just want people to have more of, like, really when it comes to anything, like, as part of the bigger picture. When it comes to an immigrant that wants to come here for a better life, when it comes to vulnerable people needing health care, even though that might not be you, can we just try to have some empathy when it comes to kids getting shot at school? Can we all admit now that guns are a problem? Can we all get on board with this? Can we just try to have some empathy for each other, even if whatever we're talking about doesn't directly affect you? Now go off. You know, if you guys aren't satisfied with what we said about this, that's fine. You know, I think it's hard. It's hard to discuss this. There are a million thoughts swirling in my mind. It's on my mind constantly. I told Raina I feel like I'm living this double life where I'm doing shows and making people laugh, and I'm with my fiance, and I'm planning a wedding and a special, and we announced our shows. And it's like, all these fun things, and I don't feel like that on the inside. And I think a lot of people are struggling with that. And it's like, I don't wanna bury my head in the sand, of course, but I'm just kinda like, I'm trying to strike the balance and something we've talked about plenty.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know where the balance is sometimes, because no matter what you say, you are gonna insult people. I don't think that every person on the right is a brainwashed idiot. I certainly don't subscribe to that. I understand That a lot of people think I'm a brainwashed idiot, and that's fine. I'm part of a different news cycle than those people are a part of. And I think that people vote for what they think is gonna make their life better, easier, help them to save money, raise their kids. If this is what you voted for, you thought that's what was. I don't know. I can't hate every person that voted for this. I don't want to vilify all those people. It certainly don't. I have not seen anybody, and it's not come across my desk that anybody is celebrating this murder of this man. I'm sure it is out there. That's not what I've consumed.

[B]

If people are celebrating this or mocking this, I mean, there's always going to be that on any side of this. But there's a huge spectrum. There's far left, there's far right. There's people who will mock the death of someone on the right, someone on the left, I mean, and then there's the majority of us who reside in the middle. And so I'm sure that exists on the Internet, just like it probably existed on the Internet for Melissa Hortman or whoever. And it's just so. It's like you probably have someone listening to this, probably has examples to cite, but you would regardless, like, there is always going to be some of those bad apples, and that doesn't reflect the majority of people.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

We made it.

[A]

Yeah, guys. So shopping Saks makes it really like fun and easy to enhance your seasonal wardrobe. Obviously for the fall they have tons of brand and really trendy styles. But the thing that I've been shopping on there for is a dress for your wedding. I just feel like I see the same dresses on every, like influencer, girly, like at every single wedding. And I just, I want something like really so special and like elegant. And I have been shopping at Saks, I mean, since I have my bat mitzvah outfits from there.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I mean, I remember when like I was a kid, I was 13, my mom took me to buy my bat Mitzvah dress there and it was like such a treat. It's such like an Amazing shopping experience. Experience and fancy. I bought mitzvah, actually. But they. I mean, they really have everything. There is one particular dress that I am looking at. It's. I won't tell you. It's this, like, shoulder drape gown dress that I might wear to your wedding. And they have tons of stuff just for, like, day to day and for work, obviously. Purses all the way up to, like, really expensive brands, but stuff for day to day as well.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I have been on the hunt for the perfect wedding shoe. I have now done four unboxings. I have filmed every one just to be like, maybe it's the one. And then I just to throw it in the trash. Gosh. So maybe one day you guys will see it. But I ordered a pair from Saks, so we'll see if they make the cut. But I like the range too. Like, I'm even looking at shoes right now. So of course you have your Louboutins and then you have your shoots, shuts, shoots, shuts, shuts, shuts, shoots, shoots.

[A]

Those are boots.

[B]

We like S, C, H, U, T, Z for 100 bucks. 120 bucks for heels. For boots. Yes. We both have these boots we're obsessed with. So you really can see the range. I mean, you have Tory Barch to Dolce and Gabbana to Jimmy Choo and of course, obviously much more affordable styles as well. So they really do have it all.

[A]

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[B]

Okay, let's just run through a few quick headlines and we will send you guys on your way.

[A]

Okay. So last night, Coachella lineup was announced and Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, Carol G. Headlining.

[B]

Love it.

[A]

I love it. I love all three of them.

[B]

I hope Justin brings it. I won't be there. Swag two.

[A]

I wouldn't go to a music festival if it was free, but I just.

[B]

I hope he does. You know, I think he's been up and down with his live performances. Obviously, we've. He's been known to cancel dates, and I just hope he is healthy and brings it. I love swag. I love swag too. I love his old stuff. I'm a. I'm a fan and so I just. I hope that it's. It's great. You know, I think what a couple was it last year, year before, like, Frank Ocean had canceled one of the performances, and you Know, it was. People were super upset. Like, I just hope we don't. That something like that doesn't happen. You know, I hope he. He does it, and I hope he crushes it. And of course, Sabrina, like, we're stands. I'm obsessed. That's gonna be incredible.

[A]

I love Carol G. I'm obsessed.

[B]

And Carol G. Of course. And I love this range.

[A]

Attendance has really fallen off, they've said, in the last couple years. And so I. They really went with just big, big, big, big hitters. So that's what's happening. If you guys are interested. We didn't get to this last week because we had already recorded Taylor. Frankie Paul has been announced as the next Bachelorette. You really don't see people, like, jumping across. She's on Hulu on the third upcoming season of Mormon Wives, which I'm obsessed with that show. And then she's gonna go to abc, which Hulu is not. It's not a. A subsidiary of abc. It's a Disney company. So she's jumping to the Bachelor on abc. And this is a real pivot for the show. You. You never see somebody who is a celebrity like this.

[B]

Feel like you're downplaying it. This is insane.

[A]

It's insane.

[B]

It's totally insane. And this is what they need to do to bring the viewership back. And of course, people have mixed feelings, and we're just. We've done too much today. You know, this is.

[A]

We'll.

[B]

We'll keep talking about it. Rachel Lindsay had a great take, which I loved, if you guys want to check that out. But, I mean, she's a controversial character, but this is an unhinged decision by abc, and you'd love to see it.

[A]

About time. People are like, people are gonna go on there to get famous. It's like people have always only gone on there to get famous.

[B]

Baggage is out there for everyone to see. Like, they can't use it against her. I mean, people are gonna tune in. I am so sad for this. They haven't even started filming yet, and I'm just like, when's the premiere? When can we host a viewing party?

[A]

I mean, this is gonna be fascinating because you never have a lead on this show ever. In how many years? I don't know. It's been 78 years or something that people know anything about. So, like, she can't lie about her background and who she's dated and what she's about. Like, it's all out there, man.

[B]

Good for them.

[A]

It's crazy. I can't Wait to watch it. I'm obsessed. And we've obviously already reached out to Hulu to do an interview with her and.

[B]

Yeah. So hopefully you guys will get that on this show. We hope. And then just quickly, I mean, we said we were gonna take a week off from Taylor Swift, but she went.

[A]

To I'll wear Ashley down every week.

[B]

Taylor Swift. So I guess she was at the Eagles Chiefs game, which super bowl rematch. The Eagles embarrassed them. This fumble by Travis Kelce Reina. I was like, I think the engagement's off. Can you imagine? See that? His. That fumble I'm gonna put on the screen, by the way, because the Eagles made a real out of it and they set it to music and I can't stop watching it. I watched it in real time, too. But anyway, I was like, I don't think she's there because I think, you know, before Travis Kelce, she was an Eagles fan or family. She's from Pennsylvania. And her. Her dad, she always talked about him, like, watching the Eagles. Like, I just. Maybe she. Her being there would inflame it too much. People would boo her. They don't want to show her on the screen. Like, I was like, I don't think she's going to go to this one. And it turns out she was there.

[A]

So I was so shocked. I was like, she didn't go because every single game for the last two years, she walks through the tunnels of the stadium and you see her fit. And I was excited to see what dom she strung together this time. You know, I love her so much, but she can't dress. And I was so excited. And I love when they pan to her and she's with his parents and it's so cute. And this is the first. I was like, she must not be there because they didn't do the stadium walk. And lo and behold, she was behind this, like, $6,000 accordion. Bulletproof. They're so. They're saying accordion to walk across the stadium tunnel so nobody would see her.

[B]

Basically.

[A]

Accordion. I don't know what else to call it. I just.

[B]

It was like a rolling wall.

[A]

A rolling wall?

[B]

Yeah. Like, they. It was a thing on wheels. Like, she was behind it and they're staying. That's how they got her in with no one noticing. Like, they really hid her being at the game.

[A]

It was a real pivot, obviously, from other years. People were saying it's because she got a bad haircut. But then she was photographed later on at Patrick Mahomes birthday party. She was dressed and cute. People were Saying it was because she's pregnant. But again, photograph later in the evening with Patrick Mahomes and Brittany Mahomes. Not pregnant. Looking cute.

[B]

Yes. Again in the comments. Let us know your conspiracy theories on this. I mean, I just thought that, like, tensions are so high and like, Eagles fans think of her like a traitor, you know, I don't know, I just. Maybe she didn't want to deal with it.

[A]

I thought tensions were high in the country and I was like, celebrities don't feel safe. And you were like, tensions are high in the game.

[B]

I meant both. I meant both.

[A]

Just to be clear difference if they played at Eagles Stadium. Yeah, but they play the Chiefs stadium.

[B]

God say the link. Jesus fucking Christmas. That time you said Philadelphia, I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

One time on stage, People don't forget, you know, people don't forget.

[B]

My brother spit his drink out. Brandon was like, cheers to you, Philadelphia.

[A]

I was like, I wish somebody would have gotten that on film. You looking at me when I said it.

[B]

I was like, get off the stage. Get her off.

[A]

Get her out of here.

[B]

Get her out of here.

[A]

Get her out. So, I mean, this whole episode is just full of my conspiracy theories, but there are a lot of them, and I'm just. I'm not sure what's what. And the last thing, all of Yalls homework, please watch the Charlie Sheen doc on Netflix. It's brand new. I watched it last night. It's two episodes. It's about two hours of content. It's a wild ride. You're just like, how is this man alive? He. He comes from a really famous family. He went really hard on drugs. He was the highest paid TV actor that there ever was. It's a really interesting documentary, so we'll talk about it next week.

[B]

Yes. I have not seen it. Raina was telling me about it, and I was like, let's just give everyone an assignment so you guys can watch it and we'll. I'll discuss it together next week. And of course, Summer I turned pretty Finale was last night. I guess they're talking about a two parter. But regardless, as you guys hear this, it was last night, if not the first part of I don't know. So that happened and I guess we'll talk about it. I hate that. It's like I'm always like a little dated when we do the snack and somewhere I turn pretty. But you don't care because you don't watch it.

[A]

So you're our correspondent.

[B]

We'll see what happened there. So thank you guys for listening to this episode of the Snack. We know it was, you know, all over the place and various ways, but we appreciate you guys. If you're still here and you can find us atgirls gotta eat.com Monday tickets will go on sale for the holiday shows. So Monday, September 22nd you can get tickets to our holiday spectacular in New york and in LA you can go to girls gotta eat.com tickets will be available at 10am eastern time. Girlsgotaeat.com girls gotta eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I'm Ash has Rena is Reina Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube and we will see you Monday.

[A]

Have a great weekend guys.