The Snack: Celibate Celebs, Selling Sunset, and Starbucks Pandemonium

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat: The Snack — Celibate Celebs, Selling Sunset, and Starbucks Pandemonium

Podcast: Girls Gotta Eat
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg
Date: November 13, 2025
Episode: The Snack: Celibate Celebs, Selling Sunset, and Starbucks Pandemonium

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Episode Overview

This light, pop-culture-rich "Snack" episode mixes comedic stories about dating, friendship, and personal lives with fresh takes on the week's buzziest entertainment, celebrity, and political headlines. Ashley and Rayna dish on everything from wild happy hour policies and their own sleepover rules to celeb celibacy, Selling Sunset drama, and the Starbucks cup craze—plus a few memorable rants and honest reflections on what it’s like to navigate relationships, politics, and pop culture in 2025.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Drunken Happy Hours and Sleepover Etiquette (00:23–05:13)

• Jameson's Sports Bar "Two for One" Drinks

  • Ashley and Rayna recount a night out watching the Eagles game, with chicken tenders, fries, and endless two-for-one beers ("They bring you both of them at the same time; you can’t stagger them" – Ashley, 00:42).
  • Hilarious frustration at being forced to accept the second drink—even if you're not ready or drinking alone.
  • Mini-rant about strange alcohol laws from their college days in the South (South Carolina, Atlanta).

• Sleepover Rules

  • Rayna hosted fellow podcast guests and discussed how it’s different when friends are married to men—hinting she can only "pile in bed" with certain couples (03:26).
  • Comedic negotiation over which room guests get, with Rayna offering her plush king bedroom to pregnant friends ("I will displace someone in their home all day if it’s offered to me" – Ashley, 04:50).

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2. Celeb Celibacy: Who’s Not Having Sex and Why? (05:40–11:57)

The "Celibacy Report"

• Khloe Kardashian (06:34)

  • Publicly stated she hasn’t had sex since Tristan in 2021. "I'm mortified that it's even my truth... But once you get to a certain place, you think, no, this is so special. I feel so good." (Ashley, quoting Khloe, 07:12)
  • The hosts empathize: "If I was Khloe and went through that much emotional turmoil, I’d be all set on men" (Rayna, 07:12).

• Rachel Kirkconnell & Matt James (08:29)

  • Bachelor Nation's Rachel admitted she hadn’t had sex in years, despite being with Matt James. The hosts roast Matt ("He is so unfuckable to me, 100%." – Ashley, 09:20).
  • Discussion of shame and normalization around couples not having sex, especially in the public eye.

• Julia Fox (10:43)

  • "I just can't find anybody to fuck and I don't want to. Until men present themselves as fuckable, I will just not have sex.” (Rayna summarizing Julia, 10:59)
  • Digression on Julia Fox’s memoir and sex work past—Ashley: “She was a dominatrix. She’s had a history in the sex industry. Right. We gotta read that memoir.” (11:27)

• Reflections on Sex in Long-Term Relationships

  • “I think some people are like, I’m not missing it. If I want to have an orgasm, I can have an orgasm!” (Ashley, 08:17)
  • Theme: Normalizing sexless phases in relationships, letting go of shame or pressure.

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3. Political Recap: Election Results and Government Shutdown (12:06–20:47)

Blue Waves & Boos

• 2025 Election Day Recap

  • Big wins for Democrats, first female governors in VA and NJ, and a “real blue wave” as described by Ashley (13:03).
  • Stories of voter confusion and sympathy for people in states without elections (Ashley & Rayna, 14:17–14:40).

• Government Shutdown

  • The government is still shuttered, with 8 Democrat senators caving on a key deal, frustrating listeners and the hosts ("Democrats need to hold the line!" – Ashley, 15:31).

• Personal Impact

  • Friends unable to work, comedians stuck due to airline halts (“Every single day I talk to a different person that is suffering so badly in ways I didn’t even think about” – Rayna, 16:10).

• Donald Trump Booed at NFL Game

  • "He was booed so hard at the game… it was a booing on a level I've never heard.” (Rayna, 17:25)
  • “This was middle fingers in the air. Like, I could not stop watching it and masturbating to it.” (Ashley, 18:02)
  • Jokes about Trump reading the oath wrong (“I. State your name.”) and being deeply unpopular.

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4. Quick Fire: Menopause, ChatGPT Antics, and Listener Love (20:47–26:39)

• Rayna's ad read for perimenopause care devolves into laughter about politicians reading ad scripts.
• Hilarious segment on using ChatGPT to write self-affirming fan mail ("Can you write me an email telling me how pretty and funny and special I am? Tell me you're proud of me." – Ashley, 23:07)
• Reminiscing on bizarre or risqué listener emails.

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5. Reality TV: Selling Sunset Season 9 Deep-Dive (30:36–47:55)

They Still Gotta Eat

• Season 9 Praise and Critique

  • Ashley: “You’ll never make me hate this show. I've watched every episode. It’s my favorite reality show.” (30:44)
  • Rayna enjoyed the more "genuine" storylines, especially the episodes covering wildfires (31:20–31:41).

• Emma’s MAGA Boyfriend Drama

  • Emma’s boyfriend described as "a 27-year-old spoiled rich kid who has no culture" (Ashley, 32:40), MAGA-leaning, allegedly controlling and problematic.
  • Ongoing theme: Frustration when friends date questionable people, especially when repeatedly seeking (and then ignoring) advice ("At some point I'm allowed to throw my hands up" – Rayna, 36:20).

• Chrishell vs. Nicole

  • Nicole's jaw-dropping comments about Chrishell’s parents at the reunion: "I was like, surely this person is not making a comment to a woman who’s lost both her parents!" (Rayna, 39:13)
  • Hosts agree Nicole is the most unlikable villain in the show's history.

• Chelsea and Flowergate

  • Chelsea accused of sending flowers for camera time after Mary’s house was robbed. They debate whether flowers or texts are the "right" move for estranged friends (Ashley, 44:54).

• Cast Departures & Newcomers

  • Chrishell and possibly Chelsea are out. Discussion of how producers manipulate new cast members into stirring drama.

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6. TV & Pop Culture Round-Up

Kim Kardashian’s All's Fair & The Jenner Birthday Ban (48:07–54:59)

• All’s Fair (Kim K’s Lawyer Drama)

  • “It looks like 19 Paris filters were put on top of every scene!” (Rayna, 48:50)
  • Described as “cheesy, campy, and widely hated by critics” (Rayna, 50:33). Kim failed the bar exam again, sparking jokes.

• Kris Jenner’s 70th & The Royal Photo-Gate

  • Kim and Kris deleted Meghan Markle & Prince Harry from party pics—hosts obsessed with why ("This will keep me up at night. I need answers." – Ashley, 54:05).
  • Speculation about political motivations or “ick” factor.

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7. Starbucks Cup Pandemonium (55:21–58:44)

• Limited Edition Bear Cup Craze

  • People fought in lines and listed cups for $500 resale.
  • Walmart & Aldi trolled with their own knockoff bear drinkware ("You can just go to the grocery store and buy honey bears and empty them out" – Rayna, 57:08).

• Hosts’ Cup Preferences

  • Rayna loves whimsical cups: "I would be walking around my house every morning drinking out of it." (55:54)
  • Ashley: “If someone gifted me this, it would be in the Goodwill pile immediately.” (55:58)

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8. Zendaya vs. Sydney Sweeney & Sydney’s Rocky Reputation (58:44–63:52)

• Euphoria Press Tour Drama

  • Rumor: Zendaya refuses joint press with Sydney Sweeney for political reasons ("I don’t hate this level of petty." – Rayna, 58:54).

• Sydney Sweeney

  • Often a topic—recent movie flop, “one of the worst openings in box office history” (Ashley, 61:01).
  • Hosts explore why her popularity is waning and reject the idea it’s female jealousy ("Women don’t hate Sydney Sweeney because we’re jealous that she’s hot." – Ashley, 60:33).
  • Areola appreciation: “She’s really a trailblazer in the areola world.” (Ashley, 63:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump Booed at NFL Game:
  “He was booed so hard at the game… it was a booing on a level I’ve never heard.” — Rayna (17:25)
  “I could not stop watching it and masturbating to it.” — Ashley (18:02)

• On Relationships/Sex:
  “I think some people are like, I’m not missing it. If I want to have an orgasm, I can have an orgasm!” — Ashley (08:17)

• On Emma’s Boyfriend (Selling Sunset):
  “He didn’t know where Boston was on a map… You are 27. He just repulsed me in every way.” — Ashley (33:04)

• On Reality TV Villains:
  “Nicole… is the most unlikable character that’s ever been on that show in nine seasons. And that’s saying a lot.” — Ashley (39:20)

• On Sydney Sweeney’s Fame:
  “She’s really a trailblazer in the areola world.” — Ashley (63:34)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bar Tales & Sleepover Etiquette: 00:23–05:13
• Celeb Celibacy Deep-Dive: 05:40–11:57
• Political Wins & Government Shutdown: 12:06–20:47
• ChatGPT & Listener Stories: 21:19–26:39
• Selling Sunset Season 9 Discussion: 30:36–47:55
• Kim Kardashian's All’s Fair & Birthday Drama: 48:07–54:59
• Starbucks Cup Pandemonium: 55:21–58:44
• Zendaya, Sydney Sweeney & Celebrity Gossip: 58:44–63:52

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quick-witted blend of reality TV dissecting, honest friendship talk, and punchy riffs on the intersection of politics and pop culture. Ashley and Rayna’s dynamic keeps it fast, funny, and just the right amount of petty, making The Snack essential for anyone who wants to keep up with what everyone’s texting about (without braving endless group chats themselves).

Transcript

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This week on the Snack, celebrities who aren't having sex. Donald Trump getting booed. Starbucks barista cup. And selling Sunset Season 9.

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This is a Dear Media production.

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Enjoy.

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Hi, guys.

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Hi, guys.

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Welcome back to the snack.

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Here we are.

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Our tummies are a little up.

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So we watched the Eagles game last night. Go birds 7 and 2. And we went to this sports bar, which we love, Jameson. But we just went all in on, like, chicken tenders, fries, a pretzel. I was drinking so many sauces, so much beer. Okay, Raina, are they always two for one beers, or am I just lucky to always be there?

[B]

Weeknights, I think they're two for one beers. And they bring you both of them at the same time.

[A]

You can't stagger them. Like, you can't get them at different times. And it's two for one every drink, right? You guys were getting vodkas. Two for one, two for one.

[B]

Vodkas, tequilas. I do get it. They bring it at the same time. Cause they're like, I'm not taking extra steps to bring in your free drink. I do get it. But it is like a bucket of beer. And you're like, by the time I get through this bucket, the other bucket is warm.

[A]

Well, so I guess the way to do it is one person orders for two. So if you want to drink the same thing. But I just, like, I'm never there when it's not two for one. And I feel like I've been there at different times. To me, it feels illegal.

[B]

Just Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I don't think they do it. But the weekdays, they will fuck you up, right?

[A]

But I am like, this was my dream in college. Like, I just want to go back to my college self and be there. Two for one.

[B]

It would never have crossed my mind in college or my 20s. I can't finish this quick enough for it for it to reach a warm temperature level.

[A]

Can I tell you, I've been there quite, like, quite a few times. And every time I ask, can I just get the next beer when I'm ready for it? And they say, no. Like, I can't seem to. Like, you have to bring me two big gulps.

[B]

Oh, they also don't ask, do you know this? So I went with my. I went with sexy with a hot neighbor a couple weeks ago, and he wasn't drinking. And so I ordered a beer, and they brought two beers over, and I was like, oh, I didn't order two beers. And she's like, you get a second for free anyways.

[A]

That's what feels illegal.

[B]

I didn't even ask for a second one.

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That's what feels illegal. They're like, oh, you have to drink it.

[B]

You have to have it.

[A]

Did you drive here? Too bad. Here's your second giant cup of alcohol. Like, I think it's. I went to college and then went to Atlanta. And in both places, the south is weird with alcohol rules and stuff. Like, the whole time I was in college, I think I've told you this, it was all airplane bottles, mini bottles behind the bar. There was no free pour.

[B]

They've since changed it open like nips for every drink.

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For every drink. Real. That's crazy climate friendly stuff in South Carolina.

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Single use liquor bottles.

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But so no free, no out big. It was craz. Behind every single bar in Clemson was rows of mini bottles. And then. But there were still crazy happy hour specials. And we would get fucked up, whatever. And it was cheap. It was a college town. And then when I moved to Atlanta, there was like, happy hour rules because it encourages binge drinking. And so there was weird happy hour. Like, I've just been around these rules where I'm like, there are rules to curb people's drinking. And. Not at Jameson's.

[B]

Not at Jameson's. They're like, you're going to get both of these, even if you don't want it. When she brought me that second beer, I was like, I wasn't planning on drinking a second beer. She was like, you have to. It just comes with it.

[A]

That was so funny.

[B]

And then I went home. So we had, we had Taylor Strecker and her wife Taylor Donahue on the show yesterday, which will come out next week. But I went home with them. They stayed at my place last night.

[A]

Two weeks.

[B]

But yeah, so it'll come out in two weeks. They stayed at my place last night. And, like, we just sat in bed together, the three of us. And it is so much better than having a sleepover with your, like, friend that's dating like a. That's married to a male partner. Cause I could never, like, sit in bed with them.

[A]

Is this an attack? You're like, by the way, don't ever come over with him.

[B]

Don't have a sleepover with me with him.

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I have a big question, and I'm just gonna find this out for the first time on air. Did they sleep in your bed?

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No. And I insisted that they do because Taylor Donahue's pregnant. And I was like, there's two of you. It was actually three of you. You should have the king Size bed. They refused.

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I told him to take your room.

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I told them, when you get that.

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Opportunity to upgrade Raina Greenberg's bedroom, you guys is the best hotel room in town. It is so nice and fancy and it has such a great vibe. It's so gorgeous. And so when you offered them your bedroom, I was like, take it. Raina wants to be in her guest room. She likes to be in there sometimes Do. She likes to have a little staycation in her own home.

[B]

I've been flying economy lately. Okay. And they got an upgrade from Comfort plus to Delta 1, and they stayed in Comfort Plus. I don't get it.

[A]

Taylor Donahue is six feet tall, eight months pregnant. Take the king bed.

[B]

Says, didn't want to do it. They're like, we don't want. We don't want to misplace you. I was like, I don't. I sleep on. I can sleep on the bench at the foot of the bed, and I've had plenty of room.

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I will displace someone in their home all day if it's offered to me.

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Yeah.

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Meghan in the Hamptons. We were in her bedroom. She was like, I insist. I was like, if you insist.

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Also, if I was one week pregnant, I'm going to take advantage. I'll take your seat. I'll take your seat. I'll jump you in line. I'll definitely take your bed.

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Like, I would never think I was entitled to it, but if you offer.

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I know. I'm insulted.

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Yeah, you should be. Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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We'll thank our partners. We'll jump right into it. Thanks to hers. Get a personalized perimenopause treatment plan at.

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For hers.com gigi and thank you to Saks Fifth Avenue. Head to Saks Fifth Avenue or Saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style. And thank you to Addie. Learn [e-mail] okay, so we're kicking this off. This is a report. You've had this in the works for. For a week at least. I saw it on the outline last week. I was like, this is good. So just fill us in.

[B]

We have a celibacy report for you guys, and we've actually talked about doing the whole episode on this. So we're going to just tell you everything. Celibate right now, and then maybe we'll talk about it later.

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Let us know if you're one of them in the comments. I'm just.

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I'm so. I feel like I did somebody's podcast the other day and he asked me, like, how many. He was like, do you think there's couples that, like, really don't have sex? And I was like, I think it would blow your mind. How many couples don't have sex?

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Yes. And this. Let's just call back to our episode about how often are couples having sex, which was a solo that we did a month or two ago. At this point, I don't know. I feel like July was yesterday, so I have no idea when it was. The way the second half the year has flown by, but I think a lot of couples are. Are not having sex, and I. I don't know that all of them think it's a problem.

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I agree. I was on Jason Tari anyway. It will come out. He said, like.

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And I'm not saying it is either.

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I think it's probably pretty common that it goes for months, if not years. And I think some people are like, I don't care.

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I don't care.

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Literally, don't care. Okay. So multiple celebrities have come out and basically said that they are not having sex. So Khloe Kardashian said that Since Tristan in 2021, she has not had sex.

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Like, not fucked anybody.

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Not fucked anybody. And I. She says she's very happy.

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She's like, I believe it.

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I really believe it. She's like, I got my two kids. I have the biggest feeling known to man. I just don't need, like, a man in my life. Also, if I was Khloe Kardashian and I had had that much emotional turmoil with men in my life, the amount of, like, cheating and drug issues she's had to deal with, and I think I would be all set on men.

[A]

So what she says. I'm mortified that it's even my truth. This December will be four years, she said in an interview with Elle. I get a little embarrassed. I'm like, this is so pathetic. But once you get to a certain place, you think, no, this is so special. I feel so good. It's so easy to hook up with other people and distract yourself. When I was going through my breakup, it would have been so easy to deflect and hook up with someone else. I mean, I don't know. Like, this is the thing. I. I've been thinking about this a lot too. Even just being in a relationship where my. Our sex life has changed. It's been years. We live together. We're married now, and I'm not as, like, horny as I was the early days. This is not a hot take. This is what happens in long term relationships? I guess some people, again, stay that horny forever. But I think some people are like, I'm not missing it. And if I want to have an orgasm, I can have an orgasm. I think sometimes maybe you just want someone to lay on top of you, then you can easily do that. I don't think people are feeling such a void if they're celibate. I truly, I'm not calling their bluff on when they're saying, I'm happy. Truly, 100%.

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What I miss is like feeling like I have a true partner, intimacy, teammate in life. And yeah, I'd love to have sex every single day, but the thing that I miss is having just day to day intimacy with somebody.

[A]

Yeah, right. Next up.

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This actually blew my. The Khloe Kardashian thing was not that shocking to me. I actually just been through so much, just writing off mad and being like, I'm all set. But Rachel Kirkconnell said that she also has not had sex in years, despite being with Matt James.

[A]

Well, I wouldn't want to fuck Matt James. Dear Father God. And so you guys, people listening. You probably don't know who these are. Some people, some of you won't. They were a bachelor.

[B]

You really got two digs in on Matt James. That was great.

[A]

Listen, you probably don't know Matt James, but if you do, you wouldn't want to fuck him. I mean, I always thought Matt James, these are Bachelor Nation people. And they had a public breakup and God was involved in all the stuff and the breakup post. But I thought he was so hot. Obviously he's gorgeous. And then especially post breakup, and I started to just be curious about his content. And I'm just. He's such an ick to me.

[B]

I can't even watch his content.

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It's just for me, he is so unfuckable to me, 100%.

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I mean, I don't blame her for being like, I'm all set. I got to watch you do cheese pools with this sandwich. And I got to film it.

[A]

Well, when they were breaking up, I was being served compilations of the way he treated her too.

[B]

Just how rude he was.

[A]

Yeah, just. And like pushed her in the pool once. Like, little stuff that you're like, I don't want, like, let that love never find me. So that doesn't make you want to fuck somebody either. But then they probably just should have broken up, which they did.

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I mean, the way he broke up with her, if you guys are not familiar, she was on a plane on the way back, right from a trip they'd taken to London or something. And he posted on Instagram that he had broken up with her.

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Surprise.

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I just. I think that that caliber of person. I don't think that that was. I think that that was shocking to her, but I think that is the caliber of human being that he is. And so to your point, she was with somebody that I wouldn't want to sleep with.

[A]

But I think that's interesting to come out and cause a lot of people feel shame around that. Like, I wasn't having sex in my relationship, even if you broke it up. So I like that she came out and said that. I think it's just. This is why we wanted to do this episode that we did is to normalize the amount of sex, or lack of that people are having in relationships. Cause people feel so much shame around it.

[B]

I think that, like, if I really ran the T, had a lot of friends over the years that have broken up with a partner that I thought they had a pretty solid relationship. And they will tell you after the fact, like, we haven't had sex in six months.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We maybe have sex once a month.

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Totally.

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And then finally, to round this out, this was a few weeks ago. So this was in October. But Julia Fox was giving an interview, and she also says that she. She doesn't identify as celibate, but she says, I just can't find anybody to fuck and I don't want to. And until men present themselves as fuckable, I will just not have sex.

[A]

I wonder how she likes to be fucked, though. Like, you fucked Kanye. Like, you have. Maybe you have a different type of bar.

[B]

I do forget about Kanye sometimes.

[A]

I know. Like, I just want to know what Julia Fox is looking for. She used to be a sex worker. No, she used to be a escort or stripper.

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I cannot tell you. And her memoir is, like, one of the number one memoirs. And I, like, do want to get it, and I don't.

[A]

She was a dominatrix. She's had. She has had. I don't want to misspeak on her. I'm a fan. She has had a history in a sex industry. Right. We gotta read that memoir. I wanted to read it even. You know, I got all the time in the world. I'll read that memoir. We wanted. We've talked about having her on.

[B]

This is your year to read.

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This is my reading year. I'm gonna be a Pizza Hut with my free personal fan pizza.

[B]

You're gonna be a fashion influencer and a travel Influencer. And you're gonna read.

[A]

Shot my links.

[B]

I have to go to work next year.

[A]

Yeah, that's the celibacy report.

[B]

So we divided up. There was two reports, actually, we divided up the reports. I took this one, understandably, and Ashley is going to take the next one, also understandably.

[A]

I'm just going to do a little political report. So last week on election Day was a great day. Democrats swept these elections. There were a lot of historic things that happened and it gave people, including myself, a lot of hope.

[B]

I was in New York City for Zoran Mamdani for the, for the election results.

[A]

And it was a big day in New York. Yeah, vibes are high. Zoran Mamdani winning that election is shocking in the best way. This is a young guy who seemingly came out of nowhere. I mean, clearly he's not a career politician. He's too young to be. He's this Democratic socialist. He's a Muslim, like, and he just mopped the floor with Cuomo and the young people came out to vote. And so the dichotomy of the President and someone like him winning an election is like, it's just, it's so stark. It's like hard to even comprehend this is happening in the same country.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

So there was him, of course. Big day for women winning. Abigail Spanberger is the first female governor of Virginia. And Mikey Sherrill is the first Democratic woman elected as governor of New Jersey. And they were roommates on Capitol Hill six years ago. Did you not see this? They were together. So six years ago they were roommates and freshmen members of Congress, part of a record breaking wave of women who helped Democrats win back the US House at that time. And just like Democrats flipped Morgan county in Georgia, almost a 50 point swing from 2024. Prop 50 in California won, which was fun to go vote for. That took two seconds. Virginia Dems flipped the governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, whatever. There's just tons that happened. It was all blue. It was like a real blue wave. In states that were. There were elections. So not every state had an election. It's not like it's not midterms and it's not presidential. And I saw this thing, okay, but so people, a lot of people went out in Kentucky to vote and had to be told there's no election. And I saw this and a lot of people in the comments were like, those idiots from Kentucky.

[B]

I'm like, I don't think, I think.

[A]

A lot of people don't understand when the. If there's an election Every year.

[B]

You can't tell me to go vote for Prop 50. I didn't know you had to tell me to go down the street, do.

[A]

It in defense of Kentuckians. Like, I was reading the comments and it's like, not everyone knows. I didn't know if it's not every. If it's on a two year, four year.

[B]

I also, I was in New York City and did not know the election was that day. I did not. I was like, I think it's this week.

[A]

So just a lot of great things. Pennsylvania. A lot in Pennsylvania and in Georgia, which are. I mean, can be. Pennsylvania is always a swing state, whatever Georgia. But the. Anyways, a lot of good stuff happened. And so it really felt like a. And clearly a response to the president and the administration that this is what people are voting for. And as it stands now, which it could definitely change. We're recording Tuesday, obviously this release is Thursday. The government is shut down is like in limbo because eight Democrat senators have basically voted to reach an end to it and essentially caved on this deal. That does not include the health care provision. That doesn't help anybody with the main issue why the government shut down with health. Is health care costs rising in the first place. And people are pissed. People are like, Democrats need to hold the line. You know, like, of course everybody wants the government to open back up and people to get paid and people to get their jobs back and for air travel to get back to normal. But, like, if the whole thing was to make this statement and keep people's healthcare costs affordable, why are you caving? And I think their point, which I agree with the previous with that statement, but their point is like, but it's. Then it'll never open back up because Donald Trump is not going to the. The him. Donald Trump and the Republicans are like, people can suffer as long as they. We don't care. I guess Trump certainly, I think obviously people are up for reelection, care about the suffering of the American people. But the person at the top, he'll keep it shut down forever. He. The point is the suffering.

[B]

My feeling was that this could go on forever. Like, I don't know why would ever end like this. This will end in 2026. It might end in 2028. We get him out of there. Like, this will go on until the end of time. And every single day I talk to a different person that is suffering so badly in ways that I didn't even think about it. I mean, somebody that we're friends with is a computer Programmer employed by the government, and both him and his mom don't have an income right now. Everybody we know, this is reaching into their pockets. And all these comedians that we know for New York Comedy Week couldn't get to New York to make people happy and tell jokes because the airlines are shut down. Like, it's just, well, horrifying.

[A]

It is horrifying. And of course, I think there are some, obviously Republicans in Congress who, if nothing else, want to be reelected. And they realize that people fucking hate this. And, like, I cannot believe the President is pushing back on SNAP benefits. He's literally like, I want you to go hungry. I mean, how Christian of him.

[B]

So I think, gotta build that ballroom.

[A]

It's just, I can't believe what's happening. So as it stands now, the vote is going to the House, and this will probably be dated by this time this airs. But it just goes to show how unpopular all this is, clearly. And why. Trump was booed relentlessly at the Washington Commanders game, which was my porn.

[B]

Can I just tell you? Like, articles started coming out that he was booed so hard at the game. And I saw a couple of articles said, like, cheers and boos. And I was like, who did he contact to get the word cheers put in that. Because it was a booing on a level I've never heard.

[A]

Say your name.

[B]

I mean, you're in Washington, D.C. everybody is employed by the government, so no one is getting money.

[A]

They hate him there.

[B]

Hate him.

[A]

So this is the first sitting president at a regular season game since 1978. So obviously he went to the super bowl sometimes, actually, I don't know, Steelers game.

[B]

Oh, he was not the president yet.

[A]

Yeah, and. And regular season, too. So excluding playoffs, super bowl, whatever. So it is weird he was there, if that's a kind of sort of unprecedented thing. I mean, since it's the 70s and it was, I think when the super bowl, there was a mix of cheers and boos. I'll give him that. This was middle fingers in the air, like, I could not stop watching it and masturbating to it.

[B]

I mean, find me a city that's more affected by the government shutdown to show your face.

[A]

And I couldn't believe it. And I was like, go to Philly next, please. God, send him to a northeast city every Sunday or Monday. Like, I was like, Philly would do the same.

[B]

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And Philly fans are terrifying.

[A]

I will say, though, did you see how he was like, I then. State your name.

[B]

He said that? Yes. But here's the thing.

[A]

It wasn't Raina. No, but here's the thing. It wasn't a mistake. That's how you're supposed to read the oath. He would have done it wrong either way. Like, he can barely read. But I. I was sitting there stunned. Like, obviously, I was on a high from booze, and I was like, this is my favorite movie. And then he says, I. And then. State your name. He read that. But that is how you're technically supposed to read the oath. But it. Because you're. But also, why are you reading the oath? Like, you're. He's not giving the oath. He's telling you to give the oath. But were people giving the oath at the commander's game? No. No. Their middle fingers were in the air, so he looked even stupider. But in his defense. I just want to get my facts straight.

[B]

Wait, it's just like. It's like when people on a teleprompter. Wait. One time. What did you say? We were on stage, and I had written something in the outline. And you read it out loud. Like, Ashley starts.

[A]

I think I said, like, Yeah, I think I said Ashley Reeds. But I don't remember if I was, like, doing a bit. And then I just committed. And the whole rest of the show, I said, raina reads. But he's, like, famous for fucking up that anyway. Like, he can barely read, so I just loved watching that. I mean, he. He's really hated. And I think some people who. What, voted for him are finally waking up. I mean, shit is so dark. And so that's why I think, also people are upset that we really felt like we had this momentum coming out of the elections, and now some of these Democrats are going to cave and, like, oh, it was Democrats all along. I don't know. There's just. There's a lot of discourse about it, and we'll see what happens.

[B]

Yeah. And, you know, obviously, we know we have a lot of listeners that are affected by this, and Ashley and I, like, our heart goes out to you, and it makes us sick, and it's a really horrible thing, and we're just.

[A]

We're sorry. Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Let's talk about menopause.

[A]

In an.

[B]

In an ad or in general, actually, the government. Wait, didn't today. Didn't our remove the black box warning on menopause medication? He just took it off. He was like, we don't do that anymore. What is it today?

[A]

Just say that? Like, I saw those clips, and one of the top comments that made me laugh was someone Just saying. I can't believe that's his voice. I was like, exactly. My takeaway too. Like, yes, the content of what he's saying. But, like, how does a person have a voice like that?

[B]

Can I ask you a question?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I asked chatgpt and it acted like I was a problem. I. Chatgpt, why is his voice like that?

[A]

He does have something.

[B]

Listen, I asked Chachi Beat. I just wrote, why is RFK's voice like that? And it wrote back, please explain what you mean. And I was like, what a fail. What do you mean, what do I mean? And I was like, why does it sound like that? I'm not trying to, like, be an. I was genuine.

[A]

Yeah. Was it the brain worm?

[B]

His mom had Tylenol when she was pregnant. Feels so stupid. They were like, what, bitch?

[A]

What? What they said to my husband the other day. He was trying to do something with them. He was trying to work. He was working. He was collaborating with them, trying to figure something out. And they wrote, this is getting ridiculous. And I thought they were saying, like, to him, like, you're being ridiculous and this needs to stop. But they meant, like, they couldn't figure something out. He. They were like, this is getting ridiculous. Like, you feel me, bro? But I. I read it. I. He goes, look what they just said to me. And I was like, that is so mean. Like, that's crazy.

[B]

For talks to him.

[A]

For them to be like, hey, my guy, this is getting ridiculous.

[B]

Like, talking to, like, a Boston person. It does learn how you speak. I asked it to write me an email in the tone of a girl's gotta eat listener the other day, a millennial female. And it was like, hey, girls, longtime listener, first time writer. And I was like, this is so funny.

[A]

Raina's writing herself emails. I'm like, dear chatgpt, you send me.

[B]

A fan mail, write this in the tone of my mom, and make it sound like she loves me.

[A]

I'm just feeling a little down. Oh, my gosh. That is really funny. Can you write me an email telling me how pretty and funny special I.

[B]

Am, Tell me you're proud of me.

[A]

And then send it yourself to this email address and really try to make it seem real. You can wait a couple days, forget this conversation happened. Oh, my God, I'm dying. And the rain is like, oh, my God, you were gonna die at this email I got. It is so sweet. It doesn't mention you at all.

[B]

This is how I get a raise. I just start sending the podcast emails about me, and I'M like, Ashley, I am. I should make 60 of the income.

[A]

We have gotten emails that obviously, like, you know, Ashley's the worst, but we love you, Reyna, and vice versa. But the best one we ever got was a love letter to me that was still sent to our work shared email and said, sorry, Raina, this isn't for you. And then went on to profess his love.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

What he wanted to do to me sexually, that was something else. Not for Reina's eyes. Meanwhile, Raina read the whole thing. I was like, I'm mortified. I don't even know this person. And this is her husband.

[B]

That's how she met her husband.

[A]

And now we're married. It's not that far off from exactly what happened.

[B]

He didn't write the email. Someone else wrote it.

[A]

So true. This is getting ridiculous. That's.

[B]

This is insane.

[A]

Okay, tell us about perimenopause.

[B]

How am I even going to do this?

[A]

I'm having a hot flash, so I could use it.

[B]

It's perimenopause.

[A]

You're experiencing hot flashes from laughing too hard.

[B]

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[A]

Imagine RFK Jr reading that. Like, literally, I can't even imagine it.

[B]

Donald Trump would be like, call to action. Make sure you hit these points.

[A]

Read verbatim.

[B]

If it's highlighted in yellow, you have to read it.

[A]

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[B]

We got there.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Selling Sunset Season 9 has nine has wrapped the reunion. Everything is out. And you know, I was like, out on the show for like a while. I loved this season.

[A]

You'll never make me hate this show. I've been locked in for nine seasons. I can't believe it's been that many. I don't what's another show that I've watched that many seasons? Like, you have examples of, like, vanderpump, things like that. But I. Nine seasons. I've watched every episode of the show. It's my favorite reality show.

[B]

I think Love is Blind.

[A]

Love is Blind.

[B]

But not this night. That's a different cast every season.

[A]

Right? But these are the two. These are my two favorite reality shows. Love is Blind and Selling Sunset. And I just, I start. I even. I dabbled in selling OC and I just gave it up. Like, I am just locked in for life on selling Sunset. I'll watch it. But I didn't like the Love season this season.

[B]

It just felt, I will say, like real storylines, like, I don't want to say like real drama, but like stuff that's actually going on in people's lives. Themes that really made a lot of sense to me. They cover the fires in la, which was hard to get through. And obviously, like, I sobbed through those episodes. All the people that lost so much. But it just, it felt not that manufactured this season. And I liked it. It just felt really, like, genuine.

[A]

Yeah, I. We loved the themes of this season. I mean, we love watching it for the real estate. I mean, I'm obsessed. I just the fashion, the real estate and just the overall aesthetic of the show is so. Just is so pleasing to me. I think they did a great job with the fire stuff as well. But this Chrishelle and Emma storyline about Emma's schlubby MAGA boyfriend, I couldn't get enough of it. I was like, I could have had this be the whole season.

[B]

This troll. Listen, I only say that because not of how he looks, but his beliefs. He walked into that restaurant and I.

[A]

Was like, this guy, my jaw dropped.

[B]

And then he's shopping around this narrative of, like, guacamole. You feel me? No one knows what guacamole is right. Do you guys know what guacamole he is? I was like, he's this real.

[A]

This guy came in. I did not think he was going to be that unattractive. So he walks into Casa Madera in West Hollywood. Beautiful place. We've been there. That place got a lot of play. They did dinner there as well. In like a back private.

[B]

Oh, that's where it was. Okay.

[A]

Which is close to the office, you know. So he walks in this just. He's just. I was repulsed by this 27 year old spoiled rich kid who has no culture. Yeah. Just you could. He had just eaten a Taco Bell. He says he's never eaten a fruit or vegetable in his life. He said guacamole looks like baby poop. Am I right? And I'm like, he didn't know where Boston was on a map.

[B]

He.

[A]

And that's where she's from. He didn't know where Boston was on a map. You are 27. Like, he just repulsed me in every way. And he's got that like Southern, Southern accent which is like whatever. That's just personal preference. And then it comes out, he's like, you know, obviously he's MAGA leaning and he, they were talking about him saying the N word and this and that and whatever. They went back and forth about this on the reunion. But he is so opposite. He just, he's revolting to me and I couldn't believe it. Emma is this gorgeous, like classy, I thought self made rich lady herself. What is she doing with him?

[B]

How many of us have had a friend where you're just like, I feel like the friendship is slipping away because my friend picks somebody that like, I don't like or that doesn't treat them as well as I want them to be treated, which was the storyline between the two of them. But like I, at least in those situations for me, when I have a couple friends this has happened with. Yeah, I understood the appeal a little bit. I, I didn't think that they were like. They also allude to the fact that he is tremendously controlling, that it feels like a dangerous situation for her. So on top of the fact that he is whatever his political beliefs are and he's totally uncultured and he doesn't know where anything is. He doesn't know about food. He also sounds like a relatively like dangerous person.

[A]

That's what's the craziest part. Like she is so far out of your league in so many ways and you treat her like this. Like they said he gets mad, she said when she, he gets mad when she goes to a meeting. This fucking 27 year old rich kid doesn't want her to work. He gets mad when she goes to. Like he's this controlling, manipulative guy. How do you get off acting like that, looking like that? I don't know. Like if you're going to act like that, if you're going to be controlling and manipulative and you don't, you don't need to work and you need to be with me. You need to be Christian Gray, 100% older, successful, like, you know, cultured, poised, all the things like this schlubby kid. Where is the. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Just the money. My jaw was on the floor. Sell me on something other than the fact that it's just for the money. It is for the money. I thought she had her own money. Me too. And there's all these scenes where Chrishell, I mean, I do say the tone does feel like she's kind of making fun of Emma and she's being like, she's like negging her a little and she's like kind of laughing at her. But like, sell me anything good about this guy. Like, how could I take this seriously? I think Emma's like, I feel like you're making fun of me and like, I, I don't know, show me anything about this person kind or respectful of other people and I won't mock this. Yeah.

[A]

And then it got deeper into if Chrishell just doesn't like him, that's one thing. But you're, she's. Emma's an adult, she can make her own decisions. But the thing that I can't handle with a friend is that you're calling me crying from the bathroom is something that they said. And you're constantly complaining about this person who's hurting you and behaving badly. And then the next thing I know you are on a plane with them when you're supposed to be committing to something you're doing with me. Like that's the difference. Like I have like friends, partners. I don't like, they're adults, you know, like, I don't, I don't need to be like this. I feel like I was like that when I was younger. You want to meddle a little bit more. And I'm just like, as long as it's not a dangerous situation, it's really none of my business. But it becomes my business when you are talking to me about it all the time and wanting My advice and my energy and then are just gonna run right back to them.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, you know, I've had multiple situations like this, and, like, I have to tap out at some point. Like, people really attacked Chrishell for this. Like, your friend wanted you to be there for her and support her. And it's like, but we're human, and at some point we have to, like, you have to tap out at some point. If you're like, I've sunk, what is it, a year and a half, two years into helping you and supporting you and listening to this. And at some point, I. I'm allowed to throw my hands up and be like, I can't be involved in this anymore. You won't help yourself.

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

You won't put your. Your. The mask on, your oxygen mask. You won't put your. I mean, I can't just. I can't keep picking you up off the floor. And she. What she said at the reunion was, like, so powerful to me. And I don't remember the exact line, but the sentiment was like, you're so mad at me for hurting you, but, like, you won't go to the source of the hurt, which is him, and fix the actual problem.

[A]

Yes. And we are not talking about a marriage to salvage with kids. We are talking about you're dating on and off this D kid. And I usually really am always on Chrishell's side. I'm just like a team Chrishell girly. I'm a fan. And I guess the only thing I really thought was a little out of pocket was the Instagram comment that she left, But I guess where she just. People were saying, like, what's going on with you and Emma? And she commented back publicly, like, ask her about her MAGA boyfriend who likes to say the N word. And it just felt like that was obviously an intentional statement she wanted to make. You know, everyone's going to pick that up. You know, the press is like, you're making. You're making a statement in an Instagram thread, which felt childish to me and felt a little out of character for her. And that was the only thing that she lost credibility, in my opinion.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, the whole cast turned on her, and, I mean, it's not really defensible behavior. Like, Chrishell tried to defend it a little bit. There is no defense if you. You. That is one of the most inflammatory things you can say about somebody, that their partner says the N word and that they refuse to acknowledge pronouns and genders and things like that. And like. Like, what did you think was gonna happen? I mean, the. I'm sure the avalanche of hate that came towards Emma was unbelievable.

[A]

Right. And the delivery was. It wasn't like she said this in an interview. She just popped off in a comment like, it just like that gave me the ick a little bit. Even though I agree with the sentiment of why you wouldn't like that person. So that's one part of it.

[B]

I would have minded it less if it was during a scene that you're filming.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're on television and someone's like, why don't you like him 100%? I'll tell you why.

[A]

Let it fly. But there are some things you shouldn't say in fights, and that was Nicole and Chrishell and Raina. Again, there were two moments where my jaw was on the floor. And when Nicole said the thing about Chrishell's parents, I couldn't believe it.

[B]

I thought I misunderstood it. So Nicole said, like, what? Ask your. Ask your parent. Chrishell's parents are dead. She said, like, ask your parents about.

[A]

She just said, like, I think you're projecting. Basically, her sentiment was like, you're projecting on me about drugs. Maybe you're talking about your parents. Parents kind of vibe.

[B]

I thought I misunderstood it. I was like, surely this person is not making a comment to a woman who's lost both of her parents and.

[A]

Like, grew up in poverty. And maybe there were drug issues. I mean, I don't know the whole history, but Nicole is the most unlikable character that's ever been on that show in nine seasons. And that's saying a lot because of Christine Quinn. Like, at least Christine Quinn was a good villain, fun to watch. I was, like, trying to explain this Sparkle Eyes where I was like, you don't understand. Like, because he was in and out, I watched it all in one sitting, and he was working on some stuff, and he. Five, six hours straight. And so he's picking up things here and there. He's like, so we hate her, right? I'm like, yeah, she's so hateable. And I was like, I gotta tell you about Christine, though. And I was like, there used to be this woman. I really stopped being able to even watch her because I had so much dislike for her. But at least she had the good fashion. She was fun to watch. She was a perfect villain.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

Nicole is. She's so hateable. Like, I can't stand her.

[B]

She won't do anything that's likable. Christine has at least fun to look.

[A]

At and watch moments. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, Nicole won't do anything to help herself. I mean, it's almost as though, like, she's playing a character. Like, I almost can't believe that she. Like this. Like, no one would say things like that and then try to, like, defend them and back them up. And she came to the reunion. I mean, the way she filibustered, just apologizing to Krishna. They were like, can you just. Just say you're sorry? And she was like, well, let me ask her. No.

[A]

She was like, well, I didn't say dead parents. That was her rebuttal. She's like, for the record, I didn't say dead parents. They are dead. I did call her dead parents drug addicts, but I didn't say the word dead at the group dinner.

[B]

And they're like, but you did, so can you apologize to her? And she's like, let me ask you another thing. Did it insult you? Did it hurt your feelings, though? And Chrishell's like, yeah, I don't think it would hurt anybody's feelings. Kind of just hate.

[A]

I try not to use the word hate too much. I just. As a character, if she is playing a character, I'm sure she has some redeeming qualities. I cannot stand this woman.

[B]

I can't either. And I think she's off the show. They sort of made it seem like Jason was firing her, but she's. Oh, he just kicked her off the show.

[A]

Okay. And then Chrishell's not coming back, which I understand. And Chelsea is not coming back, right?

[B]

Oh, is Chelsea not coming back? Just. Chrishell announced that she was not coming back.

[A]

Wait, why did I get Chelsea? Someone told me that.

[B]

So Chrishell called out production. Cause Chelsea gave this interview this week, and I actually really. I liked her in this interview. She was very measured, and she said, you know, I feel that I catch the brunt of a lot of things, and people really hate on me for things that other characters do. And it's like, yes, you're such a bad bitch. And I'm framed as an angry black woman. And I. I have tried my best to not be like that and to not be called that, essentially. And she says, I do everything I can. I actually thought this season, she. She just seemed beaten down and sad, and, you know, like, she's had a hard time with her marriage ending.

[A]

So she has really had a redemption arc in my eyes. I really disliked her the first season she was on. But here's the thing, and, you know this. They bring in a new cast member to stir the pot. That's what they did with Sofia Vergara's cousin is that they. You can feel it. And then you remember that that's what Chelsea's role was too. They bring in the new person and they have them go talk to everybody and stir the pot and get everybody all riled up and then bring it up. Like, I think you're manipulated when you're new like that and you're not quite sure where you haven't gotten your footing yet. And you're just more vulnerable to being manipulated. You're the new kid on the block. So I felt the same way with the new woman this season, that that's what they did to Chelsea, and that's why I did dislike her more. I think they pushed those new people to create drama.

[B]

That's a good point.

[A]

And so I just like her more now. And then we have Flowergate, which was that Chelsea sent flowers after Mary's house was robbed and Mary accused her of doing it to get airtime. And I mean, Mary's reaction was so disproportionate to. I feel like what happened I thought was crazy. She just went totally bananas. But she'd been through it.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I guess. I mean, you and I, I'm sure we both believe that if that would happen to us, if he broke into three people, broke into my house in broad daylight and stole everything I own and all the most important things in the world, I would have not even a thread of tolerance left for anything, anybody. I mean, she went so nuts. But, like, you're so out of body, and I'm sure for a long time you're out of body and you can't trust anything or anyone, and you're just terrified for your own safety. But she. Even in the reunion, which would have been filmed, what, months later.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She insists that Chelsea, like, coordinated with production to get those flowers delivered. And I asked you if you thought. Well, you tell me, do you think that. Do you think she coordinated with production.

[A]

To get it delivered? I think on camera that she. I think that production knew she was gonna send the flowers. I don't think she coordinated. I wanna believe that she. On her own accord, which she said, if I was doing this for airtime, I would have sent you $2,000 flowers and made a big, big splash. She was like, these were $150 mid ass flowers. I just wanted to send them to you. And I think production probably caught wind of it and they did it. That's my take. I also think I'm with Chelsea and that flowers are the right move with someone who doesn't like you. I mean, completely stay out of it if you want, but I was saying to you, like, you and I have people in our lives that we are not friends with anymore. That could be a trigger in a dark moment. And I don't think I want a text from them. But flowers would feel more appropriate. It feels like farther removed. It feels like I'm thinking about you and I'm doing this as just as a kind gesture, but I'm not in your phone and Mary is screaming, why don't you text me? And I'm like. And Chelsea's like, we don't text. So, like, I was on her side with that being the right move with someone you're not friends with.

[B]

I also, I don't wanna feel on the hook to text you back. I don't wanna feel like I have to respond. Flowers are just sort of like a one directional. You got. You sent this little gesture and it's over. We're not friends. We don't fuck with each other. I'm gonna text you, and then you have to text me back.

[A]

I. I totally agree. Like, I. We've. We've talked about this. I think of people. I think of one or two people in particular I don't have a relationship with anymore. I lost. God forbid I have a loss in my family. I don't know, flowers might be what I would want.

[B]

I think.

[A]

So you heard about it. You want to do a nice thing and you don't want to, like, your name to pop up on my phone as someone that could be a trigger.

[B]

Also, we support people the way that we want to be supported. So, like, Chelsea might be like, well, I wouldn't want to see your name pop up my phone. So I'm supporting you the way that I would want to be supported. And Mary's like, I want you to text me. No, you don't either.

[A]

But Mary, I mean, you know, with Mary on the podcast, like, I'm usually a fan of Mary. She just was so bothered by her crying because she saw her name card at Bree's party. Like, what is going on? Like, she is the. This deep hatred for Chelsea.

[B]

I mean, the name car thing, I forgot about that. It's like you're on an ensemble cast show.

[A]

It's.

[B]

You should assume that those people are going to be at every filming.

[A]

Well, she was told she wasn't going to be there, and then she saw her name at the table and she broke down. She's crying in the corner. I was like, mary, what is actually going on here?

[B]

I think she's trauma victim. I mean, if you saw somebody hop over your fence, rob, you take everything.

[A]

She's just traumatized. Which was. I mean, I can't imagine. And what. I mean, that was, like, the worst thing. Yeah.

[B]

So I think that's probably where it comes from is like, trauma brain, where you're just like, I. I can't deal with anything else.

[A]

You're connecting this person to what you're already going through. Yeah.

[B]

But it was great season. I really like the themes this season. I could unpack the Chrishell. Emma, like, boy gets in the middle of your relationship. Your friendship thing. Like, I could do it for hours. I think it's so painful. It's horrible to watch your friend that you know deserves so much more that you love do this and be like, I lose. I'm gonna lose this friendship because of this terrible person who you are choosing. I am the one that gets. That loses. That's crazy.

[A]

It is. He is so embarrassing. Like, we talk about the whole Vogue article. Is it embarrassing to have a boyfriend? Which we're gonna do a whole episode coming up. It is embarrassing to have that boyfriend. You know what I thought was so funny? When they would ask Emma a lot of times, what do you see in him? And she would be like. She said like, he gets something about family. And they're like, but your family doesn't like him.

[B]

That was so funny.

[A]

And then she goes, no, but my. My niece and nephew do. Yeah, because he's a child. He gets along with the kids.

[B]

He's like, fruit's dumb, right, guys? And they're like, he's awesome.

[A]

He was like, what about this guacamole? Doesn't it look like baby poop? And they're like, like, I died. When she was like, he's just really family oriented. And they were like, but your family hates him. And she, like, was like, he gets along with the kids. I lost it.

[B]

He was like, I don't know where Boston is. And they were like, us either we can't read. Krishna was like, but your dad hates him. She's like, no, no, no. But people under 10 like him.

[A]

Like, I just. I like straight up asking someone what they see in someone.

[B]

Well, I would need. If you and I were on teetering on the end of our friendship because of a man, I would really need you to sell me on that, man.

[A]

Okay, so that is selling Sunset another show we just wanted to discuss, which I'll let Rayna Take It Away is Kim Kardashian's new show. Not just Kim Kardashian. Sarah Paulson, Glenn Close, Niecy Nash, Teyana Taylor, all the people. But all spare on Hulu.

[B]

I mean, it's getting widely made fun of and panned, and people are saying it's, like, campy and stupid, and it's, like, not even so bad that it's good. I'm gonna stick up for a little bit. Okay. I just. I don't think it's supposed to be good. It's so high gloss. I mean, you watch the opening couple scenes, and even the way that it's edited and shot, you're like, this is not supposed to be like a Of courtroom drama. I mean, it looks like 19 Paris filters were put on top of every.

[A]

More than selling Sunset. More than selling Sunset shows.

[B]

I mean, it's just cheesy and campy and, like, I laughed out loud. Like, Sarah Paulson is this. Like, she's the villain, and she's, like, mad at all them. She starts a competing law firm. She's like, fuck you, fucking bitches. Fuck you. She sends, like, an edible arrangement that she said that she dipped in, like, feces. And it just made me laugh. And it's not like. And just like that, where you're like, it's so bad, but it's actually trying to be really good.

[A]

Okay. I mean, yeah, they're saying it's Ryan Murphy, and people are saying it's camp, but some people are also saying, like, it's so bad, it doesn't even deserve the label of camp. But I appreciate that sentiment. I haven't watched it yet, but I guess my feeling is, like, the trailers made it look more serious. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Like, are you watching it laughing like you're supposed to laugh?

[B]

I don't know if you're supposed to laugh. There were two times this morning I laughed out loud this morning.

[A]

This is what Rayna's doing in the mornings.

[B]

I was doing my makeup, watching it. I laughed out loud. I mean, Kim Kardashian is, like, married to this unknown actor. He buys her this diamond ring, and he's like, come to daddy. And then Kim Kardashian climbs on top of this guy, straddles him, like, making out this random guy, like, that guy. I hit the jackpot. I don't know. I just. I like the ensemble cast.

[A]

I.

[B]

It's not going to change your life. It's not. It's not a law drama that's going to change your life. Like, Suits.

[A]

But I think that's what I wanted.

[B]

So I think, like, I.

[A]

At least I would know going in, like, the trailers made it seem like suits.

[B]

The trailers did make it seem like it was going to be this, like, bad.

[A]

Yeah, bad bitches. Like, you know, just so I don't know.

[B]

Okay, so while you're deciding if you want to watch All Fair, I'm just going to read you a couple of the reviews. They really made me laugh out loud. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The Guardian says, fascinatingly, incomprehensibly, existentially terrible. The Independent called it possibly the worst TV show to ever exist. And Variety said the show is clumsy and condescending and criticized its tone heavily. I mean, people hated this show.

[A]

You jogged my memory that I saw a headline that said, all's Fair debuts with 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[B]

I don't think it's ever been done before.

[A]

It's really. It's really set a record.

[B]

One of its kind.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, well, we'll see. I will check it out. But I just thought it was interesting that the same time Kim Kardashian's lawyer show premiered, she failed the bar.

[B]

Do you think she, like, did that the same week on purpose?

[A]

She's like, honestly, when the show premieres and I pass the bar, this is gonna be great promo. And it was like, oh, honey.

[B]

She's like, I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on tv.

[A]

I mean, it's just. That's a funny irony there. And good for her for keeping trying. She's gonna take it again, right? Why is she still trying? It's just a hard test.

[B]

I couldn't pass lawyer stuff. That's hard. But, like, why is she still doing those?

[A]

Because it's like, you work so hard towards it.

[B]

You.

[A]

You don't. You don't want to give up at the end.

[B]

But, like, she's not gonna be a lawyer. So, like, can't you just be like, I did it right?

[A]

She's like, you guys, I'm playing a lawyer. Like, clearly, I'm a lawyer.

[B]

What? Somebody says, I'm not a doctor, but I play one on tv. There's like, a funny, famous line, yeah, maybe it's George Clooney.

[A]

I don't know. But what did she say? She chatgpt like, her over. She was trying to use chatgpt and they were giving her wrong answers.

[B]

Or like, rfk.

[A]

I don't know. They're like, kim, this is getting ridiculous.

[B]

Kim, just stop. Anyways, I mean, listen, the show's not gonna change Your life. But it's like, beautiful and it's this ensemble cast of women. And like, I. I'll lay in bed at night and watch something stupid.

[A]

Well, I just. Just. I have a line and. And just like that hit that line for me and I couldn't hate watch it anymore. So I'll see. I may be okay with this or not.

[B]

And just like that thought it really, like, did that shit. They were really trying to do it.

[A]

They thought they ate with that. Well, and speaking of the Kardashian clan, Kris Jenner had her 70th birthday party and all these stars were there and whatever. We don't need to get into it, you guys, if. If you care, you've seen the photos and all the stars that were there and this and that. But. But the thing that we found the most interesting was that Kim and Chris quietly deleted photos of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry from the birthday party from carousels. Like, pulled the photos out from which I don't know if you guys didn't know you can take photos out of carousels. Even the lead one, you taught me that. Yeah, whatever you guys want to do. Which is great for breakups and whatnot. So they took out the photos of these two. And I am so fascinated and curious.

[B]

So. So I haven't even really seen people speculate why. I mean, I guess my only thing would be that the Kardashians are tied to Donald Trump, and this party was held at Jeff Bezos house, who was also tied to Donald Trump. And I don't know if this was like. I don't know. I don't know if it's like some kind of politically motivated thing. I don't know if Meghan Markle has come out against. Like, I really. I'm digging deep for this one. I really don't know. I have no idea.

[A]

I guess. Guess the main question is, what side does it come from? Was literally, this will keep me up at night. I got. I need answers. Because was it like that Megan and Harry weren't really supposed to be there? Or it's a bad look that they're there and they said, can you delete? Or Chris and Kim sat down and were like, ugh. They gave us the ick. They, like, delete the photo.

[B]

I think it's the. I mean, I would think that Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's. The camp reached out to them and they were like, we don't want you. We want to be associated with you guys.

[A]

So the two photos are interesting because one Is like more of a candid. And the other one is posed. So they posed for photos. Like, if you were posing for a photo, you know, that photo may end up somewhere. So Page Six reached out to reps, but they haven't heard back. I just. We will stay on this, you guys. This is important to us. Yeah, they post for photos. I'm seeing other photos too. They. They were not trying to hide that they were there.

[B]

No. This is pretty crazy.

[A]

I know. I mean, just, I can't get over this visual of Kris Jenner and Kim Kardashian getting on Instagram and like, deleting, which maybe their people did it for them. But being like, take the photo out of the carousel of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Like, I. I will not get over this. This is so important to me.

[B]

It's like, so, like, beneath them, like, celebrities are like, just like. Like Megan's. Like, you take that photo down out of your carousel right now. I mean, one of them, you don't even know. That's Meghan Markle.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I mean, it's just her back, right?

[A]

Oh, you do.

[B]

It's her. It's the side of her face.

[A]

Okay, well, you guys let us know your theories in the comments, and we will leave you with some headlines.

[B]

We have a much like the love shack Fancy Stanley water bottle. We have a new water bottle. We have a new cup. We have a new cup Causing headlines.

[A]

The labuba of cups.

[B]

Starbucks apologizes after barista cup. Sparks fights and long lines and a $500 resale listing. So Starbucks came out with this limited edition cup. It could not be more adorable. It is a bear. It has a green hat.

[A]

You think it's adorable?

[B]

I think it's so cute. I'm obsessed.

[A]

All right, let me ask you this.

[B]

Do I think labo.

[A]

If you got it as a gift, would you keep it?

[B]

I would be walking around my house every morning drinking out of it. It would be delightful.

[A]

I can't believe you and I are so different. Cuz we disagreed on the boo boos too. If someone gifted me this, it would be in the Goodwill P aisle immediately. What? I think it's cute. And you know I love bears. I don't want to drink out of that.

[B]

So every morning I pour my coffee into, like, a nice little cup too. And I have, like, a special straw for my coffee. Like, it just. It brightens my day.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

To drink my iced coffee out of a little clear bear with a little green cap. It would delight me endlessly.

[A]

Okay. While you're in the camp of the people that were literally in these lines. 2:00am 4:00am waiting like black Friday old school style. Waiting for these fights. I saw one being thrown and it shattered. Which man down. And then there's speculation that Starbucks employees were hoarding them.

[B]

Hoarding them to sell them on ebay.

[A]

Inside insider trading. And can I tell you my favorite part are Walmart and Aldi's responses. So I didn't think you'd seen this. I wanted to show you on air. So Walmart went in immediately. Their caption is Walmart version.

[B]

Wait. Okay. I'm so mad you showed me this because I was thinking in bed this morning, I swear to God, Walmart. And I hear the same. It's a photo of the honey bear. Yeah, right.

[A]

It looks like a honey.

[B]

I was laying in bed this morning thinking people could just go to the grocery store and buy honey bears and empty them out and put the coffee in there. The. The honey that like from the.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. We all have one in our cupboard.

[B]

We all have honey bear. Okay.

[A]

Yeah. So I guess Walmart was like we have that too. And then Aldi sent like post this.

[B]

Isn'T on a 30 bear. Well, we got this little diva.

[A]

So Aldi posts this little gingerbread. I can't. I don't know if this is real or not or if they're just trolling. But I will say they write like we have this gingerbread that you can stick a straw in. It looks like an ornament. And then their caption that Seattle based coffee chain could never. I like it. Shots fired.

[B]

I love all these big chains and their social media teams. Yeah, I love them. Aldi is always trolling people.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Big time trolls.

[A]

Yeah, big like Wendy's Energy. So the. I guess Starbucks is like we're going to release more holiday stuff. Like there's more stuff coming. But people went crazy for this barista. And it's funny that we disagree yet again. Like on the laboo booze. Now I want to get you on and I'm not going to.500 is a.

[B]

Lot of money for a cup.

[A]

It would be worth it for the clip. Guys. Venmo me and I'll make it happen.

[B]

Wait. I think okay. If you Venmo you could use our company money to else but it with.

[A]

You know I can afford it. But that's the last thing I want to spend my money on. But I feel like I would do.

[B]

It for the bit the best $500 if.

[A]

If I buy you this fudgeing thing for $500. And I come over and it's in the goodwill pile.

[B]

I want.

[A]

The friendship is over.

[B]

I would wash it every day just to drink out of it every single morning. That's how much I love it.

[A]

Okay. And lastly, Zendaya is. The rumors are that she is refusing to do press with Sydney Sweeney for euphoria for the new season. And that's politically motivated.

[B]

Listen, I know that it's a job, and you're paid to do a job, and you're on set and you're an actor and you're supposed to promote the new season, whatever you're on, but I don't hate this level of petty.

[A]

But I think she's like, I feel so strongly about the political climate, and I wanna make a statement, and I don't wanna buddy up with her because I don't agree with her. And she has given me the ick like she has with a lot of people. And a lot of people, not a lot of people are into Sydney Sweene. I mean, she's like, on. She's, you know, her name is in everyone's mouth. So I guess again, this is still just rumored. We couldn't find, like, a really legitimate publication, but they're just saying, Zendaya is like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do it. I don't wanna be aligned with her.

[B]

I don't. I mean, this is the same thing as people saying, I don't wanna go home for the holidays. Cause I don't wanna get stuck in these conversations with people about politics. And I know that it's different because they're being paid to be there, but I don't know. I would just be like, I have free will. This is different than how it felt, felt years ago in politics. I could stand next to a person that voted. Honestly, I. I don't even think the last time Donald Trump was president that it felt like this. Now I understand people being like, you're on one side or the other.

[A]

Yeah. Because they used to be buddies. Like, they used to be on the red carpet together and they were like, friends. I mean, Sydney Sweeney is just. She's such a hot topic right now. That GQ interview is just like one for me. I'm. I'm just not a fan of her. And it's funny that people are like, women are jealous of her because she's hot and I'm not a fan of her. And I also don't think she's hot. So the narrative, it bothers me. And it just Feels like dumb men that say that shit. Like, just so we're here. Like, women don't hate Sydney Sweeney because we're jealous that she's hot.

[B]

Well, debatable. Pretty much everybody that I'm a fan of is very hot.

[A]

Like, literally the Hailey Bieber. The Hailey Bieber interview was also. Also aired from the same issue. And I just thought it was, like, cute and sweet. Yeah. You know? But anyway, Sydney Sweeney's new movie has one of the worst openings in box office history because guess what? People want to see her being hot. She has a male fan base that want to see her being hot. And they. She wasn't hot in this movie and she was playing this, like, iconic woman. And I appreciate the story, but, like.

[B]

Wrong person to ugly up. That's. You're right. You're just like, this is. I mean, I understand it's Charlize Theron got super ugly for Monster. Like. Like, some people can do it and I know they're trying to win an Oscar, but Sydney Sweeney has built a reputation on those titties and she can't.

[A]

Yeah. And, you know, I don't want to offend the boxer Kristy Martin, but, yeah, Sydney Sweeney didn't look the way that the men that support her wanted her to look. Yeah.

[B]

In that movie, it's honestly really surprising because movies about boxing, I mean, that's what wins everybody the Oscar.

[A]

Well, yeah, like, obviously there's more male boxing movies, but Hilary Swank and what was it? I want to say baby girl.

[B]

I know I did Crybaby. That was your name.

[A]

Jail. That was my nickname in jail. That was like one of my favorite movies. My friends had to, like, drag me out of the theater. I was in tears. It was like, so good.

[B]

Little baby.

[A]

No, I think it was called A Million Dollar Baby. We were so close. So speaking of million dollars, Christie, which is the movie Sydney Sweeney plays real life boxer Christy Martin. Gross just over $1.3 million domestically in its opening week in an average of $646 per theater.

[B]

That's crazy. I think you're right, though. I think people. I think she has staked her reputation on looking a certain way. And I think people don't want to see her look a different way. That's not what her fan base wants.

[A]

Yeah, I was. KFC did a whole thing from kfc from Barstool. We usually usually like his takes. We disagree sometimes. And he just posted this thing like, is her. What's going on with her reputation? Like, a lot of people didn't like the GQ thing, and it just is just like. I don't know. It's. It's. It's interesting to watch and just. It's an interesting study in celebrity. And I am certainly not a woman that's like, I'm tearing her down. I'm. I'm not a fan, and I'm not a fan of the. The jeans ad and the response to it and the politics and all the things. And that's just what it is. I mean, we could talk about her every week.

[B]

There's, like, four different news stories about her every single week.

[A]

Her tits on the red carpet read. I've never seen someone go braless with titties like that.

[B]

I never. I never had the confidence back when I looked like that.

[A]

Those are those big naturals.

[B]

I was like, go off, I guess I'll be honest. It made me miss mine. It made me feel like I made a mistake.

[A]

You don't see. You don't see areola on the red carpet. On breasts that big. I've never seen it done.

[B]

Never, never. And it really. It made me wish I could do it.

[A]

She's really a trailblazer in the areola world. All right, guys, well, that is your snack. You can find us at Girls gotta eat.com. girls Gotta Eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Raina is Raina Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend. Leave a comment, let us know what you thought, and we will see you Monday.

[B]

Have a great weekend, guys.

[A]

Bye.