The Snack: Fyre Festival 2, Bodyguard App, and White Lotus Tea

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat – The Snack: Fyre Festival 2, Bodyguard App, and White Lotus Tea

Date: February 27, 2025
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine and Rayna Greenberg

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Episode Overview

This week’s “The Snack” serves up a comedic dose of pop culture catch-up, internet absurdities, and TV commentary, all delivered with Ashley and Rayna’s trademark wit and candid banter. They dig into the chaos surrounding Elon Musk's satirical “productivity report” email to federal employees, the baffling return of Fyre Festival (2!), a wild new “Protector” bodyguard app, Rihanna’s elusive album, and their latest hot takes on HBO’s White Lotus and the new season of Love Is Blind.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Calendar Rants & Birthday Talk

• The episode opens with the hosts riffing on how weird February is as a month—its short length and the confusion it creates for remembering birthdays.
  • “January was eight weeks. February, it's over.” (Rayna, 00:26)
  • Both jokingly lament their inability to remember friends' and family members' birthdays without Facebook reminders.

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2. Elon Musk’s “Productivity Report” Email – Government Chaos

[02:20–11:22]

• The hosts satirize how Elon Musk, as President (in a fictional scenario), sent an email to all federal employees demanding they report their weekly productivity—mirroring recent real-life antics in government tech.

• They lampoon the whole process:

  • The ambiguous subject, “What did you do last week?”
  • Agencies telling employees to ignore the email.
  • Musk threatening firings via Twitter/X.
  • The Trump-Musk staff chaos.

  “What a clown show. And that's an insult to clowns.” (Ashley, 05:20)

• Internet Response:
  They share hilarious viral responses and parody productivity reports people sent back ("Blitzed on ketamine, ignored my children, tweeted 1,782 times...").

  • Example: The Rickroll email: “Did not give you up, did not let you down…”
  • Rayna: “We're really seeing the creativity in humanity.” (08:28)

Ashley & Rayna’s Satirical Productivity Reports

• Ashley’s: Brutally roasts Elon (“You are the nastiest skank bitch anyone has ever met… booked four flights, wrote a joke about your 13 kids, deleted my Twitter…” 08:49–09:36)
• Rayna’s: “Dear Elon… I made out with a guy, then I watched him make out with another guy… unclogged a toilet… sold furniture, bought clothes, went out till 2am, and did my skincare routine.” (09:48–10:45)

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3. Fyre Festival 2 – The Scammer Returns

[11:25–17:42]

• The pull-no-punches breakdown of the infamous Fyre Festival's resurrection by Billy McFarland (“I don't say his name”).

• Festival allegedly set for June in Mexico; tickets supposedly cost up to $1M—yet no musical artists confirmed, everything shrouded in scammy secrecy.

  “If you buy tickets to this, you deserve it.” (Rayna, 12:25)

• Event includes “immersive experiences” (MMA fighting?)—hosts openly mock the absurdity and speculate on who might headline (Elon Musk with a chainsaw? Kanye?).

• They reminisce about Fyre Fest I, its documentaries, the iconic “cheese sandwich” photo, and the real damage done to Bahamian workers.

  “This is the real Fyre'd festival.” (Ashley, 08:42)

  • Rayna: “We’ll do a report every week on Fyre Festival, I don’t care.” (17:46)

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4. Rihanna’s Album Tease and the Mystique of Fenty

[18:06–21:10]

• The hosts hype Rihanna’s long-promised ninth album (“Anti” was 2016), noting her defiant interviews (“after waiting eight years, you might as well just wait some more”).
  • Rayna: “What if it’s country? Cowboy Fenty.” (19:19)
• They muse about her versatility and the genre-busting possibilities.
• Rayna learns, on air, that “Fenty” is Rihanna’s actual last name—a moment of pop knowledge revelation.
  • “Today years old when you realized that's her last name?” (Ashley, 19:46)

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5. App Watch: Protector/Bodyguard Dating?

[24:03–30:22]

• Rayna test-drives Protector, a new app—think Uber for bodyguards, inspired by LA Fashion Week celebs hiring armed, qualified protection.
• Most guards appear to be tough-looking, bald men in their 40s-50s with police/military backgrounds.
• Each has a video intro where they show off their tactical wardrobe options—from business formal to “tactical casual” (combat gear).
  • Ashley: “What an upgrade from TaskRabbit.” (25:47)
• The app lets users pick the number of bodyguards, their attire, and view detailed credentials.
  • “Why isn’t Revolve doing this? I want to see what this looks like on somebody!” (Ashley, 28:01)
• Both hosts (somewhat seriously) consider hiring a bodyguard… for everything.

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6. TV Corner: White Lotus and Love Is Blind

White Lotus S3 (Italy) – Southern Charm, Music, and Parental Enabling

[30:36–38:25]

• The hosts dissect how White Lotus creator Mike White modeled the S3 family on Southern Charm’s dysfunctional Ravenels—a not-so-flattering parallel.

• Notable:

  • Parker Posey’s performance echoes Patricia from SC.
  • Discussion of mother-son dynamics: “Moms who enable predatory sons... That’s their mom.” (Ashley, 32:47)
  • Speculation about the family’s fate: possible mass shooting, financial exposé, or dramatic twist?

• Debate on the “nothing happens” complaints: The show—like great indie films—is about building tension and depicting people as they are, not always delivering big plot payoffs.

  “People say that every season. You're not that smart... not everybody is a big thinker.” (Ashley, 35:47)

Love Is Blind – Season Woes and Character Dives

[38:27–52:25]

• The new season is a “struggle”: contestants seem too normal, well-adjusted, nothing spicy happening—save for wildcard Dave.

• Dave’s “sex survey” montage (“Are you guys fucking?”) is both cringey and the only reality TV spark.

  • “Dave has single-handedly saved this season. He’s the only reason I’ll watch.” (Rayna, 39:23)

• In-depth analysis of Lauren & Dave’s situationship drama; Dave’s fixation on Lauren sleeping with someone shortly before filming. Both hosts call out the slut-shaming vibes and discuss production influence.

  • Ashley: “If you fucked someone the morning you left for the show—I do not care.”

• Sarah & Ben segment: TikTok drama erupts over Ben's "past" with another woman, and the hosts break down how honesty is more important than pretending to be perfect.

• Doppelganger Game: Ashley matches contestants to celebrities,

  • e.g., “Devin is Key from Key & Peele.” (50:06)
  • “Lauren is Pam from The Office—Pam and Roy.” (51:31)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ashley (re: Musk): “What a clown show. And that’s an insult to clowns." (05:20)
• Rayna (on Fyre Festival): “If you buy tickets to this, you deserve it.” (12:25)
• Ashley: “You are the nastiest skank bitch anyone has ever met. No one should trust you. You are a fugly slut.” (08:49)
• Rayna (on Dave, Love Is Blind): “Dave has single-handedly saved this season. He’s the only reason I’ll watch.” (39:23)
• Ashley (on White Lotus/TV): “People say that every season. You're not that smart. Not everybody is a big thinker.” (35:47)
• Ashley (on Rihanna): “She’s like, you guys waited? Wait a little while longer.” (19:14)
• Ashley (on the bodyguard app): "What an upgrade from TaskRabbit." (25:47)
• Rayna (on White Lotus girls): “I can’t wait for the scene where it all explodes, where they’re all screaming at each other and hurling insults.” (34:41)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:20] – Elon Musk’s “Productivity Report” saga
• [08:49] – Ashley’s viral ‘productivity report’ roast
• [11:25] – Fyre Festival 2 & scammy event culture
• [18:06] – Rihanna’s album rumors / Fenty fact check
• [24:03] – Lina explores the Protector bodyguard app
• [30:36] – White Lotus Southern Charm connection
• [38:27] – Love Is Blind S9 hot takes & “Dave the hero”
• [50:00] – Ashley’s doppelganger contest (Love Is Blind cast)

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Episode Tone

Light, cheeky, irreverent, and full of insider-y cultural references—Ashley and Rayna riff off each other, oscillating between sharp critique and unserious, memeable observations. A relaxing but information-packed pop culture episode—perfect for catching up with what’s trending and reminding yourself not to take the headlines, or yourself, too seriously.

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Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the snack. A lighter serving of Girls gotta eat.

[B]

This is a Dear Media production.

[A]

Enjoy.

[B]

Hi, guys. Hi. Welcome to the end of the week. End of the month. Great.

[A]

It's the way March comes up. You're like, oh, my God, it's March 1st. Well, I feel like it comes out of nowhere.

[B]

February didn't come out of nowhere.

[A]

February couldn't come quick enough. February.

[B]

January was eight weeks. February, it's over.

[A]

But isn't it? So it's just February. What a weird little month. You know, like all of a sudden it's the 28th, and all of a sudden it's the first.

[B]

Okay, hot take you guys. I want to look up who planted the month because like every month is 30 or 31 days. And somebody was like, I have an idea. Let's make. Let's do 28 days for February.

[A]

It makes me feel like they just didn't count, right? And they were like, fuck, this one month has to be shorter, like to fit the calendar. I don't know. Do you know any February birthdays?

[B]

Do we have any birthdays this month?

[A]

I'm trying to think. My, like, grandma, rest in peace, was a Valentine's Day birthday. I'm trying to think, but I don't think I celebrated.

[B]

I did not text one person happy birthday this month. That doesn't mean there weren't birthdays.

[A]

No, I forget everyone's birthday since I don't have Facebook.

[B]

You tell me there's people's birthdays.

[A]

I try to keep you in the loop because I know, like, I'll be like Raina, Texas person, their birthday, text this person, someone died. Like, I try to keep you on task. No, like, if it's more my friend. Yeah, but it's your friend too.

[B]

You always tell me it's your family's birthday and then my. I have to tell my dad when and it's my brother's birthday and my birthday.

[A]

You do? Dad, it's my birthday.

[B]

I gave him like a Runway. I'm like, my birthday's coming up. Oh, my God. Seven days.

[A]

Seriously?

[B]

Yeah. And it's so funny cause my brother, me and my mom are all born on the 17th and so like, it's not hard to remember it.

[A]

Wait, really?

[B]

Yeah. 17th of June, August and November.

[A]

That's kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean, mine is me, my dad and my brother are all within what, a 12 day window? July 7th, 9th and 19th. Huh. So my mom's, you know, she's busy in July.

[B]

Busy month.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

So excited for the report.

[A]

This week we are going to do our productivity report in honor of Elon Musk, the President, United States.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Making fun of him, actually, in his deranged move to email all the government workers and say, what you do last week? What did you do last week? That's the subject line. So last Saturday, Elon Musk, everybody, Federal employees received an email from the Office of Personal Management. That's the opm, you guys with the subject line, what did you do last week on Saturday?

[B]

I know what you did last summer.

[A]

I still. You know what's so funny? I know what you did last summer. And then the next sequel is I still know what you did last summer.

[B]

I haven't forgot. Buzz, Buzz.

[A]

Me and my friends and I back in high school would, like, just go. We would just have that joke running for everyone. Be like, I still kind of remember what you might have done three summers ago. Like, we're like, how long are they gon.

[B]

Well, was it. Did he not die at the end of the movie? Is that like the whole thing is like, buzz, Buzz, still, still going.

[A]

I can't even remember that. Fisherman.

[B]

He was a fisherman, which I think is sexy. That guy was kind of hot in that trench coat.

[A]

He was a lot far, like, killer. Like a lot of our, like, yeah, slasher killers from our. Like, Jason was kind of hot. Big. You know who wasn't hot was Freddy Krueger.

[B]

He really scared me. He was all burned up. But if you don't look at their faces, like, they're big dudes.

[A]

I like that sweater. Okay, so he sent this email. What did you do last week? What did you. Last week? It said. Please reply to this email with approx. Can write approximately approx. Period and no greeting. Please reply to this email with approx. 5 bullets of what you accomplished last week and CC your manager. Please do not send any classified information, links or attachments. Deadline is this Monday at 11:59pm Eastern Time. And several agencies told workers to ignore the request, including the Justice Department, the FBI, the State Department, the Pentagon, the Department of Energy, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. So Trump publicly backed the effort earlier in the day. There was no word early Tuesday on how many workers complied with the directive. On Monday Evening, Musk gave workers some leeway. He. He tweeted out, he said on X, he's talking to the government on. Hey, guys, just in case. Who's checking that? So he. He put on. He said, an X subject to the discretion of the President. They will be given another chance to comply.

[B]

He didn't reply all to the email he sent.

[A]

He put it on Twitter. Failure to respond a second time will result in termination, he added, without a new deadline.

[B]

Just do this. Just fuck around.

[A]

And the FBI is like, don't worry about it.

[B]

Also, Donald Trump was like, the FBI doesn't have to worry about it. The CIA, like, he also, like, reneged on it, too.

[A]

What a clown show. And that's an insult to clowns. Like, what if I said, tessa, do this thing? And Rayna was like, you don't have to do it. And I was like, no, you better do it or you're fired. That is so embarrassing. Like, these people running the country are like. If they're. They're cruel and they're incompetent and they're maniacal, but on top of it, they're just embarrassing me.

[B]

Okay, what if you brought your kid to work and your boss is in the room, and your kid's like, shut up. Sit down. My daddy's in charge. You're not the boss. My dad is. Except for it's the President of the whole United States and it's on national television.

[A]

Was it confirmed that that kid said that it's.

[B]

You didn't watch the clip?

[A]

Oh, I thought it was a little more like a lip reading. I couldn't tell if you could hear him.

[B]

They tried to say that. Somebody said he was saying to his dad, yeah, sure. Yeah, okay. He was looking directly at Donald Trump.

[A]

That kid's a plant. That kid was a hired assass. You know, we sat him down. I was like, tell that man sitting at the desk he sucks. Oh, my God. Okay, so, okay, so just before we get into ours, people took this and ran with it in the most hilarious ways. People also were like, hey, by the way, this is Elon Musk's email. Hit him up. Like, all this stuff gets leaked, which I love.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

Like the one when they were. They were firing everybody due to dei, and then all those emails got leaked, and then people were just flooding those email addresses. You couldn't even reach those email addresses within an hour.

[B]

So it was. If I was on the fence about quitting my job, I would be like, this is my moment. This is my swan song. This is the Second, I'm gonna send the most baller fire email, and I'm gonna talk about this until the end of time. It's like when a guy in high school scores the winning touchdown and he just tells everybody about it until he's 50. Until the end of time. I would start every conversation with what I put in this email.

[A]

You know, it's interesting. Cause I'm like, I don't. I don't know. If I were these people getting these emails, I'd be like, I'm never gonna fucking quit. Like, I. You know, I mean, I guess they can fire you, but I'm like, I just feel like I'd be too stubborn to quit and, like, take the bait, you know?

[B]

Well, would you just write like, this is what I did last week, email. So you just write nothing.

[A]

I wouldn't respond to that. That's insane. I don't take you seriously. So someone. This is a guy named John Schwarz. I guess he tweeted this out. He said, you really can just email elon [e-mail] Dear Elon, here's what I did. Blitzed on ketamine, ignored my children. Tweeted 1782 times. Wore weird sunglasses inside. Got humiliated by astronauts. Honestly, I think I should be fired for this, but that's your call, Best John. Here's. Here's one. She sent this. This woman, Angelina, she sent this. Number one. Banged your mom in the back of a 99 Civic. Number two, but not before we went to the Waffle House. Number three. But not before we did cocaine off the koala changing station. Number four. But not before we downloaded our data and dropped it off at the Chinese consulate. Number five. But not before we donated our 401ks to Pfizer. And then here's my favorite one, my five accomplishments. Someone sent this to hrpm.gov did not give you up. Did not let you down. Did not run around and desert you. Did not make you cry. Did not say goodbye.

[B]

I feel like we're really seeing the creativity in humanity.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's so unserious. I mean, it is serious. So they have. So far, they've laid off 20,000 government employees. I mean, it is very serious.

[A]

Yeah. This is the real Fired festival.

[B]

Yes. So we have made our own productivity reports.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Do you want to kick us off?

[A]

Okay. Elon comma you are the nastiest skank bitch anyone has ever met. No one should trust you. You are a fugly slut. Here's what I did last week. 1 booked four flights for my upcoming tour. If they crash, it's your fault. 2. Was reminded that you have 13 children by four women, which is more children than Nick Cannon wrote a joke about it. Thank you for being America's punchline. Three, tested out a new vibrator for our company, and it was amazing. 10. 10. Cooler to masturbate than wield a chainsaw on stage like you're a seasonal employee of a haunted house. 4. Checked in with the members of our team in a non aggressive, non demanding way, and we actually had the authority to do so. 5. Permanently deleted my Twitter account, actually.

[B]

That's so good.

[A]

I did do all that. I did do that. Okay, let me hear yours.

[B]

I was in Miami this week. Dear Elon, this is what I did this week. I made out with a guy, and then I watched him make out with another guy, and I was super chill about it. I unclogged a toilet two days after I clogged it.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Wow. There was a lot of anxiety in my body about that one. Also, I think someone else clogged it, but I won't blame Rob publicly on this.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah, please drag a man, though.

[B]

I sold three pieces of furniture on Facebook Marketplace that I bought the previous week.

[A]

That's your kink.

[B]

That's my kink. I bought all my outfits for south by Southwest two weeks ahead of time.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I bought 10 pieces of clothing on Revolve. I only returned eight.

[A]

Okay. And nothing on Amazon.

[B]

And then finally, I went out until 2am Three nights in a row. And I did my skincare routine all three nights.

[A]

I love that you did yours like a Dear Diary. And I. I really did mine like a burn book. You really were like, Elon, I really wanted you to know. And I was like, elon, I hate you and I hope you die.

[B]

Also, I ran two companies in the meantime, planned a roadmap for our second business, recorded two podcast episodes and one for the future, and planned my birthday party for the summer.

[A]

Oh, boom. That's what we really did.

[B]

And treated people with respect in the meantime.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's what we did. That's our productivity report.

[B]

Oh, my God, you're just so good. That's so funny.

[A]

Well, I just tried to insult him with everyone.

[B]

Yeah, no, that was good. Let's put it on our. On our Instagram this week.

[A]

Okay. Let's put on X this week.

[B]

You don't can't anymore.

[A]

Okay. So, yes, speaking of, our current government fyre festival is back, and this is real.

[B]

So how. If you so if you guys aren't familiar with what this was, this was several years ago. A festival that supposed to happen. I don't know. And lots of people went, it was a disaster. Back to back. Documentaries have. I'm so obsessed with them. I've watched them probably more than any other piece of content. So we're well aware of what happened here. Right. And who is the head of this? So obviously it comes out, says there's a second Fyre Festival coming. He announced it was going to be in May. It's already been Billy McFarlane. Billy McFarlane. I don't say his name.

[A]

It's like, I don't say his name.

[B]

So he announced it's going to be in May. He's already pushed it to June. But tickets have gone on sale as of right now. So tickets are going for up to a million dollars.

[A]

A million dollars?

[B]

Packages of being on a yacht, all inclusive trips. There is not one artist confirmed for.

[A]

The festival who would do this.

[B]

If you buy tickets to this, you deserve it.

[A]

No. So it's in Mexico. Isla Mujeres. I butchered that, but I thought it.

[B]

Was Islam and I didn't know how to say the next name.

[A]

I think it's. I. It's. I think it's Isla Mujeres. It means island of Women. I've been. It's gorgeous. I mean, I really hope the people who go to this aren't allowed back in the U.S. especially if you spend a million dollars on this. Like, we don't. You are so stupid. Like, please don't come back.

[B]

No, that's so true. You should be deported out of here.

[A]

Who would. Who would do the festival? Like. Like who's. Who gives like scammy vibes. Like, I can't imagine who would sign up for this.

[B]

Well, he's saying there's an incredible production company. Doesn't name the company. We are developing and building out a private island for all the actual festival activities. No photos.

[A]

You know who will headline this is Elon Musk with the fucking chainsaw on stage being part of it as a headliner.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Kanye.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, Fire Festival is like. That was our Roman Empire before we even had that language. I mean, this is all we cared about. I feel like I can't relate to anybody who doesn't love Fyre Festival. Like, I still talk about. I still reference it, the both of the documentaries. If you weren't obsessed with it and have watched both documentaries and don't still reference it today, I don't know how we can be friends. Like, it really was a great.

[B]

It was the best thing I've ever watched. And also, he's not clear about the whole weekend either. So he says, like, the whole thing is sort of like, who's to say? Who's to say will be before? There might be immersive experiences. There might be MMA fighting or something.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

He's just like, maybe. Maybe there will be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I want to know. I wish we had access to how many tickets actually sold.

[A]

Sold. I know.

[B]

Dying to know before you announce actual people that are attached to this project. And, like, how can you announce a festival that's coming soon and have no artists attached to it?

[A]

I think it's just gross to support him. Like, this is someone who defrauded people.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Who, you know, put them in danger. And even before that, like, his. All his credit card scams and everything, like, this is like a scammer. Like, how could you support him? And then I got to thinking, like, what if it's a reenactment of the first one? What if it's like a going to, like, a war reenactment attraction?

[B]

And then he's just like, gotcha, bitch.

[A]

And then you just get to eat those sandwiches. I would watch this on, like, a live stream. I want to feel like I'm there. I want to taste that musty slice of cheese on that slice of bread.

[B]

Like watching penguins at the zoo. I wonder if they will set up, like, an immersive experience where you can go get those cheese sandwiches in the Styrofoam. There's just, like, in this tent is Fyre Festival one.

[A]

Anytime I want to, like, talk shit about food, I send that photo. Yeah. Favorite photos of all time. And you guys know the photo. It's like this dusty piece of cheese on, like, a slice of bread. No condiments, and, like, a little bit of salad on the side and a Styrofoam box. My favorite photo is my favorite food photo of all time.

[B]

Do you know that that person who tweeted that was just like, no following nothing. And it is one of the most famous. Like, it should be in time 100.

[A]

It should be in the loo, in.

[B]

The coffee table book.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So McFarlane says that a minimum of $500,000 from the festival will go towards the 26 million in restitution that he owes. What, $6 million? How is every dollar not going towards it?

[A]

This is literally the. The government. Like, this is this. These are the same, like, literally what's happening in the Government is Fyre Festival. Like, are you hearing me? Like, it's the same thing. Just, like, scammers and, like, liars and are just like, yeah, well, people will do. What do we tell them?

[B]

But there's, like, other options. Like, you could go to Burning man and Coachella and something. Yeah. Something that exists. And people are like, I'm gonna put my money towards this. I'm dying to see this manifest.

[A]

I am, too.

[B]

Okay, so we. I feel like I'm waiting for a new season of television to come out. I am, like, foaming at the mouth for this to happen. I cannot, like, what's gonna happen.

[A]

I know. So this year. Yeah, this year, no artists confirmed.

[B]

Fyre Festival was coming back for round two in 2025.

[A]

Okay, that's insane.

[B]

No artists confirmed. So 2,000 tickets will go on sale beginning February 24th. So as of this week, they range in price from 1,400 to 11 million.

[A]

So, you know, just. If anyone doesn't know, like, this is impossible to. To do. So you can't plan a festival and lock in artists for three months. I have a tour planned currently through September, and, like, I still plan it kind of late, you know? Like, I could barely get some of the dates I wanted. Planning it in January. You know, like, things get planned out like this. People are on their tour schedules. Like, I feel like I don't need to talk about this. Like, it's a real thing that's happening, but it's like, this will not. You can't get artists to commit to. Who would you get to commit to this?

[B]

Well, also, the problem was not just getting artists. They actually had a lot of artists committed last time. The festival grounds the logistic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, the logistics to me is what's crazy. Like, to get enough bathroom. There was no infrastructure to get enough food, just water and general maintenance of the campgrounds. Like, this is an army of people. It should take a year.

[A]

I know. And one of the things that upset me the most about all of it were all of the local people who helped build the structures, or lack thereof, but, like, dedicated all their time and effort upon promise being paid and, like, didn't get paid. I mean, that was, like, the sickest part of it all.

[B]

I know that woman had, like, hosted all these people at her restaurant. Like, hundreds and hundreds of people.

[A]

I mean. Yeah, people bent over backwards. So we'll. We'll. We'll do a report every week on Fyre Festival. I don't care.

[B]

I can't wait. I can't wait for the documentaries About Fyre Festival 2 to come out and never leave the house again.

[A]

So obviously one artist that will not be there is Rihanna. Hot take. But she has been teasing her ninth studio album.

[B]

It's been seven years, right?

[A]

Eight years. So anti, which is one of my favorite albums of all time, no skips was in 2016. So this. She's put out a couple songs since then, but no album, obviously. This is such a thing in the zeitgeist, like Rihanna's we want new music, you know, and she is really hyping it.

[B]

I'm thrilled. I can't wait. And I feel like it's like on the precipice. Did she announce when it's coming out? No, she's just like.

[A]

She's like, I've been in the studio, it's coming. She said, I cannot put out. I cannot put up anything mediocre. This she told Harper's Bazaar, after waiting eight years, you might as well just wait some more. Rihanna does not give a fuck, but she says this body needs to come out. I'm ready to go there. I've been in the studio for eight whole years. But it didn't hit me. I was searching for it. I went through phases of what I wanted to do. This kind of album, not that album. I know it's not going to be anything that anybody expects and it's not going to be commercial or radio digestible. It's going to be where my artistry deserves to be. Right now I feel like I finally cracked it, girl.

[B]

What I mean, it's like it's an announcement about nothing.

[A]

I just think she's like, get ready. Like, I made it. We're just like finalizing, putting some finishing touches on it. So it'll be three more years.

[B]

I like when she's like, yep, you guys waited. Wait a little while longer.

[A]

I am just like, what if it's country? Cowboy Fenty.

[B]

Well, she said there is no genre. Right? The people are waiting for a reggaeton album and that. That and that there is no genre. And I mean, I think we're just seeing more and more artists say that. Like, you're not going to put me in a. Don't put me in a category.

[A]

We need some more love for Cowboy Fenty. Did you know her last name?

[B]

What did you.

[A]

Rhonda's last name is Fenty.

[B]

I missed you saying Cowboy Fenty.

[A]

Were you today years old when you realized that's her last name?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Robin, Rihanna, Fenty.

[B]

What are you saying to me? Did you know the Tessa said, how long have you known this?

[A]

I mean, I've always known it. I know that's where Fenty came from.

[B]

I guess I'd never thought about it. I support Fenty. I shop Fenty. I like their lip glosses. Is this common knowledge?

[A]

I don't think it is. That's why I wanted to bring it up today. Cause it jogged my memory when I was like, what would Rihanna's country album be called? I thought a Cowboy Fenty.

[B]

That's funny.

[A]

I was just like, I wonder if Raina doesn't know Robin Fenty.

[B]

I wonder if this is common knowledge. And it's like, I think it is. It was hiding in plain sight from me. It's just. It's been in my bag. Bag. I have Fenty lip gloss in my bag. So how did I never think about this? Like, what did the name Fenty come from?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Her name. It's her name.

[A]

I could see some rock vibes, like guitar riffs, like, I don't know. She just is like a rock star.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

So. And I mean, some of her previous songs have had like a little. Some rock tone to it, but, like, I don't know. I don't think she's putting out a rock album, but I think that would be cool.

[B]

I think that there's going to be no genre.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think she's just going to, like, dabble in all these different things. I can't wait to see who she collabs with. I'm very excited for this whenever it may be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She'S just. She's like, you guys are way a little longer.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Okay, Raina. Let us know about your new dating app.

[B]

So Tessa has. Tessa brought this across my desk. And it is a new app. It's the protector app. You can hire a bodyguard in your city. And it's not available in all cities, but it is available in la.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And you go on and you make a profile and you say what you're looking for, and there are qualified protectors in your area.

[A]

Oh, my God. And so I saw this because girls were using it for Fashion Week. Right?

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

Yeah. I think I saw that some celebrities were, like, using. That's the first headline I saw about it. But I was like, oh, no.

[B]

So you can hire armed, qualified protectors for the day. So that makes sense. You would hire them temporarily. So you can hire them for, like, five hours to pick you up. And it's people that, you know, they're qualified. Eight out of ten are bald.

[A]

So you downloaded the app?

[B]

So I downloaded the app. Cause I was like, what's this about? Like, this is my exact prototype. I'm gonna be, like, super into these guys and I just wanna, like, see what they look like. Maybe hire one for the day. Of the six I'm looking at, four are bald.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you pick your area, and then when you go in, you can see them. And there's videos of each guy. No. They walk into the frame and they tell you their qualifications for protecting you.

[A]

This is better than any other dating app.

[B]

Way better. Okay, let's meet Jen. We have video. Video.

[A]

Are other dating apps even doing video?

[B]

Well, this isn't dating app. Is protector app.

[A]

Oh, right. Why this whole time? Like, this is revolutionary as a dating app.

[B]

It is so high quality. Wait till I show this to you. They walk into the frame and they're like, hi, I'm Jim. This is my history. This is what I can provide for you. And they're all highly qualified to protect you.

[A]

What an upgrade from TaskRabbit.

[B]

They all look.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, ready?

[A]

I'm Jim and I'm a protector. I spent a life of Service. I did 27 years with the Los Angeles Police Department, and prior to that, two years as a correctional officer with the Federal Bio prisons. In terms of my military career, I did 12 years of the United States Marine Corps in the scout sniper platoon.

[B]

Okay, so, okay, I'm literally hiring a bodyguard.

[A]

Like, I just want to hire one of these men.

[B]

There's a. There's a collage of photos so you can see them. They look very serious. There's tons of them. You can scroll through them all. All of them are bald, obviously.

[A]

Is that a requirement? You can't.

[B]

No, there's two.

[A]

Can you really take a bodyguard seriously with hair? Those pictures are porn, guys. All these sexy photos. He's, like, scaling.

[B]

Scaling a building. So that's Darko. He's sexy. You can find him in the LA area.

[A]

Has hair, which is immediately. I wasn't going to trust it, but now I do.

[B]

But they can do emergency medical. They're licensed. Okay, so when you are, you're going to die.

[A]

Raina's like, I need cpr, sir.

[B]

You're not even ready for.

[A]

You do you.

[B]

Okay, so you do book protector, and.

[A]

You say you saw someone. You knew your ex.

[B]

I was actually gonna send this to him and tell him to sign up for. No, we're not speaking terms. We're not mad at him. Okay, so you say, how do you want to. Okay. How many people need to be protected?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And how many protectees? And how many people need to be protected? So you can request a few bodyguards. Yeah, so, like, all three of us need like. Like, man on man, three people. Then you pick dress code, and they walk into the frame at. You can see them in every type of outfit.

[A]

Wait, is it, like, stripper vibes?

[B]

No, it's business formal.

[A]

I'm like construction worker. Okay.

[B]

I'm just trying to get to pick for show. Okay. Business formal. They walk into the frame in the outfits.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What? Business casual.

[A]

Business. I don't like business casual.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Looks like he's about to go present.

[B]

Like, tactical casual.

[A]

Oh, that looks my brother wears on the weekends. Operator 100% is just full military helmet and everything.

[B]

Okay, so that's. That's it. But you see every single man walk into the frame in all four outfits because you're just like, what I want to see him in.

[A]

Who invented this app? That's, like, the best thing I've ever seen.

[B]

And, like, the video quality is so high. You hear their voices, you see them move, you see them in different outfits. Like.

[A]

Like, why isn't Revolve doing that? Like, does Revolve have an app where people. I want to see what this looks like on somebody.

[B]

Once in a while, there's a video of people moving. But, like, rarely, I'm about to use this app to hire people to take me to the grocery store.

[A]

Honestly, we need it, which is a sad reality.

[B]

Yeah, they're just like, ma', am, what do you need this for? And I'm like, literally, no reason. I just want to hang out today.

[A]

Did anyone look kind of young they all seem a little. So the thing with this app is like they have like credentials.

[B]

Like they, they seem extremely qualified, but.

[A]

Like they've been in the military or they've been like a police officer, you know, like, it's not just like I'm a big scary dude, which is like my brother is like a big scary dude. I mean, you have him walking next to you, no one would would with you. But these people could. Like they know how to act if. Like they would know what to do if you were getting shot at, you know.

[B]

So they're all licensed to carry under the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act. It looks as though they all pick you up in a Suburban. So they have to have a certain type of car. You can choose the type of bodyguards you want, how they dress, et cetera. There's a membership fee and a rate to book the body. The bodyguard. But yes, they are highly qualified and they have backgrounds. There's background checks. They're licensed to carry firearms. I think it's only available in LA and New York right now.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. A newer service that business casual threw me. I'd always want someone in like a suit. A suit, right?

[B]

Like, yeah, the first one.

[A]

Yeah, the tactical casual or whatever. Business tactical casual, whatever, whatever that.

[B]

I mean the one of them looks like he's gonna. Getting ready to go drive a tank.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Like that's like scary vibes, you know, they're going to war.

[B]

I would make him wear that.

[A]

Ye.

[B]

Take me to the private store. I'm very turned on by this and I love it. And I'm gonna actively seek out times that I need a bodyguard.

[A]

Okay. I love it. Best of luck out there. I do want to know, like, I want to search for like younger. Like those guys all looked like what, 50 plus? They're probably retired, right?

[B]

Retired law enforcement. Retired from the army. Like this is just like something they're gonna do for some extra money on the side. They do look older. There was one or two guys.

[A]

Guys.

[B]

There's only six guys right there. So two of them looked in their late 30s, but that's the youngest.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well that's good. Yeah, you're like too old. Where's the 27 year olds?

[B]

I've listen most of my. They're 29.

[A]

I know. You know, you've been doing great.

[B]

I'm at a 42 year old that I was attracted to. Wow, how crazy.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so we're just gonna do a couple quick show updates, but really some interesting stuff about White Lotus and love is blind.

[B]

Yeah. So we. We've been gifted two episodes of White Lotus now. So really quick.

[A]

Because the theme song is such a main talking point. They played some of the theme song in that second episode.

[B]

I noticed that.

[A]

So what a rush. Like they. There's this moment when the really fucked up empty boyfriend dude is like doing the meditation and they play like 15 seconds of like the season two, I think.

[B]

Yeah, season two.

[A]

Season two theme song. I was like, oh my God. So maybe they're like gonna intersperse it throughout. But anyway, so I just wanted to give that quick. And you guys probably caught it. I mean, if you were paying attention, you caught it.

[B]

I really was like, maybe they are just gonna change the music out every time. Like I held out hope that this is not what we're doing.

[A]

This is it.

[B]

But my hopes were dashed. Okay, okay. So article came out this week. Mike White created the show, revealed he modeled the family in White Lotus after Bravo's Southern Charm.

[A]

What an absolute roast of Southern charm.

[B]

Not a compliment.

[A]

Like terrible family. That soulless family.

[B]

So he.

[A]

Except for maybe the daughter, he told.

[B]

The cast if they wanted some inspo for how to dress, how to move, how to talk, watch Southern Charm.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Absolutely crazy. And then the father said that he modeled his character off of Thomas Ravenel, a criminal. A criminal who was kicked off the show for allegedly sexually assaulting someone. He got a 21 year old pregnant on the show. I mean, a bad guy.

[A]

Can you. They look alike now to me. Like I can't unsee it. But now like also Parker Posey's character is the mom. It's like I can feel where she watched Patricia.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

And I love Patricia. And that's the best looking woman of a certain age I've ever seen. I don't know what she's had done, obviously full facelift. But like, you know, I'm a, I, I'm a, I'm a Patricia fan. But like you can't you tell? She kind of pulled from that probably.

[B]

So it is an extreme. I'm not comparing Whit Sutler Smith on Southern Charm to that terrible son.

[A]

I mean, that's not supposed to be horrible either.

[B]

No. But there does seem to be an extreme allegiance between the mom to the son on the show. No matter what he does, no matter how inappropriate he is. Which, I mean, Patricia rides hard for Whitney, no matter how bad his behavior is, no matter how nasty he is to everybody around him.

[A]

But I think she has a moral compass. Like what you see in Parker Posey's character is this mom who enables her son's predatory behavior. Those terrible guys who do bad things. And it doesn't always have to be, you know, the top level sexual assault, but, like, that do bad things and then they just talk about how much they love their mom. That's their mom.

[B]

Yeah, it's very much like, boys will be boys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just let them be how they are. When he walks in from the massage saying he wanted a happy ending, I mean, obviously they're building towards something that she's allowed all this behavior.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm very curious what they. They're building towards. You know, every episode you're reminded that there is, I don't wanna say like, a mass shooting, but they start the season with a lot of bullets going off. So it's like, who is spraying these bullets? Right. And, like, who's it gonna be? Is it the dad that's, like, clearly gonna go down for some huge financial thing? But, like, I'm just wondering, like, I'm just so curious what's gonna happen? Or is the youngest son, who is just seems to be really kind of chill and even, like, is he just gonna, like, snap?

[A]

He gives that look.

[B]

Yeah, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like they open the second episode with him waking up next to his brother who has slept butt naked above the covers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he doesn't sort of, like, emote about it, like.

[A]

Yeah, he's got a weird vibe.

[B]

Weird vibe.

[A]

Okay, I have a question for you about the three girls. Obviously, we love the storyline about the three friends and the one celebrity friend. So do you think that it's always gonna be two girls gossiping about the third, or do you think that. That Kate is spearheading the gossip and playing both sides and, like, that's the storyline because, like, Kate and Jacqueline talking about Laurie or Kate and Laurie talking about Jacqueline. And that's what we've seen so far. And I'm like, okay, well, if they're trying to show that, like, all women do is, like, talk about the person who's not in the room, then the next thing will be, like, Jacqueline and Laurie talking about Kate. But then I'm like, maybe Kate is kind of this, like, one that stirs the pot and, like, plays them against each other. I just find it fascinating as, like, female friendship dynamic.

[B]

I find the dynamics interesting, and I'm not sure, like, what's gonna happen. I think that they're all gonna talk about each other behind each other's back. I can't wait for the scene where it all explodes where they're all screaming at each other and hurling insults about. You've always been this way. Of course. This is how you. I mean, I'm, like, seething for. I can't wait.

[A]

And then the thing with the mom, with Parker Posey and the Kate character.

[B]

So I was curious what you thought was the background in that. Cause Parker Posey's having breakfast with her family, and that Kate woman walks over and is like, we met at this baby shower, and she just won't give her anything. She's just like, yeah, dude, cool. I'm, like, wondering what happened there. Did the husband have an affair with that woman?

[A]

Right. My immediate thought, she was like, I'm not friends with that woman anymore. Don't say her name to me. Yeah. So I'm just so enthralled with this season. I just love it so much.

[B]

You know what's so interesting? Cause I agree. I love it so much. And I saw somebody else on TikTok yesterday saying, like, nothing has happened in this show. It's so boring. And I'm like, that's. You're missing the point of White Lotus, which is just that. It's just character dynamics building to something. And you don't know what.

[A]

People say that every season. You're not that smart. I don't know what else to. If you don't sink, sink, like, I don't know what to do. That's fine. Not everybody is a big thinker.

[B]

Well, it reminds me of Anora, which is you. And I watched it, and I'm crazy about it. I'm nominated for all these awards. It's about a strip from Brooklyn that marries one of her clients, this Russian son of an oligarch. And somebody was saying. I was saying I loved the movie so much, and you. And I just thought it was so phenomenal. And my friend was like, but nothing really happens in the end. It just kind of ends. And I was like, that is not the point of this movie, to figure out what happens to her forever. It's this great story to me, and it's so exciting and interesting and shot so beautifully. Not everything has to necessarily have a clear point all the time.

[A]

Well, that's how a Real Pain ends. And I'm not gonna give it away, but I watched A Real Pain last night with Jesse Eisenberg and Kieran Culkin, and it ends in a certain way. And I read a. I don't want to give it away to you, but I read a quote from Jesse Eisenberg that said he would have made More if he would have ended it in a different way in like a more, I guess, happy ending type way. He was like, I had big time movie producers be like, if you just do this thing, this movie will be more of a blockbuster. And he was like, that's not the movie I want to make. Like, it leaves really. It ends very, like, kind of melancholy, open to interpretation, but, like, not, like, wrapped up in a bow. And so I think we're seeing more of that.

[B]

I think we are, too. And like, a complete unknown was like that, where they just kind of tell a very small slice of Bob Dylan's life. And there's no. Like, I even walked out and I was like, what? Asking myself, like, what was the point of that? What was the point? And I asked you about it. We talked about it, and I guess everybody, like, if there's a murder mystery and the whole movie is about who murdered somebody, I need to know, like, who the murderer was.

[A]

Yeah. That's why I don't like Unsolved Mysteries.

[B]

I hate Unsolved Mysteries. The title makes me not want to watch it, but I'm fine to, like, have something just stand on its own and be just sort of like a cultural representation of what was happening at the time.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a little bit of a happy ending girl. Not like that, but just like, speaking of White Lotus, but just I do kind of, like, I watch things to feel happy more than sad or confused. But, like, I respect the art and, like, not everything needs to be like that.

[B]

But White Lotus, I don't think that, like, I think you do get an ending eventually. And I think that, like, the show is about a lot, like, the dynamic of these three women that have sort of diverged in their paths, and they're just trying to figure out, like, do we have anything in common anymore? And we clearly hate each other. I just. I love it. I live for it.

[A]

Yeah, the three women, for sure.

[B]

Okay, and rounding it out, the newest episode, Drop of Love is Blind. We're finally out of the pods. We made it, you guys. We're on the honeymoons and then home. This season of Love is Blind. Listen, you guys, Ashley and I love this show so much. Like me, her, Tessa, we're obsessed with the show. This season has been a struggle for me.

[A]

If you want to say nothing's happening, then say it about love. Watch Lotus. Not watch Lotus.

[B]

I mean, I said to Ashley, I have watched 90 minutes of television, and all they have done is talk about each other's sleep habits. I mean, they have Nothing else to talk about. And I don't want to be like, these are the most boring people on earth because I think that well adjusted people make for bad tv.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I think the people that are dramatic and.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I think people that are securely attached, that just have normal, healthy relationships probably make for really bad television. And that could be what's going on here. But it's a tough watch this season. I mean, nothing is happening. It is just really polite and people hate Dave. And I just want to be the first one to say thank God for Dave. Dave has single handedly saved this season. He's the only reason a wild watch this season. Dave, I am so happy that you were born.

[A]

Dave's sex survey. Dave going around and asking everybody if they've had sex. First of all, that would be me. I'm dying to know who's fucking.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It would be less creepy from a woman.

[B]

Yeah, but like the other women, when.

[A]

He was doing it, I was like, he's still going with all the women. He's asking women and then what is he seeing if people will corroborate the story. He's asking people from the same couple. Did you find? Like, I was like, what is actually happening? But I was like, that would be me. If I was bored, I would be going up.

[B]

You guys fuck. Yeah. So yes, I agree. I want the gossip. And okay. I always have theories about like, what production has done to these people because like every season there is a couple that isn't having sex and that man is always asking the other ones, have you guys had sex?

[A]

Oh, right. Okay.

[B]

He is usually asking the other men, have you had sex? He's not surveying the women. But I wonder if like production just tells everybody to ask everybody. You guys fucking, Like, I wonder if somebody told Dave, like, this is normal. We always make them do it.

[A]

But it's also like, we always have to remember that these people are at these parties for what, like eight hours? You know, like they have so many conversations about everything. I mean, they really bonded with their fellow women or men in the pods. Again. Him asking the women was a little off putting to me. But like, I just think the yes. Production saw an opportunity to like to edit that all together and make him look a little crazy. But like, we have to remember on any show that those like parties last like so long and they only show you 15 minutes of it.

[B]

Also, they had nothing else to show. That part is my favorite thing every season. Because everybody gets a little too drunk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they get a little Too jealous and they go back to the rooms and fight. Yes, we always get the best insecure, half coherent fights after this party. It is my favorite episode always. No one was fighting. So all they had was Dave again to do the are you guys fucking montage.

[A]

And like I'm not a Dave apologist. I actually think Dave is like a walking red flag since day one. All the things he said that were joking were rooted in truth. I think he's got some misogyny for sure. And like what he's doing now with Lauren and like berating her about what she did before she came on the show is just so off putting to me. It's so slut shamey and like she's staying up for herself and I love to see it and she needs to get out of that relationship. I really don't like what I'm seeing.

[B]

So I think this is manufactured. I don't think that he actually cares that much. I think that he has his sister cares. I don't think she cares either. And here's my theory. So if you guys aren't caught up, basically, Lauren had had a situationship for.

[A]

Two months with somebody they're friends with, benefits.

[B]

Yes. Nobody's serious. She even says on camera, he doesn't mean anything to me. It's nothing like I'll tell him to not talk to me. And Dave cannot let this go that up until leaving for production that she was dating somebody. And by the way, not Daniel sleeping with somebody. By the way, these people probably sign up for the show six months before it films. You don't know if you're ever going to get cast. And when you get cast you don't know you're going to meet somebody fuck until you feel like it.

[A]

Right? Like. And I've seen some comments of like if the roles were reversed, we'd be villainizing Dave. What? I don't care if you fuck someone the morning you left for the show. Like we haven't met yet. Like you need to sex detox before going on a game show. Like what is he? I don't here you weren't ready for it. You doing are. What are you talking about? I don't understand the mentality. Like I don't care who you before we met and you fell for me. I obviously had a long term relationship and there's still feelings there. Whatever. Like I had a one night stand what two weeks before I met my now fiance. It could have been one week before, it could have been the day before. It didn't mean I Wasn't ready to meet him and fall in love with him and marry him. But it just, I don't like what he's doing. It's coming across slut shaming. Like, my friends know about this and my sister knows about this. And again, it could be manufactured. But like, I just don't like this whole thing that she was fucking somebody right before she came on the show where she never even met him. And he's kind of saying that that means she's not, she wasn't ready to be in a relationship.

[B]

That's false, by the way. It's worse if it's manufactured. Cause you're still making her feel terrible and you don't care. But I was originally when I first started watching this in the camp of like, well, if this was a guy who went on the show and his partner found out that he was seeing somebody semi regularly until they met them, I understand somebody being like that makes me a little uncomfortable. They live in the building. I have to see this person. And I think people would be carrying torches, like, kill him. But I do think that you have a normal, rational conversation with your very new partner. I understand. And just say like, this doesn't mean anything and that should be the end of it.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, it just, it, it just depends. I mean like, I think Lauren's telling the truth. But if it truly was just like a friend with benefits, like, yes, we hate when people go on these shows and they had a full blown girlfriend and they tell them like, just wait till I'm out kind of thing. But like, if it was just a guy you would fuck around with and you really were like, okay, well this is over now I'm going on the show. Or you could be like, if it doesn't work out, I'll be back. Like, I don't know. I. This isn't. Wasn't like a secret boyfriend to me. Like we see a lot with guys going on the show who like had full relationships.

[B]

I just wonder how much he's lying because I feel like he's lying. He said before that he has a hard time trusting that anybody likes him for him. Which to me that says a really avoidant person that manufactures ways to push you away from them. And this feels like a very manufactured way to test your boundaries and what you're willing to stick around for. But he is like hell bent on telling her this story that his friends don't trust her and they're mad at him about, find me a man on planet Earth that cares about that.

[A]

It's. Well, men who are like, super conservative and they wanna think you're like, pure. They do. I mean, I don't know for sure, but I don't think it's manufactured. Cause of necessarily the reason you do. I do think some guys are like, like, whoa, you're like tainted. Like, I was not sleeping with anybody. Weeks, months, up until the show because I wanted to meet somebody. And you're no longer pure to me.

[B]

So they have sort of teased future episodes where he says, it's been a while since I've had sex. I haven't been dating. Like, he may have those ideals. Maybe you write, and it's this terrible group of guys. I just. I can't imagine guys being like, I won't even meet her. I can't stand to be in the same room as her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because of this thing, she, like, what's it to you? What do you care? And then if that's who he's surrounded by, I guess his sister could be similar. Like, I find it hard to believe that his sister's like, I can't believe you met a person on a dating show. You're such a scumbag. Cause like, that girl must be crazy and attention seeking. Maybe if this was eight, ten years ago. But there's so much of this in the world where people go on these dating shows and meet people and it does work out. It's not so crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just, I don't think that, that it's. It has to be false. Like, I do think there's guys out there, like, that could get each other all worked up and like, oh, my gosh, she was Jason until right before she left. What a slut. You know, and that's why it's coming across slut shaming to me.

[B]

Oh, it's very slut shaming. Whether he means it or not.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's horrible.

[A]

Yeah. Like, let it go. I think she should run for the hills.

[B]

I really, I felt for her. I'm impressed by her. In the season that she. In that scene, he was. His friends were going to come over and she was just like, do I get to have a voice in. In this ever? Do I get to stand up for myself? I do hope she just sort of walks away from this and just. I don't know what else he wants her to say to him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's nothing else she's gonna be able to say. You have to just decide to get over it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we did get a little bit of drama from Sarah and Ben, finally. Okay, so tell me what you think about the scene. So Sarah and Ben are sitting on their couch, and they have been, like, so cute the whole time. First couple, didn't get engaged. Second couple, whatever.

[A]

They're cute.

[B]

They seem to really like each other. They just, like. They laugh at each other's jokes.

[A]

Sarah can do better, but.

[B]

But, yeah, I think they're very cute together. Whatever. He gets up to get a drink, and she looks at her phone for one second and goes, oh, my God.

[A]

You are so funny. Like, you don't know how it all works. And gets edit together. Raina's like, this is reality. This is reality.

[B]

It happened way in that day. Edited it. It was so funny because he gets up and she's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, they don't show her watching it. They've edited it as though she. It looks like she made it up and she'd been holding onto this for a couple days. Anyways, I guess. There's a video on TikTok of some woman saying she previously dated him. And she's crying, and she doesn't name him, but says they've cast him like, real scumbags on the show. And then he tells a tale.

[A]

He just lies through his teeth. Like, we see men lie all the time on TV and in real life. But I feel like she's asking him questions, and he's like, wheels are turning out. How to lie to her about. About kind of innocuous stuff, about when this ended. Did he ghost her? Did he. Has he talked to her? Like you're watching. Watching him, I feel like create like you're. I feel like you're watching him lie in real time. Oh, totally.

[B]

What's the point of the lie?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. What did I miss here? Like, everyone's dealt with bad behavior from a guy. Obviously. There's a huge spectrum. I'm not. I don't know what he did. Is he a bad. Is he terrible guy, or is he just, like, ghosted someone? And she's looking for a little bit of fame, too. A little bit of clout, too.

[B]

I'm. I'm curious. She doesn't name him or say what he does. I mean, I do think that people are entitled. I'm not being an apologist for him, but I think that if this really was four years ago, people are entitled to grow up, learn better behavior, find the right partner you want to change for, meet a person you want to lean in for. And, yeah, Maybe you. I mean, there's people that have had bad experiences with me. I'm not a bad partner to the people I choose to be a partner to. So I don't really know what it is and what's happening here, but his total refusal to just be honest is why I would be out. She's just like, just be honest with me.

[A]

I think it's just tough, like, all of it. You know, you, like. Like, no one's really prepared for this type of scenario, and you get out and people are making tiktoks, and you're supposed to be with this guy. I mean, that, like, hits you like, a punch in the gut when you, like, see something about your partner on the Internet. You know what I mean? And you're not used to it. It's never happened to you before. I mean, obviously, like, famous people deal with that all the time, but these people aren't accustomed to it.

[B]

I think she dealt with a great. I think she was just like, I need you to be honest with me.

[A]

And I don't want to do my doppelgangers. Okay. So I feel like they're not as good as past years. I'm gonna do them. I have a.

[B]

It's like the past seasons. That's because you just. Bad season.

[A]

Yeah. Every looks the same. Yeah. No, I. I have a talent for doing Love is Blind doppelgangers and who they look like. Okay. So I'm gonna do this season. Dave and Daniel look so much like people. I know that it's crazy, but you guys wouldn't get it, so I can't put their picks up. So just. Just know that it's uncanny. Okay. Okay.

[B]

So just know that I was right.

[A]

Devin is Keegan, Michael, Key, and Peele.

[B]

I'm looking at all your time. Yes. Okay.

[A]

Devin is. Is key of Key and Peel. Okay. Alex is Ben Higgins meets Nick Vile. Do you see it?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Mason, you're not gonna see this one coming. Mason, you gotta dig deep for it. But it is Teemu. Andrew Schultz waltz.

[B]

Let me zoom in on his face.

[A]

Also, Azul without underbite. He has such an underbite. I'm like, is this a zool.

[B]

Okay, I see. I see what you're. I see what you're putting down.

[A]

Molly again, no longer on the show, but she'll. She'll come back. She's Teemu. Isla Fisher.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

Also, she gives, like, Daisy Jones.

[B]

I. She has, like, spicy red hair. She's just fun.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Taylor, you say Naomi from Southern Charm.

[B]

Dead rare.

[A]

I think nit mixed with little Jennifer Lawrence.

[B]

Oh, who could see that?

[A]

Okay, Joey, you say Trevor Lawrence, which is the former Clemson quarterback. I think he's Travis Birkenstock from Clueless mixed with, hear me out, a little splash of Gronk.

[B]

Gronk's body.

[A]

He's got a little meatheady body vibes a little bit.

[B]

That guy's the biggest neck I've ever seen.

[A]

But he's also got that, like, skater boy haircut. Okay, and this one, this might be controversial, but Lauren is Pam from the Office.

[B]

I do see Pam from the Office. Yes. It's.

[A]

Tess is, like, nodding her head.

[B]

Well, it's like a thing on the Internet that they're like. It is.

[A]

Lauren and Dave are like, Pam and Roy.

[B]

Like, they're, like, making those comparisons.

[A]

He is royal. Wait, I. I didn't even see that.

[B]

So there's like. I've seen, like, articles about it. Like, it's in my TikTok. Like, that was like. Because, like, she gives Pam, like, she is, like, it's very.

[A]

Like, as you hear voice, her voice.

[B]

To me is very. I mean, I'm looking at her headshot from the show and, like, the hair is a dead ringer from when Pam actually got a haircut on the show, like, season five.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yes. Pam and Pam and Roy was a good call.

[A]

I don't know Roy.

[B]

Roy was who she was engaged to while Jim was in love with her.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait, that's Dave. So Dave is Roy. Roy is Dave. Finkle is Einhorn.

[B]

Roy would be so pissed if he met a woman that was sleeping with somebody up until they met. Like, he is so toxic.

[A]

Oh, my God. Okay, we got there, you guys. Damn, we ended strong.

[B]

I'm excited for the next couple episodes to unfold.

[A]

Yes. Oh, my gosh. Thank you guys for listening. You can check us out atgirls gotta eat dot com. We are girls gotta Eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. Check out our fun reels. Check out our cabinet pics. Those have been taking off on the reels. I am Ash Hess on Instagram/hess.com on tours. You can get tickets there. Raina is raina.greenberg. subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

[B]

Have a good weekend, guys.

[A]

Bye, Sam.