The Snack: Golden Globes, Big D*ck Slander, and Cher vs. Dax

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat – The Snack: Golden Globes, Big D*ck Slander, and Cher vs. Dax

Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg

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Episode Overview

This week's "Snack" is a classic Girls Gotta Eat blend: irreverent pop culture commentary, reality TV obsessions, viral headline debates, and comedic deep-dives into celebrity drama—plus an unflinching segment on current events. Ashley and Rayna unpack the recent Golden Globes ceremony, viral "big d*ck" lawsuit drama, a splash of mom group intrigue, the ongoing Mormon Wives TV saga, and the Cher vs. Dax Shepard social spat, all with their signature candor, wit, and chemistry.

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Golden Globes Breakdown

[03:41–15:44]

Hosts, Highlights, and Performances

• Nikki Glaser hosted for the second consecutive year, delivering an “unbelievable” performance, including a sharp Epstein joke and digs at CBS.
  • "She opened with a really strong Epstein joke... A-listers. A list. Epstein. That was been redacted. It was a really funny joke." – Ashley [03:52]
• Noted that some Globes attendees braced for impact during Glaser’s jokes, with comedians like Kevin Hart “ready to laugh,” while others appeared tense.

Notable Wins & Fashion Commentary

• Amy Poehler took home a podcasting award for “Good Hang.” Hosts predicted her rise as “the new queen bee of podcasting.”
  • "I've been saying she is going to be the new queen bee of podcasting based on the numbers of that show alone." – Ashley [06:39]
• "When she thanked her agent, I was like, oh, there he is... Get us on Good Hang." – Rayna & Ashley [07:33]
• Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet: Hosts loved their “static” table energy—never leaving their seats as celebs visited, and gushed over Kylie’s outfit for being both visually and physically striking.

Memorable Moments

• Rose Byrne’s green dress stood out amid a sea of black/silver, especially with her quirky red-carpet confession about her husband's absence (at a reptile expo).
  • "My husband couldn't be here because we got, what, a baby dragon. He's at a reptile expo in New Jersey." – Rose Byrne quote, as recalled by Ashley [10:08]
• “The straights have got to stop.” – referencing bizarre celebrity spouse behavior [10:15]
• Criticism against those chastising Hailee Steinfeld for which event she attended.
  • "Who are you people? ... No matter what you do, people are going to have something to say about your relationship." – Ashley [11:22, 11:29]

Epic Flop

• UFC Cameo: Branded the segment “so forced, so awkward”; the audience didn’t respond and the deal’s commercial motives were transparent.
  • "Who had to come up with that? … this is so bad, but we have to do it?" – Ashley [12:53]

Food

• Noted the improvement from previous years’ “Whole Foods snack plates” to this year’s Nobu menu.
  • "It was two bushels of grapes. It was three different kinds of crackers. It was old, sweaty cheese. I mean, it was crazy." – Rayna [14:45]

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Reality TV & Streaming Chat

[15:56–29:00]

Show Categories Confusion

• Riffed on Emmy/Golden Globe oddities: "The Bear" in Comedy, "White Lotus" in Drama.
  • "If I'm watching The Bear, I'm crying or I'm having a panic attack. ... White Lotus feels more comedy than The Bear." – Ashley [15:26]

Medical Dramas & ‘The Pit’

• Neither are into hospital-based dramas, expressing squeamishness: "I don't want to see the hospital. That's not a setting I like." – Ashley [17:01]

‘Traitors’ & ‘Tell Me Lies’

• Dished on physical challenges for older contestants in “Traitors” (Donna Kelce): "This feels like, physically not capable for, like, not safe for people of a certain age." – Rayna [18:46]
• Ecstatic for “Tell Me Lies” season three, recalling the “most deranged episode of television in history” [19:47].

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Mom Groups & Celebrity Friendship Drama

[23:24–29:27]

The Ashley Tisdale ‘Cut’ Article Fallout

• Discussed Ashley Tisdale’s op-ed on mom group breakdowns and the ensuing “who’s who” speculation.
  • "You kind of have to know that if you're a celebrity of any kind and you write about a friend group breakup, people are going to be like: Who are the friends?" – Rayna [23:49]
• The “husband clapback” by Hilary Duff's partner, Matthew Koma, calling Tisdale "self-obsessed" and "tone-deaf,” dissected.
  • "He just called Ashley Tisdale self obsessed." – Ashley [26:17]
• Weighed in on whether partners should intervene online.
  • "I'd be like, babe, do not – stop. This looks so petty. ... let's not roll around in the mud." – Rayna [28:57]
• Real-life hopes the stars “make up to play us in a movie.” [29:09]

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‘Mormon Wives’ (MomTok) Deep Dive

[29:27–43:48]

Reality TV as Empowerment

• Ashley binge-watched “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.” Both hosts assert the show’s significance for empowering women, despite its TikTok-dance surface-level appearances.
  • "It is an empowering show for women." – Ashley [31:54]
• Discussed religion as identity and community, not just practice, e.g., Mormon/Jewish parallels [33:31].
• Noted the complexities of major cast members’ development, especially Taylor Frankie Paul and her journey from instability to growth and leadership.

Power Rankings (Ashley’s List)

• Bottom: Demi (“is she the worst villain on reality TV?”) [35:42]
• Top: Jessie (“my queen... honest, baddest businesswoman”) [39:05–40:09]
• Discussion about male partners as background/support, and abuses/misbehavior from husbands off-screen.

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Viral “Big D*ck Slander” Lawsuit

[43:51–48:08]

The Lawsuit

• Influencer Haley Khalil’s public comments about ex-husband Matt’s anatomy (“the size of two Coke cans”) have led to his legal action for defamation.
• Debate: Is publicizing an ex’s body fair game, especially if the comments are technically “positive” but still invasive?
  • "Can you stop talking about my dick? Like, I thought we were cool, but maybe they weren’t cool." – Ashley [45:01]
• Acknowledged the double standard—if a man joked about a woman’s body, the fallout would be significant.
• "You would know I'm a comedian. You would know that. That's going to be the headline I'm going on every podcast as I'm talking." – Ashley [46:45]
• Explored boundaries of “sexual sovereignty” in storytelling, with humor:
  • "You better learn up on sexual sovereignty right now. It's like, sexual sovereignty. Remember it. For the tour." – Ashley [48:19]

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Cher vs. Dax Shepard (Plus Kristen Bell)

[48:53–53:19]

The Viral Dig

• Cher made a pointed, if light-hearted, remark on Armchair Expert about Dax’s suitability for Kristen Bell.
• Dax’s “arrogant” demeanor came under fire from Ashley, especially in interviews about their marriage, which is painted as more difficult than perhaps necessary.
  • "He talks about their relationship like he's the prize, and I hate that." – Ashley [49:55]
  • "They're that couple that's like, marriage is so hard ... and it's torture every day, but I love you. Like, they're the epitome of that." – Ashley [50:54]
• Rayna raises the question of “what’s the point?” when airing this level of private relationship drama.
  • "You think it's funny on a public platform, but ... all people hear is you kind of dragging your wife." – Rayna [52:14]

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Spencer Pratt for LA Mayor

[53:19–54:49]

• The hosts express bemusement but amusement over the reality TV star’s mayoral candidacy.
  • "I don't know. Who’s to say everything's a mess? I don't know." – Ashley [54:34]
• Neutral-to-skeptical stance, with Rayna saying she'll "do her own research" since “TikTok hasn’t told me what I think yet.” [54:29]

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Minneapolis - Renee Goode Execution & Host’s Reflections

[55:04–59:27]

• Transitioned to a somber current event: the execution of Renee Goode in Minneapolis.
• Both hosts express outrage, grief, and concern over governmental response and failure to protect.
  • "It raised a lot of really painful questions about how power is being used and what people are... who gets to be defended." – Ashley [56:47]
  • "We are underreacting to what's happening in this country." – Rayna [57:23]
• Stressed the power of community, hope, and collective support despite feeling “bleak” about the state of the world.

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Notable Quotes & Funniest Moments

• On the pressure cooker disaster:
  "Who knows how to use a pressure cooker? That’s insane. That’s like asking me to use heavy machinery." – Ashley [01:59]
• On the UFC at Golden Globes:
  "Do you think the writers in the room were like, this is so bad, but we have to do it?" – Ashley [12:53]
• On Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet:
  "She is suctioned into that. She looked phenomenal." – Rayna [08:02]
• On relationship drama:
  "If you publicly dragged my wife... I want my partner to back me up in private and let me speak in public." – Rayna [27:46]
• On televised violence:
  "This is not America ... they let one thing like this happen, there’s just going to be more and it’s terrifying." – Rayna [57:23]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Golden Globes Recap: [03:41–15:44]
• Reality TV/Streaming: [15:56–29:00]
• Mom Group Drama: [23:24–29:27]
• Mormon Wives Deep Dive: [29:27–43:48]
• Big D*ck Slander Lawsuit: [43:51–48:08]
• Cher vs. Dax/Kristen Bell: [48:53–53:19]
• Spencer Pratt for Mayor: [53:19–54:49]
• Minneapolis and Reflections: [55:04–59:27]

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Tone & Delivery

The episode is punchy, personal, and unfiltered, with both hosts moving quickly from biting wit to insightful (and emotional) reflection, creating a podcast episode that moves seamlessly from Super Bowl snacks to deeper social conversations. The Girls Gotta Eat brand of comedic intimacy shines throughout, making even the hardest topics feel accessible, and the pop culture coverage is as thorough as it is irreverent.

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For those who missed the episode:
This Snack was an all-you-can-eat pop culture buffet—from Golden Globes snark and penis-lawsuit debate to reality TV power rankings, celebrity feuds, and reflections on political tragedy. The laughs are big, the opinions are strong, and the friendship runs deep.

Transcript

[A]

This week on the snack, the Golden Globes, Big dick slander and mom drama continues.

[B]

This is a Dear media production.

[A]

Enjoy.

[B]

Not the big dick slander.

[A]

Can you imagine?

[B]

I know. I cannot wait to talk about it. Hi, guys.

[A]

Hi.

[B]

So the Eagles are. Season's over. They lost to the 49ers. Was a heartbreaking loss. But I don't know, for people who have been on this journey and it's been a lot of ups and downs, I think there's a sense of relief, like, we're. We're done. We're not just stressed like this anymore.

[A]

I don't really feel like that about the Steelers because I just know they're gonna lose.

[B]

Yeah. So this is a little in advance, but the names tonight, which I dressed for it, apparently. I didn't mean to. And you're gonna have some people over.

[A]

Brittany texted me and was like, can we come over? Because she's been packing. And I was like, yeah, come over. And then I texted you. And then I went to Whole foods and spent $125 like this. Like, it's the Super Bow we hosted.

[B]

For the Eagles game. And my husband, Chunky, wanted to make these birria tacos. We got an insta pot for Christmas from my brother and Steph, and, I mean, he went all out. He spent over a hundred bucks on all the stuff. We went to this Mexican grocery store, and. Yeah, again, it was so much to.

[A]

Do for five people. Listen, he is so funny to me. This is the second time he has created a whole food project and then kicked it off to you.

[B]

That's not really fair.

[A]

He did.

[B]

He did do it. He did 99% of it. But he had to go do this thing. And I can't say it. He has some family members who are competing in a thing that's literally. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say that, but if it. If it airs and I can tell you guys about it, I will. But he went to, like, a taping thing. I came here. He wasn't home. I said, everyone come over at 1. It was 1:50. He wasn't home. I'm like, texting him, do you want me to put the meat in the pot?

[A]

And we had to facetime your brother to figure out how to use a pressure cooker.

[B]

And I still didn't do it right. I still didn't lock it all the way.

[A]

Who knows how to use a pressure cooker? That's insane. That's like asking me to use, like, heavy machinery.

[B]

Know how to Use. They're so scary.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

They. They really are. But the. The birria was incredible. Yeah. I think he has a few tweaks, Maybe a little more salt. Yes, Salt.

[A]

But he packed tacos up for me to take home, and he packed a little birria sauce on the side for me.

[B]

The salt is a real issue in our house.

[A]

It is.

[B]

It's you. You know me. I don't. You're heavy on the salt. I'm on the other side of the sector. You really are. And I'm pretty. I'm probably pretty centrist, but he's, like, sometimes not enough. And so I'm in there over his shoulder, fucking salting his shit.

[A]

You were.

[B]

So we'll get there.

[A]

I like a lot of salt.

[B]

So what are we having at your place?

[A]

I really went crazy. I obviously got a charcuterie board. So I have three types of cheese and prosciutto and some, like, crackers and shit like that. I got shrimp cocktail. I got two kinds of, like, pasta salads, and I got sushi.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I want people to feel like they got food. You know, you go to parties like this sometimes and you're like, all I ate was dip and cheese. And I feel sick.

[B]

Yes. And you can really only graze on the charcuterie board so long.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even that it starts to be like, I've had everything on this six times.

[A]

When you and I used to get off stage and just house a charcuterie.

[B]

Board, I was swollen. Take it to the face.

[A]

We had to tell them to please stop giving us charcuterie board. Yes.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

And thank you to AG1. Go to drink ag1.comGGE to get a free AG1 duffel bag and welcome kit with your first subscription order. Okay, so, yes, Heartbreaking loss for the eagles, but I guess we'll see what happens tonight. And right after that game, we watched the Golden Globes.

[A]

So this is our Golden Globe report.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

So Nikki hosted for the second year in a row. Looked flawless.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Unbelievable. She was great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't know that we were gonna get a song. We had a song again this year.

[B]

Oh, I knew we would. You did well. She's gonna do a song. Okay. Multi hyphen it. So she opened with a really strong Epstein joke. I thought that was a great joke on the people in the room being on a list. A listers. A list. Epstein. That was been redacted. It was a really funny joke. And then all these shots at cbs, and I was like, wait. I was like, this can't be on cbs. Like, when I was hearing the jokes, I was like, oh, I guess this is on NBC. I hadn't looked. I was like. It took me a minute to realize she's making the jokes on cbs. On cbs, which obviously I appreciate even more. But I was a little surprised she did that. They let her do that, I guess. Yeah. I loved it. I love that CBS needs to be put on blast.

[A]

I mean, I think that there wasn't a lot of political stuff in the opening speech, so, like, that's where they got their kind of shots in. I think that obviously wintertime's not tough these days, so it's hard to not make it that whole. The whole speech.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But it's not really her content. A lot of political stuff.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, like, historically, how hard they go. I mean, it's. It is. Everything feels disjointed for, like, what's going on in the world and, like, to be, like, laughing and celebs and red carpets and stuff like that. And of course, some celebs went pretty hard on the red carpet. Mark Ruffalo on, like, Minneapolis and everything that's happening. And Jean Smart, I think she went off on the red carpet. So when she won her award, she just circled back and was like. I said, I need to say, please be good people. Just try. And then a few others. But I really thought that was so funny. I laughed out loud at Nikki B. Jerkin. So. So first of all, she says, Michael B. Jordan played two brothers. And then she was like, can I say that? Which I, like, laughed so hard. And then she said, like, Nikki B. Jerking. And I just. I love watching as soon as she mentioned someone's name and the camera goes to them and how they react, because most of these people look so uncomfortable. What do you think she's going to do? This is not a roast. You know, like, they just. They brace for impact every single.

[A]

But they take themselves.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. But some of them don't. And obviously, the comedians, Kevin Hart and, like, the Rock is fine. Claire Danes, she was, like, ready to laugh. I loved her reaction. And, like, Michael B. Jordan looked fine, but some of the other ones, they look so tense. It's so embarrassing. What do you think she's gonna say? Sean Penn he didn't even see that coming.

[A]

He really caught astray. Poor Sean Penn.

[B]

I don't even know if I'd say caught astray. She went. She went in, no lube. Why?

[A]

I mean, it was just like, what did he ever do to anybody? I mean, she really. She brought up Charlie Sheen. She called him a leather handbag, and.

[B]

He just took it.

[A]

He was right in the front, too. Like, what did he do to Nikki? Sweet little old Sean.

[B]

We loved everything she did. It was the first year for podcasting, and Amy Poehler won for her podcast Good Hang. And I've been saying this. I wish I would have said out loud. I have been saying she is going to be the new queen bee of podcasting based on the numbers of that show alone. And she gets all the hugest celebs that the other huge shows get. But I think it's a more fun interview. And these clips are so viral, and people really love her and open up to her, and she. I think she brings out their humor. I've, like, been saying this, that, like, this is the biggest podcast now, I think. I think it's going to be, like, the truly the biggest podcast. And then for it to win that award for him, for her to win the award over her ex, which you love to see it.

[A]

I just. I love to see her career continue in this way, too, because I think you think people are like, okay, she's. I mean, obviously she's produced movies and acted in movies. She's done sitcoms for so long. But to pivot into podcasting and to be the biggest one, I mean, I just love it. And we have the same agent, so we're basically the same.

[B]

When she thanked her agent, I was like, oh, there he is.

[A]

There he is.

[B]

Get us on. Good.

[A]

Hang on. I would love that. So that was great. There was just, like, some really fun moments. Can I tell you what I love, year after year is watching Kylie and Timo just sit at the table and hold court. They never get up.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

People just come over and over and over. Elle Fanning came over and Jennifer Lawrence. People sit down with them. They do not get up. They are not like, they're not being rude. I don't think Kylie can get up in that outfit.

[B]

Yeah. And I mean that respectfully. Like, she is suctioned into that. She looked phenomenal.

[A]

My favorite dress of the night.

[B]

And then at one point, Right, he got up. I think he had to. I think he had to go accept his award. And did you see this from the back? So he had his hand on her waist and then he. He had his hand, like, kind of on her butt. And he pushed up on her butt to get up. Like, he used it as a cushion to push. Like, Shashank couldn't even grab.

[A]

Like, he wouldn't even.

[B]

His hand would slip if he tried to put his hand on my butt. Like, I was. It was a cushion.

[A]

Love it. I love her body and her dress. She just looked amazing. But every year, it makes me laug. They're not being rude. People just want to come over, kiss the ring. I guess they're just. They're there looking amazing. He is aging backwards. He is Benjamin buttoning. I mean, every year he looks younger.

[B]

He looks 12. Like, I. I don't know. I don't think I could. That guy. I'd be like, I'm. I'm a pedo. Like, he looks so young.

[A]

Every year, I swear to God, he gets younger.

[B]

He looks younger than Nick Jonas, which is saying something that is also like a baby face who just doesn't like the way whatever's going on in his face. He literally just. They look 12.

[A]

No, he doesn't look like he should.

[B]

Be able to vote.

[A]

And she's this, like, curvy mom of two. She looks like an adult.

[B]

Yeah. The same with Priyanka Chopra.

[A]

Like, it just match.

[B]

I've always felt like those couples look so off to me, but I don't think Kylie's not going to get up and make the rounds. Like, it's just such a interesting observation that they just sit.

[A]

They just sit. I think they're being rude. I think people just want to come over, and I think they support each other in, like, a really beautiful way. She is obviously not in this world, but she's a billionaire and a huge mogul in her own right. And they really, like, show up for each other in a nice way. I just like watching it. Okay. My other favorite moments were I liked watching Rose Byrne on the carpet. Cause she had this green dress, and they zoomed out to the whole carpet, and everybody is in black and silver and she sticks out like you just saw her. And our friend Taylor, who does, like, great roundups, Taylor Frost at fashion, she was like, that's a winner's dress. Like, you just. You saw her in a sea of black. And then she got on stage. And one of my most favorite moments is she won. And she said, my husband couldn't be here because we got, what, a baby dragon. He's at a reptile expo in New Jersey.

[B]

I saw. I think It Was it Blakely Thorne. I don't want to misspeak, but someone was like, the straights have got to stop.

[A]

That is the craziest answer for why your husband could not be there to watch you accept a Best Actress award. You didn't hate.

[B]

So weird. I didn't hate. I. I think they're so weird. I think that was so weird. Like, I wish. Like, she looks so gorgeous. And then it was like, what is this? It's like, are we doing reptilian fashion? Is that the green dress?

[A]

Like, it's a nod to the reptile Expo in New Jersey that her husband's at.

[B]

Is it really? No. I don't know. I just said that. Is it true?

[A]

No. I'm making this up.

[B]

That's why she was.

[A]

But she did get on stage and say, my husband can't be here because this is dumb Fucking Expo in New Jersey.

[B]

No, like, literally, it's like, straight white people have to be stopped.

[A]

Okay. What do you think about this relationship, though? Because, like, do you think. I think this is, like, an amazing relationship. Because she's like, just go do your little reptile thing. Like, she's like, I don't know. I can't decide. I feel about it. I love when partners show up for each other. Things are really important and beautiful. Nice to watch, and it's meaningful, but I don't know. I can't decide what it says about their relationship.

[B]

I think it's fine. I guess I just don't care. But people were saying people were criticizing Haley Steinfeld for not being at Josh Allen's game.

[A]

She was on the red.

[B]

She was in Sinners. I mean, she should be. Her movie that she's in was nominated. She should be there.

[A]

That's insane. Who are you people? I guess you're right to your point. We're going to talk about Dax Shepard later, but, like, no matter what you do, people are going to have something to say about your relationship.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And I think their relationship. Because she wouldn't have said that if she didn't think it was funny and happy. Yeah.

[B]

Yes, totally. Damn if you do. Damn it if you don't. Worst part of the night. UFC cameo, without a doubt.

[A]

How much should they pay to do.

[B]

So the ufc, this, basically right before the heated rivalry stars came out, they were like, these next presenters are so hot, they're gonna need security. And they play this, like, UFC music and the lights, and then these two fighters. I don't know ufc, so I don't know. They are, like, as big in that world, whatever they come out, it was so forced. It was so awkward. No one understood or clapped or cheered or whatever. Like, I feel like our Ilia and Shane did not deserve that. And it's. The deal has been signed by Paramount, making the network, CBS, the home for all UFC events. $7 billion deal. Blech. And so all of the 20, 26 UFC events and fight nights will be available to stream on Paramount Plus. So that's why they obviously, you know, that was like, you knew that was something part of the deal. Yeah, but it was just like, who had to come up with that? And do you think they were like, oh, we're gonna eat with this? We're gonna have it be like, the heated rivalry stars and needs bodyguard. Because there's. Do you think some. Do you think whoever came up with that, the writers in the room were like, this is so bad, but we have to do it? Or do you think they were like, we're gonna cook with this?

[A]

I think some people thought they were really gonna cook. This is so outside of the box.

[B]

And it's.

[A]

It felt really misplaced and weird. And no one was like, look, they.

[B]

Just did that and not the right type of room.

[A]

Yeah, the room felt really weird. It's just the lights.

[B]

Those aren't UFC people, you know? Like, it was just weird. I hated it.

[A]

Also, Nikki could have come out in another beautiful gown and just said something sweet or cute or funny and just intro them, and I would have liked it more.

[B]

Yes. So they really, I mean, have been on just a rocket ship to fame. Like, no one really knew of these actors a month ago or two months ago, what Connor's story was like. I was waiting tables six months ago or whatever he said. I don't want to misquote him, but, yeah, like, I would have loved to hear Nikki speak on heated rivalry, not the fucking ufc.

[A]

Can you imagine the jokes about heated rivalry? We were robbed of the jokes about heated rivalry.

[B]

So that sucked.

[A]

That sucked. And then the only other things I have. I loved watching the boy from All Her Fault on the red carpet. He was so cute. Little tux. His little blue tux. And Teyana Taylor gave this really beautiful and passionate speech. And before that, she said, wait until you see the party in the back of my dress. She's made me laugh.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

She this little, like, rhinestone bow tie in the back.

[B]

She like a whale tail. And it was like what Kim would wear in All's Fair, which Tiana Taylor was also in All's Fair. Like, that's What? It's like the designer. Yeah.

[A]

And then my last thing was the food. I don't know if you saw the food, but the Critics Choice Awards got a lot of blowback for the food that they decided to serve last week, which was just like, Whole Foods snack plate. And they did Nobu last night.

[B]

They did.

[A]

They did three pieces of sushi, little sashimi, a little salad, a little piece of miso, black cod food. Not a lot of food, but it looked lovely.

[B]

That's what people. That's the amount of food they want to eat.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Like, you know you're gonna get roasted if you serve people this snack plate that looks like you get it in a box on a flight.

[A]

It was two bushels of grapes. It was three different kinds of crackers. It was old, sweaty cheese. I mean, it was crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Nobu.

[A]

Nice. Nobu. They got Nobu. So those are my notes on the globes. It was great.

[B]

I just have two quick things. One battle after another. And adolescence swept a lot of the awards. I haven't seen either of those, so I just didn't care about that. I think Sinners was robbed. And can I tell you something that I think will break your brain? That White Lotus is in the drama category and the bear is in comedy. My mind has always been blown at the bear being in comedy. People talk about this. It's like a meme. Like, how is the bear in comedy? Like, if I'm watching the bear, I'm crying or I'm having a panic attack. Right. So that's always been a thing. But the fact that White Lotus is in drama, White Lotus feels more comedy than the bear. Can you believe those two?

[A]

I mean, I do think White Lotus is more drama than comedy, but if you're gonna put the bearing.

[B]

That's my point. Like comedy. Okay. With the White Lotus being in drama, but then the bear needs to be there too, and they need to swap.

[A]

Now that I'm even further into the bear, I could not agree with you more. That's crazy.

[B]

I've watched every episode that exists. It's not a fucking comedy. And I actually think White Lotus under comedy is totally acceptable, but okay.

[A]

The last thing is thank you for educating me.

[B]

Do we need to watch the Pit?

[A]

So the Pit takes place in Pittsburgh, which is obviously where I'm from. And I promise you guys, I'll add shows there. I was born there. It is a big hospital culture. Blah, blah, blah. I don't like medical dramas.

[B]

I don't either.

[A]

It's just I'm really squeamish about that stuff. I can't watch any of it. I didn't watch er. I didn't. I've never watched a medical drama. I really get very squeamish about it.

[B]

No, but people are so obsessed. Let us know in the comments, you guys. Like, I don't really have a problem with er. I watched it a little bit. I just never got super into it. Grey's Anatomy I was never really big in. But, like, is it different than those. Like, if we're sitting here saying, really? Let us know in the comments. If we're sitting here saying, we're not ER girlies, we're not Grey's Anatomy girlies. Will we like the pit? Tell us why. Because I'm open to it. I feel like I've seen people post about it and I'm like, I didn't expect that. Like, people are obsessed.

[A]

Well, it's on hbo, so it. It is a different, like, level of television, I think, than, like, ER would be. Right? Like a different level of production value. Yeah, I.

[B]

Maybe it's edgier. I have no idea. What I don't like is the hospital about it. I don't want to see the hospital. That's not a setting I like.

[A]

I'm with you. I'm with you. But I want to like that show. It's from Pittsburgh. I want to watch it.

[B]

Have you tried it at all?

[A]

I tuned in for, like, five minutes of it and there was like a heart transplant or something. Like, it's blood.

[B]

Too much blood.

[A]

I don't want it. Okay, all right, well, but I like. I like that you asked. I am struggling for television. I have nothing. I got. I started the new season of Traitors last night. I do think last season was like this crazy flash in the pan. You had Gabby, who was unbelievable, and Tom Sandoval and Dylan Efron. This season is Donna Kelce, which is hysterical.

[B]

Isn't it? Like, we talked about this before. Isn't it, like, physical challenges?

[A]

Yes. And honestly, they had the two physical challenges from the first two episodes.

[B]

It would. I don't.

[A]

I think Donna Kelce, they might have just let her sit this one out. I don't know. It would have killed her. The first one. They have to get into these boats and row out into this lake and pull these coffins from the lake and then drag these coffins.

[B]

Morbid.

[A]

Drag these coffins up onto the shore and then carry them up a hill and drop them into grave sites.

[B]

Wait, that is dark as shit. Pull these coffins out of the lake. Why?

[A]

There's dozens of coffins in the lake. And then the next day, they have to take these chariots and drag them back to the castle through the woods in Scotland. They're like, mosh, mosh. I mean, they have to, like, push these chariots. They look heavy as fuck.

[B]

Like, Donna would die, so she's not doing that.

[A]

She was definitely part of the first challenge. The second challenge. You guys can let me know if I'm wrong. I did not see her a part. I'm not, like, ragging on somebody for being a certain age. This feels like, physically not capable for, like, not safe for people of a certain age.

[B]

Yes. She's like, my mom's age. She has grown kids. Like, that's what. That's just what it is.

[A]

I mean, there's almost nobody on that show under 40, which is crazy. But, you know, I was, like, asking a friend of mine, I was like, well, does anybody hook up on the show? And she was like, that's not the vibe. And I was like, do people get, like, drunk? And she was like, that's not the vibe. And I was like, do people fight? And she was like, that's not the vibe. People go to bed early and get up and have breakfast. And I was like, what?

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

What is the draw?

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

I honestly cancel this, but thank God Tommy Lies started this week. As this comes out. It started on Tuesday night, so we will have recorded before it came out. But, God, I rewatched the first two seasons. I'm ready. I'm excited. I mean, the cliffhanger from last year was unbelievable. I am actually really curious what they're gonna do with this because I read the book. It's only one book, and the book, I mean, it ends. They do go. They do move to New York in the book. Like, every college ends and they move to New York. So if you'll remember the end of season two.

[B]

Do I remember the most deranged episode of television in history? I would say that the season two finale of Tell Me Lies. Reyna, stop. It's burning in my brain forever. I do not need to rewatch. I can't even couldn't believe what happened in one episode of television. I'm so ready to watch this season.

[A]

But all of those guys are seniors, so you're like, where is this going to go? Is it the summertime? You guys will know they're not in high school.

[B]

Oh, I'm out. I draw the line. It's sophomores for what I like to watch you guys know I'm not being creepy, you know, like high school teachers.

[A]

As opposed to what you like to date?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

So there's no. I guess we'll deep dive on this next week.

[B]

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[B]

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[A]

You know us, we have a couple.

[B]

Of moms, mom group drama and mom talk.

[A]

So the Ashley Tisdale article in the Cut that she wrote kind of an op ed about her mom group and the fallout with them. We talked about it last week on the Snack and I did not expect this to continue all week.

[B]

I mean, we were talking about this yesterday. She's not an A lister, super famous celebrity, but she has been around. She has. She is known. She is a celebrity. And so I don't fault her for writing that and sharing her truth, but you kind of have to know that if you're a celebrity of any kind and you write about a friend group breakup, people are going to be like.

[A]

Who are the friends?

[B]

So you have to kind of expect that that is going to be the immediate thing that people want to know. Who are the moms? Who are the toxic moms? Let's do a quick search of who she used to hang out with. And now you see it's Hilary Duff and all these people. So, like, I just, it's really. I'm not surprised. You're right.

[A]

I mean, I just was like, where is this going to go? But, like, I think people are obsessed with, like, celebrities acting like they do, you know, and it's like all these girls that were wildly famous at a time, so like Hilary Duff and Mandy Moore and the whole group is famous moms and they're in Hollywood. And of course it was like prime to blow up and that all. Like I will say, I do think that, like the message in that article was important about how women groups and you know, I was talking to a friend of ours this morning who's pregnant with her second child, and she was like, like, having a community around me is the most important thing in the world. I want, I want a village around me. You know, we have to do so much. It's really important. So I think it's important to validate. Those things can be hard to find and they're important to find. I just. And I will say she did not drag anybody.

[B]

It wasn't her intention.

[A]

She didn't like light anybody up at all. But it's crazy to have these pictures available on the Internet and think people aren't gonna know exactly you're talking about. And so what happened a couple days later was, was all the husbands kind of start getting involved. All of them. So Hillary Duff's husband is the one who put out the main like statement. And he basically. So funny. He put out, I thought he did an article with the cut.

[B]

He wanted to make it seem like this was just on his story. So Matthew Coma, who's Hilary Duff's husband, posted on his story this photo of him. Was. Is it his. His head on her body?

[A]

No, I think it was him. I think it was. But it, it said like my response, Dad's response to the cut. And it said, when you're the most self obsessed, tone deaf person on earth, other moms tend to shift focus to their actual toddlers. I mean, actually, I have to tell you, I spent 20 minutes looking for this article and, and it was vague.

[B]

Yeah. So it's. I know it's kind of hard if you're having trouble following along. It's a little confusing. I mean, bottom line is he just called Ashley Tisdale self obsessed.

[A]

Self obsessed. Tone deaf. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Like basically saying she was the problem in the mom group. Yeah. Defending his wife. I don't know. I always have mixed feelings of a male partner jumping in.

[A]

They're all kind of trading like light shade now. You know, Meghan Trainor and Mandy Moore and light shade.

[B]

Well, Meghan Trainor posted a tick tock that was like, I don't know what's going on. Basically, she kind of was, I want to be excluded from this narrative. Vibes.

[A]

Her husband was like all good over here.

[B]

Yeah. So it's mainly Hillary Duff's husband. Which does make you think Hillary Duff was the ringleader of all of this. Which we called, which we did because Meghan Trainor's like, leave me out of this shit. So. And then Mandy Moore, we were talking about her last night when we were hanging out with some friends. Like she. What last year on the fires, she was super toned up about stuff like.

[A]

I don't know, whatever.

[B]

But it's, it's. I'm just having fun watching, you know, like, because this is. No one's getting hurt. And I mean people's feelings, I guess, but it's, it's fascinating to watch.

[A]

I guess it's kind of short sighted of Ashley Tisdale to think I'm gonna make this very public statement and these photos are publicly available and no one's gonna to say anything. Like, I don't blame people for wanting to defend themselves publicly. Yeah, you're like making comments about being this mean girl and it's very clear that you're talking about me. Yeah, but the husband's getting involved. I don't know, I just, I think it's well intentioned. I think people are like, you publicly dragged my wife and I would like to stand up for her. I think it's well intentioned, but I just feel like it adds unnecessary fuel to the fire. Like I would, I want my partner to back me up in private and let me speak in public.

[B]

I'm with you. I think it's, it makes it look worse for Hillary Duff. I think it makes her look like she was the ringleader. Like if this happened to us and someone left the friend group and wrote this thing and people figured out it was about us, I think I'd let it lie. I think I'd be like, as a person, if you've followed along and you consume our content, you know what kind of friend I am. You know, like people feel excluded for various reasons. Again, I'm not saying I, I don't know what went on behind closed doors and I just, just feel for anyone who feels like Ashley Tisdale feels. But maybe she was a problem. Who's to say? I said this last week, maybe she was annoying, but I just wouldn't, I'd be like, I don't care. Like if people, some people on the Internet are saying like Ashley and Rainer were, are mean and excluded somebody, it's like, I just don't think I'd feel the need to respond.

[A]

I'd be like, ah, this is beneath me.

[B]

Yeah, it's beneath me. And, like, I'm just gonna be over here living my life, and y' all don't know. And I don't know. I think. I don't think it would bother me that. That much. Unless, of course, someone named me by name and said things that I weren't sure.

[A]

I don't know. I think, to me, like, a partner gets involved, like, escalates the conflict. It's a pile on. Like, that's not the primary relationship at play here. I don't. I would be embarrassed if my partner did that.

[B]

Yeah. 100. Yes. Let me just. That is. My final answer is like, I would be like, babe, do not stop. This looks so petty. Like, it just. Let's not roll around in the mud.

[A]

Looks like I sanctioned this, but she probably did. I knew Hillary be the leader of that, and I hope they make up for one, because I told you, I think that they should play us in, like, a movie about our lives. Ashley Tisdale's. You and Hillary. That was me.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I hope they make up so they can do our movie.

[B]

It's like, nobody wants this, but with the cast. Yes. So that's what's going on with the Toxic mom group. So let's move on to mom talk, the Secret lives of Mormon Wives. So I don't want to go too hard because this show has been over for months, But I'm almost done with season three. I only have a few episodes left, so I'm really sorry that I couldn't finish before this, but I really just. We got to get this out of the way. We gotta.

[A]

I just need foaming at the mouth. I know you need it, but I'm.

[B]

Pretty proud of myself. It's. It's. This was my New Year's goal, and it's January 12th as we record, and I'm almost done, and I feel like you and our other friend Anoushka were like, you can't start now. And I'm like, watch me, me, watch me.

[A]

People have been telling you to watch this. You got a little testy yesterday when I said people. People have been telling you to watch this for years.

[B]

I had a really busy year last year.

[A]

Couldn't add it to your plate, so.

[B]

This isn't my favorite show.

[A]

Oh, it's so weird. I'm telling you.

[B]

First of all, I think that these streaming platforms do reality so well. You know, I was never a Bravo girly. I never got into Housewives, and There's various reasons, but just the way things are shot, they're beautiful. The way they're edited. The opening song with the montage so into it. We said that about the Kardashians when they moved over to Hulu. It just looked better. Yeah, but I mean, this is really like, to watch this show straight and watch it evolve in one sitting, basically in a two week period is what a treat. It's just a different experience than you're going to have when you're watching it live. And it really is like my comfort show. Like, I was feeling kind of down the other night and I put it on. Like, I just felt better. Like, this is my family. I mean, I'm fascinated with Mormon culture. Like, and that's why I was saying, like, you know, when I go to. When I performed in Salt Lake, like, I talk about Mormon stuff. Like, I'm fascinated. So many things about the culture. I'm fascinated by the loopholes. I'm fascinated by soaking and docking and all the ways they get around sex and the. Some of the other stuff, like, they can't drink coffee, but they can put it in their buttholes. Like, you can do a coffee enema, but you can't drink coffee. You can't drink coffee, but you can mainline Mountain Dew. You can't drink alcohol, but you can get Botox and laughing gas. Like, I find these things fascinating to watch. And I mean, there are really dark themes. I mean, so many of these women have been abused or sexually assaulted. And, you know, I find some of their stories so powerful and their strength so powerful. And overall, it is an empowering show for women. I mean, it are people. Do people say it's not?

[A]

No, I mean, I think that because they're trying to be.

[B]

They talk about it a lot. They're like, we're trying to empower women. That is our goal within Mom Talk. And I wondered if there was like a discourse of being like, oh, please.

[A]

I've never seen that. It is funny when they say Mom Talk is to empower other people. And it's like, all you guys are doing is voiceovers and dances. So, like, there's a lot. And also ripping each other to shreds on the Internet. So it's sort of funny to listen to that all the time. Like, this is not what Montauk stands for. But yes. I mean, the first season, you see this show where, like, these women have been, like, really deeply, negatively affected by men and religion and the community that they've grown up in. And yes, they have Been really like held down. And the attitudes about. About sex and working, like, are so backwards to me. And it's unfortunate what these women have had to go through, but like over three seasons, you see them, every single one of them is the breadwinner. They all have businesses, they have written books and started new companies. And like watching, like, I know that like, Whitney has had like ups and downs throughout the show, but the first season she's talking to her mom about like using a vibrator and it's like that's a huge barrier that she has broken for other women in these cultures.

[B]

Yes, that's the overall thing. And yes, tiktoks and dancing and voiceovers, but it is so much more than that of what they're doing and showing women that you can be and you can break free of these barriers. And the church, I mean, they're all on a spectrum too. And some do drink and obviously sex out of wedlock and all that stuff. And it's like you're watching it trying to figure out are they going to church? Not really.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, some of them sort of identify as Mormon, but not. I mean, there's a spectrum on the whole show. I feel like there's a big buffet. But they all still do identify as Mormon. Mormon.

[A]

I think it's sort of. I mean, I don't know. I don't. So, like, growing up in a very Jewish community in Pittsburgh, like part of my life and my identity of being Jewish was religious based, but more of my identity, being Jewish was just more about like being in the community and around other people. And there's certain ideals about being a Jew. It was less about like, you have to go to synagogue at these days and times. So I don't know if being Mormon is a little similar. It's just like it's. The whole community is similar.

[B]

Yeah, I get that. I. I think the biggest thing for me was I didn't know what to expect for, for any of these women, like, namely Taylor, Frankie, Paul. So I had never. I don't know, I just, I don't watch the show, so I was never consuming content. I don't even know if I'd ever seen her in an interview what I thought about her. I thought that she was gonna be this like, leader, this baddie, like this super confident person. And like season one is this like tortured, unhealed young woman with two children and another one on the way. And she can't seem to regulate her emotions and she has so much trauma. She's not self assured. She's not confident. She's only an enemy to herself. She's not like. I kept thinking, like, she's an enemy to no one but herself. And I was like, is she ever gonna fall into, like a leader role? I thought she was the ringleader of the whole thing. And yes, she kind of did. Did start it technically, but I didn't think she would. I was like, this woman is like, has no self assurance and I feel like to watch her growth. I just love her so much. I told you. Like, she just. I think she acts out sometimes too, but she truly seems to embody this. Do unto others as you want done unto you. And she's constantly the only one that's really, like, I didn't like when this happened to me, and I'm not gonna do it to you. Like, I love watching her. I mean, her relationship's up, but, you know, it is what it is. I. I like watching her with her mom. I like when the mom gets involved and fucking shows up on her behalf and calls people. Like, I just like, love her so much. And the way that I've watched this and binge this, the, like, way that my feelings have changed on these people, like, told you. It's gonna be a roller coaster to me. I loved her season one. I don't think I've ever loathed a character this much since Christine Quinn right now. Is she the worst villain on reality tv?

[A]

She is so hateable. I mean, it's not just that we're talking about this after the show's over. Demi, to me, is such a villain because she has accused people of very terrible things that are horrifying, things that actually other women have gone through, like physical assault and sexual assault. And I'm not saying that maybe those things haven't happened to her. I have no idea. To make very public statements about people's. Other people's. I mean, fathers. I mean, she said, chase put his hands on me. That's. That's the father of somebody's children. Like, like to accuse people of doing these things, assaulting you, it's highly unethical. It lacks a moral compass. I don't understand it.

[B]

Yeah, she's awful. And I knew that was gonna happen, but I was like, when's it gonna happen? And then you see it start to happen, obviously in season two. And Reyna, I've never seen a redemption arc like Zach. I couldn't even watch him. Season one. I couldn't watch him. I was like, I hate this person so much. I get him off my tv. And. And you were like, there's gonna be a redemption arc. And I was like, how? I will not believe it. Even season two, I was like, wait, is he the best husband?

[A]

Well, the other one.

[B]

Is he the best dad?

[A]

Talk. He just, like, cools down.

[B]

Well, he did therapy. I mean, they worked out their shit.

[A]

And I also. Listen, I don't. I think that, you know, the stuff that you do is your responsibility, but, like, you forget that these people. I mean, he was 22 years old when they started filming that show. He was a kid.

[B]

Their ages always.

[A]

He was brought up in the Mormon church around people that said, like, this is how women should be and this is how men should be. And I think he just grew up. I don't know.

[B]

I love him. I love them.

[A]

I love. I didn't.

[B]

She's. I mean, I just. I'm a fan of the. Of them as a unit. Okay. Now I'm gonna do my power ranking, and then we'll call it. Okay. So I just. I'm curious if you're gonna align with me. Yeah.

[A]

Listen, I couldn't be more thrilled that you finally got into Mormon wives.

[B]

Okay, should I go from my fave to my least favor? Should I start at the bottom?

[A]

I think you start at the bottom. And I do want to say about Taylor, she is still the most famous, and she is the one that, like, did all these interviews and put herself out there, made all these tiktoks about, like, her. Her marriage ending and having these, like, this open marriage and these orgies and stuff. So, like, I think that, like, people this idea of her as being, like, a baddie and, like, putting people in their place, but really she's just the most famous, and she started all this.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, this is because of her. Yes. Which Demi.

[A]

So for Demi. Yeah, Demi is. Is really crazy.

[B]

Okay. Bottom to me. Sure. Obviously, second least fave. Whitney. Am I. Is that every. Don't we all agree?

[A]

Well, so she act. It was really fascinating because people hate her so much. Such a huge character arc on Dancing with the Stars. But people don't hate her as much because she is just like, I am what I am, and I'm honest about what I am.

[B]

I just. There's so many things about her. She's so Marty. Victimy. I don't know.

[A]

There's just, like.

[B]

Just can't. Like, oh. Oh, my God. Like, I just can't. Okay, next. Again, up from here. I don't have a problem with these people. I just had to rank them. So Then we get into Jen. I feel for Jen. Yeah. Just middle Miranda. It's fine.

[A]

Fine.

[B]

Okay, well, they don't. She doesn't have a story. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

She's there because she had sex with Taylor.

[B]

Okay. Now you're in my top five. Okay. So fifth, Layla. I. I like Layla. I've liked watching her growth. I just. I don't. She's really. She feels. She feels really young to me. Yeah. But obviously I'm fine with her. Next we have Michaela. She's my fourth slot. Third slot. See the top three. I'm curious if you're going to align with me, but my third fave changed a little bit. It's Macy.

[A]

Oh. Because you really rode so hard for me.

[B]

I did. I really rode so hard for Macy. And she's an unproblematic queen and I love her and I cry with the stuff with her former partner that died and all that. Second is Taylor.

[A]

Frankie.

[B]

Paul.

[A]

Oh, okay. We're giving Jersey the number one spot.

[B]

My favorite Mormon wife is Jessie.

[A]

I wish you would have seen when her and Demi were going back and forth dozens of story slides. It was all day, every day. Like, you missed.

[B]

Did it make you think different?

[A]

No, it made me think, like, this is just amazing to watch. Okay.

[B]

That's my queen. And she really was. Not when she was besties, but to me she wasn't. But when she cut to me off, I think she's so honest. And she's the baddest businesswoman of them all. And she's got her hair empire, and she just feels really, like, smart and well spoken. And I feel for her. She's, like, insecure about her looks. I'm like, you're so hot. And, you know, I wish we would have met her at Lady World because she was there and I didn't know her then. I didn't know she was my queen. She's your queen.

[A]

Okay. I don't disagree with. I love all these women. I mean, I think that they're really brave. I think that the stuff that they admit on national television has, like, changed other women's lives. To talk about, like, the struggles in their marriages, the verbal abuse in their marriages, the sexual abuse they've experienced, like what these women have gone through and then they will talk about on national television is, like, so important to other women.

[B]

And I think I'm like, who would I be friends with? And Jesse just seems. She is one of the older ones. She's in her 30s, but she just seems older. Yeah. Well, who's your top Three faves.

[A]

I think those are my top three. I don't know who else it would be. I mean, I just, like, I love. I love Taylor. I root for all of them, honestly, except for. To me.

[B]

Okay, well, I'm gonna finish season three. Shashank's been watching. He's involved. He says the funniest stuff. Like, he'll say stuff, and I'm like, I wish I could capture that. And we are not that kind of couple for. For him to redo it. But the stuff he says just naturally. And what he's been saying recently, just all the time about everything, he's just like, women are so sick. Women are so sick. Like, he just says it all the time. Like, the way we communicate. Like, he just is like, women are just the best. Like, he's never. Not just, I don't know, amazed by us. But I like when he. Like, the way he would talk about that show. He's like, these guys. How are they treating their partners like this? They're like. They're the breadwinners and their babes. Like, what are these guys thinking?

[A]

It's actually pretty crazy. Yeah, it's really crazy to watch. All right, well, I'm glad that you're involved in my show.

[B]

So am I gonna. Am I gonna stay like this through the end, forever, until the end? No. Like, nothing's gonna change in the last few episodes. Like, we're gonna kind of stay in this. Like, oh, yeah. In terms of who I like and everything, I'm not. I'm not gonna turn on any of my faves. Waves.

[A]

Oh, no. Taylor, if anything becomes even nicer, she's more inclusive of people, and she seems like, yeah, you will. You're gonna see Dakota do something really terrible to her. But other than that, okay.

[B]

All right. I'm not, like, a Dakota apologist, but you don't see these guys act that bad on tv. They keep. They really. They come across. I don't like Jesse's. Whatever his name is, Jordan. Like, but the other ones, like, don't come across that. That poorly. I know. It's, like, behind closed doors.

[A]

Well, Jordan and Dakota are the ones that are so bad behind closed doors, and they're just, like, liars, and they're so manipulative, and they're so toxic. And so in interviews, like, they did one together, Jordan and Jesse, and she was talking about how he, like, recorded stuff about her having an affair with Marciano and was threatening to blackmail her, and every time she would say something he didn't like, he was like, don't make me press this button and send it out on that kind of stuff. Like, really manipulative, sick stuff. Dakota is, like, cheated on Taylor a lot, and he's really manipulative and lies to her a lot and gaslights her.

[B]

And I feel like I'm a Macy's husband kind of gal. Like, I just feel like he really helped her heal from.

[A]

He doesn't bother anybody. Doesn't do anything. Exactly. Doesn't bother anyone. He's tall.

[B]

He's. Look, he's not bad looking.

[A]

He's cute. He's never done anything wrong.

[B]

Jordan is Teemu Spencer Pratt.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

He does. That's his energy.

[A]

That's crazy. Like, our future mayor.

[B]

Stop, Dolph. Okay.

[A]

All right, well, we'll do some headlines, and we'll send you guys back out into the world.

[B]

Okay? Right. I feel so bad that I just sat here and did that for the last 15 minutes and you were just.

[A]

I told you not to. I asked you not to do that.

[B]

Do what?

[A]

Talk so long about this. But it's. It's my favorite reality show. There's never. There has never been another one this good.

[B]

You asked me not to, I said I wouldn't, and you said, okay, maybe.

[A]

In my mind, I thought that an hour later, it's my favorite reality show. I love these women. I love what they've done. I think it's so brilliant. I hope it never ends.

[B]

Okay, Rain is going to talk for the whole rest of the episode about all these headlines.

[A]

That sounds so bad.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. So actually, this has been an ongoing story, and we did not talk about it before, but Haley Khalil, who is Haley Bailey on Instagram, she basically made public statements about her ex husband, Macleil, having an enormous member. She said it was the size of two Coke cans that they basically saw, like, doctors to figure out, like, how she could possibly fit that inside of her. She's a huge Instagram following, millions of followers. So this did go out to a lot of people.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And he. He's six years in the NFL. He played for the Vikings, for the Panthers. If you guys are curious, like, who these people are, and she's like an influencer type person. I mean, again, these aren't people that I knew about before this came out, but I'm like, oh, I'm invested now. She's saying. She said. I mean, she said they couldn't have sex, and it was a problem. I think it's interesting. They got married, you know, that you can, you know, the size of the dick. You know, it's like they waited till their wedding night. So basically now he's pushing back.

[A]

So he is suing her for like defamation. Essentially, he said it's created unwanted attention and invasive commentary from the public. His family members have been forced to endure ongoing public circulation of these degrading and deeply personal statements.

[B]

So, okay, my question is, did he wrong her? You know, like, I don't know what happened in this relationship. Like, if I ended a relationship on good terms, I don't think I'd want you running your mouth about how tight my pussy is. I mean, maybe I would. I just, I don't think I want you talking about my body no matter what. And not everything is what if women, what if men. But I'm just saying, like, I think he has a point. If they ended on a. In a good place, like it. I don't. It's not vengeful. Cause it's like a compliment, but it's like I can see where he's like, can you stop talking about my. My dick? Like, I thought we were cool, but maybe they weren't cool.

[A]

I actually, I don't know, I can't speak to it. I. I have followed along with her for a long time. I like her content. She is silly, she's smart, she's really funny, she's self deprecating. Very much like, it is very much in line with her content that she would be like, my ex husband's dick was so big, I couldn't take it.

[B]

Like, yeah.

[A]

That being said, you're also welcome on the other side of things to say. I would like you to not talk about my private, my private part. He's remarried, he has a child with somebody else.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. So I can see anybody?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This is the most like. But what if a man did this? The argument is the most I've ever seen for like, you know, if anybody talked about anybody's body publicly, they wouldn't like it.

[B]

Yes. It's just like it's complimentary in societal norms to have a big dick. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like she said he had a small dick. That's totally different. So I, I can't decide. Like, again, I'm not familiar with her content. If you married me and we couldn't because your dick was too big and we got divorced, you would know I'm a comedian. You would know that. That's going to be the headline I'm going on every podcast as I'm talking.

[A]

About name your Next special. Too big, you know?

[B]

Yes. You know what you signed up to co cans. You know what you signed up for. So I don't know. It's like, should he just. I don't know. I don't. I don't know her intention because it's not an insult. But she's still talking about his body, so it's. I think I find it pretty interesting.

[A]

It's just. I don't know how much are we allowed to speak about our previous relationships? Because, like, I guess you could also defend it by saying, like, well, people were asking me what the problem was. That was the problem. I'm not about calling him an abuser. I'm not saying he cheated on me. I'm saying, like. Like, physically, we couldn't get the job done.

[B]

Yeah. I guess he's just like, God, like, my mom is asking me, like, I. I think he's just embarrassed. I'm not defending him. I have no idea what went on in their relationship, but I just wish I could get inside of her head, like, how did this end? Cause I just feel like if things ended amicably, you typically don't bring up those intimate details.

[A]

I just. I wonder if somebody's just like, I don't feel like I'm insulting you, but you're also welcome to be insulted, you know, Like.

[B]

Like, she's like, wait, I'm out here hyping you and your giant cock. Like, I can also see her being like, wait, what? You're suing me? You should be paying me.

[A]

Like, also, this is one of those things, like, if you didn't make this a thing. I mean, he's not. He was a. Obviously an NFL player for a long time. He's not Tom Brady. Yeah, like, if he start. No, if he didn't start no shit, there would be no shit.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. So she basically claims she's exercising sexual sovereignty by. By truthfully describing a sexual experience.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And again, it's not a sexual experience that paints him. I mean, he is welcome.

[B]

I'm gonna get sued for this. You better learn up on sexual sovereignty right now. It's like, sexual sovereignty. Remember it. For the tour.

[A]

I have talked. I'm talking about a couple people. One that will specifically sue me immediately. So I have changed a bunch of details. Changed a bunch of details.

[B]

Better talk to Haley Bailey, get her legal team.

[A]

I only drag one person sexually, and there's no way to know who that is. And it's not even like dragging him. It's just like a little.

[B]

A little light okay, should we move on? Yeah. To Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell and Cher, the trio you didn't see coming. And basically Cher went on their podcast, or she went on Armchair Expert and just kind of threw a dig at like. Like, maybe Kristen sees something I don't see. Like, I don't think you're good enough for her kind of vibes. And it was lighter than that. You know, of course the media is going to pull these headlines and make it sound like it was scathing, but it felt lighter in the room. I watched the clip, and then he has since been asked about on the red carpet, and he was like, laughed it off. But we wanted to talk about it because I get served a lot of content on Kristen and Kristen Bell and Dax Shepard. And I think more since that post she posted where about him killing her and stuff, then I think I was just getting served it more. And I think people just kind of started to turn on them as a couple. I never really had any feelings about them. I thought they were kind of weird. They would talk about not bathing their kids and they would overshare, and I didn't care. And I just didn't really care about them. But the more I get served stuff about them, the more he really.

[A]

You're not, like, into him.

[B]

He's just so arrogant. Like, the way they speak about their relationship. Like, I watched this. People really hated his interview with Jonathan Van Ness. He really was, like, harassing him about trans people and rights and things like that. People kind of turned on him there. Like, he just doesn't come across like a. A good guy. And when they talk about their relationship. I saw this one clip of her talking about their relationship, and she said, we don't really. We hardly ever agree on anything. And I was like, that sounds like hell. That sounds like actual hell. Your. Your spouse, the person you spend all your time with, you live with, you just don't usually agree on anything. Like, I think typically you want somebody. You agree on most things, and the things you don't, you work through them like they're that couple that's like, marriage is so hard, and it's an uphill battle and. And it's torture every day, but I love you. Like, they're the epitome of that. And he. The way he talks about her, he's like, I didn't really know if I wanted to be with her at first. Like, he talks about their relationship like he's the prize, and I hate that. And whatever he looks like recently is, like, no longer, like, quirky. Dax Shepard. He looks like scary to me.

[A]

I guess I digest it a little differently. Oh, okay. He actually took shares comments pretty seriously in the interview. He wanted to like, dig in and really like, unearth what she meant, what she was talking about. He ends it by saying, I'll tell you the thing that you should like about me. I'm not threatened by her shining. I love it. The shinier she gets, the better. So fine. That's nice. I wonder if they're just the kind of couple that suffers from this. These things are funny privately between the two of you. Do not read funny in public. And that whole comment about. What was it about him murdering her? I didn't strangle you and people should.

[B]

Be incentivized to kill you, but I'm not going to. We thought that was a dark joke. It was poorly timed and it was a kind of a mess. But I just don't. I don't like what I've been seeing. I think he really thinks he is the prize. And the way they talk about the relationship, it just, it. I couldn't be me. Like, the way they talk about. They blackout when they fight and they fight all the time and it's so hard. And I mean, I guess it probably makes people feel. Feel seen, but it sounds toxic.

[A]

Yeah, you just don't see people really like talking about their private relationships like this. And I think that they make jokes that are. That are funny and private and maybe to their friends who like, know that they really do love each other, if that's the case, like, they don't digest it like that. And so you think it's funny on a public platform, but like, all people hear is you kind of dragging your wife or saying how hard the relationship is or that you guys.

[B]

What was it they said? They don't shower, they didn't bathe. They don't bathe their kids till they start to smell or whatever. However you want, whatever you want to do with your own kids is your business. But yeah, the way they parent people criticize. But I don't know. He really icks me out. Now he looks like a scary villain, like cartoon Dog and he's like, really jacked. I don't know. I used to think he was quirky and funny and people still like them. I saw a post of him yesterday and people were like, oh, mom and dad, people still ride for them. But I think people have seen things they really don't like. And especially with the Jonathan Van Ness interview and various things that are like, he's Just not what we thought he was. But you know, whatever I can see.

[A]

I mean I just, I don't think people publicly enjoy watching anybody even sort of say something negative about their partner. It didn't need to be said. What's the point of this? I understand behind closed doors we all can be self deprecating and shit on our partners and it's hard to be with somebody for a long time. It's hard to have kids with somebody. It's annoying. Men are annoying. But I don't know, you just don't see people make like public comments without a lot of context around it. Like what's the point of this? What are we doing here?

[B]

Yeah. So I stand with share and always. Okay. And Spencer Pratt is running for mayor. Is he really? Yeah, he really is of at Los Angeles.

[A]

Los Angeles. He. I guess, I mean, what's his name?

[B]

He's a registered Republican.

[A]

So he's a registered Republican. However he said there's, there's nothing about me you're ever going to find that you didn't know. I mean you can find every piece of information about me on the Internet. I am registered Republican. I'm going to run as nonpartisan. And I really like that he said that. I like that you really.

[B]

Oh, are you in support of this?

[A]

Who cares? You know, who cares?

[B]

You know, white people have issues with the mayor. I don't know. I don't need to get into like California politics right now.

[A]

I mean, I think everything is a shit show. So I don't know who fucking cares at this point? I mean, I care. I live here. But he said it's a nonpartisan race. I won't be Democratic or Republican. I will serve either party. I will only work with anyone who wants to help the city. No labels necessary. I love that message. Okay, I think we need more of that today. More nonpartisan unity.

[B]

I don't know enough. So I'll do my own research on this one and get back to you guys. I just haven't seen him speak about it. I haven't read enough thing pieces about it to TikTok hasn't told me what I think yet.

[A]

Right. Read a book, watch a tick tock.

[B]

So anyway, that's what's do.

[A]

I really. I don't know. Who's to say everything's a mess? I don't know.

[B]

Okay, well we'll keep you guys posted. That's gonna be our next mayor. I'm not crazy about our current mayor, so. But I'm not saying I'm in support of Spencer Pratt, either.

[A]

Should we run?

[B]

Maybe we'll run.

[A]

Yeah, we should run. We should co run. That'd be so fun. I don't know. I don't want another job. I don't really want another job.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair.

[A]

You be the mayor. I could be, like, the co mayor.

[B]

Yeah, that's cute.

[A]

Like the first lady of mayor.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I could, like, pick the cabinet, and we could, like, pick each other's outfits. That'll be fun. Well, we are just gonna close with something a little more serious. Just. We are talking about politics, but you posted something really meaningful and beautiful about the execution of Renee Goode in Minneapolis. And it's just. It's been on our minds a lot. You know, we have a huge audience in Minneapolis. We know a lot of our audience is affected by this and scared about people in their community and people that, you know and. And these are really scary times. And I like what you posted because you put at least a little positive spin at the end and people reaching out and helping in their community. But what happened to this woman was deeply appalling. It's frightening. It raised a lot of really painful questions about how power is being used and what people are. Who gets to be defended. I'm glad this was filmed. I'm glad this was filmed and put on the Internet because everybody should see the evil that has happened in this country. It was hard to watch. I certainly would never watch a person shoot another person. But I think it's important to know what is happening in this country. And, you know, what makes this really disturbing is the administration's response and their willingness to just invent excuses and lies and make up fake narratives. And, you know, I thought we were so mad at all these other politicians, the emails, Hillary's emails. And now this is being defended. It's sick. It's horrible. It's on my mind constantly. It just. It's really upsetting, and there's a lot of dishonesty. And we want our audience and people in these communities to feel safe. That's what your government is supposed to do for you. That's what the policies that you vote for are supposed to contribute to. And it just. We just wanted to offer our love and our support and whatever we can. And I. I'm an American. I love being able to be an American. I love that we can use this platform to. To shit on the administration and talk about the president. I love that we don't live in other communities in other nations where you could never. Where they're Gonna shut the Internet off. I'm glad to live in an environment where I can still talk about these things and that's not lost on me either. But this stuff is just always on our minds. And I don't know if you wanna speak about what you said and I really liked it. Cause I think so much that I think and feel is just negative and I'm so angry. And it's important to remember that you have community and people are doing the right thing sometimes.

[B]

And yeah, you guys can go watch. I mean, it's the lengthiest thing I've ever posted. I spent a lot of time on it, like you know, writing it out and getting my, and organizing my thoughts. It's just on my Instagram. Ash Hess. It's a four minute watch. So I think I said mostly of what I wanted to say in that we are underreacting to what's happening in this country. I don't even know. It's like hearing your words, like you're absolutely right, but it's not enough. Like it's. There's no words truly to understand. Like I can't believe what we're seeing and humanity. I don't know where people have just lost it completely. People used to die and it didn't matter what side they were on. Our administration would speak about it differently. Like those days are gone. What we're seeing is sick. Like the propaganda and the lies from the administration. I feel like they don't care anymore if that you know that they're lying, they're lying in your face. And it feels like justice will not be served. And this is not America and we're just going to be killed at the hands of our government. And they let one thing like this happen, there's just going to be more and it's terrifying. And yeah, I posted about keeping hope alive. And I really believe that. I really believe the good outweighs the bad. I really do. I think we're gonna get through this. I just wanna survive it. But it is so bleak and so just, you know, take care of each other. And we're thinking of everyone in Minneapolis and all the cities that are being terrorized, including our own. There's so much you don't see that's happening that's not on the news and that's. I don't know, I've just got a loss. So anyway, yeah, so we don't wanna.

[A]

End the episode on a negative note, but this is on our minds. And it's not lost to me that I like posted this thing last week, like, buy tickets in Minneapolis. And our audience is always on our mind. These people in these communities that are being terrorized, that have children that they're afraid for. And now an American citizen was shot in her car, executed. So it would be crazy to not have to not acknowledge it in some way.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, I just got, like, all worked up.

[A]

We just. We always want to be a voice that, you know, like, will speak out. And we are grateful that we can do that. We'll always do that for you guys.

[B]

And as long as we can.

[A]

As long as we can.

[B]

Okay, guys. Girlsgottaeat.com raynagreenberg.com to get her tour tickets. We can't wait to see you guys. We can't wait to see you guys. I'm not sure if you caught that. We can't wait to see you guys.

[A]

Come to the Florida shows. You guys come to Florida.

[B]

I'll see you in Florida. And I am Ash Hess on Instagram, if you want to check out that video I just mentioned. Raina is Raina Greenberg. Girls, gotta eat on Instagram and tick tock. And of course, YouTube.

[A]

Comment.

[B]

Leave a comment on Spotify or YouTube wherever you guys want to comment and we will see you Monday.

[A]

Have a good weekend, guys.

[B]

Bye.