The Snack: Mustaches, Mormon Wives, and the M*nosphere

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat — The Snack: Mustaches, Mormon Wives, and the M*nosphere

Podcast: Girls Gotta Eat (Dear Media)
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg
Date: March 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this high-energy, comedic pop culture snack, Ashley and Rayna tackle the latest in awards show chaos, shocking red carpet facial hair trends, the evolving drama of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, the wild world of the "Manosphere," and more. From deconstructing mustache mania at the Oscars to recounting TSA travel nightmares and dissecting the Netflix dating landscape, the co-hosts blend irreverent humor with sharp cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Office Park Sandwich Gate & Food Revenge

[00:13–02:06]

• The episode kicks off with the duo’s amusing gripe about uneaten gourmet sandwiches in their office kitchen.
• Ashley riffs about wanting to "steal" the turkey sandwiches (“That sign is so inconspicuous. …It’s like they want me to steal it.” — Ashley, 01:45).
• Rayna plots playful revenge by bringing a huge Girls Gotta Eat-only spread as a joke, “just to fuck with them.”

2. Oscars & Award Show Rundown

[02:18–16:34]

• Red carpet facial hair steals the chat: Mustaches dominated (Jacob Elordi, Leo), while a clean-shaven Pedro Pascal causes a "jump scare."

“When I saw Pedro Pascal barefaced, it was such a jump scare. I needed a trigger warning.” — Rayna, 06:51

• Goatees are roasted:

“Stop trying to have facial hair. I can’t believe that guy eats Kylie Jenner’s pussy.” — Rayna on Timotheé Chalamet, 07:43

• Ashley admits she hasn't seen most nominees ("Last year I was seeing so many movies and reading so many books. It was like a cry for help." — Ashley, 05:11).
• Iconic moments: Anna Wintour calls Anne Hathaway “Emily”—a meta nod to The Devil Wears Prada, sending chills through both hosts:

“The chill that went through my body…that was the best moment of the Oscars, for sure.” — Rayna, 14:44

• Notable observations:
  • Timothée Chalamet in “Marty Supreme” was never Oscar-worthy in their eyes.
  • Mustaches are replacing beards—Ashley says, “I'm sexually attracted…I’m a mustache sexual” (10:50–11:01), crediting Hank from Hang Salt as her mustache awakening.
  • General feeling: this Oscars show was less boring due to its spontaneous comedic moments (e.g., Kumail Nanjiani navigating an on-air tie).

3. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives — Season 4 Deep Dive

[16:34–27:51]

• The co-hosts unpack the new Hulu season, with Rayna expressing strong disapproval over too much screentime for the husbands, especially the polarizing Jordan:

  “This is the Secret Lives of the Wives. Not about [the husbands]…they are accessories to me.” — Rayna, 17:09
  “Jordan, I’m having a visceral reaction…he had the audacity to say ‘we’re funnier than the wives.’” — Ashley, 18:39

• Only 12 minutes of episode one reportedly feature just the wives.
• Fan favorite: Chase earns praise as an “outspoken liberal king,” drawing parallels to Ashley's friends ("He is Buck, and I'll die on this hill." — Ashley, 18:35).
• Harry Jowsey’s cameo prompts chaos:

  "He thought polyamory was a person. …That’s so funny for him to…'Polly Ann Marie…she’s on Selling the OC…'" — Ashley & Rayna, 23:44

• Taylor’s storyline disappoints; her character arc has “regressed” and she’s lost audience sympathy after sleeping with Dakota (25:15–25:55).
• Major production drama: Taylor and Dakota allegedly involved in a domestic violence incident, stalling filming; Taylor's role on The Bachelorette is up in the air.

4. Manosphere Docuseries on Netflix

[31:10–36:53]

• Rayna reviews Louis Theroux’s The Manosphere, describing it as a cringe-inducing, revealing 90-minute watch of red pill influencers:

  “They just look so embarrassing…[and] none of them seem like they’re having fun. …Mommy, I don’t want a juice.” — Rayna, 32:37–33:06

• Both hosts agree these figures are fundamentally sad grifters, projecting exaggerated misogyny for clout and profit.

  “They, they wish, they think they are [masculine]. They're not. That's not what masculinity is. They're fucking pathetic.” — Ashley, 33:06

• They warn parents to see it as a cautionary tale, not a glamorization.

5. Dating Shows — Age of Attraction on Netflix

[36:53–45:36]

• Ashley and Rayna discuss Age of Attraction, hosted by Nick Viall and Natalie Joy:
  • Unique premise: contestants' ages are hidden; couples match, then reveal ages in the “Promise Room.”
  • Some wild gaps: “The woman is 54 and the guy is 27…her kids are 25 and 29.” — Ashley, 38:47
• The hosts contemplate the psychology behind large age gaps, with Rayna remarking:

  "The partner you pick is the most important decision you will ever make…that’s another child, just another kid to support." — Rayna, 43:45

• Both are more judgmental of relationships where the age gap is so wide the younger person could be a child (or grandchild).

6. TSA Chaos & Airport Drama

[45:36–48:40]

• Addressing the current travel mayhem and TSA staffing shortages, they share anecdotes of nightmare trips:

  “Airports are a shit show. …People are missing their flights. It’s heartbreaking. …It’s not always a vacation. It’s going to a funeral, seeing someone who’s sick, a wedding.” — Ashley & Rayna, 46:48–47:19

• Both express frustration at political leaders for causing “the American people [to] pay the price.”

7. Quick Pop Culture Headlines

[49:35–51:58]

• Access Hollywood canceled after 30 years—hosts celebrate being on the show just before the end.
• Humorous mockery of clickbait: Lewis Hamilton posts a heart eyes emoji to Kim Kardashian and it becomes a "romance" headline.

  “He commented a heart eyes on her Instagram. Smitten as romance…that’s it.” — Rayna, 50:49

• Celebrity couple rumor round-up: speculation about Alex Earl (possibly dating Joe Burrow) and Tom Brady (possibly dating Scooter Braun’s ex).

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• "When I saw Pedro Pascal barefaced, it was such a jump scare. I needed a trigger warning."
  — Rayna, 06:51

• "Stop trying to have facial hair. I can’t believe that guy eats Kylie Jenner’s pussy."
  — Rayna, 07:43

• "I'm sexually attracted. I'm a mustache sexual.”
  — Ashley, 10:50–11:01

• "Jordan, I’m having a visceral reaction … He had the audacity to say ‘we’re funnier than the wives.’”
  — Ashley, 18:39

• "Mommy, I don’t want a juice.”
  — Rayna, 33:06 (on the Manosphere doc’s most ridiculous scene)

• “The partner you pick is the most important decision you will ever make…that’s another child, just another kid to support.”
  — Rayna, 43:45

• “He commented a heart eyes on her Instagram. Smitten as romance…that’s it.”
  — Rayna, 50:49

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment Description | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------| | 00:13 | Sandwich revenge/office food anecdote | | 02:18 | Oscars highlights and mustache/goatee discourse | | 14:44 | Anna Wintour/Anne Hathaway: Devil Wears Prada joke | | 16:34 | Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season 4 breakdown | | 23:44 | Harry Jowsey’s “polyamory” confusion | | 31:10 | Manosphere docuseries review (Netflix) | | 36:53 | Age of Attraction/age gap dating show analysis | | 45:36 | TSA, airport travel chaos | | 49:35 | Access Hollywood cancellation + celeb rumors |

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Tone & Style

• As always, Ashley and Rayna’s tone is bawdy, fast-paced, and unapologetically candid, with plenty of millennial, pop-culture references, self-deprecating humor, and explicit language.
• Their banter is deeply conversational, as if chatting with close friends, seamlessly weaving thoughtful commentary with laugh-out-loud asides.

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Summary

If you missed this episode, you missed oscillating between pop culture critique and comedy gold. From a sandwich caper in their office park, through Oscars facial hair drama, Mormon influencer marriage messes, and the grotesqueries of the Manosphere, Ashley and Rayna’s whirlwind tour through the week’s headlines is as insightful as it is unfiltered. Give it a listen if you want snarky, in-the-know takes on mustaches, Mormon moms, masculinity disasters, and why Anna Wintour can still send a shiver down your spine.

Transcript

[A]

This week on the snack the oscars, secret lives of mormon wives and tsa chaos.

[B]

This is a dear media production.

[A]

Enjoy. Hi, guys.

[B]

Hello, Raina. I am so furious because I just went into. Yes. And we're gonna air it out this whole hour.

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Our first fight on air.

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We have our studio in this, like office park. It's cooler than that. We swear. But there's all this food in the kitchen.

[A]

So pissed.

[B]

Ashley.

[A]

I'm so. I'm enraged.

[B]

This is the second day today.

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It's Giada. G G I A T A if you live in la, best sandwiches.

[B]

All these sandwiches being uneaten. Yesterday it was all this Mediterranean food and it. There's a tiny little sign that says only for whatever the fuck company conspicuous. I would take a sandwich for sure. What are they gonna do?

[A]

I think we should.

[B]

And pay rent here.

[A]

Yes, I think we should. And no one else is eating it.

[B]

No one's eating it.

[A]

That's my favorite sandwich from Giada. It's like turkey with muenster and avocado. And there's this big fat of Caesar. Who's gonna stop me?

[B]

Okay, here's what I think we should do.

[A]

Steal them.

[B]

I think we should get a ton, a fuck ton of food. Okay. Put it in that kitchen reserved for girls. Gotta eat a ton of stuff. Like just splurge and then go donate it afterwards or something. Or invite our friends over, but not waste it. I hate to waste food. But literally just fuck with them. There's two of us.

[A]

What are they gonna do? Nothing.

[B]

I mean, honestly, no one will even notice. And I will have done all that for revenge to no one. But I'll feel good in my heart.

[A]

I know I want to watch the boiler room guys next door just want our sandwiches and not be able have them because they stand outside our door saying the dumbest shit on earth.

[B]

I am just going to be furious if it gets thrown out. That's what I'm saying. Like when you see a spread like that and it's been there for an hour or two and there's so much left, it's going in the trash and I'm pissed.

[A]

Listen, I like to. I don't steal, but I. I would steal. And I want to steal one of those sandwiches and I feel like no one could blame me. That sign is so inconspicuous. It's a tiny little baby sign. It's like they want me to steal it.

[B]

No, it's a folded up piece of computer paper, what you use for tissue paper in a gift. And it Just says in, like, pen, not even sharp yet. They're asking for it.

[A]

They are.

[B]

They.

[A]

Are they wearing?

[B]

All right, well, let's wrap this up and steal those sandwiches.

[A]

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[B]

Okay, so we're going to kick it off with an Oscars report. Just a few highlights and lowlights, if you will.

[A]

Wait, can I ask you a question?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Are we done with awards season?

[B]

They aren't in the grand finale, and then it picks back up in the fall with, like, the Emmys.

[A]

I think Emmys is in.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's in January or February.

[B]

What?

[A]

That's what Nikki does, right? The Emmys, Golden Globes. You know, I don't.

[B]

Between both of my partners in this life, like Shashank, Sunday night goes, why isn't Nikki hosting this? I said, same. Of course. Yes, same. But I was like, because she just hosted the Golden Globes two months ago.

[A]

A month ago. Wait, what's the Emmys?

[B]

Tv.

[A]

The Emmys is tv. The Golden Globes is everything.

[B]

Everything.

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And then obviously the Grammys at the Oscars is. Is just movies.

[B]

But, yes, the Emmys will be September 14, 2026. And the Emmys are my favorite because I watch so much TV. When it comes to music, it's still the VMAs for me. I don't care about the Grammys. I like both. Okay. Are we having VMAs this year? Are those canceled?

[A]

Why would they be canceled? Because they're taking everything, and they're taking everything good away from us.

[B]

Yeah, because we can't have a nice.

[A]

We can't have anything nice.

[B]

Also September. Okay. So, yeah, so we're at the end of the winter season. I'm just.

[A]

So why do they have an award show in September in Q3? That's ridiculous. Well, I don't understand. Q4 doesn't count.

[B]

Let's try to go to the VMAs. Reina, I would like to go to everything.

[A]

Okay. If we rank stuff, I want to go to it is VMAs, then the Grammys. I want music stuff first.

[B]

Yep, 100%.

[A]

And then maybe Nikki will invite us

[B]

to actually the One Globes.

[A]

I want to go to One Globes.

[B]

So did you see this sketch at the end where they offer Conan o'? Brien? They say, we want you to host for life. Did you see this? I didn't really watch them that much. I. I watched trying to put you on the Blast.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

At the very end, they come to him. They're like, kona, we're what we want you to host for life. I'm like, this is Nikki coded because you know they're going to have her host Golden Glows for like, we're going to have you host for life. Here's your new office. And they bring them in the office and they gas them to death. And I didn't know what was happening, but I guess it's from one battle after another. Like, Shashank knew that it was a playoff of that. I thought it was genius. And I wish they would have done it with Nikki. I just. It would have been so funny.

[A]

So funny.

[B]

Like, it felt like not that we've seen this before, but, like, I don't know. I just felt like someone should have come up with that for the Golden Globes because again, her being the second time host, this is so much like, you should do this forever.

[A]

Obviously.

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Yeah.

[A]

Go to next year. Okay. I have a confession to make.

[B]

Okay. Okay, here we go.

[A]

I really, like, usually make long lists of everything at the Oscars every year, and I go see, like, most of them. I have not seen any of the movies that are nominated for the Oscars except for Marty Supreme. I think I'm also not reading anymore.

[B]

Like, you're touring.

[A]

I'm not doing anything. Yes, you're touring.

[B]

You didn't have to do that. But you just. You had nothing to do when you were a life. Last year when you were seeing movies and reading books. The secret's out.

[A]

Last year I was seeing so many movies and reading so many books. It was like a cry for help.

[B]

No, but don't you feel. I mean, I just feel like that is fulfilling books, I guess when you're, like, in your reading era.

[A]

Yeah, I don't have, like, capacity for other stuff, so, yeah, I feel like my cup is full. Thank you for saying that. I thought you were going to be like, raina, what the fuck? I just. I really have not seen a lot of these this year, so I can't speak to them. Is it like a war movie? One battle after the next one?

[B]

Obviously one battle after another. I think my brother.

[A]

Same thing.

[B]

I wasn't shading you. My brother has texted now on the family chat and me personally to see if I've seen it. I guess he really wants me to see it. Matt and I don't always align. My brother and I have the exact same sense of humor. Our music tastes align. Our TV and movie do not always and typically actually don't align at all. And so when he tells me to watch something like, he loves Inglorious Basterds, I didn't love that. He loves Yellowstone for an example, as a show, I just. We don't have the same taste, men

[A]

and women, different tastes.

[B]

So, like, I don't recommend stuff to him. And vice versa. Versa.

[A]

I don't know how my brother and I have anything to talk about. I mean, he doesn't really consume social media. He doesn't really watch anything. We go to their house, and they don't have TV on during dinner. It's just like, I'm like, I don't

[B]

like TV during dinner. I guess I take it I like music during dinner.

[A]

We talked about this. You and I don't ever have background.

[B]

Okay, can I kick it off with the red carpet and an issue that I had, which was not a beard in sight. Rayna. I'm worried the trend is mustache. So we had Jacob Elordi's mustache, Leo's mustache, and then Pedro Pascal took off his mustache.

[A]

Who was that?

[B]

What naked man was that? Whose face is this?

[A]

There's some people whose faces you just. You're not meant to see. So we're not meant to see.

[B]

When I saw Pedro Pascal barefaced, I. It was such a jump scare. I needed a trigger warning. The same that I needed for Timothy Chalamet's goatee. But we'll get to that. But I really had to remind myself what he typically has. He just has a mustache. But even the removal of just the mustache was so jarring.

[A]

Totally different person.

[B]

And then Timothy Shalom, like that offensively prepubescent goatee. I guess that's what he typically has. But seeing him in the all white Kevin from the Backstreet Boys walked so he could run. Like, I hate a goatee so much. And when what I will accept a goatee on is Jalen hurts and Jalen hurts only.

[A]

Yeah. An athlete.

[B]

Michael B. Jordan, like, has some somewhat of a goatee. I don't even want to see it on Channing Tatum. I guess white guys is what I'm saying. But I hate a goatee so much. And when it's just sparse like that, when you're wiry.

[A]

Nobody wants this Timothee Chalamet.

[B]

Stop trying to have facial hair. I can't believe that guy eats Kylie Jenner's pussy.

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I just. After what she's. Who she's been with. I can't believe it.

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I can't believe I'm talking shame him her. Here's the thing I'm going to shame a goatee. I'm not done. You can change it. It's like, the one thing you can change. Like, it's like. It's a mullet to me. It's, like, repulsive. Like, it's like a lower back tattoo on your face. Like, which I listen.

[A]

I.

[B]

In terms of, like, the vibe.

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No shade.

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If you have a lower back tattoo.

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I do.

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Everyone I know who has one regrets it.

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I was my first tattoo. It looks like a bullseye. It is. I try to forget that it's there.

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All the cool girls don't. They regret them. They regret them. And you can remove it.

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So thank God. I don't know you weren't born with it.

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So I can make fun of it.

[A]

I thank God. I don't know that it's back there. Most of the time that's someone else's problem. Do you hate a goatee as much as me? Fucking hate. Everybody in the world hates a goatee.

[B]

Jalen hurts.

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Ever been like, I remember when Ethan Hawke had a goatee and he also was, like, a sex symbol. It's wiry. Wiry, yes.

[B]

It's just. It's not done. No one wants it does not look intentional. Except for a Jalen hurt. I can't say it enough, Raina. My dad had a goatee phase.

[A]

All right. This might be hot.

[B]

Like, it was so painful. It was giving, like, midlife crisis. Lee Heseltine and Shashank, my current husband, need beards. I. You can. I do not want to see them without them. Like, I have irrational fears of Shashank shaving his beard off. I feel like it's the same fear as me, like, ended up in Rikers Island. Like, they're irrational. They're never going to happen.

[A]

But, like, I do many beards, and it's just like, you're not supposed to see them without it. Listen, but I will say I love a mustache. I really fudge with a mustache. And, you know, I've been feeling like that since salt. Hang salt Hank. I knew you're going to say for years. I mean, he.

[B]

Like the.

[A]

The Viral sandwich restaurant in New York City. Our friend Hank. And I mean, I saw him on the Internet in 2021 and sent his video to Jeremy, and I was like, that guy and his mustache are so hot.

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And I will ride it.

[A]

I will. The last. The last. The last thing I rode was a mustache also.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

I'm currently involved mustaches. I'm into mustaches.

[B]

I like a mustache. I Like, the vibes. You have to have a decent jawline, because if not, you need a beard to cover that up. I also like clean shaven. My preferred is obviously what my husband has, but also heavy stubble. I am down with all of these things for the right person. Just a goatee on hardly anyone. But you're so right. Like, and this is coming in style. And I will tell you what. I think so many guys want to do it. It's Burt Reynolds, Magnum P.I. i love it. It's masculine. It's Top Gun, Miles Teller. Like, I think this is the trend. Or bare face. I feel like beards are on the way out and I'm upset.

[A]

They are. No, beards are on the way. It makes me feel very millennial that I've been so into beards for so long. But I have made the transition to mustaches. I'm really into them. Even Jacob Elordi. I've come around to it. I'm into it. Like, I'm high. Actually, I'm highly into it. So.

[B]

Right. Okay.

[A]

I'm sexually attracted.

[B]

I'm a mustache.

[A]

Sexual. I feel like. I mean, honestly, I think the best sex of my life is recently. And he has a mustache.

[B]

Yeah. So you like bald with a mustache, which is crazy.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's back up. I like hair with a mustache. Everybody I've been with that has a mustache has hair. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, the buzz cut, his is

[A]

buzz, but he used to have hair.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

Hank. Hank. Hair.

[B]

Bald with a mustache.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

You look like someone drew you.

[A]

No, you look like that game with the magnet.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Someone drew that mustache on. Like, you're just like a blank canvas with, like one line across your lip.

[A]

No, no. Okay. I full beard if you're going to be bald.

[B]

Okay. I'm glad we talked about this because I was just like, our beards out and please don't tell my husband.

[A]

No, it's like the front tuck. I mean, it is really millennial, I think, to be into beards.

[B]

They'll never go out of style, but. So Timothee Chalamet obviously did not win for Best Actor. Can I just say, I never thought he should have or was deserving before any of this stuff. And we really enjoyed Marty supreme minus the ending. I never once thought this is Oscar worthy of anything. Timothee Chalamet playing a slightly more erratic version of himself. This arrogant kid like Timothee Chalamet is Bob Dylan. I thought he should have Been at least nominated for the Oscar. I respect him as an actor. I never thought Marty supreme was worthy of any Oscar. Not that I'm a connoisseur in the Oscars, but. So it's just kind of interesting that he was in the running. It was this whole thing, and he was snubbed. I don't really think he was snubbed. Like, I definitely am so happy Michael B. Jordan won and Sinners won for all this stuff. And, like, the female cinematographer, first woman ever to win the Oscar for best cinematography for Sinners. But I just thought that was interesting. Like, why was it ever a battle? One battle after the next, one battle after the next.

[A]

I. I just think people like to see him and Kylie together. I think that, like, they're just gonna keep nominating him for everything. I mean, he is front and center for every single award show for years now. So is Leo. Like, they're just like, put him there for the jokes. Leo also hasn't won in many, many years.

[B]

He's just there one battle after the next.

[A]

I think the movie won. I don't think Leo.

[B]

But he's still.

[A]

I mean, he's just there so people can, like, make jokes. He's in the front. I mean, I'm just like, have these people won? They're there for the jokes.

[B]

Yeah, okay. They're there for the bit. And then Michael B. Jordan went in and out after, which was just so iconic. I mean, him in, in and out, and he was, like, signing stuff. I just, like, love to see that.

[A]

I just love him.

[B]

And then another thing I thought was crazy was this tie.

[A]

Thank God, by the way. Kumail Nanjani was, like, presenting it because he was. He just started doing bits. He's like, this is actually not a joke. Buckle in. Like, it was crazy to listen to him do this. And then it was for, like, the. The Short Something Awards, the Short Music Awards. He was like, how is this the longest acceptance speech for the short?

[B]

But when he said, we have a tie, he was like, no, I'm serious.

[A]

He said, it's a tie. I'm not joking. It's actually a tie. So everyone, calm down. Get through this. Focus up. I was so glad a comedian was presenting this. I didn't know that was even possible. Isn't the point of awards that you give an award to one person? How could this happen?

[B]

It's happened seven times.

[A]

Oh, my God. That many?

[B]

Yes. This is. Well, but in how many years? I mean, how many awards in how many years? I don't know.

[A]

It's just like, you have one job. The academy has one job, and it's to vote and give one award. Like the government has one job, which is to stay open and vote on stuff.

[B]

Right? Him and then Kieran Culkin saying, Sean Penn's not here, probably because he doesn't. He didn't want to come.

[A]

Like, he roasted him too hard.

[B]

I thought these Oscars were pretty entertaining. I think that they are so boring, I usually don't even watch them. I wanted to watch for the whole Michael B. Jordan, Timothee Chalamet of it all. And then I just kind of got into it. I thought there was some shade thrown. And then this Anna Wintour moment.

[A]

Oh, my God. The Anna Wintour moment. The Bridesmaids reunion. I mean, it was so fun.

[B]

So the Anna Wintour moment. Anna Wintour and Anne Hathaway came up to present an award. And Anne Hathaw says, would you like to read the nominees? And Anna Wintour says, thank you, Emily.

[A]

I mean, the chill that went through

[B]

my body, Obviously Devil Wears Prada 2 was coming out. So this was so brilliant. But I was just thinking how incredible this is and how there are so few movies that could pull that off that are so ingrained in our pop culture that that line just resonates worldwide and that Anna Wintour is delivering it from a character based on her.

[A]

So I looked up, it's crazy.

[B]

I looked up if she's addressed Devil Wears Prada over the. And she's just like very coolly addressed it over the years. She has never. She hasn't snubbed it or said, that's like, this isn't about me. She said it was great. She said it was. They took a fair shot like years ago. I mean, this movie, so old. But she's like addressed it. But that was the most. She delivered a line from the fudgeing movie.

[A]

I mean, chill went through my body. It's my favorite movies of all time. I've read the book.

[B]

You read the book?

[A]

No, the book was written by her former assistant.

[B]

Oh, right, right, right.

[A]

So it is actually based on having worked for Anna Wintour. So it should be, like, relatively accurate. I mean, I couldn't believe what I was watching. And I kind of. As I was watching Anna Wintour say it, I forgot it's Meryl Streep's line because they're so tied together. I forgot I wasn't actually watching the actress deliver the line.

[B]

Right. No. Yes. Like, it was a mind blown moment. And then Anne Hathaway asks, do you like, my dress. And people who know know that she's wearing florals and it's spring. Almost. Almost spring. So there was that. And she just ignores her completely, and she's like. And the nominees are. I just. That was the best moment of the Oscars, for sure. That's really it.

[A]

Well, a lot of TV and pop culture. I mean, let's just kick it off with the. The biggest one. It's. My entire feed is season four of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Thought I'd start with the other one.

[B]

There's one that I won't be addressing.

[A]

I think you'll enjoy what I have to say about it.

[B]

Let's kick it off with Mormon Wives.

[A]

So Secret Lives and Mormon Wives premiered. I mean, I was, like, laying in bed in D.C. before my show, and I was like, I can't believe I have to go to my show. And then I turned it on. By the way, I love my show. It's just. We really love Secret Lives.

[B]

Yeah, that happened to me. I was in Seattle for that chick show, and I was like, I can't believe. But I did take a nap. But I could have been watching, but, you know, gotta get my sleep in.

[A]

So the season came out on Hulu. I mean, I'm in the camp of everybody. As I was watching it, I was just like, why are these men on the screen so much? It's one of my favorite shows. I want to watch these women. I want to watch their stories. I don't want to know their husband's names. They are accessories to me. I don't care about them. This is the Secret Lives of the Wives. Not about. They picked Jordan, the worst one of all of them, who just got his face injected with filler and Botox and microblading. He looks crazy. And they just decided to give him the spotlight. So somebody on TikTok. I know this is an actual scene.

[B]

This.

[A]

This girl had, like, timed it. She said that the women are only on the screen in the first episode for 12 minutes out of an hour. Without the men?

[B]

Without the men. Okay. Right.

[A]

Because obviously, like, we are just being waterboarded.

[B]

Except for Chase.

[A]

Well, we'll take Chase always, so.

[B]

There's so much Chase I didn't know because we've only had. So here's the thing. I. I didn't care for Chase Prior, and then I realized, damage out, spoof. We have DM'd. He's this outspoken liberal king, and then he became so hot to me. I'm easy to please. That's all you got to do is, like, believe in, like, women's rights and human rights, and he.

[A]

And actually will. She will suck your dick.

[B]

And he does look like Buck. Is he not Buck? No.

[A]

We see faces different.

[B]

Raina, I thought you were really going to feel me on this.

[A]

No, he.

[B]

How do you. He looks exactly like Buck.

[A]

I do not. Listen, I find them both extremely attractive. I see no similarities.

[B]

He is Buck, and I'll die on this hill. They look exactly alike.

[A]

You talk about this his.

[B]

I haven't talked to Lindsay about it yet.

[A]

I wish.

[B]

I wonder if she thinks that I'll ask Lindsay. But anyway, he was a real peripheral character, and now he's more of a main character. But Jordan, I'm having a visceral reaction. Like, I couldn't believe that they had him saying he's the founder of dad Talk. And he had the audacity to say we're funnier than the wives. Like, he said it as this, as if it wasn't up for debate. Like, he said, like, this is a fact. Like, we're funnier. You guys are so fudgeing cringe. Like, what is happening here? Couldn't. Like, we're going to the Villa. I mean, I haven't watched it all. I watched the first episode and a half, and then Raina told me to skip ahead to one part, which we'll get to. But I'm getting the gist, and I'm not. Not enjoying it. But, yes, way too much. Dads.

[A]

I just. I don't need. I don't need to hear about dad talk. I don't. The Villa will take up three more episodes. Okay. Until you get it.

[B]

Talking about what happened at Villa.

[A]

Who did what at Villa? The. The boys not telling their wives about Villa.

[B]

When did they go?

[A]

They must have gone. I mean.

[B]

Oh, they don't show them going.

[A]

No, they never show them because it's a Hulu show, which will air. They're cross promoting that show. And, you know, the. The drama came from Demi and Marciano at Vanderpump Villa. And so they're gonna go back. Marciano is gonna be at the villa. And Jordan was like, you know, this is our chance to step out of your shadow. Shadow. She was like, you. You are my coattails.

[B]

You literally. You have definition without me. But do you think producers got in his ear and, like, encouraged him to take on this role for the TV drama? Hate of it all, like. Or do you think this is on his own accord? I don't know. I think that producers see something and dig into it. And push it, probably.

[A]

It's just. I'm not even hate watching it. It's just. It gives me the ick.

[B]

You really aren't into it.

[A]

Worst husband of all of them. Like, I really don't give a fuck about Mikayla's husband or Macy's husband, but, like, I don't have a visceral reaction to them. Jordan verbally abuses his wife. She's staying at a hotel every other week. Like, he's a monster.

[B]

I was trying to figure out what he looks like. He's. It's Jimmy Neutron. That's a good one. It's like Spencer Pratt and Scott Disick had a baby. That was also Eddie Munster. Like, he looks. I can't look at him.

[A]

Looks crazy. He got his face shot with so much filler. He's just the worst husband. I don't know why they anointed him to this. It's. It's a tough watch, but, I mean, I am glad that Chase is getting the screen time that we deserve.

[B]

So then they bring on Harry Jowsey. Reyna, Literally. Okay, so hear me out. His sole purpose is to flirt with Taylor and make Dakota jealous. It's just a planned storyline, whatever. But if they asked us, they were like, hey, just Ashley and Rainer, we want you to wait. And we want to bring on a celebrity just to flirt and just to be horny in la. Who would you guys recommend? We'd be like, harry will do it. Harry. Chelsea will do it. Literally.

[A]

Harry.

[B]

Yeah, I'll be there. Like, literally. You wouldn't have to convince him. Like, he is the most perfect cast for this.

[A]

He.

[B]

And you can tell, he's. He shows up and he's like, oh, my God, there's kids here. Like, ew.

[A]

Like, it is the funniest thing.

[B]

And they're all kind of giddy around him. I'm like, you guys be cool. Like, you're famous, too.

[A]

So they made it. They don't explain, like, why he's there at all. And they don't explain what his connection is. It's just all of a sudden, Taylor's on the phone with Harry Jowsey, and so they're. They're all out in LA for the Dancing with the Stars premiere. And Macy did Harry's podcast that day.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Or that week. And she said, like, all the girls are here. You should come to the house tonight. And that's how he got involved in filming. Macy was doing a tour for her book. He had never watched the show. He doesn't know anything about It.

[B]

Which is fair. They do kind of say, like, Taylor's about to be the bachelorette and she doesn't know how to flirt. Hehehe. So we're bringing him on like, it's forced. I support it. I support bringing him in to mix it up. Dakota's all pissed. But then him and Dakota, like, buddy up. Like, Shashank was. Like, that backfired. Like, that would be.

[A]

That would be Shashank.

[B]

Shashank.

[A]

I saw that and I was like, it would be him. He would just buddy up with somebody. Like, I've been trying to get Shashank to hate this one guy, and they just became. I was like, you're supposed to be on my side about this. He is.

[B]

He will. He will. He there. He hates other people that we actually haven't even told him to.

[A]

Yeah, he.

[B]

If someone does, like, the smallest thing to you, he does hate them. But this last guy, he's like, I like him. And he. I'll look over. He's watching his stories. I'm like, stop. Shizong. He's. He's liking it. Like, you're such a traitor. He's not the worst offender, though. Oh, my God, no. He fucks me.

[A]

Well, I just hate him. He's a bad person. I'll get Shashock out of there. I'll resume. But Harry Jowsey dropped one of the funniest lines I've ever heard in my life. And they said that we're all. He's like, so what's the deal here? Like, all your husbands are here, your kids are here, and Taylor, Frankie. Paul's explaining how this all happened, that they used to, like, have these, like, orgies swinging and we're into polyamory. And Harry drops the funniest line I've ever heard. Is that a person? He thought polyamory was a person.

[B]

What if that was your name? That's so funny for him to his mind to go there. That's very funny. Polly is a cute name. Polly Amory. We're all into Polly. Anne Marie. You know her? She's on selling. She's on selling the OC Anne Marie.

[A]

Like, that's what he said. He has an Australian accent, so he doesn't, like. He doesn't hear us as clearly.

[B]

Polly Ann Marie, like, bone apple tea. Yes. That was my favorite meme.

[A]

It was so earnest when he asked.

[B]

No, totally. Yeah. He's not making a joke.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. So are you done? Are you gonna watch it? What's your. What's your status?

[A]

No, I like Are you, like, really,

[B]

like, I may not finish this.

[A]

I just don't like it that much. I don't really want these storylines with all these husbands. I know you have, like, Whitney and Jenner living in LA now, and, like, Whitney, I guess, has since moved to New York. She said she's probably done with filming. And it's hard to know when people say that if they're just trying to negotiate a higher contract. But she did make a statement this week saying it might just be my time to be done. People are saying she might be on Real Housewives of New York. I mean, people are wildly speculating.

[B]

I mean, she's a star now.

[A]

I'm really. I'm. I'm liking her character. I never thought that I would be watching this show specifically because I enjoy Whitney. It's a tough watch. Taylor is. You know, we really liked her last season so much. You really saw her. She seemed really healed last season, and she was, like, really working on herself, and she was so kind to everybody, even to me. And this season, she seems to, like, really be going through it. And then she sleeps with Dakota, and I feel like she, like, lost the entire audience.

[B]

Yeah. And then kind of lost the plot. Like, she feels like she's regressed a little. She feels messier. So it's like, a bummer to see that maybe the fame has gotten to her a little bit. I don't know. I mean, she's got a lot of baggage. It made me laugh when she was talking to Harry and she was like, there's my baby daddy. I got another baby daddy in Utah, and I'm probably gonna have another baby daddy after the season of the Bachelorette. And I'm like, I don't know if that's how you flirt. I. I wouldn't like it if a man was saying that to me. I'd be like, I think I'm all set. That's whatever you're into. That's not a turn on for me. Most men either.

[A]

Maybe for Harry Jowsey, it might be

[B]

like he's like, I'm trying to be number four or three. So, yeah, I don't know. I might continue it. I wasn't, like, hating it, but I really want to know what's up with the prominence of the dads. Like, they have to know what people want, right?

[A]

They.

[B]

They do surveys and they get feedback like, please tell me this is not what people wanted. Every single person I've talked to or seen on the Internet doesn't want this. Nobody wants this.

[A]

I. There's not one person I've seen that's like, enjoying this. And I don't understand the move to do this. Like, no one wanted more men on this show. Real housewives have always been real housewives, and their husbands are accessories. And every once in a while, there'll be a franchise where people really like the husbands.

[B]

And you're so right. You're so right.

[A]

People don't want this.

[B]

Just follow that exact model. Like, I want to see them as accessories and as husbands, not as main characters.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't need to. I don't. Jordan's face. I did. It's too much screen time for me. So I don't know. We don't actually really know what is going to happen next season. So they are filming season five. The way they film the show is really interesting. They just go. Right. Like, you see them film the reunion for season three. During season four, they just never stop filming. Essentially, they just go right through. They film the reunion, and then season five's not been halted because allegedly Taylor, Frankie, Paul, and Dakota got into some type of domestic violence squabble. I read they're both being sent for psych evals, whether or not that's true or not. But they have halted production.

[B]

Meanwhile, the Bachelor is supposed to start the Bachelorette Sunday. I did not realize. This Sunday, and she's being accused of domestic violence second time. Right. I mean, ABC knew what they were getting into. She had this on her record before.

[A]

I mean, I just. I can't believe the timing of this. This is so insane. She was on the carpet for the Oscars also.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

And then I actually don't. I don't know the timeline. Like, was it the next day?

[B]

I don't know. She's got to get her shit together.

[A]

I mean, did she go on the next day? And there was, like, this altercation, and now the Bachelor is like, Is Kris Jenner, like, deejaying all this? Like, how did this all happen the same week?

[B]

I know, like, as the Bachelor made a statement.

[A]

No, they. I mean, I went to. I went to the Bachelor. I went to ABC's page, and obviously, people. I mean, they're bombing the comments. Hundreds and hundreds of comments calling for them to not air this season. And, I mean, this is a huge corporation. They can't just, like, wave a wand, make a decision in an hour. I'm sure that there's discussions. They have to make some type of statement. Yeah, but, like, I don't know. It's crazy.

[B]

Like, the.

[A]

The show is already filmed it's edited. This is the work of probably hundreds of people that had to converge to do this. All these. Listen, I don't feel bad for these guys that wanted the Bachelor, but people put their lives on hold for.

[B]

People want to see it. It's gonna crush no matter what.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Well, speaking of terrible men, we have another TV show we're gonna get to. But before that, we are just going to tell you about our partner, F. FP Movement. FP Movement is free people's activewear brand. We are both wearing it. Tell me what you're wearing.

[A]

I'm wearing the Hotshot crossover set. Now, you first bought it for, like, I think an out. An airport outfit. Like, I want to look put together for my airport looks.

[B]

Like, I. I wear it. I. Words record and I. But yeah, I'll travel with it because it's so comfortable. I have it in black. This is the espresso.

[A]

I think this comes in tons of colors.

[B]

No, it comes in tons of color, but I have the espresso on the way. Yeah, it's such a good.

[A]

Really comfy. It makes you look really put together. I just, like. I feel really, like, chic walking around. Like, look at me. I have a set.

[B]

Yes. And I'm wearing. This is the FP Movement. Go to long sleeve set in victory red. Just the pants. So I do have the shirt, but it is more of a sweatshirt. Like a light sweatshirt off the shoulder. Very cute. But it's 90 degrees today, so I just. This shirt is not happy movement, but the pants are. We both wanted to wear it, but we have so much stuff from FP Movement. They have their own stores. I went to the store recently in the Century City Mall.

[A]

Oh, you did?

[B]

Yeah. It was just buying all kinds of stuff. Everything's so soft. Such incredible activewear. And it is by free people. So whether you're hunting, hiking, flowing training, or grabbing a matcha or coffee, obviously I would never grab a match. Podcasting, traveling. FB Movement blends your performance and style, so you never have to choose between the two. So we just love this brand. We just picked out some stuff that we have on the way. They have great, like, totes and bags, great jackets, pullovers, half zips and shorts. I'm, like, obsessed with the shorts. Skorts. If you really. If you want to work out, do your pickleball. Whatever cute activities you have going on in like, a skirt hybrid, they have that tanks. I got a great sports bra I'm so excited about. And I was like, shopping online of, like, low Impact versus medium impact for my giant tits. And just really because like acts exercise. Because there are sports bras. You can do yoga and you can't run in.

[A]

No, I don't. Somebody who doesn't actually exercises, they have them all.

[B]

We just love it, you guys. We are such, such fans. And like Raina said, if you don't work out, it doesn't matter because this is stuff we're wearing like day to day again, even to like travel in. So we're on a vacation. Whatever you guys want to do, get into it. You can visit free people.com GGE to shop their full line of activewear and workout gear. That is freepeople.comGGE okay, Raina, hit us with the Manosphere.

[A]

Listen, stop shading me. I wanted to watch it. I wanted to be in the culture.

[B]

I said we can put it on the outline, but I refuse to watch it and give it my energy. But you can tell me about it.

[A]

So Lewis Theroux, he's a documentary maker. He made this documentary called the Manosphere on Netflix. It's 90 minutes. It's a quick watch. I don't think I could adjusted it any longer than that. It's all these like red pill influencers that they're all built in the image of Andrew Tate. That's what they all seem like. They really hate women. It's alpha male, everything. It's stack money, build wealth. They're just. It's hard to digest them. And I don't want to platform these people, so I'm not going to say their names or anything. But Louis Thoreau, he got interviews with all them, which is pretty tough to do. They're really not going to like gift their image to somebody else and have somebody else have like editing power over them. And I sort of was like, what is the point of all this going to be? Like, what is the takeaway supposed to be? And part of it, you know, he digs into all their relationships. I mean, hurt people, hurt people as part of it. I'm just like all these people. I certainly do not feel bad for these men. They're creating a lot of harm. But all of them come from broken families and tough upbringings. They didn't come to this like, I hate women, stack wealth, alpha male version, having grown up in a healthy, stable home. But they just look so embarrassing. And it makes me laugh so hard how embarrassing they so okay, is the tone mocking them? He just basically the tone cook. Yes. He just kind of lets them cook. It is neutral, but like, yes, Louis Theroux is like, these people are problematic, obviously, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's like, I'm just. I'm gonna bring your partners on and let them talk. I mean, watching them fumble. One of them, it was so funny. He films him getting into like a little altercation with his mom. And he's like, so masculine, hates women. But he's like talking to his mom. And his mom's like, I ordered juice for you. And he's like, I want a juice. And she was like, I ordered a juice for you. Don't talk to me like this. And he's like, mommy, I don't want to have a juice. I mean, you're gonna see the screenshot. You gotta see the screenshot of him with his mom.

[B]

Mommy, I don't want a juice. All right. Yeah, I mean, I've seen a couple clips against my will. And these guys are total jokes. They're not masculine in any way. They, they wish, they think they are. They're not. That's not what masculinity is. They're fucking pathetic. But the discourse surrounding it is that they're just grifters and they don't believe their own bullshit. And I'm sure there's a spectrum of it. These men certainly aren't feminists that are cosplaying toxic men. But they're playing into it for money and clicks and all the things. Like, I. I'm curious what they really do believe because they're such grifters. So many of these people don't even know what they're saying. Some of these people don't have a value system at all. And if you told them tomorrow, we need you to be a feminist, they might take that bait, you know, like, it really is the grossest kind of person at all that actually does not have that value system and morals, and they'll just do whatever it takes to make a buck or to be famous.

[A]

The grift is deep with this society. I mean, they just say the most inflammatory, horrible things.

[B]

The worst, the better.

[A]

Jewish people about women. And, you know, it's unfortunate that, like, kids are attracted to this and they talk a little bit about why, but it is. They just look so. They also don't seem like they're having fun. They're just. They talk about, like, how much money they have and all these girls they fuck and all of them practice one way monogamy, where, like, their partners are monogamous. They're not. But none of them seem like they're having fun.

[B]

They're not. They hate Themselves. And that's the karma you have to think about when you see these people. I mean, no one hates himself more than Donald Trump and he has to live with that. And what a sad life, you know, but he's causing so much harm and these people are causing harm. So it's not enough of a punishment. But you have to know it. The self loathing is real. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know, like, is this a net positive? I guess what I. Platforming these people? Yeah, I. What I do like is that. And I'm not sure if they focus on this in the doc, but there are young boys who come to a crossroads in their life for whatever reason when they're feeling lost or left out among their peers, or they can't get dates or whatever they're feeling. And their parents aren't as involved. And they really can go one of two ways and they can dive into this red pill world or they can find someone like Scott Galloway and look to them for their version of masculinity. And I just hope parents realize that. And I think when I see content like this, I hope it's a cautionary tale for parents of boys that they can make sure they don't lose their son to this.

[A]

Their lives don't look glamorized. I watch these men and I think like, you look so pathetic, you look so angry. You talk about confidence, but you actually look like the least confident people in the room. You say the most disgusting, horrifying things just for money and clout. And all of these guys are a part of like financial MLMs where like, if you just sign up for my course and all of these are backed by institutions that do not have good reputations and they look ridiculous.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the funniest thing about this that I wanted to tell you. Okay, did you, you did watch previews for this?

[B]

No, I've literally just seen clips like kfc, like a few tiktoks.

[A]

Okay, so I will play this. I'm play you this guy, the Lewis Thoreau.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Do you recognize this voice?

[B]

I was entering the manosphere. A wild frontier of streamers. I mean, it sounds familiar.

[A]

Why, it's the jiggle jiggle guy. My money don't jiggle jiggle. It folds. I was like, I know this voice. This is crazy.

[B]

But what was that from?

[A]

That was from an interview that he did with the girl that she also went on like that Andrew Garfield, like, interview date.

[B]

Oh, chicken shop date.

[A]

I think it's from Chicken Shop. I might have made that advice. But anyways, yes, I watched it. I think these people look so fucking embarrassing. And I hope that's what most people that watch them see is that they are hypocrites and ridiculous and their lives don't look that great.

[B]

And parents of boys just use it as a cautionary tale. Okay, so Age of Attraction on Netflix. Remember when Nick and Natalie, Nick Vile and his wife Natalie were announced to host this? I feel like it's forever ago. I feel like this has taken forever. I thought it was. I was like, is this season two? Did I miss season one? So I was so excited for it. So Nick and Natalie are hosting it. They have an 18 year age gap, I think, and it is about age gaps and relationships. And the structure of the show is pretty unique, I think, where they just throw all these people together and they can kind of do what they want. There's no like date cards or they just let them hang out and meet each other and then go on dates. What I think is interesting is that I don't know if they're forcing them to pick someone who's the, like, who's younger or older. What if two youngs wanted to get together? Or two olds, but I mean, they

[A]

call them old and young.

[B]

No, I just doing that. I hope that's okay. So it's just they've picked people who like someone with an age gap. Yeah. So they've picked men that like younger women and women who like younger men and vice versa. And then they vibe and they talk and then they go on these dates and. And then they can decide to go into the Promise Room. And they go into the Promise Room and this isn't like a proposal type situation, but the Promise Room is where they exchange these promise rings and they reveal their ages. So we don't know their ages as we're watching it. And they don't know their ages either. They're. They're sworn to secrecy, to not share. I don't know if they're whispering it off camera, but then they reveal it in this Promise Room situation and then that's when they decide if they want to go into the world together. Like go back to their hometowns, meet their families, meet their kids and friends and things like that. So I haven't gotten to that part yet. I'm only in the first few episodes. But these age gaps, there's a real range. So spoiler alerts ahead. But they start with the first Promise Room couple is the woman is 54 and the guy is 27 and is

[A]

that the one that looks like Harry or.

[B]

Yes, he looks like Prince. Harry.

[A]

Harry.

[B]

Okay. Her kids are 25 and 29.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he's younger than her oldest. And there's a 60 year old man with a 27 year old girl, but he did not look six. So here's the thing, they have cast

[A]

people, it's crazy that look young, everybody looks young. And it was fascinating to watch it because normally you would say like John, comma, 38, lives in whatever the fuck. There's no ages. And I'm looking at these people and I don't know. And almost all. A lot of them have kids. So like, so many of them are like, I have two kids, I have three kids. You're like, they could be any age. Yeah.

[B]

And there was this one girl who, she was 22. I knew she was 22. I was like, she's 22.

[A]

She's.

[B]

That's the only age. She's 22. And the guy, I was like, there's no way there's anyone in their 30s on this show because it won't work. 30s is too young for the young people and too old for the old people. Like, but Regardless, he was 38. Yeah. Shashank and I are watching this and we're trying to guess before they get to the Promise Room, which is like such a fun game. And so I was like, he's got to be at least 40. I just don't think anyone in their 30s is on the show. I think that would be like against the whole premise. And he was 38 and she, it was like, I think she was playing it up. I think they have to act surprised. But she was like, oh my God, I can't believe it. He has a 14 year old daughter. How old did you think he possibly could have been? She knew he had a 14 year old daughter and she was like, how could you be 38? But that one's not that glaring. But it's, it is interesting. This one woman, this Asian woman, it was like, her face is 20 and she's 55 or something crazy.

[A]

The ages of these people, I can't guess any of their ages.

[B]

I feel like they chose a few young people that even appear older. And you know what I think is very funny? When the young women are in the room with the old men and then they have to be like, I thought you were older. Like, they have to say it. They have to be like, you're 22. I thought you were 28. And you're like, ouch, Right?

[A]

Like you're being, they have to say,

[B]

you're being told, I thought you were older.

[A]

Okay, you know what's wrong? Surprised me the most about this show because they are flown to this undisclosed location. Where they flown to?

[B]

I don't know, they're in the woods

[A]

somewhere in the middle of nowhere. But I didn't realize like none of these people live in the same places. So that is like the big, to me it is a bigger obstacle than picking somebody with a big age range is like, do these people want to move to a different city? They have families. Like one person was like, I live in Texas. The other person's like, I live in New York. And I was like, oh, they're not moving 100%.

[B]

Yes. Like love is blind. They're all in the same area. They aren't even in the same tri state area on this show. Like it's a lot, a lot of these are not going to work out. It's just for good tv. But as I'm watching it, I just feel like I have a lot of opinions on age. Whatever you want to do is fine. I think 20, 20, 24, 24, 25 years old into 30s, into 40s even feels like fair game. I think when you're 21, 22, it still feels like really young to date men in their 40s. But again, whatever you want to do, 20s, 30s, 40s, I'm like, whatever is fine. That's Nick and Natalie. And I just, you see it all the time and it, you look appropriate together. You don't look like a father and daughter or a mother and a son. When you get into your 50s and you're seeking out partners in their 20s, it feels like something else is going on there. I'd be curious what a therapist would say. It just feels like this person could be at the age of your child or they are the age of your child. Easily two generations removed. Two generations removed. Like if you, you've lived so much life in your late 40s, 50s, 60s even and you want someone who's like childlike, like it feel when it's a man seeking out a young woman, it feels really predatory. Women who do it, I'm just like, what's going on here? There's some unmet need and whatever you want to do is fine. If you fall in love with someone that you didn't expect, that's different. But it's just interesting to me to be 50 plus and be seeking out 20 somethings and it gives me the ick.

[A]

We talked about this before. We talked about Professor Chesko. I mean you are seeking out somebody that can't challenge you in any way. You're seeking out somebody who doesn't have the life experience to call you out on your behavior and say in my experience I didn't have any boundaries when I was 22, 23, 24. I didn't know what a boundary was. I couldn't draw a boundary. I had a boyfriend who was super emotionally abusive. I couldn't name any of the behaviors. He was older than me and more experienced and he liked that dynamic. He enjoyed that I had no input into his behavior because I didn't have the information.

[B]

Information 100. But also you want someone that looks like a child. That's, there's that whole thing too. But women, it's, it's fascinating to me. A 50 year old woman who is seeking out a guy in his 20s. I don't want this to be one sided. What the could you want with them? It feels like if you just want one night with them, we got a housella got her groove back thing, great go off queen. But I to be in a relationship with a guy in his. I wouldn't do it now. So it just is like how could you possibly. The person's not on your level.

[A]

I mean it's just you're like seeking something which is just like kind of a toy. Right. Like I think the partner you pick is the most important decision you will ever make in your entire life. It's the person who informs how you spend your days, spend your money, gives you advice that you have to give advice to and support. Like I don't. That's another child to me, that's just another kid to support.

[B]

Yeah. And there's just, I'm into the psychological aspect of it. You know, I think if you were doing something as consenting adults, fine. I really don't want to judge whatever you want to do if your intentions aren't predatory. But when I see a young guy, young 20s, seeking out women who are 50 plus who look older, like that feels like a mom thing. It's all tied into something and this is just me being curious about it. And I think the show is a fascinating watch and I like Nick and Natalie on it. I mean we've had Nick on the show, we've been on his show. He, they're not on it too much. Like they're kind of in and out. It's like kind of a Nick and Vanessa in terms of screen time. But I think it's, it's Interesting. And you know, you guys should check it out.

[A]

Yeah, I like it. Listen there. Their age gap is 17 years. I don't think it's so crazy. I think they were at a very similar stage of life.

[B]

They're in the same wavelength. I mean, I would never date someone who wasn't. I'm going to marry now. But I wouldn't date someone who wasn't a millennial. I always say, like cultural references. You know, Shashank is seven years younger than me. I would never, probably wouldn't go much younger than that. But I used to date. I say loosely, I dare to date a guy and I hooked up with a couple guys who were 10 years younger than me. But it's funny, when I was in my 20s, I wouldn't date a guy in his 30s. 40s. Disgusting.

[A]

I was like, that's so gross. That is the oldest person I could ever imagine in my 20s.

[B]

And then when I was in my 30s, I'm dating guys in their 20s, like, whatever. But again, it's, you know, whatever you want to do.

[A]

But personal preference, I've always kind of liked people around the same age as me or just slightly younger.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, well, let's just go through our headlines quickly and we will send you guys off. So tsa, the airports are a shit show.

[A]

Jesus Christ. I mean, at first I thought like, this is sensationalized. This is like, these are these videos. Like sometimes people will pull old videos. I mean, it is crazy at the airports right now.

[B]

It just depends. I mean, I have, I've traveled. You've traveled. We didn't run into to anything. It feels like it's only a matter of time. But again, I just. What I hate is when people are like, this isn't happening because I didn't experience in it today at an airport. It's like, yeah, it doesn't fucking. It's happening. It takes a bunch of different factors for these systems to break down. And now TSA workers aren't getting paid, so it's a matter of which ones are going to show up. I mean, you know, it's really Texas happens in red states more. I will say that. But Texas is always a shit show. And It's. I saw LaGuardia and so it's a mess. And they're talking about some airports may have to get shut down. And that could just mean smaller airports with less staff. But it is a disaster. And I just can't believe like what the government is spending money on like ptags. The Pentagon spent $93 billion in one month and like millions of dollars on what? Fucking like lobster and furniture and all this stuff. I can't even talk about it because my heart rate will skyrocket. But like, they have money. We have plenty of money. What they're spending it on is fucking sick.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, we, we elect officials to make our lives better and now the American people are paying the price. And yeah, I will say I was at JFK, LAX and Reagan Airport in D.C. this week. I had no problems. But I also have clear. So I don't go through the same lines as everybody else. I pay for clear. But I mean to see that people are just paying the price like this. The one vacation they take a year, the two vacations they take a year, everyone's missing their flights. No one can get anywhere. It's like, I know it's just like a vacation, but it's like heartbreaking.

[B]

But it's not always a vacation. It's going to a funeral.

[A]

I mean me, it was work.

[B]

Going to see someone, a family member who's sick, going to someone's wedding, going to someone who just had a baby. I mean, it's life's moments that we travel for.

[A]

Had other people. I, I also was just at the airport for work. I was at the airport to show.

[B]

Yeah, I mean I had a nightmare situation coming back. So I was coming back from Seattle and it had nothing to do with this. It snowed in Seattle in March. The airport was not equipped to de ice all these planes. I was an hour delayed. And then I sat on the plane for three hours.

[A]

No, it was crazy.

[B]

And then so I left the hotel at 7:45 in the morning. I got home at 6pm like it was almost a full like 12 hour travel day. And like sitting on the plane on the Runway is like something else. But I was like, that's global.

[A]

I had like a really Friday. I just like really could not talk to anybody. I didn't have the capacity to do it. I did four shows in two days. I was so tired. I was like, no one talked about. And then I watched your stories and I was like, I cannot believe the day that she went through. And you really like did not talk to me about it. And I was like, this is a day. I'm so glad she has a husband. Because like, if I had to be there for you that day, I was just in bed all day. I slept the entire day. And like, I was like, my God, like what she has been through today is unbelievable. And you really did not complain to me about it. And I was like, shashank really took one for the team on this one. I'm sure you're complaining to him about it all day, but it's like, I don't know.

[B]

Like, I'm not like, oh, my God. I mean, I was posting a few things, trying to keep it light, like, shit happens, you know, I was lucky to get back. Like, I did the show with chicks in the office, and none of them got back. They also sat on their plane for hours, went out to get de iced. They ran out of deicing fluid. Then the crew timed out, and there were no flights out of Seattle and they got a private jet, so good for them. The following day, they had to make it to a show in San Diego. They posted all about it. So they made out, but I was like, I just want to get home. And however long it is, like, I was working on the plane, I was trying to make the best of it because I was like, everybody's doing their best, you know, like, no one on the flight was complaining. I mean, no one was even huffing and puffing. We were all just like, it is what it is. And when we got off the plane, the flight crew was like, thank you guys for being so great. You know, like, okay, so the next headline, Access Hollywood is canceled after 30 years. And we are on it today.

[A]

We finally made it. They canceled this show. And they're like, well, I'm on.

[B]

We got in under the gun.

[A]

For the record, we were booked on this show before.

[B]

Yeah. So this is really sad. I mean, it's been so long running. Obviously, Mario Lopez, A.C. slater himself, is the co host, and Kit is who we're going to be with if you guys want to watch today. And we knew we were booked on this, and then I saw that it got canceled. I sent it to you and our publicist. It was like, are we still. Are we still on this? Like, I booked glam, but, yeah, like, shows are going to keep running until, like, this will be the last.

[A]

Well, some do.

[B]

I just.

[A]

I knew that Colbert got canceled and then it was going to run through the end of the season, so I assumed that it would keep running. But, yeah, we made it. We finally made it onto Access Hollywood, you guys. They just had to cancel the show.

[B]

That's. That's what happened. They booked us and they were like, this show's over.

[A]

That's who you guys are booking now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. This headline really just. It made me laugh because I. Once I dug into it, Lewis Hamilton smitten over Kim Kardashian's 2026 Vanity Fair Oscar party look as romance heats up. And I was like, what in the world did he do? He commented a heart eyes on her Instagram. Smitten as romance.

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

Just a heart eyes. That's it. Okay. I feel like I would be really bad as like a super famous person because like you'd be doing stuff all the time. I would do stuff like this. All the kind of headlines I could get for doing an emoji. I would be acting crazy in these streets.

[B]

Yeah, it's so crazy though. Like we don't have enough going on the hard eyes. It's a whole ass headline. Smitten. And lastly, we just have some celeb couple speculation. Yeah, People are saying Alex Earl and Tom Brady are done and that Alex Earl may be dating Joe Burrow and Tom Brady may be dating Yale Scooter Braun's ex wife.

[A]

And then Braxton, Alex Earl's ex was allegedly spotted New York with Sophia Culpo. That's his ex. And she basically said that he had cheated on her with Alex Earl. She outright said it with her whole chest or just implied it. But then she said it wasn't me. Okay, it does look like her, but she said it wasn't me. So all of this is speculation, but this is just like a big triangle. Also, Joe Burrow, Alex Earl was just getting into the car with him. Also, Tate McCrae was in the car. Okay, so people, just, people don't be knowing.

[B]

Okay, I don't care that much. But anyway, I know we just want to tell you guys, Alex, Alex Earl and Joe Burrow seem like. I like that seems like a likely match. Tom Brady, that was just. It was fun to. To watch, but that was never gonna. That wasn't like a couple we were like shipping at all. Okay, guys, well, that is your snack. Catch us on Access Daily. To be clear, Access Daily with Mario and Kit and that airs on NBC. It is 1pm on the West Coast, 2pm in most east coast markets, but just check your local listings for NBC Access Daily. And the episode will be posted online. So if you miss it, we will post clips from it and post the segment. And we're going to be talking about some fun friendship stuff. And our show, which will be here in LA with Netflix, is a joke festival on May 7th. So you guys can get tickets to that. We're so excited. We're planning some really fun things and it's going to be like hot and sexy and funny and all the things. So get tickets atgirls gotta eat.com and follow us on Instagram at Girls Gotta Eat podcast. Also on TikTok girls gotta eat Podcast. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina is raina.greenberg raina greenberg.com for her tour tickets. Watch full video of these episodes on YouTube and now on Spotify and we will see you Monday.

[A]

Have a good weekend guys.

[B]

Bye. Bad day. Watch this.

[A]

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