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This week on the snack off campus, the summer house reunion and the New York Knicks.
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This is a Dear Media production.
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Enjoy.
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Hi, guys.
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Hello. Big TV week this week across the country. Do you like my parted slick bag?
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I'm very jealous. I can't do it with hair extensions. I'm very jealous. I love the look so much.
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I'm, like, not gassing myself up. I wanted to ask you, have you seen the term partless slick back, also
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known as a ponytail?
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A ponytail. I cannot. With these rebranding. I guess the Kylie Jenner is, like, at the helm of this, but I've been seeing this. Do you like my partless slick back? Partless slick back. That's a ponytail.
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So my hairdresser, Mary Kate, she does a lot of interviews for, like, Glamour and Cosmo Ballet Hair trends every year. And she was saying to me, like, every year they ask me, like, what are the trends for winter? And she's like, people go darker in the winter. That's the trend. And she's like. But every year, I'm tasked with having to, like, come up with a new name for it. Like. Like, she's like smokey brown. Like, she's like, I don't know what else to say about this. And it's like, a partless slick back is hysterical.
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Partless slick back is insane. I mean, I'm here for this. This is entertaining to me. I think years ago we talked about the liquid brunette or some. Some stupid rebrand, and all the comments were like, that's brown. That's brunette. You guys get out of here with this.
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They just need to find new ways to market to people. I'm so jealous you can do that. I just can't. If I put a bunch of oil in my hair and slicked it, you'd see all the hair extensions. So jealous. I feel like people don't still don't get it.
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No, you have hair extensions. I think people think you cut off your hair. But, guys, she still has.
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I mean, just.
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Just for the sake of transparency.
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Well, we will also discuss this on Monday even. But, yeah, so basically, I cut. Yeah, I chopped the existing extensions, but I still have the same extensions in. I just cut them short and I'm getting them replaced on Saturday. And I'm gonna put more extensions in. I need volume. I have no hair.
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Well, I think this is a big reveal. I think people. She cut her hair. She cut her extensions off. That's her hair.
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Listen, the word extension is misleading. It's like fingering. Like, okay, people think, like, fingering I grew up thinking, like, that was the only way to have an orgasm, when clearly it's not.
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I.
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No one has an orgasm from getting physically just jammed into extensions. Imply you are extending something. I'm not. I'm adding volumizing.
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Volumizing. These are your volumizers? Yeah. You need to bar some of Taylor Swift's bangs. I mean, people were bad. We talked about her.
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You mean Travis, Kelsey's girlfriend? Travis, Kelsey's girlfriend.
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We'll get to it. But at the end of the day, I wish I could have a bang that thick. If I had Taylor Swiss bangs, whether they're a clip on or not, that would be my all my hair. If I had a bang that thick, that would be my whole head. So I'm jealous.
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People are gonna get mad about everything. People have been. I'm not gonna get into it, but people have been being really sensitive about stuff on the Internet lately. And it's fine. You could be mad about. You have a right to be mad about whatever you want to be mad about. You don't have a right to expect anybody to do anything about it. And it's ok. You could not like that. We're talking about her bangs and I'm not gonna stop.
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And she's beautiful and we are gonna ride for her in this episode. Okay? Let's partners and then we will get into it.
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year after watch every year after streaming June 10th only on Prime Video. Okay, so we are going to kick it off with a family report. Lots of family news, lots of family values, family friendly news this week. Do you want to kick it off?
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So, yeah, Hooters has decided to rebrand as being family friendly friendly. And they said that they never switched from just being a neighborhood place, a beachside restaurant, a place of whimsy. Now they're rebranding. It's called Hooters, you guys. It's called tits. You named your restaurant tits?
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It's literally a word for tits. Call it tooters if you want or make it all about owls. Turn this into a rainforest cafe. Do anything. But you can't. You can't call it titties and then be like, we're family friendly also. What by the beach. The Hooters we would go to in Delaware for, like, special occasions. Our friends turning 18 for one was like off Route 13. It was off the highway and not the greatest part of town. Since when is it beachside?
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It's not mainstream. They put those places in strip malls so you don't see people walk in there.
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So, yes, the quote. The fast food chain. This is from the article. The fast food chain known for its waitresses or Hooters, girls who serve food, dress in revealing outfits is working to establish its brand as a neighborhood place. CEO Neil Kiefer told people. Kiefer defined Hooters as a beach themed place centered around the Hooters girls, good food, and being an easy place to relax. Okay, beach themed. I get it. That's like a Margaritaville. I can support a beach theme, but it's alive beach theme. To me, it's giving flyover state vibes. Beach theme.
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It's just like a. It's like calling Fridays beach themed. I mean, it's just not. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Okay. Just relax on the Friday. Slander.
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You think Friday's beach theme.
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Friday signifies a good time?
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No, I wouldn't say it's like calling chili is American themed. It's just not.
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I think they're trying to pull off a Margaritaville or a Senior Frogs. That's what they're trying to do. You can't call it Hooters. I think call it Tudors. Like I said, just one.
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Tudors means to fart. So, like to.
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In my day, Tudors were the test tube shots that we would carry around when we cocktail waitress. When I was the rusty rudder, the worst cocktail waitress they've ever seen, we would carry around. They were called tutor racks. There's different words. I'm just saying you can't name it after tits and say you're family friendly. We have to start there.
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They're like, you guys don't get it. You're actually stupid. We called this knockers and you guys are actually dumb. And I think women and children should come here.
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We call this knockers. I support knockers. You're like, why? It's because you knock on the door to get in.
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Even nipples would be more like gender inclusive than Hooters. Like nips.
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This is kind of fun. I like napes.
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Yeah.
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And everything. Bottles. Yeah.
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Yeah. So I don't know. Good luck to them. I don't really see that happening. Honestly, every other chain on earth is more family friendly than Hooters. I can't think of one chain on Earth. Even BJ's.
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Even.
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What's that one where. What's that one where they're mean to you? It's called like rusty dicks or something.
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It's all crapp dicks, crabby dicks. That's so funny. Krabby Dicks is more family friendly than food or. And that's fine.
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You know, I thought it was Rusty Dicks, which sounds crazy, right?
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You're gonna die. Crabby Krabby Dicks. So Krabby Dicks is only in Delaware, but it says at the top of it, Krabby Dicks has been voted number one family friendly restaurant in Delaware. World famous.
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You called it, first of all, Krabby. It sounds like an std. Dicks, you named it after the male genitalia. And everything in Delaware is number one. Of course. It's the number one family food.
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World famous. Okay, where are they mean to you? Okay, sorry. It says Dick's Last Resort. This is a premier chain designed for intentionally rude service insults. Las Vegas, Orlando, New Orleans, Gatlinburg and Myrtle Beach. Those all tracks. Dick's Last Resort. Yes. Putting the f you in fun. And they are mean to you. I love this. Honestly, sometimes, I mean, honestly. You could also just go to a Zara in New York City and have.
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Actually, that's what's gonna interrupt you. It's the direct pipeline from Crabby Dicks directly into Zara. It is an immediate pipeline. This is what you do in high school and college. And the adults from those places go to Zara. Okay, I was gonna let you finish your sex.
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I know. I want to walk back. Crabby Dicks in Delaware. It's not.
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They're not mean to you.
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As far as I know. It's a family friendly, number one rated. So Dick's Last Resort is where you guys need to go if you want to be abused by the staff.
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Yeah. Okay. So good luck, Hooters, to your rebrand to Nipples. You can feel free to take that or knockers or fun bags or whatever you want to call them.
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But. Okay, so next in the family report, Donald Trump skips his own son's wedding. Which one? Don Jr. Butthead of Beavis and Butthead.
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He got married to Bettina in the Bahamas. And Donald Trump was asked, will you be going to your son's wedding? Who would even think to ask a father if they were going to their son's wedding? Honestly, I mean, the things that Donald Trump is willing to do. I mean, this seems pretty low on the list. I mean. And his responses went as follows. He would like me to go. I'm going to try. This is not good timing for me. I have a thing called Iran and other things. He really thought he ate down with that. He thought a little thing called Iran. What a King.
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Then he said, I've known him for a long time. So he always fumbles his words. And I guess you could say he may be talking about the wife or the fiance at the time, like Bettina. But the way he says it isn't. He's known his son for a long time. It was totally insane. I mean he doesn't know what he's saying. He's completely, completely incoherent. He's sundown at all times. He hates his son, he hates his family, he hates himself. Like obviously he's not going. And I saw a theory that he can't get into the Bahamas cuz he's a felon. And I think that's been disproved. But that was my favorite theory, that the Bahamas won't let in a convicted felon, which is him, who is the President of the United States. But I don't think that's accurate. But I'm gonna run with it. That he actually couldn't get in, he couldn't get into his son's wedding and maybe his son actually had it in the Bahamas cause he couldn't get in. But I don't think that's true.
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So that. No, no, that's the truth. I'm sure that's the truth. Also his next choice of words, insane. If I do attend, I get killed. That's an insane thing to say in tandem with the war that you started against everybody's will. And if I don't attend, I get killed by the fake news. I mean, this is the thing you decided to like stand on business about. He was like, you don't know Ball, I gotta stay at the White House and do Iran.
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Well, there was some stuff going down. I guess they like J.D. vance came and I don't know, I mean, whatever, it's the apocalypse every day, so who knows what's going on. But it's just so crazy.
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I mean, he doesn't care. He could handle that from the parking lot of a Wendy's for all he cares. Like he could have just handled it from the Bahamas. This, this. He's like, I am going to do the right thing for the American people now and ignore my children who I don't care about anyways.
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Again. It's like if he wasn't the President, this would be hilarious. I mean when you read the transcript of anybody talking about attending their child's wedding and the language used, you're like this, this is an insane response.
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I mean you and I talk about this all the time. If this wasn't the President. This would be the funniest person alive. I've been laughing all morning about this. Like, I've known him for a long time. Your son.
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I've known him for a long time. He's like, I wish I didn't, but unfortunately, that's my son. Can you imagine marrying one of those brothers? Oh, my God.
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So disgusting.
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Well, speaking of his family, and on a more serious, just maddening note, the IRS is dropping audits of Trump and his family.
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When you say dropping, you mean, like, letting go of it?
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They can't audit him, so I'll explain. The Justice Department has granted President Trump his family and businesses immunity from ongoing inquiries into their taxes, a potentially lucrative arrangement that could shield the president from significant financial liability. So he was suing the IRS, and in this settlement deal, which also created the $1.8 billion slush fund that he was going to use for the insurrectionists of January 6, among other things, his allies, he also stuck in this provision that it said the government would be forever barred and precluded from prosecuting or pursuing pending tax claims against Mr. Trump, his family members, and businesses, which is just absolutely illegal. I mean, this is everything our government, our Constitution, is supposed to stand for. We should all be protesting this. Like, every single person in Congress knows that this is wrong. I mean, these spineless Republicans who will just allow this to happen, they know it's wrong. And this just goes to show how much of our legal system this man has eroded over the past decade to even allow this to happen. I mean, this is insane. Like, you can get audited. I can get audited. Your friends, your family, Anyone can get audited except the president and his family. That should enrage anyone. And if it doesn't, you're just completely unintelligent or you're in a cult or both. I mean, this is unbelievable. He's, like, robbing the country in so many ways. He's stealing your tax dollars for his personal gain, for his family and his friends on so many different levels. Like, everyone should be outraged. Like, we pay so much money in taxes. Like, this basically says they don't have to pay their taxes because if they can't get audited, then there's. They're not able to be held accountable.
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And it's like, why? Well, why should I have to pay taxes?
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Exactly.
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I mean, significantly less money and significantly less investments, and I have a more vested interest, and it would materially help me to not pay taxes. Why do I have to do this? I didn't even vote for this person, it shouldn't.
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Yeah, it should enrage everybody. Why do you have to pay your taxes? You could get audited for the smallest infraction. But the president and all his family and all of his just scammy businesses, the people that owe so much money. I mean, he owes so much money already, and they're like, oh, can't investigate it.
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He promised he was gonna do all this, so.
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Yeah, I mean, he's been doing this his whole career. He's just. I can't believe what our country and our Congress is allowing to happen. Obviously, there's people speaking out about this, and I think they are dismantling that. That slush fund. I don't know, like, the current status of it, but this is just unbelievable. Totally illegal, and it's just so unfair. Like, the. Our tax rules and enforcement framework has to apply to everybody. The president's not an exclusion. Like, I don't even have the words for this.
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You know, it's just important. Ashley and I, you know, we want to joke around about this stuff. It is important to make jokes, and this is a fun show, but also to not lighten it up to the point that we forget what's actually happening. And so, you know, we always want to see both sides of the coin here.
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I mean, where's the law and order crowd on this? This man is robbing the country blind.
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Okay, well, let's talk about the New York Knicks.
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You know what's so funny right now? Like, I forget, they're called the Knickerbockers. Bobby Westside wrote something about the bikers. Or the way he said it, I was like, that's very funny.
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Obviously, I forget, too.
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Every person says the Knicks, obviously, but the New York. The Knickerbockers. It really makes me.
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What is a Knickerbocker? Do you know?
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Is it a pant?
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A pant? Like pantalones. They named a team after pants.
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The Knickerbockers trait. Yeah. Traces back to the style of pants worn by original Dutch settlers in the 1600s. It became a nickname for New Yorkers in general.
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Got it. Okay.
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The team was founded in 1946 and is one of the only two original NBA franchises, alongside the Celtics, still remaining in its original city. Interesting. Interesting. Okay, so the Knicks won semifinals. They are going to the finals. They will play the San Antonio spurs or the Oklahoma City Thunder. And we may not know until Saturday, which is game seven, who they will play. So by the time this airs, we won't know. But the Knicks are Going to be in the finals. And it just. It really looked like New York was electric. You are there.
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It's, like, so fun and, like, the bars have been so fun, and it's just been like, you know, anytime, you know, your city's doing well. And I'm not. Not a basketball fan, but I didn't grow up with basketball. Pittsburgh doesn't have a basketball team. And I went to Indiana University, which is a real basketball school, but Bobby Knight was gone by the time I got there. And so I just. Basketball is not, like, in my wheelhouse, really, but it is fun to just be around. And I am enjoying all the content coming out about the. Which celebrities are sitting courtside. And I love just watching, like, Timo and Kylie just, like, sweet sway and be cute.
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Oh, it's not for you.
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You don't like it?
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I just don't like. I don't know. I don't feel the same way about them that I used to. He really.
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Did something happen?
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A little bit. I just. In general, I just feel like I. I don't know. I don't think of him the same way. It wasn't. I don't know how to describe it. He just kind of. He's just this, like, cocky bro to me now.
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I mean, she's the magic for me. No, I don't care about him. Like, she. She's the magic for me. Like, watching her look so happy and be so cute and silly courtside and like, you could sub in anybody. It's just cute to me.
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They're still cute. I just don't like. He kind of. Well, he just. He icks me a little bit, but, you know, I'm happy. Happy for them. So, yes, a lot of. A lot of celebs were courtside. And then Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift went to game four in Cleveland.
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Okay. So as the. As they're like, courtside of the Cavs game, my whole feed is this. And then you start hearing, like, the ESPN announcers talk about how Travis Kelce is the game, and they are refusing to say Taylor Swift's name. And the first time, it really caught me off guard. So Mike Breen is one of the announcers, and he has his. Travis Kelce and his fiance are at the game. And I just was like, wait, what? And then the next announcer, Richard Jefferson, jumps in as Travis Kelce and his girlfriend are in the building. That's always great to see. And it is. So. I mean, it was clearly on purpose. It's very strange to me. This guy thought he was gonna insult Taylor Swift. Eat down with that. It's so ridiculous. It's like saying Jay Z and his wife. It's so ridiculous. And this was meant as a dig to her and a slight. And you guys look so stupid doing this. You think you're gonna insult Taylor Swift this way by reducing her to this? And by the way, she doesn't care. She knows exactly who she is. And she's like, you want to call me this man's girlfriend? This guy? You won't say my name. Like, don't you find that so insane?
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I do. I think it's so lame because it comes across misogynistic. I do like calling Travis Kelce Taylor Swift's fiance, though.
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Yeah. Of course. On the other end, punch down on men.
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Exactly. Exactly. So I just want to clear that up. But yeah, it's. It's just purposeful to, like, make a dig at a woman. No, it's gross.
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Also, he is her fiance. He's not the most famous athlete alive. She is actually the most famous musician alive.
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I mean, in. But in a sports setting, he is more famous. Like, that's why they went that route. You know what I mean? He's the athlete in the room. It doesn't matter. It was still just like, what's the point of this?
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So I want you to talk about the next thing, and I'll. So she really showed up to support him as his girlfriend. I mean, she was giving girlfriend fiance energy in a way that, like, she just looks like just one of the girls.
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Yeah. So some people might know this, some people may not. That the Kelce's are from Cleveland, so I think people just associate them with Kansas City or Philly. They're from Cleveland. They grew up not too far from the basketball stadium. Cavs fans, at least Travis'. So this is like a hometown game for him, and he's excited to. So the cameras come on them, and he stands up and chugs a beer in an interesting way. He pours it into his mouth. He doesn't put his mouth on the lip of the can. He just chugs this beer. Taylor's sitting there like, oh, my God. But I will say she's, like, playfully embarrassed.
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She's like, I didn't think she seemed embarrassed. I thought she was like, that's my guy.
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That's what I'm saying. She's like, that's my man. But she kind of, you know, has her head down. Like, I saw these headlines of like, he did this horrific thing, and she was so embarrassed. And I Mean, it brought me right back to when the Chiefs won the super bowl. And he, in his speech after, did the, like, viva Las Vegas. And remember, he did it, like, too many times. And I was, like, cringing. And I do think she looked a little embarrassed then. But this is just who he is. Like, I am not attracted to this at all. This is not for me. But that doesn't matter if he's a Kelsey brother. They're going to chug some beer and pound their chest and act like a frat bro, and they're also going to respect women. So let him cook if this is what he wants to do. He's having fun. They're having fun, you know, like, if you're having fun, I support it. Like, if he's going to do that cringy bro stuff, it's just like, who cares? I don't know. We're being entertained. We're talking about it. She's going to do her, like, playful, embarrassed. But they're in love and they just love to party. Taylor Swift always has a drink in hand, sloshing around, dancing in the front row at any awards show. Like, I like to see them having fun. And, like, what I don't like is, like, kind of the energy we saw from Amanda and West, which he was standing up at some sporting event, yelling and screaming and being all bro y again, not for me. And she looked very embarrassed pulling him down. You know, it wasn't like, that's my man. Kind of like energy. And so I don't know. I just think, let him cook.
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That's why I love them as a couple. I mean, yeah, this is the most famous musician alive. And she's like, my man is standing up there chugging a beer like a frat bro, and I don't care. It's not that deep. Like, if he's having fun, he's excited. He's at his courtside game. Like, let him cook. Like, I love them as a couple because they're just not going to be embarrassed about this. And she could take herself as seriously as she would like to. She could say, I'm the biggest, baddest, most important person and I can't be associated with this type of behavior. But she's just like, look at him go. He's having fun. That's why I like them as a couple. It just makes me laugh. And, yeah, it would embarrass me if my man was just standing there pouring a beer in his mouth. But, like, I don't know if my man was Travis Kelce also. I'd be like, whatever he wants to do, it's fine. Like, he's just like, look at my girl. She does corny stuff too. He loves it. He loves everything she does, the way she is. And they publicly support themselves. And he could also be like, I'm an athlete. I take myself so seriously. They're just. They're fun to watch, man. When I was watching her watch him chug a beer, I was like, this just looks like. Like a college couple just courtside having fun.
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It's just. Yet there's like this part of me that is like, wants to crawl into the floor. And there's this part of me like, I love to chug a beer. I used to chug a beer for attention. Like, we used to. Any. Any beer chugging contest, we would send my brother up to Matt, just can one. One gulp. It's pretty insane to see. Like, if that's your talent, you should show it off. That used to be my talent. I would grab a beer funnel just laying around at a party and hold it up myself and fucking chug a beer. So it's like, if you have that skill set, just show it off on national TV during game four playoffs. Why not?
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I can really open my throat up, man. I can like, really take down a beer. Mostly like a beer bong, though. Like just straight out of a can. Harder. If I'm sucking out of a tube, though, I could really open that throat up.
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I can't do it anymore. And I will admit that. Remember we tried to do it in Chicago at that eatscon show years ago, and it'd been so long since I'd been challenged to chug a beer and I just.
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You were blindsided.
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I used to.
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No.
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And the very first time, I remember if summer in 99 and sophomore gonna be a junior, we were at these senior girls house. And Dewey, they had a house like after they graduated. And that was the first time I did like a big. A beer bong, like a beer funnel. And I did it over the tub and it just went right down. People were like, oh, my God, Ashley. Like, people are like, oh, my God, you're so good at this. I was like, I'll do this forever. Like, I was like, I will do this the rest of my high school and college career to show off. And so I still always will support a beer Chuck.
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I love it.
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Okay, one final question for you about Travis and Taylor at the. At the game. Was he asleep at one point or was he like, joking?
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I think he was Just, like, nuzzling into her a little bit. He didn't fall asleep at a Cavs game.
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He fell asleep drunk. After all those beers, that'd be.
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No. Come on.
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Okay, so Travis Kelsey was not asleep at the Cavs game. Well, a photo of him resting his head on Taylor Swift's shoulder during. Wait, game three. It was game four. Oh, sorry. That's my bad, guys. He was simply playing along for the cameras. Yeah, because they were losing. They were losing. Okay. Because their loss was imminent. Okay, got it. I just saw these photos, and I figured it was something playful, but, you know, just wanted to clear that up.
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Okay, well, we are gonna get into some college stuff in a moment, but we're just gonna thank our partners really quickly and then get right into it. Okay.
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I am telling you guys about every year after. I'm so excited to talk about this. This is based on the bestselling novel by Carly Fortune. It is gonna be a new prime original series which follows Sam and Percy across six summers as they take a second chance at love that never really let go. So I read this book a few summers ago. I remember posting about it, and everyone's like, I love that book so much. I really love Carly Fortune. I would say this is my favorite book from her, and it is so, so great. I mean, it's set at this lake. It really has that, like, lakeside summer nostalgia we all love so much. So feel good. And it really is the slow burn, friends to lovers, romance that will absolutely wreck you. I was just obsessed with this book. It sat with me for days afterwards. And if you love the book, the adaptation is really gorgeous. And if you haven't read it, you'll still love the show, obviously, so. Either or. But, you know, it doesn't start until June 10, so read the book now or not. Whatever you guys want to do. But we really, really love this. And we're so excited that they're making into a show. I cannot wait to see what they do with it. So you guys can check it out. Watch every Year after that is streaming June 10th only on Prime.
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Okay. And this episode is sponsored by Better Help. So May is mental health awareness month. And I want to remind you guys that whatever you are going through, you don't have to go through it alone. And, you know, I'm really lucky. I have incredible women in my life that I can turn to when things are really hard. Whether it's love, life, or job stuff or, you know, I've been talking so much about, like, where I want to live, and I have amazing women in my life that can help me, but not everybody has that. And also professional help can really help. You know, I think that sometimes I reach. I reach my max with the people around me. And professional help really helps. And you don't have to do things alone. It's really important to find somebody you can talk to and unpack these things with and set goals and try to unpack what you're feeling and what the path forward is. So better help can really help. Quality therapists are on their platform. They work according to a strict code of conduct and are fully licensed in the US they'll do the initial matching for you so you'll go on and talk about, like, what type of therapy you want to focus on, and they'll help you to suss out your needs. And with 12 years of experience and industry leading match fulfillment rate, they will typically get it right at the first time. But if they don't, they will find you a new match. And they have over 30,000 therapists on the platform. It's the world's largest online therapy platform. You don't have to be on this journey alone. Find support and have someone with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off@betterhelp.com GGE that's better. H E L P.com GGE okay, off
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campus, how excited are you? Oh, my God. Okay, so you guys have been telling us to watch this for weeks. It had been on my list. We were just really busy, so I finally got a chance to watch it. And I've been meaning every week when we have recorded this and act to be like, guys, I promise I'm gonna watch it. We're gonna watch it. But off campus, it's sweeping the nation. This is a show also on prime, which you guys know. What else is on Prime? My comedy special, here comes the Bride. So make sure to watch them both. But off campus, Raina, I can't believe I'm gonna say this. I think this is the most I have loved a show, and it has stuck with me since normal people. Whoa.
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Okay, that's my normal people's my favorite show.
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Like, is that not crazy? Like, I think this is, like, my second favorite show.
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Listen, I'm happy you found this.
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Raina doesn't like it, you guys. Raina doesn't like it. You're more Ashley's friend. This is the most defining Ashley's friend, Reina. So friend right here. Raina's not a puck bunny. I'm a puck bunny. Raina.
B
I'm a Puck bunny. Okay. For heated rivalry, we're both puck bunnies,
A
but in different ways. Obviously, we both love heated rivalry, but I love this so, so deeply. So it is based on a series of books by L. Kennedy. So there are like four, five, technically books in the series. They're all based on a different hockey player and their love interest. So this is like.
B
So this is straight. He did rivalry.
A
Yeah, no, it's similar, but in certain ways, but also not people comparing them. It's like just cause it's hockey. I think key to rivalry is just a completely different theme. I mean, this show off campus is obviously a straight romance. I think all of the love stories, I haven't read all the books I want to, they're all straight love stories. And so the premise that takes place in this college in Boston, the star hockey player, Garrett Graham, he's played by Belmont Comelli. And the lead actress is. Her name is Hannah Wells. In the show, she's played by Ella Bright. He wants her to tutor him. In exchange, he's going to pretend to be dating her to help her get the attention of her crush, who can only be described as Justin Bobby 2.0.
B
Is that not Justin Bobby? Actually, no. Today I had that immediate thought. That is Justin Bobby.
A
I first saw him on screen. I posted on Instagram stories. Welcome back. Justin Bobby.
B
That's him.
A
And light. Spoilers ahead. I would say. I mean, if you don't want to hear anything about the show and you want to be surprised, you don't listen. But I promise there's not going to be some, like, major spoiler. I mean, you can see by any of the previews that of course feelings are going to develop between these two. It's again, this tale as old as time. And then there are subplots with other characters. So I would say the first half of the show is really focused on Garrett and Hannah. And then the second half, there are some other characters as well. And then again, each season is going to be a different player, which I'm already upset about because I love Garrett Graham so deeply. Raina, this is the horniest I've been for someone I don't maybe ever. I am so horny for him. I think he is this phenomenal actor. I think they all are. I think Ella Bright is phenomenal too. But he is so sexy to me.
B
Like, I. I can't.
A
I am like, I shouldn't be watching this.
B
Well, he's 28. He's. The actor's 28.
A
No, just like, I'm like, I Should
B
be thinking, I'm like mayor, a married woman.
A
No, I'm kidding.
B
I just think he's so much pussy eating on this show. I mean, they are just constantly, the men on the show just eating pussy. Love you to see it.
A
It's really spicy. I mean, it is a hot show. I didn't know what to expect because I knew it was a lighter, more rom com energy, unlike heated rivalry. And it started so hot and heavy. There's so much sexual tension. There's this longing that we love this will they, won't they? You're like screaming at the tv, like, just tell her how you feel. And there's this scene in episode four. If you know the scene, you know, like, I was like biting the pillow. I was like, this. This is the. One of the hottest things I've seen.
B
Well, you know, I like mutual masturbation. It's my favorite thing.
A
And then I will say in the second half of the season, it really takes a more serious turn and it covers themes of childhood trauma, sexual assault, parental abuse. And they really dive into the friendships, like the friendships between the women and the guys and being vulnerable and like finding your purpose and finding your voice and figuring out what you want do to sexually. And just there's all these really great themes that they cover. And the friendship between Garrett and Logan, I just was loving how they were navigating the ups and downs and him sharing his trauma. I just, I love this show so, so much. And I have a couple things, like, I don't know if you noticed this. So Belmont Comelli, the actor that plays Garrett Graham, he has the voice of Steven DiMarco. Closing my eyes, I wouldn't be able to tell the two apart. Their voices are exactly, exactly the same. So I was like, he is Steven DeMarco. If he was hot and likable. I know you think Stephen DeMarco's hot. I don't. So I'm not as hot as this guy. And he also has that Heath Ledger flair to him. Like he's.
B
The hair.
A
Reminds me of Heath Ledger too. Yeah. With the hair and everything. But I screenshotted a couple things that Liz Moody, who we've had on the show, and she just is brilliant and always has the best takes of. She started watching it and a few things that she wrote that I wanted to run by you and see what you thought of, like why we love this show, so why I love. I love this show so much. You don't, but she wrote, well, can
B
I before you tell me I'm Gonna tell you what I think about the show, and then you're gonna sell me on this show. Okay, okay, okay. I know you don't. Listen, Ashley and I try to align on most things. It's okay if we don't like the same stuff. You hate Euphoria, and honestly, now I hate Euphoria. So now we're on the same team. But the first three episodes. Actually, the first episode, I was like, this is the. I'm so sorry. Just the dumbest plot line I've ever seen. So this guy is drowning in pussy, right? This guy is an athlete. He's drowning in pussy, and he agrees. Fake boyfriend. So that she will tutor him in a class. A philosophy class. Is that what's happening here?
A
The dialogue euphoria is so much more realistic.
B
Yeah, it was.
A
Euphoria is a more realistic depiction of younger kids. Yeah, yeah, no, totally. I get it. It's just so this. Just. This would never happen.
B
I need more trauma, okay? Just let me have more trauma in my shows. I was like, this dialogue is not for me. And this acting and this fake college campus is not for me. I will say I like the female lead more and more every episode. Oh, you know what I really hated was when she was playing the piano and, like, dancing around and twirling with the little scarf. I was just. It's not realistic enough for me, but I am coming around to it. Episode four, I am coming back around.
A
It's just.
B
It's a little corny for me. It's a little corny. Am I right? That is the whole premise. He agrees to be her fake boyfriend so that he can pass his class. That's the whole thing.
A
Yeah. I mean, I see where you're coming from. I figured you would feel this way. I mean, you. You don't like these shows. You didn't like Summer I Turned Pretty. You didn't like sex lives of college girls or whatever. Nothing. You don't. You just didn't watch them. They're not your. Your style. Like, I thought this might transcend that for you, because it is just.
B
I want to ask you a question. Episode four, do you feel like the tone of the show changed? Do you feel like it became less corny and more believable? Because episode four, I was like, okay, we're. We're doing more sex. This seems. The dialogue seems a little more realistic. These seem like more realistic relationships. There was, like, a real turn for me after episode three. Yeah.
A
So I'm curious if you see it through, what you will think it Takes the turn for sure. And then it gets more serious and explores all those themes I mentioned. And there is probably a little less sex. Like, a little. There's still sex and then there's some other people having sex. But that specific scene, you're not going to get it. Again, like, I haven't really stopped thinking about it.
B
Okay, well, episode. Episode four starts with a montage of sex. And I was like, I think I'm into this now.
A
Just. I think you should see it through. I mean, again, they just. It kind of comes out of nowhere, this sexual assault storyline, the way that they. I mean, she has spoken on it, but the way they handle. And then the. There was the abuse parent thing that. I'm just like, man, I didn't. It kind of comes out of nowhere because, like you said, you have a little. That corny sheen on the first half of the season.
B
So, like the second episode, these two bros, like, hop up on this table with these megaphones and, like, everyone's on the campus, and they're like, we're having a party this weekend. I was like, this is so corny. And then they. I think they ends episode three or starts episode four with her saying, like, I have trouble orgasming because, you know, I've had a past assault situation. And I was like, where did this come from? Okay, we have, like, a more serious plot line here I can take seriously.
A
Yeah. So Shashank started watching with me the second half, and I'm like, you really missed all this horny stuff that I'd love to recreate, but I just. I think it's really great. I think the cast is smoking hot. Jesus Christ. I think the acting is really superb. So ella Bright is 19. She was cast when she was just newly 18, and the rest of the cast is mid to late 20s. So a lot of people are discussing this age gap. I read an article about from the director, and she was, like, talking about the sex scenes and how they really made sure everyone was comfortable. They had an intimacy coordinator at every turn and just really discussed, like, her comfort level, being, like the youngest person. But I wanted to read these quotes from Liz Moody because they really spoke to me. So she wrote, off campus is so effing refreshing because it's all about good people communicating well and behaving in rational ways. The drama doesn't come from people being needlessly mean or stupid or not having simple conversations. It comes from truly difficult life situations. I don't think it's a coincidence that the credits from director to writer all the way down for each episode feature almost all women. And then she writes, I kindly request that every male podcasting bro and manosphere lover watch the show to see what modern masculinity can and should look like. Vulnerable, emotive, real, honest, with deep relationships with their friends and partner. And they can still be strong and do sports if they want. And crying and feeling only makes them hotter. And this really spoke to me because, again, it's fictional, but it's like, we are over that whole guys acting like shit. And I think this has made people even look at Summer. I turn pretty in a different way. I saw a tweet last night that was like, after off campus, I am no longer Team Conrad or Team Jeremiah.
B
I've seen a lot of times these
A
guys are behaving well, they're dealing with their shit, but they're communicating and being kind of. And it's refreshing.
B
I mean, I've said this for so many years. I'm so sick of books and movies and television shows glorifying this trope of this, like, emotionally avoidant guy. And this girl just, like, tries and tries and tries, and he, like, wakes up one day and decides to be with her. I hate it.
A
Yes. Yes.
B
And so you see all these athletes that actually just seem like nice guys that are in touch with their feelings. And, like, you're right. It's a nice representation of this. It's probably not gonna be my favorite show, but it's, like, harmless and cute and, yes, the whole cast is so hot. Let me ask you a question. So our past assistants, Bella and Tessa, I don't think that they look alike, but the lead reminds me so much of both of them. I think she's just, like, the coolest, prettiest, like, college girl. And she reminds me of both of them a little bit.
A
Do you see it? I do see it. A lot of these actors remind, especially us millennials of other people. So I think actually the lead actor, Ella Bright, looks like Brooke Shields. I think that Ally, her friend is Linda Cardellini. I couldn't believe it. I was like, she has to be Linda Cardellini's daughter. Like, they look so much alike to me. I think that Garrett Graham has that Heath Ledger vibe to him. And there's a lot of 80s 90s, early 2000s nostalgia. So Lex Nico, who we love, who's a great friend of ours and a great follow, she does conversation starters. That's her brand. She posted a reel. We'll post it. About all of the nods to the 80s 90s 90s, 2000s Rom coms. I don't know if you've gotten to this part yet, but there's this part where she sings over the PA system when he's in the arena. I was like, that's 10 things I hate about you. That's when Heath Ledger put it on and sang at the soccer field. Like, there's these little 10 things I hate about you moments. This one moment, I clocked it immediately. Also, it's like she comes out and Garrett is standing against the car. It was just out of Sixteen Candles. Jake Ryan leaning up against the car. There was a couple there. Sixteen Candles moments.
B
The eighties references are really interesting. The sister says, what's your damage, Heather? It's from the movie Heathers, which was the original Mean Girls. And I was like, oh my. The movie's from like 1985.
A
And then when she comes down at the Halloween party in the costume, it's this. She's all that energy, like a reveal. Obviously she's wearing an outfit that's like Mean Girls esque. And there's this one scene where they're in the back. I'm not gonna tell you the characters. Two characters are in the bathtub. You aren't there yet. And she goes underneath the water when someone walks in and he's holding a vibrator. It's straight out of Friends when Joey like busts into the bathroom with Monica and Chandler. I mean, there's all these references. And if you guys go look, Lexnico did a great reel. And then all the comments are people noticing other things. And so it really feels like that's one of the reasons why especially Millennials, obviously with Gen Z2 are loving this show so much. There's just some of that nostalgia. So I couldn't love it anymore. I started again and a lot of people. I never do that. I typically don't. And I started again and now I'm noticing stuff. I've only watched the first episode again of stuff that like is callbacks to stuff I've seen. Like I just obsessed with the show and maybe rain will come around, but
B
maybe listen, I can still appreciate why other people appreciate something if it's not
A
gonna be for me.
B
Did you rewatch he to ravelry?
A
No, I.
B
No. Okay.
A
I know a lot of people the same enter same type of obsession that I'm seeing with as same as heated rivalry where people like just finished it and started it right over. And a lot of the same people are saying that they did. I. I may rewatch Heated Rivalry at some point. I loved it. But this is. This is like more. More my style.
B
All right, well, there's a ton of stuff to watch this week. We maybe will unpack it another time. But obviously the city came out. The crash on Netflix is fantastic euphoria. Who cares? Whatever. Fuck that show.
A
And I wanted to add one in pop culture Jeopardy. On Netflix, hosted by Colin Jost. I'm obsessed with this show and my husband's cousins, Anita and Erica, they were at our wedding and I spent time with them. They are on episode seven and eight and they might be on future episodes, too. I'm unclear. But the show is amazing, right? You got to get into it. It's all set for. We would crush this show. It's on Netflix. So it's like Jeopardy. But for pop culture. I mean, I like, know all these answers. Like, I. I know. I know so many things. I mean, it could be.
B
It's.
A
There's Bravo categories, there's Sex in the City stuff. I mean, you would crush all the Bravo stuff. But anyway, if you guys are watching this, my cousins in law are Anita and Erica. Their team name is Snake Juice no Pulp. And they are on episode 7 and 8. And Shashank went to the taping and we teased this months ago because he was cooking for us all during an Eagles game. And he came in so late to make those be tacos. And I was like, he was doing something that I can't talk about. And this is what it was. So he wasn't able to talk about it, but he went to this taping and he said it was just so much fun to watch them crush it. And this show, I mean, it's just fun to play. It's fun to have on, especially if you're a millennial and just seeing all the random stuff these teams know, you're like, blown away. And then there's some stuff that there's a couple things that no one got the answer. And I'm like screaming at the tv. One of them, Cynthia Nixon comes up on the screen and she's like, in whatever episode of Sex and the City, these six words change Miranda's outlook on dating forever.
B
And I'm like, why does anyone know
A
that that no one got it?
B
That's crazy.
A
I was screaming, right? I was like, I couldn't believe it. No one got it. So there's like, moments like that, and then there's other obscure stuff I don't know at all, but I think you and I would crush this show. And, like, there's A lot of Bravo stuff. And they have Andy Cohen come in and read some of the questions and it's just such a fun watch. So anyway, and you know, we got. We got family on it. So check it out.
B
Us in next season, Coach. And then tonight, actually, and I, Ashley and I are going to take a break. We're going to watch the Summer House reunion, AKA the Bravo Super Bowl. I mean, I have not been this excited since the vanderpump reunion in 2022 in May. I have not been this excited in four years. This. This morning, west and Amanda were paparazzi in Rome, so they left the country for the occasion. And I would too, honestly, I would be like, I cannot be a part of the American news cycle at this time. This is gonna go bad cycle.
A
Yeah.
B
I do feel like. And I wonder how I'll feel after I watch this. But, like, I feel like we. We've seen it. I feel like we've seen quotes from so many people. We've seen spoilers. Like, I think you get a vibe for like, what is gonna happen tonight. But I am excited to see if
A
we were right and three parts right. Yes. So three weeks. I don't know that we're going to do this every week because we. Again, we're going to come back in tonight after we watch it and recap it. But we want to do this at least for the first one. So here is our recap. What advice would Rihanna give you today? You're about to.
B
That.
A
That's what's up.
B
Okay.
A
Okay. We are back.
B
So 11, 11 o' clock at night.
A
The dedication for you for. I'm glad I was able to watch it earlier than YouTube TV wanted me to, but it's still. I had to watch it like 6:15 my time. So I'm here at 7:30. We're cooking dinner.
B
I would have been. It would have been midnight and I would have been lit up from this reunion. So I just want.
A
Okay, well, take it away, sis.
B
I just want to say to you, like, I think this is my favorite reunion I've ever watched for a number of reasons at all. The Bravo sphere. Yeah, I really felt like going into it, I said to you, I was like, we've seen all this. We've seen the leaks and we've seen the previews and like, west is going to sit there and not talk and Amanda is going to sit there and be defensive. And I thought like, we've seen it. But like, I thought that, like, everybody individually had the floor to speak. It wasn't a bunch of people that were screaming over each other, like, chucking all these insults, yelling. Lindsay Hubbard I thought was gonna annihilate people. She really was, like, very measured, intentional. Kyle didn't talk that much also. Who's to say how much anybody talked? This was filmed over the course of 10 hours. Yeah.
A
But in general, this cast has more composure than Vanderpump. I mean, you know, I just couldn't get down with that. Like, you know, I got involved enough to watch the reunions for Vanderpump, and I was like, I can't handle this. By, like, my heart rate is spiked every time James Kennedy, like, lunges across the stage, you know, But I am with you. I mean, I had adrenaline the whole time, like, from the jump. I mean, the way that they came in and had them read the Instagram story in real time, like, and not adrenaline in, like, I'm excited way. Just, like, what's going to happen? It just felt like. I felt tense and. And it was crazy. Hearing the leaked audio, like, in the reunion, it was like seeing a band live after hearing their song on the radio. Like, we'd heard it, but to see it live, to see it in the context, like, what a rush. Like, to hear Mia drop that line about being the side piece. Like, I was like, oh, shit, that's my jam. That's how I felt. And I'm gonna give you. I wanna give you the four completely. But I just had a couple notes. Like, it was just crazy, the text. Like, seeing these lies unfold in real time. I really love Ciara and Mia's friendship and, like, them being neighbors and it just, like, it makes me want to cry. I feel like, you know, I feel like Jesse was crying at some point over. Over them. Maybe I could have been wrong, but I love them. And Mia, I feel for her. I think she's gonna be a star. And I just love her and their friendship. And I had trouble focusing on any of the other storylines. I really don't care. But the seating was, like, with the exception of Ben, Amanda seated with the guys and Kyle with the girls. That was crazy work. Like, more so Amanda being with all these dudes, not that all of them are dogs, but, like, the way that they did that was so intentional. I mean, with the exception of Ben being hanging off the end. But I was like, oh, my goodness.
B
I just thought, like, looking at the seating chart, I thought it was going to be a firing squad at Amanda and, like, no one deserves that, no matter what. It wasn't. I thought that, like, Mia used her time well. Lindsay used her time well. Like, Sierra is welcome to pop off as much as she wants. This is, like, a horrible thing. I was watching the last few minutes of the season finale before I started the reunion, and I wrote down this line because, like, Amanda and Sierra are crying before they leave the house, and Sierra's, like, hugging her, and she says, I love you. I'm proud of you. You're special and beautiful. You're important, and your voice matters. Like, it broke my heart to watch her speak like that to her friend. And her friend turns around and does that to her.
A
I know. I mean, while we're here, the finale, I mean, what the fuck? And of course, you know, they went back in and edited that to be a certain type of way. I mean, they edited it with the goodbyes that they typically don't like. I was thinking. Cause a lot of people were like, this felt like a series finale. And I'm like, you know what? I think that they always have those types of goodbyes, but they just kicked it up a notch and made it feel much more emotional and showed much more. That probably always happens. Not Sierra and Amanda's moment, but, like, in general. They made this, like, farewell, emotional ending. But Sierra and Amanda, that hug in the doorway. And then people clocked, she's wearing pages pajamas. Like, Paige is always gonna have her back. I was like, stop. I will cry right now.
B
Raina.
A
People were setting that to music. Like, people were saying it to that. Whatcha saying? Like, that song. And then Taylor Swift songs. Like, the music. People were setting that hug too. But anyway, we're here to talk about the reunion.
B
I did I Got Cloudy. I was writing down the quote for you, and, like, I was listening to the music over and over, and I was like, damn, that is, like, a real friendship. And most of these are reality TV casted friendships. But, like, these girls really were friends for a long time.
A
Sierra and Mia, like, all on the same lounge chair consoling Amanda, and she's like, I know I'm on. I'm a broken record, you guys, And I'm just so annoying. And they're like, no, you're our friend. Like, it's crazy. It was crazy to watch this season, knowing how it played out. But I want to. I want to hear Raina's takes on the reunion.
B
You keep saying that, and I'm enjoying the conversation with you. Okay.
A
I know.
B
I just want to, like, Randy, you take over.
A
I'm hungry.
B
I mean, I just. I was really impressed by Kyle And Lindsay, I mean, I thought that a man and Wes basically did what you thought they were gonna do. I don't know. It's hard to say. Did Amanda get a bad edit on this? Was she apologetic and soft and warm and kind and, like, open to having, like, empathy? I mean, she just out of the gate, just defensive deflect. Like, I didn't mean to do this. People. This just happens. People fall for other people. Like, it was so aggressive, and there was just. No, there wasn't an ounce of remorse or sadness. And. And she doesn't look visibly upset until Ciara starts talking about how West, 1, had a girlfriend up until literally, like, a couple days before they released this joint statement. And two, that Sierra was sleeping at his house throughout the fall. That's when Amanda looks upset, right?
A
I mean, let us not forget, they were at the Super Bowl. Sierra and west, remember? And, like, Fibula and like, a bunch of people in. In this year, in February. Like, I'm not saying they were hooking up, but, I mean, it's like I keep having to remember, like, this was a year ago, but then, like, what transpired after, even up until the beginning of this year? I. I just. West is. I have, like, a visceral reaction to him, and he just is not doing himself any favors. The way he looks. He just looks so raggedy and like, he doesn't care, and he just looks so dazed and out of it. And, like, are him and Amanda both on beta blockers? That's what everybody's saying. Like, they're not really present. Like, the vibes are so off. They should have handled this so much differently than. They don't even seem like they're there, which maybe they're, like, disassociating because of the circumstances, but it's like, you guys are just not doing yourself any favors.
B
I mean, I think people. What they wanted from them was like, you know, Tom Sandoval at the Vanderpumper Unit sat there hysterically crying on stage, which was too much also. But, like, at least he said with this whole chest, I'm in love with this girl. I'm in love with Raquel. Like, that's why I did this. Amanda and Wes aren't saying that. They're. They're alleging that they didn't even sleep together until after the statement came out. Get the out of here. You put out a whole ass statement on Instagram. We're together and you guys haven't. You haven't fucked.
A
But they had to sit there, right? Of course. But they also had to sit there and be like, I lied. I lied. That's the one credit I will give them is owning up to being liars repeatedly to people that they care about, to their literal best friends and husbands. I lied. That's crazy.
B
Sure, I get it. You're like, I'm developing feelings. I have to lie about this now. I don't even know how to address this right now. But, man, watching this was so crazy. I just thought, even. I will say even when they took a break to talk about the other cast members and, you know, there was a collective, no, please don't go to those people. I do think they used the time. I thought what KJ said was beautiful about his mental health and so sweet.
A
Oh, for sure.
B
I'm not laughing at that.
A
But I was looking at beach houses for the summer. Of course.
B
Of course.
A
Everybody said, you're like, hey, do these different. Speaking of their houses, how do you feel about July 19th?
B
I like that they used it to talk about Katie's mental health and his relationship to Sierra Mia, which is so beautiful.
A
And.
B
And I have been thinking to myself, the way Ben speaks to women is cuckoo bananas crazy. And Bailey was like, I'm gonna burn this room to the ground.
A
Wow. Yeah, she went off. I looked up from Airbnb and she was going off.
B
But they close it down with this, like, unbelievable, like, mic drop from Sierra. I wrote it down, and she's talking about, like, how, like, it probably wasn't gonna work out with her and Wes, but she said, you know, he needs someone who isn't gonna out check her, and that's Amanda. She's totally mute and weak, and he can always be the star in that relationship. And the whole stage was cry. She insulted Amanda. She insulted Wes. She insulted Kyle. She complimented herself. I have never seen somebody wrap up, like, just an entire feeling in, like, one sentiment. And just like. I mean, she just, like, lit the whole stage on fire.
A
Yeah. You know, it's interesting because it's like, that is what Amanda thinks about herself, and we all know that. But Ciara has been the one to try to get her to think otherwise. Like, this whole series. I mean, the Old Navy moment. Let's not forget Old Navy, you know, and, like, her telling her, like, you're stronger than this. You're better than this. It's like Amanda saying, like, I am weak. I am nobody without Kyle. I let him walk over me. And Sierra being like, no, you don't have to be this way. Like, trying to push her and motivate her and you know, get her to level up her life. And this happened. And Ciara, it's like she's reinforcing. Like you are that person. And so I think it like, I hate to say a full circle moment cause it was pretty bleak. But you watch Amanda be like I am. That's who I am. And that's who I've always thought I am.
B
I felt sad for Amanda in that moment because I thought about this like 22 year old girl that got cast on reality television that has only ever known reality tv. And there's this, I've always said, like this reward system for bad behavior and Kyle yelling at her, the way that they act together. They just get contracts and contracts every year to be on tv. And how could you ever be like a fully formed person? Like, it's sad. I just, I, I have empathy for her. I understand how we get here with somebody like that.
A
Yeah. And you stabbed your best friend in the back. Sure.
B
Like knowingly. I like that. You know, what happened to you is not your fault, but it is your responsibility. And you know, what she has gone through does not explain excuse that type of behavior, especially towards somebody that seems to your point to have always built her up and tried to negate those thoughts and feelings she has about herself,
A
which is probably also Sierra being like, I've tried to fix you. I've tried to, you know, help you and look where that got me.
B
It's insane. So I don't know, I enjoyed watching it. Cause I don't want to watch people yell and scream and rip each other to shreds. And I thought everybody just like kept it in the box and that was nice. Amanda and west were very married to this like timeline. Gotta clear up the timeline. No one cares about this. You guys could have fucked last week or six months ago. You still did what you did to the people that you did it to. And you lied to everybody. And the timeline is sort of irrelevant to me at this point. Like you guys cleared it up. You weren't having an affair when she was with Kyle. It's fine. You guys did something really shitty. The timeline is sort of irrelevant at this point.
A
I'm with you. But the TikTok Sleuths are, they are obsessed with the timeline. Like the timeline as people is probably their whole personality at this point.
B
Yeah, I mean, we have two more parts. I don't really know what else we're gonna get. I mean, I feel like we wrapped it up pretty good. But I look forward to the next two.
A
Right. I know, it didn't feel like we have more like it wasn't. They didn't really end us on a cliffhanger.
B
I mean, I could have just ended it right here. I don't know what else we need, but, I mean, maybe they'll announce, like, the summer house cast for the summer. Who's to say? All right, well, if anything crazy happens, we'll. We'll talk to you guys about it next week. We're going to move on to headlines. Okay, so Jesse Draper was on the red carpet of the AMA as she reveals her relationship status during, I guess, her date night with Marciano Brunetti. Who cares what his last name was? Brunette.
A
Is this, like, a hard launch?
B
Like, I can't believe that she made it known that this is not a hard launch. And so did he. She's like, we're not together. I'm single. I'm dating. He was like, I'm just here as a friend. And, you know, when she gets through her divorce, maybe he's touching her butt. They're all over each other. They insist that they are not together, but they are dates on the red carpet at the. I mean, I just. I love to see it. I love to see a woman openly treating a man like men quietly treat
A
women all the time. So true. This is such a great role reversal. Good for her.
B
Okay, next up. This really took me by surprise. Shein did it.
A
No.
B
The face of fast fashion bought Everlane. So here's why this is really crazy. Everlane is really like a sustainability first, like the opposite of what Shein is, which is the most fast fashion that exists. Everland really succeeded, staked their claim in, like, sustainability.
A
Yeah, it's just like, you can't trust anybody. And you can't believe these brands. And, you know, they really have to be investigated and held accountable when they make these claims. And it's all about money, and that's late stage capitalism, baby.
B
I mean, it's crazy. Like, when you read, like, their mission statement, Everlanes just about, like, we're committed to, like, not overproduction, and we're committed to, you know, these limited edition drops and sustainability. And you're like, oh, this was just word salad and not nonsense to sell shit.
A
Well, or it was at first. Again, I didn't dive too, too deep into this. But you never know where things took a turn. I don't know if there was new management. And that's how it started, with all the best intentions, and then it wasn't doing well, and they got to sell the company. I mean, there's that, too. It's like, this is what it used to be, and now we're not doing well anymore and everybody wants this fast fashion, so fuck it, we're gonna sell. I don't know, maybe that's.
B
I mean, I'm with you. And I think that as a business owner, you wanna do whatever you can to help the lives of the people that work for you and make sure that they have jobs and an income. But like, this is the craziest sale to sell to the number one fast fashion company.
A
But it's like, okay, well, then we're not shopping them anymore. I mean, I never really. I think I wore Everlane. Like, how many?
B
They have some cutie stuff.
A
Yeah, like a couple. You said something about them recently when you were talking about Carolyn Bassett, Kennedy, and people didn't know if you meant it as an insult or not. We got a few comments that were like, wait, I love Everlane. And we were like. We weren't saying any. It's nice Basics and classics.
B
Oh, it's like J. Crew. I mean, it's. Yes, it's great basics. I just mean, like, people acted like Carolyn Bessette was this fashion icon. She just looks like she went to Everlane.
A
Yeah. So sorry if I don't have all the ins and outs of this. I'm just kind of like, scanning. But, yeah, I think people were shocked by this, and it was like a fuck you for people who were shopping that brand for the so called ethics of it. And lastly, the LA mayor race heads to primary day. So we have not really discussed this. I mean, we've mentioned Spencer Pratt and passing, but. So here's the moment. The primary is going to be June 2, and the candidates that get the two highest votes will go to the general election in November. If one candidate receives more than 50% of the vote, they will be the mayor, which probably doesn't happen. If it could happen, it would be an incumbent mayor. I mean, there's a world in which Karen Bass or Spencer Pratt gets 51% of the vote, but probably not. So chances are it will probably be those two, and they will head to the election in November. I mean, I don't think there were great options here. I watched the whole debate. I've done my research on these candidates. This is my city. I am invested in and involved. And I'm not a fan of Karen Bass for a lot of reasons. I mean, the fires, among other. Mismanagement on her track record. Nithya Rahman doesn't Really seem like she's up to the task. I think she contradicted herself a bit in the debate. I just don't think she's ready to be mayor. I agree with her on a lot of her policies, but not all these are really the top three contenders. And then there's Spencer Pratt and he's Spencer Pratt. I mean, he's abrasive, he's a bully, he's hot headed, he's giving Grifter, he's totally inexperienced. He makes some good points in wanting to like clean up the streets and do some things and clean up the corruption and the waste in the government. But you know who else said that is Elon Musk. And look what happened there. He ripped apart the government on behalf of the President, who's actively stealing people's tax dollars for his own gain. So, like, I don't disagree with all of Spencer Pratt says. I just don't believe he would know how to execute on his plans as mayor. I mean, we can't hand people jobs
B
that they're not qualified to do. You're talking about the, one of the most important. Listen, every city is very important, blah, blah, blah. LA is, I would say, the second most important city in this country. The second largest. Is that bad to say it's one
A
of the largest cities in the country? Yeah.
B
No job in any field. I'm not getting surgery from a surgeon that hasn't gone to medical school. I'm not why you can't hand jobs to people. You're going to run the city.
A
Listen, but I mean, there's. You could say the same for lifelong politicians. You can't trust them either. I mean, who can you trust? It's just like he is a showboater. He reminds me of Trump in a lot of ways. And Spencer Pratt wasn't like, I want to make a difference in my city. I'm running for city council. He was like, I'm going to be mayor and if I don't win, I'm moving. You really love the city that much? I mean, you can interpret that how you want, but he's like, if I don't win mayor for the first time, I'm going out into politics. I'm moving. Oh yeah. You really care about making a difference or you would have run for sending city council. I saw a tweet that said white privilege is believing the mayor of LA is an entry level position.
B
But that's what I'm saying. It's not even being a trustworthy person. I don't think politicians are trustworthy. He has never had held an office. He wasn't. He was even like the parent teacher president at his son's school. Like, what, Qualified on the school board?
A
Yeah, exactly. He's not qualified at all. It's like, that goes without saying. And like, you know, as far as his character, I mean, I've watched him in multiple interviews now because. Because I think him being on a reality show 20 years ago is not an argument against him. I think we need better arguments against him. I've seen a lot of people out there that. That's not a really solid argument, really. Let's actually talk about his character or his policies or his lack of experience. And he reminds me of Trump. We've seen this play out before, but he's gained a lot of popularity. People need to take him seriously. This isn't a joke. He may be going. Going into the November election. He has so many backers. This is not a joke. So it's just like, you gotta realize what he's playing into and why people are gravitating towards him. I mean, a multitude of reasons and follow whatever these Hollywood elites or whatever, they think it's gonna benefit them in some way, but it's just like, he's in the running, so he needs to be spoken about.
B
I could not care less. He was on a reality TV show, but also the President was on a reality TV show. So it clearly does not disqualify you from running for office.
A
Similarity.
B
He's just not qualified. That would just automatically disqualify him. For me, he has no idea what he's doing. And yes, the current sitting mayor, there's probably a lot of problems with her and people disagree with her policies and things that she's done, but she's been the mayor.
A
Yeah, I mean, listen, I watched the debate and this might sound crazy to say I wouldn't mind Mayor Bass with Spencer Pratt mixed in there somewhere to hold her accountable. He is digging into a lot of the corruption and a lot of where the money's going. He's not fit to be mayor, and I really wouldn't want him in a place of power because of his character. But I'd like him holding her accountable. He held her accountable in the debate, you know, so to me, like, I love la. I love California. It is a dream to live here, truly. Like. Like, we have our issues, but I choose our issues over the issues in a red state any day. That's my personal opinion. You're welcome to disagree. I love it here. I'm Invested in it. It's a dream to live here and people who hate on it, a lot of them have never been here. They're hating from outside the club or they've been here and they went to Hollywood. So it's just like, I feel so passionate. I get territorial and defensive about LA and I want the best for it. And I'm not saying that he doesn't. I think he ran because his house burned down and he saw a lot of the cracks and he wants to fix those things. His intentions weren't wrong. But to me, this is like a devil you don't know versus devil you do, or whatever the saying. And at this point, knowing what I know and the research I've done and watching the debate, it's like, I probably will vote for Karen Bass. Unfortunately, I wish the options were better. And if Spencer Pratt is serious, then he should stick around and run again or run for city council if he really wants to make a difference in LA politics.
B
I totally agree.
A
All right, guys, well, that is your snack. So if you live in la, go out and vote. I think you can probably vote now, early June 2, and we'll see what happens. And thanks for being along on the ride. Girls gotta eat.com, girls gotta eat podcast, Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina is raina.greenberg. raina greenberg.com for her. Her tour tickets in the fall. Also. Congrats, Raina. Your tour is over tonight or it's last night.
B
I'm in Pittsburgh tonight and that night you're shutting it down. Oh, my God.
A
We didn't mention that. Up top. But, I mean, you know, I'm sure you're. You're sold out, but congrats on ending your tour and I hope you guys all have fun tonight. If you're at Raina's Pittsburgh show and raina greenberg.com again for those tour tickets in the fall. And you can watch full video on Spotify and YouTube and we will see you Monday.
B
Have a great weekend, guys.
A
Bye.
Episode: The Snack: Off Campus, Summer House Reunion, and the LA Mayor Race
Date: May 28, 2026
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine, Rayna Greenberg
Producer: Dear Media
In this lively “Snack” episode, Ashley and Rayna offer a hilarious and unfiltered pop culture catch-up. The conversation ranges from trending hair styles and marketing absurdities, to a deep-dive on the viral Prime Video show “Off Campus,” the explosive “Summer House” reunion, and the surprisingly competitive LA mayoral race (with Spencer Pratt in the headlines). Sprinkled throughout: sharp hot takes on celebrity culture, politics, and the ethics of chain restaurants trying to reposition themselves.
(00:13 – 03:20)
(03:33 – 15:05)
(15:10 – 24:43)
Knicks make the NBA finals: local New York excitement, sports bars come alive, and a lesson on the “Knickerbockers” name origin.
Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift attend Cavs game; Taylor referred to only as Kelce's “girlfriend” or “fiance” by announcers, despite her own massive fame.
Travis's “Beer Chug” Moment:
Analysis of his on-camera beer chug and media headlines about Taylor’s supposed embarrassment.
Ashley: “If he’s a Kelsey brother, they’re going to chug some beer and pound their chest and…respect women. Let him cook.” (20:23–21:56)
Reflection: why the couple works, the joy of letting people be exactly who they are.
Rayna: “This just looks like a college couple courtside having fun…If my man was Travis Kelce, I’d be like, whatever he wants to do, it’s fine.” (21:56–23:00)
The hosts share personal beer chugging stories and college nostalgia. (23:00–24:26)
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(43:06 – 56:19)
Memorable Quote:
Rayna (on Sierra's closing burn):
Both hosts dissect Amanda/West's defensive, detached tone and the impact on friendships, particularly with Ciara:
Timeline drama: TikTok sleuths focus intensely on relationship dates, but the hosts find it a diversion from the core issue: lying to friends. (55:58)
(58:13 – 65:14)
Ashley and Rayna seamlessly blend biting pop culture commentary, earnest reflections, and signature humor, covering the bizarre, the emotional, and the infuriating of the week. Whether you’re up to date on Bravo, obsessed with college romances, or just want to laugh at the absurdities of modern marketing and politics, this Snack delivers something satisfying and relatable—spiced with blunt honesty and plenty of memorable one-liners.
(For a deeper experience, check out referenced segments using the provided timestamps.)