The Snack: Rapture Report, Jimmy Kimmel, and Summer I Turned Pretty

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat – The Snack: Rapture Report, Jimmy Kimmel, and Summer I Turned Pretty

Podcast: Girls Gotta Eat (Dear Media)
Episode Date: September 25, 2025
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine (A), Rayna Greenberg (B)

Episode Theme Overview

This “Snack” episode of Girls Gotta Eat is a spirited, wide-ranging pop culture catch-up with Ashley and Rayna. With their signature irreverent humor and candid banter, the duo unpacks everything from the recent “Rapture” TikTok phenomenon, prom dress debates, and a fashion influencer wedding controversy, to weightier topics like the “Jimmy Kimmel freedom of speech crisis” and a breakdown of The Summer I Turned Pretty. They round it all out with quick-hit headlines in Bravo TV, fashion, and viral news.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal & Tour Catch-Up

Timestamps: 00:13–02:29

• Both co-hosts are in a rush pre-flight, briefly riff on their travel and show schedules.
• Hint at ongoing drama involving someone Rayna dated (“someone Raina dated has taken a turn for the worst… he’s locked up.” [01:00])
• Debunk and poke fun at rumors about moving to NY or dating someone, sharing they'll keep listeners updated as “a bonded pair.”
  • “The bonded pair is rescued dogs and cats. That’s it. That’s so, so, so funny.” - Ashley [02:20]

2. Rapture Report – TikTok Apocalypse

Timestamps: 03:07–11:50

• Rapture TikTok Madness: Recap a recent evangelical prophecy about the “Rapture” supposedly happening on the 23rd of the month, and the way TikTok delivered genuinely bizarre, deadpan advice for what to do in case of sudden ascension.
  • “If you’re hearing this [podcast], it didn’t happen. Or maybe it did.” – Ashley [03:34]
  • Rayna details the TikTok advice: “You’re supposed to be in your ‘rapture pod’… don’t lock your knees… stand all day, no shoes… keep your arms and legs inside your pod like a rollercoaster.” [05:14–07:19]
• The humor pivots to “boarding zones” for Christians: “If you served in the military, you get to go first.” – Rayna [06:42], “Like Diamond Elite!” – Ashley [06:36]
• They reflect on patterns of extreme beliefs: people selling their possessions, not going to work, the cyclical panic, and the sad psychology behind it.
  • “Sometimes you want to believe [something] so badly that you could cause harm to yourself and others.” – Ashley [11:22]
• Emphasis that their jokes are about the extremism, not Christianity as a whole. Ashley: “If you are somebody who is a Christian and you’re sick at seeing all the harm that’s happening at the hands of other people who call themselves Christians – we’re not talking about you…” [07:37]

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3. Prom/Homecoming Fashion Controversy

Timestamps: 11:52–19:01

• Viral Homecoming Dress Debate: The hosts dissect blowback over teens wearing very short, sequined, Vegas-style dresses to high school dances.
• Both hosts don’t have kids; Ashley and Rayna struggle to find where they stand on teens' autonomy vs parental boundaries, and debate double standards regarding sexuality and policing girls’ clothing.
  • “You don’t want to see a 10-year-old in a bra top…but why not at 16?” – Ashley [14:03]
• Rayna points out the futility of “protection” via clothing: “As a 16-year-old, a short vs long dress wouldn’t stop me from making all the decisions I made in high school.” [15:27]
• Both recognize the difficulty in policing the line between appropriate and inappropriate, the risk and reality of unwanted attention, and emphasize the importance of letting teens express themselves while trying to keep them safe.
• Memorable moment: Rayna: “Your job as a parent is to keep your kids safe. Your job as a teenager is to push boundaries…you have to find a balance.” [16:47]

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4. Danielle Bernstein's Controversial Wedding Affiliate Links

Timestamps: 19:01–29:28

• Influencer Danielle Bernstein (WeWoreWhat) made headlines for suggesting guests at her engagement party shop from a curated (affiliate link) page she sent out—removing items from the “registry” as they sold to avoid duplicate dresses.
  • Initial reaction: “That’s a little cringe.” – Ashley [21:27]
  • But both ultimately defend the move—“Most guests want outfit guidance, especially for a high-profile, super-themed fashion wedding.”
  • Rayna: “People want to know what to wear. If they’re going to buy anyways, why not give the person a kickback? She’s paying for the event!” [24:08]
• They clarify it’s 100% optional—no compulsion, and relatable for anyone planning themed events: “I can build a landing page in two seconds and people want that.” – Rayna [22:09]
• Criticism aimed more at the tone of Danielle’s delivery than the idea itself: “She delivered it as if she was a genius, not like ‘some of y’all may hate this.’” – Ashley [20:56]

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5. The Jimmy Kimmel 'Freedom of Speech' Scandal

Timestamps: 34:54–52:20

• Background: ABC suddenly removed Kimmel after government (Trump administration) pressure in relation to “insensitive remarks,” only to reinstate him after widespread backlash and massive financial losses for their parent company.
• Ashley and Rayna dissect why this was a “real threat to freedom of speech”—not cancel culture, but government overreach.
  • “This wasn’t just someone getting fired… this was, clearly, interference from the government coming down from the President, who is going after his critics.” – Ashley [38:05]
• Both stress the importance of free expression for everyone, regardless of viewpoint.
  • “No one should want this… unless you’re saying, ‘I love Russia, China, North Korea…’ How can you not see the path we’re headed down?” – Ashley [44:25]
• Acknowledge despair and fatigue with relentless bad news but reaffirm the power of collective action—massive public and financial pressure reversed ABC’s decision: “The only shining beacon of hope… that money still moves the needle.” – Rayna [41:22]
• Notable quote: “We’ve never seen a president say stuff like this. This is who y’all are following.” – Ashley [46:44]
• Gallow remarks on the surreal nature of events: political rallies as funerals, “solving” autism, anti-science rhetoric, and viral speeches at the Charlie Kirk memorial.

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6. Trump’s “Autism Cure” & Anti-Science Rhetoric

Timestamps: 47:12–52:42

• Trump claims a “cure for autism” will be “dropped soon,” blaming acetaminophen (Tylenol). Both hosts scathingly mock his inability to pronounce ingredients (“aceta…what?”) and denounce the lack of science.
  • “There is no data that taking Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism… one of the worst things to happen since Trump took office is the anti-science movement.” – Ashley [48:55]
• Both highlight the cruelty of scapegoating mothers and the emotional toll on parents of autistic children.
  • “How dare you?…a fucking clown who can’t pronounce the research is blaming you for what you have supposedly done to your child.” – Rayna [52:19]
• Reiterate: This is more anti-woman, anti-science, and another front in the culture wars: “Abortion down, birth control next, now pain relief during pregnancy.” – Ashley [50:25]

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7. Pop Culture Recap: The Summer I Turned Pretty

Timestamps: 53:48–58:44

• Rayna admits to feeling left out of the hype and only watched the finale (after an Ashley-voiced synopsis video). Both agree the anticipation for the love triangle was real and discuss the finale, with Belly ending up with Conrad.
  • “I…did not want her to end up with Jeremiah.” – Ashley [56:14]
• Marvel at the usage of over 20 Taylor Swift songs (with full clearance) in the show: “It’s unprecedented… like, how much did that fucking cost?” – Ashley [57:38]
• Ashley raves about the new Cardi B album (“Am I the Drama?”), calling her a true rap icon, while Rayna notes Cardi B is also expecting another child.

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8. Quick Headlines: Bravo, Fashion & Viral News

Timestamps: 59:46–63:25

• Bravo TV: Summer House gets a New York City spinoff, focusing more on cast “real life” than partying. Both are excited to see this version.
• Trend Alert: “Horse Girl Fall” is here—riding boots, equestrian style, trending via Ralph Lauren and NY Fashion Week. Both hosts see it as classic, albeit with a funny new label.
• Art Prank: A mysterious statue of Trump and Jeffrey Epstein “frolicking” (not just shaking hands) appeared at a DC monument, attributed to anonymous artist group “The Secret Handshake.” Ashley reads out the artist’s cheeky statement about “Friendship Month,” and both marvel at the public stunt and art as activism, signaling not to forget the Epstein files.
  • “They have their legs up like they’re skipping through a field.” – Rayna [62:38]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You like someone who looks like a criminal, but you can’t be a criminal. That’s different.” – Rayna, [01:05]
• “Sometimes bridesmaids faint at the altar because they locked their knees.” – Ashley, [05:33]
• “People want to know what to wear. If they’re going to buy anyways, why not give the person a kickback? She’s paying for the event!” – Rayna, [24:08]
• “Freedom of speech isn’t that you can say anything, but…we’ve tolerated…even the KKK can have peaceful protests. We’ve lived in a country where we’ve tolerated that up till now.” – Rayna, [37:27]
• “If ABC would have just outright fired him, people would have been up in arms. But this was clearly interference from the government…” – Ashley, [38:05]
• “How dare you?…a fucking clown who can’t even be bothered to know the research is blaming you for what you have supposedly done to your child.” – Rayna, [52:19]
• “Sometimes I just have to laugh that this is who people voted for… all the terrible, horrible things happening… that’s the most ridiculous person on Earth.” – Ashley, [48:28]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:13 – Co-host travel and tour updates, personal drama hints
• 03:07 – Rapture Report: Christian TikTok End Times
• 11:52 – Homecoming/prom dress fashion controversy
• 19:01 – Danielle Bernstein wedding dress curation/affiliate controversy
• 34:54 – Jimmy Kimmel/ABC/Freedom of Speech crisis
• 47:12 – Trump’s “autism” claims & anti-science screed
• 53:48 – The Summer I Turned Pretty finale breakdown
• 59:46 – Quick pop culture/fashion/Bravo/viral news headlines

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Tone, Flow & Style

The episode weaves lighthearted pop culture riffs with biting social commentary and direct reader engagement. Ashley and Rayna’s fast-paced, conversational style includes healthy self-awareness: frequent caveats that they aren’t parents or experts, admissions of uncertainty, and the recurring joke that their opinions may change tomorrow. Humor is never far from even the darkest topics, often used to process the absurdity and frustration of current events.

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This summary captures the episode’s richness, memorable lines, and the natural back-and-forth that define Girls Gotta Eat’s take on pop culture, controversy, and community.

Transcript

[A]

This week on the Snack, we're discussing Jimmy Kimmel, the Summer I Turn Pretty and one Influencer's Wedding controversy.

[B]

This is Dear Media Production.

[A]

Enjoy.

[B]

Hi, guys. Hello.

[A]

Go Birds.

[B]

We're under a time crunch today. Is this the first time we've ever walked in this door and started recording 20 minutes later?

[A]

Probably. Yeah. We do be talking our shit. We have a lot to catch up on. I had to tell you a crazy thing this morning, like on voice note, because I was like, we're not going to have the time. Okay. Someone Raina dated has taken a turn for the worst.

[B]

Someone. Rain.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

I was like, rain. A dated? What does that mean?

[A]

Sorry, Rain effect. And there's been some tea and like, I'm getting constant updates around the clock. I just have to tell you about it. It's crazy.

[B]

Are you going to tell me on air?

[A]

No. Oh, wait. I already told you.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Okay. I'm just telling the audience what we've been talking.

[B]

We don't want to gatekeep to you guys. It is pretty crazy, though.

[A]

I don't want to say too much.

[B]

What have you let come after you?

[A]

No, he's locked up. Okay.

[B]

No, listen, I like somebody who looks like a criminal, but you can't be a criminal. Like, that's different.

[A]

Okay, person.

[B]

Ashley. Okay, one person. You can be a hitman. Oh, you kill bad guys.

[A]

You've only dated one hitman.

[B]

I thought to me he promised me he was only bad guys.

[A]

Anyway. Yeah. So literally after we record if we survive, which we'll get to it. But we are heading to the airport. So I'm in Philly this week. Go Birds. Jordan Davis coming off a hot win. And I have my shows and I would have had one last night and I had one tonight that sold out. So sorry if you didn't get tickets, but. And you are going to New York. Drumroll, please. So there's some rumors swirling that you're dating someone in New York or moving back.

[B]

One of those is definitely true.

[A]

So there's nothing planned.

[B]

I. I made a pact with myself to stop talking about moving to New York with everybody that listen, everybody that has ears. I. Last night I made a decision with myself to stop telling everybody continuously until I have, like, a real plan. But you and I are like a bonded pair. So, like, we will decide as a family. There's not. Like, I'm moving to New York and you're not coming with me.

[A]

The bonded pair is rescued dogs and cats. That's it. That's so, so, so funny.

[B]

We'll keep you guys abreast. When I'm ready to announce dating or moving, we'll let you guys know.

[A]

Oh, and then we will be at Lady World this weekend, which will be super fun if you guys are coming to see us in Florida for this little spring break in the fall fest with Lady Gang and all the other girlies we love. We'll see you there.

[B]

Yeah, I'm really excited.

[A]

It's gonna be great.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Every day we report today.

[A]

We have a report every week we.

[B]

Have, like, an anti. So it's the Rapture Report.

[A]

Rapture Report, you guys.

[B]

And is it happening? Well, today is the day that is going to happen. So as we record on the 23rd, today is the Rapture. And they gave them. I will explain to you what the Rapture is. And they gave, like, a little bit of, like, a buffer. So the Rapture could be on the 24th. But by the time this airs, we will know whether the Rapture happened or not.

[A]

So if you're hearing this, it didn't happen. Or maybe it did. Listen, I'm here for the Rapture. You explain what it is. Yeah.

[B]

So it's an end times event. So evangelical Christians believe in this. There was a South African pastor, he claimed that he had a vision that the Rapture, which again, end times. But it's not the end of the world, right? So, like, it can still be hell on earth, which it is essentially right now.

[A]

Are we in it?

[B]

Yeah, we're in it. And basically what will happen during the Rapture is all the true believers, the evangelical Christians, will be called up to heaven. And the rest of us, the rest of us are on Earth.

[A]

Can we get this going? I'm saying, like, can they can.

[B]

They're saying only good people get to go.

[A]

Well, you know what? I think a lot of them would be real surprised to find out what Jesus thinks of them. I certainly don't mean all Christians, but I think there's some that think they're going and they ain't going.

[B]

If you are still on earth on the 25th, you know that Jesus does.

[A]

Not think you're a Christian, but I'm saying, can someone. Jesus or God. Jesus, dad. Come down here and grab some of.

[B]

These people and just get them out.

[A]

Of here that are Christians, but also hold beliefs that are harmful and take them up and we stay here and restart everything.

[B]

He doesn't want them. They're. They have to stay on earth with us and Donald Trump.

[A]

No.

[B]

You think they're gonna, like, pick them up and just drop them from the sky? Or you just want to get him out of here?

[A]

Just get him out of here. Like they. And wherever they go, it's none of my business.

[B]

I don't wanna know. Bye. See you later.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, basically, there's all this advice about how to go through the rapture.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So you're supposed to be in your rapture pod with your family. And they give different advice on which positions to be in for the rapture. Cause physically, you are gonna be called up to heaven. So you wanna have your legs outstretched so you don't get a leg cramp.

[A]

Oh, you don't wanna lock your knees?

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

When sometimes bridesmaids faint at the altar. Cause they've locked their knees.

[B]

No, you're supposed to just dangle in the air so they don't want you to get a leg cramp.

[A]

You need to be standing.

[B]

You are supposed to be standing with no shoes all day.

[A]

They're standing all day.

[B]

They're just standing all day.

[A]

They can't sit on, like, a bar stool.

[B]

It is recommended that they sit in their living room.

[A]

So you can shut up.

[B]

I've been deep in TikTok about how to rapture the right way.

[A]

But if you have a studio, you.

[B]

Could be in your studio. Because technically your living room is in the middle of your bed in your bedroom. I had a studio. My couch was next to my bed.

[A]

That's fair. Okay.

[B]

Okay. So you have to get your rapture pod. So your whole family. You're not supposed to wear shoes. Because if as you're, like, floating up, one of your shoes can fall off and hit one of them. One of the people. Yes. You can wear other stuff. And you're supposed to keep your hands and feet inside your rapture unit.

[A]

It's like a roller coaster.

[B]

Yes. Because there's different categories of how Christian and good you are. So they're gonna call it up. Like boarding zones in an airline. There's category one.

[A]

No, no, no. Not like Diamond Elite. I get to board first. If you're a diamond.

[B]

If you served in the military, you get to go First.

[A]

If you have diamond status as a Christian, you get to board first.

[B]

If you need extra time boarding, you can go first.

[A]

Pre boarding.

[B]

They're gonna pre board the rack.

[A]

People are gonna sneak up. I need more time. Can I get on first?

[B]

So you could do. You could get into a pod if you needed like a little more time too, and like go up with those people if you wanna board first. But there's different zones, so there's categories of how like, good and Christian you are. So category one's gonna go up first. But in pod, as you go up, you're supposed to keep your arms and legs inside, inside your pod because there's. I, ideally, like a lot of people just floating in space and stuff. You don't want to hit that.

[A]

Totally, totally. Yes, exactly. I can. This is totally going to happen.

[B]

So if you are listening to this, all the good people are up in heaven and we are down here in hell to just fight it out.

[A]

Right? So to your point, it is already hell or. Then take them and we'll stay. We'll fix this.

[B]

Yeah, I'm here to fix tariffs.

[A]

And so this is like extremist Christianity, you know, because I just have been wanting to say, like, we talk about Christians and, you know, hypocritical Christians and versus real Christians. And I, I don't want to offend Christians who truly love their neighbor and treat people as they'd want to be treated and care for the poor and heal the sick like Jesus would have done. And you know, I, I think this always applies to anything we talk about. We talk about men. And it's just like if you are somebody who is a Christian and you're sick at seeing all the harm that's happening in this world at the hands of other people who call themselves Christians. I feel for you. We're not talking about you. So I just have to slip that in because I really, you know, I, I do get going on Christianity. And that being said, this is like an extreme view, like evangelical is even a different level of Christian. But I really find this level of delusion so fascinating and to really insist that this is happening. Like, not like, hey, so there's this theory maybe like, yeah, I got all.

[B]

This information, all the how to rapture in the zones and different from, from people on TikTok.

[A]

They're not embarrassed if it doesn't. They're like, well, they probably just pushed it back a little.

[B]

They're like, well, this guy predicted it. Not my fault. It's this guy's fault.

[A]

Like this has happened when Joe Biden was inaugurated on in 2021. And the whole QAnon theory was that I think Trump was going to come in and take. Take it back. And all these people were. So they insisted upon it. And even when they were being interviewed, it was like, well, what if it doesn't happen? And they still would be like, I still believe it's happening. You know, like, there is no reasoning with these people. Like, it's. It's just so crazy. Like, I was reading up on some of these theories that have happened before, and when people are so convinced that this is happening to the point where they're like 100% it's happening, they sell.

[B]

Off all their belongings. They do something to indicate that they are ready for this, right?

[A]

Like, I have no doubt in my mind. And then they're asked like, but what if it doesn't. They. They don't waver. They're like, like, they'll be like, well, I think they actually pushed it back a few years.

[B]

They.

[A]

It's still happening.

[B]

You know, I feel like they call for end of times quite frequently. I feel like once a year, I hear the world.

[A]

I was seeing that this happened, okay? It says, Church of God Pastor Ronald Wineland proclaimed that the end of the world would take place on June 9, 2019, causing panic in some evangelical circles. He later pushed back the date. So they'll just keep pushing it back and like, oh, something must have come up. But, like, the rapture is still going to Happen probably like 2027 now.

[B]

Like, how dare you insist cite this type of like, scared. I mean, people like, selling off their stuff, their homes, their belongings, and then you're just like, just kidding.

[A]

Also, some people use it as an excuse to, like, not go to work. This one woman, I guess she said she wasn't going to go to work and then she got fired. Did you see that? I think that's like the most popular outcome of someone that's like, using it as an excuse to not go to work. I respect that. I can't come in. It's the rapture.

[B]

I don't have blind belief in anything.

[A]

It reminds me of when people get catfished. And I mean, like the extreme cases where it's so obvious or someone thinks they're talking to Brad Pitt or whatever it is. Like that one woman, like, you know, being catfish. It happens to the best of us. It happened to Raina. But, you know, sometimes you'd be watching.

[B]

That show one time for one day.

[A]

But you'd hear, you'd Watch the show on mtv or you'd hear a story about someone being taken advantage of and you're like, how could this happen? All the signs were there. And it's just you wanna believe it so badly. It's like sad. You wanna believe something so badly that you could cause harm to yourself and others.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, what I believe, I mean, it might be the end of the world. I don't know. Look what's happening on earth right now, today. And so, I don't know, maybe we should explore that a little bit further instead of predicting that everybody's gonna be called up to heaven.

[A]

Well, if you're listening, then, you know.

[B]

Well, I'm glad that you all survived.

[A]

Okay, so that's the Rapture report. We're going to talk about some fashion controversy.

[B]

So you, you brought this to my attention.

[A]

So this came across my tick tock. And people have a lot of opinions on the way that girls are dressing for homecoming.

[B]

What?

[A]

Hold on, hold on.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I feel like I'm about to say something that's gonna piss people off. There's no way that that is what girls are wearing to homecoming.

[A]

Now, Hoko. I never heard hoko until recently, but it's delightful, isn't it? So you can look up Hoko on TikTok or wherever and basically not everybody, but a lot of teenage girls are wearing these really short, sequiny Vegas style party dresses. There's one, there's the handkerchief dress, which a lot of them are talking about. It's like barely there. You know, we've all worn dresses like this in our past and there's certainly one side of the coin that's like, let them live and girls want to dress like this. And then there's just like, these are teenagers and this is how like women in their 20s should dress.

[B]

I don't know, it's hard for me to give. I don't have children, so I don't know how I would feel if this was my teenage daughter. You know, I remember being in high school and feeling like I wanted to dress how I wanted to dress. I wanted to dress how my friends dressed. I wanted to do what was in style. And I had these like huge boobs. And my parents probably wanted me to be a little more conservative because they understood like the dangers of the world. And I wasn't hyper online the way the kids are today. And I am 40 years old. I could very easily have a 16 year old. You know, it wouldn't be that crazy for me. To have a child that age. And I look at these dresses and I think like, it's so inappropriate for somebody that age. However, if that's what everybody's doing, I don't know, I don't know about standing in the way of my child. Going to a, a high school dance. Yeah, it's hard for me to pass judgment. I don't know. Whatever you want to do with your own kid, I support.

[A]

Yeah, I go back and forth because there's this part of me that's like, you're a teenager and this is like really revealing and it's going to be unwanted attention. And this is the types of clothes adults should wear. But then I'm like, what's the implication? Because it'll tempt boys or it'll make people think you're a slut or other parents will judge you. Like, I don't subscribe to that like patriarchal bullshit, but like, where's the line? Because you don't want to see a 10 year old in a bra top, you know, like just like you don't want your 10 year old on Instagram or wearing lipstick or whatever the things are. And again, you're a parent, you make your own rules. But I really go back and forth and I can understand as a parent just being like, oh, you're just, that's not what teenagers are supposed to wear. But why not? You know, like, because that's the whole thing of like the double standards with like dress codes. In high school, it's like what, a girl can't wear like a tank top or a spaghetti strap top in class because what, the boys can't focus but they can wear whatever they want, you know, like, this is why men can show their nipples and we can't. I mean, there's so many different double standards. So I, I go back and forth and I don't really, I don't really know where I stand, but I'm with you. Like, I would never be that parent to hold my child back if that's what everybody else is doing. Just that's the style. Like let them cook.

[B]

And to your point, like, does it hyper sexualize kids because the dress is shorter than mine was? Mine was long in high school. I promise you, as a 16 year old, a short versus a long dress wouldn't stop me from making all the decisions I made in high school. I was exploring sex, exploring alcohol, exploring drugs. I did all those things and the length of my dress had nothing to do with me doing those things.

[A]

Yeah, I guess to your Point just the sexualizing is kind of what it's about. It's just like tits up, ass hanging out. Like you're. I don't know, like kids, they're having sex. Well, at least they weren't already. I think they're. They're waiting longer. But like 16 year olds were having sex. 15 year olds. I don't know. It's just like. I guess you have to think about what bothers you about it. And these are two generations below us. And we didn't dress like this. I mean, it was a different time. I mean ours.

[B]

I wasn't pretty, so nobody wanted to see me in those kind of outfits.

[A]

I mean, but I did wear slutty stuff out. But I guess just if you, if you guys really care. Like our homecoming and our school was taken very seriously. And so I knew what other schools did. Short dresses. And we usually did it like we. It was pretty much like on the level of prom, like a little less formal, but it certainly wasn't cocktail. So we would be in floor length. Jessica McClintock in the school cafeteria for homecoming. Yeah, like we took it really seriously. Updos. And I remember other scene. Other schools that were like more casual. Short dresses. Not the whole, like, not all the fanfare.

[B]

I thought most people do like prom dress style to the floor.

[A]

I think it's different. It's whatever. Our school just took homecoming really seriously.

[B]

But these look like ice Capades outfits.

[A]

They're looking like what you would wear to a live show.

[B]

Yeah, Me specifically. I guess. You know, your job as a parent is to keep your kids safe. And your job as a teenager is to push boundaries and explore. And I guess at some point you find a balance.

[A]

Yeah, like, I think that parents, you know, progressive parents aren't like boys in your grade. It's less about them. It's more about like the dangers of the world that you're out running around looking older than you are and maybe. And that's just. That's a shame that that's the world we live in because it shouldn't have to be like that. Women should be able to dress however they want, show as much as their body as they want, and they shouldn't be at risk.

[B]

I think homecoming is more of a controlled environment than most other stuff you send kids out to do. Like all the parents come together to take photos of the kids together. And all the kids go together to the school and have a dance. And then I guess we would like throw a party after. But like with other high school kids, but like, it was more of a controlled environment than, like, me just going out for the night.

[A]

I know. Like, we would sneak out. I mean, I was 16. We would drive up to Philly and go get into, like, an 18 and up club in, like, the sluttiest outfits you ever saw and just be drinky. And, like, it's terrifying.

[B]

It is. So, I mean, homecoming. I mean, honestly, parents are involved. There's usually designated drivers.

[A]

Slut it up. Yeah, girlies.

[B]

I would. Whatever a parent wants to do. I'm not a parent, so. But they're short, and I honestly wasn't cute like that back then.

[A]

If I'm a parent and I am like, this is crazy to me that you. That this is what y' all are wearing. I am doing my research to see if it's normal or if my daughter's just a. I'm calling other parents, and I'm, like, circling the wagons and being like, is this what we're doing? Like, I'm curious if that's how other parents act. And again, like, I want to try lightly because I'm not a parent, so I can't put myself in that position. But I think I'd be like. Like, are guys. Are we. We letting them wear this? Like, and then if we're all like, yeah, that's what they want to do, I'd be like, all right.

[B]

That's what the moms are saying. I feel like the dads are the ones having a hard time with this. My dad would have a harder time with this. My mom.

[A]

I know. Like, I wouldn't want to come down with my, like, booty cheeks hanging out in this little handkerchief dress in front of my dad.

[B]

My mom never said one word to me my entire life about my clothing, what I wore. My dad was always the one that was like, cover up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Put on a burlap sack.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. So pivoting to a different type of fashion controversy, an adult Danielle Bernstein, controversial figure. Yeah.

[B]

She's gotten some bad press over the years. She. She was one of the original fashion bloggers. She does. We were what. She has a pretty big fashion brand with the same name, and I do. I do like, a lot of the stuff that she makes. She's gotten some. Some bad press throughout the years. I can't speak to whether it's true or not. But for appropriating designs from.

[A]

Stealing designs from small designers, women of color, I mean, there's a. There's a lot of receipts for this. I personally, because of those things, am not a fan for those reasons and, you know, kind of even knowing personally some stories of this, but whatever, we can kind of remove our personal opinions about her to talk about this. And just like a higher level.

[B]

Well, saying that it lets you guys know that we're being objective when we talk about what the. What the side we're gonna take on this one. So she put out her own TikTok. She is engaged to be married. She's been making tiktoks about planning the wedding. And so she made this TikTok talking about one of the events for her wedding. Was it the engagement?

[A]

This is her engagement party. And there is a theme.

[B]

And I will say anybody who's gone to event or planned an event, you give people advice on what to wear. So she basically said, I had this idea. I'm going to put together a landing page of all the outfits that I'm going to suggest that my guests shop, and I'm going to send it to everybody. And, you know, I watched it this morning. I. The implication is she will get a kickback. Just like any affiliate link. When you are an influencer using Shop My or like to Know or Revolve, you can build landing pages and send them to people, and you get a kickback for the sales.

[A]

And then another part of it is that when someone buys it, she's going to take it off like a registry, essentially. Yeah. So to avoid anyone wearing the same thing.

[B]

And this really, like, I actually am surprised she did not anticipate the blowback from us 100%.

[A]

Like, Danielle, have you been on the Internet with. Do you know how people react to you? Because she delivered it as like, I am a genius, and not in, like, a way that I would deliver it. Which we'll get to our thoughts. Don't worry. Which would have been like, some of y' all might not like this, but here's this idea I had, and I think to the average person who watched this TikTok or heard about this was like, oh, my God, like, completely unrelatable, totally out of pocket.

[B]

How dare you force people to shop these length switch people. She's not.

[A]

And at first I was like, that's a little cringe.

[B]

And.

[A]

And then I thought about it more, and I was like, I know how much some, if not most of the guests will appreciate this. Like, the. The amount of people that have asked me about stuff to wear to my wedding. And I am having a lot of different outfits and events. Like, not even just the Indian outfit, like the wedding, like, the. What's the vibe is There a color palette. Like, people want to dress appropriately. I hate nothing more than wearing something to a wedding and like regretting it or feeling like it wasn't formal enough or it was too formal, it didn't match the rest of the guests. Like, it's happened a couple times and I still think about it to this day.

[B]

I like the idea. And if you have ever planned any, if you've gone to a wedding, I want to know. Okay, for yours specifically, what is the weather like in LA in November? What is formal wear in la? Like in November? How fancy is the hotel? What other people wearing? Like, what is the vibe? Yeah. Do you have a color scheme you want people to wear? Like, I have talked to so many people about what I'm wearing to your wedding and like, that's what everybody wants to know is like, how fancy is too fancy. And like, I threw this birthday party this summer and I said festival wear. And there wasn't one person I invited that did side text and say, and so I made mood boards because like, festival wear could be. It could be Burning man, it could be Coachella, it could be Lollapalooza. I mean, it could be a million things and people really. Okay, if I bring my man, what does he wear? So I made these two mood boards. But like, you and I are brand ambassadors for Revol. We have shop my links and things like that. I can build a landing page in two seconds and just shoot it off to people. And people want that. People want to know what to wear. I'm not. You're not forcing people to do it.

[A]

Like, I almost think I undercorrect a little. I don't want to be that person that's like, whatever you want to do is fine. But like, I did not ever once think, here's the colors, here's the. Like, I just was like, where would you want. You know, I said, ladies, like, probably floor length. Like, it is like more of a formal event to the. To the wedding, but you could wear a cocktail. Like, I don't want to be that person, but people kind of want it. They really want that direction. At least that's what I found. And this is a high profile wedding for a fashion designer and influencer. Like, the people going to that wedding are not your average people.

[B]

This is the New York City fashion glitter.

[A]

Yes, exactly. So they want to look a certain way and they don't want to be twinning with someone else too. So it's like she really did know her audience. And it's just like, I feel Like I can speak on this as someone who, I'm not a fashion girly. I'm not a person who has all these visions of the way that I need everybody to look. And people are still asking me a lot of questions. Of course they are.

[B]

Every single person that goes to your event is going to ask you a question. And my friends, so my friends always ask me for my revolve links. They always ask me for my Amazon links. Like just if they're going to buy it anyways, why not give the person a kickback? What's the difference? She's paying for the event.

[A]

Right. So that's a whole nother part of it is like people are like, is she making money off this? As someone who knows how much it costs to plan these events. Who cares?

[B]

Literally, who cares? You're gonna buy it anyways. So the price is not jacked up because you're buying it through her affiliate link.

[A]

Yeah. And again like you don't. She didn't say you have to do this. The only thing. And I don't know what she's got planned. I'm assuming everything is gonna be big and grand and themed, but it's just for the engagement party, which I think some people were like, this isn't even for the wedding. And as someone who didn't have an engagement party, with the exception of just like the after party of the, the night I actually got engaged, like it's unrelatable to me. This is even something that I did. So it's like, this is a lot for an engagement party.

[B]

So I watched her video about her engagement party. I mean they are spending crazy amounts.

[A]

It's a huge event.

[B]

Yeah, huge event. It is the people that are catering it that designed the look of the room.

[A]

It's like a wedding like most more expensive and like more extravagant than most people's weddings by far.

[B]

I, when I watched her do a tasting because I was like, I gotta get into this.

[A]

I haven't even done a tasting for my wedding.

[B]

We can't.

[A]

We're not doing one. You heard it here first.

[B]

Listen, I.

[A]

It'll be fine. Okay?

[B]

I really wanted to like deep dive into this for you guys. Like, what is this engagement party? I mean, she's having it. She's having set design for it. She had a sit down tasting for this event with caviar and lobster and all kinds of like high end wines. And this is a real event. I think people want direction. And like you and I went to this wedding in Florida last year. We went for Andrew and Brenna. Andrew, Collin and Brenna's wedding. And the rehearsal was at this kind of like seafood. Like my. Just like a. I guess you call, like a seafood shack on the water. But, like, I wouldn't wear what I would traditionally wear out to dinner at that place. I wanted to know, like, what to wear. And I sent the bride all of. I sent Brenna my outfits and said, like, is this okay? I want somebody to just send me links to.

[A]

I know, I know. Like, that's the thing. Like, you guys can disagree if you want, but the people I know and the weddings I've gone to and people that are coming to mine want this information. Like, I said, yeah to Melissa. I sent this thing I had that I haven't worn. I've been dying to wear it. I'm like, is this appropriate for a wedding? And she was like, yes. Like, literally perfect. I'm like, thank God. It's just people want this. And I didn't go to the page and I didn't know if it was still even around. But I think there were different price points. I don't think it was like, here are all these $500 plus dresses. Like, I'm sure there was a range. And again, you don't have to. And a lot of people in the comments were like, I'm gonna politely decline or I'm just wearing something out of my closet. And it's like, that's totally fine. And I've been to weddings where I just pulled something out of my closet. But this is a huge society event. People that's not what they're doing. They are gonna buy a dress for it. And this is appreciated. Even though you or I or whoever might find it little cringe or have that be your immediate reaction to it.

[B]

Yeah. I think she didn't say, you can't walk in the door unless you provide me evidence that you shop my links.

[A]

Honestly, I would love if she did. That's so much more fun to discuss. Like, a true monster.

[B]

When I originally saw all the pushback from this, I thought that she was forcing people to buy.

[A]

We wore what clothing? Yes, yes. That would be unhinged.

[B]

I would walk in there, one of her bikinis, the little, like, beach pants.

[A]

But also, like, I don't know, there's like this part of me that wouldn't hate that too. It's like, I mean, your fashion designer true diva behavior.

[B]

But like, if you're a fashion designer, it's not that crazy to be like, you gotta wear my fashion well.

[A]

Right? Like, if you're coming to my wedding and you bring a vibrator, that's not Vibes only. Get out of here. Oh, you brought a cock ring from another brand. You can't come to the wedding anymore.

[B]

But I would support that because it's our company.

[A]

But I can't be in people's rooms checking. Should I. I'll send you around. Buzz, buzz, Literally knock on the door. Just see if there's any sex toys in here. You start uninviting people. I love this. We will put you in a security shirt, a bald cap.

[B]

You have to use the boxes as a purse. Also, you can't bring other purses in. Listen, I again, I. I could objectively look at this because I think she's got a lot of bad present. I really. It was so surprised she put this out here and thought this was gonna go over well.

[A]

I know. Like, the tone. Like, again, not a fan, but I felt for with the tone because, you know, she was like, I'm about to drop the hottest take of all of, like, wedding culture. And people are like, says, no, I.

[B]

Think other people should take a note out of this. Like, if you're not an ambassador for evolve, but you're having an event with 500 people and you're like, I will create a landing page with all of your stuff and I will send it to people to shop it. Like, you guys should reach out to revolve and ask.

[A]

And it's really, it's so specific. Like, Jenny did a mood board. You've done a mood board. Like, which are great, just to be clear. I'm appreciative, but it's, you know, it's like Pinterest Y and it's a collage vibe. Like, these are the exact dresses to either wear or find one. Similar. Like, people. People want the specificity.

[B]

I know.

[A]

So anyway, we support her on this. I hate to do it. All right, let's just take a quick break and then we will get back into it. I am telling you guys about Ollie. Okay? So Azul just had his Ollie food this morning. He was so excited to eat it. He loves to eat and he really loves this food. So Ollie delivers clean, fresh nutrition in five drool worthy flavors, even for the pickiest eaters. It is made in US Kitchens with the highest quality human grade ingredients. Their food contains no filler, preservatives, just real food. And of course, when your dog is eating healthier, they're gonna have more energy, shinier coats, better poops, better breath maybe, and more excitement. And mealtime, of course. So you're gonna have flavors like fresh beef with sweet potatoes, fresh turkey with blueberries. He had the blueberries this morning, and he really, really does love it. So they offer a few different meal plans. So you can choose between the full fresh plan. And again, this is like fresh food. You keep it in the refrigerator. You can freeze it and then defrost it, of course. Course fresh topper plan, so you can put that over your kibble. Or a mixed plan with their freshly baked recipes for your dog. They also have treats and supplements. We've been doing the treats and supplements as well, and I do feed him full fresh, but sometimes I do mix it with kibble too. I like them to chew, you know, I think it's good for their teeth to chew. That's why you have them chew treats and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, whatever you want to do, that's your prerogative. With your. With your own dog, there's a welcome kit. They will send your first box with two weeks worth of meals, a free storage container, and a guide of how to gradually switch them over to their new diet. So I'm just really a big fan of this. And also, Ollie is the only fresh dog food that comes with unlimited routine health screenings so you can get your pup on track to living their healthiest, happiest life. So you guys can check that out as well. So dogs deserve the best, and that means fresh, healthy food. Head to ollie.com GGE tell them all about your dog, and use code GGE to get six 60% off your welcome kit when you subscribe today. Plus, they offer a happiness guarantee on the first box. So if you're not completely satisfied, you'll get your money back. That's O l l I e.com GGE and enter code GGE to get 60% off your first box.

[B]

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[A]

It's gonna be like a chain to your desk. If you're not gonna Miss a call, people don't even go to work anymore, right?

[B]

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[A]

Okay? And telling you guys about Saks Fifth Avenue once again. I have curated a landing page of Saks dresses for my wedding.

[B]

I would.

[A]

I mean, that's the thing. Like, it would be so easy to literally go to Saks because there are different price points, of course, and be like, here is the range of all the dresses, starting with maybe a brand like Alice and Olivia, all the way up to Gucci or Prada, you know, so we just love Saks so, so much, you guys. I've been on a journey to find the shoes that I'm gonna wear for my wedding. And I think I have found them. So stay tuned. I'll do like a little unboxing. But we just love it. I mean, you can find everything. Again, all different types of brands.

[B]

If you have weddings or events coming up, shoes, purses, obviously one stop, shop for everything. You get your airport outfit there too. I mean, they have everything.

[A]

Yes. They have your athleisure, they have your work clothes. If you guys are going to office or you just want to, you know, show out when you're walking, working at home. I mean, I'm just looking at this, like, Oscar de la Renta dress. Looks like it's just straight off the Runway and, you know, get your denim and your sneakers and everything. We are just such fans. I mean, this has just been a go to. I've had to shop for so much lately, so I'm just, like, loving heading to Saks for everything I need. And we, of course, want you guys to check it out for again, whatever event or everyday thing you have going on. So if you are like us and you are looking for ways to elevate your wardrobe from what to wear to a wedding to a workout, you can head to Saks Fifth Avenue or Saks.com for inspiring ways to elevate your personal style every day.

[B]

Okay. The war on freedom of speech.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So after we recorded last week, the decision came down from ABC to remove Jimmy Kimmel from his show for what they deemed to be insensitive remarks. And as we record now, ABC has sort of made an about face, made a statement after we've spent the last days having thoughtful conversations and after those conversations, reached a decision to return the show on Tuesday.

[A]

So thoughtful conversations. They lost a shit ton of money. $4.5 billion billion, like, overnight. And, you know, I did cancel my Hulu Disney. They're tied in. I guess I don't never really understand what's going on. But that's what everybody said to do. So I did it.

[B]

That was the parent company.

[A]

Parent company.

[B]

So cancel it.

[A]

ABC and all of that. And I, you know, listen, I couldn't cancel every company that I disagree with what they've done. Like, we would have nothing, unfortunately. That's your iPhone, your Amazon. If you really are like, if every single company that has supported Donald Trump in some way, let's just say that's your line. You'd. It'd be tough. And so I'm not in this, like, boycott everything way. I try my best. I've cut back a lot. This is day to day. I'm thinking about this. I want to really make a statement with my, my spending. And this was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it. I wanna do this. I want to send the message. And I, I was like, busy traveling. It took me a couple days and I did it Sunday night. And then this happened Monday. I was like, oh, immediate result. Yes, I did it.

[B]

You know, I, I think we thankfully have a capitalist society in this instance where companies have to listen to their consumers. But, you know, anybody in media took this really hard. No matter what side of the aisle you were on. I mean, you and I found ourselves agreeing with people that I've never agreed with in my entire life. And this was a real threat to freedom of speech. And, you know, it's hard for me. I can't have these giant spikes in anger and sadness every day. I feel like I don't have time to come up for air before the next thing happens, before we've, you know, taken away the jobs report or the slavery exhibits at the Smithsonian. I mean, every five seconds, there's, like, another thing, and I can't. I have to be able to get through the day. I have to be able to get through life. But this was really tough. I mean, you and I have had microphones in our hands for almost a decade, and I feel honored to have that right. And I feel happy to live in a country that has allowed you and I to have opinions that other people don't agree with. And I have to listen to other people with opinions that I also don't agree with. And those people have the right to say those things. And I don't think freedom of speech, by the way, means you can say anything.

[A]

Well, it doesn't.

[B]

And you can't yell gun on a plane. You can't yell fire at a movie theater. And that is what the Supreme Court decides. I don't think they decide that. But there are checks and balances in laws that have thus governed this. But people that I really don't agree with, like the kkk, are allowed to have peaceful protests and get on a stage and say things. And I think we've lived in a country where we've tolerated that up until now.

[A]

Yeah, I think people got a little confused about what freedom of speech is. And this was not just someone getting fired from their job, you know, and this wasn't Cancel Culture, and I'm happy to explain why, but, I mean, I loved this one post from the Space Gal and about what actually happened. And I don't know that I need to bore you guys with the details, but there was a merger with nexstar. There's an FCC rule that says no single broadcasting company can reach more than 39% of the country. It's illegal. There's reasons for this. So these companies aren't controlling all of our media, which we're getting close to that, but whatever. So they wanted this merger, and Brennan Carr is in charge of the fcc, and Trump is telling him what to do. And the reasons why this were so alarming is because, for one, the President has a hit list of enemies, which he's like Colbert first and then Kimmel and then Fallon. It's just like this is so sick. I can't even when I'm saying it, it's hard to even fathom. But on top of that. So he was basically the one that, that got Brendan Carr to get Jimmy Kimmel fired. Like, this wasn't ABC being like, oh, we don't like what you said. And I think there's receipts and even more is coming out of like, just exactly how this happened. Like, people who were like, well, he said this insensitive thing about Charlie Kirk. It's like, that's not even, that has nothing to do with it. They were trying to find a reason to please Donald Trump and get this merger approved. And I like the distinction in this post where it says free speech is the right to express information, ideas and opinions without government interference, censorship or punishment. Read that last part again. Like, that's the issue. Like, I think if ABC just would have outright fired him. We don't like what you said. People would have been up in arms. But this was clearly, again, interference from the government coming down from the present, who is going after his critics.

[B]

This wasn't even thinly veiled this time, which was frightening. You know, when Colbert, when Colbert show was canceled, they at least made this whole show of, that his contract was ending and that his numbers were down. They didn't even attempt to make it seem like this was not politically motivated this time. And it's extremely disheartening. And of course, as anybody who has dedicated my life to holding a microphone and I make my living from it, it's frightening because you have to say to yourself, where is the line? And there shouldn't even be. When did, when, when does Donald Trump get to decide what, is he just going to be watching Jeopardy. One day? And he's like, these questions are too hard. I don't understand them. Jeopardy's gotten too woke. Cancel Jeopardy. Like, where is the line going to exist? And it, it frightens me. It should frighten, it should frighten anybody.

[A]

It's just totally, I want to say unbelievable. But like, we can believe it. This man has been in our lives for a decade now in this way. And I just don't understand how, I mean, I think this got a ton of pushback. And this is like, this is fascism. This is authoritarianism. I was looking at this blue sky post from Robert Reich that says punishing college students for protesting him, pressuring TV networks to fire late night talk show hosts for criticizing him, suing newspapers for reporting he doesn't like. If this were happening in another country, what would you call it just try to look at it from the outside. Do you see what's happening? Like, the road that we're headed down? And so people went fucking bananas, and they actually showed their spending power. And like you said, I mean, it is like, this is capitalism, which is so sad in a way, but it's also encouraging because we really do hold the power.

[B]

It's the only shining beacon of hope I've actually had in quite some time that, like, oh, this is what will move the needle. People will start losing money. Like, you won't convince these giant companies to do the right thing and not align with Donald Trump until you pull your funds from them. And, you know, it goes without saying that I believe that people have the right to express opinions, whether I believe in them or not. And Charlie Kirk is the perfect example of that. I don't agree with anything that man really said for the most part. And I've gone through his website and his reels and all of his content, but I stand by the fact that he deserved to express those opinions. And it's a really dangerous slippery slope because once we start this, when could it possibly be 100%?

[A]

And. And I think there was this misguided, like, well, now the cancel culture tables have turned, and it's like, to call this cancel culture, you don't get it. And while we're here, I fucking hate cancel culture. I think there is nothing more pathetic than digging up old tweets, especially from people who call themselves progressives. If you know who someone is now and you know where their values lie and what they speak about, but you try to dig up stuff they said 10 or 15 years ago that doesn't align with them now. Shouldn't you celebrate the progress instead of wanting them to lose their livelihood over it? Like, I've gone off on this for so many years, and I understand that we need to hold people in power accountable. Like, if you're Morgan Wallen and you say the N word, you might get dropped by your label people, you might lose fans, and, like, that's the consequence of your actions. And I think people just kind of distorted all of it together. And it just was different. It was just different. It was like a government overreach. It's this slippery slope, and that's why it was so alarming.

[B]

It is so not cancel culture to me at all. I mean, we are all, as consumers, allowed to say, I learned this thing about somebody that they did currently, and I could no longer support them emotionally or financially. Zach Bryan is an example. Brianna Chicken Fry came out, said all these things about him, and I have a right to not go to his concerts now and spend money. And that's not cancel culture. That's somebody said something about somebody. That's a current situation.

[A]

There's like a real distinction. So anyway, I mean, we're on this roller coaster and, you know, he's back as we record. I mean, he's back tonight, But I guess some stations still aren't airing him.

[B]

But so the original station owners, nexstar and Sinclair, are still refusing to air it. So they are setting up this battle between the network and people who carry the programming. Dozens of US Markets and, you know, that is up for judges to decide whether that's legal. Local markets should be able to, I guess, decide what is legal. So viewers in D.C. seattle, Indianapolis, Nashville and other markets will be unable to watch Kimmel's first show. They might relinquish. But this is not completely over. So these networks still are refusing to air it.

[A]

Yeah. And I mean, there was such an intense backlash. And it wasn't just like, I love Jimmy Kimmel and I want his show to be on air. Half these people don't fucking watch the show. It was just like, like silencing journalists, silencing comedians, artists. Like, this is terrifying stuff and no one should want this. No, like, I just could scream it. Like, you shouldn't want know it. No matter what you. You love Donald Trump or whatever the fuck, you still shouldn't want this. Unless you're like, you know what, Fascism? That's what I want. Unless that's for something you want. For some reason you were like, I love Russia and China and like, like North Korea. Like, if that's what you want, fine. I can't argue with that. But it's just like, how do you not see the path we're headed down?

[B]

Nobody on either side of the. What if Kamala was the president and she decided that every single thing that the right thought and felt was stupid and no longer able to air? And what if we took all of. What do you guys have on the air?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

For comedy and late night hosts?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

But what if she decided that and people would be up in arms on the other side of the fence as well? No one should want this on either side of the fence ever, because it sets a terrible precedent for the future.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's just been like a dark time. I mean, seeing this Charlie Kirk Memorial, which was a political rally disguised as a funeral. I mean, so many Things about it were disturbing. I mean, Stephen Miller's speech was the closest thing to Hitler I've seen. It was, like, abhorrent. This. Like, you are nothing. You were going after you. And then to wrap it up talking about God and Christianity. Again, I can't stress enough. If I was, like, a real Christian, I would be furious at what is happening to this religion. So I was appalled at a lot of things. And I'm not speaking about celebrating his life if that's what people wanted to do, but just the vibe. Vibes were scary.

[B]

I mean, you hear the president, United States saying, I hate my opponents, and I don't want the best for them.

[A]

The constituents of the country you're supposed to be in charge of.

[B]

Yeah, this. I mean, this. We've never seen this, and I've never seen a president say stuff like this. I mean, this is who y' all are following.

[A]

Did you see. There was, like, merch and have you seen videos of the trash that got left behind? It looks like, like a war zone. The amount of trash that people left behind at the. This thing where they were supposed to honor this person they looked up to and respected. I mean, it was real exploitation of someone's death. Truly, no matter what side you're on, you have to admit that that was a real exploitation of death for political gain.

[B]

I agree. Well, and better news, we solved autism.

[A]

So Trump teased the autism cure at the fun. He was, like, hot. He was like, tea.

[B]

Drop it in tomorrow.

[A]

Wait for it. We're launching that autism cure.

[B]

And he was so excited to drop this that he couldn't even find the time to figure out how to pronounce acetaminophen. Y' all are taking advice from a person who can't even pronounce the ingredient.

[A]

Yes. Like, I. I can't believe. Like, I. Acetaminophen is a little bit of a tricky word, but sure wanted to practice with him.

[B]

If I was gonna give a speech, though, I would nail it.

[A]

He would never.

[B]

Talking about it. He was like, aceta.

[A]

Wait, what? What? Recently, that he didn't. That he didn't pronounce.

[B]

It was. It was like. It was like coffee.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no.

[B]

But it was like his, like, current coffee fee.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yosemite. He was talking about Yosemite national park, and he said, yo, Semite. Like, it was two words, like anti Semite. Yo, Semite.

[A]

Yeah, I just.

[B]

Sometimes I just have to laugh that, like, this is who people voted for. Like, you. All the terrible, horrible things that I think are happening that really deserve a lot of attention and seriousness. Of course. Like, it's so. That's the most ridiculous person on earth. This is who everyone's afraid of. I know this person who can't pronounce words. He teases like, the hottest medical drop of the year. And he's like, we solved autism and can't pronounce it.

[A]

We're like making jokes. This is just disgusting. I mean, this on so many different levels. I mean, I think the anti science movement and people who are completely unqualified being in charge of our health agencies and thinking they know more than doctors is one of the worst things to happen since Donald Trump took off. It's one of the most dangerous. But this is just another level. I mean, there is no actual data or proof that taking Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism. There are a few studies have suggested a possible length, but there's other factors, of course. I mean, this goes without saying. Like, the evidence is not there. I mean, I asked a friend this morning, she has a son that's autistic. And I just was like, I'm so enraged about this. Like, I just this, I'm so mad. And she was like, yes, it's in like the, the lack of science is real, is deeply disturbing. But her son, who's autistic, she just was like, for the record, I never took Tylenol once and I did take Tylenol with my other son who was not autistic. I mean, again, she's one person. But that just not that that goes to show, but it's just so upsetting.

[B]

I mean, there's hundreds of the entire medical community obviously came out against this that you can't easily attribute a single cause to autism. There is hundreds of other factors that it could be attributed to, whether they're environmental or hereditary. Drinking during pregnancy, there's tons of other things. And besides the active ingredient in Tylenol.

[A]

And the hottest take I've seen today is that aut was around way before Tylenol. Like, I think a decade between which, duh. And it's just another example of the attack on women, like the abortion. Birth control is next. We've been saying it and it is on the chopping block as we speak. And now pain relief during pregnancy.

[B]

Also, where is Tylenol in all of this? Okay, Donald Trump thinks Tylenol is not going to come after that. You can't just, first of all, acetaminophen. Acetaminophen, Acetaminophen, acetaminophen. Listen, I Can say it. Acetaminophen. Acetaminophen is the active ingredient in Tylenol. Advil is having a field day. But you think that so.

[A]

Ibuprofen. Yeah, ibuprofen. Ibuprofen's having a field day.

[B]

They're killing it. Advil, Aleve, Johnson and Johnson previously owned Tylenol, and it spun off into another company. But. But you think Big Pharma isn't going to come after you? It's crazy. I mean, this is one of the biggest industries in the United States.

[A]

I can't believe that this administration has made me side with Big Pharma. How are we Team Tylenol?

[B]

Every day I'm like, how am I agreeing with other people?

[A]

The nation is rallying around Jimmy Kimmel and Big pharma, and that's 2025. I can't imagine what a woman who has a child with autism who took Tylenol during her pregnancy would think about this. It makes me like. I don't know, I just got, like, so emotional. Also, I have, like, a strong tie to it with my friend. Can you imagine? You have the president with no qualifications and RFK being like, this is where what did it. I am so furious.

[B]

I am, too.

[A]

How dare you?

[B]

I am, too. This fucking clown who can't even be bothered to know the research, pronounce the words right is blaming you for what you have supposedly done to your child because you were just trying to get through a day of your life, the nine months that are so. How dare a fucking man tell you to deal with anything? A person who will never have to deal with what it's like, like to.

[A]

Create a life go off okay.

[B]

It's been a really tough time in this country for a lot of people on both sides of the fence. I don't want to just say, like, just for me and just because we're in media and, you know, I think everyone's like, well, why do you care about this thing and not that thing? I. I cannot be a subject matter expert on everything, and I cannot dedicate all my time and energy to every single thing. But particularly right now, things feel. Feel bad and scary, and I. I'm. I'm struggling. I'm, like, really struggling with it. I know a lot of people are.

[A]

Yeah. I think this has been the dark. One of the darkest times, like, the last few weeks. But we're gonna lighten it up.

[B]

We are. And we just want you guys to know, like, we. We hear you. We appreciate your messages. And last week's Episode talking about what was happening with Charlie Kirk. I mean, I told Ashley, I don't even. I can't even get out of bed. I don't want to look at our comments. And Ashley was like, I really encourage you to look at our comments. And the response from you guys was so wonderful and sweet and your messages were great. And I think people do want to hear this stuff.

[A]

And yeah, they're overwhelmingly positive. A few people came for me, told me I have to issue an apology.

[B]

No.

[A]

For I don't need to get into it. But yes, we got a lot of positive feedback. So many, so many messages and comments and things like that. So we are talking about the summer I turn pretty, which the finale was a week ago. And we'll chat about it. You know, you've seen all the takes. It's the whole Internet. The show has just taken the world by storm. But Raina did watch it. Well, I don't wanna.

[B]

You know, it's important to me that you and I can have a discussion on this show. And that's why you watch Bravo stuff sometimes. So that you and I can talk about it. It is the most I've ever felt left out of a culture moment in my life. And it is very. Pick me that I don't watch it. But it's the most I've seen anything talked about on the Internet. And honestly, thank God for a break from other stuff.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I watched the finale last night. I asked you, should I watch the first episode? And you were like, just watch. Watch the finale?

[A]

Yeah, I said, if you want to watch. I think it'd be funny if you watch the very first episode and the finale. But instead I just sent you an eight minute long. Yeah. And you synopsis of the show.

[B]

And you kept saying, well, I'm sure you already know this. I'm sure you already know this. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know. I actually didn't even know which one was Conrad. I had to, like, I had to do it. I had a chat. GPT like the two brothers and what they're. I'm.

[A]

I mean, so when you show.

[B]

I've never seen.

[A]

I know, but when you see it in your feed, I mean, it's bustle and Elite dailies, whole feed. Chicks in the office. I mean, you know, do you just scroll by it?

[B]

I just scroll.

[A]

There's no point to look. Okay. Yeah. So there were some things I was like, I mean, you know that. And you were like, I do not know that. Yeah, I Mean, I liked the finale. I, you know, everybody was so horny for it. I mean, they don't have sex scenes like that in the historically, so this sex scene was so hot. I just feel like we've been edging for it all season long. And, you know, she of course, ended up with Conrad and now there's going.

[B]

To be a movie.

[A]

So Amazon's going to do a movie. They haven't even started filming it yet, so it's going to be next year, the year after. And, you know, part of me feels like I'm okay. I'm good with how it ended. I don't know that I need more. Of course I'll watch the movie. But I don't know, even this season, I was like, I think we're done here. You know, I preferred this season the least. I still loved it. Of course. I think Belly was the least likable this season, but it's okay. It's just my opinion and I love the show, but I just am like, I don't need. I think I'm good.

[B]

You feel like they put the appropriate period at the end of it and you kind of assume they end up together and you're good.

[A]

Yeah. But I mean, I'll watch the movie, of course, and I hope they do a great job with it and I hope everyone loves it. I just.

[B]

Do you like who she ended up with?

[A]

How do you feel about it? Yeah, I guess it's like I got. Yeah. I certainly didn't want her to end up with Jeremiah. Okay. So. Yes.

[B]

Because you think that she loves Conrad, like, way more.

[A]

Yeah, they love each other.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I hope it works out. He does. You know, he broke up with her once. He broke her heart once, always. But Jeremiah cheated on her.

[B]

True.

[A]

Yeah. It's just kind of like there are more men in the world than these two brothers. Like, it is this. It's crazy to ping pong back and forth with the sex. You know what I mean? Like, all she does is these brothers to Taylor Swift songs. Which, by the way, I didn't know that Taylor Swift song Dress. I didn't know she had a song that spicy. Did you?

[B]

I had no idea.

[A]

I never heard it.

[B]

I didn't know that she sang about that type of stuff.

[A]

I did not know. And I stand corrected. I did not think she had a sexy song in her catalog. And that song is sexy and it was perfectly placed. And just the sheer amount of Taylor Swift songs, like, we've both been looking into this. I mean, Jenny Han, the creator, the author of the books, loves Taylor Swift. They have that Amazon money. Like, every time I hear a Taylor Swift song in full, dozens of Taylor Swift songs throughout the history of this show, I'm like, how much does this fucking cost?

[B]

So there's 23 Taylor Swift songs used throughout this show.

[A]

I thought it was like, 33. Whatever.

[B]

Regardless, it's a ton and it's unprecedented. So I did a little bit of, like, research to see, like, are other people at this level lending their songs to shows, and it does not happen. So Beyonce is the only other person is obviously at this level. And unless she is involved in a project, her songs aren't really used as much. I mean, it does not surprise me that Taylor Swift lent her music to, like, High School Love Show. I mean, it's very Taylor Swift.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, like, has she ever addressed it? Not to my knowledge. I mean, the volume, it is one after the other. Well, there was some episodes where they didn't play any, and they said that it was because the symbolism would have been that Belly wasn't in touch with her emotions at the time. Or whatever. But, like, you're like, wait, I just heard a Taylor Swift song? It's crazy.

[B]

Well, it's. I mean, it's twofold. It's the budget. And also, like, artists have to agree to lend their catalog to these shows. Like, they also have to be like, I do agree that, like, this show content aligns with my music. So it's like, twofold, and this doesn't happen.

[A]

Yeah, it is pretty nuts. And just while we're talking about music, Cardi B. Album dropped. Am I the drama? I absolutely love it. We're running short on time. I don't want to list out all my favorite tracks, but I'm so into it. This is her sophomore album, and I think this has really cemented her as, like, a true icon as a rapper. And I mean, her first album, I was obsessed with no skips. I love this one too. And so anyway, just. I love her, like, hustling into promote this album. It's just been very funny, and I'm just such a fan. And she's just like. She lights up my life. So I love. I really, really love the album. Album. You guys should check it out.

[B]

And she just announced her fourth pregnancy.

[A]

She's having another kid.

[B]

She had two kids this month.

[A]

Imagine that being your mom.

[B]

Cardi B. I think about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So she. She's birthing two things this year.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And next week, Taylor Swift's album Life of a Showgirl comes Out. And we will, you know, we'll listen. What. We'll let you know.

[A]

We think. Yeah. And we told you guys to watch a Charlie Sheen doc and we'll talk about it. But I didn't get to it. I didn't do my homework. So push it back one week. We'll discuss it eventually. And we're just gonna wrap up with a few very quick headlines.

[B]

So Bravo announced that Summer House is getting a spinoff that they're filming in New York City. It will have Kyle and Amanda and is Lindsey Hubbard. She confirmed for it as well. And I think people have asked for this for a long time, and I think that it's kind of. It's not unrelatable that these people go to the Hamptons on the weekends in the summertime. Cause I do. But I think at a certain point, you're like, I'd like to see these people outside of an environment where they're just in this home funneling alcohol. And there is more to their lives. And they are business people and entrepreneurs. And I think people want to see more of their lives. So the Bravo prayers have been answ. I'll watch it. I'll check it out.

[A]

Yeah, I think we. We mentioned this, that we wanted to see this. Chicks in the office mentioned it as well. And so, I mean, you know, we're inside the bell curve with everyone else. If we're talking about it, it seems like what other people wanted too. Like, I found myself when they were in the city wanting more of that than, like, seeing these people just get drunk and party and have theme parties. So I'm looking forward to that. But I think people are like, well, Paige isn't going to be on it, and she was obviously like a star of the show. And so we'll see how it does. But I think people will do tune in for sure. Horse girl Fall is here.

[B]

I'm here for it. So New York Fashion Week this year displayed a lot of horse themed attire. So Ralph Lauren has obviously never moved away from that. It sees it's riding boots. It is sweaters with horses. It's the riding jackets. I love this style. I mean, I always just think people just be trying to look for something to write about. Every fall is Horse girl Fall.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, we've always seen this equestrian style. I mean, dating back to. I used to wear like a tall fry boot with a legging. You know, like, this is not anything new, but I just think it is very funny that it's like called Horse girl Fall. Like, there's Some things that are very horsey. Like a horse on them.

[B]

Yeah, I like it. I really like it. I like. That's right. I like a sweater knit with like a knit horse on it.

[A]

Okay, so horse girl falls here. Tell us what you guys think about it. And then lastly, statue of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein shaking hands mysteriously appears in dc.

[B]

They're not just shaking hands. They appear to be frolicking.

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

It is insane. So someone, I guess made these statues, put them on the national monument and it. It's insane looking.

[A]

How did they put those up?

[B]

Like, I mean, I'm assuming they obviously. What? They make them and they make them at home and they deliver them in the middle of the night.

[A]

Them at home? No, stop, no. I'm just looking it up for more information. I mean, I think with. This is breaking news as we speak, but this huge bronze statue of them frolicking, it's titled the Secret Handshake. The statue of Trump and Epstein is designed to look like a monument and features the two men smiling as they hold hands and twirl. The artists who produced the work declined to identify themselves, obviously asking only to collectively be called the Secret Handshake. We like the idea that September is unofficially called Friendship Month. Set a representative for the artists, they're.

[B]

Just, they're smiling lovingly at each other. They're holding hands. They have their. Their legs up like they're skipping through a field.

[A]

Because we're not forgetting about the Epstein files. Someone said acetaminophen. It's pronounced acetam Epstein files. I saw that in the comments. They're like, it's pronounced.

[B]

I mean, you know that I'm all about my conspiracy theories and a lot of this is happening at the height of. Let's see the Epstein files.

[A]

Wait, did you see this picture? Like the way it's framed?

[B]

Yes. It's insane.

[A]

Well, thank you guys for listening. Girls gotta eat.com get tickets to the holiday shows. They are on sale New York and LA. So you guys can get those at Girls Gotta Eat Dot com. Girls Gotta Eat Podcast and Instagram and Tick Tock. I'm Ash Hess. Raina is Reina Duck Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube Share this episode with a friend. Drop us a comment on YouTube and we will see you Monday.

[B]

Have a great weekend, guys.

[A]

Sa.