The Snack: Taylor Frankie Paul, JT’s DUI, and The Devil Wears Target

Summary

Podcast Summary: Girls Gotta Eat – "The Snack: Taylor Frankie Paul, JT’s DUI, and The Devil Wears Target" Episode Date: March 26, 2026 | Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine (A), Rayna Greenberg (B)

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Overview

This episode of "The Snack" (Girls Gotta Eat's pop culture mini-episode) zips through a wild lineup of recent news: a surprise 90s "Iconic Tour," Afroman’s legal win over the cops who raided his house, the release of Justin Timberlake’s DUI bodycam footage, the jaw-dropping saga of Taylor Frankie Paul, and some Target/Devil Wears Prada fashion crimes. The hosts, Ashley and Rayna, keep things comedic and biting, balancing hot takes on scandal with authentic reflection and plenty of pop culture references.

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Major Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. The "Iconic Tour" & Concert Vibes — [00:21–02:48]

• Ashley brings the news of the TLC, En Vogue, and Salt-N-Pepa “It’s Iconic” tour, and the hosts reminisce about their love for 90s girl groups.
  • “TLC is my favorite girl group of all time. … Saw them years ago, was like a religious experience.” (A, 01:06)
• Debate: Outdoor vs. indoor concert venues; outdoor is fine for “background music vibes”—90s alternative rock preferred, but rap and hip hop need to be inside with "bass boomin’."
• Age range of attendees: “I think it’ll be right our age. Older millennials and young millennials.” (B, 01:58)

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2. Afroman vs. the Police — [03:13–06:53]

• Story Recap: Afroman’s Ohio house was wrongly raided in 2022 for alleged drug and kidnapping activity; nothing was found, and footage showed over-the-top police action (“they looked like fucking clowns” – A, 05:20).
• Afroman's response: Used the raid's CCTV footage to make satirical music videos (“Lemon Pound Cake” and more), directly naming the raiding officers and mocking them.
• Police sued for defamation; Afroman won, with the court ruling in favor of satire and free speech.
  • Notable quote: “You just don’t see the police, you don’t see the court system siding with a Black man against the cops. And I like, I love the win.” (B, 06:36)

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3. Justin Timberlake’s DUI Bodycam Saga — [07:06–14:51]

• Background: Footage of JT’s 2024 DUI arrest in Sag Harbor, NY, released after failed legal attempts to keep it private.
• Discussed the public’s reaction, noting that JT comes off surprisingly likable and humble.
  • “I expected, like, a ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ moment. … And it never happens.” (A, 09:01)
  • “This has brought me back as a fan. … He seems so nice, he’s so polite, he’s so funny.” (A, 08:18)
• Mixed reflections: JT’s previous public image was “giving the ick” due to his treatment of Janet Jackson, Britney Spears, but this video repairs some of that damage for Ashley.
• Rayna and Ashley share personal stories about DUI, sobriety tests, and the fears of public embarrassment.
• Reflection on the “small town” jail experience (“It’s like the principal’s office … They brought me a blanket, let me check Facebook”—A, 12:11).
• Meta-discussion: Viral memes about letting JT go if he performed “SexyBack.”
• Final take: “I just think this is good for his image … whether you think he’s a good guy or he’s just too drunk to know what’s happening.” (A, 14:28)

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4. Taylor Frankie Paul & The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives — [19:43–39:19]

a. Backstory — [20:00–22:21]

• Taylor Frankie Paul was cast as the next Bachelorette, despite a well-documented history of domestic violence, as seen in her starring role on the reality show "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives."
• Audacious casting for a usually “squeaky clean, Disney-owned franchise.”

b. The 2023 Domestic Violence Video — [22:21–27:42]

• Recap: Taylor arrested after a drunk, violent altercation with partner Dakota—furniture thrown, child possibly present. Production was shut down for 11 months.
• Taylor: “deeply unwell,” continues destructive behavior on- and off-camera.

c. Release/Cancellation Fallout — [27:42–31:46]

• TMZ released the never-before-seen incident video (sold only by Dakota, legally).
• ABC canceled the upcoming Bachelorette season hours after the video dropped.
  • “The video dropped … by the afternoon, Bachelor has canceled the season. It happened so quick.” (A, 24:51)
• Hosts speculate ABC may have orchestrated the video’s release to justify canceling a doomed season.

d. Who’s to Blame & Double Standards — [31:46–36:20]

• ABC did extensive background checks—“They know if you got a parking ticket.” (B, 31:06)
• The optics: Had Taylor been a man or woman of color, she wouldn't have been cast. Also, why are NFL abusers still on TV?
  • “If we’re canceling the Bachelorette over this, when are we cancelling the NFL season?” (A, 34:48)
• Discussion of “reactive abuse” and the complexities of abusive relationships.

e. Show Fate & The Kids — [36:20–39:19]

• Speculation: Disney/ABC won’t air the season or revive the show. Concern and empathy primarily for the children involved.
• “Mostly the children. … Everyone’s at fault when it comes to, like, kids.” (A, 33:26)

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5. Mormon Wives: Spinoffs & Divorce Drama — [39:19–46:28]

• Major headlines: Jordan files for divorce from Jesse; Michaela and Jace split up after 8 years; drama with restraining orders.
• “Get ready with me to get divorced” TikTok jokes – hosts ruthlessly riff on Mormon MomTok and reality trends.
• Rapid commentary on side characters, spinoff rumors, and favorite (and least favorite) cast members.

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6. The Devil Wears Target — [46:39–48:42]

• Target launches "Devil Wears Prada" graphic tees—immediate roasting.
  • “Big clip art of shoes and sayings and eight different fonts on one shirt.” (B, 46:39)
• Questioning if the merch is actually licensed: “Truly, it’s the fashion movie … How did they co-sign this?” (A, 48:13)

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7. TSA Chaos & Flying Woes — [48:50–53:07]

• Current nightmare: TSA strikes causing 4-hour+ security lines, especially in southern airports.
• ICE agents sent in to “help” but just stand around, getting paid while TSA staff are unpaid.
  • “ICE agents are there unmasked, thank God, and they’re just standing around. … Getting paid $150k a year to stand around while TSA agents are working their asses off, understaffed, and not being paid.” (A, 49:11)
• Political frustration aimed at Trump and the GOP: “Donald Trump just has always wanted to just ruin the country.” (A, 53:07)
• Delta ends Congress’s line-cutting perks—hosts cheer: “Once people really start to experience this hardship themselves…” (A, 51:11)

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8. Punch the Monkey’s Love Life & Heartwarming Animal Stories — [54:06–58:55]

• Lighthearted closer: Updates on viral Japanese monkey “Punch” (now rumored to have a girlfriend).
• Hero Dogs Story: Seven dogs stolen for the Chinese meat trade escape and travel 10 miles as a pack, led by a corgi, to reunite with owners.
  • “This is real-life Homeward Bound. … The real Seal Team 6. These dogs really did that.” (A, 57:34)
• Emotional reflection on the purity of animal stories: “My heart literally cannot handle it. … too heartwarming, too pure, needs to be a movie.” (A, 57:08)
• Comic fantasy pitch: Replace The Bachelorette with the “dog hero pack” story.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “You just don’t see the police … siding with a Black man against the cops. … I love the win.” – Rayna, [06:36]
• “I was such a huge fan of him, and then I really pulled back… I feel like I’m a fan again.” – Ashley, on JT, [08:18]
• “The memes … If I was that cop [arresting JT] I would have asked him to perform, like, three songs and let him free.” – Ashley, [13:31]
• “I feel like I’m watching a person who’s really disturbed. … This is too private.” – Ashley, on Taylor Frankie Paul, [38:33]
• “If we’re canceling the Bachelorette over this, when are we canceling the NFL season?” – Ashley, [34:48]
• “ICE agents are … getting paid $150k … while TSA agents are working their asses off, understaffed, and not being paid. … It’s so dark, it’s so gross.” – Ashley, [49:11]
• “This is real-life Homeward Bound. This is the real SEAL Team 6. … I can’t believe it.” – Ashley, [57:34]

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Important Timestamps by Segment

• Concert Tour Talk: [00:21–02:48]
• Afroman’s Lawsuit: [03:13–06:53]
• Justin Timberlake DUI Footage: [07:06–14:51]
• Taylor Frankie Paul Saga: [19:43–39:19]
• Mormon Wives Updates: [39:19–46:28]
• Target’s Devil Wears Prada Merch: [46:39–48:42]
• TSA News & Political Frustration: [48:50–53:07]
• Punch the Monkey & Hero Dogs: [54:06–58:55]

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Tone & Language

• Irreverent, comedic, sharp pop-culture satire with moments of serious commentary.
• Language is raw, honest, and true to the hosts’ personalities, e.g., “We could go three more hours but we’ll keep it moving,” “So many fonts on one shirt…”
• Willing to be emotional and compassionate, especially concerning animal stories and children.

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Recap

Over an hour, Ashley and Rayna mix relentless pop culture snark with sincere reflection—serving up takes on legal cases, reality TV implosions, nostalgia tours, political dysfunction, and the essential goodness of dogs. If you missed the episode, expect a rollercoaster from genuine LOLs to real talk about abuse, accountability, and why some Target fashion crimes are simply unforgivable.

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“That’s your Snack, you guys!”

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Transcript

[A]

This week on the snack, justin timberlake's dui taylor, frankie paul and the devil wears target.

[B]

This is a d radio production.

[A]

Enjoy, Cutie. Okay, so, Raina, can I tell you what concert is on sale this week? I haven't even told you about this.

[B]

Cardi Bay, you're not ready. Cardi B's been on sale.

[A]

I don't know if you're gonna want to go to this. Probably not. I got it live on air.

[B]

I'm in my concert era.

[A]

Okay, well, then hear me out, tlc, okay? And Vogue and Salt and Peppa are touring together. I know.

[B]

How did we get this blast called

[A]

the It's Iconic tour.

[B]

It is iconic.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Where is it?

[A]

All over. In weird places. It's all, like, major cities, but right outside the.

[B]

Like, where is it in la? It's low.

[A]

Well, it's at the. Into a dome. So Englewood. But like Camden, New Jersey, not Philly. That kind of vibe, you know, that's so funny. So I just, like, can't.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Here I go. Here I go. Here I already. Weakness. Men.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Chilling, chilling. Minding my business. No, I cannot wait. TLC is my favorite girl group band of all time. Group group of all time. Really? Of all time. They just mean so much more than Child. Beyonce solo. TLC means more to me than Destiny's Child. But I saw them years ago. The Lovers and Friends festival was like a religious experience. Obviously. Rip Left Eye always. But Salt and Peppa, that's like a shared thing. We have, I feel like. And En Vogue.

[B]

The way I was belting out Salt and Pepper songs, what was I, like, eight, Right?

[A]

You're like Cinderella. Cut it up One time and En Vogue. To see En Vogue perform Free youe Mind. Free your mind. Wow.

[B]

Oh, my God. The outfits are gonna be so good.

[A]

There's three of them. Like, that concert I just went to, I didn't care about every act so passionately. I care a lot. And I do think it's going to be more our age. Not a lot of those old heads.

[B]

Okay. No, I think it'll be right our age.

[A]

Older millennials and, like, young millennials.

[B]

The perfect age to be.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay. Well, I can't wait to go to this. Also, Cardi is on tour. I told you this year I wanted to go to more concerts than I haven't been. Because there's just. I mean, everybody was on tour last year.

[A]

Yeah. There is less want to see Cardi on tour. So this tour, this It's Iconic tour, a lot of them are outdoor Which I understand. Like summer vibes. But I want it inside.

[B]

I only want. I only want to go to stuff inside I like.

[A]

You know what I like outdoor is more rock. Like when we saw Third Eye Blind. I feel like that's what I want to see in an outdoor amphitheater.

[B]

Have a picnic too.

[A]

It's just that kind of vibe. Like I want to see anything. Rap, hip hop, inside, bass, boomin.

[B]

Yeah, I want, I want that for comedy, obviously. And most music.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unless I'm trying to like have a picnic outdoors.

[A]

Yeah. If it's a little bit of a background music vibe or again, like 90s alternative rock. That feels appropriate.

[B]

I'm so excited. Okay. All right, well, let's take our part. We have a lot to talk about today. Oh my God. We can't waste time.

[A]

Just.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Not the one you're thinking. No.

[A]

Like everything is police related today. Everything is. Everything is like crime, even these dogs. Everything is like related to some of police report.

[B]

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. All right, well, we're kicking it off with Afroman. A blast from the past. He won his lawsuit. Filed by the cops who raided his home.

[A]

Yes. So in 2022, in Adams County, Ohio, where all the big crime rings are, the deputies raided Afroman's house for a drug and kidnapping investigation. You know what this feels like to me is just small town cops being like, let's get the because I got high guy.

[B]

So if you guys don't remember him. Because I got high.

[A]

Yeah. Notorious pothead. Yeah. And so no illegal items were found, no charges were filed. And the footage is insane. Like a bunch of armed tough guy cops, like seven of them, acting like Seal Team 6, breaking down his gate, busting down his door. His wife and his children were there, ages 10 and 12. They went through all of his stuff. They scared his family. He wasn't home at the time. And he claims they. Oh, they unhooked his security cameras. And then he claimed they stole $400. That's it. In cash.

[B]

Well, they took. What do they took? Like three grand. And they gave it back. But 400 was missing.

[A]

$4,000. You're right. Sorry. So they found $4,000 in cash. I guess. And then they took 400 of 10% off the top.

[B]

It's fucking embarrassing, people. Also because I got high, guy. I mean, they didn't find any weed.

[A]

They found some weed.

[B]

A little bit, Yeah.

[A]

A little bit of weed. Like. Yes. Nothing. Nothing like a drug ring in his home. And so his response, the most iconic thing is he took the footage of the. All the home security footage. I guess they didn't unhook all the cameras. He took them from his home and made like a whole album, basically, but made these videos. One is called Lemon Pound Cake because there's a lemon pound cake sitting on the counter. And they like eye it. They like check out that cake. Like they're about to take a piece of the cake. And then will you help me repair my door? And they like busted down the door. And the music, the songs are hilarious. I mean, there they sample other songs. And I watched some of the videos last night and they look like fudgeing clowns, like just walking around his house looking for stuff, going through all his stuff, ransacking his home.

[B]

So in the videos also, he's naming the cosplay names and their wives and saying he fudged their wives. It is so funny.

[A]

So these seven clowns, these deputies sue for defamation, claiming humiliation. Obviously, that's the point. Emotional distress and that damage their reputation is literally the point. And then just last week, the verdict of this case, it went to court and it ruled in favor of Aphraman, agreeing that the videos were protected by free speech. And he won his case.

[B]

So it's really shocking because also they ruled this is clearly satire, that this is public information that, like, he's not. What is it? The ultimate definition to libel and slander is the truth. And Aperman's like, well, these are your names and you did come into my house. And it is clear that this is satire. So I can say whatever I want about you.

[A]

Yeah, you bust up in someone's house, like, you can put the videos out there, right? I mean, he's proving that we can. And I just loved the courtroom sketches. So this one went viral. It said, the hardest courtroom sketch of all time. And he's in this red, white and blue suit. We'll put it up on the screen. It looked crazy. Like Afroman in court. He just flexed the whole time, won the case.

[B]

You just don't see it. You don't see the police. You don't see the court system siding with a black man against the cops. And I like, I love the win.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, Ohio. I Love what's going on in Ohio. Dave Chappelle fucking runs the state.

[B]

Booking some shows there, some extra shows there.

[A]

So Dave. Well, Dave Chappelle, he is pretty much like the mayor of Yellow Springs, unofficially. And he says that people come up to him. This isn't his stand up, come up to him and talk to him about, like the town's issues.

[B]

He owns the town.

[A]

Yeah. So congrats to aphroman. And next up is Justin Timberlake's dui. The body cam footage, eight hours in total, is released and it's been cut up and it's on the Internet.

[B]

So Justin Timberlake, this is in relation to his DUI from two summers ago in 2024. The cop pulls him over and you guys, we knew a little bit about it. The cop didn't know who he was. He says, I'm on a world tour. And then all these.

[A]

This is gonna ruin the tour, the

[B]

tour and the world tour. The cops doesn't know who he is. They bring him in, they book him. And it was like a viral story, but it kind of went away. I guess they were going to release the body cam footage. And he's been in court for weeks fighting this because he says this will ruin his reputation. It'll be really bad if this gets out. I mean, it is start to him in the car, getting out of the car, the field sobriety test, him in the jail, in the cell. So I understand him being like this can't get out.

[A]

And the reason why it got out, I'm always so interested in this. And we'll talk about Taylor Frankie Paul video as well, is that news outlets requested it and then they tried to block it. And then I guess they did. They were able to have a block on it, but then it expired or whatever. Regardless, it's just that news out, we're like, hey, we want that and we know we're allowed to have it.

[B]

All of a sudden, though, they were like, we just want to have this,

[A]

like out of nowhere, just it was requested and like by law, I guess it's a public record and they can request it and get it. And again, he tried his damnedest for it not to be out there. And I think this has brought me back as a fan. This has been doing the opposite of what he thought. I'm people, I'm are eating it up. He seems so nice, he's so polite, he's so funny. Like you really are watching it. And there's all these different moments of him trying to explain to the cop who he is. And then he's trying to understand what happened. He's so hammered. He's so drunk. And you expect like a don't you know who I am? Kind of moment from any celebrity.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And it never happens. He picks up the paperwork that has all the info on it, and he goes, white. Like that. It says he's white. And then he goes, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Like, I. I have. I was such a huge fan of him, and then I really pulled back, and a lot of things about him just gave me the ick. And when you really think about Janet Jackson and Brittany and all these things, and I just didn't feel like he was a champion for women. And then some of those cringe videos of him dancing, I was like, he's really lost it. And so I really haven't been a fan for years, and I feel like I'm a fan again.

[B]

I mean, watching this, you assume at any point, when the cop pulls him over, when they take him out through the field sobriety, when he's sitting in the police station, and when they tell him to get in a jail cell and sleep on a bench, at any point, you expect him to be like, don't you know who I am? And get in. Somebody say, he is so drunk. It's cute. It's kind of cute.

[A]

It's the best video he's put out. They're like years.

[B]

They're like, you gotta sleep in this jail cell. He's like, what? But he's so drunk.

[A]

He's like, I know.

[B]

I guess I'm sleeping on this bench when he's slurring.

[A]

Oh, the sobriety. The sobriety test. He goes, these are really hard. And they are hard. Can I circle back to something I meant to bring up a couple weeks ago or last week? Speaking of sobriety test, did you see the video of Emrata walking in the Gucci show in Milan Fashion Week? I was like, this is me trying to prove I'm not drunk. She is walking in this, like, 2010 slutty club dress. And the walk is the most a field sobriety test I've ever seen. People were like, funny.

[B]

The Internet was really divided on this. Some people were like, she made that walk her own. I'm like, she's drunk.

[A]

She literally looks like, I'm not drunk. You're drunk. Like, that's the energy. So I want to jump in and say that I have been arrested for DUI a very long time ago, and I vehemently am opposed to drinking and driving. Like, we're gonna make these jokes, but I just always have to get out of the way. Like, I want to kind of speak on it from personal experience, but, like, I am so, like, don't drink and drive, you guys. You have so many other options. Please don't do it. Anyway, that's my stance on it. But when I saw this clip of the first one of him trying to explain to the cop who he was, and the cop really doesn't know at first, like, truly, like. And I sent this to the group chat and was like, oh, my God. New fear unlocked. And Raina says, don't worry. I'm sure the cops wouldn't know who you are either. As in my fear. As in my fear was that I wouldn't be recognized. I was like, no. Having my DUI footage released is the fear unlocked, Raina.

[B]

Like, I actually knew that wasn't what you meant, but I was being silly. But it really made me laugh when you said, new fear unlocked. I was like. I was like, cops are not going to know who we are either. Millennial white men.

[A]

So the thing.

[B]

Gen Z, white men. Excuse me. The millennials know who we are.

[A]

The cops. Young. He won cop of the Year. Remember that? Last year, that redheaded cop won Cop of the Year. Okay, so I want to speak up where this happened. This happened in Sag harbor in the Hamptons. He's the only person in the jail. So there are, you know, a variety of experiences you can have getting into dui. I was arrested in downtown Atlanta. You're in the. You have a jail experience. You are there with tons of other people. It is not pleasant, it is scary, and it's not the vibe. Small town. This was Sag Harbor.

[B]

There's never. No one's ever been in that jail in the Hamptons.

[A]

And I also got arrested in a small town like that. It's like you're in the principal's office. They let me check my Facebook. They brought me a blanket. I didn't have to spend the night, but I had, like, a great time. Like, it is such a. When you're the only person, they treat you like that. Like, this experience brought back memories of, like, what it's like to get arrested in a town where you're the only criminal of the night.

[B]

You never have a crime in the Hamptons. Also, this is a country saga Harbor. This is middle now. It's a country road. Like it is. There's nobody around. Like, the fact that somebody even caught him Drinking and driving is wild. He was so drunk, and they were probably so excited. Like, we have. We finally get to do something.

[A]

But it's exactly. You're so right. And they're just excited to have you. There's someone up in the station, you know, like, literally, I'm like, he's in the principal's office. Like, Justin Timberlake in a downtown city jail. Like, what would that have even been like? Like, him with all the dozens, hundreds of other people who got arrested that night, it's crazy to see him be just as a solo act and not in. Like, what if he was in downtown Atlanta?

[B]

I think that the vibes would have been different. I think you would have gotten a different body cam video because, like, he is just kind of chilling.

[A]

He's chilling. He's.

[B]

He's. He's not pressed. No one's around to see him like that. Like, I think if, like, it was a room full of people, he would have been insisting, like, do you know who I am? Get my lawyers, get somebody in here, call my agent, get my managers to get me out of here. Like, he's just. He's all good.

[A]

He's. The memes of these were so funny. Like, someone was like, if I was that cop, I would have asked him to perform, like, three songs and let him free, which is so funny. Like, just do mirrors and we'll let you go. Hit us with sexy back and we'll send you on our way. Like, drunk performing.

[B]

But the stakes are so low. I mean, he's gonna beat this charge anyways.

[A]

But do you agree? Like, I. I'm making jokes, but I truly think this is good for his image. Like, he. People have not spoken of him. Like, he's. His popularity has really declined. He didn' out his last tour, the world tour. Like, I think people are seeing, like, this is a good guy. Like, whether you think. No, like, I'm telling you, the way that he treated them and the way he was just so polite, and there was just so many opportunities for him to snap. And, yeah, maybe that. Maybe he's a nice drunk, or maybe

[B]

he's too drunk to just really react to know what's happening. But, I mean, if you were gonna hate on him for something, you would have done it two years ago for the drunk driving. Now, like, we know about this. So, like, the new info is just, like, how sweet and cutie he is when he gets arrested.

[A]

I just think this. This is good for his image. And, you know. You know, Justin Timberlake was, like, crying in bed. About this getting released like, this will. This will ruin me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do whatever it takes. Pay whatever it takes. Like, go full ditty on these people. Like, don't let this happen. I will do anything. And then it came out, and people were like, he's back.

[B]

There are consequences for men anyways, and he should have known that.

[A]

Well, we'll talk about that. Yeah. But before we get into it, we are just going to tell you about our partners. So I am telling you about. No C D. Rayna, did you know someone recently said I have OCD thinking? A friend of ours was like, I think you have a little bit of OCD thinking. I did actually get on a. I get on a loop. I have a little touch of a few things, but, like, I will get, like, obsessive about thoughts. And I'm not trying to appropriate anyone's ocd, but it's just, like, I relate to a lot of these things. Well, I've.

[B]

I've watched you just. You hyper fixate on something that you can't, like, stop.

[A]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. So truly a story that just kept developing. Bombs kept going off last week. Just, this has been nothing. My whole feed is, this is Taylor, Frankie, Paul, the 2023 domestic violence video coming out, and then the cancellation of the Bachelorette. I mean, bombs went off all week last week about this.

[A]

I mean, you guys probably know, but obviously she is the star of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and she was cast as the Bachelorette, which was crazy. Raina. Like, I can't. I remember thinking, like, this is a wild decision. I couldn't even wrap my head around it. I hadn't watched the show yet. So this franchise, which has notoriously been

[B]

squeaky clean Disney show.

[A]

I mean, Disney owns ABC. Like, took the craziest risk. Like, went from zero to 60 with this choice. Like, it hasn't been, like, they've been getting a little edgier over the years. They were always this, like, wholesome type show. And then they chose this person that has a problematic past that was known. So I just want to give that, like, backstory of, like, yeah, it was always a crazy choice. Like, when this happened. I was like, what are you saying? That can't be real.

[B]

She wasn't cast in spite of this. She was cast for this. I mean, she was cast to reignite the Bachelorette. It was an interesting decision because chaos. Reality TV is different than the Bachelor. The Bachelor is supposed to be like, you wanna root for the person to find love and find healthy connections. And I know a lot of people go on there to like, sell sugar bear hair care gummies, but, like, you do wanna root for the person a little bit to like, find love and get behind them. And it is sweet and wholesome.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, and you know what's crazy is that the Bachelorette was on hiatus. They were like, the show's not doing great. Let's hit pause on it. And then they just took such a big swing, they ruined the world tour. Now the show is canceled.

[B]

So I'm gonna give you guys just a brief and take you guys back to a brief synopsis of what has happened. So in 2023, the secret lives of Mormon wives. The show comes out. Season one. The episode one. Season one opens with Taylor, Frankie, Paul and the body cam footage of the police arresting her. She is hammer drunk, she is incoherent. Dakota looks perfectly fine. And what happened as a result of that is production shuts down for 11 months. She goes to jail for the night. She gets put on probation. She is not allowed to be around alcohol indefinitely. She's still on probation to this day. Oh, he does not file a restraining order against her. She doesn't file one against him. They are allowed to film camera's picked back up. Eleven months later, she is pregnant with his child. And for the next couple seasons, she does seem to be like going to therapy.

[A]

We said that.

[B]

A lot of growth and dealing with this. I will say in the meantime, I mean, she was supposed to do an interview with us and Nick Viall and all these other outlets and they canceled on us the morning of because of an incident with Dakota. I mean, this has been well documented that these are pretty bad issues. But no one had ever seen any footage of the actual fight. But everybody knew, including the producers and me. I knew everybody knew that there had been an incident inside the home with furniture being thrown and a child was possibly hit. So everybody knows this. It's in the police report. The cast knows, the producer knows, everybody knows.

[A]

And she said what that night of the arrest or has since come out and said that he locked her in the garage and she was retaliating.

[B]

So she says this also in the body cam footage. She locked me in the garage. She's incoherent. You kind of can't understand her, but she is alluding to. And he is sitting there very calmly, like she was being crazy in the house. There's a child present, whatever. So cameras pick back up. Whatever. Everybody knows about this. This is in the police report. Everyone knows. Season four starts filming, and she has been cast as the Bachelorette. And the whole theme of the season, besides dad talk, is Taylor getting ready to go on the show. And she seems deeply unwell this season. I mean, her home is a mess. There's clothing everywhere. She is hysterical. She can't get up off the floor. She's attacking her castmates. She's screaming at everybody. She's sleeping with Dakota. The last episode of the last show. She sleeps with Dakota the night before she's supposed to leave for the Bachelorette. She will not get on the plane. The next day, her cast members have to break into her house to get her up out of bed. And she leaves for the Bachelorette. But this is like a deeply unwell person who probably shouldn't have even been

[A]

on television at this point, 100%.

[B]

So this happens. Obviously. ABC has this footage.

[A]

Footage of what?

[B]

They have footage of the season.

[A]

Of the season. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Exactly. So she films the Bachelorette in November. The season is going forward. And then Fast forward to February 23rd, 24th. There is an incident between recently, between her and Dakota. They are both filing restraining orders against each other. Bachelorette still full steam. We're releasing this. And then last week, Sunday night, she goes to the Oscars.

[A]

Yeah. And then our episode aired and we were like, what the fuck is going to happen? Totally like, this is crazy. They're really going to. She's in trouble again.

[B]

Monday morning, Secret Live shuts down production. The cast won't film with her. Something happens again with her in Dakota. There's another situation with them. She's still doing press for the Bachelor. She goes on Good Morning America. She is doing Cali Ripa. They're just like, what? You know that something's coming. The video drops on Thursday morning of the actual incident inside the home. And by the afternoon, Bachelor has canceled the season.

[A]

It happened so quick. I mean, the video dropped and it's really tough to watch. I mean, she is hitting Dakota and then she throws these stools. Metal stools. Metal stools, like, violently. And her child is crying, and it's like, oh, my God. I mean, you know, shit goes down in people's homes. I'm not condoning any of it. Don't get it twisted. Violence of any kind. But the kid being present, you're like, oh, man, this is. You can hear your child. I mean, it's tough. And. But again, I just. We want to tread lightly and I'm not making excuses, but this was years ago and we did know this happened. And then we kind of saw her get help in these things. So it just, you know, that's. That's a part of it too. This didn't happen yesterday. And my first thought was, what in the Steven DeMarco is going on here? This video. Dakota's had this for years. Like, it's just so. It felt so much like, Tell me Lies. Like, literally, I have the video that will ruin your life and I'm waiting to drop it. And that's kind of a fan fiction type take. Cause I don't really think that's what happened. But you know, that's a fictional show also. Tell me Lies. But it's like, that was my first thought of, like, this guy has been waiting till days before the Bachelor to release the tape.

[B]

I mean, you and I will get into, like, who we think released the tape and why we think it's Dakota and how did ABC know about this tape? But it's really. It's a hard watch. I mean, you see this person who is in a fit of rage, just blind rage, cannot even see or think straight. She's chucking metal bar stools at this man. And her. When you hear her child cry out, like, it's so hard to hear this. And I do wonder if, like, her ex husband had ever seen these videos before. But I was listening to. I want to credit Nick Val. I listened to his podcast this morning. He had somebody from law enforcement.

[A]

I think it was like, former LA District attorney.

[B]

Okay, a district attorney. That's what I thought. And she was trying to sort of explaining the police report what existed, what didn't exist, and who owned what type of things. So what she was saying was in the initial arrest report, it said that there was a video and Dakota had shown police officers the video.

[A]

Like, you know, he did. Like, even when you're watching on Mormon Wives, you're like, if he's trying to convince the cops that she threw stools, you go, here's the. He didn't say, I'm going to hold this for three years until I want to drop it to ruin her life. He was like, here's the video. Like, the video has always been in the mix.

[B]

Yes. So he Shows police officers the video. So this is. It is on record that a video exists. He recorded her. And that's basically why they let him leave that night. Because it was clear that she was the aggressor from the video.

[A]

Right. Cause you see this big dude and this small woman, and, you know, you would hope that your inclination is to be like, she's not a threat to him. You know, what actually happened here? And so. Right. Like, how did they confirm that she threw this furniture? Hello. Here's the video.

[B]

So what happens the next day is she pleads guilty immediately. There is no trial. So there's no evidence entered into the court. So the police, the D.A. nobody owns this video at this point besides Dakota. So it never went into the possession. It was never entered into evidence because she just pleads guilty right away. And she's put on probation and knows of the video. She knows there's a video. Yeah. So she's not. I mean, there's no reason to say, I didn't do this. But that's important because people were saying, who released this video? How did they get ahold of it? So the only people that could have had this video were the district attorney's office, the police and Dakota. And the police and district attorney's office can't release this because Taylor, Frankie, Paul could sue the state. Also, there's a minor. So these cases are sealed. So the only person who owned this video and the intellectual property rights to this is Dakota. And TMZ releases this video, and they watermark the video on Thursday. And TMZ has been back and forth, and they say, basically, when we watermark a video, it means we have purchased this video from the owner of the video. And that also does not mean Dakota sent the video to somebody else. It means the person who filmed the video sold it to us.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So that's the only way they could have had the video is Dakota. And he has not confirmed or denied it, but.

[A]

Cause like you were saying, we were talking about this yesterday, if he didn't give that to tmz, he would have denied it. He's like, I'm not the villain here.

[B]

And so it sort of begs the question, did ABC know about this and push him to release the video? Because this season is a disaster. How could you watch her shop for love knowing she went right back, got back together with him?

[A]

I know we've been talking about this, and this is really the conclusion that we've both drawn. And, you know, when this first happened, my blame for this happening is ABC you know, you know, we said this on the episode episode last week. Like, you knew who you cast. You knew about this case, you know, like, and you cast her anyway. And we think that probably the Bachelorette season wasn't great. And then you're gonna see the Mormon Wives season and you're like, what the fuck? This is a mess. And this is not what the revival of the Bachelorette should be. And we really think that ABC wanted to cancel this. And, you know, there's all these memes of, like, ABCs losing tens of millions of dollars. A, who cares? And B, they have it to spare. Like, we talk about tens of millions. That's their billions and billions of dollars. Like, you have really. We have no concept of the type of money that these networks have. Disney has. So, yes, I feel for the people who worked on it, but they're getting paid. Their work just won't be shown. And the people that put their men, that put their lives on hold, whatever. But that was my first thought. I was like, something is really stuck sus for this to happen three days before. And like, I really, truly believe ABC was like, we can't air this, and what can we do to get it canceled?

[B]

So either they pushed him or he knows that the production has been paused, that there's a lawsuit coming against him from her for a restraining order. And he released the video to be like, this is what I'm dealing with either way. Like, this is really so crazy and sick. And it begs the question, like, who is at fault here? And you've seen a lot of people in the last week. I mean, everybody has an opinion. And I fascinated by all of them. I'm really, like, consuming a lot of content about this. Everybody has an opinion about, like, when you are cast on these reality shows, they do pretty extensive background checks. They know if you got a parking ticket. So, like, if it's in the police report that there was a video, I'm assuming ABC was like, we're going to

[A]

need to see that video die on that hill. That ABC knew everything, of course. Like, Emmanuel Acho was talking about when he hosted a reunion once. Like, the level of background checks they did on him. Like, that's why I think it was crazy to have cast her.

[B]

I just. I can't believe it. Like, you guys knew about this and I know that this was in the past and she has paid for her sins, I guess. I mean, I'm seeing all kinds of different, like, who's to blame? What side of the fence are you on? And both of them are bad. Her and Dakota are both. This is terrible. What has happened is terrible.

[A]

It's unbelievable.

[B]

But she's on probation. She got sober. She is paying for her sins. Like, I don't think we punish people forever for what they've done, but this is too terrible. This.

[A]

Yeah. To see it. And that's the thing that's. I feel like that's the overwhelming rhetoric is ABC is canceling this because you saw the video and you know, they always knew this was. That was out there. But now that we've seen it and I. We beg to differ. We think ABC canceled this on purpose. I don't think ABC was like, oh, the video's out. Like, we think they were like, put the video out. I really just, just. I don't know. I don't. I don't think anything is by accident with these big companies. And it's just interesting. I mean, their dynamic. You know, if you've locked me in a garage, if you locked me out of my house, I would black out. I would go ballistic. I would hope that my kids cries would bring me back to center. But, like, we don't know the dynamics of those. The relationship. He always comes across calm and dare I say, like, like, don't you think he doesn't ever really react at. Maybe you've seen it more than me, but I. From my experience watching the show is always that he's pretty calm. And you know, people are talking about that dynamic as well. But I don't know, like, she put out a statement quick, which I thought was interesting. Basically, like, he's been terrorizing me for years and he has pushed me to this point.

[B]

So a couple things. There's interview with Macy a couple years ago where she sort of echoes this and she says, I like Dakota. And when I'm socializing with him, I know that's not. I know that behind the scenes he is abusive and a narcissist and a manipulator and a gaslighter. And people are calling this reactive abuse. And if you know about reactive abuse, it is somebody that puts you to the point of your breaking point and then you have a reaction like Taylor, Frankie, Paul. But the real aggressor is Dakota, who angled her and is sober, by the way, this entire time and is really jealous and sleeps with her friends and does terrible things to her.

[A]

Of course. Yes. And. And which is abusive to their child too. You know, at the top of all this are the children that are caught in the crossfire. I can't stress it Enough. They're. Everybody, like, is at fault when it comes to, like, kids. This is not them in the home fighting it out. You know, like, you should know better and you should know that this relationship is harmful to a child. Obviously. Stop.

[B]

That's where you can hold fault with her. It's just being like. But you're continuing to immerse your children in this environment. You had a child with this person.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

Like, at some point, you do have to grow up and take responsibility for yourself. And I understand reactive abuse. I was telling you before we started this, and you know about this, but my boyfriend when I was 21, I mean, he just needled me and needled me and cheated on me and gaslit me, and he was so terrible. And I would be in these fits of rage in front of people, and he would. Everybody loved him. Everybody thought he was so great, but he felt. He pushed me to that. I would have, like, out of body experiences. I'd be so angry. And when I. This was a year when I lived in Pittsburgh in between college and moving to New York. But I really had to move to New York to get away from him. Like, I always would have moved to New York, but, like, this was the immediate catalyst in the end there. I mean, it was so bad. I did things that were so out of character for me because I was being so emotionally abused by this person. And so I understood. Understand the explosion. I do. But you do have to, like, put your big girl pants on, go to

[A]

therapy, get your children, put your kid first, stop drinking, whatever you need to do. So, I mean, where it stands now, I mean, is just at a stalemate. I saw something that said Hulu is going to air the season. And that's probably fake news, right? Yeah, Hulu's not airing this. I mean, also, it's all the same company, but I just. I will never get over Disney casting this problematic woman. And, you know, people are talking a lot about if this was a black woman, if this was a man. I mean, if it was a woman of color that had that problematic past and had children with multiple fathers, like, she wouldn't have been cast as the Bachelorette. And, you know, I think there's a double standard there when we talk about men. I mean, I like the TikTok. That's like, if we're canceling the Bachelorette over this, when are we canceling the NFL season? You know, like, all the. The men that are real abusers that get to play football and make millions of dollars and be on tv. I mean, the country is run by pedophiles. Like, save the outrage. You know, we can say, yes, Taylor, Frankie, Paul needs help and people were at risk and her children are at risk and she needs help and the season should be canceled. But my outrage is for so many other terrible men and like, the things that are happening in this country. So I was telling you, I don't know that I've even seen her being so vilified like she is. But then people are like, I think a lot of us are in this camp of like, she's getting more punishment than the people in the Epstein Files. You know, like, it's so ass backwards.

[B]

I mean, men in. Yeah, men in the NFL. To your point, everybody who runs the government. I mean, you even look at Colton from the Bachelor who was stalking his ex. He did not physically attack her, but stalking her. It was well documented. They put him on Traitors.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Like, she's getting what I think she deserves, which is to not have her season air. And unfortunately, all of this work that you did is not going to air. But, like, the other core issue is, like, we continue to put these people on television for entertainment and, like, at which point do we stop this? And, like, when does Messi become dangerous? And I'm part of this too. This is one of my favorite shows of all time. I mean, they won an Emmy. It's. I love Secret Lives. And it does feel really different hearing about what happened and visually seeing what happened. But, like, the cast knew that she was unwell. You have all these cast members releasing statements. And I love Miranda, I do. And I love Layla, but they released statements about this and I'm just like, but you.

[A]

But you knew.

[B]

But you guys knew this.

[A]

I know you filmed with her and

[B]

you monetized off of her back. And I think you see this forever on reality. You see Jax, Taylor being put on television on Vanderpump Rules and clearly had a drug problem and was clearly emotionally abusive to his wife, if not worse. And we kept propping these people up and putting them on tv. He's having violent fits of rage and they kept him on the Valley for three seasons.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And that's actually like a dangerous person. I don't think anybody's that scared of Taylor, Frankie, Paul, physically, she's my height, but you know who is responsible and when? I mean, I know the producers knew about these videos three years ago. It's unbelievable.

[A]

So, I mean, this is a. I don't know, is it even a developing story? Yes. I mean, more stuff will come out. But for now, I'm very curious. What's going on behind the scenes at the Bachelorette. And then is Mormon Wives done as a show? Right? I mean, this, it has to be, right? They might not.

[B]

I mean, you know, Taylor, Frankie Paul was the breakout star of all this, but a lot of these women have gone on to do really interesting things and obviously been on Dance with the Stars and written books, and Jesse has a really successful hair business. And I would watch a show about all these women. I like these women. I enjoy it. Taylor, of course I enjoy her on the show, but, like, I still feel like I'm watching a person who's really disturbed.

[A]

No, no, no. You're so right. Like, I'm about halfway through the season, and it's just. I texted you. I was like, this is the scene of her calling Dakota because he slept with somebody. And be like, did you finish? Did you like it? She's on the floor of the closet crying. I'm like, this is, I shouldn't be seeing this. I do not like this. This is person who is unwell. This is too private. And you were like, oh, it gets so much worse. And I'm like, I don't know.

[B]

He sleeps with a friend of hers and also the person he previously cheated on her with. She is screaming, posting tiktoks, calling the other women, screaming at them, going crazy, and then sleeps with them that night.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Well, anyways, to put a, put a period on this, I mean, it is just so sad for everybody involved, but mostly the children. And it's just, it's so awful. So I don't know. I, I, I can't see her coming back to the show.

[A]

Yeah, she needs to get help. Yeah. Okay, well, let's just go through a few more Mormon wives headlines. The hits just kept coming. I mean, it felt like nonstop.

[B]

So the day or the day after the video comes out. By the way, the video, Dakota releases this video on their child's birthday, on ever's birthday.

[A]

Oh, geez.

[B]

So that was Thursday. Right. And I forget if it was Thursday or Friday. So Jesse and Jordan, I mean, this is a will. They, won't they break up for years at this point. So Jordan files for divorce the same day the video drops cops, which is crazy.

[A]

Yeah. And they're saying that she was going to. And there was some stuff happening behind the scenes, and he wanted to beat her to it. But then he has since filed a restraining order.

[B]

For what? For what?

[A]

My height, scared of Jesse. It doesn't even, it doesn't matter. She's not violent. What is happening? What is the restraining order about?

[B]

So I. I wish I had, like, a legal background because I wonder if it means that he gets to stay in the house.

[A]

Is it just like, for optics? No, no.

[B]

I mean, I really wonder if it means. So they fight. They're going to get divorced, obviously, if you file a restraining order. I wonder if the co owner of the home has to stay out of the home. I wonder if he's just like. But I don't think.

[A]

I don't think you'd get that granted. Oh. Because this has not been granted. Sorry. He just filed it. Okay. Right. Anybody can file a restraining order, but you don't. It doesn't always go through. Like, I want to file it against you. And someone would be like, you can't do that. Stupid. She's annoying me. Everybody likes me. No, like, in general, you can't just be like, they're annoying me.

[B]

Like, yeah, you have to prove some kind of harm. But I am wondering if the angling is just so that he could stay in the house because she has all this money and he does not.

[A]

Okay. And then Michaela and Jace are splitting up after eight years of marriage.

[B]

They have all kinds of intimacy issues. She has very generously put on camera and talked about her sexual abuse experiences and their lack of intimacy. And I mean, that guy can't even, like, look up from the floor. I mean, who would have. I mean, I wouldn't have sex with him.

[A]

I think they gave it their best shot. She went to therapy. She tried all these things. Like, I really think they gave it their best in eight years and they couldn't work it out.

[B]

I think so, too. I really like her.

[A]

I root for her.

[B]

I think that she's been through really a lot. And then I saw a video this morning. She said that she's moving to. To California.

[A]

Oh. So I like them here during the season.

[B]

I do, too. So I don't know if that means he's moving with her. Feel like sometimes on Secret Lives and all these women on Mom Talk, they just. I wish they would just talk to the camera more instead of just like, dancing to songs and information. I wish they would just tell you more information.

[A]

Like, Randy, you get all the information you need from those dancing videos. Feel like I'm moving to California. Jason, I. After eight years, we're calling it quits.

[B]

Five ways to know that you married a narcissist.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[B]

Get ready with me to get divorced.

[A]

Come with me to My court. Come with me to my court proceedings. Come with me to get custody,

[B]

Jordan, so you can get ready. Get ready with me to file a restraining order against a person that's five feet tall.

[A]

Jesse's like, let's get your extensions ready for the custody battle. She's like, taylor, let's get your extensions ready to throw these stools.

[B]

She's like, so what look are you going for? The day that the Bachelor cancels you.

[A]

There are some really fucked up videos about throwing stools.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, I'm like, should I. People are sending them to me and I'm like, should I laugh at these? Like, I don't know. What do you think I was gonna say? Should I make one? One?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No.

[B]

I was like, no, no, no.

[A]

My stools are too big. They're too nice.

[B]

They are too nice.

[A]

Those are those, like, cheap IKEA stools.

[B]

Those are. They'll do some damage.

[A]

If I tried to throw my stools at Shashank, I couldn't lift those. They're just not.

[B]

They're big, you guys.

[A]

They have a back. I know.

[B]

It's too. It's too heavy.

[A]

You have the same ones. You just have counter height.

[B]

Yeah, there's.

[A]

We'll link them. They're amazing.

[B]

They're great.

[A]

I send that link to a lot of people. I'm gonna put on my shop. Okay. And then they're talking about a spin off with Jen Affleck.

[B]

Is that true?

[A]

I don't know. We'll talk about. I don't know. I don't care. Jen's fine. But true.

[B]

I just don't care.

[A]

I'm not excited.

[B]

No. I mean, Jesse at this point is really the only one that I would watch a whole show about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But. Yeah, they're saying there's an O.C. spin off. Are there O.C. mormons?

[A]

What? Oh, it's gonna be a different city.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Secret lives of O.C. mormon wives.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, God. It's gonna be a whole franchise. Secret Lives of Atlanta Mormon Wives.

[B]

The spinoff that I want is Miranda and Chase. I am so deep in their videos. Chase makes a video every day about her hating him and how he is still in love with her. It is so funny. It's like your dad, my dad, my mom.

[A]

So we glossed over this the other week, but basically, when I found out when I was watching at the beginning of the year, when I was accomplishing my New Year's resolution of watching Mormon Wives, I was, like, trying to figure out people's political affiliations and people Were like, chasing is really liberal. He's like the least maga. He's like anti maga. And so I made this whole video of telling Shashank, like, you're. You're never going to guess who's like, you know, big news coming out of Mormon wives years later that Chase is like, not MAGA or whatever. And I posted it and Chase responded to it in my dms and because in the video, Shashank wasn't like, fully on board, and he said something like, I haven't quite won him over yet about Shashank. And I was like, neither have I. Like, it was a funny little disappointment discourse. Like, he was like, I haven't won your husband over yet. And I'm like, nobody has.

[B]

It's just me and Ashley.

[A]

But yeah, I. I just love him. And this season, I mean, I was telling you, I'm like, these guys are just grossing me out. They went on one boys trip and they come back boys. Like, they hung out with Dakota for one weekend and they come back like, Macy's husband, he's giving me the ick. Like, he seems like he just. That was his first boys trip. And he's like, oh, I can kind of act like this. Like, I am repulsed by these men.

[B]

I tell you what, they better not air that fucking episode of. Of Vanderpump Villa either.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You have all this information about how terrible Jordan is and now Dakota. They're gonna air that crazy.

[A]

I still stand for Zach. How did this happen?

[B]

No, how did this?

[A]

Never hated someone as much as Zach. Season one, I don't know if you

[B]

remember this season one. Also, Whitney's husband, they had like, some pretty serious issues. He was on, like, Grindr, meeting up with men.

[A]

No, he's had a lot of. He's had a lot of abuse, too.

[B]

Well, I'm just saying, there was cheating allegations. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Sorry. I know, but.

[B]

But now he's like, Whitney's husband is like the most supportive husband. He's a little magician. Oh, he's a magician now? He said that's his outlet. He's training Zach on how to also be a stay at home dad. Cause Zach's like, this is tough, man. I have three kids at home. And Whitney's husband's like, you gotta find an outlet, man. Like, for example, I'm doing magic.

[A]

Wasn't Zach supposed to be a lawyer? He just gave it up.

[B]

Either a doctor or a lawyer.

[A]

But I like how Zach was like, I went on this trip and I just am so happy that this is My life, like, here with you and our family, and I just. Okay.

[B]

It's so weird watching Jordan really try to push Mason and Chase and Dakota to sleep with different. He's like, who are you gonna sleep with? I know you guys are to sleep with somebody, but it's this.

[A]

I don't think I've gotten there yet. Have I gotten there yet? I don't know if I've gotten there. Yeah, it's like the first episode. Okay. Oh, yeah.

[B]

He's just talking about them, like, hooking up with girls. He's trying to push Mason, who's Chase's brother, to, like, cheat on Leila, essentially. I mean, he's so creepy.

[A]

Ew. Okay, well, that was the Mormon wise breakdown. We could have gone for three more hours, but we're just gonna get into some headlines and then we will send you guys on your way.

[B]

All right, so first up, Target has released merch for the Devil Wears Prada. And it is unimaginable. If you told me it was heinous, I still couldn't have imagined something this big. Big clip art of shoes and sayings and eight different fonts on one shirt. I didn't know you could get that many fonts on one shirt.

[A]

Like, what in the 2010 shopping is my cardio graphic tee from Walmart? Is this like, I can't believe what I'm seeing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

They just whipped these up in canva. Like, these are shirts we Wore in the 2010s. Like, I have a shirt that says, but first coffee and I wear it to bed.

[B]

I mean, that's better than some of this. I mean, there are so many fonts. One says, I'm in my Miranda era. The devil wash Prado. Four different fonts. There's a giant lipstick and a giant blush brush. And it's like clip art and stars and sparkles. Who is at Target buying this?

[A]

Is this actually licensed? This cannot be official merch. So you have to. Target would never take that risk.

[B]

I mean, it does say on the actual merch, Devil Wears Prada. Like, you can't use that name.

[A]

It's the opposite of fashion. I also like Target. Target used to partner with Missoni. Target partnered with Proenza Schooler. What is going on at Target?

[B]

This should be at Walmart. It's crazy.

[A]

And that's an insult to Walmart.

[B]

Even Walmart might not sell this dog, literally. You're talking about a movie with the greatest fashion. One of the greatest fashion movies in history. It is a montage of amazing fashion at all times. How did they co sign this?

[A]

How did Truly. It's the fashion movie.

[B]

The flesh would melt off of Mirana Priestley's face if she saw these two T shirts.

[A]

I can't believe what I'm looking at. So again, make sure to catch this video on YouTube or Spotify. We'll put some of the worst offenders. But the Devil Wears Mossimo, I guess. Oh, this is so. I just cannot go.

[B]

It's the logo from the Devil Wears Prada. I mean, they had to have licensed this.

[A]

I feel like it's a stunt. I feel like it's for this purpose to talk about it. This cannot be what the movie studio allowed.

[B]

Okay, well, we talked about this last week and here's no surprise. It has continued chaos at tsa. I mean, we thought it was bad last week and there has been. That was nothing compared to what is happening this week. I mean, specifically in Atlanta and Houston, New Orleans, airports in the south. Four hour wait lines at tsa and

[A]

people are getting there four hours early and they're missing their flight. I mean, sometimes it's like in some of these airports, it's like the limit does not exist. You've got to go 48 hours before. And TSA has not been paid for about a month maybe. I don't want to misquote. And then I just can't even believe. I'm glad I'm still in a world where I. This is not normal to me. Like, I feel so much rage about this. But Donald Trump has said that has sent in ice to 14 airports and probably more as this airs, to just stand around. So ICE agents are there unmasked, thank God, and they're just standing around. They don't have a job like this. This incompetent administration, which I do think their goal, and I think it's in Project 2025, is to privatize TSA, which is very scary, that ICE agents would be in charge of TSA and it would be like a scary time for all of us. I do think that's the plan, but they didn't execute this at all. So these ICE agents are in the airport and getting paid. Getting paid, what, 150k a year to stand around while TSA agents are working their asses off, understaffed and not being paid. I Raina, I can't wrap my head around it. They're just standing there, paid, rubbing it in these TSA agents faces. It's so dark, it's so gross. Like, I can't believe this is happening. Like you can't pay these people, but you can pay these people to not do. Like, I.

[B]

It's like, to say it. We can pay to fund a war.

[A]

We can pay to. For all of this, you know, and like, the Democrats, all they want to do is, like, have some reasonable restrictions on ice, and that's why all of this is happening. And so I just can't believe what we're seeing. I don't know how long it's going to go. And, you know, Delta has restricted the perks for Congress members, which I love. Like, once people really start to experience this hardship themselves. Like that video last week of Nancy Mace cutting the line in the air airport. How fucking dare you? So I guess people in Congress used to be able to cut the line like that. And Delta is like, no more.

[B]

Yeah, it just. It feels really heavy and dark. And I try to not lean into this stuff. And I try to just, like, be excited about my tour and what you and I have going on. And I have to be at the airport a lot this week. I've been in Texas a lot this week. I'm going to Dallas Austin. Houston. I have to go to Houston. I genuinely don't know how I'm gonna get out of Houston. Like, I have considered, and I never would because of this, but I. I considered moving the show. Like, I feel so bad that our girls, like, buy tickets and travel for this stuff and that. Like, people can't go to things they've paid for. They can't go to weddings, they can't go to funerals. Like, these planes are empty. And then once. I mean, it's just. It scares me to fly. Like, I don't want to be so alarmist, but, like, I'm afraid to be at airports and on planes.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, this pilot and co pilot just died at LaGuardia. They. Because of a mistake from an air traffic controller and has always been one of the most stressful jobs. And they've cut back on them, too. And they're underpaid and underfunded. And so this happened last year, the beginning of the year. I was, like, really terrified to fly because of this. And, you know, especially coming from, like, my dad is a pilot, my uncle's a pilot, my other uncle's a pilot. Like, I've always known my whole life of, like, how important it is to get these things right. Obviously, people's lives are on the line. And so I just think about the air traffic controllers all the time, and I think about this, these TSA agents all the time. Like, they dedicate their, like, emotional. They dedicate their lives to our safety, and they are being so abused.

[B]

Like, I have been at the airport a lot recently. I've been, like, thanking every TSA agent, every security guard, and I can't believe they have to do this and deal with this, and everyone's pissed, and everyone's in a bad mood, and it just. It looks like it's their fault. It's so not their fault.

[A]

Everyone knows it's not. Yeah.

[B]

Like, everyone is so mad by the time they get to security and they're missing their flights, and everyone's screaming at all these agents, and. And I just. You know, I want to encourage you, if you're at an airport, to just thank these people, because it's so unimaginable. And I don't. I just. I can't. I feel really sick about having to travel this week, and I would never take a show away from our audience because of this, but, my God, it's, like, really dark.

[A]

And then the fucking Gestapo was running around the airport in the food court with nothing to fucking do, making 100,000, $150,000 a year. I feel sick about it. But, yes, you guys just be safe and try to be as kind and patient as you can. We know you guys are wonderful and lovely, and we know that you already are, but just be safe out there and plan ahead, and hopefully this will come to an end. And Raina mentioned the war, and I know some of you guys want us to speak on this. I feel like I'm just a little bit out of my league. I mean, my true belief is Donald Trump just has always wanted to just ruin the country. Any distraction, away from all the other things, and just really tear everything down. It's really bleak, and no one wanted this, and it's so gross. And I just. I cannot believe that, like, everyone has not turned on him and can't fucking get him out of office. Like, I feel so angry at all of these Republicans in Congress. Like, if we could all just band together, we could fucking fix this, and they won't, and they know it's wrong, and it's just sick. So, you know, Punch the Monkey may have a girlfriend.

[B]

I mean, I am just. Thank God. Thank God for Punch. Seriously, watching him, watching him with friends and a girlfriend, it's the joy I need in my life. I am still just as hung up on Punch as I was weeks ago.

[A]

So Kate Steinberg and Chad, her husband, we've had him on the show, and she's an influencer and she's so wonderful. They went to Japan to see Punch. They love Japan. They wanted to go anyway, but they went and saw Punch on the way in and on the way out. They were in Japan for, like, two weeks, and they went and saw Punch right when they got there. They're the first people in line at the zoo. And then they were like, let's go see him again before we leave. And they were able to see him both times. And when they posted when they were leaving, I think that might have been at the beginning of this new relationship. So it's not confirmed. The romance rumors are not yet confirmed, but it appears that Punch is snuggling up with a lady.

[B]

Has found love.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And also just has found love in the other monkeys. And he has, like, little friends he's playing with. And I just. I'm so happy. He's, like, getting happier.

[A]

Have you seen people say, like, they feel bad for the stuff to animal? Like, the stuffed animals just, like, left behind.

[B]

Okay, can I ask you a question? Do you think that they swap the stuffed animal with new animals?

[A]

Like, it gets too dirty?

[B]

So dirty.

[A]

I wonder. Yeah. The original one, if that's the case, should be in a museum. I mean, it should be on eBay for $8 million. You know, we could crowdfund it. We could get it. Stop. Okay. And speaking of animals, this is just my absolute favorite story right now. So we wanted to end with this. This pack of stolen dogs for the meat trade in China.

[B]

Seven dogs.

[A]

Seven dogs from different owners. So they're all from the same community, I think were taken from their homes, I guess. I don't know all of. No one knows all of the actual, like, details and logistics, but they escaped. They traveled together in a pack 10 miles back. They've all been reunited with their owners. A corgi led the charge. Reena. Like, I feel like this isn't real. Like, if I want it to be real so bad, I feel like this is Disney testing something. Like, I feel like this. How can this be real?

[B]

How can this be more than a mile? Like, oh.

[A]

I mean, you hear crazy stories about dogs going back to their owners and traveling this long, but 10 miles is crazy. My heart. My heart can't handle this story that's, like, here, like.

[B]

Like to, like, East Hollywood.

[A]

And they just found their way back, and they all banded together, and at one point, I think there was a German shepherd that got injured, and they all rallied around him, and they had drone footage and people. This is on the highway. So people were seeing this. And people tried to help guide them, but they were like, no, we got this. Like, they found their way back. And there's definitely some fanfiction on this one. Like, people were like, here's how they escape from the cages. And like, no one knows. No one has a skate video. Like, like no one has video of them getting out of the truck or whatever the. But they did get out and these dogs were taken from their owners and they've been reunited with their owners. Like real life, homeward bound. Like, this is the real SEAL Team 6. You know, these dogs really did that. Like, I can't.

[B]

They knew we needed it.

[A]

I can't believe it. Like, stories about dogs like finding their way back home or saving their owners lives and stuff. My heart literally cannot handle it. And I really. There's all this footage. Yes, this is real. But part of me is just like, how could this happen? This is like too heartwarming. Like too pure. Like too special and needs to be a movie. Life imitates art. Like, this really is. Feels like something out of a Disney movie.

[B]

They're saying, like, what are they going to replace the Bachelor with?

[A]

Maybe this. Can I tell you what's going to

[B]

go in that time slot?

[A]

Can I tell you? The corgi leading the charge is. Is so you.

[B]

Okay. I would watch. I would watch a Corey walk for 10 miles. The way that like, we would watch a couple fight for like 18 blocks.

[A]

Like it's so you. Like, it's the shortest. Like most squat. Like, there's German shepherds and labs and golden retrievers and the corgis. Like, follow me, y'. All just like, can you believe?

[B]

I mean, they're like, watch me. They're a herding breed.

[A]

So I was thinking about this.

[B]

If you were gonna watch a dog, a specific dog walk for is court.

[A]

I want to be behind a cor. I love to watch him walk away. I hate to see him leave, but love to watch him walk away. I was thinking Dewey would lead this pack 100%.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Aul would be in the back. Like, I'm so scared.

[B]

Just a collie looking dog. Aul is not trying to. He's not trying to ruffle anybody's feathers. He goes along with the group.

[A]

And he was just so. He just had so much hate in his heart. Like he really. He was. He was such a leader. Like, he was so territorial.

[B]

Like, he.

[A]

He was just, you know, so protective of me. Like Dewey getting back to me 10 miles, 20 miles, 50 miles across the country. He would have found his way back to me. I mean, that dog. So I just. I love this so much. I just want to cry about it. So that was just the really sweeping the Internet and, like, the good, heartwarming story we need with all this darkness in the world.

[B]

I know. Well, if you guys are stuck in Houston, you could come see me on Sunday.

[A]

You should. You should bark at the airport. Free comedy show. Free comedy show. Handout, flyers.

[B]

Pay my opener to go to the airport. What's he doing? Is he doing?

[A]

You need to pay him to go bark at the airport.

[B]

Handout, flyers.

[A]

Comedy show. Comedy show. Tonight I'm gonna come to a comedy show.

[B]

So much to be there. He should have to go to the airport.

[A]

This is, I mean, not to, you know, capitalize on a tragedy, but that would be funny. It would be a funny stunt for you to go to the people waiting in six hour lines. You could probably add a second show. I mean, and give people discount. How long do you wait in line? You get a discount.

[B]

You get a one minute discount. Well, I gotta do like a one penny discount.

[A]

$5 off for every hour.

[B]

I like that idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, you know, there's tickets available and I would love to have you guys there and we can talk on the tsa. I won't even do my material.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

Do you think that I can do, like, Donald Trump material in Texas? Do you think it's gonna go over?

[A]

Yeah, we've always felt like that. Like, oh, Raina, I think I went the hardest on. I can't remember exactly what I said. I went really hard on Trump in Dallas one year. Like, they went crazy. Like, they are the people. I feel like that appreciate it the most. I think the people that come to our shows are liberal people in a, like, blue people in a red state.

[B]

Yeah. I've been doing this joke on stage. Like, there's no Republicans in this room, obviously. So, yeah, I like it.

[A]

I have that one joke and I was always wondering how it was going to go. Like, when I say I Florida, I kind of turn to the back of the stage. Like, I don't know how people are going to react. Like, you know my, like, Republican friends joke, you know, because it hits everywhere and I say it like, hot under my breath. But I'm like, in Florida, you never know. You never know. No, but well, yeah, that lady walked out, middle finger in the air.

[B]

Yeah, but every time you do that joke about her walking out, it makes me laugh.

[A]

The whole audience is a blessing. Maybe someone will walk out.

[B]

Oh, God, I hope so.

[A]

Okay, well that's your snack you guys. Girls gotta eat.com we cannot wait to see you at our show here in LA on May 7th for the Netflix is a joke festival girls gotta eat.com to get those tickets. We are Girls Gotta Eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and TikTok. Raina is Raina Greenberg and raina greenberg.com for her tickets or just catch her at the Houston airport if you guys are waiting in line and you can watch full video on Spotify and YouTube. Subscribe Share this episode with a friend. Leave a comment or review and we will see you Monday.

[B]

Have a great weekend guys.

[A]

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