The Snack: Turkey Trot Prank, Mormon Wives, and New Holiday Movies

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat: The Snack – "Turkey Trot Prank, Mormon Wives, and New Holiday Movies"

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg
Podcast: Girls Gotta Eat (Dear Media)

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Overview

This lighter, pop-culture–driven "Snack" episode dives into the viral Thanksgiving turkey trot prank, reality TV and influencer drama (with particular focus on The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and the “Fruity Pebbles” controversy), new and buzzworthy holiday movies, White House Christmas shade, notable pop culture headlines, and a spirited debate about pranks vs. turkey trots in families. True to their signature tone, Ashley and Rayna blend sharp humor, honest opinions, and slightly unhinged storytelling throughout.

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Episode Highlights & Key Discussion Points

1. Upcoming Girls Gotta Eat Holiday Show

[00:15–01:32]

• The 8th annual NYC holiday show is coming up, featuring big performances, prizes, gift bags, and loads of audience participation.
• Dress code: Holiday themes—sparkles, reds, greens, sexy Santa, or Grinch.
  Quote (Ashley, 00:32):
  "No one else does a show like this. The way they open, the way they end, everything that happens in the middle..."

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2. Thanksgiving Parade Recap & Pop Culture Pairings

[02:58–08:46]

• The hosts hilariously break down oddball Thanksgiving Parade performances: Busta Rhymes with the Ninja Turtles, Lil Jon on the Toys R Us float, and Shaggy with a turkey.

• Millennials’ nostalgia was apparently catered to, but a minor Twitter storm accused Busta Rhymes of lip-syncing—leading to a discussion about the impossibility of live singing on parade floats.
  Quote (Ashley, 05:00):
  "Fun fact, we all have to lip sync on this parade because the floats don’t have the capacity to handle the sound requirements for a live performance. Hope y’all enjoyed it anyway."
  —Ashley quoting John Legend

• Rayna pokes fun at the “uproar” over Shaggy performing kid-inappropriate songs:
  "Why is Shaggy getting called out? Little Jon and Busta Rhymes break your neck in front of a bunch of little kids. It’s all questionable decision making and hilarious." (Rayna, 06:19)

• Ashley calls out the hypocrisy:
  "That's what we grew up on. So just literally grow up, everybody. Like, I was 10 singing Ain’t Too Proud to Beg by TLC..." (Ashley, 06:42)

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3. Turkey Trot Prank: Pop Culture Viral Moment

[08:51–24:50]

The Prank:

• A viral family prank involving “Libby,” the fiancé of one family member, who is tricked into believing the whole family does a 10k “turkey trot” on Thanksgiving—complete with embarrassing special outfit.
• Libby seems genuinely upset when the prank is revealed.
• Internet response: Heated and widespread, with debates over whether the prank is harmless or “abusive.”

The Debate:

• Rayna: Thinks the prank is overblown and calls out internet exaggeration (e.g., fake stories about Libby training for months or buying $200 shoes).
• Ashley: Sees both sides; dislikes family hazing and the possibility of weeks-long deception, but says the full context is missing.
• Consensus: Whether this was lighthearted or mean hinges on the family’s dynamics and prior relationship with Libby.

Notable Quotes:

• "Do you really want to marry into a family that's going to humiliate you? ...I don't think it's that big of a deal." —Rayna, [10:52, 10:56]
• "If my fiancé and his entire family are in the group chat about Ashley on Thanksgiving Day, I better be getting celebrated, not embarrassed." —Ashley, [24:42]
• "It’s giving: Is the fiancé the kind of guy that’s gonna smash cake in her face at the wedding?" —Ashley, [19:25]

Turkey Trot vs. Prank Family

• Ashley and Rayna both prefer a “turkey trot family” over a “prank family”—but with caveats (limit to 5k, not 10k; open communication).
• Discuss family cultures, boundaries, and the childhood shame of being forced into group activities.

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4. White House Holiday Decorations & Trump Era Shade

[25:40–29:22]

• The hosts mock Melania Trump’s infamous “Who gives a f*ck about Christmas stuff and decorations?” recording.
• Not impressed by the current holiday décor: "It all looked pretty mid." (Ashley, 26:31)
• Laugh at Trump’s request for a LEGO portrait of himself and the accidental toddler vibes.

Quote (Ashley, 27:16):
"I think it’s exactly what a toddler asks for... You know Trump was like, I want a LEGO portrait—this man-child."

• Briefly riff on Trump’s confusing MRI saga (28:27–29:22).

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5. Holiday Movie Preview

[33:20–38:35]

• Ashley runs through this year’s most anticipated/watched holiday movies, keeping up her “expert” annual tradition:
  • A Merry Little Xmas (Netflix): Starring Alicia Silverstone, Oliver Hudson, Melissa Joan Hart, Jameela Jamil.
  • A Very Jonas Christmas (Hulu): Starring the Jonas Brothers, Will Ferrell.
  • Champagne Problems (Netflix): Minka Kelly in a romantic French escapade.
  • Jingle Bell Heist (Netflix): London department store caper, possibly with queer leads.
  • Joy to the World (Hulu): Chad Michael Murray and Ayesha Curry.
  • Oh, What Fun (Prime): Michelle Pfeiffer plays an underappreciated mom on a solo adventure.
  • Christmas Every Day (Lifetime): Brandy and her real-life daughter.
• Raina plans to binge all, squeeze in the Taylor Swift doc and Tom Segura’s new comedy special.

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6. What They’re Watching (Shows of the Week)

[38:51–43:48]

• All Her Fault (Peacock): Gripping missing-child thriller with Sarah Snook and Jake Lacy.
  • Ashley: "Loved it so much. One of the best shows I’ve seen in a long time." (39:10)
• The Beast In Me (Apple TV): Psychological thriller starring Claire Danes and Matthew Rhys.
  • "It is so dark. It is so twisted. …I had trouble sleeping." (Ashley, 40:22)
• Southern Charm: Raina is still on board, following cast members’ Instagram beef (notably Sally vs. Taylor Ann).
  • "I like the show. It’s not that deep." (Raina, 43:22)
• Discussion about who to “root for” when most cast members are “dusty men.”

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7. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives & the Fruity Pebbles Bombshell

[43:48–52:15]

Drama Recap:

• Ongoing reality TV drama revolving around influencers, girl-on-girl feuding, swinging scandals, and the mysterious “Fruity Pebbles” sex act.

• Raina, in a rapid-fire summary, explains that on season 1 of Mormon Wives, Demi hinted at “Fruity Pebbles”—which, after a season’s worth of tension and threats, is finally revealed to mean… she pee’d in her husband’s mouth and he said it tasted like Fruity Pebbles (Jesse “spills” as revenge after Demi spread cheating rumors).

• Demi admits to the consensual act after Jesse’s exposure—leading to community outrage, branding issues, and yet more Instagram drama. Quote (Raina, 48:44):
  "Demi peed in her husband’s mouth, and he said it tasted like Fruity Pebbles."

• Ashley and Rayna discuss kink-shaming, internet oversharing, and reality TV influencers’ compulsion to turn personal quirks into branded content.

Quote (Ashley, 49:05):
"If you have to pee on me, we should be in a shower."

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8. Pop Culture Headlines

[56:17–65:00]

• Luigi Mangioni Pretrial: Murder trial continues, but all anyone can talk about is Luigi’s new (increasingly hot?) suit photos. Hilarity ensues over their thirst posts.
• Diddy Docuseries: Produced by 50 Cent, who’s had a beef with Diddy for years. Features never-before-seen footage. Diddy calls it illegal, 50 Cent claims it’s a public service.
  • "It’s a level of petty I aspire to." (Raina, 59:37)
• Mormon Wives cast members: Whitney Levitt now starring as Roxie Hart in Broadway's Chicago. Her redemption arc includes a successful stint on Dancing With The Stars.
  • "This was the most image turnaround I’ve ever seen. She’s the most hated on Mormon Wives and the person people root for most on DWTS." (Raina, 60:43)
• Alix Earle & Braxton Berrios: Speculation about a breakup due to his absence at DWTS finale; hosts compare relationship expectations (Travis Kelce/Taylor Swift vs. mere mortals).
• Oxford’s Word of the Year is “rage-based”:
  "If you’re angry about it, that just proves the point." (Ashley, 63:12)
• And, for Ashley, the most important headline:
  Belgian Sheepdog “Soleil” wins Best in Show at the 2025 National Dog Show.
  "Soleil is out here—women’s empowerment. Azul’s new celeb crush." (Ashley, 63:58)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Grow up. These kids aren’t thinking about it." (Ashley, 07:21)
• "If this got done to me…and like, wasting my time just so they could do this, like, I would have a feeling about it." (Ashley, 19:56)
• "There are mean fucking families out there—and then there are families who love to joke." (Ashley, 21:33)
• "Look, two people could do the exact same thing to me, and I’d have a totally different reaction depending on my relationship to them." (Rayna, 19:47)
• "I want to watch a couple fight on the street—I’ll follow you…12 blocks is my max." (Ashley, 51:35)
• "Legos is like, we don’t want to be the White House, and Fruity Pebbles is like, don’t associate us with your urination kink, please." (Ashley, 51:13)
• "Why is he getting hotter in prison?" (Ashley, 56:45)
• "It’s that level of petty I aspire to." (Raina, 59:37)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:15–01:32: Holiday Show Announcements & Hype
• 02:58–08:46: Thanksgiving Parade Reactions
• 08:51–24:50: Turkey Trot Prank, Family Dynamics, Pranks vs. Traditions
• 25:40–29:22: White House Christmas, Melania’s Shade, Trump’s LEGO Portrait
• 33:20–38:35: Holiday Movie Preview
• 38:51–43:48: TV Recommendations (All Her Fault, The Beast in Me, Southern Charm)
• 43:48–52:15: Mormon Wives, Fruity Pebbles Revelation
• 56:17–65:00: Pop Culture Headlines (Luigi Mangioni, Diddy Doc, Mormon Wives on Broadway, Oxford Word, Best in Show Dog)

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Final Thoughts

• This Snack episode is classic Girls Gotta Eat: half pop-culture absurdity, half wise/irreverent takes on modern relationships and family baggage.
• The hosts’ chemistry, their willingness to dissent, and openness about their boundaries make even the wildest online debates feel accessible and hilarious.
• If you like bachelor spoilers, reality TV tea, and incisive commentary on trends, pranks, and internet drama, this episode is a must-listen (or, with this summary, a perfect catch-up).

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Transcript

[Ashley Hess]

This week on the Snack Turkey Trot. Thoughts Mormon wives and a holiday movie preview.

[Raina Greenberg]

This is Dear Media Production.

[Ashley Hess]

Enjoy.

Hi, guys. Hi, guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

We are about one week away from our holiday show in New York. I'm so excited. I haven't taken the stage with you in a couple months.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, my God. Really excited. Well, we haven't had like a show show since last a year, but this.

[Raina Greenberg]

Is our eighth annual holiday show. We always do it in New York. It's just like big performances, surprises, gift.

[Ashley Hess]

Bags.

Wedding gift bags. I have a lot I need to get rid of. No, we have like so many prizes and surprises and I just cannot wait. We really are going all out like we always do. So you guys really, these shows, if you have never been, you are in for such a treat. No one else does a show like this. The way they open, the way they end, everything that happens in the middle, the stories that we share, stuff you've never heard before on the podcast. And of course, like over the top in terms of like prizes and gifts. We have for you guys this year. A lot of people are gonna leave with something. Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

So this is Saturday night. So easy to come. Bring your mom, bring your daughter, bring your partner, bring your girl group, come by yourself, whatever you want. It is just like the most loving, wonderful, fun room. And we're just doing holiday theme for the outfit this year. So however you wanna interpret that sparkles, red, green, silver, gold. Wanna dress up like the Grinch. You wanna do sexy Santa. We just love to see, like, how you guys interpret that. So that'll be Saturday, December 13th. You can get [e-mail]. we are really excited to see you guys there.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, it is at the Brooklyn AC Music. So it was just right over the bridge in Brooklyn. We've never done a show at this theater. It's stunning. It's gorgeous. It's perfect for the holiday show. And check the ticket prices because some of them were fluctuating early on, which is just the thing that happens with a lot of different shows. And we just want to make sure that they were all fixed across the board. So if you looked and you were like, those ticket prices don't really work for me. Check again. Maybe it'll be something that's more of a fit in your budget. If that's a concern. Of course we know it's not. You know, it can be a tough time of year and tough, tough world out there. So we just wanted to make sure it's as accessible as it can be for a Girls Got yout Show. We want you guys to be there. So again, just check that again at Girls Gotta Eat Dot com. We are just gonna talk about our partners and then we'll get into it.

[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

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Thoughts, Thoughts?

[Raina Greenberg]

T H O T S thoughts. The Thanksgiving Day Parade is what we're kicking off with. And I completely missed this. And I was like, it's cause I was in London. Like, it was over by the time I woke up. But I think I miss it every year.

[Ashley Hess]

I like to have it on. So this year, there were a lot of really fun floats. They had Labubus performing with Temple University, playing the Eagles fight song. So that was fun.

[Raina Greenberg]

How do you think they got paired up together?

[Ashley Hess]

Well, Philly, you're right. The Labubus.

[Raina Greenberg]

How do Boo Boos get involved with Philly?

[Ashley Hess]

It was literally the collab I never knew I needed. But overall, I feel like this parade was a millennial music lover's dream, for one. So you didn't get. Do they even play it? They. You wouldn't even have seen it at all. You would have had to get like a VPN and do a whole thing. And you're not that dedicated.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm not that. I mean, I would have to, like, YouTube the highlights, which is what I did this morning.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes. Okay, so I've, I'm, I'm in and out. You know, I'm having coffee. We're prepping for the day, whatever. So I'm, I'm, I'm. I don't sit down and watch it. I look up, it's Busta Rhymes and the Ninja Turtles. This. How do they.

[Raina Greenberg]

Who paired all these people? Like, we didn't know that.

[Ashley Hess]

They went so well together. They were born to perform together, like the Ninja Turtles.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, break your neck.

[Ashley Hess]

It was crazy. I was like, I never knew I needed the Ninja Turtles to dance to Bust a Rhyme medley.

[Raina Greenberg]

Next year, I want to be in these meetings. I want to know who pairs labubu with Philly and Busta Rhymes with Ninja Turtles. Like, try me. I will come up with crazy combos.

[Ashley Hess]

I think you can't come up with any better than these. We have two more combos to talk about. So. For one, for. So the controversy. People are saying Busta Rhymes was lip syncing, which I thought we all knew, because I think he missed a few ad libs so people could tell. I thought we all knew everyone on the fucking floats are lip syncing. I thought we all knew that.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, so I. Yes, it is very common. I look this up. Like, everybody ad libs, but I also. But why? Well, you can't.

[Ashley Hess]

I'll tell you why. So it's, like, cold for one. You're on a float. Sound wise.

[Raina Greenberg]

Oh, sound wise. It's not a good experience.

[Ashley Hess]

And John Legend revealed that in 2018. I guess people called out Rita Orr for lip syncing. And he posted on Twitter at the time, Fun fact, we all have to lip sync on this parade because the floats don't have the capacity to handle the sound requirements for a live performance. Hope y' all enjoyed it. Anyway, I thought we all knew those were not live performances on a traveling float in the cold.

[Raina Greenberg]

Guess you could hit something. That's bumpy. I mean, people perform in concerts in controlled environments. I don't know why it's, like, such a crazy thing that he was lip syncing.

[Ashley Hess]

It's not. So leave Busta alone. Okay, so next we had Lil Jon on the Toys R Us float. Truly, like, everything was made for our age group.

[Raina Greenberg]

Toys R Us doesn't even exist anymore, does it?

[Ashley Hess]

I didn't think so.

[Raina Greenberg]

I didn't think Toys R Us even exist. My dad used to take us to Toys R Us on Saturdays just to, like, give us something to do. We didn't.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't think we really had one. Like, we did obviously go to Dover, but that was, like, the best day of our lives. Toys R Us, Lil Jon. And then Lil Jon had quite a day because he performed at the halftime show for, I think the Ravens game that night. So he thanks. Baseball's day parade in the morning.

Ravens halftime show at night. And then lastly was Shaggy was on a float with a big turkey.

[Raina Greenberg]

This sounds like you made it up. All of this sounds fake. And you're like, I'm pranking her. She wasn't awake for this. I'm going to make this up. Also, every people are upset that Shaggy was singing in front of children. All of these are crazy decisions, by the way. I don't know why Shaggy is getting called out. Little John and Busta Rhymes break your neck in front of a bunch of little kids. It's all questionable decision making and hilarious. I disagree. Hilarious.

[Ashley Hess]

Top tier decision making. Okay, listen, I get it, but grow up. So first of all, it was an edited version. He. He didn't say banging on the bathroom floor on NBC or whatever the fuck. Second of all, like, what kid is picking up the lyrics that song and being like, mommy, what does that mean? Third of all, that's what we grew up on. So just literally grow up, everybody. Like, I was 10 singing Ain't Too Proud to Beg by TLC around the house if I need it in the morning of the middle of the night, I ain't too proud to beg. 10 years old.

[Raina Greenberg]

Step back. You're dancing kind of close. I was grinding that. I was like, too close. Like 11.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't know meant 100%. We turn on just fine.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's fine.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

These kids aren't thinking about it.

[Ashley Hess]

Grow up.

[Raina Greenberg]

I just. I guess I thought there'd be something more wholesome for Thanksgiving, but this is what America needs. Well, I mean, like, people are so upset about, like a non English speaking person performing at the super bowl, but you legitimately have these people singing about fucking to children on Thanksgiving.

[Ashley Hess]

I love to see it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I love it.

[Ashley Hess]

I'm sure. Also, again, these are three, four floats of however many. There were plenty of other wholesome floats. They did some wicked stuff, whatever. But remember last year? Didn't people freak out because Mrs. Claus was a woman of color? I'm like, I think they are, like, all of y'. All.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, I like that. Nobody gets upset about this, though.

[Ashley Hess]

I love that. And then I posted this, and I didn't know if you knew this. A few people were in my DMs about it. So I posted on my Instagram story, I said, every time I see Al Roi, can't stop thinking about him shitting his pants at the White House in 2012. It's been 13 years that every time I forget and people don't forget, and people were like, wait, what? And then people, I think they thought I was exaggerating or making that up. And so they're googling. They're like, he really did shit his pants. Get. He sharted at the White House.

[Raina Greenberg]

More people should be sharding there now. More people should just fill that Place with poop.

[Ashley Hess]

I know.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, you don't want to shit your.

[Ashley Hess]

Pants in Obama's White House, but I'll take a shit on the front stoop.

[Raina Greenberg]

Leave those pants.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't need those pants anymore. Leave them in the president's bedroom.

[Raina Greenberg]

We will talk about the White House soon.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. So that was the parade. I thought it was the best parade I've seen in years.

[Raina Greenberg]

Obviously, this is better than the Super Bowl. I love it. Okay. I am so excited you told me about this thing this morning. And it's gone, like, viral since this morning, which is the turkey trot prank. So this was basically this family. They decided to pull a prank on this girl. She is the fiance of one of the members of the family.

[Ashley Hess]

Libby. Huh? Libby.

[Raina Greenberg]

That her name?

[Ashley Hess]

Libby.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. So they decide to prank Libby, and they basically tell Libby ahead of time that the whole family does this turkey trot. This 10K. Is that what it was?

[Ashley Hess]

This is one of my bigger issues. Is the 10k for the prank. Like, why not 5k? We'll talk. Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. So they prank her. They said the whole family does this Turkey Trot. 10K. They film it, and they make her wear this. Like, the whole family is in T shirts. They got merch for this. Everyone's at this photo. She has to wear this, like, special because she's new. This special skirt and the special hat. It's a turkey hat. It's kind of goofy and silly.

[Ashley Hess]

It's demoralizing to be in that turkey hat alone. We'll talk about it.

[Raina Greenberg]

And if I'm wearing a turkey hat.

[Ashley Hess]

You'Re wearing a turkey hat.

[Raina Greenberg]

He had the merch on.

[Ashley Hess]

If I'm wearing a chili pepper on my head, you're wearing a hot dog.

[Raina Greenberg]

I like feeling special. I like feeling like everybody went out, bought merch because of me.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

All right. And so they film it, basically, and he's like, you know, we're going to go. And then they reveal on camera that, like, you it's a joke and they don't really do this. And she looks visibly upset. She looks like somebody should have known a little bit better that somebody doesn't have a sense of humor and is not gonna think this is funny.

She at one point, looks like she's gonna burst into tears.

[Ashley Hess]

Did she cry?

[Raina Greenberg]

She put her hands in her head on her face. I don't know if she cried or not. She looks visibly pretty uncomfortable and upset. And then this has gone really viral. There's think pieces about it. I saw at least, like, 10 different TikToks with over.

Thousands of comments. People are pretty upset about this. Not really that divided as I would like them to be about the trauma that this girl faced with this family. And do you wanna marry into a family that would humiliate you like this?

[Ashley Hess]

Guys, I'm sitting here and I still don't know how Reina feels about it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't think it's that big of a deal. I think we're making a bigger deal about this than it is. I think it's. First of all the worst part about this is that somebody made me train and exercise.

[Ashley Hess]

She didn't fucking tr. No one has proof she trained. So before we will discuss this and we will do our own thing piece and you know what I don't want to do is I don't want to be hypocritical because there is part of me that's like, guys, it's not that deep but we are going to dissect it. So I guess it is that deep. But my biggest issue and someone called this fan fiction this morning on Tik Tok is people making up all these details that they don't know. So while we're here, no one knows if she trained for for weeks or months. No one knows if she bought new.

[Raina Greenberg]

Shoes for this $200 Hokas.

[Ashley Hess]

Like but it started with $50. Like it's, it's been exaggerated and people are making up all this fake lore. Someone said she had a baby because I think there's a baby in the, in the video, but that's not her baby. Someone said she missed her own family's Thanksgiving to be with them. Like we can let this stand alone without all the made up things. And this is what I fudgeing hate about the Internet. They take everything too far. People are demanding apologies from this family. People are saying it's abusive. Like I can't. Like I have feelings on the, on, on it. On the prank in general. But can we just talk about it without adding all these fudgeing lies? Like I hate this. Like this is my biggest thing.

[Raina Greenberg]

She.

[Ashley Hess]

He watched her wake up at 5am every day for months to train for a 10K. No, no one knows that that happened. She hasn't said shit.

[Raina Greenberg]

The $200 hoka is she bought shoes for this. How do you know? What do you say?

[Ashley Hess]

What are you saying? Like that's the thing. Like that's what I hate that people do this. Like we can't have funny things anymore because everybody's got to do a think piece which that's Fine. Like, I will dissect the most nice shit with you for fudgeing hours. I love to do it, so I'm not going to criticize that. But the way that people are speaking about this, like, this family has abused this.

[Raina Greenberg]

Do you really want to marry into this family that's going to humiliate you know, my thoughts are, listen, you should know your. Your partner a little bit better and know if they're going to think this is funny or not. This girl does not seem like somebody that can take a joke like this.

[Ashley Hess]

I know.

[Raina Greenberg]

Me, personally, I would live for it if I knew that 10 people were on a group chat all week, just for weeks, planning this to make this whole joke about me. Everything was about me. You guys bought merch. You filmed it. Everyone was in on this. You just gotta plan the surprise for me. And it's not that deeply humiliating. It's like they told her she was gonna have to run, and then she didn't have to run. It's not like all this stuff happened and then she was so humiliated on the world stage. It was just. They didn't make her run. Making me run would be worse.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. I see both sides of it. I think people are too sensitive in general and. And blow things out of proportion and that people just are dying to be offended by it. But I also. The thing I want to know the most is, did she run and train for this? I don't like that. I don't like if, like, if he. If they told her. And when did they tell her? Like, has this been weeks or months in the planning? Because I think people view it differently than you, and you're like, a stable, secure person. You wouldn't train a day for this. You know, you'd be like, all right, I'll walk. I'll walk it. Yeah, Like, I don't care, but I don't know if that's what happened. So are they all in a group chat behind her back? Like, wait till we get her, you know? And then I saw a psychologist weigh in. I'm like, this is the. And the sisters proving that she's an outsider. And you don't know. Like, I need to know so much more about this family to decide if this was this really insidious thing that she needs to get out of this engagement.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes. Everybody views this through the lens of their own partner's family and what has happened to them in the past. I was thinking about, like, the lens of, like, my ex fiance and his family, because people were saying, like, this Is their way of making her feel like she doesn't belong and she's an outsider. By the time I was gonna marry somebody, I had been with his family 50 times, 100 times. I was with them all the time. We socialized with them constantly. We lived in Brooklyn, right by his family. We went out with his cousins all the time to eat. I was with his parents, like, every other weekend. If they all planned a prank about me, I would think that was so funny, because I feel like a part of the family. I've always been a part of that.

[Ashley Hess]

But you are. But there you are viewing it from that lens.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ashley Hess]

I would have to know. Yes. People are saying this was her first Thanksgiving with them.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes.

[Ashley Hess]

Some people were saying be the fake lore.

[Raina Greenberg]

But I don't know. Like, yeah, I guess it was.

[Ashley Hess]

I think they said that her first Thanksgiving, like, But has she been with.

[Raina Greenberg]

Them 15 other times?

[Ashley Hess]

Exactly. Like it. Listen, I really don't love it. I think it felt like hazing in a way. Like, I don't really like it. And if I were her, I might be like, I don't. I just need to know what's been happening the past few weeks. That's all. Because I. The main comment I'm seeing is the sentiment is not what's so wrong about it. It's like, if they would have told her that morning, wake up, we're doing the turkey trot. I think it's the length of time that's bothering everybody. Like this really premeditated. Let's embarrass Libby. But again, you don't see the family group chat, and people wanna make their own assumptions and carry torches for this family. And maybe they deserve it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, listen, again, if it was me, I would think it was hysterical. If your whole family conspired to prank me, I would think that was the funniest thing. But I like attention and your family. And I know that I feel like an insider with these people. But, like, she looked visibly very upset. And the partner should know better.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes. Was he lying? I say the word lying loosely because I like to play jokes on people, whatever. And that does. You have to lie sometimes. Like, technically, whatever. But, like, for weeks. Has he been gassing her up? Let's get you new shoes. Let's get you out there on the pavement. Let's get you trained up. Like, I think that it's a 10k. Was weird. I think. Let's go 5k.

[Raina Greenberg]

5K and walk a 5k easily.

[Ashley Hess]

I think it's weird that she reacted like that. And they hit send on that post. I think that should have stayed in the drafts. She looks upset.

[Raina Greenberg]

You're so right.

[Ashley Hess]

This didn't go as planned. Which fucking sister said, send it anyway.

[Raina Greenberg]

You're so right. Like, everybody else looks like they're laughing and joking around. The dad hugs her and, like, she does not look happy. And somebody posted that.

[Ashley Hess]

We should know the Internet better, you guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm dying to know what the dynamic with the family is. Cause my first boyfriend in New York, I went home to Detroit with his family. Like, Grosse Pointe, Michigan. And it was not a good Christmas weekend. It was really uncomfortable. The very first thing his mom said to me, it was like a skit. She was so weird. And then she hugged me, and then she said, I'm so glad you're here. And I was like, oh, thank you. And she said immediately. Because we usually don't have people who aren't a part of our family, so you can take the photos.

[Ashley Hess]

I remember this.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, I was. I hated that whole weekend. Those people fucking sucked. I felt like they were constantly setting up ways to make me feel like I didn't belong there. I guess he said to me after the fact, like, I brought girls home every year, and they're just kind of sick of it, essentially. And I was like, oh, okay.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, great. Thanks so much.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm great. I'm glad. I'm being like, what slut shamed by your family is your scumbag?

[Ashley Hess]

They're like, we're not gonna bother remembering your name.

[Raina Greenberg]

Exactly. She's like, oh, good, we have a picture taker here. I hated that. And if those people had pranked me, I'd be like, fuck all you.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes. I just need so much more information. Like, I do want to hear more. I am invested. I'm here for it. I just think people have yet again overreacted and lost the plot a little bit. But it's okay. I mean, if you want to again, put yourself in those shoes and you want to analyze it, that's also fine, too. I just have such a problem with all the fake details.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, you're so right. The amount of people that were like, he should have bought her those sneakers if she was gonna get. Who said that? She did. Maybe she's also an athlete. She has $200. Hokas. Maybe she. Am I saying it right, Hokas?

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, maybe she runs. Maybe she didn't train. She looks fit. She's young.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. I just like, God, everybody takes everything too fucking far.

[Raina Greenberg]

The Worst thing, I mean, I would be like, I can't believe I'm marrying to a family that does a turkey trot.

[Ashley Hess]

Well. So that's the thing. Big comment on TikTok is I'd rather be with a turkey trot family than a person prank family. People don't like this. They think it's bullying. People are not a fan of pranks. And again, like, I.

You and I have said we don't really like pranks. I mean, it's giving. Like, is the fiance the kind of guy that's gonna smash cake in her face at the wedding? So it just depends. Like, we just need more information. That's the thing. Why I don't. I wish people could just comment on what we know so far and all admit, like, we need more information to make a full assessment on whether she should marry that man.

[Raina Greenberg]

The pranking, I guess. I mean, I don't like it. It's not for me. But I mean, two people could do the exact same thing to me, and I would have a totally different reaction depending on my relationship to two people.

[Ashley Hess]

100%. Yeah. So it's like she needs to ask herself. This could very well be the final straw in her decision to not marry this guy. Like, I don't know, like, if this got done to me and he really had been pushing this for weeks and, like, we should get out there and run and, like, wasting my time just so they could do this. Like, I would have a feeling about it. Totally. If she didn't like this, he should know she wouldn't like it. He should know her better.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, the look on her face. If you guys haven't watched this video, like, that is not somebody who appreciated this. She is upset. She looks, like, deeply upset.

[Ashley Hess]

But again, we don't know. But she looked that way. So don't post it. Like, she could have been like, oh, my fucking God. I've never been pranked before. I don't know how to react. Like, we truly don't know. She was not sobbing in the corner like some people have said. But don't post it because it looks bad.

[Raina Greenberg]

Also, she's in, like, that giant turkey hat and a tattoo and the rest of the. And a tutu tattoo.

[Ashley Hess]

Like, they made her get a tattoo.

For all. Get a kid tattoo.

[Raina Greenberg]

Be so bitch.

[Ashley Hess]

We all get turkey tattoos. You have to get the tattoo first, and then we'll put your time underneath of it. We all record our times on our tattoos.

[Raina Greenberg]

Everybody shows up with the fake tattoos, and they make her go get a real One that would be. They'd be, I pray to you. Imagine she. She's like dressed up in this dumb tutu with the hat. And also she do you know, old she is. Too many concepts of it. She looks really young. So that's the other thing. Like, I feel like I can stand a little more confidently in somebody's family at this age than I could have when I was like 20. I just like, didn't know my place. I, you know, I wasn't paying for anything. I wasn't contributing for anything, you know?

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, people are calling it a humiliation ritual, like, but it could be though. We just don't know. Like, there are mean fucking families out there and then there are families who love to joke around and it's all love and we don't know where they fall. And so people really need a response from them. But I will say, Reina, I saw a few more turkey trots this year than usual. Like, I was like, who am I friends with? Like, I don't know who is doing this? I don't mind it. I just, like, turkey trots were never on my radar. Like, even when I was a runner, I was a drunk slut first and foremost. So Thanksgiving Eve was my super bowl of blacking out and having sex with.

[Raina Greenberg]

Different guys from high school.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. So I would have never dreamed, even in my peak runner running half marathons era, to run on Thanksgiving morning. Like, my turkey trot was a walk of shame. There's two types of girls on Thanksgiving morning. Are you a turkey trot or you walk of shame?

[Raina Greenberg]

I just don't know who the turkey trot families are. One year, I think two years ago, my brother Adriana, my dad and I of us went to the gym in like their little community and we went rode the pelotons. You know, I was like in my peloton era one time. We all worked out together.

[Ashley Hess]

I think it's a meme. It's a funny meme. The whole. For years, you know, my biggest nightmare is marrying into a family that runs a 5K on Thanksgiving morning. I still have no shade about it. You want to get up and run, That's a healthy thing to do. Like, I just personally, that was never going to be me and it's my family, but I would never knock it. I think that's nice. Get up and work out and you're gonna have this big meal and I think it's fine. It's just not something I would do, but I am seeing more.

[Raina Greenberg]

Would you? You would pick Turkey trot family over prank family. Yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

5K though. 10k.

[Raina Greenberg]

10K.

[Ashley Hess]

Turkey trots are 5ks. That's why it's called a trot.

[Raina Greenberg]

But 5k also. You could just walk. Yeah, like, I'm not walking a 10k. I'm not doing a 10k. I'm just not doing it.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes, great question. I am picking turkey trot. I'm. We're.

[Raina Greenberg]

And I'll.

[Ashley Hess]

I'll come or not. I don't have to go. Libby doesn't know this yet. She is just like a youngin. I don't think she knows. You don't have to do this. Say no. Set your boundaries.

[Raina Greenberg]

I think I'm going. Listen, I'm going turkey trot. I'm going Turkey trot family. Just because I know what to expect. I don't really love being pranked. I mean, again, I still think people have overreacted to this, like, crazy. And it's not humiliation ritual, but, like, I don't know, I just want to, like, feel like I could de escalate and relax and like, I'm not just like, looking out for some prank you're gonna do to me. Like, gotcha. I don't wanna be gotcha. Leave me alone.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, pranks, I guess I think that's the thing. It's like the length of the prank, the premeditation of the prank, like little things here and there. You know, I love to go around the corner and scare somebody. You know, doing that kind of stuff like that. Anything that's, like, gonna fuck me up physically, never. Don't you throw me in the pool, smash food in my face. Immediate divorce. No. And this just feels like I don't. If you guys are all in a group chat about me, you better be playing something nice.

Like if my fiance and his entire family are in the group chat about Ashley on Thanksgiving Day, I better be getting celebrated, not embarrassed.

[Raina Greenberg]

Also, it's not even that good of a prank.

[Ashley Hess]

I mean, like, I think it's a pretty good prank.

I think it's mean.

[Raina Greenberg]

So in order for it to have been a good prank, it would have had to be going on for weeks. Like, he would have had to continuously do this. Cause, like, otherwise, I don't know. You just, like, told her that she was gonna have to, like, run in the morning and you guys gave her some merch and she stood on camera and you were like, gotcha. And then she didn't have to go do the prank. Like, at least make me run like the first mile and then be like, we're just kidding. We're not doing this.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, I think if this would have been, wake up in the morning, it's time to turkey trot and just fucking with her for an hour tops, I think the Internet would have been fine with this. So. Yeah. And then again her reaction, don't post it. You guys gotta be better. Okay, well, let's just transition from Thanksgiving into Christmas. The White House is decorated for Christmas.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, I listen again. I hate everything about the Trump administration, but I have missed, like, certain things. And I forgot about Melania's reaction to Christmas. I forgot, like, the video that came out, it's a recording. I'm working. I'm working my ass off on Christmas stuff, you know that who gives a fuck about the Christmas stuff and decorations? But I need to do it right. Like that's crazy for a first lady to say that. Who gives a right? A lot of people kind of give a fuck. It's. It's light, it's joy. How much does she have any joy in her life?

[Ashley Hess]

Is that a real question?

[Raina Greenberg]

No.

[Ashley Hess]

These people hate joy.

[Raina Greenberg]

This should be the only joy she gets. Did they hate dogs?

[Ashley Hess]

They paved over the rose garden. They were demolishing the house. No, they hate. Hello, that's not. I think we know that by now.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, she hates Christmas.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. I mean, she hates doing her job. She doesn't want to be. She doesn't want to be the First Lady. She doesn't want to be married to this band. So this is like the main thing she does. I mean, nothing really blew me away. It all looked pretty mid. I don't know, they've like already ruined the White House, so what do we expect? But I really was fascinated by the 6,000 piece Lego portrait.

[Raina Greenberg]

Listen, I am not a stranger to LEGO portraits, so there's a LEGO portrait of Trump. It's in the green room. It's him. So I became aware of Lego portraits because Ari Adamatics and Tom Sandoval had one in their house of the two of them in the hallway. And I was like, that's the dopest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, really?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't think it's cool.

[Raina Greenberg]

I think when our animatics did it, it was cool. I think what she does is cool. I think what Donald Trump does, anything, it's not cool. And I think Legos is probably like, why'd you drag us into this?

[Ashley Hess]

I think it's exactly what a toddler asks for, so. Exactly.

[Raina Greenberg]

Tom Sandoval.

[Ashley Hess]

Tom Sandoval and Donald Trumping children are like, I want a LEGO picture. You know, Trump was like, I want a Lego portrait this man child.

[Raina Greenberg]

I would. I would low key not mind it if you got me a Lego portrait of myself.

[Ashley Hess]

All right, well, I'm working on the barista, but I'll add that into the mix.

[Raina Greenberg]

I would really kind of like it. I mean, he also just, like, looks so grumpy. Like, you couldn't have picked a better picture of yourself. He's like, we hate Christmas. There's no joy here.

[Ashley Hess]

I know. There's a gingerbread house. It's just, I don't know, like, it.

[Raina Greenberg]

Is kind of mid.

[Ashley Hess]

I agree with you.

[Raina Greenberg]

I mean, there's not really much to it. There's red presents and there's something like. What do they say? How many trees? You say it was 60 trees or something like that.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. So anyway, you know, they've. I mean, they've already done so much damage, so I don't even know why they bothered.

[Raina Greenberg]

Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't just demolish the whole thing.

[Ashley Hess]

Home is where the heart is is the theme.

[Raina Greenberg]

Whose heart lives there?

[Ashley Hess]

Literally, the White House is where the heart is. Not.

[Raina Greenberg]

Wait, you know what I didn't put in the outline this week and I forgot about it is Donald Trump's MRI results and Tim Waltz, like, demanding them. And are you familiar with.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, and he doesn't know what he got MRI'd or. So he doesn't know what he got scanned?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah. He's like, I don't know what it is, but it's not my brain. I'm positive. It's like, he doesn't. Weren't you in the tube? That's insane. And he doesn't care what the results are. He was just like, I think that they scanned a thing. He's like, what's the difference? I'm gonna be here. I'm going to try to be here until 2036.

[Ashley Hess]

It's really crashing out. He's like, I have been dying a slow death in front of you guys for years. Yeah, I think I'm leaving.

[Raina Greenberg]

Who cares if I'm capable? I've never been capable.

[Ashley Hess]

Capable.

[Raina Greenberg]

I hate it here.

[Ashley Hess]

He's like, oh, it's so funny. You guys think my brain ever worked, right?

[Raina Greenberg]

You guys, I don't care. I don't care if it works. I've never run on a platform that I have any idea what I'm doing. I have a plan or I ever will have a plan. Why would I know about my results?

[Ashley Hess]

100% like why is this surprising to anyone?

[Raina Greenberg]

I'll be non verbal. I'll still run this country.

[Ashley Hess]

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[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's cozy season fam. And here we are again in our Columbia Amaze puff jackets that we are just so obsessed with. This is truly the warmest, softest down jacket I've ever worn. And it looks so good.

[Ashley Hess]

They do look good. And we love everything about them, especially the Columbia touches you'd expect like a Omni shield technology to keep moisture and stains away. A removable hood. Thumb holes. I love a thumb hole. This chunky zipper that's easy to grab even if you have your gloves on. And they have tons of colors in three jacket lengths. So obviously we have the long ones on. But I love the short and medium styles as well.

[Raina Greenberg]

These make a great gift for anyone on your list. And we all have that friend or sibling or mom who's always like cold and doesn't have a jacket. So get Them this.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes. So you guys can head to columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze puff jacket for the holidays. They are tough on cold. Soft on you. Okay, so we're back. Just gonna do a holiday movie preview. Lots of new movies coming out on all networks, streaming services. All the things. I watched a few and I plan on watching more.

[Raina Greenberg]

You already watched them?

[Ashley Hess]

I've watched two. So I'll go through these and you guys can keep track. We'll throw these up on Instagram as well. We'll do a little list for you. So the first one, this is one that I've seen. This is a Merry Little Xmas, you guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

Ashley does this every year. If you're not familiar, she is an expert.

[Ashley Hess]

I've done this every year. Yes, I used. And last year I went overboard. I watched too many and I started too soon, and I was really Christmased out by Christmas or whatever we watched last year.

[Raina Greenberg]

Lindsay Lohan was two years ago or last Christmas.

[Ashley Hess]

Lindsay Lohan was a couple years ago. Last year was the stripper one with Chad Michael Murray, Married gentleman. Yes. Okay. Chad Michael Murray is in it in one this year. It was Clothes on, which we're upset about. But yeah. So last year was a good year. A Merry Little Xmas. So I watched this with my mom. This is on Netflix. This also spoke to my millennial soul. So Alicia Silverstone stars in it. Yeah, it's really great. Oliver Hudson also stars. And Melissa Joan Hart is in it. And Jameela. Jameel is in it. It's a great cast. Yeah. So immediately I'm like, good cast. It's gotta be decent. Not too cheesy, you know? Okay, so it's about a couple. They're going through a divorce in the small town, and they're trying to keep it together for the families and keep it cordial and all of that. And there's a new girlfriend involved and all that stuff. But at least the Silverstone stars in it. She's great. Love her. She still just has the voice of Cher Horowitz. And it's so like you're watching her, you're like, that's Cher. She says stuff the same.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's like 25 years ago. Like, I shouldn't be hearing this coming out of your head.

[Ashley Hess]

It's crazy. Like, okay, the next one is a very Jonas Christmas. So this is a Jonas Brothers Christmas.

[Raina Greenberg]

I saw this this morning. It's this good.

[Ashley Hess]

It's pretty good. So it's a quasi musical. They do perform songs, which I know I Don't love a movie musical. But I think you see that you want the Jonas Brothers to perform songs. They're the Jonas Brothers.

[Raina Greenberg]

Do they ever stop working?

[Ashley Hess]

I know.

[Raina Greenberg]

I saw this rumor that they're broke and that's why they never stop working. I just feel like they've never stopped working.

[Ashley Hess]

Well, that comes up in the movie. Okay, so they obviously play themselves. Will Ferrell's in it. He plays himself. It's kind of a weird cameo, but this is on Hulu. I think it's cute. They have great chemistry. We were. We were laughing out loud a few times.

Okay, next we have two European escapes. Oh, Champagne Problems.

[Raina Greenberg]

That sounds fun.

[Ashley Hess]

Is also on Netflix. Starring Minka Kelly. She is an executive who travels to France to acquire champagne brand for a company. One night of fun in Paris creates complications when she learns that her new love interest is the founder's son. So that's going to be Champagne Problems on Netflix. And then Jingle Bell Heist. Oh, crime movie.

[Raina Greenberg]

Your true crime.

[Ashley Hess]

Disgruntled hourly employees hatch a plan to rob a London department store on Christmas Eve. Thievery brings the duo closer together. And in their attempt to commit a crime, they fall in love.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, is it same sex couple, two men?

I don't know.

[Ashley Hess]

I should have dove deeper. Yeah. This is your gay Christmas, you love story. A couple years ago, there was the Queer Love Story on Hulu. That was so good. Kristen Stewart. I loved that one.

[Raina Greenberg]

Anyway, what did we watch last year? It was that one about the airport I didn't pay attention to at all.

[Ashley Hess]

That was scary.

[Raina Greenberg]

I maybe looked up from my phone.

[Ashley Hess]

One time, but it was like the TSA with.

What'S the actor?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, they're gonna like, blow up that plane.

[Ashley Hess]

Carry on, Carry on.

[Raina Greenberg]

Ashley liked it. I was there, but I don't remember with Jason Bateman. Oh, that's who that was.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, just to circle back, Jingle Bell Heist is on Netflix too. Okay, I just have a few more. Joy to the World. This is Chad Michael Murray. So he's on Hulu this year. Joy to the World. It also has Ayesha Curry in it. This movie follows a lifestyle guru who tries to convince everyone she has the perfect life. It sounds like Chad McElmurray is keeping his clothes on. So we don't love that, but I could be wrong. Okay, next we have. This is what I think we might wanna watch. Oh, what Fun is just premiered on Prime Video starring Michelle Pfeiffer. What? And written and directed by Michael Showalter. Who did the Idea View. Who did the big sick like a legitimate writer director. So she's an overworked and underappreciated mom. She finds her family's forgotten to invite her to a special Christmas event. She decides to go on her own adventure. I think that's what we're gonna like.

[Raina Greenberg]

Michelle Pfeiffer goes on her own adventure.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Isn't she like 80?

[Ashley Hess]

Michelle Pfeiffer? I mean, she's a mom. She's gonna play a mom. Got it.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. Not that mom. You know. Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

Moms can go on adventures.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. And the last one.

[Raina Greenberg]

Grandma's gonna go on adventures.

[Ashley Hess]

The last one is Christmas every day. This is on Lifetime starring Brandy.

[Raina Greenberg]

Brandy.

[Ashley Hess]

Brandy Norwood opposite her real life daughter.

[Raina Greenberg]

Wait, did you nor. She has a last name. Brandy's. Norwood is her last name.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, Everybody knows.

[Raina Greenberg]

No, everybody does not know that. Comment in the comments. Okay, you guys. And let me know.

[Ashley Hess]

I'm an old school Brandy, Stan.

[Raina Greenberg]

So am I.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. Brandy's gonna be with her daughter and she is a devoted fashion designer, juggling family obligations and career ambitions. So those are your eight holiday movies that are most anticipated for the season.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm getting really excited about Christmas and going home because we also were to watch. Well, I'm probably going to watch the Taylor Swift dog before that, obviously.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

Tom Segura also has a comedy special coming out on Christmas.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, excited to watch that. Okay, we'll watch that.

[Raina Greenberg]

We watched Neighbor Gazzi last year and.

[Ashley Hess]

Then we were just going to talk about other stuff we've been watching. So all her fault is one of the best shows I've seen in a long time. This is on Peacock. So I did the Peacock seven day free trial. I watched this in like three days. My mom and I started it and then I finished it in Boston with Shashank. I couldn't help myself. I was so addicted to it. I loved it so much.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm so excited. I wouldn't have nested. Well. So Sarah Snook and Jake Lacey, two people that I just absolutely love. They star in this show about their son getting kidnapped and they're trying to sort of figure out who took him.

[Ashley Hess]

It's an alfanny.

[Raina Greenberg]

This nanny took him. Alfred Al Fanning. No, it's Dakota Fanning.

[Ashley Hess]

It's Dakota.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's Dakota. It's Dakota Fanning. It's not Elle Fanning because, you know, I want Elle Fanning to play me.

[Ashley Hess]

Which one was in the Perfect Couple?

[Raina Greenberg]

My dream. Dakota. What? Elle Fanning is a totally different look. And, you know, I want her to play me. And anytime somebody makes a show about us, eventually you're right.

[Ashley Hess]

That's Dakota Fanning.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, because I just. I've always wanted Elle Fanning to play me.

[Ashley Hess]

That's why the whole time I thought it was Dakota.

I see, I see. Okay, Dakota Fan. And you guys.

[Raina Greenberg]

And it's about this very wealthy couple and their son goes missing. He's kidnapped. They're trying to figure out how it's a thriller. It really was, like, very anxiety provoking to me. I was, like, very stressed out watching it. But I'm so excited.

[Ashley Hess]

It's so good, you guys. I love it so much. But if you think that stresses you out, may I recommend the Beast in Me? Reina. I'm like, almost not well enough for this show. What's about. I don't even know. Like, Claire Danes stars. Yeah, Claire Danes and Matthew Reese. Matthew Rice.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay.

[Ashley Hess]

They're neighbors. She's a writer. She lost her young son. And this neighbor moves in and he is basically a big time multimillionaire real estate developer in New York that has. His wife went missing and people think he killed her. And they develop this relationship. And it is so dark. It is so twisted. And we finished episode six last night and I had trouble sleeping. The way it ends, we have two more to go. I was fucked up. And then I looked.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't know if you usually like.

[Ashley Hess]

Stuff like this, so I. I love thrillers. I don't like violence and gore. Is it violent? No. There's really one scene where I had to cover my eyes. It was just a fight. Someone getting beat up. Actually getting killed, like, beat up to death. And I was like, I can't look at this. And I could hear it. And I was like, this feels like gratuitous. This is too much. And it was blood everywhere. And like, other than that, I mean, there are themes of murder. It was like a kid hostage type situation, but it's not violent. And so I like that. Thrilling. Psychological. Thrilling. Yeah. But I just. As long as it's not like blood and guts and a bunch of like, violence, I'm good with it. So it is. So it's a wild ride. And then Claire Danes, her, like, signature ugly cry face, you know, I missed it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I love her.

[Ashley Hess]

I love her so much. Truly the best. So those are the two shows we recommend. And if you just transition one into the other, it's just. It's heavy.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, I'm stressed out. I could only get through two episodes last night and I actually, I'm rewatching succession. So I went from Sarah Snook in all her fault to Sarah Snook in succession.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

Which if you're palate cleansing with succession, you know that it is a high stress show.

[Ashley Hess]

I needed a palate cleanser last night. We finished episode six, and then we were shutting out the lights, about to go upstairs, and I looked out in the patio and there was a cat at the door. I screamed and I'm like, why am I scared? There's nothing to be scared. I just. The movie or the show? Just. It fucks. It fucks you up. And it's like, a lot of just like government corruption, too. It's just dark. It's heavy.

[Raina Greenberg]

Well, may I interest you in Southern Charm season?

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. What's going on with Southern Charm?

[Raina Greenberg]

I just. I think I'm the last person enjoying this show. I feel like no one else watches it but me. I've no. It's the only show I have no community in. I've been trying to sell you on this. You don't really watch it, Right.

[Ashley Hess]

Last year I picked it up. You dabbled. Yeah. When they were in the Bahamas and I got you the mug, remember?

[Raina Greenberg]

Yeah, well, we did the mugs. I just like it.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't know.

[Raina Greenberg]

And it's weird because I don't really root for anybody. Vanita and Madison, I guess. Lacroix. I'm just. I'm liking the season.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

And Sally, who's a new cast member, is fighting on Instagram with Taylor Ann Green, who's not on the show anymore.

[Ashley Hess]

I just.

[Raina Greenberg]

I like when people take the beef, like, off television, straight to Instagram, and I can follow the beef in, like, real time.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. Let's take this outside. So for show queen of it.

[Raina Greenberg]

So I listen. I'm really liking it. It's not that deep. Paige is a major theme, obviously, the breakup, and they're basically talking about the breakup. And Craig's starting to, like, date again and hook up with girls and his narrative, I guess, of what he thinks happened. And I don't know. I like the show.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

I'm into it.

[Ashley Hess]

Well, you guys, yet again, Raina recommends Southern Charm every year. But it's like, we know you love.

[Raina Greenberg]

It, and then I'm not.

[Ashley Hess]

I go back and forth. I used to love, love it, and I took a few years off. I picked it back up last year because, like, I loved the Shep text storyline.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's hard to root for these dusty men. You just can't, you know? So, like, I hate. I hate recommending it with Shep and Austin. But, like, I like it, you guys.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, so you need to fill me in on Mormon wives. So Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I have been threatening to watch this for years, and I.

[Raina Greenberg]

Everyone has been telling you.

[Ashley Hess]

I know, and I really want to.

[Raina Greenberg]

And last night, it came out that you don't trust me.

[Ashley Hess]

I said, I trust you 85%.

[Raina Greenberg]

That's crazy. We were dinner with Anoushka last week. She was like, I can't believe you don't watch this. And you're like, maybe. And we were on a group chat with Alyssa last night, and you were like, maybe I don't trust Reina. Raina, we found out that you haven't trusted me since 2020.

[Ashley Hess]

I said, I trust you 85.

[Raina Greenberg]

One time I said one thing, and I stand by it.

[Ashley Hess]

Raina told me not to watch normal people in 2020 during COVID And it's my favorite show of all time, and I'll never get over it. And so I. I've regained your trust five years ago. Well, we don't also have the same taste.

[Raina Greenberg]

I don't like shows about teenagers falling in love.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, we don't have the. We don't like Anoushka, and I have the exact same. Exact same taste. You know, like, I. I don't think you claim to have the exact same taste as me. Everybody knows we're on the same taste.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, but the reason why I told you not to watch normal people is because it was so deeply moving in, like, a very sad way. And, like, we were going through enough during COVID During the quarantine. That's why I told you that I thought it was too upsetting to watch. I sat on my floor and, like, you were alone, gulped for air.

[Ashley Hess]

You shouldn't have watched it. You shouldn't have watched it.

[Raina Greenberg]

I was having sex to my neighbor upstairs sometimes.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, Raina, tell me about Mormon wise, because I have been seeing rumblings of fruity pebbles on the Internet, and I have abstained from diving into it because you were going to tell me what it's about.

[Raina Greenberg]

So at this point, this was like, eight days ago, and this has stayed with me. And I tried to leave you a concise voice note about this last night, which was six minutes, so I will try to wrap this up.

[Ashley Hess]

And I didn't listen, you guys, because I was like, no, I wanted. I said, explain it to me. And then you took six minutes of your time. And I meant, no, I didn't mean that.

[Raina Greenberg]

So basically, how do I make this the reason Why I like Mormon Wives and it's so hard to explain is because these women are like, across so many different shows across Hulu, like Vanderpump Rules and Vanderpump Villa and Dancing with the Stars and now Broadway, like, they're just everywhere. So it's hard to, like, even explain this to you, but season one of Mormon Wives, these two, they were joking about this girl Demi doing this thing called Fruity Pebbles with her husband. It was. People knew it was a sex act and she was very, like, coy about it. And everyone kind of like joked about it, like, hehehe. And nobody really knew what it was. And Demi, who there's been all this drama, basically, she tried to, like, strong arm the producers of the show into giving her way more money for season three, which ultimately led to her being kicked off the show.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

But she still came back to film parts of season three because she was still showing up during season three at these influencer events that the other girls were at. And also during season three, they filmed the press tour for season two. So she's a part of it anyways because she was a part of the show in season two. So anyway, season one, they do this whole Fruity Pebbles thing, and she's being like, very hee coy about it. Whatever. She dresses up as Fruity Pebbles for Halloween. I think she did like a brand deal with Fruity Pebbles. Like, she made it this whole thing while also simultaneously not talking about what it was. And fast forward to season three. Her and this girl Jessie have had this falling out. They were best friends previously. This guy has come between them. They're both married. And then there's been this whole drama in tea with this guy Marciano, who's a waiter at Vanderpump Villa. And during the vanderpump Villa Season 2 on Hulu, all the Mormon wives go to the Vanderpump Villa, which I think was in Italy. And people speculated that Demi had this thing with Marciano. Demi's married, Marciano's a waiter. And she, since then, on camera, she was flirting with him. She was kind of all over him. Women have made comments that like, they had a thing. She accused him of being a sexual predator this year.

[Ashley Hess]

Oh, okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

What she said to back this up was basically like, he touched my butt. I'm not saying it didn't go further than that. I. I believe women. I think we should believe women. But people have gotten very upset with her on the show for saying that she was sexually assaulted.

[Ashley Hess]

Right.

[Raina Greenberg]

And likening it to having somebody Pat her butt. I'm not gonna get into the weeds with this whole thing. So, yeah, she says this thing happened with him. It comes to light that actually Jesse had an affair with him, not Demi. So Jesse was actually having an emotional affair with him. She made out with him a couple times. Demi threatens to release this during season three. So Jesse is forced to release this during season three. And Marciano is posting a storm up about this whole thing. So everyone's having this falling out. See, don't you wish you watched the show? It's crazy.

[Ashley Hess]

I'm like. I'm sitting here, like, when are we getting to Fruity Pebbles?

[Raina Greenberg]

And. Okay, so I'm gonna get to it. So basically, Demi and Jesse now have had this crazy falling out. It has gone past season three. They're fighting on Instagram. Tons of Instagram fighting. And Jesse's like, if you want to fuck with me so bad, I will drop what Fruity Pebbles is. And then she does. And then Jesse, like, eight days ago is like, I'm going to fucking tell you what it is. So basically what it was was that Demi peed in her husband's mouth, and he said it tasted like Fruity Pebbles.

[Ashley Hess]

I just, like, don't want to kink shame.

But peeing in the mouth is something I just.

Why are we. Can't we just pee on each other? Like, I've never. I've never understood it right now. I could throw up.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, can we just get in the shower and pee on each other?

[Ashley Hess]

I'll do that all day.

[Raina Greenberg]

You want to?

[Ashley Hess]

I'll. I'm down.

[Raina Greenberg]

If you have to pee on me. We should be in a shower.

[Ashley Hess]

Well, we did an episode with Carly Shortino years ago, and she was saying, like, she would when she was a dominatrix, like, that's what she would. They would want.

[Raina Greenberg]

So basically, okay, so Jesse comes out with this. Demi responds, and she's like, this was a private consensual act between my husband and I.

[Ashley Hess]

She's like, but we do it. She's admitting we do it. She admits it. Okay.

[Raina Greenberg]

But she's like, this is a private.

[Ashley Hess]

These Mormons do this.

[Raina Greenberg]

These Mormons. Actually, the whole thing came about because Taylor, Frankie, Paul is a sweet.

[Ashley Hess]

Right? Okay. Yes. They're freaky sleepy with.

[Raina Greenberg]

Miranda is now on the show. The person she had the swinging scandal with is now on the show. All the people are on this show. Miranda's ex husband, who also Taylor had an affair with. This is the best show. So don't you feel like it's just fun you're just like hearing about drama of other people. So anyways, Demi comes forward and she's like, this is a consensual sexual act between my husband and I. That was no one's business. And like, how dare you, essentially. And Jesse's like, how dare I? You made this your whole storyline, season one. You did brand deals and partnerships and dressed up like this. And like, how dare I Dane to say what this was? You made it a thing.

[Ashley Hess]

And no one ever asked what is it? Or would they ask her? And she would be coy about it.

[Raina Greenberg]

She was just like, she's coy about it.

[Ashley Hess]

That's playing with fire. Yeah.

[Raina Greenberg]

You are daring somebody to say what this is.

[Ashley Hess]

Yes.

[Raina Greenberg]

And you better not be publicly accusing me of having an affair with somebody because I going to spill if you start. If you start lying about me, I'm going to start telling truths about you. I don't like it.

[Ashley Hess]

100%. Words to live in death. That's your mantra? Is that your housewives quote?

[Raina Greenberg]

No. Who else said it this week? I think somebody else.

[Ashley Hess]

I never thought that. I thought it was going to be like, I guess I was taking it more literally. I definitely figured it was something in the vagina, that she was like, something. I just. I've eating something out of vagina. Like, I just. I didn't think this is anyone else calling that this. Is this their own little special thing?

[Raina Greenberg]

I think is Fruity Pebbles responded. I think she did. Don't drag us into this. Legos is like, we don't want to be the White House. And Fruity Pebbles is like, don't associate us with your urination kink, please.

[Ashley Hess]

That's so true.

[Raina Greenberg]

Like, Legos.

[Ashley Hess]

Your move. Did you know?

[Raina Greenberg]

So Jesse did like a.

[Ashley Hess]

She just.

[Raina Greenberg]

She's unhinged. She did 20 Instagram story slides. I recorded it for you just in case you want to see it.

[Ashley Hess]

I do.

[Raina Greenberg]

And they're just going back and forth. I mean, I live for these reality TV people that just continue it 100% in front of us. I love it.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. A million. I mean, I. I want to watch a couple fight on the street. I'll follow you. 12 blocks is my max. Like, I will follow. I want to see people's drama. We're all voyeurs in that way.

[Raina Greenberg]

Demi's become like, so hated and it's like she has so much egg on her face because, listen, she says who knows what's true? But basically everyone else says that she tried to strong arm the producers to giving her three times what the other girls make that. She's the star, she's the most likable. She wasn't Taylor. Frankie Paul is the queen of all of that.

[Ashley Hess]

But.

[Raina Greenberg]

And Whitney secondarily, definitely not to me. But she said she was a fan favorite, tried to start, and essentially ended up leaving the show. But the entire third season is about her. Like, she really could have gotten her bag and like, she looks pretty stupid now.

[Ashley Hess]

Okay, well, thanks for explaining that. And we're just gonna talk about our remaining partners and then we will jump into some headlines.

[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

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[Raina Greenberg]

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[Ashley Hess]

We are just going to give you guys the headlines. We have some good ones. And then we will send you off.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay, first up, Luigi Mangioni is in court. This is pretrial. So these are hearings just to determine what evidence is admissible. Which I think is so funny because I'm like, is anybody arguing that he did this? All we did it.

[Ashley Hess]

All the Internet knows is new photos. Just dropped.

[Raina Greenberg]

New suit photos. Babe, wake up.

[Ashley Hess]

Luigi's in a suit. Yep. Why is he getting hotter in prison?

[Raina Greenberg]

He looks, looks younger.

[Ashley Hess]

He looks.

[Raina Greenberg]

His eyebrows look great. Like, he looks positively sprightly.

[Ashley Hess]

Has he been at the spa? What pri. What a prison is he in? Oh, no. So anyway, that's really it. Nothing that new in terms of the trial, but just that we got new picks. Tis the season. This was last year around this time when it happened, when it was just like.

[Raina Greenberg]

Remember we were recording that. I was just grabbing my tit the whole time we were talking. I think you get too horny.

[Ashley Hess]

And you guys know how we feel. Obviously we don't condone murder and we talked about this last year on the episode. But anyway, new Luigi pics are out. Take a look.

And Also as of two days ago, the Diddy documentary is out. Produced by 50 Cent. So we all know they've had this long standing beef. Maybe we'll dive into it a little bit later next week. I'll watch some of it. But 50 Cent has been producing this for, for years. He's been collecting info. I saw Josh Johnson doing a stand up bit that he's been collecting 10 years of info and like details about Diddy. So it didn't just start with all the allegations recently, but it does focus on that. And there's all this never before seen footage. So they have footage of like Diddy like on a call, like days before the arrest. And it's like, how did he get this? And so Diddy has come out and said like, that's illegal. He can't use this. And 50 Cent says that he obtained the footage legally through a filmmaker. They've tried to conceal the filmmaker's identity. And he says that Diddy has always been obsessed with filming himself. So there's just so much footage out there and they're using it for this documentary. So it's this four part documentary called the Reckoning and it's out. And they. I mean, they've had this. We've talked about it before. They're like, they've had a beef for forever.

[Raina Greenberg]

50 Cent is always on the right side of history. He also had a long standing beef with Randall Emmett, who turned out to be the biggest scumbag of all. Not as big as Diddy, but he's just. He'd been known for 10 years. He's been making this. Is that like a joke that Josh Johnson said, or is it real?

[Ashley Hess]

I was looking like, he's only been technically making this since 2023, but has he been gathering info for 10 years? Like, he's had this beef with him for so long. And I was looking it up like when it all started. And they've had issues like 50 Cent accused him of.

Being involved in the Biggie murders. But one of the main things that really incited the beef was so many years ago, Diddy asked to take 50 shopping and he thought that was gay. So he just made it his life's work to take him down, like shopping.

[Raina Greenberg]

To, like groom him.

[Ashley Hess]

He was just like, I want to take you shopping. And 50 was like, that's weird as hell. And like, it's been like that ever since. How? I know.

[Raina Greenberg]

Yes, tell me, tell me you're a sex predator without telling me.

[Ashley Hess]

I know. It's like 50 always kind of knew something was off, obviously. So. Sean Combs, the Reckoning is this four part documentary. It says by Emmy and Grammy Award winning executive producer Curtis Jackson.

[Raina Greenberg]

It's a level of petty I aspire to.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. So that's out. Check it out.

[Raina Greenberg]

Okay. And Whitney Levitt. Mormon Wives is confirmed for Broadway for the musical Chicago. She's playing Roxie Hart. I think I'm gonna go see it. You know, I don't care about musicals. It's the number one that I actually care about. I'm obsessed with the movie. I know all the songs. Like, this is a pretty huge big deal. She came back to Mormon Wives Season 3 and said, the only reason I am here is because Dancing with the Stars wants somebody from the cast of Mormon Wives. Oh, wow. On next season. And she was very open about it. That is the only reason why I'm talking to you guys. I don't really want anything to do with you. That's why I'm here.

[Ashley Hess]

Interesting.

[Raina Greenberg]

She got it and went all the Way to the end. I think she was eliminated right before the finale. So not the runner up, but what's it like? The runner up before the.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, she. There was four left in the finale. I watched it. Haven't watched all season. I watched the finale. I wanted to see it. So she got eliminated before that. People were really upset. So they did her final dance on Call Her Daddy. Did you see this? Yeah. That's so brilliant. So Call Her Daddy to this exclusive. And Whitney and her partner got to do their freestyle dance, and now she's going to be in Chicago. She brilliant.

[Raina Greenberg]

This was the most, like, image turnaround I've ever seen. She's the most hated on Mormon Wives. Oh, really? I don't know. And people really hate her. And I saw this meme. This person was just saying, like, I don't know how to explain it. The person I hate the most on Mormon Wives is Whitney. And the person I root the most for on Dance with the Stars is Whitney.

[Ashley Hess]

That's so fascinating.

[Raina Greenberg]

She's just. I don't know. People really got into this season of Dance with the Stars more than any other season. Alix Earle was, like, a huge draw also. Like, people just got really into it.

[Ashley Hess]

I was rooting for Alex or Winnie. For Alex. I don't know. She just. I have a lot of thoughts on Dancing with the Stars and, like, I feel for these people when it's over and it just, like, takes over their lives. Like, plan a wedding.

[Raina Greenberg]

You know, they move here. They, like, move here for it. They have to train.

[Ashley Hess]

I get it every day. They all have, like, a real comedown after it. And I understand. Okay, so Alex, Earl. So people were saying that her and Braxton may be broken up or on the rocks because he wasn't there. And it was a. It was a Tuesday, wasn't it? Like, you don't. Do you need to be at football for a Sunday game on a Tuesday? Like, why couldn't he be there? That's what they're.

[Raina Greenberg]

So there have been speculation that they've been broken up since the beginning of the summer. So they did live together in Miami. He got traded to Houston. He moved to Houston, and she was sort of living with him. But she did a lot of stuff all summer long. Was in all these places. He was never in any of the videos. And at the end of the summer, she did a video at his house. Like, I'm back. We're back together. We're fine. And then he wasn't at this. I don't know. I hate to Say it, but like Travis Kelce found a way during the season to be at the ERAS tour in other countries all the time.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, I have no idea what's going on in that relationship. I always thought they were really cute and I root for them, but they just may not. If they're broken up, then that's life.

[Raina Greenberg]

They're young.

[Ashley Hess]

Maybe they're not a fit anymore. Or maybe it's just. I saw people saying she didn't want him there because she was gonna be nervous. It's like you want him there.

[Raina Greenberg]

I thought it was odd. I mean, Houston to la, but was it like hour and a half flights, two hours?

[Ashley Hess]

I don't think he. People like, it's during the season shot Sunday night. Exactly. Travis Kelsey was there.

[Raina Greenberg]

Everybody. It just goes to show everybody's different. Like standards for their relationship. Maybe she doesn't care. I can't imagine a person that doesn't care. But like, maybe it just doesn't matter her.

[Ashley Hess]

I don't know. It couldn't be me. You got to be there.

[Raina Greenberg]

You got to be there for every. Every dumb thing I do. You got to be there.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah. You have to be there. Braxton. Okay. The Oxford 2025 Word of the year is rage based. Appropriate. Yes, obviously. If it says if you're angry about it, that just proves the point. Can you imagine getting mad about that Oxford Telegraph? You're the problem.

[Raina Greenberg]

They dropped that hard.

[Ashley Hess]

This article on the New York Times. That's what they say. I want to credit them. I feel like I've seen a couple other. Does Webster do their own as opposed to Oxford? Yeah, like I saw another word of the year.

[Raina Greenberg]

This happens all the time to us.

[Ashley Hess]

Dictionary.com, it was 6, 7.

[Raina Greenberg]

Do you understand?

[Ashley Hess]

Okay. I don't know.

[Raina Greenberg]

You haven't mean to talk to you about six, seven.

[Ashley Hess]

I try not to talk about it. I just. I'm in a group chat with my friends with kids and they talk. They just like drag their kids.

[Raina Greenberg]

It doesn't mean anything.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, I've known about since the summer.

[Raina Greenberg]

I. When people are like, oh, it doesn't mean anything. You guys are so stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid for perpetuating the thing that doesn't mean anything.

[Ashley Hess]

Kids are kids. Kids are gonna be kids. The point is that they do have their own lingo and parents aren't supposed to know about it.

[Raina Greenberg]

Let them have their own little thing.

[Ashley Hess]

Yeah, okay. Lastly, one that's a headline that's especially meaningful to me is the Belgian sheepdog Soleil takes Best in show at the 2025 National Dog Show. So this is a jet black dog, just like Azul, this Belgian sheepdog. It's a lady. And I'm gonna just tell you a few stats. So typically, black dogs don't always win. We're a black dog family. We. I prefer a black dog. Yes. Herding dogs typically don't win. The last time a dog from the herding group won it was 2007. And a quote from the article says, what I really love to see is a female do that well in a field that's usually dominated by the males. And that's what makes it so, well, deserving for her. So Soleil is out here. Just congrats. Yeah. Women's empowerment. Azul's new celeb crush. I just love this dog. I just didn't expect. Expect to see it like a. A dog that looks like my dog. I'm excited for you guys win. Yeah. For our family. So those are your headlines, you guys. Congrats to Soleil. Doing a lot for all the female herders out there. Okay, well, that is your snack. You guys know where to find us. Girls gotta eat.com tickets to our holiday show in New York next weekend, December 13th, Saturday night. Get those tickets again. Girls gotta eat dot com. Girls gotta eat Podcast and Instagram and TikTok. I am Ash Hess. Raina is Raina Greenberg. Subscribe on YouTube. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

[Raina Greenberg]

Have a good weekend, guys.

[Ashley Hess]

Bye.

Sam.