The Snack: Wuthering Heights, Tell Me Lies Finale, and Olympic Confessions

Summary

Girls Gotta Eat: The Snack

Episode: Wuthering Heights, Tell Me Lies Finale, and Olympic Confessions
Date: February 19, 2026
Hosts: Ashley Hesseltine & Rayna Greenberg
(Dear Media Production)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Snack takes listeners through a lively pop culture round-up, featuring a comedic deep-dive into the new Wuthering Heights movie adaptation, reactions to the Tell Me Lies finale, Olympic hookup culture news, and more. Ashley and Rayna bring their signature blend of candid humor and girl-talk energy, discussing everything from the state of sex in Olympic villages, confessions in sports, quirky “personal Olympic sports,” and current TV. They also serve as your hilarious guides through cultural controversies and trending stories—with a few personal anecdotes thrown in for spice.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Anniversary & Live Show Announcement

[00:36 – 03:33]

• The hosts joke about the podcast’s ongoing anniversary celebration: “Happy real anniversary. February 19th. The day we introduced Girls Gotta Eat to the world. Here we are eight years later. Finally.” (Rayna, 00:36)
• Announcement: Official Girls Gotta Eat show at Netflix is a Joke Fest in LA, May 7, Palace Theater. Pre-sale code is “Azul.” Pre-sale and tickets details at girlsgottaeat.com.
• "It's gonna be all the things you love and know of Girls Gotta Eat. But different." (Rayna, 02:03)

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2. Olympic Village Runs Out of Condoms (Again)

[03:42 – 06:12]

• Recap of news that the 2026 Olympic village ran out of condoms due to “higher than anticipated demand,” mirroring previous Olympics.
• Discussion on why this keeps happening and jokes about athletes “super-breeding.”
  • Notable Quote: “If we fuck each other but then go raw dog? That is so funny. Because the average person would be like, I'm definitely not using a condom with an Olympic athlete. I'm trying to get those genes.” (Rayna, 05:02)
  • “I don't even use [condoms] with broke comedians. Imagine how crazy I would act with Olympians.” (Ashley, 05:12)
• Suggestion for sponsorship (“Trojan should just do it”), and the comedic notion that the Olympic scandals and sex stories are more interesting than the sports themselves.

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3. Olympic Athlete’s Wild On-Air Confession

[06:12 – 10:26]

• Norwegian biathlete Sterla Holm Lagreed’s post-bronze speech: admits tearfully to cheating on his girlfriend live on TV.
• Analysis of how men/women would handle such a moment; humor at men’s emotional reactions.
  • “A woman would never humiliate herself like this. Let you take away from my special day. Oh, by the way, I cheated and my boyfriend left me.” (Ashley, 07:56)
• Debate: would you forgive a public apology if you were the ex?
  • “If I'm her, and I'm watching this and I'm pining for him, maybe I'd give it another chance. Three months in. Maybe I'd give another chance.” (Ashley, 10:18)
• Questioning whether athletes in “chaotic” events (like biathlon) are “built different.”

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4. French Figure Skating Duo Controversy

[10:26 – 13:16]

• Ashley recaps beef around a French ice dance pair called “sinister” for allegedly being awarded gold over Team USA.
• Backstories: male skater’s allegedly toxic behavior (former partner terrified to be alone with him), female skater’s past standing by a boyfriend accused of sexual assault; together they’re “the duo everyone loves to hate.”
• Commentary on figure skater stereotypes and competitiveness.

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5. Double Luge (and Sexy Olympic Sports)

[13:16 – 15:06]

• Listeners share that in double luge, the shorter person is always on the bottom; this launches a playful riff about personal experiences and who would be top/bottom if Rayna and Ashley luge together (Halloween costume idea included).

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6. If This Were an Olympic Sport, I Would Win

[15:06 – 21:23]

• Both hosts devise tongue-in-cheek “Olympic gold medal” sports unique to their personalities, poking fun at themselves and each other.
  • Ashley: making playlists, diagnosing herself over doctors, exposing liars, blasting trolls online, comedic skiing ("legendary"), and talking during TV.
  • Rayna: falling asleep instantly, endless to-do lists with minimal completion, returning packages as her “kink,” not learning from mistakes (esp. with men), “making everything about me,” “yapli” (nonstop talking), laughing at her own and Ashley's jokes.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “If self-involvement was an Olympic sport, I would win. The gold, silver, and bronze.” (Rayna, 19:24)
    • “When I decide to put someone on blast, they gotta go. They are in witness protection.” (Ashley, 19:37)
  • Memorable moment: Ashley’s “comedic skiing” mishaps—skiing into a school of kids, taking out friends, referenced via a family group chat.
• Segues into TV-watching habits: Ashley’s tendency to ask questions during shows (“Should I have picked up on something or is it going to unfold? …I guess I am doubting myself.” [Ashley, 25:16])

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7. Pop Culture Round-Up: TV & Movie Reviews

[31:08 – 43:19]

a) Wuthering Heights (2026 Movie, with Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi)

• Both hosts came in blind, didn’t read the book or even watch the trailer, which led to genuine reactions.
• Movie only covers half the book and is a highly modernized adaptation (“Wuthering Heights” is in quotation marks on the poster).
• Rayna: “I want to go on record and say this is one of my favorite movies… in the last couple years. I loved it. The acting was amazing. The costumes were incredible… It was sexy and beautiful and deep and moving. I woke up with an emotional hangover.” (Rayna, 33:46)
• Modern touch: Charli XCX’s soundtrack, anachronistic costuming (e.g. latex). Music is a highlight for both.
  • Ashley: “The music… I'm not gonna say it made the movie, but it really was such a part of why I found it wonderful… Charlie XCX just went all the way off.” (35:53)
• Comparison to The Notebook (“so many parallels!”) and deconstruction of the tragic ending/foreshadowing.
• Discussion of adaptation liberties (“I don’t care if you take liberties with a book from 1847.” – Rayna, 41:58) and excitement to (maybe?) read the original.
• Both highly recommend the movie.

b) Tell Me Lies (Series Finale)

• Emotional reactions—Ashley especially furious with finale message, particularly in the current sociopolitical climate:
  • “The end of the show is that terrible men can get away with murder. Literally. Read the fucking room, Megan Oppenheimer… If you want to end the show with your female protagonist in a gas station humiliated in a bridesmaid’s dress… But in this climate, all these men, all these abusers, literally ride off into the sunset, and this woman is in the parking lot of a gas station, like, humiliated.” (Ashley, 46:53)
• Key critique: Male abusers face no consequences; Lucy (lead) left “humiliated and weak.”
• Rayna agrees, criticizes “punishment doesn’t fit the crime for Lucy.”
• Discussion on adaptation vs. book—book gives Lucy more closure and empowerment.
• Resolution: Show still worth watching for its two strong initial seasons, but both are disappointed in the final message.

c) Love Is Blind: Ohio

[54:03 – 57:13]

• Reactions to the show’s more “wholesome” cast; much less drama than prior seasons.
• Ashley provides detailed predictions for which couples will last.
• Not a lot of doppelganger (“lookalike”) content this season, and both note the pod formula can be repetitive.
• “Problem at the beginning is the problem at the end”—Ashley’s succinct (“kids or no kids”) marriage predictions.

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8. Headlines: Celebrity & Industry News

[57:14 – 64:08]

• Camp Star’s Hudson Williams “hard launches” his long-term girlfriend—debate over ambiguity re: sexuality and role-modeling for the LGBTQ+ community (“I don’t think you owe people information about your sexuality…” – Rayna, 58:18).
• Justin Baldoni & Blake Lively—court hearing on settlement, no resolution; trial set for May.
• Chapel Roan leaves Wasserman Agency over Casey Wasserman’s past flirtatious ties to Ghislaine Maxwell/Epstein circle (“He has issued an apology… he took ownership of it. I’m not defending it guys… I can’t even talk about the Epstein files without going into a deep dark depression.” – Ashley, 61:08)

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Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 05:02 | Rayna | “I’m definitely not using a condom with an Olympic athlete. I’m trying to get those genes.” | | 07:56 | Ashley | “A woman would never humiliate herself like this. Let you take away from my special day.” | | 19:24 | Rayna | “If self-involvement was an Olympic sport, I would win. The gold, silver, and bronze.” | | 19:37 | Ashley | “When I decide to put someone on blast, they gotta go. They are in witness protection.” | | 33:46 | Rayna | “This is one of my favorite movies. I loved it. The acting was amazing… It was sexy and beautiful and deep and moving.” | | 35:53 | Ashley | “The music… Charli XCX just went all the way off. I was like, Taylor Swift could never.” | | 46:53 | Ashley | “The end of the show is that terrible men can get away with murder. Literally. Read the fucking room, Megan Oppenheimer…” |

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Additional Pop Culture Notes

• Upcoming shows on Girls Gotta Eat: Bridgerton season, JFK & Carolyn (“Love Story” on FX).
• Next week promises more “romantic” content and possible live double-luge demonstration.

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Takeaways for Non-Listeners

• Wuthering Heights (2026): Bold, modern, music-driven adaptation highly recommended by both hosts—no need to be a Brontë purist.
• Tell Me Lies: Series suffered in its finale; left lead female character disempowered, with abusers unpunished; a commentary on gender in TV storytelling.
• Olympic Confessions: Athlete sex culture remains a topic of laughs and genuine social commentary. Biathlete confession and sports drama highlight gendered double standards.
• Quirky Personality Olympics: The hosts playfully invent “sports” at which only they could win, adding comedic relatability.

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Closing

For more, or to buy tickets to the upcoming live show, visit girlsgottaeat.com and their social platforms.

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Transcript

[A]

This week on the snack Withering Heights.

[B]

Raina, it's Wuthering. And you say you've been writing Withering for weeks.

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Wuthering does not roll off the tongue. This week on the snack allegedly Wuthering.

[B]

I. Wuthering. How do you say it?

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Wuthering. Wuthering. Wuthering.

[B]

Leave this all in here. Should all be in here.

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This is crazy. You do it.

[B]

This week on the snack Wuthering Heights, the Tell Me Lies finale. And the Olympic village runs out of condoms.

[A]

This is the Dear Media production. Enjoy the.

[B]

Anyway, guys, Happy real anniversary. February 19th. The day we introduced Girls Gotta Eat the world. Here we are eight years later. Finally.

[A]

They're like, this has been three episodes in a row. Girl, we don't care.

[B]

Ten days.

[A]

I mean honestly, this would be a lot for the 10 year episode.

[B]

No, I was wondering because in when you were writing stuff down it said withering and I was like, that's fine. She'll figure it out eventually. And then we saw the movie and you still didn't figure it out.

[A]

I was 1 hour ago years old when I learned it was Weing. Wuthering.

[B]

Wuthering.

[A]

Fuck that.

[B]

We learned it wasn't we?

[A]

Okay. Also we went and saw the movie last night which we will talk about. But as we were. I was like, am I going to tell Ashley I don't know anything about this movie? Like we went with our friend Taylor who was so excited and I was like, am I going to tell her that I don't even. I can't even float and I don't want to.

[B]

Can you save it? Because I really want to talk about this. Going into movies, but so blind and what we wore. And also love is blind today as well. It was a whole theme.

[A]

It's a blind episode.

[B]

But we have a really fun announcement for you guys.

[A]

You guys, we are so excited to tell you this. Especially because we moved our LA show over the holidays and we were building towards another show here. So we are very excited to announce that we are doing the Netflix is a joke festival at the Palace Theater May 7. It'll be a Girls Gotta eat show. We are so excited in LA. So 7pm Great theater. That's it. We just. We really can't wait. Today the pre sale starts. It's going to be all the things you love and know of Girls Got to eat.

[B]

But different. I mean it's not going to be what you have seen in the past. Getting some fun special guests. I mean everyone is going to be in town for this festival. It's so huge. It's every comedian you've ever heard of does this festival. And so we are just so excited. We've been waiting on this announcement to be able to tell you guys. And we were so sad to have to postpone the show back in December. So this is for you guys, especially in LA that we're going to come to that. Hope you can make it. And like Raina said, Thursday, May 7 and pre sale is now. If it asks you for a pre sale code, it's going to be Azul. So A Z U L, just use that. And if you're listening to this and it's already on sale, on sale. Then you don't need the code. So either way.

[A]

And you can get that at Netflix is the jokefest.com or on our website. We'll have that there as well. Girls gotta eat dot com. We really encourage you guys to come out to LA for this festival in general. Every performer is. Is here. May in LA is wonderful. We're gonna kick off the weekend Thursday night. So it's just a great reason to come to LA in general. Spend the weekend, see a bunch of your favorite performers. You can check them all out on the website after you buy tickets to our show.

[B]

Yes, buy our tickets first. And it's great. I mean it's. The show will be the Palace Theater. It's so gorgeous. It's downtown. There's so many amazing restaurants down there. So just make a night out of it. And like Raina said, if you are coming in for the show or even if you live here, just take, you know, every night of the week, just a few nights and go see a show. I mean, you're not gonna ever. There is no bigger comedy festival that's ever existed. Literally. Truly. It's not an exaggeration.

[A]

If anybody's ever done comedy, they're here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we're really excited to do that with you guys. And you have been at a bunch of my shows, almost every single one of my shows at the beginning of the tour. But I haven't shared a stage with you in a while. I'm really excited about it.

[B]

Yes. It's gonna be so fun. We can't wait. Okay, so we are gonna kick it off with another Olympics report because news and Teague still keeps coming out. And this first news story, right? How many people sent this to you? Literally, it's. I don't know, like there's certain things that people like send us both in the DMS and are tagging us and this Was the most in a while.

[A]

So it's a tie right now for memes about the double luge.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And this, which is that the Olympic village ran out of condoms at the 2026 Games due to higher than anticipated demand.

[B]

How.

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Why did you guys think. Why did you not anticipate more? They ran out last year. People are at the Olympics.

[B]

Yes. We just talked about this. This was two years ago, right? Summer 2024. Summer Olympics. We did a whole episode on it. And was this what happened then? Was this.

[A]

Yeah, same exact thing.

[B]

Same exact thing.

[A]

Well, there was all this stuff about the housing and how it was like, not great. But yes, immediately ran out of condoms.

[B]

Is this the safest sex community out there or are they just a lot? Also, you really need to treat your body right. Like, you can't be risking anything at the Olympics. So this probably is like the safest sex community. The Olympic athletes.

[A]

You're so right. Also, I think a lot of these people want to, like, super breed athletes. You know, they're like, we. How could we not produce more athletes.

[B]

If we fuck each other but then go raw dog? That is so funny. Because the average person would be like, I'm definitely not using a condom with an Olympic athlete. I'm trying to get those jeans.

[A]

I don't even use them with broke comedians. Imagine how crazy I would act with Olympians.

[B]

You would never. So. So they need to step it up. Adam Rippon posted something funny. He was like, I used a ball or something. Like, I'm the reason for the shortage.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

Yeah. Let's hope in two years. Which will be here, right? Is it 2028?

[A]

2028. The Olympic summer. In the summer.

[B]

Okay. Let's hope they get more condoms. They should get a condom sponsorship. Do they not? Like, who wouldn't want that sponsorship? We're the Olympic condom brand.

[A]

Do you think? I mean, Trojan would be happy to do it.

[B]

Well, in Trojan, I feel like there's there was a usc that's our mascot. Like, this is. Feels like a lot of synergy for Trojan to be the condom sponsor for the 2028.

[A]

It might just be too horny. The Olympics don't want to, like, advertise it. But it is honestly, like, I don't really watch the Olympics and I wouldn't even know that they were happening if it wasn't for, like, the scandals and the sex. Like, who cares about the actual sports? So, like, condoms is where it's at. That's how you get me to watch.

[B]

Okay, so the Next thing. This happened right after we recorded last and so many people sent it to us. And we're so sad that we missed it, but there are a few updates. So this Norwegian biathlete. Insane. We talked about the biathlon last week, which is skiing and shooting. So this guy won the bronze. This guy, Sterla Holm Lagreed.

[A]

You did a good job with that.

[B]

Thanks. I don't. Yeah, I'm doing my best. Today he won a bronze medal in the men's biathlon. And in his acceptance speech, I guess he tearfully admitted that he cheated on his girlfriend of six months, whom he called the love of his life. It was basically like, if there's one person today I'm thinking about, it's her. And basically I've cheated on her and I regret it and I want her back. But I think he's also. This was being translated. He spoke it in his native language.

[A]

Yes, I saw the translation.

[B]

He. It sounded like they were together for three months and then he cheated on her three months in. I mean, it's someone he wasn't with that long. And he's like, this is so like a man. Like, I met this woman and I wasn't with her that long and I cheated on her. And I want. She's the one that got away.

[A]

He went on national television. I'm not quite myself today. I'm not thinking clearly. My apologies for other people who deserve the gold. It also goes to my ex girlfriend who involuntarily end up in the media spotlight. I mean, it is crazy what he, like, thrust into the spotlight.

[B]

What?

[A]

You can't get through like 30 seconds on television without bringing this up.

[B]

When people say women are too emotional. A woman, especially a woman Olympic athlete, would literally never. You can't even picture this.

[A]

If you said so, right?

[B]

If you said, who's gonna do this after they win a medal? A man or a woman? Man hands. A woman would never do this, would.

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Never humiliate herself like this. Let you take away from my special day. Oh, by the way, I cheated and my boyfriend left me.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

A woman would never do something that stupid.

[B]

Literally.

[A]

So when you're too emotional to lead. Oh, okay. What was his excuse?

[B]

Also, someone who does that sport is a little unhinged. Anyway, we've decided someone who gets into biathlon is built different. Like, he's a little crazy. Like someone that's like, I want to ski and then shoot guns on the skis. Like, obviously he's going to do something.

[A]

Also. It's true. Like, I Think they sound fun. I think they just sound so chaotic. They're like, one. One talent's not enough. I need to do both at the same time. That is, who's going to get on TV and be like, I cheated. I also wonder, like, okay, let me ask.

[B]

Sports not enough. Like, someone who does a biathlon is going to cheat because one. Sports not.

[A]

They're going to announce that they cheated.

[B]

Skiing is not enough. I got to shoot adhd.

[A]

Like, he can't just, like, focus on one thing, One woman. Yes. Wait. Can I ask you a question? I'm curious how you would feel, okay. If you had dated a man for three months and he cheated on you and he won the Olympics or whatever the fuck, and then he got on TV and was like, I would like to use this time to apologize to Ashley. If he humiliated himself and be like, are you screaming? Would you forgive it? Screaming, no.

[B]

I'd be like, I would have such an ick.

[A]

You would have that he'd be a man. You would have that won an Olympic medal.

[B]

I don't know, though. I mean, it's not. He's not doing what he thinks he's doing. It's not the grand gesture he thinks it is. And he has since said that he deeply regrets it. That's the latest news, is that he said that he does regret this story on this, what was a festive day for his country. Also, you know, I think he feels.

[A]

Like he embarrassed his coach, his teammates, all the other gunmen.

[B]

I mean, this is a story I would tell the rest of my life. I would love to be this woman she saw.

[A]

She should be a comedian.

[B]

I just love. She's probably with her new man watching, like, he's a joke now in their relationship.

[A]

You couldn't forgive it because you would just be so turned off.

[B]

I mean, if. If I still was pining for him, maybe. But I don't know. Again, like, we. Cheating is nuanced. I just. Again, it's not. Not saying it's okay. I don't know what went down between these two. They were a newer couple, but I don't know what the details are. But if I'm her and I'm watching this and I'm pining for him and feeling the same way. Yeah, maybe I'd give it another chance.

[A]

Three months in. Maybe I'd give another chance. You know, like, right.

[B]

It wasn't his wife.

[A]

Six months, his wife, mother of his children. Different totally. Then I'd be like, can you just keep it to yourself? Now you're Embarrassing the family.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And lastly, we have this, this controversy with this French figure skating duo who took home the gold.

[A]

So I don't know about this.

[B]

You told me not to read it. Yeah, so. Well, I just told you I had done my research and I wanted I could educate you on it. So people are calling them sinister. They have sinister energy. That's what Adam Rippon said also. So they won the. The gold over the Team USA couple that everybody really thought would win. Like, in terms of the performance was just better. No. Whatever you think about these countries, we don't really deserve much these days. But like the French ice skaters performance was flawed. The USA performance was perfect. Madison Chalk and Evan Bates, and they're saying this French judge was just showing favoritism. And they're really controversial. I. I didn't know about this couple. And I really want to watch this Netflix documentary, Glitter and Gold, that's all about preparing for the Olympics. I kind of wish I would have watched it now, but it's on my list. And so the guy in the duo, they're not a couple. He was with this other French ice skater, and she said he was so toxic. She said he had blood chilling cold. And she refused to skate with him. She wouldn't skate with him without a coach present during their storied career. Terrified by the idea of finding myself alone with him. That's what she says. His former partner.

[A]

Because he just seems like so scared.

[B]

Scary dude. Right? So that's the male. Ciserone is his last name. And obviously they stopped skating together. They were a former duo. And then the woman in the group has been trying to bounce back from her own controversy. So she used to skate. Skate with her boyfriend, who then was suspended for allegedly sexually assaulting another skater. And she stood by his side the whole time and like, defended him and was like, I know him and he would never. And so both of them, this guy who's supposed to be this like, scary, toxic dude and this woman who stood by the sexual assaulter teamed up.

[A]

And wasn't that the first time, like, the people had skated in the Olympics together after not skating. Skating together for all?

[B]

Yeah. He had recently retired. And the fact that they were like these controversial, I mean, hated probably by some duo that were like, we're gonna do this together now. And then they won and they shouldn't have. People are pissed. I get it.

[A]

I'm so curious. Like, okay, so it says he's like, sinister and blood chilling and scary. Like, it doesn't surprise me that that would be an ice skater. I don't know why. Like, I think that there's only, like, two camps, like, super flamboyant man. Or I can see them being just, like, really, like, looking like Alexander Skarsgrd and just, like, really serious.

[B]

100% a French figure skater. I don't want to be alone with him either. Without a coach president.

[A]

I want to be alone with the double luge people.

[B]

Yeah. 100%. Oh, my God. I forgot to tell you. A few people messaged me about the double luge and told me that the shorter person is always on the bottom.

[A]

Wait, I'm glad you brought this up, because I was in a room with you the other day with somebody that I slept with, and I was like. I was like, we did that last night. He was like, funny thing about this. I made her be on the bottom. And, yeah, it made me laugh so hard. Because he's so big.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But it is, like, a thing. No.

[B]

If you and I did it. Here goes.

[A]

Rand.

[B]

I was thinking to her, and I would be on the double. Ooh, she's thinking her in this.

[A]

Remember that time that you thought that you. And when you said the.

[B]

We're the new we. But yes, if you and I did it, like, because you see them and the person on the top, their legs are hanging off so far off the lower. So the person would be on the.

[A]

Bottom is just the stump.

[B]

Kind of. Yes. It's, like, kind of degrading.

[A]

The long.

[B]

The taller person's. Like, their legs are steering. I don't know. I think they.

[A]

You're the cock on the bottom. The shorter person is just like the mantle.

[B]

It's crazy. I do think you can't be shorter and much thinner. Like, if you're going to be on the bottom, I think you can't be crushed by the person.

[A]

I can't decide what makes more sen. Because, like, obviously on the top. I can't steer on the top if I'm shorter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, like, what would I add to it other than just weighing you down?

[B]

It makes sense.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

When you look at it, you're like, oh, that makes sense. You see their legs hanging off. You're like, this makes sense. But it's just very funny. Like, you and me. I can't. That should be our Halloween costume.

[A]

That'd be the most we ever touched. Full body contact. Just neck to feet. Full body contact. Do you put your head directly on top of their head? Where do their heads look A little bit.

[B]

The head's down a little bit.

[A]

The heads are side by side.

[B]

No, they're down a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, oh.

[A]

They're not stacked.

[B]

So you're. You're hanging off even more.

[A]

The taller person's head is below.

[B]

Is, like, in the neck. Yeah. Wow. I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure. That photo we showed last week during the episode, the Team USA photo.

[A]

Okay. So we decided to take the Olympics into our own hands and say, if this was an Olympic sport, I would win.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I. Like, I have some that I think you would win.

[B]

And I did some for me.

[A]

Honestly, as I was doing this, I was like, am I the problem? Am I so chaotic? Because I was like, the ones I came up with, I was like, I'm.

[B]

Yeah, I did come up with some for you, but I don't think I'm authorized to say them on air. Like, I don't want to out you.

[A]

Oh, you can. Are they going to hurt my feelings?

[B]

No, they're not mean.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's problematic, you guys. I can't.

[A]

So I have ones that are, like, less spicy. So obviously falling asleep the second my eyes close.

[B]

That's just a brag.

[A]

I know. I know it is. I'm so good at it. Okay, so less spicy ones. Is that writing to do lists? And I write, like, 25 things every single day. I do, like, three of them.

[B]

Reina. Geez, these are so edgy. I just. I didn't know you were gonna go this direction.

[A]

These aren't that edgy. These aren't my edgy ones yet.

[B]

I'm being sarcastic. Being sarcastic is mine.

[A]

And returning packages, you know, it's like my favorite thing.

[B]

It's your kink.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, you're good at it, but it's also your kink. My least spicy one is playlists. Playlist queen. Everybody knows it. Even, like, your playlist for your shows. You've used me as inspo. Yeah. Diagnosing myself and dunking on doctors and appointments.

[A]

You are my doctor. You are so good at this.

[B]

Again, I never want to insult. Doctors have dedicated their life to their profession, but I have had three incidents now where I have been in an appointment. The doctor doesn't know what's going on. And I diagnose myself, and I am right, and they are wrong.

[A]

I don't think anybody's listening to this. Like, justice for doctors.

[B]

No, but I just don't. You know, I always want to be like. Like, I.

[A]

Sometimes I feel like nurse is different.

[B]

Doctors, doctors, therapists. Like, I don't want to be like, we're better than what you've dedicated your life to. But in some cases, I be dunking on these doctors in appointments, especially that one 12 year old Dr. At urgent care.

[A]

I mean, you're just also, you're just going to go harder on medical information than I am. Like, I'm just not going to dig that deep. Like, you will solve the disease.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They should give you cancer. Like to not have to solve.

[B]

Okay. To solve.

[A]

Okay. Not learning from my mistakes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do you write that about me?

[B]

I just figured that's what I was kind of like alluding to.

[A]

Definitely men. I do think with family, with friends, with work, I am amazing.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

I really am. I am excellent in every category. But with men, I really do always come back for.

[B]

Mm, another one of mine. Figuring out if someone is lying and specifically finding the smoking God. This is my favorite thing to do. Like something happened recently where your jaw was dropped. When I pieced this. This together, believe it. To figure out how someone had really crafted this elaborate lie and I realized they were lying. I mean, this is. I always say this. I want. I should have been a private investigator in a former life. Like I really want to like interrogate people, but I really have a knack for figuring out where someone's lying and like exactly where.

[A]

I mean, listen, I have a moral compass, but that's also why I don't lie to you. Because there's no point. I know it will come up someday. You will start piecing all this stuff together.

[B]

I don't really think it won't be worth it. There's people out there that have gotten away with a lie with me.

[A]

I mean, you just really, you will go deep. What you figured out recently was one of the crazier things that I've ever. I mean, you really like bested a pathological liar. She really thought she ate down with that one.

[B]

Yeah. Like I remember, like I was. Remember when cereal came out, I was just like, this is like my kink is to have figured all this out. Like all the craziness with. And that was a different time. But like the cell phone towers and all this stuff. I was like, yes, duh. Like I would have figured this out.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Making everything about me, even though the story doesn't have anything to do with me. So anytime somebody like tells me something, I'm like, so when this happened to me in a totally different situation, here's what I did. Like right now I feel that I do this a lot. And I think that, listen, I bring a lot of value to conversations. And I think that, like, we should give advice from history and past experiences and acknowledge this is only coming from my viewpoint and my lens. But I am very good at making things about me that have nothing to do with me.

[B]

Picture your painting of yourself.

[A]

And a close cousin to. This is just talking about myself.

[B]

Okay, yes, 100% Olympic yapplete.

[A]

I mean, I really. I mean, if self involvement was an Olympic sport, I would win.

[B]

No, you're a Yapli for sure. Yes.

[A]

The gold, silver and the bronze, they would be like, no one could compete in this round.

[B]

Okay, this is something that I don't do a lot, but when I do it, I am taking home the gold. And that is when I put trolls on blast and make them delete their accounts every single fucking time. When I decide to put someone on blast, they gotta go. They are in witness protection. I don't do it a lot. And one time I did it subtly. I was like, someone's in my comments right now. And I kind of said her name. I didn't tag her. And sure enough, I mean, within 30 minutes her account was gone.

[A]

And listen, that comes from years of being on the Internet and being funny, being a comedian, knowing how to negotiate with terrorists.

[B]

But, and I again, I don't take the bait very often, but I am very. Don't start. No shit. Won't be no shit. And I only do it when it's something really deserving. Someone that's really mean, really out of pocket.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

No, it's nice.

[B]

Once in a blue moon. Sick. The army on them.

[A]

My last one is just laughing at my own jokes.

[B]

And my jokes. Dana laughs at everything Ashley says. Yeah, we're best friends. Yeah, it's funny. Get a fucking best friend. What do you mean? Tell me you don't have a best friend.

[A]

Tell me your friend isn't funny.

[B]

You're funny.

[A]

I mean, I have so much fun on stage. Even if no one else is gonna laugh, I am gonna laugh.

[B]

100. I mean, that's really like such a good quality for being a comedian. Sometimes you gotta bring your own energy.

[A]

You know, Sometimes you have to let me know I'm not going to enjoy something. Sometimes I have to let people know that this is funny.

[B]

Yes. I'm not leaving to you guys laugh. Okay. My current husband said for me. I asked him what would be my Olympic sport. He said, asking questions during TV shows. Okay, okay, fine. Okay. My last one. This is an actual sport, but it's a little different variation on an Olympic sport. And this is comedic skiing. So anyone who's ever skied with me, there are not many people skiing.

[A]

When is the last time you went skiing?

[B]

That's what I'm saying. You don't even know about it. The few people that have been lucky enough to ski with me, it's a core memory of them almost peeing themselves, laughing in their snowsuit. I am the worst skier. It is hilarious, okay? And it is just. It's a hilarious experience. So this is just a casual group chat with Corey and Corey from the other day. I sent them this reel of someone skiing, like, poorly. Corey number one. Haha. I can still remember when you were picking up speed and you were not stopping. I was yelling, pizza, Pizza, Pizza. Turn your skis together like the shape of a pizza. OTHER Corey Every time I'd see Ashley, she'd be on the ground. Other Corey Was it your senior trip or the girls trip in the Poconos that Ashley skiing to a ski school? I can't remember if I saw it or I just heard about it. Other Corey oh my God. I think it was the girls trip. And I was like, haha. There was the ski school collision. And then when I took Corey down with me getting off the lift, and also when I dropped my pole, those were some of the highlights. Like, me, skiing is like legendary to the few people that know it. I've only skied a few times. And like, every time, like Reina, I got off the lift and just veered to the right and couldn't stop. And I skied into a whole ski school. Like there was an instructor in a circle of people, and I just was like, oh. And I went right through them, took two people out and landed in the middle of their circle.

[A]

Wait, you know, I did that to a family on bikes once. I wiped out the whole family.

[B]

You told me about this. You took out the whole family?

[A]

Family. I was like, they were coming towards me. I was like, I'm not gonna hit them. I'm not gonna hit them. Wipe the whole family out.

[B]

Like, I'm so bad, I get going too fast and I get scared. And it's just one day. Cory and I were skiing and we were going up the lift and she had like, fallen all day. She's both of them. Both Corys are great skiers. And these are my, like, two best friends from high school. And she hadn't fallen all day and we got off the lift together and I got my skis crossed with her skis. I took her down. Another time I again dropped my pole Going up the lift and she was like, take mine and I'll ski down without a pole. Like, literally. It was such a joke. So I think I'm fun to be around.

[A]

You are. Wait, let me just ask you because I don't really watch a lot of TV with you. I watch movies with you, but it's not less of an opportunity to talk in a movie theater. I didn't know you talk during TV shows. But it does make sense because if you guys ever try to read a book next to Ashley, she doesn't care. She doesn't give a fuck. She'll talk to you through the whole book. I've remember that whole flight I was like, I can't believe I'm doing this so good. I'm amazing. I'm a miracle. I read that book and talked to you for the whole time.

[B]

Yeah, well, you can like multitask.

[A]

I guess it's not my preferred method of reading a book.

[B]

So here's my issue with TV shows and movies. I don't. I'm not trying to talk in like a movie theater. Every once in a while I'll say something funny. I gotta tell you something. Like, even last night I was like, I had a few funny things. I had to get in there and we were giggling like three times. Whatever.

[A]

That didn't bother me.

[B]

I feel like I got short lived. Yes. I told this to Joffer the other night, who is our friend's boyfriend who is a director on Bridgerton. We'll mention him today. And I was like, my thing is with tv. Let's just say tv. I think I'm supposed to know something that I'm not yet. And my whole life, like Corey would tell Shashank, like, wait till you start watching stuff with Ashley. Cause you'll have to say to her, I'm watching the same show you are. Okay.

[A]

I will say it is really a jump scare when this happens though in shows and movies where you're like, euphoria, season one and two. I mean, it is like a hallmark of that show that they jump around a lot. And I'm always like, did I miss something? Did I miss something? And my brain does not automatically go to. They've jumped ahead and didn't give you the information. Why would somebody's brain jump ahead of that?

[B]

Here's the thing, I just. It's not even that, like I'm doubting myself. Like, I wasn't smart enough to pick up on this. I'm just like, sometimes I don't know, should I have picked up on something or is it gonna unfold? I think that's the thing. Like, I'm watching something and it hasn't unfolded yet. Stuff is happening and you're not supposed to know why. And that's where I'm like, did I miss something or should I know why? I guess I am doubting myself.

[A]

I blame myself. And that's strange because it's like I've been sitting here this whole time.

[B]

And in Bridgerton, there's this very specific part that something happens. And I thought I missed the lead up to it, and I rewound it all the way. And then they actually did a flashback in episode two. And I was talking to Joffre about this because I was like, I was so confused because this show typically doesn't do flashbacks. I know the show. It's one of my favorite shows. And he told me where the decision making came from. It was like a fascinating thing to hear him speak on it because they don't do flashbacks a lot. So I was like, I have missed how this woman got to the ball. I've missed something. I went all the way back and then they revealed it in episode two.

[A]

Okay, I have to ask you a question. This is not really about anything. It's about tv, but I don't think I know this about you. Do you put TV on as background noise?

[B]

No.

[A]

When you're at the house, like, working, do you have the TV on as, like, background noise? No, because I think that people that are like, oh, I missed something, are like, well, it was in the background, like, background noise. I am either actively watching a television show sitting down, or if I'm working, music is on. But I've never turned the TV on as bad background noise. I find it really distracting.

[B]

I don't want it. I don't, like, go to bed with the TV on.

[A]

Yeah, me either.

[B]

I mean, I'll have. Yeah, I'll have music on sometimes. I really want to always take opportunities to put my phone away. And so when I'm, like, watching tv, I want my phone to be away and I want to be engaged. The show that I will scroll for a large portion of it is Love is Blind. No, Love is Paris reality. Even Mormon Wives reality. You don't need to pay attention as much. Like a real scripted storyline. No, not even Emily in Paris. I want to watch it and I want. But Love is Blind. Ten, ten seasons in, I can miss stuff and be fine. And, like, I find myself with Love is Blind as, like, that's my main scroll show. And Whatever you think that says about me, I still love the show. But I will look up in like, I don't know, episode three and be like, who are these people?

[A]

I do that too, though. We're in the pods for four episodes. That's what.

[B]

It's a lot. That's what it is. I just find myself like. Like, I know after 10 seasons of watching this, when I need to pay attention, I just.

[A]

I mean, people are gonna pair off and I wanna watch those love stories. And every once in a while, I'll catch something really crazy that happened and I might rewind, but I am either actively engaged in TV or I'm listening to music.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I was curious. Somebody asked me this the other day. Okay, the last thing I have on here.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It's just one for both of us. I think we. Well, the last one for me is if being bad at sports was an Olympic sport.

[B]

Okay, great. So that was my Olympic sport.

[A]

And then changing our mind changed our minds. We do like to change our minds.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think we're really good at it.

[B]

That's funny. What is the scale of being good or bad? What determines that we're just good at it? Yeah.

[A]

I think we change our minds in.

[B]

A good way because we're pros, because.

[A]

We do it a lot, shoot a lot, we handle it well.

[B]

Yeah, it's true. Okay, let's just talk about our partners and then we will get back into it.

[A]

Okay. I'm telling you guys about Shopify, which is literally the platform that Ashley and I have run. Vibes only. And girls gotta eat merchandise on since day one. So we all made these resolutions in January and I know people can kind of like veer away from it, but February is when a lot of these resolutions go away. And they don't have to. You guys, if you had resolved to start a new business, to turn a side hustle into a full time job, you still have time. You still have all the time in the world. And what is an idea you can't stop thinking about, you want to finally bring to life? Shopify can help you do that. So it is the best place to start and grow a business just like ours. It's one commerce platform behind big brands that you know and love. It can help you turn a side hustle into a full storefront. It's going to allow you to sell to your customers. I love the entire back end. So Ashley and I can access Shopify on our phones or our computers. And we know every single thing that we're Selling the analytics are unbelievable. So at any point of the day, Ashley and I know for Vibes only, for example, every product that we have in stock, how much we have left, what we sold today, what are the days and the times that we sell the most and then our entire team can log in, we can have all the users and we know up to the moment every single order that comes in and what's happening with our company. It's the only way that I could ever imagine managing our company. And if you guys are novices in terms of building this, there's all these AI tools that will help you make your site look like a million bucks, perfect your ideas, give you instructions, so on and so forth. So if you are hungry for a chance to become your own boss, it is time to take your ideas and head over to Shopify today. Go to shopify.com GGE to get started today. We promise you will be so happy.

[B]

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[A]

Damn, Ashley.

[B]

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[A]

No, we're working on it. We have a great guest coming up for it.

[B]

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[A]

Of TV and movies out right now. We are gonna watch America's Next Top Model documentaries and the John F. Kennedy and Carolyn show on fx. It's called Love Story. We'll cover both of those next week for you guys. But in the meantime, lots of really great stuff out that we are talking about, including a movie we saw last night, Wuthering Heights.

[B]

Wuthering Heights. Wuthering Heights in quotes. So I find this really interesting. I didn't notice this, that the movie on the movie poster overall is in quotes because it is more of an adaptation. And the director said, you can't adapt a book as dense and complicated and difficult is this book. So she said, I can't say I'm making Wuthering Heights. It's not possible. What I can say is I'm making a version of it. So today we're not really going to dive into what's different from the book. It's very different from the book. Apparently the book is way more fucked up. And I went in a. Not knowing anything about the story at all. Like, I just missed this moment. I didn't have to read this for anything to some people to read this in school.

[A]

So it's from 1847. It is like a classic, classic book.

[B]

Of course I've heard of it.

[A]

A lot of people read it in high school. I just, I mean, I was asking you and Taylor last night, like, did you guys. I just didn't read that many books in high school. I was like a pretty. I was like such an asshole about reading.

[B]

But I don't know if you did this. I didn't even watch the trailer. Did you watch this trailer? Actually, I had.

[A]

I can't even explain to you how little I knew about it. Exactly.

[B]

So I watched the trailer this morning and I was so glad I didn't watch it, Raina. I didn't know anything. The trailer gives a lot away. Like in terms of. By the way, there's spoilers we of all of this today. We're obviously gonna talk about this. And if we want you guys to, to listen to whatever you want. But if you don't want spoilers, you know, we want to give you the heads up. So today we're obviously gonna do spoilers on all the things we discuss. Wuthering Heights, Tell me lies and a lot of small. Fine. Okay. That's plenty of time if you don't want spoilers for this. But like, I didn't know anything. I didn't know she married that guy. Like, I didn't, I didn't know when they got together eventually. I didn't know that they. I knew they were. But I didn't know anything. And I'm so happy. It reminds me when we brought friends to see the housemaid that didn't know anything didn't know anything about it. Like, it's a treat to be so surprised and, or shocked in this way sometimes in life.

[A]

I knew it was a huge cultural moment. Our girlfriend, who is very similar to us, was really excited about it. I think that the lead actor, Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi, I think they're phenomenal. And I knew that it was a love story. I worried I wasn't gonna like it because I just don't like old timey stuff.

[B]

You don't like period pieces?

[A]

I don't like period pieces at all. You like virtue at all. I know maybe I'm changing in my.

[B]

Old age, but depends on how it's done.

[A]

I just, I don't, I don't gravitate towards it. I don't care for it necessarily. Like books about it. I certainly don't. But like, this was.

[B]

I really.

[A]

I wanna go on record and say this is one of my favorite movies. Oh my God. Like definitely in the last couple years. But like, I loved it. The acting was amazing. The costumes were incredible. Like, it really caught me off guard. It was like sexy and beautiful and deep and moving. I woke up with like an emotional hangover. It's not a happy ending. And I don't, I don't necessarily like need that all the time. Like, it wasn't wrapped up in this nice bow by any means. And I don't know if I would have liked it if I had read the book.

[B]

It's.

[A]

The movie is only the first part of the book. It's 50% through the book.

[B]

Yeah. And so much difference.

[A]

There's a lot more. Just like, I think what anger and violence and he's worse.

[B]

He's like really abusive.

[A]

Yeah. And they sort of allude to how terrible he is for like 10 minutes of the movie.

[B]

That was my least favorite part.

[A]

Well, the character really pivots. Yeah.

[B]

I just was like, oh, this is. I don't know what we're trying to do here, but it's whatever.

[A]

I do think that, like, probably in the book, that character was so sick and mentally ill and abusive or all these things, and they were trying to allude to that, but there's nothing building to it in the movie for me. He seems this sweet guy that's always gonna protect her, and then he becomes this real monster.

[B]

But he was abused as a kid, so they're showing you that through line. I mean, I loved it as well. It ripped my heart out. I was totally engrossed the whole time. It's 2 hours and 50 minutes. I thought, like, brain is that. The acting was phenomenal. The visuals were amazing. I had to concentrate on the dialogue because I'm not really great with accents like Reina. These movies. Like, because I'm. I watch TV with captions. I started TV with captions in Bridgerton. Like, I'm not great. Like, even in Sinners, they have these really thick Southern, old timey accents. I was like to Shashanka's, like, I can't hear this. Like, it doesn't matter what it is if it's so thick. His voice specifically. I understood everything Margaret Robbie said, but. But he has that lower register and he was a little more mumbly. I was like, fighting for my life trying to understand it. But the music for me. So Charli XCX did the whole soundtrack.

[A]

I was gonna bring that up. Okay.

[B]

So she did the official soundtrack and released a concept album with the same name. So she's an album called Wuthering Heights. I mean, the music, I'm not gonna say it made the movie, but it really was such a part of why I found it so wonderful. The music was incredible. I mean, sometimes it felt like it fit the time period, but mostly not. And it was like, dark and moody and climactic and, like, there were points where I was like, Taylor Swift could never. Like, I was like, some of these songs have a Taylor Swift vibe, but they could never slap this hard. Like, I don't need to compare the two, but people do be comparing Charli XCX and Taylor Swift. And like, I was just like, these songs fit the moment so much.

[A]

I like how it modernized the movie. I mean, that's why I loved Romeo and Juliet. You had this like, the Leonardo DiCaprio version with Claire Danes. I mean, the Soundtrack was one of the greatest soundtracks ever made.

[B]

Garbage.

[A]

And also, so it was in Wuthering Heights. The costumes were pretty modern. Also, like, even some of the fabrics. I don't know if you noticed this. She's wearing latex in a couple of different. Of the costumes that she's wearing. And that's not a fabric they made dresses out of back then in the 1800s.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I like that there was sort of a real, like, effort to modernize this in, like, a low key kind of way.

[B]

Yeah, that's way low key, though. Like, not Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet was, like, so extreme.

[A]

Like, Bridgerton too. Like, they harmonize all of these rap songs, which I love.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. But the music, I mean, Charli XCX just went all the way off. And I just thought that was so incredible. I found a lot of parallels between this movie and the Notebook. And I hear me out the way they interacted, for one. Their dynamic of, like, being so in love, but. But he wasn't good enough for her. She got engaged to someone rich. That was more appropriate for her. Even the way they, like, would fight. The scenes in the rain felt so.

[A]

Always in the rain.

[B]

But, like, she's beating his chest in the rain.

[A]

Like, it's not over.

[B]

It was never over. Like, it was so similar to me. Like, even the letters he wrote her every day, and she never got them. Someone, like, got rid. Like, got rid of the letters. And then how he treated his other partner poorly because he was still in love with her. There were so many Notebook parallels.

[A]

Wait, do you think you would have thought of this if we weren't. If you didn't see the Notebook thing on Love is Blind, like, two days before.

[B]

No, that has nothing to do with it.

[A]

No, I felt it so much.

[B]

There was some scene in the rain where I was like, no, actually, the first thing I thought of, and you didn't agree with me, but when he looks all disheveled when he. When he's grown up. I thought he looked exactly like Ryan Gosling when he's all disheveled in the Notebook. They talk the same sometimes. They had a similar energy.

[A]

You don't agree with me, but we see faces.

[B]

But let me know if you guys feel like this. I thought he gave this Ryan Gosling in the Notebook vibe. And then the ending surprised me because I was like, they're gonna die together in the bed, like the Notebook. And then I thought. I thought he was gonna kill himself in the bed because they had foreshadowed Romeo and Juliet. Earlier, or we all thought he was gonna get hanged in the town square. Because that's how the movie opened. And now I don't understand why they opened like that. I thought that was a foreshadow for sure.

[A]

So the movie opens with this. Not just like a hanging in the town square, but everybody's so elated by it. And they're fucking in the streets. Cause they love the hanging so much. And the children love it. And they have all these dolls of the hanging. And it is foreshadowing that the town is really sick and that these people are really sick. And that they're elated by this level of violence and turned on by it and that. And you never really return to it at all.

[B]

Well, right. And I mean, then I was like. But I mean, you interpret it that way, which you could be absolutely correct. I was like, that person that was hanged as a villain or something. I didn't understand it. Like, I don't know where we went with that. And then there was a point in the movie where they say, I thought you'd be interested in who's being hanged today. And you think it's gonna be him. Yeah. And the sister just tells Margot Robbie it's. It's a woman. Which is just. I think it was like a jump scare. But, yeah, I thought he was gonna kill her husband and then be hanged or something. And then be it. I mean, I guess they. It's a little bit of a misdirection. Like they want you to think certain things. But then I didn't understand the foreshadowing.

[A]

I didn't start in a movie like that. Cause I was, like, kind of excited. I was like, oh, this is fucked up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is really weird and fucked up. I am really looking forward to reading the book. And I just.

[B]

I loved it. I'm dead. You're gonna read the book.

[A]

I can't wait. From 1847. I can't wait. Also, Emily Bronte is part of Three Sisters. And her sisters were all authors. Famous authors. I think her. Her sister wrote Jane Eyre.

[B]

They all died, like, tragically or something, I think. But everybody died like, young.

[A]

Everybody died like that. But like, they. It's a family of, like, prolific.

[B]

Yeah, they're all the sisters.

[A]

Yes. Her sister wrote Jane Eyre.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Okay. Which is pretty crazy. I mean, these are, like, books that we've read for many, many, many years. But, yeah, I don't know. I loved it. I thought it was incredible. And I actually am surprised that he doesn't die in the end. Because if you are going to take all these liberties with the book, if it's just an adaptation, then you could have ended it a little differently.

[B]

Well, I really want him to die because I don't need a happy ending. But that would have been, like, they're gonna be reunited in the afterlife. And then I couldn't get past this. Like, what is he gonna go back and do to the sister? Like, just his. I don't know. I couldn't get past, like, what is this gonna do to this man that's already abusing this other woman?

[A]

I don't know. But it removes the reason to treat her like that.

[B]

Right, Exactly. But. But in the book, the sister who he marries, he is more abusive. She escapes to London, but they have a kid, and then I guess the kid gets together with the two kids get together. It's a little incestuous. Yeah. Okay. Do you think the press tour is misleading? Like, do you think this has been positioned as a romance and it's a tragedy?

[A]

I still think it's. I'd call it a romance.

[B]

You would? Yeah.

[A]

I still. Absolutely. You don't think it's a romance?

[B]

Yeah, I guess it is. It's just. It's like a gothic romance. It's a tragic romance.

[A]

Trust. Tragic romance.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I miss it. Like, I want to see it again. I want to watch it today. I, like, would go to the theater by myself to go see this.

[B]

I know. It just, like. It really just ripped my heart out.

[A]

I was crying and crying.

[B]

I wasn't crying as much as I. I don't know if. I don't know. I cry, but not as much as I usually do. I just felt, like, sad in my soul.

[A]

Yeah. I just went home, like, with a bit of an emotional hangover. People got upset that they took me liberty with the book. And I would just like to go on record say, I don't care if you take liberties with a book from 1847. I think it's a little weird to, like, take liberties with, like, people were upset about some changes made to the housemaid. And also, it ends with us. Those were really prolific books in the last couple years. I think that, like, that it's a little more strange to change the plot of something that was so famous currently.

[B]

But the housemaid was pretty close. Pretty close.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like this. But again, that's why it was in quotes. Yeah. Like, she's like, this is quote unquote, Wuthering Heights.

[A]

You know, if it was 180 years ago, I don't mind if You. It's possible liberties.

[B]

That's your line.

[A]

But I, I loved it. I really recommend it. And it's just. I think that you could go with your partner. I think you could go with your girlies. We went with two other girlfriends. It was four of us. It was fun. It's nice.

[B]

Girls in and out. So I got home from the movie all up and went right into the Tell Me Lies finale because, well, I. We needed to watch it to talk about. This was last night and I wanted to watch it with Shashank, so I had to watch it. You would. You woke up this morning and watched it. So I was like, he was waiting up for me with. And when I got home from the movies and we watched it and I don't recommend that. That was a real mind fuck. Like I took it too far. And I just am so furious about the ending of the show.

[A]

So this is the series finale. They announced that. This is that. And I actually was like, I'll be honest, I haven't really loved this season. I think they took a lot of liberties with the characters. I think they completely changed who these people are. I just didn't love a lot of these storylines. I mean, it just. It seems too far fetched, like to personally. You took this like pretty realistic toxic relationship in college and made it so dark and heavy. But I will say I do like how they wrapped it up. And I had no idea how they were going to wrap. And there's so many storylines to have wrapped up. It's like, are Bri and Wrigley gonna end up together? How did Diana end back up with Pippa? Like, what is Steven gonna do? Like, I. There was a bunch of storylines. I actually liked how they wrapped it up.

[B]

Yeah. This season could have been an email, but I am so mad about. I wrote some notes and I just. Here's how I feel at the ending of the show.

[A]

You mean the actual ending? Like the gas station, the every.

[B]

The overall, all of it. This terrible man who did all these terrible things, ruins a bunch of people's lives and drives off into the sunset in his G wagon. He is embarrassed. The main female character. Yet again, the viewer is left to think, oh, she's so stupid. How could she. Like, how could she be so stupid? And I even get back with him. So I feel like for Steven, someone who for three seasons of the show, most of the viewers have wanted to see some consequences for his actions. Like, that's all we've wanted. But no. And then on top of that, Oliver, a fucking Predator. No punishment for him. The whole situation, I guess we're led to believe that that's what severed this already fraught relationship with Bri and her mom, Chris the Rapist. I guess we're supposed to assume he's also fine. Nothing ever happened to Chris the Rapist. So the end of the show is that terrible. Men can get away with murder. Literally. Read the fucking room. Megan Oppenheimer, like, I. I get it, her whole point was all these people are toxic. That's why she played Toxic and sent that message. But the ultimate message to me, and again, this is just because maybe it's 2026 and this is what we're dealing with, and this is on my mind every day, is that men can assault and abuse and terrorize people and drive off into the sunset while this woman is left in shambles. And it's just like, that is why our country is crumbling. And we could have done better with a female showrunner. I'm disappointed. And again, like, maybe in a different time, I wouldn't feel this way, but it feels like this male gaze.

[A]

I love his take. I actually have no notes. I just. I love it. I think it's really smart. He also got away with actual murder.

[B]

He got away with murder.

[A]

Murder.

[B]

That's the whole point. But like in the book, the Tell Me Lies book, the ending, Lucy finally breaks free from Steven and she rekindles her relationship with her mom, and she is, like, pursuing a career in journalism. So Megan Oppenheimer took that and was like, nah, make her look like a fucking idiot. And I saw this take that Diana told Lucy, the only way you will be rid of Stephen is if you make him think he won. Which I do think that's what they were trying to do there. But I just think we could have given this woman more credit. She could have broken free from Steven in the years after college, you know, like, I read an article, an interview with Megan Oppenheimer, and she was like, that was the only way Lucy was gonna break free. And I'm like, you're not giving her enough credit. And if you want to have your female protagonist in a gas station humiliated in a bridesmaid's dress in the middle of nowhere, and that's how you wanna end the show. That's your decision. But in this climate, all these men, all these abusers literally ride off into the sunset, and this woman is in the parking lot of a gas station, like, like, humiliated.

[A]

And I actually, you know, I have a problem with people and all this rhetoric saying, like, Lucy is just as bad as Steven. Sure, she did some really bad stuff. She slept with her best friend's boyfriend.

[B]

She.

[A]

The worst thing I agree that you. You can do is accuse somebody of sexual assault that did not assault you. It makes other women that come forward. It. It invalidates their stories. It's terrible. However. Yeah, but he didn't assault her.

[B]

I know, I know, I know.

[A]

I just think she was a really lost kid. I think her father died. I think she made some really bad mistakes. I think we all make mistakes at that age. I will not evaluate this character as a 30 year old adult. I will evaluate this character as a 19 year old girl. And at 19, I made some questionable decisions and I grew up and I grew out of it. Steven actually ruined people's lives, held onto grudges, decided to ruin Brie's wedding. Evan didn't do anything besides sleep with his girlfriend when he was 18.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And also he cheated on her and walked out of it. The punishment doesn't fit the crime for Lucy, for me.

[B]

Yeah. And Steven has trauma too. We've seen his family structure. And it just feels like the people who ran this show sympathize with Steven over Lucy. That much is clear. That feels like underlying misogyny to me. It feels like it's from the male gaze. Like, I just think given the state of the world, if it was me and I was making this show, I would have wanted a woman to be empowered instead of all these men getting away with murder. Like, when I think about it and I run the tape, I'm like, that's how they wrapped up Oliver too. Like, so that I have a real problem. And Chris, we just don't hear about it. Like, I just feel angry about it. And I read the interview with the showrunner and she can do whatever she wants and she can explain it all away. And this is why I did this. But in this climate, that is what I got from this. And if I were a woman making TV shows, I would make sure women felt a little bit empowered after. And men had consequences for their actions.

[A]

I agree. There's an article in the Hollywood Reporter if you guys are interested. And they interview Megan Oppenheimer about every single decision in the finale. And she says, like, I never saw this show as a show where everything works out for everybody. So, like, the endings that I did, like, I. I like that Brie will find the courage probably to be with Wrigley. I like that Diana and Pippa just walk out of there like, you guys are all crazy. And I Don't want anything to do with this. I like that. Lucy's childhood friend who's engaged to Steven. I like that he says, I fucked Lucy this morning. She throws the ring and walks away. Like, I do think that, like, she hates Lucy because of what Lucy a lot allegedly did to her brother. Like, I do understand her hating Lucy. I don't think that woman should end up with Steven either. You know, I think that Evan will end up with somebody that cares about him eventually. He seems like a good enough guy.

[B]

Yeah. I wish Lucy never would have slept with Steven at the wedding. I wish we would have seen her as, like. But that's not what they wanted to do. And that's fine. It's their TV show. I wish she wouldn't have been under his spell as someone who was, like, thought he was the one who ruined her life in college. And. And you would have hoped she would have grown from it. Like, they just made her look really weak. And I feel like at the end, really humiliated. And I even thought the wedding. I wasn't a fan of the wedding scene. I don't think they should have done that at 3 in the morning with 10 people on the dance floor. And then Evan falls into a cake. It felt slapsticky. It felt so stupid to me. Like, I'm also just mad at the season in general.

[A]

Like, I wish.

[B]

But I did read this was like some good news. So they did ask her. Megan Oppenheimer, in the final moment with Brie and Wrigley at the wedding, they looked at each other happily amid the chaos. Is it safe to assume she and Evan get a divorce or an annulment and she and Wrigley ultimately end up together? And it's so funny because she's just like, yeah, I'll make that decision. And she says, I will state on the record as a fact that Brie and Wrigley end up together. Evan and Brie get annulled. I don't even think they get a divorce. He's just like, I'm annulling this marriage. Fair enough. And Brie and Wrigley end up together. I think they're like, what have we got to lose? We need to just give it a shot. Which that's the one thing I'm happy about.

[A]

I am happy about that. I liked Steven's speech. And I actually. I don't feel like Lucy, like, got what she deserved. But to me, she's not a sympathetic character, even though I don't think she's anything like Steven. But I don't know that she necessarily needs, like, a redemption arc in the show of, like, she came up and grew up, which is what most people do. Most people grow up and they grow out of these people. But it didn't bother me, her ending. The Chris. We never wrapped up the Chris situation. The professor getting defended by his wife and just walking out of there is so sick and terrible. And I actually was surprised we didn't circle back to that. Cause I was like, surely something else is gonna happen here. And I read the article with Megan Oppenheimer saying that, like, this is unfortunately. Often what happens with predators, unfortunately, is that they don't get caught. They don't go down for this. And I don't know, I just. I still didn't like the message that this.

[B]

Not the show I would make in this climate. Like, let's do some things to show men having consequences and empower women a little bit. And she also had said she needed that to make Bri hit her rock bottom, to be low enough to release the tape. And it's like, nobody loves to terrorize women more than the people that do this show. Like, literally, they're just like. It feels so. I don't know, it feels weird. Like, it feels like they really had a more empowering ending in the book. And they just.

[A]

In the book, I think that also it's. They found out that he killed Macy.

[B]

Okay. Right.

[A]

Like, it was just no consequences. He doesn't go to jail, but, like, it alludes to the fact that he's going to get caught for this.

[B]

And it's just like, put him in a G wagon. So you're supposed to assume he's very rich. Very rich. Like, everything has gone well for this guy. Like, I'm fucking furious. I was up all night.

[A]

I like your take. I think it's a hot take. I don't mind the ending for Lucy, but I do have a real problem that Steven just gets to drive off and be fine. So does Chris. So does this professor. I mean, all these really terrible men.

[B]

Yeah. It's not what I would have done with Lucy. Yeah. It's not the kind of content I want to consume right now in 2026.

[A]

It's interesting, some liberties they took with the characters that I didn't really understand. I don't really understand why they don't ever wrap up the storyline that Steven murdered somebody. Like, are you supposed to assume, like, Diana kind of got him back for. For it by getting him kicked out of Yale? And, like, that's the whole thing?

[B]

Oh, I Thought Wrigley. Wrigley got him kicked out of you.

[A]

So I was actually asking.

[B]

They do show Wrigley tells Wrigley, and then they show Wrigley right after 100.

[A]

Why would Wrigley know about the nudes?

[B]

Pippa told him.

[A]

Pippa told him? Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So that's why they had Pippa tell Wrigley, and then they. They. That was what you were supposed to.

[A]

Assume because they go directly to Wrigley.

[B]

But I was like, wrigley is the hero. Obviously, a man's a hero in the show that's glorifies men, but Wrigley, I think, comes out on top of the whole show. Right? Let's. He's like the. The actual hero of the show, and. Cause you were led to believe that Brie is obviously super toxic and he's the winner.

[A]

It's funny. Cause there's, like, very few characters you really can root for wholeheartedly in the show, and it's Pippa and Wrigley, and they ended up together, like, in real life. So I don't know. I mean, I just. I felt kind of done with the show in general. I thought they took too many liberties with it this season. It felt unrealistic. It felt unnecessarily dark. The first two seasons will go down as, you know, some of the best TV that I've watched.

[B]

I love 100%, like, the second season finale. Oh, my fucking God. Like, I give Megan Oppenheimer and the team credit for two amazing seasons. I just am really upset with the way they decide to wrap it up. And this has been one of my favorite shows. And we've talked about it for years. We've. They've been a partner of ours, you know, so it's like. I feel. Part of me feels bad even saying this, but I have to speak my truth.

[A]

No, I agree with your truth.

[B]

Okay, let's talk about love is blind quickly. I mean, love is blind. Ohio, the whole state. It's not a city. They are pulling people from Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, all the whole state. We love Ohio. We always have. These people are not that problematic. They seem really wholesome. This. Most of them seem like they really want to find somebody. And Nick. Nick Lachey was raised in Cincinnati, so he comes in high with, like, oh, which I thought was really cute. And there's just not a lot of drama. I mean, I think the thing most people picked up on, they. They chose seven couples to follow. Their budget only allows for six to go to Cabo, so they sent the seventh couple To Malibu. And they're. They're just the least dramatic one. They're the couple that has the least intersection with the other couples. And so they picked them. If you guys were curious, they've. That's not a secret. Netflix came out and said why they decided to do that. I don't really have doppelgangers this season. I don't want to force it. I'm not seeing a lot. I don't know. So if you guys do have love is blind doppelgangers, who these people look like. I do this every season, and it just comes naturally to me, and I just am not seeing a lot of lookalike. So leave them in the comments if you guys have them. And we were just going to do predictions, but what are you thinking? You're kind of still.

[A]

I'm a little further behind than you are. So you've. You've watched the first five episodes?

[B]

Six episodes. Whatever's out. The first. The first chunk, yeah.

[A]

So I. I can't get predictions, but you can get predictions.

[B]

Okay. So just going to give my predictions for these couples whether they get married or not. So Christine and Vic. Yes, that's the Malibu couple. They just seem in love from the jump and whatever. Not my fave, but they're fine. I think they're gonna get married. I think it's pretty obvious. Emma and Mike. Emma is the adopted woman. She's stunningly beautiful, and she has the. She had to get a birth arc removed. That's a big part of her story is being adopted and also having this kind of body insecurity that she deals with. I do not think they are gonna get married. I think that the kids thing is an issue, and it's not going away. She doesn't know if she wants kids. He wants kids so much. And we always say the problem at the beginning is the problem at the end. And I think that's what will break them up. And she won't be able to tell him, I definitely want to have kids with you, which is understandable with someone you just met a week ago. And I think that they won't get married. On the same note, Amber and Jordan, same thing. He specifically said he didn't want to be with somebody who had kids. He doesn't want to be a stepdad. And he fell for this woman when her kids were not part of the equation. And once the kids get into the mix, I think it's going to be a Jordan and Sparkle Megan type of thing. I don't think. I think they're going to break up.

[A]

I think saying you're okay with somebody that has kids and actually experiencing it is really.

[B]

But he said no. He said, I specifically said I don't want somebody with kids. And then he fell for this mom.

[A]

And I think that, you know, when you are not around the child, that's. Anybody can say, I can be fine with it. I am hypothetically fine being with somebody that has children. It's a case by case basis.

[B]

Yeah. I think that Sparkle Megan did her best with Jordan, and it wasn't right. Okay. Bri and Connor, I don't know, the previews make it seem like they don't make it. They seem like solid enough, but he also seems like he's getting annoyed with her. So I'm going to say no. Brittany and Devonte. Hard no. Alex and Ashley. I'll give him a maybe, but no. And then Jessica and Chris, I love them so much. I'm gonna say yes because I just want to manifest the doctor and the short king. And those are my predictions. So 2 I feel confident in.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Well, I can't say anything to. To the contrary. Isn't that nice? Okay, we're just gonna do our headlines. We're gonna send you out into your weekend. Heated rivalry. Big news out of the camp. Star Hudson Williams hard launches his girlfriend on Valentine's Day with, I mean, a full Instagram story. There are six photos. It says, happy Valentine's Day with me since my 2000 gold Mazda Protege smoked and squealed and I had no job. And it's all these photos done together. One of the six is Connor stories. And then he drew a heart around Connor's story, which really made me laugh. But I guess they have been together for quite a long time.

[B]

Have they really been together that whole time? Like, this man has had a girlfriend the whole time. The whole time. Or they, like, got back together.

[A]

She's been with me since I had no job. And also her hair is multiple different colors in these photos, so it's enough to like.

[B]

But he was being. He was being really cagey about his sexuality, which I didn't really understand. Well, not. Not that I understand it. He can do whatever he wants. But I think it's interesting to. To be cagey about your sexuality when you just have a girlfriend.

[A]

I found it an interesting choice. And there's been a lot of talk online about him not coming forward and saying yes or no, and which is. I don't think that you. I don't think you owe people information about your sexuality, but I think a lot of people felt like this show was a real icon in the gay community. And like, are these people actually a part of our community or are they just playing one on television? And, and he said, even like so many athletes have reached out to me and said, like, you've helped me to think about coming out. And it's interesting to not then say like, I think that's a beautiful thing and I'm glad to inspire people. But I am not, I don't identify as this. I have a female partner, a longtime female partner. It just feels like he sort of rode the wave while he could to do all these interviews basically like hanging all over Connor's story and like to drum up a lot of puppets. And I understand the reason for it because I try to, I try to zoom out and be like, okay, for Wuthering Heights, Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi, they're holding hands on the red carpet. I mean you see this a lot in promo for movies in general where like the main characters act like they're kind of together and flirt with each other. But if you're also, again, if, if you're not sure about your sexuality, you do not owe anybody that information. Just cause you played something on television does not mean that you owe. But if you were just in a serious long term relationship, somebody. That's a quick answer.

[B]

I didn't know that. That's what I'm like, did he just get back together with this like high school sweetheart or whatnot? Okay, well, what's going on with Justin and Blake?

[A]

So Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, they went to court to discuss a settlement ahead of the trial, which is looming. I thought it was supposed to be in March, it's gonna start in May. But they both arrived in court to talk about a settlement because there, I guess there's always a chance of having a settlement. But there is no decision on the summary judgment about any trimming of Lively's claims. So the scheduled session in court basically resulted in them not coming to an agreement. So now they are expected to be in court in late May in front of a jury.

[B]

Okay, well stay tuned. Okay. And lastly, Chapel Roan leaves her talent agency, Wasserman Agency after the Epstein files revelations. So Casey Wasserman, who owns this talent agency, leads this talent agency. He had flirtatious text messages with Ghislaine Maxwell more than, than 20 years ago. So whatever you want to think about that, he, I mean, I don't know how involved was. He was, he must have known something. Was. I can't speak on. I don't really know all the details but these were released and people found out Chapel Ron is like I'm going to stand on business and leave this agency. And now he is selling the agency. It's. I would assumed he would have stepped down but he is actually said he's selling the agency. He's like head of the 28, 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. He's still doing that and you know he has issued an apology and he's like I was not involved in any of the bad stuff but I was involved and it looks bad and he took ownership of it. I'm not defending it guys. I want to be very clear and I feel like I can't even talk about the Epstein files without just like, like going into a deep dark depression. But we just found this interesting. I mean Chapel Ron is like, you know what, I'm going to be the person to make the statement. We asked our friend who was with the agency after was just curious and she said within the first hour of this news dropping they got messages from her team.

[A]

So Wasserman's a huge talent agency for sure. One of the biggest in the country. It's not like a small thing obviously they wrecked Chaperone but it's a massive and we know tons of people that are there and I guess I'm wondering if this guy knew that the writing was on the wall.

[B]

I wonder.

[A]

I do think that like okay, flirty text messages with an adult 20 years ago is not so damning to me. It's sort of like what else is about to come out.

[B]

I think it's more like like I want to be in the circle. Like I'm. I think the vibes are I'm flirting with Ghislaine to get in with the Epstein. How much he knew, who's to say?

[A]

Who's to say? But it does. It sort of makes me think like okay, if you're going to go as far as to like sell the agency, I, I think that you would make a lot of noise if this was.

[B]

All that this was. Well, so it says that some aspects of Wasserman's association with Epstein were already known. This fresh batch of emails shows a deeper and more intimate relationship. So it sounds like people did know. I mean so many big powerful people are involved but it's like to what level and what did they know? So. So yeah, during one exchange this was released Wasserman asked Maxwell so what do I have to do to see you in a tight leather Outfit, which I. You know what I'm going to say? If this guy didn't fucking traffic and rape children, then I don't fucking care. Unredact the names of the people that are talking about 9 year olds, 10 year olds. I mean, seriously, I cannot believe who's being protected like this. Yeah, I care, but not that much. You know, if he actually didn't do any of these terrible things. But those people are being protected.

[A]

None of these people should be protected. It's insane.

[B]

None of them should be protected. But it's just like, oh, my fucking God. You know this giant list.

[A]

We were talking in the car yesterday about all these celebrities that are quote, unquote, connected to the Epstein files. And there's names in it. There's hordes of every celebrity you've ever heard of. But, like, the context with which they're. I mean, they could have just said, like, is there a fundraiser tonight? Is there a meet? They've been asked to perform at certain things. The context around that really matters. And why are we redacting these names?

[B]

Yes. Redacting names of people who are saying disgusting things about literal children. The names are blocked out. This should make you so mad. Like, we sh. I can't even. I can't. You know what? Let's. Anyway, so that's the. That's that. But my. Our friend said she didn't even know the news till she found out from the agency first, which I think is. Is good. It's like, you're about to hear about this. And she said it felt like a waiting game. I think if he didn't step down, a lot of people would have jumped ship. And I. I really do respect Chapel Roan for making that decision. I mean, Chapel Ron is everywhere. Her career is on fire, which means her agency is doing right by her. She's talented in her own right, of course, but, like, she was probably pretty happy with what her agency was doing for her, I would assume. And she was like, bye. And I love to see that. So, you know, we need more of that energy. Yeah. Okay.

[A]

All right. Well, that has been your snack for the week. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Lots more TV to watch for next week to consume. So we're excited to talk about Bridgerton and Love Story and all the things next week.

[B]

Yes, it will be more romantic next week. We're gonna.

[A]

We're gonna double lose during the episode Toxicity.

[B]

And, yeah, we'll be practicing our double luge in the meantime. Okay, guys, girls gotta eat Dot com. Get those tickets to Netflix is a joke fest. You can find that link very easily in our bio or on our website. So that is girls gotta eat.com and then girls Gotta Eat podcast on Instagram and TikTok as well. I am Ash Hess on Instagram and Tick Tock. I like to go rogue on TikTok and you know, pop off. So check me out over there. Raina is on tour. Raina greenberg.com for her tickets. Raina Jack Greenberg on Instagram and subscribe on YouTube of course. Share this episode with a friend and we will see you Monday.

[A]

Have a good week guys.

[B]

Bye. Sa.