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John
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Alex
Obviously, I wasn't contracting. I was not gonna deliver her, but I thought that her hand was just gonna pop out or her something. There was something trying to find its way out.
John
I don't know how I feel about sexual relations anymore after this point.
Alex
She might grab onto your wiener next time.
John
Oh, my. So fucked up. No. Gotcha. And welcome back to Give it to Me straigh. And I'm John, and we're your gracious, gracious, gracious, gracious hosts. You know, just admit when you're wrong.
Alex
I'm not wrong. The thing is, John, you. You couldn't admit when you were wrong the other day when you.
John
I do. I just need a minute. Just need a minute.
Alex
You go, hey, hand. Hey, hand me something. You literally say that sentence. You go, hey, give me something. And then I go, give you what? And then you got mad at me because I didn't know what something was. When we were outside, what was I doing? You were at the Blackstone. You were, like, grilling. And then you go, hey, hand me. Hand me something. And I go, what is something?
John
I was cleaning the grill. You were already being short with me because you didn't want to shoot that reel or whatever, which I didn't want to anyways, but we had to. And so you had a little toot. So I had a little toot. Little tutu'd.
Alex
But you get annoyed that I don't know what something is.
John
Do you really want to go there? Where are the car keys? It's over there. Where? In the drawer. Okay, which drawer? The one in the kitchen.
Alex
You know where the car keys are all the time.
John
There's 40 drawers in the kitchen. I'm just saying, tit for tat.
Alex
All right, well, we don't have to start like this. But you started it. We had a little. A little spat before we started this, didn't we?
John
Last week. Every little spitz bat.
Alex
A little spitz bat. We're just preparing ourselves, which, by the way, we have less than two months to go.
John
I'm freaking out.
Alex
We're so unprepared. So unprepared.
John
Who cares? People doing it forever. Change. Change her on the floor. Let her sleep on the floor. I'm just kidding. Sleeping on the floor. Sleeping on the floor.
Alex
I mean, you guys, at least you and your dad painted the nursery this weekend, which is painted nursery. But we have nothing for it. It's still an office.
John
But that's the biggest part, right? The rest is just buying shit and filling up yes.
Alex
It's like, what do you need when you have a baby to start diapers? A bassinet, a stroller, a car seat. That's it, right?
John
Yeah.
Alex
Wipes.
John
Wipes.
Alex
I just.
John
I'm not doing the heated milk or the heated wipes because I heard you don't want them to get used to that.
Alex
You spoil your baby.
John
Yeah.
Alex
I don't know. You guys can let us know all the things that we need, because currently.
John
Are you going to have heated wipes when you're at a restaurant and they go boom, boom. And they're in there. Oh, by the way, they go boom, boom. Our cousin's kid in the pool, his diaper fell apart.
Alex
Oh. Like, it exploded.
John
It looked like jelly all over his leg.
Alex
I don't know. I don't know anything. And I realized that today, too, that I was like, I have have no clue about. About literally anything.
John
Yeah. At least you know how to hold a baby.
Alex
Hardly.
John
You're good at it.
Alex
I've watched you can do it.
John
I've never held a baby.
Alex
Also, is your shirt soft?
John
Like it.
Alex
Oh, I thought it was like doing.
John
A different shirt every week.
Alex
I thought you're doing a different shirt. Had holes in it. Like, it looked like a vacation shirt.
John
It is a vacation shirt.
Alex
Well, yeah, but it kind of is like a towel, so I guess you could, like, wear it.
John
It's a comfy towel.
Alex
It's like a towel shirt.
John
I wouldn't wear this outside because it's. I'd be sweating.
Alex
Yeah, you could wear that.
John
Do you like it, though?
Alex
I do. I mean, I don't like it as much close up as I did far away.
John
It's another fun shirt, right? Kind of fun.
Alex
It looks like a vacation.
John
Like, I'd be like out in. In the Hamptons, like, fist pumping somewhere.
Alex
Speaking of the Hamptons, everybody is out there. We're not.
John
I know. I feel like, have we even been out there this summer?
Alex
No. I mean, again, I've been pregnant for a hundred years. Last summer I was pregnant.
John
People just look at us like these old fox. They're about to have a kid we don't want to hang out with.
Alex
Dude. I mean, like, we can whenever we want since we live here, but off season, everything is closed. But now it's wild how busy it is. I don't want to go out there.
John
I wouldn't want to go back there to then have to drive home because it'll be a nightmare the same day. Was it like two hours from here.
Alex
And, like, we're already on the island and it's far, but. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. I don't have FOMO of it, but, like, last summer was fun. After we got out of our depressive state to go party it up at the Hamptons, it was fun.
John
All right, let's recap. This week, your parents came to town. Parents came to town. This is good. Again, three to four days. Perfect amount of time for people to visit, you know, I think we've nailed it. It's really three days, three nights, four days is perfect. But we were busy. Nice restaurant. My mom liked the restaurant, which is a huge plus.
Alex
True.
John
You know, did stuff around the house. Nursery, and then we had a little pool party.
Alex
I just feel like recapping on a week is such a blur. I'm like, what even happened? I'm operating on one brain cell. I don't know. It's good. I'm tired. What do you have written?
John
I have. I have notes.
Alex
Oh, here we go. All because I came with notes last week about how you like to look directly into the sun. You're like, what am I gonna get Alex on for this week? Because I.
John
No, no, no. Nothing about you.
Alex
Okay.
John
Speaking of the sun, I'm sitting on the porch with my mom where the sun's going down. It's nice. She's like, oh, it's so beautiful out here, John. I'm like, I know. Her next line to me goes, let's look at the obituaries in Connecticut. That was her next line to me.
Alex
Why?
John
I have no fucking clue. And she's looking. She goes, oh, my God. Antonio just died in Connecticut. I went to high school with him. I'm like, what?
Alex
Wait, so when she said that someone who died, who she went to high school with, that was just random because she just wanted to look up the obituary?
John
Yeah. I don't know. Maybe.
Alex
Is that what you do when you reach that age?
John
I don't know.
Alex
You're just like.
John
Which my mom wants to know the ins and outs of, like, what. What's. What's up with everyone?
Alex
I know, but, like, could you imagine doing that at our age? No, but, like, you get to a point in life, but your mom's not even at that point in life where people are just dying. Like my grandma.
John
But somebody. Did somebody die? And she calls my Uncle Army. You wouldn't believe who just died. Antonio is not. I don't remember the guy's name.
Alex
Just because she randomly said, let's look up the obituaries.
John
Sun's John said in the scene, sun's going down, beautiful little breeze. Enjoying ourselves, a little cocktail. Let's get morbid. That's what that was.
Alex
You know what? Like mother, like son. You are your mom.
John
I am another thing. Another thing.
Alex
Each other's doppelgangers.
John
Another thing. My dad make me so uncomfortable at dinner. Why was he like taking some of his food, feeding my mom, and then like feeding you? I'm like, why? Why is this happening? And you went for it. I'm like, take it off his fork. What are you like how Feeding each other.
Alex
Your dad, Your dad reaches over. Am I supposed to take it with my hand?
John
Yeah, that's weird.
Alex
It was like a piece of fish. I'm not going to take my hands. And then what? Lick my.
John
I felt like I was interrupting something.
Alex
Well, that's great because today we are going to talk about in laws. All the questions are in law related.
John
Perfect.
Alex
Inappropriate behavior with your in laws. I didn't think that was bad. Like my parents.
John
I don't know. I was like. Actually I was a little jealous.
Alex
You think that's weird?
John
Feed me.
Alex
The conversations that I overhear my dad having with you are so uncomfortable. Or my mom, like, my mom has definitely hit on you at some point.
John
Your mom is not speaking.
Alex
Your mom, your mom speaking.
John
Your mom and my mom. And this I don't know what the deal is with everyone commenting about my legs. Your mom looked at me, she goes, did you lose? You lost a lot of like, you need to start lifting. Your legs are skinny. Then my mom over the weekend, legs are looking a little skinny.
Alex
John, you do have skinny legs.
John
I don't. I work my legs out twice a week.
Alex
I don't know. I don't think you're. Are your legs sore?
John
Yes.
Alex
I don't believe.
John
Also I'm really sore because they increase my cholesterol medicine. So like I'm like body aching everywhere. I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to do something about that.
Alex
This is so sad. Like, you're falling apart.
John
And people ask me, like, what do you do? Like, what's your health routine like? I am a mess.
Alex
But on the outside it looks like you have it together.
John
I have like, no back.
Alex
You speaking on people commenting on your legs though, has me thinking. Cuz even just this week I was like, when you're pregnant, that is like open. What's an open test? Like open table, open. Why do I want to say range? Like people. I can't find the word that I'm looking for. But like, people just think that they have the.
John
Oh, I see what you're saying. Like, they're comfortable enough to just, like, speak their mind. You. Yeah, I get that. I respect that.
Alex
It's only. I feel like no one would ever comment on your weight or your size at any other point in life. I mean, people do comment on your legs for some reason. You make them feel comfortable enough to do that. But I just feel like a pregnant.
John
Woman is always confidence. They're like, he doesn't care. That's why.
Alex
Yeah, but then it hurts your feelings. Every time you do care, you go, what? Excuse me.
John
It would. It hurts my feelings because I work them out twice a week. If I didn't work out my legs, I'd be like, you got it.
Alex
Okay, well, someone commenting on my giant growing body. I should be growing. And I still get annoyed when people are like, you look bigger. How about you shut the fuck up? Like, it's just the worst.
John
Well, thank God, because you want to get bigger.
Alex
Yes. But don't fucking tell me that. Like, oh, my God, you look so big. You look bigger. You look.
John
I don't even look in your direction.
Alex
What is your excuse for looking bigger?
John
I'm like, alex, do you want some coffee?
Alex
Unless, like, again, you're saying you just say you look beautiful. Or how about nothing, just say nothing. I just don't want to hear anything. And it is just. I feel like when you're pregnant that everyone feels open season, that it's open season to comment on a pregnant person's body. Shut. Shut the fuck up. Everybody in unison, shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear it. That's what I'm saying.
John
She doesn't want to. Hey, hey. She doesn't want to hear it. She doesn't want to hear it again.
Alex
Unless.
John
Enough.
Alex
Unless it's how beautiful I am. Don't talk about my size. I don't want to hear it.
John
She talking about that fat ass.
Alex
I know. That is. You could tell me that I have a fat ass, but I feel like my ass is not getting fat. It's getting flat, even though I'm trying to lift it up anyway. I just don't. I don't think it's appropriate. And again, I've probably been that person to comment on a pregnant friend's body and be like, oh, my gosh, you're so teeny. Or, wow, you popped. I wish I could go back and punch myself in the throat.
John
I have one more thing. I'm slightly embarrassed that I did this. I'm like, why did I. Why did I do this? I'm at the gym. Gyms. All old people, basically, at my gym. Or you're in high school. And I got the.
Alex
Well, that's what happens when you go to the Y.
John
So, yeah, when you go to the Y, I got this ab roller, right? And I'm trying to speed through my workout. You know the ab roller.
Alex
Yeah.
John
And I'm just like. I'm like, I'm gonna do 60. So I did 60.
Alex
60?
John
Yeah, I did 60.
Alex
Wow.
John
And I was gonna stop at, like, 40. And I could tell this one old lady that was doing ab crunches next to me and this old guy and doing, like, this, I don't know, chess machine. They were, like, talking to each other and looking at me, and I'm like, I'm gonna keep going. Like, I'm gonna impress them.
Alex
And so these old strangers.
John
Strangers. For some reason, whatever, I was like, I just kept doing 60, and then I had my music up, and I started doing, like, more apps. I don't know. Like, I felt like I had to, like, show them what's up. And then I left. I'm like, why did I do that?
Alex
You know, whatever motivates you. Maybe someone could motivate you while you're doing squats. Like that.
John
No. No one. As opposed. Watch. I don't do squats. I don't do a single squat. I pull my back every time I do the leg press.
Alex
If I wasn't worried about getting another hernia, I would have you do legs here, and then I would. I would spot you. But not in my current state.
John
No, no. Anyways. Okay, cool. Is that weird? Is it weird?
Alex
I mean, I don't know.
John
It, like, motivated me to be like, I'm going to keep. I'm going to keep going.
Alex
People talk about that how when you're at the gym, the motivation is from other people being around you, you don't.
John
Get motivated at all.
Alex
I don't want people looking at me like, I just want to work out in the comfort of my home.
John
Not people looking at you, just in general being around people. Like, if I see other people killing at the gym, like, I want to kill it.
Alex
When I used to run and do races. Yes. Like being. Doing a half marathon or a marathon, like, running it with other people. I'm like, that's motivating. Being in a workout class. Yes. Like, I've taken Orange Theory a few times, and, like, I guess it's motivating. I don't love classes. I. I really I feel like I get a better workout at home. Like, I love watching the peloton classes. I think those are amazing.
John
Yeah. You like staying on your compound and never leaving?
Alex
Yeah, I don't need to leave. I really don't.
John
If I don't get out of that house, I'm gonna be like, I'm going to blow my brains out.
Alex
I do leave the house to go out to a restaurant or walk outside with Coco. That's my.
John
I do. Like, I cannot wait for you to not be pregnant anymore so I can, like, have my buddy back and we can go to happy hour.
Alex
I'm still here. I'm just not.
John
I'm not saying you got a lot of drinks, but just me having one drink and you not having a drink.
Alex
I'm like, ugh, it's you. It's not even the drinking part. It's more like the. Mentally, I'm just exhausted and I don't feel obviously physically confident. Like, I'm just. I'm not comfortable currently. Like, I'm fine.
John
You let me know every day.
Alex
I know. Well, it's hard. It's hard. Again, looking at my work wardrobe, and I'm like, wow, I can't. You just looked. I'm like, look at my wardrobe and I can't wear anything.
John
Speaking of. Well, I look because I thought. For some reason, I thought, you're gonna talk about these lights. My dad's like, what? Why are the lights not this symmetrical? Why aren't they together? I'm like, I don't know, dad. It's a. It's a look.
Alex
It's a look.
John
It's a thing.
Alex
I don't know why we did it. Oh, we do have to print out these posters, though.
John
Yeah. And then he was so impressed that you did it, he's like, well, I know for a fact you didn't do it. I'm like, of course I didn't do it.
Alex
Your dad has no faith in you.
John
No.
Alex
You helped him, though, with the nursery, painting it.
John
He told your dad, by the way, a backhanded compliment slash insult. He's like, you don't believe what John did today. I'm so proud of him. He asked me for Phillips head, and he knew what that was.
Alex
Oh, no.
John
My cool dad. You're so funny.
Alex
And for context, my dad owns a construction company, and John's dad is an electrician by trade, so they are both very handy people. And it's fine, though. You're. You can't be good at everything. You're good at a lot of things.
John
I like to be good at something.
Alex
You are.
John
Name one. Give me a compliment. Go ahead, I'm listening.
Alex
You're good at making me laugh, which is all that matters.
John
Cool. All right.
Alex
One thing I want to bring up though, that has been bothering me and I mean it doesn't bother me. In all seasons of life, it's probably because my emotions and my. Can you just pay attention? Like put your tongue back in your mouth is probably.
John
I know the trick. I know the trick to do this podcast, by the way. It is don't really eat, work out and crank.
Alex
Not me. I just slammed a hamburger.
John
Well, for me it's different. And crank out coffee because I was a little flat last week and now I'm just like. We all go.
Alex
We also got like two hours of sleep that we fought and then it.
John
Was 3:30 when we shot it. I'm like, kill me. Can we get off this?
Alex
But now, like, you're paying attention. You have your listening.
John
Yeah. I mean, just be interesting though. Go ahead, say something interesting. Serious, like, keep me entertained.
Alex
Dude, I'm so over you. We are on different.
John
Are you not entertained?
Alex
Because I also have to limit my caffeine intake. So I have my decaf right here.
John
Somebody tell us that that's a big thing for pregnancy. Because I always ask Alex.
Alex
No, John, I've done all the research ever. Nobody can agree on anything. Some people are like, you can eat sushi. No, no, you can't. You can have the caffeine. No, you can't. You can drink while you breastfeed. No, you can't. Nobody has. You can't get poo. No, you can't. Everybody has conflicting opinions. You just have to do what's best for you.
John
So for me, I just don't want her doing backflips coming out of your vajayjay from five cups of caffeine.
Alex
Okay. I didn't have. I had one cup of coffee yesterday, which is allowed. But at the end of the night, I truly thought that she was going to exit my body. She's like, she found her way to the top of my cervix and I thought she was trying to escape. I really was like, is this the exit? No, I really thought that she was about to reach her hand out. That's. It's the most bizarre feeling in the world. I was like, she's. This is. This is it. She's going to. And obviously I wasn't contracting. I was not going to deliver her, but I thought that her hand was just Going to pop out or her. Something. There was something trying to find its way out.
John
I don't know how I feel about sexual relations anymore after this point.
Alex
She might grab onto your wiener next time.
John
So fucked up. No.
Alex
She is.
John
Gotcha.
Alex
You're trapped. Jesus. Disgusting.
John
You know, Josh, we're so fucked up.
Alex
Can we go back to what we were talking about before? You were talking about my daughter grabbing your wiener.
John
Our daughter. How dare you.
Alex
Okay, so going back to what I was saying earlier, when you change the topic 18,000 times. Being a content creator has its ups and downs, its pros and cons. And I was saying that it might just be because my hormones are heightened and everyone is just pissing me off. Like, I saw TikTok the other day where someone was like, someone's asked me what I'm craving for pregnancy, like, food wise, whatever. And I was like, I'm just craving for people to shut the fuck up. Like, to not talk to me. And that's currently the state that I'm in. But we get comments all the time. 99% of them are lovely and beautiful and sweet. But the percent that are not, I truly am like, what the fuck is wrong with you? They're just the ones that stick with me. And I hate that. I hate that. Like, the negative ones always stand out. Because as you guys know, a few episodes ago, we were talking about grief and someone wrote some bullshit where it was like, you think you're so unique talking about grief. What was the comment?
John
I don't know. So. So negative comments stick with you?
Alex
Yeah.
John
Really? Well, I could give a flying fuck because I just think, like, all these people hate themselves and I just think that. And then I'm like, I just feel bad.
Alex
No. And I recognize that. But sometimes, again, depending on my mood, a negative comment will just rub me the wrong way. Most of the time they don't. Because I know it's people projecting or they're miserable people or they're just trolls trying to get a reaction or.
John
But like, I don't know which they're getting right now.
Alex
Exactly. So I hate to even give this person the time of day, but this one specifically annoyed me.
John
And what was to cut you off for a second. You the reason you're bringing this up. It is a valid point because you could say this about a lot of things, which I know you're going to, but this is for other creators too, for them to think about this.
Alex
But what was the comment?
John
He. He or she was saying, like, you think you're unique talking about grief. Like, no one else is. Had this and then you're monetizing off of it.
Alex
It was like, it's not a unique experience. Like, you know, you don't have the place to speak on this. Or like, why did. Why does this fucking matter? And it got me thinking about everything in life where I was like, nothing is fucking unique. Everything has been done before. Marriage, engagement, a death in the family, graduating, a new job, breakups. But people share their experiences to feel less alone and to connect with others. So if someone were to tell you your story is not important because it's already been done before. It's happened before. You're not unique. Tell that person to go fuck themselves.
John
Tell.
Alex
Tell your story. Is your story. Like, imagine everyone thought like that. Like, movies would be made. Nothing would. Nothing is really unique. What do you think?
John
Unique.
Alex
But I do think it's still so important because I don't know, I just don't think that you should feel silenced because you might feel that your story is not unique or it's been something that someone has experienced before. Like, you have every right to speak up, to share your story, speak up to be heard. Thanks, John. Thanks. Just sound like like a DJ in the background.
John
Speak up and be heard.
Alex
Get it? Yeah. So I don't know. I think that in. Not just in content creation, but in a lot of industries. Why are you, like, move on, get to the next thing. What are you.
John
I'm not. I'm listening. I'm agreeing with you. I'm active listening. I'm active listening because I'm saying the words that you're saying.
Alex
You 100% have undiagnosed ADHD or ADHD.
John
No, it's just like, that didn't interest me.
Alex
Okay. Well, anyway, I appreciate other people sharing their stories and so don't let these twat waffles get to you. Because sometimes they annoy me. And just like, people who comment on my pregnant body, I want to punch them in the throat. I want to punch these people in the throat, too.
John
I'm like, trying to think of a creator who's like, niches. You could say about someone who's like an account just for cats. You'd be like, why are you doing all videos about cats? Like, it's not unique. Are you monetizing off of cat content? You know, saying, sure. Is that not the same thing? It's just like. Because he did say that in the comment about monetizing off of grief. I'm like, well, you're just talking about it.
Alex
Well, and my thing too is we. That's. Sorry, that's my life experience. Like, we're not number one. We're not monetizing off of it. We're just speaking on it, I guess. How would you technically monetize?
John
I guess legally we. Legally we. I guess we would be. If you consider like people watching. It's just like a view count thing. It's not like we're doing ads about grief. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like anytime someone watches your stuff.
Alex
Right, but that's what I'm saying, that you could talk about anything. Who's posting any. Anyone who's posting anything could technically be monetized. Like wedding, your engagement, your job.
John
Oh, you're getting married.
Alex
Someone talk about their gym experience like you. So are we just not to. Are we just not supposed to talk about anything? Like if. If you're a content creator or even if you're not. I'm just saying, like, people are just gonna complain about anything. And I'm complaining about this person. Complain about me.
John
So anyways, that guy or girl? Question number one.
Alex
Oh, you're ready to jump into questions?
John
Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. Are you ready?
Alex
Are. I don't know. Are we?
John
I'm ready.
Alex
I'm kind of tired.
John
Okay, don't worry. I'll read the questions and torture everyone.
Alex
Okay.
John
And then she went down the street.
Alex
I'll take the questions.
John
Is there any easy questions? Let me read one of them.
Alex
What consists of an easy question?
John
Short.
Alex
They're not really short this time you could re. You know what? Do you want to read the first one?
John
Is it easy?
Alex
You can tell me. I'm going to hand it over.
John
Our firstborn son is turning one in August and we have been told by my in laws that they will not be attending the birthday party because they are already flying into town a month later for my brother's wedding.
Alex
My.
John
My in laws are both retired and easily have the funds and means to pay for the flights. I'm upset about it, but my husband is not nearly as bothered. Am I overreacting? It was just enough. If it was any more than that, I would have fucked that question.
Alex
All the questions.
John
Popcorn, Alex.
Alex
Are more than that. So I'll take it from here.
John
Guess what? But I don't know what I just read.
Alex
So I was gonna say, did you wanna answer it since you. You don't remember?
John
No, I was like too busy slowing down. Actually, I think I read that pretty fast. But you know, to make sure I Didn't fuck up the lines.
Alex
So. Do you want me to read it to you?
John
Some let the in laws are in town, but they. Or they came a month ago and they're not coming back.
Alex
No. Okay, I'll read it to you. Our firstborn son is so.
John
He just tortured everyone.
Alex
I'm sorry, everyone. This is. But this is John's fault because.
John
So now I know. I won't do it again.
Alex
Yeah, well, you need to. It's hard, I know, to do both. Pay attention. It's like when you read a paragraph in a book and you're like, I.
John
Don'T know, maybe that's something with like dyslexia. Right.
Alex
I think you're ADD or adhd. I don't know. I mean, I'm not a doctor. You're the love doctor, John. Okay. Our firstborn son is turning one in August and we've been told by my in laws that they will not be attending the birthday party because they are already flying into town a month later for my brother's wedding. So they weren't already there. I get that. Yeah, they're just. Okay. My in laws are both retired and easily have the funds and means to pay for the flights. I'm upset about it, but my husband is not nearly as bothered. Am I overreacting?
John
Yeah, you're overreacting. Why does everyone make it about your kid is only special to you? Like everyone, everyone's just like, oh, my baby's the best. Like, no, it's not. We all going to have our own kid and you're going to love your kid and don't make people feel a certain way because they're not as involved as you are. It's nice enough that your in laws are coming that month for the wedding so you can all make your time see each other then. Also, I don't know if I'm the wrong person to ask because I've never celebrated holiday on the holiday because being in healthcare we celebrated like Christmas a couple weeks before birthday.
Alex
So it's just whatever.
John
Whatever. Even my own birthday, like my mom would we do it whenever I saw her, you know.
Alex
Right. Yeah. I mean I think she's more disappointed because it's the grandparents, it's the in laws, but I'm with you here that I'm like, then they're probably just setting a precedent where it's like, I don't. What am I going to have to do? Fly in for every birthday every year. Like a wedding is a once in a lifetime event. Whereas again they can still celebrate your son's first birthday at the. Like when they're in town for a.
John
While, I could see her being like, they didn't even come in for a second birthday.
Alex
Right?
John
But because it's never enough. And I bet you she would forget about them even sacrificing and coming for the first one. I just.
Alex
Because if it's not the birthday, then it's Christmas. If it's not Christmas, it's the baptism and then it's the.
John
I rather disappoint you right in the beginning.
Alex
That's what I'm saying. They're setting the standard and they're not letting you get excited for all the birthdays down the road.
John
God, Boohoo.
Alex
I know. I just. This isn't something that would bother me at all. I'd be like, cool. Less people to host at the party.
John
I bet you she'll be upset when they send a birthday gift. It's like, well, this gift was only $50. It should have been $100. She'd be that type of person.
Alex
I know people like this though, who are like, I can't believe my sister didn't come in.
John
Get the fuck over it. I would. Whenever my sister sees me, she'll see me. You know, like everyone's got their own shit going on and you just have to.
Alex
You just have to be fluid.
John
Fluid. That's the word I'm looking for. You just have to be. You just have to be fluid. Fluid with your life, with your friends, with your family.
Alex
Good job. Love, Dr. John. Next question. Am I the asshole for still being mad at my mother in law two years later? My mother in law was very sweet to help me plan a little reception after my elopement with my husband and we have a great relationship. She told me that her friend's daughter got married recently and she had a lot of decor we could borrow. So of course I agreed to save some money. The morning of the reception, I found out that this friend's daughter was my husband's ex girlfriend of three plus years who had always been a touchy subject for me for numerous reasons, mostly due to her ongoing relationship with his family. Obviously, there was nothing I could do about it. So we went through with the reception using table centerpieces, serving trays and decor from my husband's example. When confronted, my mother in law said she didn't tell me because she knew it would bother me. This made me even more mad, but I dropped it because I didn't want to ruin the day. Am I the asshole for still being angry with her two years later.
John
No, I don't think you are. I think. But you are the bigger person for not getting into her ass about it. Mother in law. It's not her choice to make. She should have said something to you. And that's kind of disrespectful because that is an X in your husband's previous life. Like, you don't. They shouldn't be even like involved with each other unless there's a kid or something that's making them intertwined. Like that should be completely separated.
Alex
I mean, I don't want to make that generalization because I know that there are healthy relationships that exes can have.
John
Why?
Alex
I mean, we don't have them and again, why? No, but I'm saying, like, maybe if like you dated in high school and like you were neighbors or something and it was not. I don't know. Either way, you said that this relationship with her and the family. I'm just saying you can't make a general. I know friends who are friends with their husband's exes the fuck out of here with that.
John
No, nope.
Alex
It can work for some people. My point here is she's made it clear it doesn't work for her and that's where your boundary lies and your mother in law knows that. So I don't think you're the asshole for being annoyed with her. But did your husband have no idea in this as well?
John
Like, that's true too.
Alex
It's not your fault. You were completely blindsided and didn't find out until the day of. Because I was thinking, I was like, oh, you know, like, who knows? You saved some money. Who cares? But then I was like, would I want John's ex girlfriend's decor at our wedding from her? When. No, that just feels a little. It's just wrong.
John
If I had an ex girlfriend. You're so full of. If I had an ex girlfriend even, even in high school and I was friends with them, you'd be like, that's what I'm saying.
Alex
I don't agree. I don't think it would work with us. But there are people who. They make that dynamic work. I'm not gonna judge them. Or they claim that it works. So that's why I'm like, you can't. I'm not gonna make it.
John
I feel like it's very hypocritical to say why.
Alex
I'm telling you I would not be okay with that. I would cut a.
John
But you're saying, but it's okay.
Alex
For others, for other people. They claim that it works for them. So am I supposed to be like, you're lying? Yeah.
John
Yeah.
Alex
Some people can't hear you nodding your head, John. Yeah. You are supposed to call them.
John
You're a liar.
Alex
So I don't know.
John
I don't. No. You shouldn't be friends with your ex. No. Because it's always gonna be some sort of slight tension. And anyone's like, well, I. There's. I'm fine with my ex. No, you're not. Shut up. And you're. And your partner isn't fully. Okay.
Alex
It doesn't sound like her husband has a relationship, but I guess maybe he does if she still feels like she's has.
John
Well, the mother does.
Alex
That's what I'm saying.
John
If I was the son, I'd be like, what the. What are you doing?
Alex
Right. Especially do you want. If there's no kid involved because there's.
John
No way he's that clueless like that. He doesn't realize his wife's going to get in his ass or be upset about this. I'd be like, mom, what are you doing here? You're going to make it worse for me. There's no way. This is not. This is going to be a good outcome.
Alex
Right?
John
Whatever.
Alex
You're not the asshole. I mean.
John
No, you're not.
Alex
But I would bring this up to your husband because if it's a point of contention that she still has a relationship with the family, that's on your husband. To nip that in the buddy.
John
Nip that in the bud. Nip that in the butt.
Alex
I'm pretty sure the saying I used to think it was, but. But it's bud. Like bud of a flower. I believe.
John
Plucking the bud of the flower off.
Alex
I believe so. I believe it's bud.
John
Just making shit up.
Alex
Google it.
John
Nip it in the bud.
Alex
Yeah.
John
So idiom that means to stop something at an early stage before it develops into a larger problem. Okay. Good job.
Alex
Apologize.
John
I'm sorry.
Alex
Thank you.
John
And that is unhealthy marriage right there. Apologize when you're wrong.
Alex
Sure. Next question. When my son was born, my husband and I had two rules. Hand sanitizer before you touch him and no kissing. My mother in law refused to follow the no kissing rule. She would kiss him and say, well, it was just his head or it was just the back of his head or it was just his wrist or whatever loophole she invented for herself after she had done it multiple times. My husband kind of blew up at her he sent her a text reiterating the boundary, calling her out for crossing it and introducing consequences that she wouldn't be able to hold him anymore. If she doesn't stop, she lost it. She has since announced that she'll be leaving our lives since we apparently hate her, even though we've never said we do or that we want her out of our lives. She said being a grandparent hasn't lived up to her expectations because she pictured snuggles and kisses. Everyone keeps saying it'll die down and it'll all be fine, but do I want it to? Even if she begged for our forgiveness and vowed to never cross a boundary again, the damage is done. I'm picturing awkward family visits and holidays and anxiety when she's around my kid. Do we try to mend fences for the sake of our son having a relationship with his grandmother, or do we protect our own peace?
John
I agree with your whole boundary thing. I also think you and your husband and your mother in law are all overreacting as far as like cutting each other out of each other's lives. That's stupid. I mean, just give it time. But she needs to respect your boundaries on that. How like, susceptible are infants to disease? Like in the beginning. Because I get that. Like, I think we've talked about that. Like, no kissing. Right. And then unless they do you see that video where they. She put the plastic, the Saran Wrap over her face?
Alex
Yeah.
John
I'll just Saran Wrap everyone's face before they kiss her.
Alex
I don't. It doesn't matter. Even if babies weren't susceptible, I think it's a boundary that you put into place. She disrespected it several times. And so, yeah, I think that you're allowed to introduce those consequences that you said where she doesn't. She's not allowed to hold him anymore unless she stops her reaction. She overreacted. But now I think you guys not wanting to make amends, I think is also overreacting. This is just emotions.
John
Everyone's heated right now.
Alex
Yeah. And it's like between the new baby. Like, this isn't going to be like this forever. And you know, you could take your time to let it die down because I do think that the emotions will eventually stay simmer down. But I don't think ruining your relationship and cutting her out of your life is the answer either. Communication. Like, we've all. We've had some tough times with our families too. It's just, just even like with loss and boundaries and it just, it's uncomfortable. But you just have to have an adult conversation when emotions aren't as high.
John
Easier said than done. I'm so bad at that.
Alex
Yeah, but don't you feel better when you have that conversation?
John
I feel better when I lose my mind in the moment. I'm like, oh, I'm so glad.
Alex
You say that every time. No, no you don't.
John
In the moment.
Alex
Because then in the moment. So again, it's like a short lived satisfaction.
John
I'm not saying I'm right.
Alex
So, so do you feel better after, you know, after you resolve it and like an adult?
John
If I'm like, right, right.
Alex
Yeah.
John
Then I feel good. I feel good. If I'm like, I need to prove this point and I destroyed. I'm right and I feel good.
Alex
Okay. John and I rarely have, rarely have like real fights ever. But whenever we have like little banters, he loves to go. When he just like landed a point, it could be completely wrong. But in your head you think you're right. You go, oh my God, I just owned you. Oh my God, I just killed that point. What's your rebuttal, Alex? What's your rebuttal? I'm like, am I arguing with the first guy, Crater? Oh my God, I just pwned you. That's how it feels. You're so ridiculous. And you talking about arguing with other people like that too.
John
Like Don destroyed you also.
Alex
You like hardly ever argue with other people too. Where it's to the point where I'm like, oh, John just owned you.
John
Like you would never say that you were my hype woman behind me. Oh, John.
Alex
Because that's how you act when you talk about your arguments or at least when you argue.
John
I would love to be your, your hype woman if you would actually get confrontational with other people.
Alex
I can't. I don't care.
John
I'd be like, alex just fucked you up.
Alex
My issue is like, I let people act the way that they act and then I like draw that boundary afterwards. I'm just like, you're a dumb bitch because now you'll never see me again. Exactly. I'm like, I don't need to address it.
John
People could walk out and be like, wow, that was such a great hangout with Alex. And Alex, you'll never, you'll never see me again.
Alex
I don't care. Again. I'll give you some chances. But like once you cross it, I'm.
John
Like, yo, that's next level. That's elite.
Alex
And then I just, I truly, I'm like, it's out of my hands. Now it's fairy dust.
John
So they're fairy dust.
Alex
What were we talking about?
John
Next question. That's what we're talking about.
Alex
Yeah, I just think you guys are all overreacting here.
John
So let it settle down. Let the dust settle. Because first the dust was in the air and now you need to let that dust settle.
Alex
Next question. I'm looking for some advice on navigating our family life. Lately I, 30, and my husband, 36, have had nothing but an eventful marriage these past six years. We were married right before COVID had our first daughter in the middle of a lockdown, endured my diagnosis and healing from a rare brain condition and now are expecting ourselves second child as a high risk pregnancy. Our relationship has grown from young kids to mature adults who now understand each other more deeply than ever before, although we obviously struggled. I say all of these things because recently my parents, who are currently our five year old's primary caregiver outside of school, have become overly critical of my husband and unfairly compare him to my sister's new husband. My brother in law is very different in personality than my husband. My husband is blunt with dry humor while my brother in law is very soft spoken and perceivably gentle. Recently my parents have shamed my husband for not taking days off from work when I'm out sick, thinking he's being a workaholic but not understanding how strained we are financially preparing for this new baby. They criticize his parenting even though he is an equal partner and uses all his days off, which he gets very few of, to be there for her. They have alluded to suggesting we never should have gotten married at all, which is great. Grossly unfair since he has earnestly sought their approval since proposing to me and now we can't avoid them or stop talking to them because they are our primary source of child care in a state where child care is astronomical. What advice do you have for navigating critical parents slash in laws? Have you ever dealt with this? And what did you or what would.
John
You have done first off when you said I'm looking for. And I just was just think I'm looking for a man in finance.
Alex
Oh my God.
John
Blue eye. And then that was in my head for like the first couple minutes.
Alex
And then what happened after that? What happened after that, John?
John
And then I. And then I heard the rest of the three paragraphs of a question that was critically judgmental in laws, parents.
Alex
I mean, just comparing husbands. Yeah, her parents.
John
Seems like they didn't like it from Day one is the gist I'm getting from this. It just seems like if he's doing all the right things and they're still on him, it's like they just don't like him. So he could take all the days off, he can get five promotions and they'll probably still hate him.
Alex
Find something to be.
John
So don't worry about what they think as long as they keep doing child care, though.
Alex
I mean, my thing too is like, who the fudge cares? I mean, if you guys are happy and secure in your relationship and they're helping you with your child, like, I wouldn't start.
John
Teens are like, assholes. Everyone's got one and just try to like, brush it off, as annoying as that is. But they're helping you, so just suck it up.
Alex
Yeah, I don't really have much other advice because every to your point, everybody has opinions and downsize.
John
Sell your house, wherever you live, move. Move into an apartment. I don't know, go somewhere where it's cheaper so then you don't have to deal with them.
Alex
Right. If it's that bad that you don't want to utilize them for help for child care. I mean, I. I also don't want.
John
To shit on this person, but it seems like we get a lot of questions like this. Like my parents, you know, are putting their two cents in about who I'm dating or my job or whatever. And then meanwhile, it's like they're still living with their parents or they, they rely on their parents financially or whatever. It's like, suck it up. You didn't set yourself up enough to where you don't need their support. It's like, so if you're gonna ask.
Alex
For their help, I'm not gonna pretend like it's easy though. But I don't think that. I don't think that you should take abuse, verbal abuse, mental abuse. But in a situation like this where it's really just petty comments like, if you want to call them out, go for it. But I just don't think, like, there's no reason to cause a riff where, like, is there really one? Like, they're just talking shit. And, you know, if you want to call them out, who the fuck cares? You know? But like, I don't think to what your point was earlier, I think they're going to have an opinion on your husband either way. You just have to continue doing, Doing you.
John
I'm going to throw this out there and I don't know if this helps or not. I wonder if, like, Say they do pay them, like just an amount, whatever. Like less than what it would be for child care to kind of like set the tone of like, I'm gonna pay you for your baby care services, whatever. It's like, I don't want to hear any complaining, nothing like that. Like here, I don't know, would that help at all?
Alex
I don't think they're, the parents are complaining about the fact that they're helping with their child. I think that she's just sick of them comparing. I'm just wondering.
John
I get that. But I'm wondering if that would help at all, like calming them down a little bit. I don't know. Just like.
Alex
Well, that's where. If you wanted to have a conversation to get to the bottom of where these negative comments are coming from. And that's the thing.
John
Do you want me to pay you?
Alex
You can, but I don't think the money has to do with it. It's like their parents don't. Her parents don't like her husband. And so that's where you can have a conversation with them and say, what? What's up?
John
What is it? What is it that you don't like about him?
Alex
Yeah. And if it's something that you can't change, they just have to learn to accept it. You know, if you've accepted your husband and you're fine with how your husband is, that's all that matters. And that's what you have to explain to them. You know, I don't think that you have to blow it up and make it this big dramatic thing, but if it's important to you, yeah, you can have a conversation around it, but.
John
Cool.
Alex
Next question. My best friend's future mother in law bullied her into making all five of her fiance's sisters bridesmaids. And now none of them are upholding their bridesmaids daughter duties. And as a maid of honor. It's pissing me off. None of them are going to her bachelorette party. Two of them are younger, college aged and one of them is pregnant. But the other two have no excuse. And now three of them are saying they cannot financially contribute to the bridal shower. The entire bridal party was supposed to split the expenses. My best friend is saying she will pay for the three sisters parts, giving them excuses like they're young, they can't afford it, and she doesn't want to put the stress on them, especially the pregnant one. But I find this so annoying. If they want to be labeled as bridesmaids, they should do their Part the bride also should not have to pay for her own bridal shower. Would I be the asshole if I told them they had to contribute?
John
I feel like this is so far beyond me at this point. I'm like, this petty bullshit.
Alex
No, it is. And that's what I was thinking when I read this question where I was like, dude, bigger fish to fry. Your friend is saying it doesn't matter in the moment. No.
John
But the bride that they're in, it's like, that is a big deal. Probably where they're at. I don't know, people, college age ones.
Alex
Okay, right. But what I'm saying is your, the bride is saying it's not a big deal. It should not be a big deal to you. Also, I don't know where you guys live or like culturally maybe, but like the bridal shower, the bridesmaids contribute financially to that. I didn't ask anyone to pay or expect anyone to pay for my bridal shower.
John
I bet you she's probably just like, has a little anxiety over it because she's like, well, if they're not paying, I know I'll end up paying more Somehow. I could see that thought because I would be, I guess pissed too. Like if I'm contributing and these mofos aren't, but they're still the same bridesmaid as I am.
Alex
Sounds like it's the labeling that's getting you annoyed. But that's why I'm like, you just got to let this shit go. Because if it doesn't annoy your friend, the bride, and it shouldn't annoy you.
John
But she's contributing and they're not, I guess that's whether it annoys the bride or not. You're still contributing. So it could annoy you because you have skin in the game.
Alex
You're the maid of honor. Either way, like you're the one who's going to be up there getting the, you know, praise. Yeah. As the one who organizes and put this all together, I really just think like bridesmaids, it's like, it could be very dramatic in the moment, years ahead. Like you're not going to fucking give a shit about this.
John
And we could say that all day long. But in the moment it's a big deal. And it's a big deal to anyone who's like younger too.
Alex
It would be a big deal if the bride thought that this was a big deal. If it's not a big deal for her and the bride is financially contributing for her. And these are her sister in laws, like I don't think it should be a big deal to you. Who cares if it's not going to impact you financially? If it is, I understand, but like, and that's where I think. I don't think you would be the asshole if you ask them to contribute if it was hurting you financially. But if the bride has no problem, no qualms paying for on their behalf.
John
Why does it matter counter to that? If you're in her shoes and you're like, I am contributing to this bachelorette party, this, this and that, and they're not. I know when we're there somehow I'll probably be spending more money whether it's like getting the rounds of drinks or the decorations. That's what I would be thinking.
Alex
You think it's more.
John
These people don't have any money, so.
Alex
Well, they're not going to the bachelorette party. None of them are going to the bachelorette party.
John
Okay, so they're not going to anything. They're just going to the wedding.
Alex
And, and I think she's more annoyed that they're not contributing, but they're still being labeled as bridesmaids and they're not contributing.
John
I mean, I, even though I'm old as I guess I still would be mad at the labeling. I'd be like, you know what? Well, you should be a bridesmaid. I'd tell the bride, fuck them.
Alex
I mean, but it's her family now, you know, like, she's probably picking and choosing her battles too, where she's like, dude, let's just fucking get through.
John
That's the high road. I know that's. Yeah, that's the way to go.
Alex
But weddings, as much as you want to be like, it's all about me, you know, it's. No, it's all about compromise. Because now you're blending two families. Everyone has a fucking opinion and it's like you just want to get through.
John
It as soon as the bridesmaids be helping the maid of honor. So if they're not helping her do shit, even not financially, you, yeah, I'd be fucking.
Alex
But as long as you're going to.
John
Stand up there with me. But as you fudgeing contributed, I'd be elbow checking every throat punching bitches, boom.
Alex
Deserve boom here only I deserve this spot.
John
You all better get behind me. But I get behind me.
Alex
As long as the bride is aware, which she is, I think that's fine. If the bride was not aware of this situation that was happening and this was all fully falling on your.
John
Then in my Head. I would just be like, look at me. I'm helping her with her hair, helping her with the makeup. What are these lazy hoes doing? Nothing. They're fucking drinking their sangria and mimosas over there laughing, and I'm working my ass off. You know what? I'm on your side. I would be pissed. Burn the bridge. Tell the bride that's fucked up. They should even be her sister in laws.
Alex
So should she tell John, you would be the worst girl ever. Like, I wouldn't be. I don't think I could be.
John
I would be perfect on reality show 100%.
Alex
I know.
John
Stir the drama all the time. I'd had some loyal people, but the other ones, I'd be like, do you know what Bethany said?
Alex
I think I might. I might have to divorce you if you decided to do reality. Because I don't want to be brought down with you.
John
Because I know that you, you're a good person. I know.
Alex
I just like. I know that you would get the villain edit and I couldn't be. I couldn't be attached to that.
John
I just. I cannot keep my mouth shut when they're stupid people. I just am like, what? And then as I'm getting older, it's getting worse. Don't be around me.
Alex
I know John.
John
Or unorganized people or just like, just get your shit together.
Alex
No, I love this story. A few months ago, John is talking to me about this qualm, like this internal battle that he's having with someone else. Like, it's not even a legitimate argument, but he like wanted to set a boundary with someone. So he's like, you know what I think I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna say this. And John lays out this out of pocket sentence or statement that he's planning to say to this person. And I was like, oh my God. If John says this to this person who means no harm, like, truly would just be at the receiving end of, of. I don't want to say hate, but like annoyance from you. I'm like, John, I think has some mental health problems here. And I said that to you and you were like, wait, you wouldn't say that? And I'm like, no, I would truly question your ethics as a person or just your self awareness as a person if you actually made the statement to this person.
John
I have this in my notes app. Choosing a partner that keeps you in check. Not the blind leading the blind. Need a partner to put it in perspective. That was in my notes.
Alex
You're welcome.
John
I knew that I did that.
Alex
It's not a easy job. It's kind of entertaining.
John
Oh, because you're perfect.
Alex
I'm not saying that. You keep me in check too.
John
Thank you. But that's so true. I was like, I shouldn't say that. You're like, no, no, don't say that.
Alex
I was like, I think. I think it will do more damage. It will do more harm than good.
John
Nothing takes up more mental space for me than like text that can go 9,000 different ways. And I'm just like, what the fuck does that mean?
Alex
Best thing to do is sleep on something for 24 hours.
John
Never.
Alex
There, there you have it, guys.
John
Give yourself two minutes. Actually, you know what? As soon as you see the text, type it on the phone and just hit send without even thinking about what you. What it was.
Alex
This is why. This is why we have trouble making friends.
John
Close your eyes.
Alex
You just. The Holy Ghost takes over. This is. Yeah. This is why it's just you and me. This is why I'm your only friend. Wants to go back to la. I'm like. And make for friends.
John
I didn't make a single friend in la. We were there a year and a half. How do you meet people as an adult? Intramurals. And then I couldn't find parking. Anyway. That's a whole different thing.
Alex
I'm your friend.
John
Yeah, unfortunately.
Alex
Next question. My father in law always greets me and says goodbye with a kiss on the cheek. And I really wish he wouldn't. It's not sexual or inappropriate in that nature as he does this to everyone, all of his grown children and their spouses. My husband has also expressed his annoyance with it. The last time we met up with my father in law, my husband asked me in the car before we walked in. How can I get my dad to stop kissing me on the cheek? I'm a grown adult male. I told him that I felt the same way but that he should ask for advice from his siblings on the matter since his dad could be difficult to deal with. My husband and his siblings don't have a close relationship with their dad due to some things in their childhood, their dad could overreact.
John
The does that mean their dad can.
Alex
Overreact and be really sensitive at times as well? So my husband and I don't know the best way to establish this boundary without creating turmoil. For reference, my husband and I are both 32. How do we have this conversation with my father in law that a simple hug as a greeting and goodbye is more than enough?
John
Was he touched?
Alex
It doesn't say that, John.
John
Like I he some things that happened in their childhood. What happened?
Alex
They wrote it's not sexual or inappropriate in nature. I'm not.
John
Okay, you are. You are going to put. You were going to tell me that disclaimer if I didn't say anything.
Alex
It says it in the question literally. Where is in the first sentence of the question that I just read you? It says it's not sexual or inappropriate in that nature as he does this to everyone.
John
That part that the cheek his.
Alex
Correct.
John
That doesn't have to be sexual in nature. But what about as a child?
Alex
Where. Where does it say that anything was sexual from their child?
John
She didn't say anything. She said what are you talking went down when they were children.
Alex
And it says because he's difficult to deal with, not that they were touched as kids.
John
Read that. Read that again. No, not the whole thing. Read that sentence.
Alex
My husband and his siblings don't have a close relationship with their dad due to some things in their childhood. Their dad can overreact and be really sensitive.
John
Their dad can overreact. Was there a period and new sight?
Alex
There wasn't. Their dad can overreact and be really sensitive as at times as well.
John
Okay, that seems like she's talking about a different.
Alex
Why does point in time immediately.
John
She's talking about a different point in time. He can also be difficult and overreact as well. That's separate than the childhood porn thing. There's no child touching dude stuff going on.
Alex
Pretend that that part does not exist.
John
I'm not going to pretend.
Alex
John. She starts off the question. You're literally like losing the plot here and I'm going to move on unless like you get it together and lock it up. You have to stop assuming things that are not literally in the context of the question. She says it's not sexual or inappropriate. Done and done. Okay, so just leave it at that. Because when I read this question I was like, damn, if this was someone in my family who doesn't like getting kissed on the cheek, you would have to switch families because it's just an Italian thing. But now you think that it's sexual when she literally said it says it wasn't.
John
That's not what. You're reading it how you want to read it. You're reading it how you want to read it.
Alex
I'm reading. I'm reading the words of the question. You're just pretending to read right now.
John
Okay. My husband and his siblings don't have a close relationship with their dad due to Some things in their childhood friends, period.
Alex
It could be anything, period.
John
Yeah, I know. It could be anything. It could be something bad, period. Their dad can overreact and be really sensitive at times as well. Something totally separate. So we're going to agree to disagree.
Alex
So where is porn in that question at all?
John
I'm just saying.
Alex
Child porn.
John
I don't know. Something. Something happened as a kid, so I get it. If something happened as a kid.
Alex
John.
John
No kissing.
Alex
Let me know. Kissing. Let me change this question for you to maybe make it a little bit easier to understand. I don't. Your parents kiss me on the cheek every time I see them. I don't like it. How would I. How would I tell them, no, I don't want to be kissed on the cheek? How would you.
John
Stranger danger. Don't. No touchy.
Alex
But they're not strangers to me.
John
I get it. I mean, that's. That's awkward. That would be an awkward thing to have to say. But, like, if it's cultural, like, again, Italians kissing. Your cousin kisses me on the cheek all the time. I don't really want to be kissed, but I let her kiss me on the cheek.
Alex
There's not one person in my family that I don't think greets someone without a cheek kiss.
John
I know. I'm not a huge fan.
Alex
Your family does it too.
John
I know. I'm not a huge fan of it.
Alex
Oh.
John
But guess what? I just bury it down and I just let it. Ha. I actually don't really care that much, but I'm not, like, a huge fan. If you go in for the kiss thing, like, I'll do it back, but, like, that's not my. My go to move.
Alex
It's funny because I remember, like, growing up in New York. That's how the majority of people I know, because when I went to North Carolina for school, I remember meeting people and, like, friends who now I had established, and it would literally just be like the most distant hug, and I would go in for a kiss on the cheek, like, how are you?
John
I know.
Alex
And I'm like, oh, my God. No one does a cheek kiss here.
John
It's funny how it really is different, the north and the South.
Alex
Like New York, just cultures in general, or similarly. Going back to Love island, one of the characters, Amaya, she's Dominican and she calls a lot of the guys Babe, baby daddy, Poppy. Not Daddy or Poppy, but she just calls him babe. And some. Someone else stood up for her and was like, that's part of our culture. Like, everybody just naturally says Babe, baby, it's not derogatory. It's not because like she necessarily is attracted to you. It's just like I love when someone calls me honey, babe.
John
Like my sister hates that really like a way somebody was calling her hun and she was like, I, she hated it.
Alex
So I mean, everyone.
John
So everyone's different.
Alex
Yeah, everyone's different. But in a situation like this where I don't wrap up, it's sexual.
John
They're coming in. Done.
Alex
Wow, that's such a great tip, John.
John
What are you gonna do? I mean, if you hate it that, that much, say it. Just be prepared for the blowback from the dad. But like, again, I'm not saying he's right, but you're gonna get into an argument with him or he's gonna be uncomfortable forever around you.
Alex
And there's a, a bunch of different routes that you could go. You could be blunt and just say, hey, I'm not like into. This is not how I like, like to be greeted.
John
This is my thing.
Alex
Well, yeah, this is my thing. But like, you know, love a hug. Because again, I don't know how to beat around the bush. Unless you wanted to just avoid and be like, I'm sick today or like, I'm feeling.
John
That's gonna be awful. Because that's gonna be fun.
Alex
You're just avoidant. But like, you could also do what the people in North Carolina do where they just dodge you and you just keep distance with your face.
John
So I like the first one downplaying it. Be like, hey. Just like, hey. That's not just really my thing, you know, good luck. It's gonna go horrible either way.
Alex
I can't imagine that. Just because again, like in the culture that we both grew up in, you're one slip away from making out with your in laws.
John
Do you ever like, by accidentally think about kissing, like you actually kiss like your parents on the lips or something?
Alex
I think I've almost done that to my mom once where I've like gone in and I'm like, I almost kissed. But people sometimes do kiss their parents on the lips.
John
No, that's not for me.
Alex
Do you think that you'll kiss our daughter on the lips? No, I don't think so.
John
I'm also not like an affectionate person like that.
Alex
But I don't know, maybe when she's here.
John
I mean, I'll be affectionate to our child of course, but I'm not like a, I'm not a lip kisser.
Alex
Me neither.
John
I'll kiss on the forehead or the cheek or the cheek? I guess probably the forehead.
Alex
Yeah, I don't know. I don't.
John
Moving on, moving on, moving on, moving on.
Alex
Next question. My husband and I had a baby last year and even though it's been the hardest year of our lives, it has also been the best. We have started talking about number two soon, but my in laws keep saying just enjoy for now. A long gap between the kids is good for you and your marriage. I feel like it's advice I can't follow because they only had one child. No disrespect, but I feel like they are giving advice on something they know nothing about. I'm scared of disappointing them. But at the end of the day, if we decide we want three kids, I don't want to be too old and therefore high risk for the last pregnancy. What do you think? Do I just go with my gut on this? Yes.
John
It's funny, it's like you don't want to take their advice, but you want to take our advice. We don't even have a kid yet, so how, how would I know how to answer it? You should do what you want to do. Don't live your life how others think you should live your life. You bring up a good point. They only had one kid, so how would they know? But from What I've seen, 202 at least looks rough.
Alex
But if that's something that you want, you know what I mean? Like, I just think that's such a personal choice and like you're scared of disappointing them. Who cares?
John
Well, they'll also be fine. Like, yeah, like if your in laws are loving people, I'm sure they'll be happy either way. And they see that little baby face like oh my God.
Alex
Right, Exactly. I just don't think that this is something that you can really take their opinion with a lot of weight because number one, they also only have one. But number two, if you want to under two, who cares? Like it's going to be your journey. You're. Unless like they're helping you and they're like, we can't handle to, you know.
John
The responsibility of helping should be like, you should figure that out. Be like, are they helping you? And if they are, you'd be like, hey, listen, I'm not going to put that on you.
Alex
Yeah, but if they're not involved in any way, go do what you think.
John
Yeah, cool.
Alex
Next question. I went through a pregnancy loss and quietly shared the news with my in laws. We live with them. We asked for privacy and time to allow us to process this before we announced the loss to the rest of the family. My mother in law, however, deliberately went against this request and and by nightfall had already called to tell her daughter, my sister in law, about the loss and hid this from us. As she began discussing the situation. She felt it was her right as the mother of my husband to share his news and completely disregarded my feelings and my request for time. When I confronted her, she began saying that she did not care, threw her hands up and said, I said it and I'm not sorry and I don't care because of the heated argument. She then turned to my husband and said, is this how you want to continue a marriage with a woman like this? A woman who is controlling and is angry because she wanted to control the situation. I was so pissed and I said, I don't know how you feel like I'm the one who is controlling when I had zero control of this situation because you took that away from me as a mother of a baby we just lost. She does not see how she's in the wrong and she continues to create a toxic environment for us. How do I make my husband understand that it's time for them to move out and give us our own space and peace? This is our home. I don't want my marriage to have problems because of this constant negativity.
John
I feel like I would have more of like a crazy reaction if it wasn't so blatantly obvious how fucked up this person is.
Alex
Right.
John
I mean, oh, I don't know why that took all the wind out of myself. Like fuck this person. Because it's just like so obvious that the mother in law is a horrible, horrible person. It's none of your. You're lucky that your daughter in law even confided. Confided in you and talk to you about it and then you went behind her back and did some shit like that.
Alex
I think some people, people who are mentally unwell just like to be the first one with news. They like to be the one with the tea, the one to share the gossip and they want to be the source. So I think some people feed.
John
Those are people that are have nothing going on.
Alex
Correct. And that's what I'm saying. Like, but then the fact that you called her out, she knew she was in the wrong and double down. Yeah. And didn't want to take accountability. So number one, we've talked about this several times before too. Like when you marry someone, you are each other's immediate family. Like it is you two. Nobody else Honestly should really be able to penetrate your relationship. And so I believe you and your husband have to get on the same page about this. About what your relationship, what you want that to look like. Because I think them living in your home, if it's your house house, you have every right to keep your peace and tell them you need to move on, you need to get out of my home. And I think your husband should support you with that.
John
It's not your kids responsibilities to also take care of the parents. It's not. And anyone who's having a kid because they are worried about their who's going to take care of me when they're older, it's like that is such a selfish thing. And I'm just thinking they're living with them. Why are they living with you? Are you helping them out? Are they helping you out? But I just like hate. I don't think that should be a norm anymore. Like don't ever put that.
Alex
I don't know, I mean I don't want to say it shouldn't be a norm because culturally like I just, I think if it works for you, that's great but if it's creating a toxic.
John
Environment for you, there's no way, there's no tension ever. When there's like other people in the mix living in your home. Like your in laws, safe space between you and your. Because the minute you throw anyone else in the mix besides your partner, there's going to be some sort of point of contention.
Alex
I don't know. I think it can work when there's trust, when there's boundaries, when there's certain like rules in play. But like your mother in law clearly does not. She doesn't respect you. Like you asked to keep this quiet and she lives in your home. So of course you're gonna share this information. I mean not that you had to but like again you trusted her with that information. Now you know that she doesn't respect you, she's not trustworthy and she doesn't honestly even respect your husband, her son. If she's willing to do that, do that to both of you. Like this was a mutual loss between both of you. Obviously more it's going to be more emotional towards you. But I just think that she, your.
John
Husband better have your back.
Alex
Like yes, exactly.
John
She's totally in the wrong. Now I'm starting to feel bad about the in law thing. I get in laws taking care culturally, whatever. I just don't like the notion that people have kids because they are worried they're Gonna have no one taking care of them when they're older. That's bullshit.
Alex
Why do you think that?
John
Because that's what I was talking about. So I just want to counter back to saying that.
Alex
Oh, I was like, that has nothing to do with it. Question though.
John
I want to know why they're living with you again.
Alex
It could be a multitude of reasons, like financial, maybe someone was sick, who knows? But I just think it's clearly not working. The fact that she's even saying she doesn't respect you. She doesn't respect you, but she's also now judging your marriage and trying to get your husband to be on her side. Absolutely not. Get the fuck out of my house.
John
Crazy.
Alex
Crazy. So no, you are not in the wrong here. And you have to have a conversation with your husband and let's let him know that you guys are a team and your mother in law disrespected.
John
You both get the out.
Alex
Get. Well, they have to get the out. You don't have to go anywhere. Unless he doesn't agree with you.
John
Then it's like, then you get the out of it. The mother in law get the out.
Alex
Right?
John
Yeah.
Alex
Or if he doesn't agree, you get the out of that relationship. But that's it. That's all she wrote.
John
That was a good one. I felt, I felt good. I felt good, I felt engaged. I felt, you know, going against the grain, you know.
Alex
But you had, you had coffee before this. You had a lot of coffee the last time too, but you just weren't, you weren't feeling yourself last time. I mean, I wasn't either. Oh, wait. But we did used to do a segment on the last season. I mean, I don't know how many times we did it or forgot it, but. Share a secret. So we got a secret message and I wanted to read this because like that's.
John
Did we say in the last episode?
Alex
No, no, we didn't share any secrets.
John
So how do people send secrets?
Alex
You could do it in the same spot that you ask a question. You just like toggle, share a secret. Instead of.
John
We have like a toggle thing. That's pretty cool.
Alex
John's never been on our website, so. Yeah, he wouldn't know which. We do need to redo our website. It's. It's old, but anyway, share a secret. Here it is. I cheated on my fiance two months before our wedding with my best friend who is also my maid of honor. We both agreed to keep it a secret since the wedding was so close and I regretted it. But a month later, I was feeling so guilty, so I told my fiance, and he was furious. Rightfully so. But he retaliated by sleeping with the same friend I cheated with. And now I'm pissed at not only him, but my friend because she seems to be down to fuck anyone that is available, even if they're about to get married or only doing it to get back at their fiance. Sounds like a messy situation.
John
Tit for tat. You guys could just be a throuple.
Alex
Yeah, it sounds like a lover's triangle quarrel.
John
That's gonna be an interesting marriage. Good luck.
Alex
Are you. Yeah. I'd be interested to see if you're getting married.
John
She'd even say, like, they need to get married. They should have. Should she? Should. She should have said that.
Alex
This friend, though, has no loyalty. Not to you or to your husband.
John
No. No.
Alex
Yeah. All right, John, what's your thoughts?
John
Super fun.
Alex
What's your wreck for the week?
John
My wreck isn't like a. I don't know. I was trying to think of something I'm always going back to earlier in the episode. People, like, ask me about what's my routine and stuff like that. I'm just trying to survive. But basically, I love the StairMaster. And I recommend everybody using the StairMaster. Yeah, because you pour sweat. I put a little weighted vest on. Just five pounds. Whatever. Put my phone up, play a game. I don't. And you know what? You don't have to do it right. It might hurt your back a little bit, but don't do it right. Because I lean up against it and I just watch stuff.
Alex
Do you think why. That maybe that's why your legs are a little bit skinny?
John
No, because I still lift my legs twice a week.
Alex
No, I know, but like, you know, the excess in cardio, perhaps I'm trying.
John
To do less, but if you're just trying to shed some weight, get on the StairMaster, you will shed. And another workout tip. Skull crushers. Do you know what a skull crusher is?
Alex
Yeah. You put the it over your head and you. It's worse.
John
You want those triceps to pop out. Skull crush is another thing. I do this motion up and as an ot, I'm just going to hell because I can't think of.
Alex
When I do that. All that I think about is, like, Final Destination and the barbell crashing on your face. That's all.
John
I'm holding it. It's not like. Yeah, but what if it's not like it's on the rack?
Alex
And the rack, but, like, what if you dropped it? What if it slipped out of your hands?
John
It's not that heavy. It won't kill me. So I do 10 like this, 10 like this, people listening and 10 like 10, 10, 10. Well, you better watch the episode if you want to know what I do for my triceps. 10, 10 like this, like this. And that's workout tips by John.
Alex
Wow, John. Maybe instead of like trying to demonstrate on the podcast, you could make a reel about it or something. Not going to because this is probably more audio than visual.
John
10, 10, 10.
Alex
Except for the people on YouTube. You just got a treat.
John
What's your wreck?
Alex
My Wreck is because we had a great summer weekend and I just feel like everyone was lounging by the pool, drinking cocktails. My wreck is my favorite non alcoholic wine, which is Spring in a Bottle by Wolfer Estate. It's the Rose. It's just like, it's fresh. It's, you know, I feel like a lot of non alk stuff is super high in carbs. Like this is low carb, low calorie. It's just delicious.
John
It's delightful and the bottle looks cool.
Alex
It's. It's not the real thing, but like of course, but it's just good enough, you know, better than nothing sparkling. It's fresh, it's very, it's springing about.
John
It's better than most that I've tasted because everything else kind of tastes like.
Alex
I just don't like sweet juice. And this is like very dry. I don't know. I've really enjoyed it. And they're a local.
John
I know the other one, but that should be your other wreck next time.
Alex
Athletic Brewing. Yeah, they're good too. But no, I don't want it to all be okay.
John
Then we should bring it now because Athletic Brewing is really good too. And that's beer. There's like IPAs, light beer.
Alex
The majority of them are good. I had one the other day where I was like ill. But Spring in a Bottle, it's a local vineyard on Long Island. So if you are going out to the Hamptons this summer, stop by Wolfer Estate. Love it there. Also not sponsored, but great, great non alcoholic wine.
John
Probably one of my favorite vineyards.
Alex
Not drinking school.
John
Yeah, nice little vibe. Cool. Anyways, guys like subscribe, comment, email, do all those things.
Alex
Thank you so much for tuning in. If you want to follow us, you can follow us everywhere at Give it tome straight podcast.com and you can email us at hello, Give it to Me Straight Podcast. Or you can send an anonymous question in our show notes. Yay.
John
I almost said like subscribe. Email again, but do that. And until next week, ciao, ciao.
Alex
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Podcast Summary: Give It To Me Straight - Episode 60: In-Laws, Arguments, and Unwanted Kisses
Host Overview: Give It To Me Straight is a candid podcast hosted by the Dear Media husband and wife duo, Alex and John. They delve into unfiltered discussions on a variety of topics, including sex, money, and relationships, providing dual perspectives without shying away from the good, the bad, or the ugly.
In Episode 60, Alex and John navigate the complexities of dealing with in-laws, managing household arguments, and addressing uncomfortable social interactions. Through personal anecdotes, listener questions, and their trademark humor, they offer insights and advice on maintaining healthy family dynamics and setting personal boundaries.
Alex and John begin by reflecting on their recent experiences, including parents visiting, nursery preparations, and a pool party. They discuss the challenges of balancing household tasks with familial interactions.
The conversation shifts to handling in-laws who overstep boundaries, particularly concerning their grandchild. Alex shares frustrations about their in-laws' inappropriate behavior, such as feeding John during meals and unsolicited comments on his physique.
Alex and John discuss the impact of negative comments on social media, especially those that attack personal experiences like grief or pregnancy. They emphasize the importance of ignoring trolls and focusing on positive interactions.
A listener poses a question about in-laws declining to attend her son's first birthday due to a prior commitment. John and Alex offer differing perspectives on overreacting versus understanding their in-laws' priorities.
Another listener question addresses a mother-in-law disregarding requests for privacy after a pregnancy loss. Alex and John discuss the importance of unified communication and setting firm boundaries to protect the couple’s peace.
In a lighter segment, Alex shares a dramatic secret about infidelity, which John humorously dismantles with his blunt comments. They use this segment to highlight the importance of loyalty and honesty in relationships.
Both hosts share their personal "wrecks" of the week. John discusses his less-than-ideal workout routine, while Alex highlights her enjoyment of non-alcoholic wine.
Unified Front is Crucial: When dealing with in-laws or any family-related conflicts, presenting a united stance as a couple is essential. It prevents external parties from undermining the relationship’s boundaries.
Setting Boundaries Protects Relationships: Clearly defined boundaries, especially concerning interactions with extended family, safeguard the couple's peace and the well-being of their children.
Ignore Negative Influences: Negative comments, whether online or from family, often stem from personal issues of the commenter. Focusing on positive support systems helps maintain mental well-being.
Effective Communication is Key: Addressing issues calmly and directly with those involved prevents resentment and fosters healthier relationships.
Personal Well-being Matters: Prioritizing mental and emotional health over societal or familial expectations ensures a more fulfilling and authentic life.
Episode 60 of Give It To Me Straight provides a raw and honest exploration of navigating family dynamics, setting personal boundaries, and dealing with external negativity. Through relatable stories and practical advice, Alex and John empower listeners to prioritize their relationships and well-being amidst life's challenges.
For more candid discussions and advice, subscribe to Give It To Me Straight and join Alex and John every week as they cut through the noise and deliver unfiltered insights.