Glamorous Trash: A Celebrity Memoir Podcast
Episode: Lauren Bacall’s Memoir By Myself And Then Some (with Wes Perry)
Release Date: December 6, 2024
Host: Chelsea Devantez
Guest: Wes Perry

Introduction

In this captivating episode of Glamorous Trash: A Celebrity Memoir Podcast, host Chelsea Devantez delves deep into the life and legacy of Hollywood icon Lauren Bacall through her memoir, By Myself and Then Some. Joined by returning guest Wes Perry, the discussion navigates the glamorous highs and tumultuous lows of Bacall's journey in the spotlight.

Overview of Lauren Bacall’s Memoir

Chelsea introduces By Myself and Then Some, highlighting its origin in 1978 and its 2005 reprint, which added an extra chapter covering the subsequent 25 years of Bacall's life. She emphasizes Bacall's status as a last star of Hollywood's golden age, renowned for classic films like To Have and Have Not and her legendary marriage to Humphrey Bogart.

Chelsea Devontez [00:57]: “But I just genuinely do not know why this was recommended so many times. It's like, boggling my mind because I felt like. I feel like I wilted in this book's grasp.”

Early Life and Hollywood Beginnings

Wes Perry reflects on Bacall's early years, noting her single-parent upbringing and the significant absence of her father until his brief reappearance during her Broadway career.

Wes Perry [10:10]: “I really think my main takeaway is that, you know, the first page talks about her sitting in a movie theater smoking an entire pack of cigarettes, watching a Bette Davis movie.”

Bacall's transformation from Betty Bacall to Lauren Bacall is discussed, with emphasis on her modeling career and the unique "look" she perfected, which became her signature style despite facing antisemitism.

Relationship with Humphrey Bogart

A significant portion of the conversation centers around Bacall's romance with Humphrey Bogart. Wes describes their relationship as a classic Hollywood love story, albeit with notable imbalances and red flags.

Chelsea Devontez [15:08]: “They had a bond. I mean.”

Wes questions the depth of Bacall's portrayal of Bogart, suggesting that modern perspectives might uncover complexities not fully explored in the memoir.

Wes Perry [15:21]: “I wonder if this book had come out more recently, if. And if. If she was still alive, if. If perhaps there'd be a deeper angle on the relationship.”

Despite Bacall's depiction of Bogart as a soulmate, the podcast hosts express skepticism about the idyllic nature of their union, considering Bogart's existing marriages and drinking issues.

Stand Against McCarthyism

Bacall's courage in standing up against McCarthyism is lauded as a testament to her strong character. Both Chelsea and Wes draw parallels between the historical context and present-day Hollywood challenges.

Wes Perry [21:48]: “And I think what people get out of this book, is that spirit, like of how strong willed she is.”

This act not only highlights Bacall's integrity but also resonates with contemporary listeners facing similar industry pressures.

Later Relationships and Life

Post-Bogart, Bacall's relationships, particularly with Frank Sinatra and Jason Robards, are scrutinized. Wes provides insights into Sinatra's behavior, portraying him as a challenging figure despite his iconic status.

Wes Perry [38:27]: “He's the rat king.”

Chelsea shares her frustration with Bacall's depiction of these relationships, feeling that the memoir lacks depth and emotional introspection during these periods.

Reflections and Critique

The hosts critically assess the memoir's writing style, noting its dense nature and lack of vulnerability. Wes rates the memoir's honesty at a five out of ten, while Chelsea echoes feelings of being overwhelmed by the sheer volume of details without meaningful takeaways.

Chelsea Devontez [60:07]: “I'd give it a no.”

However, the podcast acknowledges Bacall's unwavering spirit and resilience, traits that resonate deeply despite the memoir's shortcomings.

Conclusion

In wrapping up, Wes and Chelsea engage in the "Book Dill Test," evaluating the memoir's vulnerability, entertainment value, and life elevation. While opinions diverge on its emotional depth, both agree that Bacall's legacy as a figure who exudes strength and elegance remains influential.

Wes Perry [60:43]: “It made me think of the ladies who lunch as an art and that I Think the older I get, that's something that I really want to take to really appreciate friendships and to appreciate life.”

Chelsea concludes by celebrating Bacall's enduring impact, capturing her unique blend of glamour and resilience.

Notable Quotes

• Chelsea Devantez [00:57]: "If you are in my generation, perhaps your first vision of her was as Barbra Streisand's mother in The Mirror Has Two Faces."

• Wes Perry [10:10]: “I really think my main takeaway is that, you know, the first page talks about her sitting in a movie theater smoking an entire pack of cigarettes, watching a Bette Davis movie."

• Wes Perry [21:48]: “And I think what people get out of this book, is that spirit, like of how strong willed she is.”

• Chelsea Devantez [60:07]: “I'd give it a no.”

• Wes Perry [60:43]: “It made me think of the ladies who lunch as an art and that I Think the older I get, that's something that I really want to take to really appreciate friendships and to appreciate life.”

Final Thoughts

By Myself and Then Some offers a glimpse into Lauren Bacall's storied life, though not without its flaws. Glamorous Trash provides a nuanced critique, balancing admiration for Bacall's legacy with honest appraisal of her memoir's execution. For listeners intrigued by the interplay of glamour and grit in celebrity memoirs, this episode offers valuable insights and perspectives.