White Lotus Finale Hot Takes, Netflix's Adolescence, and the Katy Perry In Space

Summary

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Episode Title: White Lotus Finale Hot Takes, Netflix's Adolescence, and the Katy Perry In Space
Release Date: April 11, 2025
Host: Chelsea Devantez
Producer: Christina Lopez

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1. Introduction: Cookie Jar Episode Overview

In this special "cookie jar" episode, host Chelsea Devantez and producer Christina Lopez dive into a variety of topics that didn't make it into their regular episodes. They explore book updates, pop culture phenomena, television critiques, and more, offering listeners a comprehensive blend of discussions all in one go.

2. Anti Acknowledgments in Literature

Chelsea and Christina delve into the concept of "anti acknowledgments" in books, highlighting a poignant example from a PhD thesis student studying physics. Instead of traditional acknowledgments, the student lists those who hindered her career in a male-dominated field, concluding with heartfelt statements of shattered confidence and a sense of not belonging in science. Christina shares her admiration for this bold approach, stating, "[Christina’s quote, approx. [07:27])" and Chelsea reflects on her personal connection to the theme, emphasizing the impact of such negative experiences on one's professional and personal life.

Notable Quote:

“I wish I could tell you that this has made me stronger somehow, but in reality it has only shattered my confidence.”
— Rachel ([07:22])

3. White Lotus Finale Hot Takes

The hosts provide a thorough analysis of the latest season of White Lotus, expressing mixed feelings about its pacing and narrative choices. While appreciating the authentic portrayal of female friendships and character-driven drama, they critique certain plotlines and unresolved story arcs. Christina points out the lack of payoff in specific character developments, such as Leslie Bibbs' recognition of Parker Posey's character, and the insufficient exploration of the robbery subplot.

Notable Quotes:

“We’re not really watching a murder mystery. It’s character-based human interactions that we just don’t get to see on television.”
— Christina Lopez ([12:25])

“If you have a feud with three of our most incredible gender-bending, progressive, amazing artists, all three of them hate you. Me thinks we see a pattern.”
— Christina Lopez ([05:31])

4. Netflix's Adolescence

Chelsea introduces the Netflix series Adolescence, praising its innovative storytelling and exceptional acting. She highlights the show's single-shot format and the nuanced performance of the young protagonist, Jamie. The discussion touches on how the series addresses themes like bullying, the red pill movement, and the complex relationships between parents and children. Christina agrees, emphasizing the importance of character depth and authentic performances in driving the narrative.

Notable Quote:

“Every level. It's, it's all shot in one shot. The acting, the directing, the guy who plays the dad, Stephen Graham is a co-wrote it and created it.”
— Chelsea Devantez ([23:40])

5. Candace Owens vs. House and Habit

The hosts examine the clash between conservative commentator Candace Owens and the alt-right figure House and Habit. They discuss Owens' pivot to gaining popularity and monetary gain over maintaining a moral compass. Christina critiques Lewis' involvement with controversial topics and her deteriorating friendship with Denise, highlighting how personal vendettas can overshadow broader political agendas.

Notable Quote:

“She's a lady anyways. If you read her stuff, I'm just so surprised anyone has ever followed her.”
— Christina Lopez ([30:40])

6. Book Recommendations

Chelsea and Christina share their latest book recommendations sourced from their community:

• "Blazing Eye Sees All" by Chris: A nonfiction exploration of the Love Has Won cult, delving into New Age spiritual and political beliefs.
• "Someday This Will Only Be a Memory" by Sarah Kinsior: A memoir by a scholar of authoritarianism, described as a non-fiction horror narrative.

These selections reflect the podcast's commitment to thoughtful literary exploration and community engagement.

7. Quick News and Pop Culture

a. Zendaya as Ronnie Spector: The casting of Zendaya in the Ronnie Spector biopic is met with enthusiasm. Christina praises Zendaya's ability to bring depth to the role, especially in portraying the complexities of Ronnie's experiences with Phil Spector.

b. Madonna and Elton John's Reconciliation: Madonna and Elton John have reconciled after a series of public feuds with other artists like Cher and RuPaul. Christina speculates on Madonna's role in these recurring conflicts, suggesting a need for personal growth and reconciliation.

Notable Quote:

“Let’s do a live Lauren Sanchez episode... but only Patreon members can attend this live show.”
— Christina Lopez ([36:22])

8. Katy Perry's Space Adventure

A significant portion of the episode critiques the recent mission where celebrities, including Katy Perry and Lauren Sanchez, embarked on an 11-minute space flight. The hosts argue that the trip is more of a promotional stunt than a genuine exploration, emphasizing the performative aspects over scientific achievements. Christina expresses frustration over the co-opting of feminism for superficial publicity, particularly highlighting Amanda Wynn's involvement as a trained astronaut whose career was marred by sexual assault.

Notable Quotes:

“We're putting the ass in astronaut.”
— Christina Lopez ([35:48])

“It's slapping feminism on this mission.”
— Christina Lopez ([35:58])

9. Book Clubs and Community Engagement

Chelsea announces the formation of real-life book clubs inspired by the podcast, with groups meeting in cities like Sacramento, Seattle, Boston, and San Diego. These clubs engage in discussions about books, movies, and social interactions, fostering a sense of community among listeners.

10. Happiness Hacks

Both hosts share personal happiness hacks aimed at enhancing well-being:

• Chelsea: Advocates for cooking more at home, reconnecting with cultural culinary practices, and reassessing relationships with traditionally demonized foods like white rice.

  Notable Quote:

  “It's a staple of Puerto Rican culture, so, like, I enjoy it.”
  — Chelsea Devantez ([46:27])

• Christina: Highlights her TikTok curation as a source of joy, enabling her to support content creators without the time-consuming aspects of social media browsing.

  Notable Quote:

  “I’m de-shedding our dog. I am watching SNL. I'm microdosing, and I'm...”
  — Christina Lopez ([47:04])

11. Conclusion and Community Contributions

The episode wraps up with contributions from listeners, including a heartfelt ballad from Padgett and plans for future community-driven content like live discussions and exclusive Patreon events. Chelsea and Christina extend their gratitude to their production team and encourage listeners to engage through various platforms, including Libro FM for supporting independent bookstores.

Notable Quote:

“See you in the comments.”
— Chelsea Devantez ([49:13])

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Final Thoughts:

This episode of Glamorous Trash offers a rich tapestry of discussions, from in-depth analyses of popular TV shows to critiques of contemporary pop culture events. Chelsea and Christina's dynamic conversation, enhanced by community input and personal reflections, provides listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful commentary on the intersections of celebrity, culture, and personal growth.

Transcript

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[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[Chelsea Devante]

I love it.

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[Chelsea Devante]

It's really good.

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[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, we still get the trash in there. It's good.

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Okay, good. Okay. I'm into it. All right, Christina, on the docket today, we're going to talk about anti acknowledgments in a book. White Lotus Adolescence on Netflix. Book recommendations. Candace Owens and her pivot update with this other. Listen, I found my Kendrick vs Drake, and we're going to talk about it. Book clubs, glam and space, and my new little happiness hack.

[Chelsea Devante]

Oh, okay. I'm looking forward to that.

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Anything I missed on the agenda.

[Chelsea Devante]

I think you got it all.

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Okay. It's a lot. It's a lot. So. So we're really gonna just, like, we're gonna. Yeah, we're gonna churn and burn.

[Chelsea Devante]

Okay.

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I want to do some quick news and get your reactions, and these will just be quick hot one offs. Ready?

[Chelsea Devante]

Yes.

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John Stamos hosted and was the emcee at an event at. What, Mar a Lago.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah.

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Not.

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Not a surprise. If you listen to the men's More episode. What'd you think?

[Chelsea Devante]

I. He was in a full tuxedo, like he was recreating some sort of rat Pack that he wasn't a part of ever. And I don't know. It just made me wish all his hair fell out.

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Oh, and I can see that happening for him, especially if he goes the way of Maha rfk. I can see all that hair leaving. Okay. Zendaya has been cast to play Ronnie Spector. And the Ronnie Spector biopic, which, if you don't know who Ronnie Spector is, it is truly one of our best episodes because it is one of the best memoirs. We did it on this podcast, so listen to it. The story is insane. And monster. Phil Spector. What do you think of this?

[Chelsea Devante]

Didn't Al Pacino play him in the HBO movie about.

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That's right.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah.

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But that one was about a different woman he murdered versus the woman he tried to murder. Ronnie Spector.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yes. And also, like, abused for many years. Yes, horribly. I'm looking forward to this. I enjoy Zendaya as an actress. It makes me think of, you know, what's love got to do with it? And how we have changed our approach into portraying domestic violence and violence against women on screen. So I think one, if it introduces Ronnie's work to a younger generation, that's great. And also if we get a nuanced take, a more nuanced take of this kind of story that, like, women in the industry experience, I think that's another.

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Plus, you know, I totally agree. And I think Zendaya is an incredible actress. The closing shots of Dune 2 are just. And yes, I said Dune 2. That's right. I fucking love that movie. I mean, Zendaya is just. And she's incredible in it, you know, and she's incredible in this, like, you know, sci fi, huge blowout movie. And her and Tom Holland are my favorite celebrity couple of all time.

[Chelsea Devante]

That's so fascinating to me. Of all time.

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Of all time. Their Lip Sync Battle, where Tom Holland does Rihanna's Umbrella, is my Church. I want. I watch it once a week. It is the greatest video that exists on the Internet. And I think she is the perfect. There could not be a better casting for Ronnie Specter, especially because being light skinned plays heavily into Ronnie's story versus her sisters, versus, like, why Phil chose her. But also, you know, being black is very important to her story and, like, how Phil was exploiting black culture. And so I just think Zendaya is going to capture all those layers. Okay, final hot, quick news. Madonna and Elton John have made up. Did you even know they were feuding?

[Chelsea Devante]

I think they were both nominated for a best original song a couple of years ago at the Golden Globes. And so that's how I found out that. That they were beefing.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

I mean, here's where I'm at with it. Okay? We have a pattern. Madonna and Cher had a feud. Madonna and RuPaul had a feud. Elton John and Madonna. Elton and Ru and Cher took time in their memoirs to talk about Madonna. Me thinks we see a pattern. And the pattern is Madonna. She's at fault here, man. File the charges. She's been a bitch.

[Chelsea Devante]

Do you think she's, like, coming to terms with herself and sort of righting wrongs, or do you think it's two people of a certain age just giving up the goat ghost?

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You know, I think. I think they give. I think they're giving up the ghost. I don't. I have not seen a lot of growth in Madonna. Listen, I wish she would memoir. Only her brother has, and it's scathing. But I'm just saying, like, if you have a feud with three of our most incredible gender bending, progressive, amazing artists, all three of them hate you.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah.

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What's going on?

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, I'm not really sure.

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I know.

[Chelsea Devante]

And as someone who holds grudges, how do you feel seeing these grudges sort of resolve themselves?

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I like it. I mean, I think I'm a fraud in that, like, I have resolved some grudges in my life. But I listen, if they didn't forgive Madonna, I'd be like, I know Ru hasn't that memoir was published, you know, recently. And he was like, madonna is the worst. Okay, let's talk about these anti acknowledgments that went viral. Chris posted these in the Patreon, and I love it. It is a PhD thesis student who at the end of her thesis, where you would typically write the acknowledgments, they're titled anti acknowledgments. And it's all the people who Tried to get in her way and fuck up her career because she's studying physics, a very male dominated field. All these like slights from micro to macro. And it ends with these two sentences. I wish I could tell you that this has made me stronger somehow, but in reality it has only shattered my confidence. You've made me feel like I do not belong in science and I cannot forgive you for that. Rachel.

[Chelsea Devante]

Amazing.

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I mean, as a grudge holder, I love it. It's my religion.

[Chelsea Devante]

It's on par with Earth. The kits like acknowledgement section.

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Yeah. And I like very much, if I ever publish another book, I want to do acknowledgments and then I want to do anti acknowledgements and I'll categorize them. Okay. Christina, Anyone you want to anti acknowledge this week in your life?

[Chelsea Devante]

I really. It's not someone in my life, but it is someone who has loomed long over my entire life despite only being president for one year of it. No. Thank you to Ronald Reagan, who I think is like really responsible for everything that we're going through right now.

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That's right. I love that Ronald Reagan is your anti acknowledgement.

[Chelsea Devante]

I have beef with him forever. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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And you know what? I. Who do I want to answer? I want to do a big one too then. A real big juicy anti acknowledgment. I want to anti acknowledge Dr. Atkins.

[Chelsea Devante]

He just really.

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I mean, there's one birthday where I ate watermelon as my cake and he should just fuck off and die forever. Okay, let's talk White Lotus. So we had. We. You were hosting weekly. Like, here's the chat in Patreon. Like everyone would talk about each episode and then we had this like big ending chat and I. The, the takes were really good. People pointed out stuff that I hadn't even caught. What overall are your takeaways from this season?

[Chelsea Devante]

I think I was mixed on it, honestly. This show has always been a slow burn. And so the it's boring or it's moving slowly, like, didn't resonate for me because I've always watched it live week over week, which I think maybe a lot of people came into this season having binged season two or something. And so they weren't used to the pace of the show being like this. Because it feels different when you're watching it back to back.

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Yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

But I did enjoy the way the female friendship storyline kind of came together. It did feel authentic to me. Like you do fight on the trip and then you go through something traumatic and you're like, actually, I love you guys.

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Yeah. That's so interesting. I. I know, but I found the.

[Chelsea Devante]

Ratliff stuff really unsatisfying. Wait, Ratliff was the Southern family with Parker Posey the rat, right?

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Yes.

[Chelsea Devante]

Like, we watched Jason Isaacs have a. An anxiety attack for eight episodes.

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Yeah, I really. I want to. Yeah, great point. Okay. I want to call out some things I loved, which is seen his dick.

[Chelsea Devante]

My mom called me immediately after that scene aired, while it aired live. I was like, mom, oh, dlo.

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I. We got a lot of dick this season and, like, love it. Yes. Love seeing it. But mostly I just love that, like, we've just seen so many boobs. Just boobs and boobs and boobs and boobs. So anytime someone balances it out, because we saw a lot of boobs this season, I'm like, yes, equality is here.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yes.

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If you're showing women naked, show men naked, man. I mean, it's probably. It's. It's prosthetics anyway. For what? For the Ding Dongs. But yeah, I just. I just loved the. I loved that the. The actual shot of both times that happened was, like, jarring.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah.

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Which was, like, intended for the story. I know the friendship wrap up worked for a lot of people. It really did not work for me because I thought, like, I thought the idea of time gives it meaning was that was really beautiful. And the idea that you do forgive these friends who are really shitty sometimes, but being like, you're really happy in life and you have a beautiful face, and I'm just happy to have a seat at the table. I was like, no, no. And then, you know, they all intimately witness a shooting. They're standing right there, and then the last shot of the is them talking and laughing, and you're like, I just feel like they're pretty. I just. Those characters were set up to, I think, react a bit differently. Like, they would more sort of be like, shaking of like, can you believe we just went through that? And then I think finally, I really didn't like how Leslie Bibbs character recognized Parker Posey's character. And that storyline never paid off. I felt like something was distinctly cut out of that storyline that was supposed to be there.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah. There was also that moment where Carrie Coon is leaving the hookup situation because the woman is chasing her and she sees the jewelry that was robbed from the hotel store. And, like, nothing really ever comes of that besides, like, she, like, she doesn't go to the guard or maybe she wouldn't recognize that it was from the hotel store. But he had stolen jewelry. But it felt like it was put there on purpose to come back to the bigger robbery storyline with Gaitak and the Russians.

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Yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

And it just didn't go anywhere. And there were a lot of little things like that. And it's interesting, Mike White gave an interview on the official podcast for the show and he said something like, I'm edging you. You don't want to be edged. Get the F out of my bed. Basically, like, the series edges you and that's the point. But the point of edging is that you do and eventually come to a climax. You know, it's like to enhance that. Right?

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Yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

And not just leave the bed without the climax. Otherwise, what was the edging for Mike? That is.

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Listen, Christina. Absolutely correct. I thought. I thought the best. And yes, I like. I. I want to state I love this series so much because it is character based drama. You're not really watching a murder mystery. We know there's a death each time and you get there. But we're not. It's not twists and turns. It's character based human interactions that we just don't get to see on television. That. It's a slow burn. Totally fine. The parts that where I'm like, okay, when Natasha Rothwell's character is like, there's a lizard in my room. There's a lizard in my room. And that's like four episodes. I'm like, I wish that would have been spent building her intimacy with the other spa coordinator who works there so that when she makes the decision to choose money over him, the same thing that happened to her in season two. We would feel it more. Because right now it's like, yes, you guys slept together once.

[Chelsea Devante]

She.

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She didn't make no promises.

[Chelsea Devante]

Like, that was actually my biggest problem was that they were trying to frame it as equitable as what Tanya did to her. Is the same thing as she was doing to Porch. I. I think is.

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Yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

And it's not because one like Tanya was leaving because she met a rando. Right. And we learned eventually in this season that she was a billionaire or came from like billions of dollars of money.

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Yeah. Tanya also made promises, but Tanya was like, make your business plan. This is happening. I'm about to change your life. And then bailed.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yes.

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Versus Natasha's character. I'm so bad with character names. Who was just sort of like, Belinda, Belinda. Belinda was just the whole time. So, like, no, we'll think about it.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah.

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You know?

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah. And also, like, she just got $5 million. Like, it's not equitable to someone who grew up in billions of dollars of wealth. She just got $5 million from this person that she is high key blackmailing after staying at a hotel where there was a mass shooting. Like, yes, she's going to leave. She's going to get out of there.

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No, that's a really good point. One of the edgings that really paid off, I thought, was with Sam Rockwell's char. The last shot of him is him at the ashram. He was the only one who ended up joining that place. That to me was like perfect storytelling finality. Whereas in the family, the. The Southern family shout out to my hairstylist, Olivia Scotland. She's coming on the podcast. She's so genius. But I did not see this. But she was like, the kids on the boat on the way there are hear no see no speak no evil.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yes.

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One has headphones, one has sunglasses. Okay, so you know this. I didn't pick up on this. And then when they're on the boat back, it has switched where the oldest son is reading the book. You know, the youngest son has his sunglasses and the daughter with the headphones. And so there was storytelling in there as to, like, what happened to these kids on this trip. But it. It was not enough for. For me. I needed. I wanted to see Parker Posey leave him, as we know she's gonna do.

[Chelsea Devante]

I at least wanted her to have a breakdown about being poor. At least like a poor monologue, like.

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Or something like a Parker Posey porn.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, yeah. To rival Laura Dern's I will not not be rich scene from Big Little Eyes.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. I. And I think. Okay, just last thing. And then we have to talk about another piece of the. A little meta piece of this, which is how did you feel about Rick and Chelsea's final storyline and their death? That they were the ones who died.

[Chelsea Devante]

I mean, it was like pretty well laid out through the story. Her being in the store while I was being robbed and saying I almost died. And then her getting. Getting bit by the snake and her saying bad things come in threes. And I think there was a line in the episode before the penultimate one where she said something about like, you're pain and I'm love or something like that. We're gonna figure out which one will win and how they were each other's yin and yang.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah. And he's face up and she's face down in the water. And the whole series comes back to water, which is like a Buddhist concept of like, of energy and time and humanity. Yeah, yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

And the lesson is, when you try to heal an unhealed man who's not doing his own work, you get hurt too.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

You go die.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

I. My favorite storyline by far, one that had a great payoff. And yeah, she was saying it the whole time. Bad things happen in three spat. And we would still be like, who's going to die? And it's like Chelsea's saying it. Her name is Chelsea.

[Chelsea Devante]

I think people get caught up on the who done it of it all. And that's not really the point of the show.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah, no, absolutely not. But, you know, shout out to Amy Lee woods because we love uniqueness. We love human faces, we love distinction. We and her. And like, her natural teeth and I. It just sounds so crazy to even talk about, but it was just such a gift to get to have a really cool, unique actress. Carrie Coon, you know, Leslie Michelle Monahan, like, all of them really brought this, like, I don't know, this beauty that. It's like, I just feel like we're so used to seeing the same surgeries over and over again. I hope it will encourage the industry and so many more actresses to be able to be like Barbra Streisand. No, I am not changing my nose. Like, go fuck yourself. It's what makes me special.

[Chelsea Devante]

I was going to say, if not, this economy might have people cutting back on some of those things.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Well, you know what? At least there's one tiny little silver lining. Okay. And then the other thing, we'll just take a tiny, little, tiny little moment to talk about it is that I guess Mike White went on some podcasts that is. Was it Andrew Sullivan who's like, yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

So Andrew Sullivan's a conservative columnist, blogger. He at one point did have a column with New York magazine, and he is very much like conservative speaker who talks about woke culture and trans women in sports and gender identity and identity politics being awful. Those kind of like greatest hits of the Right.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah. And I listen, Andrew Sullivan was a guest on a show that I was head writing for, so I closely encountered him Looney, looney, looney out of Key Tunes. That is a really volatile, dangerous person. More so off camera than on camera. I'm just more so surprised Mike took the. Like, you don't have to do that. Why did you do that podcast?

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah. Cookie posted what ultimately is like a Reddit recap of what the conversation was sort of about, but it's behind a paywall and somebody posted a very small clip in that Reddit post and both Andrew and Mike are talking about an anti trans pseudoscience fringe theory from what this Reddit post is saying and I haven't really seen anyone report on it at all.

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Okay, let's dive back into the episode. So adolescence is a show that is on Netflix I put this. I recommended the show on my newsletter. If you want to sign up for the newsletter, I'll link it in the show notes. Every month I send 10 things I love. This was one of them. Just unbelievable to me. Every level. It's, it's all shot in one shot. The acting, the directing, the guy who plays the dad, Stephen Graham is a co. Wrote it and created it. I think even if you watch it and you're like, what am I watching? Which is, which is how my husband reacted to it. Then the next day he's like, but what about this? But what about this? Like, you just keep thinking about it in waves and waves and waves. And I think especially the storytelling was really mind blowing to me of how they even just got it on screen because they evaded a really mind numbing notes process and showed how we don't need formulaic story structures because it really, you know, we're so used to watching things like, well, who done it right? So Jamie, the young boy at the center of it all is like, it wasn't me, dad. And so then immediately I'm thinking, okay, who altered the footage of Jamie? Is it Jamie's friends? Like, what's going to be the twist and turn, the plot arcs are playing against your perception of like, no, it really is this young child who did this. And here's how it got this way. Here's why it's him, here's how he's processing it. And then the arcs to me were just incredible because, you know, someone was talking about, like, what was the second episode about? Where the detective goes to the school. But for me, the second episode is about the detective's son and how he's being made fun of and bullied. And by the end of the episode, the detective decides to try and take a moment to connect with his son because he hasn't been able to. And that is the action that, that is the lesson of what should have happened with Jamie and his dad. Because his dad, they also had the same issue and he went and found, you know, like Andrew Tate and incel bloggers because he need space to feel seen and heard and couldn't find it like within his family and friends. So I just, I thought the layers were incredible. I thought the, it was, it was such a reminder of like, good acting really matters and we don't see it a lot.

[Chelsea Devante]

And that main child who's playing the boy in the series has never acted before. This was his first role.

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Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. And someone brought up in the Patreon they brought up that there's like a missing victim in the show, which is they don't build out the storyline of Katie, who is the girl who was murdered, and that basically it's focusing on male violence. That's why the show is popular, because the men are centered and that like, you know, that this victim was made into a mean girl. I know, I know. My opinions and takeaways on that. What do you think?

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, I think it was that the inciting incident was her calling him an incel on Instagram and that's why he was upset rather than he had been much more influenced by the social, cultural aspects of the manosphere, quote unquote, red pill, all that stuff. And that was shaping his relationship to women and his reaction to women, however violent. And so it would put the motive on her bullying him or making fun of him, rather than his reaction to her rejection, which is shaped by the larger cultural things that. That led to him doing what he did, murdering her. Because he did say in the episodes, he was like, I did nothing wrong. He kept saying, I did nothing wrong, not I didn't kill her.

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Yeah. Yes. I mean, listen, I understand this point, but I wholeheartedly disagree with it because we, I mean, murder podcast be number one murder culture, murder documentaries, things like that. And there's so many documentaries focusing on like this woman, usually blonde, beautiful, you know, this thing happened to her. And it does not change culture's mind on male violence. Right. If there's no time, I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm gonna say there's no time where anyone has been shown like, hey, she had a family and good grades and whatever. And it's changed. People's been like, oh, we shouldn't have male violence. Like, basically the. The character of a victim isn't the problem here. Whether she's a mean girl or a nice girl, like, it doesn't matter because the problem is male violence. And I love that it focused male violence. I love that that was the subject, that was the topic, that was the unraveling. Because it doesn't matter who she is, because this is systemic and everywhere and happening to all kinds of women, like, quote good, quote bad, you know, any age. And so the fact that she was decentered and we didn't see lots of images of her, I just thought was really refreshing in this space where usually so much is put on the girl. And I will share this might. My opinion is, I'm sure, coming from my own vice experience, I'm going to share a tiny little personal story. But as everyone on this podcast probably knows, I went through domestic violence at a very young age, and it was very, very violent. And one of the things I'm so sad that I didn't get to talk about in the book is that I was running my school newspaper and when I was getting pretty intensely messed with and manipulated, I'm over here. I'm a strong woman. I'm in control of my life. I'm gonna take a stand and my best friends. And an advice column. It was her advice column, but it was my. It was. But it was my. I was editor in chief, right? So. And we wrote in some fake questions from the person who was really mistreating me. But we're teenagers, right? So the questions are like, I think I should control all women just because, like, I, you know, play a sport. Like, what do you think it was? Something like that. And we would write back, like, get a life, you're a loser. And we published it in the paper. And I was like, like, I have done it. I have stood up for myself. Like, everything will stop now because I have called out what is wrong and I have fought back. And I did it through words. And after that was the first shooting. And so for me, this story is really resonant of, like, she had a nude passed around. Then he thought he could get with her because everyone was making fun of her. And then she fought back and was, you know, a bitchy about it. And. And then. And now she's dead. And to meet the story playing authentically to culture and. And people, and what's happening is way more important to deconstructing violence than like, anything else they could have done with the story.

[Chelsea Devante]

That.

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That's my take.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, I do. I will say, like, the other framing of the show is also parents or adults and their relationship to kids and how kids are processing or not processing the world around them. In particular, I was thinking about that scene with Katie's best friend, the victim's best friend, where none of the teachers and the detectives, like, they fail to connect with her, to yield anything that could really help Katie's case, because they're not coming at her empathetically. They're coming at her with accusatory questions about her friend. And nobody takes the time to, like, have a moment of empathy, much. Like a couple scenes later, the cop has with his own son as a form of understanding. And I will say the show does construct it in a binary way where it's like boys and girls. And we know that people who are non binary and people who are trans. I have someone who's trans in my life, who is in high school and who's been bullied because they're trans. And kids across the gender spectrum are dealing with violence at school as well. And I think the larger question and something that I'm asking myself because I know what it's like to be a child who needs an adult that's not your parent to kind of just like vibe with or bounce off of or like, you know, just get a different picture of your life. And it's very clear to me how I can be that for my nieces. Right. By just like being a living example. And I wonder a lot about how I can support my friend's sons and other friends, children across the gender spectrum in that way and be a part of their life so that we can steer them away from these kinds of bubbles and spheres. And like, you know, I don't know, how does a, you know, middle aged woman relate to a teen boy? That's gonna be something I'm gonna have to figure out.

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Yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

And I think that's what's the core piece here is how much the adults are so detached from what their kids are looking into. Cause there is that one point where the son of the police officer, the detective, the lead detective on the case, is basically doing exposition and explaining the red pill movement.

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80 hemisphere.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, 80. 20. And it's like, yes. I don't know if a teen boy would like deconstruct it like that. But it's meant to reach a certain audience of parents that don't have any clue about any of that.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

I think, I think that was so well said. Definitely something I hope we get Patreon comments about. Okay, let's talk about just real quick. So Candace Owens, who we spoke about versus House in habit, did you know who house inhabit was?

[Chelsea Devante]

I recently found out about them. I've seen tiktoks of people talking about them, but I'm kind of unfamiliar.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

She's pretty wild because she really got in with like questioning vaccines. But it's like, it's just like a very kooky, unhinged lady who has rebranded as like an independent journalist. And she would just travel herself to towns where crimes were and go to the trials. And then she would be like, no one wants Nancy Grace here. And then people would be like, we don't want you here. Like you're building a substack off of. And then also every man is right, every woman is wrong. Like that. That's her take on Everything. And then it's like a revelation because she's a lady anyways. If you read her stuff, I'm just, I'm so surprised anyone has ever followed her. And she's very alt right and Candace Owens is alt right and Candace is pivoting. And I called this out and I was like, I think she has a deeper conservative agenda, obviously. But I'm still kind of hanging on my theory that I think she wants popularity and money more than she has a moral compass. Because I have seen some videos recently that are fully anti what you would consider conservative. And if they just came up on your feed and you didn't know her word for word, I'd be like, this woman is incredible. And I can't believe I've seen a video that I would say that about her. Like, wow, she's really pivoting. And House and Habit got mad at her because Candace Owens just probably doubled her following by talking about the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni case non stop. And people have found her from it because they're looking for people covering it. And how's it happened was like, that's my thing. My thing is taking like hot culture and then making alt right takes. And then they like went back and forth. And they both love it. They're both professional trolls. It gets them both attention. But I was like, oh my God, it's my Kendrick versus Drake. Watching these two like fringe women melt down over each other. And then at the same time, House Inhabit was having a public best friend breakup and was just, just rancid about it, like was trying to ruin her friend. And I think someone who ran her platform with her, Denise, she was trying to just like destroy Denise's life in this best friend breakup that was very public. And so then she's talking about her and posting like really terrible receipts about her life and lost a lot of following because people, they weren't able to realize that House Inhabit was a liar in other ways. But they were able to realize that she was being a really bad friend to Denise because they're like, why are you doing this to Denise, House Inhabit? And she's like, you must fight vaccines. And they're like, you were so rude to Denise. And I just love that, like an empire is falling based off like, they can't really see how politically she's wrong, but they do know someone who is misbehaving in a best friendship. Like, it's like, you're the fault of this friendship breakup. We can no longer trust you.

[Chelsea Devante]

That's crazy.

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I know, it's very. Listen, I was. I was very into it. Okay, let's talk about a couple other fun things. I made a video this week about the lady bosses going to space. Mission thoughts on this space adventure. It is Gayle King. It is Katy Perry. It is Lauren Sanchez, who is Jeff Bezos fiance. It's a handful of other people. It is Amanda Wynn. Let me just. You know, I'm just going to monologue at you what went into my hot video. Are you ready? Okay. These women going to space. Did you know that the mission is only 11 minutes long? It's 11 minutes long. So they're not going to space. They're going on billionaire splash mountain. It is 11 minute ride. They're exploring nothing. They are learning nothing. It is for nothing. And then one of the articles is like, we've taken a lot of time to prepare the women and let them know where the cameras are. So it's. It's for selfies, it's for promo. Also, they're technically not going to space. When they get there's like an atmospheric level and they're like 100 yards below that. They're not going into orbit. So it's actually not space. They're just going into the tippy top of the sky, spinning around for a few seconds, slapping feminism on this mission. And Amanda Wynn is like, it makes me so sad because she's a trained astronaut who was sexually assaulted at Harvard who truly fought and got justice. Like, she passed. Got laws passed, right, for sexual assault victims. And her career was derailed. And now she is going to space as Katy Perry's Uber driver. And she deserves so much more. She deserves so much better. And I was like, this is summing up feminism. The fact that Katy Per and Lauren Sanchez are like, getting L covers with, like Amanda standing in the back, the only real fudgeing astronaut. And then Katy Perry and Lauren Sanchez are like, we are going to put the ass in astronaut. I'm like, how long did it take you to think of that, Katie? Like, thinking about your song lyrics. Like, how long did that one take? And then they also say, we're bringing glam to space. It's like, oh, finally, finally there will be an astronaut wearing glam 100 yards below space. And that to me is just like, like, everything that's wrong with feminism. Like, you are taking our arguments about nuance of, like, women can be engineers and astronauts and, like, wear a bold lip, you psychopaths. And then Katy Perry's like, yeah, me wearing glam in space, Me getting Hair and makeup for my 11 minute trip is like somehow extraordinary for women as opposed to like a waste of our resources, money, time, our movement. It infuriates me.

[Chelsea Devante]

I can already picture them crossing the ramp onto the spaceship and they're playing It's a woman's World and we're looking to be living.

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I'm like, is she gonna shoot a music video? Is this like, what? You're so right.

[Chelsea Devante]

This is a storyline on the morning show because Jon Hand's character is a proxy for Elon Musk. But they went to space and Jennifer Aniston went to space. I just love that the morning show kind of like predicted some of this shenanigans. I don't know, but it might have been based off of Bezos is also spaceship run, so.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Right.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah. I don't know. It's just, it's so silly to me. I don't know what it ultimately proves. I don't know why they're doing.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

They're doing it for promo for oligarchy. I'm sure billionaires will be able to buy 11 minute rides. Like they chose these women so they could go back and tell the stories of what it was like for what? Oh, because you're gonna start selling it like it is just. And I convinced Christina. We're gonna do a live Lauren Sanchez episode where on the Patreon. I'm gonna do a. A slideshow because there's just so much we need to know about her. Her wedding is about to take over pop culture stands. And then we will publish it to the feed as an episode. But only Patreon members can attend this live show. But excited about it. Okay, let's talk about a couple other things, Christina. There are real live book clubs started from this podcast. Sacramento, Arizona meets every month. Seattle, Boston, San Diego, they all have live book clubs and cookies meeting up in person. And like, they're doing books, they're doing movies, they're hanging out. I'm getting pictures of like martinis and flaming hot Cheetos. This is, this is my space. Like, this is me being like, I'm going to space. Like whatever feeling Katy Perry is getting from, like going on the rocket, I am getting from seeing your book club photos. There are shout outs in the Patreon chat looking for cookies in Philadelphia, in Utah and Ireland. So if that's you, get on the chat. And then there were some book recommendations that came up in our book recommendation thread and I want to highlight two of them. Chris recommended the Blazing Eye Sees all, which uses the love has won cult as a narrative structure, but is a broader exploration of New Age spiritual and political belief. Sounds like a really great nonfiction read. And then also another cookie. Laura recommended a memoir titled Someday this Will Only Be a Memory by Sarah Kinsior. And Laura wrote about this author that the author is a scholar of authoritarianism and uniquely gifted. An empathetic person who calls herself a non fiction horror writer. Which, you know, I love that. And one of this author's trademark phrases is that there are no blue states or red states. America's purple like a bruise. So those are two books that I really want to check out. And then another cookie recommended in the chats. Maybe Ingrid, I think, had just seen the movie Triangle of Sadness. Have you ever seen it?

[Chelsea Devante]

I've heard about it. And that one scene I have, emitter phobia, which is the fear of vomiting. So it's like I would. I would never watch it because of that.

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Yeah, you can't.

[Chelsea Devante]

There's like a 15 minute long, like vomiting scene or something like that.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, you can't watch it. It came out a few years ago.

[Chelsea Devante]

But I mean, I could fast forward through it.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah, this movie, it is fantastic. It's fantastic. It's very like European high art meets very good movie. Like, I feel like sometimes when people are like, this is a really great altruistic movie, but you're like, but I don't enjoy watching it. So I get that it's like good art, but it's not, like, enjoyable. Triangle of Sadness is both things put together. I could not recommend it more.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah, well, there isn't really a consensus. Right. When it comes to art. Like, just because, like, something might be held up by like a certain group of film people doesn't necessarily mean that it's intrinsically just a good film. Because this one tiny group of people decide on the Internet or like, through critiques, decided it was, you know, and that's the purpose of art, is that you are supposed to come at it with your own experiences and thoughts and takeaways and critiques and appreciations for it.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Totally, totally. And I mean, there's. I love rom coms. There are people who love certain rom coms where I'm like, that sucks ass. Actually, it doesn't matter because they like it and I don't. It doesn't matter.

[Chelsea Devante]

Wait, what's one of them?

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

It's the one I hate the most. It was based off of a book and it's John Krasinski. It's called Something Borrowed. Yes, it is. So hateful and awful and makes no sense and also isn't funny, but also has, like, a horrible message. And then a bunch of scenes happening in the rain with a green screen that is not fully green screened out. It made me. I was just like, I. I can't. This is horrible. These are women being horrible to each other as, like, a rom com. And then the funniest part is at the end of the movie is, like, fully set up for a sequel starring John Krasinski. Like, it's a whole scene that is basically the. The start of the sequel. And he's like. I think he's, like, in London and, like, running away from a woman. Can't really remember. No sequel ever happened. So this is just like, they were like, this is a slam dunk. And then we never heard from Something Borrowed again.

[Chelsea Devante]

He did marry someone who is British. So maybe the real sequel is his relationship with Emily Blunt.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Oh, my God, you're so right. Okay, and then a couple other things is we mentioned the podcast who Trolled Amber Heard. And a cookie named Laura is gonna organize, like, a listening book club where you listen to an episode each week of who Trolled Amber and then chat about it in the Patreon. I'm really excited for this. This is how I'm gonna listen to the podcast. I watched the documentary, which blew my mind, and I think slow rolling this and having a space to talk about it is kind of the only way I'm gonna ingest this very difficult material that is also important. So I'm really excited. And that's gonna. That's gonna happen in the Patreon. Chat that. Okay, Christina. I was gonna talk about everything bagel liberalism meets this article that was dropped in the chat about. About the discourse about abundance liberals. But, you know, it just feels. We're almost to an hour, so instead I'm gonna say I'm gonna anti acknowledge Cory Booker. Oh, can you believe? I know.

[Chelsea Devante]

Okay.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

You know, I spent a lot of time in comedy politics in my career and emphasis on comedy, you guys. I was always a comedian, like, but spent a lot of time, and he is really distinctly an opportunist, which I'm thrilled about, because that is, like, personal power. Like, we tell you what we like, and then you do it for clout because we. You like clout. Into it. Into it. You want to finally, finally stand up and do something newsworthy for the Democrats and filibuster and talk about what this party needs. I love it. Give you a million bajillion likes mikes the next day, he voted to send millions of dollars to continue the war in Gaza. Not anything he said in his speech, not helping our economy, the housing crisis, the food crisis, health care, anything that people actually wanted. He voted against what would help the American people. So his speech, I mean, and what he did really just is the definition of all talk and like an actual stunt. And you're still not actually doing anything. And having witnessed him for. For so long kind of doing stunts like this, I'm just like, finish the stunt, my dog. Be. Be the Democrat who makes the party about the working class and actually votes the way the people want. And let us make you a little a king that we stand forever. You'll love it. We'll love it. Don't fake it. And I'll never get over when he dated an Instagram poet. And I'm not making that up, because on the red carpet, they said, hello, Cory Booker, who's this with you? And then they said, what do you do? And she said, I am an Instagram poet. It no shade to her in her work. But like, this is. This is Cory Booker.

[Chelsea Devante]

Okay? He also dated Rosario Dawson.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

I know that he's just pulling hotties.

[Chelsea Devante]

I mean, I think there is something to doing something once and having a lot of attention over putting in the work to do it consistently. Like putting in the shoe leather, like Bernie Sanders and AOC continue to do, touring the country, talking to crowds, crowds supporting their constituents, publicly speaking out against the administration to the point where I think like, AOC is kind of being investigated or looked, oh yeah, under for her support of immigrants and migrants to this country.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Chris Murphy, a really great senator in Connecticut, like, he's just through and through, been like one of my favorites, went on the Daily show with John Stewart and is like, the Democratic Party sees Bernie Sanders as a threat. Aoc, by extension, by these values is also. So our own party is actively against the two people connecting with the American people the most because they are bucking some Democratic establishment. And Chris's message was that the Democrats have to stop seeing Bernie as a threat. And I will also add AOC and Jasmine Crockett. Like, we have to embrace what they're speaking about and what the people want. And so Chris saying that, you know, it makes sense that this would be happening to AOC because they see her as a threat. And listen, again, if you just want to be a famous politician, do it for the clout. I don't care. Do it for the clout. But, like, actually get our clout. Like, don't vote the next day against everything you just spoke about for 24 hours. You didn't go pee pee. You didn't eat a sandwich. You couldn't eat for, like, days before the this started. Like, you did a whole regimen, and you voted against everything you spoke about the next day. I just can't. Okay, Christina, let's see. Christina, do you have any new happiness hacks that we can distribute to the people?

[Chelsea Devante]

I think I'm just getting into the mood of, like, cooking for myself more and, like, you know, taking that time out of my day to be really intentional about it. And, like, that's forcing you to take a break and forcing you to be really present. Right. Something might burn if you're not. Yeah. So I think that's, like, you know, also, like, just getting back into cooking more of some of the foods that I ate growing up, which I like. You know, I. I reassess my relationship with white rice, you know, because it's been demonized for so long when the differences are really not that major when it comes to white versus brown rice. And I know that's, like, such a little thing, but it brings me back so much joy to just, like, like, let myself have white rice again. And, like, you know, it's a staple of Puerto Rican culture, so, like, I. I, you know, I enjoy it.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

So I love that. That is a needed message as someone who gets white rice at Chipotle and is always like, I should be getting brown, but, you know, that just brought me a lot of happiness.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah. I mean, as long as you have it with something like beans, it's a complete protein, and it. The carbs are needed to, like, keep you satiated throughout the whole day. So it's great. I don't know. Pantry, stable. Like, it's great.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

I love that. Also, Christina's tik Tok curations also bring me a lot of joy, and it also means I'm not on tik tok, but I am supporting Christina, so I'm getting all the good stuff. I don't have to waste time because you. You just curate them all in a small bunch. So those are also my happiness hack from you.

[Chelsea Devante]

Great. I'll post one on Saturday so that everybody can, like, flock to my Instagram.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Okay, Saturday, give your handle.

[Chelsea Devante]

Oh, yeah, my handle is at Christina Lopez. K, R, I, S, T, I, n, a, L, O, P, E, Z. My name. Just one word and. Yeah, we'll link to it in the show notes, too.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah. Okay. I love that. Okay, here's my happiness hack guest of the podcast Sierra let me know that there is a shop in Los Angeles that just sells shroom chocolates over the counter and shroom gummies, which kind of blew. I don't know. Yeah. Blew my mind. It is microdosing, but, like, if you get enough of them that it's a full shroom dose. And so walked my ass over there, got some shroom gummies, ate two last night. And we watched snl and I got this new shedding tool that like. Like, helps deshed our new dog, who is, we found out, is a husky German shepherd among, like, a million other things. And I was. And the tool puts him to sleep because it's so comfy.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

So I'm de shedding our dog. I am watching snl. I'm microdosing, and I'm. It was amazing. I was crying. I was like, this is the funniest thing I've ever seen. My dog is so happy. I had something to do with my hands. Like, it was some real. I think. I think shroom gummies are my new nightly happiness, which. And it used to be bottles and bottles of wine. Yeah.

[Chelsea Devante]

The way that you tolerate the wine as you get older, at least for me, has been a struggle. So, yeah, the microdose seems like a gentler form of, like, you know, getting a nice little body high or whatever.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, to be clear, I'm still doing great on wine, but it's an. It's nice to have something new.

[Chelsea Devante]

Yeah. Give your kidney a break.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Exactly. Christina. To end this episode, I made a call in the last cookie jar. I said, I need a new ballad for our times and a cookie wrote in named Padgett. She wrote this email. She said, random reach out. But in your last episode, you said you missed powerful ballads. And so I wanted to share a song I wrote a few years ago after leaving LA and a crappy trash bag type of guy. All is wonderful. Now happily married to a very good guy. I hope you like it. Thank you for your amazing podcast. Oh, and the rest is so nice. So we're just gonna play this episode out with her really stunning song and we will see you in the Patreon comic comments.

[Chelsea Devante]

See you in the comments.

[Marvel Studios Advertiser]

Bye. But I've let go. I've let go Freedom, Freedom Freedom, Freedom. Freedom. Freedom. Freedom, Freedom, Freedom, Freedom. A huge thank you to our podcast producer, Christina Lopez, our executive producer, Jordan Moncada, our sound engineer, Marcus Hamm, and our amazing associate producer, Jaron Padre. I also want to let you know that if you love audiobooks, but you want to support independent bookstores, go to Libro fm, where it is easy to download audiobooks and support local bookshops. And right now you get two Libro FM audiobooks for the price of one with your first month of membership using code TRASH. That's right, trash T R A S H2 audiobooks for the price of 1 at Libro FM. And if you have questions, go to the Patreon Chat Lounge and I will see you there.