EmRata's Venus Retrograde Haircut, Plus Topicals Makes a Huge Move

Summary

Gloss Angeles Episode Summary: "EmRata's Venus Retrograde Haircut, Plus Topicals Makes a Huge Move"

Release Date: April 8, 2025
Hosts: Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan

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1. Haunted Sleepover in Savannah

Kirbie and Sarah kicked off the episode with a thrilling recount of their recent trip to Savannah, where they stayed at the historic Smithfield Cottage owned by SCAD (Savannah College of Art and Design).

Kirbie shares her experience of being the first to arrive and being placed in the carriage house alone:

“I had the whole carriage house to myself, which I understood because obviously they wanted me to live the life of luxury.” ([01:26])

Sara adds her apprehensions about the supernatural elements of the cottage:

“We had a sleepover. It was Kirby, me, and some ghosts.” ([01:07])

The duo delves into the eerie decorations within the cottage, including unsettling paintings and mannequins with exposed anatomy, which heightened their sense of unease:

“There's a painting that says repent on it. And immediately I'm like, no, this is not good. This is not good.” ([02:36])

During their stay, Kirbie experiences a disturbing encounter where she feels a physical jolt on her bed:

“I was trying to turn over and sit up to say, did you feel that? I swear to God, my body entirely was vibrating from head to toe.” ([05:45])

Despite their initial fears, Sara remains skeptical, attributing the experience to mundane causes:

“She was like, oh, I just thought it was the cleaning lady, like, entering the downstairs.” ([06:46])

2. EmRata's Venus Retrograde Haircut

The conversation shifts to a major cultural moment involving Emily Ratajkowski (EmRata) and her recent controversial haircut during Venus retrograde—a period often associated with challenging changes in beauty and aesthetics.

Kirbie expresses her dismay over EmRata’s new hairstyle:

“I have to attribute it to that. It's not my hormones, it's not anything else. It's just Mercury or Venus.” ([20:26])

Sara humorously critiques the haircut, describing it as a botched attempt that doesn't flatter EmRata:

“It's like a Beatles haircut, but with long ends. It's like a Florence Henderson haircut.” ([21:47])

Kirbie empathizes with EmRata, fearing the negative backlash she might face:

“She is a stunning woman. The fact that they did her so dirty on this. I mean, and this is a stunning woman.” ([23:03])

Despite the initial negative reception, Sara highlights the supportive community response, noting that EmRata managed to secure a paid partnership to mitigate the fallout:

“The update is that Caristas helped her keep her job. And she's like, and yeah, this is an ad, because it fucking should be.” ([22:46])

The hosts humorously advise their listeners on astrologically-timed beauty decisions:

“Obey Venus retrograde. Don't do it. Don’t do major hair transformations.” ([23:39])

3. Topicals Acquires Bread Beauty Supply

Transitioning to industry news, Kirbie and Sara discuss the significant acquisition of Bread Beauty Supply by Topicals, signaling a strategic expansion within the beauty sector.

Kirbie praises Topicals' founder, Alamode Olaway, and her strategic vision:

“Topicals now has a holding company, so they were able to acquire Bread, which I think this just makes so much sense.” ([12:00])

Sara underscores the importance of maintaining brand integrity during acquisitions, especially for black-owned businesses:

“Typically when a black-owned business gets acquired, so many things are changed and altered in a way that isn't serving our community.” ([12:42])

They highlight the mutual respect and understanding between the founders of Topicals and Bread, ensuring that Bread will continue to operate independently while benefiting from Topicals' infrastructure:

“Topicals and Co db which is their holding company called Cost of Doing Business...they want to start acquiring and launching businesses that they feel are at the center of the culture and commerce in any and every category.” ([13:11])

Sara emphasizes the cultural significance of this move, noting that it allows Bread to thrive without compromising its mission to serve marginalized communities:

“We think about building businesses that are led by black and brown people...we are serving their needs first.” ([14:35])

Kirbie reflects on the positive impact of this acquisition on the beauty industry, praising both brands for their dedication to inclusivity and innovation:

“Topicals has been able to keep the ethos of, like, why they started, but scale it in a way that makes sense as a beauty business.” ([15:05])

4. Industry Challenges: Tariffs and Market Impact

The hosts touch upon the looming tariffs, particularly those targeting South Korean imports, and their potential devastating effects on the beauty and fashion industries:

“Fashion and beauty are going to be hit so hard by these tariffs. We will see brands shut down.” ([09:22])

Kirbie expresses concern over the broader economic implications, including job losses and the sustainability of beloved brands:

“It's going to be a really hard couple of months, years, I don't know.” ([10:20])

Sara concurs, highlighting the urgency for consumers to support independent and black-owned brands during these challenging times:

“It's a real bummer, guys. And unfortunately, a lot of people are going to lose their jobs.” ([10:33])

5. Upcoming Highlights and Promotions

Before concluding, Kirbie and Sara tease upcoming episodes and promotions, including a live episode featuring Violette Surrat from Violette FR Friends, and discuss exciting future plans from Bread Beauty Supply, such as their "Year of the Pixie" campaign:

“We are going to announce this and ESSENCE has the scoop on it.” ([18:05])

Sara encourages listeners to stay tuned for more insights and exclusive interviews with industry experts and celebrities.

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Final Thoughts

In this episode of Gloss Angeles, Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan blend personal anecdotes with critical industry analysis, offering listeners a comprehensive look at both the supernatural experiences in Savannah and pivotal moments in the beauty industry. From EmRata’s challenging Venus retrograde haircut to Topicals' strategic acquisition of Bread Beauty Supply, the hosts provide engaging discussions enriched with expert insights and community-focused perspectives.

Notable Quotes:

• “We think about building businesses that are led by black and brown people...we are serving their needs first.” – Sara Tan ([14:35])

• “Topicals has been able to keep the ethos of, like, why they started, but scale it in a way that makes sense as a beauty business.” – Kirbie Johnson ([15:05])

• “Obey Venus retrograde. Don't do it.” – Kirbie Johnson ([23:39])

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Transcript

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[Kirby]

G L A M Los Angeles.

[Sarah]

Hi, Kirby.

[Kirby]

Hi, Sarah. Welcome to Los Angele.

[Sarah]

Okay, we survived the most haunted city in the United States. Kirby and I had a sleepover. If you weren't following us on social, we had a big sleepover. It was Kirby, me, and some ghosts.

[Kirby]

The. The ghosts came out, and I'm not kidding, y'all, and Sarah, like, keeps making fun of me. This was a real thing that happened. Okay. So Sarah was all freaked out that we were staying at Smithfield cottage in Savannah because we were there at SCAD doing a live episode for the students.

[Sarah]

Which Smithfield cottage is owned by the university. They've, like, maintained, you know, the history of the. The architecture. It's from, like, 1888 or something like that. It's, like, super old. But on top of the fact that it's super old, it's, like, decorated impeccably. It's really, really beautiful because SCAD is like an art school. However, there's a lot of strange art that if you believed in haunted spirits, it could get to your head. So the first night that we get there, Kirby and I are the first people to arrive to the Smithfield cottage. They have put Kirby in the back, which is the carriage house, all by herself.

[Kirby]

I had the whole carriage house to myself, which I understood because obviously they wanted me to live the life of luxury.

[Sarah]

Yes, exactly.

[Kirby]

However, you go in one of the first rooms, and there's a painting that says repent on it. And immediately I'm like, no, this is not good. This is not good.

[Sarah]

Even before you go into that room, when you Enter. There are bones on the frickin wall. Like literal like bones of I don't know what, like dog bones.

[Kirby]

Like, and there's skulls just like everywhere. The theme, for no reason at all.

[Sarah]

The theme is skulls.

[Kirby]

There was like a human cadaver in the kitchen. Like it was giving. I'm gonna die.

[Sarah]

It's like tonight like anatomy.

[Kirby]

It wasn't like it was an actual cadaver. Okay. It was like a fake. No shit. It was like a fake.

[Sarah]

I just want to paint the picture. I just want to paint the picture.

[Kirby]

Mannequin with its organs exposed so you can like see its anatomy.

[Sarah]

It was like science class. And then I was put in the main house with the rest of the refinery team. But everyone's flights were delayed, so they like.

[Kirby]

And Sarah, by the way, leading up to this has been freaking out about the ghosts in Smithfield cottage. So she's like, I'm going to be so scared, I'm going to have to take medication. And I'm like, get a grip. It's going to be fine. No big deal. Well then when we get there, I realize I am in a completely separate house from everybod else. So then I'm starting to get scared. And then on top of that, we have the bone, we have the repent, we have the weird child with the freaking bike or slide or whatever.

[Sarah]

And then Kirby also is like looking up like the most haunted spots in Savannah, like right before we go to bed. So I. So I was like, I cannot sleep here in this main house by myself. There's no way I'm gonna be able to sleep. So I'm going to bunk with Kirby. There's her. The art in her room was less frightening. It was like a dog. I mean it wasn't like a comforting painting by any means, but it was. I would rather have a dog looking at me than like a person. I was able to sleep fine the first night. I took some sleep aids and then curvy's like waking me up. It's like. Did you feel a vibration?

[Kirby]

That was the second night. That was the second night.

[Sarah]

What happened the first night?

[Kirby]

First night. Nothing. No, you said wasn't there.

[Sarah]

You said there was weight on your legs.

[Kirby]

Okay, yeah, but like whatever. Like I was like, maybe I'm just like making this up. But I did at one point in the middle of the night feel a weight on my legs, like somebody sitting or like pressing on my legs. And I was just like, stay, keep your eyes closed and don't move at all. Okay. Didn't tell Sarah just was like, whatever, let's move forward. The next night, we had, like, our little good goodbye dinner. So I had, like, a drink or two. I told Sarah I was, like, basically hungover the next day, so I don't drink that often.

[Sarah]

And then I couldn't.

[Kirby]

I fell asleep quickly.

[Sarah]

You did? Because I. We both fell asleep at the same. Well, we both, like, stopped talking at the same time. But then I literally could not sleep for two hours. Like, I was up for two hours. I was, like, tossing. Turning. I was. I felt really bad. I was like, I'm gonna wake Kirby up. But I. I was sweaty. I was hot. And then I was, like, just thinking of all the ghosts, and I was like, fudge. I am not going to be able to fall asleep. I don't know how I fell asleep that night. So I finally did. I probably got, like, two hours of sleep, and then curvy wakes up.

[Kirby]

Okay, I am not making this up. This fudgeing happened, okay? And if I would have. If there would have been a camera in that room, they would have seen it. The bed moved. The bed moved. I felt it, okay? It was a jolt. It wasn't like a shaky. It was like a jolt. And I was facing the wall and Sarah was to the left of me. So I was trying to turn over and sit up to say, did you feel that? I swear to God, my body entirely was vibrating from head to toe. And I could. It was like I was in a dream where you're trying to scream or talk and you can't get a word out. I was literally paralyzed. I'm not even exaggerating my. I remember my arm was, like, by my head, and I was, like, trying to move it, and I could not move. I was trying to say, sarah, did you feel that? And nothing was coming out for at least 30 seconds. And then finally I, like, sat up and I looked at her to go. Did you feel that? She was like, oh, I just thought it was the cleaning lady, like, entering the downstairs. I'm like, no. At 6:00am no, that's. That was not the cleaning lady.

[Sarah]

It was not 6am it was like. It was like 8am it was not.

[Kirby]

8Am it was early because we tried to go back to sleep for an hour.

[Sarah]

It was like, okay, it was like seven or eight because.

[Kirby]

And you were, like, looking at me like, oh, I. And I'm like. But you felt it. You felt it. You thought it was something that jolted the bed. But we have not felt anything of the sort the whole time we were there. So it was weird.

[Sarah]

Yeah.

[Kirby]

So now I am. My. My body is a vessel for whatever ghost has entered.

[Sarah]

I told her. I told her. I think it's Devon Sala. I think it's Casper. I think it is the love of her life.

[Kirby]

It was Casper.

[Sarah]

The love of her life is coming true.

[Kirby]

Life. I married a ghost. That would actually be so on brand for me. I'm like, I don't want him near me. I don't want to see him a lot of the time. Yeah, I would love to just, like, pretend he's not there.

[Sarah]

Then you guys could have a really epic Halloween party.

[Kirby]

Oh, my. Yeah. Right?

[Sarah]

I love Savannah. It is such a beautiful city, but it is just. I am too scared. I'm too scared.

[Kirby]

Yeah. I gotta say, the history there is rough. The history there is rough.

[Sarah]

Also. Kirby and I got stuck, caught in a rainstorm. Thunderstorm, whatever you want to call it. Storm. And it was so funny, but, like, not during. When we got caught.

[Kirby]

We. I, I. We were just walking, and then all of a sudden, it's like, crack of thunder.

[Sarah]

Boom.

[Kirby]

And then I'm like, you've got to be me. And we were soaking wet. I had a leaf on my face. The wind was violently blowing. I mean, it was. It was bonkers. We were sprinting in the rain. We could have hurt ourselves. Wow.

[Sarah]

That. What a time. What a time. It's always pleasure. Scad.

[Kirby]

Yes. So scad. Thanks for having us. I definitely took home a ghost with me.

[Sarah]

Whatever.

[Kirby]

And we're gonna have a live episode go up this week with Violette Surrat of Violette FR Friends. I was definitely not very acquainted with that brand until we found out she was going to be on the podcast. Fully obsessed at this point.

[Sarah]

She's incredible.

[Kirby]

Like, she's incredible products. Incredible. If you can get the Bisou balm. Get it. Because it's sold out. Just get it all over the place.

[Sarah]

Just grab.

[Kirby]

It's only three weeks into Sephora. Get. Like, put it in your Sephora cart for the Sephora sale. I. I am a huge fan of her and her background. You're gonna learn all about it on Friday. You're gonna not want to miss that episode. So let's just quickly get into some news. There wasn't, like, a ton of news.

[Sarah]

No.

[Kirby]

This past week, minus the tariffs that will be or have been implemented, which a lot of people have been asking us. You know what, what does this mean? We've talked about tariffs in the past. You can revisit that episode if you just look it up in Our feed. But a lot of brands have come out, especially with the South Korea tariffs. Fashion and beauty are going to be hit so hard by these tariffs. We will see brands shut down. There will be no way for them to justify marking up prices as high as they need to. Your favorite brands will shut down. It sucks. I don't even think there's a way to keep it from happening, quite frankly. I would say go and support them and of course, buy their products, engage with them on social. Try to be as active as you can in terms of supporting your more independent brands. But even brands that are acquired by big conglomerates, like, if they're not being. If they're not successful and their prices are driven higher, they may have to shut down.

[Sarah]

Right?

[Kirby]

So, yeah, it's a bonus bummer. It's a real bummer, guys. And unfortunately, a lot of people are going to lose their jobs, so I just want to say we're thinking of everyone. It's going to be a really hard couple of months, years, I don't know. But.

[Sarah]

Sucks. God. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kirby]

Can we not catch a break between Covid.

[Sarah]

I know.

[Kirby]

And all like, like the wildfires just. We cannot catch a break. We can't. It's. It's. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom here, guys, but, I mean, this is a serious deal. I have seen so many founders pop on their Instagram to be like, yeah, get ready, get ready. Yeah, it's scary.

[Sarah]

We will continue to keep everyone posted, obviously, and pray for a miracle.

[Kirby]

Pray or think positive thoughts. I don't know. Do a seance, cast a spell, whatever you need to do.

[Sarah]

You connect with your ghost friends.

[Kirby]

Dear ghost, please give me the power.

[Sarah]

To.

[Kirby]

Cast a stair. Cast a spell on Donald Trump. All right, this is the biggest news of the week, I think, Sarah.

[Sarah]

I agree.

[Kirby]

Do you agree?

[Sarah]

I agree. This is really exciting. I was really excited when I saw the headline.

[Kirby]

Also, it's. It's surprising. I. I did not realize that this brand was in this position to do something like this.

[Sarah]

Same.

[Kirby]

But it makes so much sense. ESSENCE got the exclusive on this. Topical's founder tells all about new holding company and Bread Beauty Supply acquisition. So we love Maeve. Maeve is the founder of Bread Beauty Supply, Friend of the podcast. Go listen to her.

[Sarah]

Listen to that up. She is a gem.

[Kirby]

Topicals is a brand that we have been supporting since they launched. We had founder Alamode Olaway on the podcast as well. She is absolutely fantastic. And they. So Topicals now has a holding company, so they were able to acquire Bread, which I think this just makes so much sense. Instead of a llama Day deciding, okay, what's next for Topicals, let's make hair care. They're like, okay, Bread really fits in with Topicals in a really unique way. Let's just figure things out and acquire it and start working together.

[Sarah]

Totally. I love this quote that ESSENCE got from Alama Day where she said, typically when a black owned business gets acquired, so many things are changed and altered in a way that isn't serving our community. That's why for Bread founder Maeva being acquired by another black business is the point. She says they understand what it takes to build a generational defining brand in this market. And I can't wait to see where they want to take the brand. They say it takes a village to raise a child and it's really the same for business.

[Kirby]

Topicals and Co db which is their holding company called Cost of Doing Business, which I think is super cute. Love. They're going to operate independently and Bread has already begun following in the skincare line's footsteps according to ESSENCE by launching their first ever brand film A Love Like Ours, which launched last week. So Alamode says that the president of Topicals and herself co founded the holding company Cost of Doing Business and they want to start acquiring and launching businesses that they feel are at the center of the culture and commerce in any and every category. I think that's really interesting. I wonder if they're going to expand past beauty or outside of beauty rather. It says we're pros in beauty. So obviously beauty was the first category we wanted to start with just because the opportunity came and we have the experience, but we're really excited to build a new age holding company. Sochi, who is the president of Topicals, said that Maeva Abred has been a friend of the brand for a long time. Even within her first year at topicals in 2021, they were trading tips and advice on what they've been seeing and how they were both scaling their businesses. She and Olamide had a conversation saying how they wish they could just run Bread the way that they run Topicals. So obviously this made a lot of sense. Yeah, Mava agreed.

[Sarah]

I love this quote from Sochi. She said, we think about building businesses that are led by black and brown people. Just because it's a black owned business doesn't mean it necessarily is just for black people. We want to give these businesses the opportunity to really shine on a cross cultural stage and that's about transcending culture and us Delivering that value to other people, but making sure that our community is at the foundation of it all. We're serving their needs first. Something we always say at Topicals is when you're serving marginalized communities, you create products that work better for everybody. Right.

[Kirby]

And I think that's one thing that has really helped both Topicals and Bread in terms of their reach of customer. Because as we've talked about with brand founders in the past, you know, in the past year, obviously, De and I has been a big topic of conversation, but a lot of black founders have come out and said, you know, you have to be able to reach past a certain demographic. It's, you know, it benefits everyone if you have a wide net to cast. But then you don't want to lose the central vision of your company, which is to serve marginalized communities. Right. How do you do that? I think that Topicals has done that in such a amazing way since their launch. So many aspects of their business have been so smart. When they launched their first product, the smell, it was like very hot dog water. Very. It has like, a stinky smell to it. And they're like, do you want it to work? Do you want it to work right? This ingredient smells, and nothing's going to mask it. We're not going to send you perfumed hot dog water. You're just going to deal with the hot dog water. They've constantly kept innovating that product. I believe they've gotten it to a point where it doesn't have that strong of a scent anymore. But even just the education that they have laid into, and also that they are like, we're not trying to make you look perfect, but, like, if you have scars, if you have pigmentation, if you have things like this, it's almost like these things that people don't want to advertise about themselves. That's what Topicals is really focused on. And then with Bread, I remember last year, they did this really, they were doing a lot of cool ASMR social content, where it was like, you're hearing, like, gushiness, or you're hearing, like a poor. You're hearing something. And it was almost like. It kind of like, made me uncomfortable in a way, but I couldn't stop watching it.

[Sarah]

Yeah.

[Kirby]

So they have this really great visual aspect to their brand. It's also beautiful. It's also made for people from marginalized communities with certain hair types. However, it also works on every hair type as well. So I. I do feel like these two brands have been able to keep the ethos of, like, why they started, but scale it in a way that makes sense as a beauty business.

[Sarah]

If that makes sense. Yeah. I've just been so in awe of a llama day and how she's grown Topicals. When did we interview her? When they launched, which was like, in 20.

[Kirby]

20.

[Sarah]

20. Yeah. So for her to get to this place where she can now, you know, help other brands grow as big as Topicals is just, like, so, so inspiring. I'm. I'm just really excited to see what they all do. And this is so great for, for Maeva, obviously, like, Bread has just been such a mainstay in hair and. But I think, you know, in this interview she talks about, like, being a solo entrepreneur and how it's just been really hard and so to be able to, like, rely on Olamide and Sochi and to have support. Like, I just, I can't even imagine what, what Bread's gonna be like in the, in the coming years. So congratulations to all of them. This is so exciting.

[Kirby]

Also, this is really interesting. At the end of this ESSENCE article, or not the end, but, like, close to the end. Alamode says in response to the question, do you have any upcoming plans that we can expect from Bread that you want to share? Alamode says, we believe 2025 is the year of the Pixie. We're giving away a hundred free pixie transformations. If you want to cut your hair or you want to get an undetectable pixie wig, we're going to fund you doing that. So as long as you use bread products, we want to see content with you using the bread products. But we're going to fund 100 United States to start. But Bread is also available in the UK and Australia. We're going to work our way there, but in a few days, we're going to announce this and ESSENCE has the scoop on it.

[Sarah]

Cool.

[Kirby]

I love that.

[Sarah]

Should we apply?

[Kirby]

Sarah, I've been asking you to do a fuck ass bob and you won't even do it. So I don't see that in your future.

[Sarah]

I do not have the bone face structure.

[Kirby]

I do not have the face for a pixie. I am not Rihanna.

[Sarah]

I was gonna say I'm not Kravitz.

[Kirby]

Yeah, it's not happening. It's not happening for me. Emma Watson, unfortunately, Emma Stone. Yeah, Emma Stone. It's. I can't. I can't do it. It's a no for me. It's not going to work for me.

[Sarah]

The more hair, the better.

[Kirby]

Speaking of hair, Venus has Been in retrograde. And if there's any reason to believe in astrology, it may be this. God bless Emily Rada Chakowski. Perhaps she did need to be humbled because she is so gorgeous. I have interviewed her before and I find her to be lovely. And also God is fair. I hate to say this in but she is God is fair. I'm like, she's intelligent, she's funny, she's gorgeous. She's so nice. She's the best boobs I've ever seen, girl. Like, I blurred lines. I love that video because I'm like, damn, her tits are incredible. But. And in Gone girl, God said she has too much. Oh, my God. And gone Girl, I'm no, no. Making out with my man Ben Affleck. God, some girls have it all sucks.

[Sarah]

Okay, so God humbled you, especially during.

[Kirby]

God said, emily, you have it all. We must take it away. What is the what she got this haircut.

[Sarah]

What is the one of the number one rules during retrograde? Do not get a major hair transformation. Do not get bangs when Venus is in retrograde.

[Kirby]

Yes. You can't do anything that is outside of the of maintenance. Anything that's outside of maintenance, don't do it. No major surgeries, no haircuts. Don't try filler, Botox, whatever. For the first time, don't do it, okay? Venus has been in retrograde, okay? That's why I'm convinced I've been looking ugly for like the past 30 days or whatever. Okay? I'm not kidding. I'm not even kidding. Okay? So I have to attribute it to that. It's not my hormones, it's not anything else. It's just Mercury or Venus.

[Sarah]

That's like, way more scientific.

[Kirby]

She posts this video on TikTok and we're all like, girl, be so serious. Because she's like covering half of her face. She's like, I'm going to tell you all this, but I got like, the butt ugliest haircut of all time. Like, I don't know if this hairstylist hates me. And I can't remember if she said if it was for a shoot or a campaign or what, but we're all like, okay, be so serious. You're stunning. It cannot be that bad, friends. It is that bad. Whoever did this to her, I need someone to find out and tell Sarah and I on the back end. I'm scared.

[Sarah]

I was so. I'm scared for this person DMing all of our close hairstylist friends. But then I was worried that it was like, could have been them by one of them. Exactly. That's why I was like, who do I know for a fact that it. This wasn't them, but, like, who was it? Who gave her this wolf cut or whatever?

[Kirby]

What is it? So her bangs literally start at the top of the crown of her head. They go all the way back here to the front. That is the most egregious part. It looks like a Beatles haircut, but with long ends. It's like a Florence Henderson haircut.

[Sarah]

Yeah.

[Kirby]

A shag. And it's jagged meets mullet shag gone wrong. I am so terrified of who did this to her. I. I'm, like, praying that she never reveals because this person will not see a job again because all of us are like, this is horrendous. Like, I don't know how. She's literally like, I'm gonna lose my actual job. Like, because this is not a wig. This is my actual hair.

[Sarah]

It was really funny, like, the way that she.

[Kirby]

No, it was like.

[Sarah]

I was like, oh, you're, like, so charming. I. Did she get it fixed yet? Okay, she had an update. She had an update.

[Kirby]

Okay, what's the update?

[Sarah]

The update is that Caristas helped her keep her job. And.

[Kirby]

Oh, yeah. And she. She got. She got a paid partnership out of it. And she's like. And yeah, this is an ad, because it fucking should be. And I'm like, preach, girl.

[Sarah]

Honestly, thank God it happened to her because she's so stunning. Like, whatever happens to her hair, like, she still looks so gorgeous. But the comments, everyone's like, don't worry. In a few weeks, it'll be fine. You'll be able to pull it off.

[Kirby]

She also tried to, like, curl her hair and curl her bangs, and she's like, I think this makes it better. I'm like, it doesn't. It actually makes it so much worse.

[Sarah]

I'm sorry.

[Kirby]

So unfortunately, Em Rada is going to have to suffer. Oh, my God. And there's a horrendous photo of her on Backgrid that I would actually sue them if they posted this. Like, the fact that they did her so dirty on this. I mean, and this is a stunning woman. The fact that, like, Page Six is, like, Em Rada attempts to style the worst haircut of her life. It's basically a mullet. I don't even think this is a.

[Sarah]

No, it's not something beyond that. It's like she got in a fight with, like, like, a pair of scissors and was, like, moving around like this to avoid it.

[Kirby]

I did comment. I did comment on the video and I said, you need to speak to Mark Townsend immediately. He. He can help.

[Sarah]

He can fix this.

[Kirby]

I believe it. I believe it. So, Mark, if you're listening, you need to get in touch with Emrata, like, immediately. We've gotta. We gotta fix this.

[Sarah]

Good for her for getting a sponsorship out of it.

[Kirby]

I mean, she is a carousel ambassador, so, I mean, it made. Yeah, it would be kind of crazy if carousel was like, sorry, we are not supporting you.

[Sarah]

Sorry, we're dropping you.

[Kirby]

So what have we learned, friends? Obey Venus retrograde. Don't do it.

[Sarah]

No, let it grow out.

[Kirby]

Bang. Trims. Okay, because you already have bangs. No new haircuts. Don't do it.

[Sarah]

Don't do anything. Don't try anything new. Don't.

[Kirby]

We're here in solidarity. We are here for you, girl. Love and respect.

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[Kirby]

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