Transcript

Brooke Devard (0:00)

Hello.

Brooke Devard (0:00)

Hello, it's Brooke Devard from Naked Beauty. Join me each week for unfiltered discussion about beauty trends, self care journeys, wellness tips, and the products we absolutely love and cannot get enough of. If you are a skincare obsessive and you spend 20 plus minutes on your skincare routine, this podcast is for you. Or if you're a newbie at the beginning of your skincare journey, you'll love this podcast as well. Because we go so much deeper than beauty, I talk to incredible and inspiring people from across industries about their relationship with beauty. You'll also hear from skin care experts. We break down lots of myths in the beauty industry. If this sounds like your thing, search for naked beauty on your podcast app and listen along. I hope you'll join us.

Jamie Greenberg (0:49)

Hi, kirby. Hi, sarah.

Kirby (0:52)

Welcome to los angeles. Today, we are joined by celebrity makeup artist Jamie Greenberg. We would go through all her accolades, but chances are you already know her, you already love her, you already follow. You already follow her, and we just want to get right into the nitty gritty. We just want to start asking questions.

Jamie Greenberg (1:12)

Let's go.

Kirby (1:13)

Can we do it?

Jamie Greenberg (1:13)

Yeah. I'm so ready. I'm raw for you guys. Should I take my clothes off?

Kirby (1:18)

Welcome to Los Angeles, Jamie Greenberg. We're thrilled to have you. Jamie, what is in your kit? What is something that you always have in your kit when you're working on your clients?

Jamie Greenberg (1:26)

These are a couple products that, like, I swear by Dr. Goldfatten's Radiance Whip mask. Have you guys ever used it?

Brooke Devard (1:34)

No.

Jamie Greenberg (1:34)

Okay. It's this whipped mask. You put it on. So normally what I'll do is I'll do a mask, like a eye mask, and then I'll put this on while we're just, like, chatting, chit chatting, everybody's, you know, blowing out the bangs, whatever, and I'll put it on for 10 minutes, and we'll curl lashes. And we just kind of are getting in the mood. When you take it off, your skin is just, like, glowing. It's, like, luminous, gorgeous. There's no residue left over, but your skin is just hydrated, plump, and it's just instant. I love an instant product. Then I would say lash star curling. I'm obsessed. Like, I know it's like a very. Like, people don't really know that brand that well, but, like, that's literally my job now is just finding, like, weird, quirky brands that I'm just obsessed with. So I think their lash curler is the best. And I want to do things that, like, I Mean like the beauty blender is like a no brainer. Of course. Every pro, every client, no substitution, just the beauty blender. Don't forget to wet it, girls and boys. And then thrive mascara from day one. Best mascara. I don't care what anyone says. Obsessed. Like nothing better. And then doll 10 TCE concealer is a super big game changer.

Summary

Gloss Angeles Episode Summary

Episode: Makeup That Works at Any Age, According to Celebrity MUA Jamie Greenberg
Date: April 3, 2026
Guests: Jamie Greenberg (Celebrity Makeup Artist)
Hosts: Kirbie Johnson & Sara Tan

Episode Overview

In this episode, Kirbie Johnson and Sara Tan sit down with renowned celebrity makeup artist Jamie Greenberg for a candid, laugh-out-loud conversation. Together, they cover Jamie’s essentials for any makeup kit, best makeup strategies for every age, behind-the-scenes truths about being a celebrity MUA, maintaining client relationships, embracing authenticity in both artistry and content creation, and practical, down-to-earth advice for real women—especially those 40+. Jamie doles out wisdom, humor, and tangible makeup tips for anyone who wants to look fresh, at any age.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Jamie’s Non-Negotiables: What’s Always in Her Kit

[01:18 - 03:40]

Dr. Goldfaden’s Radiance Whip Mask: Jamie swears by this “whipped mask” for glowing, hydrated, plump skin with no residue—her favorite instant fix.
Lash Star Curler: “Obsessed… That’s literally my job now, finding weird, quirky brands.” Jamie says it’s the best lash curler around.
Beauty Blender: Still the pro standard—“No substitution, just the beauty blender. Don’t forget to wet it, girls and boys.”
Thrive Mascara: Jamie’s pick for “the best mascara—nothing better.”
Doll 10 TCE Concealer: “Game changer… you can sheer it, and it goes a really long way. Thick, covers well, but doesn’t cake.”

“If you buy [Doll 10 Concealer], you’ll have it to, like, pass down from generation to generation… Forever.” — Jamie [02:44]

Foundation & Concealer Application: Blending, Skin Prep, & Technique

[03:58 - 06:20]

Skin Prep Is Non-Negotiable: Moisturizer and primer must be given time to sink in—rushing leads to cakey, patchy makeup.
Do Eyes First: Jamie applies eye makeup before complexion so skincare can “marinate,” and to avoid ruining base with eyeshadow fallout.
Primer Preferences by Skin Type:
- Oily: “One Size” primer is “incredible—like spackle for your face.”
- Dry: Go for “Laura Mercier hydrating, a classic.”
- Texture/Redness: Old school Smashbox Photo Finish, especially their green color-correcting version: “It will do so much and it’s thinner than piling on more concealer.”
Product Compatibility: Watch for pilling—if it happens, eliminate the culprit. “We don’t have time for that.”

Candid Realities: The Changing World of Celebrity Makeup

[08:45 - 15:30]

“Celebrity MUA” Doesn’t Mean What It Used To:
- Jamie reflects on how access to celebrity clients and the industry’s status have changed with social media: “It was so prestigious… [now] it’s diluted everything.”
- Pay has dropped dramatically for editorial work, even at the highest levels: “You’re lucky if there’s, like, water on the set nowadays.” [11:48]
Jamie’s First Celeb: Lionel Richie—recalling nerves and the realization you simply need to do the job.
Grooming vs. Full Glam: Starting with male clients was easier for Jamie, but she confesses being uncomfortable with the intimacy at times.

Longevity & Relationships: How to Keep Celebrities in Your Chair

[17:21 - 20:51]

The industry is a revolving door—being “ghosted” (not called back) happens to everyone, no matter how successful.
Trust and discretion are paramount: “I do not gossip about my girls to anybody… I think that in the world that we’re in, being able to keep a secret is huge.” [18:26]
Maintaining boundaries and professionalism keeps relationships strong: “You have a job to do, and your job is to make that person feel and look fantastic.”

Losing Clients: Why “Breakups” Happen

[21:20 - 24:36]

Publicists have major power—new management or PR often means new artists.
“It’s a nasty world… Publicists will just be like, ‘You look so much better when Susie does your makeup.’ And then you’re out.” [23:39]
Jamie wishes people would be direct—“Just have a candid conversation… At least you can have closure.” [22:44]

Authenticity vs. Trends: Jamie’s Aesthetic

[25:06 - 26:34]

At one point, Jamie tried to adapt to heavy, trend-driven styles (“Kardashian effect”), but ultimately realized her strengths: “I am a light aesthetic. I’m gonna do your makeup so you look like you, but super refreshed and gorgeous.”
Her advice: “Be yourself and the right people will come into your life.”

“Let them have each other. They’re perfect together.” — Jamie on not chasing every trend [26:27]

Career Evolution: Embracing Content Creation

[27:11 - 32:06]

Jamie was an early adopter: “This came natural to me—I like it. I still like it.” [28:12]
Survived pushback from other artists and publicists; she stuck with content because it felt authentic and creative.
Audience size doesn’t matter—engagement and relatability do.

“Sometimes you can be mighty and small and still accomplish what you want for your life.” — Jamie [30:36]

“Makeup Mistakes” for Women 40+ and Real-World Application Tips

[32:06 - 36:44]

Biggest Mistakes: Using the wrong products, not understanding personal skin needs, holding onto outdated color choices (especially “morgue” brown lipsticks), and being set in old routines.
Key Advice: Simplify your kit, don’t chase every trend, and seek personalized guidance if needed.
Social Media Caution: “We feel the need to, like, do this full glam or contour our face like crazy. If we really never did that before, why do we want to do that now?” [33:57]
Many women are afraid of changing their look, even when it would be more flattering.

Instant Face-Lifting Makeup for Any Age

[36:55 - 38:11]

Elevate Blush Placement: Stop applying blush to the apples of the cheeks—“When you get older, your blush has to be higher up… temples and up.”
Microcurrent Devices: New Face, ZIIP, and others really do work—“but you have to use it, you can’t let it sit in your closet.” [38:11]
Experiment with Tape: For advanced (or event) lifting, practice with “braid” or “Bella Hadid” tape—subtle instant lift.

Foundation & Flawless Finish: Jamie’s Application Secrets

[39:35 - 41:44]

Avoid Demarcation Lines: “I was just at a lunch… and this woman had a full dark face and then a line of demarcation from neck down. How is this still happening?”
Blending Over Dragging: “You have to get a really good brush… bounce it onto your skin. You want your skin to look like skin. You don’t want to look like you’re spackled.”
A Little Sheen: “At my age, I like a little bit of sheen in my foundation because I want to look wet—I’m so dry.”
Bouncing, Not Dragging: Press and bounce product for seamless application—especially with matte formulas.

Jamie’s Brand Highlights

[42:00 - 44:02]

Blylighter (blush + highlighter in one)—Jamie’s “first birth,” always a best-seller.
BFMR (Best Fucking Makeup Remover): The true “hero” of her line, an oil-infused remover that works on everyone, doesn’t irritate, and “gets everything, even Sharpie, out.”

“If you’re still drawing your brows with Sharpie, you need the makeup remover.” — Jamie [44:02]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On product longevity: “You could live in a shelter… forever. Literally forever.” [02:44, Jamie on Doll 10 Concealer]
On changing industry status: “It was so prestigious when I started… now it’s diluted everything.” [09:02, Jamie]
On client loss: “We don’t have feelings—but it happens to everyone. The Patty Dubrovs down to the new, everyone gets ghosted.” [17:38, Jamie]
On boundaries: “You have a job to do… If you’re bringing in bad energy… people stop using you because you cross a line.” [19:35, Jamie]
On self-worth: “Be yourself and the right people will come into your life.” [26:34, Jamie’s husband]
On content creation: “I never blew up to Patrick Ta numbers… But I have my audience. Sometimes you can be mighty and small…” [30:36, Jamie]
On maturity and makeup: “At my age, I like a little bit of sheen in my foundation because I want to look wet—now that I’m so dry.” [40:42, Jamie]

Timestamps for Important Segments

01:18 – Jamie’s kit essentials
03:58 – Foundation/concealer blending tips
06:20 – Primer recommendations by skin type
08:45 – The changing nature of being a celebrity MUA
12:05 – First celebrity client (Lionel Richie)
17:21 – Keeping clients long-term & the pain of “ghosting”
21:20 – Why and how “breakups” happen with clients
25:06 – Coping with trends vs. authenticity in artistry
27:11 – Transitioning into content creation
32:06 – Makeup mistakes women 40+ make
36:55 – How to instantly lift your face with makeup (blush placement & microcurrent)
39:35 – Foundation blending and skin finish techniques
42:00 – Jamie’s own line: products she’s most proud of

Takeaways & Final Words

Jamie Greenberg reminds listeners that makeup is personal, practice-based, and should adapt with you—not just with trends. Her humor and realness demystify celebrity beauty, while her practical advice makes better makeup achievable for all. Simplify your kit, prep your skin, don’t be afraid to lift that blush—and above all, be yourself, whether you’re behind the chair or in front of the mirror.