Gloss Angeles Podcast Summary

Episode: Natch Beaute’s Jackie Johnson Returns to Talk Blephs, Texas Glam, and Second Husbands
Hosts: Kirbie Johnson & Sara Tan
Guest: Jackie Johnson (Natch Beauté)
Release Date: September 26, 2025

Episode Overview

This lively and candid episode welcomes beauty podcaster and comedian Jackie Johnson back to Gloss Angeles. The conversation flows between personal stories, hot beauty takes, the realities of cosmetic surgery, motherhood, life post-divorce, and navigating a beauty career in a changing media landscape. Jackie, always honest and hilarious, shares her adventures with plastic surgery, storytelling on TikTok, her iconic “How to Get a Second Husband” stage show, and why she has no plans to resurrect her hit podcast, Natch Beauté.

Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Jackie’s Grand Return – Life, Chaos, and the Joy of Realness

• Jackie’s energy is infectious as she dives into what it’s like to be back in-person with the hosts, her affection for their work, and the gloriously messy nature of motherhood.
• The conversation quickly becomes delightfully unfiltered, covering everything from the chaos of parenting to the cultural epidemic of grown men not wiping properly (03:01), drawing laughter and solidarity from both hosts and listeners.

Memorable Quote

"My son is the unbothered king. Like, I pick him up from school, and I'm like, I guess we didn't go over wiping today, but he doesn't give a fuck." – Jackie Johnson [03:29]

2. Jackie’s One-Woman Show and Storytelling Renaissance

• Jackie discusses her ongoing one-woman comedy show “How to Get a Second Husband,” the catharsis and hustle of touring, and how sharing her life on TikTok feels like a new chapter (05:27–08:20).
• Inspired by viral storytellers, she’s openly discussing life events she never touched on during her podcasting heyday, even considering adapting her show for TikTok, referencing others’ viral-to-development deals.
• Audience impact: Both hosts praise how Jackie's TikTok stories made them laugh and cry. "She is such an incredible storyteller." – Sara [08:13]

3. Cosmetic Enhancements: Jackie’s Blepharoplasty Journey (“Snatching the Face”)

• Jackie talks candidly about her decision to get blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery) at 40, prepping listeners for a transparent account of the research, the process, LA’s cosmetic culture, and what recovery really looks like (09:19–14:46).
• She names Dr. Z (Dr. Zumalan, Beverly Hills) as her surgeon—known for expertise and price ($12,000) (12:28–12:52).
• Jackie emphasizes choosing a qualified surgeon and avoiding bargain deals:

  “He told me, ‘I fix Groupon blephs every day.’ You do not want a Groupon bleph.” [14:13]

• Discussion expands to the broader cultural normalization of “lunch break” surgeries and the psychological aspects of facial work (15:29–16:13, 16:46).
• Recovery: “It wasn’t in any pain. I took Tylenol the day of my surgery. That’s it.” – Jackie [17:41]
• The prevalence of eyelid surgery and cosmetic enhancements, balancing transparency with acceptance of aging, and the double-edged sword of societal commentary are explored (15:29–33:00).

4. Beauty Product Obsessions & DIY Brow Wisdom (20:16–27:00)

Jackie's Current Top Faves

• 1. Blepharoplasty (as a form of self-care and rejuvenation)
• 2. Beauty of Joseon SPF (white cap, Korean version): “Absolutely translucent… there’s nothing better.” [20:23]
• 3. DIY Brows:
  • NYX Brow Glue and Lift & Snatch Pen: Jackie’s hack—trim the pen tip to a single hair for realistic strokes (“the doll hair technique”) [24:32–26:12].
  • “This is actually product development now for NYX. They’re gonna have to make a version that’s just like this: one hair.” – Kirby [26:06]

Bonus Rec

• Labubu bag as a practical and adorable mom accessory (27:06)
• Shopping tip: Santa Anita Mall’s Shibuyala for hard-to-find Asian beauty products.

5. Reflection: Cosmetic Work, Motherhood & Radical Acceptance

• Jackie discusses how motherhood (of a son) intersects with her decisions about aesthetic interventions and the nuanced struggle to accept aging versus wanting to look her best (29:04–30:24).
• Conversation around social pressures, dysmorphia, and why mindful consumption (not following surgeons on IG, etc.) is crucial for mental health (29:54).
• Kirbie and Sara acknowledge how public women can’t win: “If nobody ever did anything, all the comments would say is how tired she looks…” – Jackie [31:21]

On Doing What You Want

"That’s the thing—you just have to do what the fuck you want." – Jackie [32:46]

6. Second Husbands, Self-Worth & Relationship Glow-Ups

• Jackie opens up about her first marriage to a narcissist and how it eroded her self-esteem, sharing the healing and affirming experience of meeting her now-husband Ben (34:14–37:38).
• She offers hope and advice to women navigating divorce and dating in their 30s/40s, celebrating how Ben’s affirmations reminded her she’s “hot and lovable.”
• “When you’re looking for your second husband, you might already know him.” – Jackie [35:54]
• Encouragement for listeners: “You deserve to be loved the way you want to be loved.” – Jackie [37:01]

7. Upbringing, Texas Glam, and the Rocky Horror Picture Show

• Jackie shares how her mother’s unapologetic glamour and love of weird movies shaped her, recounting the infamous “sweet transvestite at six” Rocky Horror moment that contributed to her parents’ divorce—and her lifelong love of camp and confidence (41:53–45:16).
• Best beauty lesson from mom: "Your toes and nails have to always match." [40:15]
• Parenting differently: Jackie is now much more careful about media exposure with her own son.

8. The Changing Podcasting Landscape & Natch Beauté’s Legacy

• Jackie gives a frank look at why she won’t revive her iconic beauty podcast, detailing how industry shifts (celebrity podcasts, shrinking ad revenue, production costs) have squeezed out independents:

  “I watched my checks get smaller and smaller… it ended up costing more than I was making, and it just didn’t make sense for my family.” [50:05]

• The Golden Globes' new podcast category sparks debate about who “deserves” podcast accolades in a celebrity-saturated space (53:00–53:51).
• Nostalgia and appreciation for her podcasting era, but no plans for a comeback—though guesting is a “joy” [54:39].

9. Where to Find Jackie Now

• TikTok: @JackieMichelle (with one ‘L’)
• Instagram: @jackiemichellejohnson
• Patreon: patreon.com/JackieJohnson (“It’s kind of a secret club… The first episode was about why I stopped Natch Beauté and I get into the tea.”) [55:18–56:27]

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On plastic surgery choices:
  "You pay the price… He is an absolute expert in the craft." – Jackie [13:11]
• On industry change:
  “The suits got involved. The way things work changed.” – Jackie [51:59]
• On confidence and self-worth:
  "You deserve to be loved the way you want to be loved. And if your partner is not providing that for you… wave a little red flag, sweetie." – Jackie [37:01]
• On “lunch break” surgery and the normalization of cosmetic tweaks:
  “My friend says, ‘the gateway drug of plastic surgeries.'” – Jackie [15:45]
• Cosmetic culture humor:
  “I'm going to get my hands full of my back fat, you know. Can I come with you?” – Jackie [32:52]
• On the emotional relief of leaving Natch Beauté:
  “Now guesting is so fun… I don’t have to worry about the emails and editing and all that.” – Jackie [54:39]

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Content Overview | Time | |---|---|---| | Opening & Welcoming Jackie | Singing, chaos of motherhood, TikTok storytelling | 00:34–08:42 | | Jackie’s Comedy Show & TikTok Life Stories | Touring, viral storytelling | 05:27–08:20 | | Blepharoplasty Deep Dive | Research, process, surgeon choice, recovery | 09:19–18:47 | | Product Picks & DIY Brows | Beauty obsessions, brow hack tutorial | 20:16–27:00 | | Motherhood, Aging & Cosmetic Choices | Transparency, dysmorphia, doing what feels right | 29:04–33:00 | | Self-Worth & Second Husband Wisdom | Divorce, confidence, Ben’s support | 34:14–37:38 | | Beauty Upbringing & Rocky Horror | Texas glam, pageant days, family storytime | 41:53–47:13 | | Industry Change & Natch Beauté's End | Podcast economics, celebrity saturation | 50:03–54:39 | | Where to Find Jackie Now | Socials, Patreon | 55:18–56:27 |

Conclusion

This episode is a warm, irreverent, and insightful conversation about beauty—inside and out. Jackie Johnson brings vulnerability, wisdom, and comedic honesty to everything from plastic surgery and the evolution of beauty culture to personal growth, motherhood, and the realities of creative careers. Her journey—from Los Angeles glitz to TikTok tea and from heartbreak to second-husband bliss—is both entertaining and relatable, offering inspiration and laughter in equal measure.