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Today on the show, we are activating our reverse prescience, rather. Yeah, it's like looking into the future.
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Right.
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It's like seeing what tomorrow holds, but yesterday. Okay, I wish there was a better word for it, but I think reverse prescience is the best word.
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Reverse. Yeah. I'm gonna stick with. Welcome to Gom Jabbar, your guide to the iconic world of Dune. We'll be exploring the themes, philosophies and characters found in the sandy depths of this vast universe, from Frank Herbert's groundbreaking novels to the adaptations on film and tv. My name's Abu.
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My name is Leo.
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And Leo. And yeah, it's the end of another year of being a Dune fan. It is another year of our lives, another year of this podcast, another year of existence for the human race. Good job.
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Humanity lapped the sun again. This cosmic relay is still going.
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It's still going. We'll see how long that lasts. At least for today, though, Leo, you and I are gonna do. We love to do a sort of recap, end of year episode where we take a look back at all of the big things that happened in the Dune universe over the course of the year. So that's exactly what we're going to do today to round out 2025.
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Indeed. Now, today's spoiler warning is kind of more meta in the world. If you haven't seen the news, maybe we're spoiling real world events, but there will be some light spoilers for Dune prophecy and the first three books of Dune. We will warn you going into that, but if you are a regular listener of Gom Jabbar, you're fine.
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That's right. And of course, before we get into it, a huge shout out to our Kwisatz AT Rec level patrons. Daniel Dion, Seth Redding, Greer, Brad Hutchins, who's in the live chat right now, Kevin Mahonram and Roger Young.
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Dang. Wow.
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There is no group of five people I'd much rather hurdle around the sun in a somewhat elliptical way than this group right here.
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Yeah. Glad to have your company and glad to have your support. And gratitude is also an ellipses or a spiral kind of helical situation.
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Right. We're speaking on a cosmic level. I hope you're keeping up. Thank you so much to our Kwisatz Aterac level patrons. But of course, that thank you extends to all of our patrons at every level who truly help make this show possible. We say it every episode, but we mean it every single time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
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Well, okay, so let's talk about the game plan for today's episode. Yeah. We are going to talk about film and tv, the things that have happened, the things that are going to happen, the kind of where things stand in their current production cycle.
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That's right.
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We'll talk a little bit about print, the world of print with Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. They're not stopping. So there's some comics and graphic novels to talk about. And we'll wrap up with some video game chat about Dune awakening the open world MMO that some of our live chat folks are like, very active in. And it's very cool.
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Yeah. All of that and more folks coming up in just a minute. Let's take a quick break. When we come back, we're taking stock of the dune fandom in 2025.
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So good, so good, so good.
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Welcome back, everybody. Oh, I hope you're ready to talk about Dune. This is Gom Jabbar. Let's talk about film and TV. Let's talk about Dune prophecy. Abu, this feels like 36 years ago.
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Truly it does.
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That Dune prophecy came out. But believe it or not, 2025 started with the kind of tail end of our Dune Prophecy coverage as the first season of the HBO show wrapped up.
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That's right.
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Now we had the extreme privilege of interviewing the showrunner and executive producer of that show. Early on in our coverage, we had some fun collaborations with Nerd Cookies and Quinn and Alt Shift X. And we had Alt Shift X come back for another episode this year. That was huge. So exciting. Love everything Alt does. And the show Dune Prophecy received generally mixed reviews. The Rotten Tomatoes score sits at 65% and Metacritic also has it at 65. On the praise side of things, people said production design was great. Some performances were really, really, really strong critique side of things. There were some pacing issues. The writing was very hit or miss and character development was kind of all over the place a little bit. Yeah. And generally we agree. I think ultimately we abu landed on slightly different sides of the fence. I really enjoyed it. I had a few moments like the Ixian person in the alleyway selling the. I hated that. But I generally liked a lot of it. And some of those final moments in the season, really excellent. Like, I loved. The acting was really great and some of the visual effects were really fun. I enjoyed it. I was enjoying the ride. But I know that that was not as much a year experience.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, we said our piece in our episodes, if you're interested, definitely go back and check out our coverage. But I walked away ultimately disappointed in the first season for a number of reasons, but also hopeful that it got renewed for a second season and that we might see a little second season comeback for the show. I am a big proponent of letting shows breathe and not doing the Netflix take the hatchet to it and cancel that shit like two seasons in and never actually let a show find its feet. We wouldn't have Parks and Recreation if it had been canceled. And it's terrible first season.
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Right.
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So I am all for letting this show continue to take a shot, take a crack at the Dune universe. And I'm looking forward to season two. I'll be excited to cover it together.
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Yeah, it'll be fun. And honestly, again, it is worth remembering we talked at length about the rocky production. Hell, that was that show getting off the ground.
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Right.
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Like the number of times the showrunners swapped out, the executive producers swapped out, the main cast swapped out, they recorded. Actors came and went, directors came and went. It was chaos. So the fact that they even delivered something that's getting 65 out of 100 is like, hey, there's a lot of shit that never even gets made. And they got it made and they got it finished. And I think that anyone enjoyed anything of it is worth celebrating. And hopefully now that they have this sort of like season two flag planted, maybe they can approach it with a little bit more of like a holistic vision that can deliver a really strong product. Yeah, again, I'm hopeful and I agree. I think everyone I took away from our interviews with the showrunners, like, they're really passionate about Dune and they're really.
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Oh, Definitely, Yeah, they love it.
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So, you know, I wish the best for them and I'm excited to see what they do.
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Yeah, same here. And actually, let's talk a little bit about season two because we have a couple of details and a couple of hints about what's to come. Although it's still been pretty quiet.
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Reverse prescience time.
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Hello. So in December 2024, the show did officially get renewed for a second season. And in fact, this year, November 2025, season two officially began filming. And according to the Hollywood Reporter, this season is actually expanding from six episodes to eight, which I'm incredibly happy to hear because one of my biggest critiques for the first season was the pacing and the issues with how few episodes we had. So things either felt too rushed or there wasn't enough detail or exploration and we didn't sit with the character arcs long enough. You know, like it was a double edged sword there with the lack of episodes. And so I'm glad to see season two potentially expanding and having a bit more room to breathe.
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Yeah, I'm hopeful. That's good news, I think.
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Yeah, I think that's good news. Speaking of things being added to the show, though, we do have casting news. I think you and I generally have the same opinion about casting news. And it's like, okay, you know, but we know three actors that have been cast for the second season. Indira Varma, who's known for her roles in Game of Thrones, Obi Wan Kenobi, Rome. Tom Hollander, who's been in Pride and Prejudice, Pirates of the Caribbean, White Lotus, and Ashley Walters, and he's been in Speed Racer, Top Boy, Bulletproof, among others. So, you know, seasoned TV actors. Indira Varma, I think is the one that stands out the most to me from those three. Just because I think she was excellent in Game of Thrones.
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I had to look it up, but she was one of the sand snakes. She was one of the sort of.
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Like in Game of Thrones. Correct.
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Yeah.
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So again, I usually don't like follow actors and their careers and have like opinions on actors, really. So whenever, like, casting announcements come out, I usually don't have any hot takes. I'm just like, okay, great, we'll see how they do.
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Unless it's fucking Chris Pratt as anything.
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That is what. You're true. You're right. You're right. That is one actor I have opinions on and he can get fucked.
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Yeah. I mean, again, I hope these actors have fun and are good. Great.
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Get that bag.
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You know, get that bag.
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Get that HBO bag.
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Be like Travis Flamel. Just have a blast.
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Yeah. Oh, excuse me, it's not the HBO bag anymore, it's the Netflix bag.
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Sorry. Yeah. Netflix has of course been acquired by Johnson Johnson, which is acquired by Kellogg, which has now also been acquired by Alphabet. So, you know, that's great. The era of mergers.
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Yeah, everything's great. Everything's fine in TV and entertainment. Don't worry about it, folks.
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Don't worry about it. Also on December 12, HBO released a sizzle reel of their upcoming shows in 2026. And there was a glimpse at about the 1 minute and 32nd mark of Dune Prophecy Season 2, which seems to imply the show is going to be coming out in 2026 at some time. Cool, cool. Very exciting. We'll have to see if that's the case.
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That'll be fun. I wonder if they'll try to time it a little more closer to the movie to ride the hype cycle, you know?
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Yeah, okay. Well, that's Dune Prophecy. Let's talk about Dune Part 2, which of course came out in 2024, but of course 2025, we had the Oscars for the 2024 year and broadly and I think we agree on this. Dune Part two, I think better than Dune Part one. Yeah, I think it's a better, stronger, more exciting. The highs are higher, the darks are dark. It's great. What a fucking good movie.
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What a movie.
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What a movie. And yet at the Oscars it was nominated for only five Oscars. Sad. What a pittance. What a scraps from the table, you know, just five. Only five should have been 30.
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Wow.
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There aren't even that many categories.
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Pathetic.
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Pathetic. Well, this is of course in comparison to Dune Part 1, which was nominated for 10 Oscars and I think won like seven of them. It was crazy. It really goes to show, like Dune Part one, I think caught people off guard and was a very strong showing for that awards season. Part two maybe had different competition and.
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Despite had a lot to live up to.
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It had a lot to live up to and people's expectations and you know, it basically was nominated for best picture, production design, sound cinematography and visual effects. And it won. It ended up winning two of those sound and visual effects which, yeah, both very much deserved it. Incredible.
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Yes.
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Incredible looking movie and incredible sounding movie. What a fucking great movie.
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If you folks, if you get a new sound system for Christmas or something, if you treat yourself to a new sound bar, surround sound system for your home theater, Dune Part 2 is the movie you should be testing that System on, crank that volume as high as you can, and sink into the sands of Dune Part 2. Such an incredible score, Such incredible sound design. A well deserved Oscar win for sure.
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Yeah, agreed.
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Okay, last little bit about the Oscars here and about Dune Part 2 in 2025. Notably, I think one of the narratives at the Oscars around Dune Part two was the fact that Denis Villeneuve was snubbed for a Best Director nomination. Did not get the nomination at all, despite a lot of buzz around the fact that he could get one, he should get one, et cetera. But I do want to call out that during the Oscars, the sound designer, Gareth John, went up to accept the award for Best sound, which of course, the film won, and directly called Villeneuve the best director you could ever work for. End quote. And then asked the audience to applaud Denis Villeneuve, sort of, you know, tipping his hat to the person that really steered the ship and made these films possible. Overall, I agree. I do think Villeneuve should have, at the very least, been nominated for these two films. You know, these two films that I think will become cornerstones in the sci fi film genre for decades to come.
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I also, I just pulled up a list of who was nominated, and I know that there are, like, limited spots in nominations. I think some categories, I think you can only have five nominees or.
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Right.
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But, man, some of those other movies just did not make a mark on their respective genres the way that Dune Part 2 has and will continue to. And then you talk to every actor and you talk to Patrice Vermette, you talk to any of these people and they go, it's Denis Vision. He's the one driving it.
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Right.
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And how often is that the case? It's just. I do, Yeah, I think he was snubbed.
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And then you also hear about how lovely he seemingly is to work for. He's not one of those, like, he's great, problematic auteur directors who, like, he's not one of those directors. He's not legendary for being needy on set or pushing his actors to the breaking point or anything like that. He seems like a generally lovely person to work with. And the whole cast and crew of the Dune films has had nothing but nice things to say about Denis Villeneuve. So I really do think he should have been nominated for the Oscar. But we'll see. Maybe he will for Part three.
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Okay, let's talk about the world of print for a bit. On the Dune books front, it's been pretty quiet for the franchise, but of course we have the Dune House Carino Comics completing its run this year and was collected into trade paperback featuring all eight issues.
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Cool.
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This is, of course, a Brian Herbert, Kevin J. Anderson prequel comic book adaptation. And we've talked about House Atreides and House Harkonnen. The art is generally really hit or miss, but when it's hitting, it's really beautiful. Like, some of the art is gorgeous and some of it has like big fat sausage fingers. And I'm like, the person who drew these sausage fingers has never seen a human hand. What is happening? What's happening?
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Right?
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What is happening here? Where, like the.
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It's just really mixed quality all around. Yeah.
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Very strange. It just seems, and I think we always come away from reading those comics as kind of being like this feels like just a cash grab from everybody. No one's really pouring their love into every panel, clearly, because some of them look great and some of them don't, and that's very strange. But generally, I would say if you're interested in them, you can find them around maybe Libby or at the library or just go to Barnes and Noble, get yourself a hot chocolate, go to Barnes and Noble and just read them.
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Just stand, honestly, sit in the corner and.
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Fast. You know, you get to see robo table and you get to see some other fun things, but like that, you know, that's fine.
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Don't spend your money on them.
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No, no, I don't think it's worth it.
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They're not worth the effort. Along those same lines, we also have some more comic book news this year around Dune. The Dune Edge of a Crysknife collection released in 2025. And here's the synopsis for this collection. The secrets of the desert run deep in this pivotal collection from the expanded Dune universe. Dive into two thrilling standalone stories exploring the myth and legacy of Shadout Mapes and her son Samos. From COVID sabotage of the Harkonnen spice operations to a daring Fremen led assault, this thrilling saga spans generations of rebellion. Feature fueled by honor, vengeance, and the fury of Shai Hulud itself. End quote. Okay, my reaction to that is cool.
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Yeah. All right. Samos. Samos. Aran. I was gonna say bounty. Metroid.
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It's giving Metroid wow.
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Shai Hulud itself. I'd like a comic following Shai Hulud as a worm. It's just angry at shit. That'd be fun.
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It's like a hunk, you know, hungry caterpillar that like kids like. Just hungry. Shy lute. Just like the kids version of Hungry, shy, elude. Yeah. So this is a comic book adaptation of a novella which is also titled Edge of a Crysknife from Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's Sands of Dune short story collection. The novel, the written works, and the general consensus online seems to be the same as the house comic adaptations. Art can be good, can be pretty, but the story is, like, lacking. And ultimately it's like a three out of five at best. And so, yeah, if you're interested, if you're like a completionist who wants to collect the Dune comics or find every bit of Dune media out there, Edge of a Crystknife is something that came out this year that you might want to keep on your radar. But if you're like us and these aren't of a huge interest to you, then, yeah, read that shit at Barnes and Noble. You know, sit in the corner and just read it real quick.
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Thousand percent. Big fan. Big fan of hanging out in Barnes and Noble. I might post up at a Barnes and Noble. Maybe they've tempted me into not spending money. I mean, don't get me wrong, dear listening, hold your horses. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm keeping my hard earned Solaris for myself, but, you know.
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A hot chocolate in the corner at Barnes and Noble while you quietly read this. Honestly, sounds like a fun afternoon.
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That sounds great. Well, last bit of news here for Dune. Print stuff, of course. Was the Folio Society, ooh, the Temptation releasing their Children of Dune and God, Emperor of Dune editions? And they look so fucking gorgeous. They look so good. They are firing on all cylinders over there now. Each book, each individual book will set you back $115. So there's that. But hear me out. It's fucking beautiful.
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They're gorgeous. Yeah, definitely. Check out the Folio Society's adaptations. I mean, the Folio Society does amazing stuff for a lot of series, and I'm constantly tempted to just spend so much money on their website. But the Dune books are gorgeous. They've done Dune, Dune, Messiah in past years, and this year they released Children of God, Emperor of Dune. The art's beautiful and it's definitely worth checking out if you're someone who likes to collect that sort of thing. I don't think these are the kind of books you, like, throw in your backpack and get on the train to work and read them on the subway and spill coffee all over. Yeah, yeah. These are not your performative reading outside books. These go on a shelf and look gorgeous, and you open them up and look at the pretty pictures every now.
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And then, ironically, because this would work. If I saw a performative mail on like a coffee shop reading one of these, I'd be like, here's my number, I guess, like, do you have a Venmo? I'll send you money. I don't know what you want, but I'll give you it, Right?
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Here's my calendar for the rest of the week. You just put something on my calendar.
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Claim any amount of time. The COVID of the Dune book is just so fucking beautiful. It's just incredible. And each one features multiple illustrations by different artists. I think it's a totally reasonable price for what they're putting out. But you do need to be in a position to have a collector's item for sure.
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Right? I mean, like, I'm all for those Folio society artists getting their money.
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Yeah.
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So they can price that whatever they want because the art is beautiful. Okay, enough gushing about Folio society, folks. There's your updates about Dune prophecy, Dune part 2 at the Oscars, and the print news in the dune universe in 2025. Let's take another quick break, but stick around because when we come back, we still gotta talk about Dune Awakening, one of the biggest moments in the dune fandom in 2025. And of course, we'll wrap up today's conversation later in the episode by talking about Dune Part 3 and what we know about it and what we hope to see. Stick around. We'll be back in a minute.
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Welcome back, everybody. Oh, I hope you enjoyed your break. Hope you're ready to talk about video games as well as some other things. Yeah, let's talk about awakening. Because this year, 2025 got us the release of the MMO, the massively multiplayer online video game set on Arrakis in an alternative timeline. What if Jessica Harkonnen followed the Bene Gesserit orders and had a daughter?
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Whoa.
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What would have happened? Fascinating concept and really cool. And you take, of course, the role of a mysterious prisoner released. There are plans within plans, and you're crafting shit and you're building things and you're taking part. At one point, you're like meeting Fenring and you're like meeting these cool characters.
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Yeah. Thufir Hawat is there.
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Thufir Hawat. Duncan Idaho's around. Like, it's real, it's cool. It's very fun.
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You're flying to Arrakeen City, you're flying to Arco City. You're building your ornithopter. It's fun.
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So cool. And the game started strong. When it came out, we had about 140,000 players, but has struggled a little bit to find its. Which is to say, it struggled a lot to find its footing in a world where we have quite a few MMOs going.
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Right.
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And, you know, even though it sold a lot, I mean, I think it sold over a million copies in the first two weeks. Huge player retention has cratered. And a lot of the critique around the game that has led to people not playing it fall on some notably missing elements. I think a lot of people were really excited to be on Arrakis, to meet the Fremen, to spend time with the Fremen, to go into sietches and to kind of feel that world.
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Yeah.
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And you don't really do that that much. You are mostly crafting things and trying to pay your taxes and planning the next trip to the deep desert and unlocking new stuff and building new stuff and building up. There isn't as much of the living in a vibrant, organic world. It feels very like a survival game with this sort of Dune veneer.
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Right.
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And I'll be clear. I think that the veneer is deep. I think that there's a lot.
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Yes, it's very well done.
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It's very, very well done. The problem is the gameplay loop doesn't feel like Dune.
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Yeah. Especially when you're playing single player. I don't think either of us really got into the late game guild stuff. I think both of us dropped the game before we got to that point with our characters. But a lot of our community have definitely been doing that. And I've just kind of been watching it from the outside. And all of that looks quite robust and fun. Although there are many criticisms of the late game with the Deep desert and the PvP part of the game, generally very positive Reviews about the PvE part of the game where you're just playing the survival part in your crafting and building up your bases and working alongside your guild members and sharing resources, all that good stuff. But then the grind into the Deep Desert is I think, where a lot of folks dropped off, based on my research. But for what it's worth, I think it's also worth calling out that the studio Funcom have been very responsive to player feedback and critiques. If they've made a number of changes and tweaks to the Deep Desert to try and adjust that gameplay loop according to player feedback. Some of it, I think. For better and worse, there's been a big DLC release, the Lost Harvest, that introduced a standalone story arc, some new vehicles and cosmetics, some new building sets, the usual MMO DLC stuff. But I don't think there has been a huge shift in tides for the game yet. The player counts have continued to sort of fall off a cliff in a way that feels scary for the longevity of the game and for the future outlook of the game. The folks who love it are still around, they're still playing it and having a great time. But I think there was a huge set of players who enjoyed maybe the first 50, 100 hours of the game and then dropped in and never came back and have yet to be given a reason to come back. And I consider myself part of that category. I think I put like 30, 40 hours into the game and honestly haven't picked it up since.
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Yeah, it's hard because the carrot that is being dangled for like come back and play the game, a lot of it is late game stuff and a lot of the late game stuff involves a PvP element. It's not necessary anymore. It was for quite a while. If you wanted to. If you wanted late game elements for crafting powerful, cool things, you had to go into PvP areas. They adjusted that. They heard the feedback, they made that adjustment. But it is hard because I had the experience. I got quite far in the game, I played a lot and I had the experience multiple times. At one point a bug like disconnected me while I was flying my ornithopter in the deep desert. And then I reconnected minus the ornithopter in the middle of the deep desert and died. And when you die in the deep desert, you lose all of your shit permanently. And then I was like, well, I'm not going to play for a little while. I didn't play for a few weeks. My base's batteries died, my shields went down, and then both of my ornithopters disappeared. I think they just broke. And when they broke, they just vanished. But the result of that is I've probably played like 10, 15 hours just fucking building new ornithopters. Cause I'm like, God damn it, I need an ornithopter to do half the shit that I want to do. And I don't mind a bit of grind, but when you're doing the same grind again and again because of systems or bugs or little things, like, it's really hard. There was a storage and inventory issue where, like, if you were flying an ornithopter and you had a bunch of shit in inventory, it would just become invisible and then you couldn't use it and then you would lose shit when you put it. And it was like, that is so experience breaking. And to your point, the devs have listened and I'm sure that if I picked it up today with fresh eyes, I would have a blast and I wouldn't run into some of those same issues. The problem is I have put like 70 hours into the game and it's hard to unlearn some of the trauma from those experiences. So it's hard. I think they have a couple of big questions to answer and ultimately, yeah, they released a new wheel vehicle. And I'm like, well, that's not in Dune. So I'm not like, as a Dune fan, I'm not like, yeah, wheels.
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B
Yeah. I think that one of my biggest critiques is that it's been very slow on the story front. As someone who was there for the Dune universe, universe part of it, and less for the crafting survival game part of it. Because I don't like crafting survival games. I have not been given a reason to really come back. Even the story additions have been really drip feed. There hasn't been a significant story expansion or here's a whole nother area of Arrakis that we've created that you can explore now. Full of new characters and new storylines. Obviously that is a huge undertaking and we can't ask the game to just be like dropping bombshells like that mere months or even 6 to 12 months after release. But personally, for me, that's a big reason I haven't come back is I don't like the grind. So I'm not gonna just come back and grind more I don't like the survival aspect of the game or the base building aspect of the game. It felt like a chore.
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A
That's most of the game.
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B
And that's most of the game, unfortunately.
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A
Don't really like gathering resources or building bases. Like the Dune part.
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B
I liked doing the quests until I started running of quests that weren't just like, go fetch this thing and come back. Or like, go collect 12 of these and come back. It's like, I'm not getting any story out of this anymore, you know? So, like, that. That's where I kind of started falling off. And in fact, I really got into building one of my bases. I was like, okay, wait, maybe I do like base building. Let me build a second floor. What's going on here? And then, like, you know, life happened and I'm out of town for a week and then I come back and I fire up the game and my. I'm like out of fucking batteries in my base and my base has. My whole second floor has disappeared or something. And honestly, I distinctly remember that's the moment where I, like, I just closed the game and I was like, I'm not coming back. Like, if I can't pick up the game after being gone for a week because there's like, upkeep, it's like, then it feels like a chore. And I realized, like, this is not a Dune Awakening critique. This is a critique of, like, MMO survival. The whole genre as a whole requires you to, like, log in regularly and play regularly and keep your ornithopters, like you're saying, like, fixed and keep up with all that upkeep and pay your bills and whatever. I do all of that in real life, like, I'm not looking for that in my video games. And I'm really. I come to video games for, like, immersion and storytelling and narrative. I just finished God of War Ragnarok last night, actually, and just like, wept so much. Like, one of the best games I've ever played in my life. One of the best narratives I've ever.
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A
Experienced from incredible writing too. I haven't even played the game, but I've seen clips and it's just unreal. Some of the character moments are out.
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B
In this world for me. That's what I find in games. Obviously everyone finds something different out of video games, and Dune Awakening just doesn't provide that for me yet. If and when there is a huge story DLC that drops, that's the day I'll be logging back on, I think, okay. Let's move on to talking about the future. Let's tap into our reverse, reverse prescience.
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A
Oh my God.
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B
And take a look ahead at 2026. And I think obviously the big moment in 2026, in addition to Dune prophecy coming back, is going to be Dune Part 3, Denis Villenuve's next and reportedly final addition to the Dune franchise. Here's what we know so far. Here's a couple of details on Dune Part 3. As of November 11th of this year, November 11th, 2025, we have confirmation that Dune Part 3 has wrapped filming.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Filming locations for the movie included Hungary, Jordan, the uae. A lot of places where you expect there to be deserts, understandably.
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A
Yeah. Or like giant indoor sound stages.
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B
Yeah. So as of today's recording, as of when you, dear listener, are listening to this episode, the movie is in post production. Folks are done filming. Timothee Chalamet is free to go off and make other masterpiece films that aren't titled Dune. Villeneuve in general has been very hush hush about the script and the project and the direction of the film. But obviously from some of the confirmed casting, we can make some safe assumptions based on what we know from the books Dune Messiah and Children of Dune and what characters will be returning for this film. So Jason Momoa has confirmed that he'll be back for Duncan Idaho. Again, that makes a lot of sense. Hate is a huge character in Dune Messiah.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
Here's what Momoa had to say. Quote, well, I'm not sure if I'm going to get in trouble or not, but it's the same thing like Game of Thrones, you know what I mean? If you didn't read the books, it's not my fault.
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A
Right.
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B
Yeah, there's going to be. I'm gonna be back, end quote.
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A
Yeah. He's like, I don't mean to spoil a 50 year old book.
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B
Right.
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A
But my character comes back.
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B
But if you didn't read it, that's kind of on you. Yeah. I think Jason Momoa all but basically confirming that he'll be playing Hate in the movie.
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A
Yeah. Of course Rebecca Ferguson is returning as Lady Jessica. Jessica doesn't really play that much of a role in Dune Messiah. She's kind of missing. She goes back to Caladan, she's having night ties on the beach with Gurney Halleck, you know. But Denis Villeneuve has stated he worked in a couple of scenes for Lady Jessica. Okay, you know, we'll talk about this, but there's talk about flashforwards and sort of like glimpses of the future. Perhaps similar to seeing Alia in Dune Part 2.
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B
Right.
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A
It's possible. That's also a place where we're gonna see more of Jessica, if we're seeing her and her role in Children of Dune or whatever. So we'll see. But always nice to see Rebecca Ferguson. She's a great actress. It's always fun to see her. Silo was so good. Such a good show.
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B
Yeah. Silo on Apple tv. So good. Okay, this next casting news I actually do have opinions on. So I'm kind of walking back what I said earlier in the episode. Robert Pattinson confirmed to be in the film and very likely confirmed gonna play Scytale. All signs point to Pattinson playing the iconic character Scytale in this film.
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A
I think that's a fucking great call.
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B
That's so good. Such a great casting choice.
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A
I think, like, Pattinson is so good. First of all, he's just a great actor. Like, he's done some phenomenal work. He's very subtle. He's got a lot of range. But like, Scytale being this sort of disarmingly, like, again, that he can be. You think I'm kind of an idiot, but actually I'm the most dangerous person in this fucking movie. I think that's great. And yeah, Mick Rack says Pattinson is too beautiful to be Scytale. Wrong. He's a face dancer. He's whatever he wants to be.
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B
He can be as beautiful as he wants.
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A
He can be as beautiful as he wants. Mick. I. I think Pattinson's so.
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B
I'm glad we all agree that Robert Pattinson is beautiful, though.
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A
He's so hot. Oh, he's a hottie. And again, that's kind of a prerequisite for being in these fucking movies. You just gotta be a good looking person. And I think he checks all the boxes. Yeah. I'm super excited.
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B
Yeah. Ask me why I love Tenet so much and the answer rhymes with Pobert Rabbitson. Okay. I fucking love that movie. And Robert Pattin has so much juice in that movie. He's just like aura farming the whole.
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A
It's incredible.
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B
I'm excited for this casting. I'm excited that Scytale gets such a big actor. And I think he's gonna kill it. I think he's gonna do well.
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A
We watched. Was it Mickey 17 together? Was that the movie? Yeah.
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B
Yeah. Didn't we go to see Mickey? Mickey 17 together?
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A
You and I watched Mickey 17 together. That movie was okay. It was okay.
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B
Super okay.
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A
It was okay. Super okay. But God, Damn, Robert Pattinson. So good. Acted his fucking face. It was so good. Yeah, he's so good. So I'm very excited about that. What a weirdo.
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B
Pattinson is such a fucking weirdo in.
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A
Reality and he like, lies all the time. It's very funny.
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B
Yeah, I like that he's an incredibly weird person in real life, but in kind of a way where you think he's maybe the only stable famous person you've ever met. You know, he's able to disassociate from.
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A
Being famous enough fully. Yeah. And I love when people ask him about things he said and he's like, that wasn't true. We're like, what do you mean? What the fuck? What the fuck, man.
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B
Okay, let's move on from Robbie Pat. I feel like we could gush about him forever. These next two casting reveals are kind of huge. And I think within the doomed fandom have stirred up lots and lots and lots of conversation about the direction that Villeneuve is taking with the film.
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A
Are these, by the way, are these confirmed for the roles?
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B
Yes.
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A
Oh, really?
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B
Yes, really. I should say them. We're like really hyping it up. So Nakoa Wolf Momoa. Yes. Jason Momoa's son is confirmed for the role of Leto ii. And Ayda Brooke is confirmed for the role of Ganima. So two young actors confirmed for these child roles that don't make an appearance until Children of Dune. Technically, yeah.
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A
Can I just say that Ida Brooke, fucking spectacular casting because she's young Shirley in Silo, But God damn, Ayda Brooke looks like she could be Zendaya's daughter.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's wild. And she looks great. I'm like, she's a great Ganima for sure.
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B
That's a great gneema. Yes.
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A
Great Genima. Nikoa Wolf Momoa. Uh huh. I have mixed feelings.
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B
Same.
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A
Because this is his first role in anything.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And Jason Momoa is, I think, a good actor.
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B
I don't think he's the best or anything.
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A
He's not great. And are we. Why are we, Man? I am curious. Cause also, I guess I don't really know what I was picturing for Leto, but I think of Leto as being quite waifish, quite thin and scrawny and small. Nekoa Wolf seems like kind of a big dude. Like a big child. He's 16, but he's standing next to his dad.
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B
He's tall, right?
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A
He's tall as shit. How tall is this child?
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B
He's never been in a movie. Leo, how do we measure him? If he's never been in a movie before.
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A
Jason Momoa is six four, so Nakoa.
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B
Okay. And he's, like, standing next to his dad in this photo, like, almost. He's easily six foot.
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A
Yeah. Or like, yeah, like, high, high five. Low six. I, I. Yeah.
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B
I don't know about this.
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A
Yeah. Also, Ryan, Duncan, why does my son look like you? Is such a valid question. Doesn't exactly look like Zendaya or Timothy.
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B
Yeah. Oh, gosh.
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A
What's going on in the back room? That Duncan Idaho looks like Leto too.
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B
Hmm.
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A
I don't know.
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B
Again, I have the same doubts you do. The other possibility here is that these characters were cast not because this movie will bleed into Children of Dune, which I don't think it will do. There's been a lot of speculation that Villeneuve is going to attempt some sort of Dune Messiah slash Children of Dune movie and smash them together. I don't think that's where we're going at all.
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A
I don't think so either. Yeah.
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B
I wonder if these two have been cast as some sort of like, alternate visions of the future. The what if Visions of a future. Maybe they. Maybe we won't even see them on screen and we'll just hear voices. Right. Like, they could simply be providing voice talent here. It's true in these roles that perhaps Timothy Chalamet, you know, Paul Atreides hears in his visions or something. So I think it's, like, too presumptive to jump to conclusions about Children of Dune being a part of this movie. Just because these two have been cast, I think at most they will be used as visions of a potential future that Paul Atreides sees. And at least they'll be used as.
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A
Just, like, voices, you know, you bring up a great point, because in the first movie, we get shots of Timothy and Zendaya and Jessica looking down from that, like, drop ship during the jihad.
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B
Yes.
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A
And that Villeneuve has played with fake.
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B
Visions of alternate futures that don't actually come to pass.
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A
Right. So it's. I could see that, like Paul. Again, a big theme in Messiah is Paul trying to find a way to visions that don't involve, say, the death of Chani. Honestly, there's so many ways it could work. I trust, Denis. So whatever the vision, I just don't. I guess I also kind of recoil a little bit when it's like, nepotism. I get that. Nepotism.
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B
Yeah. This feels a little bit.
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A
But, like, again, I don't know. So we'll see. Again, I don't want to Cast any shade on Nikoa Wolfe before his first fucking role. Like, that's not fair. Maybe. It's totally possible he came in and it was a favor to Jason that Denis saw his tape or whatever, and then maybe he delivered a fucking unbelievable performance. And in fact, I think Jason Momoa said that he cried watching his son act. In People magazine reports, Jason Momoa says he cried watching his son act with Zendaya in Dune Part 3. He just killed it.
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B
So that feels like a vision.
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A
Because that'd be a vision.
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B
Chani never interacts with her children. She literally dies in childbirth.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So this feels like an alternate vision of an alternate future. One of many that Paul will see in this movie. Maybe about his kids. Who knows?
- [46:34]
A
Yeah. So I don't know, but the live chat is so ridiculous. Barkbot in the Shrek musical's crazy.
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B
Okay, I have two final bits of Dune Part 3 news that I want to chat with you about before we wrap up today. One, it seems like the movie's going to be moved up. It was originally slated for December 2026, but then Marvel swooped in and was like, psych, we're going to release the next Avengers movie on the same day as Dune Part 3. And so I think rumor has it that the release date of Dune will potentially move up a couple of months to maybe around September. Ish.
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A
But okay, honestly, and I know this is neither here nor there, do you think Marvel movies carry the box office weight that you still do?
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B
I think Avengers Doomsday in particular will, because RDJ will be back.
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A
Yeah. But me and a chunk of the fandom are like, who the fuck cares? That's weird.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But I think he's a great actor.
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B
Get me wrong, it is still, especially during sort of a Christmas holiday weekend, late December, releasing an Avengers movie with RDJ coming back. People are just gonna go see that. Even if it's bad. It's just gonna consume the box office. And I think it's too risky of a business proposition to release your big budget, huge movie on the same exact day as an Avengers movie. I agree, though. Marvel, this is a whole nother conversation, but Marvel's stock has definitely declined in recent years. They're not the behemoth they once were, but I think they are still big enough where you just don't try to compete.
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A
Yeah. I also think that for me and a lot of people, right before 2020, endgame or no. No. When did Endgame come out? Endgame Part two?
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B
Yeah, it was before the pandemic. So that Endgame was one of the best theater experiences I've ever had.
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A
The crowd was fucking wild on your left, Captain. Like, so I was going to say, like, I went to Alamo Drafthouse and I watched Endgame Part 2 alone in the theater in 2019, and it was probably one of the best theater experiences I've had. So for that reason, I'm like, if I'm going to go to the theater, it's going to be to see something like a Villeneuve film or a giant Marvel's film that has some crazy budget. But, yeah, that's fair. Okay, so that makes sense. So you think they're gonna push it forward to avoid conflicting box office times?
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B
Yes, that's what the rumors are saying, that there are conversations happening at Warner Brothers, basically, about changing the release of the film and pushing it up a little bit if they can't, obviously. I'm sure there's like, a million production questions they have to answer first.
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A
And I think Villeneuve is the kind of person to be like, no, right. Like, we'll push it back because I'm not going to release something that's not exactly what I want it to be.
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B
Yeah, I'd be heartbroken if it got pushed back. I think they will push for it to move forward if possible. And currently the rumors say could be as early as September.
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A
Yeah, I could see that.
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B
Last bit of news I want to chat with you about. Timothee Chalamet recently gave some interviews. He's out and about promoting Marty supreme, which I really do want to see. It looks great. And he confirmed that there is a time jump in Dune Part three, and he wasn't. He didn't give the clearest of answers, but he did say, I'm playing like someone who's 15, 20 years older. So he gave us a window that.
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A
Confirms quite a bit regarding. We're very likely not going to be seeing a ton of. Immediately following the events of Dune Part 2. We are very likely going to very quickly move into Paul Atreides as Emperor to get to the events of Dune Messiah.
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B
Yeah, I am heartened to hear that confirmation as well that we're seeing a time jump. Because there has been other types of speculation about this movie based on how Part two ended, where people were like, oh, well, Chani's gotta come around. And there's a bunch of stuff that has to happen before the Messiah plotline can even begin, before the time jump can even happen. Is Dune Part three gonna spend a bunch of time pre time jump? You know, like on Chani And Paul's relationship. I suspect some of that might still be there, but I don't think it's gonna be a significant part of the movie.
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A
It would be so funny if it opens the way that Messiah opens, where Paul's getting back from a walk, she's, like, massaging his legs. And then they just go, man, wasn't it crazy the way you, like, stormed off into the desert?
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B
And one time we, like, broke up, babe. And then we got back together.
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A
They're like, yeah. And then how did you come back? Well, remember you said this and. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Just all tell, no show, right?
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B
Yeah. I suspect that's exactly how it will not happen.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I'm sure Villeneuve has an elegant solution to bridging the gap between part two and part three. But I'm glad there's a time jump. I'm glad we're jumping right into Messiah, which I've said many times on this podcast. It's my favorite book in the series. I can't wait to see Emperor Paul Atreides and aged up Paul and really depressed Paul. It's gonna be awesome. Timothee Chalamet is gonna get to get real dark in this movie.
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A
Yeah. And I think we saw some of that in Dune Part 2, and it's so good. Like, him really in it is so, so, so great. I think he has the chops, and I'm really excited to see it. Have you seen the reporting about Timothee Chalamet being the rapper? The UK rapper? Do you know what I'm talking about?
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B
No. No. What?
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A
Sdkid. So Timothee Chalamet people have pointed out that this UK rapper named Sdkid, E S D E E Kid, looks like Timothee Chalamet because he's always wearing a mask covering his nose and mouth and, like, a hood, so you can't tell who, but his eyes look a little bit like Timothee Chalamet.
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B
Oh, okay.
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A
And Timothee Chalamet used to do rap videos on YouTube or whatever. And he clearly likes hip hop and rap. And so it's like people are going, oh, yeah. And now people have gone to, like, fully, directly being like, Timothee Chalamet RUSD kid. And every time he goes, I've got two words for you, or something like this, he goes, I've got two words for you. All will be revealed in due time. Just, like, so many words.
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B
This fucking guy.
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A
This fucking guy.
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B
I know we were gushing about Robbie.
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A
Pat.
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B
If we can take, like, two minutes to Gush. About Timothy Chalamet. I just want to say I think he's one of the greatest actors of our time and one of the most amazing entertainers of our time. Not only because he's is just so talented on screen. Like, he's got the juice, but he's not, like, shy about that. I love the interviews and clips of him that always go viral where he's just like, yeah, I went out there and gave him my best because I want to win.
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A
Yeah. And I like, bitch, why do you.
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B
Think I'm out here? I'm out here to do the best and be better than everyone else. And that's kind of, like brash, you know? Like, when you're famous, you're expected to be, like, so humble and be like, I'm so lucky I got here, and I'm so blessed I'm on the show. Which is all well and fair. Like, definitely humbleness is good. Have a nice dose of humbleness in your diet. But I kind of love someone who's like, I got the juice. I'm at the top of my game. And you all know that. I know that. Let's not pretend. Yeah. So I've been a big fan of following Timothy's career, and I'm very much interested in the movies he's putting out.
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A
Yeah. And honestly, like, yeah. And Ryan says, and then there's Wonka. I honestly fucking loved Wonka. I watched it. I watched Timothee Chalamet as Willy Wonka, fully expecting to be, like, what a shitty movie. I just expected it to be bad. I enjoyed it so much. And to see Timothee Chalamet go from, like, Paul Atreides, Call Me by youy Name was, like, a fucking phenomenal movie that he sold.
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B
Yes.
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A
2000%. And then on SNL, he's the silliest.
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B
Oh, my God.
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A
Like, it's so funny, that digital short where he's, like, a businessman about to jump off the roof, and he's playing his, like, froggy music, and it's all, like, blorky glorpy. And the guys are like, maybe we can just walk away. No one saw us talking to him. Like, we'll let him jump.
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B
I mean, the viral thing of him being the radiator, like, it's.
- [55:23]
A
He's so funny.
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B
So funny.
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A
Yeah. I think he's got so much room.
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B
Until he does something problematic and gets his ass canceled or something. I'm a Chalamet fan for now.
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A
Can I tell you the one thing that I don't like about him?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Who he's dating.
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B
Oh, yeah. I could have guessed that.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. I listen, I don't like. I don't like the Kardashians. I don't like the Jenners. I don't like. I don't like that. I don't know. I don't like that part of society.
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B
He's young and rich and famous. Let him make some mistakes, you know? That does not feel like a relationship that's going to go anywhere.
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A
Yeah. And anyway, yeah, it's fine. It's like, again, it's like you have this, like, as we're talking about, you have this incredible storyteller, and he's an actor and he's an artist, and he's so clearly brilliant. And then it's like, I like to imagine him settling down with someone who's, like, similarly creative and stuff. And to be fair, I'm not super familiar with Kylie Jenner's game, but my understanding is that she's kind of a. She's really beautiful and she does beauty stuff, and that's kind of her whole brand. And I'm like, that's fine. But it's not the same world of creativity that I see in acting in Hollywood. But maybe, again, that's judgmental. I don't know. I don't know.
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B
I think he can do whatever he wants in his personal life.
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A
No.
- [56:47]
B
As long as he keeps bringing that juice to the screen, he's ours. I don't care what he does in his personal life.
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A
Give us our juice.
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B
Plus, you have to remember, he is so young. It's like, would you not date the hottest, dumbest person you've met if you were rich and famous and, like, had the juice? Yeah, of course you would.
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He's 29.
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He's in his 20s still.
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He's late 20s. He's almost 30.
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You're not like a real person until you're 32.
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How old are you right now? You're 30? 33.
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I'm 32. I finally feel like a real person, like an adult.
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Two days ago, you were like, whoa, I'm a real person.
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Suddenly. Oh, I care so much about taxes and how the lawn looks.
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Oh, my God. I should vote in local elections. I'm excited for jury duty suddenly. My God.
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Oh, my goodness. All right. Okay. Well, those are our thoughts, mostly on Timothee Chalamet and Robert Pattinson, and then a little bit of thoughts on Dune in 2025. But it's been a great year. I think it's been Just like closing thoughts. I've had such a fun time being a dune fan in 2025. We've been saying this literally now for like five fucking years. But if you're not on the Dune bandwagon yet, get on, folks. There's plenty of room and there's so much to be excited about in the years to Dune fan. I do think as good of a year 2025 has been for Dune fans, it has been a bit of a holding pattern. I think the marketing machine, the Dune machine is really going to kick back up in 2026. Around the movie, around the show. This year was kind of like a holding pattern, wait and see. Dune is in the subconsciousness, but maybe not in the consciousness. I think 2026, it's going to be back in the forefront.
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I think that's true. Also, Brad Hutchins points out this year we went to the Frank Herbert archives. That was this year, personally, a big year for us.
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Yeah.
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Unbelievable. That was great. Yeah. A huge thank you again to Patricia.
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Yeah.
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Well, dear listeners, before we go, best ways to support us, of course, become a patron. Patreon.com Gom Jabbar literally, we could not do this without the support of our patrons. And the live chat today is so much fun and the Discord is so cool. And again, the best by a mile. The best part of Dune prophecy was the Discord chat. People losing their minds. It was so much fun. So legitimately, in addition to being able to actually have this as a job and to put the time that this podcast requires 20 hours per episode, easy, that is only possible with the support of our patrons. So thank you or our merch store again, shameless self plug. But what I'm holding up to camera now is our ornithopter flight mug, one of my favorite products that is now live in the. Look at that gentle gradient from the dark blue to the light blue. I'm very happy with how it turned out. Yeah, those are live at the live stream.
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Chose right now to make your video super blurry and pixelated. So I'm just gonna imagine the gradient in my mind's eye.
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Just picture a beautiful. Yeah, for our listeners, just picture. Oh, it's just Chef's Kiss. Except I'm the chef so I'm not allowed to kiss. Point is Gomjabar Shop is the new URL. And again, I'll talk about it during State of the Union, but I have some huge plans for cool Dune shit. I'm also gonna be sending out to all of our patrons a holiday gift in the next week or two, which I think is gonna be very fun for when you're with your family. And Abu, it's that the thing that I've been working on for a long the document.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. So now I'm intrigued as well. I'm holding my brain.
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Yeah. I'm gonna be sending out a digital gift for all of our patrons as a thank you.
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I'm so excited for my dad. Digital gift.
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Yeah. Get hyped. It's going to only really be fun with other people. So this is the time of year. Anyway. Point is gomdabar shop patreon.com gomjabbar those are the best ways to support us and what we do because we love doing it and we love Dune and we love doing it for y'.
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All. That's right. And finally, a quick reminder that we love to hear from you. Gomjabbarpodcastmail.com folks, send us your thoughts. Send us your questions. Of course, course. Include cute pictures of your pets. You gotta pay the pet tax or we won't open your email. We'll open your email still. Come to our podcastmail.com. that's the best place to reach out and get in touch with us if you don't hear back from us for many, many weeks. We're sorry. We saw the email. We just don't have time to give you a proper response. And we try to give everybody a proper response. So we'll get back. We'll get back to you eventually. But we read all of them. Great.
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Great.
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That's it for 2025. Gonna go take a nap now.
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Happy New Year.
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Well, friends, there is no real ending. It's just the place where you stop the recording. But this podcast is always one step beyond logic. So help spread the word of Muadib and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. And be sure to check out the other shows on the lower party podcast network, laurparty.com you can also follow us on Twitter and Instagram at Lore Party. And of course, we're also on YouTube. Thank you so much for listening. And remember, whoever controls the podcast controls the universe. We'll see you on the golden path.
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