Love Island Apology, and is Botox Back? | Good For You Podcast with Whitney Cummings | EP 297

Summary

Good For You Podcast: Episode 297 – "Love Island Apology, and is Botox Back?"
Release Date: July 14, 2025
Host: Whitney Cummings

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Introduction

In Episode 297 of the "Good For You" podcast, Whitney Cummings delves into the controversies surrounding reality TV, focusing on the recent apology issued by a contestant from "Love Island." Additionally, Whitney explores the resurgence of Botox in the entertainment industry, critiquing its pervasive influence on television aesthetics.

Navigating Podcasting and Content Creation (00:00 – 03:00)

Whitney begins the episode by expressing her genuine love for podcasting, contrasting it with previous periods where she felt less passionate about the medium. She candidly discusses the challenges of balancing humor with offensive content:

Whitney Cummings [00:45]: "If too many people like you, you're doing something very wrong."

Whitney emphasizes the importance of pushing boundaries in her content, even if it means facing backlash. She also touches on her experience with moderating comments on YouTube, highlighting the necessity of blocking certain words to maintain a conducive environment for her audience.

The Prevalence of Botox in Media (03:00 – 07:00)

A significant portion of the episode critiques the widespread use of Botox among TV personalities. Whitney laments how Botox has become an unwritten rule for maintaining a "well-rested" appearance on screen, which she finds unnatural and indicative of deeper industry issues.

Whitney Cummings [04:30]: "I don’t want my TV stars to look well rested. I don’t want anyone to look rested."

She argues that Botox diminishes genuine expressions, making performances appear lifeless and scripted. Whitney questions the ethics behind promoting Botox as a wrinkle-preventing solution, suggesting that it fosters unrealistic beauty standards.

Introducing the "I'm Watching You" Segment (07:00 – 14:00)

Whitney unveils a new segment titled "I'm Watching You," where she scrutinizes public figures who she believes are hiding true intentions behind exaggerated personas. This week, her focus shifts to a controversy involving a "Love Island" contestant's public apology.

Whitney Cummings [07:13]: "Introducing a new segment today. It is called 'I'm watching you.'"

Deep Dive: Love Island's Controversial Apology (14:00 – 50:00)

The core of the episode revolves around the apology issued by Sierra Ortega, a contestant from "Love Island." Whitney and her co-hosts, including Annie Letterman and Grace Cummings, dissect the apology's authenticity and delivery. They critique the performative aspects of the apology, noting elements like Sierra's choice of attire and background props, which Whitney believes undermine the sincerity of her message.

Whitney Cummings [35:21]: "She’s trying to make a joke, but it just, like, didn’t."

The conversation highlights the problematic nature of celebrity apologies in the age of social media, where public figures often appear obliged to address their missteps but may do so in ways that seem more self-serving than remorseful. Whitney draws parallels between Sierra's apology and historical instances of poorly executed public apologies, emphasizing the importance of genuine accountability over performative gestures.

Whitney Cummings [43:22]: "The longer you apologize, dance around an apology, the longer I'm like, hold on, hold on."

Reality TV's Impact on Society (50:00 – 53:03)

Whitney shifts the discussion to the broader influence of reality TV on societal norms and behaviors. She contends that shows like "Love Island" shape viewers' perceptions of relationships, self-worth, and social interactions. The hosts debate whether reality TV serves as a modern-day gladiator arena, where participants' flaws and conflicts are exploited for entertainment.

Whitney Cummings [50:00]: "Love Island is the public square, the town square to do public shaming, to show people what's not okay."

Personal Anecdotes and Family Insights (53:03 – 54:07)

Towards the end of the episode, Whitney engages in a light-hearted exchange with her cousin Grace Cummings. They share personal stories and reflections on handling public scrutiny and personal growth. This segment adds a relatable and intimate dimension to the podcast, showcasing Whitney's ability to blend humor with meaningful conversation.

Grace Cummings [53:04]: "I thought, I don't know if you're the best person to do that either."

Conclusion

Whitney wraps up Episode 297 by reinforcing the importance of authenticity in public apologies and media representations. She underscores the necessity for public figures to genuinely address their mistakes rather than resorting to superficial gestures that fail to resonate with their audience.

Whitney Cummings [54:07]: "And as always, don't ride elephants, you dumb, dumb. Love you mean it by Sam."

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Notable Quotes:

• Whitney Cummings [00:45]: "If too many people like you, you're doing something very wrong."
• Whitney Cummings [04:30]: "I don’t want my TV stars to look well rested. I don’t want anyone to look rested."
• Whitney Cummings [07:13]: "Introducing a new segment today. It is called 'I'm watching you.'"
• Whitney Cummings [35:21]: "She’s trying to make a joke, but it just, like, didn’t."
• Whitney Cummings [43:22]: "The longer you apologize, dance around an apology, the longer I'm like, hold on, hold on."
• Whitney Cummings [50:00]: "Love Island is the public square, the town square to do public shaming, to show people what's not okay."
• Whitney Cummings [54:07]: "And as always, don't ride elephants, you dumb, dumb. Love you mean it by Sam."

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Final Thoughts

Episode 297 of "Good For You" offers a critical examination of the intersection between reality TV, public apologies, and beauty standards enforced by practices like Botox. Whitney Cummings masterfully navigates these topics with her characteristic humor and incisive commentary, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful insights into contemporary media culture.

Transcript

[Whitney Cummings]

Hi, guys. Never not pedaling my wares. I'll say it as fast as I can. I'll be in ridgefield, Connecticut on September 5th, and then in Huntington, New York on the 6th. And I'm going to Vancouver, Canada, on the 12th. Norfolk, in Richmond. Just go to Google. I hate promoting dates. It's so embarrassing. But I'm like, so funny. Guys, I want to start the podcast by just saying that I love doing this. I went through some times where I did not love podcasting, and I'm sure you guys noticed I was having guests on who are really funny, but sometimes, like, you know, I want to go to really, like, incendiary places. That's going to get me in trouble. But a lot of guests don't like. A lot of guests, like, are like, can we not talk about Ellen set looking like the Epstein island mosque? Like, can we like, I don't want to be a part of this. I'm like, let's go toddlers twerking on Ellen. Let's like, I'm joking. So I was getting annoyed a little bit because I feel like people come on and we do, like, all this funny stuff, and they'd be like, can you cut that, please? Because it's, like, offensive and I'm gonna get in trouble. I'm like, yeah, good. That's the point. Like, if too many people like you, you're doing something very wrong. I also love podcast. I stopped listening to podcasts as homework. It's a great replacement for your inner monologue. You know when people are like, I don't listen to podcasts. I'm like, cool. It's just you all day, just your thoughts. Does you one on one point you that you. You're just thinking your thoughts all day. I take replacing your inner monologue very seriously. And so I just want to say I am. I'm just in it. Look at me. I'm like, putting on earrings for the podcast now I've got on, like, bronzer. Let's go. I've also been reading the comments. I'll tell you what. Okay, we. We're in a good. Because I found out that you can auto block words on YouTube for the comments, and that is what makes social media tolerable for a female comedian who's wearing someone else's hair on their head. So I am like, I feel so cozy here. I feel so welcome here. I love YouTube. I auto block words. And when you auto block words, this is a process that really helps you look in the mirror. What words do you think I Had to block Pat. This will end our professional relationship is my guess.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm just glad you're challenging the creative writing skills of your fans. They want to get something to show up. They got to come up with a. Oh, they do.

[Whitney Cummings]

If you want to. If you want to troll me, you have to, like, it has to be original.

[Annie Letterman]

You got to get ahead of you.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's something I wouldn't have thought to block. When I start blocking Centaur, you know what I mean? That's when things get interesting. It's. It's. It's pretty much all the same. It's like, whore, busted, Botox. Which I do not get anymore, by the way. I was told by a network executive to get Botox because I looked tired. No, I was tired because I would get notes from you at midnight saying we're not rooting for the female character because she doesn't want to get married. So I'd have to rewrite the whole thing to say that she did want to get married, even though the executive was on his third marriage. That wasn't going so great because you're emailing me at midnight about how badly I should want to get married. The point is, the dermatologist says that Botox is prevention of wrinkles. And then you're like, wait, I'm preventing them? And they're like, how long am I going to prevent them for before I get to just enjoy the prevention of it? I just. I think micro expressions are important, so I'm going to not. Do I need to scowl? You know, I think it's important to be able to scowl. I also. I don't know. Like, it's like, why does everyone on TV have to get Botox? It's just like, a rule. It's like a rule, which I think is odd. You have to look well rested. I don't want my TV stars to look well rested. I don't want anyone to look rested. Frankly, there's something fishy about anyone. That's just like. Like, you sleep at night. What are you up to? Like, anyone that doesn't have insomnia at this point and just wake up at 2 in the morning, like, sweating, like, I need a bunker. Like, if you don't do that every night, you're mentally ill. There's something wrong with you. I know a show is going to be bad when everyone looks rested, like, the actual actor. I'm like, so did you put any work into this? You weren't up late learning your lines, coming up with choices, behaviors. You just fell asleep you're not nervous about being on a set. I watch with the sound on and still need subtitles because I don't know what a woman on TV is trying to say, even when she says it, because there's no micro expressions. Get Botox if you want. If you want not. That's the other thing. You're shaming Botox people. I was one and I will be one again. Staying a little break. I'm doing a TV show again soon, and I just. I want to look like a person. I'm not gonna, like, pull a fast one. And you guys are just like, think I'm 25. Can we have wrinkles back on television? Just, like, a little bit? Like, did they. Was there a study to, like. We did a study. We found that men cannot get erections if women look disappointing or show their feelings. They can tune out a woman's voice. But men are biologically wired to react to a woman's micro expressions. We just need to lose them entirely because it's exhausting to have to feel sorry for you. And if you. If you look sad, I'll fall in love with you. And, you know, we can't date coworkers anymore. I don't know. All of this is to say I'm just, like, more at peace with the negative comments. There's not a ton of negative comments. Like, I'm, like, excited to read the comments and respond to the comments on YouTube now. Like, I no longer post a video and then make, like, the look on my face. That's now how every Diddy jury member will drink water for the rest of their lives. Just like, no. I feel like the Diddy trial people now can drink water and eat food without worrying that they're going to get poisoned or, like, start their car without worrying it's going to burst into flames now that they say he's innocent, Diddy being innocent and there being no Epstein list at the same time, it just really does mean that we are Russia identifying as America. No good people are going to run for office. So this is as good as it's going to get. We got to stop with this. Like, these powerful people, they're losers. You have to be okay with dorks running the world and try to blackmail people. They can't solve problems like normal people because they never had friends. All powerful people are only cool to literal children. You're Santa. You're the Easter bunny. You're a king. You are a crown with jewels. You have a cape. The only people are impressed by kings and lords and Presidents are people who go as them for Halloween. Age appropriate women are not impressed by them. They can only date underage because those are the only people that are impressed by their job. Like whenever I see someone like an actor with like an underage girl, it's like, so what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you talking about? What are you doing? You're talking about what color boo boo she got. That's a riveting conversation to you. You just want someone to laugh at your bad jokes. You've never worked a day in your life. If you are born into power, you don't know how to use your hands. That's not hot to any adult woman. Oh, cool, you have a bunch of jewels you stole from Africa. Only a 16 year old would be like, oh my God, Jules. When someone's a creep with younger girls, it's not only the physical, it's also the mental of who they want to be around. Only people that think they're amazing who don't challenge them and they just get dumber and dumber and more detached and more detached. You don't want to be around adults because adults don't let you be the fake powerful cartoon character prom queen king you are. The problem with young girls is deeper than just the physical creepiness. Do you know what I'm saying? You're. You want to hang out with them. The darkest part of any of these tapes would be just watching a super powerful person talking to a 17 year old girl for three hours and not even doing anything physical.

[Annie Letterman]

That's the footage they're trying to cover up.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's what I'm saying. They're like, footage. There's no footage of them sleeping together. Is there footage of them hanging out at all? How come no one cares about the Jared accusers because he dresses a cat? If you're weird enough, people are like, oh, he's just forward thinking. Like, people are just like, he dresses a cat to the Met Ball and now he gets to be creepy with girls. I don't know. I don't know if I'm allowed to laugh at that. I'll just put my labuba in front of me. Trump called the President of Japan Mr. Japan. I know. I think it's important though that we just enjoy those moments. Okay? And I can't go into uncontrollable fit of laughter right now. So let's get into a new segment. I have a new segment. We have a new segment. Introducing a new segment today. It is called I'm watching you. It Feels like most episodes I bring up someone who seems to be hiding in plain sight, overcompensating, trying too hard to make us think a certain thing about them, and it's fishy. And I just. I want to give people a heads up from now on, you know what I mean? To let them know, like, I am watching you. I'm not gonna, like, just go ham on you as soon as. I'm just gonna give you a heads up now in case you wanna change your behavior if you're on my radar. Yeah, I. I forgot to take a Prozac yesterday. Like, if I forgot one more time, you know what I mean? We're gonna have a. Like, I'm. That's it. That's it. One missed Synthroid and I will be doing an IG live about you. I think it's good to know what you're good at, what your strengths are, what your weaknesses are. I have a lot of weaknesses. Just, you're fine. Fine Knowing someone's a bad person before everyone else. Not a weakness of mine. I'm pretty much always right. Diddy. I was on to Diddy. Okay. Would he keep changing names? Y' all were like, oh, cool, he's Puff Daddy now. I'm like, what? That's what you do when you break the law. A lot people would show up at my door and be like, where's Joe? I'd be like, my dad's Eric. And they'd be like, han. I'd be like, got it. Okay. Adult men can't give each other nicknames. You're not Robbie. You're Robber. You're not P. Diddy or Puff Daddy. You're a criminal. I'm not doing this. And your sweatsuit sucked. I'll say it. Here's who I'm not on to. 50 Cent. I am not on to you. Openly petty and a troll. I trust those people. People like trolls. And he's negative. I'm like, I'm good. She said this crazy thing. Good. I like her. I like an open. Like a upfront flaw. I don't trust people who work so hard to make us all think that they're good people or eccentric. Watch for them. Watch for people who dress like a cat at the Met Ball, okay? And then when some story comes out that they're creeps and have tunnels under their house and dated a 19 year old, they're like, they've known for a couple years. Like, oh, they're just artsy. They're so European and forward thinking. They see young girls as Equal. They're feminist. Can't stop it. He loves women. He dresses like a cat. That is a. That is a man who loves women. I'm on to you. Watch the openly self righteous people. When a man out of nowhere is like, I'm an ally. I'm like, huh? Watching you. You don't have to say it. It's like when someone's like, I'm not crazy. It's like, people who aren't crazy don't open with that. Can I be honest? What were you before like? Be careful with this, all right? When someone's like, I'm an anti racist, I'm like, can I see your Halloween costume from 2004, please? If you're. Why did you tweet that you're an anti. Why is it in your bio? I don't know. I'd like to see the blackface photo. It's. I don't. I'm gonna start Googling you now. Like, what, A famous white woman out of nowhere wants to announce her journey, struggling with Lyme disease? I'm watching you. How many assistants just got together to sue you because you were throwing around racial slurs in the office? How many screen grabs are going back and forth? Are we supposed to feel sorry for you and your Lyme dizzy? Well, I was in my place in the Hamptons and got bit by a tick. I would like you to know this week, here's who I am watching. People who make reaction videos to problematic content. I'm watching you. If you're gonna show a video and talk about how problematic it is, you're still watching it, and you're giving people the opportunity to watch it and be weirdos. But then everyone gets to feel like they're doing the right thing. I'm watching you. Like, whoever figured out child acting? Well, what if the kids are in on it and we disguise it as a high school drama? I'm watching. If you need to make a Sabrina Carpenter reaction video about how you watched her video and it's super smutty and nobody should watch it. And here's the still frame of her bending over and this is bad. I'm watching you. Okay? I don't. You don't get to watch it and be like, look at this smut. This is all smut. This should not exist. I am only watching it to show you how bad it is for people to watch. Okay? What an icarly documentary is this. When the icarly documentary was like, look how bad they exploited Ariana Grande at such a young age. By having her suck on a zucchini. Or. Here's the footage since it's been taken down everywhere. Here it is. Okay. We downloaded it the second it aired because we knew in 10 years we'd make a doc about it. We just. In case they took it down, we have it in our hard drive. Why do you have it? I watched that footage over and over, and I was just disgusted. How could they get away with doing that? And now you can watch it. The producer of that documentary were like, look, we watched the footage of Ariana Grande sucking on a banana or whatever over. And we're disgusted by how they could get away with doing that. So now you can watch it under the. Like, guys that were raising awareness. You're raising dicks is what you're raising. First of all, when the creep who made the show gets castigated, great. Rightly so. But then when the documentary shows the exact same scene, they win an award for being heroes. Guys, let's. We're getting a little sloppy. I'm watching the people who can twist reality sharply into doing something disgusting and find a way to pretend they're doing something good. Like the mental gymnastics of that icarly documented. They'd be like, look, we know they exploited kids and the kids finally moved on, but we're going to rehash all this publicly because it gives them exposure therapy. They relive it, they heal it. They get 200 texts a day about it, and this is how they're gonna heal. Like, what do you tell yourself? I know someone who was asked to be in that documentary who was on one of those sets. And the team reached out to her and said, you should be in this documentary to talk about how traumatic it was for you. And she was like, no, I'm good. I, you know, I would have moved, like, you know, and they said, oh, well, it's fine if you don't want to help other people. Help who? She's the victim. You mean help you make money off child abuse. I'm watching you. All the emailing the victims, pressuring them to be in the icarly documentary that they don't want to be in. All the money you raise, you could have been hiring kidnappers off HN to get Amanda Bynes. Same with Brittany. Why can't someone just go get these girls? You know what? Hear me out. Hear me out. Could we get Diddy to get them just because he seems to be able to get people on planes?

[Annie Letterman]

You could form a pop band.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm just saying now that he's out and is so good at moving people around so quickly and quietly. Can he get Amanda Bynes out of wherever she is? Someone's got to get her, you know, like, remember after my mom died, I had a manic episode and I was literally, I was literally just talking too much and too fast. Like, even for me. My friends were like, she's talking really fast. I had not slept truly in weeks. I had gone off birth control, cold turkey wild. I hadn't cried after both my parents died. And I was just like full liver king trying to fight Rogan. Like, I was full liver king just trying to fight off my demons. Like, and just like, I was wearing like sequin belly tops. Like, I was just mass texting everybody I knew to help clean up the water in west virginia at like 2:00am Still a good idea. Still a good idea. When I go crazy, I sometimes go sane. But the point is, I was just embarrassing myself. I was just like, you know, should have been posting online, whatever. Annie Letterman and Tim Dillon, my two chosen, you know, family, they showed up at my house, you know, to just be like, hey, come sit down. You know, this for sure could have been a zoom or like a phone call, but whatever. It was very dramatic. But they told me, like, oh, you need to kind of get it together. You know, we're like, we're worried about you. And having those two people look at me, worried about me, that's the wake up call I needed. I believe at the time. Annie had her abs sprayed on like, and had a literal snake around her neck at the time. And you're worried about me, like, so I truly have Brittany from the Toxic video, like, actually. And Tim Dillon, who lives in five star hotels only and has a brand new Bentley every week. The last one was Maroon. I'm not kidding. Who, by the way, he wears sunglasses inside. I still don't know if it's a joke or not. I don't. I. I'm. They're looking at me concerned. I have Annie Letterman, her snake, and Tucker Ritz Carlton in my house telling me to pull it together. And let me tell you something, it worked. Okay, have. I've been brushing my hair. It's not purple. I'm sober like that. I stopped any cannabis products. I was. I never looked back. Okay, I know it makes most people cool to like, smoke weed. It doesn't make me cool. I start to figure out what dinosaur bones are fake in museums. It's just really not like, I just do believe we should know. But the point is, I believe that if Tim Dillon and Annie Letterman do not go get Amanda Bynes or they should go to jail. They were so effective by showing up at my house and just showing concern. My. I changed my whole life. I changed my whole life. I think it should be a crime punishable by law that they don't just do that. Only we should send it for Bieber. Dude, they would handle Bieber in a second. Oh, guys, summer closet refresh. I mean, the first thing I do when I clean up my closet is get all of my ex boyfriends out of there because they are still in the closet. Somehow get out of there. Come on. Being straight is so 2016. Now. The other thing I do every summer I gotta like upgrade. Like there's some. Something happened. I'm in a new era. I'm in a new era. I'm not wearing shirts from gas stations anymore. I have officially picked a gender. You guys. I'm in my. I'm officially a woman for now. But at least like for a while era. I had a child. I am like weirdly muscular because all I do is pick up. Do I pick him up a normal amount? Like should I be touching him this much? I just don't feel like I should be this in shape. The point is, instead of panic buying another fast fashion fail, I upgraded with quints. You know, I love quints. It makes luxury basics that actually last and cost half of what you would expect. It's like 100% European linen, for example, tops $30 hot washable silk shirts and dresses. Soft cotton sweaters you can wear all summer long for barely a hawk to a coin. I love the linen wide leg pants. I'm in my Katharine Hepburn era. Just deal with that. Guys, we're going boating. Quince cuts out the minim by working directly with top factories. You're gonna get quality without the markup. Plus they only partner with factories that are safe, ethical manufacturing practices. Go to quince.com Whitney quince.com Whitney. Enjoy.

[Annie Letterman]

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[Whitney Cummings]

You just said it. Why would I say it?

[Annie Letterman]

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[Whitney Cummings]

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[Annie Letterman]

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[Whitney Cummings]

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[Annie Letterman]

I don't leave my home at any given time. You have a doordash on the way.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like at any given time. I keep thinking I'm gonna like meet my soulmate or something. There's like how, like. The point is I don't leave my home. I just can't. It's too scary out there. It has to come to me. And you know me and my ocd. I'm never not redecorating a room in my home because I believe it's the only thing I can control at this point. It makes me feel calm. It makes me feel sane. I just, I might need to repaint at 2am I just might need.

[Annie Letterman]

You might need somebody to refill the bear traps you keep outside on the property.

[Whitney Cummings]

I might need a bandage for when I stepped in my own bear trap. You know, I'm saying I need random stuff. I need a watermelon and a pint of oat milk. You don't know what's going on with the TikTok challenges that I'm way too old to be doing but refuse to not do. Okay, Doordash brings it to you. You're going to save big during the summer of Dash Pass sign up today. Dash Pass benefits apply only to eligible orders. Terms apply. Go to doordash. Do I have a code for them or something?

[Annie Letterman]

No, just.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, we're just. There's no code even.

[Annie Letterman]

Go use it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, go use doordash. Like honestly use doordash. The guys are cute. Speaking of trafficking, I have brought my gorgeous 22 year old cousin onto the show. You know, every time we point fingers at others, we point scared herself. So the call's coming from inside the house. Grace just graduated from Alabama. Grace, I gotta be honest with you, you scare me.

[Grace Cummings]

Why?

[Whitney Cummings]

Here's the thing. I'm not always right. But I'm good at arguing and getting the other person just give up. We come from lawyers. Her dad's an amazing lawyer. My dad was a lawyer. Like we just come from like you fight to the death.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. In our family.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, I would say so.

[Whitney Cummings]

You, you have that too. And you don't let anything slide.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

You're going to argue that.

[Grace Cummings]

No, no, no.

[Whitney Cummings]

Nothing slides. Even the thing about things sliding.

[Grace Cummings]

No, I agree. But I think like things. We let things slide before.

[Whitney Cummings]

I know no one's going to believe we're related given she thinks before she speaks. Like I swear she is my real cousin.

[Grace Cummings]

But there's other traits that are similar.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like what?

[Grace Cummings]

Like we both have like the same like hands. Like they're like kind of weird looking.

[Whitney Cummings]

That was the meanest thing you've ever said about yourself. Don't roast yourself. Don't do that.

[Grace Cummings]

No, they're just, we both have like, they like. I don't know.

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, we have hyper. We're hypermobile.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

We have trash DNA. You know this, right? We are, we are like, well, I.

[Grace Cummings]

Think I got good DNA from the other side.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay. We're wild.

[Grace Cummings]

No, we do have trash DNA.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, but I mean, we're all like bone. Our joints are hyper mobile. I, at 28 years old, was prescribed by a rheumatologist to go to a Pilates instructor to learn how to walk. Because I walk with my knees and my hips and not my butt muscles and whatever. Like, I was just, I was like, I have to go to learn how to walk. And I went to like a Pilates and she was like, I was like, I, I'm too, I'm too bored. I'd rather just snap my knee sneezing or whatever. She was like, you're gonna break something over a non collision injury one day. You're gonna sneeze and you're just gonna throw out your back. And I was like, that sounds hilarious.

[Grace Cummings]

Did you ever do it?

[Whitney Cummings]

I went to one session halfway through, I was like, I have to leave. I was so bored. I was like, I'm so sorry, I'll pay you for the session, but this is just too boring. I also like, I. I'm not going to relearn how to walk. This is. This ship sailed. Like, that's not. I'm not. There's so many things, like, on the list of things I need to improve about myself. This doesn't break the top. The walking is 200.

[Grace Cummings]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, so we were driving by something in Venice once and we were just kind of like driving around and I, I definitely have like Tourette's about, like, that's this and that's this. And I lived here and that's where I used to get my frozen yogurt. Like, I think everyone wants to know my, like, tour of la. It's like so boring.

[Grace Cummings]

I've gotten the same tour like four times.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, yeah. And I'm like, and that's this. And then we drove past a high school and I was like, oh, that's where Britney Spears shot the Hit Me Baby One More Time video. I believe that was true. And you said something that was like, yeah, but weren't the wall like. You said something that made me go like, oh, no. We were talking about love Island. And here's what I'll say. Love island has taken over our brains. And I was gonna talk about the fact that I believe the demo. Who watches Love island is so fascinating to me. The fact that you watch it is changing my perception of it. Because you're cool. You must know something.

[Grace Cummings]

Well, the fact that you don't watch it is weird to me.

[Whitney Cummings]

I watch it on Tick Tock in parts. I get, like, sick to my stomach. I feel bad for these people. The people that I know that watch Love island, they're like, did you read the New York Times article about that? And did you read Atlantic? And you watch thing? Oh, my God. Did you watch Love Island? I'm like, I don't get it. Do you? Why do you get a pass to watch things ironically? Like, you're already acting like you're better than everybody else, and now you're trashing these people that you already know in your head. Then you're better than. Like, I don't see myself as better than them. So I can watch it. But you wait. You're also. You watch it for real. It's not a joke. And you don't get to watch things ironically and then be above it. That's like me going to the Ren fair. I went four times in a row as a joke. It's not a joke. The fourth time I was there, I was like, I go. I go now. I'm not going to keep saying it's a joke. I go, now I'm a rent. I'm a wench. That's it. I'm coming out as a wench. All right. I'm not going to make a joke about it. I'm not. Like, this is so dumb. Like, it's not dumb. I love it. Okay, I'm coming out. I'm coming forward as someone who asked to be the queen of the ren faire, and they never DM me back.

[Grace Cummings]

Oh, gosh.

[Whitney Cummings]

And I will keep wearing braids until they say yes. Okay. The Ren fair left me on red. Now you know. So reality TV has become like, our kink as a society. Is this like the gladiator show? Is this our. Are these our emotional gladiators? Is this our schadenfreude festival? Is this how we all feel good about ourselves? Like, this is why so many people are so confident, entitled now, because they watch shows like this. And like, well, I must be nailing it.

[Grace Cummings]

All I know is I go to work just to go home later and watch love island at 8pm like, it's the only thing I think about all day. Yeah, it's really not that.

[Whitney Cummings]

So it's deep.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

So, okay, what happens when you watch what's happening in your mind? Are you laughing? Are you learning? Are you getting relationship advice? Are you studying all of the above? Because, you know, they say, like, women that watch shows about crime, subconsciously, you're studying, you're getting adrenaline, but studying because we're prey.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

What are we getting out of it on biological basis?

[Grace Cummings]

There you have time to, like, hook up with like, 20 guys in the span of a week. You can't do that.

[Whitney Cummings]

You're studying STDs, you're learning all about HPV and like. Like, what is it? Because it's also what's. I'm like, is this a sport? Is it like, hold on, did that cold sore clear up? I mean, there's a lot of cold sores on this show. It's whack a mole with their sores.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, it must be.

[Whitney Cummings]

I see. This is why I can't watch porn either. I'm like, is that a bruise? Is she okay? Like, I. I focus on the wrong things always. I'm like, you guys. You guys need to take a break and deal with the cold sore outbreak.

[Grace Cummings]

Well, they're very. I mean, they do everything.

[Whitney Cummings]

No more citrus.

[Grace Cummings]

They show everything.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. They. Yeah. I don't know what I'm allowed to say.

[Whitney Cummings]

So then you're allowed to say truly anything. They. Yeah, but here's the thing. Reality tv, I was thinking about. I was like, when did this even start? Because it was like, as soon as I was, like, old enough to be, like, watching tv, reality TV just came. We don't know what it's like to not have reality tv. And I was thinking about. I was like, what does it say about us as a society that we watch reality TV started in the 1990s. This is important. The biggest stars of the time, Tom Cruise, Julia Roberts, Demi Moore, Robin Williams, Bruce Willis. And people were like, bah, Ma. They're doing all this memorizing and flying out of buildings and crying on cue. And then they make all these sets and they do these accents and they take me to England in the 1800s, like, and then I. They spend two years where her. It's a little needy. They're. Can I just see Tammy from IHOP fight with some random tattoo artists with Tourette's in a small apartment? I'm good on the art. Like, the fact that Julia Roberts, Oscar winning actress, really cool, cool. But where can I see an aspiring actress not succeed? Like, what is. Like, is this. What is it? I maybe it's like, this is our answer to people. People like this impossible ideal. I don't think people want the impossible ideal. That's like gay guys that work at Vogue. I don't know what's going on. We don't want to see attractive people in movies. We see them and we're like, ah. Can we see some real people with acne scars who fight like dogs over limited resources? Can we see a C section scar, please? Like, enough with the. Enough with the movies about Batman. Who saves New York? Can we put a girl who's never been to New York in New York and follow her around with a camera all day and watch her get rabies? Like, that's. We're animals, dude. Robin Williams was putting prosthetics on every four hours, every morning to play an old lady to entertain you. Tom Cruise is driving a car over a giraffe in the Amazon. Demi Moore played GI Jane. She was going to the gym 12 hours a day. And that was just the Kegels. She's eating raw chicken. And we're like, ah, but what is that chin implant rep from Toledo up to? I wonder how she'd fare in an emotional warfare against someone with aids. Put her in the ring with Pedro. If you guys don't remember that reality tv, I feel like it's women's version of Guys Game. Like, who would win in a fight? It's like, who win a fight between a wolf and a bear? And they'll talk about that for like 45 minutes. Yeah, remember that. Like, it's our. Who would win a gorilla or 100 men? Kind of. That women are like, who would win the fight between a Hooters waitress from Raleigh Durham, and an aspiring musician with a tongue ring from Portland? And they were like, we got to watch it after the Real World. Like, we kept going. We were like, okay, now I'm desensitized to this. Now we gotta go. We gotta go harder. We don't want these people who need the money. We want. We want women to be, like, rich. We're sick of watching the Hunger Games of people who need money, who have never been to New York to fight over a twin bed. I want to see someone who's doing it for the love of the game. I want to watch people self destruct. It turned into, I want to watch reality. I want to watch people who don't need the money. They need the hate. They need the shame. And that wasn't even enough. It got boring. We got boring. You know why? We could see their facial expressions. Spoiler alert. It was tipping it. People having facial expressions was the ultimate first sport. Real Housewives. Everyone has Botox. It's genius. Because women are fighting women. Fighting with Botox is like men using steroids in sports. It is definitely because. I don't know. I don't know. How do you know if someone's being genuine? How do you know this fight's gonna go on forever? You have no idea what you're. You don't know what your enemy is capable. You don't know what they're think. All the tactics you learn growing up with an emotional unstable mot are. Are useless. You're fighting an okapi. Was that a real animal or a fake? Real animal. Remember okapis? That was like in my, like, book as a kid. It was like a mix between a.

[Grace Cummings]

I've never even heard a lot in my life.

[Whitney Cummings]

Please look up okapi. And everything I learned in school. I'm. Now I'm like. As I said, I'm like, was that fake? And okapi?

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, yeah, it's like a half zebra, half kangaroo looking thing.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. Oh, copy. I. I'm haunted by the okapi. Where did you get that? Who bred it?

[Grace Cummings]

I don't. I don't know what books you're reading. It's not the ones I was.

[Whitney Cummings]

Look, how did we get here? How do we get to Love Island? We went Real Housewives and then Love is Blind. But that. How do we get here? Dating shows. How did this, like Big Brother? Is it like MMA for women? Are you watching the fights? Are you watching the.

[Grace Cummings]

What for Love Island?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Grace Cummings]

Like, what do you. Well, for everything. For the drama, you know, for the couples.

[Whitney Cummings]

Do you watch scripted drama? Like, no inch. There we go.

[Grace Cummings]

Because then it seems so fake. Love island, it's. And I know they, like produce it, so it's like, you know, they edit it, but it's like you. You would never tell. Well, you can't tell.

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, also, it's real. With it, they can only show so much. It's still real.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, you know, emotions and like, at the time, you know, what's their feeling?

[Whitney Cummings]

Authentic drama.

[Grace Cummings]

And it feels authentic.

[Whitney Cummings]

People are done with verisimilitude.

[Grace Cummings]

And I think people like, like, resonate with specific people on Love Island. Like, I'm very ride or die for like two specific people. Yeah, My girl Iris. Yeah, she's in a couple with this really hot guy named Pepe.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm just realizing why I can't enjoy. Because we were talking about earlier and you were like, yeah, one of the girls said a racist slur against Asians. Like, how could the producer have not caught that? And I'm like, no, that's exactly why the producers hired her. What are you talking about?

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, well, there's been two scandals. This, this, this season.

[Whitney Cummings]

I mean, the person who's going to sign up to date on a reality show with and not see their children for a year, these are the people that. You know what I'm saying? These are not people that, like, make great choices. I think those are the people that they're casting.

[Grace Cummings]

That's true.

[Whitney Cummings]

So I have not seen this. Apollo. I'm obsessed with apologies. You know this about me because the apology will decide if the person is innocent or not. I have been like, oh, they didn't do anything wrong. And then they apologize. And I'm like, you. I would like to look at your hard drive, sir.

[Grace Cummings]

Have you seen it yet?

[Whitney Cummings]

No, I was gonna watch it. Okay, so tell me the context of this.

[Grace Cummings]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

She put.

[Grace Cummings]

Had a picture out there, and it was like, talking about how her eyes kind of look. Then she said a slur.

[Whitney Cummings]

Do they, though?

[Grace Cummings]

I don't know. I mean, she did just, like, normal eyes. She was talking about Botox. Wait, I have it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, she was, like, trying to be funny.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. And it.

[Whitney Cummings]

I can look it up.

[Grace Cummings]

It just, like, was not funny. Like, it was very.

[Whitney Cummings]

She also, like, she's saying, like, I look Asian, basically.

[Grace Cummings]

Yes. Yeah. And it. It. So she didn't even just, like, say a slur. She said it in a way that was like.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's also not very true.

[Grace Cummings]

Yes.

[Whitney Cummings]

And it's like. Oh, you just wanted to say that.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

It wasn't even a good, like, joke.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, it was like she was trying to make a joke, but it just, like, didn't.

[Whitney Cummings]

Guys, comedy's hard. I know. Everyone thinks it's so easy. It's actually pretty hard. So I would like to watch this apology because I do believe I. I say it every couple episodes. All of you are going to be famous, even if you don't want to be. Hashtag hawk to it. You're going to throw up at the bar. Someone's gonna be feeling. Everyone's gonna. Everyone is gonna have to make a public apology at some point in their future. Grace, you especially and every.

[Grace Cummings]

I don't know if I should be offended.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, I just mean you're gonna get famous somehow. Like, you're just A star, in my opinion. Whether it's gonna be like you're gonna be.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. I'm surprised it was you out of the two of us. Choose me, really, for being honest, you.

[Whitney Cummings]

I had like a 20 year heads up.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, you had a head start.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. But even as a kid, I was like, she's a star.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what I mean?

[Grace Cummings]

It just. I exude star.

[Whitney Cummings]

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[Grace Cummings]

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[Whitney Cummings]

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[Grace Cummings]

Her apology video.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, the first one.

[Grace Cummings]

Oh. Oh, yeah. Don't do that. So.

[Whitney Cummings]

So I am going to watch Sierra from Love Island's apology for saying a racial slur about herself. And I'm already so uncomfortable. Why is she wearing a shirt that says empathy?

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, that's. I was gonna preface by that. And also, she was already getting hate because she was, like, giving mean girl on the show. So you need to catch up.

[Whitney Cummings]

I do need to catch up, but isn't the point to come and be a mean girl.

[Grace Cummings]

No.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Grace Cummings]

You're supposed to be nice.

[Whitney Cummings]

But here's the other thing I am on. I'm watching you. Some mean girls come off like girls, girls, and some girls, girls come off like mean girls. You know when someone's like, how are you? How are you doing? I'm like, yeah, this is fake nice. Which is mean. If she was just, like, direct.

[Grace Cummings]

She's giving kind of like fake nice.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, I don't like that.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Just be nice. And I think people.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Or just be whatever you are. Don't pretend to be something else because I have to go along with this.

[Grace Cummings]

Like, people clocked it for sure.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. So it was. Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Tim Dillon]

Recently. And now that I've been back in.

[Whitney Cummings]

The first of all, when someone puts on giant hoop earrings for a. Like, she's just like, I'm about to do my apology video. Like, the lip light. Like, the face is just beat. Like, okay. She's sitting in front of her bed. There's an eight ball behind her. You gotta look at the foreground. I have no idea.

[Grace Cummings]

But you see the empathy.

[Whitney Cummings]

She has a pillow. That is an eight ball. I've never seen someone have it. I have a shopping addiction. I've never seen it on any website. I've never seen on any flea market. No one has weirder pillows than me. Who has an eight ball pillow? Only someone who would eight ball their life. Like, do you know what I'm saying? Think about the type of person who has an eight ball. What does the eight ball do, Pat? It's like the.

[Annie Letterman]

It's a common distribution size of cocaine.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, I didn't even think of that. First of all, it's called. Second, what does it mean in sports, in pool?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, that's. That's the ball at the end of the game. The winning.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, but I'm saying that if you put that in, it's, It's. It cancels the game.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, that's how you win.

[Whitney Cummings]

But I'm just. Or lose.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Think about, you're good, you know, nightclub.

[Annie Letterman]

And you see somebody wearing a jacket with an eight ball on it, that's your guy.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's just a weird thing to be attracted to. It's a weird thing to be attracted to and have on your bed.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, I agree.

[Whitney Cummings]

Eight ball. Because eight ball is the ball that's like the bad. Don't touch it. Right. Or. Oh, I didn't even think of it. You know what I'm saying?

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Who would? If I was like, gosh, what do.

[Annie Letterman]

You gain from associating yourself with an 8?

[Grace Cummings]

With an 8? Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Who would go, I gotta buy that pillow.

[Annie Letterman]

I trust that lady.

[Whitney Cummings]

Or whether I gotta make that pillow. I've never seen it for sale. I don't. Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

This lady's not lying to me. She has an eight ball pillow.

[Whitney Cummings]

This is someone who likes to end things fast. Her career especially. You know, like, it's just the things you surround yourself with, the things you. It says so much to me. Like what? Okay. And she's also wearing a jade pendant, a. It seems like a Asian trinket around her neck to show that she's not racist. Or she's appropriating in her apology for being right.

[Annie Letterman]

She's approaching something.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay, let's go. She's very cute. She's very pretty.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, she is.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm back in the US for about 48 hours and I've had the chance to process. I now feel like I'm at a space where I can speak about this without being highly emotional because I am not the victim in this situation. While I was in the villa, there were some posts that resurfaced from my past where I was very naively using an incredibly offensive and derogatory term. And before I get into the details, I want to first start by addressing not just anyone that I have hurt or deeply offended.

[Whitney Cummings]

She's gonna be okay.

[Tim Dillon]

But most.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm not kidding. She's just. She's. She's gonna be fine. Like, she's offended.

[Tim Dillon]

But most.

[Whitney Cummings]

She's just saying it.

[Tim Dillon]

The entire community. I am deeply, truly, honestly so sorry.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay.

[Tim Dillon]

I had no idea that the word held as much pain.

[Whitney Cummings]

She knew you could have cut that. Now you. That's.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

You were so close. You were so close.

[Grace Cummings]

It just seems like you knew at the time.

[Whitney Cummings]

I. And I. That's why I said it. You gotta own it completely. This is like when Michael Richards went on Letterman after saying the worst words word you can say and then went to apologize and went. I would like to sincerely apologize to all the Afro Americans. And it was like, how you can't you. Oh, no.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. It's giving the same thing.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, before we could have been like, he's mentally ill. He's crazy. Now we know. Like, okay, wait. Sorry.

[Tim Dillon]

As much harm and came with the history that it did, or I never would have used it. I had. Had no ill intention when I was using it. But that's absolutely no excuse because intent doesn't excuse ignorance. It just doesn't. And I just need you to know that I am so sorry. But this is not an apology video. This is an accountability video. I do want to hold my hands up and say that I. I wish.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, things like that didn't work, but they do. It's a good catchphrase. It's not an apology video because I'm not sorry. It's an accountability video.

[Grace Cummings]

But that's what I thought when she said that. I was like, well, you're not sorry.

[Whitney Cummings]

But it sounds good. It just sounds good.

[Grace Cummings]

But it sounds like it was like she looked it up on chat GPT.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, of course. This is a. This is. This is not a human saying. This is a fully chat GBT version.

[Grace Cummings]

Of this PR team worked overtime on this one.

[Whitney Cummings]

Who. What PR team is like, ah, this girl just had a racial sort. I. This is. Yeah, I want to sign it in.

[Grace Cummings]

An Empathy sweatshirt and.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, yeah, no, this is. She had, like, a task rabbit come by and she said, can you help me?

[Tim Dillon]

I genuinely had no idea that it was a slur. I had no idea.

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, just. You should have stopped. You were.

[Grace Cummings]

Ah, but she said it multiple times, too. Like, that was like, people caught her on it.

[Whitney Cummings]

You said it. You had no idea it was a slur. Then why did you like.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. And this could be fake news.

[Whitney Cummings]

Then why did you say Asian person?

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Why wasn't anybody else saying it?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, and it wasn't until then. Why did you laugh after I made the public story?

[Whitney Cummings]

Also, she has the biggest eyeballs I've ever said is her. The thing. My eyes are small.

[Grace Cummings]

She was talking about getting Botox when she said it. So I don't know how that 2024.

[Tim Dillon]

When a follower of mine reached out to correct me and let me know that what I was saying was incredibly hurtful. It was a derogatory term. It was a slur. And in that moment, I was embarrassed. I, of course, immediately deleted the post. I. I was apologetic, and I educated not only myself on the true meaning.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay, yeah, she'll be, like, a villain. She'll be, like, on reality TV and always be the villain. And then her book is gonna be called Chink in My Armor. Like, she's gonna have to lean hard into it. Her next trip is gonna be to Tokyo. I love the cult. Like, she's gonna be, like, making egg rolls. She's gonna be like a cooking book where she, like, makes kimchi in the yard. And she's gonna just go hard. She has to.

[Tim Dillon]

But also, anyone around me, this slur when this.

[Grace Cummings]

That was a weird way to Phrase that.

[Whitney Cummings]

Can I tell you something? I'm going to say it. Hey, women. Shut up. Say less. You said it. It was working. No, when to shut up. I feel like a man going, I feel like my boyfriend going, no, you said it already. And I'm like, no, I need to say it again a different way.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And he's like, but I got it. And I'm like, no, no, you're my alcoholic mom. I have to keep saying it and saying and saying it because I need the field trip thing signed. Just. You said it, you nailed it. She should have had like a 80 year old Saudi Arabian man do a pass on this. Say two sentences, you're out. Women don't need to. We don't need to talk so much. We don't.

[Annie Letterman]

He's like, we're gonna bring up some new charges.

[Whitney Cummings]

The longer you apologize, dance around an apology. The longer I'm like, hold on, hold on. Yeah, this should have been like, clear.

[Grace Cummings]

It's like, is it even an apology at that point?

[Whitney Cummings]

No. Like, you're just. Are you trying to get not.

[Grace Cummings]

It's an accountability video.

[Whitney Cummings]

Are you trying to hit 60 seconds so you can get monetized on TikTok? Because you know it has to be a certain amount of time or something in order to get. She's like, okay, 10 more seconds because it's gonna go viral. And I don't need to say the.

[Annie Letterman]

Words holding space yet.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

There's a checklist. Holding space accountable. Like all the buzzwords. I'm gonna. I bet reflect is coming up. I bet. Yeah, I bet. Like problematic internalized racism. I'm not racist. I have internalized racism. Like, no, no, immediately.

[Tim Dillon]

The word was immediately removed from my vocabulary.

[Whitney Cummings]

You don't get points for that, though. You don't. No, no, no, no.

[Grace Cummings]

Well, especially if she studied the sensitivity.

[Whitney Cummings]

But also, you don't have to say immediately either. Yeah, you know, I, I, I'm, yeah. Can I. I'm opening a business to write people's apologies.

[Grace Cummings]

I thought, I don't know if you're the best person to do that either. If we're being so. Comments.

[Whitney Cummings]

If I'm her, I'm going, yeah, I said a terrible word and I thought it was funny at the time because I was ignorant and I was naive and I was dumb and I shouldn't have said it and I'm never gonna say it again and I'm so sorry.

[Grace Cummings]

Cut. That's it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Cut. Yeah, that's it.

[Grace Cummings]

I agree.

[Whitney Cummings]

If I can speak that little. Okay, put your Hair in a bun. Get. Stop doing the beach waiver before your apology.

[Grace Cummings]

She put on a show for this one.

[Whitney Cummings]

Don't go to the costume. Don't be eating a Panda express in your apology video after saying something like. Like, don't wear an Empathy sweatshirt that was made in China by Chinese kids.

[Annie Letterman]

Don't bang a Kong at the end of it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, don't talk like you're talking to an Asian person that can't speak English. She's like, I am sorry. They can understand English. Yeah, you don't have to keep saying it. She's acting like she's, like, giving an Asian tourist directions.

[Tim Dillon]

And I think right now there are tons of things floating around, different screenshots with different timestamps and fueling this narrative that I sort of doubled down once people tried to correct me and was like, oh, like, I don't know. I'm still gonna use it. But I just. That was not the case. Like, the truth is that in that moment, the lesson was learned, the word was removed, and it was a true learning moment for me. And I think since that moment, what's.

[Whitney Cummings]

A true learning moment opposed to? I don't know.

[Grace Cummings]

The third time she got called out for it.

[Whitney Cummings]

She's just thrown in too many adjectives. It was immediately removed.

[Tim Dillon]

So much growing as an individual, and I've tried my best to. To educate others who might be accidentally. Space for these.

[Whitney Cummings]

What's with the eight ball pillow?

[Tim Dillon]

I completely agree with the network's decision to remove me from the villa. I think that this is something that deserved punishment, and the punishment has absolutely been received, for sure. I think the backlash has obviously been very.

[Whitney Cummings]

I wrote what's with the eight ball Billow?

[Tim Dillon]

Hard to deal with. But I understand that people are kind of confused on why.

[Whitney Cummings]

No one's confused. That's. I think you're confused. Are you? I'm not confused.

[Grace Cummings]

No. No one.

[Whitney Cummings]

I haven't even seen you do it in your apology. It's like what we said earlier in the show. You've done worse things than this is what I. I feel you are apologizing for things that are yet to come. Yeah, there's more.

[Grace Cummings]

There's stuff we haven't seen.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's it. Yeah, that's what it is. And she's probably. There's screenshots floating around. Like, there's more. Let me see the Halloween costume. Let's go. As someone that dresses a geisha for Halloween, I will say it every episode. When I years old, I will show the photo. Like, yeah, she's Remember when Akon did a song where he says, like, I'm sorry, and it's like, I'm sorry for all the things I've done and the things I'm gonna do and the mistakes I'm about to make. It was like his lawyer just gave him a statement of like, you gotta hit future. You gotta hit pass. I. I couldn't sue him. He did a song of me and Miranda, and I literally went to go do a cease and desist, and the lawyer was like, get in line. It was like, this song did not work. Sorry for stealing Miranda Cosgrove's face and head for my. My rap song. Yeah, she's even guiltier. Like, this is just like, guilty. There's too much apologizing.

[Grace Cummings]

Do you think this took more than one take for her to do, or do you think it was just like, one and done?

[Whitney Cummings]

It's more than I can take if that's your.

[Grace Cummings]

I mean, yeah, but, like, do you just sit there and record it and.

[Whitney Cummings]

You'Re like, I think her video is. Her photos is just the 500. I think there's different shirts. There were different necklaces. She seemed hangry in this video. She seems like she's continuing.

[Tim Dillon]

I understand where the hate is coming from. And, you know, I can do my best to drown out the noise and pay attention to the truth, but what's been extremely, extremely.

[Whitney Cummings]

The noise. People being offended by your slurs. Noise. I think you guys. In your noise. I'm just trying to be racist over here. Like, the noise. Like that racket. All this racket. I'm trying to. I'm trying to heal over here.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. She can't believe people are offended.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, oh, gosh, the noise.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, that's the noise.

[Whitney Cummings]

The noise. You guys are like, can you guys quiet down? It's just like. Like your reaction to my crazy, horrendous behavior is just like. It's like kind of giving me. I have misophonia.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, okay.

[Tim Dillon]

Is the way people are approaching my family and my loved ones.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, no, no, no. You don't get to do it. You don't get to go the death threats to my fam. No one cares about your family. No one's mad at your family. I didn't think about your family one time. Time.

[Grace Cummings]

I didn't either.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, stop. You're trying to go. Like, my family is being contacted. Don't bring them into this.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, they have had ICE called on them. My family doesn't feel safe in our own home. I'm receiving Death threats.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't think the ice calling had anything to do with the slur. That's. That's this. That's just what's going on in the news. I know you've been in a villa and where for Sandals for the past two and a half years. Drunk, getting, you know, Mouth. So.

[Grace Cummings]

No, no, they can't get drunk. I don't think because they limit their alcohol.

[Whitney Cummings]

They just.

[Grace Cummings]

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

They just give them Adderall and. Adderall and Viagra and Bleacher.

[Grace Cummings]

Exactly.

[Whitney Cummings]

And Carmax, Valtrex.

[Tim Dillon]

It's. There's no okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

I can't. Hey, Sierra Ortega. The only person that rambles unintelligently is me on this show. You don't get that? I can't let you ramble more than me and make absolutely no sense on a show. But, you know, May. Okay, I. I stand corrected. Love island is the public square, the town square to do public shamings, to show people what's not okay.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know how many teenagers are probably not going to say this exact. She's a hero. She's a martyr.

[Grace Cummings]

She's saved so many people, you know? Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

She's a martyr. And we do need to see consequences for bad behavior.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And if she signs up to be famous, like, that's what you become. You become.

[Grace Cummings]

Can anybody ever get, like, cancel. Cancelable enough to, like, actually work a job and, like, real world work? Like, like, do you think this will cancel her enough that she is, like, working 9 to 5?

[Whitney Cummings]

No.

[Grace Cummings]

You think she'll, like, bounce back?

[Whitney Cummings]

I think she's going to, but she has to lean in. She can't bounce. She has to stay. This is her lane now.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's like Sasha Schroeder. Like, she made it her thing. Like, I said something. I also think this is. Sorry, but it's like when the Vogue editor, this was a couple years ago, got fired because she tweeted some crazy stuff when she was a teenager. It's also like, okay, got you want to find someone who, in this era that hasn't done something stupid on the Internet? Like, I just happen to be the lucky person that did all the stupid stuff in person. Not if there was a camera there, I would have done it.

[Grace Cummings]

A lot of stupid stuff.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what I'm saying? Like, so I think that it's not about when, but about if you're gonna do something stupid or something dumb is going to be unearthed now. I'm doing the same thing as her. I'm like, guys, I'm sorry for all the things I've done, you guys. There's a lot of stuff floating around. I just want you to know this now. God, if I need to find that storage unit key. And so it's not about if you're gonna have to apologize or say something or. Course. Correct. Because it's also. We're promoting people and products and brands that are all. We're gonna find out. They're all criminals, like, in a couple years, you know, like, who knows? We don't know. We can't. You know, I'm sure I promoted a bunch of products that have killed at least five infants. I don't know. And I'm. Guys, sorry. I didn't know. I didn't know that. That, you know, charcoal dental floss was formaldehyde waste egg on my face. You know, it's like, we're gonna look back and be like, you know, I'm so sorry that I promoted my shows on Facebook and they took all your data and found your children and tattooed them. That's on me. I shouldn't have. Yet. Like, we. We have so many apologies we're gonna have to make because we just don't know enough, you know?

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, I sort of feel bad for her, but at the same time, I don't.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think, like, if she turns this into a. If she doesn't perish like some of the other Love island people. Yeah, this kind of. There's a book called so you've been publicly shamed. It's really, really pretty great. Because everyone's gonna get theirs at some point. It's just gonna happen.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm gonna fall on a ring camera. You're gonna fall on a surveillance video. It's gonna go viral. Like, it's just. Something funny is gonna happen. You're a person who drowned a car on a beach. If that had been caught on, I think you should also look for that.

[Grace Cummings]

But I have that footage.

[Whitney Cummings]

Give it. Actually, I post it on my account.

[Grace Cummings]

Please. Yeah, I have a bunch of that footage.

[Whitney Cummings]

But if you posted that, you would go viral, and now you're viral and somebody's like, who? This girl? Who's this girl?

[Grace Cummings]

It was. It was tragic.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's what. That's what makes us laugh.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah. And telling people I drove into, like, a large puddle that was like a lake is, like, not my best moment.

[Whitney Cummings]

So just say you're drunk. Guys, I'm sorry I drowned the car. It's just that I was drunk.

[Grace Cummings]

It was like 9am But I think.

[Whitney Cummings]

That, by the way, you know that works.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Mel Gibson. Robert Downey Jr. If you said, a drinking problem, I was alcoholic, we're like, oh, my God, you poor thing. You have to drink and anesthetize in order to get through how hard it is to be rich. Like, we feel. If you say, I did drinking, you will be forgiven. Always. Not women.

[Grace Cummings]

There's Mom, I had a drinking problem.

[Whitney Cummings]

There's something weird about this, though. Am I off? Robbie Hoffman agrees with me on this. But like, a couple other people don't. Like, when a guy says, like, I got sober. Like, you're like, ah, you're so strong. You're so honor. When a woman says, like, I got sober, like, why? Yeah, yeah, like, what did you do? Like, what did you do?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, party's over.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, like, what was your rock bottle? Like, how many people did you sleep with? Like, it's like. It's like. Doesn't sound as cool.

[Grace Cummings]

Yeah, no, I mean.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay. I'm going to have Grace, I think, host the show next week. I will be on hiatus, cleaning up some messes and writing some apologies. Now, not like that one. Now that I see that you can't say that on tv. I have some wiping of the Internet to do. We'll figure out we're gonna do next week. Grace, thank you for joining us.

[Grace Cummings]

You're welcome.

[Whitney Cummings]

And as always, don't ride elephants, you dumb, dumb. Love you mean it by Sam.