Question everything Even Whitney | Good For You Ep 332

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Question Everything—Even Whitney"

Good For You with Whitney Cummings, Ep 332
Date: March 3, 2026
Guest: Chris Kovacol
Host: Whitney Cummings
Theme: Lighthearted Q&A on life, fears, creativity, awkwardness, and nostalgia

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Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Whitney Cummings sits down with her fiancé Chris Kovacol for an unscripted speed round of questions, abandoning her usual focus on darker current events ("no Epstein today!") in favor of self-reflection, anecdotes, and playful banter. The episode is intentionally lighter, as Whitney and Chris dive into questions drawn from their own musings and listener feedback, allowing for revealing and comedic insights into Whitney’s fears, childhood, motherhood, embarrassing moments, and quirky habits.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

Breaking the Cycle: Light, Unfiltered Chat (02:00–04:00)

• Whitney comments on the need for a break from heavy topics (notably, Epstein), focusing instead on human Q&A.
• Setting a tone of “light and funny, just for today."

“I just feel that it should only be consumed in like, 60 second increments once a day instead of, like, a marathon of me talking about the trap door that goes to the ocean.”
—Whitney Cummings (01:49)

Q&A and Vulnerability: Fears, Habits, and Lessons (04:30–15:15)

• First Question: What are you scared of?
  • Whitney: "Eye contact and monogamy" (quick wit), but more seriously, deep ocean and intrusive thoughts (04:33, 04:59).
  • Discusses learning to make eye contact due to childhood trauma, working with a specialist to practice it (05:12–06:55).

"She did also teach me how to inhale and exhale because I couldn't do that either. I held my breath like I was hiding as a childhood trauma response."
—Whitney Cummings (05:23)

• If it were normal, I would...

  • Whitney: Would have raccoons and crows as pets and bring them everywhere (09:46).
  • Chris: Would sing in public more (09:51).

• Picturing Happiness:

  • Whitney describes a serene image with rescued horses and wild mustangs in Virginia (10:03).
  • Chris shares a similar image, referencing Whitney’s aunt’s backyard (10:26).

• Advice for the World:

  • Whitney: Jokingly says “No, thank you. Get a prenup.” (12:45)
  • Then reflects more sincerely on advice being overrated and the importance of pushing oneself (13:59).

"All of the loving advice I think is a sham… I think everyone should be a little harder on themselves, in fact."
—Whitney Cummings (13:59)

Embarrassment, Nostalgia & Childhood (15:27–30:33)

• Embarrassing Moments That Still Haunt:
  • Whitney and Chris revisit their awkward first kiss, bonked teeth and all (15:20–16:26).
  • Whitney recalls being poor and naïve in Hollywood, awkwardly asking celebrities like Sam Jackson about their finances, not realizing money talk is taboo (17:47–20:55).

"I didn't realize, like, asking someone about money is more taboo than sex. That's the most taboo thing you can ask people."
—Whitney Cummings (18:18)

• Nostalgic School Supplies & Fashion:
  • Discussing favorite Trapper Keeper designs—Lisa Frank dolphins, cowgirls, binders with psychedelic patterns (11:14–12:31).
  • Waxing poetic about the pain and nostalgia of OG Jellies and platform flip flops, Keds, and high school footwear woes (23:24–25:38).

Deep Reflection: Parenting & Childhood Reframed (25:45–30:33)

• Motherhood Changing Perspective:
  • Whitney shares how becoming a mom reframes her understanding of her own (often chaotic) childhood. She expresses gratitude for the resilience and independence forged through adversity and a horse-obsessed, Barbie-lite upbringing (27:24–30:19).

"I'm glad I was a little neglected because I became very self-generating and self-reliant... I don't have any problems that result from an inability to be alone, and I'm grateful for that."
—Whitney Cummings (28:48)

• Toy Nostalgia:
  • Grateful for horse toys over Barbies; proud of son Henry’s obsession with trains (29:54–30:19).

Stand-Out Fan Moments & Quirks (30:39–34:59)

• Memorable fan story: Whitney befriends a fan at a Chicago sushi spot, learning the ins and outs of buried city pipes (31:36–33:31).
• Admits to quirky, nurturing behaviors—feeding crows on the roadside, hiding gifts, and Santa Claus aspirations (21:10–22:28).

Self-Reflection and Offbeat Dreams (34:38–37:48)

• Openly apologizes to her 20-year-old self for poor diet, naïveté, and career choices, delivered in self-deprecating humor (33:47–34:59).
• Dream job, if not in the spotlight: "Naming lipstick and nail polish colors" (35:02).

Comic Riffs on Dropbox & Tech Frustrations (35:22–37:48)

• Whitney vents about her irrational rage against Dropbox and modern tech’s time-wasting (35:22–37:35).

"It's like when you wait in line to go to a club you don't even want to go to, and the bouncer's like, hold on. I'm like, I don't want to be here."
—Whitney Cummings (36:49)

Closing Questions: Mortality, Balance, and Rollerblading Disasters (37:54–42:23)

• When did you last fear for your life?

  • Whitney: Childbirth, and the one time she tried skateboarding—both near-death in their own ways (38:30–39:28).
  • Riffs on being “this way/that way” people when it comes to physical activities (39:28–40:13).

• Rollerblading Woes:

  • Story of a massive rollerblade wipeout, glued jeans, and denim scabs, closes the Q&A with laughter and love (41:17–42:23).

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Notable Quotes

• "Eye contact and monogamy."
  —Whitney Cummings on what scares her (04:34)

• "I think anyone who's just like, I'm gonna go out into the ocean. I'm just like, cave diving, like, stuff like that. I'm, like, even watching it."
  —Whitney Cummings (07:29)

• "My dream is to be Santa Claus... I just want to be Santa Claus."
  —Whitney Cummings (21:29)

• "I think people know that that's kind of like, yeah, you work at Jiffy Lube. But like, this was like, I was on MTV, you know, and like on Punk’d, you know, so. Yeah. And broke."
  —Whitney Cummings on “famous and broke” (17:47)

• "I'm grateful for whatever they exposed me to in terms of the toys I had. I never thought about that until having Henry."
  —Whitney Cummings (30:01)

• "Naming lipstick and nail polish colors. Easy, sick easy."
  —Whitney Cummings on her dream non-famous job (35:02)

• "It's a social media post that I have to approve... I don't even like that I'm not, you know what I mean, to wait. And then it'd be me being like, hey guys. I'm just like, oh, God."
  —Whitney Cummings on her aversion to Dropbox delays (37:15)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Light & Funny Episode Direction: 02:00–04:00
• Eye Contact & Fears: 04:33–06:00
• Making Eye Contact—Specialist Experience: 05:12–06:55
• If It Were Normal... (Pet Raccoons & Crows): 09:10–09:46
• Picturing Happiness: 09:56–10:26
• Loving Advice (or Not): 12:43–13:59
• Embarrassing Moments (First Kiss): 15:27–16:26
• Hollywood Finance Taboo: 17:47–20:55
• Nostalgic School Supplies: 11:14–12:31
• Motherhood Reflections: 27:24–30:19
• Wholesome Fan Story (Pipes Guy): 30:39–33:31
• Santa Claus Aspirations & Acts of Kindness: 21:10–22:28
• Apology to Younger Self: 33:47–34:59
• Dream Non-Famous Job: 35:02
• Dropbox Frustrations: 35:22–37:35
• Last Time Afraid For Life (Skateboard/Childbirth): 38:30–39:28
• Rollerblading Disaster: 41:17–42:23

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

The episode is witty, warm, and revealing, balancing playful teasing with unexpected depth. Whitney’s self-effacing candor, Chris’s easy rapport, and the absence of heavy topics make for a refreshing, relatable listen, layered with memories, lessons, and real relationship chemistry. Whitney’s humor shines in her honest answers—a testament to why fans keep coming back, no matter the topic.

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Transcript

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm going to be coming to a city near you doing the hahas and the yuck yucks. Chris is going to come to some of them because I'm like, there's a skate park in Des Moines.

[Chris Kovacol]

And I'm like, I love the biggest

[Whitney Cummings]

skate park in the world. It's in the country. Is in Des Moines. I'll be in Des Moines, Iowa. I'm coming to Philly on April 3rd. Philadelphia, where he's from, as you can tell by his personality and general vibe and shoulders.

[Chris Kovacol]

So proud of that.

[Whitney Cummings]

And I'm going to be in Omaha, Nebraska. I'm going to be in all of the places. Alabama. Look it up. Whitney Cummings dot com. St. Louis. I know a lot of these off the top of my herd.

[Chris Kovacol]

Look at that.

[Whitney Cummings]

Welcome to the show. I'm wearing a bodysuit that's not snapped because I refuse to snap it. Is this a vibe? This is just. This is just how we're doing it today. I don't know what to tell you.

[Chris Kovacol]

Shirt.

[Whitney Cummings]

Look. I just look like a. Like a twee fencer, hipster fencer playing flag football. That is so upsetting. I just can't do it today. Welcome to the program, everybody. Today we have. Ow. Go.

[Chris Kovacol]

Nobody told you about all the ooies and all the boo boos?

[Whitney Cummings]

Ah. Dude, this chair is collusion. This is a saboteur of a chair. I am here with a legend, a brilliant athlete, a physical Adonis, and God. Pat Fogarty, welcome to the program. We also have my fiance, Chris Kovacol, who is here today because. Pat, I've been a little stuck creatively, haven't I?

[Chris Kovacol]

No. Oh.

[Whitney Cummings]

Never disagree with me.

[Chris Kovacol]

I don't think so.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay. I just. I think that the Epstein stuff is so all consuming, and I'm trying to do an episode that is not about Jeffrey Epstein and the new files that are. Don't worry. Check my TikTok. I'm not tapping out, all right? I just feel that it should only be consumed in like 60 second increments once a day instead of like a marathon of me talking about the trap door that goes to the ocean. So I have Chris Cole on the podcast today, and we're gonna do like a speed round of questions from the Internet. Just pause and be human beings. This episode, don't you think should. You know, Chris? I think now that we're engaged, we should get to know each other.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right. And. And by the Internet, you mean the questions that I thought up while sitting over there?

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, you know what? I. My plan was to get Questions from like, Instagram and stuff. But sometimes when I do that, people like, oh, so we're writing your show for you. It's like, yes, yes, yes, I am. So you're going to ask them questions,

[Chris Kovacol]

but I can ask. But I had them in mind. I was like, what would people want to know? Yeah, I listened to this show. I like this show. Oh, this is actually kind of a catch 22 for me because I'm not gonna have this show to listen to because I was on it. So I'm gonna know it, babe.

[Whitney Cummings]

But also, you listening to this podcast as someone who is with me. Sorry, I'm very progressive as my partner is kind of annoying because you don't talk to me a lot when we're together. Cuz you've already hung out with me for two hours.

[Chris Kovacol]

That's why I do it. I actually, I like listening to your voice and so I'll do it when I'm driving and I'm bored. Like, I'm bored in the car and I want to like, hang out with you. So I just listen to the show

[Whitney Cummings]

and listening to the podcast is funny.

[Chris Kovacol]

And Pat's so funny. I want to hang out with Pat too. So I'm like, this is cool. I'm like hanging out and then I get up here and I've got nothing really to say and I'm like, can

[Whitney Cummings]

we like talk or catch up?

[Chris Kovacol]

We just hung out for an hour.

[Whitney Cummings]

He has no questions whatsoever and he will always go, I just listen to the podcast. Pat's hilarious.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, that's true.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay, so we're get to it. We're light, we're funny.

[Chris Kovacol]

We are.

[Whitney Cummings]

Just for today. There is no PDF file ring intact.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, some of these are going to

[Whitney Cummings]

be criminals running free. At the moment, we are not talking about his girlfriend who was the dentist who was pulling teeth on the island. Go. We're gonna just do questions. I've been getting some messages and comments that are like, let's do the Q and A episodes that we used to do back in the day. Q A. What do you want to know about me? I'll answer anything.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

Except my body count. Chris. Go.

[Chris Kovacol]

Whitney Cummings. What are you scared of?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, that's a great question. Eye contact and monogamy.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay, finish this.

[Whitney Cummings]

Hold on, hold on. What am I scared of? Like, actually, yeah, what are you scared of? Actually, it used to be eye contact. I've worked on it. Okay, I need to do that.

[Chris Kovacol]

Sorry, I need to work on that.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know, maybe yes and no. For me, my problem is That I didn't make eye contact. And I didn't realize I was one of the people that looked at people's foreheads or the side of their eye. And I realized, cuz men would always get self conscious, I thought I was looking at them in the eye, but I was looking like here, right? And they'd always be like, what? Like what? And so I had to practice. I worked with this woman to try to learn how to make eye contact.

[Chris Kovacol]

And. Hey, we're not trying to be funny here.

[Whitney Cummings]

She did also teach me how to inhale and exhale because I couldn't do that either. I held my breath like I was hiding as a childhood trauma response. And she, like, puts little weights on you and like teaches you how to breathe out of your stomach instead of out of your diaphragm. Because I kept getting infections in my chest called costochondritis.

[Chris Kovacol]

That'll be a billion dollars.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, well, which turned into plural. C. Which people? Truly, last time they got it was like the civil War. Like, they're like, this isn't even something we see anymore. It's like a cartilage infection in your chest. And so I was like, oh, no, I'll make eye contact. I thought one eye would go to one eye.

[Chris Kovacol]

Oh, no, you just, you go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And then the person. If you stare, like right now, if I'm just staring loosely at like your mouth area, sure. You think I'm looking at your eyes actually. But until I look at your eyes and then you go, oh, he was just staring at my teeth that whole time. What's wrong with my teeth? So I have like, if I focus on somebody, something, I have to stay there.

[Whitney Cummings]

Got it. Because then.

[Chris Kovacol]

Because they're gonna know once I move it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, good hack. So if. Does it feel like. Do you think. Does it look like I'm looking in your eyes right now?

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Really?

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because I was looking right at your nose.

[Chris Kovacol]

I'm looking through your head.

[Whitney Cummings]

I thought the eye. The right eye had to go to the right eye and the left eye had to go to left eye. So I was.

[Chris Kovacol]

So you're like, like one of your eyes was turning in. Totally.

[Whitney Cummings]

So then she was just like, you can pick two of your eyes can go to one of their eyes. So I do that.

[Chris Kovacol]

I'm glad you paid somebody for that.

[Whitney Cummings]

Okay, so it was in cash and it was more of an emotional expense.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, I get it, I get it.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, so what am I scared of? Like, actually, though, yeah. Honestly, very few things scare me except, like, the deep ocean.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right.

[Whitney Cummings]

The ocean in general is kind of like. And by the way, I'm right. I'm not scared. I'm just correct.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right.

[Whitney Cummings]

This thing where people go out in the ocean is like the Alex Honnell thing. He has, like, an underactive amygdala or something and doesn't feel fear. Like, I'm happy for you guys. Don't you think? How do you identify a psychopath if you yawn and they don't yawn. Right.

[Chris Kovacol]

Or right.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like, I think anyone who's just like, I'm gonna go out into the ocean. I'm just like, cave diving, like, stuff like that. I'm, like, even watching it. There was on feed. There was a guy going into a cave. Did you see this? And it was just his feet and it was, like, muddy.

[Chris Kovacol]

Oh, no.

[Whitney Cummings]

But I'll have intrusive thoughts about something. Like, I'll just go, like, oh, the elevator is probably gonna snap. I won't get scared. I'll just be. I'm, like, kind of resigned to it. Like, when I have something scary happen to me, I'm like, yeah, that attracts.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

So maybe it's like, if you're already in a place where you have low expectations for everything and you're ready to be. To be disappointed and for everything. That when it happens, like, a lot of the time that I thought I was gonna die, when I fell off this fence onto this, like, concrete other sort of wall, I literally was like, I truly thought I was gonna die. And I just went, of course I die. Like this. Like, that was my thought. And then I didn't die. And I was like, that was gonna be my final thought. Like, eye roll. Like, of course I'm gonna fall on a fence at a ranch trying to rescue a dog.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, I get that.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm not, like. Like, I don't fight it.

[Chris Kovacol]

I, like, almost went off a cliff on a motorcycle. And I was like, really?

[Whitney Cummings]

I'd like to hear the cliff side of the story.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, it was my fault. Any. Okay, finish this sentence.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, boy.

[Chris Kovacol]

If it were normal, I would.

[Whitney Cummings]

Ooh, that's a great question. If it were normal. If it were. I don't. Here's. We just. This is my problem. I don't even know what that means. I do things already that aren't. I do it. I don't think there's anything I don't do because it's not normal. Like, if it was normal, what. What would I do that I don't Already do.

[Chris Kovacol]

You'd have a horse in your house? Like, in the house?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, that's normal in my family, though. My aunt had horses in her house. Like, by the way, I, I, I don't think that's not normal. I think it's weird when people don't have animals in their house. I think it's weird that I don't have a horse in my home currently. I think it's weird and like, self deprivation and, like, self sabotage.

[Chris Kovacol]

Frank.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think it's actually, like, ungrateful and sick.

[Chris Kovacol]

Well, there are things that you can't do legally, right?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, how about this? Yes. I would have raccoons as pets. I would have crows.

[Chris Kovacol]

There you go.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, yeah. In my car, I would take them with me. Stuff like that. What's yours?

[Chris Kovacol]

I guess I would sing in public more. Yeah, I think I would just walk around with my headphones and singing.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

When you picture happiness, where are you in the picture?

[Whitney Cummings]

In, like, location?

[Chris Kovacol]

You picture happiness?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

Where are you in the picture?

[Whitney Cummings]

Virginia. Like a photo.

[Chris Kovacol]

Describe it. What's it look like?

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm with pinto paint horses. I'm with mustangs. Like, wild mustangs or abused racehorses that I've rescued and Clydesdales that were pulling carriages. And I'm, like, building trust with them. I'm earning their trust fair. Yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay. I pictured the same thing. Aw. I pictured your aunt's backyard looking at the hills.

[Whitney Cummings]

You know what? I actually picture all the PDF files that are currently active. Can I say curb stomped?

[Chris Kovacol]

I think. Yeah. I don't think that that would trigger anything. Not since the late 90s.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. I pictured all of us taking a turn with one of the things they used to get fish. And we each get to take a turn, a gaffe, a gaff instead stab them all each one time. That's what I picture when I picture happiness.

[Chris Kovacol]

Most memorable trapper keeper in the 80s. Whoa. 80s.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't know if it was then because I was early 90s, born in 82. It was the Lisa, Frank. The dolphins that made a heart. Honorable mention. The cowgirl, which is the exact thing I described, which is the her. And the paint horse with the cowgirl hat. Honorable. Honorable mention. The huskies and the penguins.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

And the pig with the crystal ball. That's a hard one to find. Yes. I have it.

[Chris Kovacol]

There were some, I don't recall the name of it, but there were some sport ones. And there was, like a skateboard guy, and it was like, it was like fisheye drawings straight in the front of the board that that would be mine.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. Yeah. That's sick.

[Chris Kovacol]

You know what? My favorite garment back then was this shirt that said shark attack and it had blood and. And like rips on the rib cage. It just said shark attack. It was so sick.

[Whitney Cummings]

Also, dude, do you remember Trapper Keepers used to have like, just geometric patterns. It was just like, like a, like a, a ball that looked like it was like almost like lacquer silver, you know, or something.

[Chris Kovacol]

And.

[Whitney Cummings]

And then it would have like the depth of fields, like the infinity mirror. And you're like, the people that made our binders were on mushrooms.

[Chris Kovacol]

Straight up.

[Whitney Cummings]

You're like, this is like as a kid, you're like, whoa. Like, the world's infinite. We're in a different timeline. Like, how is this helpful?

[Chris Kovacol]

If you could get serious for a minute and give the world lovingly advice.

[Whitney Cummings]

No, thank you.

[Chris Kovacol]

What would it be?

[Whitney Cummings]

No, thank you. Get a prenup.

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[Chris Kovacol]

I knew I wouldn't get anything out of that. I tried. I tried. Hey, everybody that like, wants it. I tried.

[Whitney Cummings]

I feel like I do this all the time. I feel like I do it too much. I feel like I'm way too sincere on this show. No. Really?

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I mean, look, the problem is that all of the loving advice I think is a sham. Like, it's like, here's what you would expect. Love yourself. Not if you're a monster. I think people love themselves too much these days. I think people are giving. Just be gentle on yourself. I think everyone should be a little harder on themselves, in fact.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay, but you're only talking to the people that aren't. Hate watching the show.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, but it's YouTube.

[Chris Kovacol]

What embarrassing moments still haunt you.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, my God. Like, what's the 11 well, when we kissed for the first time and you used your teeth, that was pretty bad.

[Chris Kovacol]

You bonked your teeth against my.

[Whitney Cummings]

I did not bonk my teeth. He believes that the first time we made out, which is by the way, I was in the driver's seat of my car.

[Chris Kovacol]

I'm sure it was my fault.

[Whitney Cummings]

And you reached in like a, like a dyslexic chick fil a guy wrong way.

[Chris Kovacol]

I was like, my pleasure.

[Whitney Cummings]

He like, I was, I was in the car, turned this way and I was like, oh. And then.

[Chris Kovacol]

It wasn't like that.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think it was, it was wanted, dude. The.

[Chris Kovacol]

It was wanted and warranted, of course.

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, I had left the party and you told me to come back. So I was, I mean, I was ready to go home. It was like, that is the noise that it made.

[Chris Kovacol]

I heard, I heard it from the inside of my ears.

[Whitney Cummings]

I felt it down my spine. It was like, truly. We slammed teeth so hard,

[Chris Kovacol]

I thought I was losing. I was like, hold them together.

[Whitney Cummings]

I was like, I've never heard that sound before. I mean, it was, I was like, is that his knee?

[Chris Kovacol]

It was a bad time for me to have done that.

[Whitney Cummings]

When you're dating a professional athlete, every time you a sound, you're like, was that a shoulder? Was that a knee? Like, where did that come from? Is there any cartilage left? Body? That was. It continues to embarrass me with you, which I actually think is really sweet.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because I do have such horse buck teeth. Like, I identify as a horse.

[Chris Kovacol]

I didn't expect it.

[Whitney Cummings]

It's a big insecurity that I have.

[Chris Kovacol]

I didn't expect your mouth to be so big, but we both have such

[Whitney Cummings]

stupid big lips too, that it felt like.

[Chris Kovacol]

It's insane. That it happened at is insane.

[Whitney Cummings]

Like we were both like, like we had.

[Chris Kovacol]

It was a, a judgment issue.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think it was like an angle issue or something.

[Chris Kovacol]

Sure.

[Whitney Cummings]

We were just so excited.

[Chris Kovacol]

I think it was an adrenaline issue.

[Whitney Cummings]

Basically, like headbutted each other. That haunts me. When I first moved to la, I, I, I was feral. I still believe it probably am a little bit. And when I would meet people that were successful, I, I just. There it was before, like podcasts where you could get so much information from successful people and advice and wisdom and stuff like that. So I didn't understand, like, how money worked. And I was on TV but broke and I didn't know that was a thing. I just thought if your head was ever in the box, that is the television you had a hundred million dollars.

[Chris Kovacol]

Everybody still thinks that out there. Everybody still thinks that you have money if you are known.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

And it's actually famous and broke is. Dude. Famous and broke is a new level of nightmare. Like, think about the, like, Irma Gerd girl. Like a. Like a. Like a meme. A meme person who goes everywhere. They work at a tire shop, and everybody that comes in goes, oh, my God, you're. You're my girl. Burks.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. But one girl did sue. I think it was the Wendy. The girl at. Was it at Wendy's, where she was like this. And the meme was ubiquitous. I think she maybe sued Instagram or something and was able to get some money off of it. But like, those person are. They're not even entering Hollywood, though. They're not.

[Chris Kovacol]

They were right.

[Whitney Cummings]

She. That's Internet famous. I think people know that that's kind of like, yeah, you work at Jiffy Lube. But like, this was like, I was on mtv, you know, and like on punk, you know, so. Yeah. And broke. And so I was just so confused. I was like, is everyone. So I remember one time I met Sam Jackson, I would just ask them how much money they had. Like, I was like, is it. How much money do you have? And I didn't see. I didn't realize, like, asking someone about money is more taboo than sex. That's the most taboo thing you can ask people.

[Chris Kovacol]

But that comes from the top down. Yeah, the taboo. The taboo nature. It's like, oh, you don't ask somebody about how much money they make so that we can not pay people the same amount that do the same job. Don't you talk about that with other people.

[Whitney Cummings]

But when you're broke and don't know how to get out of it, like, because then there was California taxes, which I had never experienced before. So I would make $400 a week, and then they would. Withh a hundred dollars. And I was just like. And then there was sales tax and stuff. So I would just ask people, like, you know, I would just be like, so, do you pay California taxes? Like, do you have to, like, do you live here? Like, I just.

[Chris Kovacol]

So, like, you live somewhere else, right?

[Whitney Cummings]

Hank Azaria, Sam Jackson. There's, like a bunch of like, celebrities that I just. I was like, they don't care about me. They don't. What am I going to be friends with them? But they don't want to hear from me. So I would just be like, how much money do you have? Is this normal? I can. I just Cringe at how naive. And yeah, just because I asked Hank Azaria, because, you know, he was on the Simpsons and he had points on the Simpsons. And you don't know how this business works unless someone tells you, like, points

[Chris Kovacol]

is like, stock for them.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, it's like. It's like the back end of a TV show. Because I was like, hold on. I was on a TV show, but I wasn't making any money. But if you have points on it. So I was just trying not to. I was just getting screwed over and screwed over and screwed over. And these agents and managers, they make a bunch of money off you if you don't know how it works. That's what. How they make money. So they'll keep all the points for themselves unless you say, how come I'm not getting points on this? Shouldn't I have more points on this? So I would just like. I was like, how many points do you have on the Simpsons? And what did that translate to? How much money did you make in points? Was like, that more than you made of your fee? Did you negotiate it? Like, I ask these very successful people, Honestly, I think it smart for some of them. It was a little bit, like, refreshing.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Because I think usually people are, you know, just trying to get pictures or whatever. But Sam Jackson, I do remember, and I. And this is, like, kills me. Oh, God. He said. I was like, so how much are you, like, worth? Because I like, how much money do you have? Like, like. And he was like, liquid. And I didn't even know what that meant. And I was like, yeah, because I had no money. And I just was trying to figure out if that was normal. And, like, he said how much he had, and I was like, huh? Like, that seemed like a very low amount for Sam Jackson. And then he was like, well, no, but I have been in my house and I have a. But, like, then he kind of, like, started it.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right.

[Whitney Cummings]

I looked, like, unimpressed, I guess, but I was just confused. And then he started being like, well, I have this and this and this, and I have an ex wife. And then he started. I was like, no, please. Like, like, no, please. I. Yeah. I think about that moment where he then qualified it to explain because I looked underwhelmed.

[Chris Kovacol]

I tell people who say I love her that they only know 10% of why they should. Only 10% of how amazing you are. What don't you share with them that you think I'm speaking of? Whoa,

[Whitney Cummings]

babe, that's true. When you say you don't know her all the. I keep it a secret that I'm nice. Everyone's like, you're the nice. I'm like, don't tell anyone about that. God forbid. I'd be beloved.

[Chris Kovacol]

I'm tough.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think you're talking about my pathological caretaking. No, I think you're talking about, like, I really do get off on, not in a maternal way, but in, like, more of a service way. Doing little things. Like, I want. My dream is to be Santa Claus. I was my dream. Like, I just want to be Santa Claus. And it's like a little gift or a little this or a little, you know, Eagles. Vintage eagles plate or what. Like, if I see something that reminds me of you that I know would make you, like, happy, I get it for you and, like, hide it somewhere and.

[Chris Kovacol]

But you do that for everybody.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's true.

[Chris Kovacol]

Not just me.

[Whitney Cummings]

That's true. I am broke. Little things like that maybe. Oh, and then I think you also might be talking about my relationship with birds and animals and stuff that I've never met. But I'm like, stop the car. We need to feed the crow.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. It's like, no, pull it over right now. I'm like, I'm gonna get us hit by another car.

[Whitney Cummings]

Don't care.

[Chris Kovacol]

And it's just like, but they need to know my face.

[Whitney Cummings]

I.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay, but the crows need to know my face. They remember people's faces. And then you'll go, did you know this about crows? And that's like, something I actually didn't even know is, like, I know a lot of. I know so much about crows. And it's like, those are crows. Those are ravens. Here's why they're different.

[Whitney Cummings]

And like, yeah, if I see a crow that I've been feeding and I drive by, I can't imagine seeing your friend and driving by and not saying hi. It's like, to me, I'm generally like, stop. I just need him to, you know. Or. I haven't seen this particular raven in a couple weeks, and I need him to re update his software on my face so he knows I'm consistent and I didn't abandon him.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

And then I have to find food in my car, like, wherever it is.

[Chris Kovacol]

Oh, in Henry's hand.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. Pull food out of my son's mouth to give it to crows.

[Chris Kovacol]

Opening. Just opening up a lunch box, like a tin one. Like, bang. Like, shaking it out. Okay. Jelly's plat, Platform, Flip flops, Keds. Which is best? Whoa.

[Whitney Cummings]

Platforms. Jellies.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

Jellies. Depends on the quality of the jelly.

[Chris Kovacol]

So now they're OG Jellies.

[Whitney Cummings]

We used to get OG Jellies that were like, in a cracker Jack box. And they would. After wearing them for 20 minutes at Apollo Abdul concert, you were an amputee. Like, I, like, had one less toe. They were, like, just made of barbed wire. It was wild.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. You slide through them like Senator Kelly from X Men turning into water.

[Whitney Cummings]

So there's newer ones that are, like, nicer, but they're heavier is the problem. I know. The nicer ones are heavier. And then you're like, clock.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

And you can't sneak up on people. You can't, like, steal someone's identity, you know?

[Chris Kovacol]

Right. They make a lot of noise.

[Whitney Cummings]

Did you say high heel flip flop?

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, platform flip flop.

[Whitney Cummings]

Platform flip flop. If it's arched, you really can't beat it. If it's flat, you're like, you're slapping no bueno. And you can. I remember there was a sound like

[Chris Kovacol]

you're walking in a flippers. Whack, whack, whack, whack.

[Whitney Cummings]

There was a Steve Madden platform flip flop that was more like a geisha type style.

[Chris Kovacol]

A ball. Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And we would walk down the hallway and you would. You would. Your ankle would roll, hit the ground, and then you would pop back up and just keep walking. It was just like, up, up, up.

[Chris Kovacol]

But then Steve Maddow touched linoleum.

[Whitney Cummings]

Did he go to jail from. He figured it out. It seemed like in jail. When he got out of jail, it was one that, like, hugged your whole foot. It was like an ace bandage that just hugged your whole foot and it would just stay with you. And I lived in them.

[Chris Kovacol]

Nice.

[Whitney Cummings]

Junior and senior year of high school. Keds are adorable, though, and I wish I had rocked Keds harder. Looking back, I didn't really give them a chance.

[Chris Kovacol]

I think they were kind of pointy, though, for the time.

[Whitney Cummings]

I have big feet, so a size 10 and a white Ked is like. Make a wish.

[Chris Kovacol]

You look like a kicker.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. Right. You're about to kick a field goal.

[Whitney Cummings]

You just look like Art Monk practicing in the 70s.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay, finish this one. Being a mom, I found I love

[Whitney Cummings]

kids getting older, which is so weird.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay.

[Whitney Cummings]

And trains. Trains are incredible.

[Chris Kovacol]

Trains are sick.

[Whitney Cummings]

I think there's lots of things that I was like, oh, that's a guy thing. Or, you know, I used to be obsessed with the podcast, how stuff works and they have a book and that kind of stuff. And I would listen to it and be like, I have to Learn this. Like, how does a plane engine work? Because I can't be on a plane and not know how I'm moving. Like, it's. I need to know how this is working. Right? And I think I always felt like it was boring and obligatory and you introducing me to Airplane Facts with Max, but also learning about it with my son and him just being like, this engine works? How? And I'm like, it's just an engine. Who cares? And I'm like, wait, that's how an engine works? That's insane. That's so cool.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, it's. It's finding out the, like, inner workings of things that you see around is so fast. All of it's fascinating. Every single one's fascinating.

[Whitney Cummings]

My new obsession is bridges. Cause I'm like, hold on. They did this before email.

[Chris Kovacol]

How did they do that?

[Whitney Cummings]

They did it before email. You know that most bridges. Bridges have like lots of bodies in them. I'm like, how many bodies are in this bridge? How many? And if this is.

[Chris Kovacol]

I did know that because of Saturday Night Fever they talk about that, about the Brooklyn Bridge.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, really?

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, they talk about that.

[Whitney Cummings]

So things like that, where I'm like, how does a bridge stay up? And after building all these little train sets and stuff and being intimately acquainted with physics, I mean, like, that should just stay. And I'm like, like, I'm obsessed.

[Bayard Winthrop]

Yes.

[Chris Kovacol]

Now that I'm an engineer.

[Whitney Cummings]

Love it. Love it.

[Chris Kovacol]

Okay. Being a mom has changed how I view my childhood in this way.

[Whitney Cummings]

Ooh, such a good question. You know, I did die when I was a year old. Fine, fine. Water under the bridge. I think that my childhood was punctuated by so much like rigamarole, for lack of a better word. Like, I took a pill. I know. When I was a year old and almost died. And like, you think like, oh, there was so much negligence, you know, and there was and fine and that's all. But when you have a kid, you're like, they were there sometimes. Like, they were there and you know what I mean? And a lot of mistakes were made, not condoning any of it. And there's a lot of things that I wish hadn't happened. There's like. But I look at it as like a lot of the adversity that was there was good. Maybe doesn't mean I'm gonna actively inflict adversity on him. But I'm glad I was a little neglected because I became very self generating and self reliant. And I actually like that about myself. And I have like a very Rich inner world in life. And, like, I can entertain myself, and I'm really good at being alone. And lot of people. I mean, I smother my son. He's never alone. And he will not have this, unfortunately. But, like, I see a lot of people that get in relationships just because they can't be alone, or they settle because they can't be alone, or they are friends with toxic people because they can't be alone. I don't have any problems that result from an inability to be alone, and I'm grateful for that.

[Chris Kovacol]

Nice.

[Whitney Cummings]

Is this called Stockholm syndrome?

[Chris Kovacol]

Coping?

[Whitney Cummings]

I also didn't have a lot of toys, but I had horse toys. And I'm grateful for that because I look at the way that Henry, like, what, he loves trains. And I'm just like, he's so into that. I'm so grateful that I had a lot of my little ponies. I didn't have Barbies. I don't remember Barbies. I remember putting some in the oven and like a, like, lighting their hair on fire and stuff. But I feel like that was at, like, friends houses. I didn't. For whatever reason, my parents didn't give me Barbies. And I feel kind of lucky. I love Barbie now as an adult and, like, love the movie, but I just. I wasn't into, like, skinny dolls and Ken marrying. I was like, horse girl.

[Chris Kovacol]

Skinny horse.

[Whitney Cummings]

Rainbow bright, though. I had rainbow bright. I'm grateful for, like.

[Chris Kovacol]

The rainbow bright was real sick, dude.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm grateful for whatever they exposed me to in terms of the toys I had. I never thought about that until having Henry where I go, like, oh, yeah, he's obsessed with trans. I haven't given him he. Man. I haven't given him things that make him think he has to be, like, strong or, like, have abs.

[Chris Kovacol]

It clearly doesn't translate, though. It's like, that's not how that works.

[Whitney Cummings]

As soon as I got a Barbie, I was like, my thighs can't touch. I'm glad I didn't get that thing a second sooner.

[Chris Kovacol]

But, yeah, as a. As a dude, it's just, like, sick.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, They're.

[Chris Kovacol]

They're warriors. Memorable fan moment.

[Whitney Cummings]

I have so many.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. So which was the first one that came to mind?

[Whitney Cummings]

Many. The first one is when I didn't even know anyone knew me. I've been doing Chelsea lately, and I was doing the Chicago Zanies, which is right next to the Second City, and I went to get sushi next door right before I was like, it was one of my first headlining gigs. And I went and get sushi, and I sit down and I look over, and this girl's like, oh, my God. And she's, like, freaking out. And I was like, what? Like, it was like kind of one of the first times I.

[Chris Kovacol]

Snake.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, right? And she's like, oh, my God, I'm coming to see you. And I was like, oh, cool. Thanks. And I just was like, let's be friends. Like, I. It didn't agree.

[Chris Kovacol]

You still do that?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. The idea of, like, oh, you're a fan of mine. Like. Like, I'm in a snow globe and you can watch from out there, and I'm in a zoo. It's just odd. I'm like, oh, if you think I'm funny. Like, let's truly. Let's be friends.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

We probably get along better than most of my friends I've known for 15 years, you know, because we both find the same. So we just like. She's like, are you sure?

[Chris Kovacol]

Whatever.

[Whitney Cummings]

I was like, yeah, let's just, like, have dinner together. Like, I didn't. We became friends. Still friends. She has a husband. It was the day that I realized that. Or I just look back at it as going, like, you know how I think people are celebrities who can just do. Who just have information. If you have a piece of information that blows my mind, I. I. Will you sign this photo of yourself so I can hang? Like, I can't believe I know you. I get so starstruck. Her guy locates pipes in the ground that we don't know where they are.

[Chris Kovacol]

So.

[Whitney Cummings]

Pipes that were built in the early 1900s, water pipes, gas pipes. They just put them down there, buried them. And we're like, someone else is gonna have to deal with this now. They're exploding, and we can't find them. We don't know where they are. So it's like, that's why in New York, they just wait for them to explode. But he does. His company does, like, GPS tracking so that when you lay a new pipe, you know exactly where it is so that you can go, like, do work on it and stuff. And he was just explaining the topography of, like, building pipes. And I was just like, Like, I'm on the edge of my seat. Tell me everything. Yeah, so I. Every fan experience that I had that's like, super memorable is like, you changed my life. And I. I mean, I ask him all the time. I'm like, dude, what's up with this pipe? Like, there's a. This pipe. How deep is this pipe? Like, I just.

[Chris Kovacol]

Sending photos of like random pipes.

[Whitney Cummings]

Dude, it is the. The. The. It is a. If you looked at it, you would go, this is a code. Like the way that you look like Epstein jerky. You go like, this is not about pipes. I'm like, it's actually about pipes.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right, right.

[Whitney Cummings]

They're like, well, this must be a metaphor. This is like a code word for something else. Because we were talking about pipes as much. I'm like, so in Florida, it's limestone. So are the pipes deeper? Are they higher? Like I need to know where all the pipes are.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

What neuro asking what level of autism?

[Chris Kovacol]

Consent age or something?

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Kovacol]

Ninth step. Your 20 year old self. Ninth step is making amends to reach out. As long as it doesn't harm the other person.

[Whitney Cummings]

Or yourself.

[Chris Kovacol]

Or yourself.

[Whitney Cummings]

What apology am I going to make to my 20 year old self? Yeah, I am sorry I only fed you olestra fat free potato chips which had a warning saying it prohibits vitamin D absorption and causes extreme diarrhea. Allegedly. I am sorry that I allowed you to shoplift turkey jerky, no relation. From pink.com and exclusively fed you that ketchup Swiss Miss hot chocolate. I am sorry that I led you to believe that you were hooking up with Gavin DeGraw because it was his brother. I am.

[Chris Kovacol]

I don't know who that is either.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yes, you do. I am. I have so many apologies for this girl. I am sorry that I made you think being a female comedian was a viable career mentally and that you would ever survive it.

[Chris Kovacol]

Dream job, non famous job.

[Whitney Cummings]

Naming lipstick and nail polish colors Easy, sick easy.

[Chris Kovacol]

That's so sick. Yeah, it's incredible. And my final question is, how many Dropbox conversations have you and Pat had? In reality? How many? Give me a real number.

[Whitney Cummings]

My thing with the Dropbox is I am so ready for it to fail that I cut my losses and immediately just go. It's not opening. The resolution's low. I won't wait for it to sign in and upload. I've just decided that it doesn't work because I'd rather spend 30 minutes being wrong than wait 10 seconds for it to just open. And that's my choice. My body, my choice. Because I'll just go to the thing. It'll say, sign in and I'll just go like, that's not signed in and this is broken. And then it'll like, yesterday you sent me a Dropbox and then it started low and I was able to sign in and get to it, but I was. I'm unwilling to go into those woods alone.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right?

[Whitney Cummings]

I will look for a book in a library for three and a half hours. No problem. No complaints. Fine with it. I'll look for my phone for hours. Don't care. But when Dropbox. Ha. I, I, It's. It. I feel like my life is being stolen. I feel like I'm being robbed of my life because also it's, you know, that I don't need you. Like, I could just get. Get this texted. You're not necessary. And you are acting that you're. It's like an egomaniacal. It's like when you wait in line to go to a club you don't even want to go to, and the bouncer's like, hold on. I'm like, I don't want to be here.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't even want to come here. I'm just sad.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

There's nothing good in there anyway. Yeah, you're making. And it's also, I think maybe other people. It's my. Is me. You're making me wait for me. It's a video of me. Like, I don't like waiting for me. You know what I mean? I'm like, there's not even a worthwhile thing on the other side of this.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right? It's a social media post that I have to approve.

[Whitney Cummings]

I don't even like that I'm not, you know what I mean, to wait. And then it'd be me being like, hey, guys. I'm just like, oh, God. I just, you know, had to sit there with my own thoughts for 30 seconds to then have that be like, it's not even like opening a present. Like, if Pat was just like, check out this Dropbox. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Chris Kovacol]

What is it?

[Whitney Cummings]

What is it? And then it's like some funny video. It's not. Yeah, it's just like me being like Shirley Temple. I'm like, okay.

[Chris Kovacol]

You being a caricature of yourself on the other side.

[Whitney Cummings]

I feel like this has been illuminating. Pat, do you have any. Do you have any questions for me? Because I am sick of myself.

[Chris Kovacol]

Just one.

[Whitney Cummings]

Where do you get off? I have one for you, Pat. How dare you? How very dare you. How long can you hold your breath, dude? Where. Ah, you know what? I don't think that's one of my skills. I was reading something about how Kate Winslet in Titanic held her breath for, like, seven minutes or something. That's. I don't. Because I. Yeah, I don't have any cartilage in my sternum.

[Chris Kovacol]

Have you Ever. When's. No, I shouldn't say. Have you ever. When's the last time you were in a situation and you thought you might not make it out alive?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, such a good question. Every day when I try to get out of bed every day. That's a really interesting question. The last time I thought I wasn't childbirth. Childbirth. Which is maybe normal, right?

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

The one time I put half of my foot on a skateboard, I was like, there's no way I'm going to survive this.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, I was right there. You wouldn't have survived. I held your every bit of your body weight. Your feet went.

[Whitney Cummings]

I've. Skateboards are. I have never. I've never been so wrong about what was going to happen.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. Your head. When your head would have hit the ground like a bat, like, your feet went in a way that they were going up to the pine tree.

[Whitney Cummings]

But I've never. I've rollerbladed. I'm actually. I've roller skated. I've Like, I know how gravity. Like, I have a good skateboards are. They are in a different.

[Chris Kovacol]

There's. There are two different. Is it called torque? There's the go this way people and the go that way people. If you can roller skate and you can rollerblade and stuff, that's that way people. If you skateboard and snowboard, you're that way people.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm not a that way people.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, this way people is like a different. It's a different deal. Totally.

[Whitney Cummings]

Yeah. Because I get on a skateboard, I'm like, we're going the wrong way.

[Chris Kovacol]

Or you try to turn to look at where you're going, and now you're bouncing.

[Whitney Cummings]

Well, because also, you and I, it's like when we get off the freeway, I'm like, that's not the right exit. You go. You're this way person on the freeway. I'm a that way. I'm like, it's over there, Right. The house is over there. And he's like, yeah, but it's shorter this way. I'm like, there's no way going right is going to get you left faster.

[Chris Kovacol]

Oh, yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

It just doesn't compute. Yeah, Just go the direction it is.

[Chris Kovacol]

Right. When was the last time you rollerbladed?

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, gosh. You know what's interesting? This is actually collusion. I during the pandemic when I was like, oh, we're all retired, and, like, we're not real. I ordered rollerblades twice and they canceled on Amazon and never came. I'm like, do they not make rollerblades anymore because I wanted to start rollerblading around my neighborhood. I probably haven't really company for sure since Philly.

[Chris Kovacol]

That's like one of those companies that sends TVs to, like, random places.

[Whitney Cummings]

Find someone to charge me for Rollerblades. Like, I paid it and everything. And then they were like, order canceled.

[Chris Kovacol]

I spent companies out there listening to this.

[Whitney Cummings]

I went out of my way to get the. To have the. You know, the ones that go the.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

And then click.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

I was so good at rollerblading when I was in Philly. I would go up and down the schoolkill river with my note cards, with my Eve CD in my Walkman. And one time I fell in a way that was.

[Chris Kovacol]

Tell them about it, babe.

[Whitney Cummings]

Astounding. It was the whole side of my leg shin all the way up to my thigh. I was skinned alive. When I tell you, I. It was just flesh. And I decided that, you know what? You know what? No one stops this guy, okay? I'm a survivor. I'm not going to give up. I put on a pair of Diesel jeans that I borrowed from somebody, Went out to. I believe it was bar Noir, perhaps in Philly at the time, which was like. Like a sweat box. And it would just be like 90s hip hop.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

Four in the morning, I fall asleep in the jeans. I'm just like, I'll just pass out the next morning. I cannot get the jeans off. They have congealed. They have. The scab has coagulated with the denim.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah, yeah, totally.

[Whitney Cummings]

And the scab and the denim are one.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. Cotton leg.

[Whitney Cummings]

I'm a denim person now. I'm a denim. I'm denim.

[Chris Kovacol]

Totally.

[Whitney Cummings]

And I had to cut the jeans off and keep the denim lightning bolt down my thigh.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah.

[Whitney Cummings]

For like a couple weeks.

[Chris Kovacol]

Yeah. Because it's. It's part of Pull it out. Like, you see it. It's like fuzzy denim scab. That's every skate life. Also getting off of street. The sheets. The bed sheets.

[Whitney Cummings]

Oh, my God. Sticky from Atique. Love you guys. Don't ride elephants.

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