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Whitney Cummings
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Addy
But I feel like we've met before. But we haven't.
Whitney Cummings
No, we're. I. You're closer to me than truly anyone in my life.
Addy
You're my best friend.
Whitney Cummings
You're my power of intriguer.
Addy
I love that we're going to we're going to sign the paperwork later. Right.
Whitney Cummings
I trust you more than anyone. And it's also, like, even hearing you, like, like, talk and like, like, your mannerisms and stuff, like, is, like, so.
Addy
Fun to me because.
Whitney Cummings
So I'm a big fan of hers from Tik Tok. I don't know how I found you. I must. It must have just been, like, suggested.
Addy
It was probably during. It was probably during the Blake lively stuff. Like, TikTok was really popping off then. So a lot of people found me then.
Whitney Cummings
And my favorite part of our story is that I'm 90% sure I know her name. I'm pretty sure it's.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Okay. I. For. I thought it might be.
Addy
No.
Whitney Cummings
Okay.
Addy
Imagine.
Whitney Cummings
Okay, so I knew it.
Addy
You knew it.
Whitney Cummings
Just when we were walking around earlier, I was like, there's a chance that I don't know your name.
Addy
I know. I feel like I never tell people my name either. Yeah. I've been keeping it, like, on the down low.
Whitney Cummings
Okay.
Addy
Are you gonna tell them my name?
Whitney Cummings
I know.
Addy
Oh, it's a secret.
Whitney Cummings
Do you want it to be?
Addy
Well, I feel like it's out there now.
Whitney Cummings
Let's see how the pot goes.
Addy
Yeah. Okay.
Whitney Cummings
Let's see how the reception. We can always edit it later and put your name. And if it goes well, let's check the comments and see. I just don't want people showing up at your house.
Addy
No, I know. Well, that's why I'm scared about Reddit, because I'm just like, yeah, they're. They're out to doxia.
Whitney Cummings
I would love. I wish a motherfucker would show up at my house. You just saw me miss the table with my elbow. Show up. See what I know.
Addy
I do always think, like, people are always. They're, like, scared for me, and I'm like, I really think I could, like, fight someone.
Whitney Cummings
Most people aren't going to go to jail for you. The idea that someone is going to come take your life and go to jail for you is a level of, like, self absorption and narcissism.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
It took me a while. It took me a while to be like, oh, but you want to take my. Go to jail forever for me?
Addy
Like, it's so people get nervous because, like, they. People can come into my work. And so people are always, like, very scared for me. And they're like, you need stand up.
Whitney Cummings
We put on this. We say where we are and we put the time.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Like, we're right here. Come anytime.
Addy
I know. So. But then I'm like, I don't know. People are intimidated just by making eye contact in general now. Like, everybody's scared of talking to people in person and whatever. So I'm like, I think I'm going to be okay.
Whitney Cummings
Most of like the guys that are chronically online think we're in a video game anyway. So they can't kill someone. That's just a bunch of pixels.
Addy
Exactly.
Whitney Cummings
So it's like by the time they, I'm just like, oh, are you in the video game? And I'm just bop my head and you'll get the points.
Addy
Like it takes a lot of work to show up in person. So I'm like, yeah, sometimes you get scared of these things and then. Yeah, you think realistically it's like, yeah, what are the chances?
Whitney Cummings
Totally. And like I, I just, I'm the, the whole thing of like, I have a stalker, I have a. It's like, you're not.
Addy
Well, you know how people like, like celebrities are always like, I'm getting death threats and I'm like, from who, though? Like a 14 year old in a basement. Like, what are the chances that this is gonna like, materialize?
Whitney Cummings
I also have great news and terrible news simultaneously for me. Anyone, but. But Gavin de Becker says that the person that's going to kill you is not going to give you a heads up.
Addy
True.
Whitney Cummings
So the people that are the safest are the ones that send death threats.
Addy
Well, you know, I always say like, if I, like, I tell people in my life, like, I'm like, if I were to die, like, don't be sad because I won't care. I won't know.
Whitney Cummings
I won't know.
Addy
So it's like, yeah, it'll just. Hopefully you just hope it happens quick, I think.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
Yeah. So, yeah, I don't worry about that because I'm like, I would never know. You just like, right. It goes dark.
Whitney Cummings
It's. I think that, you know, there's always been crazy people, crazy people. I think most of them are benign. Like, I've had people show up in my house that are sort of like, I just feel pity immediately. You know, I'm just. But what you're not prepared for, you know, being scared of people showing up at your work and scared of people. What you're not prepared for is being insulted by the people that you think are gonna kill you or stalk you, which is actually way worse. So a guy showed up at my house who. Not ugly, not ugly. Showed up at my house in socks because he thought he was being tracked, you know, and this Is actually one of the lowest points of my life because this guy shows up my house. I hate saying stalker. It's like, so.
Addy
So he was looking for you. He didn't just, like, randomly show up.
Whitney Cummings
He went to different houses each night, walked around.
Addy
Interesting. He really liked you.
Whitney Cummings
And here's the thing. I am always so afraid that I don't remember someone that he knocks on the door, oh, he's young. He's in his, like, late 20s. And I opened the door and I was like, hey. And he's like, hey.
Addy
And I was like, he's like, finally, I found you.
Whitney Cummings
Hi. But I was like, what's up? And he's like, do you remember me? And I was like, of course I do. Yes. It just was out of context in my head. I'm like, he must be a neighbor's kid or someone I've met in the neighborhood. And he's coming to. And he's like, so you do know who I am? And I was like, well, of course. Like, what's up, dude?
Addy
Oh, my God.
Whitney Cummings
And then he's like, so we've. You've been emailing with me? And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Addy
Did you know about him?
Whitney Cummings
No, no, no, no. Someone was emailing as me, but he thought he was emailing me for, like, four months. But the moment he went, wait, so you haven't. You haven't been emailing with me? And I was like, no, no. And he's like, well, why did you pretend you knew me? And I was like, okay, I'm officially crazier than you.
Addy
So he got. He got catfished.
Whitney Cummings
First of all, he thinks I'm nuts because I just pretended to know who he was because I was too insecure to.
Addy
Why didn't he have shoes on?
Whitney Cummings
Because he thought he was being tracked. Tracking devices or something. Oh, my God.
Addy
They really whipped him up.
Whitney Cummings
And the way that he said it, he kind of knew. He was like, I think I have tracking devices in my. Like, he kind of like, you know, it was like, heartbreaking. And he was like, no, I've been emailing with you.
Addy
Look.
Whitney Cummings
And it was like, someone that. And then I'm like, dude, no offense, but you think I have this kind of time?
Addy
Apparently people do have that kind of time.
Whitney Cummings
No, but I'm just saying the insult of it. I'm just sort of like, so you think I was going to pick you? No offense.
Addy
No, I know Sometimes it's like, why did you think you had the shot? It is offensive.
Whitney Cummings
So your whole thing is like, you're Wendy Cummings, and then you think that I'm emailing with you, truly, all day, every day. Like. Like, do you think I'm sort of on a pedestal, or am I just, like, a loser with no time?
Addy
I mean, I've talked about this on TikTok before. I have this thing where it's toothless men. Like, this has been, like, a pattern in my life where it's like, literal toothless men are, like, asking me on dates. And it's like, listen, it's kind of insulting. I know I'm being nice to you. It's because I'm not trying to judge you for having, like, bad dental hygiene. But it's like, why do you think I'm, like, in your league? It's really like, yeah, like, I'm kind of insulted by this whole thing. But I do the same thing as you. Like, when I always assume that, like, I always try to be polite because I'm like, maybe I. Maybe I'm, like, misremembering. It's a lot of people, like, people from high school. It's like, you. I don't look that different, but you look a lot different.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Addy
And so then, yeah, you feel kind of bad, and you're like, of course I remember.
Whitney Cummings
Since you've gotten big on TikTok, are people that were mean to you in high school, like, what's good?
Addy
No one was mean to me in high school. I don't think. I mean, I was exact. I feel like I was exactly everything you say.
Whitney Cummings
I'm on the edge of my seat. I've never heard someone say that.
Addy
That's so funny. You know, no one, I, like, really just realized that I was funny. And so now I have this mega distrust for everybody in my life because I'm like, none of you guys ever told me that I was funny.
Whitney Cummings
Why I like you. I've never made a joke in my life. I've never made. I know.
Addy
Like, I'm being serious.
Whitney Cummings
I'm dead.
Addy
That's why.
Whitney Cummings
That's why we get along. So I realized that, like. Like, I remember, like, when I first moved to la, like, I would show up late at dinners with, like, friends, and I would be telling these stories, and they would be laughing, and I'm like, I'm not. I'd be like, this is how I think America should be run, or, this is what. And people be laughing, and I'm like, I don't get why.
Addy
I know.
Whitney Cummings
I'm serious.
Addy
Yeah. No, sometimes I. I am being serious. And I'm like, I guess it is funny. I could understand that. But it's like, I don't. I really. I was just telling my brother this. I'm like, I didn't know, like, because he says the same thing. Like, people do think I'm funny.
Whitney Cummings
And I'm like, we are. I think you're the funniest.
Addy
That's really. I really did not know that about myself until TikTok.
Whitney Cummings
It's also wild because, you know, we were talking about this earlier. You know, I have to say that because of my Tourette's and that what TikTok has done. Anyone who's negative towards TikTok, you're a loser.
Addy
You're a loser. It really is true.
Whitney Cummings
Like, you're a loser. You're basically saying, like, f the nerds. Like, like, it's like, no, it's so.
Addy
Tick Tock is so funny.
Whitney Cummings
It's the best.
Addy
Everybody is so funny. The. The comment sections absolutely kill me. Like, if it's a really viral Tick Tock and you go into the comment section and every single one, it's like, where are you guys hiding? Yeah. And I feel like you find. So I found, like, so many friends on Tick Tock because you finally meet the people that have, like, your sense of humor.
Whitney Cummings
Totally, totally, totally.
Addy
And so, yeah, it's nice. I saw somebody was talking about how, like, they don't want to be online, but, like, they have found people like them online, and so you kind of have to be online.
Whitney Cummings
It's also like, Tick Tock is not about celebrity. It's about. They don't. No one cares. Like, on Meta, Instagram, Facebook, they want to see a celebrity kind of, like, be a little bit boring. As long as it's a famous person. As long as I see I'll, like, watch anything, even if it's not worth my time. Whereas, like, on TikTok, they're like, I don't care if Reese Witherspoon, you better be showing me a recipe, showing me behind the scenes.
Addy
No, people don't want the celebrities on TikTok.
Whitney Cummings
They're all about.
Addy
They really don't.
Whitney Cummings
Never met. Who's like, giving you some life hacks, showing you the biggest video I think I've done on Tick Tock, which besides, like, the Miranda Costco of like, what's your favorite curse word thing, that obviously got crazy. But showing people how to cut a cake with dental floss. Yeah, I don't think anyone that watched it knew who I was. They just want. It has to be Useful. It has to be funny. It has to be quality. It has to be helpful. I've got the most amazing parenting vice.
Addy
I don't think I know I would.
Whitney Cummings
Have lost my child by now.
Addy
Sometimes I think, like, I wish I was on it sooner because we did steal it from the youth. Like, they started it and they were like, they were not doing a good thing with it. They were turning over very uncomfortable. You know, it was so, so funny. And it's really. When I, when, when like my tick tock really blew up is like when we were getting. When it was being taken away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, remember that January? Like, I killed it. I was like, I'm rich. Like, I'm gonna make so much money. And then it was because everybody was on it because we were like trying to get like the last drops. Like, they're taking it away from us. And so that was, that was a great time to me is like, I'm.
Whitney Cummings
Always looking for the, the physical manifestation of something digital, which is like, it's a mall. You're at the best mall on earth and there's stalls of like, funny people, cool people, people that have their, their products, people that have their thing. Then it's like QVC Live. It's like moms at home. Like, check out this waist trainer. Check out this thing. It's like, remember the Sky Mall catalog that used to be on planes where it was like a fish tank, coffee table. It was like before Shark Tank.
Addy
Yep.
Whitney Cummings
The weirdest Shark Tank things ever. And people just like remixing music. There's no rules. I. I was telling you, one of my favorite people on TikTok, all he does is talk trash about the planets. Like, he just roasts the planets. And it is so funny and so specific.
Addy
Did you see the guy that like, goes and scrolls in different places? Like, he's like, he'll go to like a public park and he's like, yeah, I scroll. I, you know, I sat on this bench. Like, it was a great scroll. Like, they get these bits going and it's like, they're so creative. People are so funny. And it's. Yeah, it's just regular people.
Whitney Cummings
But that's what you realize when people got pissed off at comics for. And I'm defending attacking comics. I'm just saying, like, comedy has to evolve. When it's like, oh, they don't want us to say this word and this word, it's like, no, it's just everything you've done is that's just been done.
Addy
It's just played Out. It's old.
Whitney Cummings
There's too many funny people out there. It, like, blew our mind as comics. When every meme that cracks me up, I'm like, who wrote. No, who wrote this?
Addy
I.
Whitney Cummings
Wait, hold on. So we're actually like, hold on.
Addy
We're.
Whitney Cummings
Other people are as funny as us. Like, or funnier. We just are doing this because we had a worse childhood. Like, all these super funny people just have, like, normal jobs, and we're just, like, at 2 in the morning trying to make drunk people laugh.
Addy
Well, I think about it now and I'm like, first of all, I've been on the Internet since I was a child. I mean, this was, like. I was, like, built for this. I just didn't realize that this was, like, a possible career. But so I was like, I wish somebody told me, like, you can just talk shit on the Internet as a job.
Whitney Cummings
But what's so funny about you? It's like, I think someone like me who does it, is I'm doing it. You're kind of just having this conversation while you're doing something else. Like, you don't live and die by it. You're not defined by. It's so refreshing to watch someone just like. So here's the thing with this. And you're kind of just like. There's not a lot of pressure on it. It's. It's.
Addy
Yeah. I mean, I really am just being myself. And I never really realized that, like, some people are not themselves. And that's something I talked to, like, my brother about too, because I'm like, I don't. People say that, like, you're really authentic. And it used to be a problem.
Whitney Cummings
Let me ask you a question. How do they know? How do they know? And how do you know that?
Addy
What? I'm like, I'm just being myself.
Whitney Cummings
I just. There's this conversation about, like, authenticity, and.
Addy
I'm like, I never knew there was another. I never. Well, what would it look like to not be myself?
Whitney Cummings
Because my thing is going. This is, I think, why people that are writers and actors and do what I do don't always thrive on TikTok. Because we're like, okay, is authentic being like, okay, I'm gonna do a version of this joke that's not polished yet. But then people just go like, well, this isn't funny enough. I'm like, no, but I'm doing the authentic I'm not there yet version. And then you're like, oh, so do you want to just see me, like, with no makeup on in bed? Being sloppy.
Addy
But it's interesting because you never know what's gonna do well.
Whitney Cummings
But my authenticity is. I work really hard, and I, like, polish it, and I want it to be great. And then I show it to you. Like, that's authentic to me.
Addy
Right. But sometimes, like, this. So sometimes, like, the stuff that I do, like, the reviews of stuff which are more, like, written. Like, those are the ones where I, like, I don't write it down, but I think through, like, the. You know, I get the pictures together, and I, like, think through, like, the flow of the joke or whatever. Right. Sometimes, like, I think those are probably, like, the. Those are the ones that I take the most time on. Like, sometimes those don't do as well as the ones that are just kind of, like, random, off the cuff. Like, people love when I talk about Alabama Barker. Like, those, like, kill it.
Whitney Cummings
And it's so funny, but it's not. Okay. So this is fascinating because it's. Because you're so excited. You're so tickled by the fact that you're doing it.
Addy
I'm. I think, listen, life is, like, not that serious. And, like, this stuff is all funny. It is all part of, like, an ecosystem. Like, celebrity is, like, this is all part of the ecosystem. It always has been. But in the early 2000s, it was. It was blogs. Right. And so this is sort of, in my mind, like, a resurgence of that, but it's different because it's vlogs, it's regular people. And, like, we didn't really have the comment section. So, like, we had Perez Hilton.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
And, like, D List. And, like, I mean, I remember those days. Those are great days on the Internet. And then obviously, like, that faded away. And so it's similar. It's similar to that. And so I think all of these people that, like, used to have that, like, connection to pop culture in the gossip side of it, now we're back on TikTok, and it's more of, like, a community thing than it was before.
Whitney Cummings
And I think that a hundred percent. And it's funny because someone said something the other day on my TikTok, like a comment. She was like, I'm here too early. I'll come back.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
And I was like, oh. Like, that's like. It's like Whitney just threw this thing out for us to all talk about.
Addy
Exactly.
Whitney Cummings
You came and sat down, but, like, no one's here yet.
Addy
Exactly. It's the comment section. Like, I love that.
Whitney Cummings
I was just like, oh, my God, this is. Makes me want to do more like, lives on there and stuff or something.
Addy
But the lives are good. Like, people. I used to do the lives. Like, the lives are kind of fun, but it's. It's also. You get the wrong people in there.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
You know, they'll push you to the wrong people. And I think that it's. It's funny because sometimes people will. You know, I'll. I'll do a video. And in the comment section, people who normally follow me are, like, checking the people who are obviously brand new because they're like, are you new here? Like, this is kind of. This is the shtick here.
Whitney Cummings
I'm just obsessed. So you have your own. You have a job. You have a career. I'm not allowed to say what it is?
Addy
No, you can say what it is. I talked about. I talked about it.
Whitney Cummings
Okay, good. Because this was. I just remember when we met and we'll get into.
Addy
Oh, yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Like, is that. Is that. This was when the ends with us saga first started. And you, like, you and I have the same ocd. We have the same, like. Like a bee in our bonnet. We see the same things. So many people see the same things as you. Why you're so popular, but, like, you couldn't let it go with the Blake Lively wardrobe, and you just. It was just like, Carhartt overalls, two pair of pants. Like, you couldn't stop. And then I was like, yeah, what florist dresses?
Addy
Like.
Whitney Cummings
Like, she's a floor. Who's a florist? I'm like, no one's a florist. That's such a TV job. No one's a florist. No woman's ever been a florist. It's not real.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
And I was like, so what do you do for a living?
Addy
Yes. So I am. I mean, I've been doing that for. Since I was, like, 18. She's a florist. I'm a florist. Well, I'm. I. It's like. I always say it's like a florist if you want to be a dick about it. Because I do other stuff. I'm mostly like. I'm honestly more of, like, a plant person. Like, plants, pots, like, interior stuff. Like, that's kind of like what my focus is.
Whitney Cummings
That's the coolest job.
Addy
It is a cool job. And I think that. You know what? I think this kind of happened at the right time for me, because when you're in your 20s, and even when you're in your 30s, like, you're still kind of, like, trying to figure out, like, who am I? Like, what. What's like my. What's my life gonna, like, pan out to be? And so the tick tock thing happened at a perfect time because, like, I work for myself. Like, I've been doing this. My, My job is like kind of a specialty job. I've been doing it for so long. Like, I have like a really good core group of customers and I just like, as far as. As far as my job goes, like, I feel like I'm at an expert level at my job. So I'm like, cool with all that. Kind of like, cool with who I am as a person.
Whitney Cummings
I also just think it's because I always say, like, the people that are giving out wisdom are never the wisest people. Like, the people that are the podcasters that are like, take my advice. It's like, why am I. You're trying to get famous.
Addy
And, yeah, well, I really don't care about any of that stuff. I like the money.
Whitney Cummings
But this is why I'm saying, I think that sometimes the most entertaining people are doing it as their side hustle. The people that have the most wisdom are, like, work at a nursing home and like, oh, yeah. So it's like, we've been only getting our entertainment from entertainers. That. That's the number one thing. We're only getting wisdom. We're like cult leaders where their number one thing is like, wellness number. And you're just like, hold on, why am I taking advice from people that want to be wellness mental health advice from people that want to be famous? Like this?
Addy
Right?
Whitney Cummings
Why am I taking health advice about screen time from someone that's posting at 2:00am?
Addy
I mean, I think there's a lot of people on TikTok that I'm like, you need to stabilize your life before you talk about, you know, what the rest of us should be doing.
Whitney Cummings
But I just, I love that you have your thing already so that it's because the most repellent thing, like, what's the biggest insult right now you could say to someone in your opinion, like, what's the worst thing you could be called?
Addy
Ugly. Ugly. I'm very vain, okay?
Whitney Cummings
I'm very.
Addy
I'm a visual person. You know what it is? I'm a very visual person. Like, that's why I have the job that I have. Like, I notice everything. So it's like, yeah, I don't like. But then I think to myself, I know you're uglier than me. Like, if you're. If you're on the Internet like picking apart my looks like let me see you.
Whitney Cummings
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Addy
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Whitney Cummings
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Addy
I. Because I guarantee you're not cool.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
And you're probably busted. And that's why you're not cool, because you're messed up.
Whitney Cummings
See, this is where I'm going to be helpful in your life is that if someone is calling you ugly, they didn't say you weren't funny.
Addy
That's true.
Whitney Cummings
It's the only thing they.
Addy
You know, I really do think, like, like, being funny is the ultimate compliment. So that's why I, like, truly, like, I didn't know this about myself. So I'm like, that's sick.
Whitney Cummings
And if they say you're ugly, it means you are funny. Because usually a pretty girl is less attractive if they're funny.
Addy
Yeah. I never. I don't know. I never. They say I have buck teeth. And I was, like, thinking about it.
Whitney Cummings
I love you.
Addy
And I'm like, you know what? Like, my brother did used to say that about me, like, when I was, like, a kid. But I haven't heard that insult in a long time. Yeah. Because the thing is, it's like, do you want me to go, like, shave my teeth down? You won't like the veneers. And then I'll have to listen to you about that and I'll have those big horse teeth veneers. And I'll have to go back, like, Miley and, like, get them shaved down.
Whitney Cummings
They're winning. Yeah.
Addy
No, I just. I never even. Honestly, nothing really bothers me.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
That they say to me. And I love that because probably five, 10 years ago, I would not have been able to just, like, be on the Internet. It would. Everything would really bother me that, like, people would say about me. But now I'm just like. Sometimes I think for a split second I care, and then I'm like, I really don't care.
Whitney Cummings
These. I like, I. There's Definitely times that I've gotten feedback on the Internet where I'm. Because I'm in the feedback business, I go on stage. If people don't laugh, I go, well, I'm going to change that joke. Like, I want you to like me. I want you. You guys get to decide.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
You know, but negative feedback on the Internet, I think for most people is just like a little video game. And you kind of have to just, like, approach it with, like, if you don't pity them, you're a bully. Sorry.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
You know what I mean? It's a little bit of a mind melt.
Addy
That's why sometimes I block them because I want to. Sometimes I want to tussle with them, you know, because it's like, I'm going to say that's, like, funny. And it. Like, there is a game to it where I'm just like, I'm gonna burn this person. But then I think to myself, honestly, the best thing that I could do for that person is to block them. Because, like, if. If whatever I'm saying is enraging you.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
You probably get enraged.
Whitney Cummings
Has nothing to do.
Addy
And it's probably happening all of the time. So it's like, I'll remove. I can't. I didn't come look for you. You are looking for me. And so the only thing that I can do to help you is to, like, block you and, like, go in peace. I don't know. You got to go find someone else to be mad at.
Whitney Cummings
And also, like, have you auto blocked. Com words that auto block filter comments out?
Addy
I did. I think I did, like, political stuff because I just didn't like. I'm just like, I can't with you guys and I just don't want to deal with it. But, like, no, I saw yours. They don't say. They just. They just say, I buck teeth. I don't know. They're not. They're not saying anything, like, vicious to me.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah, yeah.
Addy
They're like, stupid take or like, whatever. And I'm like, all right. But yeah, I probably. I think probably at the beginning I had some blocked words, but it's not as bad as yours.
Whitney Cummings
I just love TikTok because it's like, not everything has to be for. I don't want to see a take. That's my take. I go to TikTok to, like, what do other people think? I'm not like, you don't agree with me. Bad.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
By the way, bad. Who could ever have a good take? We don't know anything about Anything. It's like we're learning every second. Like, it's.
Addy
There's a lot of people who have no sense of humor. So it's like, this isn't really the place for you. I don't know.
Whitney Cummings
You want another comment that gets me what. And this brings me back to. To you and why I think you're such a big part of, like, the evolution of entertainment or why TV movies, everyone has to rethink what they're doing because the biggest insult you can get is you're a pick me. You're trying too hard. And. Which is my. It is. I'm on. I'm like, here's my joke and here's my thing. And I thought this through and.
Addy
And.
Whitney Cummings
And you're like, anyway. And you're kind of just. And it's just. And I'm like, on the edge of my seat. And I don't know if it's because, you know, those girls, like, on, like, only fans and stuff that just. People pay to just watch them like, like, do chores in their lives.
Addy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Maybe that. That's part of it. It's like, I feel like I'm watching you kind of live your life and just think and talk. But it's really illuminated how corny most entertainment is how, like, written and scripted and fake and false. And so it's making everything have to adjust.
Addy
Well, I think that we. This is what happened with, like, the whole the it ends with us thing. I think there was this, like, shift in how people, like, consume media and like, how really how celebrities have to react to the push for authenticity.
Whitney Cummings
I want to know something about. And we'll get into. It ends with us because this is kind of when I think your observations really at least hit my feed. Whatever.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Press junkets were never watched before this. They used to run on Access Hollywood, and they would come and go. And I think so many celebrities skirted by with, like, tough personalities because something would air once on CBS Morning and then disappear. It would air on Extra and then disappear. One little blip. No one had the footage of celebrity bullying another 100% that could then go around everywhere. So another thing about TikTok that I think is so cool is, like, you can't be a bad tipper anymore. Like, the waitress from the restaurant will put you on blast on Tick Tock and everybody will know your behavior. Like, no one's getting away with anything anymore. Like, Tick Tock to me is, like, the pressure for, like, people to have to be a good person.
Addy
Yeah. I would say so I think there's. There's part of the. I don't know how people air out people in their regular life. And. And there's so many. Like, I have. There's so many people that I have in my life. Like, I have. Funny, that happens to me. I. All the time. And so, like, I'll. And. And I talk to, like, the guys at the flower mart. Like, they're the funniest. Like, they're like, I love your Tick Tock.
Whitney Cummings
Like, whatever.
Addy
So I talk to them about, like, the regular that happens in my life. And I think, like, oh, man, I wish I could, like, talk about some of this stuff on Tick Tock. But for me, there's like a line where it's like, you don't want to, like, it'd be tough to, like, air out people in your regular life. So there is. Sometimes I think that it goes like, a little overboard on Tick Tock. Well, if you're doing a celeb.
Whitney Cummings
What I like, like, and let's just get into it, like, look, Blake Lively and Taylor Swift in this. In the Baldoni. This whole thing is back. And it's back, baby.
Addy
I thought I was over it. And I'm like, I'm right back in it.
Whitney Cummings
This is fascinating because also, look, we're never getting out of high school. I hate to break it to you. This is the escape room that we're never. We're in it for. Just when you think you're out of high school, you own your own business.
Addy
You're back in it.
Whitney Cummings
You're back in. And when, like, beautiful blonde girls are colluding over text message. I have a pit in my stomach. And I think that this was the first big scandal or like, whatever it was where people were like, I don't want to support someone who's mean.
Addy
That's what I mean. Like, I think this happened at, like, it was like the perfect storm. Because people, there's this, like, push for authenticity. Like, we're sick of the fake shit. We have eyes on you all the time. We're dissecting, like, every movement on the red carpet or whatever. And then, yeah, she came out and I think she was playing by like, an old school book. Yeah, yeah. Like, this is like, this is how you could do it, you know, 10 years ago where you and tank someone behind the scenes. And unfortunately for her, it all got put out in the open and you.
Whitney Cummings
Could manipulate studio heads. It was really just all. And there was very few people that could open a movie and direct a movie. So, like, even if you didn't, you know, had tricky behavior, it's like, you know, but now it's just like, there's a new girl on snl. She's hilarious. This person. Tick Tock's hilarious. You know, so there's just too many famous people. But that's ex. I think you just nailed it. But I think people inside the business and this is something that I just, like, love talking about. You say it all the time. You're like, you think we're dumb.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
And I think that the.
Addy
Well, because that's what it used to be like. I mean, we used to. I think about, like, do you remember when they said that, like, Jessica Simpson was, like, huge? They were like, look at her. She's so fat and she was wearing that thick belt. At that time, we did believe that she was huge. Like, so there. There used to be this way to, like, manipulate people where it's just not the same anymore.
Whitney Cummings
Also, Jessica Simpson, like, I love women like that. Like, just. If we're about to just say, like, you know, the Blake Livey thing, trust me, I. I remember I did a whole defense to her. I was like, she had just given birth. Maybe it's postpartum. Like, I was like, let me find a way to defend this behavior. Right. But Jessica Simpson, just. If you think we're going into mean girl territory, which I'm always just, like, sensitive about, I know she was called numb. So she realized. And this is something that I'm kind of obsessed with, with the Blake Lively thing and a couple other people, which is like, I think she knew on some level, no one is ever going to take me seriously. No one's ever gonna think I'm smart. No one's ever gonna think I'm good at business. So I'm just gonna pretend I'm dumb.
Addy
Sure.
Whitney Cummings
That's the only reason people are gonna like me. She went on Ellen, and Ellen said like, like, what's two plus two? And she was like, meanwhile, she made a billion dollars.
Addy
Yep. Well, it's like the Paris Hilton thing too, you know, it was like how.
Whitney Cummings
To kind of just be, like, very mysterious. She's like a sphinx.
Addy
I will say, like, that. That it was a character that they were playing, but that it. There was an authenticity to that character.
Whitney Cummings
They're like, they know no one wants meter. Like, they kind of. Exactly. But I think they knew. Like, I'm obsessed with. When someone knows, like, like, I'm never going to be liked. The best I can do is be, like, dumb and innocent. I'm not threatening, you know, always is. I'm not saying it's, like, calculated.
Addy
I will say, like, the difference between, like, Jessica Simpson and a Paris Hilton, if they're doing that and a Blake Lively, is that Blake Lively is, like, actually, like, behind the scenes, being, like, vindictive and manipulative. And I think that that's why there's this, like, the public turns on somebody like Blake Lively where they wouldn't turn on somebody like Paris Hilton, because it's like you're playing the ditz for sure, but you're actually, like, not a bad person. Whereas, like, somebody like Blake Lively who's like. There's this whole facade going on where you're like, this victim of this guy. And then we find out that really it's quite the opposite.
Whitney Cummings
The difference with Jessica Simpson was Jessica Simpson pretended to be dumb.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
And Blake Lively seems to think everybody except her is dumb.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
I think it's important, though, to remember that actors, they don't get to act that much. They sign up to be actors. They do two movies a year, couple.
Addy
Hours a day, too much time, so.
Whitney Cummings
The movie is never filmed. It's always the drama. Like, actors gotta act. And acting is what. At the end of the day, it is so funny to me that we're just like, give these people prizes for who's the best liar. Like, who is the best liar? Who's the best conniver. I do think the best ones don't know where it ends and begins. And I believe these people should be in zoos. I believe they should not be able to be out. They can't have employees. There's a. There's certain things where it's like, you're. You have this gift. You have this talent. You have the ability to go in front of 400 people and be like, I'm the best at this. Excuse me. I cannot get nervous. When do you.
Addy
Where do you think, like, the line is, though? Because I think that you can probably. I feel like maybe it's. It's how recognizable you are, because you can still. If you're not super recognizable, you can probably still live a normal life where you're not recognizable.
Whitney Cummings
You have too much power, and you're.
Addy
You're probably so conscious, like, self conscious about yourself at all times. And, like, how. The way that you walk and the way that you talk and.
Whitney Cummings
Let's do this. Who nails it? Emma Stone kind of nails it.
Addy
I like Emma Stone. I like when they go away. They used to go away. And in and now they don't. And they are. They need our attention all the time. And I don't like that.
Whitney Cummings
Well, also, it's. And I know Tina Fey said something like this. I'm not, like, against celebrities with their side hustles, but if you want. You want to be famous actor, great, fine. You want to be like a mogul brand, you have to comport yourself like the Rock and like Kevin Hart. You're getting up at 4am you're drinking your energy drink. You're doing your thing. You don't get to be sloppy.
Addy
Yeah. 50 Cent, he's a good. He's a great example. He's somebody who has felt real the whole time. Yeah, but you just.
Whitney Cummings
You're. You're not. You don't get to have falling outs with people. You're a brand. You have to kind of become a robot.
Addy
Yes.
Whitney Cummings
Right.
Addy
Well, you have to be at a level where we don't know too much about you.
Whitney Cummings
And that's what she wanted. She wanted the liquor. She want. And I'm all for women that want a lot of things. You should be able to want a lot of things. And plenty of men have done worse things and gotten all the things and not get canceled.
Addy
And why did she think that that was going to read? Well, when you are promoting a movie about domestic violence, I mean, this is. This is a critique that was around since the beginning. It's like, maybe just don't hawk the junk when you're talking about serious subject matter. That's. And that is like, not. I mean, I'm not in the industry, but just as a person who's been an observer of the industry. It's like, it's that. That should have been, like, pretty obvious.
Whitney Cummings
But here's what I'll say. This is like, I'll get in the weeds of all this stuff, but then I sort of go and go, how about this? Don't do press at all. I don't want to hear her talking about domestic violence either. I don't want to. Like, I don't want to. I don't need to hear actors say anything.
Addy
I agree.
Whitney Cummings
It wasn't written by someone else.
Addy
I agree.
Whitney Cummings
So what I think is happening is it's going to be. I love whatever Darwinism it is. It's sort of like, I never expect Blake Live to be anything except this. Right. It's just sort of like, yeah, it's better. It used to be like this. I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio, he goes on zero talk shows.
Addy
Yep.
Whitney Cummings
He'll do like An Esquire piece. He won't say a thing. And then we go to a movie and we buy it and we. Like, it used to be, how exposed can I get now? It's like, how much mystery can you create? How much anticipation? You know?
Addy
But that's what it used to be like. We are. We are also living in a time where it's like, it's a lot of Nepo babies. And so we. What's your take on that?
Whitney Cummings
What do you think of it? Like, what?
Addy
I don't find them to be very interesting people who have never struggled in their life. It's like, they have nothing really to talk about. So it's like, did you earn any of this?
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
You know, Madonna's son I just saw is like, like, a really talented artist. Like, I fuck with that and like, you never hear about him, and he's off doing his thing. Like, I just respect people that, that want to work for the craft. And I think that a lot of these people are just like, well, you know, this is like, there's so many Napo babies now. So it's, it's. It's made. It's made it pretty boring.
Whitney Cummings
Or how about this? You have to know yourself. So, like, if you're Ben Kingsley Jr. Thus, I know this is a wild cut. Or who's the guy? Tom Hardy.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Whenever I see them with dogs or I love. I'm like, dude, love that guy. I'm actually gonna go see your movie. I wasn't going to. But you must know that you have a cool personality or the people around you love you enough to go, only do the dog thing. Let's not do that interview. When I think part of the reason people feel super comfortable coming for people that act a fool on social media and press junk is like, how many people around you did you cut out who are telling you the truth that you got to this point? If there's a publicist going like, yeah, yeah, do another one. You've been rude to them.
Addy
Yep.
Whitney Cummings
So I already, like, don't feel the need to. Like, I already know who you are. You don't have friends, you don't have girlfriends, you don't have anyone around you that's calling you out, you know? And I think that people feel that, that.
Addy
Oh, of course. I just think. And we were talking about it before. Like, I saw this, this tick tock where the. Somebody was talking about how it was like a glamour spell. That's like, finally, like. Like people are just able to, like, see through a lot of it now. And so it, it's become really hard to hide. Yeah. When you're, when you're kind of like a shitty person. Because back in the day we didn't know, we didn't know that much about like think about Brad Pitt. Like, you know, we didn't really know a lot about him personally. We knew about, you know, some of the stuff that went on with like say Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie. But he was still like a respected, he is still, he's a respected actor. And so there was just like a level to it that I don't think that we really have anymore.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
And obviously like with the Victoria Beckham thing, David and Victoria and now I.
Whitney Cummings
Love, by the way, when something comes up, I'm like, what does she think? What does Addie think? Oh my God.
Addy
You know, it's so funny sometimes I'm like fucking busy busy. And I'm like, like I gotta like, I know people are probably like waiting.
Whitney Cummings
To hear I'm gonna throw things at you.
Addy
But you know, this is part of the reason that like I, that I really like Tick Tock. Because like other people like, like to hear what you always see.
Whitney Cummings
The thing that I feel like I see also I'm complimenting myself, insulting you. Whereas you'll just like with the Beckham thing, I'm like, no guy writes like that. I just, I don't, I wouldn't have to.
Addy
I don't think he's that bright.
Whitney Cummings
I just don't think he wrote that.
Addy
No, I think he's very similar to Prince Harry. Like, I don't think that they're that bright.
Whitney Cummings
No, but that's like, of course, you know, but I just don't think he wrote this. Fine. Like you'll see something that's like a different.
Addy
Well, and I think that to me the most interesting thing about that is that like David and Victoria are a list. Like, like I said, we don't have that many. Like people who are just a list have been a list. I mean, remember when they moved to la, like everybody was like dying to like have a party for them. And so it's not, it's, it's not often that you, that you see, you know, the dark side of, you know, an A list family like that. And it's a friggin baby that showed us.
Whitney Cummings
And I think that it's. Yeah, but so what was your take? What's, what is your take on that whole thing?
Addy
Yeah, I think that, I think there's probably some truth to what he's saying, I think that Victoria is like a very strong woman in the matriarch of that family. I think that when you're a listers you have to, you have to run things in a certain way like the image and obviously like the, the pictures that you post and in the whole thing. So I think that there's, there's certainly some truth to you know, there being this like manipulation that's happening.
Whitney Cummings
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Addy
No 100%. Like, he's kind of like no better.
Whitney Cummings
Person to be micromanaged by. This is a woman that went from a spice. I mean a. Basically dancing in a cage at a club in platforms with like tendrils.
Addy
She's been doing this for a long time.
Whitney Cummings
Being like white collar shirt like 80 like to Tom Ford.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
I mean she's like.
Addy
And I mean the documentary was like amazing. And it's. They've had this like. Yeah. Long history with the press. They're obviously like, you know, they're English. So the press over there is a lot different.
Whitney Cummings
If Debbie Gibson were to become Gwyneth Paltrow.
Addy
Yeah. And so he's, he's sort of like disrespectful when it comes to like him sort of negating the fact that they, they are very, very a. Oh, Brooklyn. I think that he's like ignoring the fact that like this, this is how you run when you're an A list family. So I think that there's probably some truth to some of that. I think airing out specifically that dance thing was crazy and completely unnecessary.
Whitney Cummings
But that's her thing.
Addy
Well, I think that no guy would have noted. No. She had a whole tit for tat, by the way.
Whitney Cummings
No, man. Okay, so that is A big red flag. It was like, she danced sexy at my thing. So you thought she was sexy? Well, so why is it sexy?
Addy
This is the longer story of that, I guess, which I just read, is that. And it was. It was a blind item, like, at the time, I guess that Mark Anthony.
Whitney Cummings
I don't know what blind item means.
Addy
It's like.
Whitney Cummings
Like, we don't know who's it did it.
Addy
Like, you don't know who wrote it in. Like, you don't know. Or sometimes it's. They don't even say who it's about. So, like, the crazy days and nights. Blind items, which are like. Those are the OG Blind items. They've been around forever. They used to, like. Like, they used to have specific names for celebrities, but you didn't really know what celebrities. So then after. After there were like 10 blind items, you could kind of say, like, oh, everybody thinks it's this. Like, there was like, oh, the. The toothy tile was. Everybody thought that was Jake Gyllenhaal. I know, right? I know. Imagine.
Whitney Cummings
Well, no. And they're also saying now that a wedding planner is, like, suing because of bad behavior. Stuff like that. Stuff like that. I just think, like, I'm.
Addy
Are you gonna sue your wedding planner? You think?
Whitney Cummings
I am so the opposite. I can't work with a wedding planner because I feel bad telling anyone what to do. I'm like, I got.
Addy
I know. I'm kind of surprised that you're gonna do the whole big wedding thing.
Whitney Cummings
I don't know. Well, I'm like, it's hard to pick a date. I'm. I am so worried about bothering people that I'm just. Is it.
Addy
Yeah, it's what they do.
Whitney Cummings
I know, but I'm worried about bothering people to. Like, everyone's so busy. I'm like, I don't have a wedding, and then you have to come. I actually. I'm so codependent. It's such an al Anon that for my wedding, I always wanted to do.
Addy
New Year's Eve because I like that.
Whitney Cummings
Everyone'S looking for something to do on New Year's Eve. New Year's Eve sucks. Everyone gets to dress up. Two birds, one stone.
Addy
I like that.
Whitney Cummings
But most people work on New Year's Eve comedians so that I can't do. Someone I know did a Halloween wedding.
Addy
I like that.
Whitney Cummings
Like, Sunday or Saturday after Halloween, which is so funny. And people came in dressed up.
Addy
I like that.
Whitney Cummings
Which is so sick.
Addy
So those are the only two holidays. I hate when people get. You're Gonna get married over the fourth of July holiday.
Whitney Cummings
Like can we let America have the birthday?
Addy
Let people have their vacation.
Whitney Cummings
Are you trying to steal America's Sunday?
Addy
How dare you.
Whitney Cummings
Also, it's summer. People have their kids.
Addy
I know.
Whitney Cummings
What is your definition of bad vibes? Like what? How do you know? I always say just to give you time to think.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
I'm. When I ask someone a question and cut them off before they speak. I just don't want you to feel put on the spot is when people, when I'm like, I don't know about this person and they're like, how do you know? How do you have like a good read on people? I don't look at their. I, I examine how I'm behaving around them.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
If I'm walking on eggshells, if I'm over complimenting or being unctuous or sort of going like, oh, you do need.
Addy
I don't know.
Whitney Cummings
But if you're busy, like, you know, because I'm such an idiot if I start insulting myself and self deprecating. Usually this person is a problem. I look at my reaction.
Addy
No, I agree. I think you have to definitely be aware of like what your energy is. And I, I'm like, I'm really good at. I like weird people. Like, I like crazy people. I can have a conversation with like basically anyone. So usually if I'm really struggling to like have a conversation with someone, I can make any conversation not awkward. Like I'm, I'm really pretty comfortable. So to your point, I think usually if I feeling, I'm feeling like I really have to like watch what I say or I, I'm like tense. I'm just not a really tense person. So if I feel that energy, I'm usually like the vibes aren't good. And a lot of times like you know, it, it has nothing to do with me. But they might come in and they want to like I don't like when people try to assert themselves over me.
Whitney Cummings
But also it's like people that aren't fake. When you have to be fake around someone, you really feel it 100%. So if I'm like around someone and then I feel depleted afterwards, like I've been being fake because I knew this person wouldn't be able to handle 100.
Addy
I think that there's like, that's why I don't really get worried about like people like seeing me on Tik Tok. Cuz I really am. Like, I feel like I'm the same person but there are certainly people that, out of respect, because they might be a more uptight person. I peel it back. Like, I'm not going to be like, yeah, you know, I'm not going to. There are certain people that, you know, I shoot the with and we laugh about, like all sorts of weird, you know, stories and whatever. They're of course, like, the flip side of that is the people that I'm like, they're. They're a little bit more of like a conservative person. And I don't mean even mean politically. I just mean, like, they're a little bit more buttoned up.
Whitney Cummings
Yeah.
Addy
And like uptight. And so I do, I try to like, cater myself to that because it is a, you know, I am providing a service.
Whitney Cummings
So I do think it's important. And I want to just talk about some of the people that you've talked about because I want to bring back. I've talked about this on the podcast. I want to bring back not trying to cancel someone or criticize someone or take someone down or out someone or whatever it is because of some self righteous, sanctimonious reason or just like, that person rubs me the wrong way.
Addy
I like that people are crazy, but it's not even.
Whitney Cummings
It's like, we're not a match. Like, we're supposed to meet like 15 people our entire lifetime. We were supposed to our life expectancy.
Addy
It's so true, the fact that we're.
Whitney Cummings
Meeting all these people. I saw a meme that was so funny. It said, like, you know, there used to be the red reading group, the gold reading group, and the blue reading group, and we all had separate classes. And now we're all like, yes, together. And we're not all meant to hang out, you know, so.
Addy
Right.
Whitney Cummings
But I want to bring back, like, I just don't. That person rubs me the wrong way. And I don't owe you an explanation. I don't have to tear down their character. We're just like, sometimes, you know, you see dogs at a dog park and you're like, they're gonna play and they just don't.
Addy
Right.
Whitney Cummings
You're like, why are you guys getting along? Or kids at a park. You're like, how come there's like, we don't. We just don't.
Addy
Well, I wish more people had that attitude because I do think it's like this, this idea that if you disagree with somebody, like, you have to hate them.
Whitney Cummings
And it's like, it's like, like I like to break it down some ways. I go like, did you Play team sports or not. Like, there's people that played team sports and didn't play team sports. They are. There's the theater kids and the athletes. They're never gonna get along. Only children. And not only children. You're never oldest sibling and youngest sibling. Never gonna see eye to eye. Someone that worked on a farmer and someone that didn't. Never gonna see eye to eye. Like, there's certain ways that I break things up that are never like, sex, race.
Addy
Do you believe in astrology?
Whitney Cummings
My thing about astrology, Addie, is I believe in it, but not for the reasons of, like, space.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Is I do believe that your personality is largely formed by birth order, all that kind of stuff where you're born, about epigenetics, but also the most seminal, important day of your life as a kid being your birthday. Your birthday's proximity to other holidays. Because it decides how much attention.
Addy
Oh, by the way, yesterday was my birthday.
Whitney Cummings
Happy birthday.
Addy
I know.
Whitney Cummings
Oh, my God. But it's such a bad friend.
Addy
I have no. Well, it's because I have a January birthday and I'm like, this is like, not.
Whitney Cummings
Nobody cares.
Addy
No one cares. Not one person.
Whitney Cummings
But I think that they say January birthdays are the most intelligent. And I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that you have to find other ways to get attention because no one's giving you a birthday party. Like, no one cares.
Addy
It doesn't matter. And then doesn't matter.
Whitney Cummings
Capricorns. Is it Capricorn or is it I'm.
Addy
I believe I'm the first day of Aquarius. Got it.
Whitney Cummings
Because also, I'm Virgo. And everyone's always like, Virgo said Virgos are anal and retentive, and they're like, all about work. And they're.
Addy
I believe more in, like. And this is like that, like, woo woo thing. I. I feel like mothers have to warn their sons about the girls that are like, you know, where were you born? In what time? Because they do the birth chart thing. Like, I feel like there must be something to that. Where it's like the way that the planets were aligned. Like, Like, I believe in that more than the more broad, like, Aquarian thing.
Whitney Cummings
I was born. I was born on September 4. It was the first day of school. So, like, I, I. No one had a birthday party. I was like, hi, it's my birthday. Everyone was like, cool, we're doing it. We're studying, like, you know, we're trying to finish our, like, summer reading.
Addy
But have you ever done your birth chart? Where it's like, down to the. It. You have to do it by, like, where. Like, where you were born. Like, you know, the state and the town, whatever.
Whitney Cummings
I think it's really just, like, you know, a proximity to other holidays. Like, if you are bor. In January, no one cares. Like, you have to get attention on your own. December, like, you know, they're like Sagittarius. Like, you're off school. You can have a birthday.
Addy
The summer kids are really spoiled. They think they're getting gifts. Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Earlier, you know. Exactly. Stuff.
Addy
They think they're better than everyone.
Whitney Cummings
Totally. And then, like. Like, February is Aquarius. It's like, isn't there. They're emotional. That's like Valentine's Day. It's like, my birthday is the same time as Valentine's Day. I don't know. It's just. That is something that, like, makes sense.
Addy
Yeah, it makes sense. In January is like, there's nothing. Yeah. So it's. Yeah, it's a lot.
Whitney Cummings
But I think that the most impactful thing is epigenetics and, like, birth order and sort of stuff like that. But. Okay. I want to get more to.
Addy
Yes.
Whitney Cummings
I'm obsessed with this gut instinct thing of, like. Because you just. I love your just gut. Like, you don't talk yourself in and out of anything. I will talk myself out of my gut instinct. Like, this rubs me the wrong way, but, like, to her credit. But, like, it's probably not fair because.
Addy
No, I do do that, but I. But I work through all that before I come to my. My decision and announce it.
Whitney Cummings
Were you a Taylor Swift guy before this?
Addy
Do I seem like a Taylor Swift person?
Whitney Cummings
You, I think you, I think, would go. I think you could go the way of. I like a woman that just gets her bag and does not care what anybody thinks, because clearly she doesn't. And she's very strategic. And there's something refreshing about how authentically, like, like, ambitious she is.
Addy
I just. She's, like, so corny to me. Like, it's so, like. But.
Whitney Cummings
But by the way, that's good business in a certain way, certainly.
Addy
I mean, it's worked out for her, dude.
Whitney Cummings
Katy Perry.
Addy
It's not for me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't have to be. It's just. No, and it doesn't have to be. It serves its purpose.
Whitney Cummings
Running around with the lightsaber. I'm like, this is what's entertaining. I want someone who's like, I'm here to entertain you, you know? You know, who's A star Carrot Top. He's got a basketball. Oh, my God, he's got lights.
Addy
He's smashing stuff.
Whitney Cummings
This whole thing where people just, like, lean against a brick wall and, like, complain about how depressed they are. Like, that's not show up.
Addy
I was laughing about Katy Perry because she's now with Justin Trudeau, which is, like, insane to me. But I'm, like, seeing her now, she's dressed like, you know, the first lady, whatever. And I'm like. Used to shoot, like, the whipped cream out of your tits at the DNC convention.
Whitney Cummings
Attention.
Addy
Yeah, yeah, they got. Okay, this is a funny story. So I was in New York, like, in 2016, like, watching the. I hadn't even got an apartment yet. I was, like, staying with my friend, and we were, like, watching the election results, right? And it's Hillary and it's Trump. And of course, we went to sleep thinking. Everybody did, like, thinking, like, hillary's gonna blow it out. Like, whatever. And I remember waking up and we were like, trump won. And it was. The energy in New York was, like, insane. And I had just moved there, and obviously, like, when you move to New York, there's, like, the energy there is, like, overwhelming anyways. And it was just so nutty. Like, I was like, dude, this is crazy. And I go down to the subway, and they had.
Whitney Cummings
And this is why you're not suggested on YouTube this. Oh, I. I told her to not curse too much. Oh, why?
Addy
What did I say?
Whitney Cummings
Well, no, you just, like, it's your boss.
Addy
Oh, okay.
Whitney Cummings
So you're just saying like, this.
Addy
Okay, sorry. Right. So we go, where did I start swearing?
Whitney Cummings
Anyway, no, it's the energy.
Addy
And okay, yeah, the energy in New York's, like, crazy. Especially when you just move there. It's, like, really intense and overwhelming. And so that morning, everybody was just like. It was. It was nutty. Like, all the energy was, like, weird. Like, people couldn't believe that he was just elected and whatever. So I go down to the subway, and they were doing this thing where it's like, you were. You were to write, like, your feelings on a post it note. And it, like, obviously it had to do with the election. And so there's like, this whole wall. And I wrote, this is Katy Perry's fault. Because it was. It was. And I think back on that, and I'm like, I still 100 believe that because it is kind of like how, you know, Megan the Stallion ended up being this big joke. And, like, Cardi B. It's like, even back then in 2016, I was like, you got to stop it with the celebrities in politics.
Whitney Cummings
No, they would.
Addy
Would.
Whitney Cummings
The left would. This is when I started making fun of left the hardest. As someone that is in this business, as someone who would love nothing more than to have Katy Perry's career with someone who does just as desperate pick me stuff. Like to not know that people that work in the biz again, the business that was built on the back of a three year old toddler named Shirley Temple. Why are we aligning?
Addy
Why are we mixing celebrities?
Whitney Cummings
Like the fact that, that, that politics was so out of touch to think like, oh, I want to get my thongs with fake pubic hair on them from Kim Kardashian. I want to get my bras with fake nipples from Kim Kardashian. I want to get my way too dark bronzer from Kim Kardashian. I don't want my voting advice.
Addy
No, that should be. That they should be the break that we all have. And we were talking about this earlier. I think that what, I think that what's happened now is that like celebrities think, like, I have to say something. And it's like the rest of us, the normal people, people, we are sick of everybody saying stuff all the time because we, we experience that in our normal life.
Whitney Cummings
You get this idea. Like, no one. I'll every now and then get like, your silence is deafening. I'm like, no, it's not. No one wants a woman to talk any more than I already talk.
Addy
Like, it doesn't do anything. That's the other, that is the other thing. Like me speaking out about it. It doesn't do anything. Like, stop acting like.
Whitney Cummings
Let me ask you a question though. Has that ever worked? Like, who? When a celebrity's like, I'm gonna weigh in, I'm like, like, give me an example. Paul Newman, I don't know, he made a salad dressing. Like, I'm just trying to think of.
Addy
A famous person that we ever cared about.
Whitney Cummings
I think that a lot of those people have aspirations to go into politics later. Because I'm just sort of like, there's no one you can look to that ever did this. And it went well. There's no proof that this is gonna work.
Addy
I think it's a psychological thing where you think that, like, you have to speak out about something and sometimes times, you know, you get whipped up. They want us all whipped up.
Whitney Cummings
But you get paid to say what other people write for a living. What made you think that anyone wanted their ego?
Addy
I think it's their ego in this, in this, like, this psyop that we're living in, where it's like, you have to speak out or you're not a good person, or this or it's that. And I think at the end of the day, it's like, are you good to the people in your. In your life every single day? Because until you really feel good about, like, about those relationships, because those are the relationships that, like, that actually matter and that. Those are the relationships that, like, move the needle. It's like, people need to focus on their life.
Whitney Cummings
So you're telling me that. Okay, so it's like, if I, if. And this has happened before where, like, famous people will come to me and like, should I, like, post about this or should I, like, speak out about this to help people? I'm like, I've seen you be recognized and, like, run away from someone who recognized you, refusing to take a photo, not saying hi. So, yeah, so you. Who are you trying to be nice to?
Addy
Right?
Whitney Cummings
Like, like these. You fly private so you never have to be around these people that you are supposedly helping and supporting.
Addy
And like, I find in my life, because I, I do, I, you know, I provide a service to people and so, you know, I'm at their mercy in. In some sense. Sometimes the people who, Who I think present themselves as, like, the most, like, morally correct people in my experience, like, sometimes those people are actually like, the.
Whitney Cummings
The rudest all the times.
Addy
And so it's like, that's why I'm.
Whitney Cummings
Just kind of like, what does every neighbor say about serial killers when they get interviewed? He was such a nice. Yeah, he was such a nice guy. He was so sweet. He volunteered down at the church. If you're doing something bad and you're a bad person, you have to present nice and do all kind of nice things, right? When someone's just like, hi, what's up? I'm like, I trust you. That person.
Addy
Well, I think that's why I, that's why I don't really, like, I don't really care what people that don't know me say about me because I know about the relationships that I have in.
Whitney Cummings
My regular life says so much more about them than you. Like, I hope that you're.
Addy
Oh, totally. Well, I think. And I, I agree with that too, but that's why I think you have to be really secure. And like, I just, I. If I laid in bed at night and, like, thought that I was, like, mean to one person, like, it would keep me.
Whitney Cummings
Tell me.
Addy
So I'm. I'm really like, conscious of that. And I don't just. Just do it so that, like, I feel good. Like, I think that that is how you. That's how you should operate in life, because that really is what life is about. That's why I'm like, stop worrying about what everybody else is doing. Like, focus on your family. Like, yeah, yeah.
Whitney Cummings
I. I don't respect. Like, who do you respect in Holly? Celebrities. They can be athletes. They can be. I'm just curious. Like.
Addy
Like, who. Like, who? I always like Shaq, because, by the way.
Whitney Cummings
Oh, the best. Because here's the thing. I spend most of my time in this business trying to convince people in Hollywood, like, they think you're a pedophile.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
Like, just going, here's what. And then I also like to just go, like, what? Where are the blind spots? Who do people like?
Addy
Who. I mean, I did my whole. I did. So I did my list. That. That was pretty popular. I did the list.
Whitney Cummings
People you like.
Addy
I did. I. Well, yeah, because everybody's like, do a list of people you like. So there was. Yeah, there's a list floating around and people like. I mean, I obviously like comedians because I think that comedians are, like, there's a safe spot with comedy where it's like, you. You don't want to get to that level that. That the celebrities are at, because then it's like, there's almost like, you need that friction.
Whitney Cummings
There's no tension.
Addy
There's no. Yeah, there's no tension there. So I feel like comedians are usually, like, they're not. They're not portraying themselves in this, like, very fake way.
Whitney Cummings
So I usually think, in no offense, like, I wish I could do it. I just can't. I would if I could. There's a level of fakeness you have to.
Addy
To be able to, and I don't think you can be in a comedian.
Whitney Cummings
Engage and to make it there. I don't think that. That Robin Williams did or, you know, it just. The business was very different back then. You know, I don't think that Robin Williams was, like, super. I think he, like, other people played the game for him, and he had a kind of leverage that doesn't exist anymore. But now, because of what's going on, you have to kiss ass in a way that, like, I just feel like it's lying.
Addy
Yes, I think maybe I could do.
Whitney Cummings
It, but it would be so draining, and I would feel so dirty and gross, and it would just take too much energy. But also, it's like, I can't really be around People that I don't respect. And it would be like, if you buy my fakeness, you're dumb.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
You're too dumb to work with. I can't take notes on you and work with you creatively. So it's like. It's just like this weird little trap that a lot of comics get into.
Addy
Well. And I'm sure that it's hard. It's like, hard to. It's hard to toe the line there because then you get so big that you have to be really careful about the things that you say. And I don't think that's as funny.
Whitney Cummings
It's like Cat Williams. It's like, that's part of the reason he's so.
Addy
Cat's podcast, which Shannon Sharp is like, one of my favorite. Like that. That's probably like my favorite podcast of all time. That was just. That was just incredible. I think that he wants to be like. Yeah, he wants. He doesn't. He wants to be kind of like.
Whitney Cummings
I think that's what comics want to be. We're sort of Robin Hood. Like, we're kind of. We're downstairs. Downton Abbey.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
And we can, like, get up and, like, pass for a little while. And then we want to kind of see what's going on. Go. I don't want to be up here. And then we go downstairs and go, like, here's what I saw.
Addy
Yeah. I think that there's more freedom to it then. But. But to go back to, like, who I really like. Like, I love the Beckhams. Like, I like. I like a Listers that act like a listers.
Whitney Cummings
Like old school people that aren't like, I'm a this. But I'm apologetic and I'm really just like you.
Addy
Yeah, I know. I don't want them to be like me. I don't want them.
Whitney Cummings
No one says this.
Addy
No. Be extremely attractive. Don't talk to me about your political views. I don't care. Go away in between projects. So like anybody, I always say, like, it's hard for me to remember, like, the people that I like because they go away. Maybe I'm a prude, but, like, why is everything so freaked out out? I went to the SpongeBob movie with. Listen. My little brother and I were, like, taking my nephew to the spongebob movie, and we're like, listen, we don't like that. Ice spices in it. We're not taking him to the spongebob movie. We're going to Zootopia.
Whitney Cummings
But how is he gonna know the ice was ice Spice.
Addy
We didn't. We just didn't like where that was going. It's like, why is Ice Spice in this movie? But so then we get there. We're. We're literally 15 minutes too early for Zootopia. And we're like, let's just go to SpongeBob. Like, immediately. Like, our morals. Yeah, it went right out the window. We're like, let's take this kid to SpongeBob. He does whatever. There was so much butt stuff happening in spongebob.
Whitney Cummings
And have you seen Winnie the Pooh lately?
Addy
I.
Whitney Cummings
Now that I.
Addy
He never wore pants.
Whitney Cummings
Never. He never wore pants.
Addy
And it's weird because why is he wearing the shirt?
Whitney Cummings
Could have worn just the pants and not the shirt. And in the one that I played to my son as he falls asleep in his nap and I am irate lying there because it's his favorite one now he gets stuck in a tree and the kids start playing with his bottom.
Addy
I'm telling you, there's some weird stuff going on. Because even my friend who's gay said, it's really weird. I went to the spongebob movie and I'm a spongebob person, and it's embarrassing that I went, whatever. He's like, there was a lot of butt stuff happening. So I'm like. I'm like, just wit. There's just a lot of focus on butts. And then I'm like. And I think that that's, like, happening in society anyways. Like the. I talk about, like, Emirates. She wanted to be a butt girl. And it's like, girl that it's too saturated because we have too many butt people. Right?
Whitney Cummings
Right.
Addy
There's a lot of butt girls happening. There's been a of lot of focus on the butts. And so it's like, I gotta say.
Whitney Cummings
And this is part of why I, like, defend the Kardashians. Like, of. They made it okay to have a butt.
Addy
They put butts on the map.
Whitney Cummings
Can I tell when my beauty mentor or what? What would be my. My body? What is it? North Star was Kate Moss. I grew up looking at Kate Moss and being like, I'm just gonna drink diet spray.
Addy
Nothing tastes as good as skinny looks.
Whitney Cummings
And, like, not lift weight. Just, like, run and get skinny. So, like, I would have given anything for Kim Kardashian and the Kardashians to be the standard of beauty.
Addy
We only saw one picture of Kim Kardashian completely unretouched. And it's when she was in Cabo, she went and they took pictures of her. And they didn't retouch the pictures. And it was the only time that you actually saw what that butt looked like. And so as. As much as they did, like, normalize, like, being curvier, it's like, that was all a facade, too.
Whitney Cummings
How Jean was genius. Is that because I'm not buying skims if it doesn't turn that butt into that butt.
Addy
That's true.
Whitney Cummings
Them going, these are what. This is what it actually looks like. But this is what it looks like if you wear products or use my cream on your butt or use this pill that I sell.
Addy
Well, they're. They were marketing perfect.
Whitney Cummings
People don't.
Addy
Chris is a marketing genius, and I have a lot of respect for her. I don't believe in hate watching. Like, if I don't like someone's content, like, I. I don't watch it because it's like that. That to me, it's like you're messing with, like, you're messing with your own energy when you're consuming things that, you know, like, upset you or that you don't like or you don't like. You don't like the person or whatever. So I think it's always better to. That's why I kind of block people because I'm like, I don't know. You shouldn't be watching me if you hate me. Like, it's not good for you.
Whitney Cummings
I didn't see. But a lot of people want to drink poison and wait for the other person to die, right? Yeah. I didn't know that you were gonna be, like, an energy person. Like, but it makes so much sense.
Addy
Like, we are vibrations and energy and all that. And I'm not like, super woo woo. But, like, I feel it, you know.
Whitney Cummings
It'S like there's times that someone comes around and you're just, like, anxious. You don't know why.
Addy
Yeah. Or you're just like, you're you. When you, like, catch. Like when you're like, you know, you have a good week where you're just.
Whitney Cummings
Emotional contagion.
Addy
Yeah. Or just like, I don't. You can. You can feel it when, like, the vibes are right and, like, things are working for you.
Whitney Cummings
And I think that you're making me realize, like, highly sensitive people. I'm not going to say, like, empaths, maybe. Fine, whatever. Like, we are so sensitive to people's behavior, which is part of, like, people, like, why are you talking about this still? And it's like, you know, why are you obsessed with this, Blake? And it's like, cuz deeply shakes me to my core when I feel like there are people out there who want to humiliate.
Addy
Yeah.
Whitney Cummings
And who want. Who spend all this time. Well, it's like Reddit trying to take down someone's dad. Like, it's just a little bit like, oh, God, he's someone's dad. I'm not defending either. I don't know what happened. I don't even care if it was the other. Like, you just. It shakes us to our core.
Addy
Right. Well, I think there's a difference between, like, negativity and like, just like, hating on something. Like, I, I do. I think everything is like, kind. Like I try to do it. Like, I think it's funny. Like, I don't hate any of these people. Like, they're fun to make fun of and like, whatever. But I think that there's a different. There's certainly a difference between that and like, say, what happens on Reddit where it's like this, like, we're gonna go after this person and it's going to be like, you know, go after their looks and the way they said something and it's this like, group of people and it's similar to like, what was going on with, like, with. It ends with us, you know, behind the scenes and that they're going after this one guy there. That type of negative energy and the link up of that energy is a lot different than, like, you know, just joking about stuff.
Whitney Cummings
I am deeply obsessed with you and DJ Hungry Human.
Addy
Yes.
Whitney Cummings
Is your TikTok.
Addy
Yeah, I'm on YouTube too.
Whitney Cummings
Okay.
Addy
I gave it up for a little while because of the. The Wicked press tour. I couldn't talk about it anymore. I took a little break. But I'm back.
Whitney Cummings
I highly recommend you reach out to your TikTok hero, because as you've seen here today, you can lure them into your home.
Addy
Yes, I live here now.
Whitney Cummings
You can really just kidnap them, lure them into your house and force them to be your friend? Yes. Okay. I love you guys. DJ Hungry Human. Thank you. Addy. Don't ride elephants. Goodbye. Bye.
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Release Date: January 26, 2026
Host: Whitney Cummings
Guest: Addy aka DJ Hungry Human (viral TikTok personality)
In this episode, Whitney Cummings makes a rare return to guest interviews, bringing on Addy, known as DJ Hungry Human on TikTok, whose sharp, irreverent pop culture commentary has made her a go-to source for hilarious, smart takes on celebrity gossip and internet drama. The two vibe instantly, diving into the wild evolution of TikTok, the changing nature of fame, managing internet backlash, and the palpable shift in how both comedy and celebrity culture now operate in the social media era. Woven throughout are stories about authenticity, boundaries, intuition—and, of course, plenty of astute and funny observations about the latest drama in celebville.
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In classic “Good For You” fashion, this episode unpacks the absurdities and shifting realities of modern fame, all with fierce humor, cutting honesty, and the kind of incisive pop culture analysis that only someone who’s both within and outside the Hollywood bubble can provide. Whitney and Addy lay bare why TikTok has disrupted everything, why comedians and side-hustlers now shape culture, and why the best litmus test for a person—in real life or online—is still your own intuition. Energetic, insightful, and, above all, very funny, this episode is a must-listen (or read) for anyone wondering why the internet just feels so different now.
Follow Addy on TikTok and YouTube: DJ Hungry Human
Whitney Cummings tour dates and more at whitneycummings.com