A Message for the Haters

Summary

Podcast Summary: "A Message for the Haters" | Good Guys Podcast

Release Date: August 4, 2025

Hosted by actor and writer Josh Peck alongside entrepreneur and social media icon Ben Soffer, the "Good Guys" podcast delivers engaging conversations twice a week. In the episode titled "A Message for the Haters," Josh and Ben delve into a variety of personal anecdotes, current events, and listener interactions, all infused with their characteristic humor and candidness.

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1. Parenting Challenges: Sleep Training and Toddler Behavior

The episode opens with Josh and Ben discussing their personal experiences with parenting, particularly focusing on their children's sleep patterns. Ben proudly shares, “Ruby is sleeping like a rock. The man is going eight to four, and then four to eight” (00:22). In contrast, Josh talks about his son Shai’s resistance to sleep routines, highlighting the complexities of managing different temperaments among siblings. Ben adds insight into typical toddler behavior, mentioning, “these two-year-olds are bossy” (05:36), and they both empathize with the challenges parents face during this stage.

2. Hulk Hogan and the Gawker Lawsuit

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the late Hulk Hogan’s legal battle with Gawker. Josh provides a detailed recounting of the events, stating, “Gawker run the story. They show the video... Peter Thiel quietly reaches out and says, 'I'm going to be your benefactor... we are going to go take Gawker down,'” (16:14). Ben expresses his admiration for Hogan, reflecting on his contributions to wrestling and his aggressive stance against perceived injustices. The hosts discuss the impact of the lawsuit on media transparency and privacy rights, acknowledging the moral complexities involved.

3. Recent Celebrity Passings

Josh and Ben pay tribute to recently deceased celebrities, including Hulk Hogan, Ozzy Osbourne, and Malcolm Jamal Warner (the actor who played Theo Huxtable on "The Cosby Show"). Ben remarks, “God bless him. He looked his age since he was 25. He's looked like this for 50 years” (15:44), emphasizing Hogan’s enduring presence in the entertainment industry. They also share a moment of levity while mourning, showcasing their ability to balance humor with respect.

4. Handling Negative Feedback and 'Haters'

Transitioning to the episode’s central theme, Josh addresses the concept of 'haters' and negative feedback. He shares, “Hating is not only my love language, but it's also my hate language. It's a mix of both” (02:17), highlighting his complex relationship with criticism. The hosts explore the psychological effects of jealousy and stress, with Ben asserting, “Stress will kill you and jealousy will kill you. Facts. Absolutely” (33:35). They debate the merits of engaging with negative comments versus focusing on positive interactions, ultimately deciding to introduce a segment dedicated to reading positive reviews and dismissing the negative ones.

5. Listener Interaction: Location Sharing in Relationships

In the listener segment, a 19-year-old named Lily seeks advice on whether to share her location with her boyfriend. Ben advises, “If you don't want that to be your boyfriend, okay, I do think your boyfriend of two years should have your location” (55:33), emphasizing the importance of trust and personal boundaries in relationships. Josh adds his perspective by sharing his own experiences, underscoring the balance between connectivity and privacy.

6. Food Segment: Oldest Foods in the World

The hosts engage in a fun discussion about the ten oldest foods still consumed today, sourced from fastfoodclub.com. They explore historical dishes like Asicia omentata—a precursor to the modern burger—and delve into ancient cooking methods. Notable mentions include:

• Burger: “Made with mince meats, cauliflower pepper, pine nuts and garum fish sauce” (47:56).
• Kebab: Highlighted as a staple roasted and grilled meat dish over 400,000 years old (49:02).
• Noodles and Pasta: Originating in China around 4,000 years ago (50:03).
• Pancakes: Dating back over 70,000 years with ingredients like seeds and water (50:40).

Their playful banter and mutual enthusiasm make this segment both informative and entertaining.

7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up the episode, Josh and Ben reiterate the importance of focusing on positive feedback and building a supportive community. They encourage listeners to leave five-star reviews and engage constructively with the podcast. The hosts sign off with their trademark humor, hinting at future segments and maintaining a lighthearted tone.

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Notable Quotes:

• Josh Peck: “Hating is not only my love language, but it's also my hate language. It's a mix of both.” (02:17)
• Ben Soffer: “Stress will kill you and jealousy will kill you. Facts. Absolutely.” (33:35)
• Josh Peck: “We are putting ourselves out there. Let us help you to forget about your day, to have an hour away...” (31:38)
• Ben Soffer: “If you have any bad feeling in your gut as to why your significant other shouldn't, they're not right for you.” (58:22)

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Note: Advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments have been excluded from this summary to focus solely on the core discussions and content of the episode.

Transcript

[Emma]

The following podcast is a Dear media production.

[Josh]

Two Jews, both big and tall. No subject too small for the Good Guys. A mother's dream premium podcast team. Make it your weekly routine. It's a Good Guys.

[Ben Safer]

And if you don't give us five stars.

[Josh]

What are you nuts?

[Ben Safer]

What are you nuts? Yeah. We're the good guys.

[Josh]

They're not the great guys. We're just the good of good of the good guys. Welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. I'm sitting here with your favorite Jewish camp counselor, it's Ben Safer.

[Ben Safer]

Shalom, Chaverim. Shalom. Chaverim. Shalom. Shalom. Shalom. Shalom. For everybody that doesn't know, that just means, hello, campers, and we'll see you later. Hello, my friends, and welcome back to the Good Guys podcast. Thank you. Things are great, Josh. Things are great over here. Things are great. We're sleeping good. I don't. I'm not trying to brag. I'm just telling you, Josh, that Ruby is sleeping like a rock. The man is going eight to four, and then four to eight.

[Josh]

Dude, mazel. You're so lucky. I've never had a kid like that, by the way.

[Ben Safer]

Jackie is literally, like, looking at us. She's like, I don't understand. Like, her. Her kids were not like that either. She's like, I don't understand how he's doing this. Eight to four. Four to eight. That's it. He's just like. He's just unbelievable.

[Josh]

That's huge.

[Ben Safer]

Bh.

[Claudia Ashri]

Real quick. Sorry to cut you guys off. I'm just. Mike flag. I just noticed.

[Josh]

Oh, okay. No worries. We. We can.

[Ben Safer]

We'll give him one episode. We'll give him one episode. It's fine.

[Josh]

We'll keep it going. It's okay.

[Ben Safer]

We'll just charge him on the back end. It's cool.

[Josh]

Now. Okay, we're leaving all this in because here's the truth of the matter, right? DM Dear media, we love you. We're company guys. Yeah, we talk a lot of crap. You know, Michael and Lauren, they think I make fun of them, and I do. But the truth is, it's because they're so fricking attractive. They're rich, rich, rich, rich, rich. And that's how I show it. Hating is not only my love language, but it's also my hate language. It's a mix of both.

[Ben Safer]

There's a fine line. There's a fine line, Josh. There's a fine line.

[Josh]

I'm aggressively jealous of these two, and I love working for them. Thank you, bosses.

[Ben Safer]

Thank you bosses. Thank you. What were we talking about?

[Josh]

You have. Thanks, Josh. You have.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

You have an elite child in the great rooster. My Russian, my Ruben.

[Ben Safer]

I do.

[Josh]

That's unbelievable. Congrats. I'm in the opposite boat.

[Ben Safer]

And we were. And I want to get to that. But also we thought of a good bar mitzvah theme for him. Groovin with Reuven. It's 70 themed dance party.

[Josh]

You don't.

[Ben Safer]

We're getting groovy with groovy.

[Josh]

You don't even. You could just say groovy or grooving.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, that's so good. Oh, my God. Grooving.

[Josh]

Come groove. Come groove with us.

[Ben Safer]

I'm gonna throw up. Honestly, I'm gonna throw up. I'm not waiting until this Barbie. I'm launching a 70s themed brand now called Groovin.

[Josh]

I can see. I can see the invite now. His proud parents, Ben Safer and Claudia Ashri. Shep Nachis for Groovin.

[Ben Safer]

For Groovin. By the way, it can also be a product at Home Depot for grooves called the Groovin. You like that? An appliance. Yes. Great groove. Now tell me. Now tell me why our beautiful Meyer. He's not sleeping. No. Good. Is that why you're having a coffee?

[Josh]

Meyer's great. A big surprise was my middle child is not happy.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, okay. All right. Well, let's talk about it. But the h. That Meyer is great. What's wrong with Shai? What's going on?

[Josh]

Shy's amazing, but I think we, you know, we didn't. When Shai was born, Max was almost four. And Max, what you will learn too. And my buddy Luca has sort of walked me through this thus far is he's like, you think, you know that you have different kids, but you don't know that you have different kids until it comes to.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Disciplining, talking to them, reasoning with them. And with one, you can come in with sweets and kisses, and the other one, you have to come in with a little bit more of, like, a tough tone. And so whereas Max was more stoic and just, you know, a quick listener. Understood. Was a little bit more, like, emotionally fragile. So everything. He just got it. Shy is a fighter.

[Ben Safer]

He's got that fight. Fighter, fighter, fighter. He's two. He's two and a half.

[Josh]

He's also incredibly young, and so this is totally rustling his feathers. He's. He'll be three in October.

[Ben Safer]

Yes. At this age I see it. I have a lot of friends that have kids this exact age. And the common theme is they are terrorists. Terrorists. I'm not saying that shy is like that. Sadly, I haven't spent enough time because you don't bring him to, to New York. But they then grow out of it quickly and like the terrible twos apparently are just a real thing. Like they just like walk all over you. And maybe it's not every kid. Maybe Max didn't do that. Right. But that's what, that's what I keep seeing and hearing that these, these two year olds are bossy.

[Josh]

Yeah. I mean obviously you hear about the terrible twos and three majors, which makes me want to punch myself in the private.

[Ben Safer]

You. I know three nature.

[Josh]

Go, go write a baby book.

[Ben Safer]

Who came up with that three major.

[Josh]

Go start a sub stack. Loser.

[Ben Safer]

Fucking. Fucking loser.

[Josh]

But, but what you do read is that when you have these big changes in their lives. School changing of a bedroom, a new sibling arriving, it can just totally rock their reality and their, their customs and now their routine. And so we kind of over the last two months have done all three to the poor boy. And so he is just like. And where we've tried to like say like, listen, we're sticking with the plan. You have slept in your bed for the last two years and 10 months and we're not going to like start changing it up now. He will, you know, whereas Max would give a fight for 20 minutes and then relent. Shy's like, give me two hours, I'll keep going. This, these vocal cords, they're strong. I won't be losing this one.

[Ben Safer]

So he wants to sleep in the bed with you? That's the, that's the new thing.

[Josh]

It's. He doesn't want to sleep. He wants it. He just. Yeah, he basically doesn't. And, and it's normal that there's like a separation anxiety, but it's. He just doesn't want to sleep at all.

[Ben Safer]

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lie. I feel like I was still occasionally coming into my parents bedroom at like seven. That's.

[Josh]

I did, I did till eight.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah. Like I think, look there, you're. We're their best friends, right? Like we're their comfort center. So like it makes sense. It doesn't mean that it's pleasant. Is he doing that immediately? Like he's never going to bed or he's waking up in the middle of the night and then running into your bed.

[Josh]

It's a huge 180. Right? Because it went from like a kid who we had a beautiful routine. We'd start winding down at 6:30 bath reading, you know, bottle songs, prayer. The whole thing was one short Hallmark movie. It's gorgeous.

[Ben Safer]

I love. I love it. And just the way you said songs, prayer.

[Josh]

I love songs and prayer, babe.

[Ben Safer]

That's the foundation of a great home. Singing and praying, Praying and singing Benny and Joshi t singing and praying Benny and Joshi Praying for song Benny and.

[Josh]

Joshi Adoration of the Lord Benny and Joshi Baruch hashem yech and also in your name we pray.

[Ben Safer]

Shout out my wife your name we pray.

[Josh]

It's so funny because I know she feels this way with my Jewish ass prayers, but when we throw in a Gaesha prayer, when we throw in a nice gentile prayer, I go, oh, look at me. I'm like the president here.

[Ben Safer]

They're nice. A nice gentile prayer is nice. They're straight to the point.

[Josh]

A good r, father.

[Ben Safer]

Beautiful. Excellent. I have no issues. You can't pray too much.

[Josh]

I know.

[Ben Safer]

I have no issues. I have no issues.

[Josh]

I throw in an Allah Akbar here and there. You should.

[Ben Safer]

You should absolutely do it. Absolutely do it.

[Josh]

By the way, do you know this UFC fighter? I think his name is Bryce. I know Bryce Mitchell. Bryce hall is a tiktoker, right?

[Ben Safer]

Bryce Hall's the tiktoker. I don't know this MMA guy.

[Josh]

So there's this MMA fighter named Bryce Mitchell who. I'm not here to rag on him. He did see some wild ass things about the Jewish people and.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, that's, that's this guy. That's this guy, the one that Portnoy like, came out like, saying he's a fucking loser. That's this guy, right?

[Josh]

Yes.

[Ben Safer]

Okay, cool. Yeah. I don't know you, but I know what you fucking did.

[Josh]

You 100% know. There's this great clip of this Russian guy interviewing him. Like he's doing a press conference and so there's these Russians interviewing him. And obviously MMA is huge in Russia and Arabic speaking countries and so many different places in the Eastern bloc and the parts of that world. And so this Russian guy is like, bryce, I was wondering. And he's like, you know, just like the thickest typical Russian accent. And Bryce Mitzvah goes, well, first I want to say it's your crown. Ha, baby.

[Ben Safer]

Oh my God. Said that to me. That's hysterical. What a fool. What a fool.

[Josh]

And the interviewer is like, I'm Russian. He goes, well, aslam alike. I mean, respect to you. I just think you might not be quite hitting it on the nose there.

[Ben Safer]

That's so funny. Some people really just should not try accents. Sorry. Like. Or some people should try. Shouldn't try saying things that require an accent. You can't. You can't do it if you have that deep of an accent. You just can't say it. You can't.

[Josh]

It was. It was fascinating. I'm like, you're speaking Arabic to a Russian man. But I appreciate the attempt.

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

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[Emma]

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[Ben Safer]

Speaking of fighters, I know that you were a big WWE guy, so, like, rest in peace. I'm sorry, like, I just saw that coming in the Hulkster, Mr. Hogan.

[Josh]

Happens. Happens in threes.

[Ben Safer]

It happens in threes. And cardiac arrest. 71 years old. Sad. Josh, think it had anything to do with all the. He was injecting into himself. That guy was hopped up, up, up. And all of a sudden he's hopped down, down, down.

[Josh]

Terry. That's the Hulk's name. Terry.

[Ben Safer]

Terry. Wow.

[Josh]

Behind. You know, behind every Hulk Hogan there's a Terry.

[Ben Safer]

Talk about Terry, Josh. Talk about Hulk Hogan. Talk about. Who did you do this for once before Richard Simmons. The great Richard Simmons. I'd like you to talk about the great. I'd like you to memorialize, give us a nice Oscar worthy in memoriam for Hulk Hogan.

[Josh]

You know, when a white guy can pull off a durag, you say it's somebody special.

[Ben Safer]

So true. Shout out.

[Claudia Ashri]

That was real.

[Ben Safer]

That one broke. It's, it's so, it's so true. He lived his life. He lived his life in a do.

[Josh]

God bless him. He looked his age since he was 25. He's looked like this for 50 years. And yeah, I mean he's a pretty spectacular fellow. Not, not without his peccadillo's, not without his flaws. But what he did for wrestling, the, what I find is the most interesting sort of most recent chapter in his life was how he took down the head of Gawker with this whole. Do you do. Are you familiar with this?

[Ben Safer]

Not really. Tell me, tell me, tell me.

[Josh]

So they're making a movie about it, but my friend Ryan Holiday actually wrote the book called Conspiracy. Basically there was a website called Gawker which was like the meanest version you could imagine of like I. Some people might, might laugh at this, but it was like truly TMZ with no ethics. Right. Was.

[Ben Safer]

It doesn't like Reddit. Yeah, we'll.

[Josh]

We'll report a rumor.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah, understood. Yep.

[Josh]

Doesn't need to be substantiated in any way. And it was especially around the tech world. So billionaire VC investor Peter Thiel at the time, in the late 2000s, they put out a story basically saying Peter Thiel is gay. Why won't he come out? And at this time, Peter Thiel was not out. And it was deeply unacceptable for anyone to push anyone to come out, especially to do it in this huge public forum. But in any version, right, that, that was completely, you know, Peter Thiel's journey and. Right, right to decide. And when they put this out, the head of Gawker was a guy named Nick Denton who was this British guy who basically just felt like, this is what we're going to do. And the website became super popular, blah, blah, blah. So Peter Thiel played this incredibly long game where he said one day I'm going to get him. It's not now, but I'm going to find it. Cut to. And this is the fun part. This is a fun story, even though, forgive me, it's long. So Hulk Hogan has a buddy named Bubba the love sponge.

[Ben Safer]

Who does God need that?

[Josh]

A shock jock esque radio host in the great Tampa Bay area. Say less. I know.

[Ben Safer]

Shout out.

[Josh]

Terry and Bubba, they're thick as thieves. They're wearing their do rags and their oakleys. They're going out on the town eating sampler platters. Really living it up. Hulk, well, he's having a hard time at home. Who isn't? You know what I'm saying? These. These things happen. And one day Bubba says, you know, Hulk, it would be an honor for you to sleep with my wife. Please, will you do me this blessing? So the great Hulkster, he obliges his friend over the love strut, and he has sex with Bubba's wife. Now, what Bubba doesn't tell him is that he happens to have a camera in his bedroom and he's. He's filming said act. Somehow this video gets leaked. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Ben Safer]

Somehow. Sure it wasn't Bubba.

[Josh]

Couldn't have been. I actually don't.

[Ben Safer]

Couldn't have been the guy who filmed it.

[Josh]

Someone in Bubba's camp? I. I don't know. Bubba's got a lot. Bubba's got a big, big entourage. Okay, so look, these things happen. You're sleeping with your friend's wife. It gets filmed. The. The. The tape leaks. It's. It's a tale. It's oldest time.

[Ben Safer]

I feel like that's something that would happen to kid David. Would you agree?

[Josh]

100%.

[Ben Safer]

It's in his future. It's happening.

[Josh]

Shout out the great kid David. Love you. So Gawker back to Gawker. They run the story. In fact, they show the video.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, God.

[Josh]

Now, what you would say is, well, you were filmed hooking up with someone. That's just your bad luck. But of course, in a bedroom, there is an expectation of privacy. Privacy. And he was being illegally filmed, even though it was, you know, not the coolest act in theory. Regardless, it was illegal for them to post it, and so they sent a cease and desist. They refused to take the video down. And Peter Thiel said, this is the moment. So Peter Thiel quietly reaches out and says, I'm going to be your benefactor, Mr. Terry, Mr. Hulk Hogan, you are going to go. And of course, he did this through intermediaries. We are going to go take Gawker down Now this is going to sink them. And they proceeded to. Terry put on his most judicious do rag and went into a courtroom in Tampa, Florida. And I think they sued Gawker for 100 and got $150 million in damages. They won the case, and Gawker is no longer.

[Ben Safer]

Wow, how'd I miss this? I definitely remember the lawsuit, but I missed the whole fun story. And that was a wonderful story told so on behalf of everybody listening, that was a great synopsis. All right, so rest in peace, Hulk Hogan king in many regards.

[Josh]

Ozzy. Ozzy gone.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, yeah, I totally forgot. I was thinking to myself, who are the three? Yeah, rest in peace, Ozzy good man. Crazy. That's how it goes.

[Josh]

What's your show, mate? Two Jews, big and tall. What kind of lyrics are them?

[Ben Safer]

You sound. You sound like Ron Weasley.

[Josh]

Oh, sh.

[Ben Safer]

Now you sound like Mrs. Doubtf. Oh, Sharon. Oh, Sharon. Put some sugar in your tea, Sharon.

[Josh]

Sharon Osborne is fun. I spent one afternoon with her for a charity event. And she is fun, fun, fun, fun, fun. And we were eating brownies together. She was fun. She's great, great lady.

[Ben Safer]

You have to be a fun, great lady to be married to that man for as long as she was married to him and stuck by him through his debaucherous acts. Guy, though, is a legend. What a legend and what he performed. I read something. He like, just performed like a couple weeks ago.

[Josh]

Like a week ago. A final. A farewell tour a week before he passed.

[Ben Safer]

God, talk about leaving it all out there. And who was the third? It comes in threes. Who else died?

[Josh]

Malcolm Jamal Warner, sadly, from the Cosby Show. I don't know if you're familiar, but he was. Theo.

[Ben Safer]

Theo was a great. Of course, yeah. How it was. How old is He? Young? No, mid-50s.

[Josh]

He died in a riptide in Costa Rica in the ocean.

[Ben Safer]

God, that's a horrible way to die.

[Josh]

So for our listeners safety, the great Ben, I ask you, I bet you do know how. If you find you are caught in a riptide, how do you proceed to get out of said riptide?

[Ben Safer]

That's an excellent question. I would assume that you do not. Not assume. You do not fight the current.

[Josh]

Smart.

[Ben Safer]

You. You let the current take you where the current is going to take you. And the current will eventually take you somewhere that is less riptide. You don't fight against it. You swim with it. And I believe you swim as low as you can. You don't go high. So I. I would go under and with Until I reached somewhere safe. Is that correct?

[Josh]

Half correct.

[Ben Safer]

Okay.

[Josh]

Yes. One of your options is let it take you out. It's going to win. Save all your energy and try not to panic and just let it take you and float out. Even if it takes you hundreds of yards out, eventually. Once you're out of the riptide, the wave patterns will get you back, assuming you're a strong enough swimmer to swim. You know, we are back.

[Ben Safer]

I just got to say, very strong swimmer over here. I don't know if we spoke about this.

[Josh]

I believe you are.

[Ben Safer]

I was a lifeguard. I was pool or beach. I never actually made it to the pool because I was too fat, But I was lifeguard certified. I could have been. Okay? I could have been. I had the training. I was ready to go, but it's just like, maybe this was just like me, like, projecting my insecurities into the lifeguard community. But like, you see this, like, snatched. Tan, red bathing suit. Me. Pale, fat, red bathing suit.

[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben Safer]

That's it. I could do the job. I could do the job. At fat camp, I would have crushed being the lifeguard because I would have been like the hot snatch lifeguard in comparison to the big fat fatties. But in regular camp, it just wasn't it. So I'm certified and a very strong swimmer. My dad's a very strong swimmer. Very strong.

[Josh]

Most Jews I know are strong swimmers. Why is that?

[Ben Safer]

I don't know. I don't know. Just in case we need to flee via the ocean.

[Josh]

Is it because our flat feet are. Are like flippers?

[Ben Safer]

It's a good question. I don't know. We love. We love the ocean. We love the ocean, though.

[Josh]

I would say that. I think we were also big fans of low impact exercises.

[Ben Safer]

Yes, that's a good. Very true as well. Butter aerobics.

[Josh]

I think we. We embrace anything that will make us as far away from our mothers as possible. Can I get away from her?

[Ben Safer]

All right, so you're in a riptide. You have two choices. Go with it or go against it. You're going with it. What was the other. I said swim to the bottom. You don't swim to the bottom.

[Josh]

Don't swim to the bottom. It'll take your ass out.

[Ben Safer]

I won't do that.

[Josh]

Swim parallel. So go north or south on the. I'm I assuming you're in the Atlantic or the Pacific, but just swim parallel to the shoreline. Riptides are incredibly contained, so, you know, at best they're 25, 50 yards wide. I mean, that. That's even maybe pushing it. So what happens is you go, you will swim parallel, you will get no resistance and then you'll be out of it and can swim back.

[Ben Safer]

So to be clear in this explanation, are we victim blaming Theo Huxtable for not knowing, for not knowing his protocol in the riptide? No, Josh, we're saying canceled by the riptide community.

[Josh]

I feel, I feel for him because I, I think a lot of people, you get, you feel the power of the ocean and that you're screwed. And most people, I think, panic and start swimming really hard and exhaust themselves.

[Ben Safer]

Agree.

[Josh]

It's hard. I feel terrible for him.

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

Sure.

[Ben Safer]

I want to read it. Yeah.

[Josh]

Petty season.

[Ben Safer]

I want to. I want to read it.

[Josh]

Response season. I want to do this every episode.

[Ben Safer]

It pissed the shit out of me. Like I never.

[Josh]

I'm going to rip him apart.

[Ben Safer]

Okay, ready? Ready for this? It was on a video of us talking about Six Flags. I don't even know. I just listened to Jay Shetty's episode. How could anybody take issue. There was a wonderful episode. Okay. I just listened to Jay Shetty's episode and was reminded once Again, how little life experience Ben has. I'm a lover of the pot and a toaster, but I can't help but notice that Ben and Claudia just really think they have life figured out. Ben just said there would never be a situation where he wouldn't celebrate someone's win in reference to a caller who was asking for advice about a friend being less than thrilled about her pregnancy because she was struggling to conceive. Ben lives in La La land much of the time where he's unable to put himself in somebody else's shoes and thinks he would handle any situation perfectly. God forbid something happened to Sweet Blank. I'm not putting that out there. I'm betting he would have to take a step back from hearing about other father's fun dad experiences for a while. He speaks like this a lot, and I'm glad he has a more mature, older and wiser Josh to learn from. And one day when Ben goes through some hard things, maybe he'll be a little more empathetic to others. This is one of many examples I could give, but no one is even reading at this point, I'm sure. Haha, understandable. And I wrote, I read, try being kinder. You don't know me or what I've been through. Your judgment of a stranger is telling. Yes. So all I have to say is fuck you. And the reason that I bring that up was because I was about to say something else about Theo Huxtable and how sad and all of this is and whatever. We just have to cherish life. But I don't want to proselytize for this woman, dude. God, it killed me. I, I, it's so rare that somebody writes something like that. Like, how fucking nasty is that?

[Josh]

It's so, it's so out of pocket. It's so, it's just keyboard warriors thinking that they can make an impact. Like the amount of people who are, you know, the great Christy talks about this and Theodore Roosevelt, this is attributed to him. It's called the man in the Arena. We're in the fucking arena. We're putting ourselves out there. We're creating the content. We're having an opinion. We have, we, we, we're brave enough to create something, right? And it's easy to be a spectator up in the crowd throwing tomatoes and having your reactions and whatnot. But it's like, do you have the guts to stand in the stage and be like, look at this, here's something. Let us help you to forget about your day, to have an hour away, whether you're working out or on your commute or whatever to enjoy yourself. So don't, don't criticize someone for trying to do something nice. And the Benjamin, the Benjamin software I know is the greatest boy there is. There's no, like my co host.

[Ben Safer]

And all that. I have to say because I know you'll agree with this. Jealousy is a choice. I will back that up all day long. Like I 1000% have stood in a room with friends who have done the same thing that I've done and successfully done it when I have failed at it. And you have to be proud of the people around you. I'm sorry, I'll double down on it. Just because you're experiencing something and negatively and somebody's experiencing the same thing positively. If you look through life as poor me, I don't care what your economic status is. I don't care what your life looks like. If you run through poor me, you will have a horrible life. So remove the jealousy if you can. And that's what I do. It's not proselytizing. It's the truth. I'm not a jealous person. I've been a jealous person and I will never be a jealous person because jealous people make themselves sick.

[Josh]

Yeah, I, oh, I heard someone once say that they knew people who gave themselves cancer to get out of a bad relationship. I was like, hi. Like, yeah, you, it'll, it'll make you sick.

[Ben Safer]

Stress will kill you and jealousy will kill you. Facts. Absolutely. But also, yeah, I don't know how we got here, but fuck that girl. Fuck her.

[Josh]

Well, also to that I would say sometimes the exception proves the rule.

[Ben Safer]

Right?

[Josh]

Like everything you've said about how you feel, I know to be true about you. And yes, of course, in like those rare horrible moments when you lost Romeo. Yes, I'm sure for a couple days after you didn't want to hear people's super cute, you know, cutesy dog love stories because you were in mourning. That's normal. But like, that is such a rare, specific instance when 98% of the time you're celebrating people's wins.

[Ben Safer]

I do even, I swear to God, if somebody came to me in that moment, like, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be angry at them. I would probably say like for that one week, have a little self awareness. But in general, but in general, I'll, I'm not going to root that your dog dies just because mine did. That's what this girl is saying. Like, I don't want you to have that because I can't how awful is that? So we should all have nothing. Nobody should have anything. There should be no joy.

[Josh]

I have a reply that I that's been on. On my heart.

[Ben Safer]

Do it, do it.

[Josh]

It's been on my heart. But this one is just really clear cut. We had a wild speak pipe a couple weeks ago during the Rainn Wilson episode, which was kind of confusing, where this girl told this long story about her and her, I think, her boyfriend and there was like a cheating scandal and it was all these things and we were trying to wrap our heads around it and we thought it had to do with her. Her husband's best. I don't know, it was a whole thing. I don't really remember it too specifically, but it was wild and we commented on it. Weeks later she sent in a speak pipe after seeing the episode and saying, oh my God, I feel like an idiot. I misspoke about something. Here's some, like, other extra details that I need to clarify. And we were listening to it on the episode a couple of days ago and I think I just felt in my need also to make sure that, like, I try to keep every speak pipe as interesting as possible that people wouldn't have remembered that from the Rainn Wilson episode. Like, they'd have to think back a month ago. And what is. And I just said, oh, who cares? I just moved on.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And she wrote me and she was like, you know, you have more influence than you think. And it does hurt to hear when someone you love says, oh, who cares? So I hear you. I could have done better. I'm sorry. And I love you and I won't do that anymore. But also people's. What are you nuts? Is this having nothing to do with our listener? They're just, I gotta listen to these speak pipes. It's make. It's giving me gray hairs. Up your game, y'.

[Ben Safer]

All.

[Josh]

These Woody announces, they're not great.

[Ben Safer]

Are you trying to kill him? We said that stress creates cancer. So do bad speak pipes. Are you trying to kill him?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben Safer]

Are you trying to kill him? Okay, so I was going to. When I thought you were going to call out a hater, I was going to suggest a new segment called hi, haters. Where once a week we like, talk about. Let's do it. Some fan that we fucking hate or a person. It doesn't have to be a fan. I just always want oxymoron.

[Josh]

I've got one. Oh, please, let me edit. Let me edit. Oh, great segment. Ben, Benny and Joshi addressing the haters. Benny And Joshi reading these hosts to filth. Okay, hold on.

[Ben Safer]

Because essentially, speak pipes are the opposite, right? That's like us highlighting our wonderful community and giving them advice. And for every 99 wonderful morons, there is an absolute dickhead. So we'll read you to filth, but we also don't.

[Josh]

Here's the problem, right? When we do these things, we're encouraging bad reviews because they.

[Ben Safer]

You're right, they get spotlight.

[Josh]

So we're only going to do this once. And then how about this? We will only read each episode. We will read a five star good review.

[Ben Safer]

I love it. I love it. Yes, you're right. Okay, so hi, haters. We're doing one time. The. All of the other times it's hi, friend.

[Josh]

Yeah, thank you, friend.

[Ben Safer]

Hi. Hi, friend. Thank you, friend. I love it. Josh, that's thinking with your noggin.

[Josh]

Thanks, Bobby. Okay, here we go. Love the pod, but Josh, review update. Giving 5 stars solely for Ben. Ben, are you exhausted from Josh constantly challenging and belittling you on every single little thing you talk about? Josh is giving that. He absolutely hates you and basically anyone who disagrees with him on anything and everything. I was on Wellbutrin, ma'. Am.

[Lily]

Okay.

[Josh]

This is a very common side effect to be adversarial and confrontational. And you, miss, can go screw.

[Ben Safer]

You don't want a podcast where two people just constantly say the exact same thing in an echo chamber. That's not fun. Right? So if I'm not offended by it, you shouldn't be. And if I am, we're not airing.

[Josh]

It just so it's clear you're meshuggah. I'm meshuggah. This whole thing works.

[Ben Safer]

All.

[Josh]

All this is, is one long improv scene. And the only way that scenes in anything work, the only reason why you're interested, whether you know it or not, is because there's conflict and we just have k conflict.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah, we do. Cute, gorgeous, Fantastic. All right, good. That was hi, haters. But ne. But next week it'll be hi, friends. So leave us a five star review. That's gorgeous. You can submit a speak pipe where you're praising us, or you can write comments under I clearly see TikTok comments. Okay? Even though I get millions and millions and millions of them a day because I'm a TikTok superstar. I see them, Josh sees them. So you can leave a nice comment there. We'll read them or send a speak pipe or leave a review on the pod and we're going to read one gorgeous review. Per episode.

[Josh]

Totally true.

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

But I was thinking Jimmy was hopeless. I really, I said, you know what? We're going to have to put Jimmy in a facility.

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

I really, maybe Jimmy needed to have an accident and we, and we would all be better off, you know, I.

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

And so what's he going to do, Josh?

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

I like it Jimmy's way and I like it Shopify's way. Because anything that makes Jimmy's life easier. Look, the truth is you have an idea for a business. I know you do. I know you watch shows like Shark Tank. You go, I could do, do that. Well, here's your chance, babe. There's no barrier to entry anymore. From nose to tail, from beginning to end, Shopify is going to take care of all of your needs.

[Ben Safer]

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[Josh]

But it can't. It can't help me make a website.

[Ben Safer]

Of course it can.

[Josh]

But it can't help me to, you know, accept payment. Of course it can, but there's no AI involved.

[Ben Safer]

Of course there is. What Everything. If you're not using Shopify. What are you nuts?

[Josh]

Should we get to a story?

[Ben Safer]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Lisa Vanderpump hits back at Sheena Shay's bullshit TV exploitation accusation. Lisa Vanderpump dismissed Sheena Shay's BS accusation that she exploited her for fame. Guess what? I don't care what she says. How about that? Vanderpump told the TMZ paparazzi in Los Angeles, that's the saddest thing the Real Housewives Beverly Hills alum said. Yeah.

[Ben Safer]

Is she Nashay, a friend of the show? Before I dive in?

[Josh]

I mean, I. I know her and. And she's a nice enough person, but dive. Dive in. She's never been on the show.

[Ben Safer]

No, I just like. Like, Lisa Vanderpump is like an Andy Cohen, right? These are, like, pioneers. Lisa Vanderpump made Shina Shay without Lisa Vanderpump. Sheena Shea, I don't know where she is, but she's certainly not in the position to. Like, I hate when people come back and say that their boss that gave them an opportunity exploited them. When you exploited. Cast you on a reality show and gave you your entire career. Right? Like, I just. I don't get that. I don't get that. It's reality tv. There's no such thing as. How can you exploit someone? You're the one. It's. It's unscripted. You're doing whatever you want. And what. You're exploited her. Like, you used her at her bar. She was a waitress. They're all waitresses. Like, does it dig deeper on how she was exploited?

[Josh]

I don't know. I didn't really see much of the. The Sheena thing, although. So let me ask you this, right? Does it depend. Is exploitation contingent on compensation or how you feel about it? Because, like, when Drake has been talking recently on podcasts, which I think he's totally right about just that. You know, we never got residuals. So few people in kids television get residuals, and so many massive corporation makes hundreds of millions from it. What do you say to that?

[Ben Safer]

You were exploited. And that's scripted tv. It's completely different.

[Josh]

Like, yeah, same.

[Ben Safer]

You were. You were paid for a very specific job, right? And your contract was fucked. Totally fucked. It was clear as day that this was your job. Reality tv, your job description is your entire life, especially in a show like Vanderpump Rules, where they literally cast you at. At your day job and then follow you into the night and into the morning. And they gave you that opportunity and paid you incredibly well, like the whole premise of the show. Again, I don't know what she's claiming to have been exploited for. I have to assume that it was promoting her bars or whatever it may be. But no, scripted versus unscripted. It's just a completely different ballgame, in my opinion. And so, yeah, no, I saw those Drake headlines and honestly, go Drake. Like, I'm happy that somebody's leading this because Josh, you never know, maybe, just maybe he'll make enough noise that somebody will cut you a check.

[Josh]

Well, I, I don't know, but I. I give him a lot of credit for doing it. And I think it takes a lot of guts to fight that fight for sure.

[Ben Safer]

A lot, A lot of guts. And it's. It's real. It's real. So go Drake, go.

[Josh]

Okay, I have a fun game for us. This is from fast food club.com, the 10 oldest foods. Don't worry about my search history.

[Ben Safer]

I was going to say, is that pinned?

[Josh]

It's hard to type with my diabetic fingers.

[Ben Safer]

People open their browser and it's like, google, yours is fast food club.com.

[Josh]

It'S better. When I opened up my browser once in front of my sister in law and pornhub popped up, I was like.

[Ben Safer]

And it was just like fat chicks eating McDonald's and I screamed, this is.

[Josh]

No reflection on your sister. Sorry, Taylor.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, that's funny.

[Josh]

Thank you for never bringing it up again. That was a weird road trip.

[Ben Safer]

That's really funny.

[Josh]

Okay, coming in number 10. People have been eating burgers since 100 century AD. Burgers. Hey, okay, okay, let's think of an. Let's. Oh, okay. In its earliest version was called Asicia omentata. Made with mince meats, cauliflower pepper, pine nuts and garum fish sauce.

[Ben Safer]

I'd eat that today. Sounds delicious. And I like the addition of the pine nuts, Josh. It adds a bit of crunch. I've never thought of having crunch. You know, what was it called? A sisa Tomato.

[Josh]

That's what I make Paige scream when we're in bed. Okay, okay, let's. Let's think. And Josh G, feel free to jump in here if you one comes to mind. We've got nine more items. Maybe we'll do two or three foods that are the oldest foods that the world still eats today. Gotta guess.

[Ben Safer]

Maybe like a kebab. A kebab.

[Josh]

Coming in at number one. Roasted and grilled meats kebab. Over 400,000 years old.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah, that makes sense. We've been eating nothing better than some Lamb on a spit.

[Lily]

Oof.

[Josh]

Got another one in. Anybody else?

[Ben Safer]

I want to get an in. I want to get an in. Home rotisserie. Josh, thoughts?

[Josh]

All I know is it's going to give me that rotism dog.

[Ben Safer]

I'm rotissic. That's too funny. That's our tagline. Let's make them in home rotisseries.

[Josh]

Yes. Hit us up. Shark ninja.

[Ben Safer]

I'm so in. Okay. Others. Yeah.

[Claudia Ashri]

How about French fries? I figure it's just taking a potato, cutting it up and heating it. That's gotta be old.

[Josh]

Good, good thought. Not on the list.

[Claudia Ashri]

Wow.

[Ben Safer]

Kebab. What about falafel?

[Josh]

Not on the list. Go more basic.

[Ben Safer]

Basic, basic, basic, basic, basic. Roast chicken.

[Josh]

I guess that would be like grilled meats. So not on the list.

[Ben Safer]

Not on the list. Eggs?

[Josh]

Not on the list.

[Ben Safer]

Rice?

[Josh]

Not on the list.

[Ben Safer]

I'll give you a good guess. That was a good guess, though. Josh.

[Josh]

Number two is noodles and pasta.

[Ben Safer]

That's rice. Okay.

[Josh]

Chinese noodle making dates back 4,000 years to Millet or wheat. Along with techniques of rolling and cutting.

[Ben Safer]

God, a Chinese noodle.

[Josh]

Here's some ones you might not expect. Number four, Pancake pan.

[Ben Safer]

How old is the pancake?

[Josh]

These breakfast favorites date back more than 70,000 years.

[Ben Safer]

Okay, but what were they made with?

[Josh]

Studies found that in the Shandar cave system in Iraq showed people used to pound seeds soaked in water into a paste. They formed it into patties before cooking, resulting in the earliest forms of pancakes.

[Ben Safer]

Understood. So this is probably a savory pancake. Like, we're thinking like a scallion pancake. More in, like, the Chinese world. We're not thinking of, like, an Aunt Jemima buttermilk situation.

[Josh]

No, not a fun one.

[Ben Safer]

Not a fun one.

[Josh]

No. This is a pancake.

[Ben Safer]

You're. You don't want. You don't want this pancake. This pancake is probably a wrap. Okay. This is a tortilla.

[Josh]

It's a sad one. It's not. This isn't Sunday morning cartoons.

[Ben Safer]

Is the tortilla a cousin of the pancake? Josh?

[Josh]

Yeah, I would say. Good.

[Ben Safer]

It is.

[Josh]

Close friend. The very least.

[Ben Safer]

And could you use a traditional pancake as the wrap of a breakfast sandwich?

[Josh]

The McGriddle.

[Ben Safer]

Oh, is that what it is? Don't they use waffles?

[Josh]

No, Pancakes.

[Ben Safer]

Okay.

[Josh]

And they inject them.

[Ben Safer]

McDonald's. You did it, right?

[Josh]

They inject them with syrup. Oh, yeah. Dog.

[Ben Safer]

Wow. That's.

[Josh]

Josh. Do you fuck with one?

[Claudia Ashri]

I love a McGretto.

[Ben Safer]

Dude.

[Josh]

Bro, I've never heard you this passionate about anything.

[Claudia Ashri]

That is one thing that will get any morning when I wake up and I can catch on with griddle and like make it to work on time is going to be the best day ever.

[Ben Safer]

Damn. So good.

[Josh]

What's your go to McDonald's breakfast order, Ben?

[Ben Safer]

Oh, I really don't dabble in like, I. I don't dabble in fast food breakfast. But like I love just like a egg and cheese. That's like my deli order. Like my New York deli order is like a beautiful bun. Egg, cheese, salt, pepper, ketchup. But no, I'm not like a fast food breakfast guy. You.

[Josh]

I'll do a double hash brown. No sandwich and orange juice and a coffee.

[Ben Safer]

Okay. I love the hash browns.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Ben Safer]

Fantastic. I actually love Duncan's hash browns. Have you had Duncan's hash browns?

[Josh]

Fabulous. Fabulous.

[Lily]

Amazing.

[Ben Safer]

They're unbelievable.

[Josh]

They have a wrap. That's good. They got it all going on.

[Ben Safer]

They did something a little bit strange though. I just want to comment. Duncan's menu put bacon in everything. It previously wasn't in everything. They used to have like a non. No, no bacon. Egg bites or like bacon is in every single menu item. Clearly I'm in the minority and they read some research study that if they put bacon in shit, people are going to buy it. But yeah, I don't know, like, they could have like a little bit of menu diversity. That's all. Just saying.

[Josh]

Totally feel that. Hear that? Yeah. Shout out. Shout out Dunkin Donuts. Shout out the incredible Southeast Asian franchise owners of all of northeast. Dunkin Donuts. We look up to you. We praise you. We love you.

[Ben Safer]

We do. We love you.

[Josh]

Unbelievable. Josh, she's from Jersey. He knows a good Duncan.

[Claudia Ashri]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

Come on.

[Claudia Ashri]

Yep, yep. That was definitely a staple. Any mall. Anybody who works at a mall lived off of Dunkin Donuts.

[Ben Safer]

Fantastic. And. And they were big portions before it was cool. Those coffees have always been juiced. Love it.

[Josh]

Let's go back to styrofoam. Should we get to a quick speak pipe before winning us?

[Ben Safer]

Yeah. Beautiful.

[Josh]

If you want to ask us a question, get some advice. We don't want your witty nuts is but go to speakpipe.com goodguys keep it brief. Brevity's key. Let's hear from Lily. Let's hear from Lillard.

[Lily]

Hey, good guys. Okay, so I'll keep it brief. I've been in a relationship with my boyfriend for about a year and a half now and we both just graduated high school. And yesterday he asked me if we could share locations with each other. Like him me having his location, him having my location. And I don't know, I kind of just brushed it off. I don't know. He didn't ask in like a overprotective way or like a suspicious way. He was just saying it. And I feel like it is a pretty normal thing. Like all my friends share the locations with their boyfriend. So I don't know what to say because I don't know if I want him knowing where I am all the time. Not that I'm not cheating or anything, and I don't want to feel suspicious or make him feel suspicious by saying no. But like, does he need to know where I am all the time? I don't know. I mean, I trust him. But like, why? Why? What's the use in doing that? I don't know. And like, I don't really care. I don't. I don't really care to have his location. I don't really want it. I don't know. So I just really need your guys advice on what I should do because it's not like I feel like I'm in danger or anything, but I just don't know what to do. And I would love your help. Also would love to get Olivia's advice on this as well.

[Ben Safer]

Well, Olivia's not here, so Olivia's out today. Well, first, I'm so excited, Josh, that we have young listeners. This is a 19, 20 year old listener. This is longevity, folks. The children are our future. In the words of Jenna Maroney, even though I know you don't watch 30 Rock, I. I would say it's so good, I would say that you're kind of screwed because saying no, you can't have my location is going to be weird for sure. I hope somebody has your location.

[Josh]

Agreed.

[Ben Safer]

Whether that's your mom, your dad, your sister, nobody should not have your location. So if you don't want that to be your boyfriend, okay, I do think your boyfriend of two years should have your location. And perhaps it is in the way that I'm thinking about it. I've never once checked Claudia's location unless she was traveling or I was worried about her or her I hadn't heard from her. It's in like a worst case scenario. Only weirdos check people's locations to like show up where they are. That would be called being in a toxic relationship. So if you're in a toxic relationship, break up with him and don't share your location. If you're in a loving relationship, where he just like cares about making sure that you're not dead when you didn't come home last night or something. I. I would share it personally.

[Josh]

Paige and I don't share our location. Not that we wouldn't. And she has my Tesla app, so she knows where my car is.

[Ben Safer]

Does anybody have your location?

[Josh]

No.

[Ben Safer]

Somebody should know.

[Josh]

Don't you kidnap me. I know Krav Maga.

[Ben Safer]

Somebody should. Seriously, somebody should. Somebody should have your location. Yeah, but you know, just one person. It doesn't have to be Paige if you don't want it to be. It could be your. I don't know, uta. How sad is that?

[Josh]

My agency. That's really sad. Is my emergency contact. Chaney Rosenzweig at uta Managing partner. It's my emergency contact. Shout out. Cheney. Love you.

[Ben Safer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh]

30 years almost together. What was I going to say? But have you considered this? That real G's move in silence like lasagna?

[Ben Safer]

I have, John.

[Josh]

You like that? He wrote me again.

[Claudia Ashri]

That was so good.

[Ben Safer]

No, I have not considered that real GS move in silence like lasagna.

[Josh]

Is that one of the great Lil Wayne lines ever?

[Ben Safer]

That fantastic.

[Josh]

So good. Shout out Lil Wayne. Yeah, I agree with you.

[Ben Safer]

I.

[Josh]

But tell me this, Ben, because for me, I feel like even at two years dating, especially when you're young, I would look at the person I'm dating and say, listen, I could spend the next 15 minutes talking or I could just say, no right now. Just don't wanna. I can give you a million reasons, but you gotta trust me.

[Ben Safer]

But any of those reasons, in my opinion, mean that they're the wrong person. If you have any. Any bad feeling in your gut and you're not cheating, you're not doing something nefarious, if you have any bad feeling in your gut as to why your significant other shouldn't, if they want to have your location, they're not right for you. I think like if nobody cares, nobody cares. Totally different story. But. But otherwise it's like, do you think that they're going to show up at your house and kill you, then you shouldn't be with them because you're scared of them. Right? Like if. If you think that they're going to track you and stalk you and show up places uninvited, they're the wrong person for you.

[Josh]

I'll give you a good example. I was shooting a wonderful Applebee's ad with my sister in law the other week.

[Ben Safer]

Shout out 2 for 25 for incredible.

[Josh]

Collab with Applebee's and She got a text from her friend saying, are you at Applebee's?

[Ben Safer]

Blocked. Goodbye. That's not it.

[Josh]

And I.

[Ben Safer]

That's not it anymore.

[Josh]

It's weird.

[Ben Safer]

Yes. Agreed. Agreed. Anybody? No. Very weird. And if somebody were to be like that, if that's what your boyfriend is like, but then, Josh, you shouldn't be. Would you be friends with that person who's stalking you? That's weird.

[Josh]

Again, I like, I know a lot of people like families who, you know, everyone's got each other's thing. I mean, granted, they're family, but everyone's got each other's location. And it's like, I don't know. I'm not the best person because I'm like a only child raised by an older mom. Right? So, like, technology and tracking people. Like, I was walking to the bodega at 10 when I was a kid by myself. I took the crosstown bus to school growing up when I was 12. So I know in today's day and age, everyone's way more connected, but I don't know, it feels. But I would want my kids.

[Ben Safer]

Maybe it's a service. Josh, this is a good idea. For people who don't want to be tracked. There is a Homeland Security esque service that tracks you, and then it's bought by Russia and you're murdered.

[Josh]

Russia. Should we get to our Woody Nuts?

[Ben Safer]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Our Woody Nuts moment of the week are gripes with people, places and things both big and small. Whatever. Sticking in your craw. I'll go first. So I was watching a commercial the other day for the great Cracker Barrel. You know, I love a Cracker Barrel. This is no shade on Cracker Barrel. Except they go, we've got our whole new summer barbecue menu. And basically they've just taken their menu items and they cook it in tinfoil. What are you nuts? This is not a value add. They're like, it's our usual rotisserie chicken, but we cook it in tinfoil next to corn like it's our fun summer menu.

[Ben Safer]

Sounds delicious. My. What do you Units moment of the week is gazpacho. Josh, gazpacho is not a soup. Soup is not cold. Gazpacho is basically a savory smoothie thrown in a bowl for $30. If I wanted a melon and mint smoothie, I would go to Jamba Juice. I'm not going to your overpriced Italian restaurant. Okay. With gazpacho. What are you, nuts?

[Josh]

Love it. Take us home, Ben.

[Ben Safer]

Folks, this episode's five stars. Otherwise, what are you, nuts? Listen to us wherever you get your podcasts, watch us on YouTube, share our clips, Instagram and TikTok Mondays and Thursdays, folks. We will see you next time.

[Emma]

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